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Top 30 Prospects, Part V: 6-10

...in which I reveal that Caddyshack references are more important than "scouting reports" or "stats."

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10. Tommy Joseph - C

There are only 245 Google search results for "tommy joseph" and "light tower power". That must mean he’s underrated. The only things I know about Joseph are that he’s a batting practice superstar, he was a second-round pick, and he impressed the heck out of anyone who watched him in instructional league. Yeah, but I don’t even really know what instructional league is, so I don’t feel comfortable ranking him any higher without a tiny sample size of professional at-bats to over-analyze. I have some standards.

Joseph is a catcher like Paul Konerko and Carlos Delgado were catchers, which is to say he’ll probably be a first baseman soon. But I can’t get enough o’ that light-tower power, and Joseph is the player I’m most eager to follow this season. There’s a decent chance that he might be the #2 prospect next year behind Buster Posey. And once Posey is the starting left fielder in 2012, Joseph might be the #1 prospect in the organization.

9. Dan Runzler - LHP

Runzer pitched at low-A, high-A, AA, AAA, and the majors in 2009. That’s a neat little factoid, but it’s also an indication of how Runzler surprised everybody. Last year he was a live-armed lefty with no idea where the ball was going. When he made it to Augusta in 2008, he almost averaged a walk per inning. A year later, he didn’t allow two earned runs when he was at any level, which is just slightly insane.

Other than a dominant stretch in San Jose, though, his control wasn’t very good at all. If you put a $5 bill down, you can join the McCovey Chronicles/Dan Runzler pool: pick the first game in which he walks the bases loaded and strikes out the side. The winner gets the spreadsheet that I keep track of the money in, and I get the five dollars. Win/win. I pick April 8th.

Though I’m usually biased against minor league relievers, it isn’t hard to see how Runzler can be a two-win reliever in the future. He makes hitters look like fools when he has command of his hard fastball and goofy slider. For some reason, Bruce Bochy feels comfortable putting young relievers in high-leverage situations the second they step off the bus from Fresno -- you know, just like he does with young catchers -- so Runzler will get every chance to stick as a late-inning option this year.

8. Roger Kieschnick - RF

Oh, what another organization could probably do with Kieschnick. He has a ton of raw power -- he had 23 home runs, but his 37 doubles and eight triples hint at a higher ceiling -- and he’s a tremendous athlete. He runs, fields, and throws extremely well. The only part of his game that’s a glaring weakness is his plate discipline. Kieschnick coming to the Giants to learn plate discipline is like a guy who needs a couple more classes for a computer science degree venturing into Amish country. Anything’s possible, but, yeah.

Strikeouts at the major league level don’t mean a whole lot. Sure, for every ball you aren’t putting in play, you aren’t getting a runner over, but you’re also not hitting into a double play. It almost evens out. High strikeout totals in the lower minors are cause for major concern, especially when they aren’t paired with acceptable walk levels. It’s a sign that there’s something in a swing or approach that kids in their early 20s can exploit, which portends doom at higher levels. All things considered, it was a successful first season for Kieschnick, but he’s raw, and I’m not sure if I trust the Giants organization to fix that.

7. Brandon Crawford - SS

Crawford is probably the biggest FRODO in the organization, as he didn’t hit nearly as well as expected at UCLA and dropped to the fourth round. I go back and forth on Crawford’s ranking in relation to Ehire Adrianza. Both are highly regarded defensive shortstops with enigmatic bats. Adrianza has the advantage of youth; Crawford has the advantage of a crazy-hot start in the California League last year that hinted at a more significant offensive upside. Crawford wins out because he has the promise of power. With Adrianza’s writeup, I included a link to Jack Wilson’s FanGraphs page, in which Wilson is consistently rated as being a player who adds about two wins to his team. With Crawford, I can daydream of a ceiling that’s something akin to Jack Wilson, but with 15- or 20-homer power. Yes, please.

His hot start in A-ball was as fascinating as it was confusing. You might see references to BABIP on this site -- batting average on balls in play -- and wonder if it’s really a big deal. Just because a hitter has a BABIP of .350, doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s due for a crash. Derek Jeter has maintained something close for his whole career, as have several others. But Crawford’s BABIP in the California League was .478. Every other ball that he put in play fell for a hit. A reanimated Ted Williams with a robotic exoskeleton and an aluminum bat forged by Hephaestus wouldn’t be able to keep that up. When you click the "neutralize for luck" button on minorleaguesplits.com, it spits out a nice but reasonable line of .293/.377/.514. So don’t put all of your evaluation eggs in the San Jose performance basket.

But he shouldn’t be totally discounted as a prospect because of his flailing in AA, either. The Giants figured that 100 at-bats in A-ball were a good enough sample to know that Crawford was a future middle-of-the-order force, so they moved him up to AA prematurely. They didn’t really worry about Crawford’s high strikeout rate, and they certainly didn’t care about no bee-eh-bee-eye-pee, snort, and the results in Connecticut were disappointing, if a little predictable.

The contact is an issue. Crawford strikes out way, way too much, and he isn’t a super-patient hitter. He’s still young enough, though, that he might be more than a glove-first hacker.

6. Nick Noonan - 2B

I still believe. He hasn’t been able to hit lefties yet, and his raw stats (.259/.330/.397) weren’t very impressive for the Cal League, but he’s been aggressively promoted. I have a feeling that he’d have a much higher profile if he were a 20-year-old who hit .300/.380/.450 in the Sally, so it’s probably unfair to punish him too much for being the third-youngest player in the Cal League. He doesn’t turn 21 until May.

Fans of micro-splits have something to chew on, too: in the last two months of the season, Noonan cut his strikeout rate by a ridiculous amount. Giants’ farm director Fred Stanley took a lot of ribbing on this site for saying that Noonan had "the best strike zone discipline of any hitter in the system," but for the last half of the season, Stanley wasn’t too far off. The whole second-half was a success for Noonan, as he ended the season with more walks than he had in 2008, but he did it at a higher level. When Chase Utley was two years older than Noonan is now, he had a very similar season in A-ball. Does that mean that Noonan is going to be better than Utley? No. Just as good? Of course.

 

 

Baseball America didn’t have Noonan in their top ten, so take my appreciation for him with a few kilos of salt. But if you’re hankering for an advance seat -- perhaps an ill-advised, logically unsound seat -- on the Noonan bandwagon, I’m driving.

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And once Posey is the starting left fielder in 2012

I hate you, Grant.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 10, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

I hated him first!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 10, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I hated Grant before it was cool!

GrahamCrakalaka

by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not cool to hate him anymore. It’s so mainstream

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate Grant ironically.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Feb 11, 2010 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I HATE GRANT AND I LIKE AMERICAN APPAREL :))))) LOLZ

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Feb 11, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

All these prospects

Somebody should like do a prospect video or something

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Feb 10, 2010 1:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I like how 4 of the 5 are position players. Please, oh please can at least 1 of them be awesome.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Quit asking for the world

You already have your once in a generation position prospect on the big league team.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 10, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That was greedy me, also assuming Posey is awesome and NEAL IS REAL and also awesome

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark derosa?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Feb 10, 2010 1:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Juan Uribe, you silly-head.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

As someone who has just followed his career from being drafted in the supplemental round to the statistics found on BBR & MILB, I have to say that I do not believe in Nick Noonan. I don’t understand why he still gets compared to Chase Utley.

I’ll ban myself now.

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by ResDog on Feb 10, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

That video you link’d with the Joseph HR is amazing. That’s one easy swing, and the ball just jumped off his bat. I really like him at 1B.

by TwoBagger on Feb 10, 2010 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

I get so impatient with guys out of high school. What would his ETA to the majors be…like 2013?

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

and good god he was born in 91

1991. What. The. Hell that sounds young

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

God dammit I was born in 1991. I’ve been dreading the day that major leaguers start being younger than me, because then I have to put down the crazy dream that someday I’ll magically develop a 100 MPH fastball and 12-6 curveball and Lincecum-esque changeup without doing any work and go sign with the Giants and win the World Series.

Curse you, sir, for crushing my fantasies. CUUUURSSSEEE YOOOOUUUU!!!

by quincy0191 on Feb 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I still think at the age of 24 that I can be a reclamation project and just cruise through the minor league system. All thats stopping me is how lazy I am

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve got to learn a knuckleball.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 10, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too man. Me too.

by srpwrd on Feb 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too, but it’s 1966. If Barry can come back at this age, why not me?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 10, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

1991=Best year to get born in

Anyone wanna guess what year I was born in?

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

109?

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by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I wasn't born 1901 years ago (although I like that song)

but Bochy wants a 1901 year old player…to replace Bengie on his days off

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, since the premise of the comment is incorrect, I can’t honestly answer the question posed.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 10, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

1992?

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 1:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Close. Within 1 year

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

1993?

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting colder...

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve done my year of birth and my younger brother’s year of birth. What other year could it possibly be?

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The world doesn't revolve around you

it revolves around me and the year of my birth was when the world first started turning.

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Given my year of birth, I am struggling to find evidence in my memory banks to invalidate this statement.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Just trust that I am right

That’s what I do and 65% of the time it works for me

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You get a D in life!!!!

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

Wait…I think I did that wrong

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If the world actually revolved around an individual, that person would never be able to set foot on the Earth. So unless you are typing from the point in space that is the center of mass between the Sun and Earth, I call shennigans.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 11, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I am typing from the point in space between the sun and earth

IPhones can do anything

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Your premise is founded on a heliocentric theory of the universe.

I just can’t buy that brand of Copernican psychobabble.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

you people are fools

How could it possibly be the best year to be born in when being born then means missing out on the glory that was Will Clark, San Francisco Giant!?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Who?

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But Nirvana released Nevermind in 1991

So you could cure your depression by listening to depressingly awesome music

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

it was released in 1991

And I remember that time. By being born then, you missed the awesomeness.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

But I can look back and be happy to be born when arguably the greatest album ever was released

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is a bit overrated

Of all the 90’s albums I prefer (What’s the Story) Morning Glory by Oasis

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Ew. No.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't like Oasis?

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah. I love Oasis

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I was never a fan

And then I saw them opening for U2 back in 1997 – I found them pretty obnoxious and have held it against them ever since.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I hvae heard that they can be obnoxious

but I love their music. Also they broke up in 2009 so I had a sad.

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I had the exact same experience, saw them on the PopMart tour and have disliked them since then.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 11, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Which show?

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oakland Colosseum

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by neurofarm on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was the one for me, too.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

some of my favorite albums from the 90s, incidentally

Nevermind and MTV Unplugged in New York by Nirvana
To Bring You My Love by PJ Harvey
Homogenic by Bjork
69 Love Songs by the Magnetic Fields
Achtung Baby by U2
Loveless by My Bloody Valentine
The Future by Leonard Cohen
Hips & Makers by Kristin Hersh
American Recordings by Johnny Cash
Panic On by Madder Rose
Exile in Guyville by Liz Phair
Automatic for the People by R.E.M.
Summerteeth by Wilco

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Everclear… and probably 14:59 album from Sugar Ray…

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What about

Ten-Pearl Jam

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a fan. Nothing in particular against them – I just don’t really like their music.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked them

when they released the Fixer this year though…that was bad

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That song is so peppy though! How can you possibly hate it?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Pearl Jam should NEVER be peppy

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

But it makes me so happy.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Pearl Jam should make you depressed

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Except for when they’re making me happy.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Their depression makes me happy

If I feel bad I can listen to their depressing music and if I’m in a good mood I can hear their depression and think “wow, this is a cool song”

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

How 'bout

Doolittle by the Pixies

"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark

by iammclovin on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call. Definitely should be on the list.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, no.

That came out in 1989.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap.

Well, I like Bossanova almost as much.

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by iammclovin on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Near the end of my BC days I used to have a roommate (who parenthetically never wore any other footware than bowling shoes) who got me to be a habitue with him of a club called Jumping Jack Flash (since burned down) where a handful of unsigned local acts used to play virtually in rotation for awhile. One of those groups was the Pixies, and another was an ur form of the Lemonheads with a different name. And another was a Juliana Hatfield group although she also frequently played with the Lemonheads group.

Actually they used to have drinks at the bar with the relatively few fans during breaks in sets, and once several years later in Chicago I was at a bar where Hatfield was playing and she came up to the bar for a drink and I asked her if she remembered me, but she pretty much looked right through me, gave a nod at the mention of JJF and walked away. I always think of that as one of those “that place in history” kind of scenes, although in retrospect it probably really wasn’t.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that story. It’s sad and quiet, despite being about rock stars and bars. It is a sad story, right? I’m not making that up, am I?

Pablo's not fat. He's just got body.

by LeMasterBlaster on Feb 11, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, I suppose it is.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow I’m shocked that Loveless came out in the 90s. They’re so ’80s in my memory.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Released November 5, 1991 according to the All Music Guide.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Where’s N’ Sync?

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

WHERE’S BACKSTREET BOYS?

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

My sister was a big Backstreet Boys fan at their apex. Ugh.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

My sister (older) was a big NKOTB fan.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Step by step

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Day by day…

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

A fresh start over
A different hand to play

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The deeper we fall, the stronger we’ll stay.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine was too. We used to argue about who was good and who sucked: NKOTB (her favorite) or U2 (my favorite). Years later it became pretty clear who was on the better side of that argument.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 11, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

New Kids aren’t half as douchey as Bono. Your sister wins!

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

False. They’re all pretty douchey, though.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Feb 11, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Bono wasn’t always douchey…. okay maybe he was.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

U2: Greatest band evah. One of them, at least.

Oasis: Ridiculously overrated

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

For sentimental reasons, Downward Spiral would be on mine. I think a lot of my top 10 of the 90s would be more for memories not quality.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

90s albums I liked in the 90s

Me Against the World – 2pac
Downward Spiral – NIN
Nevermind – Nirvana
Chronic – Dr Dre
Ill Communication – Beastie Boys
Fashion Nugget – CAKE!
Blues – Eric Clapton
Time Out of Mind – Bob Dylan
Dookie – Green Day
Death Certificate – Ice Cube
American Recordings – Johnny Cash
Enter the Wu Tang – WTC
In Utero – Nirvana
MTV Unplugged – Nirvana
Ready to Die – Notorious BIG
Evil Empire – Rage Against the Machine
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness – Smashing Pumpkins
Doggystyle – Snoop Dog
Somewhere Between Heaven & Hell – Social Distortion
40 oz to Freedom – Sublime
Sublime – Sublime
Achtung Baby – U2

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss 90’s rap. I can’t listen to the current junk, especially Lil Wayne

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m mostly an old crank who thinks rap peaked with Public Enemy. Lately, though, I’ve really liked K’naan.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Grandmaster Flash and a long slow decline.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 11, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

lol rebirth

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by groug on Feb 11, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, I would have liked to have put more EPMD & Run DMC but their best albums, or at least the ones I really liked were from the 80s. Business Never Personal probably could have made it.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I like this list

Although I think Green Day is overrated and I forgot to mention Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. But the Downward Spiral is a great album

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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

This would be a near-perfect list were it not for the disturbing lack of Yo La Tengo. I submit an addition of either I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One.

Also probably some Uncle Tupelo needed.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a really good album, yes. Also Painful.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh shoot, that YLT album might be in my top 10 soon

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 11, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

1 album per artist

Nick Cave – The Boatman’s Call
NMH – In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Manic Street Preachers – The Holy Bible
The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
Modest Mouse – The Lonesome Crowded West
Radiohead – OK Computer
Red House Painters – Ocean Beach
PJ Harvey – Dry
Elliott Smith – XO
idk maybe Sleater-Kinney – Dig Me Out

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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Feb 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I would put it in the top ten. But it’s my generation’s landmark, so there’s that.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

my top ten would probably include

London Calling by the Clash
Abbey Road by the Beatles
Blue by Joni Mitchell
Nevermind by Nirvana*
69 Love Songs by the Magnetic Fields
Revolver by the Beatles.

…among others. Those are the ones that can to mind right now.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, I forgot to resolve that asterisk

I was going to note that, personally, I like Nirvana’s Unplugged album the best, but Nevermind is the historically important one.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I love their Unplugged album. Good call.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably in my top 20. I’m also around jcb9’s age.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I've just heard people say its the greatest ever

I don’t think its OMG Amazing but its damn good

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to be into Nirvana. But then I got over it.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I did that, but then I re-got into it. It comes in cycles for me.

by rotorueter on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurt Cobain bought the gun that he used to kill himself with on my ninth birthday.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame you

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Well played sir.

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by nvsfg on Feb 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I was happy we had Omar and last year Randy Johnson. Now no one is younger than me on the Giants. Thankfully Omar is still active and so is Jamie Moyer.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 10, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

that's not old

hearing that the children of major leaguers you remember watching are retiring (Bonds, Griffey, etc.)… that’s weird.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 11, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Heck, Joe Montana’s son could be drafted into the NFL in the next five years.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

For me it was when i first realized that most of the head coaches or managers in every sport were guys I who I not only watched, but I remember when they started or their college careers, etc. But yeah, the kids of guys you watched retiring is rough.

And, since I actually remember seeing Gus Bell play, I get to say watching the grand kids of people you remember watching retiring.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

/looks up Gus Bell.

Oh.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It’ll happen to you too. Don’t get cocky.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I already feel old when I see that members of this site were born in the mid-nineties. There is no doubt in my mind that I have many years and variations of feeling old to come.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Old is just a state of mind....

I speak from experience. Being born in 1959 I have children that are older than some of the McCoven.

You just have to watch out for the “GET OFF MY LAWN” feelings that creep up on you and you’ll be fine.

Matt Downs MLB , Now with More STATZ goodness !Matt Downs Fangraphs The Juan Uribe of 2011 !

by nvsfg on Feb 11, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I just mean, why the heck are they even on my lawn. It’s my frickin’ lawn!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

1959???

HAHAHAHello, fellow alumnus…i…what – evarrr!

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 11, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The ball the kids were playing with got away from them and ended up on your lawn.
The young couple thought that your lawn looked nice and soft and would be a good place to get busy.
The kid riding his bicycle had to swerve and ended up riding on a piece of your lawn.

All of those things.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 11, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The young couple can stay, but the rest of them better get the hell off.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you be a passive observer or would you offer “getting busy” advice to the young man?

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 11, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d let them enjoy themselves. But if I notice that he’s doin’ it wrong on my lawn, I’m not just going to stand there quietly.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Watch out for them? But those are my favorite feelings!

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Mrs. nvsfg reminds me when I start to go to that place. It’s fun and really gets the blood going,but is generally not very productive. Kind of like one of GRM’s rants :-)

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by nvsfg on Feb 11, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It's gonna get rocky!

We gonna move down to the next disc jokey!

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

*jocket

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ARGH

jockey

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

ha, rec’d

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

What the hell?

I was born the same year as a Giants prospect? That kind of freaks me out.

by goGSW24 on Feb 10, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how these prospects are born years after I graduate high school.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 10, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Which makes me wonder...

What future prospects are being born now that I will be talking about 20ish years from now?

by goGSW24 on Feb 10, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Who won’t play because the Giants re-signed Bengie Molina and Freddy Sanchez to 3 year extensions.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 10, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Soon as I find a woman willing, I’ll get right to making that prospect

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

How is PROSPECT made?

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 1:05 AM PST up reply actions  

With a heavy snowstorm and a bottle of fine wine

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT HE WAS BORN 3 MONTHS AFTER ME

I need to start drinking. I feel old.

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t matter if he’s blocked by Molina at catcher and Posey at first. They’ll have to trade him for Ray Sadecki.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 10, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Posey is blocking ppl at 1B, SS, and LF :O

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by jctGamer on Feb 10, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

Sadecki does have more big league experience, although I think he projected as a 5th starter at best. Also, we could just move Molina over to first at some point. Right?

by TwoBagger on Feb 10, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as JT is in the organization, we can move anyone to first

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

can we move Bochy to 1B coach?

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by jctGamer on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d have to be the slowest and most unenthusiastic 1b coach ever

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d have to be the slowest and most unenthusiastic 1b coach ever

Not if we move him to that 1b Coaching box on the Little League Field across the cove.

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by nvsfg on Feb 11, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Then it is decided, Molina is our 2011 opening bay 1B.

by TwoBagger on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

He also had a nice little Sammy Sosa hop after that dinger

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Tommy a lot. I think he’ll hit. Roger’s K’s concern me. I always fear when guys with big K%‘s move up a level against tougher pitching. Still, I think he’s a Top-10 prospect in our system.

I keep hearing that Noonan’s swing isn’t very good — lots of arm-barring.

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by xanthan on Feb 10, 2010 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

Chubby guy hurts other guy.

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by xanthan on Feb 10, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is the skinny guy shooting question marks out of his ass?

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 10, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it could be the number 2

In which case the skinny guy is jcb9.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

But doesn’t number 2 come out of all of our asses?

The baseball Satanist

by thehavenot on Feb 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the ampersands were starting to hurt.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I keep hearing that Noonan’s swing isn’t very good — lots of arm-barring.

I’ve heard this, but it seems like that would be something that would be really easy to fix. Why wouldn’t it be?

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by jcb9 on Feb 10, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I love arbitrary cutoffs

So I only care about teams top 4 prospects. Outside of them, it’s just way too hit or miss for my liking.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Feb 10, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

Then the Giants have the best system in the game! I like it!

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 10, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

i miss this show :(

by PiKAgiant on Feb 10, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I never tire of this

Also, the cunt(pause)ry western singer joke was AMAZING for non-cable. That show was mindbendingly good at times.

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t see you at the convention in Germany last year.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Feb 10, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I teleconferenced in.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Feb 10, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Every single time I hear Nick Noonan I always promise myself that I am going to rewatch Caddyshack.

by srpwrd on Feb 10, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Just wander around VS network, they play it once a week.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Alright, I will take a look.

by srpwrd on Feb 10, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It was on WGN last night. Caddyshack is always on.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

How about a Fresca?

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Feb 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Scholarship Winner!

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s easy to grin
When your ship comes in
and you’ve got the stock market beat
but the man worthwile
is the man who can smile
when his shorts are too tight in the seat

meh heh, heheh, hahah

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Spaulding get your foot off the boat!

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Feb 10, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I christen thee, the Flying Wasp!

/breaks part of boat

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay pooky, do the honors

Sorry Seattle, 2010 still isn't your year.

by Teixeira Who? on Feb 11, 2010 2:43 AM PST up reply actions  

SPOILER

This is probably how the rest shakes out, then.

5. RafRod
4. Wheeler
3. Neal
2. Bumgarner
1. Posey

/banned

by rotorueter on Feb 10, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Fuck it. Now RafRod’s #1, just to mess with you.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 10, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

1. EME!

#1 FanShot Champion

by xanthan on Feb 10, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

EME Lives... oh wait

seriously GIS EME #2

wow thats a pretty morbid pix

Timmy thats not a bong....

by Heffe22 on Feb 10, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently this pic is more truth that the Giants believe EME is dead to them

by wilriv21 on Feb 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

dead guy is very dead

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 10, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Feb 10, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Where’s Frandsen?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take “Questions Bruce Bochy has never asked” for $500, Alex.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Feb 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

"The answer is..."

Kevin Frandsen.

And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.

by Lyle on Feb 11, 2010 2:07 AM PST up reply actions  

“Who is a person who has never been in my living room?”

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 11, 2010 6:28 AM PST up reply actions  

“Who should be the starting secondbaseman?”

And we plead and we pray for a glimmer of day
As the night folds its wings and descends, exposing the loose ends.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.

by Lyle on Feb 13, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I say Grant gets creative

5. RafRod
4. Wheeler
3. MadBum
2. Neal
1. Posey

Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...

by AngelWillSaveUs on Feb 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I banned if I think Wheeler > Neal ?

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, thats the 3.3 million dollar question

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with that inequality.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 1:06 AM PST up reply actions  

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by beat_la_25 on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Does Neal qualify as the most overrated Giants prospect EVAR?

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 10, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesse Foppert disagrees.

by Every6thDay on Feb 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We've had a lot of them.

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by hairball on Feb 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Jerome Williams comes to mind

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by Lyle on Feb 13, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

HOW DARE YOU

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna say: “This is the last time we heard from Lars”

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by ResDog on Feb 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on, man. His tools are unreal.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

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by Natto on Feb 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

That looks like a pretty real tool to me.

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by thehavenot on Feb 10, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs to be multiplied by i.

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by cornball on Feb 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

ProTip: Short leashes on ice-axes are a bad call. You don’t want those swinging around anywhere near your body.

by TwoBagger on Feb 10, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll assume yours is the learned perspective; mine certainly isn't.

But wouldn’t a longer loop have the potential to generate more stabbing power with a wider arc?
Of course that is dependent on the torque of the wearing body. No sudden movements, Lhapsang!

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 10, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Most ice-axes don’t have leashes. If they do, they’re ~4ft long so they swing past your body.

by TwoBagger on Feb 11, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Not Ever but I do think he is overrated

I’m a tad skeptical of guys who break out in the Cal League. I like Wheeler more than Neal.

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Where else was Neal supposed to break out? IDGI

He was age appropriate, he put up great numbers a year after putting up decent numbers (especially considering his injury) in low-A ball, it’s not like he came out of nowhere, he was a draft and follow who had pretty decent scouting reports who missed time due to an injury.

Obviously, you have to discount his numbers some, but I don’t think you can just blanket be skeptical of every hitter ever who plays in the Cal League because, wtf, they’ve got to play there.

Plus, the CAL is a hitter’s league but San Jose is a pretty strong pitcher’s park.

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I was trying to say that I need to see him put up some good numbers at AA before I consider him elite

Neal is similar to how I feel about Mariners 3B Alex Liddi. Both were 20-30 range prospects then broke out in the Cal league. I like them but I’m cautiously optimistic

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Cal League breakouts

a lot more than .300 batting averages in Fresno, that’s for sure.

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by natteringnabob on Feb 11, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Still pulling for Runzler. Kid impressed the hell outta me last season.

Here’s hoping that Neal is indeed real as I have been told on this site, we could really use a good 2B.

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by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

Rated #17 prospect by MLB.com’s fantasy peeps. (Ahaha.)

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by esseffgeez on Feb 10, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

or not

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by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

What was the question?

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by EliminateMe on Feb 10, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of what Sabean sees as good fortune

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions  

And by opposing, end them? Can we do that?

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by neurofarm on Feb 11, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I love this site.

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we can take (draft) high school arms against the sea of troubles brought about by Sabean’s ill-advised signings

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

HEY GUYZ, LOOK WHAT HEYMAN SAID
jermaine dye is telling teams he’s willing to play first base. he might be the most under-rated player in this market.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Pshaw

Johnny Damon. Russel Branyan. Carlos Delgado. And a bunch of other guys = more under-rated in this market than Dye.

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by hairball on Feb 10, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Delgado might retire, thats how underrated he is

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Branyan seemed like a logical Sabean move this off-season (to me, anyway). I guess Sabes got scared off by his OBP.

by Every6thDay on Feb 10, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

well… what was his BA .250?

by PiKAgiant on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

.251, to be precise

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 1:09 AM PST up reply actions  

At best, JD is as underrated as those mentioned.

by Every6thDay on Feb 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

When Red Six took pennies on the dollar it really fooked over the rest of the 1B’ers on the FA market.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Giants win arbitration with Tim and (another big) IF they are really going to spend $100 million on the ML roster, Sabean will have 5 million to spend.

If my calculations are correct.

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by ResDog on Feb 10, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

that's for Richie's broadcasting contract

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 11, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Cough

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

PLATOON

with Huff. Lefty/Righty.

Best defensive platoon ever

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Feb 10, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Theres probably a joke in there too somewhere about Huffing making you Dye or something

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh

I’m pretty sure he’s been saying he’s willing to play first base all offseason.

PROTIP: No one wants him at first base either

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This time he is super serious though

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

In RF he’s an average bat who can’t field. At first base he’s a below average bat who… we don’t even know; I don’t think he’s ever played first base, so that’s awfully close to “can’t field.” I don’t see how the first base thing helps him, really.

by taliesin on Feb 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

And I don’t see how the ball or his ability to put the bat on it changes from one geographic area where he stands to another, but let’s move on…

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 10, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

1B usually has better hitters than RF?

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by Viliphied on Feb 11, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Can’t we sign Jermaine Dye? Dye would give this team another weapon and is a capable 4th place hitter and The Giants line-up would in deed sparkle.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 1:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Needs moar duct tape an sparklerz

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 11, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice, Bocock's in the top 5 right?

He was an opening day starting shortstop in the simpler times…

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Feb 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

Burriss too

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Bocock was by far the best Opening Day starting shortstop for the Giants in 2008. That’s got to count for something.

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by JRPhillips on Feb 10, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

he got 550k or whatever the league minimum is!

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Burriss isn’t a prospect any more?

Too many MLB ABs?

by joethejet on Feb 10, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t a prospect anymore after 2008.

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I’ve become more enthusiastic about Noonan as the offseason has gone on (and not just because he put up 4 pretty good years for me in OOTP). I am super excited to see how he does this year.

Also very intrigued by Kieshnick’s power potential – people seem to think he has more than Nate, but probably less contact skills, right? And Joseph is obviously a guy I’m pretty excited about too.

None of these guys from 6-10 are GREAT prospects but I really like all of them for various reasons.

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

How does Keishnick’s dreaminess potential compare to Nate’s?

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he seems to have a full head of hair, so that’s a plus!

He looks like a BIT of a dweeb though:

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate easily wins.

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by heimy25 on Feb 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Since when did the kids start tucking their ears into their hats? Jesus, what’s next? Pants sagging below the ass-crack?

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by leftymalo on Feb 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I did that sometimes when I was a little kid, but only if my hat was too big.

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by jcb9 on Feb 10, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I did that sometimes when I was a little kid, but only if my hat was ears were too big.

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 10, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 10, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Best Giants catcher ever

Well, in the 60’s at least.

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by Lyle on Feb 11, 2010 2:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I just never liked Haller. Can’t say why; a child’s perspective, no doubt. I was always a Dietz fan.

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by Lyle on Feb 13, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t do that if I wanted to. My head is too big and I wear a size 8 cap.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Pull back the ears and he sorta looks like Jude Law

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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 1:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

Grant, can’t believe it took this long for BBTF to notice the scoop you got from Michael Lewis!

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

you are welcome

there was a mini-bocock diversion in Blue Jays zips projections.
I posted the link and Szym frontpaged it.

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by D.Szymborski on Feb 11, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Kieschnick

i hear he can pitch, er, brooks, er , what?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Feb 10, 2010 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, Grant

I’m a big Noonan fan, but even I don’t have him that high on my list (9th, I think). I’ll hold you to that “just as good as Utley” quote.

I, too, have Crawford just above Kieschnick. And I think I have Runzler around 11th, so “great minds ….”

I can’t wait to see Hector Sanchez in your top 5 – since I see you forgot him in the 6-10 list here.

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by Lyle on Feb 10, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

I’m looking forward to Runzler closing games in a couple of years.

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by 49er16 on Feb 10, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

+1

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this as "BUTT PEE"
bee-eh-bee-eye-pee

These pretzels are making me thirsty

by NuschlerFace on Feb 10, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

GIS for "unsound seat"

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by EliminateMe on Feb 10, 2010 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

That would be so dangerous to have in your house in a power outage.

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by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

/stubs toe and hits funnybone at same time

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by jhiat00 on Feb 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Runzler

During the morning Q&A at Fan Fest, they had Kruk, Kuip and Brian Wilson and asked who was going to have the breakthrough season.

Wilson said Runzler and said he really likes his stuff and mental makeup. He said he gave him the nickname, Dan “I don’t give up any” Runzler.

Kruk picked Juggernate and Kuip picked Bowker.

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by Goofus on Feb 10, 2010 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

I think Bowker will have a terrific season, in Fresno.

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by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I caught the tail end of that Q&A when they talked about Jon getting into the HOF. Great line from Kuip talking about Jon always picking up the check.

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by 49er16 on Feb 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re really milking this prospect list, Grant.

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 10, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

After it curdles, you can make cheese.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 10, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Whey must you all make these terrible jokes?

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Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 11, 2010 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL. ESPN just showed Vicente Padilla striking out Velez, Bowker, and then Rowand (twice)

by DFAAurillia on Feb 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

I think the 2nd Rowand K wasn’t a clip, either….. just a shot of Rowand at his home, swinging over a slider in the dirt…..

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by Little Napoleon on Feb 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh Rowand

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by 49er16 on Feb 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s that thing on the wall? Candle holder?

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t buy Crawford as a decent prospect. Scouts don’t like him, even though scouts are notoriously oblivious to OBP/plate discipline problems, which is Crawford’s most glaring weakness. That says to me the guy just isn’t going to be able to hit.

by Evan on Feb 10, 2010 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

I like him, but as a friend.

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by scout6 on Feb 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Now thats literally What She Said!

Timmy thats not a bong....

by Heffe22 on Feb 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

IMO both Giants SS's are overrated and underrated

A lot of what I hear is that Adrianza and Crawford are either going to be very good or Bocock. I haven’t read anything that says they will be solid regulars which is what I see them as.

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The contact is an issue. Crawford strikes out way, way too much, and he isn’t a super-patient hitter. He’s still young enough, though, that he might be more than a glove-first hacker.

Ah, lowered expectations. Guy takes 30 walks in 550 PA’s, and we say he’s not super-patient.

Also, about Kieschnick:

The only part of his game that’s a glaring weakness is his plate discipline

I think a 25.1% K rate from a 22 year old in A+ is a pretty glaring weakness. And the combination is deadly. Kieschnick’s BB/K was 0.28 – only 6 hitters had worse a worse K/BB than that in the majors last year. Of those six, Aaron Rowand was the best hitter.

I really think the importance of K/BB is underrated, especially for guys who aren’t particularly young or old for their level.

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by Cookyman on Feb 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Ah, lowered expectations. Guy takes 30 walks in 550 PA’s, and we say he’s not super-patient.

In San Jose, he wasn’t super patient, even though he was hitting well. In Connecticut, he was a mess all around.


The only part of his game that’s a glaring weakness is his plate discipline

That was supposed to include K/BB into one term. I guess I meant “control of the strike zone.”

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, for me, K/BB is more than just plate discipline or control of the strike zone .

Bottom 10 in K/BB:
Bengie Molina
Cristian Guzman
Aaron Rowand
Jeff Francoeur
Kevin Kouzmanoff
Clint Barmes
Cody Ross
Mark Teahen
Brandon Inge
Marlon Byrd

Top 10 in K/BB:
Albert Pujols
Dustin Pedroia
Yadier Molina
Todd Helton
Joe Mauer
Marco Scutaro
Luis Castillo
Nick Johnson
Chipper Jones
Adrian Gonzalez

When I look at these two lists, the first thing that comes to mind isn’t “hitters with good plate discipline, hitters with bad plate discipline”; it’s “good hitters, bad hitters”. Obviously power is another huge factor, and there are other smaller ones, but K/BB really is the base, the way I see it. I treat it like a scout treats “pure hitting ability”.

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by Cookyman on Feb 10, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yadier really made himself into a pretty good hitter for a catcher. First three years by OPS+: 78, 70, and 53. Last three years: 85, 95, and 100. Maybe Bengie should take some tips from his younger brother.

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by xanthan on Feb 10, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I was actually going to work Marlon Byrd into my Kieschnick writeup. Weird.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 10, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate Schierholtz: 308 PA 16 BB

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

/swings at HBP slider

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by Gobroks on Feb 10, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, this thread has been pretty damn on topic by our standards

Probably because I wasn’t around.

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by jcb9 on Feb 10, 2010 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

There is a bit more to talk about with these prospects – most of them are somewhat controversial so they generate good discussion.

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So…you’re saying that Ryan Can and Edward Concepcion don’t inspire great passions in most people? Huh.

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by jcb9 on Feb 10, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither was PiKAgiant.

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by Natto on Feb 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention (oops) electronic devices.

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by victor frankenstein on Feb 10, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

America

Fuck Yeah!

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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

THE GAP!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Feb 11, 2010 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Coming your way to save the mutha fucking day, ya?

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

was thinking the same thing but did not want to ruin it by pointing it out.

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: man i love being here in Ohio, watching the Sharks lose 2-0 to the jackets… almost was gonna drive to see it, it’s only an hour and a half to get to Columbus

by PiKAgiant on Feb 10, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

GO SHARKS!!

by 49erEmpire on Feb 10, 2010 6:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

My ballpark is right across the street!

by rotorueter on Feb 10, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s tight… oh well, didn’t go… and it’s a good thing too

by PiKAgiant on Feb 10, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure you enjoyed the Warriors more. Curry with a triple-double and one of only 6 rookies to score 35 with 10 rebounds and 10 assists. The other 5 were pretty good players: Kidd, Jordan, West, Robertson and Baylor.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 11, 2010 1:54 AM PST up reply actions  

That was quite a performance, and i didn’t get to watch much of it, i did watch the last quarter, and just wow… the kid is amazing, and one thing i notice with him is that he DISTRIBUTES the ball, Monta just can score any way possible… i’ll take Curry over Monta as a floor general since he gets everyone involved

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

…in which I reveal that Caddyshack references are more important than “scouting reports” or “stats.”

As if that would be news to anyone who’s spent more than five minutes on this site.

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by EliminateMe on Feb 10, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm, prospects

I like Runzler and I think he’ll get a lot of appearances this year in the bigs. Is this a little high for a reliever who has control problems? I don’t know. Joseph: younger than my younger brother. And I’m only 24. That’s young. BUT SUPER POPEYE POWER! That’s fun. And that’s my prospect update for today!

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by cornball on Feb 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

So i heard this guy Kieschnick has some good pop, he going to AAA next year or AA?

by PiKAgiant on Feb 10, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

probably AA

along with Neal, Crawford (I would hope), Ford, Noonan, etc

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by jponry on Feb 10, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

So all the team’s awesomeness will be in AA while the “meh” crew will be in AAA? (aside from Bummy who will be in AAA now that we have the greatness that is Todd Wellemeyer)

by DFAAurillia on Feb 10, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t forget Buster.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 10, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. I’m assuming we are going to handle him in the stupidest way possible. So that means he’s going to be the backup catcher and utility infielder.

by DFAAurillia on Feb 10, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I fear they’ll start Crawford at Fresno. They seem hell-bent on fast-tracking him.

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by jcb9 on Feb 10, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting...

I’m hoping they start Brandon in AAA this year. Even if that means he spends 2 years there.

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by Lyle on Feb 11, 2010 5:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m mildly pro-Crawford, but I don’t see anything in his AA performance that suggests he’s ready to move up a level.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, bottom line, I think he’s a better hitter than his Dodd numbers would indicate. Although I’m not certain of it, and therefore would be willing to have him spend 2 years in AAA. I just want to see him face some former-ML pitchers who can throw him junk – I think he needs that challenge. This, of course, assumes his defense is acceptable.

I recognize it’s entirely possible I have overrated him, based on his San Jose production and overall scouting report.

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by Lyle on Feb 13, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

If Crawford is at AAA, then Burriss plays 2b and Downs sits?

by joethejet on Feb 11, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Downs would play third? Of course, then Rohlinger wouldn’t have a spot.

I have no idea, really. They’ve just made a number of comments indicating that they think Crawford should be fast-tracked, which seems crazy to me.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

It worked for Manny Burriss, after all.

by Evan on Feb 11, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

lest we forget, from May...
Baggs says no DL for Renteria yet and they might fast track Villalona

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by PAWarrior on May 15, 2009 6:39 PM PDT actions 0 recs
 
In my desperation to not overstate things I might have gone too far the other way
they might fast track Villalona
This, uh, is not a good idea.

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by groug on May 15, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up actions 0 recs

LOL our organizational handling of hitters.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, good pop. None of this high fructose corn syrup the kids are drinking nowadays.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 10, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It's made from corn!

and fine in moderation!

High Fructose Corn Syrup is the kindest, nicest, most wonderful food additive in the world.

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Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 11, 2010 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

So those Corn Council creeps got to you too, huh?

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by EliminateMe on Feb 11, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Satan urinates high fructose corn syrup.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Dante says something about that in the Inferno.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be the 7th-up level.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 11, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Would that be the bleacher section of Dodger stadium?

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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is fine in moderation.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

If you put a $5 bill down, you can join the McCovey Chronicles/Dan Runzler pool: pick the first game in which he walks the bases loaded and strikes out the side. The winner gets the spreadsheet that I keep track of the money in, and I get the five dollars. Win/win. I pick April 8th.

April 19th! I can’t wait to see that spreadsheet!

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by neurofarm on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM PST reply actions  

Position players?

Does anyone honestly think any one of these guys is going to amount anything in a Giants uniform? I mean, maybe if they amounted to something in another team’s uniform… Then we could grab ‘em while they’re in their 30’s. That’s where the value is, nerds.

by Wazl on Feb 10, 2010 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

On MLB Network they're showing Baseball Seasons

and tonight it’s the 2004 season. I saw the Finley grand slam again for the first time since ’04. Sigh.

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by Natto on Feb 10, 2010 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

and yes, I will be switching my team for one weekend since I haven’t been able to see the Red Sox in person for 6 years (I refuse to visit the Oakland Tarp Stadium).

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

and I will be banning myself for that weekend. I won’t be on McC until Monday when I could tell Russell Martin to suck it.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 10, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

that was the last time that we were actually “in it” fur realz.

FU, FO

by oldjacket on Feb 11, 2010 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Comparing Brandon Crawford to Jack Wilson?!?! Crawford’s D will never even come close to Wilson’s

Panda 4 Prez

by KingChronic on Feb 10, 2010 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

And you say this based on…?

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by jcb9 on Feb 10, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Hasn’t played enough games at the major league level!

by speckops on Feb 10, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we cut Pierce

According to the Newark Star-Ledger, the Giants have released MLB Antonio Pierce.
Pierce has confirmed the news via e-mail. The move had been expected since the end of the season. Pierce, 31, was due $4.75M in 2010, and there are questions about his health due to a bulging disk in his neck that caused him to miss the final six games of the season. Jonathan Goff, Chase Blackburn and Bryan Kehl are internal options to replace Pierce, but the Giants will likely look outside the organization for a permanent solution.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Feb 11, 2010 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Who?

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

great show.

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Feb 11, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Talkin bout Community?

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

el bigote de las cabras es Cameron Diaz.

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Feb 11, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Kindof a fan of that show, one of the best new shows, it’s perfect because it’s on around the same time as The Office

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t he the guy who was with Plaxico when he shot himself?

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Feb 11, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

watching a game from the 2003 WS on the MLB Network

David Eckstein looks like an eight year old. Also, I fucking hate him.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

just overheard on the MLB Network
The Nationals are said to be the favorites to nail Wang down.

Um, ow.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

This one was better


 Heyman now tweets that the Dodgers have “pulled out of the Wang derby.”

by DFAAurillia on Feb 11, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I’ll be glad when teams stop “eyeing Wang”.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw a video of that on the internet.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Goofus must be working for MLB Network

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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

OT - Top 10 Pitchers Aged 25 or Younger

http://feeds.foxsports.com/mlb/story/lincecum-king-felix-lead-parade-of-young-star-pitchers

1. Tim
3. Matt

And la-la-la, I don’t want to hear about Gallardo or Jurrjens being better than Cain.

The next 10: Bumgarner (7)

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Gallardo is prolly better than Cain dude, uncover your ears

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

/continues whistling loudly
/quickly scrolls past Kershaw and Billingsley mentions

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by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha, but i have to say, don’t care about the list, Cain + Tim >>>> Everybody

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s more like it!

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Not even kidding either

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I was pretty baffled by that list before I checked and saw Greinke is 26.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, some others that threw me off

Verlander – 27
J Johnson – 26

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by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Here was ESPN’s list last year:

2 Tim Lincecum 25 (in June)
6 Cole Hamels 25
12 Felix Hernandez 23
13 Francisco Liriano 25
16 Chad Billingsley 25 (in July)
18 Zack Greinke 25
19 Yovani Gallardo 23
22 Scott Kazmir 25
25 Jon Lester 25
27 Joba Chamberlain 23
31 Kevin Slowey 25
32 Matt Cain 24
35 Matt Garza 25
36 Max Scherzer 25 (in July)
38 Josh Johnson 25
48 Clayton Kershaw 21
49 John Danks 24
50 David Price 24 (in Aug)

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I would think David Price would’ve been higher. Everyone seemed to think he was the second coming after the 08 postseason

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by Useful_Idiot on Feb 11, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Young Giants pitchers are young.

And Bumgarner is 13, right?

/has a glad

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 11, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Jacobs

$900,000, plus incentives if he makes the team. LOL Mets.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

Any amount of money is too much for Mike Jacobs. He hits like Bengie Molina, except he strikes out a lot more, and he’s a first baseman who can’t play defense. He’s been below 0 WAR two years in a row – and he was at 0.2 the year before that. He’s worthless.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s pretty pathetic… to be honest, 900K for somebody that doesnt do jack

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know who this Seth Everett person is on Baseball Tonight, but he is a fucking moron.

by DFAAurillia on Feb 11, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

He also hosts MLB Home Plate on XM radio. You’re right. He is a doofus.

WHY IS BENGIE?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 11, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. He’s on BBTN now? He’s awful.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you listen to MLB XM, too? I always find myself listening to it. And then I find myself getting angry. The JODY MAC guy is truly awful. His voice is the worst but he’s also really dumb.

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That guy used to be on WFAN.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather listen to Damon Bruce I think.

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck yea, you know whats up!!!

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Settle down, Pika.

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

(Damon Bruce sucks)

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Suck it… don’t make me let the tiger outta the cage

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that something Damon would say?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 11, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

While sexually harassing a female coworker, maybe.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

OH HEAVENS NO!!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

if that’s mike tyson’s tiger, i would be careful!

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 11, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

the most ridiculous ex-WFAN peronality: Suzyn Waldman
In an online poll by Newsday, Waldman was voted the worst commentator in New York by the fans. 89 WFAN-AM hosts Chris “Mad Dog” Russo and Mike Francesa have poked fun at her over-the-top reaction to the Roger Clemens signing in which she repeatedly exclaimed “Oh my goodness gracious!”10 Suzyn eventually confronted the duo in a long expletive-laced tirade, in which she expressed her obvious embarrassment of the situation.
Waldman was roundly criticized for her breakdown on the air following the Yankees’ 2007 Divisional Series loss to Cleveland.15 She openly cried on the air for WCBS 880 AM while reporting about the morose atmosphere in the Yankees clubhouse on the post-game show.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

WFAN is apparently the breeding ground for awful announcers in baseball.

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Chris Russo in the early 90s, because when I was in New Jersey at the time, NOBODY else I ever met or heard or saw liked the Giants or even ever mentioned them, prior to 1993.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

and now that I think of it

Suzyn Waldman and Jody Mac once cohosted WFAN’s afternoon show, I think. Imagine that!

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Is she the one who does the color commentary on Yankees radio?

I heard her once and she was terrible.

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s her and Sterling (who is also bad), I think.

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved when our announcers were poking fun at him when the Yankees were in town a few years ago.

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Some may accuse Kruk and Kuip of homerism, but I’m so glad we don’t have announcers who just try to cheerlead like that. So annoying.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Whats great about them is because they are homers, and yet they are not. It’s quite funny when they voice their frustrations.

Then there is Jon’s Rivera call…

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

What irritated me about Krukow last year was he was still pushing the “We’re in this thing!!” bullshit when all of us knew they Giants weren’t in this thing. Kuiper already had given up by that time.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 11, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Then this is the game for you!

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I downloaded the demo having no idea Bruce did the PBP. I deleted it soon after.

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by xanthan on Feb 11, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

either way the top 5 are pretty legit

by PiKAgiant on Feb 11, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He will make an article for each prospect to spread them out.

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by Natto on Feb 11, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

1. BUSTER PO-

(to be continued tomorrow)

by Evan on Feb 11, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Ping Pong balls? I thought you said King Kong’s balls.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 11, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

A common mistake.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Glavine officially retires

Did you know the Los Angeles Kings once drafted him ahead of Luc Robitaille?

Hmmm. No, I did not.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Feb 11, 2010 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

Tony Gwynn was selected in the NBA Draft.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lulz

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

God speed Tommy Boy.

You kicked some serious ass.

Signed, Giants fan still bitter about Atlanta.

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck the Braves.

Fuck baseball for somehow putting them in the western division.

Fuck Bud Selig for doing realignment/playoff expansion THE NEXT YEAR.

Fuck everyone.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You could argue that the expansion and realignment was done because of that season.

You could, I’m not going to, cause I am lazy.

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought it was already in the works at that point.

Also, fuck Fay Vincent, come to think of it. He had tried to do a simpler realignment – move the Braves and the Reds to the NL East and the Cubs and the Cardinals to the West – but he failed to get it through.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

speaking of Fay Vincent
The leaders in the movement to oust Vincent were members of what The Sporting News later dubbed The Great Lakes Gang:3
Bud Selig, president of the Milwaukee Brewers;
Jerry Reinsdorf, chairman of the Chicago White Sox;
Stanton Cook, head of the Tribune Co., which owned the Chicago Cubs;
Carl Pohlad, owner of the Minnesota Twins;
Peter O’Malley, the longtime majority owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers

What a fucking honor roll THAT is, huh?

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You are most likely right. I was 6 at the time, so my memory fluxes between that, and TMNT episodes.

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by scout6 on Feb 11, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

What I never got was, why was the Braves even in the NL West to begin with in 1969?

"meh"

by SFGuy on Feb 11, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Milwaukee is really far west, apparently!

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No one else would have them.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 11, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

This brings up an interesting point. Since 1888 (when Pud Galvin one his 300th game) there’s only been one year in baseball history where there was no (current or eventual) 300 game winner active. That year was 1945 and it was only because both Warren Spahn and Early Wynn were in the service that season. In fact, there have been relatively few seasons in which only 1 member of the 300 game club was active (1930-1938 and 1940 when only Lefty Grove was active, and 1943-44 when only Early Wynn was active). With the retirements of both RJ and Glavine we’re back to the situation of 1994, or perhaps 1965* wondering who’s active who will carry on the torch. Somebody is I’m sure. But who knows who it will be.

*When Spahn retired after the ’65 season, active future 300 game winners were just getting out of the gates: Gaylord Perry (24 wins), Phil Niekro (2 wins), and Steve Carlton (0 wins).

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by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Who are the active wins leaders now?

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

hmm

Jamie Moyer – 258
Andy Pettitte – 229
Tim Wakefield – 189
Kevin Millwood 155
Roy Halladay – 148
Tim Hudson – 148

None of those guys, I don’t think.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay’s the only real contender there.

by Evan on Feb 11, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

But he’s also 32. 33 in May. If he pitches until the season he turns 40, he’d have to average 19 wins a year. He’d probably need to pitch effectively into his 40s to make it.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

oh geez

I just noticed we drafted Joe Fontenot one pick before the Jays got Halladay.

/sobs

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Fontenot helped us get Nen, at least. Not quite the disaster of Torcato before Sabathia.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Wakefield.

He’s got my favorite contract in the world.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Feb 12, 2010 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but if history’s any guide it could just as easily be a Javier Vasquez kind of guy who just doesn’t get injured and keeps on pitching for a long time. After all, Perry and Niekro and Sutton made it, not Marichal and Koufax and Gibson.

Also, I kind of think Mussina could have lasted long enough to get there if he’d really wanted to.

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by Roger on Feb 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

WHOA!

In this Cardinals-Tigers World Series game, they just showed a fan wearing a helmet in the shape of a pumpkin – with the Tigers logo carved out of the front, jack o’ lantern style. Creepy!

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

Mays has to be one of the best interviews in baseball! If there is someone better, i can’t think of him.

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 11, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Buck O’Neil was a pretty great interview. He’s no longer with us, though.

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by jcb9 on Feb 11, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

same with Big D Don Drysdale

by wilriv21 on Feb 11, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

didn’t he play for some scab poser team no one cares about?

No one here gets out alive.

by Bond16 on Feb 11, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

while I will scream “BEAT LA” with anyone I have always liked Big D. My favorite player was Willie Mays and Big D owned Mays. He would buzz Mays constantly. Anyone who could own Mays had my attention. Now Wille McCovey owned Big D.

Big D was open, honest, confident and funny in his interviews.

by wilriv21 on Feb 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

helluva an announcer too, I found out while living down there

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Feb 11, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

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