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Some of you might be too young to remember, but Byung-Hyung Kim used to be really good. Then he became a starting pitcher, lost six or seven miles off his fastball, and had all sorts of arm injuries, not necessarily in that order.

I'd give a spring training invite to Greg Minton if he wanted one. It's an no-risk, all-reward proposition, and I especially like when they're given to 31-year-old relievers with a history of past success. A distant, distant history, sure, but....

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meh

I hope Ching Ming Wang gets an invite as well

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Feb 1, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Chien.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Shoot. Sorry Mr. Wang.

/waits

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Feb 1, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This statement is strikingly similar to something a female may have uttered at one point!

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...-----RIP, MY SON

by rotorueter on Feb 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

DO NOT SHOOT MR WANG!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 1, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

obiligatory TWSS

TEMPORARY SIG AWAITING FINAL SABEAN APOCALYPSE
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game in development

by zenbitz on Feb 1, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Wang won’t have to settle for a minor-league deal.

by taliesin on Feb 1, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to copy/paste something I wrote in the fanpost by Can of Corn

The average fan doesn’t truly understand how important Chien Ming Wang is to Taiwan. He is not only the pride and joy of every Chinese Baseball player, but he carries the burden of an entire country with him in his quest for a second chance in the Major Leagues.

This is a 2 minute spot commercial for Johnnie Walker that aired in Taiwan last year. I am not kidding, I actually cried when I saw the commercial for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhkEXrYo4JA

Watch it in its entirety, even if you don’t understand Chinese. I think you can get the picture.

I would really, really, really REALLY love
to see him get a chance in a Giants uniform. It would mean soooo much to me as a Giants fan.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Feb 1, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you. Except for the crying part.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Feb 1, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m with him, but only for the crying part.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Good thing they threw in the bottle or you never would have known what the ad promoted.

I get the “Persevere” approach, but it’s a tad ironic since walks aren’t exactly a pitching plus.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 1, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. The main reason that my dad follows MLB is to see the Taiwanese players, and I HATE that he roots for the Dodgers sometimes because of that. C’mon Giants brass, get on with scouting in Asia!

by GeoFreak on Feb 1, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the message:

when getting shitfaced dreaming of your second chance, drink Black Label! The pain killer of choice for ex-baseball players who are still under the illusion they can right their failures and relive their glory days!

The only thing missing is him getting pushed to the sidewalk at 2 AM.

by KrazyKrabMeat on Feb 1, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That made you cry? Were you in a fragile mood or something?

Unfortunately, many baseball fans will know him most for those two home runs he gave up in the 01 world series

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 1, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I am rather fond of the Wang

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Feb 1, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

#2 in Fanshots

by scout6 on Feb 1, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Because many baseball fans can’t tell the difference between Chien Ming Wang and Byung-Hyung Kim?

That doesn’t surprise me, to be honest.

Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 2, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this was a good signing. At best, he’s useful. At worst, he’s meaningless. Hooray!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 1, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

This guy was my perpetual white whale from 2004-2007. I like it on a purely emotional level.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...-----RIP, MY SON

by rotorueter on Feb 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Shift + A

What’d I miss?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Feb 1, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

There was another argument about mayonnaise.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 1, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

All mayonnaise sympathizers should be lined up against teh wall and shot!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 1, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

...FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Feb 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually use disturbing (at least according to my wife) amounts of mayo myself.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Feb 1, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurt Warner's going into the Pro Football HOF as a mayonnaise jar.

He beat the spread!

– CLANK –

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 1, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurt Warner sucks. That is all.

by Missing Barry on Feb 1, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you sure that's all?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 1, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, there's more:

Matt Leinart sucks

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 2, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Leinart is not the one sucking

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Feb 2, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like PikaGiant

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 2, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a hell of a day today. Nice change from the usual.

First, my car showed me what happens when you try to get by without an alternator…only it waited until we were five miles down the freeway.

Then I took a brisk five mile walk…in flip flops. (I was OK with that)

My ex works close to where I live so the graph line shot up then.
(Stay friendly with your exes – it pays in many ways. Like car loaners.)

I blistered my unemployment – softened hands helping a friend install a house water supply line which he generously overpaid me on, and I was OK with that as well.

“What’s your point, Vic?”

Oh, that.
On the way to the job I dialed up ESPN Radio.
You know, where it’s a different talk show host every two hours?

Well, I managed to catch two slots – and they both had the same interview with the same ex football player, who managed to basically give the same answers twice…except that with Jim Rome he also said:

“What people don’t understand is that I didn’t sign for a single dime more with Arizona, that I didn’t go to San Francisco for the money – it was about being wanted.”

I tuned in too late to catch the details on how the Bidwillians had slighted the man that many credit with pulling the franchise out of the mire.

On the way home I saw Frankenstein Jr. waiting for a bus home, and I SWOOPED. See, we had a falling out a week ago when he tried to sneak a lie by me about cleaning his room but his mom gave him up.

Him being at that bus stop when I drove by was every bit a coincidental as Warner being the favorite ESPN guest.

Rapprochement ensued. Good times.

Waiting for you all to cameo here in Blankland…

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 2, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Unlikely support for Missing Barry secured today as Bob Frantz claims Warner is “a first-ballot Hall of Famer.” I was sort of on the fence before, but going by the rule of “Bob Frantz is always wrong about everything” will rarely mislead you. So I guess Kurt Warner just really wasn’t that good.

by taliesin on Feb 1, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

All mayonnaise sympathizers should be lined up against teh wall and shot…

…with fire-hoses of delicious mayonnaise!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 1, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

this place could provide “teh wall”.

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 1, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That should not be legal.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Feb 1, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

bleh

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 1, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

マヨラのパラダイス!

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Feb 1, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 1, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That actually sort of works.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Feb 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

HIJACK!!!

What’s your favorite rubber cement?? Mine’s ELMER’S.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Feb 1, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there any real limit on MiL signings?

Other than the practical implications of finding playing time and evaluation time for everyone? Or can there be 6 split squads?

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".

Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Feb 1, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Number of mobile humans.

The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga

Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz

The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6

by dregarx on Feb 3, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, look! It’s another player over the age of 30 whose best years are almost certainly behind him!

2010 is definitely shaping up to be another “Reverse Logan’s Run” seasons for the Giants. Oh how I missed the obsession with veteran grit.

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Feb 1, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

I just had veteran grits for breakfast this morning

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 1, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow he is only 31 years old? Man, he was only 22 during the 2001 WS where he broke his neck.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Feb 1, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Dude warms up in the pen without pants.

"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club

by jwizzle241 on Feb 1, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Schulman just tweeted that we signed LHP Horacio Ramirez to a minor league deal as well.

I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.

by Norm Median on Feb 1, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

ew

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...-----RIP, MY SON

by rotorueter on Feb 1, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

cool

Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?

by TexasRanger on Feb 1, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

why?

Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Feb 1, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure he tweeted it because it’s his job to keep us informed about this stuff.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Feb 1, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, Justin Kanooooodler.

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 1, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

1st PA= HBP

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 1, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Knoedler

signed with the Bums actually, according to the twittersphere

by kezargiants on Feb 1, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

cool

Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?

by TexasRanger on Feb 1, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

Reminds me of classic Krukow

2001 (or 2002), Marvin Benard (!) takes Kim deep to win a game against the rival D-backs. Kruk on the post-game wrap: “Byung Hung One.”

by ho-hum baby on Feb 1, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on Feb 1, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

doesn’t deserve the correct spelling…

~wake me up when they score some runs~

by HarshInFresno on Feb 1, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Who doesn’t? Sabian?

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Feb 1, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

those cymbals have a nice sound

by coicoy on Feb 1, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer Paiste for sound, and Zildjian for toughness

by ktice on Feb 1, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

these moves suggest one thing to me...

 the giants are not giving madbum the 5th spot. instead, they’re out there fishing for a cheap veteran who will “suprise” in spring training, and “take” the job away.

 mark my words

by giantdonkey on Feb 1, 2010 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

So we should expect Livan, Ponson and Estes to follow?

by GiantJay on Feb 1, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

i’d be happier with smoltz and pedro

by giantdonkey on Feb 1, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Vote for Pedro

/nepolean dynamite

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Feb 1, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

My head says Pedro

My heart says Estes

Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Feb 2, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Where do we talk about Garko signing for $550,000 with the Mariners?

by GiantJay on Feb 1, 2010 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

gar-who?

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Feb 1, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Geico, the Australian first baseman who mash’em the lefties

by GiantJay on Feb 1, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

and tony stewart look-alike

by awok6 on Feb 1, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably in the Fanshot about Garko signing for $550,000 with the Mariners.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Feb 1, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I always liked Kim a lot

I hope he can put it back together for us.

On the down side: listening to Greg Papa refer to him as “BK Kim.”

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 1, 2010 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

Why not?

He was BK Kim to the Blankcasters the whole time he was with the Blanks.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Feb 1, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Surely the finest endorsement!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 1, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Classic Mark Grace appearence on The Jungle

Rome’s asking him what he said to Byung Hung Kim when he went to the mound after BK surrendered two dingers in relief. Grace says, "I said ‘Why you giving up all those homers, BK?’ "

"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino

by achiappanza on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus, dude flipped off Fenway, so he has THAT going for him too

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Feb 1, 2010 6:54 PM PST reply actions  

I think I’ve seen this picture before.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Feb 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Kim was pretty good before he went crazy.

He somehow got the idea he was losing face by being a reliever and flipped out.

Of course he was frickin’ money the last month of the 2003 season, saving 17 games in a row and pitching everyday to shore up a horrible bullpen. Then he pitches in the ALDS, is throwing frickin’ smoke AS A SUBMARINER, and gets pulled by Gump Little after striking out Mark Ellis with 2 outs. He gave up a walk and hit a guy, but still.

That he got booed for that was ridiculous. Should be Exhibit A in “Red Sox fans might be douches”.

by Bitter Fan on Feb 2, 2010 7:49 AM PST reply actions  

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