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Jayson Werth and the Giants

The best comparison for Jayson Werth -- a tools-laden disappointment in his early career, and a good middle-of-the-order hitter right around age 30 -- is Henry Rodriguez. Baseball Reference gives a few other names as comps...

Star-divide

 

...but they’re not quite as accurate as the Rodriguez comp. Brad Hawpe just woke up in a closet in Laos, chewing on his own glove, not sure how he got there, only remembering that it all started with a pop-up to shallow right; on the other hand, Werth is a good fielder. A minor difference between the two. Kal Daniels was a preternatural talent who chewed up major league pitching from an early age, but his knees failed him before he turned 30. Werth’s career path is almost the compete inverse.

But Rodriguez is one of the better comps out there. And he was done by the time he was 32. Werth is 31, and he just got a Barry Zito contract. Werth is a danged good player, but he isn't great, and he's already on the wrong side of 30. It probably would have been more practical to buy Finland, set up a baseball academy there, and make a law forbidding any other team from signing Finns, but now we're just splitting hairs.

The Giants could have used Werth. Really, really could have used him. He's a right-handed hitter who plays a position that the Giants needed to fill at the beginning of the offseason. The Giants didn't even try to make eye contact with his agent, and that was before anyone knew he was going to get a truly absurd contract. The Giants were out on Werth from the last pitch of the World Series*.

Now, there are a couple of reasons that the Giants can't really outbid anyone these days.


Barry Zito

#75 / Pitcher / San Francisco Giants

6-4

205

L

L

May 13, 1978



Aaron Rowand

#33 / Center Field / San Francisco Giants

6-0

220

R

R

Aug 29, 1977


 

Yes, but if you can think of an easier way to get a fifth starter and a fifth outfielder, I'd like to hear it.

But even after the Zito and Rowand deals end (2034), I don't think the Giants are going to give out a long-term contract to a player outside of the organization for a long, long time. Because while those are the obvious misses, the front office also remembers that at one time or another, the Giants offered about $200M in contracts to Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Lee, Gary Matthews, Jr., and Juan Pierre. And as the Giants were busy getting out of their own way, they won a World Series with a combination of short-term deals and pre-arbitration youngsters.

For the next, oh, decade, you can just ignore the top five or ten names on the list of pending free agents. It's not that the Giants can't afford them, per se, it's just not a practical way of building a team. It never really was, but the Giants are now as allergic to long-term free-agent deals as any team in the game. Good.

Comment starter: Guess the year that a non-homegrown player gets a deal from the Giants worth more than $50M. I'll go with 2019. Gerrit Cole is just that good.

*11/1/10 -- Brian Wilson struck out Nelson Cruz to win the championship

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2012: Jose Reyes

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Ooh. I forgot about shortstops.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 6, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

All we have to play shortstop is a dusty mop and Ryan NOT A SS Rohlinger.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was the dust mop reference.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was Tejada.

by Natto on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s the wet mop.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always thought of him as more of a wet nurse.

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 6, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

my boy

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Baby come back

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 6, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I want my baby back

ribs.

Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.

by MHizzle on Dec 6, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The Swiffer picks up everything.

Not sure if Tejada does that. Wouldn’t Crawford be the Swiffer? Picks up everything but has a very thin stick.

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Dec 6, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure he appreciates comments about his stick. He’s probably self-conscious about it.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d go with 2012: Jimmy Rollins

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

BAY AREA TIES

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Though I could see him getting a 3/$45M deal. I don’t think you’ll need to go for a long-term deal with him next time.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought the same thing about Werth. I thought he would be a little undervalued and then NATIONALS happened.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, on the bright side, we know that it wasn’t bidding that shot Werth’s price through the roof. It was the Nationals being morons. With any luck, Rollins won’t get a similar deal.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Nationals sign Rollins to 7 year/$140 million deal.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re welcome to continue being stupid if they’d like…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I could see something around 4 years for close to $60M.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I can roll with that (oh snap)

by djfivenine on Dec 6, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ll get 2012: Jason Bartlett and 2013: Miguel Tejada, and you’ll like it.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as it’s a one year contract, that’s perfect!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa. I just had an insight for the annual MLB winter play. We’ll cast Zack Grienke as Radley in To Kill a Mockingbird.

I’m seeing Chipper Jones as Atticus Finch, for some reason.

The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!

by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Grienke
The Royals appear to be tiring of the Rangers’ offers, according to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star. Discussions with Toronto appear to hinge on the Blue Jays’ willingness to include Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider in a potential deal. Royals officials say a deal could come together in a hurry if the Blue Jays decide they’re willing to part with those two players.

Kyle Drabek…breaking records as a piece in acquiring Cy Young Award winners

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The Royals have done a decent job of stock-piling young talent. Will they ever use any of it?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

by biff pocoroba on Dec 7, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

nice lol

 I never noticed your avitar before… i approve !

by giantdonkey on Dec 7, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

What about an intradivision trade with the Dbacks......

Something that would include Stephen Drew. He is arbitration eligible, made $3.4mm last year, plays a very average SS but covers more ground than Tejada, hits pretty well. On the downside, has Boras as his agent. The D’backs and Towers may listen to offers especially if we could package Sandoval, maybe Burriss or Ro, but definitely would need to kick in a reliever in order to to get Towers’ interest as he is intent on building a bullpen in Phoenix. Thoughts?

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

In connection to this move, obviously Tejada would be our everyday 3Bman

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, Towers has said he’d only trade Drew if he was “blown away” by the offer. At this point I don’t think a package built around Sandoval is blowing anyone away.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 7, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

But Ro!

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

What are Zito and Rowand looking at?

by Natto on Dec 6, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

The same thing Huff is looking at.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The newsreel that just described two bandits who held up the baseball franchise in San Francisco and stole millions of dollars in broad day light. They were thinking "holy shit, that picture looks like me!"

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If we manage to not sign a top 10 talent for the next 5 years

and have a shot at keeping Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Posey around for at least 5 more years, I’ll be a happy panda.

by djfivenine on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I don't know

It isn’t practical to BUILD a team via free agency (unless you’re the Yankees), but it’s the best way to fix holes on a team that is close to being a contender, or is already there but has an opening and some cash. I don’t think the Giants will be giving out big contracts to free agents anytime soon if only because they’ll be too busy extending homegrown players, but it’s not that bad an idea if a good player his free agency when we have an opening and some payroll space. Long-term, big money contracts are given out by teams pretty much knowing that the last few years are going to be bad, but hoping that the first few years will provide enough value for a few postseason appearances.

Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.

Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)

by quincy0191 on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Perhaps the distinction is overvalued/overpriced free agents.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Even the Yankees don’t built their team via free agency. Cano, Jeter, Rivera are among those who were home grown.

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by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand

Sabathia, Burnett, Teixeira, Rodriguez, Swisher, and more were FA imports. Before Cano’s emergence this year, the Yankees hadn’t grown a star since Jeter/Rivera in the mid-90’s.

Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.

Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)

by quincy0191 on Dec 6, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Soriano?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 6, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Swisher was traded for a bag of balls (Betemit).

by speckops on Dec 6, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

And the emergence of those players corresponds exactly with their return to competitiveness in the mid-90s. And if they can’t replace players like that, especially at the critical positions they happened to fill with the “core four”, they’re not going to be able to continue winning for the long term.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If you draft right and build from within, then you can deploy the "stay away from the high priced free agent market"

however, if you don’t draft right, if you can’t build a farm system, if you have seasons where your top prospect is spending the entire season recovering from Tommy John surgery ala Stephen Strasburg, then we are going to be desperate ala Washington Nationals and get aggressive with the pursuit of high priced free agents like JW.

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

2013

No idea who, but that Zito/Rowand money is going to be burning a hole in the Giants pocket.

The thing you’ve forgotten about the Giants, Grant, is that they never learn.

/eagerly awaits WS DVD narrated by Rob Schneider

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Dec 6, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Post-Giant players are littered about the pages of baseball history

with MVP’s,ROY’s,Cy Young Award winners and World Championships.
              Hornsby,Perry,Cepeda,Caldwell,Stone,Maddox,Matthews,Metzger,Gladden,Evans,Herndon,Madlock,Chili and almost Joe Morgan and Al Holland!
 My brain started to go Joe STRAIN!
I stopped in the early eighties off the top of my head. I know there’s more.
   Bless this 2010 World Series Championship team

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)

by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck

George Foster!

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)

by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

A.J.

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)

by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

In 2013...

…$20M of that Zito/Rowand money is still going to be burning holes in Barry Zito’s pocket. And another $7M in 2014, assuming the team buys out the $18M option.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 6, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s funny, but if we don’t have someone waiting in the wings, it’ll almost make sense to exercise the option. For $11 MM, we might not upgrade the rotation that considerably.

by speckops on Dec 6, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

TINSTAAPP and all, but Wheeler should almost certainly be ready by 2014. Whether or not he’s an upgrade, it might be a good idea to at least approach the situation similarly to how they went about it this past year with Bumgarner.

But yeah, if the Wheelers fall off between now and 2014, and no other pitchers show they might be ready for the 5th spot, one last year of Zito might not be the worst thing in the world.

by druncan on Dec 6, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants may not have a choice if the option vests – i.e. if Zito averages 200 innings in his last 3, 2, or final year(s).

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Hampton? Kevin Brown? Darren Dreifort? Carlos Beltran? Vernon Wells? Alfonso Soriano? Which contract are you referring to, exactly? Because Zito’s isn’t worse than any of theirs.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Schmidt (results based) gets my vote

Something like:
$3.2M per Start
$10.7M per Win (I know, I know … but still)

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

didn’t Pavano’s Yankee contract break down worse than that?

Thing A

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by sam23 on Dec 6, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Not even close

$40M contract w/ the NYY
9 Wins
26 Starts

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Beltran was an OK contract. He had one OK year, 3 fantastic years (arguably the MVP in 2006), another great half year, and another good half year.

Over the duration of the contract, including the past two years, he’s averaged 537 PA’s with a .279/.366/.499 line (126 OPS+), Gold Glove fielding in CF, and good baserunning. He basically did what Torres did this year, for 6 years.

Zito, on the other, for the same money, has yet to have a single season that was better than mediocre, and is only likely to get worse. Seriously, even just comparing the two feels silly.

by Cookyman on Dec 7, 2010 4:37 AM PST up reply actions  

OK. I’ll give you Beltran. Bad example, and I was wrong.

But just to clarify — if by “mediocre” you mean league average, which is pretty darn valuable (almost $10M per season valuable, by this offseason’s market; closer to $8M per season when we signed him), then I agree.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 7, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Without Zito, the Giants wouldn't have gotten to the postseason.

Without getting to the postseason, they wouldn’t have won the World Series. Therefore Zito’s contract is not the worst ever.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 6, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

"assuming the team buys out the $18mm option" - the team has already drafted the paperwork to exercise its option 3 years early.

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Semi-OT

Gerrit Cole really is that good. I go to UCLA and I watched him pitch 3 or 4 times last year, and he’s got some freakin STUFF. Control is a bit of an issue, but control is easier to find later in his career.

I also think the Giants should consider Trevor Bauer, the other UCLA ace, in the lower end of the 1st round if he gets to them. Control and off-speed stuff (curveball and changeup) and nearly ML-ready.

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Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit

by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

I haven't seen him pitch

But I’ll always think he’s pretty cool for turning down the Yankees money to play ball in the Pac-10.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, this.

As good as our pitching drafts have been recently, I have no problem with grabbing more.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I read the

Rany on the Royals blog every now and then, and he has constantly mentioned that "the Royals seem to be actually testing the long-held mantra ‘you can never have too much pitching’ "

that is some farm system they have over there in KC

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

After all...

…who needs hitters when you pitch shut-outs? =P

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

SUREFIRE WORLD SERIES WINNERS!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but too bad KC's farm system doesn't belong to KC....I think it is under contract to the Yankees.

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

but control is easier to find later in his career.

Jonathan Sanchez says “hi.”

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That metaphor got away from me.

by Viliphied on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez has gotten better. Significantly.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh.

I think “significantly better” is a stretch.

He’s kinda the same guy he’s always been. The only major change he has on a year to year basis is BABIP, otherwise he’s high-strikeout, high-walk.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he did get slightly better at a certain point, but only slightly. I’d have to overhaul my argument, and anyhow, it’s not agitation for anything significant. He’s a good arm for a lot of teams, very frustrating here.

by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

By FIP

2008: 3.85
2009: 4.17
2010: 4.00

I just don’t see this “improvement” that everyone always talks about with Jonathan. He strikes out more people now than he did 2 years ago, but he walks more people too.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll dig up my old post on this. The change iirc happens mid ’08. And as I said — it was a slight improvement, not a great one. I think he is what he is, which is valuable enough, but not as valuable as the zomg-he-threw-a-no-no brigade thinks. Maybe one-third as valuable.

by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

His improvement is found in his IP/G and variance.

2008 29 starts, 5.3 innings per start, 4.6 variance. 6 starts more than 4 ER, all less than 5 innings. KABOOM!
2009 29 starts, 5.3 innings per start, 3.2 variance. 6 starts more than 4 ER, all less than 5 innings. (what ever sound meltdowns make)
2010 33 starts, 5.7 innings per start, 2.5 variance. Only 3 starts more than 4 ER, 2 were less than 5 innings.

He pitched more games, more innings, and was far more consistent with results. The melt down games are gone. The rate stats are only slightly better, but the results are better I would say due to maturation, not luck. Yes he walks the highwire between Ks and BB, but he has learned to keep cool and finish off batters.

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by fierrpawz on Dec 6, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess

But Ceora up there said Jonathan has gotten “significantly better” – I don’t think adding .4 IP/G while the rest of your stats remain mediocre makes you significantly better.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I would agree.

And the FIP stats and strand rate says luck. But in actually watching the games, he is a different pitcher now with 2 runners on. Bad Sanchez melted down into a puddle of goo. I think the COL 8/4 game was a perfect example of it. walk walk walk walk runners every where. He found a K every time to get out of it. Ends the game 6 IP, no ER, 9K 4BB. Early Sanchez would have given up 7ER and never made it past the 2nd.

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by fierrpawz on Dec 6, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

And my initial statement was based on what I remember seeing with my eyes rather than stats.

Apparently the stats ran my comment into the ground…oops!

Anyhow, I’m still on the Sanchez bandwagon. Next year should be interesting.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

But that’s a lot of speculation about the differences between “old Jonathan” and “new jonathan”, when in reality there’s a lot of evidence that “new jonathan” is just “lucky jonathan”.

Personally, I would trade Jonathan, right now, for a good, shortstop with a couple years of control left and then either sign a FA starter like Pavano or pull off another trade for a warm body to wait for Wheeler. His trade value will never be higher than it is right now.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

ok playing around more with JSanchez numbers-

Correlation between ER and BB:
2008 .0897
2009 -.086
2010 – .286

He gives up less ER the more he walks. That suprised me. Luck or picking his battles?

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by fierrpawz on Dec 6, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Luck

Those numbers have to be just a matter of luck

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a stat head...

So feel free to tell me to just get out of this debate…

But he’s also giving up less hits. His BAA has gone down yearly as well. Maybe that’s just been enough to compensate for the added walks?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

But when you're relying on BAA to compensate for walking too many guys

It’s a bad sign when your BABIP is .260

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

True

His WHIP has decreased every year of his career, as has his BABIP. Which isn’t a great sign for the “Sanchez has figured it out” camp

However, FWIW, Bill James predicts his BABIP to regress to .297, but his walk rate and K rate to hold steady. Here’s his projected line…

204 IP 9.5 K/9 4.5 BB/9 0.93 HR/9 3.73 ERA 3.96 FIP, ~2.5 WAR

Not bad for a 4th starter

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

ld% says it's not just luck

I do not know at what TBF level LD% is supposed to stabilize, but 2009-10 show slightly and mostly consistently better LD% results.

Now, there has been some luck. These LOB% numbers are not sustainable. But they sure are purty.

by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever happened

To the heat Sanchez would put on his fastball in 08 tho. Am I rlly wrong or wasn’t Sanchez routinely in the mid 90’s and topping out around 96 a couple years back?

Brandon!
Belts one out of here!!

by Vaccaro on Dec 7, 2010 12:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Fangraphs lists his avg FB speeds as follows:

2006: 90.8
2007: 91.2
2008: 90.8
2009: 91.7
2010: 90.6

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2010 5:14 AM PST up reply actions  

If only Sanchez can address his control issues, he’d probably be the next Randy Johnson.
/Dreams on.

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by MHizzle on Dec 6, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Dirty has potential. The next "Randy Johnson" is a monumental stretch.

I just want to see Dirty get control of his composure. Granted, the dude has shown brilliance at times. But he completely melted down in the playoffs. His peak value could be right now and could make him a trade prospect if he doesn’t get the mental thing addressed.

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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

He didn't necessarily melt down in the play-offs...

Mentally, Dirty has matured a lot. And I think he’s handling the pressure a heck of a lot better. He put the nail in San Diego’s coffin and pitched well against the Braves. Yes, he melted down in Phillie, but I think that had less to do with his state of mind than with him just being burned out. To come off of that nightmare and to pitch as well as he did in the World Series, when still burned out, is kinda impressive. Yes, I know the WS outing wasn’t great, but it wasn’t terrible either. No worse than Timmy’s first game.

There’s arguments either way, this is just how I’m seeing it.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

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by Cody_ransom on Dec 7, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was a shame to see Sanchez completely fall apart in Phillie. It was too bad that he made a couple of costly mistakes in game 3. He’s definitely showed signs of maturing. Here’s to hoping that his control steadily improves for many years to come. Cheers.

/Sips Chardonnay.

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by MHizzle on Dec 7, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not the ratio of K/BB that is important

It is the difference between them. Also, home runs are a factor as well.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

I posted his FIP a couple comments above this one, which takes all that into account, but paints the same picture – he’s same as he ever was.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think next year we will see if Sanchez is for real or not.

His FIP could just be random variation of his true talent level though, which might have improved, but there isn’t any solid evidence he was better I guess.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It's always "next year" with Sanchez

I think there’s a lot more evidence he’ll be worse next year than that he’ll be better.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

even if he is about the same...

I would take a 3.90 FIP for a #4 starter any day.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He won't be the same

He had a .260 BABIP last year, and an absurd strand rate. He’ll have an ERA in the mid 4’s again.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

well, I mean same FIP wise

but I still think he will improve his true talent level just due to experience, and he is in his prime athletic age.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

neither of those things factor into FIP

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by Viliphied on Dec 7, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

True, true

What I mean is, Sanchez will be the same. The results we see on the field, in terms of ERA and BAA, will be worse.

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by GiantPain on Dec 7, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee

says hi back. 3.1 BB/9 from 02-07, 1.3 since.

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I’m confused.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee

was a guy with impressive stuff and no control early in his career, and has since developed control later in his career.

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I get that, but he seems like a freaky outlier example.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

Am I not allowed to ruthlessly cherry pick just to prove my point? haha

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not looking at stats…

But Felix Hernandez?

Not to the same extent as Lee, but its not exactly a stretch to say that pitchers improve.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Randy Johnson is probably the all-time best case scenario for pitchers with bad control getting better.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Right after Rick Vaughn.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty frequent that an SP’s control improves over the career. There are three reasons why I think this happens, in order of importance:

1) As you age, your stuff mellows — slows down, less movement. While this makes you more hittable, it also makes your stuff more controlable, and leads to more strikes.

2) As you gain a reputation in the league, umpires start calling more strikes for you than they did earlier in their career.

3) As your experience grows, you understand your stuff better, and know what stuff is best to rely upon for strikes, and what stuff is best to rely upon for movement when you are ahead in the count.

by bonds0756 on Dec 6, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan says hi.

Actually, on second thought, was he better than Randy? That is a debate there. Probably go with the express.

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Dec 6, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Once you adjust for context, I think you have to say Randy Johnson was better.

Johnson struck out way more hitters (rate wise), and walked far fewer, and in a hitter’s era.

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by Ott on Dec 6, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

When you think of it, that’s pretty damn impressive. It was definitely fun to hate him in his D-back days. I was quite surprised to see how well the Giants actually fared against the Big Unit. Of course, have those great hitting line-ups helped a bunch.

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by MHizzle on Dec 7, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He was not close to being near Johnson’s level.

by Cookyman on Dec 7, 2010 4:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd go with Johnson over Ryan. Both great pitchers, but Johnson proved to be able to come up big in big games.

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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 7, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

To cherry pick even more...

both Sandy Koufax and Randy Johnson had BB/9 of over 5 in the first 800 IP or so of their careers, then dropped to about 2.5 BB/9 for the remainder.

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I would just say...

…That in order to be really good. Koufax/Johnson/Lee/Hernandez good, you need the “stuff” first. Control can be found. Granted, it might not be and a draft pick could end up a bust, but if you’re trying to find stars you’ve gotta take the risk.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandy Koufax is the classic case, but it can’t be forgotten that he managed to “improve” his control in the same offseason that baseball raised the strike zone (calling his curve ball to finally be called a strike). Because of the rules change it’s really difficult if not impossible to get a grip from this distance on what extent he is responsible for his improved control and what extent context is responsible for it. Clearly some combination of the two happened, but I don’t see that we’ll ever be able to know what the mix was.

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by Roger on Dec 8, 2010 5:05 AM PST up reply actions  

He couldn’t beat the San Francisco Giants in the World Series, though. The Giants. What a blot on his record!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Lols at 2007 Cliff Lee.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLS@ 2010 WS Cliff Lee.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 6, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLS at 6.94 ERA…and at turning the Giants into a .292 team…!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s thank Cliff Lee for making Renteria the WSMVP.

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by MHizzle on Dec 7, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Think we should write him letters?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

this would be most fun!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

We could get fancy stationary and everything!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 8, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL PICKING THE BEST POSSIBLE EXAMPLE

The exception is not the rule.

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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

No, but his point is correct. Control never stops improving, stuff peaks when you’re young and then declines pretty quickly.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of golf advice

An acquaintance of mine is a scratch golfer, and I once asked him what advice he had for someone starting out. He said, “Teach ‘em to swing as hard as they can. It’s easier to slow down later for control than it is to develop power.”

So counter-intuitive, since overswinging is a very common golf problem. But it makes sense.

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by achiappanza on Dec 7, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that I look at it

Cole’s control really isn’t as bad as I thought. I don’t know how much weight you put into college stats, but his BB/9 last season was only 3.8. I thought it was at least a full walk higher than that.

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

What do his other stats look like?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

11.9 K/9, 1.26 WHIP, 6.7 H/9, 0.29 HR/9 (!!), 3.37 ERA

Trevor Bauer:
11.3 K/9, 2.8 BB/9, 1.27 WHIP, 0.63 HR/9, 3.02 ERA,

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Shiny!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't

for the life of me figure out why Bauer is a less-heralded prospect than Cole. National leader is Ks last year, better control, and he throws 94-96.

It might be blasphemous to say, but i think he’s suffering from Tim Lincecum disease. He has a funky delivery that looks painful, but he’s so damn athletic and flexible that he makes it work

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

In that case...

Every other team will pass up on him, including the Dodgers since he’s in their back yard, the Giants will take the risk and pick him up, and he’ll win Cy Young’s in his first two full seasons. Science!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s an interesting one for sure. But isn’t the consensus that Cole’s raw stuff is better?

by Dan from NM on Dec 6, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I want Bauer

because that’s my last name.

Oh, and he seems pretty good, too.

by kaliber on Dec 7, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, he thwarts terrorists.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

…and tortures people.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I really should go to those games

They’re free and it’s not like I do much, and UCLA has a great team and seems to produce a quite a few prospects.

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by quincy0191 on Dec 6, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

They're really fun

I went to 3 last year and I had a great time. Bauer and Cole are worth watching

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by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of us here watched them here during the Super Regionals. Mostly to see Gary Brown for the first time.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

was he the friday or the saturday starter?

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#20

by cloudydays on Dec 7, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Neukom is allegic to those big deals

There’s some quiet organizational history behind it and certain past big deals. That’s why Bill is now the CEO. That’s why Bill wrote the new organizational manual on such things and the growth of the Giants’ farm system.

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by Rolfyboy on Dec 6, 2010 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

I think Sabean has learned from his past failures…no big deals for Huff or Uribe…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

We tried to give Uribe a big deal.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

3/20 isn't a big deal

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by Viliphied on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m kind of a big deal.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

/looks at Xanthan’s many leather-bound books
//nods in agreement

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by jhiat00 on Dec 6, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And the books are of equal height, so you know he’s classy.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So it's leather that impresses you?

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by Rolfyboy on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Leather: It’s not just for the bedroom any longer…

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by bgunn on Dec 6, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

so i smell a hint of rich mahogany?

by busterbarelyevenknowher on Dec 6, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll show you a big deal!

by Dan from NM on Dec 6, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

RIGHT HERE!

/grabs crotch.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU ALWAYS TAKE THINGS TOO FAR, HOWIE.

by Dan from NM on Dec 6, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll show you taking things too far… RIGHT HERE!

/grabs crotch.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

/Gay sex.

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by MHizzle on Dec 7, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

/Edgar Alfonso is laughing somewhere

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s Edgardo Alfonzo to you.

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by MHizzle on Dec 7, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the group called The Giants Investors

learned from past failures, and it wasn’t all Sabean.

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by Rolfyboy on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You’d think $12-$17M annually is enough to make anyone with an interest in the team to notice.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The Good: We’ll miss out on the next Barry Zito
The Bad: We’ll miss out on the next Barry Bonds.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Given the frequency with which “Barry Zito contracts” and “Barry Bonds contracts” occur, I’m perfectly fine with missing out on both.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

by dregarx on Dec 6, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not as scared of long-term deals as people seem to be

Matt Holliday, FWIW, looks like he’s well on his way to being worth his contract.

He got 7 years and 120 million. Using a valuation of 5 million per win, as seems to be roughly the case, that means he needs to put up 24 wins over the course of the contract. This season he put up 6.9, which means he has to put up 17.1 WAR for the next six years, which means he only needs to average 2.9 WAR or so per season for the next six years, which should be easily achievable.

Good players get big contracts. They get them because a lot of the time they’re worth it. If you want the best players on your team, you’ll have to pay for some of them at some point. I wouldn’t take such a dogmatic stance against them if I were running a team, and I certainly don’t take one as a fan.

Obvious caveat: Werth is overpaid. Holliday, however, was not.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

My problem is that I am not separating in my mind the situation of the team from the general case.

I automatically tend away from the long-term deal because I unconsciously assume that the Zito and Rowand contracts are present.

I would avoid almost all long-term deals (the only exception being a player who will unexpectedly accept being underpaid) unless the team involved has at least 5 cost-controlled, really good players. I suppose that “5 players” qualification can equally apply to a team with 3 cost-controlled All-Stars or 8 cost-controlled solid everyday players. The Giants have that, so I would not be averse to such signings were Zito and Rowand not on the payroll.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

by dregarx on Dec 6, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The future big deals are coming

Tim Lincecum
Matt Cain
pitching

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by Rolfyboy on Dec 6, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Benefitz!

I had to go to employee orientation today, and in the bureaucratic morss dumped upon our wretched souls, this nugget stood out: a discount option called the Tennessee Dental Plan. Nothing too special about that, until you get to the paragraph about it being funded in part by Todd Helton.

Todd Helton is paying for my teeth. What the hell.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

The Tennessee Dental Plan would be a great name for hardcore band.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

*for a

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

does it cover more than 8 teeth?

by Bar None on Dec 6, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

/slaps you

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 7, 2010 4:44 AM PST up reply actions  

And “morss,” for the record, should read “morass.”

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense.

Trying to figure out if I have to co-pay or what my deductible is, etc… is like tying to predict Helton’s stats.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 6, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

semi related, I just received an email announcing my company’s “cancer protection plan.” I find it odd that they are now offering specific plans focused on certain diseases.

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Kruk: "World Champs."
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by j14 on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s better than not having a plan!

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This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

aka: TheGiants Way.

Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.

by bgunn on Dec 6, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Jokes on you

it’s actually just a small shield they send you in the mail.

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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

0_o

/grabs grant check (not Grant’s check, although he might check his check as well)

/searches fine print etched into engraving ornament

/“fully funded by Barry Zito”

MY GOD

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

/removes glasses

Do you realize what we’ve uncovered?

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The source of the poisoned women’s foundation garments, Holemes?

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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be nice to have the money to do something small but important like that.

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by Merope on Dec 6, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I had an ethical crisis when I found out. How can one hate a man who went out of his way to establish a discount program for people who need vision and dental care?

I still have no solid answers.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it’s a different Todd Helton.
…or maybe not… Todd Helton is from Knoxville and played his college ball for U of Ten.

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by Merope on Dec 6, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s definitely him. I’m surprised I didn’t know he was a Volunteer until today.

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by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know…I have never “hated” Helton…seems like a nice guy playing on the wrong team…I always respected high BA/OBP guys like Helton and Gwynn…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t figure out what this had to do with Armando Benitez

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 6, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I had the same reaction.

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by kdl on Dec 6, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Lisa needs braces.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 6, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Good for Todd

Becoming the richest and most famous athlete from that batch

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

There has been rumors since college that #16 pitches for your team.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Pfft. I should think it’s obvious.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of benefits

I’ve been at my new job for 5+ months now and was told at hiring that full benefits will be included once I make it past the 3-month probationary period. I’ve had my positive review after 2 months and none since but still have yet to hear anything about my benefits. Luckily, I don’t have to see a dentist or doctor anytime soon (crossing fingers) but this is still very wrong of my employer, no?

I am not even sure how to bring it up to my boss…

Hey, how was the weekend? Whatever, give me my benefits NOW!

/Win the inning
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by Scooter Ellis on Dec 6, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he/she forgot….

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Bingo. Do you have an HR manager?

An easy way to approach it is to ask “When is Open Enrollement for our insurance company?”

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by zuma420 on Dec 6, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, you should ask for a Summary Plan Description for each of the benefit Plans (including retirement, medical, vision, dental, life insurance, long-term disability, etc.). They are required by law to provide those immediately to newly eligible participants. You can then go on to ask about your eligibility date and enrollment forms. Maybe even mention it’s time for your annual physical exam and you would like to know if your doctor is in the company’s insurance network.

All that should get the conversation started. Good Luck.

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by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I sure hope that's the case

But I work closely with my manager who hired me and I was the only new hire this year, plus we only have 20 total employees. LOL @ me!

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by Scooter Ellis on Dec 6, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously ...

I started with a smaller (14) company when I first moved to CA, and had no problem asking my boss about company benefits. If your manager’s primary job is something other than benefits related, it’s very possible that they forgot about you because they have other important things to worry about than who gets benefits when. He/she will probably thank you for bringing it up, since there can be serious Federal law implications under ERISA if they discriminate against you and fail to get you enrolled for benefits on time.

Especially if you get sick or have an accident. That’s what the benefits are for.

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by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention if they are deducting for benefits but not paying premiums for them to the insurer (but I suspect the other employees would have noticed their claims getting rejected).

And Scooter, don’t be shy about this at all. You’re not asking for a handout, you’re asking for a benefit (presumably at the expense of more salary) you were promised. It’s no different than if your next paycheck was missing $500. You’d ask what happened because there seems to have been a mistake, and that’s what you’re doing here.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 6:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Go talk to your HR person. Yesterday.

Thing C

by markdash on Dec 6, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Giants trade for a player

and then sign him to a 6 year 120M dollar extension, does that count of “within the organization?”

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by jctGamer on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

(Say, David Wright)

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by jctGamer on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

No, since that argument only works for the Yankees.

Thing C

by markdash on Dec 6, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

why we move in here?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

I think it was oldjacket that said ‘I like tradin’ Sabes better than signin’ Sabes’ and I think that’s a pretty true statement. Sabean just seems to whiff a lot on FA guys. I wonder if the BRAIN TRUST has tried to reel him in a little when it comes to FA players?

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

So U mean Brain DOESN'T Trust

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by jctGamer on Dec 6, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Or if "Signin' Sabes" was really Magowan

The “let’s do something so the fans can see our efforts” seems a lot more Pete than Brian.

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Dec 6, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would “Signin’ Sabes” be Magowan?

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s referring to the Magowan signed Zito conspiracy theory.

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by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I figured, but do we also think he’s the one who signed/tried to sign Rowand, Soriano, Lee, or Pierre?

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The theory is that Magowan liked to sign a guy with strong name recognition to a longer term contract in the off-season as a marketing strategy. So season ticket holders would have someone to identify with when they were making their decision to re-up.
So it’s a maybe…

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 6, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Derek Jeter.

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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 6, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Were Magowan still calling the shots his free agency would terrify me.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 6, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I never went that far, ascribing ulterior motives regarding marketing and STHs. I just thought Magowan said YAY ZITO so hot such a good person inside here has my checkbook.

You’d think this wouldn’t happen, but it just happened again!

I think it might be Boras…

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by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, maybe, but surely he’d let Sabean choose which strong name to sign. I mean, there at least 3-4 big names hitting the FA market every year, there’s a lot to choose from.

by Cookyman on Dec 7, 2010 4:45 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be the wiser course. Since clearly the Zito negotiation and contract were nothing of the sort, I think it’s equally likely, if not more, that Magowan said, “I’ve always coveted Barry Zto and now that we can have him do whatever it takes to sign him, the way we did whateverr it took to sign Barry Bonds.”

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoa, you mean it’s not commonly known?

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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

As far as I can tell, the only evidence people point to is the fact the Magowan stepped down as managing partner a couple of years later. But there could be plenty of reasons for that, including one which I think – he was named in the Mitchell Report; part of the team’s effort to distance itself from Bonds and the steroids scandal).

by Cookyman on Dec 7, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

“Including one which I think is more likely”, that should be.

by Cookyman on Dec 7, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, I should be clearer in my teasing.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s really only ever been able to get good relief pitching on the market.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 6, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

OH, SO ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU’RE TALKING UP THIS OLDJACKET GUY HUH? READ MY BLOG PERHAPS?

by Dan from NM on Dec 6, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

OH HENRY

I wish I could capture the entire 2010 season in a bottle. It will never feel THIS good.

by housethatbondsbuilt on Dec 6, 2010 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

Have you seen the Norwegian "Let It Be" video?

I just saw it yesterday, and…OMG. Just OMG.

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by Murray, Present on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

"It probably would have been more practical to buy Finland"

…if I’d just taken the time to finish reading the &*()ing sentence, I wouldn’t have racked my brain trying to think of who this Finland guy was, what his first name was, and why I didn’t know a thing about him.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Man, I hate Steve Finland.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

/googles "Steve Finland"

/shrugs, smiles awkwardly, inserts some random comment about an obscure stat while hoping to fit in

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I love obscure stat!

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

/waits for counter stat of even more dubios obscurity

What are we, baseball hipsters?!

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

GRRRR

Can’t go crackin’ jokes if I can’t spell the big words.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't fret.

The San Francisco Giants won the 2010 World Series. That is officially my answer to everything.

by garbanzo24 on Dec 6, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Tom of Finland.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Tom of Myspace.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Zuckerberg had him killed?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT IF I CAME HERE FOR METH BUST NEWS?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

Dustin Ackley was busted?

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by jctGamer on Dec 6, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

SETTLE FOR FREE AGENT BUSTS, PAL

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

2013

I don’t think it’s an issue having one long term high salary contract on the roster.

Having two of them is an issue..

/shakes fist at Rowand and Zito
/hugs Rowand and Zito because we won the World Series

by DFARowand on Dec 6, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

Ah, the Zito years ... (fondly remembers)

Championships!

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by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

A bit humorous in light of your screen name

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t expect it during the season. He was definitely on his way out though.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Dec 6, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

HEY i just saw him at the Patriots game

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Impossible, he’s busy firing people.

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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 6, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of bad contracts

I did not know this about Bud Black:

I was covering the San Francisco Giants in 1990 when their GM, Al Rosen, sent the baseball world in a tizzy by giving Bud Black, essentially a .500 pitcher, a four-year, $10-million contract during the winter meetings. That was big-time money back then, and baseball executives came to refer to the day that deal came down as "Black Friday.‘’ Carl Barger, the Pirates’ president, said he felt physically ill when he heard the terms of the signing, and Rosen was excoriated by his peers.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

AJ Burnett and Carl Pavano laugh at you Bud Black

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Bud finally repaid the Giants this year!

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes he did,

But he should not have been so obvious about it, deep cover and all.

by Leftyretro on Dec 6, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

\Giants sign Carl Crawford to 8 year, $150M deal

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by deuce deuce on Dec 6, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

/Everyone laughs at Grant

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair thee well, Jayson

You remain my favorite non-Giant, and I’m glad you’re playing for my 2nd favorite NL team. I wish you and the Nats success, except against the Giants, but especially against the Phillies, who never appreciated you.

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

BSG content for Howie

I urge you to watch the “webisodes” with Gaeta and Sharon called “Face of the Enemy.” They are nonessential to the main plot, like Razor, but they’re much better, and provide some character motivation for what will happen with Gaeta. Also, the timeline of them is in between Season 4.0 and 4.5, so you can watch them without being spoiled.

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by Murray, Present on Dec 6, 2010 3:34 PM PST reply actions  

Ooooh, I forgot the webisodes existed.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

No…I just don’t think he’s important enough…

Maybe to first PA

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He gets OOOOO-ed

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 6, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Selig went to every World Series game this year...

…wondering why we booed replay when they haven’t even decided whether to greenlight it or not.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I am really liking the OOOOOO-BEACHBALL! idea.

Are there enough McCoven at a game to make it actually happen?

Finally a signature worth having:

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by fierrpawz on Dec 6, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think "BOOOO!" "REPLAY!" is better.

But I’m biased like that.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to try to start a “Juan I’m pretty disappointed that you signed with the Dodgers, but I understand your decision and I will always appreciate what you did for this team so I will not boo you; that being said I hope you find little to no success during your time with the Dodgers” chant. I think it has a nice ring to it.

by vick701 on Dec 7, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Not recommended while rosterbating.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

But it feels so good!

by WesHanson on Dec 7, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t it enhance the rosterbation experience?

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Werth is a danged good player, but he isn’t great

We may have different definitions of “great”, but if he isn’t, who is? As far as I can tell he’s as good as any OF in the majors not named Holliday.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

He’s average 5 WAR a season over the past 3 years. What more do you people want?

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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Talk to me when he’s 36 and year 4 into his 7 year contractors

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

No...

Sorry…misreading the first post…

but great? Probably not

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Hamilton? And he hasn’t been better than 10th among OF in WAR in the last 3 years according to fangraphs. I think it’s fair to say he’s “really good” and reserve great for players like Pujols, Lincecum, etc.

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Hamilton and Werth are the same with the bat, and are similar defensively too (both are on the border between CF and corner OF).

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

yes but Hamilton is 2 years younger and has more of a track record at that age. Werth didn’t put it all together until he was 29

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by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on what you consider Hamilton’s actual ability. 2010 and 2009 were completely different stories for him.

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Last year? Sure. When he’s putting up 120 OPS+ seasons? He’s very, very good.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 6, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I would define a great player as one who would be the best player on the majority of teams in baseball. So basically a top 15 player in baseball. Werth is good, but clearly not at that level.

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not completely sure I could name 15 players who I consider better than Werth. It’s not that he’s better than all but 14 players in the majors, it’s just that there are 10 or so who are clearly the best, and then it gets pretty hard to tell. Looking at the numbers, I think I’d say that the only ones who are clearly better are Pujols, Mauer, Utley, Hanley, Longoria, Holliday, Tulowitzky, Youkilis, Pedroia, Votto, and McCan. Maybe Adrian Gonzalez. That’s 12.

After that, it’s a mess – there at least 10-15 players who might be the 13th best, as far as I can tell. I’m willing to call them all great, but that’s just semantics.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Cargo, Hamilton, Crawford, Texeria, Heyward, etc…

I would not put Werth in the top tier of players…high end of tier 2…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Gonzalez had one terrible half year, one pretty good half year, and one great full year. I really don’t see how he’s clearly better than Werth – he might be, but he’s far from sure bet.

Hamilton is, like I said above, kind of identical both offensively and defensively.

Crawford and Werth both play good defense in corner OF, and Werth is obviously the better hitter. I think it’s a stretch to even say that Crwaford’s speed makes him as good as Werth, let alone better.

Teixeira is a very close one. Over the past three years he had a .285/.386/.533 line, which is better than Werth’s .279/.376/.513, but not by a ton, and Werth is more valuable defensively. Neither one is clearly better, which is my point.

Heyward will be better, probably pretty soon, but so far he hasn’t proven that he is.

Again, it’s not that Werth is clearly better than any of these (except Crawford), it’s just that the opposite isn’t clear either.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Zimmerman?

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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 5:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I meant pitchers as well. My definition of great is basically superstar, or near superstar.

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

His ADP is between 40-60, so I would say the populist consensus is there are about 50 better.

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by fierrpawz on Dec 6, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I would say I don’t really care about the populist consensus.

Also, does it say that? It says they think he’s the 50th best fantasy player, not actual player.

by Cookyman on Dec 7, 2010 5:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if we disagree about Werth or about “great”. Would you have a problem calling Hamilton, Choo, Ichiro, or Braun great? I would call them all great, but I don’t think any of them is better (or at least clearly better) than Werth (Braun, actually, is pretty clearly worse, and Ichiro probably is too).

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rank them

Hamilton, Werth, Choo, Ichiro, Braun

but that was harder than I expected it to be.

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Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit

by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If I had to rank them, that’s probably what I’d go with.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d put Braun before Ichiro because he’s both younger and has more power.

by seaborn on Dec 6, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

lol Cliff Lee's agent
“To me, that is what Jason Werth should have gotten,” Braunecker said. “He is a better player than Matt Holliday.”

no and no.

and ESPN should learn how to spell Werth’s name

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5891606

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

He’s totally Werth it. GEDDIT?

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by Murray, Present on Dec 6, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

HE went on to say

“coincidentally, my client is better than both Matt Holliday and Jason Werth, so he should get both their contracts combined.”

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

And the way you calculate that is Years-Year, Money+Money

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by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS
“It’s good to be Cliff Lee,” Lee’s agent Darek Braunecker said at the Swan and Dolphin Hotel as he shuttled off between meetings with teams.

He continued ’the sun is also pretty warm, and the ocean is wet."

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

well....

…in a ‘between the chalk lines’ purely baseball type of world..

looking at Game 5 of the World Series: it’s clearly better to be Tim Lincecum.

Or even: Edgar Renteria.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No qualification needed.

It’s better to be Tim Lincecum.

There, I said it.

Or do we need another round of Grant’s “Tim Lincecum is better than you” posts?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/f2/fullj.c99f4017479049f8a17a2ec8ce5d4e55/c99f4017479049f8a17a2ec8ce5d4e55-getty-104774363jl036_san_francisc.jpg

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

emotive Eugenio is emotive.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Or eve...

Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Freddy Sanchez

etc.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I would.

moar runz n stuff

by wanna Ishikawa? on Dec 6, 2010 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

Sure, he could have been a Giant.

And immediately retired the ‘JAY-SON WERTHLESS’ chant.

Selfish bastards.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 6, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

So, wait

The Brewers really got Shaun Marcum for Brett Lawrie, straight up?

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

they overpaid for Shaun Marcum if that’s what you mean. Brett Lawrie is their B. Belt. (I’m not saying he is Belt, but he is their best prospect).

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by jctGamer on Dec 6, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Marcum isn't bad is he?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Outperformed his peripherals.

by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Every time I see the word peripherals, I think of my 5 1/4" Duo Disk drive that went with my //e.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, or my Epson dot matrix printer

The one that would make fingernails on blackboard sound good.

by Leftyretro on Dec 6, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I always wondered why there wasn’t an industrial band that performed entirely using old dot-matrix machines.

by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Complete with modem-squeals and the grinding of a floppy drive?

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait, I take it back — I think I have that LP.

by wcw on Dec 7, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s bold of you to just toss that out there.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually 2012

Rowand’s last $12M will be off the books in Oct. 2012, and Sabes will only owe Zito no more than $23M by that time too. Sabes just won’t be able to resist. Isn’t Carlos Beltran a FA after the 2012 season?

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Dec 6, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

Ha ha

:(

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 6, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That should be $27M

Zito’s owed $20M in 2013 and $7M to buy out the 2014 option.

Also, Cain and Wilson will both be free agents after 2012, and Posey will be arb eligible. (I’ll assume that we already extended LIncecum prior to the season.)

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 6, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

2020

Troy Tulowitzki

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

2017

Werth

Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.

by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 6, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It'll be Jason Heyward.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

by dregarx on Dec 6, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

Ooof

He’ll be, what, a 26 year old free agent? 27? Assuming current FA rules stay the same in the next CBA.

Urf. He’ll get at least 10 years. And I’ll want the Giants to get him.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

If we’re able to stick it to the Braves, Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels, it will be a truly wonderful day to be a Giants fan.

Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.

by dregarx on Dec 6, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

See also: 11/2/2010.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe Bryce Harper will be a FA at 23 or 24

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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 5:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The kid’s like, 12.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 6, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure puts on KISS makeup like he is.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Got drafted at 17

Signed a ML Contract. 6 years of team control.

"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Service time starts accruing when you are in the majors. They can option him to the minors four (?) times, I believe. So he’ll probably be up at 20 or 21 and then be under team control for 6 years. The years he’s in the minors he’ll get the major league minimum and qualify for ML benefits.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah

My bad then. I imagine he’ll get a Sept call up in 2012. Get called up full time in mid 2013. He’d still be an extremely young FA though

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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

An ideal FA — one who is just coming into their prime years as a player (27-31, approximately). That’s the kind of guy you give an 8 year contract to.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 6, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Heyward will be a FA at 26

I wonder what the Yankees/Red Sox will pay for that.

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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh wow, I hadn’t thought about how young he’ll still be when he hits free agency. The Braves are going to work hard to ingratiate themselves and hope for a Chipper Jones style relationship, but Heyward could get paid. Possibly largest free agency contract ever?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

OT:

Which DVD is the BEST Giants World Series DVD?

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Dec 6, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

yeah i was wondering that too. i’ve read the discussions but is there a concusses

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 6, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully not.

Head injuries can be a problem.

by garbanzo24 on Dec 6, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Dec 6, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

/NFL says don’t worry about it.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The collectors edition

And the Magic inside

That will be the best combo

by BeatLA55 on Dec 6, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends what you’re looking for I guess. If you just want the games, there’s the collector’s set. If you want a recap, there’s the one disc WS DVD.

by Natto on Dec 6, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I really liked the 1-disc World Series DVD. Some people who were at the private screening of it and the “The Magic Inside” said it was more polished (better footage, more insightful, etc.).

I’m not going to post any spoilers, but I will just say that I thought it did a great job overall of preserving the joy and chaos of the WS.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Don’t tell us who won the World Series.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Have they played that yet this year?

FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try FAQ or FAQII and now... FAQIII

by Merope on Dec 6, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what the alternate endings in the DVD Extras are for.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

What about the sequence where she turns into a swan?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The guy who tried to kill her turned to stone.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

So

Is anyone else enjoying the sluggers leaving our Division rivals as much as I am?

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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

Like Gonzalez? i'd say YES

the season can’t start soon enough, were the prospects even that decent in the trade?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Him and Reynolds

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I might miss Reynolds.

If he hit below the Mendoza Line in the NL West, what’s he gonna put up in the AL East? A buck fifty?

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 6, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He had some bad luck this year.

He also had an injury which he intelligently told the press about, prompting every pitcher to work him up and in for most of the season. He could easily hit 50 HRs in the AL East, and post some insanely unbalanced slash line.

by garbanzo24 on Dec 6, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i like that people are saying sabez stole miggy now cuz of the riciculous contracts

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Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 6, 2010 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

also i `know comic sans is evil

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 6, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I think it works in this case.

by Natto on Dec 6, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm
JohnSheaHey John Shea

Brian Sabean said the #SFGiants payroll could reach $120 million next year. Barely over 100 this year.

Where’s the extra 20 coming from? Must be arb raises.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

uhhhh

Sabes working the SWOOP?

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

JohnSheaHey John Shea

120 mil is a product of built-in raises, Huff/Tejada contracts. Still, no room for Crawford.

Not sure that completely adds up, but OK.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

interesting

Unless they are planning an extension for Sanchez?

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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Take you pick which one.

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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

BBR projects $119M, and that includes Wellemeyer and Ray. So sounds about right, if we sign someone like Renteria.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

In 2011 guaranteed contracts

We’ve got:

Zito: $18.5M.
Lincecum: $13M.
Rowand: $12M.
Huff: $10M.
Cain: $7M.
Tejada: $6.5M.
Wilson: $6.5M.
Sanchez: $6M.
DeRosa: $6M.
Affeldt: $4.5M.
Burrell: $1M (plus incentives).

That’s $91M guaranteed.

In arbitration, Sanchez will get $5M ($2.1M last year), and Torres I guess…$3M? Lopez and Ramirez will make another ~$3M between them. That’s another $11M.

Then you’ve got the rest of the roster, which is another 10 players making $400K each, so that’s another $4M. Overall, that’s $106M, plus a few extra in incentives. Let’s call it $110.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ross

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That metaphor got away from me.

by Viliphied on Dec 6, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not even counting Casilla and Ross, who are also arb eligible. Casilla I would figure maybe around $1M. Ross made $4.5 last year so he’s gotta be due for a bump to at least 5.5-6 million, I would think.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 6, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

So yeah

If we sign Renteria, $120M sounds about right.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

where will that rank in the league

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 6, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Right now BBR projects us to be 4th in the NL, and 7th in the majors.

by Cookyman on Dec 6, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Timmy 2x Cain?

Well, 1.8. That’s not how I think of them.

# 24

by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

SWOOP!!!!!!! MIAMI OHIO MASCOT!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

bonds is coming back

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 6, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

BARRY BARRY BARRY

There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.

by Unitard on Dec 6, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Another WS title

CASH money in the bank.

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Dec 6, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Reynolds for two seemingly pedestrian relief picthers!?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 6, 2010 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

So... the NL West is just giving out free players?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

on the one hand, the Arizona bullpen REALLY sucks.

OTOH, LOL REYNOLDS NOT IN THE NL WEST ANYMORE.

Sad our pitchers will lose the 20 K’s he provided them.

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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Timmy haz a sad. He’ll have to work harder for the strike out title.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

/secretly relieved he didn’t call him “Shane Reynolds” like he usually does.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 6, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

SD and AZ waving the white flags

/not entirely joking

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

And the Dodgers are just a disaster

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Not so fast...

Dodgers have found some dollars between the seat cushions. They’ll still be in the market for a LF (possibly willingham), and they have the potential to be quite formidable, especially if guys like Kemp and Broxton play closer to their means.

by giantdonkey on Dec 6, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I swear i thought last season

people wanted the giants to make a run at Willingham, that seemed to have died down pretty fast. Loney, Kemp, Ethier, still afraid of those guys, without a doubt, who knows how they’ll come back for 2011

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like the Red Sox are in on Willingham, and having “lost out” (read: dodged bullet) on the Werth deal, and likely priced out by the Angels or NYY on the upcoming Crawford fiasco…..I hope they’ll outspend the Bums and go get him..

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Rumor has the Nationals want too much. I see Ned biting on that (and I’m okay with it if they give up too much yet again) before Epstein.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

why, oh why, would the Nats trade Willingham? he’s under team control for3 more years IIRC, and is a very good hitting 3B.

why the hell would you do that after saying how “serious” you are about winning?

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure he only has one more year of arbitration eligibility left after next season.

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by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

eh, 2 years, 3 years… still enough time to get an extension done, not to mention that he’ll still be cheaper in arb than a FA 3B would be

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

and he’s not a 3b. Thats zimmerman

"I ain't havin it!"

by GloomyGoose on Dec 7, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you’re thinking of Zimmerman, who the Nationals are not trying to trade. Willingham has been on the block for a while. With Harper expected to arrive after another year or so and the Werth signing, there isn’t much room for Willingham.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I've heard Hernandez is supposed to be pretty good

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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 5:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You heard right. Mickolio has good stuff too. Towers knows how to essemble a pen and that’s what scares me, being that AZ’s bullpen was god awful last year. They’ll contend for the NL West this year with an improved pen.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 7, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm getting to dislike the term

“wrong side of” as much as “no-brainer”. I thought the the “wrong side of thirty” was 36!
And as for “no-brainer” I think you would at least have a functioning stem to at least get voted into office.Or you could be an extra in AMC’s “The Walking dead”.

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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

no brainer:

exhibit a. Danny Bonaduce

exhibit b. his 23 year younger manager who, gulp, married him

exhibits c & d. THOSE JERSEYS. seriously, my eyes are bleeding.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

needs to be bedazzled

Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010

by j14 on Dec 6, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Viewing thirty as a dividing line, you’re either on the younger side of it or the older side of it, the latter being the “wrong side”.
“No-brainer” refers to a decision that requires virtually no thought because the right choice is clear.
“Killjoy” is a dreary fellow who pops up where he’s not wanted, answers questions that weren’t asked, and doesn’t even have an amusing image to accompany his thoughts.

Hi.

by waelwulf on Dec 6, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

RIP Don Meredith. Turn out the lights. The party’s over.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

That was fun and awesome.

We just gave away a new generation iPod Nano and a Nintendo DSi to two kids. I think we just got two fans for life.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

is this work related?

or did you just decide to give out free electronics

by panda revival on Dec 6, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah work related.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Rowand 4 Ellsbury!
Felix Doubront, Jed Lowrie, and Jacoby Ellsbury’s names were all discussed in the Boston/San Diego trade talks, says John Tomase of the Boston Herald. Ellsbury was the only one that drew much interest from the Padres, but they decided against him since Ellsbury’s forthcoming arbitration raise would make him too expensive and a trade candidate himself in the near future.

by DFARowand on Dec 6, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

Rowand 4 a Culture Club album

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Rowand 4 Karma Chameleon

Kids in the back seat cause accidents. Accidents in the back seat cause kids.

by ilovesushi on Dec 6, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno, kinda streaky

he comes and goes.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Therein lies the fair trade.

A lateral move, perhaps? Do you really want to hurt me?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If we trade Rowand, you’re gonna have to change your handle for the third straight year.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I would enjoy that

Changing me handle is like a fresh start every spring training

Best Shape of my Life!

by DFARowand on Dec 6, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

you sound like popeye

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 6, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

What were the previous two?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If that were true I would be SO excited about Aaron this season.

It’s bound to work any minute, right?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

OT (light-hearted compared to SFGuy's)

So I’ve lived in the Bay Area, a two-team market, for 18 years, and only now had my first off-field encounter with a ballplayer — and he’s retired (maybe). The greatest leadoff hitter ever, looking for a checkout line at the Safeway on Broadway and Pleasant Valley in Oakland.

by non sequitur on Dec 6, 2010 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

omg you met marvin benard?!?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Wait — I thought it was F.P. Santangelo.

by non sequitur on Dec 6, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He might have laced them up... whatever

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Rickey says

Rickey says Rickey needs to stock up on Rickey’s groceries.

San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit

by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

In fact, I think that’s what he was thinking.

by non sequitur on Dec 6, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Peter Magowan.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Alex Smith.. Seriously go fuck yourself 49ers
Quarterback Alex Smith is back in the 49ers’ picture.

Smith, who sustained a separated non-throwing shoulder on Oct. 24 against the Carolina Panthers, might return to the starting lineup Sunday when the 49ers hope to keep their faint playoff hopes alive against the Seattle Seahawks.

Coach Mike Singletary announced Monday that he has yet to decide whom to start at quarterback. Troy Smith has started the past five games for the 49ers, who are 3-2 over that span. Singletary has said he considers the quarterback position as a spot to be evaluated on a week-to-week basis.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/12/06/10/Alex-Smith-might-return-to-49ers-startin/landing_niners.html?blockID=367535&feedID=5936

by DFARowand on Dec 6, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

Do you trust them to draft a good one?

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by Merope on Dec 6, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope… but i’d be fine with Colin Kaepernick… projecting to be a 3rd rounder or so… i mean, let’s be honest, Luck is gone with the 1st pick

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

As a Wolf Pack fan I hope Kap has better fortune than to be drafted by that orginization.

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Dec 6, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

OUCH!!!!!!! If they changed up the organization by coaches too

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

really?

Niners aren’t the most dominating franchise right now, but I think they at least try to win.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

sometimes even in spite of ownership/management.

Maybe it’s just the San Francisco way of things…

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

GFY is kind of strong. They didn’t just rob an old lady or steal candy from a kid. They deserve our pity not our vitriol.

# 24

by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think Kap has the arm for the NFL, he dominates the WAC though.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

which is easy to dominate, the WAC aint shit

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Im sure he would have been a great QB in any conference outside of the SEC

Fresno State, the 4th place WAC team, beat the 4th place Big 10 team, Illinois. The bottom half of the WAC is atrocious though.

by sleeknerve on Dec 6, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate Davis, WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!?!?!

to be honest, they just need to draft a freakin QB and start over, they need to get Harbaugh

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

So fitting that Aaron Rodger torched the Niners on Sunday…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

whatever... they deserved it

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s pretty much no reason to go back to Alex Smith at this point.

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm done with the season, so who cares

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m as big of an Alex Smith apologist as you’ll ever find…but, come on. There’s no reason. He is not the starting quarterback next year, so why switch now?

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 6, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I like my reality, where I don’t pay attention to football anymore, and some young upstart named Steve Young is waiting the in wings to take over for Joe Montana when he decides to retire. And Jerry Rice will play forever.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 6, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Me three.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Four.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve got a new chant to say to my TV every Sunday,
“Lose for Luck! (and Gruden)”
Repeat.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 6, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Luck is not going to SF…my guess will be Carolina…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

To be followed by buffalo and the Bengals

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

True…but Buffalo and Bengals…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

although:

After just three NFL starts and being pulled in week 5, Clausen was benched after completing 47 percent of his passes with one touchdown and three interceptions. Clausen also fumbled seven times, losing two, and had a 52.2 passer rating.

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

also: rookie

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

But Fitzpatrick and Palmer!

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 6, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Palmer hasn’t been the same since that dude fell on his leg back in ’06.

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by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Panthers can get Luck, they will.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, if they were so happy with Clausen to begin with, they never would have drafted Pike. It was a “for lack of a better option” pick, and Luck represents a significantly better option.

The only team I think is a sure thing NOT to draft Luck with the first pick should it fall to them is Detroit. I can easily see every other team in striking distance taking him. Even the ’Boys.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, there's no way in hell the niners get LUCK

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

GO HARBAUGH!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Heck no…it’s may be my anti-Stanfurd bias but I need to see Harbaugh without Luck to judge his coaching abilities…

Jim Harbaugh’s coaching career at Stanford
2007: 4-8
2008: 5-7
2009: 8-5 (Luck’s first year)
2010: 11-1

He was also the QB coach for the Raiders in 2003…not so fantastic

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I much rather have a proven NFL coordinator or someone like Gruden or Cowher

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanford is 11-1 and playing in a BCS bowl. Harbaugh was a QB in the NFL for a long time. His dad was a coach. His brother is a successful NFL coach.

I’m not saying he’s a no brainer but he’s at least an intriguing option and a “heck no” response is obvious bias.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 6, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes…11-1 is awesome but again in college…you can go very far with a great QB like Luck…I want to see him coach a few more years to see it was him or Luck that helped Stanford go 11-1…

Cal went 10-2 with Rodgers and have been inconsistent ever since then because of the erratic play of their QB…Tedford is still same coach…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the “heck no” I was responding to. I think it’s reasonable to want him to do more but it wouldn’t be a stretch to hire him now. I would have been fine with the niners hiring Tedford but really I want Harbaugh and Tedford to stay where they are.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 6, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay…duly noted…

What about a milder no…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

fair. Now if you just take back what you said about Palo Alto being worse than Riverside I will be satisfied :)

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 6, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

he also coached 1 AA USD to atleast an undefeated season or a few close to it when i was there

by posey yaknowsy on Dec 6, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This is assuming he'll go to the NFL Draft

The uncertainty of the 2011 season may keep him at Stanford.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

There you go
Alex Smith is again 49ers starting QB. Coach Mike Singletary met with his staff in San Fran when the decision was made. Troy Smith backs up

http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/11961833770455040

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

lol them

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 6, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Just, whatever, just win

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t bring myself to care about the NFL at all.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 6, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

This year, at least.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 6, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

i've already given up, whatever... 49er faithful... it's tough to stay faithful

when the organization doesnt give two shits about the fans

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Boy, when Denise won the franchise from her bro …

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

this franchise was SCREWED...

and Jed’s nephew is one of my good friends… whatever

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

winning more games this season does nothing for the franchise, while playing troy smith at least gives us a better idea if he can be a starting caliber player.

why the fuck does this argument sound so familiar?

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re suggesting that the 49ers will win the World Series?

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even care anymore, the season was fucked after the loss to the Panthers, so i dont even care. Luck’s not even a possibility, so whatever

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hooray for NFL Sunday Ticket so I could avoid dreck like the 49ers and Raiders.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not hard to avoid the raiders if you live in the blackout zone.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 6, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There are still on the road for 8 games.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm gonna go be a lions fan

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL DISASTER

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 6, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Good lord.

Well, at least I don’t have to watch the game Sunday. I had other things to do, anyway.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

like cue up that World Series DVD?

Or do I need to give you B5 spoilers here?

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

ridiculous

The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS

by zuma420 on Dec 6, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

YES!

glad to see we’re fully committing to the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. I only hope its not too late.

Thing A

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by sam23 on Dec 6, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Altered Beast FTW!

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

why is the brian wilson fitted womens tee only sold in xxl online?

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 6, 2010 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

stoopit sharks

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by Merope on Dec 6, 2010 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

Stoopid all bay area sports teams not named the Giants…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Rowand for Cust.

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 6, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

Cust is a FA

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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 5:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

and a poop.

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)

by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

O/T

I am reading a case called Uribe v. Howie.

Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.

by kdl on Dec 6, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

what about Howie vs. Howie

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s Saturday night.

by Natto on Dec 6, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

i'll plan for it, thanks for the reminder

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about missing it

I’m sure it will be well documented.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 6, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Good, i’ll look for a transcript coming up at the end of the week

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

what about Howie on Howie

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

/ponders this

The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!

by TheLetter2 on Dec 6, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

not as hot as you’d think

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a LOT of failbeard.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to think of it as one full beard.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

In that case you'd neeed at least four of you,

a la “Multiplicity” with Michael Keaton.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 6, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

“You know how when you make a copy of a copy…?”

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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

"I like pizza, Steve..."

“….I LLLLLLLIKE IT!”

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Dec 7, 2010 6:22 AM PST up reply actions  

must be difficult to concentrate on that

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by Merope on Dec 6, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Howie should read this fan post:

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. Too lazy to re-do

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.

by kdl on Dec 6, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait. Am I missing a joke?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m always missing jokes here.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 6, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re not missing much.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 6, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Either way, he’s probably too busy with school

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So that’s why he won’t be on campus tomorrow…

I'm still in the old thread.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!

by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 6, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I’ll be at Laurel Books on McCarthur from 7:00 – 9:00 for a class reading. Anybody who wants can come see me read for four-ish minutes in between a bunch of other people.

All English students should have gotten an e-mail.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't really need to see proof

I believe that you can read.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 6, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

At least for a little while. After the four minute mark, it gets dicey.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything that takes longer than four minutes to read isn’t worth reading anyway.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 7, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

eh

I met you once. I think that’s enough.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The People vs. Howie

Prosecutor: We’re going to prove Howie did it
Defense: You can’t prove how he did it, let alone Howie did it

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Dec 6, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not that the Giants can’t afford them, per se, it’s just not a practical way of building a team the Giants way.

Its funny because f*** the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Dec 6, 2010 5:35 PM PST reply actions  

Looking back
The Twins offered Tsuyoshi Nishioka a multiyear deal, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse. One source tells Price that the Twins are working to sign the infielder to a two or three-year deal worth $3-4MM per season and a second source says the Twins have offered a three-year deal worth $9-10MM in total. Jon Heyman of SI.com reported earlier today that Nishioka was looking for a three-year deal.

Personally, I kinda of wish the Giants got in on Nishioka..with a $5.3 million posting fee and a 3 years at 9-10 million…it’s still cheaper than either Tejada or Uribe…

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

I know it's revisionist history, but if that's the cost then I'd be down

Try him at SS this year and if he can’t make it he’s a utility infielder

"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It sounds good now...

But I would wait to see him in the field. I would guess our scouts took a look at him and figured he wouldn’t really be a good shortstop in the MLB. Unless he turns into a defensive wiz I’ll go ahead and trust ’em.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of long contracts

Wow.

I continue to hear buzz Rockies offered 7-to-10-year deal to Carlos Gonzalez, even if it was informal. But Boras factor hangs over any deal

http://twitter.com/TroyRenck/status/11803267461808128

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 6, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

7-10 years???? OH MY… how long was Tulo’s contract?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm joking

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get it…;)

by calbearjd on Dec 6, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So I was looking up Tulow on Baseball Reference

I was thinking that maybe that contract wasn’t THAT bad. After all, 10 years from now, he will be 35, which is younger than our current starting SS. Plus, they could move him to 3B by that time. Then I looked up similar players on BBR. Of the top 10, I was very familiar with Derek Jeter and Nomar Garciaparra, Ernie Banks, Joe Torre, Yogi Berra, and Gary Carter were also in there. Not bad company. Just looking at the shortstops in that group, except for Cap’n Jeets (notably), they all really plummeted in WAR around age 30. These were all perennial MVP candidates and Hall of Famers, but by age 35, they had <1 and even negative WAR.

Just for kicks, I looked up our Miggy, and he exhibited the same trend, exacerbated I’m sure by the ‘roid withdrawal. It’s a bit odd that Jeter has defied the trend, but he’s also been inconsistent.

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Dec 6, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

/tears groin muscle

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

We get to laugh at the Yankees. The number of productive SS over the age of 36 is pretty much 0.

by speckops on Dec 6, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Aha! But what about the productivity over 40? VIZQUEL’D!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 6:59 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: have you lol'd about this yet?


Just watched the trailer yesterday

"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper

by O R They? on Dec 6, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

A movie with Mel Gibson... really?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly...

I would pay money to watch Mel Gibson put his hand up Jodie Foster…

by iSometimesDisagreeWithBochy on Dec 7, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

From the Wiki:

“The Beaver follows a depressed CEO of a toy company (Gibson) who dons a beaver handpuppet to better communicate with his wife (Foster) and his two sons…”

Oh, dear.

by waelwulf on Dec 6, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

5 GOLDEN GLOBES

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Read this as GOLDEN GLOVES

/Jeter’d

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 6, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Pro Tip: Don’t Google beaver at work.

by Dan from NM on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

(I do not actually endorse this)

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It must be really frustrating

to be a biologist whose specialty is the genus Castor.

“What do you do?”

“I study beavers…no, not like that!”

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 7, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you look at that.
Vonnegut was quite the artist.

by waelwulf on Dec 6, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Breakfast of Champions is a great book and with good pictures too

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 6, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

True story:

There is a sporting goods store here on the east coast called “DIck’s Sporting Goods”. One day I decided while at work I will see if they have the camping gear I needed the following weekend. Guess what I typed into the address bar.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

“Dick’s” AND “Pitching a tent”

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to www.dicks.com, the page was blocked and then I got an email alert warning me.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t hyperlink that!

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I was thinking you googled it.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

It was one of those absent minded things, where you live in your on little bubble and think things know what you are talking about.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

You know, both with that store and the brand of work-clothing, I’d think they’d have found new names by now. Partially because of the exact problem you mention.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see what’s weird about it. I love wearing Dicks.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

OT - MLB Network Winter Meetings coverage

I appreciate it and all, but if they insist on broadcasting in HD and these guys are going to run around the hotel from dawn til dusk chasing rumors…..they need to institute a 2pm shaving policy.

If not, I’ll just continue imagining that they are all on Hunter S. Thompson-esque benders.

pass the coke and the ether!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 6:53 PM PST reply actions  

LOL!

/throws fist full of glitter in the air!

♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥

by GiantsBabe on Dec 6, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean is sober.

He doesn’t see any of the bats.

by kaliber on Dec 7, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

Any opinions on Pat Gillick being selected to the Hall of Fame?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

He's a fine choice

but unfortunately, it’s more about who didn’t make it than who did

"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2010 San Francisco Giants won the World Series.

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)

by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

I’ll believe it when I see it!

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Post that again

It’ll look just as good the 100th time, too.

# 24

by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

California's legal battle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DakcxsncHfs

"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)

by iloveddickdietz on Dec 6, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Steinbrenner didn't make the HOF

Thoughts?

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Thank god.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Disappointing?

Disappointing that they neglected to elect an owner who was suspended not once but twice by MLB?
And let’s not forget that he was a convicted felon – until Ronny Reagan pardoned him in 1989.

Is he a HOFamer? Maybe.

First ballot? HELL no.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't really understand what the criteria for the hall of fame are

but a federal conviction and a temporary ban for trying to ruin a player are probably good enough to keep you out.

Short memories are short. Anyway given the kowtowing when he passed I’m sure he’ll get in there.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Having lived in NY for 11 years

It’s funny how they never mention that stuff. Not even Francesa and Russo.

# 24

by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Rumor: Prince for Loney and Broxton

Whoa. As Reynolds says, that actually makes sense

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Dec 6, 2010 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

If I were the Brewers, I wouldn’t go for that. Although Broxton is a decent bounceback candidate (Loney’s really just a throw-in, he’s practically regressing to replacement-level), relievers who don’t pitch that much in the entire year really aren’t worth a premier 1st baseman like Fielder.

by seaborn on Dec 6, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Cunning Ned

Seeking the man whose antics still enrage many Giants. /conspiracy theory

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The Brewers are idiots

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait

Wasn’t Prince the guy who tried to get into the Dodgers clubhouse?

by BeatLA55 on Dec 6, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And now he will!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He’ll be disappointed to find that Mota isn’t there anymore.

by Natto on Dec 7, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get why the Brewers would do that. I feel like two picks would be a better investment for them.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 6, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Not sure why Ned is asking for so much for Loney

"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Dec 6, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers couldn’t afford to re-sign him though, right? Still not a bad deal for them though if they can’t. Two draft picks at least.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

So I got my Torture to Rapture book from the Chronicle today.

Its pretty awesome, but not as great as the 2002 book the Chronicle published.

by BeatLA55 on Dec 6, 2010 7:45 PM PST reply actions  

So did I

I saw a picture of opening day in there and thought “Man, none of us in that ball park realizes what will happen in 7 months.”

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

mmm pizza

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

So it that what kids are calling that these days.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Pizza? Yes.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 6, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

I just came from the future.

It was January of this year, what is the picture of?

Did somebody get a no hitter?

by BeatLA55 on Dec 6, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Huff pitched it

Its funny because f*** the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Dec 6, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the pennant, not the World Series, no? I thought Audrey threw his cap at Wilson after the final out of the World Series.

by non sequitur on Dec 7, 2010 5:36 AM PST up reply actions  

HES BAACK

Wilson video channel.

http://vyou.com/BrianWilson

He’s so weird.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Sound won't work for me!

/pouts

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s just a video loop though.

Either that or he’s very very quick

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Click the video names on the side

Q: Favourite Place in SF not named AT&T
A: “That’s simple, it’s Alcatraz, and next year I’ll be renting a room and swimming to the park daily.”

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

dude is a trip!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet, thanks!

Heh, this could be fun. Think of questions everyone!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

holy shit

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Sanchez, what in the fuck are you doing

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck him

Tom Brady is the man! (Bay Area Ties)

by DFARowand on Dec 6, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I only realized this week how much the Jets have been FEASTING on terrible competition. They’ve beaten nothing but terrible teams since week 2.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And barely beating them.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

OT - Mark Reynolds question on twitter

fivethirtyeight
Over-under on Mark Reynolds strikeouts against AL East pitching? 244?

I say that Reynolds AND the NL West pitchers will see their K totals regress, maybe.
Sure the dude is a K-machine, but you have to tip the cap to the kids striking him out, no??

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

do you realize we're discussing Mark Reynolds?

;-)
yeah, no change at all for the pitchers – but I don’t see him falling off a cliff just because he’s facing the vaunted AL East pitching staff…

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I would guess a 8-10 K dropoff for Timmy

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Under

He’s a lot more likely to not play the entire season than be that awful.

by garbanzo24 on Dec 6, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#rangers waiting on cliff lee before moving on other big free agents. lee market heating up tonite.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

Gah, someone just sign Lee and get it over with please. The posturing is getting boring.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

At least the Jeter talk is over, even MLB Network (who is hell more fair than ESPN), talked about him daily.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugliest Starting Pitcher currently in the majors?
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#dodgers in talks to return revitalized padilla back to rotation

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

MLBTR:
The Pirates agreed to sign Kevin Correia to a two-year, $8MM deal, according to ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick (on Twitter).

"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat

by deuce deuce on Dec 6, 2010 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

Yay!

I can root for Correia again!

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 6, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That article is heartbreaking…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

8 MILLION!!!! WAY TO GO CORREIA!!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay!

Best of luck to him. I’ll be cheering!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Disappointing

I expected Toronto.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m rooting for the Comrade.

by non sequitur on Dec 7, 2010 5:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Came across something interesting about Andres in this years THT Annual: Of players who performed the best when LI was above 4.0, Andres ranks 5th with a WPA of 1.25 in 12 plate appearances,

Who’s 1st you ask? None other than our buddy, Brooks. Brooks Conrad. in 8 plays, he had 1.62 WPA in those situations. BROOKS CONRAD IS CLUTCH!!!

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2010 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

Walk off grand slams probably help WPA a little

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 6, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. He had 3 HR’s in these 8 plays. Three!

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I was trying to find the Conrad .gif and I came across this smug philly article
According to team sources, NL Division Series MVP Brooks Conrad will not be available for the Giants in their NL Championship Series matchup against the Phillies.

Conrad, who helped the Giants advance to their first NLCS since 2002 with four key errors in three NLDS starts, will likely also miss the World Series, should the Giants advance.

"We’re trying to stay upbeat, but this sucks," said one unnamed Giants source. "You have to bring your ‘A’ game against the Phillies and Brooks was a key guy for us. It’s going to force us to hit our way on base and we’re not really built for that."

The Giants pitching staff also took a hit on Tuesday with the announcement that they will be unable to pitch to the weak-hitting Braves lineup for the remainder of the postseason

http://www.phillygameday.com/2010/10/sources-giants-will-be-without-brooks-conrad-for-nlcs/

by DFARowand on Dec 6, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

And the comment thread is priceless!

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Dec 6, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

so classic

San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit

by free f.p. #14 on Dec 6, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

“William” sure made himself look good there…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 6, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Turns out he was right, just for the wrong reason.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i read a few other things that guy had written… talk about a BITTER Phillies fan.

holy crap.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like a perfectly standard Phillies fan to me.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

the people at The Good Phight were good to us, i actually really like that blog next to Lookout Landing.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Memories

Pat Burrell’s first Giant HR: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=8915991

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 9:59 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, and

Pat’s only 15 away from 300 career HRs, which would be cool to see.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

yep, he’s probably going to get his 300th HR and his 1900th RBI this year

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

1000th homerun!?! That’d be some kind of record, wouldn’t it?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

/rec’d

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

/detailed fangraph chart disputing comment

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 7:02 AM PST up reply actions  

STEALING MY SCHTICK ARE YOU

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/10/19/1761832/post-game-thread-man-wasnt-that-something#49781086

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

/joke in questionable taste about jct’s ‘schtick’

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

IS THIS AN AZN JOKE

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

IVE BEEN FOOLING AROUND ALL WEEKEND AND BOY IS MY SHTICK TIRED

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Ostensibly bland comment

about tired schtick being that way at beginning of weekend too.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 7, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get it.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants win the 2010 World Series

bq.p(.Proving they are the best team in baseball by beating Roy Halladay, Cole Hamels, and Roy Oswalt. Did you hear, Cody Ross hit two home runs in Game 1 off Doc? That was sweet. Now the Giants and Phillies have won an equal number of World Series in the past three years. Philadelphia must be so proud to be spoken of in the same breath as the Giants. Sure hope you all enjoyed your time off to reorganize your garage during the World Series, certainly no need to watch the drubbing we put on the Texas Strangers.bq.p).

This is my post on Philadelphia Craiglist Sports Forum. Just making sure that they are in touch with their feelings this winter. I hope they respond. If you feel like taking a two second break from McC, please chime in!

# 24

by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 PM PST reply actions  

OT:

Does anyone work or have ever worked at Best Buy?

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 6, 2010 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

How is it?

Would you recommend working there? Im thinking about applying to an open position there

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 7, 2010 1:09 AM PST up reply actions  

The horridness of a retail type job can be greatly influenced by the stores management. Some will treat employees like family and other will treat them like serfs.

FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try FAQ or FAQII and now... FAQIII

by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 1:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It's alright.

I worked in the media department, which covers DVDs, CDs, and video games. I restocked shelves and helped out customers. It generally consists of periods of nothing with the occasional stupid customer. I worked on Black Friday the year the Wii came out. That sucked.

by Natto on Dec 7, 2010 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Best employee discount

Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!

by Azmanz on Dec 7, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Grant's going soft

the last thread would have been more effective if he hadn’t given it away that it wasn’t really Matt Cain in the freaking blurb.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 6, 2010 11:21 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe his lawyers suggested he try to avoid the wrongful death lawsuits.

FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try FAQ or FAQII and now... FAQIII

by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 1:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe his lawyers suggested he try to avoid the wrongful death suits.

Worst Harry Potter garment ever.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It's moments like those

where you wonder what would happen if the Hatchery decided to spawn more Overlords.
/SC2’d

Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.

by L-Nova on Dec 7, 2010 1:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Still got bitched out by a bunch of people, too.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 7, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

ARE YOU CALLING ME A BITCH?!??!

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I was a little disappointed to find the link wasn’t to Rick Astley — you know, just for old time’s sake.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!

by Roger on Dec 7, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Happens to all

Go home, ‘ponine, go home, you’re in the way

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh wow

Jim Tracy collapsed at the winter meetings.

Hope everything is ok with him.

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 7, 2010 2:08 AM PST reply actions  

resting comfortably at a local hospital, I think he’ll be ok.

by all accounts a good guy in the business.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Tracy would phrase it
Am I a good guy? Probably. Am I in the business? Yes, I am. Will I be ok? I think so.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL & wrecked

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

OT - Hyperbole Much?!?

@SI_JonHeyman:

While nats are said NOT to be in on cliff lee now, can’t rule out 7 years from someone else. best post season pitcher since gibson.

Really, best since Gibson?!

What the fuck?!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

everyone seems to have forgotten the world series happened…

by haroldansivakumar on Dec 7, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Two starts, one of which was pretty damn good, don’t really change anything about how good Cliff Lee is.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 7, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

true.

but he ain’t Bob freaking Gibson.
I’m not even sure he can claim to be Curt Schilling (11-2 2.23 postseason)

It’s just such a ridiculous statement coming from Heyman who while cashing checks from Sports Illustrated for journalism, is obviously spending this week shilling for agents.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Uncritically serving as a mouthpiece for someone with an agenda?

Clearly, Heyman aspires to be a political journalist.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 7, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I am sure SI is fine with it if it means that Heyman gets the scoop on one of them.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL at random 5 game stretches

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

But JETER!

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm Bob Gibson right now....

I am visualizing a 94 mph heater right in the ribs of JonHeyman..

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee is rapidly becoming the most overrated pitcher in baseball, if he wasn’t already. Dear god…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

meh. I don’t know about that. He’s pretty damn good. Not exactly overrated.

There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.

by Unitard on Dec 7, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

meh. i’m just getting sick of hearing about him really…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoa! Who did he text pics to?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Brett Favre

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 7, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

you got that right

There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.

by Unitard on Dec 7, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

At the sound of the tone, Matt Cain’s Post Season ERA will still be 0.00.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but every team he faced was mired in a horrible offensive slump.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess

Jon Heyman is just a stenographer for Cliff Lee’s agent, not an actual reporter…

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Did Debbie Gibson throw overhanded or underhanded?

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain > Lee. 0.00 ERA.

LOL @ Lee beaten twice by the Giants lineup. Oh wait, we aren’t the Yankees or Phillies so nobody noticed. OMGZ LEE IS TEH BEST!

by Hobbes2d on Dec 7, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

’sokay. The team said they like being the underdogs. More of the same please.

FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try FAQ or FAQII and now... FAQIII

by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Mel Gibson wasn't very good. He kept showing up drunk to pitch

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, so painful to see this.

I still have yet to see Cliff Lee’s WS ring.

Everyone goes nuts because he shuts down the Yanks. What they fail to realize is that NY plays right into his hands. They are the most patient team in the game. Normally that is a really good thing, but against a control phenom like Lee, it isn’t. Once he has them 0-2 they are done. Nobody was getting Lee with 2 strikes in the post season. The Giants are notoriously unpatient, although much better now. I think it actually helped them against Lee. They didn’t wait to get two strikes on them.

I guess Timmy and the Giants never happened.

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Dec 7, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

OT - Jamie McCourt owns half the Dodgers

Frank’s attorney’s didn’t write up a very good marital property agreement.

So, another year or three of complete dysfunction in Smog Town??

Well, ok…only if they insist

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

LOL Dodgers

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

/rec'd

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

How is this not green?!

Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.

by bgunn on Dec 7, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

B/c you have a black and white screen

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

What are the contract implications if McCourt is forced to file bankruptcy? I know that the Rangers did it, but I’m not familiar with the facts of the case.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

They go to the World Series and lose to the Royals.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m hoping it resolves in a ‘Dodgers become more laughable than the Clippers’ sort of way. Now if only the Lakers would play along….

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Sell the team I think. Tie them up for a couple years. As long as they keep Agent Ned we’re good.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man shit got real

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZQdydWtGis

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

wow…this is like that asian woman vs black woman on SF muni video. . .

There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.

by Unitard on Dec 7, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude should have told her to GTFO about 10 seconds into it.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

This reminds me of high school. So embarrassing to have women fight over you like that.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, right?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

woman fighting is a turnoff...

even if its organized and sanctioned. Mud wrestling doesn’t even do it for me. Scripted Diva matches in professional wrestling on the other hand….

by IRONxMIKE on Dec 7, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly.

First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.

Dodgers fans eat their young.

by redhornet78 on Dec 7, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

i just laughed for a good 3 minutes

by posey yaknowsy on Dec 7, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I love this so much.

/throws fist full of glitter in the air!

♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥

by GiantsBabe on Dec 7, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrecked

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Focused Matt Cain is focused. His hair? Not so much.

I can't fight this feeling anymore!

by ResDog on Dec 7, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

OT:

LOL ALBERT HAYNESWORTH, LOL REDSKINS

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

OT: Sylvester Stallone was enshrined int he Boxing Hall of Fame

Along side Mike Tyson.

Seriously.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

The Greatest Moment in American Sports history is not the miracle on ice

It is when Rocky Balboa knocked out Ivan Drago in the 15th round.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

HEARTS ON FIRE!

STRONG DESIRE!

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

/climbs 45,000-foot mountain without climbing gear

DRAGOOOOOOOO!!!
DRAGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
DDDDRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

by non sequitur on Dec 7, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

If I can change….

I can't fight this feeling anymore!

by ResDog on Dec 7, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

/invites David Hasselhoff to sing on the Berlin Wall

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You know the offseason's been going on too long

I woke up this morning convinced that the Giants had signed Jeff Francouer. I was mad.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 7, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

But were you also mad?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm.. Any guesses?
Lee has at least one seven-year offer for $20-25MM – not from the Nationals – tweets Heyman.

My guess is Houston..

by DFARowand on Dec 7, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

So much for accurate reporting. That’s a 35 million dollar range he just quoted. Seeing that Heyman is a puppet for some agents I going to assume that this tweet while true is an exaggeration. I am guessing the offer is really 21-23 million. At that range I can see the Yankees, Rangers and Cubs making that offer.

I am tempted to say Phillies, but one good thing about RAJ is that he is reluctant to give more than 3 or 4 years to pitchers.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I can verify from my sources that Cliff Lee has at least one team considering a 1 to 7 year offer ranging from $400,000 to $25M annually.

by kingofthacove on Dec 7, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I kinda assume Lee’s agents are putting out all the disinformation they can in order to get the Yankees to bite at 7 years.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!

by Roger on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I was reading reports that they didnt want to go more than 5 years

If that offer was from the Rangers I think the deal would be done.

by DFARowand on Dec 7, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

if they couldn’t afford Werth, they can’t afford Lee.

and Werth was more valuable to the Phils than Lee would be

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

Maybe they didn’t want Werth. Dominic Brown is waiting in the wings. By most accounts Werth wasn’t the best clubhouse guy and certainly not worth that contract.

The Phillies blocked Ryan Howard unnecessarily with Thome for a couple of years. No reason to repeat that by overpaying for Werth.

It really sounded as if Philly never really made a strong effort to get Werth and reports coming out midseason were that he was even on the even on the block. It was pretty clear Werth wasn’t coming back to Philly by most accounts. Not sure it was all financial either. That is just a good thing to say.

If all things were equal, I honestly think Philly would take Lee.

Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...

by The Czar on Dec 7, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Further bluster from Jamie McCourt

Putting together a potential buyer group for Frank’s half of the Dodgers.

Later in the article, there’s a statement issued from Frank’s lawyer saying that ownership of the team ‘remains firmly in his hands’. Which is kind of vague. All that the lawyers is saying is that actual operations remain with Frank.

Hopefully things get ugly.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Randy Johnson is going to buy the Dodgers?!

by Natto on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Look, I hate the Dodgers, but nothing deserves that much ugliness.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

300th win!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

But they will take what they can get

/signs Padilla

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugly off!

Padilla v Johnson…. Go!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And again...

LOL Dodgers

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

didnt they take out a bunch of bonds against the team just to pay this years payroll? then the multi-year deals are all backloaded too?

looks like they are putting all their eggs in one basket going for a World Series hail mary to save the franchise

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be pissed if they owned the Giants, this happened and people laughed at us

But LOL Dodgers!!!

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 7, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster Olney tweets Tuesday morning there is a growing speculation among rival agents and executives that the Washington Nationals are going to throw a HUGE number at Cliff Lee.

by djfivenine on Dec 7, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Hopefully before they sign the contract.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It might just be paranoia at this point…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The Red Sox have expressed interest in trading for Josh Willingham, according to the Washington Post’s Adam Kilgore.

My friend from Boston says the deal is nearly finished.

by djfivenine on Dec 7, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

People from Boston say a lot. Very little is true.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the Hammer

Between Adrian and Willingham, they’d have a pretty good middle order to go with good pitching.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 7, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

rocky is there going to be a rematch

ADRIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I just saw something on Willingham somewhere… yahoo! maybe…

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by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh nm…
It was Wigginton. Damned polysyllabic W names.

Rockies sign Wigginton for 2 years, $8M

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by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

why do they hate Jacoby Ellsbury?

Thing A

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by sam23 on Dec 7, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it stems from the injury last year/ he's known to be a bit of a diva

Red Sox: He’s not rehabing enough, not around the team enough, bad attitude

vs.

Ellsbury: They pressured me to rush back and I got hurt again, they moved me to left field, no contract extension talks

by DFARowand on Dec 7, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants not in on this?

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Between Burrell and Belt’s expected ascension moving Huff to left, it seems silly for them to be in on it. Also, I heard Washington is asking for too much.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the Nats getting handouts from Congress?

by Hobbes2d on Dec 7, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

So ‘yes’ then?

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You missed my crappy ‘rich get richer/bailout’ joke.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

HA!

/lights cigar with $100 bill

//offers valet some Cake

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL WUT

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well since it’s 2nd and 16 I’m guessing the entire defense is about 17.5 yards back from the ball.

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by Merope on Dec 7, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

So… did they make it?

It’s the opposite of a defensive alignment I remember from a college game, where they lined up 11 men on the line of scrimmage. Insta-sack, but of course they only used it once.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

that is just dumb, youre gonna give rodgers 15 yards without a defender to throw a short post route on 2nd and 16? you usually only put that kind of defense on the field if it’s 4th down

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL me

had it been any other team, i might have thought that…

but somehow running a play like that seems just like the 2010 Niners

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

SO SAD....SOOOOOOO TRUE!!!!!

New phrase for uncool….“How fucking Niner of you”

by IRONxMIKE on Dec 7, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

love it

the opposite of “that’s SO Raven”

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

you get more guys rushing to try to make the QB throw it even before any receivers reach 10 yds down.

by djfivenine on Dec 7, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It works fine if you have three really, really good men.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

/insert inappropriate joke here.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 7, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if anybody mentioned this, nor do I know when this happened, but apparently Chuck Lofgren (formerly of the Indians and Brewers and once a legitimate prospect) signed with the Fresno Grizzlies. He’s a local boy, having gone to Junipero Serra High School in San Mateo.

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by deuce deuce on Dec 7, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

Really..so shocking
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. — Three weeks ago, he was the most talked about trade chip at the annual general managers’ meetings. But by Tuesday, it was all but official: Justin Upton isn’t going anywhere.

Trade talks involving the Diamondbacks’ 23-year-old right fielder have “just about died,” a source familiar with the discussions told ESPN.com. While Arizona will still listen, the source said, the club is no longer motivated to trade him because it has begun filling some of the holes it would have plugged by dealing Upton.

Rosterbation at its finest

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

i thought someone would overpay, really thought he might be moved

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

what up nerbs

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, Jeff Sullivan you rule

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/12/7/1862138/baltimore-orioles-free-agency-planner

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Down them stairs, lose them cares, where?
Down in Birdland!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Like a boss.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

A new challenger appears

http://www.greggzaun.com/

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by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That Rush song has been on endless loop forever.

Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.

by bgunn on Dec 7, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CRAP.

I love the picture of him in his Seattle uniform playing the clarinet.

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by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

wait,

what the hell? it’s not a clarinet, its a bat, or some kind of claribat.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL WUT?
He has been one of the greatest players in world baseball ever since.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Rickey does not approve

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Born on February 19, in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, in 1992 he made his major-league debut.
A poet whose book were on sale in baseball stadiums

I hope he didn’t write this.

I can't fight this feeling anymore!

by ResDog on Dec 7, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was originally written in spanish

then got a babelfish translation or something.

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, that makes more sense.

Nice sig.

I can't fight this feeling anymore!

by ResDog on Dec 7, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Well his Dominican birth day probably is 1992

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a photshopped pic (looks like a mirror type) that is classic

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks like a magician.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 7, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone on the Giants needs a cool website like this. I’m thinking Zito or Weezy? Maybe even PTB.

/throws fist full of glitter in the air!

♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥

by GiantsBabe on Dec 7, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

www.barryzito.com

used to exist. not sure if it still does. It was official.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently its down...

“You do not have permission to access this server.”

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

oh well

at least we have Brian’s video channel. Btw, I must mention that he still has not answered my question.

/throws fist full of glitter in the air!

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by GiantsBabe on Dec 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

So what's the deal with the Dodgers Divorce?

apparently the judge just ruled in favor of Jamie (might be yesterday news, i just got off shift).

What would that mean to the Dodgers, that she’d sell them?

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

She gets the Dodgers Monday through Friday but then gets to go out with the girls while Frank watches them during the weekend.

I can't fight this feeling anymore!

by ResDog on Dec 7, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

My understanding:

Jamie now owns half of the Dodgers…which means:

Nothing…they co-own the Dodgers together (not likely)
Frank can buy Jamie’s share (which he does not have the money for)
Jamie can buy Jamie out (which she does not have the money for)
The two can sell the team and split the proceeds (probable)

It’s like any other property in a divorce (think of the Dodger as a really messed up house)

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

because Frank was trying to get the whole team, I thought because the judge ruled in her favor that she would get the whole team. so they were basically fighting for either all Frank, or half hers. got it.

yeah now this is gonna get messy, because the team has taken on a ton of debt and Frank can’t pay her off for it

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

In my humble opinion: It’s a horrible decision…

Jamie was/is a family law attorney in Boston and claimed that she did not know what she was signing.

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah, but the lawyer also went back chnaged things after she signed.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

IMO both McCourts lied on the stand, the lawyers lied about documents, everyone is lying.

A whole lot of parts of the team have been exposed during this, like how they were paying themselves rent (ie taking cash) from the team.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The presumption is that it’s joint marital property, so if something made deviation from that unclear (like shady Frank lawyer actions) then my guess is the court said, “Fuck it, it’s joint property, now sell it and get the hell out.” But in fancier legal terms.

I feel prickishly demanding!

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by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there any indication that Jamie wants to sell the team?

Frank does not, and I thought Jamie wanted a job back with them.

I am not sure this is going to lead to selling the team since both would have to sign off on it now.

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily…depending on how the sale is set up, one can force a co-owner to sale or to be bought out…

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

and therein lies the problem. I don’t think Frank finds anyone who wants half the team (even IF jamie signs off on her half being bought out), not in the financial shape it’s in right now.

and if Jamie refuses to sign off on her half being bought out, then you’ve got a major problem on your hands

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Andrew Martin just accused someone of being too easily offended.

Also LOL

I’m not “offended” but I think it causes unnecessary

impugning of one’s reputation as being so drunk that one collapses.

NO ONE EVER DRINKS SO MUCH AS TO COLLAPSE!

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid format
I’m not “offended” but I think it causes unnecessary
impugning of one’s reputation as being so drunk that one collapses.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

This was my favorite

Do you think that in the Rockies organization where behavior and character are huge
and as a leader in the organization this would be taken lightly?

by kingofthacove on Dec 7, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I just got to that and was about to bring it over.

Wow, it must really be lonely and cold on top of that mountain range.

Its the damn winter meetings, isn’t there always stories about how they are up most of the night drinking and talking, with deals being broken at like 2 am?

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 7, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

with deals being broken at like 2 am?

i hope nobody Roofies Sabes for Buster.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

:o

This isn’t chasm? This is serious?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard that it wasn't him getting drunk....

But rather long nights of wild, consensual sex with the other managers and GMs coupled with a steady array of opiates and uppers taken while drinking. The rumor is that he hadn’t eaten in four or five days leading up to the collapse. So, really, impugning The Tracinator with the assumption that a single night of drinking could lay him low…. Well. If that’s not offensive, I don’t know what is.

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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

oh, look who’s offended… our good old friend SDCat, who is like the victor frankenstein but a Rockies fan. Always find her on opposing teams boards saying how much she hates the Giants and blah blah blah

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

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by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

People read that site?

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

apparently they are a very angry bunch who wish that career-ending injuries befall our players next year. someone from here copied some text that Andrew Martin typed himself hoping that half our team went down.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

At least they provide us with entertainment.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 7, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Only after a 3-4 day binge of cocaine, ether, and tequila can I ever understand the Purple Row.

Yes, yes, irony.

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, so much commotion over a joke.

by Natto on Dec 7, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Grant really needs to send his mod’s to a sensitivity class.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

sl

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 7, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Not even a particularly good joke.

Sabean, Kruk and Kuip are called drunks on, what…. A daily basis? And we like Kruk and Kuip!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 7, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Because calling someone possibly drunk is defamation of character. Yep

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 7, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you just call me a drunk, Sir? I declare, we shall settle this like gentlemen. What is your weapon of choice for our duel?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 7, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe this calls for a Four-Loko duel to the death!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 7, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

What is your weapon of choice for our duel?

Fernet shots.

Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.

by bgunn on Dec 7, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa. Gary Sheffield?

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

Rays DH, I would imagine. no NL team will let him field

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Still. Weird to think He might come back. I counted him out a while ago.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

how old is he now? 42, 43, 44?

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

42

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude still hit in 2009

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

So did Chuck Lidell

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 7, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

last i heard he was offered a fulltime job in 2010 but the team wasn’t a contender or something like that so he turned it down

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I just remembered I got Jeffrey Hammonds’ autograph one time.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

I got Tim Brown and Charles Woodson’s autograph one year.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 7, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

My mom got an autograph from Bill Walsh…nicest man she ever met.

by calbearjd on Dec 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Mueller. Fresh from a game.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Inception came out today

and I’m kinda afraid that I’m gonna watch it tonight and find that the whole last 3 months of the season/playoffs/World Series championship was a dream, and we really finished in 4th place like we were when I first saw the movie

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 7, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

I’m afraid I’m going to watch it eventually and go, “oh, that was nice” and then never think about it again. It really seems like the kind of movie that is going to give me that reaction.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 7, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m afraid I’m going to watch it and spend the whole 3 hours thinking about other better movies that it reminds me of. Oh no, I already did that.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!

by Roger on Dec 7, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Pffft

I was posting in that thread before it was cool.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 7, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not cool.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 7, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed that Konerko got signed. 3/37.5 seems a little steep.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

Ease up on Barry

Sure, he’s our fifth starter, but look around the league, a lot of teams would have Zito as high as a #2 or #3 in some cases. Hell, Zito would have easily cracked the Yankees post season rotation. Their 2011 rotation is no better.

The problem, yes, is the contract. He’s making too much money. But he’s not making so much money that the Giants can’t afford to sign other players.

Rowand on the other hand, he should take a cue from Eric Byrnes. Just hang ‘em up. You got your money, you’re not going to be seeing a whole lot of playing time. Just go home.

By the way, for 2011, Arron Rowand will now be referred to as Dorn.

Lou Brown: I thought you said we didn’t have any high priced talent.
Charlie Donovan: Forget about Dorn (Rowand), he’s just high priced.

by Mario R on Dec 8, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

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