Winter Meetings Preview
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Hot Rumors
- According to Yelp, if Brian Sabean needs to change the oil in his rental car, Mobil Lube Express is the place to go in Orlando! It's pretty unlikely that he'd need to change the oil in a rental car, but you never know.
- The Giants' are likely out of the Cliff Lee sweepstakes.
- The proposed sign-and-trade, four-team deal between the Giants, Twins, Rockies, and Magic is dead after Dwight Howard exercised his no-trade clause and it was clear that he had no interest in playing in a fictionalized reality that I created while drinking.
- The Giants have still won the World Series. Seriously.
Cold Rumors
- The Giants are probably not going to sign Vlad Guerrero after the 2003 season.
- The Giants are considering trading for Sidney Ponson several years ago.
- Edgardo Alfonzo is a free agent, and it appears as if he'll be a poor replacement for Jeff Kent.
More updates as the rumors fly around. IT'S GETTING CRAZY, FOLKS!
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If we’d signed Vlad, we wouldn’t have sucked for so long, which wouldn’t have netted us all those tasty first round picks so we wouldn’t have fun the 2010 World Series. Science.™
I’ll take this team instead.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Why is everyone on this site so obsessed with Barry McGuigan?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Rockies interested in Bengie.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/rockies-interested-in-bengie-molina.html
Heh.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I hope this happens
Torres will steal 20 bases next year against the Rockies alone.
"And as Edgar rounds the bases the ghosts run
with him, the great ones like Mays and McCovey and Cepeda, and the
almost forgotten ones like Bolin and LeMaster and Manwaring…" - J. Rant
by Giant Torture on Dec 5, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
But he will handle the pitchers to Cy Youngs!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
is “Cy Young” a euphemism?
Some say that some cannot say because the Stig can make some not say what they want to say and all i want to say is i don't know what the hell i'm trying to say.
Would you like to Cy my Young?
More comfortable with chicken
by billywitchdoctor.com on Dec 5, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
.

someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 5, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
this should be green
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Looks like the two are about to make out.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t know what would give you that notion.
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Aaron Rowand gives great hugs.
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
“After Pat’s rejection, Rowand was on the rebound. He was looking for comfort, for stability. He never knew he’d find it in Tim’s embrace…”
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
yes! :)
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
yep
I know that haircut.
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Huh
I never noticed that before.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
from the comments
For the love of all that is holy, open up the wallets. If there is 37,000 fans per game at Coors, you can afford to chase some good FA’s. Martin>Molina.
I really want the Mets to bring Molina on board as a backup / platoon guy with Thole. He’s always been a fan favorite and should have signed a 2 year deal last offseason if not for Omar being so stingy with the guy.
Bring Bengie on board!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 5, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
They just gave Tulo 16 mil avg per year for 10 years… They have to cut corners somewhere.
It's better to be lucky than good.
Boy they love to block Iannetta
Over and over with guys who have a just awful approach.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Yep. Torrealba, Olivo, now Bengie.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
if Benjie sings with Colorado, he will hit .400/.402/.836 against the Giants, crushing all of the McCoven with several game winning hits just as Yorvit did. Against the rest of the league, of course, Benjie will hit .201/.224/.301
Some say that some cannot say because the Stig can make some not say what they want to say and all i want to say is i don't know what the hell i'm trying to say.
Your crazy.
Against the rest of the league its .213/.200/.301 easy.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
How is the OBP lower than BA?
He get thrown out on his walk to 1b?
It's better to be lucky than good.
Yeah, it’s an artifact of how OBP and BA are calculated. BA doesn’t include sac flies, but OBP does.
Otherwise known as the "Molina Conundrum"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I am more interested in what Bengie would do against the Giants.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Capping the Cycle
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
.182/.308/.273
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If Bengie sings with Colorado
the game will be over even before it starts.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
He would strike me as a tenor.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I read that as “he would strike me as a terror”, and that was apt too
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
/sees what you did ther
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This needs moar green
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
But, but....
What about Werth and Crawford? My hopes were so high! You are better than that Grant!
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
Sabean should
just leave a card on his desk that says ‘WON WORLD SERIES’ and not show up
by TBRMKane on Dec 5, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
You can find me in the World Champions' Hospitality Suite
Fuck work. Let’s drink.
The thong is, it happened.
by Goofus on Dec 5, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This^
is all to true, may be the most boring meetings ever, for a Giants fan
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You know what
I kind of like it that way. It lets me store up all of my sports angst for a while.
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
by Cant_buy_a_run on Dec 5, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
The only interesting thing about the Winter Meetings for Giants fans
Hoping the other NL West teams do something stupid (ie trading Adrian Gonzales for prospects, signing Bengie Molina etc.). Who knows maybe the Dodgers will find a way to acquire Milton Bradley. He’s getting old, he’s overpriced and is a terrible club house presence, sounds right up Agent Ned’s alley.
"And as Edgar rounds the bases the ghosts run
with him, the great ones like Mays and McCovey and Cepeda, and the
almost forgotten ones like Bolin and LeMaster and Manwaring…" - J. Rant
Giants trade for a shortstop!!!
Frank Duffy acquired from Reds for George Foster!!!!
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
by iloveddickdietz on Dec 5, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions
Speier for Foli! GIT R DUNN SABES!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
That one still hurts
Never even made a glimmer of sense to me.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
THIS is the kind of hard hitting analysis I come here for.
Not those “Giants won the World Series” puff stories.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
WHAT IF I CAME HERE FOR NEWS?!?
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
When does the ring design come out?
I’m having it tattooed on my chest.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
I’m having it tattooed on my chest. lower back
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
What about the trophy?
Is it ever going to be available for public display?
Would we be allowed to – uh – handle it as well as see it?
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 5, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I thought I remembered hearing that there was some place for it by the Lefty O’Doul gate.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
It was in San Jose parade today
with Romo and Torres.
After the parade they were at the Giants dugout store in the Valley Fair mall.
Sabean and Bochy on the tea cups ride. Book it.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2010 10:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Really, the only interesting thing left in this offseason
Is
1) Whether Rent will come back.
2) Who’s getting kicked off the 25 man when DeRosa comes back.
If we have Torres/Sanchez/Huff/Posey/Burrell/Ross/Tejada/Sandoval penciled in as starters, then we have 5 bench spots to split between Whiteside/Rowand/Fontenot/Schierholtz/Ishikawa/DeRosa
It gets even more complicated if you bring back Rent or Belt breaks camp in ST – then you’d have to kick off two guys.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
DFA Rowand.
I guess we wouldn’t have a true centerfielder on the bench, though.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
there is about 100 minor league outfielders that free agents that can play center and likely be as productive as rowand
by NateEveryday on Dec 5, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
well yea, but that wouldn’t really clear up the bench logjam. I think the main point of dealing/dumping Rowand is getting the room to keep Nate/Ishi/Rent/Belt on the 25 man roster.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I don’t think I’d DFA Rowand to keep Ishikawa, but if you could get someone to take on enough of Rowand’s contract to add a good backup C or a good long relief/spot start option then I’d do it.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
goddamnit
this simply isn’t true.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
It’s a drastic exaggeration, but yeah, he’s pretty much Schierholtz at this point, and those player’s aren’t particularly hard to find.
Only if you don’t see any kind of bounceback from him whatsoever, which is kind of odd. I fully expect a ~13 wRC+ bounceback.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
He’s averaged a 92 wRC+ over the past three years. I don’t see any reason to expect him to better that.
that's about where I expect him to be
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I wish i could believe in that #2
but Derosa returning healthy in 2011 and playing say over 400 inings that way seems a lot like a Loch Ness monsterr sighting to me … but with out the grainy photos.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Then again, who would have expected F. Sanchez to remain healthy and productive for as long as he did in 2010?
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 5, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
true
But diffrence between the 2010 Sanchez execptaions and reality is a lot larger than what he are looking at with DeRosa. To me he is such an under dog I have to pull for him ( like Ishi in ’09) and I love how he tried to handle in the injury disptie managment manouvering but man he odds look long thatn Ishi being a better and league average 1b in the MLB for 1K innings in 2011.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
all things told, i thought he was gonna go down after that horrible July/August, was it?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Eating crow
I didn’t think he would play 2/3rds of teh season and deffinatley not at the level he did.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Seems that way, but Sabean usually finds some way to surprise us. I still sort of expect a big trade for a third baseman or shortstop. Maybe even a corner outfielder.
...Now we can say that he's not worth it
LOL NATS
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Haha, the Nat’s FO is mentally unstable. Just another Zito contract.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
With the important exception being that
Werth has a chance of actually being good, possibly even worth it (No. I won’t do that.) in at least his first 4 years
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR INTENDED PUNS
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Before the offseason started, I thought he would definitely be worth it
However, seeing how much everyone is paying this winter, I have a feeling it’s not a good time to be buying.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I still think he'd be worth something like 5/80
But I wouldn’t go much over that at all.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You'd have to talk him down from his demands then
He’s looking for Matt Holliday like contract. $120 mil/7yrs as a starting point of discussion. Get to work
Probabley quite a few....
I mean Drew will be in his age 35 season next year, correct? I mean those are teh rishes he tends to feel most at home with. Is he not currentlyt a type B free agent?Park him in RF offer arb…
/cue benny hill chase music
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Actually, he doesn't fit the Sabean bill very well
Not that durable, takes pitches and draws walks, low RBI totals for a middle of the order hitter.
by BustaTheRippa on Dec 5, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Probably Cameron
Also apparently there’s some friction with Ellsbury. I want Ellsbury
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So let me get this straight...
They gave Werth a Soriano deal because they lost out on Dunn who would have cost half as much tops, and now that they have signed him, they are going to let go of Willingham?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Nothing like watching good tire fire.
/ burps..sips beer …smiles … listens to rain drops snap as they hit flames.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
No faith in Pablo?
Or you think the Giants don’t have any?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I don’t think the Giants do. I can’t say I have much faith in him, but I’m certainly not ready to give up on him yet.
It's probably stupid of me
But I have a lot of faith in Pablo. I don’t think he’s as good as the 2009 version, but I feel like he’s definitely capable of putting up numbers better than his career line.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
/ gets in this line
the think offensively that is a reasonible expection. If he is catching a couple days a week, playing others spots another 2-3 days that is mighty upgrade of production to get out the 2nd string cather spot IMHO.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
This line.
I’m in it.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
So hard to know. I really didn’t believe in him before 2009, on account of the utter absence of plate discipline, and so his 2010 wipeout seemed like the way things were supposed to go in the first place. But the chance that he might get back to where he was in 2009, or better, makes him very valuable still.
I think the Giants absolutely have faith in Pablo.
They stuck with Pablo all year long and only sat him in the playoffs when its do or die time.
Its not like he’s some young guy who hasn’t proven himself. Boch and Sabes personally watched him dominate in 09. You could argue he saved their jobs.
So I think they will give themselves contingency plans, but will put their chips on the Panda.
Some
Sabean might have learned is Nathan leason. Hey it could happen.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
still think Rowand is getting traded this offseason. Giants’ eat a ton of money, get back a C prospect (probably a relief pitcher who will immediately be downloaded with changeup.exe) and we’re all happy we don’t have to look at him anymore
Some say that some cannot say because the Stig can make some not say what they want to say and all i want to say is i don't know what the hell i'm trying to say.
will it involve knowing it and shutting his mouth?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
this would be stupid
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
The only reason to do it would be to save money. Getting rid of Rowand just to get rid of him is dumb
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
and even then
you have to save a pretty substantial amount for it to be worth it.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
no
but 4th outfielder, and he’s quite a bit better than Nate.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
How much would you need to save to get a deal done for a non prospect?
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
for no value in return?
Half his salary, at least
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
what?
we already gave him that money, we might as well use him while he’s here unless we’re going to get pretty substantial savings. I know you think he’s basically Nate, but his recent history is MUCH better than Nate’s.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
This isn’t about signing a guy, it’s about trading him. We already have 24M committed to Rowand. I think Rowand (if given a starting role) would be worth about 2/12. If another team wants him without having to give anything back you’re goddamn right they’re gonna have to pay market rate.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
what?
no. I would give Rowand 2/12 TO START. He’s a 4th OF on THIS team because we already have 3 OF who are better. If I’m trading him to a team where he will start, I’m going to make them pay him a starter’s salary.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Well, first off all, why? Your goal is to help your team, not to not help another team. If Rowand isn’t worth 2/12 to you, why in the world would you choose to continue paying him like he is? It’s not like it’s a two-team league, in which case it’s a zero sum game – there are 30 teams out there, half of which aren’t even in the same league as yours. Why wouldn’t you give him to, say, the Red Sox in exchange for $10M, even if you think he’s going to be worth $12M for them? Who cares that they (supposedly) saved $2M?
Second, who says he’d be a starting player for the team that gets him? That just seems like a weird assumption.
And third, there is no chance that Rowand is “worth” 2/12 as a starting CF. Rowand, at this point, would have a good shot at being the worst starting CF in the majors. Of the 30 CF with the most PA’s in the past 3 years, Rowand is 28th in wRC+. The only two are worse are Carlos Gomez, who is no longer a starting player, and Melky Cabrera. I guess he might be worse than Rowand, but I’m not sure, and not by much. Giving 2/12 to a 33 year old a guy who will be one of the absolute worst starters at his position is just bizarre.
because its a sunk cost
why in the world would you choose to continue paying him like he is?
WE ARE ALREADY PAYING HIM.
Trading him for half his salary would be us paying him 2/12 to go somewhere else.
Even if you’re just going by the value he’d provide to the giants a team would need to pay at least 4M/year. And then what? What do you have? You have a roster spot and $4M. Honestly, I’d rather just have Rowand.
Now, if we’re talking about actually getting some value back, my tune changes quite a bit.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
You know, I don’t think I’ve ever argued with anyone who tried as hard as you do to make me sound like an idiot. Pretty much every comment I made here is followed by you replying as if it were the stupidest, most offensive thing you’ve heard all day. I can go “what?” or just MAKE A STATEMENT IN CAPS LOCK after every single comment you make too. What’s the point of this?
because
honestly I have no idea why you’re saying that I’m saying that I would sign Rowand to this team for 2/12. It makes zero sense to me, and I can’t see how you’re even getting there.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Well, let’s see…
Rowand is currently signed to 2/24. You’re saying that you’ll trade him only for a team that would pay at least half is salary, which is $12M. How could I not deduce from that that you think Rowand is worth 2/12 to the Giants?
Option 1 is to have Aaron Rowand on this team.
Option 2 is to not have Rowand on this team, and save $12M over two years.
To argue that the two options are equally good, is, by definition, to argue that Aaron Rowand is worth, to this team, $12M over two years.
This is really basic logic.
What price to you put on the open 40 & 25 spot move rowand creates?
Seriously once 25 man starts to get league average ( or better) in most of is 25 man haveing a spot that you can place the next Cody Ross or Andres Torress type that hits waviers, or maybe there is young Rule V guy that has abut butt load of tools but not harnessed them yet you want to try and keep ( ussaly a pitcher but sometimes it is middle infiedler or OF). Prehaps winter is ending an their is a guy out there that good but just not getting a contract offer tha you could use for a few months as insuance then flip. All this you come along with moveing Rowand.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
not much
because we can just release Nate/Travis. Say what you will about Rowand, but he’s better than Nate, and I’d want to maximize the talent on the 25 man.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
But over what window?
2 months 2 years? Seriously the teams needs to be aware the widow should be open for Ws contentsion for the next 2-3 seasons at least. Picking up a guy that can be arround and well above a 2.5 War players has to start being the aim now instead of just less suck.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
I should clearify
… over a 2.5 War season or fit a clear specailty need.
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clearify: v, to unobscurate or decloudiform.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
/ mashes head on desk
time to not hurry posts again…
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Hey Villiphied,
are you Rowands dad or something? Brother? What…?
Getting rid of Rowand and getting anything over say, 2 million in salary relief wuold be a plus.
He should be nothing more than 5th OF on this team, and frankly I prefer Nate over him.
Torres, Burrell, Ross should be the startign OF, and Nate should be the defensive replacement. Does Rowand make a good PH? maybe, maybe not, should he be paid anything more than 2 million for that service? probably not.
DeRosa if he’s healthy would be at least as good as an option, maybe a better option for that 5th OF spot because he can also play 2b and 3B.
Right now the it looks like the positional alignment for the 25 man looks like this;
OF
Torres
Burrell
Ross
Nate
Rowand
IF
Huffer
Mole
Tejada
Pablo
Ishi
DeRosa
Fontenot
C
The Buster Posey Show
?
So if they go with 12 pitchers, or sign a real SS, or don’t let Pablo be the backup C, someone has to go. Will Rowand have a mysterious injury when they head up to SF? Will DeRosa still need a 30 day DL stint to get his wrist to calm down? if not it’s a question of Rowand, Ishi or Nate, and if I can get a couple million of salary relief by trading Rowand, that’s my choice. He might be my choice even if we had to pay all but the minimium on his contract.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
And I should add...
IF Wheeler has a J. Sanchez circa 2006 kind of season, we should be having this same discussion about Zito next year.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
At this point
The giants desperately just need to trade rowand for a C to C+ level prospect while having the other team take on at least 2-3 million per for the remainder of his contract. That is definitely a plausible situation that in my opinion is the best way to at its worst help settle the giants 40 man and add a couple bucks to the payroll, if not allow us more flexibility on the major league roster and the log jam in the outfield. At this point I almost find Rowand as useless as Ishikawa. Ross could always move to center in the abscense of Torres. And hey, at least Ishi can get u a pinch hit walk or bat from the LEFT side. It’s likely better for everyone, Rowands gotta go
Brandon!
Belts one out of here!!
by Vaccaro on Dec 6, 2010 5:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The doors to the conference room fly open
Sabes walks in, World Series Trophy held high in his hands, looks around the room at his peers and says:?:?
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
Nothing. He just walks to his seat and just buffs the trophy for the duration of the meetings, ignoring the proceedings.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
You mean the "trophy" on the back of the WS champion hats?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I am kong!
That is all.
Winning isn't everything... but I could get used to this
by homegrowntalent on Dec 5, 2010 11:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Fuck work! Let's drink!
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jinks!
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" F*&% work. Let's drink!"
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
/takes off his pants, points at his crotch
"Campones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 5, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I’m really not going to be taking your calls or returning your messages now, you whining losers!
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
by Fla-Giant on Dec 5, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"Yeah, we were lucky ...
F—k yeah! Shut up!"
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
First, I would like to tank J.P. Riccardi for not sweetening the Alex Rios discussions. I know J.P. is no longer with us, but this never would have been possible had he thrown Brandon League into the mix.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 6, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
too true
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I think it's really weird that Deion Sanders once played for the Giants.
Darryl Strawberry, too.
This would be a good question for jcb9: People who it is weird to think actually played for the Giants.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Orel...
/ frowns.
rembers 2010 WS and taps feets ina happy rytheme.
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Wow. Dude could still hit, too.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, yes he could.
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Goose Gossage
Dan Quisenberry
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Warren Spahn
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Duke Snider
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I attended a game that had the Duke in right field.
Strange it was.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 5, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN196405020.shtml
Here’s a strange box score from May 2, 1964: Duke hits a home run in the top of the 9th inning at Dodger Stadium to tie the game for the Giants — who go on to win the game in extra innings.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 5, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you, Grizzlie. I think I watched that one on TV. There were two down and he had two strikes on him. Then he lined it into the right field stands. I leapt. That team won 90, which was good for 4th.
Mays started hot. After 15 games he was hitting nearly .500. He cooled off, of course, as he tired. He was always conflicted about the greenies. Those Giants were a home run team: Mays finished with 47; Cepeda and Hart each had 31. (Second place in the NL was Billie Williams with 33.) They led the NL with 167, but were almost last with a 4.12 ERA. They were often beaten in the late innings. It was the beginning of my disillusionment. It might have ended recently.
‘64 was the Duke’s last year. He was born in Los Angeles and came back there for five years after his peak. He was Cust-like, but with fielding skills and consistency. Even in the LA years, he had a SA around .500, though he was rarely the starting choice. He was always the fans’ choice. Even my grandparents liked him, and they hated the Dodgers.
He became The Silver Fox when he went gray in his 30’s. He had class without knowing it. For five years, he deserved to be in the same discussion with Mays and Mantle. But he didn’t have a decade in him. They still had to cut the uniform off him.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 5, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ronny Paulino
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
LOL
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Jerome Williams!
opps wrongs side of the bay.
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Nice
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Gary Carter
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 5, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Brad Penny
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
That was fun
There were some really amusing pictures of him standing next to Timmy
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Rob Deer
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 5, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Alex Sanchez
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Miguel Tejada
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 5, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
He was one of my favorite players on that team.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Mine too. I hated to see him go in ’03.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I just remember him always making the right play and getting big hits.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Andres Galarraga
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
AND AFTER ALL
YOU’RE JOHN VANDER WAL
/sang that every time he came to bat, against my will
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Manny Trillo
Brett Butler, Dave Henderson
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Sorry I see Butler was previously mentioned.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Roger Hornsby
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Desi Relaford
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Dec 5, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
aka Tomko v1.2?
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Sabean and Bochy's main task is to lay on the psyche job
Wandering around with little Mona Lisa smiles, saying things like, “Yeah, it was a good year.”
“I really have to hand it to our players.”
“We don’t really have the money some teams have so we have to do it with scouting and coaching.”
“Yeah, that Posey, he’s really something.”
“I’m not sure where we’re going to fit everybody in next year but we’ll do it.”
A little humming and a relaxed walk. Easy relaxed manner at the tables.
Psyche.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
The creators of Mystery Science Theater 3000 tell a great story about the general manager of the UHF TV station where the show was born.
He never understood what the show was about. He’d walk into the studio during shooting, look at the robots, the theater seats, the cheap set and this group of 20-something standup comedians writing jokes about a terrible movie. He’d jingle the change in his pocket, mutter “What the hell are you guys up to now? Heh, heh…” and walk back out.
I want Sabean to do this at every meeting.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
by TheLetter2 on Dec 5, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+109
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
This.
And just play the luck thing to death.
We were so lucky to get Huff…
We were so lucky to get Ross…
We were so lucky to have Rent go big in the WS…
awww shucks dont know how we do it again…
(tucks 2.5 starting pitcher ERA in back pocket…)
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
correction
2.5 earned runs per game.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Sabez living the high life
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
On flight with me to Orlando: Sabean, Geren, half-dozen other Giants employees… and a dozen 14-year-old cheerleaders.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Sabes is the Commodore from Boardwalk Empire?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
WalrusMan works for the Giants?
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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"The Giants are not expected to make any trades."
Are we sure the NL West is not done swapping infielders around?
bring me the head of Jamey Carroll!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 5, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Lite or unlite?
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Braun for Greinke?
One rumor shared with the Kansas City Star’s Bob Dutton has the Royals netting outfielder Ryan Braun in a deal with Milwaukee. The slugger is signed for five more seasons at a total of $40.5 million. The Brewers need pitching sorely.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Braun has an incredible contract.
I think that’d be a great deal for the royals.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
This
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 5, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
why all these Braun rumors?
they can’t seriously want to trade him, right? I know they want pitching but I fail to see how gutting their offense to bring in an ace really is a huge step forward. Do they have some hot hitting prospects on the way that I’m unaware of?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 5, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Amazeing tidbit.
I was going to say the rational was a reverse Petco: small yard make getting hitting easier. Then Ilooked at the B-R park numbers under 100?!?! What the hell is going on here? I know the NL Centeral has been bad, bad , bad the last 2-3 seasons but they can’t have been that bad…right?
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He’s drafted pretty well.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If that counts.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He has, but I was thinking more about things that involve other people (GM’s or agents). Like, has he ever “won” a trade, or managed to sign a player for less than what he’s worth?
Was he responsible for getting Joakim Soria in the Rule 5?
That’s pretty much all I can think of.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I guess?
I’m not sure if GM’s really get that involved in the rule-5 draft. But yeah, that’s a great move. Why was he even available? He had just had a good year in AAA as a 22 year-old.
I dunno, but I'm glad the Padres let him go
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
anyone know if the giants have any Rule V draft targets?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Signing Wilson Betemit worked out pretty well. Other than that and the draft…..
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Looking at his trade history
He’s won some marginal deals: Ambiorix Burgos for Brian Bannister, Billy Buckner for Alberto Callaspo,
Horacio Ramirez for Paulo Orlando could end up being very good.
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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Agreed
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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You absolutely do not trade that contract under any circumstances. Who cares if you need pitching? He’s making peanuts.
Thing C
by markdash on Dec 5, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Doubt it would happen. Braun being traded and losing Fielder in a year, they will not have an offense after that.
Eh
They COULD trade Braun for Greinke plus one of the Royal’s good prospects. I think Braun for Greinke + Hosmer would be fair.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That seems a touch high
Maybe Braun for Greinke + Duffy or Dwyer
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the Pirates want to know what happened to their farm system, then
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
/ cues Ron White
“You can’t fix stupid.”
Well at least not over night you can’t.
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If we infused Giants prospects into the Royals system I think it would look like this
1-Wil Myers
2-Eric Hosmer
3-Brandon Belt
4-John Lamb
5-Mike Moustakas
6-Mike Montgomery
7-Christian Colon
8-Danny Duffy
9-Chris Dwyer
10-Zack Wheeler
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I think I’d rank Johnny Giavotella above Wheeler. I don’t know what the scouts say, but he’s a 22 year-old 2B who hit .322/.395/.460 in AA last year, with a 67/61 K/BB. 2nd round pick in 2008.
Giavotella? please tell me he’s in the SF system
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
No
but he profiles a little bit like Brock Bond
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Giavotella has a little more power. Not lots, but a little.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Giovatella is definitely better
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I sorta don’t, unless he suddenly turns into a wizard with the glove.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
I still think Bowker could be a 5th-OF/poor-man’s-RF type.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
a ringing endorsement!
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Outside my occasional, gauzy, that-NDFA-kid-can-make-it-really fantasies, I am pretty unlikely to project guys to their blue-sky ceilings. Bowker could turn into a major-league regular, but that’s not what the betting money says after looking at his numbers and scouting reports.
A 5th-OF/PH/poor-man’s-RF is not worthless at league minimum.
by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Bond is quite a ways off though, wasn’t he?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
He played well in AAA last year
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I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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He’d be ready now if he could play defense or hit for power. He does neither.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
that’s no good
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
He gets on base, though. You shouldn’t underrate that.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
There are questions about whether he can stay at 2B
But yeah, you could argue either him, Tim Collins, or Aaron Crow to be ahead of Wheeler.
Also one of the Royals prospects being overlooked is LHP Will Smith. He had a 51:4 K:BB in A+ ball last year
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Everything went right for them last year in the minors — everything.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
This makes no sense for the Brewers
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
five seasons of Braun for only $40.5 mil?
I’d trade Sanchez and 2 prospects (not Belt tho) for that
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Sanchez?
That opens a wide, gaping hole in the rotation. I just don’t know.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Totally worth it. Sanchez is much less predictable and much more likely to blow up than to turn in a 5 WAR season, which Braun does in spades. But you want Torres on his left in the field.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Do Barr and Evans travel as well?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 11:20 AM PST reply actions
WELL THAT WAS A WASTE OF YESTERDAY
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Source; gonzalez deal fell thru
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#redsox just could not reach deal w a-gon. #padres
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I'd do Neal, Wheeler, and... someone else, maybe Joseph?
Obviously we have Belt, but A-Gon is the kind of guy who you force Belt to play in the outfield for.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
By my count you have 4 outfielders there.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Wow. Well, it was fun while it lasted.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Though
It’s not clear to me if the EXTENSION talks fell through, or the entire trade talks?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think the trade was contigent on an extension
Which is why they had the 2PM deadline today.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: Window is closed for #RedSox to negotiate extension with AGon. Teams can still negotiate trade. This is far from over. #Padres #MLB
Hmmmm
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I assume if an extension doesn't happen
The trade would be for lesser prospects.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Doubt the Pads would take it
Those prospects were fair for 1 year of a 5-6 win player.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I honestly don't know anything about the prospects
But if the trade doesn’t come with a signed extension, it would have to cost less.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Why?
The extension is all on the RedSox side. Whether or not the Sox sign him to an extension, the Padres are still giving up the exact same thing – 1 year of AGon at an affordable price.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Not really
If the deal fell through because they couldn’t sign an extension, it obviously hinged on that extension. Now, they are trying to work another deal for 1 year of AGon.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Except
The Red Sox aren’t getting the same thing; they’re going from eight years of Gonzalez at market price to one year of Gonzalez at a reasonable price, and that’s not worth as much.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
THis
but they were also saying that the trade would happen as long as they had basic framework, but (see below) it sounds like Gonzales wanted 8 years and Boston only wanted to give 6
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
just to let you know Brandon Belt got married this weekend to his high school sweetheart Haylee.
Congrats to Brandon, this should be a great year for him.
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Dec 5, 2010 11:45 AM PST reply actions
Really curious to see for whom Sabean will massively overpay
after the Zito and Rowand contracts are done & we have some money to play with.
Trying to think of who'll be an FA in 2013/2014
I bet that we sign Jimmy Rollins next offseason though. And I bet I won’t mind it at all.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Depends if he has an injury plagued season this year
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
True
If he plays a full season at decent production, I can easily see him being our biggest FA target.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I like him, but there’s also Reyes and Hardy (and Bartlett and Scutaro as backup plans). Good year to find a SS.
Depends on how 2011 plays out
But right now I’d rather have Rollins than either of those guys.
Hopefully the market will play in our favor when we try to find another SS.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I assumed Reyes will get a ton of money
But considering the utter lack of interest in him in the trade market this year…who knows.
I think I'd prefer Hardy
Just because I think Rollins will get a huge deal
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We're going to need a shortstop dude
And Rollins is a very good one.
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BAY AREA TIES
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by Murray, Present on Dec 5, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Bay Area Ties!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Obviously Your mother
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Lincecum, Cain, Wilson, Sanchez, Posey extension, buying Belt’s and Madbum’s arbitration out, etc.
I honestly don’t see the Giants getting a premium FA for a long time. I’m just glad the mistake contracts run out at the right time to pay the players that actually led us to the WS when their clocks are up.
With this current team, the payroll will likely remain at or above $100 million for a long time without signing any premium guys from other clubs. Likely they will need to continue adding vets that want to finish out playing behind a championship calibre pitching staff at a discount.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
makes sense to me
proud, yes I said proud, adoptive papa of "Geno" Eugenio Velez--
more game changing bunts than Buster Posey!
a World Champions San Francisco Giant of 2010!
Ive been singing this tune for a long time and it’s not changing.
want to keep the pitching we have, then every offseason is just getting some hitters. pitching is the worst to deal with obtaining, everyone wants a premium for aces.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Yup, yup.
Keep as many of our guys as we possibly can and fill in the wholes for cheap. I don’t want to get more caught up in the FA insanity than we have to.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
holes…not wholes…fail.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
i read that as whores at first so its all good, lol
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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“fill in the whores for cheap” and was like what?
OH.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Good to know we can both read and write…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
when you read and type a million words a day, it happens
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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this post made me lol
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
word last nite was that at a-gon sought 8 yr deal, #redsox preferred 6. but that was early in process and unconfirmed. #padres
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I still think its crazy to do anything more than a 4-5 year contract, regardless of the player. But I think a lot of that is just Zito shellshock.
8 years? For all I know you could be dead in 8 years.
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 5, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#padres person said late thursday they wouldnt field more offers for a-gon if deal with #redsox fell thru, as it has. we’ll see.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Mobile Lube Express?
Blasphemy on a Giants site. Speedy Oil Change and Tune Up forever!
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by Murray, Present on Dec 5, 2010 11:59 AM PST reply actions
Ta
Ta
Ta
Tap Plastics!
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when it's time for a change
Some say that some cannot say because the Stig can make some not say what they want to say and all i want to say is i don't know what the hell i'm trying to say.
LOL OAKLAND
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Adrian Beltre has indicated in comments desire to play elsewhere, Oakland focused on other players; appear out of beltre bidding altogether.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
he probably realizes that ballpark would be death for him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He has also made several comments recently about enjoying playing in front of a packed house.
I thought the timing of the comments was death to an Oakland offer but he needs them for leverage. He must have found another suitor to replace Oakland so he doesn’t even need to bother acting like he would sign there.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
we're talking about Mark Reynolds
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What about Kevin Appier?
You forgot to comment about Kevin Appier, Grant.
In the mid-late 1990’s, one could not look at a Giants/baseball-related blog/rumor website without discovering that he was on the verge of being traded to the Giants.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 5, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions
i got chopped
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL YOU
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Wait, this is in direct contrary to his earlier tweet
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Makes sense for Oakland to walk away from beltre, because he has repeatedly ignored their offers. Might as well focus on interested players
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
In his previous tweet he said that Oakland was interested in other players and were out of the bidding.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
“BEEEEEEp”
“Yeah, Adrian, Billy Beane again. Not sure if you got my voicemail yesterday. Or the one on Friday. Or Thursday. Or every other day since Halloween. Anyway, we’ve decided to go in another direction. Hope there’s no hard feelings. Give me a call if you want to hit some golf balls or something after Christmas.”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
That's a lot like Sabean's machine last winter
“Hey Brian, did you get our message about trading Lincecum and or Cain that we left? We really think you guys are close to being a competitor and could win your division if you get more offense. We still have Ned’s cell number and that used to be the best way (to fleece) get ahold of you but Ned doesn’t work for you anymore. If there is another number were we could reach you at, it would be helpful. Thanks.”
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
by The Czar on Dec 5, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ROLMAO
yes, this did.
/tips cap
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
rolling on lawn making an omelet
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I’d like to apologize to everyone for yesterday’s “Adrian Gonzalez has been traded to the Red Sox” fan shot as it was obviously inaccurate. I expect Grant to do the same.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
Gonzo not going to the resox. Too bad. I didnt think they got a very good package for him. It would have been a very good trade for us
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Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions
I think Gonzalez is stupid not to take 6 years
If he has a down year next year he’ll be lucky to get close to what he was just offered. We are probably talking guaranteed money of at least $120M.
I think the deal still gets done. Both sides are just posturing now. If the Sox really don’t want to give him the 8 years guaranteed then all they have to do is up the $$$ on the 6-year deal and add a 7th year option with performance targets.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
If it’s true that Gonzo turned down the deal because he wanted eight years instead of six, he’s taking a really big risk. Assuming it’s six years 120 million, he’s still set for life. Now he runs the risk of a career ending injury. Someone who just had shoulder surgery this offseason should be smarter than that.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
JAYSON WERTH TO NATIONALS???
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/werth_close_to_signing_with_na.html
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Talk about coming out of no where...
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Because trade rumors are NEVER wrong! :^)
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
well
if he’s not going to the AL, that’s as good a place as any.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
So ummmm would this leave a ummm hole in the Philly outfield? ‘Cuz I uh, know of someone they could have. Shucks, he’s even played in Philly before… < nudge nudge, wink wink >
is she sporty say no more say no more
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by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
It took me about ten seconds of confusion to realize you weren’t talking about Burrell.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I am thinking more along the lines of Rowand
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
by Cant_buy_a_run on Dec 5, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
/ snickers
What the heck is going on in DC? Terms and condistions could make this very umm intresting.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
7/126
Werth got a Zito contract!
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
For What it's Werth
This year’s Rowand Deal of the Year goes to…
They are paying him until he is 38. Wow… Three, maybe four years where he is even close to worth that, then production off the cliff. Those last three years will be Rowand-esque.
Carl Crawfords payday just went up! Congrats Carl!
At least Werth gets on base. I doubt he’s going to lose that skill. Rowand maxed out for walks at 47…. Werth has topped that four times, and once as a part time player. He nearly beat it again during the 2007 season (44 walks) despite only playing in 92 games. I think he’ll maintain value better than Rowand.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Posted this in the fanshot but it bears repeating
Sandy Alderson on the Jayson Werth signing: "Makes some of our contracts look pretty good.
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Dec 5, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Are we positively sure there's no way we can sign Dwight Howard???
I really like that guy! I find him delightful.
The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
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I got you, no worries.
CAIN 4 HOWARD!!!
The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 5, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
@SI_JonHeyman Werth gets 7 year deal from #nats
The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL
Get ready to hear it constantly for at least the next week.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I’d hate to see a news article titled “Jason: Werth Every Penny.”
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
Jason Werth: Worth Every Penny, Worth Less, or Totally Worthless?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
Naw
Mrs penny is way better to look at.
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.
“Is he Werth it?”
“Werth their while?”
Nats give huge deal to ex-Phillie OF. Is Jayson Werth werth $126M? Our experts investigate.
It would have been awesome if Texas signed him, so he could play his home games in Dallas/Ft. Werth.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Dec 6, 2010 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Whoa, 7 years?
Sounds Zeet’s-ish (Boras client too).
Wonder if there’s one of those creative vesting options for year 8 too.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
how much per year?
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
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by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
No word yet
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 5, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
That's total
Not per year. $126M per year would be a bit of an overpay.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Are you sure?
We are talking Washington D.C. here, where money is never an issue or if it is they can just print some more.
i imagine even giantpain wouldn't be into that
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I could see a way to defend it
If we assume that there’s some heavy inflation going on that might continue into the future, then maybe a “win” is worth, what 6 million dollars. If we divide 126/6, we get 21 wins that Werth would have to be worth over 7 years to earn the money.
In other words, if we assume big inflation in the market, then Werth only has to average 3 WAR/year to be worth his contract.
But that’s a lot to assume – both in terms of the inflation and in terms of his ability to sustain production.
I wouldn’t do this deal, but I understand why the Nats think he might be worth it.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I mean they had to seriously overpay... who else do they have in 2011?
and I mean that literally.. who else is playing for the Nationals in 2011? Zimmerman, Diamond, and, um, the dude sitting in Lower Box, section 11?
I did go to a Nats game last year (was in town, they were playing the Dodgers, gave me a chance to boo the bums), the stadium is generic but not too bad, the fans seemed nice enough, and the prices weren’t bad… at least they’re trying to build something/
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
I wouldn't go that far
They do have Strasburg, who is one of the 2-3 best rookie pitchers I, probably you, and arguably anyone alive has ever seen, and Harper is an uber-prospect.
in 2011?
I doubt Strasburg (injury) or Harper (just drafted) will play for the Nats next year, so I’m saying that 2011 will be a seriously tough draw for the team… but seriously, who else is going to play for them?
They need someone for their program cover aside from Zimmerman, so highly overpaying for someone actually makes some sense.
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Harper might be up in September. May not play a lot but he’ll be up.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Jason Marquis says hello

Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
by j14 on Dec 5, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Big picture is big
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
WALK-OFF WALK!!!!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
GAME CHANGER!
“I’m bored with dominoes, guys, let’s play cards for a while instead.”
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Wow.
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nats should still add pena. darkhorse nl east contenders?
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions
They’ll probably deal Willingham for pitching and hope both Zimmerman and Strasburg are fully healthy in 2012.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Nah
Only plays 1B, and he’s not good enough to make me want to force Belt off positions.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Ooooh
I think he’s interesting, good candidate for a bounceback year. I wonder if he’ll take a 1-year deal to re-establish value a la Beltre
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
if Huff left, he would have been my choice for 1B rebound candidate.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
i like it. that way, being across the bay, we can keep tabs on him, but if he totally fails, at least it’s not on us, hahah
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
I wonder if Beane really has a plan, or if he just official stopped giving a shit. His soccer team is doing very well.
That could be more a reflection of Moore than Beane
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Which reminds me
What is the Rays’ plan? I know they had the best record in the AL last year, but they lost 3 good players (Pena, Soriano, and Crawford), and they’re not trying to sign anyone. Jennings should be good, but he almost certainly won’t even make up for the loss of Crawford, let alone all three.
/ mutters
" Move ov N.J. so can have money enough to keep their talent?"
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
MLBTR had a report yesterday
That Boras was asking for a ton of money from him.
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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10 years, 200 million…
Long as it isn’t us…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
/ pageing Agent Ned...
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
There are still at least 4 or 5 teams with a good chunk of money to spend and only 2 or 3 big free agents left. I see a lot of overspending coming up, maybe Sabean should be congratulated on getting all his work done early.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Let us be honest
Any time Sabean is not active looking to run teh ship into icebergs we are pleased.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
I’m flying! Jack! Jack, I’m flying!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 5, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/Boras digs out Zito contract for markup
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Nah
/Werth traded for Zito in 2013
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
That would be a bad deal for the Giants
Assuming Werth declines
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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True, but 2013 is also Ryan Zimmerman’s contract year and they may have to decide whether to not extend him or start cutting payroll. That’s also Strasburg’s first arb year (his contract goes through 2012).
Just a possible theory, but mostly a snide joke in practice and will likely never happen.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
The Nationals owners are legitimate billionaires
I think people in baseball are discounting the possibility that they don’t care at all about efficiency, and they’re about ready to start buying all sorts of players, no matter the cost.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Ah yes, The Gene Aurty Plan for the 70s Angels!
May he Rest in rest.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
IMO they should've spent this money extending Werth
Maybe even give him the Tulo deal
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Oh, Zimmerman
I just saw my typo
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Cliff Lee is going to make so much money
by haroldansivakumar on Dec 5, 2010 2:13 PM PST reply actions
The Crawford/Lee signing are going to be absurd.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Ssory Doc
Can’t even get Cody Ross out when it counts.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
LOL everyone overspending
“If the Giants won the championship, we can too!”
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 2:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
If the Nats were smart...
They’d make a move for Greinke now too. They need an ace and they have some pieces they can move like Desmond, Willingham, some of their Catcher depth etc.
What will become of Owen Wilson?

The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
When did Eric Byrnes play for the Nationals?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
it's in that movie with him, paul rudd and ... reese witherspoon maybe?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/nods
Also, Jack Nicholson
The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 5, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
And someone told me reese plays a professional softball player...
there are professional softball players?
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Yes there are, and CSN used to show them after Giants games once in a while. FP and Greg Papa and all the new postgame stuff couldn’t have been more timely. Hooray for extended programming!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
I saw the commercial for this movie and wondered why he was playing for the Nationals.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OT: Yosemite...
After 8 years of going to Yosmite, at least once a year, sometimes 3 times a year. We finally saw a freakin BEAR today!!
On our way out of the park whilst complaining “Another trip and no bears, I don’t believe there are any bears here AT ALL!!!”
Cool! On a whim I took a drive toward the Smokies today, but the traffic there is a nightmare, so I didn’t to the park itself. I did see some bears hanging around a dive bar back in Knoxville, though.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
This time of year, the place is jammed up with tourists. I got as close as Sevierville (still some distance away) and bailed because it was only going to get worse from there. But I drove a return route that took me up to the park where the Tennessee Smokies play. Looking forward to spending some time there next summer.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Oh, yes. In droves from many states on the Eastern Seaboard. I saw car tags from all over today.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
yeah, it was well padded…
Everybody always says how easy it is to see bears there, and we’ve never seen a one. Liars!!!
Of course by the time we found the cameras all we managed to get were blurry pictures of the bears fuzzy butt….
We used to see one or two every summer out by Upper Pines nr. the stables, but we haven’t done the summer trips in about a decade.
I have an incredibly long bear story which took place inside Tenaya Canyon. Yes, we went hiking in Tenaya Canyon, because we were young and stupid.
Long story short, the momma bear and baby bear got most of our food while we went swimming in the river. We even had it tied up in a tree, but that damn baby bear climbed it and got it. Then momma bear ate my socks.
The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS
We saw them every trip we made in the 70s
Stayed in camping sites and the bears would come every night to raid the trash cans. I suspect they have bear proof trash cans (Cubs LOL) these days so maybe there are fewer to see.
One year we saw 5 in a weekend; never on any other trip. But made me a believer in slow-driving in the park.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Saw one on a hike in South Tahoe in early November last year.
Last week we were at Heavenly and the guy who drove our horse sleigh said he’d seen a bear on the 25th. I thought that was pretty late, too.
San Francisco Giants, 2010 World Series champions.
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 5, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I run into them almost every time I go to Yosemite
I woke up one night in Glen Aulin next to one who was inspecting my pack.
Hiking up Donovan Canyon and fording the Dana fork the big old bear was in the middle of the ford looking not too happy to see me.
In the old Valley Camp 4 (the climber’s camp now called Sunrise or something) there was the bear who wouldn’t leave us alone. We finally threatened the NPS that we’d fix it a drain-o and peanut butter sandwich unless they removed it. They did. They airdropped it way up north in the Sawtooths wilderness. It was back four days later.
Cutting across the A & B campsites at Tuolumne Meadows to the old CCC bathrooms I jumped over a log and landed on a sleeping bear—who ran in total panic.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
You jumped on a fucking bear!? Scary.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
That's about what I've done a couple of times.
I’ve had a couple of close calls where I didn’t think they were bears until they were much too close. One time I was out fishing and I had waded out into the river in about 3 feet of water and was pretty focused on the fishing and didn’t notice the mother bear and her cub coming down to the river for a drink. I started splashing around in the water to get her to leave once I saw her, because it was either that or try to swin across the deep part of the water. She really took her time turning around and leaving too. Most of the time once they see you they take off like a shot, but this one took her sweet time. It’s amazing how fast they are on a full run.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
Maybe the splashing didn’t have the normal effect that noise would, unlike banging pots and pans or whatever else one does to get them to turn away.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
We go to Tahoe 1-2 times a year, never seen any bears up there. We saw a yellow bellied marmot up north of Graeagle once.
Try the summer time. There are tons. I read some SF Gate thing earlier this year that there were like 40,000 Black Bears in the region and the #’s are climbing.
I lived in Carson for 14 years…I spent what amounted to a couple a months a year in Tahoe…and I NEVER saw a bear. Same goes for the rest of the Sierra mountains.
You know they’re supposed to be there…but they never seem to turn up where you can see them.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I’m thinking that it’s in their best interests to not be seen by humans.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
espcaily when carrying pic-a-nick baskets!
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
That sure isn’t how they see it.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
when i was a kid we always saw bears in Tahoe, esp on campsites that border the lake
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
er, the campsites that border the lake in between Truckee and the South Shore, along that curvy windy road that connects N+S.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Weird. I heard all sorts of stories, but never saw one.
Saw my first bear this last summer actually in Glacier NP. It was a cub up a tree at the side of the road. Got a couple of pretty good pictures too, thought it would have been nice to have a better camera.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Go to Lassen, specifically the “City” of Mineral. You will see quite a few bears.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Virginia's Blue Ridge Mountains had bears
that got into the campers’ garbage every night. What they lived on the rest of the year, I don’t know.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 5, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wait… You want to see bears? Any time I go camping I pray for a lack of bears.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 5, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
plus one-oh-nine
Bears are big, hungry, and dangerous. I’d rather see a barracuda while snorkeling.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Meh
They’re just another wild animal. Chances are you aren’t in trouble unless you do something stupid.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
They’re real darn big. They don’t scare me, but.. they’re real darn big.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
As one who’s seen both I much rather prefer the bear. Barracuda’s could quite possibly be the ugliest animals I’ve ever seen.
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
As far as I know no barracuda has ever learned to feed off diver food supplies, not to mention off divers. Bears adapt a whole lot better to humans and the opportunities they present. And I kinda think barracudas are pretty, in a toothy sort of way, but then I think the same about moray eels and their ugly mugs, so I am probably a bad judge here.
by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
So ...
Was the barracuda bare or clothed?
/ ducks…. too late.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Just wait for me to complete my scientific masterpiece: The Bearacuda.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Does it have five asses?
…then I’m not interested.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Well yeah… SEE a bear… not MEET a bear!
There’s a difference between “oh lookie waaaaaaaaay over there a bear!” and “RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!”
Bear jokes!
How do you tell the difference between a black bear and a grizzly?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Climb a tree. If it climbs the tree and eats you, it’s a black bear. If it knocks the tree down and eats you, it’s a grizzly.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Did I ever tell you about the time I tried to go bear hunting?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Close your mouth quickly
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I actually find that literally biting your tongue
Is a good way to avoid laughing in inappropriate situations
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Try Mendenhall Glacier
I took a cruise up to Alaska a couple of years ago and did a quick excursion to Mendenhall glacier. I saw 4 bears in that trip, it was mid september. I too have fuzzy butt pics of bears. One crossed my path not 3 feet from me. All black bears.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
Strange that the first one that you saw was in December. I’ve only see one bear in the valley but have seen a handful in the backcountry. Amazing animals when they aren’t too close for comfort.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
by j14 on Dec 5, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
On to the next big mammal! What’s on the list? Mountain lion? Bighorn sheep?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I saw a Pika once
and it wasn’t on this message board.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I’m like a bear magnet. I’ve had 17 different encounters over the years. I grew up in the Sierras though and would run into them in the damndest places.
I’m okay not seeing any now that I usually have my kids with me if I’m camping.
Trust me, there are plenty out there.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
I’m like a bear magnet.
Insert inappropriate joke here
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I wish I was.
/dreamily stares into space, thinking of Brian McCann
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
:c
im not hairy
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
But the last time I tried comforting you, you freaked out. I can’t keep playing this game with you, Jim.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I’m like a bear magnet.
Insert overly complex joke about magnetic polar bears here.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Oh! I call a bear-related Van Allen Belt joke!
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Damn. All I can come up with is something about the bear driving a Ford Taurus, given that the Van Allen belts are torus-shaped.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Fun fact:
The minotaur may well have been a legend born from a Cretan named Taurus. Nothing can be proven, of course, but there’s a particular variation of the Theseus story that has Theseus besting Taurus in a competition, and resolving a good bit of political tension by doing so. Apparently Taurus had been cozying up a little too close to Pasiphae (Minos’ wife) and was getting a little unpopular. So when Theseus trounced him in combat, he ended up doing everyone (Minos, mostly) a favor. Another version has Theseus killing Taurus during a dramatic escape from the harbor.
Taurus, of course, means “bull” in Greek and is the same root as the last part of “minotaur.” Lots more interesting details, but I was trying to keep this short. (I failed.)
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Man, that joke has the worst punchline I’ve ever seen.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Right? I would have gone with, “Did you hear about the bear that went to college? He was an Ursa Major!”
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
You know, you can keep trying to ruin my life, but someone already beat you to it. Chew on that for a while.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Gosh, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean anything by it. I was trying for self-deprecation, not lashing out at you.
Lately, it seems I always say exactly the wrong thing. I have no idea why.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I honestly don’t know what happened here. I was having fun.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
It’s me. I’m a complete moron. I wasn’t trying to be abrasive. I like you a lot, Howie, and I sincerely apologize.
Cripes, I’m sitting here at my desk and realize I feel just awful about this.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
To be clear, I was never offended or put off. I just thought we were joking with each other. If there was a miscommunication, I’m almost positive it was on my end. Nothing to worry about here. It’s always all fun and games with me, unless of course we’re talking about the inverted W.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
That’s good to hear. I was truly worried I’d yet again said something that had the opposite of its intended effect. I’ll definitely consider my remarks much more carefully in the future. What sounds right in speech often loses meaning in type, and I need to be more aware of that.
I never understood why everyone’s getting so worked up over an M.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Nothing, he’s kind of a little dipper.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
SOMEBODY WILL FIND IT OF INTEREST.
C’mon…anybody?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yet another comment I never expect to see on, say, Gaslamp Ball.
Thanks for bringin’ teh highbrow. I always appreciate it!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
OH MY GOD
BAER IS DRIVING

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by Natto on Dec 5, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I wish you well, Jayson Werth
You were a great White Whale. I got to spend many hours explaining how good you are to people on MCC who insisted on comparing you to Aaron Rowand.
And then, like any good white whale, you went and signed a contract that would have killed me if I had actually gotten it.
I wish you well. Have fun on the Nats. Please play really well against Philly so that all those dumb sportswriters who called you lazy and not-clutch will eat their words.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
What is the max deal you would have taken Werth on?
5 years for 90 mil with a 6th year club option with some sort of buy out would have been my limit
The longer this off-season goes on...
The happier I am that we’re completely out of any major FA signings. This is insane.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I am SO glad we won the World Series in 2010
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
i think this twenty times a day
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
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by Natto on Dec 5, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
From Episode 2 that I'm working on
Totally Didn’t expect this subthread.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The best thing about the Werth deal though
Is that it is the absolute WORST outcome for the Phillies. They lose their best outfielder to a team within their division, which means they’ll have to face him many times this year.
And not just that, but the Nationals have a PROTECTED first round pick – which means that the Phillies only get a sandwich pick and a 2nd rounder in the next draft as compensation for losing Werth.
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Seriously
What If we paid 16 million dollars of the deal and they gave us some mediocre prospect..
Couldn’t they use a righty platoon for Brown and Ibanez?
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
ok, so Gonzo deal fell thru and Werth didn’t go to the AL, and instead is staying in the NL?
TO THE NATIONALS??!?!? crazy
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so that works out to, um… $18mil a year? higher than i thought it would be… and the Nationals could be a very good team in 2012
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does that mean the Nats will take Zito for Werth? after all, they’re both $18mil men
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im sure thats why they signed him to that deal. just so they can trade for zito.
No relation to Shawn Chacon. I promise.
Boras backs up his clients so much, PROMISES you they are worth the money, so in theory he shouldn’t have a problem trading two contracts of the same value.
Wait, what? oh, one SUCKS and the other is really good? snarky shark. I like the new MLB rule, can’t change your agent when you hit FA without hearings to prevent this shit. I hate Boras. He fucked us on Rowand and Zito
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Rowand and Zito......
THE GIANTS ARE WS CHAMPS. THE GIANTS ARE WS CHAMPS. THE GIANTS ARE WS CHAMPS.
No relation to Shawn Chacon. I promise.
point well taken.
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I don’t think Boras had anything to do with the Rowand deal. I only seems like it.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
he wasn’t Rowands agent too?
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Craig Landis was, and still is his agent.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
He won the Tour De France!
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Man I was so crushed when Floyd failed that test.
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"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 5, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
I was the only person who knew who he was in my Sport Nutrition class
Also, I have my final in that class tomorrow
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Yeah, cyclings not real popular. I saw him in the Tour de California. He was in my town. I root for the Prince of Luxembourg now though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 5, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Where’s the irony?
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EXACTLY.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Isn't it ironic don't you think?
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It's like RAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNNN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY!
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
Now I don't even want Crawford though
Not when he’ll obviously be getting some sort of insane 8 year/150 million deal
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My gut tells me that he goes to Los Angeles and Yankee fans have a tantrum.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
To the Angels, I should clarify.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OC Angels
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
don't call them that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I wonder what the OgC has to say about this.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Boston doesn’t throw a bunch of money at him now that Werth is off the market and Gozalez trade fell through.
My gut also tells me that Boston will find a way to make that deal happen.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I think Crawford is just a backup plan for the Yankees if they don’t get Lee.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 2:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i dont think we were ever getting him anyhow.
you can take your pick between Crawford now or losing one of Timmeh/Wilson/Cain/Sanchez/Posey/Bum later.
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I would not be stunned if he got 10 years
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Am I the only one who thinks Crawford isn’t close to worth it? I get that he does a lot of things well, but I have a hard time accepting a corner OF with a 107 career OPS+ (or 113 if we remove his first two years, which we probably should) being treated like elite talent.
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I agree with you but if you a “bubble” teams young position players with this track record and season or 2 before 30 just don’t pop up that often and any more.. say 2 every 3-4 years.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Strange but signs point to yes.
The Gospell of TINSNAP has spread far and wide. Even it’s unbielvers accknowledge it.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
/ cues up old madana song
I forgot you spell correctly.
/ bows head
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He is being overrated
If he had more patience he’d be worth it, but he could end up being a 4th OF fairly soon into the deal
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almost, surely 90% of Crawfords value is in his legs.
when he ages, I don’t think he’s gonna be vaunted, but he’ll be making big money
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And his amazing defense
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people always say this
but players like Crawford (and Ichiro, etc) usually age better than players who aren’t fast and athletic.
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I think it’s the legitimately 5-tool players that age better than the lumbering oafs of the world.
If Crawford loses his speed, which is supposedly the first thing to go, he doesn’t have a lot of power or patience to fall back upon.
I admit, though, that this is pretty anecdotal. I’d like to see a study.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Do they? I’ve been hearing this for years, but I don’t remember reading anything about it.
It would make sense that A) athletic players age better than non-athletic ones, and B) all-around player age better than one-tool ones – so I get why Crawford should be a better bet than Ryan Howard, for example. But I can’t really see why he would be a better bet than someone like Werth – who is also a pretty good athlete, and whose main skills (power and patience) age better than Crawford’s (speed and contact).
Well, I wasn’t trying to compare him to Werth – I agree with what you say about him – I just think saying that Crawford’s going to be a 4th OF soon because “once his legs go, he’s worthless” is ridiculous.
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I don't think he'll be a 4th OF once his legs go
I think it will be more related to a lowered contact rate
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Do you (or anyone) have any links regarding how certain types of players age? I’ve seen this thing about speedy players aging well a million times (I might have mentioned it a few times myself), but never with any evidence.
I have a book that describes this in detail. Though I ’ll be damned if I know which one it is.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
let me know if you figure it out. I was about to do some investigations of my own, and it would be nice to know about some pitfalls before I get started.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I am starting to doubt that I read it in a book I own. I may have read the article or debate in the famous Tango v. Bradbury debates of early 2010, or on THT…..
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, Tango concluded that they age similarly.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
Whoops. I thought you were trying to argue that Tango said the opposite.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
To summerize
Power and contact peak in the late 20’s, BABIP and SB peak in the early 20’s, and BB rates basically never stop improving.
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Steve Finley comes out of retirement.
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"People are getting the message, the right people are getting it, but the people we want to further attract, or make sure we hold onto, are being affected by what we consider the lunatic fringe. That's my frustration, that they don't have a bigger view of the world." - Brian Sabean
But if there's a smart team out there that needs a corner OF
They should immediately contact the Nationals and try to trade for Mike Morse. He hit .289/.352/.519 for half a season with the Nats in RF, and could use a team that will give him a full-time shot.
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He’s one of those SS/3B/1B/RF types that so many teams are looking for….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Weird numbers on this guy.
Has played a total of 110 games in the outfield… And he’s 28. 72 of those games came last year.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Lost his entire 2008 season to injuries
But his recent minor league numbers were good, and his ML numbers obviously are as well.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Morse is versatile, so they still have no reason to give him up. Also, Sabean is looking for a lefty bat, not another righty.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 3:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Everybody, if you're going out today...
please be careful. There’s been a ton of car accidents due to the rain-slicked roads.
I don’t want to have to come cut you out of your car, so be safe.
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I'll be sure to remember that when i drive back from Ohio in 3 or 4 weeks
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you’re driving across the country? man, what a long ride.
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I've done that like 5 times
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OT
Congrats to you, pika on your football team.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So it’s finally started raining there? We left Yosemite earlier than we wanted to cuz we looked at the weather forecast last night.
So... it's gonna be snowing pretty hard in Yosemite?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I mean… it might snow in the mountains when it’s raining in the Bay Area
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Yosemite weather for tonight:
Snow showers. Showers…windy…colder. Snow accumulation up to 21 inches. Snow level 6000 feet. Lows 30 to 40 at 5000 feet… 18 to 28 at 8000 feet. South winds 25 to 30 mph with gusts to around 60 mph.
Glad we aren’t going to be driving in that.
Tahoe sometimes gets a lot of snow. Not this year it won’t (la nina), but I remember ’82-3. Yikes.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
On the Valley floor we had about 6-8 inches of snow, probably 12-14 inches at higher elevations. We stayed on the Valley floor this trip.
Jeeze... i mean, we got 3 inches here yesterday and i thought that was
a good amount… damnit Merope, i’m gonna actually miss it here
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i mean, Cincy or San Francisco.... anybody want to comment?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I think where you guys are now might answer that
But i mean, Cincy is OK, i enjoy it
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no comment. no need to put down CIN
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PiKA!!!
I saw the ending of the miami OH game on Thursday i think it was, crazy freakin ending. ball tipped off defender on 4th and 24 for 30yds, then a 40 yd play?
totally was telling my buddy “oh i know this dude whos probably stoked right now”
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Oh my god, you have no idea, i was jumping up and down from being on the ground, because i was so depressed on that 4th and 20 play, then Boucher just throws a prayer
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incredible play. incredible. I dont think i’ve ever seen a sequence like that go down.
then, to top if off, i thought they were just gonna tie it with a FG, then a short post route turns into a 40yd TD.
incredible ending. i only saw the 4th quarter though
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where’d you stay in the valley? I love Camp Curry&the little cabins. and the ice rink.
and the Awhanee is sick, but never stayed there
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Yeah, we can’t afford the Ahwanee, we stayed at the Lodge this time. Off season rates aren’t horrid.
Ahwanee is pretty expensive, for sure. The Lodge is nice, and is close to all the food. as a kid i used to love having to take the bus through the snowy fields to the Lodge to eat.
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We had dinner at the Awahnee for my dads birthday. It was $50 per person
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 5, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
True story: I have never been to Yosemite. But I swear that will change next year.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Go between October and early May. Unless you like mob scenes, bumper to bumper traffic, nasty stinky bathrooms, and wall to wall tourists.
LOL, noted. We’ll probably go in March. How far in advance do we need to make reservations for the tent cabin thingies?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Ooops, make that April. March is reserved for spring training.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
If you want a nice heated tent cabin, which I’d suggest… the worst snow we ever experienced there was in late April, early May. I’d start looking now. Reservations go fast, we got our lodge reservations back in June! They take reservations up to a year in advance.
Don’t get the Curry Village tents after October 1. I’ve stayed in them when it snowed, and when it was 35 and raining which of course was worse. But October weather is almost always fantastic.
We never, ever get Lodge reservations because I think they all get snapped up within days of availability. Curse you meropes!
There are hard-sided cabins in Curry that are heated and that’s where you want to be.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
Visit the Valley in winter
The High Country in summer. There are an amazing number of people who don’t even know that there is anything other than Yosemite Valley in the park. The High Country up the Tioga Road is amazing.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Ah, yes. Good ol’ arsenic-based DNA.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
That was a crazy discovery.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
i've heard Acid is a hell of a trip too
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NO WAY!!! AND IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD!!
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Try the brine. Local delicacy.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
is there a TWSS hall of fame?
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TWSS!
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TWIS!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
You beat me to it
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TWHS!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
its been pouring for a while now, no minor flooding yet, but the forecast doesn’t look great
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I smugly ignored this
until I realized the next bus I need to get across town will be in 58 minutes. Hooray for MUNI! Or at least hooray for computer maps that keep me from standing in the rain for an hour.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Giants should still go after Cliff Lee, SCREW IT, they’ll have an even better pitching staff than before
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you don't know me very well
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So did Sabes start the over paying trend or anticipate and get ahead of it?
Huff and Burrell are looking like bargains.
Crazy like a fox is coming to mind.
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well Burrell is a bargain in any universe
by The Franchise on Dec 5, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
They do seem to be a pair, so is Huff slipping Pat money under the table?
Come’on… I just cashed in… just stay with me so I can hug you in the dugout. That’s all I’m askin…
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Me neither.
Also, at this rate even Tejada is looking like a bargain…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I dunno...but I'm glad it happened now...
This was a good year to win the World Series. Its looking like every single team trying to make a “splash” in this years FA market is going to get screwed.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Rowand is the only one that bothers me.
Zito, was the right idea. Bonds is gone, the future is coming in pitching, get a top pitcher to build around. The anchor for all the kids. Too much money, too many years for a pitcher, but OK it seems in plan.
Rowand doesn’t fit the plan. The plan was go young. Too many years for the wrong player.
Grow a couple of kids for offense, trade some pitching for a few. The Giants have a pitching factory.
All of the gritty vets are placeholders or interchangeable. Some you get for a bargain, some you pay for. Do not get attached to any of them.
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the Zito deal makes sense if he’s a top pitcher, which he wasn’t.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not even then. You always build around a star position player. Pitchers arms fall off.
by wcw on Dec 5, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I too was in the huh? camp
But I could see the Sabean logic in it.
I remember thinking, ok that’s younger… at least he isn’t AARP, but I thought you meant really younger.
I think we had the “guy to build around” (Bonds) but now the cupboard was bare. HERE LOOK SHINY THINGS! , Maybe they won’t notice if we substitute Barry for Barry….
The strategy is clear now, build a stable of arms. Get Zeets to be the flagship while you build in the others. I doubt even in Brian’s most wet dreams did he envision Timmy being Timmy. It was the over pay of over pays, but I think it was a money where your mouth is situation.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
OMG
what do we do NOW!?!??
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
When agent Ned left.
I’m convinced that Agent Ned was the bad man on Sabean’s right shoulder with Magowen and his man crushes on the left shoulder, both feeding him bad advice.
It seems like the FO has been way better in every way since both left.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
Wow, didn't think of it like that.
Maybe there was 3 way tension making sure every decision was half wrong.
I am going to have to chew on that idea a bit.
Now you have AJP and Dminor in my head.
Makes ya wonder who’s idea was who’s.
You look at Agent Ned, and what he has done and it sure looks a lot like mid decade Giants. Manny, Pierre, Schmidt. Hmmm.
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Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Everything I read from that time period
made it sound like Sabean was a huge delegator of power and let Ned make a lot of contact with other clubs and decisions. We all know that Zito was Magowen.
It just seems like Sabean went back to good ol’ fashion scouting and internal development after they left. When was the last major trade?
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Meh
I mean that trade was huge for us but we are the Fringe. We watch the games 5 times or more a week spent coffee breaks rereading box scores and looking at monthly BIPBA.
As baseball move in general I would sya that was more tweak than a major move if the Giants weren’t my team.
/ shrugs.
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Nah
According to BBall-Ref, Pat has made roughly twice as much money as Aubrey over the course of their careers. I’m sure Pat is set.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Huff has only made $35 million over 10 years?
Cause I remember an article recently that said Pat had make $70mil in his career
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
He said "roughly"
According to BB-ref, Pat has made $69M and Huff has made almost $38M (MLB slaraties through 2010)
I’m guessing Pat had a bigger signing bonus being the #1 pick and all
The thong is, it happened.
Just barely missed a putt in sudden death against MacDowell
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
MacDowell sank 2 putts from about 25 feet on the 18th (back-to-back) to first force a playoff and then win it. Clutch.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Clutch? I say SSS
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Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
dude's got ice in his veins
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Banged a hooker on 14.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 5, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Read that as “Banged a hooker at 14”. Thought that was kind of young.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I read it like that too
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
LOL Cowboys
blew a 14 pt lead in 2:00 or less to Manning&Co.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Some of the official statements (boilerplate BS and propspeak) from the Werth deal
Werth’s deal was negotiated by agent Scott Boras, who also negotiated big-money agreements with the Nationals for the last two No. 1 picks in the amateur draft, pitcher Stephen Strasburg in 2009 and catcher-outfielder Bryce Harper this year.
“We think he’s going to be a big piece of the puzzle,” Rizzo said. “We certainly have more holes to fill. We had more work to do, and we’re certainly aggressively going on from here and beyond.”
“For Jayson this was a decision where he certainly wanted to know that this was a place that was not only going to take every step possible to sign young players in the draft, as they’ve exhibited, but also take steps a core system in the minor leagues and also take further steps and advance in the free-agent process so that he could be surrounded by quality major leaguers in addition to those already present in the Nationals organization,” Boras said.
Nationals manager Jim Riggleman, who didn’t know the deal had been finalized until just before it was announced. was the Dodgers bench coach while Werth played for Los Angeles.
“We got the inside scoop on who the man is and who the person is,” Rizzo said. “Jim is a great judge of character and clubhouse presence. He was very flowery in his praise in Jayson on and off the field. He feels, like I feel, Jayson’s best days haven’t been had yet.”
That last bit seems almost word-for-word what Magowan said about Zito.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5888329
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
"Winning is overrated"
says Werth. “Too much pressure. Easier to play for a 100-loss team”
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Someday
All GMs will have a realistic notion of how performance varies with a player’s age. We are not there yet.
what ?
No mention of quality schools for his spawn children?
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Is this the puzzle they're trying to assemble?

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I guess the 2012 Nationals could be good
No team out there has a more talented quartet than Zimmerman/Werth/Strasburg/Harper.
Lincecum/Posey/Cain/Wilson
Although I love Zimmerman, I’d rather have our four than their four.
Three of our guys are all-stars, the other is a Rookie of the Year; one has two Cy Youngs, all four still have their best years ahead… their four are two all-stars, and two guys with potential to be great. I feel we have Cabrera to their Maybin/Miller.
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Strasburg doesn’t have the potential to be great, he is great. The only question is health. Harper is obviously a question mark, but he’s a truly elite prospect.
Interesting question
would you rather have the wildcard of a pitcher with GREAT potential (Strasburg has started a total of 12 major league games) who is currently hurt or a pitcher with two cy youngs, a world championship, but four years older and already costs eight figures a year?
And I definitely believe Posey>Harper, now or five years from now.
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Dodgers fans eat their young.
We could say that Lincecum = Zimmerman, Posey = Harper, and Werth = Cain (which, at least overall, I think is fair), but Strasburg is just better than Wilson. Wilson is great, but his impact as a closer is limited, and he’s not particularly young at 28. Strasburg’s rookie season was historically great (2nd best K rate for a rookie with 60 IP in baseball history; 2nd best K/BB too), even if it was short, and his stuff is just unbelievable.
So is/was Mark Prior.
health is a HUGE question mark, especially when your mechanics are as F’d up as Strasburgs coupled with his velocity and pressure on his elbow.
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Unfortunately
Wheeler’s mechanics are much closer to Strasburg/Prior’s than to a Cain or Lincecum. For those of you that study mechanics, Wheeler scares the shit out of me. His inverted W and timing is very bad. The sooner the Giants package him, the better IMO.
I know that a lot of posters on here will disagree or get attached to the prospect, but the Giants getting early value on Wheeler will be a good thing.
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I’ve heard that the dangers of the inverted W is kind of a kineseological myth.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yes. What I mean by kineseological myth is that the inverted W doesn’t represent a significant increase in the dangers inherent to pitching to begin with.
The idea being that somebody said the inverted W was especially bad, and then high-profile pitchers x, y, and z, all inverted W-ers, flamed out, and even though they didn’t actually represent the entire population, they were largely taken to, which then stigmatized the mechanics at large that produce the inverted W.
Anyway, that’s what I’ve heard.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
I get the inverted W

…but what’s wrong with Wheeler’s timing?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
serious question
Why is this called an “inverted W”, rather than calling it an “M”?
An upside down W is an M.
by The Double Deuce on Dec 6, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
The rate of injuries to pitchers that have the inverted W is extreme by any measure. Very few of them have ever gone onto lengthy careers and even the ones that do like John Smoltz have a TJ in their past.
Prominent injuries to guys with the “W” just off the top of my head: Mark Prior, kerry wood, John smoltz, Shaun Marcum, Francisco Liriano, Jeremy Bonderman, Anthony Reyes, A.J. Burnett, Stephen Strasburg, Chris Carpenter. There are many more. All the ones listed here needed Tommy John or some other major surgery.
I’ve traded e-mails with Chris O’leary about the W and tried to come up with one guy that showed it and had a lengthy career and the only one anyone could list (I directed it in a forum discussion) was Tom Glavine. The only guy right now that has been very durable is Adam Wainwright.
I think O’leary is on to something here and O’leary may have played a large part with our 2010 World Series Champions as he helped Torres retool his swing as documented in this SI article..
It’s not just a myth in my view after looking for extensive examples to both prove and disprove the theory. Wheeler is extreme.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
Maybe the Giants have reworked his mechanics since last time I watched him, but when I watched a frame by frame about a year and a half ago it sure looked like there was a lot of stress on that shoulder and elbow.
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Strasburg’s for reference.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
Maybe this should be obvious but does the angle of the inverted W indicate more or less stress? If you compare these pics of Wheeler and Strasburg, it looks like Wheeler has a more exaggerated inverted W, though not as scary as this dude…

Is that a bad thing?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Well, he has already gone from a top pitching prospect to a broken arm.
That is what scares me about wheeler: look at how short Reyes’ stride is in this picture. He is trying to generate all of his power from the upper body. Wheeler was doing that in the frames that I saw. They were from over a year ago though and maybe the Giants have worked with him a little on changing them since then.
The problem with most “w” guys though is they lose their power when they go to different mechanics. The Twins tried to alter Francisco Lirianos’ mechanics after his TJ but he lost velocity as a result and grew frustrated and then went back to the old mechanics. That is part of why he was so bad last season and much better this year.
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Wheeler’s stride looks pretty long in the still above.
by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
The thing is, I’m inclined to believe you, but phrases like “just off the top of my head” and “I directed it in a forum discussion” don’t lend confidence to the idea that these opinions are backed by exhaustive research, and suggest rather strongly that they are based pretty strongly on perception.
I’d love to know the actual rate of injuries to these guys as opposed to the actual rate of injury league wide. That would be a real, compelling defense of the idea.
Like I said, I would love to believe you. And I’m not personally making the argument that the inverted W is a myth. I really don’t know. And I’m not going to champion one side unless somebody actually shows me the numbers.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Then I issue the same challenge
find me guys that have/had it and went on to lengthy careers.
I keep looking.
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I’m not going to waste my time randomly trying to find you 6 guys when the problem I cited was that I want to see exhaustive numbers.
For crying out loud, I said I’m not championing one side or the other.
So for one: you’re not issuing “the same challenge” because I mentioned exhaustive numbers and you mentioned anecdotal crap.
For two: I’m not even challenging you to give me the fucking numbers, so you offering any challenge my direction seems like a load of crap to me.
All I said was that I AM PERSONALLY not going to stand on one side of the line or the other without seeing those numbers. I don’t care if you are going to stand on one side of the line without those numbers. That’s your prerogative.
I’m not claiming that the inverted W is a myth. I am saying I have heard that it is. I have not heard a consensus on the issue. Please don’t act like I’m trying to prove you wrong. I have no fucking idea.
I would certainly appreciate it if one side or the other were proven right with exhaustive research. But I’m not going to fucking do it.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Is the tone really necessary?
I’m just trying to tell you what I know about it, not trying to be an asshole or anything. Didn’t mean to rile you up.
I’m asking for examples of guys that showed this particular trait and went on to lengthy careers.
I would love to see the numbers as well, but I’m just looking for a few examples of guys that didn’t get injured with it and can’t find many.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
Demanding that people FIND PROOF!!! is always going to come off as annoying. Just as a word of advice. Especially if that request for proof is something like, “Go through the history of baseball and find guys with an inverted W who had long careers.” That takes a lot of time.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think, in his defense, it does kind of look like I’m asked him to “FIND PROOF” first. After that, it snowballed a little.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
LOL thinks I read entire threads.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I mean, I wasn’t asking him to, but I can definitely see how it looks that way.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’m sorry that I came off the way that I did then.
I issued it as a challenge becasue it truly is (to find healthy W guys). It’s not something that I just came up with. I’ve honestly spent way more time than I should have looking at pitching mechanics over the years.
Sorry that I came off that way as well.
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And it’s not that I don’t find mechanics and kineseology very compelling. I do. I just really like big numbers.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
TWHS
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No, it certainly wasn’t necessary. I felt like you were challenging me to prove a point that I wasn’t trying to make, and then I went overboard. A combination of miscommunication and a blog-unrelated bad mood reacting poorly together. I hope I’m communicating a bit better now.
I do understand what you’re asking for. I’m just not convinced that, even if I could find a half-dozen, or a dozen guys who fit the criteria you’re after that it would mean anything. It’s just too few people… even the list of people you presented who lost their careers to injury is woefully short in the larger scheme of things. I wouldn’t know what to do with either list of names.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
too much coffee?
nice job deflecting the bile. (I mean it.)
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by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
How would I go about doing that though? look at stills of every major leaguer to see if they have it?
The guys that are showing it are getting hurt at a huge rate. The guys that have had long successful careers like RJ, Clemens, Maddux, Ryan, etc. don’t do it. Much like Tim Lincecum, they use their legs and hips with a lengthy stride to get power instead of their shoulder, back, and elbow.
The good news is that none of the current Giants staff has poor mechanics and that is probably why they have been so durable.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
I’m not asking you to do it. I’m just saying that I won’t take a side without it. I’m not asking you to change your mind. I’m not asking you to convince me. I’m just saying: I’ve heard it both ways without numbers, and neither way satisfies ME, me personally, without numbers.
In a perfect world, somebody who makes baseball their life would go the trouble. It definitely seems like it would behoove them. And it certainly wouldn’t take a prohibitive amount of time for somebody in that position to compile stills of several hundred major league pitchers over the last x number of years. In an imperfect world, nobody will do it, I’ll remain unconvinced, and you shouldn’t worry about the fact of either.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh. Can’t you just ask, I dunno, Missing Barry? Or somebody like that? I want to talk about dinner.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Dinner!
/remembers he had instant noodles; has a sad
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
I had split pea soup.
I also made salsa, which I ate with the help of corn chips.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Omg your chemically burned fingers! That’s right. Aww, maybe your stalkers can soothe them secretly without your knowing.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
On the bright side, they no longer burn. On the dim side, my index finger might not have a print anymore.
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I went to BJs
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Avacado egg rolls.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Here's the thing
that I think could help settle this: WHY are they doing that with their arms? Those mechanics must indicate some specific mechanical advantage they are trying to achieve. Marshalling upper body strength sounds feasible though I don’t know.
Then the question becomes, is everyone doing that W thing trying to leverage the same mechanical advantage and is that a bad strategy? Certainly seems like most athletes want the fulcrum of their mechanics to be driving through their hips.
It might just be the moment those photos are taken, but of the three of them wheeler’s hips are the most balanced, and he appears to be in the best position to drive his follow through with his core.
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by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 6, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to see an actual study on this please
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
Me too.
I had the same thoughts when reading O’Leary’s stuff.
OK…thats 12 guys… cherry picking, interesting, but cherry picking.
I think I believe the theory.
In MLB you have a large data population and should get a good distribution. If you can include the minor leagues, you should even see more as you include all the TJ flameouts that never reach the big leagues.
MLB Pitchers by delivery type. This had to be done to get them in a video game right?
Compare injury rates, DL time, injury severity and career length. This is all tracked data.
This data is somewhere. Any ideas where?
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Clearly Werth didn’t heed the warnings of the curly W.
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If the Giants had another Heir appearnt to bea mid rotation of better starter ...
I would be ok depending on the return with that. The problem we have no idea were TINSNAP will stike next carrying 2-3 alternative options realy is a franchises best defense against that. Last i looked we have like 1 option so …
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I have yet to see a reason why
I should value mechanics above workload, conditioning, genetics, personal pain threshold, age, and muscular strength and endurance. All of these contribute to whether or not a pitcher stays healthy.
Also, in case you haven’t noticed, Cain’s bring his pitching arm elbow above the height of his shoulder when he pitches. Why aren’t you worried about him? Hmm?
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
The best thing
is that even Boras didn’t bother calling other clubs to match the offer. You know when Boras says “Hey, that’s enough money for me,” you just got robbed.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
The World Series DVD is now on sale at Dugout Stores. That is all.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Price? In case I feel like getting it now rather than wait for a mail order.
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$29. I know it’s a lot more than Amazon, but I couldn’t wait either and now that I’m watching it, I’m glad I didn’t.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Three. I posted a summary in the Playoff DVDs FanShot.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Whew. It seemed like there were eight different versions.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
We need moar! One for the NLDS, one for the NLCS, one for the parade, one for Posey’s ROTY…
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yep, but they only had the regular DVD one. Not the Blu-Ray.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Is that Blu-Ray?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Holy crap.
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Total splurge. I’ll wait for the others by mail.
BTW, I was told that “The Magic Inside” won’t be sold at the stores. It will just be available online. Strange given that that’s the Giants’ own production.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I would think the Giants would sell it at the dugout stores. Amazon.com had it but took it down. I guess they were told to remove it from sale.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yeah, I was surprised when they said online only, too. But we heard it from two Dugout Store employees – one at Stonestown, the other at AT&T. Weird.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Odd.
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This would be the third time in the last two months I will go out in driving rain to the Dugout Store to get something I could order online.
definitely considering it.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
you can pay $10 for all the WS games @ iTunes store online, download immediately
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Yes, I know, I have all of them. We’re talking about the World Series movie with Rob Schneider. ROB SCHNEIDER! /swoons
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Makin' History!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 5, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
“I try not to have too much of an ego. I’ll do anything.”
i always though that fit most of us here.
/ shrugs
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Like Ice T when he was asked about appearing in the movie “Leprechaun in the Hood.” He said, “I have a price. You meet that price, and I’ll be in any piece of shit movie that you want me to be in.”
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 4:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
amen
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The Christopher Walken approach
if you ask him to be in a movie, pay him, and he isn’t busy, he says he’ll be in anything because honing his craft and appeasing his fans both have value to him.
And he’s goddamn awesome.
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Dodgers fans eat their young.
Weirdest Christopher Walken role: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEyY6LEUWUw
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
by SFGuy on Dec 5, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If by weirdest you mean best, then yes.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
by j14 on Dec 5, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Also Bob Dylan's approach to accepting gigs
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Like Jayson Werth when he was asked about appearing in the movie "Washington Natinals Take the Field." He said, "I have a price. You meet that price, and I’ll be in any piece of shit game that you want me to be in."
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This needs more Green!
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Damn, Manning
does it again.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
yeah that didnt work out, lol
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Jon Heyman just said the Red Sox are still working on the Gonzalez deal. I guess the Werth deal made Gonzalez’ demands look less outrageous.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 4:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Maybe Werth was their other target and now they’re a bit more desperate to make the A-Gon thing happen?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 5, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
TWKKS
(that’s what Kim Kardashian said)
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 4:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
must be a fire fly reference
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
OT: Makin dinner, marinated strip steak
with Tortellini and peas
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Stuffed green bell peppers (stuffing: orzo, onion, crimini mushrooms) and polenta
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
by j14 on Dec 5, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yum
That sounds so good!
/makes mental note to buy ingredients for that later this week
I’ll be making burritos later as I’m busy re-watching the WORLD SERIES parade on demand right now :)
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
+1
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Nom nom nom
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Sounds great!
I’m going to do gnocchi in a butter sauce or something.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
Yeah, Manning does it again, all right. Another INT.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 4:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions
SABEZ

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Sitting pretty?
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SUSAN: “Sir, I kept calling your extension and you never picked up—-OH MY GOD!”
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Susan was forever haunted by the cold, never-wandering emotionless stare of the woman from computer land
by panda revival on Dec 5, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
does anybody
have the splits between Burrell in the NL and Werth? FA is insane, is Werth really 18 times better then Burrell? lol
You own a Phillies fan? How much do they run?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
They were cheaper before 2008.
But it’s bound to find a lot of cheaper bandwagon imitations in the market.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I tend to agree with Matt Klaassen
devil_fingers Matt K.
One general observation: teams don’t have to overpay because they’re bad, they’re bad because they overpay.#goodlucknats #trusttheprocess
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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OH YEAH
WELL THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
One general observation: teams don’t have to overpay because they’re bad, they’re bad because they overpay
that right there is a self-sustaining entity
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
OT
These press conferences on TV are awful. ESPN is showing Peyton Manning. All I hear is some report go: “jie jkhi fiuhwefih fefi frihrirhifrh rfihi” and Manning answers it. I know it’s about the game but I can’t hear the question
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
WHICH ONE IS IT?
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
A gon is now a red sox
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Deal is done. A gon headed to #redsox. Press conf expected tomorrow
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
is there an extension, and if not, does that change what the Sox give up to get him?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
yeah, i just kept reading downthread… trying to avoid the lux tax by not announcing it til later
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT ONE GUY SAID WE WOULD USE THE URIBE AND ROSS MONEY TO SIGN WERTH!!!!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Apparently would have needed to let like 10 more people go to afford him.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Sabean-logic makes sense this time!
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Jim] Brower, [Scott] Eyre, [Matt] Herges, [Dustin] Hermanson, [Brett] Tomko, [A.J.] Pierzynski, [Pedro] Feliz, [J.T.] Snow, [Jeffrey] Hammonds, [Dustan] Mohr and [Michael] Tucker—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
You mean Huff + Tejada?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Passan is not a fan of the Werth deal
JeffPassan Jeff Passan
The Contract of Death strikes again with Jayson Werth, and the #Nats can only hope it doesn’t end up like the others: http://yhoo.it/fUcKSx
Also: LOL UNFORTUNATE TINY LINK – “FUCKSX”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
RT @SurfingTheMets: Alderson on Werth deal: “I thought they were trying to reduce the deficit in Washington.”
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I hope this turns into a Bill Bavasi/Dave Samson battle
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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LOL
“It makes some of our contracts look pretty good,” Alderson said.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 5, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Alderson is a smart man. But I believe that the words “No Bullshit” apply to him in the unkindest way possible.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
He was a guest on MLB Network's "Hot Stove"
His first order of business has been to launch a media campaign to make it very clear he has inherited a payroll mess not of his own doing. He talked about the bad contracts that need to come off the books before he’ll really be able to spend money how HE wants to.
The thong is, it happened.
Alderson also said that it makes some of his contracts on the Mets look good. LOL Omar Minaya!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 5:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The 2010 World Series Champions aren't regretting shit
The Contract of Death struck again Sunday, and baseball recoiled. Before then, the mere mention of seven years for $126 million drew the most hilarious reactions from baseball executives: guffaws from 28 teams and nausea from the San Francisco Giants and Toronto Blue Jays, who gave Barry Zito(notes) and Vernon Wells(notes) the devilish deal and are regretting it still.
Timmeh (provided he stays healthy) is worth $126mil over 7 years. That may not even be enough- but he’ll only be 28 when we have to sign him, not 31 or w/e Werth is.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
I don’t like the thought of signing anyone to more than five years, even if they’re young.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
This.
But if the choice was to sign Timmy for 7 years or lose him…I might go for the 7 years. I can’t pretend that’s an objective decision though.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I agree that I don’t like to sign more than 5 years, but in Timmehs case, it has to be done. He’s the face of the franchise, multiple Cy Young winner. And like Ceora says- if it’s 7 years or lose him, the Giants don’t have a choice… it has to be done.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
aw

Buster Posey honored at hometown Christmas Parade
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
by GiantsBabe on Dec 5, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Seriously, that just melts my heart. How awesome.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Also, LOL cosmopolitan writers
The Chronicle story reads: “To say Posey comes from a small town would be an understatement. According to numbers from July 2009, Leesburg…has a population of 2,965.”
My hometown had about 800 when I was growing up. It’s close to 1,500 now.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Ugh, out-of-control development and population growth!!!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Actually, I took great pride in the fact that my hometown was the fifth-fastest growing in Alabama from 2000 to 2009. It’s true!
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I grew up in Metro Manila. Nine million people when I was young. Eleven million now.
Sure, it’s a metropolitan area, but it’s like LA. It all just … bleeds together into one vast messy urbanity.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Context certainly changes things. Started my own life in a town with maybe 300, and a general store. Then I hear people call 5000+ a “small town.” Not in my world, buddy. That’s downright metropolitan!
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Right? I moved to a college town of 9,800 when I was working on my bachelor’s, and I felt like I’d really made it in life.
I flipped the fuck out when I visited Kansas City last year.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Man, college towns are awesome.
Except for the students. Best time to live in a college town: summer.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 5, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yes! I liked Jacksonville much more than Tuscaloosa. You’d think the latter would be a college town, what with a college in the middle of it, but it never felt like that. It just felt like an awkward jumble of people and neighborhoods.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
My elementary school in Taiwan had 7000 students
Each class had 50-60 students, and there were 24 classes per grade level.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
o__O
I went to international schools. The typical class size was 20-30 and there were usually about 100-150 kids in each grade.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
yeah it’s still there in Tien Mu. Man I was born in 76 :o
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I was in second grade. There were no private cars on the streets then. All taxis and buses.
by non sequitur on Dec 6, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Why is this kid waving to the people? Oh..that’s Buster.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LEESBURG, GA (AP) — Buster Posey, winner of the 2010 Lee County 4-H essay contest, waves to an eager crowd in the town’s Christmas parade. AP Photo/Peter Parker
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
LOL!
precious
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
SJ Merky was running a story on Torres and Romo in their little Holiday parade too. I’m sure there’s a fanshot/post somewhere.
omg
I just saw pics from the parade—Andres has a beard!
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
I like that he’s wearing a “property of SF Giants shirt.” Yes you are, and will be for your entire career.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 5:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You mean until that 6 year, $200 million deal from the Yankees?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
stop saying that. meanie. youre making me cry
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Posey ain’t going nowhere! I says so.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
for SFGuy’s sake, he better hope not :)
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Well, isn't he cute?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Dawww.
“In addition to serving as grand marshal, Posey was honored by Lee County Chairman Ed Duffy, who declared Dec. 4 as Buster Posey Day.”
town to be renamed
“Poseyburg” after he wins first MVP
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
lol
r_j_anderson To clarify, “lol” story comes from @jonahkeri. MIL asked Epstein for Buchholz in exchange for Hardy. He texted “lol” in response. 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Old story
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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fangraphs comment
walt526 says:
December 5, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Exactly.
The only thing that I like about this contract is that Brian Sabean wasn’t the one who offered it (as Giants fan).
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Cool MLBTR just triple tweeted
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Jeff Sullivan
This has been a trying day in the Beltre household
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Probably the favorites
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Maybe a surprise team. Who is weak at third base?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I could kinda see us as a surprise team
Though I hope we don’t get into the bidding
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Maybe the Cubs. They could move Ramirez to first.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Their payroll would be insanely high, though. They’ve already got over $100M in guaranteed contracts in 2011, and Soto, Marmol, and a few others will probably get $10M-$15M in arbitration.
That's a good point.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No extension yet
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Hearing #redsox satisfied a multiyear deal can be arranged w a-gon. have common ground on parameters. No extension will be announced now.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Someone mentioned they might have extension already, but don’t want to make it official until after the season starts for luxury tax reasons.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 5:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
how does that affect it? I’m gonna go on a limb and figure that Opening Day payroll is what gets hit with that tax?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
From Heyman
Appears #redsox will add about 7 yrs at about $23 mil per to a gon’s $6 mil ’11 salary. But no extension will be announced yet.
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Dear god...
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
in line with teixiera’s 8/180 deal. they’re similar players too
by kingofthacove on Dec 5, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Just catching up on the Werth and AGon news and my reaction to both is…HOLY SHIT. Scary contracts are scary.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
They could pay him $40 mill per season and my reaction would still be: “Thank God he is out of our division”
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, the Giants winning the Series really drove the rest of the sport nuts
We are destroying baseball! SKIP BAYLESS WAS RIGHT!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
SPORTSQUAKE!!!!
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
OT
The bowl in SF is set: according to the listing at ESPN.com: the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl will have Boston College vs. Nevada.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Stanford to the Orange Bowl to face VA Tech.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Congratulations, NCAA, for making the Rose Bowl not just partially, but totally irrelevant. It’s really taken them quite a few years, but this looks like it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 5, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
It stopped meaning anything the year Oklahoma faced Washington St in the Rose Bowl in 2002 (Jan. 1, 2003). Texas faced Michigan 3 years later.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
by SFGuy on Dec 6, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Those were bad, but I think this is the first year where they were required to pick someone other than the Pac-10 champ.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 6:35 AM PST up reply actions
TCU – Wisconsin is irrelevant? One of two bowls that features two top-5 teams?
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
The game is relevant, it just has nothing to do with the Rose Bowl. It could be in Orlando or Tempe.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Mmm Kraft Dinner.
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I feel like BC goes to that one every year
I think I will skip seeing them get massacred by Nevada though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm gonna go to that
UNR Graduate FTW!
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 5, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Me too
(Although I didn’t graduate)
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
Still trying to decide if I am going. Boston College, and the ACC as a whole, bore me to death. But we won’t have another season like this for a long time so I’m leaning towered going. Also, Colin Kaepernick.
Go Wolf Kaps.
by JSing on Dec 5, 2010 10:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
OH MY GOD BEN ROETHLISBER BROKE HIS KNOSE ouch
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Oh my God! How will he ever get a date? Oh I forgot. He doesn’t take no for an answer.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 5:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm so thankful
Mark is our QB
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 5, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Geez, we have two Jets fans here (Rxmeister is one, too)?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Hahahaha,
yeah born and raised a Jets fan. Then watched baseball and fell in love with the Giants
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 5, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Only followed the NFL until the day the Jets drafted Joe Namath out of Alabama. Became a Jets fan the day they signed him. Giants in baseball because of my dad being an NY Giants fan.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 5, 2010 6:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Complete vice versa
Jets fan since birth basically. my Dad was 9 when he watched Namath play, got an autograph helmet by Broadway Joe, and fell in love with the team. When I was born I had a Jets beanie on. Fell in love with the Giants because my step-dad liked them, and I went to my first game and Bonds hit a homer in the water. Been hooked ever since
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Dec 5, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Gah! I thought for sure Stanford was going to be in the Fiesta Bowl and I’d be able to go. Why would a Florida bowl pick them?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Fiesta Bowl is going to be awful. Oklahoma will run over UConn.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Why didn't they send Stanford to the Fiesta? i just dont get it...
who the hell is going all the way to Florida to see Stanford play? UConn has one of the smallest fan bases and they’re putting them in Arizona?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Orange Bowl got to pick before Fiesta, and apparently they wanted the better team.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
whatever... good luck, Uconn game will be pathetic
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Of course, Stanford wanted the Rose Bowl but they took TCU.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Rose Bowl wanted Stanford too. But they had to pick TCU.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
The BCS bowls outside the championship are pretty terrible
Rose Bowl Game presented by VIZIO
Wisconsin vs. TCU Pasadena, Calif.
Tostitos Fiesta
Connecticut vs. Oklahoma Glendale, Ariz.
U. of Phoenix Stadium
Discover Orange
Stanford vs. Virginia Tech Miami
Sun Life Stadium Jan. 3
Allstate Sugar
Ohio State vs. Arkansas
Ohio St. vs. Arkansas is interesting.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So is Wisconsin-TCU.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
yep! so is Miami Ohio vs. Middle Tennessee
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You going to go, pika?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Willie McCovey’s hometown!
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
maybe if he flew me out there
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
don’t know if you want to go to Mobile, AL
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Ordinarily, this is where I’d step in and chastise you for saying that, but I haven’t heard good things about Mobile.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
We were going to drive through there last year, but someone warned us that it might not be such a good idea.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Maybe there is a reason Willie McCovey doesn’t live there anymore.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
But to be fair, a lot of Southern cities have changed with the times. I guess Mobile just isn’t one of them.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Hence why nobody would go that far to see a bowl game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
So Mobile is backwards.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I wouldn’t say that. I think it just functions more like a stereotypical Northeastern city. People who have lived there tell me that’s what it feels like.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Yep, that’s part of what I heard – that good ol’ Southern hospitality was missing in Mobile. But we also got warned about the other thing. Then again, this was in late ‘08, right after Obama got elected so I’m sure that had something to do with it.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Interesting. I was just looking at the numbers, and the city’s population is fairly evenly divided among whites and blacks. And though Obama lost the county, he got four percent more votes than did John Kerry in 2004.
But I’m from north Alabama and have never lived in the Mobile Bay area, so I can’t tell you much about the day-to-day details of the city’s culture.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I think our hosts at the Auburn B&B we stayed at were trying to look out for us (four chicks of different ethnicities) and were maybe playing it safe with their advice. Thanks for presenting a different view.
Hey, I can handle urban, Northeastern-style rudeness!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
THEN SHUT UP
I’m kidding. I once worked for someone from Maine who complained that waitresses down here were nice to her. I never really understood why that was a problem.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Southern manners is second only to Southern food in terms of things I like about the South.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I’ve grown to seriously appreciate our cuisine. There are few things as comforting to me as my grandmother’s cooking when I go back to my hometown to visit.
I’m trying to learn it myself so that I might be able to share it with my kids one day.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Southern wom... oh wait
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
I’m not sure it’s overtly racial. Most of what I understand to be true is that the people are just generally rude.
But then, my college roommate works and lives there and has no real problem with it.
Oh, and “But to be fair…” is the sentence I’ve been writing here for two years. Thanks for pointing it out.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to have two more evenly matched games like OU-Stanford and UConn-Va Tech than two fairly mismatched ones?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Totally. Plus it would be a rematch between Stanford and Oklahoma. It was a good game at the Sun Bowl last year.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
and stanford didn’t have andrew luck in that game
by panda revival on Dec 5, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
It would make more sense to just let the damned Pac-10 champion play the Big-10 champion in the damned Rose Bowl, and if they must have a “national championship game” (LOL OTHER UNDEFEATED TEAM) they should just put the 2nd place team in the damned Rose Bowl. That “major bowl” list above is a mess of awful.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
That would also make sense because you’d have more geographic matchups. If Stanford can find even 1,000 fans to travel all the way to Florida, I’d be surprised.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Tiger Woods lives in Florida. Maybe he could buy several hundred for him and his mistresses.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The hate would have been delectable..
The Dodgers were extremely close to signing A.J. Pierzynski before White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf stepped in, tweets Peter Gammons of the MLB Networ
I like how just saying Peter Gammons isn’t enough. They gotta say there he works.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
He’s a veteran of the great MLB Net War.
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A thousand years ago, the Shadows awoke
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Babylon5 FTW
Sometimes I wish they would add some more sequel/prequel stuff, but after the spinoff disasters of the past, maybe it’s best to leave well enough alone.
Needless to say, it makes me sad how few SF noobs understand what that show contributed to the renaissance of farscape, bsg, etc. that they enjoy now.
SOOOOO refreshing to watch a show where the universe doesn’t get saved every hour until next week. Very new concept for American sci-fi TV at the time.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Babylon 5 = another show I should probably watch. I wonder if it’s available instantly.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Ouch! I suppose putting them in milk would be useless.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Just don’t put your contact lenses in, or take them out, before you’ve washed that stuff off about 87 times. I only made that mistake once.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
I tried making a Pace-style salsa from scratch.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Did you cook the chilis on a skillet or over an open flame?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Skillet. Sadly, there is no such thing as an open flame in my apartment.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
I put a sandwich bag over my hand when cutting habeneros.
Of course only after experiencing the same as you above.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Yeah, I’m going to do this from now on. Delicious peppers, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Puts it into perspective
jaysonst
RT @PhillyGameday I’m sure someone like @jaysonst already brought this up, but Nats were bought for $120 mil in 2002. Werth just got $126M
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2010 6:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Jayson Werth will enjoy last place.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Another happy, satisfied Boras client!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
If the Nats get Pena and a starter like Pavano
They will not finish in last place.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Buying your way to 3rd place: The Washington Nationals story
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
only 120? holy hell. If i ever win the lottery im gonna wait for a shitty team to go up for sale
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv29p_w--4w
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
OT
Just noticed the Sun Bowl will be the old match up between the “convicts vs. Catholics” Miami (FL) vs. Notre Dame.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The way Notre Dame's been this year..
It might be convicts vs. convicts
lolololol
jaysonst
The #Nationals offer on Werth was so far above everyone else that Boras didn’t even ask other interested teams if they wanted to match it. 6 minutes ago via web
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
LOL Natinals
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Oh fail...
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
So Stephen Revetria is still with the Giants
And Sabean’s mind has been transferred into the GM of the Nationals?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
WELL DUH
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Brewers acquired Shawn Marcum
Don’t know what they gave up, but that seems like a good guy to get. Don’t know why the Blue Jays wanted to trade him!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ryan Braun!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 5, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Rumor is they're getting IF prospect Brett Lawrie
who was #59 before the season, in which he put up a nice season in AA as a 20 year old.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
or maybe pitching prospects?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Being Tweeted
That it is Brett Lawrie, he’s a Canuck. Other early reports say pitching. Nothing is yet firm.
MLBTR says pitching prospects
So Jake Odorizzi maybe?
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Wow. So much for trading for Greinke.
Then again…
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
perhaps they plan to flip what they get from Milwaukee for Greinke.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Morosi says Lawrie
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Confirmed
Haudricourt
A source in Canada just confirmed to me that Brett Lawrie indeed is in the deal to Toronto for Shaun Marcum. He is Brewers’ No. 1 prospect.
S
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
LOL PASSAN
trasburg was one of the 10 best pitchers in baseball before his elbow blew, and even if he returns at 90 percent, he’s still an All-Star for the next decade
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=AnLqEUKxoD5xfiQfQobkcoRvLYF?slug=jp-werthcontract120510
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
I love LL for these

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I don’t get any of that.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Whenever there is a big newsworthy event involving a player
Lookout Landing has put together images showing some of the shitty puns made by that player’s name.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
The first picture makes him look like WWE (? He still there I don’t watch anymore) wrestler Edge, at least from 2002.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He is.
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You think you know him
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Gets all the womens!

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
This picture doesn’t make any sense.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
I hated this storyline.
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I think everyone did.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Except Vince I guess.
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At least it wasn’t as retarded as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCpdBoqLJ68
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
So bad, yet so good.
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The very same words I use to describe this man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3-1zTcQOg
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Dude had some slick moves

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by Natto on Dec 5, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I loved Christian before he left for TNA. He was the best thing in the WWE at the time and they reduced him to jobber status.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yes the old Sith Mind Trick Slam
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Still better than Katie Vick
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Remember when they were the BROOD
with Christian, Edge, and Gangrel? I remember there was an episode of Raw and they were running late on time, and they had to rush Gangrel’s usually long entrance, it was funny watching him do his whole deal while looking rushed like he was running late for a business meeting. All three of these guys had the best finishing moves at the time!
Edge=Jayson Werth in this photo
Mick Foley= Nationals

How did that one turn out?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
In case you didn't get the puns
Worry not, they’ve conveniently included the definition for you!
you ever been on a real shrimpin' boat?
no, but i've been on a real big boat
My headline would have been punny without the "worth" pun:
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Nationals Prove They Can Get Any Woerth
The thong is, it happened.
LOL GRANT
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Before my nap, I would have traded Emmanuel Burriss for Jayson Werth. I woke up, and now I’m not so sure. #thingsineverthoughtidtype
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
sounds like a sharp guy
Werth said he thought about playing for the Nationals the moment he hired Scott Boras as his agent late last season. Werth is impressed by how the Nationals were able to acquire young talent such as right-hander Stephen Strasburg and outfielder Bryce Harper.
Umm, I guess he means he’s impressed by how the Nationals had the foresight to lose 298 games in the last three years to end up with great draft picks?
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
ha ha...
yeah… he just should have said:
“I’m impressed by how much the Nationals sucked.”
Basking in the afterglow of my World Series Champion San Francisco Giants, while awaiting the Stanley Cup hoisting by my beloved San Jose Sharks.
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My word, when I was writing statements for press releases I at least tried to be plausible.
Of course, that was real estate marketing.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
“Now, people like to whisper the word ‘sinkhole’ in this neighborhood, but it’s really not a problem…”
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Built on a foundation of exquisite limestone, the fifty-story towers provide the utmost in modern luxury for the up-and-comer on the go.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I have an entire portfolio of soul-deadening pabulum. Finally one day I told the meeting, “Find someone else. I can’t do this anymore” and walked out.
(the part where a month later I was begging for them to take me back, I usually leave out.)
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
In all seriousness, this is why I know I couldn’t do PR for an entity I didn’t believe in. I agree with your characterization of soul-deadening pablum; that’s how I felt about PR when I was in college. But I think there are some places where I could comfortably do that job and still be able to look myself in the mirror at the end of the day.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I keep checking the Giants job listings :c
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
So did I! When I was looking to get out of the morning shift, I was looking at all sorts of possibilities, including PR for a baseball team or a governmental agency like USGS or NASA.
Two funny stories: I jokingly said I’d apply to be the head janitor at KQED. Only, one of the requirements was that I had to be able to lift 50 pounds. My colleagues took one look at me and burst into laughter.
And, I jokingly said I’d apply to be Sluggerrr, the Royals’ mascot. Only, one of the requirements was that I had to be 6’4". Again, my co-workers thought that was pretty damn funny.
Both were real job postings, and both symbolized how hopeless my situation had become.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
"The term "fixer-upper" is thrown around a lot lately..."
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
people in the head office at mlb arent too thrilled by werth’s contract. no surprise there. #highestpaidnumber5hitterever
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LOL tag
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Zito: Highest paid number 5 starter ever.
Boras FTW.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
whats a realistic guess for crawford now
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions
But that includes the $300 million signing bonus.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Am I the only one
who thinks Werth is more valuable than Crawford, especially over the next 5-7years?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Baseball Genetic Scientist’s greatest triumph, and their worst nightmare.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Look for red eyes. If it/he doesn’t have red eyes then it/he is probably not evil.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Scott Farkas = Yellow Eyes
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
eyes?

Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
10/200
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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ryan howard and chase utley on always sunny
damn i wish sf had a show that timmy and wilson could go on
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 8:12 PM PST reply actions
That’s So Raven?
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lqtm.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
WHY DID THEY HAVE TO CANCEL FULL HOUSE?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Matthew Fox had stuff to do.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
He could have done Party of Five in the alternate timeline
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 5, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
The Oceanic Five?
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That sounds like it would be a terrible party.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 5, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
too bad suddenly susan isnt still on
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 5, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
CHARMED!!!
/alyssa milano’d
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
If only Trauma was still on.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 5, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
I like how no one’s mentioned the one with Don Johnson. Wasn’t that the only one that was actually shot in San Francisco?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Didn’t Zito guest-star on that one? Or was it Shawn Estes?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I only remember Zeets on JAG.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I’m definitely seeing Quimford.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Holy Hell what a play Polomalu
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I want the Steelers to lose.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Eternally.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
SORRY 'BOUT IT!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
I actually don't even care, i like the organization
they’ve done nothing wrong, the Rooney’s are what the York’s should be like, but will never ever be like
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I’m fine with the Steelers as an org, but I can’t deal with Ben, and I have a huge crush on Flacco.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Have fun with Flacco....
i’ll stick with Polomalu and Woodley, plus Dick Lebeau. Oh and tell Joe Flacco to not fumble the ball in a big game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
im glad you went the mature route there, Howie
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Go the mature route yourself.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
U R 5
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
I KNO U R BUT WHAT AM I?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Oh, way to sink to my level there.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
i know. its sad being this low
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
TWSS
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I don't like that they took the lead on Super Bowl titles.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
big deal, somebody had to, niners definitely don't deserve it
with the way they’re running their organization
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
True
Doesn’t mean I have to like it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
YOU AND WHAT ARMY?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I think I could take him.
Probably could not take Pika though.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
that was a hell of a game.
not Flaccos fault on the fumble, he got hit from The Blind Side… ironically, Michael Oher missed the tackle
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
MICHAEL OHER!!! MOOCHIN OFF THE RICH IN MEMPHIS!!!!!!!
i’m only kidding, awesome book though
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
did you see the movie too?
it was all well done, book and movie. bullock didnt deserve the Oscar, but she’s bid her time. I’ve always liked her, Jesse James is a dumb motherfucker for that BS.
I didn’t read the book, but the movie almost seemed like it was trying to draw a thick line between rich and poor, black and white (at times)
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
nah, didn't see the movie
yea, that’s pretty much what the book did though
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
personally, i dont even think that the black/white, rich/poor polar opposites were even really needed as plot lines.
you’ve got a (yes, poor) boy who is given equal opportunities as everyone else (yes, well-off others), and succeeds/prevails. that’s what it should have been about. all the other plot lines served to take your attention away from the real point, which was never even made- the overall education system does not serve everyone equally.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
JeffFletcherAOL
Still quiet on Prince Fielder. #brewers likely to hold him and take draft picks rather than selling him cheap.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
LOL Zito is a TT on Twitter
Poor guy. You’d think eighteen million a year would be enough to pay people not to make fun of you.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
At least he has his music.
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I’m actually waiting for him to sell out there, too. I can see it now…. “A man’s gotta Dew what a man’s gotta Dew…”
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
He could annually pay 18 million people $1 each not to make fun of him.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
TT= Total Tool?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
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"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Also, that can never apply to Barry Zito, who is an excellent human being in many respects and a perfectly average one in most every other.
He does have a cute panic face when cornered, too.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
OT: Kinda having a revelation here,
i move back to the bay area in about 2 or 3 weeks, not ready for it. College is almost over, damnit. I dont know how to feel, pretty emotional, my girlfriends got another year and a half here. I got nobody in the Bay Area really, just family, and like 2 or 3 friends, but that’s about it. I guess it just kinda sucks at this point, and not really sure how to feel
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I live in the Bay Area and only have like 2-3 friends who I socialize with outside of class (one of whom lives in LA). You get by.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Really? you still have fun though out there? I guess it’s just the realization this is happening
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
If by fun you mean hit the bars and get crunk or whatever it is you kids these days get, no.
If by fun you mean feel an overall sense of satisfaction with my life, including my social life, yes.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
nah
i’m done with the going to the bars and getting drunk and all that shit. I want the overall satisfaction with my life
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
/faints in shock
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
done it too many times, had a bad night Friday
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
let me guess- someone who you were drinking with made the night crap?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
well… ended up smoking while blacked out, and spent about an hour in the bathroom at some random house i dont even know, walked back, a half hour walk, at 4:30 in the morning, snowing
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
that’s no good. at least you didnt pass out on a speaker at a bar and wake up in the am in a bush with your shoes missing, only to come home and find you you’re kicked out of your sweet downtown apt because your roommate thought we lived in a diff apt and went into a neighbors apt and passed out, only to be kicked out and fall down the stairs requiring stitches at 5am.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 5, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
moderation is a strong virtue, my friend.
i learned that the hard way too.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
i had the same sad feeling when I left Monterey
but dude, at least you left the parents house after HS and went to college.
I left the parents house at 18 too, but just moved back to the area 2 years ago after college, and there are alot of people around here that never went to the junior college and are pretty much regretting their lives now. I moved back thinking I’d get in touch with old friends, but that’s actually kinda depressing. So now I’m making new friends, mostly guys from the fire academy and the station.
so consider yourself lucky you went out and learned to take care of yourself.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
honestly I’d rather not say online. But it is in Marin County
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Fair enough. I thought you might be SFFD, as my best friend is a FF and I’ve partied with a bunch of them.
The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS
SFFD is rediculously hard to get into. they had an opening a few years back and 5000 people applied. one of my friends scored in the 98th percentile… which was still not even in the top 100.
it will take many, many years to get into a big city dept, but the pay is better and youre busier. me, i like my little niche. big city depts are also dangerous, far more dangerous than reg city (50k people) depts because of the types of fires they respond to.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 5, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
What, really?
A libertarian would conclude that we need to lower SFFD pay rates.
Me, I don’t mind overspending on municipal services. I do mind that we’re not willing to @#%$! tax people to pay for it. I should pay higher taxes, and Muni should be fully freaking funded. Stupid politicians.
by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
Hehe
People who say that they should be taxed at higher rates always amuse me. You’re aware that there’s nothing stopping you from sending in as much money as you want to the US Treasury, the California treasury, or the SF treasury, right? Go for it!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
In simmilar vien what cracks me up more is people the think failing to plan for the obvious is virtue. Yes, I am looking at you moderan Libiterians.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
What’ve you got against Libiteria? i hear it’s very nice there this time of year.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
once you cross the eqator doesn't that mean you turn you underwarereversed?
Or is the spices? I get the two confused some times.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
I frequently tell my students that local taxes and elections could be the most important.
They have the most obvious effects on their lives.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Oh nice! yea, i’ll probably be making new friends, i mean, going to Miami Ohio it’s troublesome because alot of the friends here are just gonna be here in Ohio, and i’m gonna be flying out here a few times out of the year, but ya know, it’s just bittersweet.
I really need to just think of it like you said, feel lucky that i have to live on my own right after college, because my dad’s up in CHico, and i have family in the Bay, but got to find my own apartment and live by myself in the city. That’s something that worries me, all because the kid i was going to live with who’s from Chicago isn’t gonna live with me anymore, who knows why
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yeah dude feel lucky for the time you spent in college, but also understand that nothing lasts forever and you gotta make the best of the new experiences to come. at least thats how i look at it as someone who might never come home from my job one day.
if youre moving out here for a job, thats one thing, but if theres nothing really out here for you, then why not stay? as for the friends out there, that’s one thing i really do miss about college… i find myself telling stories to my friends about the old college days, and when i tell the stories, i realize just how much fun it was (and how crazy it really was).
if theres no pushing reason for you to come back out here, theres no reason you shouldnt stay out there, esp if you have a gf you deem worth staying for.
if you need help with a place, i have some friends in the city i could get in touch with, might know if someone needing a roommate
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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Great point dude!
I really appreciate the help and the advice, and i definitely will take it. What i will do is look for jobs, stay in touch with my friends. And if i end up living out here for a bit, it is what it is, Just go where the job is, and if my girlfriend and i want to stick together, we’ll make it work, right?
Same thing with my friends, we’ll talk like everyday, and i’ll make new friends and everything too. But we’ll see, you know? if it comes to living out here, i’ll deal with it, san francisco? there’s nothing wrong with it, and i’ll do something with what i have
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
What did you major in?
job opportunites for certain majors are fewer and farther between in certain parts of the country, but if you’re gonna be leaving your area, its best to have a line on a job in the area your moving to already set. or, just jump in- if you work hard, it’ll work itself out.
also, theres nothing that says you have to move from the city that you went to college in. some of my friends stayed in Monterey, some left. couldnt tell you what the better pick is- that’s all up to what you want out of life. youre making a big decision here, and while you can always come back if it doesn’t work out one way or another, the better money is on setting yourself up to succeed.
life, like baseball, changes with every pitch you make. every pitch creates a different outcome, just as every decision in life nets a different outcome. if youre not sure what to do or where to go, don’t rush it… or you might not be putting yourself in the best position to be happy. and that’s what it’s all about.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 6, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Yep
well said, i mean, who knows, i will end up at home for Christmas, that’s for sure, i’m going home for sure, there’s no way i’m not going home for Christmas. I’ve been applying to jobs around the Bay Area and around Ohio, it’s more for Geography, since that is my major. Like you said, i’m not going to rush it, i’m going to take my time a little bit.
I want to be happy, and i’m not too worried about it anymore, i think it’s just because i thought about it too much last night, and that’s just what happens. I mean, same thing happened when i came back out to school here this summer, didn’t want to leave home, but i did. So in reality it doesnt bother me much. Everything happens for a reason, and i’ve definitely understood that throughout my life, since that is a fact. and to be honest, i want to move onto the real life, it’s gonna be better than the college years for sure
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Dude
My parents moved to Visalia. I know them and a couple of my parents’ employees. You’ll be ok. Plus you’re in the Bay! Good meet some new peoples.
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
Sabes chooses cards, not dominoes.
From SFGiants.com:
general manager Brian Sabean suggested organizing an extended card game in his suite at the Winter Meetings.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
TEXAS Hold 'em!!
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
/bets WS trophy
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
/wagers world series trophy
/kicks tires on 2/7 offsuit
/haz sad
NOT MORE POKEMONS!!!!
What do you mean by " Wrong cards?"
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
And then proceeds to go all in Wheeler, Belt and Neal in the first pot and loses.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 8:03 AM PST up reply actions
After years of xanthan claiming the superiority of Five Guys, I have now tried it.
Verdict: solid burger and wow, they give you a lot of fries. But even with the ‘small’ burger option and ‘regular’ fries, it’s still a lot more expensive than In’n’Out and I don’t think it’s any better, so I probably will not go again.
This is the final word on the topic.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!! It's pretty damn good, even though the price
In ‘N’ Out is pretty good though, two awesome burgers, and fries
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Just opened one in Pleasant Hill. Not on the peninsula, but in the Bay Area
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 5, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
I live in DC
It’s no contest. In and Out’s burger is way better.
Five guys fries are better though
How much fries do they give you if you order a large? I got a regular and it seems like they put a cup of fries in and them filled up the rest of the bag with them anyway. WTF.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They give u a bigger cup and throw fries in the bag
It’s pretty ridiculous
I live in DC
And five guys is the best burger option at that price point.
But suffice to say this – I do not think about Five Guys when I am in California.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
After living in NY for a year now, across the street from Shake Shack
I’d rate them as such:
1. Shake Shack (superior meat, bun)
2. In N Out (superior onions, secret sauce, service, prices)
3. 5 Guys (superior pickle, fries, selection)
I will add that I’ve had In N Out over 100 times, which means I have had quite a few burned patties (faulting the cook, not the product), while I’ve yet to have an over/undercooked Shack burger or 5 Guys, but that might just be SSS.
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Shake Shack
is teh awesome.
I always like grabbing a burger there when I make one of my rare visits to NYC.
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I always get my In N Out burger medium rare these days
And I get the fries cooked a little longer. It helps (for me anyway).
Aaron King, please pitch better.
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Yeah, real potato fries totally suck.
Give me the processed potato starch recreations.
And there is no comparrison to in-n-out when you are talking about national/regional chain fast food at that price.
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Whaaaaaaat?
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I should clarify this…“fresh potato” fries are a great idea but potatoes need to be dried out before being fried…it’s like how rice need to be dried out for fried rice…
yeah
You have to fry the fries once, let them drain and then fry them again to make them good and crispy
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Dec 6, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
I love In’n’out fries, personally, especially if you get them well done.
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Well done animal style is unf unf
My Christmas break food consumption will be 90% in-and-out, 10% mom’s Christmas goose. Mmmm.
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I’ve always been tempted to order animal style but I can’t bring myself to do it. I don’t think I’d want the special sauce on it anyway – just cheese and grilled onions.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
animal style is gooooooooooooooooooood
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That’s what the furries said!
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by Natto on Dec 6, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Only if they are well done
They’re just ok otherwise
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
I mean this affectionately
but I think that everything you think is wrong.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I more frequently label In n Out as "best value" than "best burger"
There are definitely better places out there, but compared to McDonalds and the other fast food places, In-n-Out is a pretty good deal. Within the same vein, the shakes are a similar value: not the best, but good for the price.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I think it's the "Best Fast Food Burger"
but certainly not the best burger, period.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sez Haft
Sabean has repeated that he would prefer a left-handed hitter, though few of them are available in free agency — the Giants’ preferred source of offseason player acquisitions. Though Sabean indicated that center fielder Aaron Rowand will “get a fresh start” next season, the Giants might listen if the Phillies or Mets were to offer left-handed-batting Raul Ibanez or switch-hitting Carlos Beltran, respectively, for him. All three earn eight-figure salaries.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I would listen as well.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
One year less of a handcuffing contract.
That is how I would see it. He would not crack the starting 9 with our set right now.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Ibanez would be sweet too
If only to get the $$ off our books a year earlier. And they could both be equally useless on the bench.
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Plus the .gif's!
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Danger! Danger!
Beltran’s had several knee surgeries and the Mets cut his season short in September.
Link [and the single comment is great]
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- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Yes please.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Fresh Start
On another team
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I'd love to get Beltran for Rowand
Not sure the money could work though
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I'd eat a lot of Rowand's $$$ to get Beltran
But I don’t think Sandy Alderson is dumb enough to trade a guy who probably still has a few 3-win seasons left in him for Aaron Rowand.
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I don't know if we have the budget though
I mean Rowand is due 27M over 2 yrs and Beltran is making 18M this year (IIRC)…
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Well yeah
But Beltran is making 18 million for 1 year, and Rowand is making 24 for 2 years.
I’d offer Rowand + 6 million for Beltran. Money’s even, we get the open roster spot a year earlier, and a much much better player.
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I thought that too
But in Baggs latest article he says Rowand is making 27M which makes the finances a bit more complicated. I dunno I’d love for it to happen but it seems like a pipe dream
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Dunno where Baggs is getting that
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/san-francisco-giants_30.html
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Hope you're right-Here's the quote + article
Critical to that assessment is which players are on that bench, particularly if one of them is Aaron Rowand. The outfielder has two years left on a five-year, $60 million deal, with a remaining obligation of $27.2 million
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Nothing like a “fresh start” to prove that you haven’t been capable of cracking a 95 OPS+ in five of the last six years.
Yes, I conveniently left off the years directly preceding those ones.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Please, please, please...
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Wait, what?
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
The #dodgers are trying to get Vicente Padilla as a swing-man and possible closer.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LOL. What are they gonna do with Broxton and Kuo?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Also
don’t they already have him?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
If you mean Pidilla, that is?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yes.
so LOL indeed.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I find it funny that Agent Ned is hellbent on assembling a crack pitching staff for 2011 when last year, LA’s problem wasn’t pitching but hitting. Aside from adding Uribe, he must be counting on guys like Loney, Kemp and Ethier really bouncing back next year.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
What's their lineup like?
SS Furcal
LF ???
CF Kemp
RF Ethier
3B Blake
1B Loney
2B Uribe
C Barajas
Verdict: Not compleeeeetely terrible but still pretty LOL worthy (unless they somehow acquire a legit left fielder)
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
They have good starting pitching
I mean, think of it this way – by my count, they have better players at 5 positions than we did in our opening day lineup last year.
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That'd be a pretty bad defensive OF
But perhaps good enough offensively to compensate, if Damon is still capable of a .360 OBP.
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Agent Ned laughs at your defensive metrics and fancy .OBP
DAMON IS A CLUTCH WINNER
If they were smart
They would go after a CF, and move Kemp to LF
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wait WHAT?
Has all of baseball gone batshit crazy Azula?
Is this what the Giants’ World Championship inspires in other teams?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
The Giants winning the World Series has lead to the downfall of western civilization.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I think that's the climax of the downfall, not the inception
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
wait, you;re right
Giants win WS → western civilization (‘I think it would be a good idea’ - Gandhi) collapses
Cubs win WS —> space-time unravels
by wcw on Dec 6, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
What's the opposite of uzrporn?
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
Universal opinion in the lobby is the Cardinals are crazy to try to play Berkman in the OF.
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UZRtrainwreck?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Uzrsubtitlddocumentry?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
/Bats Berkman 9th
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
I mean what the fuck, Japan?!
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
semi-related to this but OT to baseball
How come searching for Azula or Katara on GIS, even with safesearch on, turns up porn? Searching for Zuko doesn’t.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Are you mad that porn is popping up even with safe search? Or mad that you cannot find Zuko porn?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I am not going to try this. They are both, like, 14. People are disgusting.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
According to this:
http://www.meridiano.com.ve/Grandesligas/noticia.asp?registro=180913
Rent wants to play 2 more years before he retires. He has three teams interested in him, all in the National League. He would like to return to the Giants, but if not, he has the two other options. He’s not worried and believes a deal can be finalized in a week or even sooner.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I like him as a back up for Tejada at the applicable price.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Getting to be a pretty crowded bench
Rent
Grant
Scott
Ishi
Nate
Eli
DeRosa
Who goes? And if Belt has a monster Spring, I’m guessing Ishi goes.
It's Ishi, hands down.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I don’t really care where his hands are, even.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
I don't really care where his hands are, odd.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Odd: One of Ishikawa’s similar hitters on BB-R is a pitcher…
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
That's definitely good for his career
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But yeah, too many people who can play 1B between Huff, Pablo, Burrell (?), Posey, and eventually Belt to have an 8th-inning defensive replacement blocking anyone.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
DEPTH CHART
Looks something like this?
C – Posey, Whiteside
1B – Huff, Ishi, Sandoval, Belt
2B – Sanchez, DeRosa, Fontenot
3B – Sandoval, Tejada, DeRosa, Fontenot
SS – Tejada, Renteria, Fontenot
LF – Burrell, Huff, Ross, DeRosa, Belt
CF – Torres, Rowand, Ross
RF – Ross, Schierholtz, Torres
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
You would also put Rent probably behind Sanchez at 2B
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
He said he would be open to playing 2B for the team he next plays for.
And going from SS → to 2B is easier defensively.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
DeRosa shouldn’t be on that list until he actually plays baseball again. And if he does I bet they move Fontenot (esp. if Rent is back).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Depends on the role and price (both financial and player lost in either Ishi/Nate/?)
If he knows that he is not a starter, he would make a great bench player. Great in the clubhouse, respected vet, still capable of big hits. ideal bench player.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
dude has WS-winning hitz and tells Cody how to be a playoff monster. Re-sign him on those principles alone… 2011 is our season, prancing around with the old gang as Champs.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 6, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
This was the first of a series of insulting e-mails I've been getting from Walter Payton.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
That one wasn’t homophobic, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Is his email referring to mopeds or more performance enhancing drug time?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
*email address
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Neither. Walter Payton IS Pedobear!
/pedobear jpg meme
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
The Giants Fan Confidence is trending down
Are people losing faith because of offseason moves?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
After the WS it’s all downhill from here!
/pessimist.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 6, 2010 1:34 AM PST up reply actions
GFC is regressing to the norm.
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Let's bring back Jim Davenport. And Ken Henderson.
I'll bet I was the only person in France wearing a Giants home jersey for days following Nov. 1. What does that mean? ... ... ...
I just did the fangraphs projection thingy.
Name PA AB HR SB AVG OBP SLG OPS wOBA UZR WAR Andres Torres 718 646 23 36 0.289 0.363 0.528 0.891 0.389 19 8.1 Freddy Sanchez 608 565 6 4 0.29 0.34 0.382 0.723 0.319 7 2.5 Aubrey Huff 594 535 20 4 0.29 0.364 0.482 0.846 0.365 12 3.9 Buster Posey 580 505 20 4 0.311 0.402 0.515 0.917 0.39 16 7.5 Pat Burrell 554 482 20 0 0.27 0.362 0.479 0.842 0.363 -7 2.1 Cody Ross 567 510 20 4 0.271 0.351 0.492 0.843 0.363 12 4.1 Pablo Sandoval 554 482 24 4 0.309 0.398 0.531 0.929 0.391 -3 4.6 4175 3725 133 56 0.29 0.366 0.487 0.853
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
that's a homerrific projection
I like it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It's Pandacular, even!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
I really thought I was being realistic too!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
.398 OBP for Panda
what alternate reality is this? impossible unless he has a .350 avg
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
If you do it, you will see that you don’t pick a number but rather a range of numbers and then it computes them all.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
8.1 War Torres!?!?
wtf lol
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This would be terrific
Posey and Sandoval could finish 1-2 in the MVP voting if this happens.
LOL Torres 2nd on the team in HRs.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I have to think Torres would be the top candidate
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was channeling national media attention.
The only people that would recognize him for what he did would be the local writers.
OTOH, DINGERS
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
it will be balanced out by the Dodger fan projections
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So Mark Reynolds is an Areola now?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
So Mark Reynolds is an Areola? Wow.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Mark Reynolds has 3 ShamWows?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Debbie Reynolds cut a rap song with Sam Bowie?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Dec 6, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Sam Bowie used reynolds wrap on Debbie Reynolds?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Me: Mark Reynolds is an Oriole now?
McC: That’s not what we said.
Me: Yeah, I but know this grapevine.
/jonathan dangerously
by non sequitur on Dec 6, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, only 2 relief pitchers.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Did it end up being David Hernandez+?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Kam Mickolio.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Shift-A: Missed the whole weekend
but 7 year $126 million? Really Nationals…apparently channeling its inner 2001 Texas Rangers…
No one was going more than 4-5 year at $15 million a year for Werth
Geez…what the heck is Crawford going to ask for…
Johnny Bench on Posey
This kid is just racking up the compliments…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I love this comment:
“There are three types of pitchers you have to deal with,” Bench said. “Some you just have to tell what town they’re in, remind them where they are. Some you remind them about mechanics, and some you have to bust their tail. You have to make them your friend and have them trust you.”
From our pitchers, I wonder who fits in which category..
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
quick guess:
remind what town: Cain, Wilson, Tim, Madison
mechanics: Zito, Tim, Sanchez
bust tail: Sanchez, Zito
yeah, I know – a couple of pitchers make both lists.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 6, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I definitely think JSan and Zito would be two that occasionally need a stern talking to at the mound.
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
The problem is that Zito kind of enjoys the stern “talkings”
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Jonathan does, too :)
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Can you imagine the Tomko in-game therapy sessions?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
It's not "mechanics"
But Tim seems like a guy who needs to be reminded of stuff:
- He seems to totally forget to check runners
- He seesm to space not always no right away where he’s going with a comebacker
The thong is, it happened.
Tech OT: Google books
Awesome…especially since it has a bunch of the classics for free…
Still prefer paper books….
Left handers do it with their left hand.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Hands should probably be plural there.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
But left handers don’t have one collective hand.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Except the Rox’s
And I stilldon’t trust the young talent on the D Backs to stay down. The sooner they break it up of scrub part timers the happier I will be.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
MLBTR:
Cliff Lee’s agent Darek Braunecker held court today at the Winter Meetings, but didn’t say much. The latest on the lefty:
* Braunecker says they have visited with “significantly more clubs” than just the Yankees and Rangers, tweets MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch. Braunecker is in the process of setting up meetings.
I can’t wait for the Giants rumors: “The Giants, hoping to upgrade the fifth spot in their rotation, have checked in with Braunecker to get a feel for what Cliff Lee’s price range is.”
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
the follow up of that rumor, of course.
Cliff Lee’s demand, while reasonable, seems a touch out of reach for the Giants at this moment. “I want more years and more dollars than your current fifth starter.” said Lee. “It’s not about the worth, it’s about being fair.”
San Francisco’s current fifth starter, Barry Zito, signed a 7 years, 126 Million dollars contract back in 2006.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Serious Adrian is serious

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wow almost looks shopped
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
by Unitard on Dec 6, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Needs more top hat, monocle and twirly mustache.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
I think the pic has been adjust in photoshop
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I think there are like 8,000,000 flashes in the room hitting Gonzalez from all angles which really makes the image look strange…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Dec 6, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Man, I can’t believe Dante Hicks sold out to the Red Sox.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
But I wasn’t even supposed to be here today!
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I really don’t think enough has been made of Adrian Gonzalez’s uncanny resemblance to Brian O’Halloran.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
So much potential now moved to the AL East.
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LOL! Via GLB
And be perfectly honest with yourself, Padres Fan. You didn’t really care that Adrian Gonzalez was a Padre. I know, because I didn’t see you at the games. So don’t try to act all butt hurt like somebody did you wrong.
That’s a whooooooooolllllloooota fans that really didn’t care.
I talked to a big Padres fan in my office and he stated that the GM is looking 3-4 years ahead since the ownership issue is still unresolved…that’s why they did not want any MLBers
I thought the team was just sold.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, that's pretty dickish.
Please say that was not someone from here.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
MLBTR:
The Diamondbacks signed infielder Melvin Mora to a two-year, $4MM deal, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Mora and Geoff Blum will be tasked with replacing Mark Reynolds at third base, I assume.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
Miquel Tejada
Brian Roberts
Melvin Mora
Aubrey Huff
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Time to vote
i'm a newcomer
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
by PiKAgiant on Dec 6, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome!
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Some perspective on the Werth Deal
31 year old Juan Uribe hit 24 home runs and drove in 85 RBI playing SS and hitting at cavernous ATT Park. He got 3yrs/$21mil
31 year old Jayson Werth hit 27 home runs and drove in 85 RBI last year playing the corner outfield at a bandbox in Philly. He got 7yrs/$126mil!!!
And Uribe was OVERPAID!
by Viva Jon Miller on Dec 6, 2010 11:14 AM PST reply actions
LOL using HR and RBI’s to compare players
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
FYI- Werth was 5th in the league in slugging
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I am not saying that Uribe is the same offensive player as Werth
I can see how that was inferred, but I am a devoted saber-nerd. But I don’t think Werth is THAT much better (comparing their two ridiculous contracts) than Uribe, who was overpaid to begin with.
by Viva Jon Miller on Dec 6, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Sure, Werth is overpaid, but he’s a much better player than Uribe is.
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I think both are less overpaid in terms of dollar amounts than they are in number of years.
A 4 year deal for Werth averaging $18 million probably would be a good signing. Add on another three at the same value and you start to overpay.
Uribe is similar. One or two years at his salary is fine, going beyond that you star to play with fire a little.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
One thing with Werth
It sounds like the Nationals basically started with a 7 year 126 million offer without even figuring out what the market was. No one else came anywhere close to that much (sound like anyone we know?) They probably had to overpay in terms of $ or years to get him but starting at a point THAT much higher than everyone else is a recipe for disaster.
I guess you could argue that they can’t afford to make an offer too low because that could kill Werth’s interest. But still. If everyone one else was really offering, like, 4/68 or something and they come in with practically twice that, that’s just ridiculous.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
As someone else said, the owners of the Nationals are worth multi-billions, so this might be one of those open up the personnel coffers to show that you want to improve your team.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 6, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
They should just take out an ad in the newspaper like the A’s.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Also
The Nats’ principal owner, Ted Lerner, is 85 years old. Maybe he’s operating on the theory that “He Who Dies With the Most Overpaid Free Agent Wins.”
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Ah, shades of Leon Hess announcing the Richie Kotite era: “I want to win now!”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
/ Al Davis offers him a white leisure suit.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
I’ll give them some credit for targeting Werth rather than Crawford, though. I really think Crawford’s contract is going to end up an absolute catastrophe.
Especially now...
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
LOL
using Uribe 31* and Werth 31 to compare players.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Jayson Werth career OPS+: 121
Juan Uribe career OPS+: 85
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It did kinda seem like Uribe was slightly overpaid
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I give this analysis a D+. Please come see me after class.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
" when I think of all the education that I missed..but then again my homework was never quite like this."
/ cues air gituar riff then runs!
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
Teams who love to SIRM
MONDAY, 1:31pm: The Red Sox, Blue Jays, and Mets are also thought to be interested in Martin, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman.
FRIDAY, 9:16am: The Yankees, who tried to trade for Russell Martin this week, are one of six teams interested in the 27-year-old free agent, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Michael S. Schmidt of the New York Times reports that the Yankees nearly sent Francisco Cervelli to the Dodgers for Martin (Twitter links). In fact, the Yankees and Dodgers even exchanged medical records on Wednesday.
The Dodgers are nearing a deal with Rod Barajas, but they still have interest in re-signing Martin. Agent Matt Colleran says the Dodgers view his client differently than most teams do.
"They want to continue discussions with the idea that Russ could come back and catch, play second base and third and a little bit out of outfield to see if he likes something like that in the event he ever wants to transition from behind the plate," Colleran said.
It wouldn’t be surprising to see the Royals, Rangers, Mariners, Mets or Brewers look to upgrade behind the plate. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports that Martin, who is from Montreal, wants to play on the East Coast (Twitter link).
/goes to Lookout Landing to see excitement at getting SIRM
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
hhhmm
I see one comment date dec 3 before that in June. I would see that is about the correct level of excitement.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
They always have a preview of Heroes on these DVDs. I wonder if I should actually watch it sometime.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Hint: Don't.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The horrible things I’ve heard about what happens after season 1 scare me off.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
They got kind of screwed up by the writer’s strike, but more so by refusing to follow through on any of their plans (and, admittedly, having really poor plans in the first place.)
It seemed like every single “volume” ended with a complete and total reboot after Season 1. And with Nathan dying and then being magically resurrected…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Also how many times must Ali Larter play a different character?
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I liked most of season one. After that...not so much.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Watch the first season and pretend they cancelled it after that.
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+109
My wife loved that show.
After season one it was only slightly less sucky to endure then Top Model, Bridezilla (sp?). A 30 minute film of Scott swing at low and away breaking stuff was more enjoyible.
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
I want Adama and Tight to make up and be happy.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
WTF typo? Stupid hands trained to type one word.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. Dee is really taking this poorly.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve always been glad they let Helo/Athena be happy.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
What in the world happened on Earth 2,000 years ago?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm… weird revelation about the 13th tribe. Probably should have seen it coming, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 6, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Season 1 was so good
then they had to ruin it by continuing the show.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
New thread for the slow computers.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/12/6/1859338/cain-on-the-trading-block
Check the URL and prepare to freak out.

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