Holiday Open Thread
Just a comment starter today. What do you think the biggest remaining need is for the 2011 Giants? My answer after the jump.
Starting pitching depth. Think about an injury to a pitcher in the rotation, then think who would fill in. Nuts to the backup shortstop -- the 6th and 7th starters are who I'm worried about.
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I agree
Starting pitching depth. Maybe some middle infield depth and an alternative at backup catcher after that, but I don’t care that much if those “needs” aren’t addressed.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
by sam23 on Dec 23, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 23, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
+2
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
+4
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Get yo' woman on the floor!
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
I’m worried that we don’t have enough centerfielders.
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Yeah
you never know when they are all simultaneously run into a wall
by panda revival on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
All your centerfielders are belong to our wall.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
by iammclovin on Dec 23, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is why Billy Beane is a genius.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 23, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean coined CenterfielderBall, Beane gets all the credit.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 23, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Also wondering who will play 1B if
Huff, Pablo, Belt, Ishi all get food poisoning or get some bad hangnails from a footfetish video shoot gone bad.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
DeRosa or Posey
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Richie's only a phone call away
Bochy & Co. -- Your 2010 World Series Champions
by GrayDilla on Dec 23, 2010 5:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
No need to worry. I maintain the highest quality of safety at all times on my video shoots.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
another lead off hitter. We need more than just Torres.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
But we still have Rowand!
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Dec 23, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Eh… just have somebody who can hit bat first. Running not a requirement. Problem solved.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
ideally a young, left-handed first baseman who can spot cover in LF, hit for some power and be under control for at least a couple of years. oh, wait.
He said “hit for some power”. Doesn’t apply.
by BustaTheRippa on Dec 25, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Biggest remaining need for the 2011 Giants?
A 2011 World Series Championship.
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
Roseanne Bar
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Dec 23, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Sanford and Son
The San Francisco Giants are the World Champions.
by The Enchanter on Dec 23, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Jack Sanford
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Dec 23, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Livan Las Vegas
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Vida Guerra
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Betty White
Oscar Wilde may have been a brilliant and talented man, but at the end of the day he was still a cocksucker, just like the Dodgers.
Betty Betty Good to Me
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Last Will and Testament
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Good Will Bunting?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
WilRiv
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 23, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Joan Rivers
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
River Phoenix
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
River Styx
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
River Monsters
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 24, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Real Monsters
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Mitchell Page
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 23, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Jimmy Page
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Choose Goose
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Goose Gossage
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Geese Ausbie
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Dec 23, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Gene Autry
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Himilayen Spruce
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Giant Sequoia
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
No
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Stevie Nicks
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Saint Nick
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Veruca Salt
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Salt Water Taffy
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Jason Bateman
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Dec 23, 2010 4:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Kevin Bacon
Yes! Finally!
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Kevin McAllister
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 24, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Deuce McAllister
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 24, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Bigelow Herbal Tea
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 24, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Ice-T
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Tangle Up In Blue
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
A new McC overlord
Talk about mailing it in just because it’s the holidays. (Just kidding, Grant. You’re still a wonderful, beneficent overlord.)
Seriously, though, starting pitch depth is something we need. Also, the Yankees’s checkbook would be nice.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This kind of dissent is the first step toward the violent jponry takeover.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
"Our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason, and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. In fact, Thomas Jefferson said it’s good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years. I hope that’s not where we’re going, but you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies."-Sharron " I’m not crazy " Angle, January 2010
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
That's in normal human years
What is it in McCoven years?
by NearestNorwich on Dec 24, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Best Christmas Present ever
Would be a trade where we get any sort of value for Scotty Rowand
Winning isn't everything... but I could get used to this
by homegrowntalent on Dec 23, 2010 11:33 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Also
Are there any special features that jump out on the 8 disc world series DVD? I’m dying to watch it, but can’t because my girlfriend doesn’t know I snuck into her trunk to find out what I got for Christmas.
Winning isn't everything... but I could get used to this
by homegrowntalent on Dec 23, 2010 11:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The alternate endings for the ’62, ’89 and ’02 series are awesome.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
The depiction of the ’89 hurricane was epic!
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I think you mean “cyclone.” We’re in the Northwestern Hemisphere.
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
the answer
is behind a paywall at Mcc Premium
by PocketfullofPoseys on Dec 24, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Supposedly, they want to convert Runzler into a starting pitcher or at least a long reliever.
Until then, there’s always Affeldt.
Uribe's 20 homeruns
Perhaps a resurgent Pablo and Tejada combine to make up the difference, but I have my doubts.
Martinez is a good story, but I think there are better options out there for long reliever/6th starter.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions
It still boggles my mind how high a percentage of Uribe’s hits were huge in the game context, given his slash line. He really is a major star in all of the DVD’s/TV Specials (regular and post seasons).
I would expect that Giant pitchers would know by now how to get him out – and avoid the pitch mistakes that he absolutely crushes. If not, those LA games will be the essence of “torture cont’d”.
And remember if they do add Joey to the roster, the crucial “Lopez for Bowker” acquisition looks that much better.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Renteria’s the king of hitting home runs at oppportune moments, though.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
that shot off wagner
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 24, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Ohhhhh Christmas Eve Day… KNBR is going to rebroadcast all the World Series games….
damn, gotta go buy more cassette tapes. I don’t see anything on the KNBR website…but I coulda sworn that’s what they just said on the radio.
Why bother if the audio is already on the DVD box set?
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Dec 23, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Um, your ellipses make me uncomfortable.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
People should … use … ellipses … more.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Plus there’s always a line for them at the gym.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t use the ones with those swinging arm dealies. I hate those things! [My arms don’t extend far enough to cover that range of motion.]
Treadmill – 20 minutes
Stationary bike – 20 minutes
Free weights – it depends
I don’t like the elliptical machines either.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
I like the ellipticals, just not the ones with the swingy arm handles.
Right now I do:
Treadmill 20
Weights 10
Elliptical 20
Weights 10
Row or Bike or Stairs 20
I used to do sets of 45 and 15 but I got out of the habit of going to the gym, for various reasons, so I’m working back up, unless I get bored/frustrated again.
You guys are kicking my ass. I get through a few push-ups and it’s a good day.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
You and mrs. nvsfg
this led me to set up an excercise room in on of the spare bedrooms. We’ve got a programable stationary bike, a BowFlex, and an inversion table. There is also a 32" LCD on the wall to keep your mind occupied.
She uses it waaayyyy more than I do.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Yeah, when we move the Mr. wants to get an elliptical for in home use. We have a weight bench, and whatnot, and a ton of exercise videos just not a lot of room to use them.
We have a Schwinn eyliptical
Love it! It has both swingy arm handles AND stationary handles. It came highly recommended and I’d do the same.
The thong is, it happened.
You are the anti-Graham Crakalaalaalaa. That kid would eat 500 pounds of food and lose 15 pounds.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
If only we could trade metabolisms for a week.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki
Joke will be on him in about 7 or 8 years (whenever he turns 25). He’ll eat a candy bar and gain weight.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I gain weight reading his breakfast descriptions.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 23, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
When does this happen? I seem to have missed this.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Early on when he first joined, IIRC… crazy stuff like “today I had 3 bowls of lucky charms and a waffle with maple syrup and whipped cream and chocolate chips”. Really amazing.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 23, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not the only one who finds Lucky Charms really gross, right?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Ray Schalk
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 24, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
They’re too much after a few bites. However, I’m trying to gain weight, and no matter how much I eat like Graham, it’s hard.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 24, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
I hate you. Happy Holidays.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I’m a walker. I walk 4x/week. I alternate days of 2 and 3 miles at home and I generally walk between .5 to 1 mile at work daily. I’ve become a walking fool.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
Elliptical machines are good for not breaking your knees. I don’t do much cardio though, I’m working on my Arnold Schwarzenegger look.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 23, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
I have a mini one at home. Nothing to hold onto, but I like that.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Thirty minutes of that, some floor stretches and crunches, the occasional strength-training thing with elastic bands, and heaving my bulk up and down three flights of stairs every day.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
It’s only in your head … Heard Mayor Gekko won’t resign after all … not until the Supes bow to his will … Gav, kid, maybe you shouldn’t’ve left for an office whose being “higher” is completely arguable … Sleepy lady got woken up by the sharp beeps of the Clipper card reader. Cussed out the whole train … Really, Clipper, be kind to the people sleeping in your trains. It’s Christmas …
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Herb!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
…really?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
VHS to DVD
I got a little device at Costco awhile back (here’s a link to a current version at Walmart) that converts analog signal on RCA jacks to digital via USB. I’m pretty sure it’d work well to create mp3’s from the DVD’s.
More work and more money, I know, but a highly repeatable process. I say this as a guy who has this device but 99% of my cassettes are still unconverted. Maybe because I can get better digital copies of 80% of those at archive.org with a few clicks.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
I have a standalone.
You just pop in the vhs and a blank dvd and press a button.
Amazon sells cheaper refurbished ones. They give you insurance.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
They give you insurance.
Which is just like money !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
I’ve got more than 200 hours of the Today show I need to convert. Not looking forward to that prospect.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Excuse me what?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Archival purposes. Most are editions covering significant news events of the last ten years.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I M 5
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I think that should be the secret McCoven greeting.
When you see someone who you suspect might be a McCoven you ask
“109?”
the appropriate response, of course
“I M 5!!”
That’s pretty darn foolproof. I love it.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
“Situation Tomko.”
“Cain for Fielder”
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
—Rogers Hornsby
No need to say anything
All you need to do is propeller.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent! It appears that we’ll be taking a trip out east to see some snow tomorrow, so this will give me something to do in the car.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Plus, Martinez is pretty good pianist. Always good to have at your holiday get-togethers and whatnot.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
6'2" and 195 lbs
That’s a pretty big pianist!
Bruce Hornsby is 6’4"…that’s a huge pianist
The thong is, it happened.
Don’t tell me that you are suffering from pianist envy!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on Dec 23, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Another championship ring would be nice...
but seriously, pitching depth is always a good thing. Lets all hope Clayton Tanner adjusts to AAA since if any of our starters gets hurt, he seems to be the only logical option at this point, other than Wellemeyerian retreads. David Mixon might be an option too, if we need someone to come up and Sadowski a few starts.
Chris Gloor: my lefty is bigger than your lefty
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 23, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions
I think we’ve got enough young guys that can come up and do a Wellemeyer impersonation for a few weeks (with, you know, some kinda upside). Someone goes down for longer than that, though, we’ll need to look outside the organization.
A Wellemeyer impersonation really isn't that hard
and I can’t really think of anybody in our system that could do that right now.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
there was a reason he was signed in the first place
I know the theory was “middle relief” but…
the closest starters to ML-ready last season are all out of the organization. The Giants were lucky that Wellemeyer was their only injured starter in 2010.
The real Panda
Last year’s was an interloper/anomaly/Dodger avatar.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions
OT: I'd love to see video of this! Kripes...
Fire crews extinguished a fire on a light-rail train this morning, but their first attempt was foiled when the train drove away…
Crews had begun to assess the fire, which was located on the undercarriage of the car and was producing heavy black smoke. As firefighters were standing alongside the car, it drove away.
Fire crews followed the train for nearly a mile and a half before it stopped again.
“You stay there!” He just likes having people to strand on third.
Not that it always works.
But then you score five runs off Cliff Lee, so really, que sera sera.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Schulman reports:
The Giants are very close to re-signing their two most popular free agents: the television team of Mike Krukow and Duane Kuiper. Details on The Splash.
I believe they are about to set the salary record for local broadcasters
I have read they both might be the first 7-figure local broadcasters in history.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
We should offer them arbitration in case they decide to go to another team.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I am glad Vin decided to do another year in LA
It would have sucked if K&K took their act to Los Angeles.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man, that just ain’t right.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
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Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Chill out, hunny bunny.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
We are all a bunch of Fonzies
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Saw that last night on the Indy station.
I’ve been watching that a lot over the X-mas break so far.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 23, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
"VINCENT! Shut the fuck up!"
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
I like the way Jackson’s and Plummer’s arms are synchronized in their movements.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Also, it’s sort of remarkable how well Tim Roth can … sit … perfectly … still.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
It’s also remarkable how good he is at acting while bleeding out on a warehouse floor. Half of that movie is him on the floor. Pretty amazing.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
different movie
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Reservoir Dogs
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 23, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Probably because he's a jedi and is controlling her arms.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Master Windu is the sole adept of a special form of Jedi discipline known as gangsta.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
His light saber is inscribed with "Bad Motherfucker"
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Excellent point.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
AHHH NO
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Would never happen. I’m not just saying K&K wouldn’t do it, but that it would never happen. Physics won’t allow it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Duane:
WIlson delivers
Uribe hits one high
HITS ONE DEEP!
IT"S OUTTA HERE!!!
and the Dodgers have clinched the NL West.
What say you partner?
Mike: Man, I’m glad we dumped those guys, now we’re with real winners.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Ejected

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/ rec’d
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
That would never happen, but I could see Miller going.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
lol
yeah, right.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Dec 23, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Just read this
Talk about a great early Christmas gift—K&K for six more years (at least) calling Giants games.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Don’t mean to be a hater but my dad always says that Duane makes mistakes. He thinks he’s losing his memory or something.
I can’t imagine the Giants without them but they have to retire some day. Some earlier than others, if you get my point.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
FP and Byrnsie will be ready to take over by then!
JT Snow can fill in on weekends.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 23, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed
FP and Byrnsie Aubrey Huff will be ready to take over by then!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well, tickle my pickle aint that a base hit!
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
It would be a bless.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
LOL CANT SPEAKENGLISH GUUD
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Remember when Ted Robinson did the broadcasting for the Giants? Was he fired? Just wasn’t re-signed?
My families big into tennis so every year I see a little bit of him on tv doing Wimbledon.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Dec 23, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
He was resigned.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
IIRC that was Robinson’s decision not to return. I heard though that he will be doing some Cubs games in 2011.
No
He’s doing 25 Twins games.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
unfortunately not with Jim Kaat
it may just be the nostalgia talking, but I’d rather have Robinson and Kaat than Bremer and Blyleven…but instead Robinson will be spelling John Gordon on the radio. Perhaps he can contain Dan Gladden’s complaining.
With good behavior, he’ll only do 20.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 23, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
He left to go do Mets games.
Then the Mets fired him.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Wasn’t that after the 2000 season? When Shawn Estes broke his ankle getting picked off from second in the playoffs?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Damn, dude gets around. According to the wiki:
Robinson worked as a radio and TV announcer for the San Francisco Giants for 9 seasons, as the TV play-by-play announcer of the Minnesota Twins for 6 seasons, as a TV and radio announcer for the New York Mets for 4 seasons, and as the TV announcer for the Oakland Athletics for 3 seasons.
Oh and it’s the Twinkies he’s doing next season.
GET BACK TO THE BASE AND THEN SUFFER, IDIOT!!!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
He was ON the damn base!
At least that’s how I remember it. He hopped off the base without calling time and then got tagged.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Exactly! I was staring aghast at my TV shreiking “CALL TIME FOR FUCK’S SAKE!!!”
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Which reminds me of hearing Eric Byrnes on the radio yesterday
He was cohosting with FP on KNBR. Man, what an annoying dork.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 23, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Has anyone ever seen Byrnes and Jeff Spicoli in the same room together?
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Yes, but I’ve never seen Khalil Greene or Jered Weaver in the same room with Spicoli.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
I did once actually. Man, what a night. Sad story in the end, truth be told.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Byrnes is annoying and not very knowledgeable. Good for him for ripping off the D'backs with an Aaron Rowandesque agreement.
Unfortunately for us his baseball career is over and now we will be inflicted with his TV appearances.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Never understood this
I thought he was great on the Mets games, which I hear a lot of being here in NJ.
by NearestNorwich on Dec 24, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe he wasn’t enough of a homer.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
OK, it can't happen, physics and all...
But for just a second wouldn’t you really like to read how the TB-LA forum would spin it. Kind of like us taking Cody off waivers to prevent the Pads from winning anything. “Ha ha” we got their voice, now they can’t talk trash about us…"
KRUK4FIELDER
you ever been on a real shrimpin' boat?
no, but i've been on a real big boat
by Larry Bamar on Dec 23, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
126 MILLION DOLLARS
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 23, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Biggest need: a power bat
As insurance, in case 2009 Panda doesn’t return in 2011, and for the loss of Jazz Hands, and to counterbalance the inevitable regressing to the mean of at least some of our starters/relievers.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Yep
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
To clarify
I used to poke fun at the repeated calls for a power bat because there were so many things that needed fixing (>RUN DINGERZ.EXE!!). But now that they have some semblance of balance, it makes sense now.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Is Dan Runzler a viable option? I’ve heard the organization sees him as a potential starter.
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
It'll take a year and maybe longer for him to get stretched out
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
I think winter plus ST is long enough to be stretched out as a long-reliever and spot starter, since he probably still won’t o over 80 or 100 innings. Iif he is able to go more than 2 innings at all.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Sure could use another power hitter
Not sure we’ll be lucky with the 1 win games again next year.
"They are an awesome group to have on my side. And on Sundays I always feel a little bad for the other quarterback, but not too bad."-Ben Roethlisberger on the Steeler's Defense-
Are there games where you can get more than one win?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Orange BowLOL
Just for shits and giggles I went on StubHub yesterday to check the prices for Orange Bowl tickets (I have neither the time, money nor interest to fly to Florida for the game). It turns out that you can get a ticket in the upper deck for $12. TWELVE DOLLARS. In other words, it costs less to see Stanford, the #5 team in the country, play in a major bowl game than it does to sit in the bleachers for a Pirates-Giants game at AT&T Park.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
by Kitspool on Dec 23, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think most thought there was no chance it would sell out
I guess they were right. LOLSTANFURDFANS
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
This has nothing to do with Cal
it has to do with Stanford/whoever they are playing being incapable of having fans come to the game.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Likely would be a much smaller issue if they’d ended up in a bowl that weren’t on the other side of the damn country.
But isn't Virginia Tech pretty close? (They are playing VT right?)
It is pretty dumb they play on the other side of the country, but tickets shouldn’t be 12 dollars
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
I think people are sick of the bowl situation
Arbitrarily deciding who is champion is probably wearing thin on football fans in general. My guess is that all bowl games are probably experiencing a drop in attendance. The exception would be the game that computers/writers/coaches decide is the championship game.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I just read Dan Wetzel’s SI article from a couple months back about what a corrupt, Mafia-like group of folks the BCS and major bowls are. It’s pretty jaw-dropping stuff. The cronyism and corruption at work is impressive.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Sure! Here you go.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Dan Wetzel is more handsome than I would have thought.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Here's the real link
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1177192/index.htm
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Are you saying Lancelot Link isn’t real?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I was hoping it would be the Banana Splits
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
My wife thinks I’m insane, but one of the first season passes I got on our new direcTV DVR is for the Banana Splits.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
LA LA LA LALALALA
LA LA LA LALALALA
Uh-oh, CHONGO!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 23, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
She especially remains mystified about my ability to appreciate the charms of Danger Island.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
I was more of a Lidsville fan
Sid & Marty Krofft – bringing their LSD trips to the masses. Now that was a great era for television.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks. Google’ing also produced another thing Wetzel wrote, for Yahoo!, about two weeks ago. So this is what Ari Fleischer is doing these days.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Dan Wetzel is this literally the worst sportswriter on the internet
by kingofthacove on Dec 23, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
This, along with what he has said regarding John Wooden, is why I don't open any of his articles
“Perhaps San Francisco is full of the most naive bumpkins in America, people who actually believe BALCO Barry’s parsed-word explanation that while, yes, he did use the cream and the clear – which federal prosecutors said contained steroids – he did it unknowingly. We certainly forgive those people.”
“Politically correct that we are, we have nothing against imbeciles. But anyone else should be ashamed for lovingly hailing the return of their pathetic slugger in hopes of getting back into the pathetic NL West race.”
by kingofthacove on Dec 23, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Remember a time on the internet when a front page post got like 20 comments? No? Well I don’t either.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
They are
Most teams this year are eating their ticket allotments because fans aren’t willing to shill out a minimum of $50 a ticket when they’re much cheaper at other outlets. Because of this, many many schools are losing money on their bowl games (no surprise), even BCS teams (Stanford, UConn, even Oklahoma according to one source I saw)
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I have just come to the realization that, for me anyway, the use of the word ‘Stanfurd’ is roughly equivalent to having a peeing Calvin sticker on your car.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll try and pick one up as soon as I can. Be patient.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 23, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
SEATTLE (AP) – Adrian Beltre performs as Billy Crocker in the Seattle Metropolitan Theater adaptation of Anything Goes. Beltre has received rave reviews for his portrayal as the lovestruck infielder in the updated version of the 1934 Cole Porter classic. AP Photo/Jimmy Olsen
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
What is this 'ole' bullshit?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Dear Santa, please bring me
The 2011 National League West division title, again. I would like a nice run of 3-5 years of perennial playoff appearances. Probably get can a couple of pennants and even another Series out of that.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Psst — ask him for a brand-new Brian McCann under the tree, too.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Whatever. Even if he is cute, we already have a better version.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Strategically placed bow!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
My parents would freak. But my, wouldn’t it be wonderful?
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Do your parents know?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That Letter works for NPR?
I think they do. And no doubt they are proud, as they should be.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 23, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
/ golf clap
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
They do not. I mean, they do know I work in public radio, but not the other thing.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I have friends who are gay and most of them whose parents didn’t know had moms who really knew. Your dad may not know but I bet your mother suspects. They have that instinct about their children.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
In that case, you gotta sit on his lap and ask him yourself.
Santa’s lap, I mean.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Santa baby, slip a sable under the tree, for me
I’ve been an awful good girl
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight
Santa baby, an out-of-space convertible too, light blue
I’ll wait up for you dear
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight
Think of all the fun I’ve missed
Think of all the fellas that I haven’t kissed
Next year I could be oh so good
If you’d check off my Christmas list
Boo doo bee doo
Santa honey, I wanna yacht and really that’s
Not a lot
I’ve been an angel all year
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight
Santa cutie, there’s one thing I really do need, the deed
To a platinum mine
Santa cutie, and hurry down the chimney tonight
Santa baby, I’m filling my stocking with a duplex, and checks
Sign your ‘X’ on the line
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight
Come and trim my Christmas tree
With some decorations bought at Tiffany’s
I really do believe in you
Let’s see if you believe in me
Boo doo bee doo
Santa baby, forgot to mention one little thing, a ring
I don’t mean a phone
Santa baby, and hurry down the chimney tonight
Hurry down the chimney tonight
Hurry down the chimney tonight
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
I'd be ecstatic if Buster was as good as McCann
It’s extremely unlikely he’ll be better.
My Adopted Giant
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
NRI only
He isn’t worth more than that.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think a larger picture is needed.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Let's zoom in a little closer.
I have a tumblr. I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
YEAH JOEY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah Joey signed ball

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Back up SS
Another SP
Back up C
A reliever
A LH OF
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
by Gobroks on Dec 23, 2010 1:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'd prefer a better defensive SS than RR
I’d prefer more talented players than LOL JAX and Ben Copeland.
As far as reliever I meant more of a late inning guy.
Yeah Joey is fine though
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Dec 23, 2010 1:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
SavvySabes Just saw TRUE GRIT four times in a row. Kept going back to see if Rich Aurilia was in the background. He wasn’t. Misleading title. BS
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
by jhiat00 on Dec 23, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
"Nuts to the backup shortstop -- "
If Edgar didn’t like the idea of signing for $1million, I don’t think he’s going to sign for—-what is that, an elephant’s wage?
geez
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 23, 2010 1:26 PM PST reply actions
OT: rant
ARGH….
Hey Amazon stop using “on trac” !! They stink!!
I’ve been sitting here all day waiting for a package…they just called to say they couldn’t figure out how to get into the apartment complex earlier so now they won’t be here till tomorrow and I should wait for them to call… which will happen sometime between 8am and 8pm… thanks for narrowing that down for me.
Oh and why the hell didn’t you call today, huh?
/throws something
< grumble >
/rant off
Oh man, you too? I hate OnTrac. I’ve been having personal packages sent to work just to avoid having to guess when they’re going to show up.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Complain to Amazon, if that’s who you bought stuff from. That’s basically what I told their customer service people! If enough people complain maybe they will change carriers! [I wonder if OnTrac called me because Amazon called them.]
But yeah, Ontrac is totally unpredictable! I know here at home UPS and USPS both deliver at 10am and FedEx at 2pm they are very consistent. And we can plan our day accordingly. OnTrac’s a crap shoot.
Glad to hear I’m not alone.
Also a viable option: stop buying from amazon!
(I totally broke and bought from them this season… but I plan on not using them in the future).
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
And go to the maul? Ick no!
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
You can order most things online if the cost of shipping is worth not leaving your house.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I fork over $75 a year to Amazon for unlimited free 2-day shipping. I wonder if it’ll get to the point where I buy my groceries through them.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Get off my lawn.
Kids these days have it so easy. We didn’t have free Amazon Prime when I was in school.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
On a related note, I was carded while buying an R-rated movie today. Apparently I don’t look 17.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
you look young, but not 17 young.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
Yeah, I thought it was strange.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
Do you have your work permit in order?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Oh shuddup! We didn’t even have Amazon when I was in school. Hell most people didn’t even have the internet. Lycos was just getting started as I was finishing my masters. Archie, Jughead, Veronica…
I remember when Google was new.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
Al Gore had not invented the intertubes yet when I was in school.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Oh. I have an .edu mail address but I’m a professor.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Might still work? I did it a while ago so I don’t remember what info you have to provide, but I’m a grad student so I don’t think I put down a major
Eh, it says “Amazon Student”. Maybe I could cheat their authentication server but whatever. I already feel guilty buying software from the campus store for <<<< retail.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Just got a new MacBook. If I’d bought a PC I could have had Office 2010 for $15. But community colleges in Ohio don’t exactly cater to their Mac-buying profs from California.
So I’ll just have it for free, thanks.
by Timorous Me on Dec 23, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Campuses in general don’t cater to PCs, because network security is so much more of an issue. Unless you’re at a tech school, the tech folks at a given school will generally endorse Macs because they’re less likely to spread viruses that will blow up half the computers in the network.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
mac
A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I was once a Mac person before I succumbed to the Dark Side. I always wondered about getting a Mac again, though of course now that things are in the “cloud” the whole OS debate is a little quaint.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
Me too. I had a Power PC. That’s a mac.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Mr. Merope is convinced that that day is coming. I question the idea of buying produce sight unseen. Before I had a car I used to use webvan once a month for all the heavy stuff I didn’t want to drag with me on the bus.
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Webvan! I had a lot more disposable income than I do now when Webvan was around and seriously thought about using them. Too bad it turned out their business model would put them eleventy billion dollars in the hole per year.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I use safeway.com
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve seen this. I wonder what that operation is like. I shop there, although less since I got a CostCo membership.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
*I shop at the brick-and-mortar Safeway, that is.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Man, one time I had the flu… no car, Mr. Merope was still in Ohio… Webvan about saved my life! (My apartment at that time was a 30 minute walk or a 60 minute bus ride from a grocery store, and I had a temp of 105º)
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I used Webvan. Loved it. My wife worked there. She loved it.
She found out that she didn’t have a job on the morning news as she got ready to go to work. She didn’t love that.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
She worked for the software development group… 2nd tier support for their internal merchandising applications apparently.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
“Internal merchandising applications” — I have no idea what this means and I actually do want to know.
(I was a software developer for a Los Gatos startup during the boom but we were a rinky-dink operation compared to Webvan.)
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Software for order tracking, inventory and whatever other ungodly retail arcana I am blissfully unaware of.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
Webvan was completely awesome, but then again I was a customer and not a shareholder.
Kozmo.com, I dunno.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 23, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah who the fuck is On Trac and what the hell are they doing fulfilling Amazon? This one guy arrived at like 7 PM.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Was it Brian McCann, because then 7 PM makes some sense.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
/immediately orders a gazillion things via OnTrac
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Yeah if you are lucky they’ll arrive sometime in the next 6 months between the hours of 6 am and midnight!
Just like Brian McCann!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
This used to be California Overnight, right?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
The first On-Trac/Amazon order was like that also for us
Tracking kept saying “no gate code”
I called On-Trac and they said that they added to my delivery address “deliver to main office.”
I’m not sure if they figured it out or not. Hubs is home most of the day, so he can always stalk their tracking, and I ship to my office.
Its easy to get a 6th or7th starter anytime...
With minimal investment. You don’t have to do it during the offseason. The Giants best course right now would be to do nothing and let the season play out. A few months of competition will expose the areas of greatest need, whether it be depth in the rotation or an upgrade at other positions.
Are you telling me we should wait until the waiver deadline in late August to acquire whatever pieces are available in the hopes this cobbled-together bunch of misfits and mercenaries will somehow win a world championship? Impossible!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
YOU’RE ALL JUST KIDS WHO LIKE TROLL
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
It is surprisingly good when barbecued.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I prefer stewed troll.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 23, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I PREFER SEXUAL EXPLOITS WITH ANIMALS
OR POSSIBLY MOLESTING PEOPLE AT BASEBALL GAMES
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I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog
THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES
Your Toddument is inwellemeyer.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
I thought this said "What is the biggest remaining nerd for the Giants?"
There are so many candidates for the position.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Dec 23, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions
Goldfarb sighting!
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 23, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
The Big Sadowski in your chimney

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Dec 23, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions
He signed with the Giants…of Korea.
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by Murray, Present on Dec 23, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
We Get Discount..... Fo' FREE!.... NOW
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Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Dec 23, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Biggest Need?
WE NEED TO WORRY MORE ABOUT THE PHILLIES!
Yeah I guess I am more worried about a Starter than anything else, but even then I am not to worried.
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Another quality starter, nailing down the spare left side of the infield issue, would like to see more options with veteran PHer roles.
I know the stats would show Ishikawa as a viable option but would like to see an upgrade but probably won’t happen considering who we already have under contract. It would be great to get a left-handed hitting backup catcher, someone like Miguel Montero. If we are talking about a wish list, a better leadoff hitter would be great, but unless we are willing to forge a trade, this won’t happen. With where we are, I wouldn’t trade any of our top prospects at least until we get into the season and see how the veterans mend (DeRosa and Mole), and see how the younger guys develop (Posey, MadBum – does the sophomore jinx affect them), Dirty, can we see him develop into the dominant SP that we know he can become? Some question marks, but now we are the defending champs and I am comfortable with the holes that we have. What is Sabes projecting our annual payroll being?
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
The middle infielder backup
I think the 6 or 7 starter is also important, but I don’t think it’s the deal breaker. In theory if Cain and/or Lincecum go out, it won’t matter how solid of a back up starter we have. We’re probably screwed. If it’s Zito or Bad Sanchez, then I think a replacement level pitcher would be decent enough in the interim.
However, I’m just afraid that if we lose a mid-infielder and we’re forced to bring in Crawford, we’ll have a Bocockian mess on our hands.
Some Giants stuff in today's Keith Law chat
Dan McKay (Albuquerque, N.M.)
Any thoughts on Tommy Joseph? His overall line in Augusta wasn’t impressive, but he did have an ISO approaching .170 in a tough environment and as a teenager.
Klaw
I like him – plus power, plus arm. Doubt he’ll ever be an average glove but I do see him potentially becoming a solid regular.
Ray A. (San Francisco, CA)
Keith, you seem to be flip-flopping when it comes to Madison Bumgarner. At first you liked him, then his velocity dropped and you hated him, now after he wins a World Series Game at 21 you think he is back again. What’s the final verdict with MadBum? What is his ceiling?
Klaw
It’s not flip-flopping when his velocity was all over the board. I think he’s a solid mid-rotation guy if he can actually hold his late-season velo in 2010 for an entire season. I don’t love the arm slot, and I don’t think he’ll ever recover all of his former velocity, but he can pitch well with a 50 fastball.
I’m pretty high on Tommy Joseph too.
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Damn those flip flippers.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I wish dolphins would take things more seriously.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Politicians don't flip enough
They change their story but not their positions. For example, Republicans didn’t see any mandate for change in favor of Obama policies when the Dems won in a landslide. Suddenly, after the last election, the Dems are supposed to “listen to the voters.” The one thing that never changed was the reactionary positions of most of the Republicans. That’s why we’ll never do anything sensible like a single payer health system or banning the designated hitter.
by NearestNorwich on Dec 24, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Must see TV!
6-day filibuster on the repeal of the DH.
/CBO scores it as “revenue neutral”
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
It was pretty cold last night
When I went for my evening walk I had to wear several layers. In fact, it was so cold that politicians had their hands in their own pockets.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 24, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Not really, though.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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You think MadBum’s upside is “solid mid-rotation guy”? Because that’s what he’s implying. I usually trust his scouting skills, but I don’t agree with him at all here.
by kingofthacove on Dec 23, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
I think he could definitely be a #2 if he refines another pitch. His fastball is tough to hit, but I think that the more the league sees it, the more he’ll need greater variation in his pitch selection to put up a 3.00-3.50 from year to year.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Couldn’t you say this about a lot of pitchers though? They add pitches to their repertoire as they need to. And from what we’ve already seen…I figure MadBum could be pretty dang good.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Yes, but most pitchers are not 22 and until recently have been two pitch pitchers.
I like Bumgarner a lot, but if he continues to mostly get by on working in and out with his fastball, it’s unlikely to make him a #1 or #2 starter, especially as the league gets a better read on him.
I know it’s not much of a revelation to say that he needs to evolve to stay ahead of the curve, as Lincecum has done. But as good as Bumgarner is, his stuff’s not unhittable.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Eh, ‘tis true. I guess I’m at more of a “worry about it when it happens” point. He’s not even 22 yet…he has time to evolve and to learn.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Given that we’re talking about what he projects as going forward…
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Right, sorry. I didn’t say that very well. I guess I just meant that a) he’s young, b) he does really well with what he already has, c) he has time to learn…conclusion: I don’t think its stretching too much to say he could be a #1 or #2.
And I’m also pretty sure I’m agreeing with exactly what you said…so just ignore me…I’m sleepy…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
The way he’s pitching now, yes.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Thanks for the excellent analysis.
Guys who project as solid mid-rotation guys typically post the 13th best K/BB among 21 year old (or younger) in the expansion era. We see them do it all the time!
by kingofthacove on Dec 24, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
lol, this.
What Mad Bum did in his first 100 innings was historic as a 21 year old. Add to the fact that the fastball is now plus from a left hander, at 90-94, he’s got a chance to be an ace.
Expect a serious improvement in K/9 this year,
by BustaTheRippa on Dec 24, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think that you are undervaluing
Solid mid-rotation guys.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
A solid mid rotation guy is somewhere between a 4-4.5 ERA. A 94 MPH (Law’s assumption when making the statement) throwing lefty with excellent control who was rated as one of the 15 best prospects in baseball projects better than that.
by kingofthacove on Dec 24, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know that 4-4.5 is really the standard for “mid-rotation” in the NL anymore.
In the “post-steroid” era, I’d say a #3 guy should be have an ERA at least a quarter run lower. But I’m probably just splitting hairs here.
I don’t have a good way of looking up teams’ #3 starters this season, but there are a lot of guys substantially better than Barry Zito on that list.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
The third best starter on a team is around the average starter of the league
NL average starter ERA 2008-2010: 4.43, 4.32, 4.07
By just ERA, Zito actually was a solid mid-rotation guy last year.
I’m pretty confident Madison can be below 4 next year. I think he can be hell of a lot better by the time he’s in his prime 5 years from now.
by kingofthacove on Dec 24, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Frankly, I’d be very worried if he posted above a 4.
Again, I see him as middle of the rotation or better, but I’m not expecting him to go up and post a flat 3 ERA again next season. The assumptions here are that for the NEAR future he is more or less WYSIWYG. More exposure to the league and maybe some Verducci effect could be sources of regression, but he’s still solid. In the LONG term, I think that he will mature and develop more offspeed stuff to help keep his fastball lethal, but I can’t know that it will happen. That is why I am being judicious about my predictions with him and am mostly sticking to what I have already seen him do, which is be a guy who thrives on moving his fastball in and out at 90-94, with a low arm slot that is hard to adjust to.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Looking at Fangraphs, I ordered NL starters with 110 innings or more last year by ERA (why 110? because it gives 63 pitchers, or just about ~4 per team in the NL). Putative “#3” starters should be from 33-48. For the record, by this method, Ian Kennedy is the “best third starter” and Matt Cain is the “third starter at best” Chris Volstad is the “worst third starter.” Barry Zito is #38.
The average ERA was 4.16 ± 0.24.You might be substantially underrating how difficult it is to throw that many innings and still put up an ERA below four.
Underrating, maybe, but not substantially. If you make the adjustment I suggested, and drop the expected ERA by a quarter run, then you drop from 4-4.5 to 3.75-4.25. These are obviously not finely tuned numbers by either party, but if you look at the change in average starter ERA as posted by King above, it doesn’t look all that far off.
Remember, if you are look at the aforementioned range, the mean is the most valuable number, in this case the shift from 4.25 to 4.00.
Given your own criteria, there were 37 pitchers who posted an ERA of 4 or below last season… And we can expect that those pitchers will not be distributed evenly across the league, as some teams are better than others, especially where pitching is concerned. If we go by the upper range I suggested, then there were 45 pitchers who fit my “third starter or better” range, 46 if you include Randy Wells at 4.26.
16 teams… 3 pitchers each… third starter ERA of 3.75-4.25… Assuming even distribution (which, again, is generous), every team but two gets a pitcher with an ERA below 4.25. We can call those the Pirates and the Brewers.
Oh, and 15 pitchers posted an ERA in that range, starting from Clayton Richard at 3.75.
So, I don’t feel it’s that much of an exaggeration, if you’re assuming that the team is competitive.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
I don't think I agree
That a solid mid-rotation guy has a league-average ERA, since ERA is inflated by a bunch of shitty #5 pitchers. I think solid mid-rotation guys have ERA’s in the high-3’s, low 4s. Which I think would be awesome if MadBum could be.
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There was an article on THT about this in 2006. That year, the average ERA among #3 NL starters was 4.57, while the average NL starter ERA was 4.66, and I doubt anything’s much different now.
by kingofthacove on Dec 25, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
Accidentally linked to wrong thing.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-good-is-your-4-starter/
by kingofthacove on Dec 25, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
Again, if the average starter ERA in 2010 was 4.07, and the average starter was as good or slightly better than that, than high-3s-to-low-4s is still correct.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
You can’t just subtract half a run and say it’s basically the same thing. Over the last three years, 4-4.5 has been the range, or about 4.3 overall. That’s what a solid mid rotation guy is. Madison’s upside is clearly much better than, especially if he’s throwing 94.
by kingofthacove on Dec 25, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
First, it’s a quarter of a run, not a half. Second, the numbers you’ve listed for average ERA show a pretty clear downward trend over the last few years. I’m just going by the data that you are giving, so I don’t see what you’re on about. Go read my above post. 3.75-4.25 was a perfectly reasonable expectation for a 3rd starter in the league last year.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
So that’s Bum’s ceiling now, eh? Just a High 3’s guy. Outstanding.
by BustaTheRippa on Dec 25, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
That sounds about right.
He needs to undergo a Cliff Lee transformation to get below that range in true talent.
In other words, the ceiling can be 3.50-4.00 ERA but a year of extraordinary luck can bring him down to 3.10; that would represent a ceiling in that range, and substantial change would be needed for a consistent mid-3s ERA to occur.
He has the command, but not the finesse with his secondary offerings. And it remains to be seen whether his added velocity with be retained after the large amount of work he’s done this season. I’d be ecstatic with an entire season of high-3’s. That’s Sanchez territory, that is.
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I'm sure that you now wish to immediately go and vote for him in the Community Prospect Lists.
I saw Tommy Joseph play in HS. Solid prospect and was happy to see the Giants draft him. He didn't hit the cover off of the ball last season but there is always an adjustment to pro ball.
I still think his value is as a catcher. At which level of the minors are they expecting he will begin the season?
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
hmmmm
Rockies Acquire Matt Lindstrom
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I was planning on coming into the thread and saying we needed pitching
Then…Grant….
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OT: The apex of my lunch career
I can’t believe I forgot to mention this until now: Some colleagues and I went out to lunch today. We ended up at this great Americana place just west of Knoxville called…wait for it…Aubrey’s.
And me without my camera.
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this is us asking grant for xmas gifts/players

by BustyPoser on Dec 23, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t realize it moved at first. That freaked me out!
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by NuschlerFace on Dec 23, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Preemptive TWSS
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by NuschlerFace on Dec 23, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
May I come in?

I have a tumblr. I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
This is quite creepy
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This is an awesome .gif
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Creepy
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 23, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
Merry Christmas!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
READ MY HOLIDAY WISHES!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/12/23/1894353/happy-holidays-from-the-scout6-house
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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES
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by giant4life83 on Dec 24, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Damn it . . .
my wishes for the Holiday are merrier than are thine!!!!!!
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
I like that this is important enough for MLBTR to report on.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Where? I can’t find it.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Never mind.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Today is Cody Ross' birthday.
He turns 30.
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The past 12 months of his life read like a script from a made for tv movie!
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straight to DVD!!
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
He Fought Alone: The Cody Ross Story
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Whatever. He just had “San Francisco” written across his chest.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
San Fransisco
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by Murray, Present on Dec 23, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Happy BAOWSS-day!
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Yeah Joey!
then it’s like Javier Lopez only cost us Bowker!
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Dec 23, 2010 5:55 PM PST reply actions
Speaking of former Giants out of a job...
is there a reason why there’s a Fred Lewis jersey hung up on the wall behind the cashier at the Serramonte dugout store?
If you’re not going to sell it, you might as well use it for decoration.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 23, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Cain is supposed to be live on the Hot Stove League show w/Marty Lurie
in a few minutes…if anyone is listening to KNBR…
Game 4 is about to start on CSNBA
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 23, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for the heads up!
Certainly better than the Poinsettia Bowl or reruns of the Colbert Report.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
I don’t even know what channel that would be on.
I like hockey, but I find it more or less unwatchable on a 19" TV.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
I also forget that there I get 2 CSN channels now. Ohai there, Sharks.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Giants championship hat
Which one is your favorite? I’m leaning away from the ‘official ones’ because that penis on the back of the cap really bothers me. And the World Series Champion logo is kind of generic to me.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 23, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions
This one right?
http://www.lids.com/pid/20238085?cpid=froogle#ReviewHeader
Do you know if it has the phallic hardware on the back?
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 23, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
+1
This is what I got.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 24, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
Me too.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll tell ya… I don’t like the hats with all the orange stitching on the bill. All that thread just seems like something that will break, come apart, or unraveled and look really tacky when it does so.
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Nah, then it’s just destructed and trendy.
I don’t like them because I find it unattractive and hard to match. I like the Nike hat, kinda, but I’m not all that big on white hats. I’d rather stick with my classic black Giants lid.
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Et tu, Ribe?
I don’t think that there is more thread on that hat compared to a regular hat. The thread is just orange, not black.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
yeah but it’s orange on a black background it’s going to really look icky when those threads start to go. On regular hats the stitching is usually the same color as the bill.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 24, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
I want to know where I can just get that patch.
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might have it later. A quick search doesn’t show it right now, but they have some pretty cool stuf.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Got my penis hat yesterday as a Christmas gift from my sister!
Yeah!
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Black is the right choice. I don't like the penis hats, I don't like the heavy orange stitching, I don't like the white hats. I'm surprised they haven't marketed a more traditional black hat with just a WS Champ side patch.
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 23, 2010 8:14 PM PST reply actions
/shift-A
Anyone wanna recap the thread for me?
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 23, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions
YEAH JOEY
Word association
MOAR BATZ
Amazon.com
MOAR HATZ
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Hatz?
I'm still in the old thread.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 23, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
RIP
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Oh, they made a comeback.
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Used to be a beer called Blatz
as I recall.
by NearestNorwich on Dec 24, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Nothing particularly epic except we finally got to Kevin Bacon in our word association game.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I wrote a story about a guy named Kevin Schinkenspeck for class this last semester.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 23, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
He had six degrees, and ate bacon for lunch while watching A Few Good Men.
But really, he just wanted somebody to hire him.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
For some reason, I want to read this now.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 24, 2010 3:35 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, this story again.
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We like Joe.
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YEAH JOEY
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 23, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
I think there was a SavvySabes tweet.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 23, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
LOLgando
He and Mike Hampton must’ve been piiiiiiiiissed.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
I'm guessing that in 6 years Kuip will look like this:

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Dec 23, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions
Ugh why is Glen so creepy?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Also an excellent question.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Why does every woman sleep with Don?
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Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 23, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Pathetic nerd named "gallo del cielo"
watches game 4 replay while grading pathetic essays by sophomores.
It’s not as sad as dying in a fire started by Christmas lights, but it’s sad.
Tomorrow will be better. There will be fewer essays, and I get to go feed my friend’s cat while he’s away.
WAHOOOO! Torrez double in Edgar to go up 3-1!!
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 23, 2010 9:34 PM PST reply actions
watches game 4 replay while grading pathetic essays by sophomores
It could lead to interesting comments, like “Your paper starts out deceptively harmless but has a great ending, much like Buster Posey’s eighth-inning homerun against Darren O’Day”.
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
“Your essay goes on and on and never ends, just as Tommy Hunter thought of Freddy Sanchez’s third-inning at-bat.”
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Thank goodness 4 year olds don’t write essays.
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They don’t write at all really…
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“Based on your previous efforts, I had a sense of dread picking up your essay to read. But it went surprisingly easy, much like Brian Wilson’s three-pitch strikeout of Josh Hamilton to end the game.”
by non sequitur on Dec 23, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Come now. You aren’t a nerd.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
Spends X-mas reading Contested Will.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
Buster. Posey.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
I loved
the Ranger’s fan right behind home plate. Immediately put his head in his hands right after Posey made contact with that bomb.
There's MACHINE inside!
There’s a great slo-mo reaction shot on Renteria’s HR in game 5 where in a crowd of Rangers fans, there’s one woman going “Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.”
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?

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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 24, 2010 1:05 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, that looks like game 4. “Joooooooooooosh!” This one’s in a crowd of people, so it’s harder to spot.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
On, could be. Hamilton made the third out in that game, if I remember correctly, so your answer would make sense.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Actually, they cut to this right after Posey’s HR in Game 4
by BustaTheRippa on Dec 24, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
I recorded this game.
It was after an Andrus flyout to right.
by BusterHomerun on Dec 25, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Wow that lady has a big mouth, could handle just about.....
nah, kids are around here on school break.
SAAG!
She was hungry for Indian food.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
They just couldn’t handle the torture…
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We, on the other hand,
are so used to it that we’re hoping for more next year. (Actually, I’d rather lead wire to wire again; that was real nice.)
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 24, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t end as well as the torture. /Purgatory
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by shanghaijim on Dec 24, 2010 2:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yikes, it would be just like this team
to win 50 one run games next year. You can tell the Giants fans, they’re the ones with the permanent twitch and tremor.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Delightful silence after the Posey-bomb.
“Numb,” says Kruk.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh.
Is it March yet?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
#1 Giants need = Pablo
We won the WS in spite of his crap year… A .290/.320/.400 Panda with 15-20 HRs would do a hell of a lot for this lineup… and we all know he could do even better than that.
Pablo hit .268/.323/.409 last year with 13 homers.
I would prefer he improve on that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
lol you’re right! What’s up with my low expectations? I guess it really was that painful.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 24, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
My preseason prediction for him is going to be something like .300/.350/.475. I’ll figure out the exact numbers when Grant runs the series.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
At first I was outraged… I didn’t think Howie’s comment was petty or bullshit.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 24, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I always get bullish and bearish mixed up.
Mostly, I think I’m just predicting that the average goes back up. It’s still only, what, an .825 OPS. Very Randy Winn circa 2002 esque. The walk rate is probably waaaay too high, but the overall product is right about what I see happening if the average goes back up around .300. And I can put more thought into the walk rate later.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 24, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
PRO TIP
Remember that, while plenty awesome, bears hibernate. Bulls just gore the shit out of Spaniards. So you should be pessimistic about someone sleeping a season away, and optimistic about an animal goring the shit out of Spaniards.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
is it?
career: .305/.356/.484
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I guess it really depends on whether you think he’ll a) find his dinger.exe power and b) his BABIP goes back up.
Yea and I understand why some people might not project him to improve much over this season, but I can see a pretty good argument for him to be even better than he was in 2009. I know most of us would be thrilled if he’d settle in around his current career averages, but I think he’s just probably one of the toughest guys in the league to project for next season. Honestly, I wouldnt be totally shocked if he went .260/.310/.400 or if he went .340/.390/.550 next season.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Guys his age often have better years than their first full major league season. Doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
cue the “regression to the mean” argument.
by BustaTheRippa on Dec 25, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Now if we only had the faintest damn idea as to where the “mean” even is with Sandoval, I’d call it progress at this point.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
Well, since we don’t, the safest thing to do is to regress to league average. And being better than his 2009 season is well above league average.
yes, and being below or around his 2010 production is well below his league average. Thats all I was saying.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I'm guessing . . .
That Pablo springs forward. Divorce is hell -especially with a young child. Pablo’s mind was way out of the strike zone last year. I believe he’ll rebound but I’m not sure we’ll ever see 25 HRs in a season for him again. It wouldn’t, however, surprise me to see .315/16 HRs/88 RBI. He’s a key - maybe even THE key — for the 2011 Giants.
Don't believe everything you think.
Divorce is hell, maybe even THE key – for the 2011 Giants.
/takes off glasses
My god.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 25, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
For my special Christmas post
I want Albert Pujols as a backup.
And then bring back Barry!
Until next time, McCoven.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Speaking of awesome fan reaction GIFs
On my Christmas wish list: a GIF of that Braves frat boy punching the air in frustration after Cody Ross hits the “streak of lightning across the Georgia night sky” in NLDS game 4. I swear that guy just gets funnier every time I watch it.
Aaaaaaah baseball on the radio.
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Ha ha Clif Lee. Yay Freddie!!!
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Line Drive….Left Field…. OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yay!!! On Trac showed up!! I have a life again!!!
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Accroding to NORAD, Santa is currently in Omsk, Russia
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 24, 2010 9:19 AM PST reply actions
Thank goodness we ratified the New START treaty
Way to quack, lame ducks!
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Hmmmm Ramon Ramirez in the 9th? Time to go to the gym!!
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I am NOT going back out there today!!!
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Listening to Giants baseball on KNBR
It’s December 24.
Is it okay for me to give Matt Cain a standing ovation from my kitchen when he walks off the mound in about 25 minutes?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I’m so in the tank for Matt Cain that I completely forgot what a stressful 5th and 6th inning he had that game. I remembered him cruising through it.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
It’s almost time for Walk ’em Texas Rangers…
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Meh. Ron Washington could've brought out Feliz in the 8th instead, and Giants would still have shut them out.
Either Cain comes back out to complete it, or Fear the Beard.
by BusterHomerun on Dec 25, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
Alright, let’s put it this way: Derek Holland and Matt Cain: Co-MVPs for saving me from having a coronary during Game 2.
Don't forget the invisible force field at the center field wall.
I actually just remembered Lopez actually came in to get the last out of the 8th. I keep forgetting because he must have been on the mound for all of two minutes.
by BusterHomerun on Dec 25, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
My seats are in the 4th Row in Section 102, right in front of the opponents' bullpen. When O'Day started warming up, we started chanting: "O'Day, O'day, O'day O'day,....O'Day, O'day! ...like that Soccer Chant. The chant swept up the entire McC Cove Sect
by Repeat SF Nation on Dec 24, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I was at a game like six years ago
and the WHOLE STADIUM got in on the “WHOOOOOP… whoooo” chant during each pitch.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 24, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I was in the bleachers in 2000 and 2001 when the late Mike Darr was playing LF for the Padres and everyone spent the game doing various chants of his name.
We did Dragnet: “DARR….DarrDarrDARR…DARRDarrDarrDarrDARRRRRRR!”
We did Star Wars: “DARRDARRRR….DarrDarrDarrDARRDarr….”
and so on, for nearly nine innings. It was pretty inspired.
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RIP Mike Darr. Here's hoping your two boys you left behind have a Merry Christmas.
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OK I feel dumb.
Dang… wish I could be listening to the games today.
Duh. I could be listening online.
knbr.com. got it, there now.
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Discipline for Panda is all I want for Christmas...
by Repeat SF Nation on Dec 24, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions
Can we trade for Rafael Betancourt or something?
You can never have too many relievers…
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
LOL Rangers
7 Giants runs scoring after two out in the 8th.
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The Padres have reached an agreement with Brad Hawpe on a one-year deal.
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Listening...
Listening to the wild 8th inning of WS game 2 while out shopping. Pretty amazing. “Rentawreck” and Rowand knocking in 4 runs. Etc.
Lots of remarkable things to remember:
-TOP: The Giants actually won the World Series. And are the 2010 WS Champs. Never gets old or less startling to recall that.
-Misc: How little overall stats, assumptions, national or local or rabid fans’ opinions or perceptions matter on a moment to moment basis. (See remarkable performances at important times by Rentaria, Rowand, Uribe, etc.)
-More Misc.: Despite the perception, Bochy and Sabean guided this very weirdly wonderful team to the championship and become the WS 2010 winners. How likely was that? Especially if you read this blog from time to time!
-The BIG BAT: The Giants never did get that big bat the fans so loudly demanded. And yet; WS 2010 champs! And scored a ridiculous amount of runs from time to time (how many in the first two games of WS?)
-Giants couldn’t score with two outs. Except in the post season.
It all makes this off season very different and relaxing.
And, finally, the Giants really, actually, finally, decisively won three post season series against “better” teams and are the 2010 WS Champions.
Wow.
by opguy on Dec 24, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
wtf knbr?
Did anyone else hear that? The broadcast switched from Kruk and Kuip to Jon Miller and Joe Morgan mid inning.
Hi Flem!
by RichHerreraHomer on Dec 24, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions
If I'm remembering correctly
That actually happened during the game in question (3?). KNBR’s feed to the broadcast booth in Texas crapped out temporarily, maybe just a half-inning, so they went to the ESPN Radio feed while they fixed the problem,
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Oh yeah.
I remember that now.
Hi Flem!
by RichHerreraHomer on Dec 24, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like this team needs big, shiny rings. I don’t know why or where they would get them, but if the team doesn’t get some rings by opening day at the latest, we could be in trouble.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
On the other hand...
big shiny and heavy rings might slow down their swings and turn them into a low scoring offensive team. On the other hand the rings might add extra sink (not stink) for the pitching staff.
OT
According to the Giants schedule on their website, the first Sunday night game on ESPN 2 will be Giants at Dodgers on April 3rd (note: still no official word on March 31 but I would consider it likely). The Giants are also scheduled for the maximum 9 games (the most a team can appear on FOX is 9) on FOX regional Saturday games.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Looking at the other games scheduled for FOX the same day as when the Giants are on. There is little chance of Buck/McCarver doing the games as when they play the Yankees, Cardinals, Phillies and Red Sox are playing at home or each other in the case of Yankees-Red Sox.
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Fun day today
Spent the whole day in the car, since the family decided to go up past Placerville and see some snow. Got to catch Games 2 and 5. I now have a huge grin on my face.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I listened to 1, 2 and the last part of 5.
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Why did you listen to these games when you own the DVD set?
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‘Cuz we haven’t opened the box set yet, ‘cuz I was doing other things where I really couldn’t watch the tv anyways…and ’cuz I wanted to …so nyah!
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although you won’t get the postgame stuff on the DVD set. I happen to turn on the radio and the post game after game 5 was on.
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I was kind of surprised that they played Game 3.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
pfffffffffft in 03 before the season started they reran the 02 World Series complete with game 6 and 7…
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wtf why
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I think they did it over the course of a week… like a midnight replay game, tho I could be misremembering.
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…to build excitement for the upcoming season? or something.
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Yeah, I happened to turn on the radio just at the right part of Game 5, when Aubrey squared up to bunt. Then I listened all the way until the celebrations.
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Radio
There is a special magic that happens with baseball on radio that does not happen with dvd or even live tv broadcast, playing out as an imagination movie in your mind while you carry on doing other things, not just stuck on your couch potato couch.
Especially with good announcers painting great word pictures.
IMHO!
OT
So what is the best bar to find a Bloody Mary in New York?
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damn
I was just going to comment on that! WTH is with this damn bloody mary crap all over my sports blog?!?! Hey SBN !!! Some of us don’t drink!! And I’m thinking right now that if I did drink it wouldn’t be whatever the hell you make bloody mary’s with!
PS I also will not be buying a Honda or anything associated with that creepy Ovechkid!
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It's an NFL thing
Countdown to the first games tomorrow. I agree. It is dumb. I will not be watching their mass-produced pseudo-sport.
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Oh I know what it’s for… but are there 3 separate ads on the same damn page. Overkill is annoying.
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So is the NFL.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I would recommend the Side Bar, 4 out of 6 people prefer to a couple other places.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Dec 24, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
One need? Another championship
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
especially after watching the replay just a bit ago… aight, gonna lift for a bit, then get back to commenting… But a merry christmas to rotoreuter since he’s out there on the East Coast Time… And to everyone else who is East of the Pacific Time Zone! MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Hey it’s Pika! I thought you were stuck in a snow drift somewhere!
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Actually, while i was driving back
i was driving from Cleveland to St. Louis on Monday, and i left around like 5… Got around Chicago and all the sudden a massive blizzard came, there were like 10 accidents within a half hour, plus i couldn’t see the lanes. Guy in front of me spun out, i almost spun out changing lanes… got stopped so snow plows could plow the roads, finally found I-55 to go to St. Louis and an hour south of Chicago it finally cleared up
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OMG MERRY CHRISTMAS WEST COAST!!!!!!
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Merry Christmas!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 25, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
/gets all sloppy
Merry Christmas to everyone!!!!!
omg its all so b’full i love you all
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 12:53 AM PST reply actions
OMG I REMEMBER MY FIRST BEER!!!
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Nope . . .
unless it happened during the period that remains unaccounted for.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Merry Christmas right back atcha!
It truly is boo-full, and we wish you all nothing but the best tomorrow and all of next year. That does, of course, include lots more postseason play by the Giants, amirite?
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 25, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions
Make sure to wish a Merry Christmas to Mr. owlcroft from the McCoven family.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I also send regard to mr. owlcroft . . . and mrs., of course.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
/Christmas hugs
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 25, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Merry Christmas McCoven!
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 25, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Holy Shit
Is this right? Via Jayson Stark on ESPN.com:
How sweet are the swings of Joey Votto and Buster Posey? They didn’t hit a single popup to the infield all year. No kidding.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
I see I missed a discussion about my metabolism. Weird.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 25, 2010 2:30 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Pffffft just be glad you have one.
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HE’S POOPIN’!
(All the time)
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by howtheyscored on Dec 25, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I used to say that pooping is my primary means of weight loss, but then I learned that there is an eating disorder where people take laxatives to stay thin, and now it’s not so funny.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 26, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Merry Giant Christmas!
Christmas shopping for me was EASY this year. I got a Giants shirt and a hat and a WS pin and Lincecum bobblehead and the Willie Mays book. It’s been a long time since I got so much Giants gear for Christmas and it feels like I’m a kid again. Thanks, Giants!
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 25, 2010 9:15 AM PST reply actions
I got an orange Andres Torres jersey…it’s got this weird patch on the left shoulder….something about a World Series? Guess I’ll have to take it back for a non-defective model.
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Front page of The Sporting Green today . . .
identifies the Twelve Days of Giants’ Christmas.
. . .
9 Swings and Misses (by the Braves against Timmeh in the second inning)
10 Seasons in waiting
11 Different lineups (in 15 games)
12 Runs allowed
And, in the choral verse: 5 Game six relievers
See it all at sfgate. Fun.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 11:00 AM PST reply actions
Yeah, I saw that last night before the power went kerflooey…
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Where'd the power go off? Sac?
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Off to Chico, CA for Christmas from the South Bay...
This will be a fun drive especially in the rain… at least it’s not snowy like it was in Chicago
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You’ve been doing a lot of driving, haven’t you??
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I don’t know why there are two question marks there.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Inquisitive bastard.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 25, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, you drunk yet?
But yea, i dont mind it to be honest, i just put some good music on and just jam out, i love it.
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I got the 8 DVD set and a Stanford-colored snuggie.
10/10 Christmas
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Giants won the World Series = 10/10 Christmas
:D
(I gave my dad the 8 DVD set, and he was pretty ecstatic.)
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
speaking of the 8 dvd set...
we got it for xmas as well, and it looks incredible…the 5 world series games, 2 of the most exciting NLCS games, and a bonus disc that has highlights from the season.
incredible
I got it, too.
Did you read the highlights of the bonus disc? NL Clinchers, NLDS highlights, Posey’s hit streak, his first hit and first HR, Juan Uribe’s 2 HR inning, and… Matt Cain’s 1-hitter? May games on a World Series box set ftw.
The Giants won the 2010 World Series. Your argument is invalid.
Et tu, Ribe?
one problem
The alternative audio tracks appear to be only for the World Series games, not the two NLCS games. Just Buck and McCarver there. Bleah.
by non sequitur on Dec 25, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
We haven't opened presents yet
But my signature rib roast is in the oven. It smells so yummy.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Merry Christmas everybody.
Hope everybody is having a good day. Oh yeah also it’s my birthday tomorrow.
Hella.
Merry Christmas
Kids came through with Flying Squirrels cap and shirt!
Sweet
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Is it the flying rodent cap or the big “R” with the squirrel tail? Both great. Tried to find them when I was in Richmond last spring, but got the funniest looks at the sporting goods stores (Squirrels were on the road then).
For me:
2011 “Hallowed Ground” Calendar
On-field Giants cap (all black) w/ World Series patch.
5-pin numbered Postseason pin set.
(and I’m Jewish) :) … Merry Christmas everyone!
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Merry Christmas, McCoven.
8-DVD box set
Giants hoodie and championship shirt
And I just looked in the fridge and there is BEER EVERYWHERE THANK YOU SANTA.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
I would doubt it... but who knows
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A verry merry Christmas indeed, being 22 years old, i dont need much to have a merry Christmas, all i got was a Stephen Curry jersey, and some money, as well as some chocolates… But honestly? The best Christmas present is:
1. being home,
2. graduating,
3. a world series trophy
4. having my girlfriend come out for the first time ever to California in May
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Wouldn’t that last one be more of an International Workers Day present?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 26, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
That will be interesting…how do prepare an Ohioan for Northern California?
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OT: Job Hunting?
So judging by today’s performance thus far… it looks like there may be a coaching vacancy in SF…
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LOL TROY SMITH
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 26, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions
LOL commentators comparing Singletary’s decision to the 49ers’ dilemma in choosing between Joe Montana and Steve Young.

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