A note on the ballpark...
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2010 12:34 PM PST
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PrintGiants: The double deal-killer here is that the Giants can't compete financially for the ultra-elite hitters, and the sub-great hitters don't like the ballpark. Frankly, it scares them.
The right side of the outfield is too deep. The only way the Giants will ever sign a lefty power hitter in his prime is if they put Barry Bonds in a time machine.
The ballpark problem is fixable, but the current ownership won't hear of any dimension alteration.
-- Outlook grade: C-plus. As long as right-center is Acres of Outs, the Giants will be off-limits to free-agent lefty hitting stars, and some righties.
This is from Scott Ostler in today's Chronicle, and it's one of my pet peeves. Mays Field is not a huge pitcher's park. It's not even a pitcher's park -- it plays like an average ballpark in terms of runs scored, and it has for a while. This isn't a breaking story.
Now, Jayson Werth might not know this, so he might think, "Man, I would not want to play there!" But Werth's agent, who makes more money if Werth does, knows that right-handed hitters do just fine in San Francisco. That's an agent's job.
Free agent player: Hey, I don't want to play in San Francisco. My stats will suffer.
Agent: Nah. That's a myth. I can show you the studies if you want; AT&T Park is a pretty neutral park. It might cost you a couple of homers a year, but you'll also get more triples. If they have the best offer, take it.
Free agent player: Okay.
I don't expect the free agent to know if reporters, columnists, and radio personalities don't know this, but the agent knows. He conveys the point to the player in five seconds.
The park does affect left-handed home runs, though. So where the Giants are semi-hosed is with left-handed power hitters coming off a down year, who are looking to sign a short-term deal, hit the snot out of the ball for a year, and parlay that into a big-money deal. Like Adam LaRoche. Or Aubrey Huff. So let's make the power alleys 355 feet because we keep missing out on players like Aubrey Huff. Makes sense to me.
I like the people who suggest that the park should be changed, actually. They're very considerate. They let me know quickly that they are filled with nonsense, and that saves me the time of trying to figure that out on my own. Mays Field is perfect, and that's the last word on the subject.
PERFECT. Well, I could do without that stupid Chevron car hump that sticks out over the left-field fence, and even a good ballpark can't change the fact that hot dogs are usually made from roach droppings, old VHS tapes, and possum meat, but other than that, it's perfect.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions
MOVE IN THE FECES
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by Scooter Ellis on Dec 12, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
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by jctGamer on Dec 12, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this is the correct answer.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 13, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
Move the cove back.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 11, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha, where’s bondslegend to talk about how awesome Minny is
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
He’s under 6 ft. of snow
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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
sucks to be him...
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His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Here, too. I just got back from North Carolina, and I am not ready for this Ohio winter crap.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I keep thinking he’s in North Dakota.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I could do without some of the advertising.
But then again, I like when the Giants have the money to sign good players.
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i prefer when they have the money to sign bad player, but get good players magically
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by JohnnyDangerously on Dec 11, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
comment from the stupid Ostler article
The BayArea just is not a fervent sports area like the northeast or other parts of the Midwest. There are too many other things to do for fun in California.
“Or other parts of the Midwest?” I can think of two interpretations: either the the northeast is part of the midwest. or California is part of the midwest.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Mike Krukow agrees
“If you’re not giving a good effort in San Francisco, the fans get on you,” said broadcaster Mike Krukow, a former Giant who spent part of his career pitching in Philadelphia. "But the intensity level of hate here is probably 30 percent of what it is in Philly. People here can head to the beach, or go up to wine country and calm their anxieties.
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That doesn’t really say that we aren’t as fervent. That just says we have better ways to cope.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think it says we're not dickish douchebags
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by Goofus on Dec 11, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Just because we don’t treat every visiting team and their fans like an invading force and use negativity as a surrogate for passion doesn’t mean that our dedication is one iota less than the most “fervent” or “intense” than any other fan base in the world.
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by waelwulf on Dec 11, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The implication is the one I prefer: sports fanaticism in the East Coast is pathological.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
So we’re devotees rather than fanatics.
Caution to anyone who mistakes our congeniality for lack of passion.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
I heard somewhere that “fan” comes from fancy. I fancy the 2010 World Champion Giants!
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I fancy them so much I get...difficult...sometimes.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Fan comes from "fanatic"
and I think was first used for English soccer fans. In Spanish it’s still “Fanatico.”
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
We're not psycho on this side of the country
Aside from Dodgers fans
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
All that means is that the typical fan in SF is not a boorish dillweed like the average fan in Philadelphia, Boston or New York.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Until very recently, I never heard people actually talking about the Giants on the streets or around much at all. In NY? All the time, both Yankees and Mets. Now, it might be grousing because Posada doesn’t have enough RBIs or Jeter lost his clutch or something, but people are into it.
Now I hear random people on BART or whatever talking about the Giants, or in passing on the street or whatever. Very refreshing.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
But the brats and sheboygans are made of angels’ dust and are less than 10 dollar.
I can see power hitters avoiding Petco like the plague, but Pac Bell, come on man. If you can turn on an inside pitch, the right field porch is shortish. And it’s still the reigning World Series Champs!!!
If the ballpark made the Giants miss out on Jayson Werth’s contract, only makes it more perfecter.
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I’ve always kind of liked (!) Ostler. On the continuum of sportswriter/columnists he seemed less the like the willfully offensive Bill Plaschkes and Jay Mariottis of the world and more like a very poor man’s Dave Barry.
by non sequitur on Dec 11, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
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by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
He has his moments...
…But if I read him I tend to read him for the occasionally amusing quote rather than for actual content.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, that’s entirely why I read him — for the funny. It’s why I compare him to Dave Barry. Barry’s primarily known as a humorist, but he also does good sportswriting. He does more “human interest” stories (I hate that term, though) than what we generally consider “sports analysis”, but he’s good. Ostler is not as funny and doesn’t pick as good stories to write, but I’d reservedly put him in the Barry genre of writers.
by non sequitur on Dec 12, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Ostler
I liked him when he was with the LA Times, but in retrospect maybe that’s because he was the only one who wasn’t relentlessly pro-LA teams.
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With all due respect, mrs. owlcroft,
you are just plain wrong here, if you are serious with your comment.
I’ve spent my not so short life reading columnists, sports and otherwise. Indeed, like with movies and music, one’s taste gets involved, but it isn’t lack of breadth or experience that causes me to say that Ostler is among the best at giving a personal and amusing take on an event or an athlete.
I began reading him in the ’70’s in LA. His voice was young and snarky and fresh, and it still is, though some of the snark is gone. In some respects he was in training to be Jim Murray, but he managed to become himself. I don’t go to him for the news. That’s not the point. The Bay Area is lucky to have him and Jenkins. I have trouble understanding how a fan could think otherwise.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 12, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Oh my God Bruce Jenkins is terrible.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
Oh my God!!!
We agree on something!
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Jenkins? really??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This might be an age thing, guys,
but please understand than Gallo has been reading sports columnists from many many cities since the ’50’s, and I think you all (howie/Guy/jp, and no doubt others) are wrong. Jenkins and Ostler might not be to your taste. Fair enough. But they are not terrible. They aren’t even close.
Perhaps I entered The Chronicles after everyone had already decided that the Chron writers were clueless. I didn’t realize that a general opinion existed. I know that many go elsewhere for their news and commentary. I come here (McC) and to various print outlets, principally the Chron and the Bee. I feel well served by these dailys, both in news and amusing commentary.
I’d welcome hearing your specific reasons for denigrating the writing of these two. I’d also welcome opinions on the other Chron writers and print columnists in general. Do any of them have a clue or a worthy take?
Perhaps this deserves a Fanpost of its own.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 12, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
careful, they make fun of TJ Simers lower in the thread!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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The way I see it… is like anything that has to do with “entertainment” – sometimes it’s a hit, and sometimes it’s a miss. Even your favorite television show will have an episode that’s not so great, or musician will make a song that you just didn’t enjoy. Columnists are no different… sometimes they’ll be good, sometimes they’ll be bad.
The Bay Area’s best on baseball? Mr. Andrew Baggerly. No doubt.
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With Jenkins, I guess I don’t have a problem with his actual writing (though I think he’s far, far better writing about tennis than baseball), but his opinions and views on baseball are almost always completely wrong.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah. I don’t really take any issue with the way he writes. The things he writes about baseball are almost always either woefully outdated or, well, wrong.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
The prime example would have to be his landmark series on pitch counts the other year.
I believe he did do the Chron’s World Cup coverage, though. So he gets a few points from me for that.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Jenkins is entertaining. He’s often wrong, but he’s a damned good writer. That’s so, so, so much better than the Simers or Mariottis or Chasses of the baseball world. That goes for him and Ratto both.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Ratto’s style of writing actually does bug me. He’s so self-consciously bombastic.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
Ratto has interesting things to say, and he was great at the “Out” screening at the Castro.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
Sadly his column does not always contain those interesting things, and the whole Christmas sweater/grumpy schtick gets a little old on TV.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t recall the pitch count articles or his position regarding it. I have my own, and it might differ from his or yours. That doesn’t influence the fact that he is an informed and enthusiastic writer with humor and style. He and Ostler also have expertise in several sports, as you both acknowledge. I expect no less from a professional sports writer, and they both deliver.
I’ll take a dive here: Y’all use these institutional periodical writers as emblems of an earlier age, one that doesn’t have your metrics or your attitudes. They are condemned not for their failings but because they represent that era’s take, whatever that might be.
Howie, we’re all wrong most of the time. I don’t think Jenkins’ rightness is the issue here. Jenkins has the privilege of being “Dead Wrong in Public.” You do too, I guess, but your public is much smaller and has a cat’s memory. I think it’s good that you or I don’t control the Giants’ roster. Will you predict the NL West better than he next year?
No, the antipathy to Chron writers is a generational thing . . . and so be it. Hey, I hang out with teenagers all day, and some of them are way smarter than I am. They aren’t wiser, though, and Gallo ain’t that fucking wise.
Today’s analysis and sensibility allow us fans to know everything quantifiable about a player. This includes the player’s rap sheet and off-field persona. That doesn’t make us brilliant. I don’t expect my sportswriters to be so either. They are simply closer to the action than I.
Neither Jenkins nor you nor I would have made the moves that allowed the Giants to win it all this year. Saber-based decisions wouldn’t have done so either. The Giants’ front office made several important moves based on the gut. Daily columnists write the same way, except they aren’t accountable for the results beyond my amusement.
We, at best, are pundits and snipers. Jenkins and Ostler and Simers and Hano and Falls and Baggs and Gwen and . . . well, they all have my respect, as does the next kid whose name appears over a daily piece of amusing or informative writing. I can’t say the same about radio “hosts.”
I reserve the right to have my own lame opinion . . . as do y’all, I’m sure.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 12, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 12, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like you’re reading a hell of a lot into what I’m putting down.
I don’t look at it as a matter of era. There are a lot of things that have been revealed recently to be simple common sense, things that maybe weren’t previously because they hadn’t been quantified or we hadn’t thought to look in that direction yet. The limits of W/L% for pitchers. The importance of OBP. The inherent dangers of pitching a lot. These are not crazy saber stats. I’m not expecting Bruce Jenkins to deal in WAR or wRC or BABIP-adjusted OPS+ or whatever. But there are simple things that used to be in the dark, and that we have now shone the light on. OBP is as simple as it gets. Run support is as basic a concept as you find in baseball. Guys have been losing their careers to their shoulders and elbows for decades. These kinds of things are now widely acknowledged things, and it’s the prerogative of the Bruce Jenkinses of the world to defend the anachronistic notions that preceded them.
To that point, I don’t think that it’s a matter of era at all. I don’t identify as new-age fan or a gen-y reader. I’m not raging against those who came before me. I don’t feel the upstart cub’s need to challenge the head of the pride for any reason. I’m happy to sit at the feet of those whose experience eclipses mine. I’m not so presumptuous not to.
I don’t take a swipe at Jenkins because he represents an era past. I take a swipe at Jenkins because he represents a mode of thinking that is simply too proud or too hard-headed to account for simple changes where simple common sense – not “my metrics”, whatever you appear to think those may be – asks for it.
But beyond that, I think you’re making a very odd jump here. I’m not exactly sure how this went from a very broad-based criticism of Jenkins to a discussion of our individual merits as baseball executives. I am as happy as you are that I don’t control the Giants roster. I don’t see what that has to do with Jenkins, but I’m happy about it.
I don’t ask Jenkins to make accurate predictions. I don’t ask him to suggest brilliant trades or to discuss the intimate details of contracts that should or should not be signed. I do not ask him to write about VORP 5.0. I ask him only to say things that make sense given some of the very basic things that we understand today. That we may not, as fans, have understood some of these things 15, 20, 25 years ago isn’t a reason to struggle against them.
You seem to be making a judgment, or – if not making one – suggesting a judgment about my wisdom. I’ll let pride fall by the wayside and grant you the benefit of being the wiser party. Two-, three-fold wiser, almost certainly. But I never questioned the wisdom of Jenkins. Furthermore, I never questioned the quality of his writing. I never questioned his intelligence. I don’t ask him to be brilliant. I don’t expect him to be brilliant. I expect him, very simply, to be aware of what are now well-known things that he willfully ignores. Things that today’s lay-fans are aware of. You’re pulling threads from the air that simply aren’t inherent to the thoughts I expressed. Or, at worst, the thoughts I tried to express.
And I never said that Jenkins does not have my respect. I understand that his work on tennis is exemplary, and I enjoyed what he wrote during the World Cup. Furthermore, he’s survived – and continues to thrive – in a dying, or at least rapidly changing, industry. He has my respect.
He just doesn’t, by and large, have my readership.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
what howie said
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Thanks for the expansion, howie.
I guess I understood your unqualified, freestanding use of “terrible” to cover more than just the blind spot to contemporary metrics. I had only the words of the brief post to go by, and the words gave a blanket condemnation.
Howie, you and jponry have both studied lit. Don’t all writers have a blind spot, even the great ones? In fact, they are sometimes interesting for what they don’t see or don’t address. Many fine writers created their masterworks while clinging to archaic sensibilities. It doesn’t make them terrible.
I agree that part of Jenkins’ job should include teaching himself the rudiments of modern player evaluation. Not doing so has cost him readers . . . but it doesn’t make him “terrible.”
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 13, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Well, when I called him “terrible” I wasn’t really working from my “thoughtful” mode. You can take is as firm hyperbole.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
The really galling aspect of this is that it comes from the Chronicle.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2010 12:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Thereally gallingtotally unsurprising aspect of this is that it comes from theChroniclewire service broadsheet.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve got your galling aspect right here, shanghai.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 12, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Jerry Callo?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
But roach droppings, old VHS tapes, and possum meat together is delicious!
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions
Aubrey Huff sez:
If you hit it to right center and don’t get a home run, you’re not running hard enough.
"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
Free AnVil!
by capnk on Dec 11, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Aubrey Huff: Career 162-game HR average: 25.
Aubrey Huff: 2010 HRs: 26.
QED, bitches.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t Huff complaining about the park in the beginning of the season? I remember something like that.
He was certainly aware of it. The inside-the-parker where DeRosa made him needlessly slide to the plate was actually his first HR at AT&T.
by non sequitur on Dec 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
He was complaining early in the season. Which is one of the reasons I like that he did pretty much exactly what he has always done over the course of the year.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
He had post-it notes in the clubhouse for each home run Mays Field robbed him of.
by shaolinironlion on Dec 11, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
That must’ve single-handedly put 3M in the black this year.
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by lurkers UNTIE on Dec 11, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
you guys remember that 1 he missed
against the Padres off Mike Adams that he hit to the right of dead center in the 8th inning with the Giants down 3-1? it would have tied the game. i think it was in August. one of those moments where i thought it wasn’t our year
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
someone post
the gif of him running on the bench.
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The car upsets me as well.
But I am sure the Giants get quite a bit of dough for that eyesore.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions
It did once lead to a highlight that KNBR played in promos for YEARS.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
damn it! Now I owe you a Coke….
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by Little Napoleon on Dec 11, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
He probably meant cocaine.
(As an aside, I do not recognize this “Jinx you owe a coke nonsense.” The CORRECT jinx rules are that, once jinxed, you can’t talk until somebody says your name.)
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
well, ‘Jinx, you owe me a Coke’ is an exchange between Mr Burns to Smithers,
and the second part just doesn’t amke sense in this format…
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by Little Napoleon on Dec 11, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
I have no memory of that
However, Bart definitely got jinxed in the “now you can’t talk until somebody says your name.” Homer ended up punching him.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Homer was completely in the right.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
That is correct. And if you do talk, the person who jinxed you gets to punch you.
We also had something called a personal jinx, where only the person who jinxed you could get you out.
Coke rules are stupid. I will never give you a coke.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
You owe me two years of tuition and living costs.
HOW DOES IT FEEL WHEN I COMPLETELY MAKE UP RULES, JERK?
I’ll give you the Coke when I get the money.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
These are the correct rules.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I always actually thought the “you owe me a coke” thing came from Kim Possible.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
no it's way earlier than that
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I’m not even sure what Kim Possible is, but I don’t ever remember hearing the “you owe me a coke” thing until I met my wife (2001). Now I seem to hear it all the time.
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I remember doing that back in like junior high…and I can tell you, that was waaaaaaaaaay before 2001!
Whenever it was, it was still BAD AND WRONG!
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I thought it came from The Office, when Jim and Pam were still a cute thing instead of horrible monsters.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, right or wrong, it is definitely not a tv/film generated line.
Let’s just… let’s let that be that.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
The first time I heard the Coke thing
Was in an SNL sketch when Julia Louis-Dreyfus was still a cast member. So that’s somewhere in 1982-85.
I also grew up with the “can’t talk” rule.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Kim Possible was a cartoon (it might still be running, I’m not sure). The first time I ever ever ever ever ever encountered the Coke thing was in an episode of that show.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it’s no longer running.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
definitely isnt.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Fun fact
Kim Possible was originally only supposed to have 65 episodes to comply with the Disney Channel’s arbitrary cut off number for animated shows, but due to its wild popularity in Germany, they produced another season so it could qualify for German syndication.
Also, I have the Kimmunicator beep as my text ringtone.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
And who can forget her cohort, the sublimely named Ron Stoppable.
"Mow bwiefings?" "More briefings."
BATMAN!
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The most sublime farce was that episode where Ron becomes the protege of the Fearless Ferret, a masked crimefighter voiced by Adam West, who guided Ron in the new Ferret Suit via a communications link.
LOL batman beyond.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait a second.
This happened?
I must see it.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?i=261958492&id=259829473&s=143441
Now you can RENT for only 99 cents!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Jon Miller: "It’s off the top of the car!!!
Proud supporter of the Fightin' Hydrants.
by Little Napoleon on Dec 11, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
They won the game regardless!
Also, since when has Jeff Kent been ecstatic about anything in his life? His moods tend to range from Miserable Prick to Smug Bastard.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Well played, sir . . .
You get bonus points for combining terrific humor with a dead-on accurate assessment of Mr. I Broke My Wrist Washing The Car Really Truly.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Favorite line from a KNBR promo:
Miller: “Here’s the throw to the plate… IT’S CUT OFF! And the Giants have won it!”
that was a walk-off win in early 2003, I think, against the bums.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
How about the promos when Bonds was chasing Aaron?
with the theme from “The Natural.” Goosebumps.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
Also there's this
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I want to see the video of this
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think it was against the Diamondbacks.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Pics or it didn’t happen.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Khaki shorts, white kicks – good friend’s season tickets – he still has ’em. The girl in the gray sweater in front of us complained about how cold it was for half the game.
Don’t look at my junk.
The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS
/averts eyes
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
STAY CLASSY
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
You know, Randy Winn really was a great outfielder.
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by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I like the person in the top left of the picture, holding the hat out to catch the ball. So close! You almost had it!
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was at the game……I like that Randy Wynn guy.
by shaolinironlion on Dec 11, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Move in Triples Alley.
More seats,more revenue,better players.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions
better yet
add a hill and a basketball hoop in triples alley so center fielders can run up the hill and slam dunk the baseball. people love slam dunks!
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
by O R They? on Dec 11, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
Move the fences OUT and put baseball-sized golf holes throughout the outfield. If it goes in the hole, it’s a hole-in-one and you get to go all the way around the bases.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Install 90 foot flippers by both dugouts to keep the ball in play
by inthesquat on Dec 11, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
And Ron Washington would STILL start Vlad in RF.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Install a plexiglass roof 30 feet above the field and put in Astroturf. The game never gets rained out, and you get pinball effects.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
We should put a ferris wheel where the batter's eye is too
More revenue and less people watching the game and distracting our players
maybe have a huge slide somewhere
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
HHHUUMM this could go wrong in soooo many ways.
That What He Said?
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
I saw we but in beach sand.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
BOO!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Or leave the park alone
And not have to worry about as many of the LaRoches & Bobby Murcers of game screwing up our summer day after week after month unless the GM is stupid enough to trade for them!
The Giants are 2010 World Series Champs. … And in other news the forecast calls for a rain of toads, heavy at times, with moderate to strong swarms of locust and a high likelihood of a world quake. Details at 11.
For the record
I don’t think we should move in the fences. And I agree with Grant. All I’m saying is that if you think that AT&T doesn’t hurt us getting left handed offense, you’re wrong.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Sigh..
Actually you’re way off base..
If we make the best offer, 90% of left handed hitters would sign here.
If you’re argument is that we can’t get mediocre lefties who are trying to pump up their stats on one year deals then you are absolutely right.
just look at LaRoche last year.
thank god he walked away from all that ridiculous money. Nick Johnson, too.
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by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
And you’re underplaying how important it is to be able to sign that kind of scrap-heap talent.
If Aubrey Huff had had more than one offer, he might not have come to SF. A team needs to be able to sign mid-range players to fill positions, and the Giants are at a significant disadvantage at acquiring that talent. That’s not a good thing.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A "significant disadvantage" is overstating it to the point of hyperbole
Name me one “mid-range” player we would not have signed this year if we had made the best offer?
Nick Johnson and Adam LaRoche
Just because we got lucky with our 3rd choice doesn’t mean we always will.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That was last year
Adam Laroche is ONE example. One guys viewpoint is not indicative.
Nick Johnson wanted to play for the Yankees. That is not the debate here.
You don't think that left handed hitters around the league don't want to play here if they can avoid it?
Ok.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Actually I don't
ONCE AGAIN.. In spite of you’re rock solid Adam Laroche didn’t want to play here so no lefties do argument..
90-95%% of what gets a player to sign somewhere is the contract. Period. The parks effect of on lefty homeruns. Remember they only play half their games at AT&T. Is negligible AT BEST
in determing what would make a lefty sign here..
Last part of the sentence got cut off
If the contract is in the same ballpark(ha!), the player will sign where they will have the best numbers. If the contract is unusually high the Player’s Union will have something to say about where they sign.
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
But… that’s why agents would do research, and BS would have numbers handy to disprove the MYTH.
The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS
BS would have numbers handy to disprove the MYTH.
Susan maybe, but Sabes ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
by nvsfg on Dec 11, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A few other left-handed hitters have gone on record saying they hated hitting at AT&T park, though. Maybe they were having a bad day, or maybe our pitchers are just awesome and they blamed it on the park, but Todd Helton and Lance Berkman (switch hitter, but whatever) are two hitters that immediately come to mind as not wanting to hit at AT&T.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Berkman’s rant also included how much he hated San Francisco, and how terrible the weather is there, as I recall.
Also as I recall, a number of Padres complained about Petco the first year it opened. So a couple of opposing hitters over the years seems mild by comparison…
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by jcb9 on Dec 11, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was at a game at Petco where Klesko and Phil Nevin lost probably 3 or 4 homers between them due to the massive RF. Not surprisingly, I believe they were the biggest complainers.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 11, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, what weather does he like?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He’s from Waco, so I can only assume he prefers miserable and sweltering.
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Strange dude.
What’s the weather like in Tallahassee?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
It gets hotter here in the summer than it does in South Florida. It gets colder in the winter than it does in South Florida. Pretty much screwed both ways.
A couple of weeks ago it was 80 and we were occasionally running the AC. Now it’s getting well below freezing at night.
Lots of thunderstorms and torrential rain in the summer. The thunderstorms can be cool to watch, at least.
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This
If we make the best offer, 90% of left handed hitters would sign here.
If park effects really mattered in where players sign, then the Rockies would have signed someone who already had a 30 HR season on his resume in their history.
As it stands, a fully washed up Jason Giambi was their first one.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Not necessarily
Because all FA’s know that even if they’re successful at Coors, people will just write it off.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Or, alternately, no pitchers would go to Philadelphia.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Consistency
If they’ll adjust down for Coors, they’ll adjust up for Petco.
If you argue park factors matter, then all parks get adjusted and it doesn’t matter where you play.
if you argue they don’t, then Colorado should have people lining up to play there.
Seems to me the argument that Coors hitters get dinged, but ATT hitters suffer from a pervasive yet inaccurate view that it’s a pitcher’s park is inconsistent.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Dec 13, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
A washed up Dale Murphy begs to differ, as do washed up Matt Nokes, Ron Gant, and Steve Finley.
More to the point, so does a not quite washed up Jeromy Burnitz.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 13, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
this actually is the worst possible year to make this argument about ATT. The Giants weren’t interested in any major free agents, and the one they did sign made a point of saying that after the Giants called he made it clear to his agent that he wasn’t interested in playing anywhere else.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
Ever lose sight of how filthy Matt Cain is?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/9455
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
Take a look at #24!
And Matt Cain’s two most similar pitchers through age 25 on B-R?
John Smoltz. Don Sutton.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Cain would be the third-best closer in the NL, I’d bet.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
At best!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
the third starter at best meme totally went over my head in this case
I was just thinking in terms of when Smoltz was a closer: who would he have been third best behind? Gagne and Hoffman?
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some of the later comparisons aren't as flattering
though they still had good careers.
Ismael Valdes is a name I hadn’t thought of in years…
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/similarity.shtml
That’s how they do it. It isn’t perfect, but it’s fun.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
6th best starter in the league AT BEST
Wait, that’s a compliment
Because W-L percentage is what really matters
Chart of ERA+ vs W-L% for top 20 since 2005. This proves Matt Cain is a third starter at best, it’s just science.
by busterbarelyevenknowher on Dec 12, 2010 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
Best part
Second youngest guy on there, next to King Felix.
by InTimmyWeTrust on Dec 11, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
What that list also really shows is how few pitchers are good (and healthy) for 6 years. Just 27 pitchers are above average over that period, and a lot of them only barely. Just 16 have an ERA below 4.
Long term pitching contracts are rarely a good idea.
by sarf_london_niner on Dec 12, 2010 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
I love the fact that bullpens are on the field of play. I love the fact there are no designs cut into the outfield grass. I love the fact that the opposing sluggers come into SF and leave feeling that they were robbed for a few HRs. I love the fact that the Giants are the world series champions.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 12:52 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
/Elster’d
"There have been only two geniuses in the world. Willie Mays and Willie Shakespeare." - Actress Tallulah Bankhead (1962)
by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
/ Carlos Lee'd
one of my all time favorites. Lee hits it to right center, starts his home run trot, and Randy Winn camps under the can of corn. The look on his face was priceless.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Surprise butt secks
is what I’d imagine Lee’s face looked like.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
You’ll like the bullpens until Belt breaks his leg running over one of them.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Dec 11, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That can be said for any part of the field.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
On-field bullpens are much more dangerous and completely unnecessary.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
by cheno on Dec 11, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure a bump on the ground is more dangerous than flat ground. I happen to like the romantic setting by having the bullpen be near the action where the whole stadium can see.
I don’t like the stadiums where even the announcers and everyone in attendance have to guess who is warming up in the bullpen. I especially like how the opposing bullpen is only a few feet away from our fans.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’d take Cheno’s side on this. The bullpens are unsightly and dangerous. The cars in LF are embarrassing. The temps are too cold (just as it’s too humid in Atlanta, St. Louis, Miami, and presumably KC and Tampa. Maybe Cincy too.)
And no lefty power hitter is going to want to ply his trade at AT&T as it is currently configured. It’s fine to say “to heck with them,” but it’s still the case.
"I can't very well tell my batters, 'Dont hit it to him.' Wherever they hit it, he's there anyway."
- NY Mets manager Gil Hodges on Willie Mays
if lefty hitters don’t like playing there then we should have an advantage in signing righty pitchers
WWRWD?
Wellemeyer could have signed ANYWHERE last year, man. He chose here for a reason.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 11, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Can someone PLEASE explain to me...
…where this myth that the Giants, FORGOT the bullpens? I saw the plans for the ballpark in 1996 when I bought my CSL. They had double-decker bullpens were the tunnel is. If anything, they forgot the tunnel. They wanted them on the field, plain and simple.
It is the best ballpark in major league baseball
it plays extremely fair and the Giants have gone a good job putting together a team that plays to the strengths of the ballpark.
There is nothing to complain about.
Agreed. Playing in a bandbox the new Yankee Stadium would sicken me.
And don’t even get me started on the Mickey Mouse dimensions in Houston.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
It reminds me of the venues in Backyard Baseball. Except those were all vacant lots, city parks and the like.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
I remember the first game in the series against the Padres that Sanchez predicted would be a sweep
Huff absolutely clobbered a ball to Death Valley that would have been a go-ahead home run down 2 in the 8th inning. And it died on the track.
I was sitting on the first base line, and I watched as Huff stopped short of first base, put his hands on his hips and shook his head. He was beside himself, and so was I.
But all in all, I love the dimensions
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
There were a few hits like that toward the end of the season. Good thing it worked out, though!
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 11, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
i almost threw my laptop out the window when that happened
definitely one of the lowpoints of the year
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
random thought
Is someone going to start a Community Prospects thing this offseason? I always enjoy those.
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Who normally does those? Marcello I think?
We should probably get moving on that.
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Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
even if true, it would all equal out. It would cost more to get hitters to sign, but it will cost less for your pitching staff, because they’ll all be lining up to pitch in a pitcher’s park. This is why the Giants were able to bring in Barry Zito for so much under market value.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 11, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
if I were a big fat lefty like Adam Dunn
the RF dimensions would worry me. I don’t think I would quite leg out as many doubles and triples, plus we all know that HRs really are where the money lies.
Still, I share the skepticism that it all matters at the negotiating table. If it were true, wouldn’t we get a comparable discount on pitching?
I also have a one picture argument in favor of leaving the park the way it is:
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2010 1:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
You should have realized Washington smelled terrible before you signed.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Why in the world wouldn’t you leg out doubles and triples? That sounds like crazy talk. AT&T actually increases the number of singles, doubles, and triples that a lefty hits – and the effect on triples is WIDELY known. I don’t know why anybody who can run would come to a park that they know is good for triples, and then get lazy about running for them.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I guess you are talking about Dunn, though. He’s not much of a runner, is he?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
I remember seeing someone use a tool on baseball reference one time
That let you take player’s seasons and put them in different ball parks. I vaguely remember seeing someone put 2002 Barry Bonds in Coors field… and he hit 100 home runs.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
it's still there
if you click on More Stats I think
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
“fuckin juiced ball bullshit”
Thing A
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by sam23 on Dec 11, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess the picture does need a sentence
I really enjoy it when opposing hitters make that face.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Didn't he win the Royal Rumble?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
the first one, yes
(also possibly my least favorite wrestler of all time)
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
His WWF stuff was awful when McMahon go to him. If you catch his early stuff before the shitty WWF cartoon on the late 80s, he’s pretty decent.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
got to him
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
he did have one of the most unintentionally funny lines in wrestling history, though
After Hogan’s nWo heel turn, he called him out, saying, “Hulk Hogan, you are a great technical wrestler!”
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Technically he’s right. Check out Hogan’s stuff from Japan. He actually used moves vs. Stan Hanson and Great Muta. US…not so much.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
But was he great?
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He wasn’t “great” like Muta
Seriously, if you watch his stuff on You Tube from Japan, you’ll think “Holy Shit! I didn’t know he could do that!” No “Hulking up”. He wrestles the Japanese style. Actually watching his match vs. Stan Hanson, pretty funny the way Hanson runs over that pedo Mel Phillips, after he runs him over, the camera cuts back to Hogan where he could tell he got a kick out that.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Stone Cold is another dude who could “wrestle” when given the chance. His “technical wrestling” match with Benoit on Raw was pretty darn good.
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I saw his stuff when he was with WCW, teaming with Brian Pillman as the tag team “Hollywood Blondes”. He was pretty good.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Stunning Steve!!
Yeah – he obviously had to change his entire moveset to coordinate with the SCSA character. He developed most of it during his short run in ECW – he was injured, so a little limited in what he could do so he went with a sort of “rough” style, and brought it back once he transitioned to SCSA. His run with the Dangerous Alliance was great though, even before he was Stunning Steve – if you can find it, the 2 out of 3 falls against Barry Windham for the TV title was classic.
Hogan could go when he was younger – he was well trained. Once he really bulked up, and sustained a few injuries – he really scaled it back. Plus, the “Real American” gimmick didn’t need a whole lot more than punch, kick, get beat up… Hulk up, big boot, leg drop – KIDS GO CRAZY! Some of that can be attributed to who he was working with, some to just the “style” that Vince wanted him to roll with. I could go on and on….
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I’m old enough to remember the original Hollywood Blondes, Buddy Roberts and Jerry Brown. I used to watch wrestling on UHF television from LA. The big stars on that show were Freddie Blassie and John Tolos. They didn’t show wrestling from SF, but the stars at that time were another pedophile, Pat Patterson and Moondog Mayne.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 12, 2010 6:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
As I recall, his neck injury also contributed to his change in style from a wrestler to a brwler.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
This is true
After the Owen Hart piledriver, Steve was never the same. Of course, his (and Hogan’s) lack of technical showmanship in the ring was dictated by their gimmicks. Steve needed punches, kicks, the Lou Thesz press, and the Stunner.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The Padres are really shooting themselves in the foot by moving their AAA team to Escondido
“We’re not drawing very well. What do you propose?”
“Let’s put another team in San Diego County to take more attendance away from the Padres!”
“Brilliant! Fuck work, let’s drink.”
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
That is pretty bizarre- they should have moved it to Oakland.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
How do you think all of those old VHS tapes got recycled? Don’t worry though. I hear DVDs taste a little better and have less fat.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
This is a good time to bust this out again: http://triplesalley.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/how-does-att-park-affect-hitters-2/
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Triples Alley is an excellent blog.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
If you ask me, this is the way Park Factors should be calculated for every ballpark. I really dislike the way ESPN puts its park factors stuff together.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Almost all ballparks are remodeled.
Most are done every 10-20 years. Dodger Stadium,Fenway,Wrigley,Yankee, Angel Stadium etc..I believe moving in Triples Alley about 20 ft. would add seats so more people could enjoy the Giants ,add revenue and thus add or keep quality players in the future.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions
They should move the seats in and put a pool there
So awesome..
But why stop there . . .
Let’s add a choo choo train like Houston and a big slide where Lou Seal can drop into a bucket of chum every time the Giants hit a dinger.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Instead of a hill in center, how about a decline? A little ramp to nowhere would be awesome in its danger!
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Screw a ramp. Just have the field fall off completely fifteen feet from the wall.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Only if . . .
Rowand gets to start in center in those stupid last-weekend-of-spring-training exhibition games.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
And then remove it . . .
as a failed experiment, just like Rusty the Old Navy sloganeer.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
How about a moat instead of an outfield wall, with alligators and hippos?
I’d like to see anyone try to take a home run away from the Giants in that configuration.
I personally think we should adopt CJ Wilson's idea
“It’s not like they have a fire pit with a lion that jumps out and eats the outfielders,” Wilson noted with a smile
Take that Andre Ethier!!
Ahh, he's a Dodger . . .
The lions would spit him back.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
To take from a very old joke...
Casey Blake falls into a lionpit and disappears. Everybody thinks he’s a goner, when all of a sudden he comes flying back out. “What happened,” they ask, breathlessly.
Blake replies, “When the lions gathered around, I told them not to eat me because I was a good guy and Dodger. Not even a lion would swallow that!”
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
That was a great quote.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Put a Rancor pit in CF.
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by Soulbrother16 on Dec 11, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Or a mountain with a waterfall. That would be cool too.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I really doubt adding 100 seats will help keep any players. And the only teams that extra seats help are teams that sell out every game.
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants are going to sell out a hell of a lot of games next year.
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True, but they won’t sell out every game.
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Even beyond the stupidity of it
THERE ARE NO LONGER A WHOLE LOT OF “LEFTY HITTERS IN THEIR PRIME” WHO HIT THE GODDAMN FREE AGENT MARKET TO BEGIN WITH.
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What happened to Field F/X
or whatever they’ve been installing at the yard over the years? I found this Popular Mechanics article but I thought the Giants had some massive array of cameras set up a couple years ago in hopes of discovering better defensive metrics.
Marquis: "So where the hell's Barry gonna be?"
Superfan: "He's over there, conserving power."
by General Burnside on Dec 11, 2010 1:20 PM PST reply actions
The Giants camera system and Field F/X aren't the same thing
I hear rumbles in the SABR community from time to time that Field F/X is coming soon and it’s going to be awesome.
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So what does ATT have that other parks don’t?
Marquis: "So where the hell's Barry gonna be?"
Superfan: "He's over there, conserving power."
by General Burnside on Dec 11, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
2010 World Series Champions.
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by jctGamer on Dec 11, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 16 recs
It's some kind of proprietary system
They’re understandably mum on what exactly they get from the system, so those of us on the outside really have no idea.
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So it’s possible that Bochy’s defensive alignments and late-inning double switches are the product of surreptitious and advanced new wave metrics. Hmm. Maybe I’ll just forget all about it instead of trying to figure it out.
Marquis: "So where the hell's Barry gonna be?"
Superfan: "He's over there, conserving power."
by General Burnside on Dec 11, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
The cameras told him to leave Lincecum in to hit and then remove him after walking the leadoff batter the next inning.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 11, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
The entire "AT&T Park is a pitcher's park" meme . . .
Is so annoying. It showed up at Olney’s column on ESPN a couple of months back. And he’s actually a pretty knowledgeable guy. (I emailed him with corrections and a link to his own site with park effect over the last few years, but he just ignored it.) But because the players and the media believe the meme is truthful, it does color how they respond. I suppose the upside would be that we ought to be able to have better luck with starting pitchers, but seem pretty well equipped for a couple of years in that area.
I do understand why an left-handed HR hitter would not want to come here. Need to pitch the park to lefty line drive hitters . . . but everybody luvs their dingerz these days.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:26 PM PST reply actions
Reading Grant’s post made me think: why should the numbers on this issue change anyone’s mind in baseball any more than fielding metrics should affect Gold Glove votes, or Jack Cust seeming like a valuable hitter, or just about anything else? MY RBI NUBMERs WILL GO DOWN IN THAT GIANTS PARK SO IM NOT GOING.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Last year I remember reading a story about how Boras had prepared this whole package of data on how badly Safeco park killed Adrian Beltre’s power numbers, and all I could think was: “didn’t he have access to that data before he signed Beltre there is the first place?”
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
If it’s the top offer, Boras would sign his guy to play in hell. “Adrian, we have to give him our souls, but it’s eighty million dollars!!”
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 12, 2010 6:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
remember when people used to suggest that we change the park
to fix the offense.
I think that might have been the dumbest Giants related meme ever.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
The Giants will
change the dimensions in the park. Not because of the offense or the pitching or anything else except the BOTTOM LINE.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:35 PM PST reply actions
Just a matter of time.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
This could be true . . .
Without impacting how the field plays. The first move in this direction was the conversion of former photography wells on the field into more luxury seats. That funky Virgin America booth down the right field line. The Coors Light barber chairs out in center. I also question whether something more than a very substantial reconfiguration is going to change the park effect that much. I believe that much of the negative impact on LHB HRs (the only real negative impact) comes from the prevailing wind direction (toward the east during most games) and the 20-foot high brick wall. If you put a couple hundred extra seats out in the farthest reaches of triple valley, you might affect a handful of monster shots a year. But that’s about it.
And as someone above pointed out, adding more marginal bleacher seats at a park that (2011 notwithstanding) will not regularly sell out is not that big a revenue producer. They make far more money with the variable pricing, trying to push attendance right to near the existing capacity.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Capacity has been raised from 40,800 to 41,915 in ten seasons, adding another 1,000 or so seats along Triples Alley could generate upwards of $3,000,000 without doing much to the dimensions. I’m not sure how more variable pricing you can do.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
1,000 seems like a LOT of seats to fit into Triples Alley.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think we can fit 1000 Asians
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we lost Geno?!
oh man I missed this wher’d he go?
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And 3 million dollars seems like a lot of money from 100 seats
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
1000 seats X 20 bucks a seat X 81 games only comes out to
~ 1.6 million.
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I charged thirty and added concessions.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Take into account extra costs, other seats that won’t be filled (SF won’t ever have consecutive 81 sell outs) and then throw in that other seats will have their prices dropped b/c seats will now be between them and the field.
Also the team sells LF seats, for 2011, from $7 to $27 and I would expect the Triple Alley seats to be reasonably similar price. So $20 is a better estimate than $30.
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Settle for $25?
If they were to cut over from the end of sect. 141 straight over(?) to the beginning of sect. 147, Maybe they could add 5,000 seats.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
LOL you think we could increase the park capacity by 10% in Triples Alley,
Also if making money is your main concern, wouldn’t that limit offseason use of the park?
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Lol,
What one football game? Let’s add more concerts! Maybe a Wedding Expo.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
One football game and you get half or a 1/4 of the profits (also all of Cal’s season next year?) is probably more than you’ll make from 5,000 extra fans
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Very nice. So we can’t squeeze a football game in?
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Well, if your main concern is $ then that might actually be an issue.
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
I recall going to a Demons game there
and bot teams had to stand on one side of the field.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, I can’t believe I’m not the only person here to have attended an XFL game.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 11, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Literally nobody at my school knows what the XFL was. I made a Rod Smart joke once and it fell completely flat.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I still remember watching the first game on TV.
Reporter: Why does the back of your jersey say “He Hate Me.”
Rod Smart: “BECAUSE THEY HATE ME, MAN!”
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 11, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
LOL sports nerbs gather at blog!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
This as good a time as there is.
Signed, YOUR 2010 World Series Champions
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Not picking a fight here . . .
just curious. Do you want the expansion to happen, or are you just predicting that it will? For my part, I like the unusual configuration and the thrills of balls being chased down in Triple Valley. And would be sad to see it go. If Ostler is right about anything, it’s that current management won’t let it happen. So I’m not too worried. But if it did happen based on the need to be competitive . . . I just think that analysis is all screwed up. I just don’t think it would markedly change park effect or the attitude of LHB HR hitters.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 11, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I love the park
and do not want it to change. How many times have we said that we don’t want something to change and it changes anyway?
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
But it doesn’t make economic sense.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Nature of the beast.
I can see a second deck over the bleachers and I bet there have been drawings of this or at least talked about by the owners in the last ten years.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa, whoa whoa. A second deck? Not likely cost to build and design that would stop that dead in its tracks. Also the cost of second deck seats are much less than field level.
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the Racer 5 talking but...
wouldn’t it eventually pay for itself?
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
So everybody is saying that
the Giants’ ballpark will have the same dimensions and the same number of seats for the next 25 or so years? I think not not in fact just the opposite. Dimensions will be changed seats will be added. Maybe not a second deck over the bleachers or Triples Alley cut for more Dingerz. But the architects will come Ray.
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by iloveddickdietz on Dec 11, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Racer 5 is talking
No one’s doubting that there are ways to expand the seating capacity..
It’s just nobody is stupid enough to mess with what every1 considers a beautiful ballpark.
You’re 2nd deck of bleachers statement is even more LOLworthy than the triples alley extension
No.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Basically, you just described Mt. Davis.
No one is stupid enough to copy that monstrosity.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yeah, a second deck in the outfield would pretty much ruin the whole ballpark.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
How many seats could they possibly add? It’s not a lot.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
And adding seats =! to more attendance. I mean the Giants are a good draw, but they don’t sell out every game.
But lets say they do sell out and lets say they add 20 rows of 20 seats to the park. That’s 400 seats at 30 dollars a pop or 12,000 dollars per game. For 80 games a year thats 960,000 dollars a year. Lets round that to 1 million. Now, what did it cost to change the park? 1 million? 2 Million?
And really is 1 million extra in revenue a year even enough to change a teams budget? And remember that 1 million doesn’t factor in any costs.
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
An added factor that nobody's mentioned
is that a nearly sold out stadium and ticket scarcity adds a desirability to ticket purchasers—it’s called the sell out effect. Since the giants are now using (((Dynamic Pricing))) this is a real consideration. The present situation is actually in the favor of the Giant’s ticket sales. People want to go to a full event—witness the Oakland Masoleum for both the A’s and the Raiders. Lots of empty seats makes a place look bad.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
That’s the thing about park capacity, there are seats that could be sold for sellouts. A Dodgers game in September can sell more seats, and that’s revenue they don’t make.
Adding 1,000 seats does nothing to a Tuesday night game against the Pirates, there are already empty seats. But that’s “premier game” money they could be getting for sellouts.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
PERFECT!
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This facebook message is not suspicious at all
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i like your profile!!! i think its… cool
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Sorry about that. Wrong David.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hotmail is the biggest piece of shit e-mail service out there. You create your account one day, the next you have over 100 spam e-mails already.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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I was pretty sure that it didn’t exist anymore.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
I thought so, too, but apparently my old hotmail address got hijacked so it’s been sending spam to all… twenty-three people that had ever gotten emails from that address and I can’t figure out how to delete the account.
Oh, internet, you lovable scamp.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
My mom still uses it!
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I have a hotmail account I use for online stuff that wants an email address that really doesn’t need one. CalTrans for example…
That’s what I use my yahoo account for.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I use it for that, plus I’ve completely failed at ever convincing my parents and some older family members to ever migrate over to gmail with me, so I have to remember occassionally to go over to hotmail to check and see if I have an email from my mother or whatever.
Just recently I joined in a community theatre production and for whatever anachronistic reasoning ALL of their communication is done through a Yahoo group so I had to sign up for that, too. As if having four different email addresses already (work, hotmail, gmail, and our mobile me cloud) wasn’t enough already. Even Facebook would have been better than Yahoo, and my disinterest in joining Facebook can’t be measured by any device known to modern science.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
yuck
This is akin to the online OOTP leagues that treat you like a leper for not trolling AIM. Is it that hard to use the private message on the forum board?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
+1
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 11, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha
I just got the same one. She sounds legit, I think I’m going to pursue this one.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I've posted this before...I got this Email a couple of months ago
Hi love I’m a beautiful young girl looking for real love and protection, I am very happy to contact you for us to know ourselves. please remember that distance, age and color cannot stop true love. So darling, I will appreciate receiving your response at my private email(marian.mabou@hotmail.com ) So that I send you my pictures and information about myself . Awaiting for your positive response.. yours in love marian.
I’MA COMIN’, MARIAN!!!
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
I'm confused....
Did the San Francisco Giants win the 2010 World Series?
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Dec 11, 2010 1:46 PM PST reply actions
The Chevron Cars
That might have been the last time I seriously considered an act of chain saw related vandalism.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
If ya all aren't happy about the present park
I’ve been told Candlestick is still avalible, with lots of parking too.
Ooooo!
Take me back, I wanna freeze and watch plastic bags self-inflate and blow across the field and pieces of paper plaster themselves to the outfielders. Yeah, this is the solution, this will really draw hitters to the Giants!
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Cliff Lee just signed with the Yankees for 8 years, 190 Million…
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
I’d laugh about how crippling that contract will be, but dammit, it’s the Yankees.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
but, uh....
I see nothing about that, following your link. Are we in a sarchasm situation here, or am I missing it?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I made it up.
I’m bored and studying and I just wondering what people would buy. Apparently they would buy that.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
/Urban'd
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Still, could he just sign already? I’m getting tired of waiting to learn which team he will be losing WS games for next year.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 11, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
But at least we know not to patronize your emporium any more.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Was there ever doubt that he will be a Yankee?
Poor Rangers fans, at least they are the World Cha…oh wait.
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Right after this he tried to hand it to Chris Rose who didn’t want any part of that weapon.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
I still think we should turn the warning track into a moat.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
Neddz moar American Gladiators with bōs.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Maybe a quarterstaff would be more appropriate.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
if we're borrowing ideas from American Gladiators
How about we put baserunners and infielders in those giant hamster balls?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Great idea!
Extend the base lines by two hundred feet, throw in some buttons that trigger geysers of gas, install some catapults to launch the runners, and we’re in business!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Only if we can put the gun from Assault on top of the concession stands in CF.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
It should fire baseballs. Because we're playing baseball.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And the baseline between third and home will be a padded rotating cylinder.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
Also there’s a bloleventh inning now.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Inspired by your sig, I shall post this and end the subthread.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Every runner has to take on the Aggro Crag to score a run!
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 11, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
With a couple of sharks (no not San Jose) in it?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Chutes around the perimeter...
Dropping wayward outfielders into McCovey Cove!!
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Also, fuck this phrase.
The ballpark problem is fixable
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The dimensions don't need to be changed
But, I could see it happening if, say a pitcher warming up in the bullpen gets struck by a line drive, and they feel pressure to move the bullpens behind the center field wall.
Behind the center field wall
Is a food court.
There’s some open space between the wall and the back of the food stand. But eyeballing it on Google MAps, it doesn’t look like there’s room for 60’ 6".
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Dec 12, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
If we’re talking about the “express bathroom” food court, IIRC all those things are made out of cinderblock. I have assumed that was for structural reasons to hold up beams (probably for the bleachers) or because they are capping something in the foundation. Anyway, all that concrete and rebar isn’t going anywhere unless it sinks into the bay.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
let the right one in
is it worth watching?
ive been skeptical of all vampire romance movies of late
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions
im not a fan of the books but i read them and theyre not horrible just medicore
the movies are fucking terrible
the twilight books would have been better if she wuld have gone all jk rowling and killed everyone
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
thats the one i meant. im not one for american remakes
the ring was okay
the (rec) remake didnt do it for me
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
it did what it wanted to do. There are a few lol moments, but they don’t detract from the film.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It's movies like these that make me hate having a girlfriend
Bochy & Co. -- Your World Series Champions
Ooooh, I’m telling.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Dec 11, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
I very much enjoyed the original.
It was a little tricky for me because I like to know the moment it starts how I’m supposed to be watching it:
As a coming-of-age, innocent romance, horror, thriller, artjerk, what have you.
The original didn’t it establish itself as anything generically recognizable.
Which was great.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
Thought the Swedish original was excellent: well-filmed and gave you a lot to think about. It’s kind of a “romance,” but with a lot of ambiguity and a major dark side to it.
Haven’t seen the American remake, but I hear it’s pretty decent.
My understanding of the American remake is that its largely a shot-for-shot remake with some Hollywood flourishes for good measure. I didn’t watch it because I’m still mad at that director for Cloverfield.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I have heard of many people hating on Cloverfield
And I don’t really get why. It wasn’t an instant classic or anything, but I thought it delivered pretty much what was promised.
I thought it delivered a bunch of douchebags acting like a bunch of douchebags for 90 minutes, interspersed with that unbelievably useless, contrived, and gimmicky “date” footage. There were only two worthwhile scenes in the whole movie, and they both involved douchebags getting killed.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not a romance. And it is absolutely fantastic.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
If the ballpark was perfect it would have a Round Table.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
They have many round tables!
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godmant justin long
my least favorite actor ever
at the moment
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions
But in all seriousness
Don’t change the park.
Some modifications could prove beneficial, yes.
But it is not the source of the problems that we face.
If anything, it makes whatever problems we have a little easier to bear.
Look out. I'm having a thought.
=( me
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
even brute was against posey
im surprised
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Totally off topic and out of left field
but if you go on sfgiants.com, their all star balloting ad has a pic of Ort at 1st and Roberts in the OF.
by Viliphied on Jun 5, 2008 11:38 AM PDT actions
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Good call, guys!
HEY
All you Posey haters are going to be cheering the guy in two years
by baetown415 on Jun 5, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions
only if Smoak
completely fails
by positiveuphemism on Jun 5, 2008 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Dec 11, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t wait until he proves you all wrong and leads us to the a World Series Championship in 2010
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
haha LIAR!
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 11, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting…. since it says you just done joined this place in May of 2009
by Merope on Dec 11, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
KLaw is right on the money
Summary: Posey, like Jorge Posada, is a converted infielder who has found a home behind the plate. Unlike Posada, however, Posey is going to be a plus defender as a backstop, and combined with his offensive skill set, he’s one of the top talents in the draft pool. Posey has a quick, compact stroke with good bad control, covering the zone well and showing good recognition of balls and strikes. He doesn’t project to hit for more than average power with wood; he leaks slightly at the plate, and while he has some loft in his swing, he gets under balls when swinging a wood bat. Behind the dish, he has great energy, a plus arm, and soft hands. He’s the safest player in this draft, because he has the defensive skill set to play in the majors and enough bat to at least be a backup even if he never improves an iota, but his upside is as a No. 2 or No. 3 hitter who hits for average, gets on base, hits a ton of doubles with 15-20 homers, all while providing plus defense.
me, too
..and why does everyone hate on Posey? The only problem with him is the bonus demand.
posey it is
and I for one think it was the right choice
if he’s hitting 8 HR he’s out of baseball
I see 25 with good defense and OBP
by wcw on Dec 11, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
REALLY
Pablo
Is making great strides defensively this year … but it would be foolish to presume that he’s our answer at this point considering that he’s only had a real breakout type season this year.
Cain is Able …
by Norcalfan10 on Jun 5, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up actions
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Dec 11, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
positiveeuphemism can be very negative sometimes.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
He’s still more positive than negativeeuphemism
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t say all euphemisms are positive. But the base function of a euphemism is to put a positive spin on something that is otherwise inappropriate to say in plain terms.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe not all euphemisms are positive
But all euphemisms are positive euphemisms. Does that make sense?
Yeah, I think we’re on the same page.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
really funny thing in that thread
There’s a scout quoted as saying
I like Buster Posey a ton, and I think he’s a sure-fire Major Leaguer. But absolute best case scenario is probably late 90s Jason Kendall, and we’ve all seen the other comparisons thrown around.
Jason Kendall hit .327/.411/.473 in 1998. What more do you people want?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
They all shit on late 90s Kendall because of mid-2000s Kendall
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 12, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
posey reeks of flukiness. where was he a year ago?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
this is the funniest thread of all time
too many highlights to pick out
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
more proof that wcw wuz rite though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
3. Buster Posey, C, Florida State
What He Is: An incredibly athletic catcher with a patient approach, decent power, and top-notch defensive potential.
What He’s Not: A true impact player.
lmao!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
this from Grant is prophetic though
…Buster Posey will have over 3,000 hits, but he’ll provide Gold Glove-defense from behind the plate…Bill James will wax rhapsodic about Buster Posey, and call him the “best player of the 10s”…Posey will eventually have a big buddy at first base who will help him solve crimes, just like Jeff Bagwell….
Brandon Belt = Jeff Bagwell?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Pass.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Speak for yourself
I, for one, would be pretty happy if Belt turned out to be a career .297/.408/.540 hitter with plus defense who played his entire career for one team.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It's a Bill James joke.
In James’ historical abstract, the great writer had but one word to say on Jeff Bagwell: “Pass.” I guess he was trying to be funny.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/over my head
Never forget, though, that Jeff Bagwell was traded for 22 innings of Larry Andersen.
Lol Red Sox.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think there’s a pretty good chance that Larry Andersen doesn’t get into the HoF.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 12, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’ll get around 78-80% of the vote.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
yeah
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hmm
Somehow I think he’ll lose some votes (at least on the first ballot) for being part of the “steroid era”, for not hitting as many home runs as other sluggers from the 90’s (Thomas, Thome, McGriff), and for being on the same team as Biggio. But I don’t really know what I’m talking about.
OT
I’m flipping channels. I reach NHL Network, which is showing Maple Leafs er Hockey Night in Canada. Don Cherry has THE ugliest suit I have ever seen.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Don Cherry always dresses like that.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I think he’s worn seven or eight of the top ten ugliest suits I’ve ever seen.
More comfortable with chicken
by billywitchdoctor.com on Dec 11, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sure he chose that one special, since tonight’s HNIC was in 3D. Can you imagine it in 3D? Yikes.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
Did you see it? Of course, if you are watching HNIC you want to see Toronto (makes ESPN and FOX seem fair in regards to the Yankees and Red Sox).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t HNIC usually feature double- or triple-headers? So while the Leafs are always on, there are usually other Canadian teams featured as well.
And I got to cut them some slack – there are only 6 Canadian teams, so of course there’s going to be a lot of repeats. And the Maple Leafs are like the Yankees in that they bring in by far the most revenue of any team in the league, and have fans throughout the country (why, I don’t know, since they’ve been horrible for almost 50 years, but that’s how it is). The Western teams are usually featured on the second half of the double header, the Habs have their own national channel (RDS), and who would really want to watch the Ottawa Senators. The Leafs are at least amusing in how bad they are. Plus, there’s always the chance of seeing waffles thrown on the ice, which is nice.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
Players with gap power and speed should drool over triples ally. I’ll take 8 of them over slow HR hitters any day. Odds are they play better defense as well, and come cheap* enough such that you can have three not quite elite players for the price of two boppers.
Talk of moving the fences is ridiculous. They won it all in this park!
"A new day will dawn for those who stand long." - Led Zeppelin
/shift-A
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2010 5:09 PM PST reply actions
WTF SBN.
I was going to say, this is a new one. I’ve been in the thread all day, yet I forgot I was in it.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." - Grant
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
You’ve become schizophrenic. There’s the real chop, and then there’s the chop that has become a site meme. You don’t know which one you are anymore.
by non sequitur on Dec 11, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Listen to patrick
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
by CB30 on Dec 11, 2010 5:41 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
While on the subject of park quirks
How do people feel about the Coke bottle and giant glove? I don’t dislike them, necessarily, but I do wonder what the park could look like with some other choices—either putting different things there to make that part of the park stand out, or just going more minimal overall and not building eye-catching things there at all.
I do like some aspects of them (the way the neon on the Coke bottle looks against the night sky, the slide is nice for kids), but, again, I wonder if a different approach might have been an improvement.
i like the coke bottle alot
not a fan of the glove. its just so random
i did like the glove more when it was a promotional thing
like hit the ball here win something or other
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
COKE BOTTLE ALOT
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
english is a flexible language damnit
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
/clicks subject line to avoid having nightmares
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
hey murray i made something next week
work in progress
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
i mean for next week
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Haha.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
COKE BOTTLE FOR LIFE
I enjoy both the bottle and the glove. Yes, it’s blatantly corporate sponsorship, but it’s attractive.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I guess they’re both kind of random, but I don’t mind them (because they’ve always been there, mostly). Obviously it would be stupid if they hadn’t been there before and the powers that be were inserting them now.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
O/T: Comcast re-broadcast of game one, NLDS, with KNBR audio
I just found a copy on iOffer. If it’s the real deal, anyone who didn’t get that game the other night, let me know and I’ll see if I can make you a copy of it.
Man
The amount of infielders being thrown around is getting ridiculous.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions
Mays Field
Zero superstar left-handed sluggers
One World Championship
by JSing on Dec 11, 2010 6:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
um, Bonds?
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
It was more of a reflection on the current team, as well as the notion we won’t attract any through free agency.
by JSing on Dec 12, 2010 10:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Also, when did everybody switch to thinking Mays Field was a pitcher's park?
And by “everybody”, I mean East Coast biased media. Weren’t some TBS or FOX announcers still talking about that “short RF porch” just this postseason?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 11, 2010 6:53 PM PST reply actions
Somebody on MLB Network,
I’m pretty sure it was Harold Reynolds, said that the short right field porch was a danger for the Giants pitchers when they faced the big boppers of Texas. Fool. He later backtracked after we won Game One of the WS, and talked about what a hard field it was to play — as witness poor Vlad Guerrero.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 11, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
the guy used to be a stud.
it’s the weirdest thing.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Before Gm 1, Harold had also said it wouldn’t be a big challenge for Vlad to play RF there because the short porch would protect him, not a lot of long runs! Even for Harold it was an amazingly stupid comment, although still not as funny as his literally shouting “BUSTER POSEY’S NOT READY TO CATCH IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES!!!!” the day the Molina trade was announced.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
I remember both of those things, and neither shocked me. He’s the worst analyst on television.
The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS
Funny thing is, in September he fell in love in Posey. Said the MLB logo is a reverse Posey stance. Overbearing man-love to a point where everyone else on the network kept rolling their eyes.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I love that opening music
So epic.
Hi Flem!
by RichHerreraHomer on Dec 11, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
I guess nobody is. Bummer.
Mr. Merope went to watch hockey and some UFC thing at a friend’s house. They have a brand new baby, and I’ve got a cold… so I’m at home. Phooey!
I'm saving it for next week.
Tomorrow night is the clinching game against the Braves. Sorry you’re under the weather, though. Take it easy and try to scream quietly when the Giants win. (Oops, I gave it away!)
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 11, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Noes!
Spoiler!!!
hehe
I’m using my time honored cure of tons of garlic bread and lots of tea. Hopefully I’ll be all better by Monday. …just in time for another little darling to sneeze in my face!
Why not try sneezing at the tiny tot first
as a kind of preemptive strike? And do the G’s really win? I was just pretending!
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 11, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I think I could probably get fired for that… spitting at a defenseless 4 year old, you know.
And at the rate they are going, no, the Giants aren’t winning this game!
Long game is long!
Defenseless?
No sneezing toddler is defenseless. Defenstrated, now, that’s something else.
by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 12, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
OT
Check out the newest (last official one) 30 for 30 on SMU football when it’s rerun. Very interesting.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I was watching it earlier; I’ll watch the rest probably when I eat dinner. It’s fascinating, but I’m not sure how ESPN can make any money off it (the first ad break is 45 minutes in).
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
All of these are being released on DVD.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Ah, I see.
Well, if they’re successful financially, then I hope ESPN decides to go beyond the original 30. The quality of the series has generally been good, and several films have been excellent.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
They are. Sometime in 2011, there will be a story on Steve Bartman (which was originally part of 30 for 30).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I remember hearing about that one. Why was it delayed?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Yah Simmons is an executive producer..
On his most recent podcast he said the director asked for more time
You may know
That runs scored is neutral or that getting a few more triples and doubles instead of homeruns doesn’t effect scoring or that RBIs are irrelevent in evaluating a player’s worth but those statistics are relevent to enough people, including front offices, that it has an impact on how much a player is paid. It seems to me that agents care more about money than splitting hairs about the technical aspects of scorin runs.
by Rorsavelt on Dec 11, 2010 7:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions
If the run scoring environment is average, though, then nobody is getting robbed of RBIs. It really is ONLY the home run for lefties. Which is still kind of a big deal for those guys, but all this “robs them of RBI” stuff is nonsense.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
How about...
they just say, fuck it, we’re going to back the wall up to 482 feet in center. Who needs home runs.
(not really)
/hits 315 foot HR down left field line
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
AND THEY’RE GOING CRAZY, THEY’RE GOING CRAZY, HEY-YO!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Cracked IS great
Cain is better.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 11, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Uhh
Why would an agent concede to his client (and thus to the Giants) that the ballpark plays fair? If anything shouldn’t he play up the myth (I’m sure Boras would) to the Giants and to the media to get them to OVERPAY his client to get him to sign with the team?
In Grant's scenario
the Giants are already offering more, but the FA is reticent to join because of the park. So the agent (who gets more if the player gets more) would be like “dude, stfu and take the money”. I think the issue is more that the Giants just aren’t willing to pay the money it takes to get those guys.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
exactly that
Nick Johnson took $500k less to play in NY. Does that mean he’d never, ever play here? No, it means it would have taken more money. I think LaRoche was the same deal but I forget the money differential. I’m sure there are players that just dismiss it out of hand too, but saying “X player took less money to sign somewhere else” doesn’t necessarily mean there’s no amount of money in the world that could do it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 5:47 AM PST up reply actions
You have to believe . . .
That Nick Johnson, as would many (most?) free agents, was influenced by the advantages of playing on a team that is as close as any as a lock to a post-season bid. And thus a very good chance of a championship. One has to figure that he would have taken less to play in NYC and—whether or not the “AT&T pitchers’ park” meme had an impact on him—it would have taken more for the SFGs to hire him. I’ve been told that few thought we would make the postseason this year, let alone win the World Series.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 12, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
And one would thing that
One WS title, the best pitching staff in baseball, a great clubhouse, and a team that looks poised to have at least a 2-3 year run would put us in the “good possibility of being a lock for a post-season bid” category too so we might be able to get the Nick Johnson’s or Nick Johnson type players. Throw in a great ballpark atmosphere and not having to deal with all the BS that comes from playing for the Sawx or the Yanks and there’s major potential there.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 12, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
One would also think that Nick Johnson might have assumed he’d have less of a chance of getting hurt because he wouldn’t have to play the NL Clown Ball rules, and could just DH.
LOL NICK JOHNSON LOL
The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS
I can’t stop seeing Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain here. It’s the hair that does it.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
by El Person on Dec 11, 2010 9:33 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
wrecked
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
If you want, you can extend the analogy to the rest of the staff without too much difficulty. Sweden is MadBum because he’s calm and businesslike. Iceland is Zeets because he’s off doing his own thing. Dirty as Finland doesn’t work quite so well, but the language he speaks is different from the language the rest of them speak.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
by El Person on Dec 11, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Iceland is Zeets because Bjork.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Calm down Kuip, its not like this is a big deal or anything...
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Dec 11, 2010 10:21 PM PST reply actions
SPOILER ALERT
It didn’t matter!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 5:48 AM PST up reply actions
In retrospect,
the fact that some FAs may or may not prefer mays field didn’t keep the Giants from winning the world series in 2010. So whatever, man.
Seriously though, I totally agree. The park is perfect. And I think FAs don’t come here simply because the Giants don’t pay them. If they’re going to get a 7 year deal anyways, who would give a crap if their stats are affected by the park AFTER they’ve gotten the deal?! That makes no sense.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
that'll do bum, that'll do.
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Dec 11, 2010 10:26 PM PST reply actions
OT:
Would Ryan Garko have received a ring if the Texas Rangers had won the 2010 World Series?
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
Garko gets two
No matter what
Bochy & Co. -- Your 2010 World Series Champions
by GrayDilla on Dec 11, 2010 11:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
How does Bengie get his championship ring?
By FedEx?
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Dec 12, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
The bottom line is...
AT&T Park is perfect for what the Giants have NOW.
What they have NOW is a team that just won the World Series…a team that just won the World Series…a team that just won the World Series…a team that just won the World Series…a team that just won the World Series…
( I’m sorry; I just didn’t want to stop. Like potato chips, I kept wanting one more)
…primarily with its pitching.
In the late 1990’s, the Phone Booth couldn’t hold a large-headed Barry Bonds, but it may not hurt someone like J.T. Snow at times (though he had very good home stats in 2000 — the Giants first year in the new ballpark).
It DOES often hurt left-handed power hitters, and even Aubrey Huff — who just re-upped for another two years — agonized over it at times during the season.
But given that the team’s success has been based primarily on pitching — and given that there’s no reason to suppose that the game plan will change in the near future — of course, the ballpark is perfect as it is.
If the game plan ever should change, THAT would be the time to revisit the issue.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 12, 2010 12:45 AM PST reply actions
I meant to say ""but it may have hurt someone like J.T. Snow"
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 12, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
And in terms of cosmetic changes...
I would prefer a deeper-voiced PA announcer.
Go ahead, shoot me.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 12, 2010 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
Her voice is too high, and she's too smug.
What’s taking place on the field is not about her, even if she thinks so.
By the way, bullets bounce off my chest. Why else would I invite others to shoot me?
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 12, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I don't get a sense of smugness from her.
She just seems like a cool lady.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Smug? I was going to leave you alone, but that’s crossing the line in the sand.
Screw you. Renel is the best PA announcer in the league.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Now you’re just trying to be antagonistic.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I drew a line in the sand, JD, and it was crossed. What was I supposed to do?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Line drawing can be tricky in that way.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Renel is squeaky and smug.
Hee hee hee.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Dec 12, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I've met her
She helped my wife and her sister when they were opening a business by plugging it on the radio (for free) and MCing their grand opening.
She could not have been cooler.
So unless you’ve had some sort of personal interaction with her, consider yourself wrong and leave it that.
The thong is, it happened.
NO U
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t like Renel but I’m thinking now it has more to do with the really LOUD PA system because when the PA plays a tape of her doing the emergency plan before the game it isn’t loud and she is tolerable.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I can actually understand when people don’t like her voice, though I do disagree. What I can’t understand is when people don’t like her style. Why would anybody prefer to listen to somebody talk about their team with absolutely no enthusiasm to speak of for either the team or the job itself? The very thought of some droll gentleman monotoning the names of my favorite players into some soul-deadening, tasteless vocal paste depresses me.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I think it has something to do with old school vs. new school. Old school baseball everything quiet including the PA announcer, no loud music in-between innings, no kiss cam or fist pump cam or (as in Oakland) dot racing or any racing.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
See, I can totally understand not wanting the Kiss Cam or the crazy music or the other gimmicks, but wanting the person representing the team to sound bored to even be there is just crazy talk to me.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of people grew up on sounds of Bob Sheppard in NY or Roy Steele in Oakland. That style, although Steele can some enthusiastic.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Roy Steele is fantastic, but I like Renel fine.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
although...
i am a big fist pump cam fan
by BrianIsAwesome on Dec 12, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve just now come to realize how annoying a shrieking woman can be. There are these college-age kids who live in various apartments all around my block. I can barely hear the boys even when they’re shouting because, you know, low frequencies. But there is one girl … omg … the incarnate reason of why I should not be allowed to have a gun.
But Renel is not that girl.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
So what else are you wrong about?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Well, at least you’re aware of your wrongness.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Renel
I was actually trash talking on email with Sawx and Yankees fan this week (which was awesome and highly recommended) about how lame it is that they go out and buy Crawford, Gonzalez and Lee and after shutting down most of their arguments, the only thing anybody could say was “yeah, but you have a woman as a PA announcer.”
I took that as meaning I won the argument
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Dec 12, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Crap!!! Agent Ned’s cover has been blown!!!
GM Ned Colletti has repeatedly told us his hands are not tied because of the McCourt mess.
This makes Colletti a liar.
Or, the worst judge of talent in baseball history.
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Or, a former Giants executive still doing what he can to help the Bay Area team by mucking up the Dodgers.
by TimLaser and MattyC on Dec 12, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions
WTF how did they find out
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Mariners acquire Brendan Ryan
I wanted those socks on our team =(
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think those are just the default Cardinals socks. I only remember one other Cardinal wearing high socks (Jason Simontacci) and they were the same.
Though he probably would have worn the ZIto orange stripe ones here so that would be cool.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
the Giants should have been in on Ryan
His defense is superb, and the Mariners gave up a totally fungible minor-league pitcher. Good move.
I like having a whole section of seats to myself
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 12, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Man Al Davis really screwed Oakland and the A’s. Look at it. Look at that thing. I heard when the Coliseum outfield looked out to the Oakland hills it was pretty beautiful. Then came Albert Speer.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
re: "Mt Davis", that is
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
It really was nice, especially at sunset. I also think that closing in the OF also messed up the airflow and made it too hot on warm days there.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
ff. nerd references
It’s like in that old cartoon “Spiral Zone” when a city would get taken over by the Zone and all these horrible encrustations get added to it.
Or when Minas Ithil was conquered by Mordor and became Minas Morgul.
Or when a person gets Borgified.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I don’t understand anything in this comment.
by Cookyman on Dec 12, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought my nerd credentials were pretty good, but I only got #2 and #3.
by non sequitur on Dec 12, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like “I understand the source for references to The Borg” should be part of the user agreement for the site.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, lots of non-nerds know what the Borg is.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
But I’m a nerd who doesn’t understand.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
cuz see it’s all pretty and human and then it gets Borgified which means all this ugly crap gets pazted on yay
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I am Locutus
of Borg. Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service…us.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 12, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Huh?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Howie! Pls. explain!
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I think Tom Tolbert got his producer to add Scooby Doo noises to his mixer. I’m not sure if that has any connection to this, but the noise itself is one of confused questioning.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Or you wanted me to explain about the Borg?
It’s pretty simple, really. And when they finally manage to not screw up that whole time-travel conquest of humanity thing, no explanations will be necessary.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
QUESTION
Are you referring to the original TNG conceptualization of the Borg, which I feel was purer but had more primitive makeup, or the post-First Contact Borg with better makeup, but with a Borg Queen? THIS IS IMPORTANT.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 12, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
It was
It’s sad that the stadium went from this…
To this…
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
Even the sky looks better when there’s no Mt. Davis.
by non sequitur on Dec 12, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like there's a game goin on there
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Lol Dodgers
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers-20101212,0,2176382,full.column
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I am amused
By a columnist who says that the Dodgers are hampered by bad finances, and then advocates signing Cliff Lee. That’s how you get bad finances!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Simers is 500 times worse than any columnist in the Bay Area. He’s Mariotti bad.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I would say he's more like Radnich bad
He’s not a complete idiot like Mariotti. He has his shtick and knows what stirs people up.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 12, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone else read True Blue LA
just to soak up some Dodger angst?
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
Not regularly...
But its a fun place to go when you’re bored.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
This just doesnt seem pretty good at all... what in the hell
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I'm not familiar with all of these moves
But I have a hard time believing that anything could beat giving talent, money, and playing time to/for Betancourt.
The Royals have no idea what TALENT is
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Three Words
Jose Guillen $36M
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 12, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
LOL NEWB
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
4. marinate, baby
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
5. sautee, baby.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
6. consume with a side of haricot verts, baby
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
7. burn baby burn.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
8. Oh, god, how it burns. Why didn’t anybody refrigerate the haricot verts? Oh, god, my ass is on FIRE. This isn’t fair.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair
Some of these aren’t actually bad moves, like the Callaspo trade.
But some are just fascinating, like trading Ramon Ramirez for Coco Crisp – Crisp is/was a good player, and trading a reliever for a starting position is generally good, and Ramirez’s K rate has gone downhill since being traded – but why in the world would a rebuilding team trade a player that’s under control for 4 more years for a 1-year rental? It’s just bizarre. The year before they were 4th in the division, 14 games behind 1st place, and 20 behind the Wild Card, and they made no other acquisitions – so there’s no way they thought they could contend (they ended up winning 65). Why would they possibly do that?
Fascinating.
If Ramirez is fungible and Crisp might be the kind of player that a team would want in July, you could make an argument that you’re swapping Ramirez for four months of better play in center, which would then be flipped for something more valuable than Ramirez. That’s not playing devil’s advocate, either — that’s a pretty sound move. Because Ramon Ramirez.
But Farnsworth? Yeah. Woof.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Jeepers H. Crackers.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I find it pretty amazing that a lot of their signings/trades are garbage from the Mariners. Also, it doesn’t even go back to when they gave the A’s Damon and Dye for practically free.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Dec 12, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
This chart should be the standard "life could be worse" response...
…whenever anyone complains about Sabean.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Considering he's signed through 2014 or something like that
I honestly wonder if Moore hasn’t been trying to tank it for the draft picks. I mean, Jason Kendell? There’s non chance Moore thought he makes the team better. Absolutely non. Maybe he thought his veteran leadership will rub off on their young pitchers, and as a bonus they move up a spot in the 2011 draft?
As a rule I tend to scoff at these sort of accusations...
But some of those trades/signings do have to make you wonder. They are absolutely terrible.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
OT: Jeeze, 60 mins with Jerry Jones, guy is so freakin rich, unreal
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Media: “HOW DOES IT FEEL TO OWN A TEAM THAT IS LOSING?”
JJ: “Oh, about the same as it did in 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1997, 1990, and 1989.”
Media: “HOW INTERESTING!”
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
THE MAN IS JUST SO SO SO SO INTERESTING!!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Jones current conditions reminds me of Victor in Underworld, just before Kate Beckinstal cuts herself to wake him.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 12, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Is the ad with the blue background still there? I found a way to get rid of it the first night it went up.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It's weird to me
that there are so many comments directed at a “Howie” on this site.
I’ve never met another Howie in my life.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
Howie Mandel.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And his real name's not even Howie
It’s Ralph (“rafe”) or something.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Abacus.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s something like Barrett Poker.
by non sequitur on Dec 12, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Aloysius?
Madison?
Allison?
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not even my real name.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
i know that.
Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez
by Howie Bruno on Dec 12, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
The T. stands for Taters.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
I admit
I actually kinda like ballpark food. It’s always expensive, but I don’t like eating before I go to a game.
It helps that I don’t really drink, so I don’t have to throw down 10 for a beer.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Cha Cha Bowls are thoroughly adequate!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This line.
Call it part of the atmosphere.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I like the dog sold at the Gilroy garlic fries stand.
someone with more free time than sense.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
The clam chowder in the sourdough bowls is not inedible!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
Well, yeah, but everyone likes hot dogs.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the Cha Cha Bowls?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 13, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know because they seem overpriced and I’ve never bothered. Ditto with the crab sandwiches, which I expect I’d like if they really don’t use canned mitten crabs (IIRC it’s a "Dungeness crab sandwich).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:50 AM PST up reply actions
Canned mitten?
Where are they gonna get one of those with Velez no longer on the team?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Dec 13, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I have season tickets and I go to most games so I have to eat first before I go or else I would be in the poor house (even with the $5 credit on my ticket).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Do you buy a soda with the credit or something? I ended up with a credit last year and found the choices kinda limited.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
This is why you just bring a case of beer to the parking lot
and then just shot gun every one of em. Then you don’t have to spend any money for booze at the game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You can also recycle the empties on the way home, right after you crash into a 7-11. Profit!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
actually
you don’t do that. Because grown men don’t drink in parking lots, unless they plan on committing arson.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
And...?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The crab sandwich is expensive as all else, but really delicious.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 12, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
It is good but I only tried it because I got the 5 dollar food credit so it ended up being 10 bucks.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Is it made of two $5 bills with $5 worth of mayonnaise and crab between them?
I love crab sandwiches but that’s crazy. I hadn’t noticed the prices in a while I guess.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:54 AM PST up reply actions
OT: I HATE HATE HATE HATE Finals week...
Geography of Europe is pissing me off, i understand that the Balkan countries are screwing up BAD, and that the economy out there is pretty MEH, and the EU is awesome, got it, thanks
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
like i seriously couldnt care less about Morocco not being able to get into the EU
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Keep me updated about that plz kthx
Bochy & Co. -- Your 2010 World Series Champions
by GrayDilla on Dec 13, 2010 2:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
/sympathizes
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
What does that subject involve? It sounds interesting/easy.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
geopolitics and the geography of europe
just not something i’m interested in
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
So I was looking at College Football Reference and wow, Miami isn’t very good at football.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
you know they're one of the best football programs in the country
some of the best college coaches… Sean Peyton, Urban Meyer i believe? Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler, Ara Parsegian, Ron Zook, quite a few awesome coaches… best turnaround program in the country this year though
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I mean compared to their record. SRS is absolutely terrible for them.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Well… we’re getting better every year… that’s a plus :)
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Next week’s “Inside the Clubhouse” episode looks awesome.
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13065339
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13065337
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
LOL
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Dec 12, 2010 10:52 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
For real? Wooooooooow.
I might have just lost my faith in humanity…
’cept the Giants won the World Series! So, I guess not.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Before Shop
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
So. much. fail.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Ball Four!
/Gary Darling’d
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
Also, wrecked.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I want that picture grant made
Of the gameday image of Nate swinging at that pitch that hit him.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It was one of those gameday images of an at-bat
And there was one ball labeled a strike that was right where Nate was standing…
Maybe you didn’t make it, but I feel like you used it in a post, maybe? It’s been a while.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I remember Rowand did something like that against the Cubs
Maybe Ryan Dempster; the ball was so far outside, the catcher couldn’t even hang onto it.
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
LOLINA
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 6:57 AM PST up reply actions
Lol I like how the good goes a good 3-4 inches off the plate
Bochy & Co. -- Your 2010 World Series Champions
by GrayDilla on Dec 13, 2010 2:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
A ball is a strike if so much as the tippy top of one seam crosses any part of the plate. A baseball is three inches wide. So the strike zone – the rulebook zone, no less – extends three inches off the plate. And most umps call it another inch or three besides, especially versus lefties.
So how come we never see the umps bring out their rulers
Yea I understand, they have calibrated eyeballs.
I've been watching Grizzly Bear videos,
I need a kick.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
This thread’s been alive for two days and it only has 800 comments? Times are slow. We need more “CLIFF LEE’S AGENT TALKING TO THE GIANTS” rumors.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
BLOG LINKS GIANTS TO CLIF BAR!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
I knid of like
just watching highlights of teh Giants destroying Cliff Lee in the World Series.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 13, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Whoever #10 is, I fucking hate that guy.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
SHIFT-A + O/T
Amazon shipped my WS DVD set today, and the price had dropped to $37.99. Whoo!
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
The Dodgers signed Eugenio Velez, according to the team’s Twitter feed.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Dec 13, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
BUT!
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Dec 13, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
rec'd
A suitable backup for Booo-ribe.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
the idea that hitters wont come here cause of the park
is almost complete garbage…money talks, that’s it….the park-please
Trade Sabean...
Pac Bell Park = Perfection
left handed hitters can suck it, btw, aubrey huff comes here, he’s left handed, and he has the best year of his career
the park plays perfectly, that’s why it’s the crown jewel of MLB
WORLD CHAMPS BIATCH2##!
Trade Sabean...
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