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What would they would have been paid at the Winter Meetings?

I’ve done this before, but it’s been a few years. What would various Giants throughout history have been paid if they were free agents this offseason?

Star-divide

Chili Davis

The Giants really did let Davis go as a free agent. "Gee, we’d sure like to keep this switch-hitting, defensively gifted, patient outfielder with power, but...whoa, three years and four million dollars? We’re not suckers. Good luck with all that, Angels. We’ll do just fine with Candy Maldonado."

What he’d get if he were a free agent today:

Five years, $86M. That might be underestimating it, actually. He could still play center, and he still had that young player smell about him.

Brett Butler

The Giants signed him as a free agent when he was 30 after he hit .295/.399/.425 with 33 steals for the Indians, and his center field defense was still highly regarded.

What he’d get if he were a free agent today:

Six years, $97M. The crazy thing is that he would have been worth it. Also, it would have kept the stink of Dodger off him, though it was always there in his heart, gnawing at his soul.

Jeff Kent

I think Kent would have been a free agent after the 1998 season if the Giants didn’t sign him to an extension before the season. In ‘98, his age-30 season, Kent hit .297/.359/.555 with 31 homers and 128 RBI, and he also led the league in surly.

What he’d get if he were a free agent today:

Seven years, $128M. Like Butler, he would have been worth it. Every penny. He stayed healthy and productive well into his late 30s, and he wasn’t moved off second base. He was a good player in his 20s, but he build a Hall-of-Fame career in his 30s. That’s not the usual career stache. Path. Career path. Sorry.

Bill Swift

Agent: Over 232 innings. An ERA of 2.82.

Yankees: We would like to offer the Empire State Building.

Agent: Well, that’s generous, but...

Yankees: We’re not finished. Each floor would be filled with treasure. Doubloons, pieces of eight...the works.

Agent: Look, if you’re just going to low-ball us....

Yankees: We haven’t even gotten to the wenches! Every floor! Wait! Come back!

What he’d get if he were a free agent today:

Five years, $105M. He wasn’t an established workhorse, so he wouldn’t have received a Cliff Lee kind of deal, but teams would have fought over him like mad. He, uh, wouldn’t have provided a good return on the investment.

Willie McCovey

Oh, man. I can’t tell if he’d be a free agent after his age-27 or age-28 season, but it wouldn’t have mattered much. He was an absolute monster, and he was just entering his prime years. It would have been a free agent bloodbath.

What he’d get if he were a free agent today:

Ten years, $220M. And the Red Sox wouldn’t have looked back. It would have been weird to watch him play against Mays whenever the Yankees came to Boston.

Comment starter: Your turn. Predict the players I’ve missed, from "Turkey" Mike Donlin to Tom Haller.

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Barry Zito

probably would still get 7 years, 126M coming into this winter (as a free agent at the time he signed with the Giants.)

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

What about Barry Bonds in 1993?

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by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

I didn’t want to break the internet.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Legitimately

He’d already been an MVP, he was better than Crawford, and he was, what, 29? The same age as Crawford?

I don’t see him getting anything less than 250 million. Probably 300.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

10 years 300 million.

Is that to high?

10/250 no problem.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d pay him 10 years 400 million.

Oops.

There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.

by Unitard on Dec 10, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

And he would have been easily worth it.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Certainly nothing less than A-Rod money.

Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.

by MHizzle on Dec 10, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Phhh. 29? Hasn’t the optimum peak been worked out to be like 16? That guy doesn’t have any good years ahead of him.

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 10, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

100 billion dollars

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 10, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

tractor beam

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

by slackersphere17 on Dec 10, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

20 years 293485724362436823940

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

Screw you Flannery.

by sanfrankid on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What about for the 2002 season

coming off of a 1.387 OPS at age 36?

4 years 160?

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what an owner would pay for Barry's 2001 season alone

If it were somehow guaranteed that Barry would break the home run record and put up the numbers he did, what kind of 1-year deal could he get? 60mil?

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"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well how much is 1 WAR worth now apparently? 6 million or something?

He put up a bWAR of 12.5 that year.

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THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

If not much of a sabermetrics guy,

But a 12.5 WAR has to be the highest ever for a single season, non-pitcher, doesn’t it?

by JSing on Dec 10, 2010 7:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

close

Excluding the crazy 1880s guys, Babe Ruth leads with a 14.7 in 1923.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

god dammit

fuckin Ruth.

I hate when people tell me Ruth and Williams were better than Bonds.

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds had the best plate discipline, period.

Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.

by MHizzle on Dec 10, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Ruth was certainly a better pitcher.

by Natto on Dec 11, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

94-46!

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

6 years Eleventy Billion, easy.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If Cuban owned the Texans

10 years for the Mavricks

It's better to be lucky than good.

by Myemail21479 on Dec 10, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

One. Million. Dollars.

/Dr. Evil pinkey thing

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

/everybody laughs at him

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

/blows up something

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

/blowing up something fails

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

/preparation H plan

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

/> sharks with friggin laser beams

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL THE SAN JOSE SHARKS BLOW

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Mascot: SJ Sharkey

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants mascot: Lou

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ferrigno?

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't want to see him angry.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

OR ELSE WHAT?!??!?!?!!?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

NO U!!!

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BOTH OF U

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

..

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not kissing…

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s smooching.

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by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Frottage

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

does that mean two male J’s?

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks that way to me, but I’m no expert in the physiology of Js.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

J Physiology

now in its third edition. available at your local bookstore.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Frotteurs are mostly male, but frottees..

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Upside-down Eskimo kisses!

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Docking?

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

by slackersphere17 on Dec 10, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit.

Better than Crawford, more power shown and potential

Probably an 8-10 year deal 22-25 mil per.

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by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds in his prime is worth, like double what A-Rod is woth right now.

How many players since 2000 have put up a single-season WAR of 10+?

Two: Bonds (a bunch of times)
Beltre (2004)

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds

Could have signed a 15 year 600 million dollar contract and his production would still have exceeded the value of the contract.

Just. Plain. Ridiculous!

by Franchise55 on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Its impossible to really think about the numbers he put up without having your mind-blown.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Last night I had desert with a group that had a net worth of...

Over $3.5B. Yes, with a “B”. And for the record, I contributed negatively to the table’s net worth, so don’t player hate. Also, when I got back to my house I felt really strange combination of: weird, jealous, hateful, not caring, questioning what I am doing, and knowing that I am on the right track.

I digress. Barry Bonds was a much better baseball player than all of us combined. So I’m thinking at least $6.5B over 10 years.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way

I didn’t have a desert either, I had dessert. Stupid English language.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do people keep saying he was better than Crwaford?

I mean, does it really need to be said? The difference between 1992 Bonds and 2010 Crawford is bigger than the difference between Crawford and Velez.

10 years, $320M. Really.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I recall during the 09 season when Burriss was stinking it up at 2nd someone pointed out that the difference between manny and a league avg 2nd baseman was bigger than the difference between Pujols and Ishikawa.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

15 years, $insert necessary value here, really.

Bonds’ worth is about as close to incalculable as you can get.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Crawford is bitch shit compared to Bonds

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what's bigger than a million dollars?

A billion dollars!

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Dec 10, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

Ah shoot, reply fail

But I remember the Bonds thing being a huge crazy deal at the time, and now it seems so quaint. $43 million/6 years is like Juan Uribe money now.

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Dec 10, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Ten years

and amount equal to half the Gross Domestic Product of France.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

/divide by zero graphic of whirlpool

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Lifetime deal, 50% of all income.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone care to help with a Brett Butler question?

Am I misremembering, or did BB have a show after every game?

/ getting old

San Francisco Giants, 2010 World Series champions.

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 10, 2010 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

He did

Brenly had one before him and Kuiper before that.

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Brett was just ever so personable and had lots of white teeth

Clean and inspirational and a role model for youth. After a while your flesh began to crawl.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

A Colorado Rockie, in other words.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Brett is a coach/manager in the D'backs organization

these days—but yeah, Brett would have done perfect promo shots with the damn purple dinosaur. His jaw would have been jutting in a manly way.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Reno Aces manager

We get to see his act everyday!

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Kent had a great year in 1998, but it was his best year by a mile, and I think it was generally thought of as “career year” rather than “finally turned the corner.” And nobody ever trusts second basemen in their thirties. I’d put him down for four years, $75 million.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

But what about his MVP season? That could arguably be the best season of his career.

Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.

by MHizzle on Dec 10, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, definitely. I’m talking about from the perspective of a GM considering signing him after his 1998 season.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh right, because he turned 30 that year.

Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.

by MHizzle on Dec 10, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm so glad to be discussing this btw

instead of the impact of Miguel Olivo or Jeff Francoeur signing. Man Royals Review was depressing to read.

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Remember when the Giants signed former Royals star Michael Tucker?

Yeah.

Holy crap, I just found this.

Michael Tucker is the 73rd greatest Royal of all time? That’s gotta sting.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Aw.
Before the Royals had a chance to decline to offer Tucker arbitration, the San Francisco Giants inexplicably swooped up Tucker and signed him to a deal, perhaps confused that there would be a rush on the light hitting outfielder.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

SARS!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Explains the look on Tucker’s face. “Oh, shit! They always put all the sickly kids down the line…aw, shit, dropped the ball again.”

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL canadians.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

those were good unis

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of baseball vests.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Me neither.

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

What about other vests?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel a song coming on!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Made from real gorilla chest!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Feel this sweater, there’s no better than authentic Irish Setter

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 10, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

im all about vests
theyre the best part about the rockies
I prefered the dbacks old unies for that reason as well
one day a team will take the final step of sweater vests

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind the Reds’ version either.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course if the Giants went to vests, Wilson would be sleeveless.

TOO MUCH SKIN /qatar

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t there, or wasn’t there, some kind of anti-tattoo rule? Which was why a player on the Rangers whose name I will not use used to wear long sleeves?

Anyway when I think of vest jerseys I think of pictures of Ted Kluszewski, who looked pretty at home in those. Which is probably why I don’t mind the Reds’ vests now that I think about it.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s the “Justin MIller” rule.

by Natto on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The Reds are the only team that really pulls it off well.

The other ones don’t look awful, but . . . meh.

by sycasey on Dec 10, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You like the old Dback unis?

Teal, Purple, sleevless and pinstripes. Horrendous. Only outdone by these

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

vests are the best
jerseys are from um… jersey?

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Bah, those aren’t so bad. And notwithstanding the over-tealing of uniforms in the 90s those silly AZ unis were better than the abbreviation jerseys. DBACKS

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

IDWTC

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by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t fight too much about this, IMO “Diamondbacks” is kind of a ludicrous name too, so maybe I always thought the tealy purple fit.

Couldn’t they just be “Rattlers”? Or “Sidewinders”? The Tucson colors/unis seemed fine.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I just really hated the purple/teal and really like the new colors.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

A good friend of mine designed the current unis

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell him/her a guy from the internet says, “good job!”

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely a win with the color scheme.

I wasn’t crazy about the type selection though…

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing that bothers me about the Dbacks changing their Unis is that they became the 8 millionth team in MLB to have Red as there prime color. The teal and purple was unique at least, and the A on there uniforms used to look good with those colors. If you’ve ever been to Arizona those are the local colors

Brandon!
Belted deep to right-center field!

by Vaccaro on Dec 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Red is just as much a color of Arizona as purple and teal

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants should have rainbow uniforms since I hear those are the local colors.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Your SF Astros!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking about this when the playoffs started

2010 playoff teams and their colors:

Yankees: Primary dark blue, secondary a hint of red (MLB2k10 says so!)
Twins: Blue and red
Rangers: Blue and red
Rays: Multiple shades of blue and some other crappy colors
Phillies: Red and blue
Reds: Red
Braves: Blue and red
Giants: Orange and black

I left out white because it’s a part of every team’s color scheme to a certain extent. The amount of red and blue is staggering and if the ’Sox make the playoffs instead of the Rays then you have 6/8 teams with red/blue as the primary colors, and the Reds with a combination of red/white/black.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that the Giants are the 2010 World Series Champions.

by JSing on Dec 10, 2010 11:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m not sure I was with you until the end. I heartily endorse your conclusion.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 11, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the NL West has the three worst unis in baseball. It’s hard to handle all the ugly.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

hmmm

SD road urineforms?
DBACKS
Colorado grape jerseys?

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Padres’ road uniform is an absolute abomination. The other two are just uggly.

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I almost like ANY uniform that isn’t red, white, and blue. Seriously? All the colors in the universe and 85% of teams are some variation on red white and blue? Borrrrrrrrrrrrrring!

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by Merope on Dec 11, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

So you’re an A’s fan?

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind the A’s. When I was a kid in Hayward we were allowed to take BART in the summer to go to A’s day games: the Giants were too far away. So I have fond memories of attending A’s games (before Mt. Doofus). I’ve always preferred NL ball to AL ball though.

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by Merope on Dec 11, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I can dig ’em.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

/loads rifle

Then start diggin’.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That kid works for the foot clan.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The only MLB player from my high school?

Frank Paul Santangelo

by The Franchise on Dec 10, 2010 10:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I hated playing them in FB…. it seemed like there were 5 full squads of guys 6’2"/180, including the backs and receivers, in a league (at the time) where most of the squads were 25-30 players. The Yankees of the Golden Empire League!

Funny to think that they’re in a smaller division than Folsom now.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Listen, Michael Tucker is the only MLB player

to come out of my college and how cool is that? (Of course, when I went there it was an all-girl teachers college, and had just integrated.)

by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 10, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No MLB players came from my undergrad college, but from the university where I got my MA, the only one is Curtis Granderson.

Of course, now I’m in a PhD program, and a few ballplayers have come from that university….say, Buster Posey, the Drew brothers, Terry Kennedy, Deion Sanders…

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to Fresno State

I don’t wanna talk about the baseball players who came from my school.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Gardner!

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeff Weaver
Terry Pendelton

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Terry Pendleton

Keeper of the 8th MVP

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I've never seen that phrase before. I love it!

Wrecked.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I know of one baseball player who came from my school district. Yeah, C.C.!

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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Which would be high school, I mean… plenty of baseball players came from Cal.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Soon there won’t be any more.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily. I think they’re over halfway toward their goal there, which would save not only baseball, but each of the 5 cut sports for a number of years. A number, you hear me.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, awesome. I hadn’t seen that before.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Both Geoff Blum and Jeff Kent were on KNBR the past month promoting this.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeff Kent sometimes isn’t a jerk. His support for non-football sports at Cal, especially women’s sports, springs to mind.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t figure out how an intolerant person like Jeff Kent went to Cal.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

What? There are 20,000 kids there at any one time, and Cal’s holier-than-thou tolerance was waning pretty fiercely by the time I arrived in 1988. I doubt the population skews anything other than completely representative of the population any more.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It just seems like his far-right views doesn’t fit there even today.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If it means anything, they were able to tolerate me for four years.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So you were there around the time of that naked dude? Or did he arrive after you left?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The Naked Guy? Yeah, we overlapped very briefly. Never saw him. My wife used to see him around town, since she started grad school at Cal in 1992.

I fear she described him as, um, small. I kept telling her, it’s cold out there!

Recquiescat.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

All I remember about him was he left school and later on, with mental issues committed suicide.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s about right, I think. Sad story — I’ve always had a soft spot for the kind of lovably deranged characters Berkeley harbors. Anyone remember the Polka Dot Man? I liked that guy a lot.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

there was a CGB thread about this very subject the other day

In which I asked this very question, and got no response.

As covered in that thread, my favorite was always RRRRRRRRRRRARE!

A lot of love in that thread for someone called “Triangle Man” who was apparently a big deal because he worked out a lot. Gen Y weirdos at Cal leave something to be desired IMO.

Not quite this kind of intriguing debate between Hate Man and a Jesus freak (historical term, not an insult) called Y’shua Dave:

He also had a running conversation with the Hate Man, that as far as I could tell, was the same conversation daily:

Y’shua Dave: WHERE ARE THE ROMAN CATH-O-LICS?
Hate Man: ROME!
YD: WHERE ARE THE PROTESTANTS?
HM: OUT PROTESTING!
YD: WHERE ARE THE JEWS?
HM: JUDEA!!
YD: Y’SHUA!!!!!!!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Triangle Man was real. And he was fantastic.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn’t just that he worked out a lot. His upper body really was the human equivalent of an equilateral triangle. And he spent what appeared to be 18 hours a day in the DC. Never talking to anybody. Just walking around. Looking like a human triangle.

He wasn’t your vocal psycho Berkeley weirdo, but he was plenty weird for a lot more reasons than just being buff.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Particle Man better myself.

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by Merope on Dec 11, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

They have a fight, Triangle wins.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Frankie Frish

The Fordham Flash

yeah he went into the HoF with the Giants. Fuck with it.

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Long Beach State

Troy Tulowitzki
Evan Longoria
Jered Weaver
Jason Giambi
and of course the best of all: John Bowker!

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

Screw you Flannery.

by sanfrankid on Dec 11, 2010 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

JESSE FOPPERT!!!

aw floppy

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon Miller went to the Junior College I dropped out of!

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Miller > J.D.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Only baseball player from my high school who made it anywhere was Omar Minaya.

Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???

by rxmeister on Dec 10, 2010 2:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

i don’t think my high school ever produced MLB talent, but i’m failry ignorant on that matter.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

My brother played with Barry Bonds (and Joe Kmak) in American Legion ball.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

have any fun stories about Barry?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Screw Barry, I want the dirt on Kmak.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He beat my brother out for starting catcher, played about 70 games in the ML and is now a trig teacher at Serra.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to go watch him because he was Bobby Bonds’ kid…
If you’ve never been to Central Park in San Mateo you might not be able to appreciate how fucking far these are, but I’ve seen him hit balls over the left-center fence into the kids’ mini train area and over the trees in right field (and then across the El Camino and about 2 or 3 stories up on the building across the street). My brother worked his ass off to approach .300 and Barry hit above .500 without appearing to try overly hard – he was like a boy among men.
His personality hasn’t changed much – he can either be charming or a dismissive dick, depending on his mood.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

A man among boys?

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s the ticket.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

A... Walrusman?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

the right field porch in central park is so fucking far. he hit it over those trees?

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Serra High

Joe Kmak is a good friend of mine. No shit.

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You went to SRV huh?

what year

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I went somewhere between those two, probably about half-way.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL YOUNG!!!

Me = lol old…

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You were probably at SRV while I was at AV.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that Amador Valley? I barely have a recollection of your existence. Take no offense please, high school was shit.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 11, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Mark Madsen too

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

and Kristy Turlington?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

My highschool produced Marcello

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody from my high school has ever been drafted.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

My high school produced Jim Harbaugh and James Franco

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

My high school hasn’t produced any baseball talent. However, Koa Misi, rookie on the Dolphins, was a senior at the high school I went to as a freshman.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Williams...

…went to the high school I would have gone to if we hadn’t moved :(.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Not many people can say that.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Claim to fame!

My dad said he sent him a letter once begging him to beg someone else for better Giants radio in Carson City…nothing every came of it, of course.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

My college I'm currently attending

Had the current owner of the Padres. And who was that useless reliever on the Giants a few years back… Was it Erik Threets? One of our bullpen guys 2 or 3 yrs ago

Brandon!
Belted deep to right-center field!

by Vaccaro on Dec 10, 2010 4:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I go to UW...

…So Timmy FTW!

Granted, there’s so many people at this school that it doesn’t really count as unique.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooohhh

I’ve got Pat “The Bat” Burrell and Kevin Frandsen. I played high school ball and graduated with Kevin.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Dec 10, 2010 6:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Willie McGee went to the community college I briefly attended!

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 10, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

CSM

ftw

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

we got barry zito (kinda), ryan spilborghs and michael young

by shallow23 on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

UCSB?

Also Skip Schumacher.
I did a year abroad there as an undergrad, lovely place.

by Deleuzian on Dec 10, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Abroad?

Where did you go to school regularly?

"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm British

So I was at the University of Durham at the time, I’m now doing a PhD in Wales at Cardiff University

by Deleuzian on Dec 11, 2010 2:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Tim Linceum

Certainly the best baseball player to graduated from my college. UW is becoming more of a basketball school than a football school, but we have always had a decently competitive baseball team.

by D-T on Dec 10, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering we just made our first bowl game since 2002…I would guess UW has long since ceased to be a football school.

But definitely yes on Timmy.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

/can’t type that much

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The important thing to remember here

is that Baker Krukow was a coach for my baseball team my senior year. Our head coach is the brother of John Savage, UCLA’s head baseball coach. I played against Tony Thompson, currently a prospect for the Rangers.

Off the top of my head I can think of a few current and former players from the University of Nevada, which is my current educational institute: Kevin Kouzmanoff, Lyle Overbay, Chris Singleton, Chad Qualls.

Other players from the area: Shawn Estes, Matt Williams, Kevin Jepsen, Chris Aguila.

Oh, I’ve also shared a beer bong with Luke Babbitt, current Trailblazers bench warmer.

by JSing on Dec 10, 2010 11:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That grand slam he hit into the cove against the Rockies that one time was pretty cool

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I kinda liked him, despite the whole draft-pick drama.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 10, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

good BB%

And he got us Kelvin Pichardo!

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He had nice looking home run swings the few times he actually hit one.

by Natto on Dec 11, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w=2005/open/topplays/archive04/040905_colsfn_tucker_gslam_350.wmv&pid=gen_video&cid=sfn&v=2

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm the reason Tucker threw 2 balls into the cove when he was on the Reds!

And played 3 different positions that night! CF,RF, and 2b! Awesome night! Never heckled anybody that bad except maybe Sean Green!

We are fucking WORLD CHAMPS!

by jrod on Dec 13, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

This is genius.

Ya know, looking at the absurd money being thrown around really makes me wonder what MLB makes as a whole. What the entire enterprise pulls in. Anybody have figures on that?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

$1.39

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

All MLB teams make absolutely no profit each year, at all. In fact they all lose horribly large sums of money every year.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

But our Wise and Blessed Ownership Group aims for a symbolic profit every year, don’t they?

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, of course, like all franchises, with the best of profit-making intentions. Sadly, all franchises fail miserably and suffer huge, incalculable losses. That’s why they all declare bankruptcy every year.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

prolly 'bout tree fiddy

Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.

by Viliphied on Dec 10, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Nickerson?!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t wait to see what Cookyman decides we should talk about today.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

What hasn’t the group covered of late?

Religion – check
Politics – check
Economic analysis of various theoretical market systems – check

What’s left really? Lunch?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball I think.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like Blernsball, only more boring.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh, that’d be a waste of time.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

tv shows?
Movies?
Books?
radio programs?
all four? (hitch hikers guide)

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I love it . . .

 . . . but I only get to listen on non school days. Over Christmas.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I podcast it and love it.

My top 5 podcasts

Radio Lab
TAL
Wiretap
Freakonomics Radio
Harvard Business Review’s Ideacast
BS report (when he is not falating cousin Sal or Dave Jacoby)

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops not the right order

Freakonomics
Radio Lab
TAL
Wiretap
HBR Ideacast
BS Report sans falatio of homeboys

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Lunch, indeed.

Sandwiches: diagonal or crosswise? Please provide outcome-based evidence.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Crosswise, creating triangular corners for easy mouth application.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of us prefer rolls.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMMIT

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

needs moar food
stupid diet

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

For a second I thought there was some geometric rule that I was missing, that a crosswise cut would nonetheless produce triangles.

But yes, definitely diagonal. Making a larger sandwich into two smaller sandwiches is silly unless you really change the shape.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

diagonal if there is both cheese and tomatoes on the sammy
other wise in half crosswise

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting. I would agree as to peanut butter and [whatever].

Otherwise, diagonal is vital because That’s How Grandma Did It™. Grilled cheese must be cut in triangles. Must.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice Oxford comma you got there.

It begins anew…

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It’d be a real shame if something were to happen to it..

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It is about time for one of those.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Cookyman, can we debate the morals of raising UK tuition 3 fold but budgeting money for a Royal family? Please?

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Excuse me [applies monocle] only the monarch is subsidized, the Prince of Wales gets his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, and right of first night with all Cornish brides.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

… oh, crap, wrong medieval right. The Duke of Cornwall doesn’t get to bed the brides, he gets the first sturgeon of the catch, all estates left vacant by lack of heirs, and right of salvage for all wrecks.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Duke of Cornwall needs a better agent.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Boras could get him a 10 year/220 million pound sterling contract complete with a no-sturgeon clause.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 10, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

But caviar is delicious.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

butt caviar, however, is not

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why spelling will always trump comma use.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Which would people rather have?

I think I’d take the sturgeon, etc. As Duke, I bet I’d get plenty laid as is, and that’s a lot of estates, etc. to cash in.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

IIRC, that never actually existed.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem with Scotland is that it’s full of Scotts!

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh.

Technically I might point out that only in England will it rise, it will stay the same in Scotland + Wales (here).

by Deleuzian on Dec 10, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I demand to know how this will affect the Channel Islands!

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 10, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m still trying to grasp the idea that until relatively recently university in England was free.

0_o

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

And health care!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And now their economy is in the toilet.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of the UK and subsidizing things...

This is as good a place as any to link this. To be followed by this.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not in the toilet from free health care and education

They had the same stupid housing and real estate bubble entertwined with securities shenanigans combined with sending all manufacturing to China as we did.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh, its all the same.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Asians?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not entirely sure how the Liberal Democrats can justify voting to triple fees that they promised to abolish during the campaign. They’re claiming that the Coalition Agreement (which they were under no obligation to sign) trumps their manifesto. Of course it does.

LibDems will be decimated at the next election.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Then the media will tout that as a rejection of liberalism.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but the media is ridiculously stupid.

Also five-year fixed terms for Parliament are basically a power grab.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

HEY

I didn’t start the Luke Scott discussion, and I was a relatively small part of the Communism discussion (I just talked about history, I had little to do with the political arguments).

I am responsible for the Jesus talk, but I’m not ashamed of that, as it was 100% civilized, and extremely interesting.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You started the Communism thing, didn’t you?

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame myself for that. Though ‘blame’ implies some regret, and I don’t regret it one bit.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked the discussion, except when the whole “fascism-as-far-left” thing came up.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

As an living, breathing far leftist, I was a little appalled. Not so much that it exists, but by who promulgated it, a McC prospect hound who does great synthesis of scouting and numbers on minor leaguers and potential draftees. Takes all kinds, I guess.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I found it surprising myself.

When you say far-leftist, how far exactly? Trot?

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Lefter. When younger I would have cited Proudhon and Bakunin, but I find as I get older I get a lot more interested in things that are practical. Your way lefties don’t have a lot of good, operational heroes, I fear.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I find I identify with Subhas Chandra Bose more than any other.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely an operational hero and pretty far left. I don’t know much more than a sketch about him, though.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I myself know far less of the history of my people than I’d like.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It's an interesting crowd here

I’m a pretty conservative dude (more Libertarian than anything though), so I’ve never assumed that there would be that many people on a internet board about a San Francisco team who were on my team =P.

And, turns out, there really aren’t.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a lot of both small- and large-L libertarians in Silly Valley. I know plenty, from laiisez-faire absolutists to nutjob transhumanists.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The large-L's are more than a little quixotic

I’m more mainstream, I think. Try not to be too crazy. But I did vote for Ron Paul in the primaries!

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, his son’s fully mainstream.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He's my favorite senator

Because he’s willing to go after the Republican’s traditional sacred cows

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/16/john-mccain-rand-paul-defense-spending_n_783870.html

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I had hopes that he might be good, but his campaign really turned me off.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta run a certain way to win

I’ll judge him on how he votes. As of now, he’s one of two Republican senators who’ve talked about reducing the defense budget as necessary to fix our deficit problem. That, at least to me, takes guts.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

To what extent is Kentucky dependent on the military-industrial complex? That might be the deciding factor.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a pretty big military state

That is, after all, where Fort Knox is.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

So then I doubt he’ll do anything.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt he CAN do anything

Most senators are too afraid of being labeled ‘soft on terror’ to ever even propose the notion that we should spend less on defense.

Paul isn’t.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re voting for the guy who supports the gold standard, you should try a little harder

Mark DeRosa, still existing.

by oldjacket on Dec 10, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw, c’mon. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

When you say they’re quixotic, I like to think you mean they fight windmills.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

We are, in general

Opposed to federal subsidies for alternative energy projects, including but not limited to wind power.

So, yes.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a libertarian. Lower-case.
Living in San Francisco is a hoot.
How do you do.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember working in SF during the summer of 08.

I told all the Obama organizers who were canvassing in SF that I was voting for Nader. They were not pleased.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Identifying as a libertarian is scarcely worth the hassle of explanation anymore.
I tell people that apart from civil liberties, I’m not particularly interested in government.
And that I hope it returns the favor.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Truf

Though I now go to college in DC and have worked for Republicans, which means I get a lot of shit for being from the SF area.

My only rejoinder is that San Francisco is where the Republicans nominated the best man to ever run for president:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Republican_National_Convention

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Brett Butler has no soul
Also, it would have kept the stink of Dodger off him, though it was always there in his heart, gnawing at his soul.

and I hope he dies of pancreatic cancer of the face.

by Scott210 on Dec 10, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

Butler: “I always wanted to play for [name_of_current_team]”

Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.

by bgunn on Dec 10, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Clark before the 1994 Season

Coming off a bad year & entering his age 30 season. I’d say he gets 6 years at around $96 million.

I can't fight this feeling anymore!

by ResDog on Dec 10, 2010 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

Broke my fucking heart

I actually held it against him until I had a chance to meet him and I told him he crushed me. He said “God damn Magowan crushed me!”

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Clark was this young fan's favorite player.

Then he went to Texas. As a kid, you have to choose a new favorite player, and it can’t be the obvious one (Bonds). Then Matt Williams got traded. To this day I refuse to answer “who’s your favorite player?” Also, I need to stop watching games with people who ask who my favorite player is.

Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!

by jasomack on Dec 10, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey there, so I was wondering, who’s your favorite player?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The correct answer is choosing an obscurish player.

JT SNOW FANS REPRESENT

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

SHUT UP

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

/crazy jumping thing

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Here.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Reporting for Snow patrol!

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw man, remember the “Snow Pack” thing he used to do? <3

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

<3

Dang this is getting to be one nostalgic thread…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It's so clear now that he's all that you have

"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks

by Gobroks on Dec 10, 2010 6:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

High socks and all.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Who's your favorite plaaaaaaaaayer

Mr. Derrick Brooks. 153 tackles, 36 assists, two times All-Pro

How many times?

Sorry. Three times All-Pro

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My annual award for 'player who I'm surprised isn't getting more interest'

Goes to Magglio Ordonez. If someone can pick him up on a one year deal for less than 10 mil, I’d imagine they’ll be happy.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

That surprises me a bit too. I guess the injury (ankle, right?) scares teams off.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s an awful lot like Pat Burrell — probably a little better, but also a couple years older and less healthy. Matsui’s another one. That player type just doesn’t seem to be in demand at the moment.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Except that

Maggs has never really had a pat-in-TB type bad season.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that’s the thing that makes him “probably better.”

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Swift

That was a classic, Grant. Excellent job. I thought the wenches were a nice touch, too.

"I can't very well tell my batters, 'Dont hit it to him.' Wherever they hit it, he's there anyway."
- NY Mets manager Gil Hodges on Willie Mays

by Lyle on Dec 10, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

Wenches are always a nice touch.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

William Wallace didn’t like it.

"I can't very well tell my batters, 'Dont hit it to him.' Wherever they hit it, he's there anyway."
- NY Mets manager Gil Hodges on Willie Mays

by Lyle on Dec 11, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought this post would be about the current Giants. And then I got sad thinking 8/200 and farewell to Timmy. :(

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

If he pitches his career averages between now and his free agency

And doesn’t get hurt, I don’t see any way that he doesn’t get 200 million.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe more, depending on what happens with the FA class of 2013.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He could get 250 depending on who’s out there/how desperate the Yankees are feeling.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s almost behooved to go for as much money as he can, even if by some chance he personally wouldn’t. For the greater profit of all.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the player’s union definitely leans on players to get big pay-days. Well, leans might be too strong a statement as I don’t have any details, but the union likes it, that’s for sure.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The socially optimal thing for him to do

Would be to maximize his lucre, then spend it all on R&D for a perpetual grilled cheese sandwich machine.

by Your mother on Dec 10, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

rec’d for magnificence of idea

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

A grill?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

A grill, a cow and a mill.

fuck off oxford comma

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

But can they be combined into a single mobile device?

Also, what’s a “cow and a mill”? AMBIGUITY THAT CAN ONLY BE RESCUED BY THE OXFORD COMMA!

by Your mother on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

If they can, it'll have to be Android.

No way Apple approves that.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

They would, but they’d build it without a USB port and have the cow/mill be sold as accessories.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

DESIGNER COW

COW BY MICHAEL KORS

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs more kerning.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

EAT MOR CHIKIN

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I just wanted infinite grilled cheese sandwiches. Why such a terrible end-user experience? Why all the bloatware?

by Your mother on Dec 10, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the market will support it!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

And if he could just get that winning percentage a tad higher

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Aaron Rowand 3 years 30 million

Barry Zito- 5 years 85 million

Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

Aaron Rowand now, or 5 WAR Rowand?

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

randy johnson 98-99

holy hell
if gil meche got 55 million
does that mean randy johnson is worth 550 million

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Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Only 59 comments on the older version of this. Your readership has truly grown, Grant. Just too bad they don’t discuss baseball.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

He has created a grand salon of rich discourse. He sits in the worn chair by the fire in his stocking cap , sipping his tenth warm brandy of the day, smiling wanly.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Also an Astros pitcher.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

What if I came here for cognac?

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ll have an eighteen-year Springbank and like it!

/Off my lawn, young knave.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

I’ve only had the 100 proof, which IIRC is a 10-year. Sherried casks, eh? That seems like it would be a pretty different malt.

by taliesin on Dec 10, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Springbank are the Sub Pop Records of the single-malt world. Almost every release of theirs is different — the prior 18-year to the current release had the reputation of being a de-facto 20-21yo, for instance. A fanboy, I would buy everything they released if I could afford it. But even if this 18yo isn’t quite up to the last, it’s probably better than any number out there with bigger names and reputations.

The new 100 you had is a 10/100, yes. The 100 you want is the old ’90s 12/100, when they were running low on 12-year stocks and decided to thin it out with old barrels that they had lying around the warehouse whose alcohol content had dipped below 50%. That stuff was goooooooooood. The new 10/100 I had was nice, but not in the same league.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s Scrooge? Who’s Bob Cratchit?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Readership growth
Your readership has truly grown, Grant. Just too bad they don’t discuss baseball.

Seriously. He could write a few paragraphs on the quality ballpark pigeon poop over the years and still draw 1000 posts.

"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris

by achiappanza on Dec 11, 2010 2:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Korea!
Ryan Garko has signed to play in Korea, according to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer (on Twitter). The six-year MLB veteran hit free agency two months ago after a disappointing 2010 season.

MLBTR

"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat

by deuce deuce on Dec 10, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Korea traded Shin Soo Choo for Ryan Garko. Got ripped off imo.

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

So Garko’s going to serve in the Korean army?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

i laughed in an out-loud fashion

Eugenio Velez: Really fast... at getting picked off. SICK BURN!!

by jasomack on Dec 10, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

same.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Dec 11, 2010 2:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I look forward to next year’s epic Garko vs. :(owski battles.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

MUCH RATHER RE-SIGN GARKO THEN TAKE A FLYER ON AUBREY HUFF

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

What's even more fun is to predict the salaries in 2040

Derek Jeter Jr – .300/30 HR/120 RBI – 15 years/ $550.
Took a hometown discount to stay with the Yankees and continue to play with his dad.

by djfivenine on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

I feel like there has to be some kind asymptotic point where salaries can’t get higher relative to whatever the worth of dollar is at the time. It’s frightening that we haven’t found it, but it must be there somewhere.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

that is assuming the value of dollar stays constant overtime. Bernanke is working overtime to make sure this never happens.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

UNDO THE NIXON SHOCK

bring back gold

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I just re-read what you wrote. You did mention the “whatever the worth of dollars is at the time.”

This makes for an interesting exercise. What if we convert player salaries from the last 50 years to ounces of Gold, and compare it against each other?

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

In theory, but it’s not actually happening. That’s what’s so weird about the salary explosion this year: Inflation is at its lowest rate in seventy years.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

But Gold is at all time high. Relative to other commodities (Gold, Services rendered by players, Chinese Tea Leaf, Tiger Penis…), I’m not sure player salary really is higher this year vs, say, 2008 when CC and Teixeira signed.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor Gold.

Wasting its life.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all about the caterpillar fungus, dude.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s an interesting point, considering that most of these teams are being run by zillionaires who could choose to spend their money on a lot of other stuff instead. But team revenues are still coming in mostly in dollars, and it’s really hard for me to see revenues going up as much as salaries are.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

every commodity is almost always at an all time high.

Mark DeRosa, still existing.

by oldjacket on Dec 10, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THE SEASON

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You had me at tiger penis.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Dec 10, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Inflation may b low now, but...

Maybe these contracts are being negotiated with the expectation of a spike?

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ve gotta be. Seems unlikely to me, though.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to me. The deficits are too huge, and interest rates can’t stay this low forever.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Empirics: Japan has more debt/lower interest rates than us. They have a deflationary economy.

by seaborn on Dec 10, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Japan is also in the midst of depopulating.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It is.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Having fewer people on a densely populated island that’s busy hunting bluefin to extinction doesn’t strike me as such a tragedy.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Overpopulation isn’t limited to Japan…

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to start somewhere.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

we’re gonna have to start terra-forming new planets

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

FTFY

we’re gonna have to start plundering terra-forming new planets

FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try FAQ or FAQII and now... FAQIII

by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s just thaw out Greenland and Antarctica.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

that plan is already undwerway

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe a little, until the end of the current interglacial returns us to the Quaternary norm.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

nom nom nom

PAX is good for you!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I always see calls for lower population, but very few volunteers.

Yeah, the bluefin situation needs to be fixed, but that doesn’t mean we need fewer people. Declining populations are precursors of declining civilizations. One good thing the U.S. has going for it is modest population growth. Most of the rest of the industrialized world should be so lucky.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Despite the snark above I am not calling for it, though it will have some beneficial effects, but when it starts happening naturally in rich countries, I see it as a fair choice people are making. Who are we to tell the Japanese that Japan can’t have fewer people?

The ‘bluefin situation’ is over. We’ve already failed. Extinction is assured, probably in the next few years. Expect to see the same thing happen to more important fisheries over the next century or so. The only edible fish left in a generation or so are going to be the ones in territorial waters, where someone with a navy has a vested interedt in keeping it going.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No one is telling the Japanese anything, you and I are just reaching different conclusions about their depopulation. Saying “the bluefin situation is over” strikes me as premature. Weren’t a lot of the whales supposed to be extinct by now?

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Exagerration for effect, maybe. Premature, no. The ivory-billed woodpecker isn’t quite extinct, but it’s not like you can count on making a mean out of them.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Internation whaling agreements and listing the whales under laws like the United States Endangered Species Act have done a tremendous amount of good for whale species. Also, drilling for oil instead of harpooning for it.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

But mainly the drilling.

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Undoubtedly given the appetites of Americans and the mass quantities of meat that one can get from a single whale, I can imagine that without federal protection there would be whaling for food. While the general appetite of Americans to eat charismatic animals isn’t high, it could be enough to trigger a collapse of populations.

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Ask me about my... Machine.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s imaginable, sure, but there has been no discernible US demand for whale meat, so it’s one of those counterfactuals I can’t get exercised enough to discuss. Tuna remains my object lesson, but fisheries where there is actual demand are pretty universally collapsing except where they are contained within territorial waters.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, just about every whale that resides in US waters has been listed in the ESA since the 70’s so that might have something to do with the demand. I don’t know what the demand was like before then, but I believe that there were moratoriums in place before the 70’s. Recall that the bison was nearly wiped out (really fucking close), and now that is an animal bred for meat – this is just a case of an animal that was on the brink of extinction that people did develop a taste for.

By the way, I applaud your concern for bluefin tuna – this is an important issue. Above I was merely stating that conservation efforts are what led healthier (not recovery yet) whale populations, not alarmist environmentalists being wrong about the state of whale populations and killing having gone unchecked.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I always see calls for lower population, but very few volunteers.

The people of Japan seem to be volunteering.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 10, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I volunteered by not polluting the world with offspring!

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I volunteered by murdering a bunch of people

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Good job!

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in this line.

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/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

are you suggesting mass seppuku?

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Chopped the shit out of me...

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Bad vocative comma!

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes you have to have a colon!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

O_o

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Next time you go to an Asian hot pot …

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Try the pho?

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my philosophy on life.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Although tk would probably disagree.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

“No, that sounds like your philosophy”
-tk

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 10, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

So is that my punishment for bad grammar?

or the reward?

http://sportsandgrits.blogspot.com/

by Mr. Sanchez on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s true.
I knew a guy who didn’t have a colon.
Analogies and ratios were entirely beyond his ken.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Eri Yoshida, 2012

3 years, $21 million from Epstein (to replace Wakefield). Sadly, with the DH, they’d miss out on her bat.

by Your mother on Dec 10, 2010 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

wooooooo
go outlaws!

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Dilemma

Episode two is now ballooning up to over twenty minutes. I have about ten minutes done and I am not halfway there yet. The upload also might be too big. Should I

1. Add an episode three And split up to two 12 min clips

2. Cut stuff and make one 15 min clip

3. Make one big clip and finish at the end of the month and pay for vimeo premium?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

PAY!

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably split it up into two

What size makes it/them nearer to episode one in length?

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I can upload 500 Megs a week, Episode 1 was ~280 meg @ 12 minutes.

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Then do two episodes

12 minute segments are also saleable or useable in a semi-pro context that has a standard 24 or 26 minute TV time format.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

So, looks like the Orioles got J.J. Hardy for basically nothing. Meh.

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

WELCOME TO YESTERDAY'S NEWS

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I WAS FINISHING MY GRADING YESTERDAY DAMMIT

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

NO EXCUSES BLOG LIKE A CHAMPION

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

thought it was DRINK

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

NO DRINKS BLOG LIKE A CHAMPION?

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I can do both, i'm better than everyone

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

ENJOY YOUR MIGUEL TEJADA

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

MIGUEL TEQUILA

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

TRUE AFICIONADOS DRINK IT NEAT

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Also one week earlier then when they learn if a better and cheaper alternative is available,

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha!

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOM

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

RELATED TO TILA TEQUILA?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU KNOW SOMETHING I DONT?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I think we both know she's kinda trashy.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i think she might get around

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

She's probably had sex before.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

ehhh... that might be debatable

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

/Shawne Merriman

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds

I’ve often wondered what Barry would have received in arbitration had we not resigned him to that big contract at the end of the 90’s? One year for $50 million? A partial ownership stake in the Giants? Naming rights for the stadium?

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 10, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Both bridges into the city as well as a lifetime of free pizza from Delfina Pizzeria.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Droit de seigneur!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

How much would would a wouldchuck chuck?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

And just because he is being brought up in this thread and his production.

I am just gonna leave this right here:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bondsba01.shtml

I sometimes lose track of time when looking at this so view at your own risk.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

I like that 9 year run of 100 games played and OPS over 1.000

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by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit, Ted Williams OPS’d 1.000+ for every year of his career but one.

Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I am amazed every time I visit Ted Williams' page

And just stare at 1940 – 1049

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That predates the corner stone ceremony of Notre Dame de Paris

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Also the corner stone ceremony of Eugenio Velez de Giants!

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There are reasons for that.

I hear Edward the Confessor wasn’t keen on breaking pitches. Considered them dishonest.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Stephen!
Matilda!
Stephen!
Matilda!

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Edward the Confessor always tipped his pitches.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 10, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He was generous in that way… oh, pitches. Nevermind.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

Williams hit better over his career than DiMaggio did over his hitting streak.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

How the fuck was he only MVP twice?

"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"

by CB30 on Dec 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BBWAA 1940
Voti                                               Batt                                             Pitc

Rank Tm Vote Pts 1st Place Share WAR G AB R H HR RBI SB BB BA OBP SLG OPS W L ERA WHIP G GS SV IP H HR BB SO
1 Hank Greenberg DET 292.0 16.0 87% 6.4 148 573 129 195 41 150 6 93 .340 .433 .670 1.103
2 Bob Feller CLE 222.0 6.0 66% 9.4 43 115 7 18 2 12 0 8 .157 .211 .270 .481 27 11 2.61 1.133 43 37 4 320.1 245 13 118 261
3 Joe DiMaggio NYY 151.0 0.0 45% 7.3 132 508 93 179 31 133 1 61 .352 .425 .626 1.051
4 Bobo Newsom DET 120.0 1.0 36% 7.1 36 107 9 23 0 16 0 1 .215 .222 .262 .484 21 5 2.83 1.269 36 34 0 264.0 235 19 100 164
5 Lou Boudreau CLE 119.0 1.0 35% 5.4 155 627 97 185 9 101 6 73 .295 .370 .443 .814
6 Jimmie Foxx BOS 110.0 0.0 33% 4.6 144 515 106 153 36 119 4 101 .297 .412 .581 .993
7 Schoolboy Rowe DET 62.0 0.0 18% 5.4 27 67 7 18 1 18 1 5 .269 .319 .433 .752 16 3 3.46 1.260 27 23 0 169.0 170 15 43 61
8 Rudy York DET 61.0 0.0 18% 4.4 155 588 105 186 33 134 3 89 .316 .410 .583 .993
9 Rip Radcliff SLB 55.0 0.0 16% 2.8 150 584 83 200 7 81 6 47 .342 .392 .466 .858
10 Luke Appling CHW 54.0 0.0 16% 5.6 150 566 96 197 0 79 3 69 .348 .420 .442 .862
11 Roy Weatherly CLE 34.0 0.0 10% 2.1 135 578 90 175 12 59 9 27 .303 .335 .464 .799
12 Dick Bartell DET 26.0 0.0 8% -0.8 139 528 76 123 7 53 12 76 .233 .335 .330 .665
13 Joe Kuhel CHW 18.0 0.0 5% 3.5 155 603 111 169 27 94 12 87 .280 .374 .488 .861
14 Sid Hudson WSH 16.0 0.0 5% 1.4 38 93 8 22 0 10 0 1 .237 .245 .280 .524 17 16 4.57 1.401 38 31 1 252.0 272 20 81 96
14 Ted Williams BOS 16.0 0.0 5% 6.0 144 561 134 193 23 113 4 96 .344 .442 .594 1.036 0 0 4.50 1.500 1 0 0 2.0 3 0 0 1
16 Barney McCosky DET 11.0 0.0 3% 4.0 143 589 123 200 4 57 13 67 .340 .408 .491 .899
17 Tiny Bonham NYY 8.0 0.0 2% 3.4 12 37 3 7 0 2 0 2 .189 .231 .216 .447 9 3 1.90 0.966 12 12 0 99.1 83 4 13 37
18 Wally Judnich SLB 6.0 0.0 2% 3.1 137 519 97 157 24 89 8 54 .303 .368 .520 .888
19 Johnny Babich PHA 5.0 0.0 1% 3.7 31 86 4 10 0 1 0 2 .116 .146 .128 .274 14 13 3.73 1.317 31 30 0 229.1 222 16 80 94
20 Frankie Hayes PHA 4.0 0.0 1% 3.4 136 465 73 143 16 70 9 61 .308 .389 .477 .866
20 Ray Mack CLE 4.0 0.0 1% 2.4 146 530 60 150 12 69 4 51 .283 .346 .409 .755
20 Mike Tresh CHW 4.0 0.0 1% 0.5 135 480 62 135 1 64 3 49 .281 .349 .340 .689
23 Charlie Gehringer DET 3.0 0.0 1% 3.4 139 515 108 161 10 81 10 101 .313 .428 .447 .875
23 Joe Gordon NYY 3.0 0.0 1% 5.8 155 616 112 173 30 103 18 52 .281 .340 .511 .851
23 Bob Kennedy CHW 3.0 0.0 1% -1.2 154 606 74 153 3 52 3 42 .252 .301 .315 .616
23 Cecil Travis WSH 3.0 0.0 1% 2.6 136 528 60 170 2 76 0 48 .322 .381 .445 .826
27 Rollie Hemsley CLE 2.0 0.0 1% 0.2 119 416 46 111 4 42 1 22 .267 .304 .368 .671
27 Ted Lyons CHW 2.0 0.0 1% 3.5 22 75 4 18 0 7 0 2 .240 .260 .293 .553 12 8 3.24 1.208 22 22 0 186.1 188 17 37 72
29 Elden Auker SLB 1.0 0.0 0% 5.4 38 89 11 19 1 10 0 9 .213 .286 .292 .578 16 11 3.96 1.498 38 35 0 263.2 299 17 96 78
29 Lou Finney BOS 1.0 0.0 0% 1.3 130 534 73 171 5 73 5 33 .320 .360 .463 .822

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/10/2010.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Love that a player a full win below replacement got three votes.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

you can’t really blame them for giving MVP to a guy who hit .340 with 41 HRs and 150 RBI.

though yeah, don’t know how WIlliams ended up 14th.

by kingofthacove on Dec 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think there was a widespread perception at the time that Fenway Park artificially inflated offensive numbers (which it did and still does, but it wasn’t exactly Coors Field). Williams’ reputation as an indifferent fielder (probably deserved) also didn’t help matters in an era when great defense and doing the “little things” was romanticized.

That still doesn’t explain 14th place here, though.

by sycasey on Dec 10, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

And 1941
Voti                                             Batt

Rank Tm Vote Pts 1st Place Share WAR G AB R H HR RBI BB BA OBP SLG OPS
1 Joe DiMaggio NYY 291.0 15.0 87% 9.4 139 541 122 193 30 125 76 .357 .440 .643 1.083
2 Ted Williams BOS 254.0 8.0 76% 11.3 143 456 135 185 37 120 147 .406 .553 .735 1.287

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/10/2010.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This always puzzled me

I think the hitting streak was just too sexy for voters to pass up on.

by D-T on Dec 10, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Boston voters en block completely left him off their top 10. Spite and malice.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!

by Roger on Dec 10, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he means Boston

Williams wasn’t that popular in his time, and was constantly criticized for not being clutch (unlike DiMaggio). Similar to Rodriguez now.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Extremely patient power hitters are often doomed to be considered unclutch, because they don’t drive in quite as many runs as you’d expect from their SLG (since they don’t put the ball in play as often). Williams and Bonds are the best examples.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That and the RBI’s.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Barry Bonds led the league in walks 12 times....

Led the league in scoring once.

That single season walk record will never be broken. Babe Ruth has the second most, at 170…. 62 fewer than Bonds’ total. Aaron Rowand, for example, has never walked 62 times in a season.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Man who on bases .609. Seriously.

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/onbase_perc_season.shtml

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Top 15 single season OBP’s

Barry Bonds (4, top 2)
Ted Williams (2)
John McGraw (1)
Babe Ruth (5)
Billy Hamilton(1)
Mickey Mantle(1)
Rogers Hornsby(1)

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

who new Jason Giambi

has the two highest single-season OBPs of any active player. Now HE clogged the bases

by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Dec 10, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell me about this new Jason Giambi

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

obviously he clogged the bases

yours truly,

Joe Morgan

Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.

by bumgarner on Dec 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe I saw that happen.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear God, 2004

.362/.609/.812 /1.422

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

HE SLUGGED .812!

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

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by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i think the OBP is more impressive

he had successful at bats over 60% of the time. that is beyond ridiculous. the Giants didn’t have a single starter above .400 this year

Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.

by bumgarner on Dec 10, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

but everyone knew about the OBP from that year. The fact that he out-slugged what most good players OPS in an average year is just amazing to me.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It's like...porno.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

“They put up a skinny one for Neifi.” —JT Snow

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure they're ridiculously impressive.

I mean….WOW! Those numbers are…gah, I don’t even know what to say.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

There is always this

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dimagjo01.shtml

In 1941, Joe DiMaggio has 621 plate appearances and struck out 13 times. He grounded into 6 double plays all year and slugged .643.

Think about that for a second. 13 strike outs, 6 double plays. Pablo Sandoval calls that “Last week.”

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

slugged .643

Bonds calls that an “off year.”

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Howard

calls that “a doubleheader.”

San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
Buster Posey: 100% ballplayer, 0% bullshit

by free f.p. #14 on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy thing is, Babe Ruth had two, TWO!, years were he slugged better than that (0.847 and 0.846) and BLB had a better slg% one year (0.863!)

Overplayed memes:
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Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

dfa Bonds!

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Over 22 seasons 181 OPS+, 199 as a Giant

/head splodes

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at that makes my heart explode

An OPS+ of 169 at age 42, for Christ’s sake. Buster Posey’s was 129 in 2010.

by Your mother on Dec 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You would think he could find work the next year with stats like that

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Black ball'd

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously collusion isn’t something that should be investigated what with all these perjury cases to prosecute.

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Have I mentioned

That I miss Barry Lamar Bonds?

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure the rest of the league doesnt tho...

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The rest of the league sucks!

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU TELL EM!!!!!! i just told that to my roommate who's a reds fan

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

REDS SUCK!

(Except maybe, just maybe, Joey Votto.)

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

i got man crush on Votto, dude's a beast

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

POKEMONZ GOD

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

?

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT THATS AWESOME

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He is also 6'7", 270 lbs!

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He'd be a damn good tight end

or possibly a defensive end

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I concede.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

My kid has one of those.

All I know is he has like 180 HP or something like that.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT THEY HAVE CHAPMAN!!!

CHAPMAN>>>>>>>>BUMGARNER!!! apparently

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Bumgarner: Archnemesis to Chapman

but with greater superpowers including, but not limited to mind bullets

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t want to know what a mind bullet is

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s telekenisis, Pika.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

OH! damn! /mind blown

by the way, i’ll be driving through Fresno on my drive back from Ohio it looks like

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Tight

It’s actually been pretty nice through here.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually love Fresno in the fall and winter… Gonna stop at Hungry Bear and Fig Garden. Apparently my dad wanted me to drive through route 66 instead of doing I-80 from Cleveland to San Francisco because of weather

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not gonna stop in and visit your aunt and uncle?

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I might do that… i’m gonna drive straight from Vegas to Aptos i believe. So i might have time, then the next day dad wants to go up to Chico… then on Sunday back down to Aptos… i just need to get my own apartment or something, cuz this is just crazy

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That is some serious driving.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, used to it

but kinda wanted to check out christmas tree lane again

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

the one in Ceres?

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Fresno

the one on Van Ness

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, christmas tree lane. is there anywhere you can’t assimilate?

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

the one on...

oh shit, what’s it called… Huntington Blvd

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

Seriously inferior.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Youngnastyman

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I foresee terrible things happening to Chapman's arm

Not just because of Dusty, but because it’s not natural to throw a ball that hard.

Proud Adoptive Parent of no one, cause my son left me.

I still think Obi-wan wanted them to hook up & raise some genetic freaks with midichlorians firing out of their ass. - ResDog

THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES

by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m pretty sure everyone thinks terrible things will happen to the kids arm

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Counterpoint:

I’m sure it’s not natural to throw anything at velocities greater than 40 or 50 mph. If so, there’d be a segment of the population born with mitt-like appendages.

full disclosure: my own “natural” “ability” prevents me from throwing anything faster than “40” or “50” mph.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Polar Opposite -- Ichiro Suzuki

It’s amazing that these two players could not be more different than each other. In the spectrum of Baseball Hitting Stars :

Barry Bonds -————————————————Ken Griffey Jr.————————————————————Ichiro Suzuki

Yet, Barry Bonds and Ichiro Suzuki are my two favorite position players of all time.

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Random note

Whenever people ask me why SF fans are so defensive about Barry, I usually give them the whole unfairly-attacked-for-steroids thing, but there’s always been one thing that bugged the crap out of me even more than that.

Even before the steroid controversy, Bonds just never got credit. If you asked people in the 90’s who was the best OF in the majors, all you heard about was fucking Griffey. Look, Griffey was good. But Bonds was so much better.

From Bonds’ wikipedia:

Bill James wrote of Bonds, “Certainly the most unappreciated superstar of my lifetime… Griffey has always been more popular, but Bonds has been a far, far greater player.” In 1999, James rated Bonds as the 16th best player of all time. “When people begin to take in all of his accomplishments”, James predicted, “Bonds may well be rated among the five greatest players in the history of the game.”

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Courtesy of the new Fangraphs leaderboards

Who was the best of the nineties?

Interesting for much more than just the Bonds v. Griffey question.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Edgar Martinez sustained a .344 BABIP over 5500 PA’s? holy shit

I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.

by atxgiantsfan on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Any day now…

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He was a line drive machine.

by nataku on Dec 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I filtered it for min 500 PA over the decade

WAR
Bonds 82.3
Griffey 70
Bagwell 58.3

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re sorting for WAR, there’s not much need to filter by plate appearances. Unless someone topped 82 WAR in less than 500 PA.

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, well your right I filtered by 500 PA at first to check wOBA

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, okay. Well, that would make perfect sense, then.

Best wOBA of the nineties: Guillermo Mota! 1.960!

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Interestingly

Bonds has only a .007 lead on Frank the Tank for wOBA in teh 90’s. If any DH should make the hall of fame it should be Frank Thomas.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Check 2000-2009. Despite having missed 2005 almost completely, and not having played since 2007, Bonds is still third in WAR for that decade (behind Alex Rodriguez and Albert Pujols).

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 11, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

Well said.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Green to that.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

One small touch up
his godfather is the greatest player in the teams sports’ history,

other than that, perfect.

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by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Stupid errant comma. Won't stay in it's place.

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by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

errant commas: the gateway drug to poor grammar since, like, 1984, or, perhaps, 1985.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I got so pissed once listening to Baseball tday podcast

hearing Seth Everett and Eric Karabell wondering aloud why we cheer him so much.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I will say

I think Ted Williams was a better hitter. Ruth maybe. But Bonds is top 5.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

As a Giant fan I reserve the right

to call Bonds “possibly the greatest hitter ever” because arguments can be made for him and 2 or 3 others depending on how you slice it.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are the top three. No one else is close.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just for example

Ted Williams career wRC+: 196
Barry Bonds career wRC+: 177

And Williams lost three of his prime years to go fight in WW2

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

And two more to Korea.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn Korea

First they took Ted Williams, now, Ryan Garko.

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

/shakes fist at Korea

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

 When I’m talking “greatest hitter ever,” I don’t much care about the man’s career — I care about how good he was when he was at his best. Of course, there’s no clear-cut way to figure out how long a peak needs to be to be real. But for that four-year stretch from 2001 to 2004, Barry’s wRC+ was around 235. Ruth was near that level in the early 1920s and Williams was near it in the early 1940s, but they never surpassed it for long. And consider that they played in smaller leagues, segregated leagues, in which the overall level of athleticism was much lower than it is today.

Bonds 2001-04 was better than any hitter has ever been.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Smaller leagues would improve the overall level of competition no?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 11, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Evan is referring to the smaller talent pool.

Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

There were also way fewer people, just in general. It’s a major difference.

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand all that I just thought it was strange to mention the size of the league.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 11, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't buy this argument

Since Ted Williams had 3 prime seasons taken by serving in WW2, 2 semi-prime seasons taken by service in Korea, and STILL had a higher career wRC+ than Bonds.

And, hell, Ruth had a 248 wRC+ in 1920 – a mark Bonds never matched.

Williams was better than Bonds over the course of his career and might well have had a better peak if not for extenuating circumstances. Ruth had a better peak than Bonds.

I feel comfortable saying they were both better hitters.

But that’s some heady company, man.

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by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoops

Bonds did match Ruth’s peak, I was wrong there.

But Bonds also has a career wRC+ greater than either Williams or Bonds.

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by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The greatest hitter ever is Ty Cobb

Bonds is third behind Ted Williams. Ruth is fourth.

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by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds and Cobb have identical wRC+

And Bond’s wOBA is higher.

And they’re both well below Williams. Cobb doesn’t crack my top three.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he cracker it?

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

ISWYDT

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

lol racism lol

The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS

by zuma420 on Dec 10, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Cobb’s wOBA is well inflated because we give him credit for all the SB’s, but don’t know how many times he was caught.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

How do they handle that? They can’t just assume he was never caught, can they?

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well,

can they?

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, green to that.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Wreckage

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Seconded

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Thirdsies!

"Pablo Sandoval, coming around third like a runaway beer truck." - Kruk

by G Men on Dec 10, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

His godfather is Buster Posey?

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Very nice.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe a lot of it had to do with his public persona. Griffey was the fun loving, backwards hat wearing kid with a permanent smile on his face, signing autographs and kissing babies. Bonds was the guy in the batting cage all day, using babies for soft toss. That’s what winners do.

I think Griffey was supremely more talented on natural, raw talent alone. But I feel like Bonds worked harder than anyone else and I think that was part of the appeal of Bonds, for me anyway. I’m a big fan of the “cold-hearted machine” mentality.

by JSing on Dec 11, 2010 11:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

VIA Buster Olney
Heard this: The Yankees are now taking an aggressive approach in the Russell Martin conversations. It’s Boston vs. NYY, plus others.

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

HOT PURSUIT FOR SIRM!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL.

Buster Posey.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

who's that?

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Um, why are they all hyperventilating over him? I realize BOS is desperate but sheesh.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I’ll keep him in my pokemonz

Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Not Carlos Santana.

Everytime I see Martin. aside from SIRM popping into my head, he will always remind me the Dodgers do not have Carlos Santana.

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by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Carlos Santana

the best thing that has happened to Cleveland

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Shin-Soo Choo U

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

WHO???

oh you mean the gentleman that helped my fantasy team out last year? yea… but Santana has a better name

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s debatable.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL AZNS!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He is no Bernie Kozar

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He's no Jim Brown or Manny Ramirez

or no LeBron James

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

SIRM is going to get a ton of money just because the two teams want to outbid each other.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh

He’ll also get a ton of money because he’s a catcher with a .365 OBP

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

More than he normally would*

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Bernie Kozar

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t watch Real Housewives, but I bet it’s a lot like watching this.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure you don’t…

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Why? because I’m gay?

I don’t watch reality television. I barely watch television unless it comes in DVD form.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he had that in mind….

I must confessed I watched a couple of Episodes of Real Housewives. Then I decided it’s just easier to download porn.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Porn is so much more ennobling than reality television. I mean that sincerely.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Simply because you began with ‘I don’t watch this, but…’

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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

AND because he's gay.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Does this mean my wife is gay? Because she will sometimes watch that crap.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Better that than....

I can’t think of anything.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it

The Dodgers.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

 “No, honey, the conference just happens to be in a dingy bar on Valencia half-full of scruffy women and half-full of swimsuit models. Why do you ask?”

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think the AL East even cares about the quality of the free agent in question anymore.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously

this is turning into a suck off.

Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.

by Giant Voodoo on Dec 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I appreciate a precise metaphor, Giant Voodoo, if that is your name.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Aggressive approach?

Like, “Sign with us or we break your thumbs”?

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 10, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Barry could get a deal today

If he announced he was in shape and wanted to play. I think most of the steroid stuff has blow over. I could see a team like the A’s taking a flier on him, maybe he’d get 1 year, 5 million maybe?

Sheffield says he wants to try to come back, and he was never as good as Barry.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

I am sure he could hit .275/400/.450

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not that high

But I don’t think that .275/.375/.450 would be out of the question. And that’d be damn good compared to a lot of the guys being run out there as DHs in the AL.

The Rays could use him. The Mariners could too, if they want to drop Cust. A’s and Rangers other possibilities.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't thinkhe could get that kind of separation in his BA and OBP

If anything I would suggest he might hit for a lower BA and similar OBP siomethign like .260/.400

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

I just don’t think he’ll be able to get as many hits and his power will certainly go down, but he wouldn’t be anything less than above average.

by Every6thDay on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

As I side note

I really really want this to happen. Barry deserves a shot to get to 3,000 hits.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

So much this. I know it won’t happen and I absolutely hate it.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It'd probably be worth it to a team just for the intimidation factor...

Yes, pitchers will know he won’t be as good as he was…but I think they’d still be mighty worried.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned Colletti says...

“Hey, didn’t you used to play in San Francisco? Boys, draw up a contract for this man!”

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be worth it to see Bonds on the Dodgers just to see the L.A. fans’ heads explode.

by sycasey on Dec 10, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

NO!

While it’d be fun to make their heads explode…I never want to see Bonds in blue.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the front page of B-R. It shows last years standings with estimated payrolls. The AL East is hilarious.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

The Padres really only had a payroll of 4.3 million right now?

I guess that makes sense with no AGon

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by scout6 on Dec 10, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't believe I was ever so young!
Re: Title
To be fair, Hoover was a terrible president.
I’ve grown up a lot since before dinner, when we last talked.

by groug on Dec 13, 2006 12:01 AM PST up reply actions

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, that “being fair” crap is for losers.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hoover wasn’t historically terrible, but he also wasn’t very good.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He was no Chester Arthur.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 10, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

to relive a bit of the thread he was referring to, Hoover gets a bit of bum rap. Listening to Mellon too much was a mistake, but a mistake most of his contemporaries would have also made.

Mark DeRosa, still existing.

by oldjacket on Dec 10, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to bolster my bipartisan credentials

By telling my friends that my absolute favorite president was a Democrat

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Ma Ma, Where’s my Pa?

Mark DeRosa, still existing.

by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2010 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I have been impressed with President Harding lately. I mean, that was a very, very, very efficient administration. I’d like to find an article that compares their kleptocracy in inflation-adjusted dollars, because that was some fine work.

When the Attorney General is taking bribes from rum-runners, there may be a problem with the administration.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh Agent Ned

What’s it say when three of the smarter organizations are competing to sign the guy you just gave away for nothing..

  1. Agent Matt Colleran tells Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com that his client is deciding between the three AL East teams: the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

I’m gonna laugh when its at a higer annual value than he was projected to get in Arb.

Also, Bos and NYY aren’t two of smarter orgs, they are just orgs who can observe risks/failures.

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Dec 10, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's an argument the Yankees

Don’t really see how you can say Boston isn’t a smart organization.

What big contract disaster have the really had in the Epstein regime?

Lugo is the only one that comes to mind. Maybe Beckett and Lackey. But you can’t judge those yet.

Also pedroia, bard, youkilis, ellsbury, lester, buchholz. Pretty good homegrown talent. (I know youkilis was drafted by the A’s but he was not in the majors when they acquired him)

Also, they’ve used those prospects to make trades for guys like Gonzalez and V-Mart.

You still have to use money well (See: The Mets)

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Matsuzaka

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Well the posting fee was ridiculous

But the contract itself was not that awful. But I see your point.

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Out of the top 10 payrolls in the MLB, I think the Red Sox has the least amount of “horrible contracts”

by djfivenine on Dec 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Lowell

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

it wa 3 years 37.5 milion

He was a 3 WAR player in the first year, dropped to 1.1 in 2009. and then a terrible2010 cuz he was hurt…

I’d call that meh

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

There's always BIll Hall too!

Lowell contract was predictably bad. He was the Captain, they overpaid to keep him around.

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh

They didn’t sign Hall to that contract.

They acquired for the corpse of Casey Kotchman

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, but they picked up that contract $$ iirc.

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't remember that

But either way it was not very much and I don’t ever consider one year of a guy a “contract disaster”

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Cashman has an easy job – to choose the best player on the FA market and give him a ton of money – but he’s still done it pretty well. He should get some credit for targeting players like Sabathia, ARod, and Lee, while avoiding giving huge contracts to Zito/Soriano types.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Lee is a trap

I wouldn’t give him 6 years, much less 7.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

By way of explanations

It’s one thing to give 7 years to a pitcher without significant injury history, IE Zito or Sabathia, but it’s another who’s had injury issues as recently as this season. Lee’s always had back problems, and they won’t go away with a big contract.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

I wouldn’t give any pitcher 7 years to pitch for the Giants. The Yankees are different, though – if Lee pitches like he can for 3 years, then falls apart, the signing is a success.

That’s why it’s so hard to evaluate Cashman – he just doesn’t have the same job as most GM’s.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

True

But still, Lee’s injury history scares the crap out of me. Injuries with any pitcher are a problem, but why assume so much risk?

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a little confused by it too. I think Cashman is pretty smart, but the Yankees all in on Lee seems like such a knee jerk reaction. They have to know they could probably spend the money better, and certainly much more safely.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Because they need (want) pitching, and he’s by faaaar the best pitcher available any time soon.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I would too

The Yankees wouldn’t, though, because when money isn’t really an issue, there’s not much reason to give up talent (unless you get a steal, like the Swisher trade).

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

They were willing to give up Montero for Lee

They could get a package around him, I’m sure.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

That one was a big mistake on their part, imo. They got lucky with Seattle preferring Smoak.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I have Yankees fan friends that panicked when that was proposed...

On the other hand, do the Royals want Montero? This is a genuine question, because I don’t know enough about the Yankees farm system or the Royals themselves to know.

Also, Montero can hit, but I’ve heard he’s a really not very good defensively

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

His bat would probably play anywhere

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 10, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

But would his glove. The Royals are pretty set at first with Butler and Moustakas. I can’t remember if Hosmer is a 1st or 3rd baseman.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He wouldn’t be ideal, but I feel like if you have the opportunity to pick up a guy with a bat like Montero’s, you should find a way to make it work

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 10, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The Royals are loaded with 1B/DH prospects. They probably have less use for Montero than any other team in baseball — except maybe the Yankees.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

And a bad one.

Or at least, that’s what I’ve heard.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

So bad, people usually just call him a “catcher” — with audible scare quotes.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

*shrug*

I’m just saying…

And its not like Posada is particularly great, so the Yankees were fine keeping Montero catching. I’m not sure other teams would want him catching or would prefer to move him to 1B/DH. I haven’t seen the kid play myself, so I can’t say much else.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

It’s time we start trading with the Royals. We should try to make a trade for anyone there who could be of any value.

One day Moore will be fired, and I’d hate to see that happen before we rip him off. Feels like we’re the only team he hasn’t helped.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't like the Cabrera and Franceour signings?!

But seriously we should be spending all our time trying to figure out how to fleece the few remaining terrible GMs

Moore, Ed Wade, Agent Ned, Amaro, Hendry, Kenny Williams

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

When it comes to evaluating talent at the MLB level, I don’t think anyone is even close to being as bad as Moore. He’s just unbelievable.

by Cookyman on Dec 10, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

seconded

I want to see a long succession of Giants-Royals trades while he’s there.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know much about the Yankees farm system...

…but do they have the pieces to trade for Greinke? The only big name I know of is Montero, and the Royals aren’t looking for a catcher.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Grienke doesn’t want to go to New York

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Debatable at this point.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that I think Ned knows what he's doing but

I’d like to point out that there were a lot of people saying something similar when the Red Sox signed Frandsen. Being sought after by the Red Sox and Yankees doesn’t automatically make a player good.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah but .365 career OBP at Catcher does though.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a difference between taking a flyer on a player

And actively seeking them out and competing for his services.

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

But it was a gut-wrenching decision to let SIRM go...

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I got massively chopped...

So basically what I got from Z’ing through this is…

We miss Barry Bonds.

Anything else?

And I really, really do miss Barry.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

I miss Barry Bonds like Boise State kickers miss field goals.

by djfivenine on Dec 10, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Barry Bonds like Florida State kickers miss wide right.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Barry --

Hugs and kisses,
You’s the one I misses.

by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to bring Barry back

get that lovable sumbitch a ring

you ever been on a real shrimpin' boat?

no, but i've been on a real big boat

by Larry Bamar on Dec 10, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If he came back as a hitting coach...

He could get a ring that way right?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The second-funniest thing about that 2006 post (after the Willie Mays bit) is this: Grant sez that the crazy contracts being given out at the time are “more amusing than anything, but only because the Giants are on the sidelines.”

Guess what happened three weeks later.

by Evan on Dec 10, 2010 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

The baseball gods have singled Grant out for their special love.

someone with more free time than sense.

Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.

Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.

by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

grant's cup spilleth over with their special love

surely still running down his leg.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It would’ve been entertaining if Sabes had signed Meche first. Outrage! And then, “But we could’ve signed Zito. Those poor Mets fans.”

I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Dec 10, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't get over how awesome this is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwhjHRVRZg

wow.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

I watched it, but I don’t have to believe it.

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

wait

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfWCYKdL6pQ

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

i might be stupid

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

now you know my nickname...

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not Guts?

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

nah, i dont got any guts

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Griffith FTW

Guts is a loser

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 10, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, funny story, went to the Cincy Miami Ohio game drunk, pissed off

a bunch of Cincy fans IN CINCY

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

NICE

Sounds like the time I was at a dodgers-giants game in LA.

I had had a few beers, and hence forgot where I was. I stood up after Brian Wilson got the save, and screamed FUCK YES. turned to my friend and screamed ZITO JUST BEAT BILLINGSLEY YOU NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I looked up and almost pissed my pants. I got out of there quick

by panda revival on Dec 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure you would have been safe

f it was the ninth inning, there were, what, a dozen people in the stadium?

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Good job dude, forgetting where you are is not a good idea… and never act like that unless youre with a good amount of friends… I was with like 3 other guys, one of em had a devil mask on, the other some dumb mask… fact is, i didn’t go into the game, neither did another friend, so we watched Miami Ohio get KILLED at the bar across the street from Nippert Stadium

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

There were about 5 us there

All dodgers fans but me. It didn’t help that on the way in one kept yelling

HEY GIANTS FAN RIGHT HERE

by panda revival on Dec 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

not too smart dude!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, it was dumb..
nothing happened to i learned my lesson the easy way
luckily

by panda revival on Dec 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

luckily! better not do that again

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You must have been sitting well up the 3rd base line.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

CSN is retarded for not putting that up on their website

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

THEY HAVE TO!!!!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the first time a Linkin Park song didn’t make me want to puke.

Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010

by j14 on Dec 10, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

TRUTH!!!!! i actually think this song is pretty good

from now on everytime i hear it, makes me think of the giants

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I will tear up for the rest of my life,

every single time I see this. Thanks for posting it.

by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I totally agree, i just teared up watching it again

just the whole beginning part makes me tear up… just because of what Giants fans have gone through

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

While we're posting vid links

I’m behind on my viral videos but I’m glad Clayton Kershaw dancing made it to the top of my YT recs. LOLOLLOL

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

So,

would you trade witnessing the Bonds years for the 2010 WS title?

Holy Crap we got both.

But if you could only have one, which would it be?

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

Can. not. choose.

Bonds is so much of the reason why I fell in love with baseball, and therefore am so ridiculously ecstatic about winning the World Series, to begin with. So I can’t say I would give up watching him. And yet you can’t give up this year either. You just can’t.

Hard question is hard.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Although Bonds will never cease to amaze me, and I am eternally grateful for having gotten to watch him play.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m leaning towards championship too because it was so amazing but I’m thinking we’ll see another WS title (knock on wood) before we see another Barry Bonds

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

win

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Tough call

Flags fly forever, but this will always be burned into my memory too:

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

SIRM.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Right.

yeah. I am realizing this was the record.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe you don’t recognize the immortal Brian Schneider.

What’s scary is that I knew who it was without even looking it up.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t remember that but it could be the reason I subconsciously knew who it was.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t he the last Expo?

by Natto on Dec 10, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

In what sense?

There are plenty of ex-expos still playing.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Xexpos?

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind, it was Brad Wilkerson

He was the last Expos player to physically wear the uniform and last player to hit a home run as an Expo.

by Natto on Dec 10, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh gotcha

Here’s a trivia question for you all: Can you name the last player who was with the Expos at the time of the transition to play for the Nats?

Hint: McC favorite.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, this needs to be framed better

The player who made the transition who played, continuously, for the Nats longest.

God that’s convoluted.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Nein

Though he came back this year, he left in 06 via trade – 3 seasons before the correct answer left the Nats.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean: Le Dernier Expo.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How about we just be glad we don't have to choose.

:D

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrecked.

And saved to my computer.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Wreck'd hard.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Related to this post, but nobody has brought it up yet

Tim LIncecum is entering the final year of his 2 year deal. There are two more arbitration years after 2011 so he’s ours as long as we are willing to pay.

Are the Giants going to go to arbitration with him at the end of this year? Are they going to offer him a long term deal? Surely his agent will use Cliff Lee as the “starting point” of negotiation for a long term deal. He’s gonna want 7 years. He’s gonna want 150M+.

Is the ownership group willing to do a 7 year deal for a pitcher? With Matt Cain under contract for two more years, surely his agent will be watching the LIncecum situation so whatever they do here will have a profound impact on not just one, but two pitchers.

And if we don’t sign a long term deal, can you imagine the arbitration hearing?

“My Client is a two time Cy Young Award winner, and lead the major league in strike outs in a 3 year period. He won 4 games in the 2010 playoffs. He beat Cliff Lee. Twice. The man he beat twice is getting paid 23M a year.”

What’s Timmy going to fetch in 2012? Is he gonna sign a long term deal and for how much?

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

See, that’s what I thought this post was gonna be about.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this is a subject we're all afraid to talk about...

He’s going to get ridic amounts of money thrown at him by every team with money.
The best thing the Giants org can do is to match the offer.
The best thing the Giants fans can do is to make sure Timmy loves the bay and won’t want to leave.

by djfivenine on Dec 10, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be totally fine with it if he decided to go play for the Mariners. I’d be annoyed otherwise.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd call that the lesser of all evils.

It would still suck. But it would suck less than anywhere else.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s very important that the Mariners achieve lower tier mediocrity, no more and no less, and stabilize there.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Somehow I think the Mariners will actually be the least of our problems...

They’re going to have their own issues trying to keep King Felix around.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

What would Timmy accept today?

he is still under team contro for 3 seasons. So, would he take a 4 year extension that kicks in in 2012, extending team control at something like, 4/72? That would be good for him over the next three seasons but he’d be conceding a few million in 2014-2015

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd sign that deal in a heartbeat.

Not sure he would go for it. Maybe?

I hope extending him is rather high on Sabeans to-do list.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that deal is a best case scenario for the Giants

unless Timmy just totally disregards teh opportunity to become the highest paid pitcher ever.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

look, Timmeh is gonna want to be paid what he is worth, that’s a given. But also remember, he hates hot weather, and I doubt he’d take the same amount that the Giants would offer to play somewhere he is uncomfortable. He likes the West Coast, I feel confident that the Giants will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to keep our Timmeh.

Timmeh and Cain are the 2 that I want to be Giants forever. I’m too attached to them. I’ll probably feel the same way about Buster in a year as well.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Well it would get to the point where you'd have to ask is it the right thing to do?

I mean is 8/200 the right thing for the Giants to do?

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Screw it...

I’m just going to say yes.

Though, guessing that together they’ll probably be worth $40ish mil a year….yikes.

But I still couldn’t not want to sign them.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I might go as high as 6/180

but I wouldn’t want to go past 6 years.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

so long as they both stay healthy, they will be 28 I believe when they are up for FA. 6-7 year deals for both, $25mil for Timmeh, $15mil for Cain.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Cain will get more than $15mil...

But I would go for this.

Shorter is always preferable of course. But if you’re balancing between 1 more year than you want them and losing them completely…I’ll swallow the extra year and hope it works out for the best.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t Cain totally in love with San Francisco? That might take the edge off.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

Geographical discounts, ftw?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

He actual is..

He’s one of the few guys whose actually bought a house in the city

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

For various reasons...

I figure he’s the one who’s most likely to stay. He probably wants to the most. And he’s less likely to get insane amounts of money thrown at him than Timmy is.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And he’s less likely to get insane amounts of money thrown at him than Timmy is.

Doesn’t know how to win.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking more along the lines of...

Has less Cy Youngs :p.

But yes.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus… TIMMEH loves The Chronic.

The San Francisco Giants - YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPIONS

by zuma420 on Dec 10, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Timmy might go for 25 but he will have offeres for 28-30

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

This is when we start sending him homemade cookies.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a trap

(This is a Hideki Matsui Jersey)

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

/Banned

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

GTFO

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

READ THE FINE PRINT

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

OH GOOD... whew

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

/looks away

And THANK YOU for not posting a SIRM jersey.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

/Banned

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

/Rec'd

Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!

by jhiat00 on Dec 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

/Flagged

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

/Rec'd

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

/Banned

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

No one wants to even think about it. Every time it gets mentioned the thread devolves into repeated sad faces very quickly.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

Haz a sad.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

He. can’t. leave. Rawr.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He won 4 games in the 2010 playoffs. He beat Cliff Lee. Twice. The man he beat twice is getting paid 23M a year."

I seriously doubt that’s especially relevant in an arbitration hearing.

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by groug on Dec 10, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

But….dude knows how to win by playing the game right!

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...but the main point remains the same.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

In a word, no. If we had signed Lincecum or [Matt] Cain, we would have been without ___________, _____________, ____________, __________________, __________, ______________, _____________, _____________, _____________, ______________ and _____________—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

Give them deals at market. They are both elite starting pitchers and are likely to remain so for quite a while. I know he won the World Series, but I still don’t trust Sabean as GM and having a ton of money tied up in Lincecum, Cain, and hopefully Posey will prevent overspending on mediocrities like the players alluded to above plus Rowand and Zito.

And then, even if they break down, at least we can always remember 2010.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve prepared myself to accept that we can’t keep both of them (much less Sanchez AND Wilson) after 2012. But thank God we’ll still have Zito!

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing is, they CAN keep both of them. It just might mean we’d have to use Ryan Rohlinger instead of Mark DeRosa.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I Lol'ed...

which is bad when you’re in a library…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It is possibe that Timmeh, Cain, Wilson and Sanchy will be able to be retained after 2012/13.

Timmeh will get paid $25mil, Cain $20, Wilson $12-15, Sanchez won’t cost more than $10 IMO.

We’ll just have $70 of the $120mil invested in the pitching. Then there’s Posey and MadBum arb, so it’ll be cutting it close. Probably 90 of 120 will be spent on 6 players

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's to hoping bowtie raises payroll!

A couple more play-off runs might help that.

It is possible. Though I think Sanchez could go higher.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It's gonna depend on ticket sales over the coming years

If the Giants remain competitive and the seat sales stay high AND the net worth of the franchise goes up then the Giants will have both cash flow and incentive by the ownership group. At present the payoff for the ownership group is mostly in their cashouts when they sell their shares.

"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

by Rolfyboy on Dec 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

a couple more playoff runs will increase the value of the franchise considerably, and instead of contending only during peak years for offensive players, they can contend for 6-8 years if the pitching stays intact- which is such a long, sustained era of excellence that it would pay the ownership back in spades for retaining them.

This pitching staff has all the makings of a dynasty. Everything just needs to be played right. Starting with no multi-year deals (thankfully Uribe isn’t tying down $8mil in 2012)

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrecked.

Best post on the subject I’ve seen yet.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, can't somebody just total up all the bucks

we’ve spent since November 1, multiply it by 100 and give it to Timmy?

(Along with some mini-muffins and cards.)

by mrs. owlcroft on Dec 10, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

As much as I love Wilson, he’s probably not worth that.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

its just a guess. honestly, i could live without him, but whos gonna replace him? I’m not really even sure what a good closer is worth, but Willy could get $10mil a year

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

10 I might go for...

15, not so much. That’s Rivera money and he only got that because of the pinstripes.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You know, the pinstripes couldn’t have afforded it until they made that team with all those excellent kids.

If they can stay competitive over the next couple of years they might be able to squirrel enough away to do it. More importantly, this becoming a problem means that all these guys will have put up 3 more injury-free excellent years. That’s a much better problem to have than deciding whether Ryan Klesko should play 1B or LF.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:40 AM PST up reply actions  

He shouldn't be worth that.

Relievers shouldn’t be as a rule…

But that might be what the market calls for.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

he was worth that last year

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by Viliphied on Dec 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And if that’s the case, then the Giants should let him go and use the money to help pay for Lincecum and Cain—players who likely will be worth their contracts.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, sadly, probably this.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t forget Zito – add another $20m to the 2013 payroll. And that’s Pablo’s second arb year as well.

Look, I’m not saying that the Giants can’t keep the pitching core intact. Of course they can. I just don’t think it’s likely that we’ll continue to see payroll expanding to keep up with the market value of these guys.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito will be on the payroll for the 2013 season, but Timmeh is not a FA until after the 2013 season.

End of 2012 season, it will be Wilson and Cain up for FA, IIRC. That’s $35mil.
End of 2013 season, Timmeh and Sanchez will be up for FA. That’s $35-40mil.

So you’re talking 70 of the 120 will be accumulated to our pitching, but payroll could be as high as 140 by then, if they continue playoff success.

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Somehow it seems we've been over this before...

Countless times actually.

And we always end up at “Well, it SHOULD work out, but its still scary so lets all panic anyways”.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why we call it “rosterbation,” Ceora.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You really think it’s a good idea to put 50%+ of your team’s payroll on 4 pitchers? I don’t. Maybe that’s why I don’t think it’s likely that we’ll keep all four of them.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.

by esseffgeez on Dec 10, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Generally, no.

But it does depend on who those 4 pitchers are.

THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 10, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This line.

It’ll be harder to replace ridiculously good pitching than average hitting. So I’ll keep the good pitching. And we have some really good pitching.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't either

At best pick two, Tim and Cain, then you have to have a great closer to compete, so Wilson. Then hope the org can develop a great/good starter every 3-4 years. There will be the day that none of the present players are on the team. One just hopes the org as managed smooth transitions over the seasons rather then the bet the farm/crash and burn/we be rebuilding again business model.

by Leftyretro on Dec 10, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

This would be a happier prospect if they manage to develop more talent to fill in by that time. And I don’t mean 5th OF or backup C talent.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If we want to extend him

We’ll have to pay out the ass. 7/200 or something.

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not doubt this will be one of his choices.

probably from NYY.

Hopefully he will consider 7/175 or 6/165 or something like that.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why I'd love to see sabean work out an extension

like, now for something like 4/80, starting in 2012. That will buy out his arb years at a higer salary than he would have likely gotten in arb and extend team control for 2 years of his FA when he could be making 25-30 potentially.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm Tim

I don’t take that. I don’t take any deal that delays my entry into free agency.

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

not so sure

there’s something to be said for certainty, especially when it comes to pitchers

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by Viliphied on Dec 10, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, sure

But 2 years after FA is not certainty, especially not for a pitcher as good as tim.

Let me rephrase – if I’m Tim, I don’t take anything that delays my entry into FA unless it’s a 5+ year extension.

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by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

He'd still be 31 when he hit FA.

He could be looking at a similar market Lee is, just with a better resume.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

But why would he want to hit the FA market as a 31 year old...

When he could hit it as a 29 year old, and get MORE than Lee?

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He'd get more than Lee regardless

but…it’s just my optimistic hope. I think it’s the best case scenario for the Giants which means not the best case scenario for Tim. Maybe he recognizes the time value of money and would like to invest an extra 20 million over teh next three years????

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

/sigh

I know it was a stupid deal. But its all too easy to understand why Rockies fans liked the Tulo extension…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He'd stay a giant through 2015

instead of hitting FA after 2013

I could live with him walking after that. We would have gotten 8 years of him and probably 4 cy youngs and a couple of WS along with 4-5 NL pennants.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. Timmy and this team could be historically good, but that’s really optimistic given the vagaries of baseball.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Also...

If that actually happened, somehow I think we’d be even more unhappy with him walking that we would be now.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

It would be like Cleveland and Lebron with a happy ending. So really, nothing like Cleveland and Lebron, but we’d all thank Timmy for 8 incredible years, and have a parade from ATT to SFO to wish him a happy departure.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 10, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

/sigh

Standard breakdown of this conversation every single time…

Timmy leaving is going to suck.
Timmy is going to get a ridiculous amount of money.
Everyone haz a sad.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Better to have loved and lost (and won a World Series) than to have never loved at all.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha.

So is baseball. Oh, sports…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This has all been . . .

 . . . so seriously on-topic.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

They COULD win and make a lot of money, you know. If we’re going to traffic in happyland, we might as well hope that winning a WS changes the Giants’ revenue stream in ways previously not envisioned.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope Cain wins a Cy Young award, so there will be a test case the year before.

Also, if Timmy does go elsewhere, I hope its SEA. Also also, I look forward to everyone bitching him out for “selling out” for more money. “WHY DIDNT HE RESIGN FOR $1M LIKE BURRELL AND RENT?!?!”

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:37 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: Deciding on what hat to wear tonight… between the Giants hat, Cal hat, or a “The Bay” hat… probably just giants hat

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

No pants?

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by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

meh, not worried too much about that

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

then, the doctors office i presume.

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Dec 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Where are you going?
ooopsy I’m going to change the laundry…

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Off . . .

 . . . Topic

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Wear one and keep the other stashed in your coat.
Whenever the person your with looks away, quickly switch hats.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

“your”

I so crazy.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

THEY'LL NEVER FIGURE IT OUT!!!

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, I thought you hated Cal.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a big fan, but i do like the logo of Cal

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Garko

Just learned that Garko will play 1B and ‘hostage’ for South Korea in games vs Pyongyang.

I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.

by GiantMalcontent on Dec 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST reply actions  

flashback time

an old roommate of mine from college is moving out of her place, and found some old boxes of mine I had forgotten about. In one of the boxes, was my waffle-maker (YES!!) and also were some burned mix CDs and letters from my freshman yr gf.

Listening to one of them right now… whoa, it takes me right back there.

I feel so lucky to have such great memories of my life. Anyone remember: Wonderwall by Oasis? or Champaign Supernova? Drops of Jupiter by Train? Love Rollercoaster by Red Hot Chili Peppers? My Own Life by Long Beach Dub Allstars? Wouldn’t it be Nice, Beach Boys? Soul to Squeeze, RHCP? and of course, Good Riddance, Green Day?

talk about a blast from the past…

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

oh, there’s some Third Eye Blind in here too, lol

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

so around 1999?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

my first year of college was 2002, but most of these songs are from the ’90s IIRC

The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.

Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.

by giant4life83 on Dec 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

close enough

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember those songs. I think I put a couple on mix tapes/playlists in my time.

I feel prickishly demanding!

I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.

by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 10, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you write:

“Shitty Mix” on the blank CD?

Booyah.

Just kidding.

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oasis on a freshman CD?

LOLYOUNG!

Call me when you find a mix tape with REM on it!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Sad

Kids today don’t even know what a mix tape is.

by slcgiant on Dec 11, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate when I get my Scotch double sided tape tangled up with my generic brand invisible tape.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

totally

mixing tape can be lethal.

"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper

by O R They? on Dec 11, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Chili Davis

Can’t blame Al Rosen for that one. Chili hated the climate at Candlestick so much that he was leaving no matter what.

by Goat on Dec 10, 2010 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Too true

And Rosen replaced Davis with Butler, who put up three great years for us.

Proud father of Barry Bonds.

by Sabertooth on Dec 10, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true and it broke my heart

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Dec 10, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

How much would Neifi Perez get after this year:

.236/.260/.305?

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

OT- Why on earth didnt' I pick an easier language!?

/hating Japanese grammar

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

learn Chinese

the grammar is simpler

more tones, though

Mark DeRosa, still existing.

by oldjacket on Dec 10, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

KPOP 4EVER

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Dec 10, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

So I've heard...

…but unfortunatley I can’t switch languages before 8:30 tomorrow morning (final)…so I’m stuck with hating Japanese. There’s also a whole being able to speak with distant relatives element.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My career in college Chinese lasted two days. Chinese 1 was all ABC kids that could already speak Chinese but couldn’t write it. No way.

My brain just can’t make sounds out of pictures. I found Japanese more accessible because I could cheat with hiragana/katakana and thence to kanji. I didn’t keep up with it, but I think I found it easier to spell out the new word in my head and then figure out the picture that went with it. I probably would never have made it beyond Japanese 4 or so that way.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

nani? doshita?

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Dec 10, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The particles, for one.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently it’s just like Bengali, so it wouldn’t be too hard for me.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Wanna take my final for me?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If you take mine for me.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s it in?

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The English final will be the only hard one. How would you like to write an essay on The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn?

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

See now, English is a subject I’m actually good at. Then again, I haven’t actually read Huck Finn…so I’m not sure how accurate the essay would be.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s fine, I haven’t read it either.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That could be problematic.

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s always Wikipedia. That’s what I did for IB exams out of high school…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

…we could be getting somewhere here.

How do you feel about calculus?

=D

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never taken it.

We may have a problem.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Dang. I WISH I had never taken it.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 10, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

damned kids

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow
You guessed it: cufflinks made from actual balls used during the 2010 World Series, when the San Francisco Giants defeated Texas Rangers to win their first title in San Francisco and the Giants’ first in 56 years. Since the G-Men won in only five games, Tokens & Icons has only been able to secure a limited number of MLB Authenticated game used balls from which to make these links. When they’re gone, they’re gone, so get ’em while they last. And really, what better way to celebrate the victory than to have a literal piece of the action?

http://www.onthefly.com/product/tokens-icons/tokens-icons-san-francisco-giants-world-series-cufflinks/30150

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

Huh

I’ve heard of wearing your heart on your sleeve, but balls on your sleeve…that’s a new one.

"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong

by EliminateMe on Dec 10, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha!

/truly the most amusing . . .

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:25 AM PST up reply actions  

These would have been great for Glengarry Glen Ross

“See these cuff links? These are made from the baseball that Juan Uribe hit so hard, it cause Dave Flemming to reverse puberty. What do you have? Plastic buttons?

by haemaker on Dec 11, 2010 4:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sad that I came in late

on the discussion of the USSR’s growth rate.

Mark DeRosa, still existing.

by oldjacket on Dec 10, 2010 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

She’s lucky it’s as big as it is.

Baseball>Food>books and women

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I have something to say about the Diamondbacks uniforms

Originally, I hated the purple and teal, but at least it was unique. Now they are boring and red. Also, officially abbreviating their name to “D-backs” makes me slightly furious. Be proud of your stupid name and colors!

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Dec 10, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Shirley you gest.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:28 AM PST up reply actions  

No he isn’t and don’t call him Shirley.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 11, 2010 2:16 AM PST up reply actions  

still no other sizes for womens brian wilson tees except xxl

the giants store does now carry this little number though

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 7:14 PM PST reply actions  

What the hell is that?

by Natto on Dec 11, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

did anything interesting happen today?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 10, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

I went to Borders and got a holiday themed drink at Seatt—- oh, interesting? I don’t think so.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

‘Um, hello…? Is this thing on?’ /tap tap tap “Hi.”

Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former "3rd place finisher", now, about to become the "2010 World Series" champion. It looks like a miracle...

by todteacher on Dec 10, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

Good day, sir/maam.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:30 AM PST up reply actions  

CSN keep promoting the Giants Magic Inside DVD last night saying it’s available at Best Buy. I went there today and found it’s not out until next week.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

You know what? Fuck Best Buy. Every time I want to buy something the day it’s released and I go to Best Buy, it turns out they won’t even get their shipment for another week, much less actually shelve it.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll just wait. I’m not spending 3 extra bucks to buy it on MLB.com.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I think my Fuck Best Buy sentiment still holds, though.

I talk big, of course, but I’ll still probably go there before Christmas.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Although on MLB.com, its says “Release date: December 14”. Watching the commercial 1,000 during the NLDS replay, they made it seem like it’s out now.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

They might shelve it on time since it seems like a high-profile thing to roll out in the area before Christmas, but I would also not be surprised if you got there on the 14th and they were all like “lol wut?”

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The DVD box set is supposed to be out the same day. We’ll see if they carry that (although I purchased it at Amazon, the price gets lower every day and I know I’ll be paying the lowest price).

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

you can save yourself time by going online (well, or calling) and seeing if store pick-up is available. if not, they don’t have it.

by kingofthacove on Dec 11, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

They are a major chain store and should receive and shelve things when they are actually released.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I got it at BestBuy today… we just finished watching it. Arden Mall BestBuy in the [dvd] sports section.

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t available at our local one in SF. They did have the World Series highlights DVD.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe they sold out?
We got both “The Magic Inside” one and the Rob Schneider WS highlight one.

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe or the one you went to put it out early.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Sacramento>San Francisco

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that one.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Blech.
I’ll stop by next week and get some answers.
G-Funk style.

by waelwulf on Dec 10, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Just finished a final.

Fall Quarter. OVER.

by WesHanson on Dec 10, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

wow, Scott Downs 3/15 from LAA; WTF!!!

And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.

by nogooddeed on Dec 10, 2010 9:36 PM PST reply actions  

mlb trade rumors

we offered rent 1 mill
two other teams in on him

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 9:37 PM PST reply actions  

I haz a sad

Someone cheer me up?

"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona

by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

watch community

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 10, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Last episode was meh-tastic. Season 2’s not been excellent like Season 1.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS IS WRONG

Season 2 is kicking ass so hard that last night’s episode was “just average”.

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Dec 10, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

What.

Last night’s episode was amazing.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Dec 10, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

El Person is frequently wrong about things.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 10, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Overlong comment

It was a good Christmas special, but it wasn’t a good episode of Community; I didn’t love it because I don’t love Christmas specials. I didn’t laugh once because there wasn’t a ton of humorous stuff. The plot bothered me a little bit, too: I don’t want to see a man’s descent into insanity, because that’s fucking depressing. At this point, Abed’s my least favorite character; his acting clueless and talking about pop culture can be interesting, but only in small doses, and he really hasn’t developed at all since early in Season 1. Every Abed-centric episode is one that isn’t about the more interesting characters, especially Troy and Annie (who seem to be to Season 2 what Jeff and Britta were to Season 1). Also there were some fourth-wall issues (meta-humor is fine, self-awareness I’d prefer not happen), and the animation took away much of the visual humor that adds so much (see the massive quantity of Community GIFs floating around the Internet).

Wow, that makes me sound like I hated the episode, when I totally didn’t. I will say that when Community’s been good this year, it’s been as good as and even better than the best of Season 1 (for instance the season premiere, the bottle episode, and1 the bar episode). But there are too many parodies and such. The high-concept stuff last year worked because it was unexpected, and followed a long list of normal episodes. That’s not happening this year, and so it’s getting oversaturated with high-concept parodies. It’s still a good show, but it’s not as good as it might be.

1 Oxford comma. Suck it, haters.2
2 I’m actually really inconsistent in my use of the Oxford comma and I don’t have a strong preference either way.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the mega-downer drunk episode was a fun change of pace.

by Tynan on Dec 11, 2010 5:20 AM PST up reply actions  

The wife and I really enjoyed this episode.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants won the 2010 World Series!!!!

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

NFW

pics or it never happened.

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

hope this helps

what happened to the illegally parked frog?
he got toad.

One doctor always stopped at a local bar after work for a hazelnut daiquiri – a special drink the bartender created just for him. One day, the bartender ran out of hazelnut flavor so he substituted hickory nuts instead.
The doctor took one sip of the drink and exclaimed, ‘This isn’t a hazelnut daiquiri!’
‘No, I’m sorry’, replied the bartender, ’it’s a hickory daiquiri, doc.’

why is the calendar always on the run
cuz his days are numbered

"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."

Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010

by operation carrot on Dec 10, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This should do it...

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

by GiantPain on Dec 10, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And this...

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

/shameless squee!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Cue squee from Aubrey/Pat shippers.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

OT - I HATE FINALS

rawr

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

Gawd, me too….
Tomorrow morning is the end of it, though I’m not too happy to take a 50 question final in 45 minutes. Seems a bit rushed.

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve 2 tomorrow and one on Wednesday. Wednesday is easy though, just gotta get through tomorrow. Calc…ugh. I should NEVER have taken that class.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Well good luck to you! I think I’m going to get some sleep: I’m at my best at 6 or 7AM so I’m hoping to wake up early and get the danged thing over with!

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by Merope on Dec 10, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Good night and good luck! Quarters nearly over!!!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

My nephew goes to UC Davis. I think he’s taking or about to take finals.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

lolfinals

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

lol warriors

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Taking their talents to North Beach.

"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter

by Murray, Present on Dec 10, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The Warriors are so bad

Even their chief apologist Bob Fitzgerald said they aren’t going to the playoffs “even if they were healthy”.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Dec 10, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope the new owner turns this thing around

I’m also in favor of them moving to San Francisco by the Phone Booth to form the China Basin Mega Sports complex..

/drools

by DFARowand on Dec 10, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

This would be such a great move for that franchise

says the conflicted East Bay native.

"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 11, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I miss Barry Bonds.

I don’t care what anyone says. Watching him dominate baseball for a decade was like living in a dream. Nothing will ever compare.

that is all

Life is not about this Dirty Sanchez

by Howie Bruno on Dec 10, 2010 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

Heh, see up the thread.

Lots of Bonds love.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 10, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Mike Fontenot and his daughter.

Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Dec 10, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t know he had a kid.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 10, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering which of us would appear. Thanks. She’s beautiful.

He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Dec 11, 2010 1:37 AM PST up reply actions  

If I had kids I would be a bad parent...

‘Cause when it was my turn to hold the Trophy, I would just put my kid in there like it was a little Victory Crib. Then I would make him/her say: "Dad, I’m in this thing!"

Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s how Rent cut his eye at the postgame party. MLB needs less tortious trophies.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum

by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Hat bended but good.

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.

-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler

by Alex_Lewis on Dec 11, 2010 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques

by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

awww

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

by jponry on Dec 11, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Willie Mays?

Did I miss this? Greatest Giant ever? 11 years, $500 million, promise you won’t go to the Mets.

# 24

by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 10, 2010 11:18 PM PST reply actions  

You missed him

See my ’nuff sed, above.

by wcw on Dec 10, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot the no-trade clause, which would be important because he’d be worth every last penny of that salary.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Robby Thompson!

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

...link fail.

Here

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Scott Ostler Fail
Bay Area teams’ fatal flaws scare off top talent

Giants: The double deal-killer here is that the Giants can’t compete financially for the ultra-elite hitters, and the sub-great hitters don’t like the ballpark. Frankly, it scares them.

The right side of the outfield is too deep. The only way the Giants will ever sign a lefty power hitter in his prime is if they put Barry Bonds in a time machine.

The ballpark problem is fixable, but the current ownership won’t hear of any dimension alteration.

— Outlook grade: C-plus. As long as right-center is Acres of Outs, the Giants will be off-limits to free-agent lefty hitting stars, and some righties.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/SPVU1GNQ96.DTL&feed=rss.giants

You’re right Ostler. That’s the reason. It has nothing to do with the fact that we have 30 million dollars tied up in a bench player and a fifth starter. Or that we have stud two stud pitchers about to make 15+ mil. What a moron. Vlad would’ve come here except..“insert famous Sabean”

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

What?

You’re both right. We can’t compete financially for them – because of Rowand and Zito. He didn’t go into the details because he was writing, like, 50 words on each team.

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by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Which in the end just made it a crappy article…

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I just saw that...

Epic fail.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

That was dumb.

I want to palm-slap people who call for dimension alterations. The park is perfect the way it is.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

That's a big 10-4

Especially now that Dirty has zeroed in on triples alley.

by Leftyretro on Dec 11, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

I love the logic…

Let’s alter the best ballpark in baseball. Turn it into a clown box. And take away from our team’s greatest strength, it’s pitching.

The Chronicles doesn’t pay this guy the big bucks for nothing.

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Did he say that they should move in the fences?

No, he didn’t.

All he said was that NOT moving in the fences makes AT&T significantly less attractive to left handed hitters. Which is 100% absolutely positively true.

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by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually he did suggest it.

Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh?
The ballpark problem is fixable, but the current ownership won’t hear of any dimension alteration

Sounds like a suggestion to me.

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The right side of the outfield is too deep…The ballpark problem is fixable, but the current ownership won’t hear of any dimension alteration.

That certainly sounds like he thinks it should be changed to me. And that it could. Luckily, he has no say.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Generally speaking...

I think people are just irritated that he’s calling it a “problem” in the first place.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Want more?
The right side of the outfield is too deep.

Saying something is wrong and then saying it is fixable is suggesting something should be done.

How can you defend this dreck?

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Because it's an article about acquiring premium offensive talent

And, in the context of luring top offensive players to AT&T, the right side of the outfield IS too deep, and the bit outfield IS a problem.

My Son
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by GiantPain on Dec 11, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

You really believe..

A premium left handed offensive talent would turn down a deal from us if we made him the best offer because of right field at AT&T?

LOL

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The writer said that the “premium” lefties are beyond our budget, and those who aren’t quite that great have reservations about the right field. It makes sense, it’s just not a obstacle that I agree should be removed.

Look out. I'm having a thought.

by waelwulf on Dec 11, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I love how Adam Laroche turning us down..

Means every “sub-great” (LOL on that term) left handed hitter wouldn’t want to play here.

Aubrey Huff sure had reservations about re-signing here. O wait we matched the best offer he received!

Shocking! The guy signed the best offer he could get.

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

If the argument is..

Whether guys would rather sign here or with the Yankees then that’s a different story.

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair...

Huff was a little worried to at first I think. And there was the inside-the-park home run.

worries over.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

And oddly, Huff’s HR numbers were almost EXACTLY in line with his 162-game career average.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

We have difficulty attracting players, yes.
He identifies the park as the problem.
Indignation follows.

Yes, it might make potential additions anxious,
But it also plays to a lot of what is desirable about the team in the first place.

Look out. I'm having a thought.

by waelwulf on Dec 11, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s suggesting that it should be changed. There is really almost no other way to read it. I commend you for finding one, but he is clearly suggesting that the park’s dimensions need to be changed.

Placeholder.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

There would be a riot...

…if the dimensions were ever altered. Or at least, there should be one.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

My tent, this camp. Don’t change the dang dimensions. The Giants are built on pitching, I love laughing at [Phillies] batters as their bandbox homerun dies a glorious death in triples alley.

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by Merope on Dec 11, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I almost passed out laughing

When Kinsler’s (right?) hit bounced back off the top of the fence.

Look out. I'm having a thought.

by waelwulf on Dec 11, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I’d totally forgotten about that. So many great memories.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Dec 11, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m perfectly happy with this dimension, although I wouldn’t mind being in the one filled with buxom babes.

by Natto on Dec 11, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Too lazy to shop a picture of a sweet rack onto Babe Ruth, but at least I can put the image in your brain.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 11, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: Draft Money

Right, I’m not a native baseball fan and thus am learning as I go, but…
Why don’t teams spend far more on drafts? Surely it makes sense to punt $3m on a signing bonus if they’re even liable to give you 1 or 2 WAR in future?

by Deleuzian on Dec 11, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

Volatility

It is so so hard to predict who will be stud. Go through the draft results from previous years sometime. It will blow your mind

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

This is what Keith Law advocates

that teams should not sign free agents and put all the money in the draft and the scouting department because under the current structure pre arbitration players are the best bargain in baseball, even considering the high fail rate.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 11, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He's back!
SF_Giants
  
Waldis Joaquin rejected the White Sox waiver claim to become a free agent & signed a minor league deal w/ the #SFGiants today. Welcome back!

Slow news day.

"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."

by Ceora on Dec 11, 2010 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry my adopted sun

I’m tossing you back into the wild no matter what. You’ve failed me for the last time.

by DFARowand on Dec 11, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait he gave up 40 man salary with Sox to resign with the Giants?

Am I missing something here?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Dec 11, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes is the king of the world?

by TBRMKane on Dec 11, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's point and laugh

Some guy on Gas Lamp Ball thinks trading Adrian Gonzalez will make the Padres better – in 2011!

Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!

by jcb9 on Dec 11, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

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