The Greatest Contract in the History of Professional Sports
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 5, 2010 12:18 PM PDT
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PrintLet’s talk about the greatest contract in the history of professional sports. There are some simple guidelines for this discussion:
- The contract can only be the greatest in the history of professional sports if it is somehow related to the San Francisco Giants winning the World Series
I think that’s the de facto standard throughout the sports world now. So my nominee for the greatest contract in the history of professional sports:
Barry Zito: Seven years, $127M
Argument in favor: The Giants won the World Series.
Argument against: Something about payroll. I can’t remember.
The Giants won the World Series; your argument is invalid. Of course, Zito is tied with the 41 other players who appeared in a Giants uniform this year. Brandon Medders: one of the greatest contracts in the history of professional sports. Maybe if Medders doesn’t melt down against the Pirates in April, Brian Wilson comes in for the tenth inning and takes a line drive off the knee, ending his season. The Giants trade John Bowker and Joe Martinez for Octavio Dotel, who becomes the closer. The Giants finish the season two games behind the Padres.
Maybe. Probably not. But I do know this: with Brandon Medders throwing baseballs soaked in kerosene, the Giants won the World Series. That’s what happened. Without Brandon Medders, a lot of other things could have happened. They didn’t, and the Giants won the World Series.
Also, here’s something you might not have thought about for a while: The Giants won the World Series.
But back to Zito. You don’t even have to do those sorts of mental gymnastics to see how valuable Zito was to the team. He pitched close to 200 innings with an average ERA. If Zito were replaced with Kevin Pucetas or Joe Martinez, the Giants probably don’t win the World Series. If he quits baseball to play competitive Yahtzee, and the Giants sign Rich Harden or Ben Sheets, the Giants probably don’t win the World Series. Seven years, $127M, one championship. Bargain, even if he was left off every postseason roster.
I wouldn't go back in time and trade Zito for Albert Pujols in March because there's a small chance that somehow leads to the Giants not winning the World Series. Maybe Pujols gets injured, and Todd Wellemeyer stays in the rotation all season. Maybe Pujols goes 2-for-18 in the World Series, including an oh-fer against Tommy Hunter in Huff's spot in the lineup. Unlikely, but maybe. I'll take the certainty of a World Series win, thank you.
- Mark DeRosa, who was given $6M to hit like a pitcher before his wrist tendon turned into a fog and leaked out his ears: greatest contract in the history of professional sports.
- Aaron Rowand, he of the Dante Powell production on a Matt Holliday salary: greatest contract in the history of professional sports.
Long post short: From Tim Lincecum to Waldis Joaquin, every member of the 2010 San Francisco Giants was a butterfly flapping its wings, and the end result was the Giants winning the World Series. Whatever it took to get everyone in place, whatever it took to create the exact sequence that we watched, was absolutely worth it. No more whining about contracts on this team. No more wondering what the Giants could do with the roster if Rowand weren’t around. The San Francisco Giants won the World Series.
Wait, hold on. There’s still a Dodgers fan who hasn’t vomited after reading this. The San Francisco Giants won the World Series. There, that did it.
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I do not
I posit that absent the Zito contract, the team would have won two World Series in the same year.
I don't know about that
…but absent the Zito and Rowand contracts, the Giants might have a better chance to remain competitive in the long term.
That isn’t to say that I would change anything since - as has already been pointed out - the Giants won the World Series, and a bird in the hand…
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 5, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's more the short term where it hurts us
Unless Sabean does something stupid and goes out and signs more overpriced vets to longterm deals, the Rowand/Zito era will be totally over following the 2013 season— right around when we’ll need to be shelling out big contracts to guys like Lincecum and Cain. What sucks isn’t that the Rowand and Zito contracts are killing us in the long run, it’s that if we weren’t paying those guys NOW we could really capitalize on the fact that we’re getting so much great pitching from really cheap young players and could splurge to add some big bats to complement them if we had the free money
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 6, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
/points to the title of this post.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
/remembers “The Throw” in the 2010 NLCS and smiles a happy smile.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
give him an extension!
14 years, 254 mil!
Bochy took us all the way!
Buster Posey
Gets paid like a batboy, hits like Joe Mauer.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Bat boys get a $6 million bonus? Sign me up!
Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Nov 5, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Record signing bonus.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I have a conspiracy theory
That the reason Boras voided the Pirates deal with Alvarez was because his client didn’t get the biggest signing bonus in the draft
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Oooh yeah. Ok.
I took it as, they combined some shares and gave him 6 Million.
by Uncle Russel on Nov 6, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Who's Joe Mauer?
Isn’t he on some 2010 non-World Championship-winning team?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
well played...........that one guy
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Nov 6, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed.
Without him riding the bench, Timmy or Buster might have sat there and gotten splinter.
You laugh now, but in March that was reality for Buster, and a temptation for many with Timmy in August.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Where would we be without [insert player here]
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 5, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions
Two of the greatest contracts were done by Jim Hendry to Carlos Zambrano and Alfonso Soriano. They get zillions no matter how they perform. How does that help the Giants, you ask? Well, they are on the Cubs and not on your club. They also gave zillions to Fukudome before he ever set foot on a MLB field.
BARRY BONDS!
If the Giants had the extra few deferred million owed to Bonds they might have done something dumb like get Nick Johnson to sign, who then would have got hurt entering in his pin number to deposit the check at the ATM.
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
When do they stop paying Bonds? Wasn’t it $5M per year?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 5, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This Baggs column from 3 years ago says he gets paid through 2011
http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_7024192
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
This is an excellent point. Thanks, Barry!
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Giants didn’t sign Barry Bonds, then they wouldn’t have spent years bankrupting the farm system to surround him with Michael Tuckers to try and win a championship, thus sending the team into a tailspin when they failed to develop minor leaguers, which of course led to the awful seasons that gave the Giants high enough picks to draft Tim Lincecum, Buster Posey, and Madison Bumgarner.
Were it not for the organization shooting itself in the foot trying to win a World Championship with Bonds, then it never would have won a World Championship without him.
By contrast, our late first round picks haven’t helped us at all. What has Gary Brown done for this organization? Nothing, that’s what! I rest my case.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
by Solidarity on Nov 5, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They came awfully close in 2002
..and won ton of games and fluked out in the first round.
So it is not like the idea of winning with Bonds did not make sense at all. It was a pretty good idea.
..in 2003.
..omitted from the second sentence.
:(
That was supposed to be a link to the Barry Bonds Martyr T-Shirt. I am a proud owner!
by InTimmyWeTrust on Nov 6, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Time Travel screws everything up
So many plot holes.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
My brother has a very wise saying
“There are two types of science fiction plots: those that involve time travel, and those that might possibly not suck.”
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
OT: NE DT gets fined for hit on Favre that took him out of the game
i guess they will be playing flag football for the rest of the year?
Two-hand touch.
Penalties for shoving and inappropriate contact.
/Favre sports open-fly jeans, draws penalties like never before
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
I will never complain about these deals retroactively
HOWEVER, I can look at them going forward and say they suck.
Don’t forget Zito sucking in the first two years of his contract helped get us Bumgarner and Posey.
by Natto on Nov 5, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Armando Benitez recently turned 38
His suckage needn’t be forgotten
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I believe BVCE called this "jaunty shelled Mando"
I love my shirt version
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
I love this
every time it is dug out of the archives.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
me too
although I love it a lot more when it is a cartoon and not an artist’s rendering of the previous night’s game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
very true, wasn’t so funny when he was ACTUALLY pitching for us (No, you didn’t do your job). I’m just waiting for a bandwagon fan to ask who is the guy pitching.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
Best closer of all time…or no
by MakeBeatzNotWar on Nov 6, 2010 1:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He did his job.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
i love this image so much
it’s all about the bill falling out of his back pocket somehow… i can’t explain it.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
love love love
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll never forget the first time you posted this — it was a Giants/A’s day game in Oakland and since I could get the game on TV. When Benitez came in and struggled, I asked in the gameday thread how Armando looked out there. This was Natto’s response, and the world has never been the same since.
Best. Description. Ever.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Was this bf or after the Balk of the Century?
by iamwhatiam on Nov 5, 2010 8:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If
you were to post this every day for the rest of my life, I would laugh and rec it each and every time.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Never forget
I was present in NY for the ridiculous meltdown against the Mets.
I am convinced that meltdown led directly to the Giants winning the World Series.
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
F#CKING BLOWNITEZ!
… Yelled it at the park one time and some beer bellied guy gave me a thumbs up and nod.
Wait, hold on. There’s still a Dodgers fan who hasn’t vomited after reading this. The San Francisco Giants won the World Series. There, that did it.
Best line written in the history of the English language.
by skilletboy on Nov 5, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
I really dislike the Dodgers
but their fans are too apathetic for me to care much these days…Rockies fans however…
Wait until after 2011 to make that statement... :P
by skilletboy on Nov 5, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Not talking about the team...
just the fans…I live in Dodger/Angels territory…Dodger fans seems to care about going to the ballpark more than the team.
Utter reply failure.
/takes a bow
by skilletboy on Nov 5, 2010 12:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Their apathy is what makes me hate them so much.
Leaving a game in the 7th inning is blasphemy.
I don’t care if you have a 1-2 hour drive home.
It’s a disgrace to the game.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Nov 5, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
they've all decided they never liked baseball anyway
it’s all about kobekobekobekobekobe down here in laker land
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that an Armenian food grilled on skewers?
Come to think of it I would love to open a Kebob stand at the Latrine and call it Skewers in the Sewer.
I think it would be a big winner.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
it couldn't be a stand, it would have to be a restaurant
and you wouldn’t have permission to enter through the back door.
And your friends can’t watch.
Andres Torres
$400ish K, 6WAR.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Deep discount FTW!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
every member of the 2010 San Francisco Giants was a butterfly flapping its wings, and the end result was the Giants winning the World Series
Not just the team, but every one of us as well. Do you know how difficult it is to remember exactly what I did every day while the season was going on? I mean, it isn’t like I was taking notes!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 5, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
so many opportunities to jinx the Giants!
amirite
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Ah yes, the chaos theory
maybe we should change our team slogan next year to Giants Baseball…Chaos ???
If we're going to take credit as fans...
…then I’m going to claim more than my share of it as the biggest pessimist in the Giants world.
I refused to open my mind to hope. After Scott Spezio — and all of the mini-horrors that led up to that major one — I was not going to let the baseball gods fuck with me again.
If I closed my mind to hope — if I REFUSED to believe — they might shrug their shoulders and move on. And so it proved.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 5, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
My wife read your post and asked me, "Did you change your name to Grizzlie Antagonist"?
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
My professor knew I tried to go to SF on wednesday
I guess i’m obvious. IDC.
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I had an exam the day before the parade, and my math professor gave us 10 free points because the Giants won the World Series. Under it I wrote, “See you at the parade tomorrow.” It’s a M-Thurs class at 10:30, but he didn’t seem to care that I missed.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was like “can I have the essay prompt since I wasn’t hear wednesday” and he said “You were at the parade weren’t you”
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Excellent
My polisci prof answered all of us bitching about having to write an in-class essay Wednesday. He said he had to be there, and that he missed most of the WS because he had to teach, so we all had to be there too. Besides, I went to class and if anyone ever had a reason or a right to cut to go to the parade, it’s me. But I need A’s to get into grad school, so I went.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to class that is
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I totally read this as referring to the Oakland A’s.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I need the Oakland A’s to get into grad school! Help!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re going down to the Dominican Republic to convince them?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
All part of my plan.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, because I couldn't go to the parade
The damn BART station had no spots
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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The Rowand Contract...
Worth every penny and then some, considering it thwarted any talk of a Linceum-for-Rios trade. Thank God!!!
by BobSacamano on Nov 5, 2010 12:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Those swings were a bargain
Probably worth at least $10mil each.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
Three $6 million swings?
Without his 2-run shot off Wagner in the home opener, we don’t win the division.
by BobSacamano on Nov 5, 2010 1:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
oh snap
True story.
Go giants.
Dude
Don’t I know you?
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Wait...
Scott… THE Scott? As in the percussionist? Friggin’ sayer of sooths.
BTW I’ve been here a while, and posting a bit since July.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
I know silly goose
We just never crossed comments before. True story from Scott. He also predicted those gun shots last year about half a minute before they went off at Whiskey Wild.
Sabes' Greatest Hits
So after just missing a titles due to rally monkey, sabes goes on to make a series of savvy moves to get the giants over the hump. Lets take a look at the biggest moves from each offseason:
2002 – Edgardo Alfonzo – 4yr/26M
2003 – Pierzynsky Trade
2004 – Armando Benitez – 3yr/21M
2005 – Matt Morris – 3yr/27M
2006 – Barry Zito – 7yr/126M, Honorable Mention to Dave Roberts – 3yr/18M
2007 – Aaron Rowand – 5yr/60M
2008 – Edgar Renteria – 2yr/18M
2009 – Mark DeRosa – 2yr/12M
Every one of these moves was critical, and it all lead to a world series win.
Shocking. Stunning. Alotta Happy.
With Liriano and Bonser in the rotation and Nathan closing games, there's no way we are where we are today
No Posey, no Timmy, no Cain.
Wilson may or may not be a setup man who certainly doesn’t have a Beard of Legends
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
unbelievable
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
If they don't sign Matt Morris
Then he doesn’t get traded for Rajai Davis. If there is no trade for Davis, then he’s never cut loose. If he’s never cut loose, then maybe there isn’t room to work in Andres Torres’ 152 ABs in 2009. If there’s no room to work in those 152 ABs, then he never gets a chance to show the flashes of ability that allow him to become a rock at the top of the lineup in 2010. And without a rock at the top of the lineup, the Giants would bat Aaron Rowand there the whole season. In other words, if they never signed Matt Morris, the Giants don’t win the World Series.
Science.
Your point, and the point of this entire entry
Every one of these moves was critical, and it all lead to a world series win.
Is that the championship pays the tab for all previous mistakes and reasons for complaining. And I totally agree.
Fresh complaints only, going forward!
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
IF this and IF that.
Well what IF Joe Martinez becomes the next big name in the MLB? and with him we had the most dominant pitching rotation ever? And what IF Bonds came back and hit more HR’s than ever? What if we hadn’t got lincecum? Or Posey, or Bum? You can say all you want but Zito’s contract sucks and I hope we find a way to get rid of him so we can resign our actual talent and a big Free agent? Your post is a nice lil thing that’s cute, but Zito sucks.
lol
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 5, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
LULZ
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I'm clicking...
…but I still can’t look inside!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Too bad, EliminateMe
…‘cause it’s really magic inside.
"(Christy) Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball. The first statement means the same as the second." - Damon Runyon
POOT
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
corner boys FTW
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Your uncle is a chick with a penis?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
by jhiat00 on Nov 5, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It would have to be attached, right?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Your Aunt, or your uncle. really your choice.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
There is no way in hell, I am clicking whatever this is.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
you know you did.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
These two sentances do not seem to go together.
also LOL at:
King Missle’s "Detachable Penis"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
It’s a silly song from the 90’s. There was a Beavis & Butt-Head scene when they came across this vid.
The Giants won the World Series; your argument is invalid.
2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants. Wait, what? F YEAH, SHUT UP!
I said this to my wife the other day about taking out the trash. Best look she’s ever given — a mix of confusion, frustration, and downright loathing.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would we want our actual talent to resign?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If we celebrate the best thing to ever happen to humanity, then we’ll certainly get asshats bitching about nothing in particular.
Thank you for bringing this full circle.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Zito is a sunken cost, which means, the money’s already spent. You can’t jump in a time machine and undo it.
Additionally, you can’t jump in a time machine and undo THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS HAVE WON THE WORLD SERIES.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Jump in that time machine to undo it only to find upon your return your mother has married Russell Martin and torn down AT&T Park and put up a casino and the Giants entire 25 man roster has been “committed.”
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
by satyricrash on Nov 5, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Jump in that time machine to undo it only to find upon your return your mother has married Russell Martin and torn down AT&T Park and put up a casino and the Giants entire 25 man roster has been "committed."
This vision of the future is much more frightening than anything George Orwell or Philip K. Dick ever wrote.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
“He said, “Someday a crazy, wild eyed scientist or a kid may show up asking about that book.” Funny, I never thought it would be you."
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Nov 5, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, Biff?
You’re forgetting about one important thing…. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!?!?!
/throws ninja star ashtray
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Nov 5, 2010 10:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's obvious that Sabes is a genius
His whole plan was to ride BLB until he left, and then have a few horrible seasons while making worse GM moves, all to get good prospects who would one day take us to the promised land. The guy isn’t an idiot.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
Also, the Wellemeyer signing was pure gold.
Sign a terrible pitcher and then force him to blow something out as soon as Bumgarner is ready. Brilliant!
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that if you replace Zito with someone like Pucetas or Joe Martinez, the Giants don’t win it all. However, the Giants were looking at adding an FA pitcher anyway, so if they had signed someone like Ted Lilly, who really wanted to pitch for them, they probably would have even won it easier.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
but then
maybe Bum doesn’t start a WS game, and instead Lilly gets shelled, and we lose.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
or Ramirez or somebody pitches 2 innings in Philly
the end.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
THE GIANTS HAVE THEIR OWN STUPIDITY TO THANK FOR THE WORLD SERIES!!!
by ir1shgiant on Nov 5, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
And that answers that question
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
Jeff Passan?
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 5, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Edgar Renteria
Dude hits homers in the World Series. That $18 million was worth every penny.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
if you told Sabean two years ago that Renteria would do nothing for two years but then be the MVP of the World Series, he probably would have even given him more.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
With the exception of his poor offensive production in his two years,
it was indeed worth every penny.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
Favre OT: Perhaps the worst article I've read
Sterger making Favre sympathetic figure
I’ve always covered these cases with a prosecutorial inclination, figuring guys are almost always guilty of something. So the obligatory disclaimers are in order. I’m not saying that Jenn Sterger wasn’t a victim of workplace harassment. I’m not saying women with sexualized personas can’t be harassed; perhaps they’re more likely to be harassed.
Just the same, what to make of somebody like Sterger, who went on-air for the Jets with T-shirts vandalized to accentuate her then-ample cleavage? Going back to her days as a Florida State Cowgirl, Sterger demanded notice as a kind of carnal hood ornament. I don’t know if her motives were mercantile or merely narcissistic. But they came together as a kind of career choice. Hence the boob job, and the photo spreads in Maxim and Playboy. For Jenn Sterger, the attention was, quite literally, money.
She wanted to be recognized in an erotic way. And, obviously, Favre did. But again, was it harassment?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Brett-Favre-Jenn-Sterger-text-phone-pictures-110410
uh..
But again, was it harassment?
YES
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
although ive always subscribed to the theory
that if you dont want guys looking at your cleavage, dont wear low cut shirts and such.
that doesnt mean it wasnt harassment though. it was
I agree with the “if you dont want guys looking at your cleavage, dont wear low cut shirts and such” theory as well, I’ve just never heard twisted into a “if you dont want guys sending you photos of their junk, dont wear low cut shirts and such” argument before.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
/sends Josh a picture of his junk
well, you asked for it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a female, who had a cute, athletic body when young, with ample boobs. Except for being short, I had a body guys noticed. That said, it is ridiculous for a woman to go around, trying to get guys attention, and then cry foul when they respond. I also have doubts that Favre’s pimmel was in those pictures. If he did send them, then he was letting Mr Happy do his thinking for him. When will prominent men understand that women like the attention they get from coming on to stars, and that it will never be a secret?
I have no idea why men go crazy about women.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 5, 2010 11:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you miss the part about the boobs?
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 6, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm
So I should send a picture of my penis to Michelle Obama?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Oh man.
The government totally flagged me for that one.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Nice knowing you, dude
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
The old she had it coming article
Good times…
From the looks of it, he probably knows exactly what Favre is going through.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 5, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
the candy van can!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you're all misunderstanding what he's saying
If she’s actively taking part in this and not rejecting what he’s doing than it’s not harassment. Especially when you consider that it doesn’t sound like the very first text was a shot of little Brett. If some chick you’re trying to hook up with sends you nekked pictures of herself that’s not harassment even if you decide after seeing the naked pictures you no longer want to hook up with her. Stupid yes, but harassment no. Consequently, the inverse is true. If she’s encouraging his texting and phone calls and texting back with him, it’s not “workplace” harassment. It sounds like she was flirting pretty heavily with Brett Favre and figured out a way to make a buck off of that.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 5, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You are right!
Sexual harassment has to meet some criteria.
Is it wanted?
Is it repeated (this only applies to asking girls for numbers or on dates at work)?
Does it effects ones ability to work?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 5, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that point of the article
But the discussion is pointless…I don’t really care if she was or was not harassed…people only care about this story because Favre is involved…it’s about his lack of judgment as a married person…
It’s like Tiger Woods…I don’t think anyone is saying any of the women did not consent…
I care if she was harassed
Because men who do that to women should just have their dick cut-off, but I agree that it’s only news because Favre’s involved and his wife should just take everything he has.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 5, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That's true...
but the writer also assumes that because Sterger dresses sexy therefore she wanted the attention and thus the relationship was likely mutual…he’s got no inside information about what happened between the two…just his assumptions.
I don't know
He has the story from her friend who says that she was with her when she got the text, so that stands for something and seems to be where he gets the notion that she was okay with this. He also has the information that even though she’s been asked to speak with the NFL she still hasn’t done it.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 5, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The friend also said she's not close friends with Sterger
Also…I’m not sure there is an allegation of harassment out there…there is certainly no civil case…just a NFL investigation…
Why is it
That even if you’re pursuing someting with someone, if it gets out of hand it’s warranted and it’s our fault. I don’t know the full story and maybe she is digging for money or maybe she genuinely felt uncomfortable about it.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I guess my point is
We don’t know what went on, or how many times this happened but its unfair to make judgements when we don’t have all the facts.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
It's not your fault
But if she was pursuing it, it would change from workplace harassment to a lewd act. My point was that she continued to converse and text back and forth with Favre even after she got the text which makes it look and sound like she was looking for a payday. The reason why there’s a distinction between something pursued and something not pursued is that no one would ever be able to have sex without risking a criminal charge if there weren’t some boundaries and distinctions in place. If she told him to stop and he kept doing it, than burn his ass. But if she never told him to stop, then she’s just looking to get paid.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 5, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about that...
Certainly if she encouraged him to send her pics and reciprocated then it’s more reasonable but sexual harassment can also come in the form of power (actually most of the time it is)…someone in Sterger’s position (young reporter) maybe fearful of losing her job if she called Favre out on it…
I'm honestly wondering
Is there any solid evidence that she continued to text him even after that was sent?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Yes, the Pharisees are very strict about heresy.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
but the Hypocrites tend to waffle on the issue
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The same could be said of the other side
Is there any solid evidence that Favre did anything wrong? Right now it all amounts to rumors and unnamed sources.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 5, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He has admitted to leaving voice mail messages
and the photos are out there (Favre denies that it’s him)
Ha.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 5, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Deanna Favre
Likes this very much.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 5, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Deanna has a good arm
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By like 10-20 years maybe.
GET IT? CAUSE FAVRE IS OLD!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Man getting hit by football
starring George C. Scott
by PocketfullofPoseys on Nov 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Since YouTube took down the video
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1942468
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 5, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It works on so many levels!
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
Truth be told
Sterger isn’t all that hot for a HOF QB to show his shaft to her via a text. I mean I wouldn’t mind sending her pics of my junk from “Myspace” angles but then again I don’t play professional football. Erin Andrews on the other hand…
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Nov 5, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait. Did you really just say that?
I don’t anyone has said anything more wronger in the history of the world.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 5, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I would appreciate if this whole thread were to disappear.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
/sigh
This isn’t remotely offensive at all.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Seriously
aside from the people saying “In this case she may have been asking for it and it would not have been harassment” stuff, this statement is just ridiculous.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
blame the victim
fucking bullshit
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I don’t even know what to make of Ms. Sterger. I don’t think she’s a legit member of the media to begin with and she’s always struck me as attention-whorey. However, Favre is a douchenozzle as he’s proven time and again. If she did welcome this kind of treatment from him through flirting or whatever, it still shouldn’t be splashed all over ESPN. Nobody needs to know if Player X’s penis is being shared around the league. I’d like it if both parties shut the fuck up about it and went on doing their own things.
Then again, there’s no reason why Favre should be splashed all over ESPN but this has been our reality for the last few years.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a highly trained sexual harrasment expert
by that I mean I had to take both an 1/2 course and an online one at Stanford.
It’s harassment if it’s some combination of
a) unwanted
b) persistent
c) reasonable person would say that’s offensive
Doesn’t have to be all 3 at “maximum effect”.
Note that they are all linked. If it’s not very © then you are “allowed” to try once because otherwise how would you know it’s (a). However even if it’s not © at all, then it can be harassment if it’s persistent.
For example, if I say you have pretty hair, and ask you out for lunch – it’s not going to be harassment unless you specifically ask me to stop asking, or there are other factors (I’m your boss, I’m drooling, etc.)
Obviously, © applies to cases of emailing dic pics – it’s “presumably” offensive and unwanted “by a reasonable standard”. Although it’s only persistent if he took viagra first…. j/k… it’s persistent if he sends it again after she asks him not too.
Note that one can obviously construct a situation where Brett could reasonably have supposed that it was OK for him to send her a downloadable unit. Simply dressing like a playboy bunny probably doesn’t qualify.
Brian Sabean: Greatest GM in the history of history
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
yes. yes it was.
Is Sterger a misogynist douchebag?
yes. yes he is.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
ack
Kriegel, not Sterger.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I've heard quite a few Burrell stories myself
Most of them involve him saying something along the lines of “Who wants to fuck Pat Burrell” as well. And none of them are the ones told in the article.
Coincidence?
This is my favorite Grant offering ever
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
lmao, awesome post. Rec'd
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
We're no. 61...we're no. 61!
The WhatIfSports baseball simulation power ranking engine matched this year’s Giants with every World Series champion starting in 1903 to the present to determine which squad ranks supreme. Each team used in the simulation was pitted against every World Series champion in a seven-game series, with three games home, three games away, and the seventh game’s home/away location randomly decided between the two teams.
2010 Giants
Personally, this placement is perceivably too high for a lineup that featured Burrell, Ross and Huff as its main offensive weapons. Then again, it’s hard to quantify the effect of Lincecum, Cain and Wilson’s beard.
Wouldn’t the different eras that these teams played in greatly skew any results.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
stop with your logic…
mound height irrelevant…
half of the teams playing with only white guys…doesn’t matter…
steroids…pointless
So
Due to work, this is my first post since Game 5. After nearly four days, it’s finally sinking in that – HOLY SHIT! – the Giants really did win the World Series.
Grant is still posting intra-day, Lars is back…it’s like the world’s been re-invented or something. Wooooooh!
Also, Barry Zito’s contract still sucks.
They could be Giants...but not really.
hell yes, worth every penny, all of em....guess i need to find a new moniker, but this one has majic
humm baby, WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS
Trade Sabean...
Greatest Contract of the Year
Game 2 of the series at Nationals Park a Giants fan reached over the wall to steal a ball and give Posey a HR even after it was reviewed.
Even if we hadn’t lost the game (without Posey’s HR), it might have messed him up, mentally, for the rest of the season (see Grant’s butterfly analogy).
“It wasn’t a great feeling,” Posey said of the brief stoppage. “I really didn’t want to go out there to second base, so I was glad it held up.”
Total cost of the fan’s contract? $0.
So thank you random Giants Fan in DC (or should I say, World Series MVP)
Tsuyohsi Shinjo: Underwear model, winner of Japanese "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire," Ham Fighter, and member of the Giants team that would have participated in 2002 WS if an asteroid hadn't destroyed Earth.
I was at that game.
Fan did not reach over the wall. It was an easy homerun
Wellemeyer won?
Wow I’m shocked I think you’re lying.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Proof!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN201004270.shtml
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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The Giants went 1-5 in games I attended this year. The one win was Wellemeyer vs. the Astros.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
more like
Mike Benjamin Curse King!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Everyone thinks the Posey callup was the turning point in the season, but in reality it was me moving away from the Bay Area at the end of June.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 5, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Los Gigantes de San Francisco ganaron la Serie Mundial.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
geants?
peut etre?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Non, mon ami
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saison_2010_des_Giants_de_San_Francisco
They could be Giants...but not really.
Damn you took away my two best languages. I could write that in Japanese if you held a gun to my head.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
*couldn't
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
サンフランシスコ・ジャイアンツはワールドシリーズ制覇を達成した。
bonus picture
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Greenleaves?
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
You bastard.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
..
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I was flipping through the day after game 5 and saw one of the local AZN channels (I can’t tell which channel belongs with which culture, so I won’t try) talking about the Giants. That’s when I realized we were the talk of the world.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't believe they put this on their front page...
this is not the bay area edition of their newspaper, right?
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slow news day…
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I don't know...
Giants are a pretty big deal in Taiwan…
It’s basically Yankees (cuz of Wang) then Giants/Dodgers
Speaking of which, I really hope the Giants don’t go to Taiwan to open next season. After a WS run, I think it’s a terrible idea, and the playoff share is way more than the money they would make from going on the trip.
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Why Giants? I get Dodgers, but the Giants have never had any Taiwanese players. I believe Murakami, Shinjo and Yabu are the only Asians to ever play for San Francisco.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
/asian father joke
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Uematsu!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Geno Espineli!
Also half each of Travis Ishikawa, Dave Roberts, and Tim Lincecum.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Clever how they picked this photo
The one Giants player with an Asian surname.
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Die San Francisco Giants gewannen das World Series
Verflixt um die deutsche Sprache und ihre Fremdwörter!
The San Francisco Giants are the 2010 World Series Champions, and I WAS THERE.
At home. To watch it. On my television. And I cried.
Ausgezeichnet!
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SI commemorative issue
I had been only vaguely aware of its existence, much less planning on getting it. But lo and behold it was sitting there on discount at CostCo. It has lots of purty pictures. Shiny! So I bought it. It has prose, but I doubt I’ll even read it.
lol "SI" and "prose"
don’t I remember seeing Verducci’s name on the cover? You’re home free.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Well . . .
The issue has a reprint of a 1958 article about the splash the Giants were making in their new hometown (in contrast to the disappointing Dodgers). So there is some classic writing.
They also reprint the Lincecum cover story from two years ago. Not classic SI, but pretty good for the modern day.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Nov 5, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
these are not the droids I'm looking for- I'll move along
I think that’s different than the one I saw covers posted to in the postgame thread (maybe the regular issue and not the special).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The regular issue that is supposed to hit stands today . . .
Has the picture of Buster and Wilson about to hug after the last out, and has a title of “Feels So Good”. Is only besmirched by a banner saying “NFL Midseason Report.” I’d paste the cover from the CNNSI website, but I’m too lame to have ever made links that work on this site.
The commemorative issues is 100% baseball and has many full page photographs and a photo essay about greatest SF and NY Giants.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Nov 5, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. The commemorative issue is not so much 100% baseball as it is 100% Giants. Those full-page photographs are mighty enticing. I guess that’s the “Illustrated” part of Sports Illustrated.
Do you know where I can purchase the commemorative version?
I’ve been waiting for the regular to come out and didn’t even know they had another version devoted to the Giants. I live in NY though so I’m not sure how likely they are to sell it :(
Apparently that's the 11/02/2010 edition
But i have not seen that anywhere. I just saw the 11/1/10 NFL concussion edition then the 11/8/2010 edition with Buster and Wilson on the cover.
Yeah, this is the thing that I picked up. I know you can get it at least at the Richmond CostCo! I’d presume that most bookstores and newsstands would have it.
Hmm not in NY thus far.
I shall call my friends in CA to go out and search. Thanks for the heads up. It looks too sweet to miss.
I got one from CostCo yesterday, has some good articles and pics.
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We were at Richmond Costco yesterday...
And my wife threw in that SI issue into the cart when I wasn’t looking, and she hates baseball, or I guess rather me paying attention to it while I could be paying more attention to here. Go figure?
That’s not the Costco I bought it at.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They say the best moves are the ones you don't make
I was never given a contract by the San Francisco Giants.
The San Francisco Giants won the World Series.
Therefore, mine is the Greatest Non-Contract in the History of Professional Sports.
You’re welcome.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Nov 5, 2010 1:05 PM PDT reply actions
Remember last winter
The Giants were thinking of trading for Kouzmanoff. That would’ve moved Sandoval to 1st and Huff is not signed. Kouz had a .283 OBP this year.
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Oof
He never had a good OBP, but he did hit 20 HR in Petco in 09. His falloff was scary.
I bet the A’s get Mark Reynolds.
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I could definitely see that
I could also see Reynolds falling off the table. But Towers has said that he wants to cut down on the K’s
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Mark Reynolds this year
Set an all time record for most HR in a season with a AVG under .200.
Record breaker!
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His nickname was (maybe still is)
Special K. Because he when he comes to bat, it’s either special or a K
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I honestly don’t see how the Diamondbacks could strike out more than they did this year.
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It would be difficult
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Hey, it worked this season!
Forget signing free agents, just play through the season and obtain other teams rejects.
That trade actually made sense
I mean Pucetas was gonna be DFA’d this winter, so why not gamble? Playing him over Ross though…
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At first I was like ‘leftymalo usually writes much better than that’…
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This moment...THIS single moment was the reason why we won the world series
by djfivenine on Nov 5, 2010 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 11 recs
Bochy made Jazzy look tiny… probably some sort of optical illusion.
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omg omg omg omg almost tops the Thong reveal at the parade!
Additionally Pablo cracking up about the dance in the background is the best thing ever.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Never not worth a laugh.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree, it was seconds before that
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"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
To teach the prospects dance moves!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he said prospects.
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The first time I saw this,
I was trying so hard not to laugh out loud in class.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
But Jose Sandoval is a crowd favorite!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions
lolololololololol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
instead of beaning Fielder
we should have just waited for some Jazz against the Brewers, and had him do that dance down the third base line
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 5, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dance off!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Worst of all, we beaned him with a Zito fastball…
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
New Extra Baggs on offseason moves
Mostly a summary of this afternoon’s conference.
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What I really don't get
Is how Sabean rejects the idea of going out and getting FA help, but then says “we’ll see” about Carl Crawford, who is likely to be the most expensive non-Cliff-Lee free agent…
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Science, of course
Sabean said in terms of free agents, the priority is to get more left-handed.
They could be Giants...but not really.
dear god, the Chicago Cubs re incarnated
/signs Milton Bradley
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Rowand for Bradley!
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Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Ross RF
Bonds LF
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Dude could probably still put up a .400 OBP. He certainly looks like he’s still in great shape – if anything, a bit thinner than we last saw him.
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Dan Syzmborski did a ZiPS projection for Bonds in 2011
.228/.377/.423
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Because you still cannot trust a word of what Brian Sabean says.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
he probably doesn’t want to show his hands too much
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“Sir, I believe I saw Brian Wilson wearing them on Jay Leno’s show the other night”.
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"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you really want your GM to go out and honestly lay out the team’s plans to the press?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Just ask Bengie.
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lulz
Werth hates hitting at AT&T Park
That’s why you sign here dummy… you get to bat against the visiting team’s pitchers instead.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he would change his mind
if only someone explained to him, yeah your HRs might go down, but those league leading doubles with go up and some of them will turn into Triples.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Dunno . . .
Would that be true for a RHB? I haven’t paid enough attention to Werth to know whether he can regularly go the opposite way into Triple Valley. Of course, AT&T is not the huge pitcher’s park that the MSM believes it to be. It’s pretty neutral actually, and not terrible for a RHB. It’s a miserable HR park for a LHB not named Bonds, of course.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Nov 5, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
“I haven’t paid enough attention to Werth to know whether he can regularly go the opposite way”
I have, and he can.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
AKA 27 home runs minus three balls into the alley, and three balls off the bricks. Perhaps minus more than that.
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Compare with Huff:
http://www.hittrackeronline.com/parks/Huff_Aubrey_2010_scatter.jpg
More balls into the RCF gap, but he has much more power to right field than Werth; the counterpoint would be that Huff gets more loft on his home runs, which is a big factor in getting it over the wall, obviously.
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Wait
Are you saying Carl Crawford has more power to right field than Aubrey Huff?
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I think he's saying that he would be affected as much as one would think
Considering the success Huff had
Oh, wait, I misread
That’s not what you’re saying at all, you’re saying crawford has more power to right.
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Which is fine, and true, of course
You always have more power to your pull field.
But Werth has a lot more power. Period. And more plate discipline.
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cool glasses, jayson.
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I'll put this down in the
“the librarian look is not hawt on guys” file.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions
FWIW, Crawford’s average home run distance was considerably further than Werth’s in 2010 (411 to 396), and of Werth’s 27 HRs, Hit Tracker rated 11 of them as “just enoughs” and 4 as “lucky.”
Of course, it doesn’t at all factor balls that make it out of the park, but the argument could be made on either side.
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I really don't think the argument that Crawford is a better hitter than Werth
Can be made on either side. Werth is better.
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The argument wasn’t who is the better hitter. The argument was who has more power.
And I’m not convinced that Werth has more power. This is just debate for the sake of debate, by the way.
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I don't think
That you can explain away the difference between Werth’s career ISO, .210 and Crawford’s, .148, with park factors.
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It all depends on how you define “power.” I am talking about the ability to hit the ball out of the ballpark. If you’re going to use a metric that’s blind to how the balls are actually struck, then yeah, park factors play a big part in it, especially when Werth has a career FB% over 40%.
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Yeah, but how much of that do you attribute to luck, and how much of that do you attribute to power? 20% HR/FB seems abnormally high to me.
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Over the course of a career?
Most people aren’t “lucky” over the course of a career as long as Werths… that’s more “skilly”.
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And frankly, the issue of who is better may wind up being irrelevant, given the issue of payroll. The issue may well be who is the more valuable hitter relative to the salary they will command. And given that Werth switched his agent to Scott Boras, this chances of signing in San Francisco probably went from slim to less than zero. Sabean and Boras have not played nice since the Zito contract; pursuing Crawford is probably a more worthwhile investment in terms of effort.
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Sorry to chime in...
but for what it’s worth, we had all resigned ourselves (very begrudgingly) to the fact that Werth was not coming back and once the Uber-Shyster Boras got involved, we knew it was all but done.
And yet in the last few days, the underground rumblings are that Rube is planning on moving Ibanez (which will mean eating some of his salary) & Lidge as well as some other pieces to free up enough money to pay Werth’s sure-to-be-painful contract for the next year until more money comes off the books in 2012.
Whether that will happen or not, it means that we’re at least in the running (which the phan-base would not have thought possible just a week ago), which at the VERY least means that if we DON’T sign him, whoever does is going to pay out the wazoo.
Rube won’t go all-in on a bad contract for him (he already satisfied his “that contract will bite you in the arse” quota on Howard’s deal), but if he makes a serious attempt for him and Werth signs elsewhere, then it’s a Vince McMahon Guaran-damn-tee that the winning bidder will have overpaid.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Nov 6, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
i can’t blame him, either; Werth is way more valuable than Ibanez, and on both sides of the ball. Plus, as the Giants made clear during the NLCS, there are certain disadvantages to having a lineup that’s too heavy on lefties. With Brown coming down the pipe for you guys, you need Werth’s bat to maintain some balance in your lineup.
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I’m looking at what it takes for a LHB not named Bonds to hit home runs at AT&T park.
Crawford gets good distance on his dingerz to RF, as the graph shows – much better than Werth, in any case – but he has a low elevation angle on a lot of them. 7 of his 19 home runs had an (admittedly arbitrary benchmark) angle of less than 25 degrees, and it’s been speculated that the higher the ball goes, the more likely it is to clear the wall because of air currents. So it’s quite possible that Crawford would have trouble clearing the wall in right, but unlike other LHB that would just fly out harmlessly, you know that Crawford could cause some havoc knocking balls off the bricks.
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I think a left handed hitter will almost always lose more from AT&T than an righty
And when you add the fact that Werth is just a much better hitter all around…
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Your statement is absolutely true. But I think that going from CBP to AT&T will have a pretty noticeable impact on Werth, as well.
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He hit 9 HRs on the road this year, including 2 at Chase Field, 1 at Yankee Stadium, and 1 at Coors. He definitely got some help from the parks he was playing in.
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Single season H/R splits, eh?
In 2008 Werth had a .887 OPS on the road and only a .835 OPS at home!
But again, over his career, he has very normal home/road splits.
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This is all quick and dirty, as you can tell. I don’t have career statistics, especially situational ones, in my back pocket.
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Try that again
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lulz
is that one below the 45 line a bad call? Gary Darling ftw!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Crawford would give us more speed. Personally, I would sign neither. Save your money boys because here is the next Giant Minor league phenom who will be our every day leftfielder by June:
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Nov 5, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
am I the only one who thinks
this really isn’t a factor for anyone? Say the giants offered Werth a couple million more than the nearest competitor… is he really going to take less money because his HR totals might be a bit less?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that the main reason LaRoche turned down the big contract offer this past off-season? Not that he knew the offer he’d end up with would be that much less than the initial offer, but if I’m remembering it right, it seems like it can play out that way sometimes.
Sure, but
LaRoche was only going to sign for 1-2 years, and he’d have to go find another job after that and use his numbers to get that job.
Werth would be here for 4-5 years, and probably wouldn’t be as worried about finding his next job.
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Yeah, that’s a really good point. I was just thinking about it generally, but one would hope it wouldn’t matter in this specific case. I guess his agent just throws it out there to try to drive up the price.
Speaking of agents, I wonder how many of them actually have a good understanding of actual park factors (and not just general perceptions of a hitter’s park/pitcher’s park). I’d hope it would be most of them, but a lot of things that get said in the off-season often suggest otherwise (unless, again, it’s all just some hand-waving for the media in the hopes of getting better deals).
I think
to the extent that mattered before, and I’ll take Huff at his word that it did for some, I bet thinking about playing behind the pitching displayed in the World Serious might change a few minds.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember every series the Phillies have played in SF for the past three years Werth cries like a baby about how big the yard is.
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
Pretty much
He’s pretty vocal to the press about how he gets ATT’ed all the time.
And then that one game with his bullshit chalk shot happened.
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I think the fact that we won it all this year will make that go away. A lot of hitters are probably looking at our team going “If that team just had a few more hitters they would be the favorite every year.”
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I really like the sound of that.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
you know what's scary
that’s not even far from the truth. This team could easily become Phillies West or 2010s version of the 1990s Atlanta Braves. Just think, the 21st Century Red Sox WITHOUT the Douchy-ness!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
I think there would be plenty of douchiness from the fans of any team’s possible dynasty, including ours.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Oh yes.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
There were plenty McCoven even this year calling Wilson and Zito “douches”.
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
Says you, douche.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The White Sox don’t have douchey fans, but they really didn’t come too close again after ‘05. The Marlins don’t have douchey fans, but the Marlins also don’t have fans.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Actually, ask some black players who have to play OF in Chicago.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
that's really more assholish than douchey
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't most Sox fans like AJ?
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the payroll already is forecasted to be over $100 million for the first time.
"And that $100-plus does not count specially our interests, which is both Huff and Uribe," Sabean said. "The payroll obviously is going to be north of where it is now with the positions to fill."
Based on walking around San Francisco and seeing the long lines in front of the Dugout Stores over the past few days, it’s safe to say the Giants will pull in an extra $5-10 million in merchandise sales from this World Series run. I don’t expect money to be an issue.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
And lets be real about the team being in the red before the WS run.
Sure the club it self would have lost 5-10 M without the run but the owners would have lost a dime since they are paying themselves back for the money they loaned to pay the ball park!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would they have lost money?
According to Forbes valuations the Giants had operating income between $19 and $23 million each of the last 3 years prior to 2010. The yearly debt service is supposed to be around $15-18 million.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
if the past year has taught us anything as baseball fans
it’s taught us never to trust when baseball teams say they’re not earning enough money.
The mortgage is a convenient excuse to keep payroll down. The Giants are doing just fine financially, I’d stake everything I own on that.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
this
and AFAIK every time a team’s financials slip out that’s what turns out to be the case.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
$100 million would probably be what it would take to bring everyone back (minus Renteria) at reasonable costs…My previous estimate:
Giants have committed 77 million (thanks Rowand/Zito for $32 million)
Need to resign: Huff, Burrell, Torres, Jonathan Sanchez, Romo, Lopez and Panda (also Ishi and Nate but they’re making the minimum)
My plan:
1) Resign Sanchez to a 3 year $24 million ($8 million)
2) Resign Huff to a 2-3 year $14-21 million ($7 million)
3) Resign Burrell to a 1 to 2 year $3/6 million deal ($3 million)
4) Sign Torres to a 2-3 year $10-15 million ($5 million)
5) Sign Romo to a 2-3 year $3/4.5 million ($1.5 million)
6) Sign Panda to a 2-3 year $2/3 million ($1 million)
7) Sign Lopez to a 2-3 year $1/2 million ($1 million)
Total: $26.5 million…($103.5 million)
Only change
Ross for $5 to 6 million a year instead of Burrell at $3 million
If Giants sign both…it would push the payroll to about $110 million…
I know this was mentioned last time but I forgot
Why is Pablo on that list?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Arb guys seem very high
Torres is first year arb eligible, Sanchez 2nd year. What would they get in arb? I’d guess maybe $2M for Torres and maybe $4-5M for Sanchez. I would think for a multiyear deal something more like $3M per for Torres and maybe $6M per for Sanchez.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Sanchez made 2.1 million in 2010…Cain got a 3 year/27.25 million deal earlier this year…I would think Sanchez would get close to that…
Torres is harder to gauge…he’s had one great year but the question going forward is whether he will be as good…I hope there’s no arb and Torres signs a 2/3 year deal for $8-15 million (I mean DeRosa got $6 million)
I like Sanchez but he hasn’t earned the paycheck Cain has.
Cain’s bWAR the last 4 years: 3.9, 4.0, 5.1, 3.9.
Sanchez: 0.7, 1.2, 3.4.
Cain has proven to be reliable, Sanchez has yet to prove it.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
And that is the case that will be made in Sanchez’s arbitration hearing, if it goes to that. Minus the fancy stats, of course.
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I doubt it will
since the Giants don’t seem to like going that route. I’d expect them to offer him a 2-3 year deal at around $6M per.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
No raise for Sanchez, yet
Aside for what arb would give him. Why? He has to be tradeable, preferably to offset the amount of cash we’d have to send with some kind of salary dump. Right now, given his performance and controllability he’s almost worth Rowand money, and conversely Rowand at this point is worth about what Sanchez is being paid.
Face facts: Zito isn’t going anywhere until 2013 and if we can deal him at all it will likely be mid-season 2013 to a deep pockets club that needs one more starter to make th playoffs. Bumgarner will probably still be here and Wheeler should be ready by then. So out of the other three — Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez — which two do you want to keep?
Based on performance to date, it probably isn’t Sanchez. So assuming you keep Lincecum and Cain for as long as you can (and that presumably means until Zito’s money is off the books and you’ve got $20M in play again) plan on Lincecum and Cain costing somewhere above $17M apiece for 2012 and 2013.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
Lookout Landing is still pretty great.
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/11/5/1796256/miguel-olivo-was-a-blue-jay-for-an-hour-and-a-half
Also this bit made me laugh as well:
Additionally, with the Marlins in 2006, Olivo drew nine walks in 127 games, four of which were intentional. He also struck out 103 times. That strikeout-to-unintentional-walk ratio of 20.6 is the worst of all time, with Shawon Dunston’s 13.5 from 1997 sitting in second place.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
The Mariners should just give the Giants King Felix and Ichiro
and Sullivan should just root for the Giants.
Can we get a "Greatest Trade in History of Professional Sports?"
My nominee: Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski.
Reason: Without this trade, Brian Wilson and the Fear the Beard movement may have never had the chance to bring together an entire city in one of the most memorable runs in baseball history.
And Sabean knew it all along.
He's not retired...THANK YOU!
Okay...I know we're in tongue in cheek land
but the Pierzynski was pretty reasonable at the time…hindsight made it look awful…
I hated it at the time.
The only one I thought was worth giving up was Bonser. Nathan had just had a pretty great season, and I was real high on Liriano.
I can't help it...
No, no, no. Offense at the catcher’s position is a bonus, and trading three pitchers with upside for a catcher who could hit better than league average was not the right move. I hated it then, I hate it now.
Plus . . .
the Twins were going to non-tender A.J. if they couldn’t deal him. They had Mauer coming up.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Nov 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
At the time I thought we overpaid, not b/c AJ wasn’t good but b/c the TWINS NEEDED top trade AJ soon if they wanted to get anything in return b/c of Joe Mauer.
Also Buster Posey got a ring before Joe Mauer. Who would have thought!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 5, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
also
without that trade they might have given the catching job to Yorvit Torrealba, who might have been a league average catcher still playing for the Giants, thus blocking Posey or causing the Giants to draft someone else.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
I like Torrealba
but he’s not the kind of player that would block any prospect, ever.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Jackson Williams?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember he (specifically) didn't get along with AJ
I mean, basically no one did, but especially Williams
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with Brandon Medders throwing baseballs soaked in kerosene, the Giants won the World Series.
I KNEW my boy would make good someday!!!
MEH-dders! MEH-dders! MEH-dders!
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
I've been thinking just this for the past 3 days
Renteria’s ridiculous 2-year, $18 million contract…. SO WORTH IT.
Take that, McCoven of May 2010.
WHAT IF COME HERE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GIANTS?!?
No, I’m being serious.
/cancels account/
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Haters to the left
I can’t believe it’s come to this.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
Meant serious as in I started coming to Giants blogs to complain about the Giants. I’m not griping about Grant’s post. But now that they’ve won it all, I’ve got nothing to complain about. Like Grant said, all of my arguments are invalid. The Giants won the World Series.
I’ve got nothing left to say.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
lol no I mean I can’t believe it’s come to me not having anything to bitch about!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
lol world
The San Francisco Giants won the World Series.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
“The San Francisco Giants won the World Series.”
Yeah, right! As if! Next thing you’ll tell me the New Orleans Aints won the Super Bowl.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
TALL PEOPLE STOOD IN FRONT OF ME AT THE PARADE
COME ON GIANTS BRASS
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
Speaking of Giant Brass
BFVCE showed up last night wearing a new tie—a print with large trumpets, trombones, and sousaphones. I burst out laughing as soon as I saw him. I tried to explain GIANTZ BRAZS to him. I’m pretty sure he thinks I’m ready for the loony bin.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You two are clearly perfect for one another.
The GIANTS BRASS picture of the trombone, or whatever it was, sitting at the microphone, was always one of my favorite MCC pics.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Always hilarious.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t seen this, and I want to see it.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I believe it's this one
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 5, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec’d on principle.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Wrecked brass? Danielson has something to say about that...
Did I step on your trumpet
Or did I lump
Lump them in with you
I put your name on the ballot
‘Cause you should run
Though you don’t want to
I’ve been called the wet blanket
By cranks who I out rank with no thanks
Who do not have a
Clue
Yes I know how to be quiet just one more thing
I made you something
I wrote for you a lovely sonnet
’Bout two great friends
Your truly and you
We’ll grant just one social skill
Share a gesture of goodwill
How
I try
To relate
With my shipmates
Then I just start blurting out the first thing on my mind
How am I looking in your frilly bonnet
With the diamond on it
I guess I better go
I’m a people magnet
When I wear your jacket
Good luck getting this
Pleasing people
Is so predictable
We love you now
Then stab you how many
Time I obsess
And am making a mess
Failing to impress you
In all that I can’t do
Would you take care of my pet parrot
And feed him these
He speaks less than me
You speak so much about my casket
My body basket
Did I do something wrong
We’ll grant one more social clue
The landfill shall be home to you
All my ships
Sailing relatons
Have finally found
Who I am made out to be
Me and free of
Pleasing people
Is so predictable
We love you now
Then stab you how many
Time I obsess
And am making a mess
Failing to impress you
In all that I can’t
Be just who you’re made to be
Pappa is so mighty pleased with thee
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
The San Francisco Giants Cacophonic Orchestra announces it's dissolution.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The homeplate on my WS Champs hat is hella off-centered.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
by ResDog on Nov 5, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's the spirit!
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
The REAL Greatest Contract in the History of Professional Sports:
Brian Sabean.
If the Giants don’t sign Sabean, the Giants don’t sign Barry Zito to the Second Greatest Contract in the History of Professional Sports, in which case the Giants probably don’t win in the World Series in 2010.
“Wait, hold on. There’s still a Dodgers fan who hasn’t vomited after reading this. The San Francisco Giants won the World Series. There, that did it.”
I LOVE IT! I have a good friend who’s a Dodger fan (I know, I didn’t think it was possible either), and I have not heard from him since the Giants won. I’ve sent him numerous e-mails, links to articles, and photos, with no response whatsoever.
He’s a huge Miami Hurricanes baseball fan, so I sent him a photo of Huff and Burrell (two former Cane stars) celebrating at the parade, and the video of Huff going Zoolander. Still nothing. I have a mental picture of him opening my e-mails and fuming, unable to swallow the bile rising in his throat. Whenever I get on the Dodgers, he always used to throw back the “Where’s your ring?” jab. Guess he’s out of ammo now, so there’s nothing he can write back.
LOL SCHADENFREUDE!
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions
That's really douchey
I love it.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
OT: Shows you didn't like the first time you watched but now love
Daria. Didnt get it as a kid. Now I love it and watch it all the time. Plus the mom, Helen, is smoking hot. Louis griffin/ Amy wong status
uh oh. I can tell its time to watch cool world again to realize why statements like that are not ok
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT reply actions
Dude Daria was my shit as a teenager. Daria was my patron saint, as a fellow sarcastic brunette with glasses.
As for a show I didn’t like but now love, for me it’s Sex and the City. First time I watched it I thought WTF is this garbage? The first movie came out a few years ago and my BFF wanted to see it so I let her show me some of the episodes in Season 6 leading up the film. I came to realize the writing is quite good and that I really love the character of Samantha. So I was in. I caught up on all the episodes via Netflix and loved the first film.
The second film however…yuck. That’s one I can’t say I’ll want to see again.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the way daria actually changes as she gets older. In the beginning she was all sarcasm and sass but as she got older things got more serious and depressing.
Ive heard sex and the city is actually quite witty. I may give it a chance eventually.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 5, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone on the show grew as characters, Quinn especially. I was impressed with the way the writers handled her character changes. She was still Quinn at the end of the series but the intelligence and depth hinted at throughout the series came through in the end for her.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
the second or third to last episode when she admits daria is her sister and that its ok to be educated. That was awesome
I still think Jane is the most real person i have ever seen on tv.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Jane and Trent. I just love the whole damn show.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a show
but Super Troopers
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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From Broken Lizard
I didn’t like Beerfest the first time I saw it. I expected it to be as funny as Super Troopers, which is hilarious and one of my favorite movies of all time. I watched Beerfest a few times again and I think it’s one of those films that gets better upon repeat viewings. I knew it left a lasting impression on me when I successfully challenged someone to “chug in your face” at a marching band party.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Beerfest
Not as much as Super Troopers, but pretty good. Didn’t like the Slammin Salmon though
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Beerfest wasn't great...
But there were two sequences which I thought were pretty genius:
1) The “assembling the crew” sequence.
2) The beer goggling montage.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw Beerfest in theaters and left the movie saying, “That was kinda funny, but I can’t wait for it to come out on DVD.” Definitely one that gets better with repeated viewings.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
im like that with alot of cheezey comedies. Didnt like joe dirt at first. now love it. You know whats a really good comedy you wouldnt expect? Fired Up. About a football player who becomes a cheerleader to get laid. Actually some decently clever writing in it.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 5, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
My roommate actually owns that movie
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I’ve wanted to see Fired Up for a while. I was worried it was just stupid and not funny, but I’ll give it a chance now.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
well its still pretty stupid and predictable with your normal amount of sexist humor. but there are a few parts that made me laugh out loud pretty hard.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 5, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a dream last night
I was back at home in SF, I fell asleep watching the Giants play the Reds in game 4 of the World Series. When I woke up and read the Chronicle, they had printed all the baseball-related articles upside-down, and the Reds had won 4-3, tying the series at 2 games apiece. Despite excellent pitching from Madison Bumgarner, Reds short-stop Troy Tulowitski had hit a 1-out triple and then scored on a sacrifice fly. The Giants CF who failed to throw him out was a member of my World of Warcraft guild. Not my friend, but his actual character, a seven-foot tall elf thing.
Of all the incongruities, the one that made me realize it was a dream – there was no fucking way I’d go to sleep with the World Series on TV. So, I woke up and told myself “Fuck no, the Giants won the Series.”
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
OK, now why
My weirdest dreams are caused by (a) Mexican food or (b) Benadryl. I haven’t taken Benadryl after eating Mexican food, but I bet if I do I’d dream that Jonathan Sanchez hit a triple. With a bat. In a baseball game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Congrats, fellas.
I’d wanted to say as much after the NLCS, but I missed my window – as well as an entire week of my life – when I’d blacked out for 7 days from called strike three to when I awoke in a strange white room on whose walls I’d written “$125 Million…” over and over and over.
After the series, I figured I’d give it a few days to leave you guys to your deserved-exhuberance. That’s a time for shared fan celebration, not for outsiders.
I must admit to being surprised at the series… not so much the outcome, but rather the way in which the Giants dominated it from the jump.
I don’t mean this to sound like an insult, but I kept expecting your offense to regress to a more by-the-skin-of-their-nutsacks, “torturous” mean. Instead it was quite to the contrary – and to their credit – they just continued to thunder.
Your pitching is disgusting, no need to rehash that.
The most impressive performance of the whole postseason, however, belonged to one Mr. Bruce Bochy. Every manager plays lineup chess in the postseason – some to greater effect than others. I can’t ever remember a postseason in which every move, gamble or bit of strategy employed by a manager not only paid off in spades, but did so immediately in such a “Cut to the clip” fashion. I know you guys like to mock him lovingly and that during the season he’s made moves that have been downright Baker-esque, but no one can take away from him how intrinsic Bochy’s managing was to the team’s championship.
And if I could just give one bit of advice to the fans:
On MLB network radio and all over the blogosphere, I’m been seeing a lot of magnanimity on the part of Giants’ fans…
cut that shit out.
You guys were not picked to win.
at any time during the season.
in any series this postseason.
at all.
You have 6 outfielders who should probably be retired by now.
The left side of your infield weighs a metric ton.
and yet you guys DOMINATED the Texas Rangers for 5 games to the tune of a World Series Championship.
You get to dine out on that for a year.
OWN IT.
You’re no longer my least-hated NL team…
But you’re nowhere near the top. You played hard, played fair, played the right way, and did so with good nature & humor and without being douchebags or Mets-ian.
Congrats on the win, guys.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Nov 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
Oh trust me, we’re not that magnanimous. We’re just saving it up for opening day against the God Damn Dodgers. :D
Thanks, dude!
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 5, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I am looking forward to a deluge of trash talk, followed by angst over at TBLA
you know what’s weird though? I’m almost MORE excited to rub it in the Rockies’ fans faces than I am the Dodgers. Does that make me a bad human being?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but it does make Rockies fans douchebags.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Vitriol from Dodgers fans is to be expected, but I get more of the “well their drought was fun while it lasted” vibe from them rather than anger. The good folks at PR though are absolutely disguted that we won the WS. Paleface Destro actually dropped by TBLA to give them his “condolences” and drop his “weapons-grade stupid” line that he thinks is so clever. Douchebags indeed. Fuck the Rockies.
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
That guy really really hates the Giants for some reason, though all of them to a greater or lesser extent. I don’t mind that, but their reasons why are really silly. Apparently, we sit here all day talking about the humidor.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I kept expecting your offense to regress to a more by-the-skin-of-their-nutsacks, "torturous" mean.
You and me both. I said in a Facebook status update, if you told me that this November my writing would be on ESPN.com and the Giants would be World Series Champions, I’d have laughed in your face. None of the Giants winning was expected for me.
I hate the Phillies and it was good to beat them. It was good to challenge an excellent team and come out of the slugfest on top. While I still hate the Phillies, I never lost respect for them since the beginning of their run. I hope to see these two teams duke it out for years to come.
Thank you for the accolades! It’s a classy move in a world where we’ve had to deal with a lot of asshats and haters.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Your writing was on ESPN?
I am way out of the loop, apparently.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
and for money even
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m co-writing an A’s blog that’s part of Rob Neyer’s Sweet Spot blog network. It just went live this week and I haven’t pimped it out yet. I’m keeping it low-key aside from the initial mention I made here about a week ago.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 6, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't really hate the Phillies
I do however despise Rectumface. The rest of them are ok.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Shawn Michaels on Baywatch
Best GIF ever!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
honestly
we’d be less magnanimous, but we are kinda afraid they are going to take away OUR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.
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have a rec
for waiting a few days, although this kind of nice post is welcome anytime.
And I dunno about bats “thundering”, there were some rough bullpen outings there by TX. But just enough is good enough.
FWIW I don’t hate the Phillies at all. I bet I would in short order if the unbalanced schedule went away and the teams played more than 6 games per year.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
...or in another life.
btw:
+4815162342 for the Desmond GIF that is both awesome AND the most perfectly appropriate response to HBK.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Nov 5, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew someone would come up with a good response gif.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Classy opposing fan is classy.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 5, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
YAY!
You posted my favorite GIF. Love it, and thanks :)
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
When did that happen?
I must’ve been too busy watching the Giants win the World Series to notice.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Wait.
They won what?
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
In this alleged "World Series"
How many runs did Matt Cain allow?
Not any
if the rumors are to be believed.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Nonsense!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
What do you think I am st...
Are those my Grandparents?
Yes, they weren’t having fun
You think they’re having fun being catatonic in a closet?
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
Am I the only one?
Who wouldn’t mind if the Giants don’t really sign anybody big. I mean we need huff and uribe back. But a fit Sandoval would produce, and I truly think belt can have an impact as soon as next year. Plus the on going development of Posey will go along way.
CF Torres
2B Sanchez
LF Huff
C Posey
RF Ross
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
1B Belt
P
and of course you could mix and match depending on whos hot. And it would leave payroll open for deadline deals for the final push. And DeRosa, Schierholtz, Rowand, off the bench. The only guy I’d really want is Crawford but he’ll break the bank so he is not necessary.
you're not the only one
get me huff, uribe, and a shortstop and I’m a happy camper. The way I see it, the pitching is basically set, don’t need to do anything there. Offensively (if we do re-sign Huff and Uribe) we’d basically be no worse than last year, given that we’d have Ross, Posey and maybe DeRosa for a full season. If Sandoval can find his way back to being awesome or Belt comes up and dominates then so much the better.
Basically, I just want us to find a SS so we’re not banking on 1. Sandoval reverting to 2009 form (i.e. Uribe could slide to 3rd), 2. Uribe staying healthy all year, 3. DeRosa staying healthy, or some combination of the above.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
dude
I wouldn’t mind if they just firesaled the whole fucking thing Florida Marlins style.
We won. The World Series. And despite my comment a couple scrolls back, they are NEVER taking it away (thank god it’s not the NCAA).
Don’t sign Huff or Uribe? Fine!
Sign Francour? Go ahead.
Play Burriss at SS? Awesome.
Send Sandoval and Posey back to AAA for more seasoning! WHATEVER.
Trade Timmy and Matt Fucking Cain for Vernon Wells and Alex Rios! HA! YOU CANNOT HURT ME!
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by zenbitz on Nov 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I actually think the most important thing right now
is not to commit anymore stupid longterm money to veterans. For the next 2-3 years, fine, do what we need to do to contend. But when Rowand and Zito finally do come off the books we’re going to need that money to keep guys like Lincecum, Cain, Wilson, and Posey.
Other than that, if the Giants wanted to either go crazy on short term vets, or firesale for the future, I wouldn’t mind. We just won the WORLD fucking SERIES!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
We can be strong enough at the infield corners that I don’t see a downside to giving Belt another year in AAA to let him keep working on his game. Opening day starter in 2012? Sure, I’d be fine with that. As long as turns out as good as advertised.
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For what's its worth...I think Sabean/Giant front office
have changed somewhat from his/its Zito/Rowand days in that they are less reactionary than before.
Many of the trades/signings prior to Rowand/Zito were largely in reaction to some criticism or perceived weakness on the team (AJP, Alfonso, Benitez, Morris, Zito, Rowand, etc.) This lead to overpayment due to over-eagerness…
Sabean/Giants held on to Sanchez/Bumgarner at the trading deadline when the entire world was screaming for a slugger and traded/picked guys with low costs but potential (Ross, Burrell, Lopez, and even Guillen)…Hopefully the trend continues
I tend to think Magowan liked to garner offseason headlines by signing well known players to ‘face of the franchise’ type of deals, in order to get season ticket holders to renew.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this was definitely responsible for Zito
not sure about Rowand… but the signs on Zito were there from the beginning. The press conference announcing the signing was more Magowan talking than Sabean, IIRC. Now, maybe Sabean stood by and let it happen, or maybe it happened despite his objections, but I do think he gets too much blame on that one.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to say something about Neukom too
The one different factor in the FO this year was Neukom, and suddenly you have all sorts of different/radical moves happening. I don’t mean to suggest Neukom made them all happen, but he may have not cockblocked the cockblock of Cody Ross, for example, or may have said “so, I was watching this Molina fellow yesterday and…”
And no, whatever role Magowan had in the other deals I believe Neukom will have no part of that, especially after winning the World Serious. I’d like to think he’s a voice of reason for even the re-signing of people like Burrell.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I love this team so much it hurts...
On Monday morning, I woke up in a cold sweat…what if Brooks Conrad didn’t make 37 errors in the NLDS? What if Jonathan Sanchez was Jonathan Sanchez on the last day of the regular season? What if we never traded John Bowker for Javier Lopez and Ryan Howard hit 10 homers against us in the NLCS? What if we fired Bochy and Sabes when EVERYONE was calling for their heads in July/Aug? What if Madison Bumgarner was human and not half android, half fire breathing dragon? What if Timmy decided to get high before game 5? What if Brian Wilson had the Machine shave his beard (tipping the “balance of fear” in favor of TX)? In the end, none of these delusional thoughts altered the Time/Space continuum and the San Francisco Giants did in fact win the world series (I have the Sports Illustrated next to my bed to prove it).
For the many of us, the torture started while listening to the sweet sounds of Hank Greenwalds voice announcing Bobby Thompson and Jose Uribe turning a miraculous double play or the many nights where we wrapped ourselves in blankets at the “Stick” while battling the elements, only to see William Van Landingham give up 6 runs in the 4th…All those summers cut short while trying to figure out why “Marvin Bernard isn’t the everyday player that he seems to be when coming off of the bench to pinch hit”, or why we couldn’t win it all in 89’, 97’ or 02’…these are the reasons I can’t sleep at night. As lifelong Giants fans, we were conditioned to have a healthy degree of skepticism whenever “victory” entered the room. For my part, I admit that I didn’t think that the Giants could get “it” done, although I was positive that something was “inside”…just couldn’t be sure what it was (Magic?). What I never considered and what seems abundantly clear today is that I was missing the point. What we have learned in the last month is that winning championships isn’t about collecting the greatest number of individual contributors or chasing the highest paid free agents in the offseason (Giants 2 highest paid free agents collectively got 1 hit this postseason). The Yankee’s and Red Sox don’t have it and might never understand that magic can’t be bought…It can’t be manufactured either. Giants fans know this lesson well. We smelled the strong stench of victory in 2002 from a team made up of star players chasing individual accomplishments, and we were shamefully rebuffed from the pearly white gates of destiny.
Last night, I sat quietly, alone in my living room, cracked open an ice cold beer and pushed play on my Tivo. Game 5, bottom of the ninth, Wilson on the mound and 2 outs…this can’t be real can it? As I watch the final pitch slide past Nelson Cruz and into the glove of Buster Posey, it finally hit me. The San Francisco Mo%&$Fu#ing GIants Won the WORLD SERIES!!! Mondays win was an early Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanza present from Timmy, Huff, Ross, Renteria and Posey, Mad Bum and BWheez, for all the Giants fans up and down the West coast, those that wore the uniform and for others like the great Rod Beck who are longer with us.
What set this team apart is indicative of the culture that fostered this mighty triumph, the beating heart of a city and a region that is unequivocally the greatest place on earth. It swells from deep within the city limits and is equal parts organic, eccentric, passionate and ultimately beautiful, a diverse web of incongruous intersections, and winding streets filled with people of different colors from hundreds of cultures and thousands of faraway places. Some might even call the people of San Francisco “castoffs and misfits” who now can proudly add the title of “World Champions” to their collective civic pride.
I will never forget the look of unimaginable joy on the face of my 83 year old grandmother who used to take my mother and uncle to Seal Stadium to watch Willie Mays patrol the outfield. A family friend, nearly inaudible after a night of celebrating, who told me that he has either watched or listened to nearly every game, collected every Bobblehead and never missed opening day at the park for the last 40 years. All of us, whether we have been fans for 50 years or 50 minutes extract a level of elation and euphoria that is inversely proportional to the amount of pain and suffering that you have personally witnessed from your time as a Giants fan. Since we have endured 54 years of “accrued” Torture, it’s going to be hard to top this…
While the parade made its way from Montgomery to Market St. and the trophy rested in Bochy’s hands, shimmering from beams of brilliant autumn sunlight, the fans were given a well deserved last chance to thank our hero’s. As the players are surely now on their way to places like Scottsdale AZ, Bellevue WA or Hickory NC, to be with their friends and families for the winter, I could not stop thinking about the ride they gave us, the 13th month of the year (Orange OctVember) and the vivid memories that we will never forget. The day before the mid-term elections, where everyone, if only for a moment, forgot about liberal or conservative, red or blue. On that day in San Francisco, the beautiful city by the bay, the only colors that mattered were the orange and black.
All your torture are belong to us
"Breaking balls are for girls" - John Bowker
by Trustussignedtorture on Nov 5, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Actually, if Tim got high before game 5
He would’ve pitched at least a shutout. At LEAST.
Need more proof...
All your torture are belong to us
"Breaking balls are for girls" - John Bowker
by Trustussignedtorture on Nov 5, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
Thank you...That is exactly what I was looking for...
All your torture are belong to us
"Breaking balls are for girls" - John Bowker
by Trustussignedtorture on Nov 5, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants are World Series Champions!
Nothing else matters!
Go Giants!
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"We deserve this" Sabean
"Not here to make friends, I'm here to win games" - Bruce Bochy
Q: "This doesn't happen every year." Posey: "Why not?"
"Do it again Baby!" Huff
"Let's get back to work and make another run at it" Posey
"Be a lot of happy" - Juan Uribe
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 5, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions
Sabes on Belt (KNBR)
likes the ribeyes, but wants him to cut down on K’s
won’t put too much pressure on him to help big club in 2011
probably won’t be on opening day roster, but won’t be down in AAA for long
by TimLaser and MattyC on Nov 5, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
probably wants him to cut down on walks too
doesn’t want him to clog the bases
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
He's starting the Posey treatment early
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Meh, we’re talking about a player who drastically altered his swing last year and rocketed through the minor league system. Unlike Posey, where it was clear he was the best option available from the beginning, I can see an argument that the team is better served by letting Belt further refine his swing and settle in at AAA before promoting him to the bigs.
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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
oh i agree
Belt is teh awesome. All I’m saying is that unlike Buster, I think it actually might make sense to give him a little more time.
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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Giants are actually in a great position with this one
If they re-sign Huff they’ll have the versatility to go into the season with Huff at first and DeRosa and Ross in the corner outfield spots, but if one of them gets hurt (or if someone else gets hurt and DeRosa has to move to the infield), then Belt can be the first guy called up from the minors to take over. Just one of the benefits of having a number of guys (Uribe, DeRosa, Huff) who can play multiple positions reasonably well.
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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 5, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
flagged
I have seen enough of Mr. Posey to believe that saying “the Posey Treatment” is akin to saying “sign a Bonds-type hitter Giants brass”.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Sabes loves him some Super-2s.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
If he “won’t be down in AAA for long,” that tells me that Sabean intends to add him whenever he feels he’s ready. Service time didn’t stop him from calling up Posey or Lincecum early, and I doubt it will stop him now.
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Was there urgency to bring up Lincecum in 2007?
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Also noticing some love for Culberson
Keith Law and Baseball America talked about him…
Is he a 2B, SS, or 3B or all three?
2B, which probably means he either doesn’t have the range for SS, or doesn’t have the arm for 3B, or both. Still, he projects to be a solid offensive second baseman, and hopefully will be ready when Sanchez’s contract expires after 2011.
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I've heard he has enough arm strength for 3B
But he has really weird throwing mechanics which makes 2B easier for him
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Hm, I’d be interested to hear about his throwing mechanics, actually. I love that kind of nitty gritty stuff.
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I have my BA prospects handbooks at home :(
But I’m pretty sure that’s (part) of what caused a move to 2B
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What are people's thoughts on Magglio to play left?
He’s a Boras guy though..
I think I'm jump on (lead?) the trade for DeJesus bandwagon
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I wanted DeJesus pretty bad last season
But I want to see him play first before we trade for him.
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He broke his thumb right?
Do those usually have lingering effects?
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Yeah, probably true
but he’s fairly cheap (6M), projects as a Type A FA and is a good all around player.
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Absolutely
But trading for him in the offseason seems verrrrry risky to me. Then again, maybe we could get him cheaper.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Eh, as long as we don't give up Belt or Wheeler I'd be happy with the deal
I think Runzler + a mid level prospect makes sense for both teams
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Thanks for posting
Add that to the “proof that this is real” column.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
omg
The President of the United States said Edgar’s name!!!
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
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Moar Machine:
skip past Anne (if you want to)
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Why would anyone
want to skip past Anne?
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Nov 6, 2010 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Buffering… buffering… buffering…
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by troymccluresf on Nov 6, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless I misheard what Sabean said with Tom a few minutes ago on KNBR, he said that It’s highly likely that Belt and Crawford are on the Posey plan for next year. I know for sure he said that about Belt, and I swear he said the same for Crawford, too.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 5, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions
I really think Crawford needs a full year in the minors
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I’m in this camp. There’s only one Crawford that I want to see on the Giants’ big league roster in 2011…
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I agree
I mean, we all have hope, but his career minor league OPS is like .730
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I said this the other day
But right now, I have trouble envisioning him getting a .650 OPS
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Dude hit .236/.332/.366 last year between A and AA
I have no idea where everyone’s hopes about him came from.
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He’s like Darren Ford, but with FIELDINGZ instead of SPEEED
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Not that I advocate bringing him up, shortstop is the most FIELDINGZ intensive position….
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Who was it that said
Crawford would actually be a decent hitter if he stopped trying to hit HRs and just tried putting the ball in play. If that is the case I think he’ll be fine once it gets through to him that he needs to stop trying to hit for power when he really can’t.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Crawford is a major league defensive shortstop with a minor league bat...ala JJ Hardy. The hope is he develops into an above average offensive shortstop.
Look at the free agent pool. There isn’t much there and there aren’t many superstar shortstops coming up in any team’s system. With our pitching staff, a stellar shortsop with defensive skills will be a must and we will need to hope the offense comes from the other positions. Someone was mentioning Jhonny Peralta as a free agent because the Tigers declined his option. I have seen this guy play, he hits well but would kill the Giants pitching staff with his lack of range and limited skills.
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by Penitentiary Face on Nov 5, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, uh
Hardy has an OPS under .700 over the past two years – not the kind of guy who you want to be counting on as your SS as the future.
Re-sign Uribe.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Or failing that, trade for Stephen Drew.
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Drew
Will cost us Bum or Sanchez at least. No thanks.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
A decent shortstop is not worth a #2 or #3 starter. They might ask for it, but Sabean would never make that trade.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Which is exactly why I don’t see them trading for Drew.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
You are aware that Stephen Drew would have been the Giants’ third-best position player by WAR last year, .6 below Huff and a full 2-win improvement over Uribe?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
and
this is why he would be costly. The whole point of that is to fill in or improve on Uribe, and he’s going to get paid in the first place by someone, because SS are valuable anyway an moreso this offseason.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:40 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s limited by arbitration. He will cost less on the books than Uribe will. Up to half as cheap.
Worth a Sanchez.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I meant costly in terms of trading for him
If the FA class is thin then the trade market should be tight as well. I’d worry less about trading Guapo if there were anyone in Fresno or on the 40 man that looked like a 5th starter.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I would do Sanchez for Drew
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His OPS was .714 this year, actually. 2009 was the only year of his career he ever fell below .700.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Also, this is a silly argument for re-signing Uribe. He’d had an OPS below 700 for three years straight when we signed him, y’know.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Yeah, I realized what you meant after I replied. Oops!
The point about Uribe still applies, though. .712, .698, .678, .682 in the years before we signed him. Plus Hardy is younger than Uribe was when we signed him, and probably a better defensive shortstop as well.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Yes, Uribe's numbers before we signed him were bad
But now they’re good! And going forward, I’d rather have the guy with two good years playing SS for me than the guy coming off two bad ones.
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In a vacuum, that’s not a bad point. But there wasn’t much of a difference between the two last year (Uribe was 0.8 WAR – but that’s probably largely a function of his getting 200 more PA), and Hardy’s three years younger – and, I’m assuming, will be cheaper.
I’m only interested in Hardy as a scrapheap pickup, mind you. If he ain’t cheap, forget it.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
It's an interesting thought
But I’m not convinced that Hardy will be non-tendered, and I’d rather re-sign Uribe than trade for Hardy.
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As mentioned below, Cot’s has Hardy listed as a free agent. At least one other site mentions him as a non-tender candiate, though, so I’m not sure what the deal is.
Definitely don’t trade for him.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
He’s not a free agent. Remember when the Brewers kept him down for a few months in 2009 to keep his service time down?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
hmm. I do sort of remember that, yes. Cot’s is usually pretty reliable for this kind of info, though. Maybe they messed up this time.
Anyway, if he is non-tendered, I’d kick the tires.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Oy, I would totally trade for him. I’d package Brandon Crawford and Charlie Culberson for him in a heartbeat.
28 years old, great glove, well above average bat for a shortstop (check the wRC+) — he’s a three-win player easy, maybe better.
Will Bill Hall be available?
If so, couldn’t we try him at third?
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Yeah he's a FA
I think he’s more of a platoon player at this point
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His defense has been good at third IIRC
And he had Pat Burrell power this year.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
One thing against him is that he is a RHH
And we’re already paying 6M to a RH utility guy
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Last year was the first time he hit for power since 2006, and he has a career OBP of .310. I’ll pass.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
How about the Kids in the Hall, playing the infield.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
In dresses.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
30 gritty veterans agree....
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Steve Lyons sez
It’s sad to say, but if the Dodgers are going to make any noise at all next year and beyond, they’re gonna have to play more like the Giants.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Unpossible
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
What's up?
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
Oh, Mehserle?
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
Still don’t understand how a veteran officer reached for his gun thinking it was his tazer…
Have never held a tazer but I would think there would be significant weight difference.
There is
It’s an excuse. It was either a) intentional, or b) he went completely crazy for a moment. No other explanation.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
People do weird, illogical things under extreme stress… like crazily stupid things. The proposition that he would pull out a gun and premeditatedly execute a suspect in front of dozens, maybe hundreds of hostile witnesses is not particularly believable. Cops take care of shit like that when nobody’s looking.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
http://sfist.com/2010/11/05/oakland_prepares_after_mehserle_sen.php
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I just realized
That the banner in the Cove during the playoffs was PRO-Mehserle. I had been assuming without thinking that it was about justice for Oscar Grant. What kind of jerks desecrate a playoff game with that garbage?
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
so i would like to speak with myself?
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
Nah, I'm way dorkier than that fashion maven
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
That boat was there for the last few weeks of the season too. Of course, being oblivious to local events, FOX and TBS focused their cameras on the boat’s American flag during renditions of anthems and GBA.
Oh jeebus
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
Yeah, that was terrible.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 5, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They had their crack research staff on it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope they can't find their way out of the crack
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have liked to see them try that at a Raiders game.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Nov 5, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that Meserle’s dad?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 5, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Ninja’d
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
When I went out in the cove for game 4 of the NLCS, the guy I went with said it was the work of Mehsele’s father.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The Baseball Gods...
Parted the thick fog and roiling clouds over the city of San Francisco, wondering where the beautiful city had disappeared to. They had no answer, for none could remember every shining down upon this beautiful little city. But they did not dwell on this, for they were taken aback by the City’s marvels. It was more beautiful than their own existence. They gathered around the opening in the clouds, peering down.
“We must bless this wondrous City,” said the elder God. “We have forsaken it far too long.”
And the sun shined brighter.
“Who shall we send down to preach our will?, spoke one of the lesser Gods.
The Gods looked at each, searching for an answer. Inevitably the answer dawned on who wasn’t having it.
“He Who Catches shall lead them. Where has he gone?”
“I believe,” said the lesser God, “he can be found in the shithole they call ‘Fresno.’”
“Bring him to me.”
by The Franchise on Nov 5, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Coincidence?
Time lapse video of Game one of the World Series on the Giants site.
It is 1:09 long. WHOA
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8007782&c_id=sf
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
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by GiantsBabe on Nov 5, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
that's pretty cool
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According to the Giant’s facebook, Murph is supposed to be on ABC sometime during this 5:30 show as the person of the week.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
Dang, only a few posts up and I missed it.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants won the World Series?
Next you will be telling me the Raiders sold out their game vs. the Chiefs and there is no blackout.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Wait did that 2nd thing really happen?
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BUT CLIFF LEE
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by troymccluresf on Nov 5, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
changing my answer
Cody Ross. If the Giants don’t claim him, he goes to SD and the Padres win the West handily.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
and with their strong starting rotation of Lat Matos, Clayton Dicks, and Tim Stouffers, the Padres easily beat the Braves, Phillies, and Rangers to win the World Series in this bizarro world.
But then, the Giants in my universe actually won the World Series. So maybe it’s me who’s living in the bizarro world.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Bobby Bonds:
August 4, 1964: Signed by the San Francisco Giants as an amateur free agent.
Without that contract, Barry is never Willie Mays’ godson, never yearns to be a Giant, and ATT Park is never built. Peter McGowan eventually relents in 2003 and sells the team to a Washington DC consortium.
Proud father of Barry Bonds.
For those staying home tomorrow
It’s Giants day on MLB Network:
10 AM – 1954 World Series highlights
10:30 AM – San Francisco Giants: Inside The Clubhouse: The Town Hall Meeting In-depth interviews with Giants executives, players and coaches before a studio audience of Giants season ticketholders
11 AM - San Francisco Giants: Inside The Clubhouse: Spring Training Part 1 An inside look at San Francisco Giants players and personnel in Scottsdale, Ariz., during Spring Training
11:30 AM -San Francisco Giants: Inside The Clubhouse: Spring Training Part 2 An inside look at San Francisco Giants players and personnel in Scottsdale, Ariz., during Spring Training
Noon – NLDS Rewind An abbreviated 2-hour version of Game 4 of the 2010 NLDS, San Francisco Giants @ Atlanta Braves
2 PM – NLCS Rewind An abbreviated 2-hour version of Game 6 of the 2010 NLCS, San Francisco Giants @ Philadelphia Phillies
4 PM – World Series Rewind An abbreviated 2-hour version of Game 5 of the 2010 World Series, San Francisco Giants @ Texas Rangers
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
by SFGuy on Nov 5, 2010 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And the coverage continues into Sunday with the 2 hour rewinds of every Giants postseason wins (they aren’t showing the losses).
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
and this all leads up to
the AFL game at 6PM, in which you can see Belt and Culberson, hopefully for more than an inning.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Jon Miller on NPR
Has this already been posted? If so, I apologize for wasting 2 seconds of your time. If not, here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131071956
It’s good stuff, but lacks what has become my holy grail: the actual ESPN radio call of either Renteria’s homer or the final out of game 5.
I’ve heard Miller’s call of the Renteria home run. It’s a rather generic “adios pelota”.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He has to put on an ESPN bias
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
He seemed to be a little shocked that it actually got out.
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If it was really ESPN bias
it would have been “goodbye baseball” instead of adios pelota. I was SHOCKED that he did the Adios, and it was awesome.
Also, the Giants won the World Series. That was awesome too.
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Nov 6, 2010 3:02 AM PDT up reply actions
So was I.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 6, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
lol NPR baseball fail
the Liebskin(ph)/Cain, Wilson and Huff Giants
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:48 AM PDT up reply actions
who wrote this transcript?
George Garagiola was working the game with him
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Interview with Cody on south florida radio
Lot of funny stuff in there:
http://www.790theticket.com/lebatard.aspx
Scroll down to the archive section under the big phone number, Cody’s interview is first on the list.
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HOME RUNS AND WESTERNS SUNS
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 5, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions
Kinky
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 5, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Turns out it may not be 'just a slashfic'
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
An idea
So recently I was reminded of a piece by Roger Angell, which was published in Late Innings in 1982. In it, he mentioned a fan (of the Red Sox, I believe) who wrote a poem for every day of the season and sent them all to Angell at year’s end. I’ve been mulling over the idea, and I’ve been thinking that I’d like to do that for next year. Maybe I’ll start a blog to put them on.
Thoughts?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
MMmmmMMmm Belt
johnmanuelba John Manuel
Speaking of good looks, Belt has 4 quality ABs 2nite w/SF, 2 BB and triple, plus he turned 3-6-3 very well. Looks athletic, strong & fluid
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whoooooooooo
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I can't wait for him to get the Posey treatment..
And have this entire site yell about it for the first two months next year as DeRosa or some mediocre free agent signing suck it up.
I think it's very different
Belt has nothing near the track record Posey did. I wouldn’t mind at all if they kept him down long enough to give us one more year of control.
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Plus, we probably won’t be starting Bengie Molina at 1st base.
If the Giants don’t get known quantities to start at 1B and LF, Belt will probably start the year with the big club.
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There’s no reason to.
He should stay down for the requisite month or so to get the extra year, then come up.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Outside of draft pedigree..
Belt actually demolished Single A and AA moreso than Posey. Granted Belt is a year older.
..and he plays 1B, and the sample size isn’t large, and, Pirates aside, a top-ten draft pedigree means a lot.
I would keep him at Fresno all year unless he starts hitting like Albert Pujols.
by wcw on Nov 5, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying I think he should be the opening day 1B
I just have a feeling he’s going to continue raking and we’re going to have some mediocre veteran gritty gamer playing. And this site will be yelling for Belt.
That gamer's thong led us to victory!
Ingrate!
by Murray, Present on Nov 5, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
By no means am I talking about Huff
It will be whatever shitty player we thrown in LF with Huff at 1b or Huff in LF with some shitty player at 1B
if he rakes for a month or two
and shows he’s got nothing left to learn by staying in AAA, by all means call him up. This is actually why I think re-signing Huff makes so much sense— he can handle 1B or LF, and adjust accordingly when/if Belt gets the call up.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 6, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Since Belt wasn't a Sept. call up
If he’s in the minors for like, 3 weeks we get an extra year of team control
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By Posey treatment, you mean a historically fast rise to an everyday starting job in the Majors?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 6, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Belted!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
looks athletic and fluid?
fap fap fap
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Baseball news + a Twinquiry
I was fooling around on Twitter, and the news came over the wire that Hisashi Iwa$#@a might be going to the M’s. I was sure that his name was Iwashita, but now it turns out it’s Iwakuma. You can’t say “kum” on Twitter? How will I start my Twitter porn empire?
Random question of the day
Why the hell did Livan Hernandez win WS MVP in 1997?
13.2 IP, 15 H, 9 R, 8 ER, 10 BB, 7 K, 5.27 ERA
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Because that’s all it takes for the Marlins to win a World Series, apparently.
Assholes.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I have no answer, but I’m marveling at the Game 5 line for Livan:
- 8 innings
- 6 runs (5 earned)
- 8 walks (!)
- only 2 Ks
- 142 pitches (!!)
(He began the ninth and the first two runners reached; Nen came in and let them both score.)
I know quality starts is a stupid stat and all...
But neither of his starts was a quality start. He didn’t even go six innings in his first one, and in his second he walked everyone in the universe and gave up a bunch of runs.
Moises Alou, on the other hand, had an OPS of 1.101
Weird.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Looking at stats from that series
There are at least 4 Marlins’ players who would have been a better choice for MVP than Livan: Alou, Sheffield, Edgar, and Charles Johnson.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 5, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Found this picture in an article
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2010/11/4/1792914/2010-mlb-season-in-review
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by GiantPain on Nov 5, 2010 9:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Uribe: Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive!
by Murray, Present on Nov 5, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I really like Ross
he has a lot of exuberance about him
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 6, 2010 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions
“Theese beefsteaks are tender! And the exuberance?”
“Insubstantial.”
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
"Hey guys! I'm floating away! Hey guys! Someone hold me down!"
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Until today, I have pretty much stayed away from posting because the threads have been so long. I do want to say that I am proud of your Giants, and that I had a gut feeling they were going all the way. I have watched the Cubs flounder with their high-paid players, and their formerly good manager, who seemed to be developing dementia, and I lost interest in them, as they repeatedly put lineups out that didn’t work. Then, the player who was being mis-used got traded to the Giants, and I knew they were on to something. You were being hexed (in your minds) by Eckstein, so Sabean went and got an even smaller, cross-eyed hobbit, who can put a hex on other teams. At first you won with him in the lineup, and then you won even when he was on the bench. The Giants won without a bunch of stars – just with that crazy quilt of characters, and you have earned bragging rights. I saw the 4 hour victory celebration on MLB TV, and it was a thing of beauty. The players seemed genuinely thrilled to be in the position they earned. One of the most gratifying sights was little Fontenot on that cable car, with his fiancee. He was so happy, and he usually shys away from cameras. There couldn’t have been a better way for him to impress his girl, and those little guys usually go all out to make a girl feel special. Watching those players left a real feel-good experience.
Thanks . . .
For stopping by to post. I’m sure everyone here (well, most) would love to see the Cubs end their own futility streak (assuming the G’s are unable to repeat, of course).
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Nov 6, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I think in keeping with the Cubs being the Cubs… they will lead the NL Central wire to wire in 2012, unfortunately the world will end in late October whilst the Cubs are up 3 games to none in the World Series.
by Merope on Nov 6, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
KLaw with the low blow
@keithlaw keithlaw
How many seats? #obvious RT @JaymeeSireCSN: Pablo Sandoval sitting courtside at Warriors game tonight. #sfgiants
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 5, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions
Have you seen Keith Law? If he wanted to hit above the belt, he’d need a ladder.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
pow! right to the kisser
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm getting to really hate this douchebag
Maybe it is a sign that we have arrived or something that D-bags like Law and that chucklehead at ESPN (that said that we were ruining baseball) keep taking shots at the Giants. Suck it D-bags, SF GIANTS WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Fantasy sports author for Rototimes and Fanball. Northern California sports fanatic.
To be fair, Law will take shots at anyone. He still provides the most insightful commentary on ESPN, though that might not be saying much.
he's a snarky commentator
he’s funny and he has half a clue about baseball (more than that, actually, IMO). I’ve got no problem that he doesn’t necessarily think Brian Sabean is the best GM in baseball because I tend to agree with that. In fact, I think he was very fair in giving him his due— said the team drafted well and Sabean did a very good job of putting good talent evaluators in place, but that the team also got somewhat lucky and the two weren’t mutually exclusive.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 6, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that Twitter is a mixed bag for Law, because his snark can be kind of excessive sometimes, but his coverage when condensed into meaningful articles or soundbites for the TV tends to be fairly intelligent and more useful than a lot of their pundits. His analysis of the World Series – especially that Bochy has not always been as competent a manager as he was in the stretch run this year, and was frankly not a very good manager in San Diego – might seem a bit harsh, but is not without its merits. He’s a know-it-all to be sure, and can sometimes go too far, but at root has good insights to contribute.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Love this stat: ZERO one-run games in the WS! NONE!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
WHEN DO PITCHERS AND CATCHERS REPORT?
MONDAY?
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
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by sadison bummedgarner on Nov 5, 2010 11:46 PM PDT reply actions
GET OFF UR HANDS GIANTS BRAS!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
GET OFF UR BRAS GIANTS HANDS!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Just had to get this off my chest
1st game ever attended: Still at Candlestick Park, Bonds hits 2 hrs into my section off Schilling when he was still on the Phillies. Giants hit into a triple play!?…but win.
2nd game ever attended: My 1st game at PacBell: Kent hits a home run INTO MY NACHOS, but I didn’t get the ball bc I had left to go lean against the front railing of the bleachers…!? Giants win.
3rd game ever attended: This year, Giants at the Mets, where Rowand hits a go ahead HR in the 8th after Mets rough up Timmy after a Torres error where he literally starts sprinting back in RF at the crack of the bat for about 3 seconds, only to have the ball land about 30 feet from the infield!? Giants win.
4th game ever (to this point) attended: Timmy’s early blowup game at the Dodgers, Giants stage an improbable comeback in the 8th, Brochy JediMindTricks © Don Mattingly!? Giants win.
In summary, 4 different ballparks (Candestick/AT&T/Citi Field/Chavez Ravine) 3 home runs directly at my face, two meh starts by Timmy that lead to improbable wins involving Rowand/Bochy of all people, 1 triple play, 1 nacho-covered souvenir lost forever.
Has there been a more unlikely/amazing sequence of games attended by anyone?
I almost caught a Jeff Kent homerun back in 2002.
I was just inches from catching it.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
I just missed a Willie Mays foul ball in 1970, but it deflected off the railing and hit an ancient fan smack in the face.
I felt terrible for the guy and for myself for not getting to the ball.
Next year I got Juan Marichal’s autograph on the cover of a program, took it back to my seat and my sister IMMEDIATELY spilled her coca-cola on it, washing away the still wet autograph. I should’ve known right then what being a Giants fan would turn out to be, but I have to say I wouldn’t change a thing.
The YEARS of suffering, pain and tears make this world series victory so much sweeter.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
That game at Citi Field was crazy. The wind was totally out of control. Definitely a great game, considering that it was a rubber match against non-rivals early in the season.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I was at that game
Weezy’s 1.2 innings of work (5k, called in after Runzler had loaded the bases with 1 out) was the greatest pitching performance I’ve seen in person. .389 WPA on the day. IIRC, Juan Uribe walked in every at bat.
Didn’t he strike out all 5 guys? And Juan went something like 26 pitches in a row without taking the bat off his shoulder.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
OT: Boston for the malcontent
I finally settled on a school and a program for my master’s degree. I’m applying to Northeastern University in Boston for a Master of Sports Leadership degree. Not sure when I’m going. My undergrad graduation is still a few years away (thanks, CSU). But I got all the info from NEU and I love it. Of all the places I’ve thought of applying, including Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, North Carolina, and Washington, and none of those schools have interested me like NEU’s program does.
Problem is, I hate the Red Sox and the other sports teams from Boston/New England. I really hate the snow and the cold. I’ve had to eat a lot of shit to get ahead in my life and I know moving to Boston for three years or so will require more shit eating.
How good/bad is Boston, really? Those of you who have been there/lived through it, can a dyed-in-the-wool Bay Area lifer like me survive there? Living without the Giants will be hard enough.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 6, 2010 12:04 AM PDT reply actions
I went to college at BU and I’ll be honest, it was a really hard adjustment. I’d never lived anywhere it snowed, and the mentality was really different — the whole aggressive, east coast thing takes a minute to get used to. But eventually, I really got to appreciate the energy of the city, made some great friends, and got to like it a lot.
That being said, I have some family ties back there, my mom grew up a Red Sox fan, so Fenway was ingrained in me as a magical experience (this was pre-2004 so they were still lovable losers), and I was pretty drunk for most of the four years I spent there.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 6, 2010 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions
waits for Jporny and SFGuy
I was there for four days once and it was beautiful, 70 degrees every day.
My advice: if you can live on or next to campus, do it. I had 2 choices in NY, one across the street with small rooms and one 8 blocks away with big and “new” rooms. I chose warmth and was happy all winter, at least about that. How are you with miserable heat and humidity? I understand BOS is way worse for that than NY (although your time in the DR will take care of that too).
What’s a “Sports Leadership” degree? Is that sort of like USF’s “Sports Management” degree? You have listed some pretty excellent academic institutions there like UT and UW, so I’d like to think their programs are good too, with a better and bigger alumni network.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions
NEU’s sports leadership master’s degree is comparable to that of Oregon, Texas, et. al. Oregon’s program was an MBA in Sports Management and had business components to it as well.
What I love about NEU is that the classes are all online or in the evenings, so I can work and make money/build my network out there. BFVCE is applying to Berklee for a master’s in music performance so us both being in Boston would be good too.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 6, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
well that all makes a lot of sense
I was wondering how that would work with your writing, that kind of flexibility would be good to have. Good luck applying and don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not bad. Northeastern is a lot closer to Boston proper than Boston College is, so that might help. The weather was honestly not awful while I was there (until my Senior year, which dragged on and on and on. I also did miss my Junior year, which was supposed to be awful, because I was abroad.)
There’s actually plenty of pretty good food, though. Except Mexican, but they do have Chipotles there now. The sports team stuff is there and it’s annoying, but it’s not too pervasive, honestly, especially if you stay away from Fenway around game-times.
If it’s the program that’s the best fit for you, you should go for it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
If there’s Chipotle I can survive. I want to do stuff with the NYPL teams in the area, like Lowell. And I guess I could take trips to Richmond for Squirrels baseball too.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 6, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You wouldn’t be far from the Cape Cod League either (if you stuck around in Boston over the summer).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
yes that too! All the sports leadership students have do to summer internships with local sports things so maybe I can catch on with the Cape Cod League or something cool like that.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 6, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s about to be a Chipotle in Tallahassee. That’ll probably be the best Mexican food in town. Meh.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Panda won the Yogi Berra Award from The Hardball Times for the 2nd year in a row
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-2010-yogi-berra-award/
it’s not fair that he might not be able to defend his title playing in AAA…
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Probably posted somewhere on this site already
Obama called Giants to congratulate team
When do the Giants make their visit to the White House?
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
Last year the Yankees went on April 26, so it probably won’t be until the season starts (probably the Giants trip to Washington.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
lol pablo
per rotoworld
ESPN’s Buster Olney said a friend of his bumped into Pablo Sandoval at 9 AM during the World Series and the third baseman was drinking Mountain Dew and eating Cheetos for breakfast.
Oh man...
/remembers he’s the same age as Pablo and pigged out last night
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
That’s how I started out virtually every day when I was that age… then I’d do between 2 and 4 hour workouts and spend the night loading trucks. Man do i wish I was in that kind of shape again…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 6, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
most important free agents to re-sign?
Kruk and Kuip
by TimLaser and MattyC on Nov 6, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions
this
Giants just built their brand enormously this year— they’re not about to kill it by letting the team’s ridiculously popular announcers walk.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 6, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It's interesting
“Giants baseball: torture” became the slogan of the season. And we made fun of the giants’ real slogan so much. But “It’s magic inside” turned out to be so fitting for the season.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
"It's Magic Inside"
was ever so mockable, until it wasn’t.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 6, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It really was magic inside, because we were in this thing.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
From RW
The San Francisco Chronicle’s Henry Schulman says he would “bet a good chunk of change” that Giants GM Brian Sabean is keeping a close eye on the Yankees’ negotiations with Derek Jeter.
Schulman admits it’s “pure speculation” on his part, but he notes that Sabean was the head of scouting for the Yankees when they drafted Jeter in 1992. The Giants also have a host of former Yankees on staff, including pitching coach Dave Righetti, hitting coach Hensley Meulens and first base coach Roberto Kelly. We fully expect Jeter to wind up back with the Yankees, but perhaps Schulman is right that the Giants might be a backup plan. Nov. 6 – 1:33 pm et
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
Thing C
maybe a 1% chance of this happening
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Classic Schulman "Reporting"
Schulman “would bet” that Sabes “is keeping a close eye on the Yankees’ negotiations with Derek Jeter.” Well, geez, aren’t most baseball fans “keeping a close eye” on those negotiations? It’s one of the best hot stove stories going. Getting him for the Giants is (hopefully) an absurd notion given what he will cost any team. But Schulman doesn’t say that, of course. It’s not rosterbation, it’s reporterbation.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Nov 6, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Do not want
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
to be fair
for what Jeter’s actually worth, he would be a good fit. Problem is, he’s going to be way overpaid by either the Yankees (most likely) or whoever pries him away from the Yankees. I don’t want the Giants to be that team.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 6, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t give him more than 2 years, 20 million—and that would probably be overpaying if the SS market weren’t so mediocre.
He’ll probably get at least 3 years, 45 million from the Yanks. At LEAST.
yeah
is he really going to take a 50% pay cut? Or will the Yanks cram one down on him? I doubt it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
An Aaron Rowand-sized contract for a 36-year old who plays poor defense and whose offensive production fell off the cliff in the previous year? ALWAYS a good idea!
I sort of hope Jeter has a nasty contract negotiation in which he comes off looking really bad, and then completely falls apart next year. Kill off all the BS golden boy aura in one fell swoop.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
He’s supposed to report, not speculate. Anybody could do that.
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 6, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
If every baseball trade story could open with a line like, “Schulman admits it’s ‘pure speculation’ on his part, but…” it would save me a lot of time. There’s really no better signal to stop reading right there.
by Seasick fish on Nov 6, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm one of the few people on thise site who actually really likes Jeter
AND I WANT NO PART OF HIM.
you are not alone
his overratedness is incredibly overrated here. His salary is not overrated. Pass.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly, Dante Powell’s career OPS+ was 20 points higher than Rowand’s this year.
Also, random jcb9 information: once upon a time, in the early days when sfgiants.com was its own website and not a half-assed subsidiary of mlb.com, Bob Quinn, then GM of the Giants, did an online chat and answered a question I submitted about when Dante Powell would be given a shot at the lineup.
DOES THIS MEAN I’M FAMOUS?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
also, because I am me, I feel the need to point this out...
Powell was drafted in the first round in 1994. There were some great names in the first round that year:
3) Dustin Hermanson
5) Josh Booty
6) McKay Christiansen
9) C.J. Nitkowski
12) Nomar Garciaparra
18) Cade Gaspar
21) Hiram Bocachica
22) Dante Powell
23) Cartlon Loewer
27) Jacob Shumate
Not a lot of good players, though. Garciaparra and Paul Konerko were about it. Hell, even if you look at the second round, there’s Troy Glaus and that’s about it. Apparently, 1994 just wasn’t a good year for baseball in general.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Now I’m wondering about other first rounds of the 90s…
1990 had Chipper Jones and Mike Mussina, plus some solid guys like Alex Fernandez, Carl Everett, Mike Lieberthal, and Jeremy Burnitz.
1991 had Manny Ramirez, Cliff Floyd, and Shawn Green.
1992 had Phil Nevin, Derek Jeter, and Shannon Stewart.
1993 was one of the all-time best first roundsL Alex Rodriguez, Billy Wagner, Derrek Lee, Chris Carpenter, Torii Hunter, and Jason Varitek.
1995 had Todd Helton, Roy Halladay (one pick after we got Joe Fontenot…sob. At least Fontenot helped us get Nen, though!), and Michael Barrett.
1996 had Gil Meche and some okay guys like Kris Benson, Braden Looper, and Billy Koch.
1997 had J.D. Drew, Vernon Wells, Jon Garland, Lance Berkman, Adam Kennedy and Jack Cust.
1998 had Pat Burrell, Mark Mulder, J.D. Drew again, Carlos Pena, C.C. Sabathia (one pick after we took Tony Torcato), and (sigh) Aaron Rowand.
1999 had Josh Hamilton, Josh Beckett (good year for Joshes!), Ben Sheets, Alex Rios, and Barry Zito.
So, the 1994 draft class was probably better than very weak 1996 class, but was probably the second worst of the decade.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Wishful Thinking
I would love to see a buy-low trade for Grady Sizemore. The upside is huge and the price would be better than the free agent market…
Thoughts?
my own buy-low rosterbation notion
And I’ve barely had time for MCC since the Series ended, so apologies if this has been done a million times before:
J.J. Hardy. He’s a free agent and I’m thinking he should be affordable, as he’s coming off a couple of down years offensively. But he bounced back a bit last year, he has power, and even if he doesn’t hit, he’s a good enough defender to have value (8.1 UZR and 2.4 WAR last year). Plus he just turned 28 – he’s young enough to recover offensively.
Just an idle thought, mind you. I haven’t really thought it through; there are probably plenty of reasons why it doesn’t make sense.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Are you sure he’s a free agent? I thought someone mentioned that he is entering his last season of arbitration.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
has him listed as an FA.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Non-tender candidate according to MLBTR
by kingofthacove on Nov 6, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Rotoworld implies he’s under control as well
by kingofthacove on Nov 6, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm. Well if he’s cheap, then I’m sure the Giants will “kick the tires” on him.
/Sabean’d
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
HaHa good stuff
Our payroll was the ONLY bargain in the league this year, thus all contracts were also
advice from a former Yankee fan
Hi. I’m delighted the Giants won. I started rooting for them at the beginning of the playoffs (when Lincecum was the only one of their players I knew) and the Yankees were beginning to bore me. (I’m usually a Yankee fan). I lived in the Bay Area for five years as a kid, saw Jack Sanford lose to Vinegar Bend Mizell in my first baseball game, rooted for the Mays McCovey Marichal Cepeda Giants, but when we moved back to New York I became a Yankee fan.
My advice— the Giants are a great team, wonderful young pitching staff, potential all star young catcher. They should be contending during the next six or seven years. Stop writing like it’s amazing fluke that you (we) won. Begin to expect it. Think about how to improve the team. This is the beginning of a golden era.
Wait, how could you be an AL fan and not know Aubrey Huff, Barry Zito, or Aaron Rowand!?
Or Pat Burrell, even, though he wasn’t in the AL as long as those three. Or Juan Uribe, even.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
re Jeter
Yes, he’d be a good fit for SF though not better than the Giant shortstops I saw during postseason. But he’s worth much more to the Yankees than anyone else. They know it and Derek knows it.
He was pretty thoroughly outplayed by Elvis Andrus in their series, first time I’ve seen that happen in many postseason series.
I don't care much about "clubhouse chemistry"
but the “Captain” seems to be a pretty lousy fit with what is going on here. I don’t see him reaching into his pants or growing a beard or anything else. He’s a megastar in a city of megastars, here he’d be a second fiddle in a somewhat provincial media market.
It’s weird for the Yanks, they still need him. Would they want Uribe instead, for like $6M? They don’t have any real options at SS. Pena? Russo?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 6, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a hilariously messy "Sure Thing."
Jeter’s got nowhere else to go and he/they know it.
There’s noway NY CAN’T re-sign him, and they/he know it.
His ability is declining with age (albeit annoyingly slowly) and everyone knows it, BUT-
Cashman can’t give him A-Rod-esque money or years without taking a bath, yet they can’t insult the very face of their franchise with a two-year, market-value deal.
Neither side has any other options and yet it will still be a very sticky, complex negotiation.
make some popcorn.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Nov 6, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
My main goal now, as is Neukums is to repeat in 2011.
Go giants, repeat in 2011. They need to keep their pitching staff healthy and keep throwing
good starter after good starter at their unhappy and fearful opposition.
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