Miguel Tejada to the Giants: Okay. I guess. Whatever.
It’s understandable to hate the Miguel Tejada signing if you...
- thought the Giants were going to pull out a hidden cache o’ cash and make a run for Carl Crawford or Jayson Werth with the money they’d save by starting Ryan Rohlinger
- think that by having a lower payroll than expected, the Giants could then spend more on the draft and international free agents
- believe that the money paid to Tejada could instead have been squirreled away to help sweeten an eventual extension to Tim Lincecum or Matt Cain.
- are convinced that the Giants could have acquired one of Marco Scutaro, J.J. Hardy, or Jason Bartlett without giving up much more than a superfluous middle reliever and/or a C prospect.
- didn’t mind the idea of the Giants going with an in-house option like Brandon Crawford, Manny Burriss, or Ryan Rohlinger
- would have embraced a three-year, $21M deal for Juan Uribe
- think Tejada is completely incapable of playing passable defense at short
All of those are good reasons to be disgruntled. But I can’t commit to a single one. The Giants weren’t ever going to get Crawford or Werth. The draft-bonus-for-Tucker gambit was an anomaly, and it doesn’t work in reverse. The money saved on the 2008 Giants ($76M total payroll) never made its way back to the roster, so I don’t see why the 2011 payroll should affect the possible 2013 free agents. The shortstops on the trade market were warty little critters, and their current teams are probably asking for an uncomfortable amount in return. The in-house options all stink. Uribe is overpaid now, and I’m fine with the Giants passing . And Tejada is probably below-average defensively, but only in that familiar and steady Edgar Renteria kind of way.
So, like, whatever. The Giants were completely hosed from the moment the season ended. Thomas Neal for Hardy/Bartlett, or money thrown at an overpriced Tejada? I probably take Tejada. Pay $20M+ for Uribe or Tsuyoshi Nishioka, or a one-season tourniquet? Tejada, probably. Start the season with Ryan Rohlinger, a natural third baseman who has had all of 320 minor league chances at shortstop in his career? You get the idea. I could have talked myself into a lot of the other options, but since Tejada is the answer, I zipped past the first four stages of grief and nestled right into acceptance.
Would have preferred stale Hydrox for Scutaro or Hardy if that’s all it took. Could have talked myself into Uribe for three years. Probably would have ditched Huff and Uribe to start Belt and Other if it meant Crawford or Werth in left. Can’t get worked up about Miguel Tejada. Just can’t. At some point, you start frothing over one-win WAR gaps that are largely based on disputable and volatile defensive numbers, and that’s when you need to have a cocktail, step back for a bit, and admit the projected difference over 162 games isn’t worth frothing over.
Actually, the correct answer was probably Renteria for $2M or $3M. Funny, that.
I’ll hope and secretly believe that Tejada can hold off age-related disintegration for another season, while still griping about every out he makes next season. That’s having it both ways, and it’s a technique used by intellectually dishonest and bitchy internet opinion-makers. You should try it. It’s fun.
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Meh.
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 30, 2010 11:03 PM PST reply actions 14 recs
Apparently, I have 6.
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 30, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
But . . .
What do you recommend for lunch tomorrow?
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
I want this

Chicken waffle sandwich. Belgian waffle, to boot.
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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Great. Now I have to get out the waffle iron.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
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I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
How dare you post a waffle so soon in this thread. For shame. Have you no respect for Grant’s meh?
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
This meh was Chop’s. I second the meh. Meh.
One-year deal for a below-average shortstop on the very wrong side of 35 is a one-year deal.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
BOOOO that's a Dodgers loving fried chicken/waffle sandwich
Picture is from yesterdays LA Times from Bruxies restaurant in LA county.
Not cool posting this so soon after Urbie taking flight. But since I have to live in LA I should at least enjoy some of the non taco food groups i guess.
Yeah
WTF, we know who the spy is now.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve had tacos 5 nights in a row & I don’t see the need to change anything.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
I call a phoney here.
I did that once and they were the most disgusting things ever. I didn’t even eat turkey for about 5 years after.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Dec 1, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
We also never repeated the turkey enchilada experiment. You’d think it wouldn’t be bad, but you’d be wrong.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Turkey sandiwches and wraps since Saturday
And scrambled eggs one night… only have 5 drumsticks left (I think)
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
I put the leftover turkey in a soup. Chicken broth, fire roasted tomatoes, hominy, onion, cilantro & a handful of carrots…. I’m forgetting something.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
You forgot to leave out the cilantro.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
why would you ever do something crazy like that?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
In order to preserve the good taste of the soup.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
cilantro is kinda like a healthier alternative to bacon; it makes just about everything taste better.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Cilanto:Bacon :: Bad:Good
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Lol mutant who can only taste soap
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by shanghaijim on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
A sandwich?
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 1, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
Not much fan loyalty
Amazing that a sandwich is the beginning of this thread instead of legitimate comments on Giants attempts to resolve SS issue. I gotta believe winning is either unimportant to Giants fans or y’all have become blase’ after success. Clearly, the fans don’t care about repeating success. Shame on y’all.
You must be new.
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WHAT IF I CAME HERE FOR A SANDWICH??!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And brotha....
That’s a fried chicken + WAFFLE sandwich. How dare you diminish its relative worth?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hate to disagree
Because a fried chicken and waffle sandwich is a pretty great thing, but it’s apparently from LA, so I’m okay with diminishing its relevance.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Okay, fair enough.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Sorry
I just come here for NEWZ.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
BEST SANDWICH? (in-thread poll)
my vote would be split b/t hot pastrami and muffaletta.
you?
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Gotta go with the Sailor on Rye
Pastrami, corned beef, split knockwurst and kraut with spicy mustard. Heart attack special.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
that sounds amazing
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
It's real
And it’s spectacular.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
I had at least 4 muffalettas on my recent 5 day trip to New Orleans. I even tried to make one when I get home but had mixed results.
WWRWD?
it can be difficut
you need the real Olive Salad from Central Grocery, and you need an approximation of the humungo Portuguese roll. After you acquire these, the rest is smooth sailing.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Add oil.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
加油!!
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What is your favorite sandwich that you are actually able to eat?
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i make a mean vegan muffaletta!
it’s all about the olive salad, after all.
i eat 1 PB sammich a day, minimum, so that would probably be my “favorite,” although it’s far from the “best” or “tastiest.” Most Valuable Sandwich would probably be some fancy panini, or maybe a reuben from Chicago Grill.
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Hell yeah one PB sandwich a day. I’ve been on that diet (two a day during law school) for years. Also, I do double decker (used to do triple decker, but that was too much). And toasted if possible.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
I’d prefer the PB+J sandwich with the banana on the side. And a glass of milk. Maybe a twinkie. Or a zinger.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
I love eating cereal when I’m watching my cartoons.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Do they still have cartoons after school?
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After, during, and before school.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well, there are cable networks devoted to cartoons. I thinking about regular broadcast networks with afterschool programming blocks.
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Not anytime we’ve looked when babysitting… and Saturday morning is bad too. However, kids have many more opportunities to get rich in real estate or buy jewelry than in my generation.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Cartoons are pure garbage today!
They don’t make’em like they used to.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
That's totally not true
the cartoons/children programing these days are so much better/smarter than twenty years ago when I was a kid…
You are correct
I talk my son into watching Phineas & Ferb every time it’s on.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Watch Adventure Time.
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Mathematical!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
There were TONS of rubbish cartoons back in the day. We just remember the really good ones.
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Dude, Adora was raised by the Horde. She was a Force Captain and in charge of all the troops under Hordak. I never knew that before.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Wasn’t she also an explorer?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Like the Little Dinosaur?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t get home until early evening, so I miss out on any daytime TV.
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I checked the listsings on KTVU and sadly this is what I’m seeing:
3pm: Dr. OZ show
4pm: The Doctors
5pm: News
6:30pm: Friends
WWRWD?
Which one?

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BEAT THE DOCTORS!!!
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
I miss Danger Mouse. And Duck Tales. And Snorks. And Mighty Mouse. And Gummi Bears.
/twists top off of squeeze-it.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Gummy Bears!
Bouncing here and there and everywhere!
High adventures that are beyond compare!
We are the Gummy Bears!
Magic and mystery are part of their history
Along with the secret of Gummy Bear juice
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Dec 1, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Something involving turkey and avocado. Toasted bread.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I’m a big fan of Banh Mi’s, but my single favorite sandwich is probably this:
Rustic White Anchovy & Egg 10.95
Marinated white anchovies, fried egg, Parmesan cheese, mixed
greens sprinkled with lime juice, and balsamic basil dressing on
toasted old-world loaf
Sold at a deli nearby.
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old world loaf
lol
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I put one of those out almost everyday, sometimes two.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Well played sir.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
It manages to taste better than a Belgian BM.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Eww.
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Juan Uribe would still eat it.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
"old world loaf"
a.k.a. Jose Guillen tracking down a double in the gap
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
lol @ vegetarian yearning for alternate dimension in which pastrami is made from chickpeas
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno, but I could really go for a ham and egg sandwich right now.
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Depends on the pastrami. There are a lot of bad pastrami sandwiches out there. Believe me, I’ve tried them all.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
I found the one using the pastrami that I cured and smoked in my backyard to be of superior quality.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
If you ever make your way down to Santa Ynez, try a Dave’s Pastrami Reuben at El Rancho Market. This guy, Dave, cures and smokes his pastrami in their kitchen according to old world recipes and imports meat and water from New York (his original home) to make it. The meat is never less than perfect, although the nimrods in the deli muff the rest of the sandwich up once in a while.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
Amazing that despite your diction you’re a fucking idiot who doesnt know jack shit and yet decides to speak and prove his idiocy. Fuck off fuck face and eat a turd sandwich out of your own failed fake superciliosity.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 1, 2010 11:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Saw the new Harry Potter last night. It was good!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
They had a lot of action sequences to get work with. Less time to f**k up the story. I was impressed.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Yep. Shit is gettin’ real too. No more wasting time playing quidditch.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
HARRY POTTER SPOILERZ ALERT
I did like the impromptu dance scene. Getting out of the Ministry was too easy though. I mean, everyone in that building knows his face and only one guy is sending curses at them? And I thought they should have shown/expressed more Snape-hate.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Having not seen the previous movies, I was confused through the entire movie.
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Actually, the thread started with a completely on-topic post.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
WELCOME!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Chop leading off a new post?
What is this, Opposite world?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Thank you, twitter.
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 30, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
it’s Bizarro World.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Nov 30, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Rec'd for the inverse 'chop.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I initially hated this
but then the thought of Burriss starting more than 0 games after ST scared me. And I do prefer this deal to the 2 yr deal that the Tigers gave Jhonny Peralta. It’s better to overpay in money than years.
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 30, 2010 11:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Although
I do believe Bartlett could be had for Santiago Casilla and a mid level prospect, and I don’t think Tejada can play a ML quality SS
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I wouldn’t trade Casilla and a mid-level prospect for Bartlett, but that’s because Bartlett’s UZR is all like this:
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by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
SPEAKING of way down in the hole
I just finished The Wire. Holy shit. Awesome.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
by ryanmiles on Nov 30, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly. Greatest anything in the history of entertainment.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
For once we agree.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You know what?
Screw you. I don’t need to answer to you. In fact, you’re the worst poster here. You add nothing. I’ll do what I want, and you can go fuck yourself. It’s the little pukes like you who make me sick of this site. Go away, and don’t come back.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
Rec'd
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I actually had to rec that one myself.
/loathes self
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by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 30, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Un-rec'd
For stunning lack of originality.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
You know what?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Yes . . .
I do, for I am full of myself.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just going to make this my banning message from now on.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
I’m making it my answering machine.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
WARNING WARNING
YOU HAVE TRIGGERED THE GRANTECH AUTOMATIC ANTI-INGRATIATION ALARM SYSTEM.
PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE GRANT. 
PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE GRANT.
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One of my first internet pseudonyms was ED-209.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We need something more...
We need a sports blogger who doesn’t need to eat or sleep…
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
PIKA
/except for the “eat” part
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t tell whether you’re being serious or funny. Either way, this is awesome.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
Dead serious.
And dead right. I had that coming — I was way out of line. Let that be a lesson for the rest of you.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 30, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
“The perfume of contrition doesn’t mask the smell of asshole.” – Sun Tzu
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/searches text for quote . . .
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
You must resort to the ultimate weapon Josh
Cry “Havoc!” and let slip the llamas of war!

We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
by McCoven on Dec 1, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions 8 recs
That is a wildly inconsistent poster. How can you have Batman, Iron Man, and TMNT in the same context as Twilight and Avatar?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it really diminishes the impact of the poster.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
...
I think it was a poster proclaiming love for llamas because they do cosplay.
That is the only connection between the images
We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
missing
Zorrollama
Wong Fei Llama
Llama Hood
Tim the Llama (better than llama’izing Lincecum’s last name)
by non sequitur on Dec 1, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
What about Lorenzo Llama?
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Mmm, I like feeling the heat off of Grant’s fury on cold nights like these.
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Even when Grant is furious, people can feel the empathy emanating from Grant’s open and caring heart.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
As much as I like seeing the fury,
I definitely don’t want it pointed at me when it explodes.
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
Tell us how you really feel
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I’ll watch it some year.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed!
And I have whoever runs your Facebook page to thank for it.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
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by ryanmiles on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I get emails about that once a week but I don’t know what they mean.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
first season
I wish I could watch it for the first time again. Pretty realistic for TV.
I'm sorry
Prepare for withdrawal.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 30, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Simon has a new thingie, based in New Orleans. Bunk and Lester and some other Simon vets from The Corner and HLOTS are in it.
by non sequitur on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
Treme is great too but I wouldn’t go straight from The Wire to it. You need to decompress from The Wire before you can appreciate Treme.
WWRWD?
So… Homicide: Life on the Street then? I never got around to that but will one of these days.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Homicide was a great show; at the time I would have easily put it in the top 5 all time. But it really doesn’t compare to The Wire. The episodes are much more self-contained, lacking the continuity that’s now common in the best series, although in later episodes they started going in that direction.
It’s well worth watching, but if you’re expecting a broadcast version of The Wire, you’re going to be pretty disappointed.
Yeah, it sounds like season 1 with less interesting characters and (I assume) less detailed criminals. But it will still beat hell out of season 14 of Keeping Up With The Dancing With The American Idols.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Actually the detectives are fairly to very interesting characters. But, for the most part, in one episode of the show, a murder (or more) has been committed, the detectives do some investigating, they catch the perp, interrogate him/her (these are often the best scenes), they get a confession, and that’s the end. So, new bad guys, new crime every week. Consequently, yeah, not very detailed criminals and mostly not very complicated plots.
Like I said, later on they started heading more and more toward multi-episode story arcs, but it was a much more conventional show than The Wire. Still, it was very dark and well-written by the standards of the time (or even of this one).
It *was* new bad guys, new crime every week, but the episodes were more about exploring the world of the detectives than about being crime procedurals. The crimes themselves were so unimportant to the show that they were often solved at the end of the next-to-last act or at the beginning of the final act. Police work itself was often rote and uninteresting, the criminals usually dumb and unsurprising. I do think that HLOTS was like The Wire in being content to paint a very unromanticized picture of being a detective in Baltimore without making an obvious comment about it.
The structure of the show, at least when it was at its height, was indeed though more episodic. There were a few multi-part episodes and then the whole Luther Mahoney saga in the later seasons, but the narrative was all from the detectives’ point of view unlike The Wire.
I’ve actually never seen Homicide or The Corner. I would go a totally different direction before coming back to Treme. Maybe Six Feet Under or something.
WWRWD?
This is probably a good idea. I loved HLOTS and still do, but that was before cable changed the scripted programming game. I’d also note that HLOTS is based on David Simon’s book rather than being run by David Simon himself. Also, there’s not much reason to watch beyond the fourth or maybe the fifth season, although there’s a good ep or two in the later seasons (like The Subway episode).
My understanding of The Corner (which I think WAS actually run by David Simon himself) is that it’s about drug addiction, which if you think about it for a moment really wasn’t all that big a part of The Wire outside of Bubbles’ character.
by non sequitur on Dec 1, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I’m in the middle of Season 2 right now, and dear God what a great show. It stuns me that the American public would rather watch Big Brother than a beautifully crafted, well written show. Sigh.
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On DirecTV 101? I’m watching it weekly and even though this is my 2nd time watching it, I still really look forward to it on Sundays.
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exactly. I actually have a friend who has the entire series on DVD, but I really don’t want to watch it in a lump sum. I love having the week to digest it.
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Yeah, it's definitely scary
I’m not sure what Scutaro could’ve been had for, but I would’ve liked him
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He’d be $3M more, cost a prospect or two, is only two years younger than Tejada, and was only worth, like, .4 more wins last year. I was always yick on that one.
The more I think about it, the more I’d be open to going nuts with a Runzler/Wheeler/Neal offer for Brignac
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a lot for a guy with a career 88 OPS+ in the big leagues and .760/.711/.744 in the minors the last three years.
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That’s, like, a 1.455 OPS.
And I know it’s silly, but I have Zobrist-like unrealistic confidence in him.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, he’s been age appropriate and all, but he just hasn’t been a particularly impressive player since his big year in A+/AA a three years ago. I’d be in favor of acquiring him, but not for a package like that.
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I’m probably weird in that I’d rather keep Neal than Wheeler too.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
But Wheeler is realer.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
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(I regret that.)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 30, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well, young pitchers are very volatile, especially young pitchers who are clearly very talented but were not great last year. Still, I’d feel more confident giving up that much for one player if he hadn’t been so, well, just okay for three years in a row.
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Wow, I know TINSTAAPP
But I could see Neal being ranked as low as 7th on the Giants prospect lost. I’m not sure I could be convinced that Wheeler is lower than 2nd
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Or that Wheeler could be higher than 2nd, FWIW
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That's not weird
That borders on insane. One could be a front of the rotation starter and the other will be a 4th OF, whose ceiling is really an everyday big-leaguer. TINSTAAPP and all that’s still insanity.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
It's because I'm not a very good parent to Zach
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Per Cots Scutaro is only making 5.5M next year. I liked him less than Hardy but more than Bartlett because he has always shown decent patience and fielding. I wouldn’t have given up Runzler for him though-unless we could somehow get Ellsbury in the deal
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I’m assuming he takes the option. Maybe that’s wrong.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Ah
Although a 3M utility guy/safety plan if Crawford/Adrianza isn’t the worst thing in the world. Also, speaking of Red Sox, I wonder if we should try and buy low on Mike Cameron
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Well right now our OF is
Ross, Torres and either: DeRosa, Rowand, Schierholtz. We could use another starter
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We can always use more outfielders!

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by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the ball went missing so they couldnt play
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by giant4life83 on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand is pitching from center field
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Dec 1, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
I love how the 1B are playing the OF
Also, Nate at 3rd!
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That’s not 3rd. It’s short left fielder!
by speckops on Nov 30, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait a minute,
If Ross plays SS, he would have to throw right-handed.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
Wait... if Schierholtz plays third, I'll never be born...
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
I like Jeff O'Sullivan's better
Aaron King, please pitch better.
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Woah. Kory Casto
I’d forgotten that name
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by Gobroks on Dec 1, 2010 12:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Scutaro’s got higher upside, at least a history of solid fielding, and very good plate discipline that improves the rest of the team’s hitting by getting opposing starting pitchers out of the game more quickly.
I like him more even with more money and the loss of a prospect.
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What does this comment have to do with The Wire? ???
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Grant, wasn’t it you who JUST posted that defensive metrics
are largely based on disputable and volatile defensive numbersand then you go and say Bartletts UZR is like ::imitates plane falling::
you’re having it both ways, man!!
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by giant4life83 on Nov 30, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly. If stat goobers can use WAR numbers only when it suits them, so can I.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
thats the problem with saber-stats… so many to choose from, cherry picking stats is easy to make an arguemnt one way or another.
me, i prefer to see with my eyes
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by giant4life83 on Nov 30, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I prefer to see with your eyes as well.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
well, okay, you can borrow them for a bit. Just remember to put them under the mat when you’re done.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
The electron's exact location . . .
will depend on the instrument you detect it with.
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by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
you’re doing detection sequences with my eyeballs?
HOW DARE YOU!!
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
Well that's kinda the problem with defensive stats
Since they’re not perfected yet.
With hitting stick with wOBA, and pitching is not perfected either, but it’s close. FIP and xFIP are probably the best.
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yeah hitting and pitching are more perfected, definetely.
defensive stats are, well, defensive stats. other than fielding %, there’s not much else reliable to go on
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
Fielding % isn't really reliable IMO
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Fielding % is the opposite of informative.
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well, reliable in the sense that it tells you how many errors to chances the fielder got. i know that if you can’t get to a ball, you can’t possibly make an error on it, but it is still the most reliable defensive stat IMO.
UZR and others, i dont know how they calculate them, but in a world where Tejada is a better fielder than Bartlett according to UZR is a world with a flawed defensive stat database
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
If you don’t know what UZR is or how it’s calculated, maybe you should spend some time reading on the internet instead of posting on this board.
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by markdash on Dec 1, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ill take your suggestions into consideration. in the meantime, if theres anything in the world you dont know, you should spend some time reading on the internet instead of posting on this board trying to be a hardass.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a difference between not knowing something and opining upon things you don’t know about.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
Sigh
According to UZR, Bartlett is a better fielder than Tejada.
One year of UZR is a small sample size. Bartlett is ~+20 in UZR over his career and Tejada is ~-50.
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Stop looking at the career numbers
3 years of decline in a row for Bartlett.
Leg injuries each year. Fragile as can be.
The UZR is not lieing this time. Bartlett was statuesque last season.
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lol you said exactly what i was thinking. (see below)
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
3 years of decline does not necessarily a predicative trend
I’d be concerned, definitely, but I wouldn’t put as much stock into it as you do.
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really? huh. how far back would you be going, then? 5 years?
cause unless UZR is heavily flawed, 3 years should tell the tale
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
I'd use his whole career
But just put more stock into his most recent years, weighing it against +/- (DRS) and TotalZone and the Fans’ Scouting Report, plus MAI EYES (or if I had one, a scouting department).
If you’re really serious about Bartlett being a worse fielder than Tejada, I’ll bet you that Bartlett outperforms Tejada next season in both UZR and UZR/150.
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im not serious about Bartlett being a worse defender. i think he is better than Miggy, based on age alone, metrics aside.
i use my eyes for defense
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That sounds painful.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
It reminds me of the scene in A Series of Unfortunate Events that officially turned me off from reading or taking that series seriously.
In like the fourth book, the baby gets into a sword fight. Okay, sure. But does the baby have a sword? No. She uses her god damned teeth.
Well, fuck that. Babies can’t sword fight with teeth.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
So reading that one scene turned you off the whole series? Man, what an unfortunate event.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
It was just too ridiculous.
I know that series calls for a serious suspension of disbelief to begin with, but no amount of suspension of disbelief can make babies sword fighting with their teeth okay.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, maybe if she had been using her teeth to hold a sword or something, and that’s how it was working, I could deal with it. But she’s not. She’s using her teeth to block the attacks of a full-grown adult who fully intends to murder her with a fucking sword.
It does not work.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
you know
Lemony Snicket is like the only famous person I kind of know (Lowell High class of 1988). If you want, I could try to find out his thoughts on the subject.
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No, no. I’m perfectly happy living in my world of bewilderment and pseudo-rage.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
you are assume UZR is smooth
while experience tells us it typically is not.
Bartlett’s UZR/150 is actually hilarously sloped:
+26, +17, +9, +3, -7, -14.
I am willing to bet dimes to donuts that that pattern is extremely rare and indicative of nothing. It does make it hard to judge his fielding! Favorite Pole (Syzmborinsky of ZIPS fame) rates him as average, with a projected 96 OPS+ (.340/.383 in TB). Tejada projects to a 90 OPS+ (.306/.383 in Petco) and a fair (below average) fielder.
So yeah, Bartlett is better. He’s also not free.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, people see a row of numbers and draw a line if they’re ascending or descending. A year of fielding data has the same volatility as 3 years of offensive data – if you see seasonal lines for defense, the trend is not your friend!
by D.Szymborski on Dec 1, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
This is 1/3 of a year of offensive data, I’m assuming.
This exactly. I’ve made at least 4 posts so far trying to make this point and still little to no headway.
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wouldn’t it make the most sense, though, to assume that recent (within 3 years) UZR would be most applicable, due to aging?
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
what do you mean "reliable"
Over the last 4 years, Tejada has ranged from a 5 to -20 SS (5 was a very small sample in SD) in TZ fielding runs, total -14. By UZR -6..
Bartlett has been about a +3 to a -10, total -11 over 4 years by TZ, -6 by UZR.
So the fielding stats fluctuate. So do hitting stats. Bartletts range in wRC was +/- 40 runs in that same time. The difference between a -6 fielding run season and -10 fielding run season for a SS is 2 grounders per month.
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actually
I don’t think the pitching stats can be much worse than the fielding stats. It’s still essentially unknown how to partition a BIP “credit” (for an out) or “debit” (for a hit) between the pitcher and the fielder. FIP is good for the parts of pitching that are not defense dependent… but there is still the rest of it.
It’s somewhat worse for fielders because you have the additional partitioning error of which fielder gets the blame/credit.
Come to think of it – offensive stats obviously suffer from this (first part) as well. So, in reality, we don’t even know what we think we know.
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Why would anyone partition Bip Roberts?
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
I hear Britain tried partitioning Bip Roberts one time. Millions died.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Sure, it sounds funny. But if you just say India instead of Bip Roberts, it’s a true story.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I tried this joke with the Holocaust one time by replacing “Jews” with “puppies.” It wasn’t any funnier.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I thought the Bip Roberts quip was mildly funny.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Bip Roberts on the other hand…
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Wow
That’s deserving of the TWSS HOF, I LOL’d at work.
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Seconded
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I saw them both at Fiumicino Airport in Rome last October, presumably on an intelligence gathering mission.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Except for Matt Cain!
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And actually Zito too
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he’s the xFIP exception. no one can figure him out, or so they say
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Then trust me
Bartlett stunk this year. I watched plenty of his games.
People are also failing to recognize how completely fragile he is. The UZR isn’t lieing on him. He was bad. Maybe it was his injuries though. I think one was a groin. Hard to keep them straight the last couple of years.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
i cant tell which post you are replying to...
but I believe you. I was actually a JJ Hardy advocate, i was just arguing the Bartlett angle because everyone seems so focused on him
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
UZR isn't great
But I trust it more than any one guy’s eyes any day.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Stats goobers?
I’m bookmarking that one.
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by BruteSentiment on Dec 1, 2010 1:52 AM PST up reply actions
I prefer stats raisinettes.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
cause every thread should have one

you ever been on a real shrimpin' boat?
no, but i've been on a real big boat
On the other hand, his DRS is all like:
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With the line being zero runs. So one defensive metric makes him out to be better overall than Tejada as a SS.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
IIRC Fan scouting has him at about average too
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I’m sure he’s better. I’m just not sure he’s B-prospect better.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather have Scutaro.
We have a couple of folks calling Bartlett a terrible defender because “omg uzr trendz” and it’s simply not the case. The trend, while amusing, has lead to to many people taking it as gospel that Bartlett will be a terrible defender next year.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I wouldn’t go that far. It’s like debating the possible acquisition of an average-dependent player after a season in which he hit .270. Is he Ichiro! after 2008, or Juan Pierre after 2005? But with UZR and the like, single seasons mean even less and fluctuate more than something as sketchy as batting average.
Until the brainiacs can agree on one metric to rule them all, I’ll error on the side of caution and not trust when a chunk of a player’s WAR comes from his defense, like Nyjer Morgan in 2009.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
Or Andres Torres last year
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
No, because I want to believe that one.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
It isnt as drastic
That Morgan year was all kinds of weird
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
I think Torres earned that WAR last year.
He made some catches in left field on fly balls. And he was playing center.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
I was going to go this route but Torres:
a) was worth 3.9 WAR without fielding
b) really looks that fantastic out in the field
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Im just being that guy
Torres is awesome
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
I watched him with giant4life83’s eyes, and he really is that good.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
dont forget to return them when youre done. also, if you have issues with seeing alot of boobs, then you might want to bring them back sooner father than later ;)
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
Search your feelings. You know it to be boobs.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
This is the truest thing ever posted on the internet.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
by jhiat00 on Dec 1, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Luke: I am your rather.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dan Vador?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Dark Helmet?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
One of my favorite movie lines from my youth.
“He has your father’s eyes.”
“Get those out of his mouth.”
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
led
This drives me crazy. It’s a spelling error I just can’t learn to read through.
“Lead” is either present tense of the verb or metal.
I’m so happy that I’m not the only one!
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
You've lead me astray!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Here, have this Pb&J sandwich I made.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ouch.
I fail.
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This reminds me of Wings of Fury.
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Broderbund? 1989? Anyone? No?
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
I see Broderbund and my mind immediately goes to Zoombinis.
Zoombinis was amazing.
Cody Ross - He's not Jose Guillen!
Baseball.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
That looks like a poem.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Dec 1, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
(o)
Fishball
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
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<('.'<)
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Pablo?
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
# are convinced that the Giants could have acquired one of Marco Scutaro, J.J. Hardy, or Jason Bartlett without giving up much more than a superfluous middle reliever and/or a C prospect.
# didn’t mind the idea of the Giants going with an in-house option like Brandon Crawford, Manny Burriss, or Ryan Rohlinger
# would have embraced a three-year, $21M deal for Juan Uribe
# think Tejada is completely incapable of playing a capable defensive shortstop
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Also yep.
Actually, the correct answer was probably Renteria for $2M or $3M. Funny, that.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Reasonable. I’m just not feeling any of those.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
I just hope this is another signing I have to write a fanpost about how wrong I was at the end of the season.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
But if you’re right, you can call him MigueLOL Te-HA-HA-duh
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
I was leaning more towards "worthless waste of 6.5 million dollars"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Got it . . .
right here young man.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
I’m totally into your:
Actually, the correct answer was probably Renteria for $2M or $3M. Funny, that.
though.
Tejada had a wRC+ of 92 last season.
Renteria had a wRC+ of 95 last season.
I know that this is beside the semantics of whether or not Tejada is average or below average, but this is what I always come back to when I think about this signing. And I don’t think any of us here thinks that Tejada is the better fielder of the pair.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
by dregarx on Nov 30, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
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Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I don’t think there’s a huge difference in the range of Miggy and Edgdgy.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Holy shit, I just realized they’re brothers!
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if they’re so similar that their bone chips are the same flavor…
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Me neither.
But I don’t think that Tejada can be said to be the better fielder.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I'd set the difference at about 2.5 runs
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by Gobroks on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is why I picked “yuck” above, not so much that Tejada is the worst crime against humanity since “Hip to Be Square”, but that options like paying Uribe for 3 years, bringing Rent back, or people like Izturis or trading multiple prospects for Bartlett or Hardy was the universe of alternatives.
Thus, yuck.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:08 AM PST up reply actions
..and that's bringing back Uribe for 3/35, which apparently he demanded to return
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
so now we want to trade multiple prospects for average infielders?
WIN NOW?!?!?
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Wait, what
You mean, it’s not hip to be square….amazing.
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Plaintiff: Giant Torture
Defendant: Huey Lewis and DOEs 1-10
Cause of action: Fraud
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Edgar can't be trusted to play a full season
Since he’s been injured for the past two. Tejada has a long clean injury history.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Man, Tejada’s a machine. Over the last twelve seasons, he’s had ONE in which he played fewer than 156 games.
Gamer!
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
You stop saying this right now. I am concerned about the jinx factor.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Every. Single. One.
/cue Twilight Zone music
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
It's funny because he has fake birth certificates
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Oh, hey, that's one of the positives with Zito, too!
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I would rather have Renteria and another experienced backup like Izturis for a fraction of the cost of Tejada.
It’s just not worth the money to pay Tejada- he’s not that great of a hitter.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Imagine a world in which I can agree with this statement, of course because World Series MVP hahahaha I can’t finish.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
No, I just can’t believe I could agree with what you said. But I do. Of course, I agreed with your sig last year and we were wrong there too!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man.
That was a great sig.
I should compare actual WAR/plate appearance values.
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The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids’ CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team’s CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
WAR PA WAR/PA
Lewis 0.9 480 0.001875
Posey 3.9 443 0.008803612
Sandoval 1.9 616 0.003084416
Bowker -0.4 167 -0.00239521
Schierholtz 0.5 252 0.001984127
Frandsen -0.4 173 -0.002312139
Ishikawa 0.3 173 0.001734104
Amezaga 0 0 0
Total 0.01277391
Total (650 PA) 8.303041528
Rowand 0.5 357 0.00140056
Sanchez 2.7 479 0.005636743
DeRosa -0.3 104 -0.002884615
Sandoval 1.9 616 0.003084416
Huff 5.7 668 0.008532934
Molina 0.4 416 0.000961538
Renteria 1.3 267 0.004868914
Schierholtz 0.5 252 0.001984127
Total 0.023584617
Total (650 PA) 15.3300011
OK, first of all: LOL Torres, LOL Burrell, LOL DeRosa, LOL Uribe.
So yeah, that sig went well…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Huff and Rent did you in, but you were right about Posey.
Also: LOL Amezaga!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot to LOL him.
He had 5 plate appearances in AA.
That’s worth a LOLOL Amezaga.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
i think it will work out
he is still a good bat, i think panda will have a comeback year and i think belt might fight his way to first so we can start huff in left
Watching the picture
I think I saw him blink.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 30, 2010 11:07 PM PST reply actions
Fucking whatever. We won the World Series. That’s all that matters.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
by MHizzle on Nov 30, 2010 11:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That used to be all that matters.
Now I want more. MOAR!!
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
What you cannot see in this gif is that Tejada is trying to catch a ball that was hit the previous inning.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Also, the picture makes it look like
he’s got two knees in his left leg.
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT THAT'S SCARY
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Decent bounceback candidate.
I think he’s good for 2-2.5 WAR next season. Also, he’s played more than 150 games each of the last 3 years (that surprised me).
Not a great signing, but not desperate and bad, either. Would still like a Bartlett, however.
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by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
ARE BEE EYE?
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LOL PED'S
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
NOM NOM NOM
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:09 AM PST up reply actions
Pork Chops and RIB EYEZ
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Man, some of you guys have got to stop whining.
This is not a bad signing at all. Uribe got a ridiculous offer, so this is a good plan B to help fill that void. It’s a 1 year deal. It has no long term effect and will help be a stop gap to help give time to guys like Crawford. Honestly, I like this better than what the Dodgers did with Uribe. I wouldn’t have wanted that deal. At the very least there is no long term commitment. Tejada still has a decent bat and offers versatility defensively. he may not have all that much range, but what else is new with the Giants?
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by Effage on Nov 30, 2010 11:12 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
+1
All of the options have flaws. We’re bitching about a 1 war difference in players. And, we get the extra draft pick for losing Uribe.
by giantdonkey on Nov 30, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it really isn’t that bad. And really… is a 1 year deal ever worthy of so much fuss? $6.5m isn’t even that much by baseball’s standards for veterans these days. And honestly, I think he can help the team.
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
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in a weird way, it's encouraging
there was so much angst because of a 1 year deal that was maybe for $2 million more than it ideally should’ve been… and less than a month after the Giants won the World Series.
Any concerns I ever had that we would collectively lose our angst and bitterness are now gone. We’ll still be annoyed at Sabean moves 15 years from now, even if he wins 10 WS in the interim. McC rules.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 1, 2010 1:11 AM PST up reply actions
I am upset because we are paying a guy who will be 37 and hit
.269/.312/.381 last year 6.5 million dollars before we could even explore all the options that could be available.
offers versatility defensively.
In what way? When he has terrible range at SS he can also have terrible range at 3B?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I think it’s unfair to say Sabean hasn’t explored other options. We all know he isn’t the smartest man but I think it’s pretty reasonable to assume he has looked at other options.
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
Well
the nontender deadline is not for another 2 days. We do not even know the full SS market yet. That was what I was getting at.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
this
is absolutely unfair. You cannot criticize a GM because he did not execute .
If I was Minnesota or Tampa Bay at this point I would ABSOLUTELY hold Sabean over the mother-fucking barrel for Bartlett or Hardy. I mean, why not – it’s not like they are screwed if they don’t trade them now. They are average players if everything breaks right… and if they ride the pine or play UT IF for a season it’s hardly the end of the world. Plus, they might be worth even more in May-June when someone contender’s SS gets hurt.
But Sabean HAS to have a SS to start the season. He cannot reasonably go into spring training with Crawford, Burriss, Ehire and Ryan Fucking Rohlinger and pretend the position is covered. If everything breaks RIGHT this year, one of them might make a reasonable backup/late innning sub.
Is Tejada old? Yes. Is Tejada mediocre? Yes. Is $6.5M kind of expensive? Yes. Do you shit .700 OPS SS? I didn’t think so. It’s not a great move, but there aren’t any. Uribe for 3/21 isn’t any better. Renteria for 3 (really I assume he signs for 5M or retires, unless I missed something) would probably be better… but I think Tejada’s a better bet to actually PLAY 150 games.
This move is the exactly equivalent of 2008’s 2/18 for Renteria EXCEPT it’s only 1 year and 50% less.
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by zenbitz on Nov 30, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
does this mean Tejada hits the GW HR in the 2011 WS?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
unfortunatley...
2012. :(
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51 days before the world ends? I’ll go out in peace. I’ve decided not to buy a $1 billion ticket for the ship. I’m gonna get a head start on it and head to Africa, which apparently never flooded
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
You do realize its November 30th
and the season is still a long way off. You make it sound like the season started next week and it was time to scrape the barrel.
And in your rant you also see the problems with this move.
I would have been ok going into the season with Crawford/Burress what have you to save the money. Tejada should have been had for no more than 4 million. And that feels like its pushing it.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
this is where i take issue as well. the season didnt just start… Sabes made a fast move that reeks of panicky because he didnt get uribe back
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
I'm actually okay with it
Given the available talent on the FA market, Tejada was the next best option and when you consider the number of teams that are in need of a SS, if he didn’t feel like he could get a deal done for Bartlett (a non-tender candidate) or Scutaro, then he was right to pull the trigger.
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
OH NO, ANYTHING BUT THAT!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
its a gamble you take. you just won the WS, no one is breathing down your neck if you sit back and let the market come to you.
but if you make what looks like a panic oh-my-god-we-lost-our-ss signing, it just looks incomplete
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
1-year deal
isn’t panic.
5 year, $60 million dollar deals or 7-year deals for soft-toss lefties are panic deals.
The SS market was a shithole. Glad to have one of these guys for only one year. Better than a shitty option with a .300 OBP in decline for 3.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
by The Czar on Dec 1, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
you make a good case.
but are you talking about Tejada as Opening Day SS or wouldn’t you rather pursue JJ Hardy, and have Tejada as the fallback option?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
Hardy isn't going anywhere
Hudson declined Arbitration. Hardy and Nishioka are going to be the up the middle players for the Twins.
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by World Series or Bust on Dec 1, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not so sure
They still like Alexi Casilla quite a bit and I know Nick Punto is something of a fan favorite who could return in a utility role for much cheaper than JJ Hardy. I don’t think theyre committed to moving Hardy but if they can get good return for him I doubt they’ll hesitate.
Thing A
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IF Hardy is traded, that means he’ll be the best SS available. We won’t be the only ones who want him, and I would bet the trades are going to get very, very pricey. Uribe and Tejada both went for quite a bit more than any of us predicted already.
I would love Hardy, but I’d rather overpay in money for Tejada, for one year, than in prospects for Hardy.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Tejada = proverbial "Bird in the Hand"
It’s not a particularly attractive bird. It isn’t a bird I even wanted. It’s old, doesn’t fly all that well, and part of its beak is missing. But it is a bird, and it’s a kind of bird that we needed and we now possess it. And besides, most of the other birds that can be identified in the bushes don’t look all that appealing either. OK, maybe The Hardy bird, the Lowrie bird and the Bartlett bird look all right when obscured by the shadows and leaves of the bushes. But who knows what they’d look like under the cold Mays Field lights, and who knows if we could even capture them, or what it would even take to do so. /metaphor
Not that I expect this to happen, but Sabean could still deal for a shortstop who would relegate Tejada to backup SS/possible starting 3B (Panda pending), the way Ellis Burks’ acquisition in ’98 relegated Joe Carter to a spot-starting RF and key RH-bat-off-the-bench role. So, the jury has to still be somewhat out on this deal, at least until we see what kind of roster we have come next Spring.
So, yeah, I agree that it’s not really fair to criticize Sabean here, given his available options. But I DO criticize Sabean (yes, even now) for continually being forced into these types of moves because of his farm system that has consistently failed to produce productive position players during the entire 14+ years of Sabean’s tenure as GM. Yes, Buster Posey will break that spell for us and maybe Brandon Belt as well. But come on—hundreds and hundreds of players signed over 14 years and only one (so far) is worth keeping? Drafting and developing position player talent continues to be Sabean’s major failing and nowhere is this more glaring right now than at shortstop.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
That's half a farm system
Yes, big-time kudos go to Sabean and Tidrow for producing what is quite possibly the greatest homegrown pitching staff in modern postseason history.
But Sabean is also responsible for developing position players, and in this aspect of his job he has failed miserably up to now. That’s why the Giants have repeatedly had to scrape the bottom of the barrel (often paying exorbitantly to do so) for underwhelming FA’s like Miguel Tejada.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
I agree but some of that is “luck” I mean…for the longest time the Rangers were churning out young bats but could not develop pitching…Braves had great young pitching and no hitting…
Very few (if any) teams have homegrown talents for pitchers and hitters…
Luck?
I think it strains credulity to consider the hundreds and hundreds of position players that Sabean has signed over 14+ years as GM, and say that having only one so far find lasting success (we hope) is a product of luck. It seems far more logical to me—especially considering what we already know about Sabean’s approach to evaluating position players and his disdain for the use of advanced metrics—to say that Sabean is lousy at this aspect of his job.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Um
If Belt works out in a similar way as Posey, and Pablo rebounds, the Giants would have three star-quality position players from their own system.
Can you name another team with that?
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So, in other words, the Giants have one star-quality position player from their system.
I can name quite a few other teams with that.
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That’s not fair either…Panda had every sign of being a star player in 2009 and slumped to average in 2010…
Pablo was exactly average last year.
I can name quite a few other teams with one star-quality position player from their system, as well as an average-to-good position player from their system.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Okay…but if Panda gets to above average and Belt is above average…that’s a pretty good farm system…
Who’s farm system is “better”…
Okay…but if Player X gets to above average and Player Y is above average…that’s a pretty good farm system…
You can wishcast like this with any organization and make the farm system look better than it is. Let’s stick to what we know, not what we wish is true.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
All of these trios are better in the aggregate- Posey is Sabes' only 'sure thing'.
Reds: Joey Votto, Jay Bruce, Yonder Alonso
Yankees: Robinson Cano, Brett Gardner, Jesus Montero
Twins: Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau, Denard Span
Brewers: Ryan Braun, Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks
Rays: Evan Longoria, Carl Crawford, Desmond Jennings, BJ Upton
Red Sox: Kevin Youkilis, Dustin Pedroia, Ryan Westmoreland
Jays: Vernon Wells, Aaron Hill, (Alex Rios)
(player no longer with team)
I can keep going if you’d like.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I think you get the point though.
The teams without at least that much talent are the exceptions, actually.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Nice List!
but show me the PITCHING….
lettuce not forget our strength!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
The pitching is Gorgias.
Lincecum
Cain
Sanchez
Bumgarner
Wilson
Romo
and it only gets longer as we go further into the past
Lowry
Ortiz
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Exactly.
I meant those OTHER (p-u) teams.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
:D
DBacks- worse
Dodgers- worse
Padres- worse
Rockies- worse
Astros- worse
Pirates- worse
Reds- worse
Cardinals-worse
Braves-worse
Marlins-worse
Nationals-worse
Mets-worse
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.
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Orioles-worse
Rays- worse
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Right now...
All we really know is that Posey seems like a legitimate star. And even that’s only after one season. Sandoval’s stardom seemed to be a certainty too after one season, but now his career hangs in the balance. But, I can’t imagine Posey falling off a cliff the way Pablo has. So I count Posey as Sabean’s lone success, to date, from his farm system. Brandon Belt? Still only a prospect—a top grade prospect to be sure, with loads of promise, but still only a prospect who has yet to prove that he is a major league talent.
So, yeah. Right now, I’d say only one. I’m hopeful about Panda and Belt, but I’ve had hope about lots of Giants prospects over the years.
Again, though, we’re talking about hundreds and hundreds of position players over 14+ years. I mean, can you name even one productive, major-league caliber, everyday middle infielder that the Giants farm system has produced since Sabean took over as GM?
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Honestly, I like this better than what the Dodgers did with Uribe. I wouldn’t have wanted that deal.
Breaking News! Ned Colletti is not a good GM. Yes, this is better than signing Uribe for that deal. Almost everything else is. Comparing this signing to the Uribe signing does not tell us anything about the signing in its own right.
At the very least there is no long term commitment.
Your language admits that this is not a desirable option; giving a justification for why it is not too bad doesn’t make anything good.
he may not have all that much range, but what else is new with the Giants?
This is about as wrong as one can get. Why did the Giants experience such an increase in wins from 2008 to 2009? Because their defense got a lot better. How good was the Giants’ team range last year? They were one of the best teams in all of baseball. Replacing our previous shortstop defense with Tejada is not going to help that at all.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
You’re completely missing the point. It is what it is. The Giants plan A was to re-sign Uribe. That didn’t happen. So Tejada helps fill the void for the short term. He offers a decent bat, experience, and the ability to play multiple infield positions. A little pricey? Sure, but are we in there crunching the numbers to know their budget? That isn’t our job.
My language does not admit anything. I think it IS a desirable option. My point was 1 year for Tejada is better than 3 years for Uribe. Yeah, Uribe is much younger, but do we know he’ll be the same player in 2 to 3 years? Tejada is still effective despite age.
No, that was not wrong at all. It is an absolute fact the Giants had very solid gloves (they caught what they got to) but had below average range on the left side of the infield. Sandoval, Uribe, and Renteria are all below-average range players. My point: It worked with them, so it can work with Tejada. Guys like Torres and F. Sanchez excellent range, but I was referring to the left side of the infield.
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It is an absolute fact the Giants had very solid gloves (they caught what they got to) but had below average range on the left side of the infield.
Still wrong. I don’t know what evidence you are using, but Sandoval has been average and Uribe actually above average by multiple metrics.
Sandoval has a -0.7 UZR over three years, while Uribe has been +5.9 as a Giant in two years at two positions and +14.5 over his last five years. DRS confirms these results for both players. Renteria has been a little worse over the five-year period at around -4, but that’s still less than a run per year.
So it’s not an absolute fact that the Giants were below average on the left side of the infield. You know why it worked? Because they weren’t that bad.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Also
Breaking News! Ned Colletti is not a good GM. Yes, this is better than signing Uribe for that deal. Almost everything else is. Comparing this signing to the Uribe signing does not tell us anything about the signing in its own right.
Uribe is not the only alternative. Uribe is not the only alternative. Uribe is not the only alternative. Uribe is not the only alternative. Uribe is not the only alternative.
You’re arguing again based on the premise that because the Tejada signing is better than the Uribe signing, it is a good signing. This premise is wrong. The Uribe signing was a bad mistake. Comparing a thing A to thing B that is really bad does not make thing A good. It only makes it better. And in this case, thing A is still bad.
I can understand why you are ignoring Bartlett, Hardy, Scutaro, Renteria, Lowrie, Brignac, or whomever (Chin-Lung Hu!) and only using Uribe as a reference point; it makes your argument appear much stronger, especially if nobody is around to point out the omissions.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m not saying because the Uribe signing was bad that automatically means the Tejada signing is good. I never said that. However, considering the players we’re talking about, Tejada minimizes the impact of having no Uribe on the field… and the Giants are also not trapped into a multi-year contract. You’ve seriously got to stop whining about it. or, at the very least, accept it, because you have no choice.
Also, you (and many others around here) are coming across extremely arrogant, as if you guys know better than Sabean. Really now? Have you put together a team that won the World Series?
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I’m not saying…the Tejada signing is good.
Yes, you are.
I think it IS a desirable option.
I’m not saying because the Uribe signing was bad that automatically means the Tejada signing is good.
You have said the signing is good, and your only functional argument is comparison to the Uribe signing. As I have said, that argument is invalid, because there are multiple alternate options that are not either the Tejada or Uribe signing.
You really have got to
a) stop making false claims (i.e. the that the left side of the Giants’ infield was below average that I just disproved)
b) stop claiming that you did not say what you did say
c) stop trying to rile me by characterizing me as “whiner” and “arrogant”, because
i. It’s not going to work
ii. Insulting me rather than supporting an argument that is crumbling around you is a tactic I have seen many times, so believe it or not, I will notice when you attempt to do so.
I’m going to go ahead and stop now, because you have repeated, twice, rationales that I have already demonstrated as incomplete and misleading thereby leading to a false conclusion, and because we have descended into the realm of insult rather than analyisis.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Your 2012 SS: Jack Wilson, 1 year, $6.75M
Your 2013 SS: Jason Bartlett, 1 year, $7M
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
I still don’t understand how people in Seattle actually expect me to believe that Jack Wilson and Josh Wilson are not the same person.
Looking at the numbers, Jack is a classic no-hit-all-glove SS, while Josh is the slightly rarer no-hit-no-glove-why-am-I-in-the-majors SS.
Apparently Josh Wilson is Something with Nothing
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That’s an entertaining post.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Everything from LL is either extremely entertaining
Or extremely informative
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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i don't mind this lineup
Torres
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
Ross
Tejada
Sandoval
Schierholtz
that's pretty awful TBH.....
some kind of OBP blackhole 5-9
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Now this is more of a 5-9 black hole.
Torres
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
Ross
Tejada
Sandoval
Schierholtz Rowand
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
Umm, that actually improve the OBP.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Dec 1, 2010 6:54 AM PST up reply actions
I could live with it...
Better than Opening Day 2010. Also, hopefully Belt will come up, Huff can move into the outfield and Schierholtz can come out. I mean, I love Nate, but he can’t really hit. If his bat woke up then we’d have to do some re-arranging.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
yeah
something more like
Torres
Ross
Huff
Posey
Belt
Tejada
Sandoval
Sanchez
would look potentially decent to me (and if you don’t think Belt should be batting 5th, just switch him with Pablo)
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 1, 2010 1:15 AM PST up reply actions
It’ll be Rowand or DeRosa before Nate, I think.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
This just emphasizes how much this team needs to bring back Burrell in case Belt starts in AAA.
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we can't have schierholtz starting
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think he’d be Bochy’s third or fourth choice (at best!) to start in that last outfield spot anyway.
Thing A
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Velez can play OF.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Don't make me say it again
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
He’ll win the job in Spring Training.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Then he won't be in a platoon.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
On the bright side, we’ll now have 22.5 mil coming off the books next year with DeRosa, Sanchez, Affeldt, and now Tejada going into free agency. Maybe by then a 2B or SS prospect will pop up out of nowhere to fill one of those positions and enable us to go for maybe Uggla or Weeks.
Isn't Rowand off the books next year too?
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
better than 3 more years. or 4.
be thankful for only 2 left. i sure as hell am. then, after Rows gone, one more year on Zito, and we’re a franchise that can make big moves again. And what will those moves be?
Sign the boys, lock em down, turn this pitching into a dynasty.
/crazy laughing
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions
we’ve moved into “more than halfway through that contract” with both Rowand and Zito now.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Could be four, if his 2014 option vests (needs average of 200 innings in his last 3, 2, or final year(s)). Costs the Giants “only” an additional $11M because of the $7M option buyout included in his reported $126M guaranteed money.
It will be interesting to see how the Giants manage his innings beginning with this next season. He has pitched in the 190’s for all but one of his four SF seasons to date.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
He has pitched in the 190’s for all but one of his four SF seasons to date.
Still less than 200! I just don’t think he’s really very likely to throw 200 innings in a season ever again. He’s just not good enough. And if he does, great, that means he pitched well and he might come close to justifying the option anyway.
Here are Z’s IP since he came here:
2007 – 196.2
2008 – 180.0
2009 – 192.0
2010 – 199.1 (!!!)
Remember the difference between 190 and 200 IP is only about 1 out per start – so the difference is fairly negligible.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
7 million
I love in a worst case scenario that we pay Zito 500 K more than we will pay Miggy this year not to pitch for us in 2014.
It’s amazing how bad that contract is.
by slcgiant on Dec 1, 2010 1:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
After paying him $126(?) million the Giants have to pay him $7 million more to go away.
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It's actually the best case
The worst case is his option vests and the Giants have to pay him $18M to pitch in 2014.
And yes, it is amazing.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I happen to think the option vesting would be a better scenario than just paying him to go away. If the option vests it will mean he has pitched pretty well, which is obviously good, and that would mean he’d quite likely be worth having back.
I'm hoping he pitches 597 innings
Then we buy him out, then he returns for league minimum salary for his swan song.
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Best case scenario
is Zito getting his Cy Young bonuses.
Giants “fans” rooting against Giants players. Awesome.
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INORITE
also, sandwich.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I like Sanchez
He doesn’t get much love around here, but when he’s hot (as during parts of the playoffs) you can’t get him out. 111 games, 2.7 WAR. That’s PD good if he can stay out of injury trouble.
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by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 1, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
2011 Free Agent SS Class:
JJ Hardy
Jason Bartlett
Miguel Tejada
Edgar Renteria
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:11 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe Hardy
has a crappy season, something like .240/.300/375. Then Sabean has Goldfarb crunch some numbers, Goldfarb declares Hardy is a prime buy low, ripe for a bounce back season and we get Aubrey Huff part II. Hardy goes .290/.360/.480 and the Giants win their third straight World Series in 2012.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I accept, especially the part when Hardy homers off Felix Hernandez to win the WS.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
But I still have dreams about Alexei Ramirez
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I was mostly kidding, I saw the list below. We’ll see how many of the good ones make it through the year without being traded/resigned (!).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
I love the “and now Tejada” part. If we sign some other stopgap veteran for $7M we can have $30M come off the books next year. Progress!
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
The point is that the Giants needed a SS for the coming year…6.5 million is relative cheap and will not hamstring the team to pick up people next year…also Timmy’s deal is coming up
This was why the Giants did not sign Uribe to a 3 year deal..
I get it.
I just found it kind of funny to say he’s “coming off the books” when he wasn’t on the books yesterday.
Also sometimes I laugh at birds.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Stupid birds. Why do they hop like that?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
It’s like they were never meant to walk on the ground but they decided to give it a shot anyway.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Somebody always mentions this number every offseason.
The reality is, by the time arbitration awards, re-signings, and extensions have all been handed out to current Giants and homegrown players, that value will dwindle to about 60% of the original number.
Which will be just enough to sign another Tejada and one more player for a few million, just like this year.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Middle infielders aren't worth what Uggla will want. I'd rather use the bank for corner outfielders or a 3B with power and can field.
Not sure who that is yet, but I keep the powder dry and hope for some clarity in next year’s market of hope for some prospects to develop.
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
JJ Hardy please?
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
How do you know he’s available?
Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 1, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I said yuck, but I would have said yuck to just about anything because to me all the choices suck. It’s like trying to eat at Long John Silvers. No matter what I get, I’m not gonna like it.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 30, 2010 11:18 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Ha.
It’s like trying to eat at Long John Silvers. No matter what I get, I’m not gonna like it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I love Long John Silvers
It was my McD’s growing up… I still love their hushpuppies to this day. Greasy as hell tho.
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I worked in the Long John Silvers marketing department for three years. In California.
Then Alex was born and I had to move on. /I was fired.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
I hope you blamed Alex. It’s clearly his fault.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
I ate at Long John Silvers once.
Once.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
Once more than me
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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Once more than I as well
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Thanks to dre, and speaks for owl here.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
Wait
his name’s pronounced dre-gar-x? not doctor egar x?
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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
dre-garx, actually, yes.
Though the other two are much nicer sounding.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I am pre-med.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I'm so hungry I could eat at Arby's.
What Sabean thought before filling up on Tejada.
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture.
Let's not forget what's most important here, the Giants are World Series champs.
I’m kinda over the Tejada signing, there weren’t many options and well yeah. But, WS Champs.
Hella.
Mrrrgh. Please re-sign Burrell to a one year deal or something.
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by jponry on Nov 30, 2010 11:18 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
IAWTC
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 30, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
+1
The only real problem I have with this deal is if the couple extra million they overpaid keeps them from something like this for a little extra offense.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 30, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah.
But knowing our luck he’s gonna end up in San Diego or something.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Twenty eleven I should think
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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 30, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
or Arizona since he lives in Scottsdale.
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yes bring back
the other half of the super friends
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Yes
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 30, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
good question
Who are they thinking is going in LF? Counting on DeRosa? Run Nate out in RF until Belt comes along? Rowand?
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:14 AM PST up reply actions
Now that would be a panicky move. Shortstops are scarce, but corner outfielders are everywhere, and a bunch of them are going to be moving around soon. Burrell’s a fine fallback, but why not look for something better first?
But where are you going to find someone like Burrell at his price on a one-year deal?
I think we like Burrell because it’s reasonable to expect a 1-year deal AND expect him to be ok with a part-time role.
That leaves the door open to move Belt into a part-time role in 2011 and full-time role in 2012, but leaves a satisfactory lineup in 2011 if Belt isn’t ready.
The thong is, it happened.
I don’t want someone like Burrell. I want someone good.
I mean, we already have not one but two backup plans to the backup plan, in DeRosa and Rowand.
Burrell was pretty good as a Giant last year.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Sure, a little bit. If the .370 OBP DeRosa comes back, he’s clearly the best of them, but that’s a long shot.
But that’s not the point. The question is, do we commit to Burrell as our left fielder and call it an off-season, or do we keep our options open and keep hunting for a real contributor? I’m taking the latter course, since even if Burrell signs elsewhere and we’re left holding the bag, we’re already paying a couple of left-field candidates who aren’t much worse than Burrell is.
I say commit to Burrell
The “real contributor” you’re looking for is Belt, with Huff in LF.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I don’t think you can plan that way, unless you’re talking about a Posey-esque superprospect. If Belt is good enough right now that you can count on him to make a major contribution this year, then you don’t need Burrell as a stopgap. If he isn’t, then you should be looking for the best left fielder you can find.
I'm just thinking about what happens if Belt starts the year in AAA
If we don’t have Burrell, that means Rowand or Schierholtz starts.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
There’s always Flappy.
Flappy – Gazelle – Boss
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Well yeah, but you said no Pat!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
You misspelled canteloupe.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Is cause I missed that meme.
Why canteloupe? Is it related in any way to Alex Lewis’s zucchini?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Someone (sanfrankid?) mistakenly referred to him as a “canteloupe” when they meant “antelope”. Mass hilarity ensued.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Ah
Then what the heck was that pic with his head on a zucchini?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Someone else will have to field that one. I always just laugh at that in a “lolwut?” type of way.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
?

"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hey roto
so Columbus was alright… went to this really good pizza place downtown, near o’patio
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Cool. O’patio is in campus (not downtown. Columbus actually has a legit downtown). You must have gone to Flying Pizza, which is nearby on High Street. Good work, that place has really good NY style pizza.
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We won the World Series!
That alone kind of makes me meh on this. I don’t like how we had to pay him 6.5 million, but at least it’s only one year.
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He is not going to do that.
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Um, no.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I really think it would have been Neal/Runzler or something similar for either of those two.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
I really think that if they end up getting traded, it will be for a C+/B- level relief prospect.
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That said
if you think Tejada and Bartlett are similar players (and they really are), considering Bartlett will probably get about $6mil in arb and he’s only under team control one more year, I’d rather just get Tejada for one year without having to give up anything else.
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I don’t know what Bartlett would cost or whether it’s worth the difference (I’d much rather Hardy or Scutaro anyway), but age is a big factor here. I used BBR’s Play Index to find shortstops over 36 who posted a WAR of 2 or higher. There are only 8 matches in the past 50 years.
I think he posted 1.5 last year and should be expected to post a bit less this year. If wins are $4.5m this offseason, then this is a slight overpay.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
I’m really not sure I like that…
Maaaaaaaaaybe for Hardy. Heck no for Bartlett.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Hey no for Hardy
He’s under contract for ONE YEAR. At his absolute peak, he’d provide, what, 5 WAR?
I think Runzler and Neal, with a combined 10+ years of control, will exceed that.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
but
5 WAR in 1 season is vastly more valuable than 10 in 10 player/seasons, even divided over 2 players.
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I was being very generous to Hardy
His highest ever season is 4.9.
But I understand your point. Of course one season of 5 is more valuable. But I think that Neal/Runzler over the course of their team control will exceed that by orders of magnitude, not marginally.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Wouldn’t Hardy also be a type A and net us picks if he left?
Thing A
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I read Grant’s post as Runzler OR Neal, not both. Heck no for both. Still maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe for one of them. Probably Runzler. But that is a very indefinite maybe.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Unless you think Runzler is likely to become a decent starter, there’s almost no way he’s as valuable as one year of a 5 WAR SS.
Right now I think Runzler is our best bet as a decent starter if one of the five go down. Which is the basis of my reluctance to trade him. Also, going back to the SS market…if teams are overpaying for free agents than they’ll also end up over-paying for trades. As a general rule I’d rather overpay in money than prospects.
But…Runzler for Hardy? I would live.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
This is another one that interests me: Runzler as a starter. Career starts:2.
Dick Tidrow and Co. know more than me so I’m sure there’s potential there, but I’m not ready for Runzler as the answer to any question except “who pitches if Affeldt gets hurt” or “who’s pinch-bunting for Eugenio?”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Do you have a better answer? ‘Cause I don’t. And until we do…
Also, if you’re going to trust the org with judgments on anything…you’ve got to trust them with judgments on pitchers. Hopefully it won’t be necessary to have him start in SF next year at all. And if he comes up it’ll either be as a September call-up or as long relief.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
No that’s my point, they need a better answer as an emergency starter, because the luck of the starters last year may not/will not be repeated.
I don’t like counting on Runzler as a starter or DeRosa for anything. If they work out in those roles great. Others have suggested Affeldt as a possible starter, and he at least has done that before.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Affeldt…? Now there’s something that didn’t occur to me. Its been long enough that its not a particularly ideal option either, but experience has to count for something, right?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Not my suggestion, I’m just irresponsibly repeating it. I also saw a post from someone who talked to someone who heard from someone that he prefers/still wants to start. Anyway, I agree it’s a problem but worry that Runzler isn’t the solution.
Also, it’s nice to root for a team that has those kind of “problems” rather than the kind that involve Molina hitting cleanup.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Irresponsible repetition is informative :p. I’d wouldn’t be adverse to giving Affeldt a couple of starts and seeing what happens. Especially considering the chances of someone (Sanchez or MadBum?) running into a wall this year because of all the extra innings are pretty high.
And yes, I like these sorts of problems quite a bit. The “IF so-and-so gets injured then what do we do?” problems are a lot better than “Oh crap, starting line-up, what do we do?” ones…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I don’t think you can just do that with a guy who has pitched an inning at a time for years. And like you said, I’m not questioning their pitcher judgment so I’m sure there’s a reason they started messing with Runzler (other than just trying to pretend he’s trade bait).
Looking forward to the annual scrapheap pitcher spring training extravaganza!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’m assuming they’d warn him first (like now) and there would be some preparation happening before hand…
But yeah, agree on Runzler and ST. How many days are we at? Someone has to be counting down…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I have the very same question.
It’s not a particularly reasonable feeling.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Even if he did, Wheeler would end up sucking. If we keep him, he’ll probably throw 8 shutout innings in game 4 of the World Series.
by kingofthacove on Dec 1, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
Ok with this
I’ll take Tejada at twice the cost of Rent just for the durability factor. They are basically the same player otherwise.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Nov 30, 2010 11:20 PM PST reply actions
More Reason!
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uzr/150 does
Last three years Tejada averaged 0, Renteria 2. That strikes me as about a run high for each: my eyes see Tejada as slightly below average, Renteria as average.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
that's within the error bars
they’re both -5 to 0 ish.
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I was goign to say
If we can win the WS with Renteria as a $9 million SS, we can certainly win it with Tejada as a $6.5 million shortstop.
The thong is, it happened.
Amounts of Uribe at SS may vary.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Which one describes your reaction to the Tejada signing?

I’m with Redshirt.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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at first i was like the guy in the back
but now i’m like redshirt
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Redshirt knows he’s going to die.
/trek’ed
by non sequitur on Nov 30, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Fun Fact:
This is where the term psh…. came from
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
I’m the guy whose face is half-concealed, so it’s not quite clear what his feelings are.
by non sequitur on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I would be the flume
constantly getting run over by douchebags.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
the guy behind redshirt looks like bobby kielty
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This is exactly how I felt about the A’s in ’88
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
I'm the guy with the glasses

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by Natto on Nov 30, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My friends and I were going to try stuff like this at Disneyland.
My ultimate goal is a recreation of the Last Supper on Tower or Terror.
And of course I got dibs on big arms thing.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LOL That was my first reaction too
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Funny. That’s the first thing I thought when I saw this pic, too.
by non sequitur on Nov 30, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Where’s the bird tho
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 30, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, same thought. And when I saw Natto posted it, I really believed it for a second. I mean, if anyone other than Howie is going to have access to Howie’s home pictures, it’d probably be Natto. Or anyone else who reads this site, I guess.
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
That is not me. I do have an amusement ride picture, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
In fact, I have two. I’m not going to post them here, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
But to appease you, I will post this image:

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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Wow. It’s Grant’s boss.
Why does that look like it’s in the middle of a residential area?
by non sequitur on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Haven’t you ever seen Napoleon Dynamite?
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Well, that's cause it sucked.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Wait, there’s going to be a Napoleon Dynamite television series???
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Animated television series!
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I’m sure it will be a hit.
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It will be a big hit in Utah.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I agree with you 2
I kept waiting for that movie to be funny and it never was
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Nah, it was some kind of grainy alfalfa-y, smelly concoction.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I think I just need a picture of myself throwing myself down the stairs, and then I’ll have one that covers just about every meme on the site.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
haha, this may be true, we should just have a fanshot of every
howie picture EVER, that might be a good option
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I would say redshirt, but then again I’ve had that expression on my face since Nov 1…
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Nov 30, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with black shirt
He doesn’t know what the heck is going on or how these tools dragged him onto this log. All he knows is that there is a camera and he is supposed to look at it.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Cost analysis
The way I see it, Sabean just saved $10 million dollars. Declining option on Renteria saved us $9 million, and Uribe commanded $7 elsewhere totaling a potential $16 million. Tejada is commanding $6.5 from us, and we freed up another roster spot since Uribe and Renteria would be two. I know it’s bad logic, but it sounds good, right?
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
I can’t argue the logic, but I can point out that it’s not Sabean’s money…
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
plus a draft pick
for Uribe
# 24
by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
arb $$ to tendered players takes the $10mil and turns it to dust.
Sanchez and Wilson will probably make $18mil combined next year after making $6mil this year I think it was
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
Who is the backup SS?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, Posey.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
This
Given the available SS, I think the idea of Posey as the starting SS isn’t all that far fetched. If he has sure hands, he’s bound to be similar from a defensive perspective to Tejada and his bat would be plus plus for a SS.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
the circle of liiiiife...
and who is the starting C?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Pablo Sandoval, silly
He is the answer to everything this offseason.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a lot more serviceable catchers available at lower prices, than there are SS.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
I heard that last year, right before Molina was signed for $6M.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
this is kinda what I’m hoping for now. Baggs mentioned that it was likely a veteran would be brought in to compete/back-up Tejada on a pretty cheap deal. I know Fontenot’s D is pretty suspect at SS, and I see the case for a strong defensive SS option on the bench, but I don’t think there’s a better overall middle infield option available for the 1-1.5 mil it would probably take to keep Font.
Thing A
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He sure beats Amare Stoudamire
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I dunno… dude averages 9 boards per game every season, and will pass 5000 this season.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
But Landry Fields rebounds better than him.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know who that is, and I don’t care to find out.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Fear the Tree
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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"We won the World Series!"
It feels amazing to type… but once the season starts, it is NOT all that matters.
Once the season starts, we’ll need 1 more ’ship to pass the Dodgers (tied at 8 now)
THAT’S all that will matter to me, come opening day.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 PM PST reply actions
The Dodgers only have 6 in the ‘modern’ era.
Does that ‘8’ count championships won when they were the Bridegrooms or Superbas or some damn thing?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Nov 30, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Brooklyn Dodgers in the 19th century, unless I’m tripping absolute balls (I have been known to make mistakes… from time to time)
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
The Franchise Formerly Known In Brooklyn has only won six titles as the "Dodgers."
1955, 1959, 1963, 1965, 1981, 1988.
Anything prior to that would have been as the Superbas, Bridegrooms or some damn thing.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Nov 30, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
You’re right… the Giants have 6 too, so they’re still tied.
(Of course, we’d have 7 if it weren’t for 1904)
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe.
McGraw refused to play. No guarantee the Giants win if he doesn’t do his old-man-yelling-at-cloud routine.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Nov 30, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
or 7 if McCoveys liner is 3’ higher. or 7 if 2002 happened. or 7 if…
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
You unburied those bones pretty quickly.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
nah, theyre buried for me. but for the purposes of arguing with a Dodger fan, I’ll dig em up
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve been called many things, but never a Dodgers fan. Take it back, sir.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Dec 1, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
He’s probably referring to DodgerFaninPackerLand
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I just realized that… although he replied to my post in a facetious manner, so I got defensive.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
are there advanced metrics for your defensiveness?
because you sure scooped that one up fast ;)
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
that was meant for dodgerfan, who i feel is starting to defect to the good guys’ side.
isnt that right, dodgerfan?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
The Good Guys went bankrupt years ago.
So did Circuit City.
I do my shopping online now.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Dec 1, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
i worked at Circuit City 7 years ago in college. I’m not surprised they went backrupct.
Very, very poorly run.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
i do like how you avoided my question, though :)
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
Your question was poorly phrased.
Please restate.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Dec 1, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
ARE YOU GONNA BECOME A GIANTS FAN, EVIL MORDOR FAN?
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
Make you a deal.
If Lea Michele shows up at my door in the next five seconds, with or without clothing, I’ll renounce my Dodger loyalties.
5…4…3…2…1.
Alas. I shall struggle on.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Dec 1, 2010 1:00 AM PST up reply actions
struggle is the key word there. wait, she didnt show up? ill call again
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
Price of my eternal soul has gone up. Heather Morris too, please.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Dec 1, 2010 1:06 AM PST up reply actions
It was outside my zone, like Torres fielding a fly to left in Burrell’s face.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Dec 1, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll toss ya a 20 on the UZR for that one
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
Well, sure.
If things which definitely happened had happened differently, you’d have 7.
But you don’t get the kewpie doll for just showing up, which is what i’m saying about 1904. That’s all.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Dec 1, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
booo-hoooohooohooo. it was 100 years ago. get over it pal. Titanic hadn’t even sunk yet. Or even been built, I’d imagine
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
Uncle Pat?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions
Uribe's a better player but not for 3 years.
Tejada is a lot of meh, but isn’t Scutaro/Rohlinger/etc. But holy shit, this payroll is going to be huge, and i dont trust sabean with a high payroll. And will bowtie actually spend on the draft?
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST reply actions
Scutaro is a lot better than Rohlinger.
Heck, he’s one season removed from a 4.3 WAR season. Clearly not in the same category.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Team payroll is high
But the playoff payroll was low
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
is there anyway i can get in on that adopt a giant thing next year?
Or is there a waiting list? Or something?
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST reply actions
Relevant Repost
The Giants signed Tejada as insurance for:
Freddy’s shoulder falling off
DeRosa’s wrist falling off
Panda accidentally eating a table
Huff’s throng chafing off his balls
Burrell being arrested for male prostitution
Buster being blinded by Wilson’s awesome
Bumgarner chewing his lip off
Jonathan being unable to find his lane in his favorite bowling alley
Timmy smoking too much pot
Torres losing his medication
Ross quitting baseball to be a rodeo clown
Ishikawa quitting baseball to be an underwater rock
Schierholtz losing his high socks
Zito getting lost in the back of a meme
Cain getting lost in a museum and having everyone forget that he was there
Wilson getting lost in his beard
The entire bullpen getting lost in Wilson’s beard
Rowand running into a wall while in a meadow
So, overall, a good move.
by garbanzo24 on Nov 30, 2010 11:30 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I quoted this on Tumblr and got forty likes for it in two hours. You should be proud.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, what’s your tumblr? I’m sure I want to follow you.*
*This sounds creepy, it’s not intended to, but I don’t know how to not make it sound creepy.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
What, and let all these other bums know?!?!?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
You can email it to me!
Or not. Whatever. I’m getting used to rejection lately.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Are you doing that thing in the news about the people training themselves to accept rejection? That sounded like THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD WORSE EVEN THAN THAT PICTURE OF URIBE AND COLETTI
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
No, I have no idea what that’s about. But I will say that low expectations are the key to happiness.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
It's essentially
UUUUU-Ribe
3 Years/21 Million
vs
Tejada
1 Year/6.55 Million
Compensation Pick
I guess I’ll take it. We need to find at least at minimal a defensive replacement for the Left infield.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Trade for Vizquel to play behind 2nd base.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I don't think that we'll net a comp pick for Tejada
At 37 (38?) he’s much more likely to take us to arb and get 8 million. No one is going to give him more than a year. That is, unless Ned wants to make another ill-advised multi-year signing.
I wanted Scutaro or Bartlett because I would think them more likely to decline. Then again, we would have had to trade a prospect or two to get them, so I guess it’s a lateral move.
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
At 37 (38?) he’s much more likely to take us to arb and get 8 million.
At least the Uribe money will be available to backfill that amount!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
I wanted Scutaro or Bartlett because I would think them more likely to decline.
It took me a while to work out the logic behind this sentence.
People think way, way, way too much about gaming the arb system to pick up extra draft picks. It’s tricky to do, and it can distort your decision-making.
At any rate, I think the OP was talking about the pick we get for losing Uribe.
I think he means the compensation pick we get for not re-signing Uribe.
by kingofthacove on Dec 1, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
This.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
hope Ludwick is non-tendered and thats our LF Opening Day
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
I don't really have much else to add, so here's this thing

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by Natto on Nov 30, 2010 11:34 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
That’s the 0073735963rd greatest thing I’ve ever seen.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
I still remember the game genie code for infinite lives in Mario 3. sxiopo
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell needs a code for infinite lives in Mario 3?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
GAMER BURN!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I did when I was 10, apparently.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I still remember the code to get stage select and Super Sonic in Sonic 2.
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007 373 5963
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
while there is pretty much no such thing as a bad one year contract
this contract, plus the option/buyout is a hell of a lot to pay for a player with no OBP, little power, and bad defense.
At least the bad defense won’t hurt them much, considering the lack of grounders. Cabrera would have been better.
thought i read it upthread
But a second read makes it looks like he was talking about Scutaro
Doesn’t change my opinion too much – still Sabean hoping to get lucky like with Huff.
I should have complained more about the overpayment. Really, Tejada shouldn’t have gotten more than $4M. He’s a husk.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I think what this offseason has shown so far is that there is more money than talent
Did Tejada deserve a raise after his year last season? No. Did John Buck or Joaquin Benoit deserve 3 years? No. But teams have money in a weak FA class and they’re going to use it. So (now) I’m okay with giving Tejada a ~2M raise instead of guaranteeing him a 2nd year (like Detroit did with Jhonny Peralta-another defensively challenged SS)
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I’d be tempted to take on the second year for Peralta, actually, but you’re probably right.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 30, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on how you think his SS defense will hold up
He doesn’t have the power for 3B.
His career UZR/150 is -5.4
If he can hold that he’s probably worth 2 years. If he declines then it could get bad quickly
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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It does seem to be a good time to be mediocre.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 1, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
FINALLY MY TIME TO SHINE!
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No way you can out-mediocre Howie.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 1, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
I mean, this post and his sig line really proves that:
Re: The Wire
I’ll watch it some year.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Not if I have anything to say about it!
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Wait. I misread something.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
He’s terrible. I laughed when the Padres traded for him. (Although I was a bit surprised when he ended up being decent for them in 50ish games…)
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
DAMN YOU SABEAN
that’s $2.5 MILL YOU OWE US!
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Anyone else hoping Ludwick is non-tendered and Sabes swoops? LFer. check.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
aside from the disaster that Ludwick in SD was, he’s a solid player
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Dudwick to Studwick
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 1, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Ludwick
The question I have about Ludwick is whether he is the hitter he was in ST.L when he had Pujois and Holliday or if he was the hitter we saw in SD when he did not. In other words – See Rowand, Aaron.
I believe Hoyer has said that he'll tender Ludwick a contract
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damn… that’d be a sweet scoop if he didn’t. Shit, the Pads love mediocre players, and we’ve got a bunch of extras, Velez, Ish, Nate, etc… maybe he’d make a trade.
Not possible? probably not
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, Hoyer is a good GM
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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He could have 2 from his Boston days
IDK if asst. GM’s get rings
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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i would think they do.
The ultimate curse of the man who eventually invents the time machine is that it will only be able to make one trip, and when he gets back EVERYONE will have a better idea for what to do with that one trip than what he actually did.
Proud Parent of the palm tree outside of AT&T Park. Yeah, that palm tree.
by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
RAGE: Giants merchandise-related story from earlier today
So I went to a “Lidz” store in the mall just to browse. They had not ONE SF Giants hat in the entire store. There were Yankees hats, Mariners hats, A’s hats, Dodgers hats, Boston hats, even Pittsburgh Pirates hats, but not a single Giants hat. Here is the conversation that I would’ve had with the store clerk if I didn’t have social anxiety disorder:
Me: Hey, I’m looking for a hat of the team that won the World Series.
Clerk: Umm…
Me: Of baseball. Not poker.
Clerk: Oh, maybe you’d like this Yankees hat.
Me: Yeah, because the World Series was between the Yankees and the Red Sox, just like it is every year. Or that’s what ESPN would like to have us think. I guess winning the World Series (of American Major League Baseball, not poker) gets you nothing. I’ll just have to hope our hats become in vogue with gang members in order to get you to sell them. GOOD DAY, SIR, I BID YOU GOOD DAY!
[exeunt]
by Murray, Present on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 AM PST reply actions
Lidz is expensive
I was gonna buy a Sharks hat (I’m not a fan of the Sharks, but the hat was cool) and then I saw it was $33.
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Yeah, I wouldn't have actually bought something from there
But it’s the principle of the thing.
by Murray, Present on Dec 1, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah that is pretty messed up
That there are no Giants hats
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If you said the secret word, they would have sold you one of these...

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
BOO!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
Hat abortions for some, miniature American flags for others?
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i saw that hat in a ‘Lidz’ mall store a few months ago. i took it off the rack, dropped it on the floor, and walked out. guy working there came out and said “excuse me sir, i think you dropped your hat.”
I didn’t bother taking a free dodger blue SF hat.
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Wait, is Rowand honestly in the Prime 9 of center fielders? REALLY
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
No, it has to do with catches in the regular season. And that was a pretty ridiculous catch.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I’m not going to hate on the catch. I just about lost my shit thinking that he was #8 in the top 9 centerfielders of all time.
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
Kevin Mitchell was next. I’ll just patiently wait for the Linden catch against the Nationals or Expos or whomever.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
I remember him making a diving catch in RF, where he dove backwards-toward triples alley
Without looking at the stats, I’ll just assume he was Nate Schierholtz before Nate Schierholtz
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I remember the Nationals announcer's catch
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by Natto on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do I love that movie? Because I do.
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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Because Lee Ving is in it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
I saw FEAR in concert once
Lee Ving was ALSO in an episode of Who’s the Boss…
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Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I guess at this point we could just look him up on IMDB...
hmmm guess we got the highlights.
Although pretty funny that he was in BOTH Flashdance AND 2 episodes of “Fame” (the Tv series)
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
So...
How about them Niners?
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/singletary demonstrates that punch them in the mouth works.
As long as you find a team even worse in the trenches than yours.
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No one wins this argument
Weak SS FA market. Who wants to bet on April 1st we’ll know there was a much better deal that Sabes didn’t anticipate? I didn’t think so.
We’re going to be better in ’11 reg season than ’10. But that may not be enough.
# 24
by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 1, 2010 12:22 AM PST reply actions
why wouldnt that be enough? no one in our division is making themselves better.
The dodgers? they signed Uribe and Garland. nah
Padres? lightning doesnt strike twice
Diamondbacks? sleepers, but still wont win 90 games
Rockies? they haven’t done anything
Phillies? just getting older every year
Braves are the only team that scares me so far
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
because
it took 162 games to win the West last year? Or in other words, the maximum number of games to win the division before I lost my mind and ultimately became a street urchin stinking of my own urine?
…That really was a hell of a year.
yes
and Dodgers have great starting pitching and Ethier and Jazz Hands. But we should have a winning record against Pads next year. God I hope so.
And the braves, exactly: Prado + Uggla + Heyward in year 2. They ought to be tough.
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by tinkerstoeverstochance on Dec 2, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Key words: one year
if he has a bounce back season and manages one last decent year then great. If he sucks, then you release him and go with either Crawford or Adrianza, whoever seems more ready. This was a sensible signing and better than waiting for a better alternative that might not have come about.
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by crazedcrustacean on Dec 1, 2010 12:24 AM PST reply actions
still should have been had for $4.5-5 mil though. it’s the overpaying thats gotta stop, too.
except when it comes to Timmeh, Cain, Wilson and Sanchez. Overpay. Please
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
This
Who cares about the overpaying? Aren’t I always being told that we are a high revenue team? Its the years that really hurt, not the $.
Tejada gets a $2.5 million bonus for becoming a free agent in an offseason with a thin SS market. Supply and demand ftw.
Or he has a good year, you don’t want to pay to resign (suck it delorean!) him, he goes to LA and go with either Frandsen Burriss Bocock Rohlinger Leone Ochoa Figueroa DeLaRosa, whoever seems more ready. Then sign someone else to a 1-year deal next year.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
From the LA Times
The San Francisco Giants wanted to hold onto Juan Uribe — enough to where they made the infielder a last-minute offer similar to the three-year, $21-million contract he ended up signing with the Dodgers, according to a baseball source who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation.
Link Staff and wire reports [November 30, 2010|11:03 p.m.]
The “anonymous baseball source” strikes again.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
i think we went over that, and apparently a Giants official said that never happened. The Dodgers offered Uribe $20 mil, and when he got the offer, he told the Giants he wanted $25. SF said no, you can have $20 though, and Uribe went to Dodgers for $21.
that’s what Schulman says, anyhow
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
Angry Sabes is angry
“obviously Juan Uribe wanted to be a Dodger more than he wanted to be a Giant.”
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 1, 2010 5:17 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Stupid Ned is stupid
“We didn’t want Uribe because we were raiding the Giants, we wanted him because of his clutch hitting in the post season.” If you gave him all of that money because of SSS, why not give it to Renteria instead?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Dec 1, 2010 5:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
If this happened,
I wish three seasons of missing sliders and pulled hammies upon him.
by D-T on Dec 1, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
The Bums overpaid for Uribe because they wanted to stick it to their Divisional rivale. The rumor was that the Dodgers were the ones who made Huff the ridiculous offer also.
The Bums were going to go out of their way to wreak havoc on the Giants. The only problem is that their every day lineup in Dodger stadium will continue to be very average or below. Don’t think Uribe is going to replicate his offensive numbers in Dodger stadium – very unlikely.
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Well goodnight all
hopefully I will sleep off some of this rage.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
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yeah I’m about to hit the hay too. night man/woman
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
tryin’ to be PC, yknow?
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
cool . . .
unless it isnt. Keep the roster of insurgents close. Keep the insurgents closer.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
NO MLB NETWORK
TOMMY LASORDA IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT ONE OF THE MOST BELOVED PEOPLE IN THE GAME.
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:32 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
HOW DARE YOU SPREAD THESE LIES!!!
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Better lies than the truth at the moment….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Dear MLB Network:
The San Francisco Giants, the current tyrants of all the world, question your loyalty.
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this is what it comes down to for me
1. Giants player you like very much signs with Dodgers.
2. Giants sign similar player (that you don’t like very much) to replace him.
For this year, from an objective baseball standpoint, it’s a wash, maybe a little worse. But from an emotional one, it’s noooooo!!!!, it’s yuck. I wasn’t ready for this. It’s really got in the way of my basking.
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
This.
I’m really really really not looking forward to the next time I see the jazz hands.
Just focus on the moments Uribe really pissed you off. I can think of several. good riddance.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
I have decided I would like the Giants to sign Carlos Pena, and move Huff to LF.
Torres
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
Pena
Ross
Sandoval
Tejada
I could live with that.
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my dick holds my pants up
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
wait, this isn’t about me…
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
Or your prehensile penis.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
Pena? then have what happens what Belt comes?
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
Pena dies and we collect the insurance.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I could live with that also. I think Pena has a bounce back year. What is he scheduled to make?
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by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Uribe is better defensively than Tejada
And Bartlett provides a little speed and maybe better OBP, while Tejada is a dingerz guy. That said, I would only have been willing to give up Ray, RamRam or both to get Bartlett, which may not have been enough.
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Dec 1, 2010 12:39 AM PST reply actions
I wouldn't want Sabean to do this
But Willie Harris looks like a good get for a team willing to take a flier on him as a 4th/5th outfielder and part-time (maybe emergency) infielder. Maybe the Mariners?
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
Oh, God. It's the Ruben Rivera game.
I was there for that. Dear God, why was I there for that???
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 12:46 AM PST reply actions
they’re screwing up again, broadcasting about Operation Panda. i dont want them to be telling the outside world, including us, what is going on with him.
the less pressure on him, the better, IMO
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
agreed
considering its only been a month and he has lost 10 lbs that means they are doing something right.. but like you said, I dont want to hear about it again for the rest of the offseason. i would rather he just start spring training looking like Ryan Howard after he lost the weight.
well, not as ugly as howard, but weight wise, sure
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A friend apparently ran into him at the airport over Tgiving weekend and posted a picture. I thought he looked pretty good.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Can you procure said picture?
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
i guess i could crop her out but that seems like a lot of work
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I totally cropped two people out of the picture I posted of myself today. And that was all while “writing” this paper.
Just 11 pages to go!
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Give her the Bochy Blur.
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IS HE OK?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
He also lost a bunch of weight last offseason
before putting it all back on in Venezuela just before ST.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
All things considered...
Not a bad signing. I honestly didn’t like any of our other options (aside from a cheaper Uribe), either, so a one-year deal for a guy who might be mediocre or might have a rebound is a gamble I’m fine with. The price is just fine, and we don’t have to give a draft pick to the Padres.
Dear Lord, when did we start agreeing with every decision Bochy and Sabean make?
i think you started agreeing here.
im not sold, but meh, what are ya gonna do?
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by giant4life83 on Dec 1, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
alright nite all, im off to crash out
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SL

Then I meh’d.
Initially I didn’t like that we paid more than a bag of rocks for him, but it is nice to have a somewhat solid SS option.
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Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
What’s a handegg, anyway?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions
OT: handegg question
Can a team set up for a field goal attempt any distance they want behind the line of scrimmage? Say you’re at point-blank range and you have a reasonably competent long snapper and kicker. Can you set up a couple or more yards further back than normal in order to further reduce the risk of a blocked kick?
Good question, but I think problems are (1) getting the ball back to the holder promptly, since the snap will be more loop-y (changing from a shotgun snap to a punt snap), (2) FG blocking is not conducive to holding blocks for more time, and (3) the kicker/holder would be deeper and less protected on the outside, which is where rushers are hard to keep out and almost reach the ball every kick now.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:44 AM PST up reply actions
I see.
I was watching the Boise State game against Nevada-Reno last Friday. The BS kicker had a chance to win it with 1 second left in regulation with a chip shot from inside the 10. The kick wasn’t blocked, but I think he might have been freaked out by a strong rush from NR. He also missed a 29-yarder in OT.
They should’ve tried a drop-kick then. I think you can do that from anywhere behind the line of scrimmage.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve heard about the kick, but I haven’t been able to find out where the ball was placed. If it was stuck on the hashmark, I really feel for the kid. Those college hashmarks are so ridiculous that when you get into what should be “chipshot” territory, you’re actually talking about some pretty stupid angles to kick the ball at. I actually think kicking in college is harder than kicking in the NFL from a purely technical standpoint because of that.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Of course it is! That’s why colleges have to pay attention to which direction they are running plays to get the ball to the middle of the field. Or should. And why they should have left hashes alone in the NFL /starts internet campaign to get great injustice reversed.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Was the Boise kicker on the hash, though? That’s all I really want to know.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
It was pretty much in the middle of the field. He just pushed it a little bit, and I mean a little bit. I couldn’t tell watching on TV whether or not it was good.
Ah. Sucks to be him, then.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it was right in the middle of the field. The kick tailed rather than hooked. It was a screwball rather than a slider. (I’ve used up my handegg vocabulary.)
by non sequitur on Dec 1, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
2012 FA shortstops
Jason Bartlett (32)
Yuniesky Betancourt (30) – $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Ronny Cedeno (29)
Rafael Furcal (34) – $12MM club/vesting option
Alex Gonzalez (34)
J.J. Hardy (29)
Omar Infante (30)
John McDonald (37)
Augie Ojeda (37)
Jose Reyes (29)
Jimmy Rollins (33)
Ramon Santiago (32)
Marco Scutaro (36) – $6MM club option/$3MM player option with a $1.5MM buyout
Miguel Tejada (38)
Jack Wilson (34)
Yikes, 3B is ugly too.
Jose Bautista (31)
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) – $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Mark DeRosa (37)
Edwin Encarnacion (29)
Wes Helms (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Aramis Ramirez (34)
Miguel Tejada (38)
Omar Vizquel (45)
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
unless they get resigned (hahahaaha) before the end of the year, in which event Sabean will be calling the same agents he just finished talking to this year, about the same guys.
Also, Omar Vizquel is a SS. Forever. Thank you.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
yea, if he has another good year he’ll be crazy expensive, if he doesn’t then I don’t want him….
Thing A
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He won't be a FA
Dayton will lock him up
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions
The money saved on the 2008 Giants ($76M total payroll) never made its way back to the roster, so I don’t see why the 2011 payroll should affect the possible 2013 free agents
FWIW, I think some of that probably went to prospects. In 2008, Posey, Rodriguez, and Gillaspie cost us almost $10M. By comparison, this year Gary Brown signed for $1.5M, and no one else signed for more than $700,000.
¿Que?
Sez there’s a $500K bonus for Miggy.
Miguel Tejada firmó con los Gigantes de San Francisco por un año y 6.5 millones de dólares, además de un bono por 500 mil dólares.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Schulman
General manager Brian Sabean would not discuss any numbers but said, “He obviously wanted to be a Dodger more than he wanted to be a Giant. He didn’t give us a chance to keep pace (in negotiations).”
http://www.fanfeedr.com/mlb/2010/12/01/tejada-steps-in-after-uribe-leaves
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Didn’t Sabes say after signing Huff that Uribe wasn’t their top priority or something? I dunno, he made it sound like there wasn’t any urgency to get something done with him. I can see how that would turn a guy off a bit.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I thought Sabes said that there was mutual interest in getting a deal done soon, but that they were far apart in ballpark figures, terms-wise. That was probably when Uribe was asking for 3/25.
I can see how Uribe would’ve been distrustful of Sabean after 2009 though, when he put up a good season and didn’t get asked back until Freddy has his hush-hush surgery.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I too wonder if he had that in mind, and I think he had to wonder what he had to do to get a multi-year deal from SF. I don’t blame him for that.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
For once
It sounds like Sabean is telling the truth. There are multiple sources saying that Uribe spurned either a $21M or $20M deal from the Giants and did so without giving the Giants to increase their bid, so I say SUCK IT URIBE you and Russell Martin can join Vin Scully in sucking it.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
LOL BITTER
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Yeah, I’m a bit disappointed that Sabes returned to his passive-aggressive quote-making with the press regarding a player who helped the Giants finally win a World Series.
Would it have killed him to say something like, “We wanted Uribe back, we offered him a three-year deal but the Dodgers offered more money. We thank him for all that he did for us and wish him good luck in the future.”
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Sure, it's all just business
Which is exactly why you should take the high road if you’re a GM. Uribe can handle the comments, I just don’t think Sabean needed to make them.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I have no problem with it this time
If Uribe went to the Dodgers for either the same money or $1M more over 3 years (depending on the source). Fuck him and the goat he rode in on.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
with or without the WS ring, fuck the PC rhetoric. I don't agree with Sabes on everything, but Uribe deserves the light to be cast on him like a cockroach in the corner. Now, Uribe, go make your money and don't forget to send the Giants pitching staff a %
of your new contract for getting you the exposure you wouldn’t have had otherwise. Most utility men hitting .248 aren’t making $21mm over three years. Prediction: in 2011, your average is going down because you will now be forced to hit against the Giants staff and hitting in Dodger stadium for 81 games.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
SABEZ MAD!!! EFF U URIBE!!! TAKE THAT!!! WE GOT MIGGY!!!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I'm So Tired
Too old. Too slow. I know it is only a year, but I am so tired of, “No, really, we’ll go young after this contract.”
"A new day will dawn for those who stand long." - Led Zeppelin
Just realized that Miggy will be tied for sixth highest salary next season.
Zito – $18.5m
Lincecum – $14m
Rowand – $13.6m
Huff – $10m
Cain – $7.3m
Wilson – $6.5m
Tejada – $6.5m
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Hmm. Ross and Sanchez might bump him.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Completely related news
I redecorated my office a bit. What do you think?

I can't fight this feeling anymore!
by ResDog on Dec 1, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Full extension, already covered in dirt, high stirrups… it’s a pretty cool pic.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Is that the 500 HR pic?
Brian Sabean would return more calls if he wasn't so busy being the greatest baseball mind in the history of the game.
How bad is it that due to the size of the pic, I thought it was Moises Alou…?
/sheepish look
by The Double Deuce on Dec 1, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
On a side note...
there’s only one fat guy on the roster now
zaftig
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2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 1, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
MCC
Plug on KNBR
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 7:44 AM PST reply actions
Dibley brought up Grant’s poll (above). Mac hadn’t heard of MCC. The name “McCovey Chronicles” was said 2-4 times. Mac said it was a nice handle.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
It’s on the interwebs, which are a series of tubes.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:06 AM PST up reply actions
Fee Waybill never looked better!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
Paulie had to know…just playing dumb.
I don’t think he’s playing.
by The Double Deuce on Dec 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
cough-cough-pass
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
it was Ray!
which makes sense, because he knows more about baseball than most of the hosts.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Your probably right,
I have trouble telling them apart
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
You know you've made it when they are talking about your pole in the media.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Only 17% Yuck...
did Grant write that he liked this signing?
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I voted yuck.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
LOL YANKEES
ESPN HEADLINE: Brian Cashman to rappel as elf
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5866872
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
The Marlins are expected to non-tender Ronny Paulino. Sign him to a $1M contact and have him back-up Posey? His defense seems comparable to Whiteside and he’s a much better hitter.
Ask me about my blog.
He refused to be the Rays emergency catcher in the playoffs
In case Jaso/Shoppach got injured
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Why? He’s hit like molten garbage for two years straight, and it wasn’t like he was awesome before that.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Agree
However, I would like to see how Kruk and Kuip deal with his name on a consistent basis.
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Only in 2009 was Paulino with a .330ish wOBA a much better hitter. In 2008 and 2010 his wOBA was under .300, while Whiteside’s last year actually cracked that level by a point or two. Now Whiteside clearly is terrible, but Paulino is better, but only a little — unless you squint real hard and pretend 2009 represents his true talent level. Hence my comment.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Whiteside is awful at hitting baseballs.
Paulino is below average.
Paulino > Whiteside
Ask me about my blog.
Thank you for agreeing: Paulino is a bad hitter, Whiteside is an awful hitter, therefore the true statement is, Paulino is a slightly better hitter. Paulino > Whiteside, NOT Paulino >> Whiteside.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
We offer volume discounts on our above-replacement-level hairsplitting services!
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
It’s the difference between Yuniesky Betancourt and a league average hitter, or between Vernon Wells and Evan Longoria.
Duuude. Whiteside has two seasons in the majors, neither of which even amounted to 200 PA’s. Graphing his numbers is silly. Same with Paulino – he hasn’t played a full season in three years.
Paulino has a career wOBA that’s higher by 30 points. Bill James projections, if you prefer, actually put the difference at 40 points going forward. It’s not close.
Paulino’s career wOBA primarily reflects 2006-7, his age-25 and 26 seasons. Bill James projects his age-30 2010 to be a .320 wOBA - equal to those two years? More power to him, I guess. I don’t.
Whiteside is abysmal with the bat, mind you. I just don’t think Ronny Paulino is the answer.
by wcw on Dec 1, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
LOL dotted line
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Whiteside is awful at hitting baseballs
IAWTC
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/whiteel03.shtml
LOL Sponsor!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Don't we have a backup catcher on the roster already...?
Remember? Fat dude, no plate discipline…..
Rhymes with BANDA?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Big Barda?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
We’re really bringing the comics references lately!
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I had enough money left over to sponsor Rohlinger too.
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I like this idea
If he’d take $1M.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Hey! Another of my favorite Giants of the past!
I agree with the need for a backup C.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
But Whiteside hit that one homer off Halladay!
by Rook Takes Pawn on Dec 1, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Which reminds me
SIGN BRIAN JOHNSON! I’m sure he’s free.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
I think he’s out on tour. They have a new album out or something.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Well played sir.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
and caught a no-hitter!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
third jazz pianist at best!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I believe he's suspended for the first 50 games of the season
He got busted for PED’s
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Yes.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
LOL GIANTS R OLD
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 1, 2010 8:36 AM PST reply actions
Ahem...
Pot, kettle etc.
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
Really?
Had me fooled, maybe it’s just the Aubrey Huff avatar.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Also, when are you going to start writing for my site. QUIT YOUR DAMN THESIS ALREADY
Ask me about my blog.
I'm turning it in THIS VERY AFTERNOON
I have a lot of happy.
I’ll petition you to join your spamblog as soon as I’m done dealing with graduate studies trolls.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
by oldjacket on Dec 1, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I missed you.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
On one hand, I don't like Tejada, on the other:

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Exactly
Who are we to question Sabes?
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Better Tejada (tostada?) at 1/6 rather than Uribe at 3/21. Still, there is nothing preventing Brian from continuing to look for a middle infielder. He may start collecting SS in the same way he gathered outfielders last season.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 1, 2010 8:44 AM PST reply actions
It wouldn’t be a horrible idea. We now have a starting shortstop, but it’s not like we have a decent backup.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Somewhere
Manny Burris is crushed.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
I hate Orlando Cabrera, but I’d rather have him as a $2m utility guy than have Burriss on the roster.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Burriss is probably a sub-replacement level player. He’s really not good at anything besides running fast.
Ask me about my blog.
Yeah, he’s really bad and should never be brought up as a roster answer
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
He's like Velez, but without the offense
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
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I’m not even personally convinced that he’s terribly good at running fast.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
So would I
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Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
Omg Pablo watch where you’re sitting!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
This
Made me laugh.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't hate this
If Pablo bounces back, great, Tejada/Bartlett serve as your utility guy and if not at least Tejada and Pablo can’t join forces to shatter the GIDP record.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
If you bench Pablo
how does he bounce back?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
If you bench him hard enough he’s bound to bounce back at least a few inches.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 1, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
If you make him thin, how does he bounce at all?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
/philosoraptor
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
With Tejada signed, he’s less likely to get raped in a deal.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
That was a danger?
Wow, baseball’s a real cutthroat business.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
That’s actually why I got out of baseball.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
what the fuck happened in here?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
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by delorean on Dec 1, 2010 8:46 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I don’t mind Tejada as roster depth, but I don’t trust him to make it through a 162 game season. Who’s the backup exactly?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:49 AM PST reply actions
Well played, sir
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Does this mean we should expect an upcoming banning?
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, trusting Tejada to make it through a 162 game season is about all you can trust him to do.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
The guy is a month older than me! I would like a backup, please. Imagine Renteria without Uribe on the roster. How well would that have worked out?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why you need a backup. There are plenty of replacement-level posters ready to step in if you get hurt or stop producing.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I definitely agree that we need another player that can play SS. I just think it was kind of interesting that durability was the negative thing you mentioned when referencing Tejada.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Ugh. I’ll say it again – Fontenot is not a SS
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
But as a stopgap backup, I can handle it
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 1, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
/points to who he’d be replacing
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
by ResDog on Dec 1, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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DNW
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
If we only have 1-2 mil to spend on that spot who would you want? Sanchez’s injury history means whoever it is would have to be able to play 2B too and Fontenot’s lefty bat would be fairly useful off the bench. His defense at SS would put them in some trouble if Tejada got hurt for an extended period of time, but I don’t see a ton of better options.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
You can question the quality of Tejada's contribution, but he has been relatively durable averaging 158 games over the past several years.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Hey guys, I just got the Troll 2 documentary in the mail from Netflix. I’m pretty excited about this.
OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4
Ask me about my blog.
shit
i didn’t realize that was out yet! wicked.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
UGH
that’s what i thought. fucking awful. maybe worth NetFlixing, I guess, as an overview/introduction to BM, but i was very, very disappointed.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Oh, man
SFGiants
#SFGiants Poll Question: What is your favorite @SFGiants Blog on the web?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Where do I vote
I’d like to cast my vote for 22gigantes
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
/Bans self
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
bleacherreport.com
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Whatever... pretty sure the giants won the world series
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Although i'm not too pleased about this...
were the only other people out accessible through trades? Or from within?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
We did narrow down the options
To free agents, trade targets, and people in the organization already, yes.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Thanks… gotta look back to that, or was that in another post?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING HERE HALF THE TIME
actually i just saw that at the top of the post what some of the options were
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I’m sure the 40 I mention are only half of them. Just search on “rosterbation” if you want to see them all.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
nevermind, i'm actually really stupid today
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
good to know someone out there still does
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
i should probably change my handle... Where is Brock Bond?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
My rest of the season plan
1) Tender contracts to Ross, Fontenot, Javier, Casilla, RamRam (or maybe not this one).
2) Sign Burrell for 1/5 or similar.
3) Sit on hands, Sabes.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yea I’m ok with this. I certainly wouldn’t mind an alternative at backup catcher and a long reliever/spot starter as well.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
rec’d
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
ORLYA?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
What I love about Aurilia, is that UZR actually liked his defense OK. He was probably an underrated player for his whole career.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Uribe 2011?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
yeah but you can't trust defensive stats
like UZR they are too variable.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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Culberson?
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I thought they got rid of Rent and UUUU on the website
But no, it lives on.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Really?
I haven’t seen anything but Huff and Wilson since the Uribe deal.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yeah, me too. But then I got that background (points up).
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Oh technology
Here’s mine. Please tell me you see Rent, Jazzy and Timmy now.

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
No problem with Rent being up there
But that traitor fat-ass needs to be taken down before he eats the page. Fat Fuck.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Joanae loves Chache
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Don't lie
You still tie a bandanna around your thigh don’t you? /shows age.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
/looks for ‘Chache’ on NetFlix
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Directed by Michael Chaneke
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
by delorean on Dec 1, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Large pictures are large but website backgrounds are milkdonkulous.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Dec 1, 2010 10:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Apparently
Jose Lopez is going to be non-tendered by the Mariners, I think he would be a good pickup as a utility-man (If he was interested) for the Giants.
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I don’t really see him as better than Fontenot.
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this
Fontenot’s defense at shortstop probably wouldn’t be as good… but Lopez hasn’t played there at all since ‘04. Fontenot would likely post a much better OBP, play better defense at 2B, and provide a lefty bat that fits well with Freddy. I’m guessing Fontenot would also be a little cheaper.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Seriously?
Lopez was a 2+ WAR player in both 2008 and 2009. He can play all four infield positions, whereas Fontenot can only really play two and he has some power coming off the bench, whereas Fontentot has Freddy Sanchez type power.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Fontenot makes up for the lack of power with plate discipline though
Bill James projects Lopez as .265/.301/.406 and Fontenot as .278/.344/.404, which is pretty significant. It comes down to whether Lopez can make up for that with his fielding.
by kingofthacove on Dec 1, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
You can't just say things that aren't true, damnit
Freddy career ISO: .114
Fonty career ISO: .141
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You don't want Lopez aka Loafie
As a mariner diehard I’ve watched him the most meh and frustrating player. He can only play 3rd or 2nd badly. And he’s average at it. No range for short or second. Maybe could learn 1st. Dead pull hitter in terms of power. (not ideal for AT&T), doesn’t walk EVER. One of the most infuriating and blah players in Mariner history and that is saying something.
We could sign Lopez and then flip him for John Danks.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 1, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Finally proof
You do work for Sabean.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
LOL obscure burn
I thought it was ridiculous at the time too.
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
Agreed
I tweeted about this!
But yeah he’s RH so he could play 3B if Sandoval still shows marked platoon splits, is good insurance in case Sanchez gets injured, and I believe is a pull hitter so AT&T shouldn’t hurt his power
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What would the price tag look like?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I can't see him getting more than 3M
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NONONONONONONONONONO
One, he can’t play SS (and I’ve never seen him at 1B). Two, he had OBP of .270 last year. He was part of the Mariners’ offense, aka Ichiro and the 8 AAAA Chumps. Three, I’m not looking up his UZR, but I don’t feel he was a good defender at 2B.
by Murray, Present on Dec 1, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Potential free agent SS in 2012
Jason Bartlett (32)
Yuniesky Betancourt (30) – $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Ronny Cedeno (29)
Rafael Furcal (34) – $12MM club/vesting option
Alex Gonzalez (34)
J.J. Hardy (29)
Omar Infante (30)
John McDonald (37)
Augie Ojeda (37)
Jose Reyes (29)
Jimmy Rollins (33)
Ramon Santiago (32)
Marco Scutaro (36) – $6MM club option/$3MM player option with a $1.5MM buyout
Miguel Tejada (38)
Jack Wilson (34)
Yowzer
So you’re saying Jack Wilson will be available, no wonder they only signed Tejada to a one year deal. BFF’s reunited!
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
None here
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Rollins is a good bounce-back candidate, actually. Very low BABIP last two years, everything else is the same.
Don't disagree
But he’ll be a 33 year old SS, not exactly a good bet for continued success and should have bounced back by then inflating his price-tag.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
He's always played very good defense
And still moves quite well.
If he makes it through the 2011 season relatively productive and healthy, I’d have to think he’d be a top target.
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And still moves quite well.
Except when he doesn’t or his hammy explodes. Hammy injuries are like groins, they take a long time to heal and then you’re always going to be more susceptible to them.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Reply fail
Should’ve been quotes.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
“If he makes it through the 2011 season relatively productive and healthy, I’d have to think he’d be a top target.”
Obviously I don’t want him with an exploded hamstring.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Still
Even if he doesn’t get hurt this year, he was hurt in 2009 and 2010, remember, that Mark DeRosa once had an injury-free season, but that didn’t make it a pattern.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
And right in the age-range for “temporary SS solutions”! BRILLIANT!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Overpaying for shortstops of a certain age is textbook Sabean. In fact, that’s the sub-title of the fifth chapter of his upcoming book.
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
Shortstops of a Certain Age: Starring Omar Vizquel, Derek Jeter, and Ray Romano.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Have you ever watched that show? It looks devastatingly bad. And I like Scott Bakula.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I have not watched that show, but I think it’s kind of funny that it exists.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
And, apparently, multiple episodes (seasons?) have been made.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Hardy, J-Roll, or Reyes
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Tony Gwynn Jr. to be non-tendered
I would swap him out for Nate if possible, his defense might actually be better than Torres.
Also, Scott Hairston is expected to be non-tendered, here’s hoping he winds up in the American League.
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Very true
But how many PA’s is Nate actually going to get this year? Hello late-inning defensive replacement and pinch-runner, both things Gwynn is much better at.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Ryan Sadowski is returning to the Giants!
The Lotte Giants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae9zBd7k7N8&feature=recentu
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I heard that he turned down a similar contract from the Pyongyang Nuclear Fallouts.
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True fact I just learned
While league minimum in Korea is about 20k US, most foreign players make around 200k.
Not bad for the big :(owski.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I find this very, very funny. I’m a sucker for puns.
by non sequitur on Dec 1, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
You and Goofus would get along very well then.
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Goofus… along… “a long”… as in his penis… I see what you did there.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Signing Tejada isn't a great move, but I voted "Sure!"
Because of all the moves available, it was the best one:
- Can’t hurt us long-term, while I believe signing Uribe would have
- Allows Crawford to try to figure out his hitting in the minors
- Leaves the door open to other moves (I read somewhere that Hardy might be non-tendered)
- Does not leave Sabean leave desperate and “over the barrell” when talking to other teams or Renteria
- There’s still Rule 5 and guys like Friday, right?
I predict that Tejada will have a similar year to Uribe offensively in 2011. He’ll be a a little worse defensively, but not so much worse that we’ll wish we had signed Uribe. Our pitching does not rely on stellar play at SS.
This is the post I’ll try to remember to refer back to when Tejada turns out to be ok. (Maybe I should hide a post saying what a terrible idea it was on some stupid fanpost from 3 weeks ago just in case.)
The thong is, it happened.
Totally agree
Out of all the options I think this was the best one, if they were unable to deal for Bartlett, Hardy or Scutaro relatively cheap. Not to mention that Tejada is extremely durable, can play multiple positions and actually posted a very similar offensive season (minus the HR’s) to Uribe last year playing part of the year in cavernous Petco Park.
I think that Sabean comes out looking at least okay on this one once it’s all said and done, and who knows, Tejada could have one more good year left in him where he bounces back and has a good year.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Plus, we can steal the A’s fan’s “DA-DA-DADADADA-DA-DA….TE-HA-DA!” chant and make them even more pissed off.
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I do not want drums at ATT
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
by scout6 on Dec 1, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Does that Cleveland guy still show up with his drums?
by non sequitur on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
You know me well.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
reccccced
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
If that was the logic, we should have gone after Scuttaro
His drum chant was better:
Marco! (boom boom) Scuttaro!
(Sounded like Marco Polo in the swimming pool)
The thong is, it happened.
OT
Happy 40th birthday, Woody.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Weird
Off the top of my head, I would have guessed he and Bonds are the same age
The thong is, it happened.
I would have been down with that guess. Only 34 when he retired…
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Which, I think, makes his “winningest lefty” thing all the more impressive. I know wins suck and all, but he racked those up all without the benefit of an absurdly long, ageless career.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Son of a building block!
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10:55pm: The Giants are not in on Bartlett, according to Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News (on Twitter).
Not if the price was too high
It’s all relative of course. I really don’t think Bartlett is good enough to give up a key piece for.
The thong is, it happened.
16th & Albion

Bochy, Huff and Travis all look Jonathan Sanchezy to me.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I thought Renteria was Uribe. And Lincecum looks like Michael Jackson.
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Is this outside the Delirium? I’ll need to drink my way over there for a look.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Haven’t been there yet, but I yes, it’s outside of Kilowatt.
Also, full pic:

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Ooops. Sorry, forgot about adding an SL.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
banned
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Well chyeah, finally
I’m surprised it took this long!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Worse than Hitler.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Nobody’s that bad.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
a mere imp of hell compared to the Devil Who Is Called Lasorda
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 1, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Somebody needs to do some community services
And spray paint over Boo-ribe’s face.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Why is there an asterisk next to Champs?
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
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I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Bonds.
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Because while it’s called the World Series, countries like Afghanistan, Tonga, etc. are not represented at all.
FREE TIBET!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
World Baseball Classic FTW! Portugal (Kevin Correia) vs. England (Matt Cain)
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Pretty sure being in a class and being on MCC is called being a nerd, especially when you have people behind you staring at what you write
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
HEY GIRL BEHIND ME, SUCK IT
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
So..
Did she?
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Not into that sort of thing i guess
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
maybe if i brighten the screen and type in bold
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I assume she has a lollipop.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
RUN AWAY PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND PIKAGIANT
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RUN, RUN AWAY
THIS MAN BLOWS GOATS
I HAVE PROOF
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
So I slept on it.
And I still don’t like it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
TWSS
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by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
It's Miguel Tejada.
And they are paying him 6.5 million.
And he plays worse defense then Rent.
1 year only is really the only likable part of this deal.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Listen, man, we went over this. It’s just a pea. You can totally take it out from under the mattress anytime you want to.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
With good reason
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Dec 1, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
...He actually would be a decent fit on this team
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Jim Edmonds is contemplating playing another year. I could get on board with having him holding down a corner OF spot til Belt is ready.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
reasons he seems like a good fit
1) better than Burrell defensively
2) good OBP/decent power bat
3) fulfills Sabean’s desire to make the lineup a little more left handed
4) likely wouldn’t expect to be a full time player if/when Belt is called up
5) very good hitter vs righties could platoon with Ross if/when Belt comes up
6) probably not very expensive, certainly only a 1 year deal
7) old, gamer, centerfield
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
8) can still play CF (in case of multiple disasters)?
I haven’t heard anything about “getting more lefthanded” since that conference call… the day after the parade? A
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been interested in this one.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
HIGH HOPES
TEJADA IS A GAMER, ITS ONLY ONE YEAR, GIVES US DEPTH AT MULTIPLE POSITIONS AND KNOWS HOW TO SWING A STICK…
Trade Sabean...
WHERE IS THE REAL LOCKET DAMNIT
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Actually, I’m pretty sure RAB was the least mysterious cliffhanger in the whole series.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Reports say the A's are going after Dunn
That would actually be a good lineup.
Dunn at DH, Barton at 1B, Cust in RF (lol, but you’d have two very good defenders in CF and LF to compensate).
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m surprised it’s taken so long for Dunn to get to an AL team.
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He really does not want to go to the AL.
I think if he gets any NL offers he will pick them over the AL
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Im just pissed I wont see any more jazz hands pics.
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"
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I'm guessing you will...
…but they’ll be in a very different form.
…photoshop rules.
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I don’t know why I expected offseason McCovey threads to be under 500 comments, but I did. I just need to call in sick from work for a week and go through all the posts from last month that I missed.
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I know. This place has been ridikalis for months now.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
My logic
Tejada was good when I saw him that one time in Baltimore, so I will enjoy having him on the Giants.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Sidney Ponson?
he was a beast. much better than that andy huff guy
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
This
Science!
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Tejada Signing
It reminds me of a poster I saw in a dorm bathroom somewhere in Rhode Island. It was titled “Turds of the World” or something like that…..It had picture of all different types of bowel movements, “Corn shit”, “Beer shit”, etc….
All of the available SS options were turds….Each had different reasons why they stunk, but they all reeked for one reason or another….
I can’t get upset over the fact that we obtained “The Runs” instead of “The Power Dump”.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions
Hmmm
Ian Desmond is drawing strong trade interest, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The Nationals want starters and, other than Cliff Lee and Carl Pavano, the free agent pitching class has thinned out considerably. The free agent shortstop class is similarly weak, so Desmond is in demand.
Washington isn’t looking to trade Desmond, but they could part with him for a young pitcher with comparable service time, Rosenthal says. The 25-year-old batted .269/.308/.392 in 2010, his first full season. With just over one year of service time to his name, Desmond is still five years away from free agency.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
This would be great
If they hadn’t spent $6M on Tejada yesterday. That being the case sending Sanchez or, God forbid, MadBum would be ridonkulous.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
RUNZLER FOR DESMOND
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I saw this film when it was entitled “Runzler for Bartlett” and was very surprised at the ending.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ian for Frandsen and Lewis!
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
i want time machine
so we can get 1995 Aurilia back. because all the current SS options suck
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
Time-machine
I’d take 1985 Jose Uribe while you’re at, just watch him double up his douche-bag nephew 3 times in one night. If we have to have a light-hitting SS, he might as well be able to play the field like Jose.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Juan Uribe may join Russell Martin in SUCKING IT!
by Giant Torture on Dec 1, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Just wait. Someone is going to come up with a better use for that time machine trip any second now…yep, there it is.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I was going to suggest “end world hunger.” Then you get the whole self-righteous vibe going.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 1, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Think of the children.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 1, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
You want to send them back in time?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
No, I just want to give them a sandwich. “Here ya go, kid. It’s from the future.”
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Dec 1, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
How would you solve world hunger by going back in time?
/insert Sam Kinison joke here
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
How bout getting the Cleveland Vizquel
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
i guess if we expand the search
i’d take a young A-Rod. dude was a monster when he came up. but i loved Aurilia. he was flawed for sure, but solid D and 20 homers a year is pretty awesome from a SS. and he wasn’t an OBP sinkhole
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
Since we're talking about time machines...
Sign Khail Greene, throw him in the time machine back to 05?
I accidentally selected a Diet Mt. Dew from the vending machine. It doesn’t taste as good as Mt. Dew.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Oops, apparently it is spelled "Mtn Dew."
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Frodo’s journey up Diet Mt. Dew was actually pretty uneventful.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Really, he should’ve climbed Shasta.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
/Frodo turns around exasperated/
God damn it Sam, you got us fucking lost again! I said Mt DOOM you half-wit alcoholic.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
This is the real reason it took three whole books to complete the journey. They kept going up the wrong mountains. Diet Mt. Dew. Mt. Trepidation. The climb up Mt. DOOP was pretty funny, though.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I humbly suggest that this is a funnier Futurama/LOTR mash-up than Bender’s Game.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Don't forget about WATER
The original diet drink
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Why did you place it in the floor before taking a picture of it?
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Closest flat surface?
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how can you place it "IN" the floor
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Shadowcat powers
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Don’t ask me. IRONxMIKE is the one who did it.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
YEA RIGHT!!!!! A shirt doesnt just appear there by itself
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Best athlete of the year, nerds
…in Colombia

They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
by esseffgeez on Dec 1, 2010 4:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sweet coffee cups!
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i lol'd 8)
"Why is no one hugging me right now?!"
-Sergio Romo
by DoubleDeuce22 on Dec 1, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Baseball.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Gar!
Amazing how a guy can go from TOTAL WASTE FUCK HIM SERIOUSLY to The Best Guy Ever © in, like, one month.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
More or less amazing
Than hitting a World Series-Winning three-run homer off of Cliff Lee?
by Big Americans on Dec 1, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
LOL!
aw, I miss him already. I miss ’em all :(
/throws fist full of glitter in the air!
♥ 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Hey!
Isn’t that my line??
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, all the lines looked the same. I didnt realize yours was the big one.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
line – line – STASH
learn the difference.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Is the guy on the far right a jockey? Sorry for the Colombian sportsknowledgefail.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I know even less than you. Seems like the guy is perhaps a bit big to be a jockey, even if he appears small next to Edgar.
Know your Colombian athletes
San Francisco Giants’ baseball player Edgar Renteria (2nd R), skater Jercy Puello (L) and cyclist Nairo Quintana® pose with their trophies and Colombia’s President Juan Manuel Santos (2nd L), during the El Espectador newspaper’s award ceremony in Bogota December 1, 2010. Renteria was elected the Best Athlete of the Year 2010 in Colombia, with Puello in second place and Quintana in third place.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Wow, skating and cycling… can you be a short cyclist? It’s not like Edgar is 8 feet tall or anything.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
SUCK IT ORLANDO CABRERA
Oh, and you too, Ernesto Frieri.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yes and Yes.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I was wondering this as well.
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Know your world leaders
San Francisco Giants’ baseball player Edgar Renteria (2nd R), skater Jercy Puello (L) and cyclist Nairo Quintana® pose with their trophies and Colombia’s President Juan Manuel Santos (2nd L), during the El Espectador newspaper’s award ceremony in Bogota December 1, 2010. Renteria was elected the Best Athlete of the Year 2010 in Colombia, with Puello in second place and Quintana in third place.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Although he does look like Captain Kirk.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
OK that one I knew.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
ABSOLUTELY rec’d!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Or at least that one dude’s head does.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
SUCK IT DREW BREEZE
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Marisa Miller is proud of her Giants, haters hate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ2pQ_Vhh58
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
MARISA MILLER!
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 1, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Which 32 teams would have made playoffs with extra wild card?
But you know who really got shorted? Your reigning World Series champion San Francisco Giants, that’s who. The Gi’nts would have made the playoffs four more times (including 2009) if the National League had offered a second wild card spot.
Four times! So the commissioner simply is scheming to get the Giants into the playoffs more often — I knew it!
Playoffs in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010. We could have been the NL team of the decade!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
[my_god.gif]
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
HOW DARK THE CON OF NEUK
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
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Finally understands . . .
the symbolic beauty of The Goofus Dance.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Dec 1, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
If 32 teams made it in, EVERYONE could be the team of the decade, and the GIANTS would have been in the playoffs EVERY YEAR!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Which 32 teams would have made playoffs with extra wild card?
There’s only 30 teams in baseball. Your argument is invalid. Your headline is stupid.
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From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
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I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
I’m in the middle of month ending paperwork… so I haven’t read the entire thread, has Haft’s latest been discussed?
Contract Tenders
This contingent includes outfielders Andres Torres and Cody Ross, left-handers Javier Lopez and Jonathan Sanchez, right-handers Santiago Casilla, Ramon Ramirez and Chris Ray and infielder Mike Fontenot…
Don’t think so.
As long as Torres, Ross, Lopez, and Sanchez are kept I’m good. I’m guessing that Ray will be non-tendered. Not sure on Ramirez or Casilla. Of the two I’d rather keep Casilla.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I’d rather keep Casilla as well. He has better peripherals, and he’s the older brother of my adopted son.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This.
And I forgot to mention Fontenot…don’t mind keeping him unless there’s a cheaper utility option available else where. But I could see him and Ray being the odd two out. Or Ray and Ramirez.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Torres and Dirty are must-haves. Lopez and Cody are should-haves. Casilla’s sort of on the borderline between OMGWANT and “eh sure,” but he should be cheap. Fontenot would be a decent pickup, very useful unless the Giants figure to score in the rule 5 draft, while Ray & Ramirez are expendable.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 1, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
on a semi-related note
If Andres ages out of his potential without scoring a big contract somewhere, I would love to see the well-compensated members of the 2010 team/staff pitch in and buy him and Soannie a really fucking nice house. I dunno how much you make as an ADHD spokesman but it’s nowhere enough for what he did for that team.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 1, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if he’d have value to someone as a hitting coach. Dude is clearly the product of serious discipline and work.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
We’re watching the Philly clincher. Everytime they mention Uribe somebody says “traitor!” and lo a new family tradition was born.
TRAITOR!!!
It’s bad out! Took my wife an 1.5 hours to get from Lake Forest to Anaheim..!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Would it be smart to try to buy out Jonathan Sanchez’s last couple arb years? Thoughts?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 7:32 PM PST reply actions
If you going for a 2 year contract….I would shoot for 3 with a club option for the 4th..maybe 6-8 million a year…
I wouldn't.
He’s too flaky to warrant it. And doing so right after this year, when his ERA was under his FIP by like a full point, would be very very dumb. Extend low, not high.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I don’t know…he’s obviously got some control issues but young left handers are definitely rare…you can sign him now and if he’s not as good as advertised—> Trade for a bat
If he's not as good, we wouldn't be able to get a good bat for him
If you wanted to trade Jonathan, the time to do it is right now.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He pitched above his head this year.
BABIP .40 points below career. His strand rate was ridiculously low too. Some of that might have been skill. A lot of it was luck.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I still think you sign him to a 3 year/20 million deal with a club option 4th year…this way you can have him for a bit and still trade him in year 3 with value…
Buy why?
He won’t make that much money in arb. That’s a lot of money for a pitcher. He might get hurt.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I don’t think that’s high at all…Kuroda had a 2.4 WAR and just got $12 million per year…
Jon “Breakdown ready to happen” Garland got $5 million with a club option 2nd year at $8 million..
You need to give him some money in return for the club option
It might not be high to the free agent market, but arbitration doesn’t play to the free agent market. Do you know what kind of contract Tim Lincecum would have gotten on the open market?
But because we were able to lock him up to an arb-comparable deal – because he’s in the process of arbitration – as opposed to an open market deal – because he’s not on the open market – he came a lot cheaper.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
I understand…my point is you can pay a little bit to buy up his first two years of FA…with the fourth under club control…this way Giants can get a bargain in year 3 if he is good and use him as trade bait if he’s just average
I think the issue is that Jonathan Sanchez is kind of a high-risk player to invest that many years in right now. He’s had problems in the past with arm fatigue, for one. He’s had problems in the past with volatility, for another. And you’re talking about locking those two qualities up into he man’s 30s, for another.
The best bet is that he’s in his peak right now. I don’t know why you would lock up a high-risk guy who you’re already controlling through his peak years past his expected peak.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just fooling around here, anyway. I don’t know anything about rosterbation. I generally just let the people around here tell me if a contract is good or bad, listen to what everybody has to say, and then agree with jponry.
Stupid paper I need to write, making me speculate about stuff.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
For a n00b rosterbater…you’re doing excellent!
I don’t think a 27 year old pitcher has hit his peak yet…a 4 year deal will take him to 31 year…the team will have a good gauge of him by then
Well, he’s 28 years old right now.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
I guess it was technically his age 27 season, though. Weird baseball technicalities.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Are you crazy? That’s Uribe money!
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by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Hey everybody!
I have a great idea! Let’s sign a hard-throwing lefty who strikes out a ton of people but also walks a bunch of people to a big contract!

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Okay…but a the going rate of a 1.5-2.0 WAR pitcher is like $8 million…no matter who you sign…6.5 million is a bargain even if Sanchez regresses to 2009 form (1.8 WAR)
But he'll probably make something around 20 million in arb anyway!
And even if it’s more, you get the added benefit of not having to pay him if he gets hurt!
There’s no reason to buy him out unless you can get him to go for like, 3 years, 10 million. Which he won’t.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I don’t get it…if you think he will get $20 million in his two arb years…why would you not want him for 3 at the same price
It's not worth the risk.
He won’t make so much money in arb that we have to worry about tamping down his per-year costs. What’s the incentive?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
To get him on the cheap in his first two years of FA…at worse you pay a little more now and it evens out in years 3 and 4…at best you get him at a premium bargain in those years
He has two more years of arb
If you did your suggested 3/20, you’d only be buying out 1 year of FA.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Oh jeez, I didn't see that
Now I’m wondering why HE would agree to such a thing? He can probably get a 3 year/30 million deal in free agency.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That is slander.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 3, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
trade Sanchez to a club like the D'backs for Stephen Drew. I don't like Sanchez's chemical makeup.
Clearly the dude can throw a no-hitter on any give night. But he runs around in his own head unsupervised too often. He melts when guys get on base. Give me a SS that has some upside, who doesn’t need to carry a team and I will be happy.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Dec 1, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
While I agree with many of your points up the conversation
….I’m not comfortable trading an electric arm like Sanchez in the league MUCH LESS the division.
There’s gotta be a drool-worthy trade with the AL that doesn’t result in Sanchez facing the Jints 18 times a year.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Dont know if its been mentioned
but the Nationals have been getting some interest about Desmond and are willing to part with him. Doesnt matter much now, but thoughts?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
I know he plays 2nd base as well, not sure which one is his main position.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 1, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Oh never mind. 166 games at SS to 5 at 2nd
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 1, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
YES YES YES YES YES
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
I’m hearing the Giants have re-signed OF Pat Burrell to a discounted, one-year contract, pending a physical. Working to confirm.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 1, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
well, okay, should see the $, but my initial reaction is definitely HUZZAH
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 1, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Arbitrary Bill James Projections up and down the lineup
Torres: 271/340/440, 14 HR, 25 SB
Sanchez: 285/330/401, 32 2B
Posey: 308/370/506, 21 HR
Huff: 269/348/453, 19 HR, 3 SB (SNEAK ATTACK)
Burrell: 237/351/443, 20 HR (over 465 projected PAs)
Ross: 265/323/466
Tejada: 279/324/415
Sandoval: 308/363/492, 38 2B, 18 HR
I think the Huff projections are pessimistic, Sanchez assumes he stays healthy, and the Pablo projections are anyone’s guess at all. But overall, it uh…well, it looks like last year. Surprise.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 1, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
YAY!!!
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, I’ll hang on to the quote, and just forget who said it.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Que?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 1, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 1, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
/cue “The Boys are Back in Town” theme music
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
:D
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yay!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Green this!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
YES YES YES
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Confirmed. Good work Baggs. RT @extrabaggs: I’m hearing the Giants have re-signed OF Pat Burrell to a one-year contract, pending a physical
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 1, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HAPPPY!!!!!!!!!!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I guess we really shouldn't have doubted it . . .
Unlike Jazz Hands, Pat grew up a Giants fan. He understands loyalty.
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yayayayayay
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 1, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
The Bat
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs post up
Still working on a confirmation and contract terms, but Burrell won’t make anything close to the $9 million annual salary he was pulling down with the Tampa Bay Rays. He might not be a starting player with the Giants, either, but Bruce Bochy loved the way Burrell’s special brand of arrogance rubbed off on the rest of the team.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Pat Burrell:
Back for another year to rub off on the rest of the team and the women of the great San Francisco Bay Area.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 1, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Now at 50% off!! Just in time for the holidays!!!
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Bruce Bochy loved the way Burrell’s special brand of arrogance rubbed off on the rest of the team
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. God damn, but I love that arrogant, magnificent, S&M loving bastard.
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised at all
If Sabean was extremely ‘Meh’ on re-signing Burrell, but Bochy barged into his office and said something along the lines of “you owe me one for trading Bengie”
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOL
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
IRL LOL
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 1, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
recd
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Dec 1, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Is that what they’re calling it nowadays?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Bochy actually just wants to see how far Huff and Burrell can go given a full season together.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
third base at least!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
1/2M...?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Dec 1, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
What part of “Burrell” and “rubbing” bothers you, exactly?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Dec 1, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
I wish I could go back to my 2008 self and say:
Don’t you worry. One day soon, you will have a legitimate middle of the order. It will look like this:

Things will get weird.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
This might be my favorite single picture of the entire season.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 1, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
You will then ask yourself where the third middle of the order bat is, and why the batboy is following those two around.
You will then facepalm yourself, after which you will look at you with a look of dejected confusion, and then you’ll probably fool around with yourself, because, really, it’s just masturbation if you think about it.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Now I can’t stop thinking about it.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 3, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
<3

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 1, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
sl

I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
zOMG SO CUTE

My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Dec 1, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
OMG, I’m crying again
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
That's weird
You look at it a certain way and it kind of looks like they are wearing each other’s unis.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
rec'd
Also, love Aubrey’s expression.
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by Prussian Creole on Dec 1, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Where’s the kiss on the cheek?
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
You mean this?

I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 1, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Winter Meetings Agenda, Item 1: Propose changing the rules to allow six outfielders to play the field at once.
Cool.
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Not shown: Amy G trying to get an interview.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Dec 1, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
‘interview’
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 3, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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LA Times
Aritcle came out saying thatthe Giants matched the Dodgers offer of 3 yrs/$21 million… do we believe this
Meh
The guy helped win us a World Series. We give him the benefit of the doubt that there was a semi-decent reason for whatever he did.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
If the Giants didn't win the World Series
Everyone would probably HATE the signing of Tejada.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
If the Giants had LOST the World Series....
I’d hate everything.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Dec 2, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
But would the Giants sign Tejada if they didn’t win the WS?
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Actually I believe
that Tejada will NOT be as sound as Uribe defensively but will have overall better offensive stats that Juan when 2011 is over.
Don't believe everything you think.

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