The biggest trap of the offseason: Derek Jeter
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 29, 2010 3:55 PM PST
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PrintThe title is misleading. Derek Jeter isn’t really a trap. He isn’t some well-concealed ponzi scheme that takes the FTC months to unravel. He’s more like a Nigerian 419 scam with weird grammar and dozens of misspellings. You know it’s a bad idea to give money to something like that. Everyone else knows it too. The 419s are still active because one out of 10,000 thinks, hey, what if this guy really is a prince? But only a really, really small percentage of functional adults fall for the thing.
Now that Juan Uribe has sold his soul, you know there are weirdos out there who want Derek Jeter to replace him. The Yankees have already offered Jeter 3/$45M. He was insulted. So it’s safe to assume that to steal him away from the Yankees, another team would need to at least match the 3/$45M offer.
REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPFIRST, I MUST SOLICIT YOUR STRICTEST CONFIDENCE IN THIS DEALINGS . THIS IS BY VIRTURE OF ITS NATURE AS BEING UTTERLY CONFIDENTIAL AND "TOP SECRET". I AM A 36-YEAR-OLD SHORTSTOP IN THE PRIME OF HIS CAREER, AND I SOLICIT YOU TO WATCH MY IMPENDING MILESTONES AND TEAM LEADING CAPABILITIES.
This would be a spot where I’d usually slip in a Sabean-luvz-veterans! quip, but even Sabean just sent Jeter’s e-mail to his recycle bin. Right now, Jeter is expecting to get paid based on his past accomplishments, his legacy, and his brand. That might be worth something to the Yankees. It’s not worth much to the Giants, who would be concerned with his value as a shortstop for the three-plus years he’d be getting paychecks.
When a great hitter over the age of 35 has a season that’s markedly worse than the ones before it, and the decline is unrelated to a serious injury, the player never rebounds with three more superstar seasons before riding into the sunset. Never? Well, that’s an educated guess, but I’m sick of looking. Cal Ripken, Robin Yount, Pete Rose, Alan Trammell, George Brett, Paul Molitor, Rod Carew…try anyone you can think of. If the production fell off a cliff in the mid-to-late 30s, they might have rebounded with one good season, but they never rode into the sunset with two or three years at the previously established superstar level.
You know this. Even someone who generally gives veterans the benefit of the doubt like Sabean knows this. From the Wall Street Journal:
The Giants have been in contact with Mr. Jeter's agent, Casey Close, who also represents their catcher, Buster Posey. But they are not seriously pursuing him at the moment, according to a person familiar with the team's thinking.
Here’s how that contact went:
Giants: So, please, Casey, tell Buster that we’d love to buy out his arbitration years if we can find common ground. Also, what’s up with Jeter? I mean, we do have an opening at short.Close: Oh, we’re tying to get a six-year deal, but we’ll be willing to settle for a four-year…
Dial-tone: Bzzzrrrrrr-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh. No.
I could almost – almost – see a situation where the Giants ignore the defensive metrics and the single-season decline to give Jeter a super-sized Renteria-type deal of two years and many millions. But if he were willing to take that, the Yankees would be able to match or best the offer. And there you go. There’s no way Derek Jeter is going to leave the Yankees.
If a team would send Jeter his salary in certified funds, though, Jeter would be glad to send his talent in return by transfer latest seven (7) business days from the date of receipt of check and the receipt of various key documents by TEL/FAX. Just be patient.
Also, Derek Jeter is not a player the Giants should target.
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7/$150
Lock him up. Backloaded of course.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
For reference:
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
NO
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My eyes just exploded.
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Don’t worry, you’ll be fine. We just need to give those eyes a chance to calm down.
Luckily, Jeter can help you with that.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
This all seems vaguely familiar...
except this makes even less sense.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
by GiantBrass on Nov 29, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Wow it's been a while on that one
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
There We Go.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
only makes less sense to the n00bs
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
That would’ve made about 100x more sense than this. A-Rod was what? 32? Jeter is going to be 37. No thanks.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Also A-Rod would probably have been a better shortstop.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
If this were a religious forum in the fifteenth century, you would be burned at the stake for heresy.
Just sayin’
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
but but but i had the faggots ready and the flint
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Don’t make you ban you for using words that seem offensive but aren’t. I’m niggardly with my bans, but I can make an exception.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 29, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
I detect a chink in your armor.
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… yep, ten minutes of furious thinking, and a bathroom break, and all I can add is “cheese nips”.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
That's a type of cracker, right?
how about “shanghaijim?”
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture.
that's because
he eats crackers while he cleans them.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Ohh man I wanted him so bad back then.
This team is a tease. 2010 Giants baseball playing Just the Tip with the best of them.
KILL IT WITH FIRE
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
And a stake through the heart, and acid, and Lysol.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
by shaggingflyballs on Nov 29, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
VOMIT
Who’re you going to photoshop into a Giants uniform next – Ron Cey? Scott Hairston? Steve Sax? Orel Hershiser!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
TOMMY LASORDA??
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Scary but true
When the Giants almost moved to St. Petersburg in 1992, one of the investors there was Mike Piazza’s father – a close personal friend of Tommy Lasorda. There were rumors that Lasorda was going to become the first manager of the St. Petersburg Giants (or Tampa Bay Giants, or whatever they would’ve ended up calling them).
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Yes.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
instant 'shop
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
WOW
MAD SKILLZ!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
It burns!!
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 29, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
I have a Giants hat
signed by Orel Hershiser.
He walked over to me in the fairway at the At&T Pro-Am golf tournament and offered to sign it the February after we acquired him from the Indians. That, and I wasn’t born yet in ‘88.
So I don’t hate him.
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Nov 30, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Projected lineup
CF: Torres
SS: Jeter
C: Posey
1B: Huff
RF: Ross
3B: Sandoval
LF: DeRosa
2B: Sanchez
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Why not just go all in?
CF: Rowand
SS: Jeter
C: Molina
1B: Huff
RF: Guillen
3B: DeRosa
LF: Burrell
2B: Sanchez
CF: Jeter
SS: Jeter
C: Jeter
1B: Jeter
RF: Jeter
3B: Jeter
LF: Jeter
2B: Jeter
DH: Jeter (BECAUSE THEY WOULD AHVE TO CHANGE THE RULES OF THE NL BEFORE HE CAME OVER, DUH.)
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
John Malkovich approves of this lineup
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Two months ago I would have gone into apoplectic seizures at this post.
However, now that the SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS HAVE WON THE WORLD SERIES I can smile blissfully, knowing that if this lineup were to take the field on opening day, I would stand and applaud, knowing that all is right with the world.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Lots of knowing in my knowingly knowing post, doncha know?
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
needs moar barrister or esquire references
by Headhunter Rollins on Nov 29, 2010 3:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
So this is what Uribe leaving has done to us...
Stripped us of our sanity…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I thought this was so sad
Until I saw the picture of the friggin’ Bothan. Good riddance.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
How dare you.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Also
Per Morosi and Rosenthal:
The Rays are closer to trading shortstop Jason Bartlett than ever before.
The Dodgers’ three-year, $21 million agreement with free-agent infielder Juan Uribe on Monday sparked accelerated discussions involving Bartlett, major-league sources say.
The Cardinals, Giants, Padres, Orioles and Pirates all have expressed recent interest in Bartlett. The Giants’ need is particularly acute after losing Uribe.
The Rays, facing the losses of several free-agent relievers, are believed to be seeking bullpen help in any deal for Bartlett, whom they would replace with Reid Brignac.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Chris Ray for Jason Bartlett.
Done and done.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
hey!
Take a free Ramirez too! *
*arbitration awards may vary
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
:(
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Went to the Dugout store the other day
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
He's the Adrian Beltre of Giants lefties
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
You specifically went somewhere so that you could watch Noah Lowry’s balls drop?! Man, that’s just disturbing.
by biff pocoroba on Nov 29, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Bring him back home
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All this time I thought he was from Mountain View. Turns out he’s from…Stockton???
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Hmm, according to Wikipedia, he was born in MV but grew up in Lodi.
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Someone told me that he went to the same high school as Dallas Braden.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Bartlett went to St. Mary’s and Braden went to Stagg HS.
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Hey, I'm currently like 5 minutes away from Stagg HS
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I’m sorry
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
by j14 on Nov 29, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it's a pretty ghetto HS
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Must be a sad prom at that school
Everybody’s going Stagg…
[/rim shot]
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
by Scooter Ellis on Nov 29, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Also apparently this is one of his career highlights
On October 22, 2008, Bartlett stole a base in the 5th inning of Game 1 of the World Series, earning America a free taco from Taco Bell.2
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ACQUIRE THIS MAN GOD
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Very few men on this earth can say that they earned America a free taco.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Tacoby Bellsbury
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Free taco, pfffffffffffffffffffffft!
I want the Chalupa.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Cha-luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-pa!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAv05FyIri4
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Precisely!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Free taco runs.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 29, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
And that’s why we celebrate Butt Pee Day every October 22nd.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 29, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
DOES HE GET A TIE OR NOT??
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
The 209 —> not in the Bay Area
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
YEAH, NO SHIT
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I will burn something down if that occurs
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I'd join you.
But it won’t happen.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
My scenario
I could almost – almost – see a situation where the Giants ignore the defensive metrics and the single-season decline to give Jeter a super-sized Renteria-type deal of two years and many millions. But if he were willing to take that, the Yankees would be able to match or best the offer. And there you go. There’s no way Derek Jeter is going to leave the Yankees.
I’ve been saying the only scenario I can see is things completely disentegrate with Jeter and The Yankees and he takes a one year deal from us for like $10 million. It would give him a chance to re-establish his value and resign (wrote it like that just to piss off Delorean…Hi delorean!) with the Yankees in 2012.
The thong is, it happened.
So delorean also hates that?
Sweet. I’m not alone.
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
It makes me crazy because “resign” is the complete opposite of “re-sign”!
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
I boycott hyphens
so it’s all the same to me.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
what about em dashes?
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
Only if they are mad.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
TORREAWFUL OUT OF THE NL WEST!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I guess he’s temporarily halting his mission to play for every NL West team and restarting his quest to play on every team in the AL West. He’s two teams away in each.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Torrealba's a steal at that price IMO...
Luckily, my opinion is worthless.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
fun fact
Molina earned that in one year last year.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
But Yorvit always has to play against the Giants
Ergo, Giants-Rangers rematch in next year’s World Series.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
That’s the same non-story from this morning.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Nov 29, 2010 4:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Jetah
I don’t think that I’d do at 1/3 the amount that the Yanks offered.
By the way, the rumors you hear about a trivia contest in San Carlos tomorrow hosted by yours truly, are true. Be there at 7:30 and see Grant miss a baseball question, just like last week.
Are kids allowed? Or is it a bar?
Tomorrow’s my birthday and we’ll be in San Mateo for dinner
The thong is, it happened.
A reverend, rabbi, and a scientologist walked into The Carlos Club
hence, it is a bar. No youngsters allowed, I’m afraid.
by biff pocoroba on Nov 29, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Huff would take his kid
and you know it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
Things are… different… in Texas.
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
SPELL FLAVOR LIKE AN AMERICAN!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I'm so sick of those provincial Brits and their snooty spelling.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
But the Admiral is Calamari. They use the Imperial spelling.
wait.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
No Rebel Alliance spelling?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
thats why im thinking
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Bothans are dying. YOU NEED TO THINK QUICKER
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
your powers of Aurebesh are weak
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Aurebesh is such a lazy system it’s hilarious. Why would there be signs for C, Q, and X?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
You mean lazy like getting an old Central Asian lady a bottle of vodka and recording her “Ewok”?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Pants: Tight
Hair: 1995ish
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 29, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Also
Sabean must love being used as leverage (once again) in contract discussions and rumors
ZOMG SABEAN DRAFTED JETER. HE’LL TOTALLY SIGN FOR 3/$30MM!!!!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
Sabean must love being used as leverage
THAT’S WHAT SUSAN SAID
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
LOL REPLY
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Sign of the apocalypse:
I just came to the conclusion that I wouldn’t mind having Tejada in an Uribe-like role. Super-utility, filling in during injury/slump. But something tells me we wouldn’t be able to get him for $3.5 million.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions
See this is why I did not want to have Uribe walk
Then people start rationalizing things like Miguel Tejada being a good plan.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
This.
So much this. Tejada would be a DISASTER. Except he just moved a couple numbers up in the list of options…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I think he only shouldve moved one number up the list.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I’m in this boat. Tejada is still an above average hitter… I think he could be a good clubhouse guy too… If he’s cheap, I wouldn’t put it past Sabes to sign him.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Uh, No. He is not.
Tejada 2010: .269/.312/.381/.692
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
dude
I know that aint pretty – but given the current SS options I would definitely take that for the 2011 Giants. It’s probably even worth a retrospective $6M (disclaimer: I don’t know Tejada’s salary in 2010. other disclaimer: I am not saying Tejada for $6M/1 year is a good deal… there is a significant possibility of him FAILING to reach the lofty heights of a .692 OPS)
More concerned about the defense with Tejada as well.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Jeter would never take this but..
I would be all for signing him to a one year eff you yankees deal. I think he’ll be better than last year, and it would be nice to have someone who’s repeated before on the team to keep the guys focused during those random road trips to milwaukee. Plus the Giants would become espn faves which would be cool, and fox would do all they could for a giants yankees world series.
by haroldansivakumar on Nov 29, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions
I’m in this line. If he’d sign for 1 year and 10 million or less…why the heck not? That said, it won’t happen.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
no!!!!
/vader’d
I like Jeter but why give him half of the money that could have just brought Uribe back?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Because Uribe can’t be brought back anymore and we need a shortstop…
Also, I think he’ll bounce bit back next year, especially if he’s trying to re-establish his worth or whatever.
Its probably not my favorite idea. But I don’t hate it either. Granted, I can say that about the entire list of options.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
ugh
this is so bad. deal a reliever for Bartlett.
by PocketfullofPoseys on Nov 29, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions
Gold gloves, championships, charm...
What else could you ask for?
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
We would be the most charming team in the league
With Zito and Jeter
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
/Huff roots around in his pants
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Zeets & Jeets
It’d be like a bad buddy cop movie.
San Francisco Giants ***GLORY ACHIEVED 11/01/10***
Stupid comment time
An MLBTR commenters:
Ugh, compared to Bartlett, Jeter would look good in orange and black.
We need bats and more weapons. Losing 20+ HR with Uribe was a big step backwards, Bartlett feels like a serious downgrade.
It’s funny how giants even think they have a shot at getting Jeter. Why in the hell would he want to go to S.F! Maybe because they know the giants are the only team that will overpay for older or overrated players “cough” zito, rowand
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:21 PM PST reply actions
What do they wont them for?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Smart comment time
The 2010 San Francisco Giants won the World Series.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
OMG WE DONT WANT HIM
nobody wants him here
this is all just made-up rumors
omg i am so rage
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 29, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
YOU SHARE THE RAGE?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
DEAR GOD YES
As I said, this was another reason I hope we would keep Uribe. Then it would spare us from all this crap.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Seriously, people.
No. No.
No.
No.
No. No.
No.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I love that song!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
The Zombies RULE!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Huh, I was hearing the Human Beinz.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
No, no, no, no, no!
I love the Zombies so much.
Really ?
I thought Zombies were more like " uuuuuggggghhhhhh….more brains"
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Recycled joke:
What to zombie vegans eat? GRAINZZZZZZ
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
But with less cowbell
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year Twenty-First Century/Pac Bell Era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
the extra brilliant thing about that Walken SNL bit
is that now I have heightened cow bell sense in other classic rocks songs… there are a few other famous ones as well.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Mississippi Queen
If you know what I mean
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Human Beinz would be...
No-no.
No.
No.
No.
No-no-no-no.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No-no.
No-no, no, no.
No-no, no, no.
No-no.
No.
No-no.
No.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Affeldt + Random Minor Leaguer X
for Scutaro. I can see this happening.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:29 PM PST reply actions
Starting to sound quite reasonable
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
I'd love that
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
I consider this better than re-signing Uribe.
Also, going on complete gut instinct, I strongly believe that the player drafted in Uribe’s compensation slot is going to be a stud.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up being Shawon Dunston Jr
Org ties and what not.
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
No complaints from me.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
You can bet he wont cheat the game
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
He actually walked a few times at a showcase tournament
I assume he was subsequently grounded
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
I’m with you on that. I was thinking recently that I’ll actually be surprised if they don’t try to draft him. He’d be a pretty good pick at that slot, too.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
Yeah he's been regarded as a pretty good prospect
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
Not saying I wouldn’t do it, but I’d miss Affeldt.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 30, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
The more I think about it the less I think I’d like Scutaro better than Tejada+Affeldt.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Ok
I’ll play the devil’s advocate.
Over the past three years, Derek Jeter has been worth 13.3 fWAR. Yes, that includes his fluky-good 2009 season. But it also includes his fluky-bad 2010 season, with a BABIP .50 points below his career averages.
Fangraphs currently says a win is worth about 4 million dollars. Let’s adjust for inflation and bump that up to, say 4.5 million.
That would mean that Jeter’s past three years have been worth just a tiny bit below 60 million dollars.
But this isn’t just any offseason. This is a offseason where Derek Jeter compared to the second best shortstop available by trade or in the free agent market is a monster. This is an offseason where if we don’t find a shortstop outside the organization, we might be turning to Mike Fontenot.
Jeter had his worst year ever last year. And he still put up 2.5 WAR.
So let’s say that the value of a win from the shortstop position is actually higher for the Giants than before. Let’s say that the Giants are willing to pay, say, 6 million dollars per win in this case.
Now let’s say the Giants offer Jeter something they’d need to offer him to get him to play here. We’ll assume 3 years, 55 million.
In that case, we just divide 55 million by 6 – which is right around 9. So Derek Jeter would have to be worth 9 WAR over the next three years in order to provide value on that contract if we assume we’re paying a premium for SS production.
I think he could do that.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
A reasoned defense of an insane proposition
fascinating
""I’d like to be a crossword clue one day. I want to be in The New York Times’s Sunday edition. Right now, the clue ‘Giants great’ is always Mel Ott. I want my clue to be down, not across. The down ones are usually harder. And when I’m the clue, I’ll fill it in — just that one — and frame it. " - Brian Wilson.
You can adjust the math if you want
If you switch it to 4 years, 80 million, but assume the same $/per ratio, you’d come up with 13.3 WAR over the course of four years that Jeter would need to produce in order to be worth the money.
That comes out to 3.3 WAR per year that Jeter would need to average per year during the contract – a number he surpassed every year from 1997-2009. I think he could pull that off.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
OK
What’s your evidence?
I’m pointing to his long track record of good production and his very very low BABIP in 2010.
What are you basing your judgment on? Your take on the aging process?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Jeter’s BABIP has always been at the high end of the spectrum, and I’d think that’d be the first thing to go with age. That and the gargoyle range.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 29, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
It would decline with age, yes
But it wouldn’t drop 50 points in one year.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You say 50 points in one year, I say from historical heights to a normal mark. To-may-to, to-mah-to. Players fall off a cliff every year, and I don’t see why Jeter would be exempt because he had a really high BABIP over his career.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 29, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE THE CAPTAIN MAY BE A NORMAL HUMAN
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
INDEED!!!
You know this “Grant” guy would never insinuate that about Captain America!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
NEVER FORGET
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
it was 50 points off his career mark
that is almost never sustainable.
You say players fall off a cliff every year, I say they almost all rebound somewhat the next year
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Are you implying return to the mean, or dead cat bounce?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Well his already bad defense is only going to decline even more...
And that’s especially a concern considering we are still trying to hang our hat on pitching. (How much does WAR take defense into account anyway?)
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
His UZR over the past three years has actually been better than it was earlier in his career.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
There really is no “evidence” to prove either one proposition…yes Jeter has had a great career but he is 36…
Vizquel was good at 36 and an “iron man” when he signed with the Giants…I rather not revisit those years…
Not so much in 2008.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I miss the rains down in Africa.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
LOL
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
He was good for one year...
and then not so good…his oWAR for the 4 years he was a Giant: 2.8, 1.4, -0.9, and -1.3…now he played great D but offensively not good
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Over the past 3 years, BBR (which I’m using becuse it goes back to the middle ages) has Jeter averaging 3.5 WAR.
Let’s look at all of the HOF SS’s from the past 60 years (I’m counting Larkin):
Barry Larkin, age 34-36, averaged 4.4 WAR per year. Between ages 37 and 40, he averaged 0.6 WAR.
Cal Ripken, age 34-36, averaged 3 WAR per year. Between ages 37 and 40, he averaged 1.2 WAR
Ozzie Smith, age 34-36, averaged 4.6 WAR per year. Between ages 37 and 40, he averaged 2 WAR.
Robin Yount, age 34-36, averaged 2.1 WAR per year. He retired after his age 37 season.
Luis Aparicio, age 34-36, averaged 3.9 WAR per year. Between ages 37 and 39, he averaged 1.3 WAR, then retired.
Pee Wee Reese, age 34-36, averaged 5.1 WAR per year. Between ages 37 and 39, he averaged 1.1 WAR , then retired.
These guys are the best SS’s of the modern era – most of them were better in their mid 30’s than Jeter – and not a single one of them was even close to averaging 3.3 WAR between the ages of 37 of 40. Half of them didn’t even have an age 40 season, and the ones that did were all somewhere between decent and terrible.
Giving Jeter 4/80 is nothing short of insane. It would be as bad as Zito’s contract, if not worse – Zito at least looked likely to be a solid pitcher over the duration of his contract. Jeter should be a bench player in 3 years.
by Cookyman on Nov 30, 2010 4:45 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Ok, now that’s the Zombies.
Also, +1. thanks for looking those up. My one quibble would be that Yount probably shouldn’t be on the list because he was no longer a SS at that age (he’d long since moved to CF), although that doesn’t hurt your point any. What do Vizquel’s equivalent numbers look like?
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
not just yount
Ripken= 3B
Reese= split time at 3B
Again, mostly supporting the point, just not with a formula.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 6:35 AM PST up reply actions
Reese, at age 36 (1955), had played a total of 7 career games at 3B, all in 1951. The other 2,000 were all at SS. He moved after that. So he does fit the formula.
You’re right above Ripken. Though, again, the fact that even Ripken – who was 10 times the SS Jeter is – couldn’t handle SS anymore by his late 30’s does mean something.
I wasn’t aware of Yount’s move to CF. l intentionally left Banks off the list because of his move to 1B, so you’re right, Yount shouldn’t be on it either (Banks, for the record, was terrible in his late 30’s; to be fair though, he was pretty bad in early 30’s too. We say about a lot of players that they fell off a cliff, but Banks really fell off a cliff once he turned 30). The fact that many of the great SS’s couldn’t actually play SS by their 30’s does have some relevance, though.
Vizquel, surprisingly (or maybe not), did better than all of them. Averaged 2.2 WAR according to BBR, and 2.9 according to Fangraphs. He’s basically the absolute best case scenario, and even he wasn’t worth it.
Also, I knew Jeter was overrated, but looking u[ those players up really made me realize how ridicolus it is. I mean, people are talking about him like he’s the best SS of all times – he’s not even in the top-5. Not sure about Top-10. I’d definitely put Rodriguez, Ripken, and Larkin above him, and probably Reese and Yount too. I’m not completely sure, but I think Banks’ peak was good enough to put him above Jeter too. Smith has a case. And that’s just post-WWII – Wagner and Arky Vaughn had silly numbers before that.
I really underrated just how overrated Jeter is.
The strangest aspect of this story is all the “pay him for the revenue he brings into the team off the field” nonsense. The Yankees have already offered him a generous over market deal. What people seem to want them to pay for is the industrial size hackist sewage that columnists and commentators write or say about him. And who in their right mind would pay for such a macguffin?
The odds that the Yankees would lose any noticeable percentage of revenues if they played 2011 without Jeter on the team seems very slim to me. Now the issue of coming up with another championship contender worthy starting SS is, as we know, another matter. But they can trade for JJ Hardy or Jason Bartlett just as easily as we can.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
Ozzie vs. Jeter is an interesting comparison, since they’re as different as two great shortstops can be. Take a ten-year peak period for each player (1983-92 and 1998-2007, respectively), and figure their average wRAA:
Ozzie: 5 runs per year
Jeter: 30 runs per year
Then figure their average defensive value via Total Zone:
Ozzie: +15 runs per year
Jeter: -10 runs per year
Stalemate.
My guess is that Jeter was actually much worse than Total Zone thinks he was, and that he’s really more comparable to Vizquel than to Ozzie.
Jeter/Larkin is the one I don’t understand. Their offensive numbers are identical, and Larkin was a better fielder.
People ding Larkin, perhaps deservedly, because of his inability to stay on the field.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I mean, for all of his faults, Derek Jeter takes the field basically every day (outside of 2003, when Ken Huckaby destroyed his shoulder), which has allowed the Yankees to carry some pretty abominable shortstop backups over the years.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
fWAR has them basically identical for their careers to this point. Durability is about = to fielding I guess.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 30, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Greatest cliff dive ever might be Nomar. He was just insanely valuable until he hit 30 then wasn’t worth a lick the rest of his career. Aside from 2001 when he missed nearly all the season with injuries, his WAR up until 30 is 5.9, 7.3, 6.5, 7.3, 6.7, 6.7. Then the last 6 years of his career are a combined 2.0.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
HGH IZ NOT ASTEROID
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
BLUTO IZ NOT A PLANET
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
BUT MI CHILDHOOD
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Ernie Banks was amazing for half his career and a AAAA player for the other half. It’s pretty incredible.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
noted absence of Vizquel
Of course, he’s notable because he’s the exact opposite – weirdly retaining his value at SS into his lower 40s
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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He had an awkward moment once-just to see what it was like.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Omar Vizquel
did anyone read this article yesterday ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
I read it just now. Interesting stuff. But I was in favor of him going to Cooperstown before reading it, so it didn’t have to convince me of anything. Thanks for the link!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I had always been a big Vizquel fan. Whe the Giants signed him, I was concerned that it would be another Sabean mistake because of his age. I was happily proved wrong until the injury in the last year of his Giants contract.
Dude made it look easy, and was a blast to watch in the orange and black. I have always thought that he should make it to Cooperstown, but I am an odd mix of fan that believes in the new metrics and my eyes, LOL.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
IIRC he was pretty rough offensively toward the end.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
You recall correctly
.222/.284/.267
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
that was a rather career bad year for Omar though.
in a part-time role in Chicago last year he put up:
.276 .341 .331
with a .979 fielding %
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve been yammering about this for a while. That 2008 season, horrible though it was, was basically a small-sample, low-BABIP fluke. His peripheral numbers — like line-drive rate, doubles rate, strikeout rate, walk rate — matched up well with his career numbers. And indeed, since then his peripherals have stayed the same, his BABIP has gone up, and his OBP is once again high enough to justify keeping his glove in the lineup.
I’m hoping he can keep this going till he’s fifty.
Plus, I just like there to be some variety in the type of baseball player that gets to Cooperstown. Maybe is the crappy aftertaste of Jim Rice, but I like seeing some graceful, athletic types with eye-popping defensive skills in my Hall.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
This is my line as well.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
In the same line of thought. And I’m still wondering how Roberto Alomar wasn’t a first ballot HOFer.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Spittle.
and, he was robbed.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
He was robbed indeed
there is a poll/post going on. He is still on the ballot for 2011. with a career line of .300/.371/.443 wOBA .365 and a career WAR of 4, on stats alone he should be in.
And of course..the whole saliva thing.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
I am fine with that line of thinking, but I just don’t think Vizquel quite makes the cut. I am open to an argument that he is closer to deserving enshrinement than Jim Rice is, though.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’m really surprised how many people want Vizquel in the hall. Throughout his entire career, fans and managers almost never voted him into AS games, GM’s never gave him big contracts, writers never gave him MVP votes. He won Gold Gloves, obviously, as everybody knew how good he is with the glove, but as an overall player, he was never considered great. Did people suddenly change their mind, or do they want him in the hall even though he wasn’t a great player?
It just seems odd – Rice, for example, clearly didn’t have the numbers to make the hall, but it’s not surprising that he made it in – he had 8 AS appearances, won an MVP, finished in the top-5 5 other times, and was “the most feared hitter of his generation”, whatever that means. He was clearly considered an amazing player, even if he really wasn’t.
I'm still totally against it
but let me add to your reasoned approach that he would also be moving from the AL East to the NL West, which would surely help his numbers, at least somewhat.
But still… he’s going to be 37. No.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see why the NL West would necessarily help his numbers. He’d be playing in less hitter-friendly ballparks (on average) and still facing pretty good pitching. The NL’s weaker, sure, but I don’t know why I’d expect a hitter who went from AL East to NL West to improve his numbers. A pitcher, sure, definitely, but I see as much going against a hitter making that transition as for him.
NL West ballparks are pretty neutral
Colorado and Arizona— Great hitters parks
Petco and Chavez Latrine— Pitchers parks
Mays Field— somewhere in between
Generally speaking, I just think the talent level is slightly less in the NL than the AL— not so much that an average AL player would become elite in the NL or anything, but enough that you’d see a slight bump on the whole from players moving from the junior to the senior circuit.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 30, 2010 2:07 AM PST up reply actions
NL West parks are neutral
AL East Parks are not. Yankee Stadium, Jeter’s current home park, is tied for fourth most hitter-friendly in baseball. Boston’s third-best, and Baltimore and Toronto are neutral. Only Tampa is pitcher-friendly. By contrast, AT&T is neutral, and the road parks in the NL West are also on average neutral. So Jeter would be going from a hitter-friendly home park to a neutral one, and from playing half his road games in slightly hitter-friendly parks to playing them in neutral ones. That doesn’t sound like a recipe for better numbers, even if you allow for slightly better competition.
I like it
I think Jeter will be an MVP candidate in the National League. The pitching is so much easier. And he will be a better defneder because no one in the National League hits the ball as hard as they do in the AL. He will not only replace Uribe’s home runs, but he can really be a good mentor to our up and coming SS prospects like Burriss, not to mention a good clubhouse leader.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions
Derek Jeter also cures cancer.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know...
…there are more teams in the NL – that’s more teams he has to beat all by himself. So it might be more difficult than he thinks. Then again, even the best NL teams are worse than the Orioles.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Actually, I have a really difficult time imagining him fitting into the Giants’ zany clubhouse. He’s so … corporate. Hard to imagine him lighting up a blunt with Timmy or giving Huff a thong wedgie. Plus, I’ll bet he looks like crap with a beard.
IAWTC
I am definitely in the “winning is fun” camp when it comes to chemistry, but I don’t think the Giants need a “captain”. They already have about 5.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
the 2010 clubhouse was more like an anarchist collective.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
They take it in turns, to act as a sort of executive officer for the week
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Nov 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. ..
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I disagree with this
So it’s safe to assume that to steal him away from the Yankees, another team would need to at least match the 3/$45M offer.
You’re ignoring the scenario that Jeter signs for less than the Yankees offer out of hurt pride and the desire to make Hank Steinbrenner face the public relations nightmare. It’s not as if Jeter needs the money – the heartburn he’d be causing Steinbrenner would be worth more to him than the salary he’d be losing. The Yankees have deliberately leaked details of the negotiation to the press in an attempt to make Jeter look greedy and bad. Jeter is not likely to forget this. I’m not predicting this will happen, I’m just stating that the possibility is much higher than people are acknowledging. The longer it drags on, and the more leaks that come out, the more likely it will be that Jeter jumps ship.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Don’t forget how many years Yogi Berra stayed away from the Yankees out of just a similar sense of wounded pride. I think it lasted for more than 10 years.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think it lasted for more than 10 years.
JETER FOR 10 YEARS – GIT ER DUN SABES
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 29, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Just in case you aren’t kidding, Yogi was not a player by then.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
But...
Even if Jeter wanted to go for the “eff you” gesture, wouldn’t he want to go to a team where he’d be the biggest star? It seems like the Giants give him minimal upside, since they’re already the Champs, and they already have one superstar (Lincecum), one star (Wilson), and another star in the making. If the Giants were somehow to sign Jeter and repeat, Jeter wouldn’t get much credit since they’d already won without him.
I’d think Jeter would be more interested in repeating than in receiving the most credit. By 36, he’s GOT to be thinking he can’t be the biggest star on a team, or that team is royally fucked.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Meh…going to the reigning world champions for less money is not bad as far as “eff you” gestures go. I’m not personally that against the idea if the contract was for one or two years. Preferably one.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I really don’t think that scenario exists at all in any likelihood. I think there’s a scenario in which the Yankees revoke their offer and walk away like they did with Damon and he’s forced to take what the market offers up. But I don’t think there’s a scenario in which he willingly leaves money on the table AND walks away from the Yankees.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
I'm not saying it's likely, but there is more than a little chance
1. Jeter has a hell of a lot of pride, and doesn’t need the money like Damon did.
2. There’s absolutely no way that you can equate the way that the Yankees view Jeter right now to the way they viewed Damon last year. Jeter is Mr. Yankee. No matter how much they may want to tell him to F off, there is no way the Yankee FO will walk away from the table first. It would be a public relations disaster. Even Hank Steinberg isn’t that dumb. No, they have to make it look like Jeter was the bad guy. Unless the Yankees up their current 3/$45M offer, the only way for Jeter to save any face now is to walk away and take less money than what the 3/$45M. Think of how things worked out between Trevor Hoffman and the Pads 2 years ago. It was a very similar situation, and the Pads management ended up with a public relations debacle there.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Yes
This and the no-need-to-match-3/45 are good points.
Totally agree: not remotely likely, but there is a certain logic to be followed here.
Also, notwithstanding the fact that the credit would be far from all his, signing with a contender and winning a championship outside of NY is a way bigger F-U to Yankee brass than signing with the Royals and being the top-dog.
To me, agents don’t say Fuck You. They take the most money that’s on the table unless there’s extremely pressing reasons not to. Veteran stars feel that any decrease in annual salary is the greatest crime against god and humanity, but once that threshold is irretrievably crossed (as I think is going to be the case with Jeter this year), you make the best deal you can. Jeter’s agent isn’t going to take moral satisfaction in saying Fuck You for the price of some $25 mil, and neither is Jeter.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
And he probably wants 10% of the Yankees’ number more than he wants 10% of anyone else’s number.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Just remember
Im only a non-tender away
by Back to the pac on Nov 29, 2010 4:34 PM PST reply actions
He will be tendered – the Twins just have too much leverage not to – and they haven’t signed Nishioka yet.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
If Nishioka signs (which he says he wants to) and Hudson accepts arbitration, they aren’t going to have much of a choice…
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
We’ll find out if it’s true on Thursday, but the story that has gone around is the Hudson agreed to turn down arb before the Twins offerred it to him.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
It’s not that uncommon for handshake deals to occur on that with Type B guys (not Type A, obviously, since it can affect their market). The Yankees essentially announced they had an agreement with Vasquez when they offered him arbitration, and I think it’s pretty widely accepted that Trevor Hoffman and the Brewers did, too. I gather some agents just find it an acceptable way of keeping relations friendly with teams.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
I don’t know. Agents must not think so because you hear about these deals every year. The signing team doesn’t have to give anything up, so there’s no disincentive. The only cost that exists at all is that all teams are moved down one spot in the draft order from Round 2 on and that’s the kind of nebulous cost that nobody feels "they’re paying’ which tend to get swallowed up in the system.
Is there a perspective effect that a player was “worth” arbitration, while others weren’t? That seems pretty tenuous, though if it exists at all it’s in the players favor on the market, so that could be an inducement to handshake deals. That’s pretty thin though.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
Hey...
that guy has some pretty, calm eyes as well. How many Gold Gloves has he won? How many Championships?
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
LEARN HOW TO SIT IN A CHAIR!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Sabes will show him how!
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Jesus Christ
That isn’t Sabean’s foot sticking out from the left is it?
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
He’s sitting in a wormhole.
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LOL SUSAN
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Where's the animated tire kicking version of this .gif?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
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by Natto on Nov 29, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
I AM UP IN ARMS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
So rec'd. SO REC'D!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Interestingly, while viewing this particular GIF for many minutes, the song "Barbara Streisand" magically appeared on my radio.
The tire kicking matches the beat EXACTLY! I don’t know what to make of this, but I think that it’s possible that Babs is a Giants fan. That’s the only thing that makes sense of this.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
so, so good
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
YAY!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Day Three:
Still watching tire kicking .gif. Will try to stop tomorrow.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Nov 29, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
THE MASTER
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Hey, the sign says “No Standing”. Might as well do it in style.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 29, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
If non-tendered, Hardy is certainly the best option.
I’m not sure he’s the best trade target, though.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Non Tendered Hardy
No additional comment required.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Many would love to tender Hardy.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's time we all admitted it
I’m still afraid to trade with the Twins. Who’s with me?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Except you're not.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Come on guys...
For a few years it would be fun to troll Yankee fans with Jeter.
Giants Fan: We just won the World Series!
Yankee Fan: Bitch, please, we have 27.
Giants Fan: Yeah, but we have Jeter.
Yankee Fan: 27 CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Giants Fan: Oh man, its so nice to have Jeter.
Yankee Fan: TWENTY-SEVEN!
Giants Fan: JETER! HA! HA! WE HAVE JETER!
I would rather be happy with our championship and saved 50 million dollars.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
This
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Oh.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Yankee Fan: WE ARE GOING TO SIGN POSEY AND LINCECUM AWAY FROM YOU IN 5 AND 3 YEARS, RESPECTIVELY.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
OR 6 AND 2 YEARS, OR WHATEVER
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
RESPECTIVELY
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Is this a direct quote?
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Yes
WE ARE GOING TO SIGN POSEY AND LINCECUM AWAY FROM YOU IN 5 AND 3 YEARS, RESPECTIVELY.
OR 6 AND 2 YEARS, OR WHATEVER
RESPECTIVELY
- GrahamCrakalaka 11/29/10
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
So you're a Yankee fan then?
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Yep. Just figured I would get an early start on rooting for Lincecum and Posey.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
You'll be sorry when the Giants win the World Series 22 times in a row!
Then who will be counting the rings, huh? It will be us!
Well it will also be you because we will make you count the rings as we shove them in your face.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
In only 3 years!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I always like to accurate
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Whenever someone says this I roll my eyes...
but deep in my heart it stings a little. Please don’t leave me…
;,,(
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
THEY WILL LOOK GOOD IN PINSTRIPES
MYSTIQUE!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
pshh there’s no way Timmy will go somewhere where they make him cut his hair he’s a 2 time cy young award winner dammit!!
by 49erEmpire on Nov 29, 2010 4:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
By the time his contract is almost up, he will have more than 2 Cy Young Awards.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
And by the time the Yankees can overpay him, the Junior Steinbrenners will have changed the culture of the Yankees so badly, Pa George wouldn’t recognize it anymore.
Exhibit A: The Derek Jeter Fiasco.
Point being, either they’ll no longer have twice the payroll of every other team, or Lincecum will be able to have long hair.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Lord knows Hank goes through a pound of blow every week.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I was listening to Bill Simmons' podcast today
and he came up with something that I found quite funny— the Steinbrenners are like the Corleone without Michael. There was the old don (now dead), and now they’re just left with Sonny, Fredo and a boatload of cash and power they have no idea how to use.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
*like the Corleones
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
That would be funny, but Sonny and Fredo won a championship...and by that I mean...
they didn’t screw things up in spending a boatload of cash on FA’s.
It might be run by Sonny and Fredo, but methinks that a wise consigliere or two like Tom Hagen is still advising them.
God damn it all, I keep reading Frodo.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Too bad the 49ers got stuck...
…with Connie Corleone and her gringo hubby + Vincent Mancini when Uncle Eddie got sold down the river
pshh there’s no way Timmy will go somewhere where they make him cut his hair
Top Ten Reasons I, Jason Giambi, Want To Play For The New York Yankees
10. "I want to help the team fight embarrassment of not winning world championship in 14 months"
9 “When you say, ‘David Wells sent me,’ you get half-price drinks at Hooters”
8 “Pinstripes are slimming”
7 “After Chuck Knoblauch, people will think I have a great arm”
6 “I hear Steinbrenner is a dream to work for”
5 “Miss Cleo told me to”
4 “Diving into the stands for a foul ball and ‘accidentally’ landing on Donald Trump’s date”
3 “Have you ever been to Oakland?”
2 “In New York I’m closer to my favorite talk-show host — Regis”
1 “After the game, cruising bars with Giuliani and picking fights”
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Dave really loved making fun of Knoblauch.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 6:41 AM PST up reply actions
Well
He was a pretty easy target … you’d have to really clench up to aim but miss ’im …
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Ummm
yeah
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
On the bright side...
Uribe signed elsewhere, and now we have a shiny sandwich round draft pick, with which we will draft the next Willie Mays.
And it’ll all be because of the Dodgers. Thanks, LA!
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:40 PM PST reply actions
Mmmm, shiny sandwich.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
If you’re baking fresh bread, and you coat it with a little bit of beaten egg before putting it in the oven, it will probably come out shiny. There. I rest my case.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
It will come out golden brown…it would shiny before you put it in…but if you like bread dough with egg wash on it…more power to you…
The crustier French and Italian breads (with egg wash applied before cooking) look shiny to me… in addition to being golden brown. I’m talking about the outer crust of course, not coating individual slices with egg.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Also, whatever man, I’m hungry.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Well here you go then
http://www.sporcle.com/games/mselby/sandwiches
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I only got 16. I couldn’t remember some of the names.
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I got 16 too.
My favorite was the Fluffernator. Arnold blushed at that one, I’m sure.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
24/25
Thanks to typing in random ingredients based on the pictures, I got them all except for the one in the skillet. What the hell is a Hot Brown?
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 29, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
I blame the system!
They’re the ones who accept “turkey cranberry” for “Gobbler”.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 29, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
I typed in “au jus” for French Dip.
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Me too
cause I could not remember the real name.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I put in "Thanksgiving"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
What if you ordered a SOLID GOLD GLOVE SANDWICH?
The kind that DEREK JETER eats? He wants THAT sandwich shiny, I bet.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
He also eats leadership sandwiches, which are characterized by grittiness.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
I once ate a regular, non-solid gold sandwich at the beach, and that sandwich was FULL of grittiness.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
You, my friend, have consumed an Aaron Rowand Sandwich.
This delicacy comes with veteran grit without the shenanigans which some refer to as “true performance.” No longer will you have to search through the shiny metal and expensive incentive-laden sandwiches when you can just buy the Aaron Rowand sandwich at DOUBLE THE PRICE. But wait, there’s more. If you buy this sandwich within the next 10 minutes, we’ll throw in the uncanny ability to catch anything while near a wall. How could you ever fail a pick-up attempt if you lean on your brick friends? CALL NOW to order.
by garbanzo24 on Nov 29, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/ golf clap
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Just get Bartlett so this isnt even a consideration
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
I think my trade hierarchy looks something like
Hardy > Scutaro > Bartlett.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Assuming, of course, equal prospect packages required to obtain.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Why not target Lowrie instead? The BoSox have Iglesias waiting in the wings at AA as their SS for the next 10 years (starting in 2012).
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Thank you!
I’ve been suggesting this and no one has taken the bait. What’d you think it’d take to get him?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
They’d probably start by asking for MadBum, then drop down to Z. Wheeler and another decent prospect (like Dan Burkhart or Heath Hembree). In the end, I think we might be able to get him for a package like Affeldt/Romo, Thomas Neal/Jorge Bucardo, and Dan Burkhart.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
MadBum is a flat out NO and I’d rather not give away Wheeler. But if you’re right and those last couple of deals would work I’d love it.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Hey, where were you when I wrote the following in Grant’s “Trading For A SS” thread?
A couple of other ideas for SS.
1. The BoSox have super-prospect Jose Iglesias waiting in the wings. He’ll turn 21 in January. He played 57 games in the AA Eastern League in 2010, and should start there again next Spring. Most analysts predict that he’ll be ready to make the jump to the majors as early as the start of the 2012 season. Instead of trying for Scutaro, I think that Sabes should make a run at Jed Lowrie, the other SS on the Boston roster. He’s the reason why they’re willing to trade Scutaro, but he’s not supposed to be as good as Iglesias. Lowrie would cost a lot more than Scutaro, but he’s the only guy mentioned that would be a likely long-term solution for the Giants. His major league slash in 499 AB’s, across 3 seasons is:
.253/.336/.425/.761
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Getting distracted by sub-threads?
What’s Lowrie’s contract situation like?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Consider me sold. Though, since his name hasn’t popped up anywhere I’m guessing the chances here are slim.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
au contraire
As reported by Baggs just a few hours ago:
Giants VP Bobby Evans declined to comment on the deal, saying it wasn’t official. He wouldn’t disclose whether Uribe’s agent, Scott Shapiro, had informed him that they were out of the running. But Evans indicated the Giants were ready to look in other directions.
"We’re exploring all possibilities on the trade and free-agent front," Evans said. "Some of them are the names that have been out there, others are not as well known."
Lowrie would fit that description – as would any other SS that hasn’t been frequently mentioned yet.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
shrug Keep hoping then?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
What do you mean? Evans is confirming that the Giants are serioulsy considering making a trade (since there are no other FA shortstops that haven’t “been out there”) for a SS that isn’t well-known – Lowrie would fit that description perfectly.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I’d do Affeldt/Bucardo/Burkhart for Lowrie in a heartbeat.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
He would cost a lot more than Bartlett, and I don’t see him as being that much of a better solution in the short- or long-term.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Well, in SAT terms I was doing the Lowrie is to Scutaro as Brignac is to Bartlett bit. In both cases, the older, more expensive veteran is being shopped specifically because the teams want the younger, cost-controlled guy to take over the position. Scutaro isn’t available because the Sox think they can get anything particularly special out of him, he’s available because they want Lowrie to be their starting SS next year.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
Iglesias is a lot closer to ML ready for the Red Sox than Tim Beckham is for the Rays, right?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
yes
Beckham played the full season in A+ ball and had huge issues with his D, while putting up an OPS of .705. Most analysts suggest he will have to move off SS before he makes it to the majors.
Iglesias played his last 2 months of the season in AA (Eastern League), where he was considered a defensive wunderkind, and he put up a .672 OPS. He also played the entire AFL season. He is major league-ready now in the field.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
OT:
Dammit cable guy. You said 4-6, I was prepared for 5:30. But then you call me at 2 pm and tell me you are in the neighborhood, working quickly and would like to come by then, only I am at work so I cannot accept. That’s why I scheduled 4-6. However that gave me hope you would be here almost at 4 or at least 4:30. HOPES EFFECTIVELY DASHED.
Go to hell.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Tangent
I hate the cable companies…especially my (Cox)….why is it okay for cable companies to run a monopoly in markets? Why can’t Time Warner or Adelphia come into my area?
HAHA YOU HATE YOUR COX
ahem…sorry
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 29, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Geez…come on…grow up! Internet is about serious discussions and news…no joking or sexual references…
You're right
Let’s discuss the prospect of getting Bocock back.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Sadly, it does not appear that Bocock Got Back.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
local angles always make me sad.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
acute angles make me sad. Like, why can’t they be bigger?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
But they’re so acute! Aww!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Right angles represent intractability and intolerance. Who wouldn’t fall for an acute one??
by Timorous Me on Nov 29, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
My math teacher I had the second time I was in the 5th grade told me that I had an angle for everything, and that the angle was obtuse.
I have no idea what that meant.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 30, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
you repeated the fifth grade?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I see your Cox, and I raise you Charter. Dealing with that company was the most horrible experience I’ve ever had that didn’t relate to the Giants losing.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
I see your Cox
tee hee.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
VAPORS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
DONT SCAN MY JUNK MAN
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I don’t remember any bad experiences with Charter, personally.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
I went through three boxes and within a few months their feed would get choppy and eventually freeze. I kept losing all the recorded programs, their customer relations were horrible, they agreed to take charges off, and then they didn’t.
Every time they would send a technician out or deal with me over the phone, they would ask about the “2nd box.” I only had one box and one TV in my apartment. I finally ended the service and told them to pick up the box, and they never came. They started calling me to pick it up a few weeks later, and I set a time for them to come by. They never came. They just started calling me again.
/End long rant
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
I had something similar, though it was a few years ago and don’t remember the details very clearly. I ended up driving to return the box (because I was moving out of LB) to the facility. I believe it was on the west side of the 710 near the city of Carson.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Jeter could go into F-U mode and take something like 3 years, 50 million from the Giants. I think he’ll bounce back, his numbers were so good the season before this last season, and with him trying to prove himself, he could become a defensively average shortshop with serious offensive mojo.
Just, no.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
How did 3 year 50 million a bargain…what are we Texas Rangers circa 2001?
Jeter can be on the Giants for 2 year/$15-20 million…
Uribe could have been on for $21 million
all of these scenarios just make me angry.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I’m all for a Jeter F-U deal. But NOT at 3 years, 50 million. It’d have to be for one year, maaaaaaaaaaybe two. And for less than 10mil a year. Or at he most, 10 mil for 1 year.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Do the Giants have any calm eyes in their farm system?
I think a scenario where Jeter signs a one-year, comparatively low-paying deal with someone else “just to prove a point” to the Yankees, only to almost instantly regret doing so before having a completely miserable season, would be an entertaining turn of events. Though I’d prefer that team not be the Giants. And I’d prefer to not have to hear about that decision every single day for the next year. On second thought, forget the whole thing.
I'll sign my own Jeter!
With calm eyes! And hookers! In fact, forget the Jeter!
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
by GiantBrass on Nov 29, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this never fails to make me laugh.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 29, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Wow! Now I feel calm.
weird
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Everything will work out.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
is there a picture of Uribe with a dodger hat on yet?
because that’s definitely gonna make me puke
by 49erEmpire on Nov 29, 2010 4:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
the first thread has an amazing photoshop of natto’s jazz hands pic, but no actual team photos yet.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 29, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Jeez
Pretty good 1999 and 2000
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 29, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Also
Whenever there are stories about athletes in big-stakes negotiations, it’s hard for me to get into the mindset where such huge sums of money are not only insufficient offers but insulting ones. Not saying that the most talented players in the world (and Derek Jeter, har har) shouldn’t negotiate this way, just that it’s hard to get my head around when finding a five dollar bill on the sidewalk makes my day.
Well it's much the same for rich people,
except where you find a $5 bill on the sidewalk, they find the deed to a diamond mine in the Congo.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Whats Aurilia doin these days?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 5:09 PM PST reply actions
I bet he’s bemused.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
That is a pretty cool patch.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It wouldn’t be a trade, he’s a FA. But I get your point.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
She’s attracted to herself?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Why is there Michael Jordan branded baseball gear?
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No, no, no...
That’s the “Past A Diving Jeter” logo flipped 90 degrees.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
by GiantBrass on Nov 29, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Because his baseball career was about as succesful as Derek Jeter’s defense – and Derek Jeter is a MULTI GOLD GLOVE WINNER.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
ouch
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
How much worse?
I mean, GOLD GLOVE GRITTINESS!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well, not really
Absent some compelling rationale to do otherwise, I think it’s best to use career UZR numbers to maximize the sample size. By that standard Bartlett’s much better. Jeter’s been better the last two years, but UZR is pretty volatile.
In 2009-2010, yes, and it’s not even that close. Career-wise, though, Barlett’s UZR/150 is a million times better.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
AHHH
DID NOT CLICK OPEN IN NEW WINDOW!!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Best Batting Gloves in the world
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 29, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
(I don’t want to make a big deal of it, and I don’t think my opinion on the matter means all that much, but I feel like I should mention that I don’t really like these kind of comments.)
by Seasick fish on Nov 29, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not a fan either.
It’s really not that difficult to find pictures or videos of attractive women.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Just Google “how can I find pictures or videos of attractive women?” It’ll give you plenty of helpful results telling you how to Google pictures or videos of attractive women.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Ba ba ba ba ba ba baaaaaaaaaa
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
You can certainly Bing "how can I find pictures or videos of attractive women?" It’ll give you plenty of helpful results telling you how to Google pictures or videos of attractive women.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Where’s the attractive woman in that picture?
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 29, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
On the right.
Real men don’t get caught faking injuries through beanballs that were clearly far from contact. He’s not the only one to do this, and has many more annoying qualities, but this certainly was the final nail in my respect-for-Jeter coffin, long before the offseason was upon us.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I’m also in agreement with you.
I get pretty weirded out by the communal ogling of player’s wives. I even get weirded out by the communal ogling of Goofus’s wife. But to his credit, he always seems okay with it.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
do you get similarly weirded out by the communal ogling of married players? I
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
It’s just layers of weird. I think it’s weird to communally ogle anybody. I mean, I’ll ogle plenty of people on my own time. I might even mention to a friend how good looking I think a person is, and if they agree that’s totally fine. But I won’t pull together a group of a people so that we can collectively drool on each other’s shoelaces. That seems gross to me.
That’s the first layer of weird.
The second layer of weird is the dissociative “X’s wife” thing. It’s weird that part of the appeal of a player’s wife is the player himself. Like this person is extra hot because she’s seen Derek Jeter’s knob.
The first layer of weird, I can deal with. Add on the second layer of weird, and I get pretty uncomfortable.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Ok. I honestly don’t care much or have strong feelings on the subject either way. I was just curious if you felt the player wife ogling was much different than the player ogling and then if so, why you feel that way. The inappropriateness of ogling around here is a subject thats been brought up before, but I just find it mildly interesting that it seems to only go one way in most of the complaints.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I just think it’s extra weird when it’s ogling by association. At least when people ogle Buster Posey, they’re ogling Buster Posey. It can get weird, sure, but it’s easy to check that discomfort. If people weren’t ogling Buster himself, but were instead ogling Buster Posey’s wife’s husband, that’s where I think something extra weird is going on.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Ogling is so passive; I’m all about the fondling.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
But wouldn’t it be weird if you were fondling communally?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
That is why I joined McC.
I was told there would be communal fondling.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
St. Mc of C
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t ogle player’s wives! :D
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 29, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
That’s why I like you so much.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
I have no idea what any of these women see in him.
Aside from the money and the fame.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
You don’t see the calm eyes?
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 29, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
wow
his daughter is pretty cute and doesn’t look much like him.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Velez
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 29, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh, how that cracked me up. seriously. LOL
Proud Parent of AT&T Park. so far. well, until someone tells me my 42,000 seat son is already taken. in which case, i would adopt the hot dog vendor in section 332.
by giant4life83 on Nov 30, 2010 2:14 AM PST up reply actions
i can just see someone screaming that at him as he is on the ground backing into a corner
Proud Parent of AT&T Park. so far. well, until someone tells me my 42,000 seat son is already taken. in which case, i would adopt the hot dog vendor in section 332.
by giant4life83 on Nov 30, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions
gottaaaaaaaaaa goooooooooo
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POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-PIN
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
we just need some new chants
who wants to dig up the “Hail to the Buster” song from his FSU days?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 29, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Trade for vowel sounds!
Get it done, Sabes.
by Seasick fish on Nov 29, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Neuuuuuuuuuuuukom
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 29, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-STER
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Also works without the question mark in the middle.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
by scout6 on Nov 29, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
TWHS
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 29, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
i bleed orange and black
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
winn is unrated
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Dammit
*wynn
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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haha, this kinda reminds me of what we chanted while pledging
“I BLEED THE GARNET AND GOLD!!!!!!!”
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Your fraternity is Florida State University!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Well.. they do have a huge chapter there
Heck, Bobby Bowden is a pike… but no
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It just seems like a very random color combination to share! I mean, garnet? I don’t think I’d ever even heard of that before I got here!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
It was a good one.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Don't you guys get it....
The Yanks failed in the playoffs, really stunk the place up. This Jeter thing is just a soap opera to keep the NY locals from burning down their new stadium. Jeter already has a deal in hand with the Yanks, but part of the deal was he has to play Drama Queen until spring training starts and the front office gets the fireproofing done at their park.
OT
Why do reporters have to report from the street when they’re doing a story that doesn’t call for it? This guy on Channel 2 just started a story about prostate cancer by standing next to UCSF and then walking over to a laptop propped up on a trash can and pointing to the prostate on a CAT scan cutaway.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Sometimes though I wish KTVU had the Giants back and not NBC San Jose.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I think they'll go to 162 Comcast games pretty soon
It seems like The only NBC games are Friday night home games, dodger games, mets games, A’s games and the occasional weeknight game. Still though i think that’s more than most teams broadcast over the air.
That song lied to me.
I was told that they were back on 2, and that it’s where they would stay. LIES
gotta be KRON
I like the morning show version, where they send some poor bastard to stand outside City Hall in the dark. “In just 6 hours, someone will be here to unlock the door and the Supervisors will…”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Marco Scutaro!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I love that guy!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Sandoval and Sanchez for Hanley
Problem, SS?
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Yes, let's make trade suggestions for the one player the Marlins will not trade.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Cane for Feeldur
Feeldur for Uggla
Uggla for Ramirez
QED
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand and Sandoval for Uggla!
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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It’s about a year too long, for a team in a financial shambles, so they ought to be.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
yeah, i was reading that tbla site and they don't like the deal...
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 29, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Fine by me!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
we’ll can throw in ramirez too
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Literally the only way I see Jeter signing with the Giants....
Is if Jeter is so delusional that he thinks he can pull a Beltre and re-establish his value
WOW
MLBRumorCentral ESPN
by keithlaw
Keith Law is reporting tonight that Rockies are close to a 10-year deal with Tulowitzki. Story soon. http://es.pn/ssfordough
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
*whistles*
Dang
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Dude's awesome
But pretty injury prone. Hope this means they wont be able to sign CarGo in a few years
CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP
TU-LOL
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
might be worth it - Tulowitzki can actually hit worth a damn on the road
CarGo on the other hand is a joke away from Coors field..
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 29, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Holy shit, a 10-year extension for Tulo?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Apparently it encompasses his current control through 2014.
So more like a 6 year extension, but wow nonetheless.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
That's slightly less insane then...
Any word on the amount?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Actually, they’re talking about tearing up the rest of the contract for the next 3 years and giving him more money from the start of the 2011 season, so it is a 10 year deal.
And what are the Rox thinking? Didn’t they learn anything from the 10 year deal they gave Helton that became an albatross after 5.5 years?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Someone said down below...
He knows too much about the humidor.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
See above.
But yeah, that’s a good reaction.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Considering the world will end in 2012, it makes more sense.
Hey, we should’ve offered Uribe 3 years.
by Murray, Present on Nov 29, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Sources: Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki is closing in on a new mega-deal that could be as long as 10 years. He is already signed (more)
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
through the 2013 season, with an option for 2014, and the new deal, when completed, will encompass the remaining years on his old contract.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Damn. He knows too much about the humidor?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Apparently.
“Sign or we’ll have to shoot you!”?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Does he know about the Giants' reverse humidor?
It’s a giant™ hot box
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
LOL
Nice
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
He could make more and play on a better team, but what hitter wants to leave Coors?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Nov 29, 2010 6:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
No to Jeter
On the Bartlett/Scutaro/Hardy wagon
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I feel like there are more SS options this offseason than people realize.
I’d be perfectly happy if Scutaro or Hardy ended up in a Giants uniform. And the comp pick is going to turn into a good player.
Second assertion pulled out of jcb9’s ass.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yeah I’d be on board with Scutaro or Hardy.
Jason Bartlett seems like a slightly younger version of 2009-2010 Edgar Renteria with worse defense and a higher price tag. 2009 was an aberration for him. Am I missing something?
Cody Ross - He's not Jose Guillen!
He seems like he’ll be cheap to acquire and ZiPS projects him at .275/.343/.383.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The amount of attention he is getting per mlbtraderumors with regard to number of teams interested worries me as far as trade price goes. However, if that overstates his market value, I’m perfectly fine with him as a stopgap in exchange for a relief arm not named Wilson, Romo, or Runzler.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Has there been a ZiPS for Renteria yet? Bill James has him and Bartlett not far apart at all.
Bartlett: .279/.345/.380
Renteria: .274/.333/.381
Cody Ross - He's not Jose Guillen!
That’s a relatively large gap, when proclivity toward injury is taken into account.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
An 11 point OPS gap isn’t THAT big, but injury is a legitimate concern. That being said, Bartlett does seem to get injured often as well.
Taking defense into account it seems like a crap shoot. Bartlett has posted negative UZR/150 the past 2 years and has been in freefall since 2006.
Cody Ross - He's not Jose Guillen!
To make a minor quibble, a direct comparison of OPS understates the offensive value that the predicted Bartlett line produces relative to the Renteria one, in that a percentage point of OBP is a lot more valuable than a percentage point of SLG.
I found an article that runs a regression analysis on wOBA, OBP, and SLG to give a correlation equation for the three terms. Here it is if you are interested:
x = .56*OBP + .31*SLG
wOBA = -.53x^2 + 1.35x – .045
Using this formula, we get a wOBA of .325 for Bartlett and .317 for Renteria. This difference looks larger than expected by a straight OPS comparison to me, at least.
Overkill? Probably, but I felt like doing this as long as I had the resources.
For what it’s worth, Bill James predicts Bartlett to end up with 100 more PA than Renteria, which sounds like a good arbiter of injury likelihood to me.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
MAR-CO SCUTARO!
clap clap clap-clap-clap
by Murray, Present on Nov 29, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, this was a good year to lose a SS – Nishioka was posted, Jeter a FA, and Hardy, Scutaro, Bartlett, and Reyes all available in trade.
But seriously, just trade for Hardy. NOW.
What do we give up? The cupboard is kinda bare at the moment.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I imagine they’d ask for Belt, we’d say no, and they’d counter with Wheeler and something else.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah, there’s no way they start with Belt. Starting with Runzler would be a pretty bold move.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
I hope you guys are right. I’d trade Runzler for Hardy, easily.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I would be okay with this, despite Jeter being a hated Yankee
but he asked for 25 mil. per year for 6 years. While I’m sure his 2011 contract will be less than this, I just can’t justify paying Jeter anything over 10 mil. for over 2 years. Most of the money he’ll get from the Yankees is because of his career and role as their team captain. But for other teams, he doesn’t hol that type of value. Therefore, the Giants have no chance at Jeter simply because the Yankees have a reason to overpay for his possibly average production. We don’t.
by WasabiTorture on Nov 29, 2010 6:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
for some reason i thought the title was "biggest crap of the offseason"
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 29, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Sort of OT, but wow:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5864835&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
Cody Ross - He's not Jose Guillen!
No
Buster doesn’t have the range, and the team will be worse for it.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
And who’s saying Timmy doesn’t love pitching to Posey?
by In Bust we Trust on Nov 29, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
So did I fall in.
Or have you decided not to argue for your point?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So I did fall in!
:)
Ya got me…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I didn’t recognize the poster and fell as well.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 29, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
The “play Buster at SS” meme was pretty weird. Have people seen him move? He’s 23 and he’s already one of the slower guys on the team, there’s no chance he can handle SS.
I haven’t seen “Posey to SS” seriously (I don’t think) in a while, but “can’t DeRosa play SS?” is still hanging on. Which is doubly-weird since he hasn’t even been able to play ball in a couple of years.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
burris gotta go is actually hilarious
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 7:10 PM PST reply actions
burris gotta go
this guy couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat ,bring back kevin fransen fransen can hit and play with hustle
fred lewis needs to hit the cutoff man more often
wynn is unrated guy hits 300 10 hr 25 sb great defense and doesnt make the all stars is a shame he doesnt get the respect of other teams or fans when voting comes out
i bleed orange i bleed orange
go giants go giants
WWRWD?
by SF Pete on Nov 29, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
rec'd forever
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
all I remembered from this was
that Steve Wynn’s movie got no rating from the MPAA.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
tulo’s 6-year extension is believed to be worth about $120, bringing the 10-year total to about $160 mil. #rockies
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
16 million a year?
Thats actually not bad
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Not insane in price. The length of the contract, though. I mean it’s longer than Zito’s, and that thing’s unwieldy.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I seriously do not understand the need for these uber-long-term deals…in any sport.
Two words for hockey fans: Rick. DiPietro.
by Timorous Me on Nov 29, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
You sort of understand the 10 year deals for guys like Ovechkin and Crosby because they’ll be in their early 30s when the deal expires, and neither are injury-prone, but for everyone else it’s kind of odd. And for DiPietro it’s just another piece of evidence as to why the Islanders are a sad, sad organization.
For those not in the know, the NHL has a trend going on to have these insanely long front-loaded deals designed to cheat the cap, so there’s a bunch of guys who are signed for 10+ years, a lot of them into their early 40s. Roberto Luongo is signed for 12 years, Marian Hossa is signed for 12 years, Henrik Zetterberg is signed for 12 years, Alexander Ovechkin is signed for 10 years, 35-year-old Chris Pronger is signed for 7 years, Rick DiPietro is signed for 15 years, and Ilya Kovalchuk is signed for 15 years (originally 17 years, but the NHL rejected that contract). Already those types of deals have backfired, what with DiPietro being perpetually injured and Kovalchuk absolutely stinking it up for New Jersey.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
thats a lot of years for a guy who has already had significant injuries in half of his MLB seasons.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Provided he doesn't get hit in the hand with a pitch or lacerate his hand breaking a bat
there are really not much injury concerns. Outside of that, it’s just one hamstring strain, and that’s relatively tame injury history for four MLB seasons. The other two injuries have no predictive value
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 30, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe now he can afford some ProActive so he doesn’t have to suck the acne off his face.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Nov 29, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
That was disgusting...the first time I saw it I couldn't make out what he was doing...
when I back tracked the TiVo my suspicions were realized…just beyond grotesque.
This.
Cue Todd Helton 2.0
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I don’t understand this complaint. This a significantly better than an 8 year/$160 MM contract, right? So you mean the AAV (average annual value) is fine, but the total length is nuts?
I think the theory is the $$$ per year is good but you don’t pay any player 10 years at for top of line production…
Look at ARod…getting $30 million for 3.8 oWAR production
ARod’s original ten-year deal (2001-2010), though, was a fantastic deal for the Rangers, even though they panicked and dumped him in midstream. He was insanely valuable over those years.
I don’t understand why he became an FA in 2000, and not 2001 (he had only 5 years of service time). If he had stayed in Seattle for another year, the 2001 Mariners would have been the greatest team of all times.
Check out this 1-6
Ichiro-RF
Bret Boone-2B
Arod-SS
Olerud-1B
Edgar Martinez-DH
Cameron-CF
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
You can see why this team was sneaky good—-look at the defense in the OF.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
This is dumb. Why wouldn’t they just wait for his contract to expire to give him this type of extension? It’s not like they got a discount by signing him early, and it could turn into a disaster if he suffers a serious injury.
by kingofthacove on Nov 29, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Wow...I like Tulo but
he is a 6+ WAR guy right now but he basically would average that for his whole career just to have the contract be even…
Purple Row is elated about this extension and De La Rosa signing
Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid
meh
I can see why they would be, we would be about re-signing Jonathan Sanchez and locking up Buster Posey.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Thats a good extension. Assuming Tulowitzki doesnt get seriously injured. I would be elated too.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 29, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
He's been pretty injury prone
I’d be concerned about the length
They enjoy length.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
the girl in the radio ad says “width” is key…
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 29, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Well, if we re-signed Posey for 10 years, I wouldn’t necessarily think it’s a good move, but I’d definitely be happy to know he’s here for another 10 years.
I would love to have my favorites with me for a decade or more
I’m just afraid of the probability they’ll end up unfavorited long before the term is over.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Rockies close to signing De La Rosa too
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Initial take on Tulo deal: If it is possible to like a contract for both sides, it is possible to dislike one, too. This one is the latter.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Alright I'll bite
My guess is he think Tulo could get more money on the open mark so he doesn’t like it from his perspective.
However, he dislikes it for the Rockies because of the risk of Tulo getting hurt constantly
Niners doin' work.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
It's really amazing what the loss of Warner did to their team.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I think they suffered a lot of key losses, actually, but I’m too lazy to look it up to confirm.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Karlos Dansby
Antrel Rolle.
These guys were big losses. I said multiple times this offseason (only to my brother and not online, so there’s no proof) that these losses will result in markedly worse Cardinals team this year.
Man, those guys got paid.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
don't you mod an NFC west blog or something?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Heh. Just read the Rohlinger called up thread on McWiki
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
That was a frabjous day.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Milwaukee Sports Radio!
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
Jed Lowrie went to Stanford.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
graduate? or dropout like Tiger?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
He played three years at Stanford, I’m not sure if he was drafted after his Junior or Senior year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OK
Think he was drafted after his Junior year. That hardly constitutes a dropout though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He still avoided a degree, so shows good judgment.
[IIRC baseball scholarships cover returning to school and finishing up, assuming the player can’t afford to/ end rational mode]
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
That joke doesn’t even make sense.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Entering the draft to avoid being saddled with a lsjc degree makes perfect sense.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
eyeroll.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
eggroll
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
you eat it, damn it
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, that’s a meme I haven’t seen in a few months.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Yeah
I’ve been M.I.A. from McCC for a few months
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I don't spit on journalists
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I am here for.
Reviving dead meme’s since 2008
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
SO
While I was gone, who has been banned?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn’t take the world championness of it all?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 29, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
i was banned by that flying squirrel guy…
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 29, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
><
I just googled cal baseball wikipedia and the first result that came up was the Dodgers.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Don’t write a wiki on it now, it will just get flagged for removal. Dead team walking!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs food for thought
Gordon Beckham?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I feel like he’d be pretty pricey even after a down year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And
He had a solid second half. Not sure we line up trade-wise with the White Sox anyway. They need what we néed: More good hitters.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
But Mark Teahen and Juan Pierre!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
If I may pass along any wisdom gleaned from Pokemonz this past season
Teahen – no
Pierrewood – hell no
And while we’re on the subject of shortstops, I went through like 268. And the morale is: Erick Aybar sucks.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Is there really an accent aigu on the e in “need”?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
He has frightening hair.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Which Spice Girl is he married to? Old Spice?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
MADONNA GOT MARRIED AGAIN??
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 29, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Madonna with AROD AGAIN!?!??!?!
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
DUSTIN ACKLEY???????????
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
DUSTIN ACKLEY IS ON COCAINE AGAIN?????
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
COKIE ROBERTS IS DATING GORDON BROWN?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
"BROWN EYED GIRL" WAS ABOUT THE VIRGIN MARY?????
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
MADONNA GOT MARRIED AGAIN????
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
SHE MIGHT HAVE DONE SOMETHING WITH SOME GUY
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
BLOG LINKS MADONNA TO GUY FIERI!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
DINE HER, DRIVE IN N DIVE
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 30, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The other guy I was thinking about is Mike Aviles. Dude has INF versatility and as a bonus, is not Yuniesky.Betancourt.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
makes me laugh and laugh every time I see it
Yuniesky Betancourt ss
4 years/$13.75M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option
Oh, Bill Bavasi for signing the deal. Oh, Dayton Moore for trading for him.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
LOLs
The Mariners got two players for Betancourt. One hasn’t played in the Majors. The other has pitched 5.1 innings in the Majors.
Still, together, the two are worth just 0.1 WAR less than what the Royals have gotten out of Betancourt in a year and a half of being a regular player.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
nice
If Molina for Ray was a win-win, that bad boy is a lose-lose.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
my bad
win-win-win!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
That’s according to b-r’s WAR, by the way. Fangraphs has it even worse:
Betancourt: -0.6 WAR (-1.2 in 2009, 0.6 in 2010)
Cortes: 0.1 WAR
LOL Royals.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
That’s an even worse contract than I remember.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
umm... just a lil expensive
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
OT: i've never been so bored during a 4th quarter in my life... and the niners are up
by 21
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
AZ is a terrible terrible football team.
The niners manhandled them, and WITHOUT Frank Gore.
Holy cow, Derek Anderson BLEW UP
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
NFC West is shitty. Niners are one game out and 4-7.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Just wait
until MLB switches to 4-4 team divisions!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
The Pirates will have a chance!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Hoist the colours!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
SPELL LIKE AN AMERICAN
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
but Keira’s British!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Kick ’er to the kerb!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So yea... a good day to be Juan Uribe, huh?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
In an
“abandon all hope ye who enter here” kind of way, yes
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
OT: Gore out for the season... WOW
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
via Jason LaCanfora
Big win for 49ers but at a price – Frank Gore out for season with a hip injury. Tough loss. Brian Westbrook next man up.
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
via Maiocco
Frank Gore has a fractured right hip, 49ers say. Likely done for the season.
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I guess there won’t be a fifth consecutive thousand yard season.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Damnit... oh well... poor guy
Well, guess we’re onto seeing how Westbrook and Dixon do
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
lost season is lost
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
You’re the same kind of hater who gave up on the Giants when DeRosa was out for the year.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 29, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
More faith than me: I thought it was curtains when Aaron Rowand got his face broken.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t remember what point (at least, the first point)I gave up on the Giants season… maybe spring training?
by Every6thDay on Nov 30, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
So my current preference to solve our SS problem is:
1. See if the Twins are actually seriously shopping Hardy (I still kind of doubt it)
2. Kick the tires on Lowrie (if the Red Sox are seriously shopping him, which I doubt)
3. Trade reliever(s) for Scutaro
4. Trade reliever for Bartlett
5. Sign Tejada
6. Re-sign Renteria
…………….
7. Sign Cabrera
8. Go with a Fontenot/Rohlinger platoon
Egh
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
You are putting Tejada way too high imo.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
"ACK-LEYYYYYY!!!" /LAUGH TRACK
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Tejada and Rent are close to a toss-up for me
Who else would you try to sign from the FA pool above Tejada?
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
None
It’s probably trade or internal options for me. With only Lowrie being an interesting trade for me, followed by Hardy, then Bartlett.
I don’t think its worth paying any of the FA SS class this year.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I wouldn’t be opposed to both Tejada AND Renteria. That should leave us with only like 40 games with Burriss starting.
by Timorous Me on Nov 29, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t believe a self proclaimed OBP fetishist would be interested.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Putting the Tejada on a pedastal.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
“pedostall”
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 29, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I just watched Rudy again for like the 78th time
and got misty for the 78th time. I actually seriously considered going to ND (app’d and accepted but eventually went to Cal because it costs 70% less than going to ND).
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
LOL ANDERSON
GLENDALE, Ariz. — Arizona Cardinals quarterback Derek Anderson has shouted curses in a postgame tirade after he was repeatedly asked about smiling during the closing minutes of a blowout loss to the San Francisco 49ers.
TV cameras showed Anderson and guard Deuce Lutui smiling late in Arizona’s 27-6 loss Monday night, the Cardinals’ sixth defeat in a row.
When initially asked about the exchange, Anderson quietly said Lutui had said something to keep them positive.
Anderson, who was 16 of 25 for 196 yards, started to lose his temper as he was repeatedly asked about the context of the conversation. He began yelling and shouting expletives as the back-and-forth with a reporter continued, then abruptly walked out, saying he was done with the interview.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I'M NOT TAKING THIS LIGHTLY
CAN’T YOU SEE I’M YELLING
I actually think it was a stupid fucking question for the reporter to be so insistent about.
Oh my God, two players are smiling with each other? The HORROR!
Anderson took it a little too personally, but it was a dumbshit question to begin with.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
YOU MUST BE IN A VISIBLY BAD MOOD 100% OF THE TIME TO SATISFY MY JOURNALISTIC NEEDS RAAAAAAAAAAWR.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
OTHER PLAYERS WILL SEE THAT YOU’RE NOT TAKING THE GAME SERIOUSLY
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THE FANS DESERVE AN ANSWER!
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
ZOMG
Buster_ESPN
Heard this: the trade talks involving Jason Bartlett have moved to point where the Rays will find an acceptable deal for the shortstop.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 11:24 PM PST reply actions
Also
Aang check =====>
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
No
Buster is the CaughtStealing Bender
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 29, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
/Dodgers trade Uribe for Bartlett
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 6:51 AM PST up reply actions
OT: Update of SHOTY voting:
Thank you for voting!
LeBron James 45.39% (2,095 votes)
The Machine 54.61% (2,521 votes)
Total Votes: 4,616
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
what about the votes for shota?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 30, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
Why are we even talking about Jeter?
He’s not even close to worth what the Yankees are offering him. I’d rather take my chances with someone like Burris at SS until Crawford is big league ready than waste away on Jeter. Hell, I’d also rather bring back Renteria.
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
Same reason as the Noo Yawk papes
Boredom.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 30, 2010 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
because the blog overlord
told us to. We’re nothing if not compliant.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 6:52 AM PST up reply actions
Uribe and Renteria have each won the WS with twice as many teams as Jeter
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 30, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
And Jeter has probably made more money than them combined
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
BECAUSE IT'S FUNNY
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I am curious if anyone can explain to me
why RhyRohl doesn’t get more love in discussions like this.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
(I don’t get it. I mean, the dude’s got a pretty decent stick, yeah? I know he hasn’t done much in the bigs, but, also the part about how he hasn’t really been given a chance yet. Is he not really a shortstop, too clanky or something?)
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
(Did you just ask if he’s too “clanky?”)
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
I guess defensive concerns.
I wouldn’t mind having him as the backup option. Maybe platooning with Fontenot.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I almost hate to say this
1/20…
I’d rather get the prince for 20 mil, but either we get the yanks to reup, or we get a hitter, and it seems we lost uribe, what do we have???
My next move after picking up a SS is...
to get a lefty Power LF bat …The Giants will need to pick up a bat since Boo-ribe is gone down south and Burrell will probably not be back. Cody Ross will more than likely be back but will he give us another productive year? I’d take a chance on Brad Hawpe or better yet lure Scott Podsednik from the Dodgers…
Ideally I’d like to get Carl Crawford but doubt it actually happens. Stephen Drew is apparently on the Giants SS wish list but think Kevin Towers might want to much. Marco Scutaro is top of my SS list. After him, I’d take JJ Hardy over Bartlett. Miguel Tejada…mehh???
NO to Prince and his outrageous contract demands.
You realize
That Pat Burrell is much much better than either Brad Hawpe or Scott Podsednik, right?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Actually
With no Uribe, there are greater odds we see Pat again. If he will take a $5 million contract.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Bay Area Ties & Bromance discount!!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
that Bob Nightengale dude said Burrell would only get around the league minimum…looks like he’s way off…
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 30, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
You want a power LF bat, but you’re targeting Scott Podsednik?
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Johnny Damon is available too!
C’mon Agent Ned – that is some great grit available!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I want to see True Grit.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Jeff Bridges 4/$50 – git r dun Agent Ned!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
SWOOP SABES!
WE NEED A LEBOWSKI NIGHT AT THE BALLPARK!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Yes I know Pat the Bat is better but
knowing Sabes he’ll take a chance on a younger or proven player that’s gonna have a bounce back year and try to luck like a genius all over again. I’m okay with Pat with a one year 5million deal but really want him to sign a Jason Werth or Carl Crawford type of caliber…
cough reply button…
Anyhow, I think we have a fair chance of getting Burrell back, especially since we didn’t re-sign Uribe. Crawford is on everyone’s wishlist, but its not going to happen. Do you really want to pay him $100+mil for way to many years? Same goes for Werth. Also, Sabean already said no to Werth, he wants more lefties. Drew also sounds like a no. Towers doesn’t want to trade him at all, and he particularly doesn’t want to trade him to a division rival.
The SS situation kinda depends on what you think of our prospects. Do we get a stop-gap and hope that Crawford (Brandon) is ready in 2012, or do we try and find a long term solution?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
i think Werth said no to us, at least he has in the past…
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 30, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
What?
When would Werth ever have had the chance to say no to us?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Entirely different kind of thing, but I think he was on a radio show somewhere this week and gave a list of about 6 teams or so that he said were “interested in him” and we weren’t there. So that suggests that Sabes isn’t even kicking his tires. I really think the big picture is a Huff/Torres/Ross OF with Belt at 1B, and DeRosa a backup everywhere.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
spurned
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
by oldjacket on Nov 30, 2010 12:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
People don’t REALLY think Jeter is leaving the Yankees, do they? This whole thread is sar-chasm, right?
The 419s are still active because one out of 10,000 thinks, hey, what if this guy really is a prince? But only a really, really small percentage of functional adults fall for the thing.
Grant clearly seems to be responding to that one in 10,000.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Let's think outside the box!
Ya know, Velez can play 2nd….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
In much the same way that I can "play" all intruments needed for a string quartet.
At the same time.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
FUCK NO !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Apologies
That was the first thing that came to mind. After further consideration,
Oh Hell No !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
4 words
Eugenio Velez: Team Physician
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 30, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
The only thing Velez can play is musical chairs… and even then he still loses.
Actually, musical chairs could help his crappy base running. Quick: Get the Giants staff on this new training regimen.
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
Boston Globe, you crazy!
The 25-year-old [Emmanuel] Burriss, who has dealt with a pair of foot fractures, is one of the better players in the Dominican winter league, according to one National League scout. "He was moving well, stealing bases, and making all the plays,’’ said the scout. The Giants are in the market for a shortstop, but he could be an option if they can’t work out a deal for Tampa Bay’s Jason Bartlett or Boston’s Marco Scutaro.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Wow.
One moment you suggest we think outside the box….the next moment the box is ON FIRE!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS!!
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by satyricrash on Nov 30, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
It was a good day
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Nov 30, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Sure, I suggested Velez play short. But Burris? That’s just nuts.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Wait, no you didn't.
Ya know, Velez can play 2nd….
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
By which I mean he's an infielder
Indicating that he can field ground balls THUS short stop ipso facto.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well then it’s a good thing we’re not inside that thing.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
This season is a lost cause
If Manny Burriss is our SS on opening day.
Can’t afford to have two guys hitting like pitchers.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I wonder how much value the best hitting pitchers add to their teams. I would guess it’s non-trivial.
Well, I’m guessing the test case would be either Wes Ferrell or Don Drysdale. Particularly Drysdale in ’65 when they really were a pretty bad offensive game. I saw a Giants/Dodgers game that year where I think Drysdale hit 6th in the order and proceeded to hit a game winning HR.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
/crumples up the note & eats it
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would have to give up belt for reyes? if wheeler + neal could get it done i would be for it, so long as we could sign him to an extension
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Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 30, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions
I’m in the no not want camp on Reyes. Would cost too much and some folks say he’s not exactly a 110% effort guy. Maybe a change of scenery would help? But – too expensive.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wheeler and Neal for one year of $11 million dollars of injury prone Reyes with a skeptical attitude? I like the idea of getting Reyes, but not that much.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
This is the line where I belong
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
the only reason i pro reyes is that i dont think hardy will be available. If he is jump all over that. But if not the other options do nothing for me. Yeah its expensive and we prolly shouldnt throw prospects away in this post championship era but i hate having a black hole of suck in the lineup or in the field. Remember guillen? rent and bartlett dont do it for me. scutoro would be nice but i think the red sox would ask too much.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 30, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
This is where we part ways. I’d rather have Bartlett with Rent as back up than give up Wheeler and Neal for Reyes. That said, I think Scutaro and Hardy or fairly realistic ideas.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I think the Reyes trade rumors last about half a day, and then the Mets said they expected to get “three or four players” in return. That pretty well drove the stake through that story. Of course, there’s a world of difference between what teams want and what they’ll take, but there’s no way they’d trade him for less than Hardy. In fact, they’ll use Hardy’s trade to check their own demands.
I’d guess Hardy is somewhere else in about 50 hours from now.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
/ waits patiently until Thursday afternoon…..crosses fingers
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
OT: for those not following chop's twitter feed. It's been terrific
@scout_6 Comic Sans brings my paper to five pages. Dammit. Now I’m tempted to use that ugly font.
My class starts in 30 min. I need 200 words of bullshit to get to 5 pages without using Comic Sans. #LOLCOLLEGE #LOLFINALS #CRUNCHTIME
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Chop’s twitter feed is usually filled with gems
Also, LOL Comic Sans
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I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 30, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I could poop out 200 words in 10 minutes or less.
Although, good for her for not being on McCC while writing her paper. I still have 15+ pages of mine to write and I’m sitting here like an idiot.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
=(
Dodgers Los Angeles Dodgers
Juan Uribe deal is official…more to come later today with some other news coming momentarily #dodgers @mlb
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
=(
Fuck the Dodgers. The fans better not take up the UUUUUUUUUUUUU-ribe chant. ’Cause its not theirs…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Only because they're f*cktards
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
Fare thee well, Jazz Hands.
Thanks for two good seasons. I look forward to cheering for you in 20 years when they bring back the 2010 WS team to Mays Field.
Sincerely.
PC
P.S. I hope you pull a Jason Schmidt on those Bums.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 30, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Juan Uribe, The Giant
.266/.318/.464, 40 home runs, 4.25 million dollars.
We’ll miss you, Juan.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 30, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Lettuce bookmark this:
Juan Uribe, The Giant : .266/.318/.464, 40 home runs, 4.25 million dollars.
Juan Uribe, The Bum : ._/./._ _ home runs, 21 million dollars.
I’m thinking this will provide some LULZ in a couple of years, no?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
whoo! SBN format fail there….
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Quite Riot?
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 30, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Good. One less competitor for the actually good shortstops.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
There are actually good shortstops available?
Thank God we can stop talking about Hardy Bartlett Scutaro and Tejada then…
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
If it came down to Burriss or Eckstein....
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Maybe “good” was a poor choice of words. Perhaps “acceptable” or “not totally embarrassing” would be better.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I would’ve been OK with a cheap the riot, also I’m not sure that means the Cards are done looking for a shortstop.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
MLBTradeRumours says The Riot will probably play 2nd. Which means everyone’s still in the SS running.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Wait, what happened to Skip Schumaker? Is he a FA?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I don’t think so, I would guess they’ll have him and Theriot compete for the everyday 2B job and use the other one in a utility role.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Ken Rosenthal: Cards see Theriot as SS
http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/9714965623607296
#Cardinals view Theriot as SS. Still could add 2B such as Hudson. Knew Theriot well from #Cubs’ days. Wanted two years of control. #MLB
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Must pay the Poo-Holes!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
yea thats kinda what I figured. I actually kinda like that move for the Cardinals. The Riot isn’t great but it looks like he’s pretty solid defensively at 2B and if he can get back to something close to his career average slash line he’ll be a better bargain than Freddy Sanchez.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Didn't want him anyway
Cardinals Acquire Ryan Theriot
By Tim Dierkes [November 30 at 2:48pm CST]
The Cardinals acquired infielder Ryan Theriot from the Dodgers for righty Blake Hawksworth, according to the Dodgers’ official Twitter feed. Theriot was a non-tender candidate for the Dodgers in the wake of their Juan Uribe signing, but the Cardinals have a need for him. I imagine he’ll mostly play second base in St. Louis.
Yup he’s gone, I didn’t want to actually give up anything for him, just grab him if the Dodgers non-tendered him.
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The Answer
Rich Aurilia
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
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Hey...Richie ! It's been a while
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
He does have a hell of a head of hair
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 30, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a lot of H sounds.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Not if you have a Cockney accent.
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So...
What exactly is the time frame for “on the verge of trading Bartlett”?
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/30/rays-reportedly-on-the-verge-of-trading-jason-bartlett/
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I really hope orlando hudson accepts arbitration but that doesnt look likely. Twins would have to cut hardy then though right?
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
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by operation carrot on Nov 30, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions
This is an actual comment on True Blue LA
The Giants 5 is probably as good as the Dodgers 5.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/11/27/1838705/rotation-status-nl-west
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
They must be talking about 3B.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
5 is SS, right? No… 3B? I always get the numbering system mixed up.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, 6 is SS. 5 is 3B. So Pablo is probably as good as Blake?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
C’mon Howie..6-4-3 double play. I always mix up the OF’s. RF is 9 right, or is it LF ?
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Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Yeah, it was after thinking of the 6-4-3 double play that I got it straightened out.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
It goes from first base around the infield, then back across the outfield left to right. SS is after 3B because.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Pretty sure it starts at the pitcher and then goes anticlockwise from the catcher, skipping the SS, and then zigzagging through the outfield or something.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
because……because……damnit I must know !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
I saw a post there last night where someone went 1-5 of both rotations and said the Bums were better with EACH AND EVERY ONE of their starters.
“Not the Lincecum of a year or two ago, but definitely better than today’s Lincecum.”
Smog is really getting to those folks.
But, whatev – RALLY LOCAL 9!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
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I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
GROSS
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Those look like John Bowker’s arms.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
If it were Bowker’s arms, you could see the hands
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
You know, looking at this picture…it’s ok that his hands aren’t in sight.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
uhhh. yeah you would correct on that one
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
MLBTR
The Giants are serious suitors for Jason Bartlett
BREAKING
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yay?/!
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The Rays need to rebuild their bullpen, and the Giants have enough depth there to move a reliever. San Francisco right-handers Chris Ray and Ramon Ramirez have experience in the American League East, but it’s not clear if the Rays have interest in them.
I wouldn’t think so.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I would gladly give you a Chris Ray on Friday for an Evan Longoria today.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OPS +132 in 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
AH DECLARE!!
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Sabean Checklist (Lead to World Series Victory so cannot be questioned)
Gritty Gamer Veteran: Check
Coming off a terrible year but used to be good: Check
Bay Area Ties: Check
Similar in-house option that costs less: Check
Drinking: Soon to Be Checked
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by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
not really seeing check
number 4.
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Bartlett was TERRIBLE last year
He had a 0.7 WAR. I think RyRohl or Burris could contribute 0.7 WAR
well Bartlett
did put up a 1.5 rWAR. But he was also terrible in 2008.
And for what it’s worth… I don’t think Burriss can put up a 0.7 WAR. RyRohl… I don’t think can play shortstop even at the Bartlett -5 runs/season level. If he could…. maybe.
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Nor do I
Crawford?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 30, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
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