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by Grant Brisbee on Nov 28, 2010 10:35 AM PST
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PrintGive a moment, at-bat, or pitch that was very important to the World Series title run, but probably isn't going to show up in the highlight reel of the 2010 season. Mine...
Pitch #3. Ben Francisco -- a good hitter against lefties -- was up with a runner on third and one out in the sixth inning of NLCS Game Six. Madison Bumgarner's velocity had been down throughout his relief appearance, and this was his second inning of work. He threw two sliders in the dirt to Francisco, and he needed to come in with a fastball on a 2-0 count.
Francisco fouled it straight back with a mean swing. It's probably a pitch that wakes him up at night. It had to be the exact pitch he was looking for. He was just millimeters away from getting the ball in the air and scoring a run. He was probably less than an inch away from hitting it to Scranton. He then took a terrible swing on a 2-1 changeup, and he was called out on a pitch that looked much better on television than it did on Gameday
That 2-0 fastball is the pitch I can't stop replaying in my mind. Maybe the Giants win in a seventh game if Francisco hits a fly ball or better. Heck, maybe the Giants come back and win that game anyways. Something about the situation, though, makes me feel like that's the exact moment we were all sucked into the alternate dimension. If I were a hack, I'd give the at-bat a catchy name, like "The Ben Francisco Treat." But I'm so much better than that.
Your underrated moment, if you will....
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Nobody cares about baseball! It’s all about the Niners!!
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
Did you hear Huff talking about that AB the other day on KNBR? He said MadBum came over to him after Ibanez got to third and said to Huff (and Aubrey imitated the Southern drawl here, but it doesn’t come through as well typing), “Now, don’t worry, I’m gonna strike out this next guy and get the next guy out and we’ll go to the next inning, all right?”
I can’t wait to watch this game when I get the DVD. I mean, hearing it is one thing but actually seeing it is another.
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I can't wait for the DVD
already bought game 4 NLCS and game 5 WS on iTunes.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Is this the DVD people are talking about? I pre-ordered it, but it seems that Amazon is advertising a couple different ones.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 28, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
No
http://www.amazon.com/2010-World-Series-Collectors-Edition/dp/B0042EJDDK/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1
This is the one. That one has a sort of documentary about the WS and some selected highlights. The box set has all five games of the WS in full with the option to use the KNBR audio, as well as NLCS Game 4 and 6 and tons of post-game coverage/locker room interviews/celebration video/etc.
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I can’t wait for mine to come. I avoided listening to most of the replay on KNBR on Friday because I wanted to preserve it for the video.
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Thanks. I will order this one, too!
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 28, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
The one-disc DVD.
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The one-disc DVD, though that video might be included on the box set too, IDK.
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That would be nice, but it probably won’t be. I think they’re put together by different companies.
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IDK
This third DVD (which was plugged by the Giants’ Twitter account) makes the differences even murkier:
http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/95/1557395h.jpg
@sfgiants
2 Exciting DVDs coming soon – Official @MLB 2010 World Series Film+ ’10 @SFGiants Season “The Magic Inside” Documentary – Update soon!
Kuiper narrates the documentary…Rob Schneider narrates the WS Video
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
aaaaaah
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I figure a bit of Kuip is better than none at all. =|
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I’m not sure what I would prefer. On one hand, I think a retrospective of the entire season with a focus on the September run and playoffs would suit me, because I’m not sure if I can relive the torture pitch by pitch. On the other hand, I would love to listen to the KNBR audio for the WS.
So many tough decisions, I feel like Sabes and Bochy.
by Murray, Present on Nov 28, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’m going to have to get all of these.
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Smaller pic (since the link sometimes doesn't work)
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
This has definitely been on my Amazon wish list since it was announced
Can’t wait for Christmas.
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I have an idea
everybody start their copy at a preset time and live(?)blog one of the WS or NLCS games. Wouldn’t that be fun?
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Oh man
Can you imagine a WebEx viewing of the game by the McCoven?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Ooooh I didn’t know it had the KNBR option, my sister will be happy now. I guess I’ll have to get it for her. After all she probably has single handedly bought every kind of hat and shirt since the World Series. I think her goal is to clothe the world.
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yeah, i heard Huff bring that up about 3-4 weeks ago. the first time i heard that it was hilarious – something like “i’m gonna strike this chump out and then we’ll get the next guy and we’re out the inning” Huff toned it down when he was on with FP last week.
by repeat_in_2011 on Nov 28, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand throwing out Ruiz at home is my underrated moment
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how is it overrated?
There's a First for Everything:
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He completely missed the cutoff man with the overthrow. He was lucky Buster was able to play the tricky one-hop and make the tag.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 28, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
In other words, the credit for that play lies completely with very NOT overrated catcher.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
this again?
we’ve been through this before and i asked anyone to provide any proof that he "missed’ the cutoff man – an interview with a player, coach or manager, just anything of substance… no one has, so let me ask again… because i think rowand instincively understood that he had only one chance to get the runner at home and that was by throwing through… so, hah ha hah, he threw through… if you say differently, provide some proof… surely a reporter somewhere must have asked someone that question… roberto clemente bypassed the cutoff man all the time when he sensed he needed to… jose guillen in his short time here showed a penchant for throwing through, particuarly to third base, although i don’t remember him having ANY success… until someone proves differently, i’m inclined to believe that rowand made a veteran decision and it was the right one, thanks to the throw AND the catch and tag by posey…
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by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
By the same token…How do you know he didn’t miss the cutoff man? There’s arguments that go either way, and no one has proof for either of them. Seeing that it worked, some of the Rowand bashing has probably been a little harsh, but its not completely unwarranted either.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
But in a situation where there is this kind of doubt, why not give him the benefit of it?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Point taken. It’s just an easy to nit-pick moment I guess, so its been analyzed all to pieces by now.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
well if it’s been analyzed to bits and you still dont have an answer, the benefit of the doubt goes to Rowand
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
/concedes point
Alright, alright! Still giving more credit to Posey though! ;)
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
the benefit of the doubt on Rowands intent with the throw goes to him.
the credit for the play goes to Posey for making a play that most catchers just squat down and hope they can at least block the ball from going to the screen, let alone short-hop it and get the runner.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
i think we can afford to give Scott a little bit of credit here. i dont really care either way- whether he missed the cutoff or hit the cutoff, it led to the Giants winning the World Series.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
it was a very strong throw that was on target and in time to get the runner. Yes, it short hopped the plate and Buster made a superb play on it, but that shouldn’t take away from the throw. Usually when Scott misses the cutoff guy, he completely airmails the ball and that wasn’t the case there.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
It was still significantly LUCKY. I won’t complain about it too much since it worked, but Rowand should never have overthrown the cut-off man in the first place. The only one who has the arm to have done that purposely is Nate.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Uh yeah, so was the pitch Grant talks about in the main post.
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shrug
I know. I’m not saying it wasn’t a great moment or anything. But as said in an above comment, credit goes more to Posey than to Rowand. Or at least that’s how I figure it.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
A baseball Hall-of-Famer once told us
that any throw from the outfield is supposed to be low enough so that it can be cut off by an infielder. It’s the infielder’s discretion whether to cut it or not. Rowand seriously overthrew anybody except perhaps the late Manute Bol, which is a mistake. You never rainbow a throw and he did. It worked out, and that’s great, but he consistently does it which is stupid. Give him points for trying hard, but deduct some for being dumb.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 28, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’m in this line. It wasn’t a good throw except that it worked out well. I’ll give him credit for the aim being good, but again, short hopping the infielders and missing the cutoff men isn’t a good thing.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 28, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
This. That’s precisely why I said “over-rated” – because the play was just WRONG. Whether it worked, or whatnot is fine… but giving credit to Rowand for being a dunderhead hero is just not where I want to go.
PS – The Giants won the World Series.
Rowands over-throw contributed to the Giants winning the WS
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
if that’s what they did for Rowand, i wonder what they did for Velez who dropped fly balls to cost the team wins
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
cmon man
i am sure the guy and this thread means underrated as it pertains to the giants winning the world series. by your standards, it’s like calling one of the outs wilson got in the ninth overrated because he missed his spot by a couple inches or something.
by housethatbondsbuilt on Nov 28, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
When Nelson Cruz struck out in the ninth inning of Game 5
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I am not sure if it was underrated, but this was one of the huge moments of game 6 of the NLCS. Third inning, 1 out, runners at 1st and 2nd. Right handed Werth v. Left handed Affeldt. Werth flies out.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 28, 2010 10:47 AM PST reply actions
Affeldt's entire two inning stretch in that game was magical.
Runners on first and second, no outs.
Ryan Howard. Jayson Werth. Shane Victorino.
No runner moves.
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Yep
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 28, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
That relief appearance deserves a plaque or something. It was ridiculous. As much as everyone believed in this team, I don’t think anyone thought we were going to get out of that like we did.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Affeldt’s relief appearance literally changed the complexion of game 6. Thank God he stayed in the bullpen to warm up more when he easily could’ve gone out and join the bench clearing fiasco.
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
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But that would make Jonathan Sanchez acne. :(
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THE END.
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Wait… she actually performs them?
Oh, god.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
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3) California Girls are undeniable, probably because there are about 19 million of them.
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Good guess. According to the Census Bureau, there are 18.1 million women in California.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
how quickly they forget
4) You’re hot then you’re cold you’re yes then you’re no you’re up then you’re down etc. repeat ad nauseam
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:31 AM PST up reply actions
Oh no!
Don’t tell me we need to remove Sanchez from the team!
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appropriately rated
but one of my favorite moments of the NLCS.
along with
Ross’s 2nd homerun off Halladay
Pablo’s double
Posey’s long-ass single off of Oswalt in the 9th of game 4
Ryan Howard caught looking
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Those definitely were a couple great ABs by Posey and Pablo.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 28, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently someone was grabbing at me after Ross’s HR #2. I was gloating at CBP
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by say hey nation on Nov 29, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
Wait a second. This has nothing to do with Jon Garland!
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Doesn’t anyone care about lunch any more?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Honest to God, I don’t even know what this blog is about anymore.
Incidentally, I was in Target the other day and passed by a rack of placemats. One of them had an image of a rooster with the word “gallo” scrawled across it, and I thought of you. Someone I’ve never met. If that ain’t a sign of the times, I don’t know what is.
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Thanks for the thought, Letter.
My sig picture is an original water color done for me by a Polish lady named Madzia. I think it’s great. (You can see her autograph in the bottom right if you enlarge the drawing.)
I’ve never met her either.
But . . . epistolary friendships are not a new thing. This is just their newest format. The novelty is that we don’t have to wait a month for the latest missive to arrive. The Giants’ Championship commemorative placemats were in stores on Tuesday morning, Nov. 2.
(Grammar check is trying to tell me that “place mat” cannot be a single word. Unfortunately, my dictionary agrees.)
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Mine
Game 4 of the NLCS. The Giants lead the series 2-1. They come out hot, scoring in the first and the third innings to take a 2-0 lead. But then, the 5th happens. Bumgarner doesn’t survive the inning. The Phillies score four times.
The Giants eke out a run in the bottom of the frame, but Buster Posey strikes out to end the 5th. It’s 4-3. A lot of the energy has been sucked out of the joint.
Then, in the bottom of the 6th, up comes Pat Burrell. He’s been pressing the entire playoffs. Hit like shit, actually. But the Giants need baserunners. And Pat delivers a beautiful at bat.
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by GiantPain on Nov 28, 2010 10:49 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
This
I’ll also rep Burrell’s walk in Game 1 of the WS. Sanchez doubles in Torres and we are up 3-2, but then Cliff Lee strikes out Posey and it’s 2 outs with a man on 2nd. Looks like Lee might get out of it, but Burrell works the count full and draws a walk. Blood is in the water, and then the floodgates open: single by Ross, single by Huff, bye-bye Lee, HR by Uribe, and now it’s 8-2 and the game is basically over. None of that is possible without Pat’s walk.
by sycasey on Nov 28, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This
I admired Burrell’s tenacity: “I may be in a slump, but I’m still gonna mess with them.”
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
And even though Pat the Bat struck out before Renteria’s homer in Game 5, he worked a lot of pitches out of Lee; could be that it helped Renteria’s chances in the next AB. His patient approach didn’t change, even if his swings were way late.
Looking back on that 5th inning in Game 1, though, you can definitely see the course of the game going differently if not for Pat’s walk. Lee was clearly faltering after getting the pitcher out and then allowing consecutive doubles. Posey helped him out by taking strike 3 on a hittable pitch; if he gets Burrell, he’s out of the inning after only allowing one run, and maybe he recovers in the 6th and we don’t see the soft underbelly of the Rangers’ bullpen. Timmy fades in the bottom of the inning and we take a tough 4-3 loss. Instead, Pat extends the inning and Lee leaves pitches up to Ross and Huff, taking himself out of the game. O’Day comes in and coughs up a 3-run homer. Ballgame.
Pat the Bat had the highest BB% on the team this year
13.8%. A consistent breath of fresh air on a team whose 2009 team rate was 6.5%.
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You guys are making a strong case for SIGNING him.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Unless we're bringing in Carl Crawford or Jayson Werth
I want Burrell back. He can be the starting LF until Belt comes up, and then he can ride the bench and be a pinch hit threat with Huff in LF and Brandon at 1B.
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This.
And since I think there’s a better chance that we sign Jeter as our shortstop than there is of us getting Crawford or Werth…my money is on Burrell.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
that definitely should be the plan, and a Huff 2009 deal would be about perfect.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think that if there was any Carl Crawford money sitting in the bank, a good portion of it was spent on Huff. I’m not complaining about that — just saying…
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
money doesn't talk - it swears
this might be a good place to talk about “money in the bank”… anybody read any figures on how much the giants netted from the additional seven playoff games?… i’m just guessing, but if you netted a hundred bucks a fan (tickets, parking, food, souveneirs minus parts and labor), that works out to about thirty million bucks…
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by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I think you’re guessing high. I don’t know what the total was from this year, but they got 20ish mil in 2002 and that WS went 7 games. Since this one only went 5, it probably knocks it down a few million.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I read in Chronicle that the Giants went from about a $4-5M net loss to a $7-10M net profit for the season due to the playoff/world series run. Even before the WS ended, they added 3500 new season ticket holders.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
From the article:
“But the biggest financial opportunity is the way 2010 can be parlayed into 2011,” said Giants’ President Larry Baer.
Baer said the Giants have already taken deposits from 3,500 new season-ticket holders, to add to their current base of 21,000. They are also looking to add new sponsorships and charge more for existing ones.
The Giants can certainly use the cash. They are still paying off ex-slugger Barry Bonds’ contract, to the tune of $5 million a year, and their payroll has shot up nearly $10 million in the past two years, to $98 million – 10th-highest in the major leagues
This tracks with what I’ve read elsewhere: that a team makes it’s money on the playoffs the year after.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
their payroll has shot up nearly $10 million in the past two years, to $98 million – 10th-highest in the major leagues
That’s pretty misleading. Payroll by year per Cots:
2010: $96 million
2009: $82 million
2008: $76 million
2007: $90 million
2006: $90 million
2005: $90 million
It hasn’t really “shot up” in the last 2 years: it shot way DOWN two years ago, and then went back up to about where it was before.
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Didn't the Giants say they were saving money in '08 for this sort of thing?
I feel like they could easily stretch the payroll to 120 mil if they really wanted to.
Also according to Cot’s, they already owe about $86 million for 2011, with six guys up for arbitration.
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breakdown
$18.5 million for Zito
$13.6 million for Rowand
$14 million for Lincecum
$10 million for Huff
$6 million for DeRosa
$6 million for F. Sanchez
$7.333 million for Cain
$4.5 million for Affeldt
$6.5 million for Wilson
Ross, J. Sanchez, Ramirez, Fontenot, Lopez, and Torres are the arbitration eligible guys.
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rough calculation
that looks like about 105 mil to me if they bring back all those arb eligible guys. Throw in 6-8 mil for a shortstop, 3-5 mil for a LF and minimum or very small contracts to fill out the rest of the roster (Bumgarner, Posey, Whiteside, Ishi, Nate, Casilla, 2 or 3 more RP) and you’re pushing 120 mil I think.
Thing A
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he originally said they planned to bring back all the arb guys, but recently said that it looks like they wont all be back. read: Chris Ray and Mike Fontenot.
Wonder what we could get for those guys in a trade.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Its not like going with minimum contract guys instead of those guys is gonna save the team much money. I’d rather see if we can get someone to take on about 3 mil per year of Rowand’s deal and have a bench of Whiteside, DeRosa, Ishi, Nate, and Fonetnot.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
so SF pays $9 of Rowands $12 million? hell no. $6, yeah, but not $9. A player with his limited-AB stats from last year is worth $6 to someone.
He was still good for 12 HRs this year, and that is only around 300 ABs (i think)
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t there a rumor a while ago that the Phillies were thinking of taking him back? I’d go for that.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
eh, the Phils wanted a RH platoon bat, Rowand loves Philly, the Phils have a similar bad contract on their hands with Ibanez.
i dont think it was a substantial rumor
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
what team would essentially sign Rowand to a 2 year 12 million dollar contract right now? I don’t think anyone would and thats what you’d essentially be asking them to do by saying you’d pay 6. I’d pay the 9 per and be happy to have a roster spot opened up on both the 25 man and 40 man roster.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
the market is inflated this offseason, remember. 2/12 is like a DeRosa signing, except Rowand is like 4 years younger.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
yea, but he’s terrible. Seriously, what team might sign him to that deal if he was a FA?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
rowand wasn’t terrible before getting beaned in the face and playing 2010 with a broken face.
ill bet he rebounds to a .275 avg next year with 20 HRs power.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Well in that case you should probably be rooting for him to be the starting LF, but I don’t think that now as he approaches his mid 30s and after 3 straight years of steady decline he’s suddenly gonna have the best year he’s ever had in a Giants uniform
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
well, he doesnt want to sit on the bench again next year, i can guarantee you that. dude is a competitor.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Not wanting to sit on the bench never helped Jamarcus Russell.
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To be fair, though, he was actually just worried about the bench.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
No it didn’t!!!
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
The last time Rowand hit 20 HR with at least a .275 avg
Was 2007.
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he had 20 HR power this year. had he not been benched, he probably hits 20. its just his OBP that sank massively.
he may or may not hit .275 (maybe .250-.260) but the power is still there.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
he’s hit 20 HR or more in a season exactly twice in his career… and they were in his age 26 and age 29 seasons. He may have been on pace to hit close to 20 last year (though I still doubt he wouldve got there) but I think it really says much more that he was hitting so poorly in general that he was benched DESPITE the fact that he was hitting with a little bit of power.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
i think he may have hit 20 last year (def not over 20 though), but i do agree- that he was hitting so poorly for AVG/OBP that his power potential wasnt justifiable.
IIRC his avg before has face was broken wasnt bad, maybe in the .260 range. it went really bad after he came back from the DL
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
he hit 11 HR last year
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…and only played half the season
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Not last year.
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when you start a game, you get a solid 4-5 ABs, and he didnt start more than half the games in 2010 season.
it shows that he played in 105 games, but he didnt start them all. maybe 80 or so
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, I thought last year was in reference to 2009. Never mind.
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
He only played half the season because he sucked ass in the half of the season he played.
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This.
It’s not really a secret.
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Any salary relief on Rowand is a win.
He was not much of a factor for the stretch run and post season, he costs 12M a year, if someone wants to pay 3M of that for his services that’s 3M of salary we dont have to pay.
He’s a good 4th OF, but obviously you don’t pay 4th OF 12 M.
Nate can do most of what Rowand dues for less than a million.
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by Cody_ransom on Nov 29, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
yes but
if some team pays us 3m for rowand, we’re basically paying Nate 9M
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No we are not.
We threw 9 mil in the trash and are paying Nate 400K or whatever he gets. But Paying Nate 400K and throwing away 9 M is better than paying Rowand 12 M and cutting Nate from the 25 man whether that is by DFA or waivers (not sure what he has left in option years).
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by Cody_ransom on Nov 29, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
+ 1,000,000
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I'm not really sure it is
I think Rowand could provide $3M more value than Nate fairly easily.
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Maybe...
But I’d rather keep Nate and spend the $3mil on something better than Rowand. Like a SS. Or keeping our rotation together.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
But Rowand needs to provide 11.5 million more value than Nate. Anything short of that is sunk cost.
Nat has provided 1.1 WAR over 195 games in 09 and 10.
Rowand has produced 3 WAR in 249 games.
Not much difference there. If both were starting 160 games next year I would expect similar WAR, with a higher ceiling for Nate.
In fact, Bill James gives Rowand a .314 wOBA and Nate a .332 wOBA, which doesn’t even consider defense where Nate would probably have an even greater advantage over Rowand.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Probably? Nate’s defense completely owns Rowand’s…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
they don't play the same position
and Nate’s D numbers are unsustainable.
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Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
You're right about sunk cost
which is why Nate only has to be worth $1 less than Rowand for Rowand to be the better option right now.
Rowand has to be worth $x or less more than Nate, where x is the value we get in return, for it to be worth it to trade him.
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
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and Nate's projections
have always been woefully optimistic.
they had the same wRC+ this year, and Rowand has a MUCH better track record.
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I’d let Ramirez go, too.
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really? he throws pretty hard, and appeared to start getting his control harnessed in the 2nd half of last year.
unless you know some saber-stat that I dont, I’d keep him for sure.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’d keep Font before Ramirez
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
no way, not i. relievers, esp ones as good- yes, good- as Casilla are worth a whole lot more than utility IF
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
RamRam is not good. He was VERY lucky with SF until the playoffs began.
I was reading that as Casilla, not Ramirez. my bad
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
wow, i read Ramirez as Casilla like 3 times, lol
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
number of baseball teams that show a profit on their books
0.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Mongo only pawn in game of life
What can we do? We’re just dumb schmuck fans making a wish list for megabucks owners.
In the perfect world, magnates worth multimillions of dollars would entirely regard ballclubs as their toys/hobbies and plow every cent received from operations back into the club — and just settle for the income received from their REAL livelihoods.
In the real world, the lords of baseball sometimes pocket that money.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
well, it is a business, and for many owners, the team is their source of income.
for other owners, the team is just a reason to make tens of millions a year while screwing over a franchise (im looking at you, pirates)
and for other owners, baseball is just something to leverage your husband with (mccourts, marge schott)
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I used to be in this boat, but I forgot about DeRosa. Where would you play Flappy if we have Burrell? TBH I don’t foresee them bringing back Pat (although I think Pat is better LF than DeRosa).
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
As a bench player
You can’t count on DeRosa being a starter, especially after missing a whole season basically.
Starters:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Ross RF
Sandoval 3B
(Shortstop) SS
Bench: Whiteside, Schierholtz, Rowand, DeRosa, Fontenot
RIP Ishikawa.
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well you COULD go with an 11 man pitching staff and keep Ishi. Bochy does seem to favor at least a 7 man bullpen though so I think Nate and Ishi are fighting for the last spot if Burrell (or another LF) comes back and/or Rowand isn’t dealt away.
Thing A
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I'd feel bad for Ishikawa
But he’s a defensive specialist at the position where defense matters least, and it’s the only position he plays.
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he may net good trade value for a team that already has alot of power and just needs good defense at 1B
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
This...
And with the rumors saying that Belt is at least as good defensively…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I’d be ok with him being better. Like Posey and Bumgarner.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Better is always good.
From what I’ve been hearing, if Belt comes through…we’ve got J.T. Snow back ’cept with a better bat…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
i loved JT Snow as a kid. probably because he had a cool name too.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, as a five year old I fell completely in love with him when he came to the Giants, mostly because his last name was Snow…and I really, really loved the snow…Logical, right? Then when I was old enough to actually appreciate his defense and (sometimes) his hitting, I think he stayed my favorite.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I think what I’ll remember most about Snow is whenever his name is announced, almost all the girls would scream. Even my sister was like “holy shit, he’s so fucking hot!”
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
That, I never quite got (and I’m a girl). I mean, he’s not bad looking but…meh.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
GIS for “JT Snow sexy” gave me unexpected results.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
GIS for "howtheyscored sexy" gave me all of the right results.
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Considering we don’t need Rowand by any means while another team could have a good use for him, I wouldn’t be opposed to either paying half of his contract or getting another bad contract in return.
Rowand will not spend all of 2011 on the bench like the 2nd half of 2010.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
I’d be happy to pay more than half his contract if we could get at least a few million back…Right now he’s just taking up room.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
exactly. well, i wouldnt pay, say, $8 of the $12 mil, because he might have hit 20 HRs last year if not benched. it was just his AVG that was taking a massive hit
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
his OBP probably was under .250 in the time that he returned from being hit in the face by the pitch-was benched for good. AVG was probably in the .100s for that month/month-1/2
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
you’re forgetting that there are going to be injuries (and fake injuries)… you’re always going to keep one or two core guys around, even if no one is really injured and you have to fake something and keep them on injured reserve… so your bench can easily accomodate ishikawa and maybe someone else also – i assume no one thinks that guillen might be back, but he could start the season on ir without anyone being suprised (if he’s willing to sign for 3 mil, like huff and uribe did last year)… also, you are assuming that burrell comes back… i don’t know if the giants will want to do that… they aren’t paying derosa 6 mil to be a bench player, regardless of what we may think… they’ll probably make a low but fair offer to burrell, who probably won’t take it, because he made 9 mil last year and had a good year and he’s not going to take 4 or 5 mil to stay, even IF the giants were willing to pay derosa 6 mill to sit on the bench… ishikawa turned into the best pinch hitter in the league last year… teams keep guys like that (think matt stairs) even if they CAN’T play the field and ishikawa CAN … he definitely stays…
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by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Ish is gonna become expendable if Belt truly rises and Huff stays healthy. Plus Pablo can play 1B too
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, NO WAY he comes back. even if there was a slight chance, the HGH investigation shuts that down
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
they aren’t paying derosa 6 mil to be a bench player, regardless of what we may think
Were they paying Barry Zito 18 mil to not make the playoff roster at all? Renteria made 9 mil last year and sat the bench a whole lot. Rowand made 12 mil and sat the bench even more than that. Counting on a guy who hasn’t played much baseball at all in a year and a half to be your starting LF would be a bigger mistake.
Thing A
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yep, i agree. sign Pat and go into spring expecting nothing from DeRosa. Anything from him is a bonus
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
I just don’t know what use another team could have for him.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Javier Vazquez to Marlins on one year deal
I think that will end up being a very good move for them.
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Wow. A steal.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
1 year, 6-7 million.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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Not bad
If that’s what they used the $ they’re saving on Uggla on, I guess that trade makes a little more sense.
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If he bounces back at all, he’ll be a huge steal and I feel like Florida is a perfect fit for him.
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Josh Johnson/Javier Vazquez/Anibal Sanchez is a pretty nice one-two-three punch, if Vazquez has one of his patented non-Yankees years.
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and Volstad isn’t chopped liver either. They have tremendous depth and talent, somewhat similar to ours.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
hopefully, Johnson will come back to form and the shoulder injury won’t linger.
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2010 Giants: World Series Champs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
That rotation is going to be very good next year. The NL East will certainly be an interesting race.
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LOL Mets and Nationals pitching staffs that don’t have 3 aces or 5 very good starters.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
looks like the best pitching in baseball will be in the NL West next year.
Dodgers have 5 solid, Giants best rotation, Padres will find weeds to turn into crazy good pitchers, Arizona even has 3 good starters. That leaves Rockies, who have Ubaldo and that’s about it if DeLaRosa doesn’t return.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think its close
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Johnson, Vazquez, Sanchez, Nolasco, Santana, Strasburg, Zimmerman, Hudson, Hanson… that stacks up pretty well with Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner, Kershaw, Billingsly, Kuroda, Latos, Stauffer, Jimenez, Kennedy, and Hudson.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
4 out of 5 ain't bad
you forgot zito…
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by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
who is probably one of the best 5th starters in baseball
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That metaphor got away from me.
to be precise
he was the 90th best starter in MLB by FIP (min 90 IP). Below average, sure, but as 5th starters go, you could do a LOT worse
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Fun fact
Not counting John Smoltz, Pedro Martinez, Bartolo Colon and Brandon Webb (dudes who last pitched in 2009), there are only 10 active CYA pitchers…
Barry Zito
Johan Santana
Chris Carpenter
Roy Halladay
Jake Peavy
CC Sabathia
Cliff Lee
Tim Lincecum
Zack Greinke
Felix Hernandez
…and two of the are in the Giants rotation.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Pedro, RJ and Clemens kind of won a lot of those awards
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by Cody_ransom on Nov 29, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Also, that list has a lot of repeat offenders:
Santana, Halladay and Lincecum have all won twice.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
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by say hey nation on Nov 29, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
hmmm
there’s a Vazquez on that list. Mayhaps premature.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:39 AM PST up reply actions
Rockies
I really liked Jeff Francis before he got hurt. I wonder what his chances of coming all the way back are.
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juan UUUUUUUURRRRRRREEEEEEEEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
last series of the year in LA, classic
and he hit the dodger fan during batting practice, lol, youtubeness
Trade Sabean...
HEADS UP! HEADS UUUUPPP!!!
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 28, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Best part
is that his friends kinda do jazz hands right after he gets hit.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I love that.
The guy a couple rows in front of him (might be his older brother) doesn’t even look back as he raises his arms . . . for some reason.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Two at-bats from Edgar Renteria...
On Opening Day, the two-run shot to tie the game and send into extras against the Braves.
Then on August 1st against the Dodgers, Renteria hits a triple to get two runs for Cain, and thats all he needed to win the game.
While these were big at-bats, and may or may not be highlight reel moments, they proved that Renteria could still come up in the big situations every once in awhile, which happened to happen during the World Series.
Foreshadowing if you will.
Oh, and I was at both of those games.
by BeatLA55 on Nov 28, 2010 11:13 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
SO THAT’S WHY THEY WANT HIM!!
He’s got 3 WAR for them, and will cost them 3 less losses from hits if he was with SF. 6 WAR player, haha
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
The at bats by Travis and Freddy against Craig Kimbrel in the 9th inning of game 3 in ATL of the NLDS.
If either one makes an out, we lose that game. Freddy looked awful on the first 2 pitches and then battled for a single that led to Huff’s tying single and Posey’s ball to Brooks Conrad that gave us the game.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 11:17 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
Absolutely!!
Without those two at-bats we might never get to Ben Francisco and all that came after.
Also the Uribe HR to complete the 5-4 comback against the Dodgers. Give credit too in that game to Posey (7th-inning HR cuts it to 4-1) Renteria (8th-inning HR cuts it to 4-2) Burrell (8th inning HR cuts it to 4-3 and forces the Dodgers to bring in Kuo, making him and his fragile left elbow unavailable to close) and Ross (9th-inning, 1-out infield single {he might well have been out - tooo close to call even with the benefit of frame-by-frame viewing} preceeded Uribe’s HR)
On the Dodger post-game show after that game, Steve Lyon – in a precient moment – said, “I know Dodgers fans don’t want to hear this, but this is the type of win that can launch a team into the postseason.”
by betterthanbochy on Nov 28, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
some guys hit better with 2 strikes. Freddy is not one of them. Great piece of hitting there
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
For example
In his career, with 2 strikes, Barry Bonds hit just .210/.353/.426.
And that is RIDICULOUSLY high.
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Check out Bonds on 3-1 counts:
.399/.762/.882
OPS: 1.644
WWRWD?
by SF Pete on Nov 28, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
didnt he have an entire season over 1.644 OPS? 2001 or 2002 was a 1.800+ OPS IIRC.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
haha no
career high OPS was 1.422 in 2004
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i was looking at a stat line the other day that had him at a 1.9xx im gonna look it up hang on
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
oh, his 2002 WS line. i was thinking 1.900+ was really freakin high, lol
D’OH
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Bonds hit .276/.480/.565 in 2007.
Barry Bonds could not find a contract in 2008.
Jeff Francouer is still in the major leagues.
There is no justice.
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Jeff Francouer is nice to reporters, always calls his mother on her birthday, and tips 25% under all circumstances.
Barry Bonds once held an opposing player’s wife’s hand.
In a jar of acid.
At a party.
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by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 28, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair, it was glycolic acid and it was watered down. She had been complaining about rough skin all night, and he just happened to have a helpful treatment on hand. The media always leaves those parts out.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
but the real question- is there a clear for that too?
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
I was reading an article by Gwen Knapp in the ‘02 WS book about Bonds, and she said that Bonds’ legacy would be tainted if he didn’t leave baseball when he got old and busted. Sigh.
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Despite what his agent says, I hear he hasn’t retired.
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He can be our go to pinch-hitter (or DH for inter-league). It would be awesome. Sure, the media would crucify us, but who cares?
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If you can find a player with at least, oh, 200 PAs
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by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 28, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
i meant it like some guys hit better than others with 2 strikes. and freddy is not one of them.
i dont think anyone actually hits better with 2 strikes than with 0-1 strikes. except maybe blackheart eckstein.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Eckstein career OPS: .701
Eckstein career OPS w/ 2 strikes: .585
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Eckstein would have been my best guess. I’m not gonna dig thru every single player of all time, but I can find someone who hits better with 2 strikes than someone else with 0-1 strikes. but not someone who actually hits better with 2 than 0-1
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, yes!
Chris Russo, in his Barbieri interview on 11/3, said Freddy’s hit along with Uribe’s 9th inning HR off Broxton were the two “Hits of the Year” for the Giants.
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Ah. Like Larry David with the Siegfried Idyll in Curb Your Enthusiasm. I like it.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
My Top 3
- 9th inning, Game 3, NLDS: After the horror that was Eric Hinske’s go-ahead HR off Romo in the bottom of the 8th, I was fully prepared for a 1-2-3 9th and the Giants to go down 2-1 in the series (basically reliving the first 3 games of both the 2000 and 2003 NLDS losses). And when I say “prepared”, I mean I was getting ready to break shit. But then Travis Ishikawa drew a huge BB, setting up Sanchez, Huff and
Posey’sConrad’s heroics
- 6th inning, Game 4, NLCS: Pablo’s go-ahead 2-run double off Chad Durbin is called foul, and he follows that with maybe his worst swing of the season (which is saying something) at a pitch in the dirt to go down in the count 0-2. And when he eventually gets the high-fastball everybody knew was coming — and everyone knew he couldn’t lay off — he shortens his swing (as he had been unable to do all year) and slaps it into left-center for the go-ahead 2-run double he was deprived of earlier. When that happened, I felt to me as if something inevitable was happening.
- 8th inning, Game 6, NLCS: In Game 5, the Giants lined out at least three times with men on base, and some of the old “cursed”-type feelings started circling in my head. Those feelings became amplified after Bochy used Lincecum on 1 day’s rest (something that scared the absolute shit out of me) and he was only able to retire one batter, leaving with two on, one out in the eighth. But when Ruiz lined out to Huff, who doubled Rectumface off 2nd, it seemed the Baseball Gods were finally understanding the concept of karma.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 28, 2010 11:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I really think Game 4 was a pivotal game in the post-season. We kinda stole that one, and Pablo’s double was a big part of it.
Keeping it so that we wouldn’t go back to Philadelphia behind in the series was a huge relief to me.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 28, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Atlanta, Game 3 of the NLDS. One out in the top of the 9th with the Giants trailing 1-2. Craig Kimbrel vs Travis Ishikawa, in to pinch hit for Sergio Romo.
This was the AB that set up that winning rally. I loved Freddy’s AB as well, but he wouldn’t have been at the plate without Ishi’s walk. Most underrated moment of the postseason for me.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 28, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
My underrated moment
Huff hitting his first post-season RBI in Game 3 of the NLDS, tying the game at 2-2.
Huff simply looked atrocious the past two games, with 3 Ks in Game 2. It looked like he was feeling the pressure of the playoffs and was pressing.
This hit ties the game and sets up the Conrad mega-error.
aww they've edited the TBS clip
so you can’t hear Timmy swearing anymore
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Late in the regular season . . .
Sanchez makes a back-to-the-plate catch on a Texas Leaguer for the last out. It portends the failure of Conrad weeks later to do the same.
Can’t find video. Didn’t look.
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions
it is hard to find video when you dont look, lol
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
I blame modern technology for my sloth.
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Tim Flannery is apparently thinking about renaming his band “The Lunatic Fringe”.
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Oh my
I would definitely attend a The Lunatic Fringe concert.
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- The bunts in game 2 of the NLDS that knocked out Bill Wagner forever.
- Bobby Cox’s decision not to put in a defensive replacement for Brooks Conrad in the 9th inning of game 3, NLDS.
- Bobby Cox’s decision to leave Lowe in the game for one more hitter in game 4, NLDS,
- Charlie Manuel’s decision to pitch Oswalt in relief in game 4, NLCS.
- Ron Washington’s decision to take out Darren O’Day and bring in Derek Holland in game 2, WS
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions
One more
Huff taking second on Rectum Face’s throw to home in Game 6. If he hadn’t, he wouldn’t have scored on Posey’s hustle play/error by Polanco.
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Oooh, this is a good one. Totally forgot about that.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 28, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Mine is another Ben Francisco moment. Game 4 of the NLCS. Romo versus Francisco after Werth tied it late in the game. Romo struck him out on 3 pitches (if I’m remembering that correctly)
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 28, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions
kinda the opposite, but
Given his eventual World Series heroics, this at-bat from Edgar Renteria has definitely stuck out in my memory:
I pretty much wanted to kill him (note the file name).
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Ugh that AB.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 28, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
THROW THE BAT AT THE BALL FOR HITZ!!
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
i had the misfortune to be at that game, I ranted to my friends in the car about edgar the whole way home, and how useless he is.
Boy how wrong was I
by panda revival on Nov 28, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Just because he later had one of the greatest at-bats in Giants history...
doesn’t mean that this one wasn’t the ugliest.
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May I present, the greatest AB in Giants history.
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After watching the video of the benches clearing in Philadelphia...
its crazy to think that if the ball had not bounced up for Utley to grab it and throw it back to Sanchez, the benches may not have cleared, leaving less time for Affeldt to warm up…
by BrianIsAwesome on Nov 28, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions
I’m actually watching that game right now!
Tied 2-2 in the top of the 4th at the moment. Still makes me nervous even though I know the ending.
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And now I’m to the point where Tim McCarver says that part of the batters box is in fair territory.
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and props to Mark Gardner for keeping Affeldt warming up instead of running to field for the potential fight.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 28, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Affeldt probably had no intentions of going out there
The last time Affeldt got involved in an on-field brawl it didnt end so well for him. See Farnsworth, Kyle.
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Game 4, NLCS. Top of the 6th inning.
After the Phillies had scored 4 in the 5th to take the lead (and the Giants had scored to answer in the bottom of the inning), Santiago Casilla throws a shutdown inning to keep the momentum going. Which led to Pablo hitting the infamous double in the bottom of the 6th.
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Of course, it’s Casilla who gave the Phillies the lead in the 5th with a double to Polanco and a wild pitch to Rollins…
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Uh, but
You’re forgetting that it was also Casilla who let in 3 of those 4 runs.
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Casilla had a great season and all, but it seems like a stretch to praise a guy for not blowing the game twice, no?
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Nah, I think the scoreless inning was an underrated moment too. I remember we were all screaming at Bochy for leaving Casilla in for another inning and he went out there and did a nice job in his second inning of work. We’re not talking about omg legendary amazing moments, we’re talking about underrated moments.
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Yeah, I was pissed too.
Even in the 6th, Casilla got pretty lucky. Ben Fransico came about 3 feet away from scoring yet another run off Casilla in the 6th – he hit what I think was the first pitch of the inning off the end of his bat but still got it to the warning track, right in front of the wall. Then he legitimately shut down Ruiz and Brown.
It was a memorable inning, sure, but it was as much in spite of Casilla as it was because of him.
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Well, if you’re really that invested in not giving him any credit, that’s your prerogative I guess.
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I'm sorry that comes off a bit harsh
What I mean to say is, I don’t see anything wrong with saying (in a thread about UNDERRATED moments), “Yeah Casilla screwed up in his first inning of work, but him keeping the score at 4-3 was key to the Giants winning the game.”
And I don’t think saying “he gave up a warning track fly ball!” is at all fair. Warning track fly balls happen all the time and if they turn into outs, I don’t see any reason to hold them against the pitcher. That warning track fly ball COULD have been a HR, but it wasn’t.
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I’m not really invested in anything. That’s just what happened; he pitched really poorly for 2/3 of an inning (double, IBB, HBP, Wild Pitch, Strike Out, deep fly out), and then he pitched very well for 2/3 (strike out, weak ground out). The sixth inning certainly went a lot better than I expected, but, you know, he blew the lead in the 5th and then he almost blew it again in the 6th, facing the bottom third of the order (admittedly a very good bottom third). If I’m Santiago Casilla, it’s not an outing that’s going on my highlight reel.
If I were to pick out an underrated moment to highlight Casilla, I’d pick game 4 of the NLDS. The Giants have JUST taken a 1-run lead following a 2-run 7th. Casilla gave them 1 2/3 good innings, only allowing a ground ball hit to Brian McCann. That was a huge outing in a series clincher.
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Did you miss that Grant’s original moment was a pretty bad pitch that could have easily been crushed but wasn’t? That’s the point of this thread – underrated moments where things maybe could have gone horribly wrong but didn’t. Or underrated moments that led to the Giants winning.
I don’t see why Casilla’s second inning of work doesn’t qualify for either of those.
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I saw it, yeah. But I’m responding to this comment:
Game 4, NLCS. Top of the 6th inning.
After the Phillies had scored 4 in the 5th to take the lead (and the Giants had scored to answer in the bottom of the inning), Santiago Casilla throws a shutdown inning to keep the momentum going. Which led to Pablo hitting the infamous double in the bottom of the 6th.
If we’re talking about memorable/underrated moments, I think that misses the point. What’s memorable about the moment is what’s left out: that it was Casilla who blew the lead in the first place, that, as you pointed out, we were all howling for Bochy’s blood for leaving Casilla in, that for a second it looked like he’d given up a right-down-the-middle gopher ball to Francisco, but it stayed in the park, and then it was like a light switch went off and boom, Ruiz strikes out and Brown weakly grounds out. The original comment seems to be, “Casilla had a great outing which helped our momentum,” but that’s a pretty misleading account and leaves out pretty much all the details that made the moment noteworthy in the first place. The narrative here isn’t, “We tied it up and Casilla shut ’em down,” it’s, “Holy shit, I want to kill Casilla! No, wait, he can live another day.”
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I think you’re being kind of pedantic and that cloudydays wasn’t trying to mislead people with pro-Casilla bias, he was just pointing out that he felt like that one inning was an underrated moment.
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It’s certainly not my intent to be pedantic, but having read approximately ten million student papers in the last few days, it’s entirely possible that I’ve gotten myself into overly critical you-need-more-detail-here mode in this whole exchange; if so, that’s obviously inappropriate, being as how cloudydays ain’t one of my students.
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Ha
I can certainly sympathize.
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one
i’ve got two, and i think one of them is appropriate here, because it also involves the failings of casilla (although one COULD point to his first inning of work and call him “successful”)… it’s game 162, without which, maybe no playoff games are ever played (were they going to start lincecum on three days rest in san diego? – i think so and no guarantee how THAT would have gone)…
in his second inning of work, with the giants up 2-0, casilla gets two outs, then melts down gives up a single and then a nine pitch at bat results in an easy ground bll right back to him and he boots it… two on, two out and tejada coming up and i’m SCREAMING at the television, “get him OUT of there” and bochy does… ramirez comes in for ANOTHER nine pitch at bat (pretty rare to see consecutive nine pitch at bats) and strikes out tejada… has to be the biggest out HE ever got and maybe that out that made everything else possible…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Casillas first inning, coming in with 2 on and no outs- and getting out of it- makes me say that I cannot believe you guys are sitting here talking about the failings of Casilla.
We maybe dont make the playoffs if he doesn’t pull a jeremy affeldt (which maybe would never even have happened) and get out of a 2 on, no out situation.
and vs the Pads, that is far more scarier than against the Phils, for some reason
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
I've screamed plenty at my TV, wishy,
but I watch 90% of games alone, and what is said in my living room stays in my living room. Few of the Giants have escaped my wrath.
Also, I wish you guys wouldn’t be so fucking pedantic.
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I wish you guys wouldn’t be so fucking pedantic.
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not underrated, I’m sure, and it will be remembered by many for a long time, but to my mind it sticks out as the single most important at bat of the entire post-season: Uribe’s go-ahead home run in game 6 of the NLCS.
Watching the body language of the team throughout that inning and the inning before, it seemed clear that these guys didn’t believe they could score another run. And more than that, it seemed clear that they didn’t think they could go to game seven and win. The whole team looked completely hopeless in the dugout. It was frightening, and really kind of sad.
And then Uribe hit the home run. And there wasn’t really a celebration. There was just this sort of release. After Uribe got back to the dugout, the team just looked relieved. I remember seeing no fewer than three players individually go up to Juan in the middle of the inning and embrace him. Not hugs. Long, grateful, emotional embraces.
It was something. I don’t think the team even goes to the World Series if not for that home run. I think it would have been a very quiet game seven loss.
Totally unsubstantiable opinions, but that’s just the feeling I get seeing the way the team reacted to that one hit.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I loved Uribe throwing up the Jazz Hands. He was the only person in the park who was sure that ball was going out.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
quick screencap
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 28, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, I’ve seen him jazz hands on pretty routine fly balls before too.
But that’s why I fucking love the guy.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
“Routine fly” is what I thought.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
So did Jason Werth amirite
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
And back...
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
And dropped the ball...
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Looking back through my scorebook from this season
This game really stands out. Maybe it’s the additional inning columns drawn on the weathered paper (it was raining that day) but anyway… The Giants had come back to force extra innings with a run in the 7th and one more in the 8th, then came the Padres half of the 11th. With one out, Adrian Gonzalez singled to center off Santiago Casilla. Casilla then threw two wild pitches in a walk to Ludwick. Runners on the corners, one out, Giants in danger of falling 4.5 games back…
Chase Headley strikes out swinging, Tony Gwynn Jr lines out to center, inning over.
Giants win it in the bottom of the 11th.
2.5 back.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
I was at that game!
EPIC.
To pick another underrated moment from that game, Buster hustles to second on what should have been a single and then hustles home, despite having played 11 pretty tough innings at catcher.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Whoo!
This was also the game where Buster, after sliding home the winning run, popped up and did a little twirl at home.
AKA the first time I can remember Buster showing emotion.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Never mind about the weathered paper being from the rain, it was sunny that day. Not really sure how those two pages got wet while the others around them are dry.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
I was following that game on my phone while out with friends
and started listening on the bus right around the 7th or 8th and was fighting so hard not to cheer on the bus.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
best. year. ever.
see ya
i wish i’d read this before i added a casilla moment just above… this is actually the game i referenced in the birthday thread (only the pre-game, where my buddy finally got to meet dave winfield) but i don’t remember any rain – we had to leave at 3pm but were outside much of the rest of the day and i don’t think it rained…
this really makes me think, because knowing that casilla was melting down and righted himself against the padres earlier in the season (from the box score, it looks like we still had a couple of pitchers left, including ramirez, so bochy wasn’t really forced to stay with him) makes me wonder why bochy didn’t stay with casilla game 162… i mean, thank goodness he didn’t, but same team, same kind of meltdown situation, probably was a close call in bochy’s mind…
btw, casilla is arbitration eligible… what do you think he will ask for?… his agent may well be telling him that he could be a big money closer for another team…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Pablo Sandoval draws a walk in Game 2 of the NLCS
Laying off some pretty close pitches
The Giants lost that game 6-1, so it certainly wasn’t important, but whenever Pablo does something like that (and against the Phils’ best reliever, no less), I feel like maybe he can develop some patience and become an multifaceted offensive force for the ages.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
The moment that sticks out to me is Aubrey Huff’s bunt. Partly because the pompous duderinos on the tv were all “This is NOT the guy you want up in bunt situation. Blah fap blah blah fap fap.” or something to that effect. And then DOINK!
by Merope on Nov 28, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I find that memorable/underrated not because I felt like it helped the Giants win or anything, but because of the utter WTF of it. Aubrey Huff with his first bunt EVER in a clinching game of the World Series?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
totally thought he was going to beat it out too.
by BrianIsAwesome on Nov 28, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well said.
And later he’s said something like “I’ve always done decently with it in batting practice…”
But that wasn’t batting practice! That was the World Series! WTF!? =D
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
did anyone happen to hear him on the radio
… or maybe it was on CSN a few days ago. He said he’s never bunted for a sacrifice before, but he HAS bunted for a hit a couple times. I’d love to see some video of that.
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I find it memorable because it was a really, really good bunt.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
The top of the 9th in Game 3 of the NLDS certainly isn't overlooked
But a huge moment within it that probably is: Travis Ishikawa’s walk. Cody Ross had already weakly popped out on the infield on two pitches, and after the walk, Andres Torres got called out on a BS strike 3. Ishikawa fell behind 1-2, and it looked like he was going to be overmatched, but then took three straight low pitches to draw the walk.
It’s the Huff single and the Posey error that made the highlight reels, but without Ishikawa’s two strike strike zone judgment, none of that’s possible. It’s an easy 1-2-3 inning for the Braves’ young, dominant bullpen.
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by jcb9 on Nov 28, 2010 1:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
My most underrated was Burrell's strikeout before the HR in game 5...
Lee was rattled with runners on 2nd and 3rd. Burrell called a time out a few times right when Lee was about to pitch. i think that had an effect on the first two pitches thrown to Rentaria. Not even close to the strike zone, forcing him to throw a strike on the third pitch
Except that it didn’t REALLY force Lee to throw a strike. The world will always wonder why he didn’t just walk Renteria to pitch to Rowand.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Because he “doesn’t walk people”. Molina wanted him to. In fact, I’m pretty sure Molina thought he was going to after the first 2 pitches…
On another note, I believe that was an 11 pitch at bat. And Renteria said later that it helped him know what to look for.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
He “doesn’t walk people” by accident, but why not walk Renteria on purpose?
Surely, you’re not arguing that because Lee doesn’t walk people by accident, he would refuse to walk Renteria on purpose.
That’s almost like arguing that he would refuse to walk Barry Bonds on purpose.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I’m saying that he didn’t WANT to walk Renteria on purpose. I don’t have a link for it, but there was an interview after the game sometime with him and Bengie. Bengie thought they were going to pitch around Renteria and get to Rowand. Lee said something along the lines of “I don’t pitch around people, its not what I do.”
Frankly, I think that was stupid of him. And a bit arrogant. Though I suppose Renteria isn’t quite as scary as Barry Bonds =D.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I understand what you’re saying, and I also understand Lee saying that he doesn’t “pitch around” people.
But flat-out WALKING someone on purpose isn’t “pitching around” him, and I don’t understand why he didn’t flat-out WALK Renteria — or, at any rate, why didn’t he flat-out walk him after the count went to 2-0?
Obviously, Renteria isn’t Barry Bonds and my invocation of Bonds was just sort of a reducto ad absurdum argument.
But Renteria is still a lot more dangerous than Rowand is. That’s not hindsight either — I remember being fairly certain at the time that Lee wasn’t going to allow Renteria to beat him, especially after falling behind him 2-0.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Reducto ad abusrdum? I have no idea if that’s a real phrase or not…but I like it. In any case, yeah, I knew that was an…exaggeration…or whatever g.
Anyhow, I didn’t get it at the time either and certainly don’t get it now. He and Timmy had both been pitching great games up to that point…so maybe he just didn’t feel the need to? I dunno.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
whose decsion should that be? - frank wouldn't just leave it to chance
that SHOULD be the manager’s call and if he wants the guy walked, he goes out the mound (or sends his pitching coach)… had someone already been out once in the inning?… i guess benji could have gone to the mound and signalled that he wanted the manager to come out and make the decision if benji really wanted to put him on – and frankly, i’m starting to think that cliff lee is a jerk because he should have been saying to benji, “you played with these guys – which one should we go after?” but maybe benji just wasn’t as assertive as he should have been…
speaking of underrated moments, this causes me to remember one – the time that mattingly was managing the dodgers and bochy outfoxed him and got the umps to tell him that he had to remove his closer because technically, he had made two trips to the mound… one of bochy’s better moments…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
I heard somewhere that Bochy actually pulled a fast one on Mattingly and the umpires — and that the rule doesn’t really work that way.
Back to Lee vs. Renteria — it’s astounding that between Lee, Molina, and Ron Washington, no one figured out the obvious or no one asserted himself to carry out the obvius.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Torres had already been the announced hitter, so technically Broxton would have had to pitch to him, however, the umpires took Broxton out immediately and Sherrill had to pitch to Torres.
Had the Dodgers played the remainder of the game under protest, they would have had to replay the 9th inning (next day, or whatever) with Torres up and the bases loaded, one out, Dodgers winning 5-4.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
and Broxton pitching
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
He had pitched 6 of the previous 7 days or something insane like that.
I wouldn’t have been surprised if he blew it again.
This is the one that keeps sticking in my mind.
Jeeze there were so many underrated moments that could be dug up..throughout the season I’ve seen Burrell’s Game 5 at bat before Rentorias HR mentioned more than once and this is the one I can’t get out of my mind. sure Pat wasn’t hitting the ball during the series, but he wasn’t going down 1-2-3 ala Sandoval. All game, hell all serires long Burrell’s at bats were designed to suck the life out of the pitcher. he took them all deep into the count. And his well timed “timeouts” are done to throw off the pitchers rhythm.. If you get up three or four times a game and you can run 10 or so pitches off the pitcher, that’s one player that has taken up a third of his pitch count. That is huge when there is a soft bullben. This at bat was the culmination of patient batting by one player throughout the series. Oh I love watching the cumulative effect of patient batting on a pitcher that doesn’t like to “pitch around” batters. I really think Renteria benefited from Burrell’s at bat in a way that is not immediately appreciated.. The Giants built themselves a great dessert, Burrell ladled on the whip cream nice and slow and Renteria put the cherry on top! I hope someone posts that GameDay at bat here.
by MGuzzy on Nov 28, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I really thought Burrell was finally going to come through with a big hit during that long at-bat. He’d hit the ball hard in his first AB and then took Lee very deep into the count there — it looked like maybe he was out of his slump, but he still struck out anyway.
However, it’s true that working deep counts has value in and of itself, and Burrell does that.
this is why i want Burrell back. i think he had a very positive effect on the team in terms of taking pitches and being more patient
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
But with Huff signed, Belt on the way, and Cody Ross under team control for next year, it gets somewhat crowded around the1B and corner outfield slots if Burrell returns, assuming that everyone stays healthy. And Burrell is the least versatile and the most defensively vulnerable of all of them.
Of course, Belt isn’t going to start the year with the Giants, but what if he’s having a Posey-like first half with Fresno and they HAVE to call him up? It’s a good problem to have obviously. I guess that I wouldn’t mind seeing Burrell return for the first half of the season anyway, with the Giants keeping their options open
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
that’s exactly what I’m thinking. best to be caught with good problems than with our pants down and no solid starting LF for Opening Day.
Burrell will always be a presence, whether he’s playing that day or not. Has stated his desire to return to SF in 2011, even if it is a limited role.
No prospect is a sure thing. Don’t assume that Belt will force Pat off the field. If it happens, great, but don’t clear roster spots for unproven players.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
But what if Belt doesn’t have a great 1st half of the season? Even if he does there should be plenty of ways to get him into the lineup. Huff and Burrell will both be in their mid 30s and may need a few more days off than they received this year and Ross doesn’t hit righties very well. This is a reallong shot and I’m probably gonna have to duck after bringing this up, buuuuuut… Huff did also mention his ability to play 3B after he re-signed last week. It wouldn’t be my first choice but if Pablo is still struggling, DeRosa is still all flappy, Uribe is basically the only real option on the roster at SS, and Belt, Burrell, Huff and Ross are all playing well, I might consider experimenting a bit there.
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he'll huff and he'll puff and he'll knock your ass down
i’m sure it was earlier in his career, but huff has actually played about 2/3 as many games at third as at first… and more at third than in left and right combined…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
His UZR/150 at 3B isn’t THAT bad, though it does indicate he’s a lot better there when he gets more consistent playing time there. He hasn’t played at all since ‘08, but I don’t think it would be much worse than putting him in RF.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Yeah, I’d forgotten about DeRosa. It might get pretty crowded at the corners.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
For that matter, there are those who favor putting Posey at SS, the position that he played originally. Maybe the Giants could re-acquire Molina and bring ALL of the World Series rings home ;o)
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 29, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions
Game 3 NLCS
I was thinking about how there wasn’t really a defining moment in that game, because Matt Cain just slowly constricted the life out of the Phillies offense.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Mediocre, sub-.500 pitcher. Total bust. DFA the bum now.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I wonder if the Brewers will take him for Fielder
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
We’ll be lucky if we can trade him for Hardy.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Cain 4 Ankiel
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Cain for a Sack of balls
am I doing this right?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
NEVER!!
Cain 4 ballsack
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
i know you are but what am i?
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
no one
was even chanting his name as I was heading down the Escher staircase after that game. Couldn’t believe it.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Matt Cain is like oxygen — absolutely vital, but mostly taken for granted.
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 28, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think Matt Cain is more like water. When it rains people will complain about how much it sucks and how they want to trade it for sunshine.
Kruk: "and the Giants, the San Francisco Giants…"
Kuip: "They got one…"
Kruk: "World Champs."
- November 1, 2010
like… h20, you say?
that meme is already taken
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Now you’re saying that Matt Cain is similar to a punk band that I don’t really like?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
nah. Matt likes waffles
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Water
THIRD ELEMENT AT BEST!
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 28, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
LOL Helenic Physics fail
“The Greek classical elements (Earth, Water, Air, Fire, and Aether) date from pre-Socratic times and persisted throughout the Middle Ages and into the Renaissance, deeply influencing European thought and culture.”
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by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 28, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This turned into a surprisingly serious conversation.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm
I just assumed it was an avatar thing.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LOL DnD fail
your water elemental is jealous.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:45 AM PST up reply actions
Earth
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Luminiferous ether
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Wingardium Leviosa
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 28, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
It’s levi-OH-sa, not levio-SAH.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
How . . .
do you know Graham said it wrongly?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 29, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Because his feather didn’t float or anything.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
That’s really the numbers-crunching “experts” — who aren’t necessarily Giants fans — that talk about trading Matt Cain. I don’t think too many Giants fans think that way.
Jonathan Sanchez is the name that gets mentioned most often in Giants circles — at least, that’s my impression.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Cain trade discussions have happened, oh, once or twice here over the years…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don't know that number crunchers are more apt to rosterbate Cain away
seemed like every semi-literate fanpost for a while was trading him for some expensive slugger or another.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I think
the defining moment there, and maybe mine period: Ryan Howard leading off the second with a long, long, long fly ball…into Rowand’s mitt. Gumby shoulders, and not for the only time in the postseason. Cf. Utley, Chase and Kinsler, Ian.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I think for me it was Nate in the 9th holding Rollins to a single, setting up the Ibanez GIDP to end the game.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
That was a great play, more forgotten because of so many great plays in all kinds of situations.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, Matt Cain games are like that. Nothing flashy happens…but suddenly you’re in the 7th inning with 2 hits and no runs, or something like that.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
by Ceora on Nov 28, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Game 4 NLDS 7th
Lowe walks Pat the bat after telling Cox he wanted to pitch to him, all down hill from there.
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
and heres the link
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12809273
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Nov 28, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
I think that the Kinsler double was the most OVER-rated moment.
The Kinsler “home run that wasn’t” is a very SYMBOLIC moment of how the baseball gods — on several occasions — smiled on the Giants instead of giving them the usual back-of-the-hand.
But as far as substance is concerned, the incident took place early in the game and if the baseball had behaved as we would normally expect it to behave, it only would have TIED the score early.
Sure, the “feel” of the game changes when the ball doesn’t go out and even more so when Cain retires the side without a score but not THAT much. A Kinsler home run to tie the score would not have been a spirit-crushing moment, and I doubt that the outcome of the game would have been different.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 1:22 PM PST reply actions
I think it was the top of the 5th
It would have put Texas up 1-0.
by BrianIsAwesome on Nov 28, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Holy shit, you’re right!
It’s a good thing that the Giants won the World Series before my memory disappeared completely.
I had it in my head that the Giants took the 1-0 lead in the top of the 2nd and that the Kinsler hit came in the top of the 3rd.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Corr: I had it in my head that the Giants took the 1-0 lead in the BOTTOM of the 2nd.
I didn’t forget that that it was a home game, just had a brain fart while typing.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
yeah Rent hit the HR in the bot 5 after Kinslers double off the top ’o the wall
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I just checked. Oh well, the non-home run was more significant than I remembered it being.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
it was huge at the time. it didnt just hit the top of the wall, it bounced backwards back to the field after landing off the literal top ledge of the wall.
i just watched the whole game the other day for $2 on iTunes
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Not really a single moment, per se, but an underrated statistic.
The Giants went 6-2 (.750 WP) on the road during the postseason against teams that were a combined 159-84 at home during the regular season (.654 WP). During the regular season, the Giants were 43-38 on the road (.530 WP). That’s nuts.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
YOU GUYS THEY WILL NEVER BEAT THE BRAVES IN ATLANTA BEST HOME RECORD IT’S OVER!
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I can’t criticize because that’s largely what I thought myself.
This wasn’t the Giants team that I wanted to go to the World Series. I wanted them to beat Atlanta and then quietly and unobtrusively get blown out by Philly.
I could then look back on the season and say, “OK, we made the playoffs, finished ahead of the Bums, and now we’re just one or two hitters away.”
WITHOUT those additional hitters, I never thought they could match the better teams and I didn’t want them to go deep and lose AGAIN.
Amazing. Just amazing.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I was starting to believe it after Hinske’s home run.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
After the Ankiel homer – which I will thankfully never have to watch again – I thought we were done. RICK FUCKING ANKIEL?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
nah, the Ankiel HR i just figured was our one “bad loss” of the playoffs.
but the Hinske HR coming the next day was the real punch. after that HR, i thought we were done. i didnt even cheer when the giants tied it in the 9th (before the posey/conrad play) because i just thought they were setting us up for a bigger gut-punch loss.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
I took the Ankiel thing in stride for that very reason. Thank God I was at a wedding the following day and didn’t see Hinske’s homer or anything that followed.
I actually got some outdated information on that game, and thought the Braves won. I drove home pissed, went to bed pissed, got up pissed and went to work pissed. It was there I learned the Giants won.
Then I realized I had a lot of soda that day and had to piss.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
Me too, more or less. That game made me a believer. Or at least less of a doubter until the Uribe walk-off sac fly, which I think finally made me realize they could do it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, I thought that we were done after the Posey DP which had taken place in the previous inning.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
with the bases juiced and 1 down, posey up, farnsworth pitching, NO RUNS?
yeah, youre not gonna get a better shot at it
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Game 2 was over after Posey hit into the DP and Ankiel’s HR just placed the seal on what was already an accomplished fact.
But I mean, I thought the SEASON was over. Not that I couldn’t see the Giants winning in Atlanta, but I couldn’t see them winning in Atlanta after the way they lost Game 2.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
’twas a dark day
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn’t just the postseason. Starting in the beginning of September, I think the Giants won almost every important road game — while dropping a home series against Milwaukee and losing the first two against SD before finally closing it out on the last day. I had more confidence in them away than at home.
by non sequitur on Nov 28, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
not gonna do it
in the 16 years that there have been three rounds of playoffs, only the giants and the 2005 white sox of rowand and uribe fame have clinched all three series on the road while never being extended to a fifth or seventh game…math is not my strong suit but i wonder, between the 2010 giants and 2005 white sox, which team had the better record against teams that were better at home…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
yep
Phillies and Rangers hitters ballparks, giants will be no match for those powerful offenses in their home fields.
talking about underrated, I’m still amazed how the “experts” discounted our pitching staff.
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
Game 4, NLCS, top of the 8th inning.
Javier Lopez yields a leadoff double to Ryan Howard. Romo relieves him and gives up a game-tying, RBI double to Werth, which predictably leads to a bunch of reactionary “DFA HIM” and “FUCK ROMO” comments on MCC. However, instead of folding like a house of cards, he comes back to go popup-strikeout-strikeout to keep it a tie game.
In the very next inning, Jazz Hands ensue.
Thing C
by markdash on Nov 28, 2010 1:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I was just going to post that same half-inning ...
For me the underrated moment was after the leadoff back-to-back tying 2B’s, Rollins is up and Manuel doesn’t have him bunting – the ensuing Lopez-induced pop-up to short absolutely kills the inning for the Phils. Francisco and Ruiz then K on six pitches. Who knows what would have happened if Werth is on 3rd?
I may be exaggerating, but to me one of the greatest games at Mays Field ever.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
it was a Romo induced pop up
but yes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I wish Ken Rosenthal would stop beating the “Uribe to the Dodgers” drum. :(
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
But ...
Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune writes that Juan Uribe is considering accepting the Giants’ offer of arbitration.
“We’d be surprised if he did. Uribe would get a significant raise in arbitration after making $3.25 million in 2010, but he’s almost sure to get a handful of better multi-year offers from teams. The Cardinals are one team that’s expected to make a play for him, and the Giants are very interested in retaining him.” Nov. 28 – 9:47 am et
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 28, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Phil Rogers is kind of a moron, sadly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He said that Jeter could help both Chicago teams
Even though the Cubs have Starlin Castro, who should be their SS for the next 5 years (at least) and the White Sox have the best defensive SS in the AL
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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He also said that the Angels and White Sox would want to pick him up because “Erick Aybar and Alexei Ramirez are going to be expensive soon.”
Oh, so then overpaying someone like Jeter above and beyond what Aybar and Ramirez will ever make will totally take care of that problem!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And was it him who said Felix won the Cy young because of "SABR nerds bullying the voters"?
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Is it legal to have one guy play for two teams at the same time?
Of course, Jeter is so wonderful he could probably manage it. Imagine him running from dugout to dugout during those interleague games in Chicago.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 28, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Does that kind of make Jeter the Chuck Norris of MLB?
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Why would he want to go back to the White Sox? I mean, other than stacks of million dollar bills.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Not Sure if it Underrated
But Uribe’s game-winning sac fly against Oswalt in game 4 of the NLCS was a phenomenal tough guy AB. Oswalt was literally throwing 95 mph fastballs at his face trying to move him off the plate. Then after three in his ear, he took his flappy wrist, dove across the plate and lifted one into left. The giants win a back and forth game and put a chokehold on the series.
by hammystyle on Nov 28, 2010 2:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
that moment is adequately rated as The Greatest Moment of the 2010 Postseason by The Media
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Do they talk about it a lot on Giants radio? I remember a little discussion after the game itself, but not much.
the walk-off hit (only walk-off hit the Giants had in the postseason) that put the Giants up 3 games to 1 vs a 2-2 series, so yeah, pretty big win there.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
My Most Underrated Part of the Season-
after the Championship Parade, Posey came up to the podium. And he said “we’re gonna get back to work and make another run at this”
It’s underrated because it hasn’t happened yet.
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…interesting take on “underrated”…but I did love his oh so very quotable speech.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
“enjoy it for a day, a week, or a month…”
shit, he has no idea how long we’ve waited for this, and how long we’re gonna be enjoying this for. stupid rookie.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
He was two in 1989, and in junior high in 2002. I’m not surprised the historical merit of the Series win was lost on him.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
I don't think he missed it, or anything, at all
When does he miss anything? He is a hardcore competitor and I’m quite sure had his fill of celebrating after a game. He wants to hit and throw and win and a City Hall speech is none of those things. He wants his team and town to keep their eye on the prize, the 2011 World Series.
That’s what those kind of guys do. Also, he’s probably going to start calling the pitchers next week. The month is almost up.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a valid interpretation. I think when Buster said “we” he meant it in a narrowly-defined scope of his colleagues, not the fandom at large.
The South shall rise again! And it will have a tender, flaky crust!
This.
He wasn’t talking about historical perspective. He was saying “Hey, I know we won this time, but that doesn’t mean we’re getting complacent. I know I got all the way to the top and this is only my rookie year, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to try my hardest to do it again.”
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Kuiper got on an elevator during the Series
Buster was already on it. Kuiper said, “You know, it’s not like this every year.” The corner of Buster’s mouth twitched, and he replied, “Why not?”
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Krukow, but that is indeed the type of person being discussed.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
Sorry about that..
Buster isn’t trying to be ordinary. Other college players who know they are going to be drafter high and get a big bonus fool around their last term. Buster got 3.9 GPA instead.
All-ACC Academic Team (2006 & 2007)…two-time member ACC Academic Honor Roll (2005-06, 2006-07)…President’s List Spring 2007 (4.0 GPA)…Dean’s List (Fall 2005, Fall 2007)…major is finance
Buster is going to own us in 30 years. Next year he starts talking to all the venture capitalists and financiers among the Giants “investors.”
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Hmmmm Amazon now has a Giants Mr. Potato Head.
and a San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Newspaper Collage Poster
by Merope on Nov 28, 2010 2:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
does the Mr Potato head come with all the decor? or are the heads all interchangeable with the face decoration pieces? am i making sense?
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
i was just curious. i think ive outgrown the mr potato head by about oh, say, 18 years.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
sweets for the sweet
it must be a sweet potato, because that’s what the 2010 season was – freakin’ sweet…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if the actual poster has that baseball logo in the middle. It kind of ruins it.
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every appearance by Javier Lopez in the NLCS
Oh, he received plenty of credit, but not enough in my estimation. Therefore, I can declare these outings “underrated” in my own head. Yay.
OT: McCoven Award time
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/11/28/1840856/4th-annual-mccoven-awards
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I know the raiders dont matter
but Jacoby Ford just made one of the most spectacular catches I have ever seen.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I need to stop reading these articles
Dodgers eyeing Uribe for infield help
Continuing their aggressive offseason renovation, the Dodgers now are targeting free-agent infielder Juan Uribe, whose clutch production helped the division-rival Giants win the World Series.
The addition of Uribe not only would weaken San Francisco but provide the Dodgers with a needed veteran power bat for the middle of the lineup. He most likely would become the starting second baseman and trigger the non-tendering of Ryan Theriot, who was acquired from the Cubs with Ted Lilly and had a solid August but tailed off in September.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
dodgers already spent all their money this offseason, it seems. i bet they dont have another big signing this year, maybe a few garbage pile January signings, but that’s it. the divorce coupled with $30 mil for Lilly, Kuroda and Garland shored up the spending.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Having been a Good Giant makes it WORSE to then go and become a Dodger. Witness: Brett Butler, Jason Schmidt, Jeff Kent.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
This indeed.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying it wouldn't be bad
I’m just asking if Uribe would be HATED.
Kent was kind of a douche to begin with, so it was easy to hate him when he went to the Dodgers. I couldn’t hate Juan.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I did feel that way about Bill Mueller, I guess, but he also only played like 20 games for them, so it was never really tested.
I don’t know, though, I think choosing to go to the Dodgers immediately after winning a World Series with the Giants is a pretty hate-worthy thing.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Not gonna lie
I might cry if he throws up jazz hands against Wilson next year.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
No.....
I will never hate any player from this team that brought us a WS victory, no matter who they play for or how much they may hurt us in the future. They are all good Giants for life, now grandfathered in forever.
I loved Schmidt's tenure with the Dodgers.
After giving the Giants four or five Cy-Young-Award caliber seasons he goes to the Dodgers and gives them absolutely no return on a $47 million investment. They still owe him $1.5 million in 2011. One of my favorite Giants ever.
by betterthanbochy on Nov 28, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
For much the same reason, Andruw Jones. . .
is one of my favorite non-Giants ever.
by betterthanbochy on Nov 28, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t know that when he signed, though!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
True
But in the end, Giant fans lived happily ever after.
by betterthanbochy on Nov 28, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
A.J.’s revenge?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Yea, that was a sweet in your face you bums transaction.
Although I really liked Schmidt and was sorry to see his career go south so quickly.
“Go south.” Was that deliberate? I’ve never thought about the potential of that pun before.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 28, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
schmidt
really was very very good for us. we hosed the fuckin pirates in that deal!
by PocketfullofPoseys on Nov 28, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting philosophical question
Of the “if the tree falls in the forest” nature.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 28, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
I think you should watch the Star Wars marathon instead. You already missed Serenity.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 28, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not going to read it anyway. I’ll skim the next 60 pages or so and do my more important homework instead.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
9/10, vs the Padres -- Juggernate hard slide into 2nd base.
First place on the line, Juan Uribe hits a double play brounder up the middle, Nate Schierholtz goes into 2nd base guns blazing, and the winning run scores on a safe call at 1B.
Giants win 1-0.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Bonus points: he slid in Fah King Ek Steen.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 28, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
extrabaggs
Dodgers drove up price on Huff. Now are after Uribe. I think Colletti is also eyeing the leftover turkey sammich Sabean is having for lunch.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
“SUSAN! I asked you like two hours ago to run by the deli and pick up some turkey sandwiches!”
“I did, Mr. Sabean, they’ve been on your desk for ninety minutes.”
“What?! There’s nothing here but an empty bag and…some sort of weird moon-man language written in mayonnaise.”
“Mr. Sabean, that’s not moon language. You’re looking at it upside down. It says NC.”
“COLETTI!”
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 28, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Underrated keystone of the championship:
Susan.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
OT: Watching the Grey Cup on some Colorado local channel rebroadcasting from TSN
Bachman–Turner Overdrive is playing the half time show, and the whole thing just seems much more sincere and fun compared to the Super Bowl (which in comparison is just plain monolithic and commercial). I would totally and completely support an American CFL league.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Already happened
and was an Epic fail. .Sacramento Gold Miners 4 lyfe.
by kezargiants on Nov 28, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
That's because they tried to cram themselves into filled markets!
San Antonio? Birmingham? Memphis? Miami? Shreveport?? They’re already crazy about college football, CFL could never stick. Sacramento was doomed to fail because it was the only American team when it was founded (1993) and received no help from the league. Las Vegas, the only other non-crowded market just had a shitty team that played on a shitty field away from downtown in the Nevada summer heat.
After Ottawa enters the league in 2013, I think teams in Portland, San Jose, Rochester, and Halifax would be successful if given enthusiastic ownership and nice 30,000 seat stadiums (big if, I know, I know). Other places that might work (but are probably too crowded by existing college/NFL teams) are Boise, Columbus, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Los Angeles, and New York City.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
The point is, NFL is way too slow, the BCS makes no damn sense, and both are money grubbing assholes of leagues.
So the CFL it is. Then again, I’d also be excited if someone started a real American Cricket league, so I might not be the market people are looking for.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
there's the UFL
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
True...
but I also like the rule changes in the CFL, though the rule changes in the UFL are also an improvement over the NFL. If the UFL can manage to survive and put a team in the Bay Area, I would support them, but they just moved the San Francisco team out to Sacramento so…
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
underrated moment: Fontenot's triple
in the 2nd inning off Hudson in Game 3 vs. the Braves – looked like it might stand up as the only run of the game until the bottom of the 8th.
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12799863&topic_id=14871768&c_id=sf
Well hit!
Bring back Fontenot!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
OT: RIP Enrico Palazzo
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"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
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I’m so upset right now.
Nielsen had a huge impact on me and my sense of humour when I was growing up.
RIP Leslie, thank you so much for the fun memories.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Nov 28, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
This
RIP Leslie
"This is a street fight, and we win those." -- BRIAN SABEAN, 10/23/10
by Josh from Hollywood on Nov 28, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Surely this can’t be true.
The only way to honor the man is a tribute thread full of Leslie Nielsenisms.
by non sequitur on Nov 28, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
All of my moments have been said elsewhere in this thread
So I’ll just remind everyone that Randy Wynn is unrated.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 28, 2010 6:05 PM PST reply actions
well duh, he doesnt exist!
Randy winn is classy though
Not sure how to feel about this
from Cafardo’s latest:
Updates on nine
1. Emmanuel Burriss, SS, Giants — The 25-year-old Burriss, who has dealt with a pair of foot fractures, is one of the better players in the Dominican winter league, according to one National League scout. "He was moving well, stealing bases, and making all the plays,’’ said the scout. The Giants are in the market for a shortstop, but he could be an option if they can’t work out a deal for Tampa Bay’s Jason Bartlett or Boston’s Marco Scutaro.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
if people think that… let’s trade him. he’s never gonna hit MLB pitching or so it seems
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
people being scouts, i mean
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
i bleed orange i bleed orange
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Bartlett, Scutaro, Hardy… I’d be happy with any of them.
But happiest with Uribe. I has happy with Jazzy
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Shouldn’t hitting be part of the assessment? He has a .506 OPS in 88 ABs.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
HE WAS MOVING WELL AND MAKING ALL THE PLAYS FOR CHRIST’S SAKE
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe I should have put the for christ’s sake part at the beginning of the sentence. Now I just made it sound like he’s really religious.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
A comma might have helped as well.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
It would have removed some anger from the statement, though
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 28, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
no no no no no no no no no no
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I like how
None of those things have to do with what Burriss actually needs to improve on: FUCKING HITTING BETTER THAN A PITCHER.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I mentally put a comma after the word fucking.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Manny B baby
Haters gone Hate…dude is a world series champion.
by kezargiants on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Sez The Wall Street Journal
One of the teams most often mentioned as a possible alternative destination for Mr. Jeter is the San Francisco Giants. They could be attractive in that they would give him a chance to win and play in a big market. And Giants general manager Brian Sabean was the Yankees’ vice president of player development when they drafted Mr. Jeter in 1992.
The Giants have been in contact with Mr. Jeter’s agent, Casey Close, who also represents their catcher, Buster Posey. But they are not seriously pursuing him at the moment, according to a person familiar with the team’s thinking.
Team officials still aren’t convinced Mr. Jeter would sign with any team other than the Yankees and are wary of being used as leverage.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
lol and Sabes doesn’t want to be used as a bargaining chip, sure enough, what happens
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
They could be attractive in that they would give him a chance to win and play in a big market.
I know he has been waiting to get out of that one horse town.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
He probably wants to get out of that dump he lives in and pick up a nice condo in that up and coming 6th and Market area.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 6:51 AM PST up reply actions
a chance to win and play in a big market
BWAHahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 28, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
underrated cool moment?
it’s no jazz hands or timmy’s jump, but freddy’s pop-up slide 180 jumping fist pump after scoring the tying run in game 3 in atlanta. that game is probably top 3 for me in the entire postseason. exorcised the whole “division series win game 1, feel good, lose game 2, tell yourself it’s ok still got this, and then collapse” demons from ’00 and ’03. that and cody jumping for joy as he crossed home in game 5 in texas.
by housethatbondsbuilt on Nov 28, 2010 6:37 PM PST reply actions
I got a World Series cap for 10 bucks at Sports Authority! I wouldn’t have bought one at its normal price, but my aunt found out about ’em today, so I snagged one.
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of ross and velez
ok… i have THE most underrated moment, because NO ONE would list it if this thread went on for a hundred years… actually i have two of them and they are related… i might even have three…
the first was on the night of 9-11, when andres torres was struck down and had to have his appendix removed… in retrospect, it was the best thing that happened to this team, because the starting outfield definitely did NOT include cody ross, who wasn’t even a guy we wanted in the first place… no, torres was the centerfielder, burrell had owned the job in left and the giants seemed to determined to run jose guillen out to right every day until he started hitting (which would have been "never’ – but they were clearly sticking with him)… and schierholz was behind guillen… ross was basically a defensive late inning replacement for burrell…
even when torres went down, the giants turned first to aaron rowand for two starts before cody got his chance… if andres never gets operated on, cody probably gets very few at bats during the regular season and who knows if he turns it on like he did in the playoffs (with guillen unable to go, maybe they go to rowand in center and torres in right, as they had much of the season)… so, that’s one (i suppose guillen’s injuries would be another – you never want to see a guy get hurt but guillen’s injuries were fortuitous, to say the least)…
the other requires some scene setting…
as you remember when fate reared it’s ugly head for really the only time in the whole season and torres had the appendectomy, nobody knew HOW long he would be out…
and you remember how there were a LOT of choices as to who should replace him, but none of them were the obvious “one” and none of them gave anybody a warm fuzzy feeling?… they started with rowand, then tried ross, but people were lobbying for schierholz and even darren ford…
bochy was going to just try all the possibilities and whoever got hot was probably going to keep the job until torres came back (and no one was even sure he would BE back in 2010 – and a lot of confidence went out of the balloon)… because that’s the way bochy does things…
well, my biggest fear was that they would get around to trying eugenio velez, who has proven to my satisfaction that he simply can’t hit major league pitching… and if velez got hot, they’d stick with him…
the day before torres’ last game, the giants beat san diego 1-0… the last day torres played (9/11), the giants lost to san diego 0-1… on the first day without him, they won 6-1 against the padres… after an off day, the dodgers came in and the giants lost again 0-1… on that second day without torres, velez got a chance to pinch hit and grounded out weakly…
to say “the giants weren’t hitting” is putting it mildly… three of four games had been 1-0 or 0-1…
for some crazy reason, maybe because the giants just weren’t scoring, bochy went with what looked like a crazy lineup against the dodgers on september 15… i thought maybe he’d done a billy martin and drawn the names out of a hat…
that boxscore is here:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN201009150.shtml
velez batted leadoff, but played left field and cody ross replaced rowand in center… i had no way of knowing that ross would turn out to be a savior, and it looked to me like if velez did anything hitting leadoff, he would get the next shot in center and might be the guy who replaced torres for the rest of the season in center, leading off… that possibility was too cruel to imagine…
bochy seemed to have decided that the center fielder had to also be the leadoff hitter and i guess he thought velez could hit leadoff, but ross couldn’t (when ross finally won the job, he started hitting eighth with fontenot and renteria taking shots at leadoff)…
on that day, velez had his usal 0-3, but did draw a walk in a 0-0 pitcher’s duel, in a game that finished giants 2, dodgers 1 (ross went 0-4 with two strikeouts and bochy might have turned to velez in center the next day)… but on the first pitch of that third at-bat, with two outs and schierholz on second, velez did one of the stupidest things i’ve seen a major leaguer do… it MUST have been enough (combined with first pitch swinging on his first at bat) to make bochy or one of the coaches say, “we can’t play this guy” and he never got another start, barely played, notably failing to sacrifice sandoval to second late in the most important game of the year, number 162, and was deservedly left off the playoff roster…
what did velez do in the fifth inning?… i’ll be interested to hear if any of you remember this but i was at the game and when he did this, i turned to my buddy and said, “he doesn’t know the rule – four years in the major leagues and he doesn’t know the rule” and my buddy replied, “maybe he knows the rule but got brainlock”…
either way, here is what happened…
he fouled the first pitch right into the ground, corkscrewed it about two feet from his right ankle, up the line towards first base, about one foot foul… and that ball just went round and round and round…
and velez just stood there watching it… i’m screaming “run, you asshole”, but he just stands there and watches it until it finally stops corkscrewing, about a foot off the foul line…
now, everyone knows that if you hit a dribbler fair down one of the lines and in the infield, you run to first and if the defense doesn’t think they can make a play and get you out, they let the ball roll and if it goes an inch foul they grab it up before it can roll back into fair territory…
but the reverse is also true… if you hit a ball foul and it rolls into fair territory and you AREN’T running it out, the catcher can grab it up before it rolls foul again and throw you out at first…
and you’d think a major leaguer would know that rule… especially in the fifth inning of a 0-0 pitcher’s duel with two outs and a runner in scoring position during a pennant race…
had velez run that ball out, showing some knowledge of the game, bochy might have overlooked his swinging at the first pitch in his first at-bat… but he didn’t… and you just COULDN’T overlook BOTH gaffes… how different things would have been if velez seized the job in center (until torres returned) and ross never gotten his chance…
so, for me, that first pittch of that at-bat was the most underrated play of the season, because it changed the team’s future…
the next day, bochy switched back to rowand, who went 0-4… then back to ross (still hitting 8th) for two starts – he went 1-3 in each… then he moved ross to leadoff, but moved him to left and played darren ford in center in the late innings… ross was only 1-5 and i was afraid ford might get a chance (and i don’t know about his baseball sense, but anyone who says, “i was robbed” when he’s stealing the money himself, well, i hardly want him mucking up a great season)…
in the end, he stayed with ross, who, after he stopped alternating with rowand, hit safely in every single game he started in center until torres reclaimed the position on september 28, a quite remarkable recovery… then ross went back to being a defensive replacement, but when guillen finally gave in to injury, ross was ready and the rest is history… history made, fortunately, without eugenio velez…
wishyouweredead
by wishyouweredead on Nov 28, 2010 6:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Holy crap.
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The ephedrine must have kicked in.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
upon further review, this long turn of events that i could not read all of did because it was really long did not prevent the Giants from winning the World Series.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Not to be an asshole, but,
tl;dr
the Giants won the World Series.
by In Bust we Trust on Nov 28, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Me neither. Too long. Too many elipses. Too much butchering of grammar.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
the wall of text made my eyes bleed o_o
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
I read it too and I feel similarly!
Aaron King, please pitch better.
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McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
Holy living fuck, dude.
Sum it up in one word.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
doot-doot-doot-doot!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 30, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Old news?
But Jeremy Affeldt has a blog that I just discovered.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 28, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions
He tweets, too!
http://twitter.com/#!/JeremyAffeldt
He’s a pretty cool dude. Does lots of great charity work. Blog is mostly about God & helping people, and a very little baseball.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He mostly tweets inspirational quotes. I don’t follow his blog, but I did like his perspective on religion and baseball.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Too much Rick Warren re-tweeting. If I wanted to follow Rick Warren, I would. Affeldt has it bad for that guy.
Somebody on my facebook does the same thing. I’ve almost blocked her so many times because, fuck, I don’t want to read your inspirational quotes.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
ive blocked.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
thought it was a baseball blog, not “how to become an abolitionist in 5 seconds”
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
WTF?
Yeah, what a douche to do charity work and not write his blog catering only to your preferences.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Nov 28, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
whoa whoa whoa whoa now. i didnt say he had to write it to my preference. i thought it was a baseball blog, yet he does not talk about baseball
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
You made it sound like he was falsely advertising it, which he isn’t.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i was not aware it was his personal blog, which he is free to do whatever he wants with. im not gonna knock that, because that is his own forum to express his beliefs.
the players have the giants blog too, so i was not aware it was a personal one
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Uninteresting. I want to know all about his personal life and his takes on pop culture, not about his causes. If there aren’t any hilariously off-color personal photos taken by friends with comments by same, it’s not interesting.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 28, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
OT
RIP Leslie Nielson at age 84
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OT
LOL PEYTON
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
3 picks, two returned for TDs. bad night, but Indy still wins is my wager
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
One of those pick sixes definitely should have been defensive pass interference
by In Bust we Trust on Nov 28, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
you mean that most recent INT? or was that a roughing the passer that wasnt called?
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah it was the most recent interception. Wayne was pulled down by Weddle which let Weddle get the easy interception.
by In Bust we Trust on Nov 28, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
manning is taking a beating tonight- and that dude does not seem to play well when he’s getting hit… he flinched before the hit on that 4th and 4 on their last posession.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
The guy I’m playing this week in fantasy football has manning so I’m actually quite happy that he’s sucking.
by In Bust we Trust on Nov 28, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
this is most un-Manning.
then again, Super Bowl last year, Saints whacked him around and eventually he started throwing crucial INTs. dude usually falls on the ground to avoid a sack.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
I find Thomas Neal’s twitter so charming. He will probably screw it up at some point.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you sure have alot of faith in mankind :)
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by giant4life83 on Nov 28, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll tolerate the lower case, but “alot” must go.
That’s a different thing, all together.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
HEY! what do you have against the humble alot?
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Fred Lewis will hack it one day.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
“Man, I can’t believe I stayed out so late last night!”
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He kind of reminds me of BizNasty2point0. Except fewer tweets about homeless people and PT Cruisers.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
His love for the chargers makes him lose some points
but other than that he is pretty solid.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Holy cow...
Ruthless People sounds like an awesome movie. How have I never heard of it before now?
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yeah that was......odd
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Bochy put Schierholtz in for Burrell in the 7th or 8th of NLCS game one, and he immediately makes a nice play and tracks down a deep ball for an out
nope.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 28, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Not much of a first life, no.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Got a job.
But, nope.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 28, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
can you tell me a better way to procrastinate while I format my thesis?
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Hmm? Sorry, I was cashing my monthly check from my dad’s company.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 28, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
monthly?
pff. Mine’s bi-monthly.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
LOL no trust funds
peasants.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions
OT
Just finalized, the stops on our 2011 Giants road trip!
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
The Cubs' Owners:
The first ballpark:
Meh…I think it needs to be rebuilt with public funds. It’s not as if the Cubs make a lot of money nationally. Besides, look how old that ivy is getting. It’s white in a bunch of places!
it's obviously decrepit
it doesn’t even have any lights!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
Whats amazing is how the Giants lost that game to Philadelphia in extras when Werth tied it on the bloop double, and then beat the the Phillies in the NLCS. I remember being so down after that loss, but The giants were that close to sweeping the phils, and they showed that they had serious talent on the mound, which ended up winning the World Series for them.
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Real Madrid v Barcelona tomorrow. Gonna be EPIC.
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
I’m gonna say Messi and Pique will score. Ronaldo, too. 2-1 Barca.
by Murray, Present on Nov 28, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Even though it'll probably show up on highlight reels
The inning ending double play in the 8th inning of game 6 in the NLCS was pretty important and underrated. 2 runners on, 1 out. We’re up 3-2. Ruiz steps up vs. Wilson. The scary thing is that he actually made really solid contact.
I think the fact that his line drive went straight to Huff saved us a lot of torture in that series.
by WasabiTorture on Nov 28, 2010 10:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
OT #2
I really like 90’s music. I miss the days when musicians could sing about melancholy and heartbreak and not sound like hipster morons.
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
I want to push you around.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
So I will.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
That song was my jam back in the day.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
My jam was Nutella
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 28, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
ALTHOUGH WE’VE COME
TO THE END OOOOF THE ROOOOOOAD
STILL I CAN’T LET YOU GOOOOO
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I can only ever remember this as a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes song.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 28, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
I’m ashamed to admit that I don’t know what song this is…
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 29, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I want something else…to get me through this
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I know all the words to this song. And most of the words on the album.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree
I like the silly, dopey, fruity jams of the era. It reminds me of IPO parties and lurid tales of Aeron chairs and lines at mediocre restaurants and bidding wars for houses.
And filling up your bathtub with water on 12/31/99. Yeah we gonna party like its- HOLD UP IT IS!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
meh
1-2 doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
No, and it’s not a big deal for the system at all, but it’s still a slap in the face.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
At this point…I don’t care about the BCS until they at least go to a +1…
Stanfurd will get screwed (ala Cal 2005) and Ohio State/Michigan St. will get screwed…
It’s fine with me…more school getting mad at the system…
how, praytell
if 2 undefeated teams, one of which is in the SEC, and the other already beat Stanford once this season, are in the NCG, is stanford getting screwed?
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Yeah, Stanford got their fair shot...
but TCU definitely didn’t, and Oregon hasn’t completely convinced me they are a #1 or #2 team after their showing in Berkeley. I don’t think I will watch the BCS until they set-up at least a Top-4 playoff (though I would prefer a Top-8)
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
against Cal
was the ONLY time they scored under 45 this year.
Plus, every NC contender has a couple of close scrapes that you’d think they wouldn’t /cough Bama-Ten last year, also Tex-Neb /cough.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Oh no…not for the championship but they will not get to go to the Rose Bowl…Rose Bowl has to take TCU and Wisconsin…Stanford will end up in the least of the 4 BCS bowls despite being no. 4 in the rankings…
not necessarily
If Auburn beats SC, TCU could be sent to the Sugar Bowl instead, and, of course, if Auburn loses to SC, TCU will be in the NCG
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Shift-Avatar OT...Spoiler
Shift-A: Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving and got what they wanted over the weekend
Because this thread does not have enough Avatar-LAB…I had a couple of questions…mind you I haven’t watched it in a while and don’t remember the ending that well…
1) Is Aang really the last Airbender? I mean I am assuming there will be more Airbenders after Aang’s victory…or are Airbenders like a race (it doesn’t seem like it to me…)
2) What happens with the Avatar thing if there are no more Airbenders?
1) In The Legend of Korra, Avatar Korra is learning to airbend from Aang’s child. So he is not the last one ever. He was just the last one alive at that time.
2) Seems like the chain would be pretty definitively severed.
Placeholder.
by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Let's talk $$$
ESPN: http://www.fanfeedr.com/mlb/2010/11/29/post-season-shares
A full World Series share for the champion San Francisco Giants was worth $317,631.29 this year, according to figures released Monday by Major League Baseball.
The Giants voted 50 full shares to members of the team and other personnel. They also voted 9.89 partial shares and five cash awards, according to a statement from MLB.
The figure is slightly less than the $350,030 earned by members of the New York Yankees last season. The total amount is seven percent smaller than last year, though it is the third-highest in history.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
/day dreams
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 29, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Aaron King, please pitch better.
McC Wiki - for all you newcomers out there.
BRAIN SABEANE HAS YANKEE TIES
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Sign someone with a glove (JJ Hardy or the like)…take the money for Uribe and sign another bat in the OF
Stop with the negativity and SIGN HIM SABES!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
You’ll take Orlando Cabrera and you’ll like it!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
hmmm….tastes like Tejada.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t mind any of those options…Hardy (and the like) is about $5 million per year…Uribe is like to get $8-10 million per year from the Dodger (hopefully more…)
I would take the extra $3-5 million a year and sign Werth or Crawford…
So… SS money for a 2B? Who would be wasting his arm at that position anyway? This seems like an excellent idea, except for the part of Uribe playing for them.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 29, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
“except for the part of Uribe playing for them”
Yes, that would be the problem…=P
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Take the sentimentality out of it…if Uribe was playing for the Padres last year and gets a 3/$30 million deal from the Dodgers…I for one would be LOLing all day…
I know, I know…I LIKE the financial part of it. But that doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I understand where you are coming from but if Juan is making it a business…then the Giants have to be a business
Now when you hear a confused newcomers at the park ask "are they booing or saying ‘uuu?’ you can give a new answer.
by Seasick fish on Nov 29, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Really?
Uribe, 31, hit .248/.310/.440 with 24 home runs in 575 plate appearances for the Giants this year, adding a pair of postseason home runs. He mainly played shortstop, but also logged time at third base and second base. Uribe would presumably serve as the Dodgers’ second baseman with Rafael Furcal in the fold. Uribe is a Type B free agent who was offered arbitration by the Giants, so the Dodgers will receive a supplemental draft pick for their loss.
Personally…I think this is a bad move by the Dodgers (depending on the contract)
Man, I really hope he cashed in here. C’mon Agent Ned and Agent Juan—-give him the contract that the Yankees are offering Jeter (3yr/45m).
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Ugh if it was any other team i’d say thanks Juan good luck! But the dodgers!?! cmon man.
But dont blame sabes at all for not matching what is bound to be a ridiculous deal, good for him showing some restraint.
by haroldansivakumar on Nov 29, 2010 9:59 AM PST reply actions
Ken Rosenthal
Confirming report by @Buster_ESPN. #Dodgers close with Uribe. Will be three years, $21 million.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
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