Grady Sizemore?
by Carmelballin on Nov 24, 2010 2:51 AM PST
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PrintThe way it looks, the Giants are going to (at best) have virtually the same team as last year, and that's if Uribe signs or an equivalent takes his place. Don't get me wrong, I loved the group of guys we had but they were definitely not the most talented team (especially offensively) going into the playoffs. It's hard to imagine that the same group of guys are going to be able to do it again. In the end, the Giants do need more help with the bat and cannot count on the breaks and timely hitting that they had toward the end of the season and the playoffs. I cannot tell you how happy I was that the Giants finally won a championship, but we still have the same story this upcoming season; the Giants cannot waste this good of pitching for the next few years.
The truth is the Giants have a clusterf*** of position players and some bad contracts. I do like the Huff signing, I felt like that was a no brainer to bring him back. However, when looking at our outifeld, there are about 5-6 players that can make the roster; Ross, Torres, Rowand, DeRosa, Schierholtz, and possibly Burrell (although doubtful that the Giants will sign him). Point being, the Giants put themselves in a situation where they have no room financially or structurally to make a big signing, meaning they will end up with the same team at the very best unless they make a trade. Like I said, I think the Giants still need a prolific bat in the lineup.
Here's a proposal that I think can work out:
Why not take a shot at Grady Sizemore? When healthy, he has always been considered one of the best players in baseball and it sounds like the Indians are trying to shop him. If we could package any combination of Schierholtz, Pablo, minor leaguer, etc I think the Indians may bite. When Sizemore is healthy, he is arguably the best center fielder in baseball. I think it's a risk that the Giants should be willing to take. Sizemore is going to make around $7mil in 2011, and will have an option in 2012, the same time Rowand's contract will expire along with some others (or close to). If Sizemore can produce in one season, I'm sure the Giants could give him an extension at a reasonable cost. If he doesn't work out, oh well it was worth the risk. Obviously, the Giants shouldn't do this without extensive research about Sizemore's health and the cost to bring him over to San Francisco. An outfield of Torres, Sizemore, and Ross (L->R) would look really good.
I haven't done much research on this, but just thinking about if briefly, I really think it can work. Let me know what you think.
1. Andres Torres LF
2. Freddy Sanchez 2B
3. Grady Sizemore CF
4. Buster Posey C
5. Aubrey Huff 1B
6. Cody Ross RF
7. Juan Uribe/Mark DeRosa/Pablo Sandoval SS/3B
8. Juan Uribe/Mark DeRosa/Pablo Sandoval SS/3B
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DeRosa at short?
(shudder…)
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Probably better than Sandoval at SS
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No
They wouldn’t be shopping him if they thought he would ever be able to get back to being the player he was before. They would hold on to him and then sell high instead of selling low, like they’re doing right now. The Giants don’t need to do anything here except to wait for Brandon Belt. And speaking of selling low, let’s hold onto the Panda right now instead of trading him for a player that’s broken down.
Also, trading Panda would make it mandatory that they re-sign Uribe, so not only would you be adding Grady’s contract, you’d be adding on Uribe’s big bucks. Sizemore for Panda could conceivably add more than 15 million to the payroll.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Nov 24, 2010 4:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions
not necessarily. Could still trade for a reasonable SS option, sign Cabrera (or whomever) to a short term deal, and plan for Derosa to play 3B. Not saying it’s the best option, but it wouldn’t require Uribe to come back.
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Belt belt belt. Belt belt be belt.
This team is a tease. 2010 Giants baseball playing Just the Tip with the best of them.
'Nuff Said
I haven’t done much research on this,
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
I have no problem taking a flier on someone like this, but just because they’re selling low on Sizemore doesn’t mean we should sell low on Pablo. Given their respective contract status that would be a waste. Teams need pitching, if they don’t want to take a chance on a couple of our young pitchers (i.e. Surkamp, Tanner, Stoffel or Buccardo), then I don’t see a reason to take a flier on a player that had Microfracture surgery in June and has one year left on his contract.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Nov 24, 2010 5:39 AM PST reply actions
Bad trade partners
The fact is you still need to pay for Sizemore’s name, so including the Nate’s and Surkamp’s of the world won’t do it. He’s a fan favorite in Cleveland, and 2 years removed from being a 7 WAR guy. Pablo plays a position they have options at (Chisenhall and Laporta) so we’d have to give up a Neal + Wheeler + Runzler type of package, and I’m not sure that gets it done. Plus I totally agree on not selling low on Pablo, as he’s a year removed from awesomeness as well. And Sizemore is broken…I’d love to have him, but not sure I want to give up what it would take.
Brian Sabean would return more calls if he wasn't so busy being the greatest baseball mind in the history of the game.
Also
Brandon Belt
Brian Sabean would return more calls if he wasn't so busy being the greatest baseball mind in the history of the game.
Imma let you finish but
Brandon Belt
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Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
by nvsfg on Nov 24, 2010 8:44 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
If he doesn’t work out, oh well it was worth the risk.
If he doesn’t work out, I think it means it was not worth the risk.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
by Woody Wins on Nov 24, 2010 9:27 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Worth the risk
He probably means that in the same way a losing manager says he’d make the same (losing move again). He doesn’t mean he’d choose to lose again, he means that if the game were played again from that point, it’s a defensible choice to make again.
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by achiappanza on Nov 27, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Nate for Grady, getterdone
otherwise…what’s for lunch?
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
The way it looks, the Giants are going to (at best) have virtually the same team as last year, and that’s if Uribe signs or an equivalent takes his place.
Also forgetting The Bat.
He was as good as Posey and Huff while he was here. He provided 30 HR power over 96 games and was a huge factor in the Giants success.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
and he actually put up a 4.9 UZR. I know SSS, especially with UZR but we know he was not killing us out there, probably thanks to the guy in teh red cape who covers CF and and the lfet center gap by himself.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 24, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
My P/C is 30/5234
in 3.5 years. I guess I’m doing it wrong.
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Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Mine’s 9/8331. And honestly I have no memory of the nine. Wonder why I was so chatty those days.
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My CPR is higher than yours
I have a 206!
Jponry’s is 359, but I think PiKAgiant leads the pack at 8002.
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by EliminateMe on Nov 24, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I like the "CPR" twist
Easier to compare. In defense of us mods, our posts include Game Threads, which is like counting sac flys against our BA.
I wonder what the acceptable cutoff is? 50?
The thong is, it happened.
We should make sure to add "CPR" to the new McWiki page along with the appropriate ratios listed LOL
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Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
11/24048 since 2006
And every single one WORTHLESS!
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by satyricrash on Nov 24, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
8/18058
We really are doing it wrong. I probably just don’t have anything interesting to say.
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As much as I’d LOVE to have Sizemore on the Giants, there are way too many factors that don’t make this feasible.
In this line
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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It would be a crazy move for the Giants
Its impossible to know how and when he will come back from his latest injury
"You need to get real!"
I vote ROFL
1. Sizemore’s two years removed from being an elite player. No one knows whether he’ll ever be that player again. That’s the kind of player you give $3-5M or trade a B prospect to get. Cleveland will undoubtedly want more than that.
2. The ONE PLACE where the Giants really have an excess of position players is the outfield. Torres, Ross, and DeRosa are currently penciled in, and if you move DeRosa to the INF, you’re still sitting on Rowand and Schierholtz, both of whom could probably be average regulars factoring in offensive and defensive contributions. And Huff can play left.
3. If we’re going to spend $7M on a player, let’s bring Uribe back, considering we have to fill SS anyway. What’s with this obsession with acquiring upgrades when we have holes? Field a team of eight average position players and then we’ll talk about upgrading.
Sizemore doesn’t make sense considering the Giants’ financial situation, the farm system’s lack of upper minors depth (meaning we’d have to part with more low minors players), and their needs. Just about the only reason to acquire Sizemore is because he’s two years removed from being one of the best players in the game, but you can say that about every team. Gonna need more than that to make this a good move.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
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