Aubrey Huff re-signs for two years
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 12:00 PM PST
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PrintThe Giants might have overpaid a little for Aubrey Huff. Good.
Is this what post-championship bliss is like? Is this the transactional equivalent of lighting a cigar with a $100 bill? Good. Huff reminds me that the Giants won the World Series, in no small part because he wasn’t Adam LaRoche or Nick Johnson. Give a big raise to Huff, and the other two can sit in the corner and think about what they did. Wait, someone needs to put bubble wrap in the corner before Johnson si…damn. Too late. Wrenched phantom vestigial tail. Sixty-day DL. Best of luck, Nick.
When someone scores a touchdown and celebrates by dancing, dancing, dancing like a fool to celebrate, you might hear an old-timer say something crusty like, "Act like you’ve been there before." Well, we haven’t been here before. This is all new to us. So I’m a third of the way through the Icky Shuffle, and that’s going to lead to a sixteen-minute Robocop. I refuse to act like I’ve been here before, and I don’t blame the Giants for not getting hung up on cold, boring logic. Everyone gets a raise, and here’s a $50 gift card for Red Lobster while we’re at it. I don't care if Yankees fans are laughing at us for acting like noobs.
There’s every reason to question the logic of the deal. Huff is going to be 34 (uh), he’s coming off a season in which he surprisingly improved on his career numbers (wait…), and he plays the same position as the only plus-plus-prospect in the system (oh, that always works out). He’s getting paid like the player he was last year, not like the player he’s likely to be for the next two years.
But he’s Aubrey Huff, World Champion. And from a purely baseball perspective, it’s not as if the Giants signed him to be a bunch of good memories stuffed in a thong – the guy can still play. He brought a measure of patience to the lineup that had been completely missing, and he’s definitely preferable to the free agent alternatives. His ability to play a corner outfield spot gives the Giants some options that they wouldn’t have if he were a Prince Fielder type.
My biggest fear is that if Huff craters and goes down a dark, Randy Winn career path where he just can’t hit at all, there’s no way that Bruce Bochy will recognize it in time. There’s a perfectly plausible scenario in which Brandon Belt is hitting .370/.450/.640 in Fresno through July, and Aubrey Huff is hitting .189/.265/.302, Detroit-style, for game after game after game after game.
That’s some seriously apocalyptic thinking, though. It’s not like Huff turning 34 or 35 is going to make his nose fall off like he’s Binkley’s dad. It’s far more likely that Huff hits closer to his career averages of .283/.345/.476, runs okay, plays decent defense, cracks more than a few jokes, and spends a little time in left with Mark DeRosa, Pat Burrell, or, uh, Carl Crawford when Belt is ready.
The Giants entered the offseason needing a first baseman and a corner outfielder. If nothing changes, they have a first baseman who can also play a corner outfield spot if one of the best first baseman prospects in the minors is ready for the majors. It’s not an inexpensive kind of depth, but it beats wondering if Dan Ortmeier is going to win the job in Scottsdale. I would have preferred something closer to a 2/$16M deal, with the savings thrown Juan Uribe’s way, but that’s just nitpicking. An extra $6M is nitpicking, you might ask? Maybe that’s not the perfect way to describe the difference, but I don’t think it will prevent the Giants from building the teams they would have built in 2011 and 2012 if Huff were a little cheaper.
In conclusion, the 2010 San Francisco Giants won the World Series.
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In conclusion, the 2010 San Francisco Giants won the World Series.
YES
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
by esseffgeez on Nov 23, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
something about not totally loving Huff’s 2/18 contract?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Different story if Huff had struck out or not gotten that hit to RF in Game 3.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
He had a great season. I think this is a risky deal, because of his poor showings in 2007 and 2009, but probably fair given the market.
I think it’s 50% a reward for being so awesome this last season and in the playoffs. On that note, I can’t imagine a player not wanting to come here. The brass is very loyal to their alumni — many of the old players are still on the payroll as advisers/consultants, they reward you for playing well (see Aubrey Huff) rather than just using you and dismissing you. Kind of makes you mad when you think of the morons that don’t want to play here because, “ it’s hard to hit homeruns.”
by Rhapsody in Teal on Nov 23, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Self interest is not dumb. You’re a lefty slugger. You know the market overvalues homers. You know you’ll maximize your earnings by getting the market to overvalue you. You want to hit home runs and make money. Ergo, you are less interested in a park that holds down lefty home runs.
Huff did fine. Career year, I believe.
by Rhapsody in Teal on Nov 23, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but when the Giants offer to overpay and still get snubbed, it irritates a little bit.
Adam LaRoche turned down a deal that was more than generous from the Giants that was well above value and for multiple years. Seeing his option declined after the season was rather pleasant.
I don’t blame a guy for turning down a 1-year deal if he is trying to max out his earnings, but when the Giants are forced to overpay like they did for Rowand, it’s frustrating. They almost made the same mistake with LaRoche and thankfully he declined.
Roy Halladay just woke up in a cold sweat. He had a dream about this rodeo clown with a stick...
I'm not convinced it's the home run potential
If it was, all kinds of power guys would sign with the Rockies. Check Matt Holliday to see how much that gets discounted in the free market. And yet, the Rocks never signed anyone who had 30 HR’s before they got there, until they signed a washed-up Giambi.
I’m hoping FA’s have avoided the Giants because they haven’t believed in their title potential.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Nov 23, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Well, except the Rockies have less motivation to go out and sign HR hitters since they can create them so easily.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Coors effect
The power boosts everyone equally, from the guy with warning track power to the guy who hits ’em hard enough to go out of almost any park. Coors might make a 20 HR guy out of a 15 HR one, but it also can boost a guy from 40 to near 50 and those runs matter for the home team. Seems to me they still have incentive. And note they did spring big time to pay Helton.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Nov 25, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
This is how I’m ending all of my essays on my law school finals, regardless of the question.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Can't do Polynesian for you, but here's what I do have:
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Nov 23, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
DID IT
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Never gets old.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Deja vu? I feel like I read this somewhere else. Hmm.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:08 PM PST reply actions
Sabean is an old school GM that values Loyalty highly
Huff delivered for him, now he is willing to deliver for Huff. As long as the contract length is 2 years the $$ amount is not important.
You can see this as overpaying (a la Keith Law), or you can see this as an employer giving the employee extra bonus for being a good soldier. In a world without a salary cap, I really think it’s not that big of a deal to slightly overpay Huff.
Yes it’s business, but it’s also personal. The Giants have always made it known that they treat loyal players like family, and will continue to do so. It’s the Giants Way.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Nov 23, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Still not overpaying…look at the alternatives…Pena/Korneko/Dunn all would want 3 years+ at lot more than $11 million per…
Yup and it sounds like
the Giants just matched an offer Huff had gotten from another team.
Yup.
And that makes the offer “market value”. Considering the other 1B options, this is not overpaying, and was the best option of all the FA options.
LH
OF flexibility for Belt
Early signing, so no getting stuck with Aubry Huff because everyone else is off the table.
Cheaper than the alternatives.
I am also a believer in the “pay the man” theory.
I like it.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
+1
Good points
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Early signing, so no getting stuck with Aubry Huff because everyone else is off the table.
You mean how we got stuck with him in the first place?
Or at least like some thought we did.
yes tongue was planted firmly in cheek.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
It sounds like Huff brought the offer to the Giants
and said, “Can you match this?” Which is another kind of loyalty.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
It also makes it sound like...
…he didn’t sit there and wait for a bunch of teams to bid against he each other for him. He got his offer and came to the Giants.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I completely agree. There may be a lot of 1Bmen on the market, but after Huff and those three, then LaRoche, you’re starting to get into Wigginton and Cantu country.
I would absolutely rather have Huff back than Pat Burrell, and I really like Pat Burrell.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 23, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think Pena
Will get even half of that actually. He might b nxt years Huff. 1 yr $3 mil
Brandon!
Belts one out of here!!
by Vaccaro on Nov 23, 2010 2:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He’ll be working at Golden Coral?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Pena gonna get paaaaaaaaaaiiiiddddd
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm glad Huff is staying.
And lets face it, the contract could be worse. Or we could have not signed him. But that’s irrelevant because Huff is here to stay. Way to go Sabes.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 12:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I am glad the rally thong's back.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 23, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions
Just the thong?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
Well, and Huff, of course.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 23, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Glad to be back!
I’m hopin to get another cable car ride out of the deal.
This thing nailed it! World Champions!
by Aubrey Huff's Thong on Nov 23, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This was the first time I felt legitimately dirty clicking the “inspect member” page to find out whose sock puppet this is.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
No, no. It’s the real thong. I met it at a blogging superstar party with Brian Wilson and that model.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
You can inspect my member anytime Howie.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS?
Nah, too easy.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Also, anatomically incorrect.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Member? Sock?
Obviously it must be Anthony Kiedis.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Your Voyeuristic Tendencies Are Showing.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
slightly over paid? yes
worth it? yes
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Nov 23, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions
F*CK YEAH!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Hard to tell if they overpaid
I don’t think we will know that until we see what others sign for. Market moves every year.
Red Lobster: healthiest family restaurant
RED LOBSTER
Compared with the other major sit-down chains and their four-digit fare, Red Lobster looks like a paragon of sound nutrition. The daily rotating fish specials, ordered either blackened or grilled, are the centerpiece of a menu long on low-calorie, high-protein entrees and reasonable sides. For that, Red Lobster earns the distinction of being America’s healthiest chain restaurant. The only real trouble you’ll find is when the fryer is involved.
Conversely:
THE CHEESECAKE FACTORY
No restaurant chain exemplifies America’s portion problem more than Cheesecake Factory. Aside from a couple of salads, the leanest regular dinner item is a hulking cheeseburger called The Factory Burger, which delivers the same number of calories as a Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese from McDonald’s. That’s the leanest! And it gets worse from there. The average liability for a full-sized sandwich is nearly 1,500 calories, and the average pasta clocks in at 1,865.
The problem with Red Lobster is, by the time you get your meal, you’ve consumed your weight in cheese biscuits.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on Nov 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But they’re so delicious!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
More reason for me to not like Cheesecake Factory.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 12:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The pricey items are already a deterrent
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
I was on a business trip in Arizona a few years ago with some of my coworkers. While there, one of them insisted on eating exclusively at chain restaurants. Preferably McDonalds, which nobody else wanted. We settled for The Cheesecake Factory one day for lunch.
Her reasoning: “You know at a chain exactly what you’re going to get every time.”
This reason makes me a very sad person.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Yea, well we got a top dog down here now called Berkely dog.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 3:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey…I’m in the OC as well…
I saw that about Berkeley Dogs…although I was not a big fan for top dogs when I at Berkeley…
Well then,
I guess this doesn’t effect you. I liked it, ( This is going to sound bad) I’m a big fan of sausages.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
There is a joke there or two people can go with.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I know
There is no easy way to say that, especially on the internet.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
You know, that’s okay for the most part if you’re in your general area & want something safe. If you’re travelling with coworkers, you get your ass outside your element & try something new.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
A-freaking-men, brother!
It’s not like Phoenix/Scottsdale is hard up for good local places to eat!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Those people make me sad. I found a great pasta place here years ago that I just walked into. I only eat chain places when I’m with friends and it’s the only place we can agree on.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 3:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
"You know at a chain exactly what you’re going to get every time."
I’m convinced that’s the main reason for Starbucks’ success. Not just the consumables, but the experience is known and consistent.
It doesn’t make sense that a chain could establish itself in a new food segment when the product can be matched by existing businesses so easily.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Nov 23, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
A Red Lobster that won't ruin your dinner!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Parts are.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
/hokysmokes joke
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 23, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Don't like the amount
But the $2 Million dollar buyout is where its at.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Please re-sign Uuu
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
But.........but...........Nick Johnson has a better OBP
/jponry
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
There's a cure for that
/Bengie Molina
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
That might work!
/If Johnson doesn’t explode into a million pieces
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
Fact: 40% of those pieces would land on a base.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
by jhiat00 on Nov 23, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
ICWUTUDIDTHER
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
lol
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Good point
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
So you need a Belt in case of trouble with your Johnson?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
...I was hardly the only person who wanted Nick Johnson.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don't even remember you as the most vocal proponent
or the one with the most Star Wars photoshops about it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
I thought for sure they were gonna work out a back door deal.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I was just glad they didn’t ram a deal through.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
We definitely would’ve gotten shafted on that.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Johnson is another word for cock!
Am I doing this right?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
If Johnson made the Giants team now he would be riding the bench...
What I mean is, you would find Johnson beneath Belt….
I mean…I think the Giants are ready to play their new member…
I’m not doing this right….
WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING THE LAST TWO EPISODES OF SOZIN'S COMET?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I have some grading to do first
and I need to run over to our program office and drop off some paperwork :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
pfft
Being “busy” with “work”
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I know that Bill Simmons is wrong about a handful of things, but this post reminded me of one of his Rules for Being a Sports Fan:
After your team wins a championship, they immediately get a five-year grace period: You can’t complain about anything that happens with your team (trades, draft picks, salary-cap cuts, coaching moves) for five years. There are no exceptions. For instance, the Pats could finish 0-80 over the next five years and I wouldn’t say a peep. That’s just the way it is. You win the Super Bowl, you go on cruise control for five years. Everything else is gravy.
he doesn’t follow his rule
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Yeah, in fact he seems to turn up the whining exactly because his teams have won championships. Not criticizing him for his hypocrisy, just for the rule.
by Every6thDay on Nov 23, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
In his defense
And I stopped reading him a long time ago, he gets paid to write about sports and his followers expect him to talk about his teams.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
I used to expect him to talk sports. When I realized he didn’t talk baseball beyond the ESPN approved teams, I stopped reading him.
I also stopped because I kept waiting for him to continue the greatest sports movie list that he’d started so long ago. When he dropped THAT, I dropped HIM.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
He did recognize Giants fans’ suffering over the past 50 years in one of his articles. Although I don’t know what suffering he was talking about, the Giants won the World Series in 2010.
Bill Simmons peaked
… with his article condemning Roger Clemens. After that, I coincidentally followed his rule and stopped reading him.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Nov 23, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
Simmons did do one thing
He tried to tell me (on his podcast, of course) that RBI’s don’t count….that started my desire to figure out why everyone had apparently gone insane with Sabermetrics. Fortunately, in 2010 Aubrey Huff came along and saved us all from ever having to have ridiculous arguments over whether the error in estimation of a singular metric to describe a 33 year old human male’s performance at both the plate and in the field over a 162 game baseball season is due to luck.
by HummFingBaby on Nov 30, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
I really can’t see myself bitching about anything Giants-related until one of the Dodgers, A’s, Padres, or Rockies win a championship before the Giants win another one.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
You say that now. But I know you, Jo. You will find some man. And you will love him, and care for him, and live and die with him. You will, you will. And I’ll be damned if I have to stand by and watch!
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Little Women reference!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I call bullshit.
And as evidence I present the Florida Marlins post championship fire sales.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
great point
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
That proves the rule?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Oh God
You’re gonna bring out the grammar police with that one.
Are they going to rub up Mr. Happy?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if Pedro Feliz would be surprised to hear how much he is stall talked about by Giants fans.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
160 Character Learning?
Are you saying reading a series of 160 character blurbs is better for learning than listening to an actual human being? Wonder why I mourn for the future?
by HummFingBaby on Nov 30, 2010 6:54 AM PST up reply actions
or, uh, Carl Crawford
SO THERES STILL A CHANCE?!?
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
the KLAW is not amused, of course
The San Francisco Giants, meanwhile, made the worst mistake a GM can make after winning the World Series — they’re overpaying one of the guys who got them there, just because he got them there.
I’ve outlined many times why I think Huff’s 2010 season was a fluke, from the fact that he’s 33 to his regression in the final two months (plus October) to his history of bad defense at several positions, and paying him more than he’s likely to be worth just ten months after nobody wanted the guy makes little sense.
He goes on and talk about the situation is even worse because Belt is ready, is a first baseman, and one of them now has to play left or be trade bait.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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the worst mistake a GM can make
I can think of worse mistakes.
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Like not winning a World Series
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
There's that
But also Barry Z…remembers not to complain about Sabean.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 23, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
No kidding
It’s a 2 year deal on a big-market team. Huff can play LF when Belt comes up. It’s not as if it’s probable that Huff will completely crater, and if he has a bad year, then it’s only one more year on a non-crippling contract.
This isn’t an Aaron Rowand situation.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Thank god we don’t have one of those!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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or a Zito!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 23, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
2 year deals!
Overpay
Struggle
World Series Championship
Science!
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
ahem… trade that shall not be named
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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
THE WORST MISTAKE A GM CAN MAKE*
- The season after winning a WORLD SERIES.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Damn you formatting.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Of course Huff will regress
But really, all he needs to do is hit his career numbers and play average-ish defense and he’ll be worth his contract. That’s not a ton to ask.
And Huff can play fine LF defense, so blocking isn’t really an issue.
After all, even if you don’t sign Huff and call up Belt, you still need a left fielder.
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The problem is though that Huff doesn't hit his career numbers.
Hot/Cold.
On or Off.
- WAR or ++ WAR.
I would be very happy with his career avg @ 10M. Problem is his history says you might pay 10M for -.07 WAR.
I do not see any better options out there though. I am hoping that he takes a liking to winning and homecooking and stabilizes that trend this year. Even a regressed Huff is still enough value.
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BIG MONEY BIG MONEY NO WHAMMY NO WHAMMY...
STOP
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Actually, no
Baseball Prospectus is going to use Huff’s career arc to project future similar left handed hitters. That’s all the statistics mean.
by HummFingBaby on Nov 30, 2010 6:59 AM PST up reply actions
reasonable points
but I wonder what would’ve been an acceptable contract to Huff from his perspective. Sometimes I feel like KLaw and similar analysts fall into the trap of criticizing signings in a vacuum without taking into account whether it’s a buyer’s or seller’s market at the position that year. Given Huff’s versatility, and that (apparently) another team offered him just as much, I’m willing to concede that this was a slight overpay, but it’s one I’m willing to tolerate as a reward to a player who had a great season. And I don’t think it’s the kind of overpay that’s going to keep the Giants from making any other moves they’d really want to make so it doesn’t worry me much.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
His main point is Belt is ready, should offer 1 yr deal for Huff, and if he walks, collect draft pick
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There’s a little more in the article, but I feel uncomfortable copy/pasting entire premium contents from paid site.
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Wait…you had to pay for that?
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espn insider
you get this shiny magazine with it!
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
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Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I’d almost pay them more so I didn’t have to recycle the magazine every two weeks.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
God this
I got something like a 5 year subscription for a few bucks that came with Insider. I want no part of that worthless, pile of shit magazine, but I do like Insider.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
yeah, I just read it myself
interesting that he’s basically got no problem with the Tigers paying Victor Martinez $50 mil over 4 years in terms of the money there, but that signing Aubrey Huff for 2 years $20 mil is a cardinal sin.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 23, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
That contract looks really bad to me. I can’t believe Martinez got four years.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 23, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I’m evidently in a distinct minority that thinks this Huff contract is a mistake. But that V-Mart contract looks waaaaayyy worse.
I'm with you
We count for 20% each, right?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Because Huff didn't consent to a full body scan.
Though truth be told, that thong barely hides anything anyways.
Honestly the jury's still out
I consider the biggest priority SS, and this overpay for Huff limits the team’s options to re-sign Uribe and there aren’t many other appealing FA SSs. Now if Sabean pulls off a trade for Stephen Drew, I may well revise my assessment.
My initial evaluation is just based on the view that overpaying is pretty much always a mistake; that said, judging every single move in isolation is probably not the right thought process. What matters is who’s on the roster when the season starts. Maybe there’s a plan, and Sabean has decided this contract fits within it. We’ll see.
Frankly
If Juan is going to get something like what Aubrey just got, I say we let him walk, take our draft pick, and trade for Marco Scutaro.
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This exactly
Very nice draft class this year.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I love Uribe
but my philosophy is very similar to Huff— 2 years, fine, 3 years I’m very nervous.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 23, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Thats a valid point
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Huff is a Type B so....
The pick issue is much less interesting. If he were a Type A, then you are talking about 2 primo picks.
this
faced with a choice between slightly overpaying for huff and taking our chances on the OF/1B market, this was totally worth it. His wildly varying numbers aren’t inexplicable; he was out of shape, burnt out, and considering retirement. Now he has reason to be productive.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I hope.
But I can easily envision Huff coasting into next season with a belly full contentment and empty of fire. I think that Buster is going to bring it %100 and have pinned my hopes on him being a leader in terms of fending off the ‘disease of more’.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I dunno.
Huff seems like a good guy. He likes where he’s playing, he likes the people he’s playing with…I don’t see him pulling a Sandoval.
Ditto on Buster though. He’ll want to do this all over again.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Shirley you can't be serious
The guy wanted to come back because he loved being on a competitive team. Anyone that played with as much fire as Huff did in 2010 is VERY unlikely to just turn it off in 2011, IMO
The thong is, it happened.
Shirley, surely, lol.
Looking at Huffs career numbers, his 2007-2010 is VERY unlikely too. WAR each year goes from 2007 (-), 2008 (), 2009 (-), 2010 ()
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
You know I just watched that movie Monday… wow. Aside from the whole airport security / TSA violations stuff. I don’t think they’d get away with that movie now.
“I take my coffee like I like my men…………………………..black.”
MRS CLEAVER!
So hilarious.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
The airport scenes are crazy too. I remember when the flower people used to hang out at SFO. Not no more! Oh and ha! That taxi? No way that sucker stays parked there for what? 4 hours?!
THAT MOVIE HAS SERIOUS PLAUSIBILITY ISSUES
NO WAY COULD YOU GET A SAXOPHONE THROUGH AIRPORT SECURITY
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
THE FOG IS GETTING THICKER
AND LEON IS GETTING LAAAAARRRGER!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Trivia: The guy waiting in the taxi was Howard Jarvis
The tax crusader behind Prop 13
The thong is, it happened.
To be honest, I think they would get away with it. A lot of hullabaloo gets made over American entertainment culture being all PC-ified since the mid-‘90s, but I think that’s a perception that doesn’t hold up very well.
And 75% of Ken Jeong’s characters support my opinion.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
I’m honestly not sure if a lot actually is. Based on movies in the last few years, not even blackface is off-limits.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
But people think things are off-limits, and that makes them feel better. Or worse, depending on the person.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Outsourced: Racist or just stupid?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
False dichotomy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
One defines the other.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Additionally,
I feel like he has tastes the post season success and will be more driven to get back there and prove it was not a fluke.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
He has "tastes" the post-season?
I think you made a spelling error. It’s testes.
The thong is, it happened.
I believe in your conclusions.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Well, Keith Law has never been wrong, so I guess the Giants are pretty much screwed.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Keith Law predictions
ALDS:
Rays over Rangers
Yankees over Twins
NLDS:
Phillies over Reds
Giants over Braves
ALCS:
Rays over Yankees
NLCS:
Phillies over Giants
WS:
Rays over Phillies
in 6
by calbearjd on Nov 23, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how many GMs would love to be in the position to make this same mistake?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LOL
Does KLaw actually think that the Giants have a stud in LF that would block Huff or BBelt? Seriously, it’s a slight overpay, but not when viewed in the light of several things:
1. The Giants have to “win now” – their young and dominant pitching staff is only under control for the next 2 seasons.
2. The FA market shows all of the signs of being white-hot this offseason. Just look at the deals that 2nd-tier players like Buck, VMart, and Benoit already got.
3. The Giants don’t have to give up any draft picks with this signing. Almost every other FA or trade option would have hurt their future competitiveness by costing them a draft pick/picks.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I recall reading KLaw say that he like the Giants/C.Crawford fit, though he admitted it was a longshot.
Proud father of Barry Bonds.
It’s a pipe dream. The reason that the Giants have no chance at getting C. Crawford is the length of the contract, not the yearly salary. Sure, the Giants could pare down players like Ross and Huff to pay Crawford $18-20M per year for a couple of seasons, but they can’t do that over a 6 to 8 year contract. Crawford will get at least 6 years on his contract.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I stopped thinking about Carl Crawford in a Giants uniform when it was revealed that the Angels and the Red Sox had strong interest…
I agree, completely.
Also, walks. Huff’s increased BB% this year was encouraging, as plate discipline is an ‘old player’ skill. Bat speed might decline, but you can still do a lot of good stuff by just not swinging at crap pitches.
I wouldn’t call VMart a second tier player, though. He’s great for a catcher. But his contract is way worse for the Tigers, since he won’t be a catcher when the contract ends. All the age related issues Huff has apply to VMart, but there are injury concerns as well.
I’m fine with this contract.
Gotta love this line of thinking
Huff’s numbers from from ‘02-’05, ‘08, ’10: Total fluke, non-repeatable.
Huff’s numbers from ’06, ’07, ’09: The Real Aubrey Huff
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
as has been covered on this board occasionally
“bad defense at several positions” kind of undermines everything else he has to say. IMO.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
The Klaw is wrong
1. 34 is not old. There is no reason to assume that his numbers will revert to 09.
2. His defense last year was not bad. In fact he was adequate at three positions (RF may be a bit of a stretch but he played it without incident)
3. By resigning him you send a message that your organization will reward you if you deserve it.
No 3 in many ways is the most important. What message would have been sent if they did not match the offer? Huff had an excellent year at a below market rate. So he’s being rewarded. That is something, I suspect, that other ballplayers see. And it may make them more likely to sign with the Giants.
BY the way – I have no problem with Huff playing left. He is servicable out there.
1) It actually is old in baseball terms. Players tend to peak in their late 20’s.
2) Debatable. He’s not a great defender. And KLaw says “his history of bad defense”. You can’t use one year to disprove of a history.
3) No, by re-signing him, you send the message that you think he’ll be worth 22 million dollars over the next two years. That is the only message. You shouldn’t pay people in the future for what they’ve done in the past – you should pay them for what you think they’re going to do.
KLaw and I disagree on this issue, but he certainly has a legitimate point. Aubrey Huff was legitimately one of the worst players in all of baseball in 2009. That’s a big risk.
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Risk
My guess is that Huff was pretty damn unhappy in ’09 and that very well may have impacted his play. I know that is speculation on my part. But its drawn from his comments on how much he enjoyed playing here etc.
On point three – of course you are sending the message that you think he’s worth that. But if you dumped him on what is a relatvely modest sum, I think it would have sent an awful message.
In many ways, Huff was the soul of this team. Losing him would have had a negative impact imo.
My hope is he’s in left if not on Day 1 then by mid May. That leaves 1B for Belt if he’s ready. And I think we will know that by mid May at the latest.
Anyway, I understand your points. I just think the Ginats had to do this one.
I personally don't think it's a bad signing
But it is a risky one. And Huff was probably unhappy in 2008 too, but he had a great year. But when you’re one of the worst players in baseball one year and one of the best in your next, you can’t exactly be counted on for consistency.
So I wouldn’t judge Law too harshly for thinking we should have just let him walk.
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I'm in this line
(ie not bad, but risky) I do wonder what team the Giants matched. I’m guessing eit’s either the Cubs or the Nationals
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How would you say he's the
worst palyer in the league? That is patently ridiculous. Maybe, just maybe, Huff’s “Advanced Metrics” are so INCONSISTENT because Huff is CONSISTENT and the Sabermetrics you are using are WRONG. What Baseball Prospectus is doing now and will continue to do is to use Huff as one of its Comparable Players. From BP’s glossary: “In most cases, the database is large enough to provide a meaningfully large set of appropriate comparables. When it isn’t, the program is designed to ‘cheat’ by expanding its tolerance for dissimilar players until a reasonable sample size is reached.” Guess why they don’t show the guys who are “outliers”? Because these are the guys who they use to “cheat”. Pretty sneaky, Baseball Prospectus.
by HummFingBaby on Nov 30, 2010 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
Not speculation on your part
i’ve heard him say he was miserable and thought about quitting
The thong is, it happened.
You're right on 1 and 2
But I think there is some value to what lexluth was saying on 3. If an organization shows that they are loyal to players who provided value on a low-salary contract in the past, that may encourage buy-low candidates to sign with us, with the hope that a good year will net them a significant raise if they want to stay. I don’t know, but I get the feeling it would help.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
What's the beneift?
Are you saying that players who have had shitty years will want to try to come to SF so that if they have a good year we’ll give them a big contract?
Why would we be excited that we’re the place to be if you’re a player who’s just had a shitty year?
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Because a lot of players who have shitty years then follow them up with great years. Like, say, Aubrey Huff. Or Juan Uribe. Or Pat Burrell. Just sayin’.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Most players who have shitty years
Follow them up with more shitty years.
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depends
This is the thing I despise the most about a lot of SABR minded people. 28 year old has a season well below his career average – he’s unlucky, due for a rebound. 33 year old has a season well below his career average – OMG HE FELL OFF A CLIFF HOW WILL HE EVER RECOVER!!!!.
Players who recovered, off the top of my head – Huff, UUUUUU, Burrell, Rent, Durham.
There is value in low risk high reward candidates. Our World Series was built on low risk high reward candidates. There is value in convincing those kinds of players that this organization will treat them right.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
by Viliphied on Nov 23, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Durham’s recovery was very predictable given BABIP. Renteria didn’t exactly “recover,” at least in the sense of value: in 2010, he was worth 1.3 WAR. Would’ve been better had he not gotten hurt, but that’s part of the deal. He also was hardly a low risk, high reward player, given his contract. Uribe isn’t a very good example, either. He recovered in 2009, which he began as a 29-year old. Much closer to your 28-year old example player than your 33-year old example.
Some mid-30s players recover from bad years, definitely. But most do not.
Also, our World Series was built at least as much on first round draft picks as it was on low risk, high reward players.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
true
but still, it’s REALLY not hard to find a ton of examples of older players who put up bad seasons and immediately recovered the next year.
You’re right that Rent wasn’t really a buy-low guy, but Pat and Huff most definitely were, and my larger point, that being a team players want to sign with because they know they’ll be treated right, still stands
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
that being a team…treated right [is a good thing],
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Debatable. He’s not a great defender. And KLaw says "his history of bad defense". You can’t use one year to disprove of a history.
No you can’t, but Huff also lost weight to play good defense this year unlike every other year of his career, so it’s quite possible that there’s a tangible explanation for his improved defensive play.
This is also something KLaw doesn’t see, or read, when making his snarky -douched assumptions, when going to Huff’s fangraphs page and concluding that he is a horrible defensive player and that last year was an aberration.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Aaron Rowand lost weight this year too
And wasn’t a noticably better defender. Huff’s weight loss is most likely offset by the fact that he’ll be yet another year older and slower.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Well okay...
Huff loses weight and became a good defensive player.
Row-nads lost weight and still sucks.
Does that disprove a possible tangible explanation for improved defensive play? Or does this just confrim to us once again that Row-nads is fail?
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
also
lol @ THIS IS WHAT YOU NERDS CANT SEE ON YOUR SPREADSHEETS.
You realize that Keith Law is a former scout, right?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Made it only to Life though.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Orange naturally, the coolest one
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions -I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Well if so....
He’s not a very good one because Huff’s defense was night and day compared with his AL years.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
And I'd be willing to bet...
That Law saw very little of Huff this year with the Giants and most of his “scouting” on his defense is from AL years.
If Law saw every game Huff played at 1st this year he’d be singing a different tune.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
You realize that Huff's "fangraphs page" actually says that he was a much better fielder this year, right?
But Huff is not fast, he’s not especially athletic, and he’s never been great at defense.
I have no idea why it’s so controversial to say that he won’t play great defense going forward, when he never really has outside of one year and when he’s not getting any younger.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yes, I do, that was my point.
He was +5.7 if I remember right, and Law is concluding that it was an aberration due to “historically bad years previous”, which to me isn’t fair analysis when he doesn’t take into account that Huff lost weight and was lot more athletic this year.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
HOW DARE YOU?
he’s not especially athletic
HE’S THE BEST ATHLETE ON THE TEAM
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I just can’t understand why people are so against Keith Law. Is it merely that if he says one thing that isn’t optimistic about the Giants then people get their panties in a bunch?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 23, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I could care less what he thinks of the Giants
I don’t care for his arrogance and snark in his writing.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
And he really turns it on when talking about the Giants.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
ive found him to give the giants a lot of positive publicity
he likes our scouting system. He loves Posey, Lincecum, and Cain. If anything I would say he has a favorable opinion of our organization, except Sabes and his reluctancy to play rooks
I like him
He’s smart and funny, and I don’t take personally anything he says about the Giants.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I don't like him, but you don't read analysts because you like them
Law strikes me as being one of the smart guys it is worthwhile to read. The snark can be a little heavy, but who cares?
He’s not as smart or as funny as he thinks he is though.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly this
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
yup, this
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
That can be said about most people. Not me of course.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
by ResDog on Nov 23, 2010 9:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I like Keith Law, but I don’t agree that the Giants shouldn’t have signed Huff. I think letting a player walk the year after he helped lead your team to the World Series Championship, when the contract isn’t that absurd and is very short too, would be shitty. Law is high on Belt, which is awesome, but defending World Series champions should bring back the 7th leading MVP vote-getter if it’s for only a 2 year contract for 10 mil a year. We can always put Huff back in LF, or trade him, when Belt proves he’s the second coming of Will Clark.
Yeah, I disagree with Keith Law frequently, but I find him generally to be smart and funny. He has a reason he says things: i.e. first-hand scouting knowledge, a statistical basis, etc.
It seems like too many people automatically “hate” anyone who offers up a dissenting opinion. Law (insert other offending writer) says something unflattering about the Giants, well, screw him.
yes they "peak"
at 26-29… but the peak is not typically very sharp.
Well, rather individual PLAYERS peak very sharpy (Robbie Thompson, etc.) but in the aggregate they don’t. It’s of course, possible that Huff being on the wrong side of 32 has a sudden and immediate collapse, but I don’t think that probability is that high.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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If Andres had figured out how to hit when he was 25 instead of 30
He would have been better.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
this, so much this
Players really do not tend to have sudden and immediate collapses.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
RE-SIGN
MOTHERFUCKERS
RE-FUCKING-SIGN
NOT RESIGN
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I think he's right
Also, he used to have a job working in a front office, and now he doesn’t.
Not implying causation, just implying.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
hmm, Keith Law… the guy who said Braves in 5, Phillies in 6, and Rangers in 6, right?
that’s what I thought, Keith. You’re a stupid, stupid little man.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
lol judging analysts by their predictions in 5 and 7 game series
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
its not the outcome of their predictions… its how they make them in the first place.
seemed like everyone sized up the Giants weak offense and decided there was no way they could win.
It’s beating a dead bird, but case in point is everyone saying what a surprise the Giants were to win it all. Maybe if any of them had paid attention to the Giants pitching during the year, they’d know that teams don’t score off them. Ever.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Hospitals can
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I do agree with you
but one thing I find funny is that all year (and last year) people said “IF the Giants make the playoffs, with their pitching they have a chance” and then once we made the playoffs they stopped singing that tune
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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They didn't say that
but they didn’t really give us much of a shot
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I found it weird how come World Series time the Rangers suddenly became some unstoppable juggernaut. Now, I don’t follow AL clown-ball too much, but all through the season I had them pegged as a pretty good team cruising through an easy division. But as soon as they won the pennant, of course they were going to win it all.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
They were pretty darn good.
In fact, I felt that they underperformed in the regular season because they didn’t have any real competition. If they can lasso some good pitching, they could make it all the way back in the years to come.
they utterly mashed the Yankees
obviously the 2010 NY team was not the 2009 team, especially as to pitching, but man they schooled them.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions
So essentially everyone saw the Rangers as unstoppable because they beat the Yankees in 6 games and put on an offensive show while doing it.
I tend to agree that a lot of pundits saw the Giants as a team “nobody wants to play” in the postseason because of their pitching (and they were right about that — a team with a dominant strikeout staff and a great closer DOES have an advantage in the playoffs). Yet the talk about S.F. as a dangerous team seemed to disappear once they were playing the Phillies and the Rangers. The fact is, it was still true that the Giants had a good chance in every series because of their pitching; they could neutralize more powerful lineups and give themselves a shot in low-scoring games (and as it turned out, that was the NLCS in a nutshell). Analysts who saw other NL teams as having “no shot” at stopping Philly had it completely wrong.
Now, the insane offensive explosion we saw in Games 1 and 2 of the World Series, that was flukey. But Games 3-5 basically returned to the Giants’ winning formula (even if we lost Game 3). I was not surprised at all that this team made a deep postseason run.
I think so, although the “baserunning bonanza” against Tampa, which seemed to involve a lot of Rays players standing around slackjawed, had something to do with it too. I didn’t watch much of that series but what I heard before NYY-TEX seemed to be “oh, the run manufacture leads to offensive fireworks”. And, of course, the unstoppable impregnable guaranteed to win 2 games in the series Cliff Lee.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Good thing they won those two games Lee started against the Giants.
Otherwise we would’ve beat them 4 to -1.
Only slightly.
A notch better in the lineup and a notch better in the rotation, much less of a bullpen.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
But if you think one team is slightly better than the other one…. why wouldn’t you pick the slightly better one to win?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Not disagreeing
Objectively I had Phillies in 7. I would still laugh at anyone who thought Phils in 5 though.
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
The rotations 1-3 were either a wash or the Phillies had the slight advantage (maybe), but we had a legit 4th starter.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I think we had a better rotation when you consider the difference between our 4th starters (and you count Timmy as who he is rather than the sub-standard version of himself his overall 2010 numbers indicate)
by kingofthacove on Nov 23, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
So? He was making the best prediction based on the information he had. It had nothing to do with a rooting interest.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 23, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
so you’re defending every single analyst? cool position brah
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yes....
Neyer is a godsend, Keith Law has never been wrong, and we are all terrible people to question an analysts line of thinking.
Funny how that works.
Analysts are allowed to rip GM’s and managers and players.
But those same analysts are NOT allowed to be questioned! They are always right!
by BustaTheRippa on Nov 23, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
That’s ridiculous. Speaking of ridiculous, why exactly am I feeding the troll?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Nov 23, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
it makes an argument easier if you impute stupid opinions to your opponents
(though, actually you’ll catch one Keith Law doing that from time to time)
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
we're just lucky
that every team we faced happened to enter a horrible slump right when they had to face our pitching…
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
For the record, almost no one expected the Braves to win that series, including Law.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
looking at ESPN.com
They don’t have a prediction up for Law. The only guy who picked the Braves (in 4) was our old friend Pedro Gomez.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I hate Pedro Gomez.
That bastard.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Always Remember our old friend Curt "ketchup" Schilling as well
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
he should always do the opposite of what he thinks he should do.
otherwise, he ain’t gettin’ it right
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Horses ass
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Keith Law is a twerp. I’ve never known that word to describe someone so aptly. Have you seen his non sports blog? For fucks sake, his wanna be taste maker choice of generic indie bands and bourgeois food commentary are slavishly trendy and despite his convicted sales pitch to anyone who will listen, it always comes off dispassionate. An opinionated prick with no genuine opinion of his own.
yeah, dude!
because all hipsters are slavishly devoted to discussing board games!
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/74055
Jeez, relax a little.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Dude, chill. PERHAPS SHOOTING BASKETBALL, BUT INSTEAD OF BASKETBALLS YOU WOULD PREFER TO USE PENGUINS?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LOL WIIWARE GAMES
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I'm awaiting the release of the midget tossing game.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Nov 23, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
What a dick.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I normally agree with KLaw
but I think he’s ~wrong about this one. It might be a small error/overpay to get Huff. It’s quite possible that he regresses. But the same could be said of ALL the comparable talents at 1B/LF out there. And is Belt ready? Probably he’d be fine. He’d also probably be fine stashed in AAA for a year. In fact, for 2011 – I am pretty sure that Belt will NOT project to outhit Huff.
Now, he’s only partially wrong – because the frugal thing to do would be to let Huff go, start Belt at 1B, sign umpty-six possibly decent LFs for cheap and hope one of them outplays the dreaded Rowand/Scheirholtz platoon (assuming you can’t rely on Tendons McFloppy). I agree that would probably give you the same aggregate performance of the Huff contract and save you a few million Maybe even $5M. It’s also probably higher variance – and I think that given the solidity of the Giants starting pitching, you would probably rather control variance a little.
I also question the thinking that Huff is due to regress significantly. 2010 was not particuarlly flukey. He regained his career level in BABIP (and commensurate increases in BA/SLG) and increased his BB rate. Increasing BB rate is one thing “old” players are supposed to do. Is he going to put up another ~6 WAR (5.5 with the bat) season? Probably not, no. But that season was worth $22M/year – not the $10M he was awarded. $10M is what you would expect to pay an average 2.0WAR player on the FA market. And I think that’s more like his floor than his ceiling. I think he’s also wrong about 34 yo’s collaping. Once a solid ML peaks, he tends to be pretty flat until he collapses. It’s not like he’s 38 or something. What IS true is that typically players don’t IMPROVE between 33-34 (or 32-33 for that matter), but at 2/$20+$2 we are just asking him to be decent.
Huff – who can play BOTH LF/1B passably is actually a hedge against Belt being unready or no valid decent LF being forthcoming. I guess from an zero competition perspective we can say that the Giants would be better to save all their pennies and lock up Crawford or Werth for 6 years – then gamble on Belt at 1B and some SS pulled out of your ass.
But I think the latter is a big gamble, and presumes that the Giants don’t horribly overbid on the best FA outfielders.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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by zenbitz on Nov 23, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Worst Mistakes a GM Can Make after Winning the World Series
#43 – Polishing the Championship Trophy a little too… passionately.
Susan! More elbow grease!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I don't understand
The whole Huff has a history of bad defense blah blah blah. He’s no Travis Ishikawa at 1B and he ain’t Nate in the OF but jeez he’s not Adam Dunn out there either. He’s passable defensively, even at some points above average defensively. I’m kind of sick of the rep that he gets for being a bad defender when he really wasn’t.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Huff
stoked for the Giants and for AH, like to see B. Belt gets some reps along the veteran as well….
Shift A
So Huff is gonna be paid to play at his career norms. Yeah I can live with that for his age 34 and 35 seasons.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
You know the Giants' bandwagon is full when...
you’re sitting in the office (you work in IT btw) and you hear a group of Indian dudes chatting it up in some sort of Indian language, and all you can make out is “Giants” and “Aubrey Huff”.
Dude we all have to start somewhere. How many Italians in North Beach do you think were talking about the Giants in the 50’s in Italian? Probably a lot, and now I am a fan b/c of one of them.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I wrote that wrong. It wasn’t supposed to be a hateful remark. It actually brought a smile to my face.
Definitely.
When something, anything, good can transcend cultures like that, it’s beautiful.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Yes
I liked that story too.
It made me happy.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
something something something in Italian…..Joe Dimaggio….something something something in Italian.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 23, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
OIC
New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said Tuesday that the Yankees have made a “fair and appropriate” contract offer to Derek Jeter and suggested that if the 36-year-old shortstop thinks otherwise, he should shop himself around to find out.
“We understand his contributions to the franchise and our offer has taken them into account,” Cashman told ESPNNewYork.com. “We’ve encouraged him to test the market and see if there’s something he would prefer other than this. If he can, fine. That’s the way it works.”
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
The contract they offered is at 3/45. If he wants more I rather re-sign Uribe.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
if on the other hand, he would take less to spite the Yankees, then Derek Jeter come on down!
(Note: I fully appreciate that this will never happen. Ever.)
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 23, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know
his agent may not know what he’s doing.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sesame Street jumped the shark when they made it all about Elmo. It used to be intelligent programming for young children, but the Elmo segments are as mindless as anything on TV.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Oh, man, Sesame Street of the late 70s/early 80s when I was learning to talk? Amazing.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Early ’70s were better. It was like learning your ABCs from the neighborhood acid casualty. Literally.
ELECTRIC COMPANY > SESAME STREET.
Oh, now it’s on.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm. Watching the intro theme to EC for the first time in 35 years, you may be right.
by non sequitur on Nov 24, 2010 6:04 AM PST up reply actions
one had Spider-Man
the other had Mr. Hooper. Not really a close call.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:28 AM PST up reply actions
MR HOOPER IS DEAD
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 24, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions
One of the first books I can remember seeing around our house:
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Dealing with Grief
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
I was going to suggest that.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 27, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
I loved Spider-Man, but I don’t even remember which show he was on (I did watch both regularly). I loved the way he would “talk”. Instead of speaking, he struck a “talking” pose, and a (blank?) dialog balloon would appear over his head. As a kid I found this intriguing.
by non sequitur on Nov 24, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
Electric Company dude.
Admittedly the pieces were not as fun (since I think the EC commies had a no-punching rule) but awesome.
Also the syllable + syllable = word song things.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
I loved the word song things — I vaguely recall them being accompanied by Rorschach test-like graphics.
Re: Spidey. They did a live action TV series in the 70s, with Nicholas Hammond as Peter Parker and a saxophone-y intro theme. That was a lot of fun!
by non sequitur on Nov 24, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
I remember the songs with silhouetted faces of the cast: remember, people like Rita Moreno and Morgan Freeman, although who cared at the time. Way, way, way too many times to count, I have been in a boring meeting or very angry at something and started making those songs in my head. “Bull….shite…bullshite!”
I used to like “Letterman” too…
It featured the vocal talents of Zero Mostel, Joan Rivers (who narrated the segments), and Gene Wilder (most of the time).
Again, who knew.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
"rorschach"
Yes, the silhouetted faces. I dope-ily think of them as Rorschach tests because you could see them as silhouetted faces on the sides of the screen or as a vase in the middle of the screen.
by non sequitur on Nov 24, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
That show was chock-full of stuff like that which was probably intended to warp our minds in all kinds of ways.
I always assumed it was to show the mouth movements used in making the words, particularly for non-native speakers. Dirty commies.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Remember "Love of Chair"?
I still occasionally ask “And what about…Naomi?”. Usually people ignore me so I know they didn’t grow up on Electric Company like I did. Losers.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 24, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Since I grew up in the Philippines, I probably got early 70s Street.
Anywho, WE ALL LIVE IN A CAPITAL I
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
I heard Cowherd on this yesterday
What was being bantied about is that Jeter can’t get near what he is seeking on the open market so the Yankees are calling his bluff.
If you are anyone but the Yankees there is no way you are paying a 36 year old SS with below average range coming off an average, at best, year offensively $45 million over three, much less the 80 over 4 that he is supposedly seeking.
Yeah, but if they’re just calling his bluff they could just let it all play out behind the scenes. I think we all agree that Jeter won’t get 4 years or more for anything above $10M per year from any other team besides the Yanks. Why would Cashman go to the press if he didn’t feel that Jeter might actually walk away in the end?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
so you are the guy who listens to cowherd
jeezus…i hate that guy
go him, sports is a few teams in college football, the ncaa basketball tourney, the nfl, a few teams in the nba…and the world series
he couldnt even be bothered to learn how to pronounce lincecum
Funny ...
I swear I’ve heard maybe 20 minutes of Cowherd in my life. I got sick of KNBR talking about Mike Singletary and changed the station. Right as he was talking to some guy about Jeter.
Cowherd was also the guy that said Kuiper's call of the Giants winning the WS
was factually incorrect. Cowherd thought Kuip’s call was misleading at best. A caller corrected him by telling him that Kuip was referencing the Giants time IN SF, not since their last WS victory.
Cowherd has a point on this, but the fact that he couldn’t do the math and figure out what Kuip was talking about was kind of weak.
HE'S A COWHERD
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I’ll admit, at first I thought Kuip had gotten the biggest moment wrong too, due to the context in which he said it the first thing I thought was “um, it’s been a little longer than that, buddy”
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
Honestly I'd rather sign Rent than Jeter
They hit about the same last year, and Rent was a better defender
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My new laundry agrees!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
It’s rather epic, no?
Edgar Renteria – WORLD SERIES MVP for the SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS
Got it at mlb.com and was able to take 25% off one item so it was $14.78 before shipping.
I am pleased with my purchase.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
This is one of those things a person never, ever, expects to see.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I busted it out of my backpack yesterday at the pub and held it up proudly.
“That’s the most unlikely t-shirt of ALL-TIME” someone said.
I had to agree.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Wow!
I can believe that Cashman feels this way, just not that he’s saying it to the press for public consumption. This tells me that they Yankees have some belief that Jeter will turn down their offer and walk away from the team, so they’re trying to get out in front of the publicity disaster.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Exactly
3/45 is very different from what Jeter is looking for:
Sources told ESPNNewYork.com last week that Jeter is seeking a minimum of four more years and perhaps as much as six more, at approximately $20 million per season.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Spoiled by the Yankee regime
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
He’s like this year’s Johnny Damon (way over-valuing himself/under-estimating his age)
The funny thing for me is, he’s not completely off in thinking that he’s worth a lot to the Yankees, in that he’s a brand and they can still make lots of money off him. But that’s only for the Yankees. His brand significantly decreases if he goes somewhere else.
But really, is 15M a year really that awful an offer??
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
The crazy thing to me in the Damon drama last offseason was that the Tigers actually gave Damon an no-trade clause in his contract. What were they thinking? It’s not like he had any leverage at the time.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Very true, but then again, who’d want him?
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
the Yankees, maybe
after Nick Johnson, hero of McC, exploded.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve honestly never been much of a Nick Johnson supporter. Guy is made of Saltines.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
I had hope
He played a full productive year in 09, and a lot of his injuries had been total flukes -crashing into a guy in the infield, etc.
Glad to’ve been wrong.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Mike Murphy's law:
If someone is productive, yet injury prone, career-wise, but is coming off a productive, injury-free season, and the Giants sigh him, dude is gonna fall the fuck apart.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Both were trades. I said “sign”. Well, actually, I said “sigh,” but I meant sign. SIGN.
Now stop trying to poke holes in a theory that it took me exactly 1.5 minutes to think of and post.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Wiki says:
In his two months with the Giants, Winn equaled his career record for home runs in a season. For his outstanding performance in the month of September, Winn was named National League Player of the Month; he recorded 51 hits and had a batting average of .447. Winn’s 51 hits were the most in one month by a Giant in over 30 years. Winn had a career-high hitting-streak which was 20 games. He signed a 3 year, $23.25M contract extension with the Giants the following offseason
Extension!
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
This is also true
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t Marquis Grissom really good for us at one point?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
depends on what counts as "really good," I guess
2003: 2.8 WAR
2004: 0.6 WAR
2005: -2.0 WAR
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
But the Giants won the World Series! Things are different now!
Er, I’m actually not sure if I’m being sarcastic or sincere when I say that. I am so confused and happy.
Also Barry Bonds broke Mike Murphy’s Law, but I’m also pretty sure he can break the laws of thermodynamics so…
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
That’s so racist!
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Triscut Rosemary & Olive Oil FTW !
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions -I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
Buster Posey is my preferred cracker.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Nicely Done Sir !
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions -I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
OM NOM NOM
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Actually, the Tigers were trying to trade him in August, but he told them he wouldn’t go to the BoSox (remember they were decimated by injuries).
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Seriously? I expect better out of you, Epstein.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
They needed any warm body at that point of the season. Don’t forget they were still well within range of the wildcard as late as the middle of September. Also, Damon would have cost them next to nothing at that point – a PTBNL at most.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
It’s ridiculous how long the Sox lasted considering their injury issues. Half their lineup and half their rotation went down pretty much all at the same time and they didn’t tank.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
I remember not wanting him last year
But I think he’d be a good buy low candidate this year
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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It’s actually nice. The Yankee’s refusing to spend money is always greta.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Van Susteren?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I LOL’d
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
C’mon, Epstein.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
This would be pretty amazing if it happened (it won’t), because I’d love to see how quick all the Yankees fans and New York press would be to fall all over themselves to talk about how over-hyped Jeter is. You know, when they get through calling him a traitor.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Aubrey Huff was voted the 7th Most Valuable Player in the National League in 2010.
He was probably even more valuable than that. In the short term, he fills an immediate need at first base, in the long term, he can move into the outfield in the long term. He is currently 33, but this is only two year deal.
Also
Also
Also
Also
In conclusion, I think this was a good deal.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
by GiantBrass on Nov 23, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
Agreed.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Lol Bochy!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Add this for a reasonable contract and its perfect
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
by ejdacanay on Nov 23, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Everything about this picture is perfect.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
This would’ve been a mind-blowing picture to e-mail to ourselves back in August.
by Every6thDay on Nov 23, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Wait? Is that Bengie Molina? Catching for the Rangers? Why are the Giants playing the Rangers!?
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Someone said that with a different screencap, that had Posey at bat, and the Fox World Series graphics on the screen. Awesome.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 23, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
LOL CHOOCH. The Little Engine That Couldn’t.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Is Bochy smelling his fingers?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
LOL
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
My computer just broke.
I love the first gif though because I remember how that happened- Kinsler thought there was no way Huff was going to be able to scoop that ball.
Huff: “Fuck that.”
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
AMEN
What’s the WORST that can happen? He starts sucking, looses his power and becomes an expensive PH guy like Rowand while Belt plays in his place. Not a terrible risk for the WS Champs!
What's the worst that could happen?
The Giants not winning the 2011 World Series? pfft… I’m good for at least another decade. Give me the rally thong.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
Back to Back championships
Fuuuu, I’d be good for half the century.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Now let's not get too hasty...
A decade is my absolute limit on anything sports related right now.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
What's that I hear? The Giants are World Champions?
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 23, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
They really do look like lovers. It’s eerie.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ha!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I love this photo so much.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 23, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
This is absolutely the least unusual sight in San Francisco … except it’s a pair of world champion GIants.
I mean, the shades, the hair—it’s like Saturday Night at Squat N Gobble.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Is it just me?
Or did this team just have ridiculously more than its fair share of “awww” moments?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Modern Family
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
My Name's Forrest, Forrest Gump
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Nov 23, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Rent is pretty awesome as well….
What game was this?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like Coors Field on the dugout. That may help narrow it down.
"It’s like being a kid when you get orange slices and kool-aid, except tonight we’re nailing champagne" - Wilson
"I want to hug Uribe. I want to hug Posey. I want to hug everyone." - Torres
"It's gonna get weird tonight." - Huff
Ugh. Those hats.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
July 3, 2010
Huff hits 2R HR top 9th inning – Giants beat Rockies 11-8
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=300703127
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Now I'm watching that game again because I can
Oh god, Zito is pitching.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Oh whoa
This was one of those weird games where Buster was at catcher, Ishikawa was at first, and Huff was in Left Field.
That setup lasted like 3 games IIRC.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
oh man, that was the series where Fowler got in base 17 times in 4 games. Kruk and Kuip were debating at the time whether it set some kind of record for a 4 game series. never found out if it did.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Warned about an OT above: but I can't resist this....
LONDON – Its processor works 1,000 times slower than the Apple iPad, but the first ever Apple computer has sold for 425 times the price.
The Apple I, one of only 200 such models ever made, was sold Tuesday afternoon at Christie’s auction house in central London for 133,250 pounds (about $210,000.) It came with its original packaging and a signed sales letter from Steve Jobs, one of Apple Computer’s co-founders and the current CEO of Apple Inc.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101123/ap_on_hi_te/eu_britain_apple_auction
I just want to know which of you nerdz bought this…
Just found this out
And everyone else probably already knows, but the Giants won the World Series on 11/01/10 or in binary code 110110, which means 54.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
That’s cool
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
But how does it tie in with the Templars and Nostradamus?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
that was in Verducci’s Sportsman of the Year article in which he nominated the Giants, right?
well written. I too, have a Giants-fanatic-former-20-year-season-ticketholder-family-member who died in June this year. He’d been a fan since they moved out West back in the ’50s.
I wish he could have seen this.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
This just in...
Giants are inviting STHs to have their photo taken with the Commissioner’s Trophy the week of 12/6 – 12/11.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Season ticketholders.
So yes.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
OT: "The Sith are extinct. They have been for nearly a millenium"
So Yoda was 0-2 vs. siths. I’m becoming less impressed with that little green guy every day.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
that's because
Lucas screwed the pooch and gave Yoda a teeny tiny lightsaber. The Yoda that trained Luke needed not such crude weapons. Palpy and Dookie never should have been able to stand with him.
Also, why did Yoda steal Mork from Ork’s spaceship?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
you're right
900 years of sample isn’t enough to go by.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
3rd jedi at best
you ever been on a real shrimpin' boat?
no, but i've been on a real big boat
by Larry Bamar on Nov 23, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
//tries to figure out how to get on the Goofus’ family Christmas card list….
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Horrible things...
unspeakable things…
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
I thought they started last week.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I just got email today—perhaps they’re being done in batches? There’s like 28,000 STH, so maybe as many as 12,000 accounts (I’m guessing).
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I just got my email!
We’re going 12/9 and I’ve got a boner that probably won’t go away until then
Trying to decide what to wear; I’m thinking Giants sweatshirt and a Santa hat
The thong is, it happened.
Don't forget to wear the boner too... classy.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
that might just fit in with the rest of the lot of ’em
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Contracts shouldn't be retroactive.
He was a bargain last year and a key figure, but the next two he’ll be neither of these. Justifying this is almost as bad as Grant saying Zito was worth every penny because they won the world series. Just because they won the big one, doesn’t mean it’s now ok to make bad deals.
I, Destructo, wrote this comment.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed
I,DestructoDestro, wrote this comment.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Justifying this is almost as bad as Grant saying Zito was worth every penny because they won the world series.
Hahaha. I can’t believe how many people missed the point of that one. I’m still getting e-mails.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Do an email segment. I’ll pay money
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
Dear Grant,
I am a contributor to the new sports/comedy website PMsports.com and I see a lot of continuity between McCovey Chronicles and PMSports. I thought you might be interested in checking out our most recent video: http:// pmsports.com/videos/Coed-Caddies-Golf-Sexy-Girls-Tiger-Woods.
We’d love to set up a cross-promotion, too.
Thanks, Francis
Dear Francis,
It’s never easy being attracted to your brother’s wife, especially when he’s away fighting for our freedom! Temptation is a wily foe. The first thing to do is to stop feeling guilty for being curious. You should only feel guilty for acting on these impulses. Send me a picture of your sister-in-law, and I’ll be able to advise you further.
Sincerely,
McCovey Chronicles
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Where will they sign? How much will they sign for? Login today and post your 2011 free agent predictions.
http ://www.fan – exchange.com
Dear Fan Exchange,
It is never okay to leave your baby in the car, even if you’re just going to pick up some cigarettes. People won’t know that you’re only planning to be gone for a few minutes, and they’ll freak out on you.
But if you just leave him at home, strapped into a car seat and locked in a bathroom, no one will be the wiser! That’s why you ask for three or four car seats before the baby shower.
Sincerely,
McCovey Chronicles
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Guys – Love your site. We posted a fan letter to Brian Wilson from a female admirer that we wondered if you guys were interested in posting on your end: http: somecrappysite.com
Let me know.
Thanks,
MJ
Dear MJ,
That is actually a clinical fear with an actual name: pteronophobia. What you need to do is remind yourself that tickling with feathers is something that happens in cartoons, not real life. Still, you should ease your mind by having a strategy in case someone approaches you with a feather and the intent to tickle you — for example, you could try to swallow the feather, which would prevent any further attempts at tickling.
Also, prescription drugs would probably help. Check with your doctor, and you might get a free, pharmaceutical-sponsored pen out of it!
Sincerely,
McCovey Chronicles
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You were talking about Goofus and the tape measure video, right?
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, most of them are from one person.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
/fires off a terse email criticizing the Zito comment
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
COOL STORY, BRO
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
the overpay is about 4 mil
and his contract is ez to trade
he is no longer a bargain….but if he holds to his career numbers…its a solid signing
this isnt the zito contract
Dave Cameron disagrees
d_a_cameron David Cameron
2/22 for Aubrey Huff is a no-trade clause. RT @jonmorosi: Huff’s contract with #SFGiants does not include a no-trade clause, source says
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Love the Bloom County reference. I still remember the exact panel you’re referring to, even!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I could make one every post. My brain is filled with Bloom County, Calvin and Hobbes, Peanuts, and Far Side beyond the point of reason. There’s probably even some B.C. and Herman in there.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Peanuts, Bloom County, Far Side, Dilbert, Doonesbury. I’ve never regularly followed Bizarro but every time I see it, I like it.
As much as I liked Bloom County, however, I never got into Outland. Actually I think I was confused by it, and Opus’ reappearance there.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
i never got into Outland either
never seemed to have the charm of Bloom County
The thong is, it happened.
or Marmaduke!?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
or Sherman’s Lagoon?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
man
that Chronicle funny page is a lot of things, but not funny.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been waiting years for Grant to make a Mark Trail reference.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
That was pretty funny punchline...
I mean, for a bird who must be about a mile in the background.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
So do I. When it’s not funny, it’s dumb. But it’s never really stupid dumb. Just harmless dumb.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Never Forget
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Alcoholism and wife-beating don't have the same humorous overtones that they once had
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
The comic may have reached it's nadir, but these are still awesome
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions -I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
I'm with you on the Herman love
Wait… that doesn’t sound right.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I can’t believe I missed that on the first read. I feel like a terrible person. Bloom County deserves better from me, and Berke Breathed, I heartily apologize for my sins. Please start drawing comics again.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
LOL
I’m 29 and what is this?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
AT&T was the Evil Empire. The trust busting of the company into the Baby Bells (1984, I think) would have happened in the first few years of Bloom County’s existence.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
No Bill the Cat references?
ACK!
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Logic need not be brought into this conversation
We just ended what will probably go down as the greatest sports season of my life. Everything, and I mean everything was perfect. It was so special in every way, words can’t describe it. Years from now, with my dying breaths, I will look back upon the 2010 season and smile.
Because of this, I would have to say that it would absolutely kill me to see Huff or Uribe in another uniform this season. I am not ready to let it go; I want to hold onto it for a little longer. So, please Brian, overpay.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
The year doesn't end until April.
The year doesn’t end until a flag with the number ‘2010’ is flying from the highest point in Mays Field. The year doesn’t end until multiple 2010s are painted on the mural to the left of the Lefty O’Doul gate. The year doesn’t end until I get a picture with the trophy. The year doesn’t end until the rings are handed out.
The year doesn’t end until April. Then, the next year begins.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
when does the year end again? i lost track…
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Whoa
Each team has beaten the team immediately following it, going clockwise, this season. The score of the game is listed in the winning teams color.
IT GOES ON FOREVER.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Who in the actual fuck figured that out?
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
You’re welcome.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I also created the internet when I was like 5.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, connecting all those tubes must have taken forever.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My parents believe in child labor.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome that Al Gore is on MCC
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Al Gore invented the internet jokes?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Al Gore invented the invented the internet jokes
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/eaj6n/the_nfls_circle_of_life/
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I posted this in the other Huff thread...
Entering Week 12, 19 teams are within 1 game of 1st in their divisions, most at this point in NFL history.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
In the other thread? I don’t see one.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
BUUUUUUUUUURRNNNNNNNN
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Oh. You were making fun of me. My only response is to point out that you smell like poop.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
You should have left it alone. You had the perfect response before.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
LOL DENVER!
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
by ResDog on Nov 23, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/Rec'd
(KC Fan)
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Its been a difficult year
to be a Broncos fan living in Nor Cal
But on up side, its been a very good year to be a Giants fan
Staunch Defender of Cake
I don’t get all of the calls for Tebow. Orton is not the problem on that team. I say he is one of the few bright spots.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Orton is not the problem
Much like the 49ers the problem is a coach who think he is a genius, that in reality is an idiot. McDaniels has turned a team that two years ago was loaded with young offensive talent and was a few pieces short on defense, into a pass only team with NO defense what so ever.
Staunch Defender of Cake
We are in agreement.
The only difference is I enjoy the destruction.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Hi! I’m in this line.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap
That is impressive yet a massive waste of time.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
OBLIGATORY
LOL NINERS
for losing to Carolina and making the graph cyclic.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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GB FTW
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later
/[makes squish gesture]
get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you vote “yes” or vote “no.” You vote “meh,”
/[makes squish gesture]
just like grape. Understand?
To be fair...
sometimes the sidewalks aren’t very well lit and there aren’t any cars in the road…
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
WOW, haven’t seen that yet. :P
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
I love this sentence.
Ace Tim Lincecum may have posted four of the Giants’ 11 postseason wins while outdueling Derek Lowe, the only man to win three clinchers in one postseason, and Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee, who combined had been unbeatable in the postseason (8-0, 1.11) before they ran into Lincecum.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
by scout6 on Nov 23, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOLDoc
LOLee
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
To pull a Cody Ross
Timothy Leroy Lincecum = Oh Lee, Roy. Timmy! Clint cum?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Who the hell is Clint?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I don't know, Eastwood?
I was confused, too.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It's not a name
It’s a song!
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
someone posted a FanShot.
It’s a really nicely written article. I recommend it.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
/signed: T. Verducci
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
What a great article
Goose bumps. So well done.
I remember those books.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
They are my Sportsmen of the Year because they represent sport at its best: when it transcends mere wins and losses to become the mortar that joins generations, families, communities and cultures.
:’)
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
There never will be another parade quite like that one. In Boston, 2007 was nothing like 2004. This year was the start of something — a real, true baseball town — but it also was the end of something — the yearning for a first time. And by that measure, there never will be a team quite like this one in San Francisco.
So much bittersweet in that. As happy as I was when the Giants won the WS, I will always, always regret that I had no way to be in SF when it happened.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Eh, it’s still gonna be a damn good party if it happens.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
it also was the end of something — the yearning for a first time.
oh god i think i’m crying.
It’s not a wheel. It’s a carousel.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
OT: LOL AJ
not offered arb by the AL Chicago White Sox
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Oh, and just for fun
You can all go browse where we were a year ago on this:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/1/11/1244972/giants-sign-aubrey-huff
Grant:
Ryan Garko is a similar risk at a similar price, but his right-handed bat was more likely to play well in San Francisco. Again, this is another reminder of the silly, silly player evaluation going on in the front office. The difference between “sure, we’ll trade our #3 pitching prospect for him” and “cut him loose” is a month’s worth of at-bats. That’s just amazing. I wasn’t a huge Garko believer — I kind of find the optimism of recent projection systems to be amusing, if not ridiculous — but he was cheap, cheap, cheap. And with a built-in left-handed complement and defensive replacement already on the roster, Garko made a ton of sense. Huff makes, oh, a little sense, but only when you accept that Garko wasn’t ever part of the plan.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 23, 2010 1:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
YOU COULD HAVE REMOVED FP THIS ENTIRE TIME?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
by scout6 on Nov 23, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Aw, Runz
SF_Giants San Francisco Giants
Did u know Giants LHP Dan Runzler played on 3 teams in 2010 that won championships? #SFGiants SJGiants & Scottsdale Scorpions #YearOfTheRunz
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He didn’t actually play for SJ during their postseason run though.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
No he was on the Braves
Sorry, I had to be a smart ass there
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Are you sure #YearOfTheRunz is referring to Dan Runzler and not Taco Bell?
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
So, can't Belt play OF too?
And might he not be a better option than Huff. To these eyes, Huff did well in the OF last year, but Belt is young and apparently athletic and fast-ish.
Uhh... what just happened?
Ask me about my... Machine.
/auto-anti-defenestrates?
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Nov 23, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions
Word on the street is, no: he’s got the instincts for 1B, not for the OF. You have a potential Ishikawa-like glove at 1B — not worth much, but something — versus Burrell in the OF. Take Ishikawa.
I’d say if Belt had a Ishikawa glove that would be worth a lot.
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Defense at 1B is pretty overrated, unless you are an absolute butcher. But yes, the scouting consensus seems to be that Belt has the potential to be as good as Ishi at 1B. Key word ‘potential’ — unlike some of the team’s no-hit-all-glove SS prospects, Belt is not there yet. Nobody, however, projects him to be Carl Crawford in LF. So I say, leave him at 1B and see what he can learn.
Maybe I was overrating 1B defense.
I’m just excited to hear that our 1B prospect can hit AND has a potentially great glove!
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I'm excited, but a lot less than most
Belt at 1B goes up against a whole different class of hitter than Posey at C, and while his 2010 was amazing, his college career was such that he slid to the 5th round as a C-grade guy with sleeper potential. If I were running the Giants I would plan to keep him in Fresno for absolutely all of 2011 unless he completely destroys the league.
How does he compare with other top 1B prospects?
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sounds right
..though I don’t expect either Hosmer or Belt to turn into Joey Votto.
You could argue that Freddie Freeman is ahead of him
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Stacking against his position.
How he stacks (projected) against the other first baseman in the league is not the point to me. The point is how he stacks against other first baseman in the organization. If he’s the best they have, he needs to play.
If he hits in the spring and continues to do so at Fresno, I’d call him up. Unless the Giants are so stacked at first and left that they don’t need him. And I doubt that will be the case.
as I recall
Belt had some signability issues – I remember a lot of folks here being surprised when we managed to get him – so that may have contributed to his fall in the draft as well.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
belt says he can
and i lay odds that the org puts him in left for the first two months at fresno…just to see if he can
if his d is solid, opens up tons of possibilites
Athletic, yes
But I certainly wouldn’t call him fast
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Meh
We have already have Belt seemingly ready to contribute next year.
Yes, Huff can shift to the OF but we already have two overpaid mediocre outfielders in Rowand and DeRosa. I’m not saying that they should start either one those two but Huff is 34 and probably will regress next year. I’m not really looking forward to adding another one to our logjam of overpaid outfielders.
Our biggest need is still at SS and Sabean is probably waiting to pounce on Uribe…
I know the Giants just won the World Series but we can’t we be greedy and ask for MOAR? I’m still kinda pissed about 2002. Imagine a mini dynasty of 2 titles in 8 years. (kidding)
belt is not a sure thing
but lets say the giants do call him up come may….huff’s contract is not so large as he cannot be moved
giants must dump rowand
derosa is still a question mark
and will burrell return?
and is there any money left to resign uribe?
eff the super-2 bs
posey wasted 2 months at fresno because of it
belt wont be kept down because of it
he will be kept down to work on lf d skills (i hope)
giants have 2 cheap and good bench players in nate and travis
their only big question mark right now is the left side of the if….and its huge
sabean has a week to sign uribe….gonna be hard
Why a week? It’s really up to Uribe whether or not he wants to come back…Giants will make him a fair offer…if he thinks he’s better elsewhere…fine…
have to tender and accept offer by dec 2
thats what i mean by a week
Nate and Travis are cheap
Not sure we can call them “good,” or at least I’m not ready to. They’re basically both replacement level, or slightly above.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
travis led the team in ph hits
nate has the best defense of all the ofs
that is what i call good
Didn’t Torres play better defense than Nate?
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nate has a better gun
torres has more range
he had to…he was covering for both burrell and guillen
Posey wasted two months
Maybe. But maybe not. It is quite possible that those two months with Decker were key to his development. In the end, its hard to argue with the result.
Contridiction?
I know the Giants just won the World Series but we can’t we be greedy and ask for MOAR?
I would argue that counting on Belt to be your opening day 1B instead of Huff would have been the taking the cheap route, as opposed to really going for another title.
In my opinion, Belt should be frosting on the cake and not someone we assume to be mlb-ready right now.
The thong is, it happened.
yeah considering
his K rate in AAA was >30%. It’s only 60 PAs though.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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In conclusion:
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Nov 23, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
When you win a world series, you can resign arguably your team MVP for a little extra
Im happy
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
Swing at first pitch clause
Glad he’s going to be sticking around, but as the season progresses and in the inevitable post season, Huff should have to pay for failing to swing at first pitches that are called strikes, or for my blood pressure medicine.
GiantOrange
Kidding right?
His patience is one of his strong suits.
It’s too bad he didn’t swing at a Tommy Hunter first pitch inside fastball in game 4…
If you take enough first pitches you get more fat first pitches and every now and then you can crush one, like say to give your team the lead in game four of the world series to go up 3-1.
by busterbarelyevenknowher on Nov 23, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
H Daddy looks fit.
SFGiants
Aubrey Huff flew to San Francisco this morning and visited St. Anthony’s Dining Hall. #SFGiants http://twitpic.com/39kbai
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
by esseffgeez on Nov 23, 2010 1:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Awww
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 23, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
whoa.
Wait a minute. I don’t remember him being that thin. Or that young-looking. Is this for the contract?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Aprons are slimming.
Also in certain cases, a 34 year-old wearing a backwards cap isn’t a pathetic and futile attempt to look younger!
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
It's really cool that he's taking the time right after he got a huge contract
To go to a food bank. Really classy move, Aubrey. Randy approves.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He is indeed the complete package.
[ While we’re on the subject of his package… ;) ]
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
f*ing REC'D
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
awwwwwwwww
Just about sums it up.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Aw, I love that guy
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
whoah
My uncle ran the kitchen at St Anthony’s for a while. Too bad he doesn’t work there anymore.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
also
Huff continues to be awesome.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Ya know, I tried to volunteer at some food kitchens and they made it incredibly difficult. All I wanted to do was help. What they gave me was the runaround. It was very frustrating.
That is all.
Good on you, Huff.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So,
Hamilton is AL MVP huh?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I'm so tired of his act
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Yeah,
He needs to add some juggling or something.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Then maybe some trick knife throwing.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
LION THROWING!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
This would be AWESOME
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
i would pay to see that
make it happen
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
He's not really throwing.
If you put up nameless Lions Quarterback #2365 then maybe.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
SHAUN HILL
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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JUSS WINZZZZ
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
At least write some new jokes!
/Eddie Izzarded
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Does ESPN realize how stupid their own writers are?
Hamilton ended up winning MVP honors for his play in the ALCS. The BBWAA MVP is voted on before postseason play begins, but the six-game series showed how valuable he is to the Rangers.
He won the award with post season play even thought the votes were already sent in.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
hot tub time machine voters FTW!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
ALCS MVP
I think the writer means that Hamilton was voted ALCS MVP as well.
Maybe,
but he covered that much earlier in the article. Even then it was a weird place for a callback to it.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Lance Berkman wants to be next year's Aubrey Huff
I think the A’s might be smart to sign him.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I still see him going to the Rangers
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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That could work too
Frankly, I think just about any team would be smart to sign him. His worst season ever came with a .360 OBP, and he’ll be cheap.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
but will he play, across the bay, from teh gays?
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
/skips to the conclusion
//celebrates
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 23, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions
Wasn't Huff worth 5.7 WAR last year?
If you assume $4 million per WAR, then Huff was worth nearly $23 million last year. Which means any WAR he gives us over the next two years comes for free!
Plus the Giants won the 2010 World Series.
Time for the press conference
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/live
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
preferably after Super 2 deadline, by 2 weeks just to be safe. Don’t want to get Jay Bruced.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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this
i though we’d been over this with the posey incident this year
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
We should make it a full month after the predicted cutoff.
The Super 2 line keeps on shifting later and later.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Are you Frodo’s envious but ultimately incompetent hobbit brother whose insecurity and ego drives you to betray the Shire?
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
It’s not like Frodo did anything…relied on everyone else…couldn’t even get rid of the ring on his own…
Good point. I was watching that movie recently, and I had completely forgotten that, in the end, Frodo refuses to destroy the ring. And, on a side note, I’m pretty sure Aubrey Huff would destroy that ring.
by Rhapsody in Teal on Nov 23, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Am I in the chasm or did you misunderstand the entire trilogy?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
You misunderstood the entire trilogy.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So, yes.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Well and if you are just taking your understanding from the movies… not the same, not the same at all.
The characters are not quite the same in the movies. Too much mushy mushy between Arwen and Aragorn. Faramir’s character didn’t come off too well, and Glorfindel got hosed. If I recall correctly the relationship between Samwise and Frodo in the 3rd movie was also tweaked, in a way I didn’t care for.
The point that you missed?
Since no one else seems to want to take a crack at this:
A great part of Tolkien’s trilogy has significant meaning embedded in three things: the triumph of the small and weak, a thing he called “eucatastrophe,” and the utter evil that the ring represented.
The first comes from the grand view of Middle Earth as a whole – much of the background of Lord of the Rings is men and elves of great power working to overthrow evil and failing, or falling short. In contrast, the ones who succeed are often the simple and ordinary folk. Many of the key events hinge on someone small and simple doing what they need to do, and that deed turns the course of kings and kingdoms. Think Merry and Pippin rousing the Ents in Fangorn, or Bilbo throughout The Hobbit, and of course Frodo and Sam stepping up to take the ring on a hopeless journey. Just the decision to take the journey is a pretty heroic act, let alone everything they go through.
The second thing is a term the Tolkien coined. If a catastrophe is the thing that unravels a plot, like in a tragedy for example (think MacBeth killing the king – everything in the story unravels from that point), the eucatastrophe is a sudden turn of events that resolves the plot at the climax. That’s exactly what happens with Gollum and Frodo – the whole thing centers around Frodo being suddenly unable to do what he was supposed to (not merely unwilling – unable).
That overlaps with the third thing – the ring is utterly evil. Even Gandalf or Aragorn would be unable to resist its ability to twist its bearer to evil – that happens to be why Frodo takes it in the first place. Both Frodo and Bilbo had shown a particular resilience to the effects of the ring, though obviously not immune. At any rate, Frodo then "failing" at the end has everything to do with the utter evil and corruptible nature of the ring.
In short, then, a great part of the story centers around Frodo NOT being a typically heroic character, capable of great deeds of derring-do and such. As Elrond puts it, “Such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels of the world: small hands do them because they must, while the eyes of the great are elsewhere.”
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Nov 23, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
I was waiting for someone to say it better than I could. You did.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 23, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for similar frame of mind.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
that is well put.
Frodo couldn’t be a typical hero because that is exactly the type of person that the Ring enslaves so easily.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Plus, the Riders of Rohan are just cool.
I mean, c’mon.
by biff pocoroba on Nov 23, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Rohan reminds me
One of my favorite visual images of the book was when Gandalf was riding to Minas Tirith with Pippin and they spot the watch fires being lit.
On, Shadow- fax! We must hasten. Time is short. See! The beacons of Gondor are alight, calling for aid. War is kindled. See, there is the fire on Amon Dîn, and flame on Eilenach; and there they go speeding west: Nardol, Erelas, Min-Rimmon, Calenhad, and the Halifirien on the borders of Rohan.
I remember reading that and envisioning those beacons being lit. A sort of domino effect of fire on all these hilltops… in the movie….pfffffffft.
Really? I thought that was one of the best scenes in the whole movie trilogy. The sweeping shots between mountain peaks and hills, with fires blooming in the distance…it sorta captured the passage exactly, IMO.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 24, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
IAWTC, although mentally I was thinking, “wait … did it just go into night again, or is it just dawn in Minas Tirith and they’re changing time zones to Rohan?” Also, “But HOWD THEY GET UP THERE?”
But visually and musically, I loved that part. Oh, man, as if an entire continent had suddenly awoken.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
I thought that was beautifully and stirringly realized.
My one great disappointment in the movies is that they omitted my very favorite passage: in the battle of the Pelennor Fields, when everyone thinks the Corsairs of Umbar are coming and they’re all doomed, and Eomer rallies his troops for their last stand:
Out of dark, out of doubt, to the day’s rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope’s end I rode and to heart’s breaking,
now for wrath, now for ruin, and a red nightfall!
If only they could have worked that scene into the movie.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 24, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
I had a whole thing typed up but this is actually cogent.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
MacBeth doesn’t kill the King. His wife does.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 24, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not entirely sure why you think that. I suppose Lady Macbeth is the one driving him to do it, and is obviously complicit, but the act itself was Macbeth’s.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Hmmm.
I’m not sure why I thought that, either.
I’m gonna go with brainfart.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 25, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
I wish the movies had Tom Bombadil. He’s a great character.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Ultimately useless though.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Without him, everything fails.
So no, not ultimately useless.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Well okay, then every detail should have been included.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
You’re right. The movies were done excellently.
It’s just a whimsical gut opinion- I realize that the screenplay angle limits its viability.
I really wish the Harry Potter series followed the same route: put the movie rights on the back burner for a decade or so until a director shows up who has always dreamed of producing the movie series and knows exactly what he’s doing. The current movies do a disservice to the literature.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
i agree completely re: HP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I can’t bring myself to watch them. I can’t understand my floormates who are so amped up to watch the most recent one. After suffering through two of them (#1 and #3 I believe) I just want to preserve my fond memory of the books and not dilute it further by watching the movies.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I just recently learned Terry Gilliam was considered to direct the first HP
Which would have been hugely more interesting.
Gilliam: “I mean, Chris Columbus’ versions are terrible. Just dull. Pedestrian.”
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
I dunno, I always separate the movies from the books as far as analysis. I judge books solely as books and movies solely as movies. So in that case, the third, fourth and sixth HP movies are fantastic (seeing the seventh in a couple hours).
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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I can’t do that. The Harry Potter books are simply fantastic. If they are going to be put in movie form, I’m incapable of not demanding that they are at the same level relative to other movies that the books are to other books.
The Lord of the Rings was capable of satisfying me in that regard. Part of it is that I am not very good at mentally visualizing faces and scenes in the course of reading fictional works; I do not want to pick up either series and have an actor’s face pop into my mind when I read a characters’ name that immediately gives me a mental reminder of a mediocre or OK movie.
Just to give some statz to contextualize:
Metacritic calculated the following values (1-100) for the HP movies:
64, 63, 82, 81, 71, 78, 67
LOTR netted this level of reviews:
88, 92, 94
I mean, the HP scores are fine scores for a movie in its own right. But if it’s an adaptation of Rowling or Tolkien, high-80s to low-90s is exactly the level of sophistication and prowess that’s necessary.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
It’s totally valid to miss seeing a favorite character in the movie adaption of a book, even as you might admit it was a necessary thing. I liked old Tom as well.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
I always hated Tom Bombadil.
I did love the Barrow-Wight scene, though. that would have been something to see in a movie.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I thought dumping Glorfindel was a good call, actually. He doesn’t figure in later events; replacing him with Arwen made the movie less confusing (one less character to keep track of) without harming the story much.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
I don’t live Liv Tyler much and I honestly hated Arwen in the movies, and the I liked Glorfindel in the books, so I was kind of pissed they pulled the switcheroo.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
HEY
THAT TOOK A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING BUDDY.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
How did you know it was me?
/smooch
Actually, I’m actually the Fifth Hobbit who played the drums before Peregringo took over.
Which was the true reason for me to sell out the Shire.
by Fredo Baggins on Nov 23, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
How did you know it was me?
Well played, Mauer.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
OT : Regarding that gif I posted in the previous thread
Holy Shit. There is a video game for it in Japan.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
what?
I missed your previous gif. but is that game what I think it is about?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
… video games were much different when I was a kid…
48 years after his heart was broken by a Willie McCovey line out to Bobby Richardson, Charlie Brown finally has his championship.
Kancho
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Baseball Economics
I need to read some articles or see some spreadsheets before any grand conclusions, but it seems to me that bringing back Huff helps to sell the Giant’s brand long-term as well as sell more Huff/Giants merchandise in the short-term.
In 2010, he was a possible team MVP (who would you vote for?), a hugely popular character and really an offensive star on the team. Without the 2 years+option contract he is just a rental. Heck, with the contract and a little bit of luck, he’ll be an everyday player for three (maybe 4) years… if he were finishing that 3-4 year term now, he and Cain would be the most tenured Giants. The difference between a one-year player and 3/4-year player has to effect sales of Huff jerseys this Christmas and next season. It’s the difference between waving a fond goodbye and forking of some cash from some sweet Giants World Series loot.
In terms of team brand, I think it has to help when a team can retain its stars. It is part of what separates the mid- and upper-payroll teams from the Marlins and A’s. The Marlins do a lot to signal to their fans that “You shouldn’t give a shit about this team.” The Giants do a lot to try and tell the fan-base that the team matters. That its legacy matters. I really think that Sabean could get a little more from ownership, because marketing Huff as a long-term rather than rental Giant fits into the Giant’s Way™ of Marketing. And I think that the Giants Way of Marketing is working.
This is not to say that more Huff posters, memorabilia, t-shits and jerseys will sell next year than Jeter crap. Or that moves should be made from a solely marketing perspective. I think Huff got about market-price. But I think the Giants are getting more from this contract than just Huff’’s WAR for 2011, 2012 and maybe 2013.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
by kennv on Nov 23, 2010 2:28 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Very well said!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yes indeed
The Giants are very well aware of this. Also, think about what Huff thinks of having the “Huff” brand for after baseball is over. You can do that in the Bay Area.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Come on down to Huff's!
Fine Dining, Sports Bar, and Women’s Lingerie!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Huff & Puff’s medicinal cannabis center
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
I always figured it would be named “Timmeh’s Hair Smoke Shop”
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Men’s Lingerie.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
I will take a Huff t-shit over Jeter crap any day.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
WEST COAST BIAS !!
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions -I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Where is Dan Burkhart going to play ?
My friend was very incredulous that I would buy an Aurilia or Snow shirt, today, over a theoretical Giants Jeter shirt.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 23, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Ummm...weird.
Even if Jeter did come to the Giants…why would Giants fans have a greater attachment to him than to Snow or Aurilia?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
BECAUSE HE'S DEREK JETER!!!!!1!
JETER!!!!! JE-TER! JETER.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
“Huff t-shit” > “Jeter Crap”
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 24, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Well said
Also, if I were a journalist covering the Giants, I would’ve been tempted to kick some money into the “Re-sign Huff” kitty just to ensure the continuing stream of quotes.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
The nice thing about any 2-year deal
Is that no matter how bad Huff is, I can just assure myself he’ll hit a game-winning home run in the clincher of a world series at the end of it.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 23, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
wrecked
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Just wanted to say that I just tossed tuber in the over
Also, I love Aubrey Huff.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 23, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I have no idea what this means.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
by ResDog on Nov 23, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty sure it is a typo.
“Just wanted to say that I just tossed lube in the oven.”
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
by jhiat00 on Nov 23, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
They respawn every 15 min, 2 spawns randomly from 6 spawning spots
Back in Vanilla days, this effect does not trigger the potion timer, and is a particularly key lifesaver if you need to use the potion timer for mana.
1200 Health is quite a bit for priests and mages.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I’m a bit embarrassed to say I understand every word of this.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
WoW jargon from the looks of it.
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"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 23, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap
I need to pay more attention when I type. That’s just embarassing.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 23, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Huff has been known for his tuber tossing.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Less heavy lifting.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
...
Should I toss tuber in the under?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Bobotubers?
And i just greened this.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 24, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
huh.
I just noticed Delmon Young finished 10th in AL MVP voting.
He had a surprisingly good year, I guess…but he was also 45th among AL position players in WAR.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
if I may get on my soapbox for a minute
My least favorite thing about MCC during the team’s playoff run has been the collective tendency to freak out and yell about how anyone in the media who criticizes the team or doesn’t pick them to win is evil and bad and wrong and dumb and BIASED!!!!!
It’s tiresome and Yankee fan-ish. Let’s stop, eh!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
by jcb9 on Nov 23, 2010 3:19 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
YOU ARE BIASED AGAINST GIANTS FANS WHO FREAK OUT AGAINST THE MEDIA
BIAS!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
(I completely agree.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Maybe you should be grading and not so busy agreeing, hm?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
not just jponry!
I have 42 students worth of papers left to grade, plus 35 pages in papers to write.
And the semester here ends super early – next week is the last week of classes, and then it’s finals week.
/sobs
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
MAYBE IF YOU DID NOT HATE THE GIANTS FANS SO MUCH
IT WOULD GO BY EASIER.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
so impatient!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Part impatient, part just being a jerk.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I worked hard on that.
Also I mainly plagiarized from Walkoff Baltimore Chop
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Stop agreeing with yourself. That’s my job!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
THIS JCB9 GUY IS SUCH A DICK.
LOOK WHAT HE IS SAYING ABOUT MCC!
My least favorite thing about MCC during the team’s playoff run has been the collective tendency to freak out and yell about how anyone in the media who criticizes the team or doesn’t pick them to win is evil and bad and wrong and dumb and BIASED!!!!!
Obvious Anti Giants Bias.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
by scout6 on Nov 23, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What a bunch of shit!
Link?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 23, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
BOYCOTT JCB9!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
INCLUDING ALL JCB9 PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
MEANING NO MORE PULLING NUMBERS FROM HIS ASS.
FROM NOW ON, WE ARE USING GOOFUS’ ASS.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
So that’s what happened to Shaggy!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I really want to play that. It’s the completest in me.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You had me at helloest.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 24, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
True jcb9 fact
In the 1999/2000 offseason, Rob Neyer called me an idiot via email.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
And now you defend him.
I know you’re into literature, flowers and baby powder, but good god, man. Show a little spine.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
heh!
I was right, too.
As I recall it:
I responded to his 2000 NL West preview article; he thought the Giants had a good team, but not as good as some people thought, because inevitably, Barry would spend time on the DL (he missed a lot of 1999 – only played 102 games) and Jeff Kent had played over his head in 1999 and was bound to regress. I pointed out that Barry’s 1999 DL stint was the first of his Giants career, so it hardly seemed like a foregone conclusion he’d get hurt again, given his career durability, and that people had said Kent was bound to regress every year he’d been a Giant, and so far he’d only kept getting better.
Neyer’s response, basically, was, “So Kent will just keep getting better every year for all eternity? Are you an idiot?”
I’d emailed him before to disagree with some of his points, and he’d always been perfectly polite. I figure he was probably having a bad day.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
MVP’d
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Most Valuable Post
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
when you are Rob Neyer… every day is a bad day.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Does this include the tendency to go to other SBN blogs and whine about the stuff that’s posted there? Because if it does, I could give this post my A++ rating.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
This made me laugh from the Mychael Urban chat:
When Sabean says they need to re-arrange money, any chance Torres gets non-tendered? After all he is going on 32 and just had a career year.
And, we have a new contender for “dumbest person on the internet”!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
“Well, this insanely valuable centerfielder is looking for a raise from $500K to about $1M in arbitration. It’s possible we could trade him and replace his roster spot to save $500K, but I don’t know that for sure, and ‘Burn Notice’ is almost on, so I’m just going to release him.”
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
I, too, would just release Carlos Beltran.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
He doesn’t even get to be in arbitration yet, IIRC.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Baseball Reference has this as his first year. Don’t know how accurate they are yet.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Cot’s has him at 2.115 years service time.
Frickin’ sweet.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yeah, I feel the same way. But at least MLB minimum salary isn’t anything to sneeze at.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
:(
I wish Zito would just gift him $10 million.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
well, he’ll be 36 when he eventually hits FA, and we know the Giants take care of loyal players, so if Torres is still putting up numbers (i know its a long ways off) they will take care of him. Maybe a 2 year, $12 mil contract.
and a coaching job. but who knows.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Cot's hasn't updated that yet
If you look at their 2011 Arbitration Eligibles section, Torres is listed there with 3.115 years service time.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Have they counted 2010 yet?
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Just out of curiosity, what was Urb’s response?
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Standard Urban: polite but firm disagreement.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Manners
He’s a pretty classy guy when you think about it.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
not really, actually. looks terrible on him.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
My friends that work at FSNBA tell me he’s an OK Joe.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Never forget
I just don’t ever get tired of seeing this.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 23, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
If only there were a good picture of Bushes looking bitter and sad as a result of this home run.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
*definite article
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
lol
you pre-empted my snarky shrubbery pictures
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Hehe.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
BITTER BEER FACE!!
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Nov 23, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
I originally wrote about ‘Bitter Bush Baseball Face’ but it just didn’t look right.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Awww… sad shrub.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Oh this is funny!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 24, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. Definitely lacking this World Series.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Nov 23, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
is it true Babs brought the fetus to a game?
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
just askin'
didn’t say so in the article.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
What’s with the spotlight on his forearm?
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
The ghost of Mark DeRosa's Tendons.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
However did he strain his forearm?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Do you all realize that we're still in the same month when the
2010 San Francisco Giants won the World Series?
and we will be for another week…
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
It's only been 3 weeks and a day.
Feels so much longer than that. I wish there was some sort of Post-Parade event. I guess taking pictures with the trophy will be pretty freaking awesome.
God looked down on the McCoven and said
This month of celebration shall seem much longer to make up for the years of pain and the season of torture.
And it was good.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I tend to love November
But this is a pretty great November even so. Hoping for a good turkey day.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
TSA Question: Why would anyone object to the scanner...
I could care less if there is a blob outline of me floating around somewhere…people post the stupidest pictures of themselves on in the internets and now object to this…
Also: the boycott is just stupid
Because people like to complain...
and make big deals out of things like this to get attention.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
agree 100 percent.
Why does it matter? I guess people are scared about radiation but those are the same kind of people that refuse to have Microwave Ovens in their houses. It’s tinfoil hat wearers IMO.
not so quick – here is a (pdf warning) letter from doctors at UCSF raising some questions about the radiation of these devices.
And: here is an opinion piece (that links to the above letter) that urges people to opt-out of ONE of the two different scanning machines.
Personally, I am not completely adverse to radiation (own & use a microwave, go to the dentist & doctor for x-rays, etc.) – but I am adverse to subjecting myself to this for simply wanting to get on a plane. Whatever, fondle my junk – I’m still flying to Vegas for a long weekend in December – but I’ll allow extra time as I don’t agree that safe airways can only be achieved through exposure to radiation.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Sigh...
the leading cause of cancer is smoking
the second leading cause of cancer is radon
the third leading cause of cancer is cosmic rays…people in Denver are more likely to get cancer than those living at sea level…I don’t think people are dying in clusters in Denver
This is a flawed argument.
While I support the scanners, your defense is pretty terrible.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I support Radiation Man because he is as a god among us.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
??? I’m not going to argue those points.
but what about those that assert that the scanners don’t even accomplish what they were designed to do? make air travel safer?
although, I’m pretty sure they are doing a very good job of what they were designed to do – which is be sold to airports and make profits for those who sell them.
woot!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Atta boy, stimulus!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I also do not mind scanning and searching
if it actually deters or detects terrorism, as opposed to do, well, nothing. I haven’t been through the new pat-downs yet but I’m sure they’re as half-assed as the other scanners and searches are.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Airplane-related terrorism isn’t exactly a leading cause of death in America, but you still seem to want us to worry about it.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Why isn’t anything being done about lightning strikes?
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Sadly, the Lee Trevino lobbying group never really got off the ground.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
There are worse things.
So forget this bad thing.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
the third leading cause of cancer is cosmic rays…people in Denver are more likely to get cancer than those living at sea level…I don’t think people are dying in clusters in Denver
Really? Denver, you say? Isn’t that where the Rockies play? hmm…
JUST KIDDING FOLKS
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
people who have already had cancer
have often undergone many X-rays and such and their doctors are already reluctant to order more. To detect cancer. TSA is requiring them to get on an airplane to go to Syracuse.
And since 1 in 2 women and 1 in 3 men here will contract cancer at some point in their lives, it is not an insignificant concern.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
I agree..cancer is important concern…the question is what is the rate of harm by the scanner relative to everything else…
the answer is
for cancer survivors, ANY additional radiation is dangerous, regardless of the possibly dangerous things listed in the UCSF letter above which is talking about the danger to “healthy” people.
I will say that if this leads to greater scrutiny of radiation risks of flying in the first place that will be good too.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you
There are so many problems with mandating that everyone be exposed to radiation that it’s really not feasible to continue.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
so
flying and getting x-rayed before you get on gives you twice as much.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not disagreeing with you. There is no “healthy” nor “safe” level of radiation.
Just pointing out that if you’re going to avoid all radiation sources if you have cancer, you probably shouldn’t be flying in the first place unless you absolutely have to.
and some cancer patients
do just that. The new X-rays force them to choose to receive double the radiation they otherwise would in trying to live a normal life as a survivor.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:32 AM PST up reply actions
So much smarter to just do as the authorities tell you and abandon even the pretense of self determination.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve always said this
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don't like the government taking naked pictures of me.
That’s all.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Ahem...lets not get hasty. I'll need to see a picture before I can decide.
Also, why should I have to decide between a porno scanner and a junk grab when all of these people trying to blow shit up are coming on flights not originating in the US?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
you and your silly logic!
That’s not the American way!
Panic now, ask questions later!
Besides that’s just when they’ll get you! NO ONE EXPECTS…. AN AMERICAN UNDERWEAR BOMBER!!!
I DEMAND 100% SAFETEE OR I'M GONNA BUY MORE PLASTIC WRAP FOR MY HOUSE!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
WELL DON'T FORGET THE DUCT TAPE!!!!!
(Which is rather funny since I need to go out today and buy duct tape. We have a roll of duct tape, and it isn’t sticky!)
And storing them… cuz we all know how reliable the government is. It’s the PRINCIPLE of the thing. We are all being treated as guilty of being a terrorist until scanned and/or searched. I hate slippery slope arguments but when this doesn’t work, and according to terror/security experts the scanners aren’t all that effective. [There’s a BBC article somewhere I’m too lazy to find right now.] then what? Saran wrap flight suits for everyone!
I’ve heard people say that it’s older people who object more to this whole thing than younger folk.
Cavity searches all around!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
STAY OUT OF MY TOOTH DECAY
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
WE MAKE HOLES IN TEETH!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Current events isn’t really my forte, but I’d say that a short question and answer with qualified (meaning well-trained) security personnel is a more likely route than more invasive policies. I don’t think the scanners will last, in part due to the outcry, and we can just hope something more sensible is put in place.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I dont mind.
I’ve been working out & travelling next month. If you got it, flaunt it.
/winks at scanner
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
I’ve thought about acting like I am really, really enjoying the pat down. But I probably wont because the person being forced to pat me down probably (maybe?) doesn’t enjoy having to do it.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I wish I could just get the scanner.
But anyone with a knee or hip replacement gets patted down anyway. The people who’ve run their hands over me have been professional, courteous, and in no way offensive. They’re people doing their jobs and God bless them for it.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 23, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
there are plenty of reasons
but you seem to have your mind made up about this already, so no sense in discussing.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
No…I’m open to the discussion…I just haven’t heard anyone articulate the opposing side…
It just seems like a lot of but the government…
We need to sell more scanners
As an Engineer working in the semiconductor industry, We need to sell more chips. Therefore I support any technology which leads to the expansion of Intel and TSMC.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Please post sourced evidence that the TSA's methods have made us appreciably safer and freer.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
How exactly do you do that…the idea is to 1) stop the terrorists from carrying out the bombing and 2) to cut off a possible method devised by the terrorists…it’s not that they came up with this thing for the heck of it…it came as a response to the guy with the explosive soaked underwear…
Okay…but what else should they do…people are already attacking them for reactive move…what do they say to justify proactive moves…trust us…this needs to be done?
I don’t see why I should trust an organization like TSA just because they ask me to.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Exactly…how is the TSA supposed to done any proactively?
Look at El Al…they do whatever they think is necessary to protect the plane…if you don’t want to submit…you don’t get on the flight…
They could actually present some kind of evidence that the new measures are worthwhile, as well as actually spending some time to consider some of the issues that could come up and training their employees correctly, rather than just saying “THIS IS HOW IT NEEDS TO BE TO SAVE AMERICA TRUST US BECAUSE WE ARE IN CHARGE.”
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I think you just proved OUR point.
But your grammar is so awful it’s hard for me to understand exactly what you are saying.
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You can't
It’s the same reason you can’t prove the concept of MAD actually prevented a nuclear conflict during the Cold War
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by short_shifter on Nov 23, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
What if an executive-level decision maker said in their memoirs that the fear of nuclear annihilation affected their decision making?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Why don't we add these scanners to our schools.
We must do whatever is necessary to protect the schools. And our homes. And our streets.
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What is this balancing test?
And why not these full body scanners? Don’t these full body scanners make us safer than the normal metal detectors? We must protect our children you understand!
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So obviously, we must put the scanners in our schools then.
Because the terrorists might use non-metallic explosives there.
Also
The cost of EDS machines for cargo can range from $200,000 to $1.6m, compared with $100,000 for x-ray machines in passenger terminals.
Every single point you have made is either completely wrong or dripping in fallacy.
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Okay…then…we should just do nothing…
BTW: if or when a school gets blown up…I’m pretty sure the security for schools will be a bit tighter…
dripping in fallacy
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LITERALLY DRIPPING
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Honestly...
I think of this with your argument…
It’s a lot of what ifs and but they could do something…
THAT IS THE MOTHERFUCKING POINT.
MY ARGUMENT IS MIMICKING YOUR ARGUMENT. IT IS A PARODY. IT IS RIDICULE.
YOUR ARGUMENT IS FLAWED. BECAUSE
It’s a lot of what ifs and but they could do something…
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But something has already been done:
Terrorists exists
Terrorists do want to blow up planes with bombs
Terrorists have tried to blow up planes with bombs…
Now whether the perceived threats from these facts is worth the intrusion upon one’s civil rights is a legitmate discussion…
You agnowledge there is a debate.
But you refuse to debate. If you refuse to post sources I will be even less civil then I was in the post you replied.
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Source for what…what exactly do you want me to prove?
Yes, you can point to loopholes and failures/problems with the system but just like every program/profession there are good and bad people working there…
From all the articles I have read on the subject, most of the screeners have been polite and professional in what they do..
What is your suggestion on what is to be done then…
calm down, guys.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Some things are bigger than sports.
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i know. i was trying to inject some happiness.
sometimes, people just arent gonna agree, esp on heated topics with incomplete information
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
It's not just the topic...
it’s the idea of basing decisions that affect other people on stupid gut feelings instead of logic.
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So we aren't even better than terrorists then.
If terrorists don’t use logic then neither can we.
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Before you respond...
I am being goddamned facetious. The point is, if we don’t act better than them, how can we claim we are better than them.
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And honestly,
At this point I don’t even care if you are a troll. There are enough people that think like you post that I feel justified in continuing this.
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No...
but logic is relative…prior to 9/11 we didn’t think people would be crazy enough to do what the hijackers did…now we do…the question then is 1) do we ignore it or 2) do we try and do something about it..
And if you choose no. 2…how far do you go?
Look…I’m all for moral relativism…I’m not for torture, invading other countries, or fear for fear sake…
I just don’t get the outcry regarding the scanner…to me it’s just a part of life just like having to take off my shoes for the airport…maybe at some point the TSA will do something so wacky I will object…the scanner is just not it for me…
You are an idiot for underestimating the insanity humans can produce.
Now will you accommodate for the less than 0.000001% who have both the means and the will to carry out a terrorist attack and live in fear. Or will you send a message that you will not live in fear and that their attack will not serve a purpose.
Secondly, I’m not saying don’t do anything. Metal Detectors. X-Raying baggage. Confiscating knives weapons and explosives in baggage. A quick frisk that doesn’t cup your goddamned balls. You shouldn’t have to strip to prove your innocence. You shouldn’t have to be treated like a sub-human when you board a plane.
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This conversation is getting a little heated
Let’s please avoid personal attacks.
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The terrorists have done the plane bit. The next big attack will likely involve something else. Water or food sources, disease, power grids… Sure they keep trying minor airplane shit, but half the time I think that those attempts are just “looky over here!!!” to distract attention from some other plot they are hatching.
Source for what…what exactly do you want me to prove?
That the TSA isn’t a waste of money, that it doesn’t discriminate based on race or religion, and that it isn’t an unjustified invasion of privacy and civil rights.
Yes, you can point to loopholes and failures/problems with the system but just like every program/profession there are good and bad people working there…
The point is the entire idea of the TSA as it stands is a failure.
From all the articles I have read on the subject, most of the screeners have been polite and professional in what they do..
Please link these articles. How many different cases of unprofessional in the TSA would convince that it isn’t wort it? Is there no amount? Will you continue to shrug it off for some vague notion of safety?
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1) I’m not sure how to prove this…TSA’s mission is legit…whether the mission is being carried out properly is a complete different issue.
2) What is the alternative to the TSA?
3) Considering there are million and millions of travelers flying everyday…I’m not sure…but obviously more after 9/11 then before
How about this:
I will post sourced evidence that the TSA’s methods have NOT made us appreciably safer and freer as I find them.
http://www.slate.com/id/2113157/fr/rss/
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/17/business/yourmoney/17digi.html?_r=1
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Commuter Flights Grounded Thanks To Bumbling TSA Inspector
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=340a79d6-839a-470d-b662-944325cea23d
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TSA's 'behavior detection' leads to few arrests
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-11-17-behavior-detection_N.htm?csp=34
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
people post … pictures of themselves on in the internets
The bolding is the important point here.
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by troymccluresf on Nov 23, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
First of all…there is no evidence of anyone’s images being posted anywhere…
Second of all…the machines are designed to destroyed the images…
Third…there is no incentive for anyone to post anyone’s images anywhere
I’m sorry to post-and-run like this, as I’m leaving work right now, but your first point is flatly incorrect, the second is true, but is of course not what happens 100% of the time (and it would be silly to think so, as such images would be very damning evidence in the case of a trial), and there is plenty of incentive to collect and distribute nude pictures of people, if only to demonstrate that it can be done.
I’ll dig up some links to the first point later tonight.
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by troymccluresf on Nov 23, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
If a cop wants to look at my penis during a roadside stop to make sure there isn’t an explosive under there, even though there is absolutely no reason to suspect me, I don’t see the problem with letting him have a look if he isn’t going to take a picture.
Spoiler: there’s an explosive under there.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Spoiler: there’s an explosive under there.
/sniffs
Nah, it ain’t spoiled. Bit of shampoo, you’ll fine.
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If you don’t think cops do that already…
Every criminal arrest report I have seen starts off with some sort of minor traffic violation to be followed by suspect appeared to act suspiciously
Good. That makes it okay and we should just officially sanction it.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
We should just go to a Totalitarian government, to make sure everyone is safe, tbh.
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I bet Stalin totally would have checked under my penis for explosives.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
And how!
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howie, too
Ergo, howie is Stalin.
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stalin was a hottie when he was younger
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Communist hair is communist.
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Groug would be creeped out by that stare.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
You have done better. But the hair is out of your league.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
There has got to be a Howie picture to match this
..someone search the TSA database.
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That hair is not evenly distributed.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Stalin would have placed explosives under your penis just to make an example of you.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
no…but a lot of it is “okayed” by the Supreme Court on the grounds of necessary evil…
It’s a balancing test…the question is whether the intrusiveness is worth the risk..
There’s quite a bit wrong with your analogy, but the first thing that’s wrong is that in your example there’s probable cause for something at all.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
There needs to be something wrong just to stop the car. There doesn’t need to be anything wrong to have your junk x-rayed.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Something is wrong with this car....
The gardener is driving it!
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Exactly, although the Supreme Court will tell you that flying is a priviledge, not a right, so you don’t enjoy the same protections as you do against search and seizure
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure the tourism industries in many parts of the US would love to hear that
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Yep, just another example of the court essentially ignoring the realities of modern life, including the necessity of plane travel, both for passengers and the economy.
I’m just saying what they said, not saying their logic is full-proof.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Things that are necessary != rights.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This is something I believe very strongly, but it’s rather theoretical and I don’t really possess the political language or knowledge to defend it in a debate. Maybe in a couple of years.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
And now that I think of it, I have no idea how that belief translates into an opinion on the current topic.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I think you might mean:
Everything that someone has thought is necessary != rights
In a state of nature, everyone has a right to everything that is necessary to their life. The problem is that lacking a third party arbiter (government), there is nothing to secure those rights against passions and roguery. Government is created to protect those rights, by giving up some unnecessary liberties.
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yes they do
Terry v. Ohio 392 U.S. 1 (1968)
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Case basically differentiate between a “search” and a “pat down”…a copy can do a “pat down” if he believes there is a danger (not probable cause)…he can’t “search” your car unless he suspect a crime has been or is likely to occur (probable cause)
OK
what do any of those things have to do with airport scanners and searches of innocent people?
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Nothing…except you stated that cops need probable cause to conduct a pat down…
You have more rights in your car (according to the SC) then if you wanted to board a plane…thus the probable cause issue doesn’t even really apply
OK
where is the “reasonable suspicion” of grandma going on an airplane?
I’m not arguing that the SC would actually throw these searches out, BTW, in “airport land” and where they are “discretionless”.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
There isn't one
except:
1) What is the alternative…profiling? That lets us down another winding road
2) Bombings are carried out in the middle east by children, women, pregnant women…
Source your second claim.
Additionally, we are not in the fucking middle east. You are so unlikely to ever be harmed in a terrorist attack it is fucking MIND-BOGGLING.
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I’ll use wiki not for its accuracy but it’s summarizaiton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/280467/pregnant_palestinian_woman_and_niece.html
Source pregnant women.
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oh and
While several women have blown themselves up in attacks on Israelis in recent years, among them a 64-year-old grandmother…
yes
there are reasons they are doing it to “everyone”, namely to argue they are “discretionless” like drunk checks and to avoid being sued for CR violations. I don’t have an issue with that per se.
What demonstration has been made of the reasonableness of administering a pat down to everyone refusing a radiographic exam? Is there a “reasonable expectation of privacy” in one’s taint?
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
what about the fake boob bomber?
It’s the next step, and will not be detected by the current pat-downs any more than the underwear bomber was detected by making everyone get their shoes x-rayed because of Richard Reid.
How does the bad act of someone I’ve never met, or seen, or have anything to do with, impart “reasonable suspicion” as to me and my ball sack?
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
It doesn’t…again..you are assuming you get “reasonable suspicion” for planes…
The legal justification is that the state/government has an interest in keeping airplanes and passengers safe…such an interest allows the government latitude to invade one’s privacy…the extent of a violation is what’s up for debate
and you are assuming
there’s NO standard. Is that really the rule?
Like I said, I don’t doubt the SC would roll over for these (i.e. the 9th Ct. “you can go home” rule), when they get the chance. I’m asking where is the connection between searching ME and the bad acts of others in the universe?
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
No
The holding in Terry establishes that an officer only needs reasonable suspicion, not probably cause (which is a higher threshold) for a pat down – also known as a “Terry frisk” thanks to this very case. The SC would likely analogize the current TSA practices to a Terry frisk, not a full search.
But you’re right that in that case the court reaffirmed that an officer still needs probable cause to do a full search.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
I read the comment as
“cops don’t need a reason to pat down”.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
what does that mean?
Yes, the guy with the badge and gun can do whatever he wants, at least until he gets sued.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
You are right.
And the intrusiveness is NOT worth what little risk to public there is.
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You have also yet to respond to my post below.
Surprise! Feds stored thousands of checkpoint body scan images after all
TSA lied: naked-scanners can store and transmit images
U.S. marshals improperly retained scanner images
Also there is no incentive? Really? You obviously haven’t been around this internet thing too long. If someone thinks someone else will be entertained by a picture, there will always an incentive.
TSA’s screening process is stupidly invasive, complete theater, and Kafaesque. But of course, you have nothing to hide…
One last link for good measure:TSA security groping leaves 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor soaked in own urine
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You don't realize how wrong you are.
Surprise! Feds stored thousands of checkpoint body scan images after all
TSA lied: naked-scanners can store and transmit images
U.S. marshals improperly retained scanner images
Also there is no incentive? Really? You obviously haven’t been around this internet thing too long. If someone thinks someone else will be entertained by a picture, there will always an incentive.
TSA’s screening process is stupidly invasive, complete theater, and Kafaesque. But of course, you have nothing to hide…
One last link for good measure:TSA security groping leaves 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor soaked in own urine
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Second of all…the machines are designed to destroyed the images…
Wrong.
The design specs for the machines included the ability to store and transmit the images. This was learned only after a court decided the information had to be made public after the manufacturer ignored a Freedom of Information Act request.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I have never posted a stupid picture of myself on the Internet.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Howie's alternate protest
passing through every photographic scanner in SFO, SJO, and OAK. I hope they give you a take-home disk as souvenir.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
I don't particularly care in terms of myself
But the current system with the ‘enhanced pat-downs’ for people who opt out or set off the machine needs to be altered to be more accommodating of people with medical conditions, disabilities and people who are survivors of sexual assault. The TSA workers doing these things need to be much better trained and much more aware of the sort of complications that can arise. Stories like the guy with the Urostomy bag who had to board a flight soaked in his own urine because the people giving him his ‘enhanced pat-down’ wouldn’t listen to him when he said he had a Urostomy bag and they needed to be careful with it shouldn’t happen.
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This
The TSA pretty obviously didn’t fully consider the implications of what they set out to do and only now are realizing it. There are so many situations in which people probably shouldn’t get either the scan or the pat-down that it boggles the mind.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
People do a lot of stupid things.
That doesn’t mean you get to force someone to do a stupid thing.
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Also: You are stupid.
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I have a friend who stripped down to her panties and bra in line to avoid the hassle. They thought she was a terrorist. Turned out she was just a slut. True story.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Furthest thing from a terrorist!
What is this country coming to?!
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by Alex_Lewis on Nov 23, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Imagine the irreparable harm to our democracy
if sluts are banned from airplanes!
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I could care less if there is a blob outline of me floating around somewhere
Yes, many people care. That’s the point.
(Oh, was that not what you meant? Well, it’s what you said)
people post the stupidest pictures of themselves on in the internets and now object to this…
People are posting pictures by choice. These scanners take away the choice.
And by the way, not everyone in the world posts pictures of themselves online.
Also: the boycott is just stupid
PEOPLE WHO DON’T AGREE WITH A POLICY SHOULDN’T DO ANYTHING TO AFFECT IT
In conclusion, every part of your comment was wrong.
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The first two are my personal opinions…
The third is dumb because it’s counterproductive no matter which way you stand…it’s like the people who try to block traffic during rush hour to call attention to a cause…yes…you get attention but you also get many many people to get really ticked off at you…
Keeping people happy doesn’t tend to be the point of most boycotts.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe counterproductive to keeping people happy. But again….
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
How would less people at the airport make anyone unhappy?
How is this in any way comparable to people blocking traffic?
How much have you actually thought about this?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
My understanding is that the boycott is as to the use of scanners…this would result in more pat downs occurring which would result in much longer lines at the airport…
The TSA is probably more likely to react to that than they are to angry letters or whatever it is you think the people who are against this should do.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Polite phone calls only, please.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Charles Boycott
has a sad now.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:33 AM PST up reply actions
- I don’t know what happens with the pictures after they’re taken. I know what the TSA says is supposed to happen with them, but funny how things that are supposed to happen sometimes don’t and things that aren’t supposed to happen do
- The people in charge of the photos, just like those who pat you down, aren’t particularly well trained
- I find the pat down less invasive
- I’m not convinced that either method in ANY WAY increases security (in fact, I’m fairly certain from all I’ve read and seen, they don’t)
- I don’t particularly like private citizens like yourself implying that I should just go with the scan so I’ve decided to request a pat-down every time now simply because you’ve arbitrarily decided to devalue my opinion on the matter.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I did not mean to denigrate anyone…it’s just my reaction to the outrage…
I also don’t think that you had to chose the scanners over the pat down…it’s my belief that the pat down is more invasive then the scanner
You are right.
Just like a stabbing is more painful when you twist the knife.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
it’s my belief that the pat down is more invasive then the scanner
And having done both, I feel completely opposite. Which is exactly why I choose the pat down.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Have you had the new pat-down? It does sound much more invasive than the usual pat-downs were.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m not sure, I did a lot of international flying last year in places that were already using the pat down, and believe me, they touched everything. Twice. But I still feel less dirty about it than the scan.
And, again, THAT’S JUST ME. If someone wants the scan instead, get the scan. Just don’t give me attitude for not wanting it is all I’m saying.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I’m still pissed that Canada made me wait 15 minutes for my pat down (that was the only option at the time) because I needed to be patted down by a female and there was only one female staff member working that security post at the time.
I actually pleaded with them to have a man do it but they refused.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I actually pleaded with them to have a man do it
/nod, nod
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Ok, I get that you're joking but . . .
FOR FUCK’S SAKE DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO MISS AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT? AND TO HAVE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE CANADA WOULD PREFER IT IF A WOMAN FEEL ME UP IN MY NAUGHTY PLACES INSTEAD OF A MAN?
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
AND TO HAVE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE CANADA WOULD PREFER IT IF A WOMAN FEEL ME UP IN MY NAUGHTY PLACES INSTEAD OF A MAN?
Hmm…. Canada is more savvy than I thought.
Okay, I’m done.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Your zucchini is jealous
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 23, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm Happy we still have Huff
I’d rather it had been a 1 year, $14 million deal though.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
None of us are (is?) in a position to make that claim.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Thank you
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
actually, I’m not sure
“None has been both singular and plural since Old English and still is. [. . .] If in context it seems like a singular to you, use a singular verb; if it seems like a plural, use a plural verb. Both are acceptable beyond serious criticism” (Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary of English Usage).
http://www.drgrammar.org/frequently-asked-questions#116
owlcrotf?
by kingofthacove on Nov 23, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Awaiting owlcroft's judgment
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Usually, but not always, "is"
(This is owlcroft posting from mrs. owlcroft’s account.)
Normally, “none” is singular, effectively meaning “no one” or “not one”, and—“one” being singular—takes a singular verb. Careful users prefer the singular form wherever possible, but sometimes it is not possible, and we have to concede that “none” has expanded to plural senses. Example:
“None of these authorities agree with one another.”
A good usage manual (like Wilson Follett’s Modern American Usage) will give a lot more discussion.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 23, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Just a coincidence.
We were without an internet connection for over a week, and are still trying desperately to catch up.
Hey, did I just destroy a legend in the making?
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 24, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
OT: Holy fuck, the Brewers
offered arb to Trevor Hoffman
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (unless they’re sure he’ll retire???)
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/brewers.html
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I was just gonna post that. Yikes.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
There must be a gentleman’s agreement in place, no?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
The Yankees are offering Javier Vazquez arbitration, but not Jeter, Rivera, or Pettitte. Great system that we have here.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
he might make 25M in Arbitration thanks to the great system that we have.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
It was completely un-weird.
It makes no business sense whatsoever to offer Jeter arbitration.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 24, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Classy!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Draft Pick?
Or he signs with someone for a year..
by kezargiants on Nov 24, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
I like this part though.
The deal does not include a no-trade clause, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
did you see Dave Cameron's response above?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I’m working on getting through the thread. These were my first impressions.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
He said 2/22 IS the no trade clause
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
That makes some sense on the face of it.
I just wanted the Type A picks. I think this seriously decreases our chances of getting them. Hopefully Huff proves me wrong.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Huff was a B iirc
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yes he was.
What a 2-year contract does is eliminate the monster season he had in 2010 from the Elias Rankings algorithm when considering his free agent type in his year of free agency. A one-year deal would have factored in 2010 and 2011. A two-year deal looks at 2011 and 2012. As Huff will probably regress a reasonable amount over the next two years (nothing scary), this simply by nature decreases the chances of Type A compensation whenever he leaves.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
What happened? I thought jponry would be liveblogging The Last Airbender by now.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
I'm still grading
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, yeah.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
It smells like eggs in the computer lab.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
As far as I can tell, she’s not in here. I have to run in a minute, though. There’s a thing in the Grad lounge I’ll be at if she wants to stalk me, though. So I’m going to miss all the ATLA fun. But on the other hand, I will get to eat. So I guess that’s a tradeoff.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
DAMMIT. If only I had seen this earlier.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 24, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
LOL – you got chopped.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 24, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
You missed pizza and beer.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
He wrinkled his nose. Eggs. Funny. The odor had been following him around of late. Seemed to creep underneath the door of his dorm…. Oddly pungent in the open air of the amphitheater. But probably nothing. Some misfiring synapse, perhaps.
His fingers froze over the keyboard. A chill ran down his spine. What was it? That sound? Like a pair a rusty scissors, maybe, trying and failing to part some paper. A sticky wheel on one of the book carts. Or…. No…. Could it be…. A chop?
Chop. Chop. CHOP.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I haven’t seen the inside of dorm room in damn near 7 years.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Seemed to permeate his grandma’s basement….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Isn’t there some law against basements in California, or something?
Also: I moved out recently!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
SEEMS TO BE CARRIED ALONG A BLOODY WESTERLY WIND
But good!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not a good deal
But not a bad deal either. It was an ok deal?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
..
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I agreed with Xanthan's reaction
@baycityball
Chris
Giants re-sign Huff http://bit.ly/haQbhP Quick reactin’: Not bad, but with some risk (like most deals) Huff’s had an up-and-down career.
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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So
Here’s info on the 1-disc World Series DVD:
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/113/1136393p1.html
Shout! Factory is bringing the 2010 World Series Champions: San Francisco Giants reel of highlights from the remarkable underdog season to DVD and Blu-ray on December 7, 2010.
The releases will contain bonus materials and extra features, and the DVD will be available for the MSRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) of $19.98, while the Blu-ray/DVD combo pack will run at the MSRP of $29.93.
The releases will feature the following bonus materials:
- This Week in Baseball: Buster Posey
- Giants Clinch NL West: Final Out
- NLDS Game 5: Last Out
- NLCS Game 1: Cody Ross HRs
- NLCS Game 6: Juan Uribe HR
- NLCS Game 6: Last Out
- World Series Game 1: Juan Uribe HR
- World Series Game 2: Edgar Renteria HR
- World Series Game 4: Freddie Sanchez Defensive Plays
- World Series Game 5: Lincecum Strike Outs
- World Series Game 5: Edgar Renteria HR
- World Series Game 5: Final Out and Celebration
- World Series Parade
I’ve never watched one of these DVDs before. Will there be footage from the games, aside from these “bonus materials”?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I imagine they’d probably have a sort of narrated documentary about the whole thing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
theyre not full games either? just highlight reels? waste of money, IMO
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
You can buy a multi-disc set from A&E, I think.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 23, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
It would be disappointing if these were the only highlights, though. =\
I mean, what about teh pitching?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I figure there’s probably a ‘main event’ on the DVD, like a little 45 minute movie about the 2010 Giants.
With the 8 disc set apparently only $45, I don’t know why you’d bother with this.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Exactly
I am getting the boxed DVD set and was wondering why anyone would get this if it really offers such paltry content.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yes, the 1-disc shows are pretty much feature documentaries with a narrator. Rob Schneider, I believe, is doing this one.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Aha
Narrated by actor Rob Schneider, the collectible 2010 World Series Film provides extensive coverage of this year’s Fall Classic and will be sold at the San Francisco Giants Clubhouse Shops, the official team stores of the San Francisco Giants; online at MLB.com, the official Web site of Major League Baseball, as well as Giants.com; and at retailers in the San Francisco Bay Area and nationwide. The official Blu-ray and DVD editions are available now to preorder at MLB.com, Giants.com, Amazon.com and various online retailers. The 2-Disc Blu-ray + DVD combo pack is priced to own at $29.93 and the single disc DVD is available at $19.93.
The 2010 World Series Film Blu-ray and DVD editions feature more than 80 minutes of main program presentation and nearly 30 minutes of bonus footage, including highlights from the National League Championship Series, the National League Division Series, the World Series, clubhouse celebrations and the championship parade. Using elements captured through the unparalleled access of Major League Baseball Productions, the official World Series Film provides unique, adrenaline-filled game-by-game coverage of the 2010 World Series as well as interviews with players, coaches and team personnel, allowing fans an exclusive passport to the clubhouse during the Giants’ postseason run.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
so, i can pay $30 plus shipping to hear Rob narrate a bunch of highlights, or I can pay $45 to have the WS plus NLCS 4&6 with Kruk and Kuip…
so, so hard to choose
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
what? a full length NLCS Game 4 is not on there?
that was THE MOST EPIC Giants playoff game in memory
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
this is the 1 disc DVD
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
someone posted something the other day
that said the 8 disc set will have NLCS Games 4 and 6 and every game of the World Series, plus post-game interviews and parade footage (?)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh cool, thats exactly what I want. the 8 disc set is not available yet i take it?
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.amazon.com/2010-World-Series-Collectors-Edition/dp/B0042EJDDK/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Released 14th December!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
i think i've mentioned this to my parents, oh, 30 times since they won
as the only thing I want for Christmas this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
:)
I want this and the “Freak Season” book.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Oooh!
NLCS Games 4 and 6?!?
That is some awesome news!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 23, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
What I’m looking forward to most is watching the games with KNBR commentary.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I am going to spend like a whole 2 days after Christmas watching every little thing on the DVDs
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’d feel a little silly buying something from a company called Shout! Factory.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I’m still waiting for a decent recap / highlight video of the regular season. There were a lot of great moments that have since been overlooked after the playoffs.
by kingofthacove on Nov 23, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'm hoping the big DVD set has something like this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm still trying to find a copy of the Oct. 3 game.
Had to record over it to get the Braves series and the first 3 Phillies games.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 23, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
It’s available for download on iTunes.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
are all the playoff games available on iTunes?
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Appreciate the info.
But I don’t have an iTunes holder/carrier/dingus/gizmo. I was kinda hoping Comcast would just re-run the entire season over the winter and I could pick up the 10/3 game on the night before Opening Day.
Come to think of it, why aren’t they doing that?
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 23, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
Is the iTunes software intrusive? I wanted to check some stuff out there but didn’t want to download the software to check it out (unless there is a way to check stuff without it).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
i have iTunes downloaded on my PC from Apples site, its all free, no issues with it- just make sure you get it from a good source and you’re set.
They have every postseason Giants game up for $1.99 per game, available through the iTunes media store (which is in the iTunes app on your computer)
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Srsly?
Runs on Linux with a Firefox browser and everything? That would be totally sweet!
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 24, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
The Firefox browser doesn’t have anything to do with it, it’s your operating system that has to support iTunes download. I don’t know anything about Linux so I couldn’t tell ya, but the worst you can do is check it out and if a iTunes download is available, see if it works.
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
"If you have a computer, you can use iTunes."
No, you can’t. (Owlcroft here, on the mrs’s account.)
iTunes absolutely, positively will not work on a Linux system (this report of it we have from all quarters received). It’s an Apple product, and they clutch their dollars till the eagle screams. I’m amazed that Windoze was allowed to work with it, and no doubt paid enough for the rights that even Bill Gates—the man whose income is so high that it has been calculated to be literally true that the time needed to bend over and pick up a five-dollar bill on the sidewalk isn’t worth it to him—probably noticed.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 26, 2010 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
This just in:
You’d think the sinking-in period would’ve passed by now, but I just tried to wrap my head around the San Francisco Giants winning the World Series this year…and it exploded.
Now everyone here has chunks of SandoBall brain all over them, reminiscent of Arzt’s demise on Lost.
It still isn’t real to me. But oh how it is glorious.
From Yahoo! message boards that I found when I followed a referral link:
Question:
Jonathan Sanchez, Thomas Neal, and Dan Runzler for Greinke of KC..What do you think, Greinke upside he has already won a Cy young and has world of talent???
Response:
Greinke was great in 2009, but he’s been mediocre the rest of his career. Last year his ERA jumped two full runs to 4.17. Lifetime it’s 3.82. Better than Sanchez’s, but he also has “a world of talent” and may be just realizing it. This years 3.07 was a monster improvement.
Greinke made $7.25 M last year and is set to make $13.5 M in each of the next years. Could Greinke be another Zito? Why’s everyone so eager to get rid of J. Sanchez?
LOL
ERA!
The be-all and end-all of real pitching analysis!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
We’d all obviously do that trade, right?
by kingofthacove on Nov 23, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Without even thinking about it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
TRAITORS!!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Are you kidding?!
Runzler is worth a hundred Greinkes!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
No. I’d think about it.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Are we talking about sex?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Not really, no
I mean, there was that gym teacher from the East Bay all-boy’s school who picked me up online and fucked me in the ass when I was eighteen. And then sucked me off in his car while parked at Ocean Beach. And then there was the big black dude with the big black dick, but I didn’t want to care about him and he cried. The Japanese tourist in Nob Hill theater doesn’t count, he gasped like a little girl. And I don’t know about all those guys at Eros, I mean, I never saw their faces, just felt their dicks in my mouth and my ass. So, no.
Wait, there was that one straight boy I seduced into fucking me, and afterwards he had this huge grin as if I’d changed his life. I guess that counts.
But no, not really. I’ve never had sex with anyone I cared about or ever saw again.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Too much information.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
You haven’t read anything yet.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
And then there was the big black dude… but I didn’t want to care about him and he cried.
:(
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m trying to decide if this is chasm or not.
Considering the detail (I could never make up something like THAT), I’d say this is real.
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:34 AM PST up reply actions
Remember kids:
The book is always better than the movie.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Can’t get worse than that, let me tell you. Gay sex is tedious and disgusting and full of silly idiots and I’m an idiot for even having any.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, honey, I am not a fan of being gay. I just am.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I like Greinke, and he had an amazing 2009, but
Why mess with what’s not broken. Sanchez is probably gonna contend for the Cy Young in future years, and if he can get his walk total down, he’ll immediately be one of the best pitchers in all of baseball. Not to mention the potential of Neal and Runzler.
by WasabiTorture on Nov 23, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
1) I like Jonathan Sanchez a lot
2) The chances of Sanchez ever being even close to as good as Zach Greinke are vanishingly small.
To begin with:
Jonathan Sanchez is 28 and has been worth 7.5 WAR the last three seasons
Zach Greinke is 27 and has been worth 19.5 WAR the last three seasons. 5.2 WAR JUST in 2010.
The even compare the two is completely fucking ridiculous.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
How’s the Royals defense? Just noticing his slightly but consistently elevated BABIP. fWAR might overstate his value slightly.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 23, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
If he gets his walk total down, sure. But has he even hinted at being capable of that? His walk rate was higher in 2010 than 2008.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 23, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
But part of the beauty...
is that he doesn’t even have to bring it down by a lot. Obviously he’s capable of pitching around walks. Also, I think as he comes to realize that people just can’t hit him, his confidence will come up and he’ll walk people less.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I wouldnt trade Neal, Runzler and Sanchez for Greinke.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
So, Steve Phillips or Dayton Moore. Which one is you?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
if its about the money, thats one thing
personally, i think the ceiling on Sanchez is too high, and if Runzler is being converted to a starter, he could pan out as well. Greike had a great 2009, but is apparently marred by anxiety issues, not something that i would think goes over well with the way the Giants play baseball.
And Neal is supposed to be a top pitching prospect ready in a couple years.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
oh wait, Neal is the hitter that regressed last year… i was thinking Wheeler was Neal for some reason.
Still, I don’t know if I’d do it.
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
This.
1) I seriously see Sanchez as a Cy Young competitor in these next couple of years.
2) Greinke is good…but do we really need another head case?
3) Runzler and Neal both have quite a bit of potential.
I just don’t see it panning out in the end.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Greinke isn’t “good”. He’s “really fucking good”.
This one is a no-brainer.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m in your line. I would love have Greinke. I’m a Sanchez fan, but Greinke is a clear upgrade. The other two are big question marks. Runzler gives up lots of walks and Neal really struggled last year. I’d do it.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
…still risky. More risky than keeping Sanchez. I mean there’s the people talking about New York trading for him, and I think that’s a terrible idea. And granted, SF media/pressure isn’t as great as NYC’s, but its a lot more significant than Kansas City…
I dunno. I can just imagine the whole thing falling through really fast.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Normally I mock the trade Jonathan ideas, but sweet baby Jesus, Greinke is good.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
he bounced from a 2.16 ERA to a 4.17 ERA from 2009 to 2010, WHIP went up, IP down, walks up…
Sanchez has that potential, I believe
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
sorry, was talking about Greike ERA going up, etc.
Sanchez has his potential, and we don’t lose Runzler and a hitting prospect to get it
by giant4life83 on Nov 23, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
But Greinke is younger!
This is literally as close to a no-brainer as you can get.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Sanchez is good. Call me a fool, but I don’t think I’d make the trade. Sans could be one of the best, and we’ve already got him.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
jcb9 already covered it.
Greinke has been 3x as valuable over the last three years, and is one year younger.
If Greinke is good, there’s no way Sanchez is good.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m not basing this on their performance in the last 3 years…I’m basing it on what I think will happen in, say, the next 3 years. I can see Sanchez, in SF, being as good or better in the next few years as Greinke would be. And we don’t have to trade for him.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Their performance in the last three years is the most reliable indicator of how well they will do in their next three years.
To top it off, moving Greinke from the Royals with their ballpark and level of defense to Mays Field and the Giants’ pretty good fielders would probably make his superficial stats (ERA, wins, etc.) look even better.
Really, there’s nothing going against Greinke for the next few years. Any mode of comparison you could use favors him over Sanchez.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Their performance in the last three years is the most reliable indicator of how well they will do in their next three years.
Really? Wow. I’d never think of that.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I don’t understand why it is so hard to understand.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
It seriously is, though, for me. It’s not natural for me to expect things to continue being good. I always expect things to fall apart.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Does an attitude of expecting things to fall apart have to be mutually exclusive with (from?) a belief that somebody who has performed much better than someone in the past will continue to do so in the future?
It helps that it is a comparative analysis. The expectation of decay can be applied to Sanchez and Greinke, with the end conclusion being the same.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So you’re Chinua Achebe! Figured it out.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Yes. Yes I am.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
shrug Its certainly not going to happen so I won’t lose sleep over it.
I figure, if we didn’t already have Sanchez, and the options were to trade for Sanchez or trade for Greinke, then I would trade for Greinke. But we already have Sanchez, he’s coming off a heck of a year, he has a high ceiling, and unless he’s injured I don’t see him getting anything but better.
Why trade him, and others with potential, for not that much of an upgrade? We have the best 1-5 rotation in the majors. I just don’t see the need to give up other talent to mess with it.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
you are delusional
If you actually think that greinke is “not that much of an upgrade” over sanchez. At minimum, Greinke is worth around two to three more wins than Sanchez. At max, it’s about five.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Okay then…how about not much of a NEEDED upgrade. We need a SS. We need bats. We do NOT need better pitching. I already realize that Greinke is the better pitcher. But that doesn’t mean I think trading for him is a good idea. If it was a one-off trade (which would never happen) between Sanchez and Greinke then sure, do it. But if we’re talking about trading away Runzler and Neal, or any other talent, then use it for something we actually need.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Jonathan Sanchez hands out walks like Shawn Estes (that is not an exaggeration – their career walk rates are both 4.6 BB/9). He gets a lot of strikeouts, but he’s not magic. Just like it couldn’t continue for Brett Tomko after his amazing last 7 (or whatever) starts of 2004, Jonathan Sanchez will go back to being Jonathan Sanchez next year: a pretty good pitcher who can shut a team down but can also look terrible.
In essence, the exact guy we saw in the playoffs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Or he could be the most un-hittable pitcher in the league for the second year in a row, cut down on his walks as he realizes that people just can’t hit him, and continue to improve just like he has every year since 2007. And the pitching we saw in the play-offs might have had something to do with his velocity dropping since he was 50+ over his previous IP rather than him losing it. Heck, his last start wasn’t actually much worse than Timmy’s Game 1 start.
Now there’s no guarantee of course, that any of the above will happen. He could completely crash and burn. But we’re talking about a guy here with a .204 BAA and 200+ strikeouts in less than 200 innings. He might not be the same early 20s prodigy that we’ve seen with Timmy, Cain, or MadBum. But heck, Cliff Lee didn’t get good ’til he was 30. He could end up being just pretty good, sure. But he could also end up being a heck of a lot better than that.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
The problem is Greinke could make all of the same improvements.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
And Greinke already has a 9.4 WAR season under his belt
That’s more than Sanchez has in his entire career.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
When I said “the exact guy we saw in the playoffs,” I was being flip and going for the easily understood reference. So instead let’s go with this: the exact guy who pitched the first five months of the year.
I mean, I’m not saying Jonathan Sanchez is anything besides a good pitcher, but he’s seriously flawed in ways that are way way worse than Zack Greinke is. Jonathan Sanchez just put up an extremely low BABIP (.255 is completely unsustainable) with a good defense behind him. Greinke put up a bad BABIP with a horrible defense behind him. Sanchez’s extreme (3ish ERA instead of 4ish ERA) success this year was heavily dependent on some luck and the skill of a lot of other players.
He’s a good player, but I do really doubt that he’ll be this good again next year. If he does, it’ll be by making improvements in his command (or control) that he’s never shown he can make.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Meh. What can I say? I’ve got high hopes for the kid. He could very easily prove me very, very wrong and I know that. But 2010 has left me an optimist, so I’m tempted to stick my neck out. And I wouldn’t bet money that his ERA will decrease another run, but I can definitely see it still being under 3.5.
On the Greinke end of things…as I mentioned earlier: If we didn’t already have Sanchez and the choice was to trade for Greinke or trade for Sanchez, I would trade for Greinke without a second thought. But we already have Sanchez and I feel absolutely no need to lose other talent (Runzler and Neal) by messing with our rotation.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
His upside is that he has already won a Cy Young? Oh…
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
eh, you guys convinced me. I do hate to part with Sanchy and Runzler and Neal, but if that’s for the greater good…
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Aubrey on ChronLive right now!
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Huff:
"There was a big interest out there. But in the end, it wasn’t going to take much to come back here for me," Huff said at AT&T Park. "Some other team would have had to blow me away with like a four-year deal or something and a lot, a lot of dough to stay away from here."
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID A PAY CUT TO $3 MILLION WOULD BE FINE
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
He is making a very good run...
…at becoming everyone’s favorite player =P.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
whats hilarious is
he hated ATT in the beginning
I don't think he ever hated it.
I think it frustrated him like it does many hitters. Once he figured it out he was ok.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
“figured it out” as in hit that inside-the-parker. Ever since then, I never heard a word about the park from him, lol.
I’d be willing to bet that was the first inside the park HR for him in his career.
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
So I’ve never really been a Bon Jovi fan, but I recently heard “Livin’ On a Prayer” for the first time since they played it in the middle of the ninth of game 2 of the World Series, and it made me undeniably happy. The song just fits the team so well.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I’m not in high school anymore, so going a month without hearing it is actually possible!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I want to do this.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 23, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
I would rather you jam knitting needles into my earholes than have to listen to that song.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
That seems dramatic.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
How about darning hooks?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
a modest proposal
I can’t believe you went that long without hearing that song. If it’s not that, it’s Summer of 69 or Let’s Go Crazy or… several other horridly overplayed 25-30 year old songs.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
If Zito is worth 18 mil. per year, Rowand is worth 12 mil. per year, and Renteria is worth 8 mil. a year, then Aubrey Huff and his rally thong are a huge bargain.
If Huff can produce at a similar level or even approach his success from 2010 in his next two seasons, I won’t be the slightest bit unhappy that we probably could’ve gotten him for a couple million less each year. And I am pretty sure that he’s gonna remain a productive player for a while still.
I’m glad to see the Huff-Posey 3-4 combo is gonna be around for a few more years, and hopefully, a few more world series titles. Go Giants!
If Zito is worth 18 mil. per year, Rowand is worth 12 mil. per year, and Renteria is worth 8 mil. a year, then Aubrey Huff and his rally thong are a huge bargain.
If the Giants give out really bad contracts sometimes, then any contract that’s not a trainwreck is totally cool!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
If Zito is worth 18 mil. per year,
He’s not.
Rowand is worth 12 mil. per year,
He is also not.
and Renteria is worth 8 mil. a year,
No he isn’t.
then Aubrey Huff and his rally thong are a huge bargain.
Bargain is a strong word.
If Huff can produce at a similar level or even approach his success from 2010 in his next two seasons,
He almost certainly won’t.
I won’t be the slightest bit unhappy that we probably could’ve gotten him for a couple million less each year.
Ok? This matters not at all. You might be slightly unhappy if we spent money on Huff that could have gone to… whatever.
And I am pretty sure that he’s gonna remain a productive player for a while still.
Well now that we have your projections down, we can really move forward!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
dang, man, he’s not even calbeardj, was a point-by-point takedown really necessary?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
and Renteria is worth 8 mil. a year,No he isn’t.
Ahem. The Giants won the World Series. Renteria was the MVP of the World Series.
2 years at $18.5 million was completely worth it.
He also hit the HR to tie the Braves in the 9th inning on opening day. The Giants won the West by one game.
This is science.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
and he told Cody Ross about his swing flaws before Ross hit the first homer against Hallday…that’s got to be worth at least $3-4 million
good point calbearjd!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Why does everyone get this wrong?
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
The Giants won the NL West by two games.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR THAT. IT WAS STUPID OF ME. I ADMIT IT.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Ha!
Pretty sure it was all the drama of winning on the last day, potential play-in games, and the general waking from anesthesia of being drunk since about the middle of September.
You have my sincerest apologies.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
but what if I come here for misinformation and innuendo?
WHAT THEN!?!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 24, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
then apparently you’ve come to the right place
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Huff is late to KNBR!
Tune in to hear FP fill time.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
FP played baseball?
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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irl lol
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
OT
Aladdin is on ABC Family. I am entertained.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Gotta keep one jump ahead of the breadline
One swing ahead of the sword
I steal only what I can’t afford
That’s everything!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
So good
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Man, remember when Robin Williams was funny? Those were the days.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
was that his last high point?
After the RV movie, which I couldn’t bring myself to see, I stopped keeping track.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
Aladdin would have to be near his high-point. Hook came out the year before and Mrs. Doubtfire the year after. He was still going strong for a few years after that with Good Will Hunting and the Birdcage. After GWH, though, there isn’t much.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I only saw GWH but I remember thinking it was rather … overwritten. /pot calling kettle
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
your statement brings me anger
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Nov 23, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Soundtrack was awesome though
/still misses Elliott Smith
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Nov 23, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Patch Adams!
I didn’t see either of these but I have to believe the RV movie was the blurst of times.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:36 AM PST up reply actions
Game 162
It’s nice that the Giants won the NL West. But the real test is if they can get by the Braves in the Division Series. Philly will handle the Reds and we’re probably not going to beat Halladay/Oswalt/Hamels, but if we beat Atlanta I’ll be happy.
Wait, what?
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t even care if they lose to the Phillies, I was at game 162 and I’ll be happy with an NLCS birth.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 23, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Of course, if by some miracle they make it to the WS, they have to face the Yankees.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
The WS is a complete pipe dream. Seriously, with respect to the Phillies — I’ve never understood this ritual of comparing teams position-by-position. So, we argue that we have the “pitching advantage” more nights than not — our guy is as good or better than the opposing starter. Maybe, maybe not. But what IS clear is that the difference between our pitchers and their HITTERS is a lot smaller than the difference between their pitchers and our hitters. We would have no chance if we meet in the NLCS. We ought to be content with beating Atlanta.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
OK done with grading
What should I get to eat for dinner whilst I finish Avatar the Last Airbender?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
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I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Nov 23, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
lol
Jporny’s on a carnival cruise?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
SUSHI
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Huff is actually on now
and taking calls with FP
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
Okay...out...
I guess I will just have to agree to disagree with GiantBrass regarding the TSA
I like the Huff deal
I am kinda bummed that I apparently missed the point of the LOTR trilogy
I like Aladdin…
and
Jponry should have udon/ramen to go along with Avatar…
by calbearjd on Nov 23, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
EMPIRE STRIKES BACK RULES!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
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Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 23, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
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Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
VALJEAN! AT LAST we see each other plain
Wilson and that frightfully awful beard. Aubrey Huff and the red thong. Lincecum and the hair. Cody Ross, the greatest in-season claim in the history of waivers. The prenaturally cool Buster Posey. The unflappable Matt Cain. The very roundness of Pablo Sandoval and Juan Uribe. The redemption of prodigal Bay Area son Pat Burrell. Watching these Giants, you half expected Jean Valjean to pop up in the on-deck circle at any moment.
More Verducci
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Monsieur, le Maire, you wear a different name
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Perfunctory google tells me “le maire” is actually wearing a different “chain”.
I give myself credit for knowledge of correct French spellings though.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I give you credit for fact-checking your Les Mis lyric post.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
BEFORE YOU SAY ANOTHER WORD JAVERT
BEFORE YOU CHAIN ME UP LIKE A SLAVE AGAIN
LISTEN TO ME!
THERE IS SOMETHING I MUST DO!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
YOU MUST THINK ME MAD
I’VE HUNTED YOU ACROSS THE YEARS
A MAN LIKE YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE
A MAN… SUCH AS YOU
(now really unsure about own accuracy)
Hey, I have this on my computer, time to listen!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Wow, I was pretty much right…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
MEN LIKE YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE
MEN LIKE YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE
No, 24601!
My duty’s to the law, you have no rights
Come with me, 24601
Now the wheel has turned around,
Jean Valjean is nothing now!
Dare you speak to me of crime,
And the price you had to pay?
Every man is born in sin,
Every man must choose his way!
You know nothing of JAVERT
I was born inside a jail!
I was born with scum like you!
I am from the gutter too!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I am warning you, Javert!
I’m the stronger man by far!
There is power in me yet
My race is not yet run!
I am warning you, Javert,
There is nothing I won’t dare
If I have to kill you here
I’ll do what must be done!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
And this I swear to you tonight
There is no place for you to hide
This child will live within my care
Wherever you may hide away
And I will raise her to the light
I swear to you, I will be there…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
omg Philip Quast is so fierce
/watching videos on youtube
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
FUCK YEAH best Javert
I know some people say Terrence Mann
But I say INTERGALACTIC BOUNTY HUNTER IN CRITTERS
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I’m not familiar with his Javert. I grew up listening to Quast on this one and no one else has ever even come close.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Mann was Original Broadway Cast. And in Critters.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I’m listening to him doing Javert’s Suicide. And actually singing “law” instead of “lawr” just sounds wrong.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I am the lawr, and the lawr is NOT mocked.
by Murray, Present on Nov 23, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
That’s just how it has to be.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I am Lore and Lore is not mocked!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve pretty much had the TAC videos on loop for the past four days.
Wtf Enjolras how do you sing so fucking fast
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
DUDES
20th anniversary concert
Lea Salonga is Fantine
Nick Jonas is Marius
Where did we stash the pitchforks after the WS win?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
what the actual fuck
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
wait, I heard Nick Jonas was playing him but AT THE ANNIVERSARY CONCERT???
Here’s a recording of him doing Empty Chairs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQg6aslqWGc
Better than I expected tbh, but… ugh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh man he could not hit the high notes
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
man
that is a talent disparity right there.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:39 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if anyone has ever had so much fun saying his own name
IT IS EITHER VALJEAN OR jAVERT
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
I love how in the TAC video, once Javert’s suicide REALLY gets going, he artfully lets a few strands of his hair hang over his face.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I also love
The man of mercy comes again
And talks of JUSTICE!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Valjean before that, when he lets Javert go, is my favorite moment of a slew of favorite moments.
You are wrong and always have been wrong.
I’m a man, no worse than any man
You are free, and there are no conditions,
No bargains or petitions
There’s nothing that I blame you for
You’ve done your duty, nothing more
I really admire that sentiment, especially since I’m incapable of it.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
BELIEVE OF ME WHAT YOU WILL
THERE IS A DUTY THAT I’M SWORN TO DO
You know nothing of my life
All I did was steal some bread!
You know nothing of the world
You would rather see me dead
But not before I see this justice done!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I don't know whether to think this is pathetic or disgusting
Yankees Offer Lee Six-Year, $160M Deal
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
With Wife-Spitting Bonus
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Nice
Thank you, asshole. At least your actions led to good in the world by making the Yankees poorer.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
lol teams with no Lincecum/Cain/Sanchez/Bumgarners.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
But did they farm position players?
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 23, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
they throw them in the chopper like weeds.
new steinbrenner owner says:
“WHAT’S A FARM SYSTEM? I THOUGHT YOU WERE BEING STUPID!!”
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
Tough to pick one over the other
Sad to see what the Yankee multimillions have done to the state of baseball. Disgusting the Yankees are allowed the huge loophole to MLB revenue sharing which allows this ungodly offer.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
that massive YES Network deal? I removed YES network but kept all the other baseball channels. They asked me why i only wanted to remove one channel, and I said “spite”. True stroy. I still pay the same amount of money every month, funny thing
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is great
There is no way Lee will be able to be even 60% as valuable as the contract over six years.
If you want the Yankees to be unsuccessful, hope that every contract a Yankee signs is as bad as that one. We need more albatrosses around the Yankees’ shoulders nowadays.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This.
I just have to laugh at this. And laugh and laugh and laugh. 26+ mil a year…and they wonder why Jeter is holding out for more money…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
0.6 * 160 = $96 MM. $96 MM/($4 MM/1 fWAR) = 24 fWAR. And that’s not even taking into account inflation.
I know aging and regression are bitches, but I imagine the over/under line on Lee’s production over the next 6 years with respect to fWAR has to be relatively close to 24.
Nice!
That was an off-the-top-of-my-head estimate.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
well, our Giants can guarantee that Lee won’t be valuable in the Series again next year ;)
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
if ya can’t make the NY Yankees fans like your wife, join ’em.
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
hankschulman
Giants offered Uribe arbitration.
So…what now??
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
We wait
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Nov 23, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
and if he doesn't come back...
Smithers, release the hounds
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
YAY
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
no reason not to
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OK I think I was able to put in words my feelings on this.
Even if you just look at the numbers, and forget loyalty, lockerroompresence, and thongs here is what I see:
Huff was the best option at the right price and they locked him up early in what is a thin FA year:
Huff L 30+ yo. 10M/2 yr. Cost them no draft picks. Even if he regresses, this is not a bad contract. If he performs well, it is a good deal. At 2 years, there is no real risk even if he tanks. There is also a reward factor here for taking 3M last year and proving himself. He is also tradable @10M/yr if Belt goes best case. Giants need left handed batters.
Pena L Also 30+ yo. 10M+/1 year? Career worst year. Just as many risks as Huff, so why would you not sign a guy who is high on your organization? Pena is the best comp out there, and considering the all or nothing options out there, a bidding war will erupt. Maybe he doesn’t block Belt, but there is no OF option.
Dunn L Also 30+ yo. 10M+ /4+ years No chance of accepting anything less than 4 year contract. Fielding more a liability than Huff. This would block Bradon Belt, and the Gaints give up draft picks. No deal.
Martinez S Also 30+ yo. 12M/4+ years? Will want too many years at too high $$. For what? 1 more win? Would block Brandon Belt. Also do not need to pay premium for catching skills with Posey, Panda, and Whiteside all C. No deal.
Konerko R 30+ yo. ?/? Also had a year well above average. No OF option. But what is his value over Huff? None. Less than Huff last year, and equal if not less than Huff over the past 5.
Any other dregs would be less value than Huff @ 10M. LaRouche? Lee? Berkman?
This contract is right on if you consider market factors. Especially if it proves out there were other offers, and Huff said all I ask is that you match them
Now that I see the Lee 20M/6Y contract nonsense, I think this was even a BETTER deal.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Man, Azula is just nuts
I bet that will end up being her downfall
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
DID TOPH REALLY JUST MAKE HERSELF A METAL SUIT OUT OF A DOOR? OMG.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
she is basically tony stark
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
TOPH WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OH MY GOD AANG!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
whahappen whahappen
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
he just showed up and destroyed Ozai's airship
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh the humanity!
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
I can't help but think SOOKEH
every time Sokka says Suki.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Aang, you had him!!! Why did you redirect the lightning elsewhere???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh my god Zuko taking the lightning! D:
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
oh man Aang just casually slapping away the fire was B.A.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
aaah everything about this episode is so epic
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
that was great.
just perfect, pretty much.
I’m sad it’s over now :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But in four generations the Avatar will be reborn into the Air element again — what happens?!?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Aang needs to get busy repopulating the Air Nomads.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
bow chicka wow wow
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 23, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
… sometimes I hate the Internet and my own needy curiosity.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
That episode was fucking huge.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
BWAHAHAHAHAHAA
oh my
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
needless to say sokka is much more likable than beel
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So how is that show, anyway? I’ve never seriously watched it.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Wait, really?
I thought you had. It’s great. I thought it was a little slow to get going and there are some filler-ish episodes, but it’s got a satisfying overall plot arc and the characters get to develop a lot.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was waiting until it showed up on Netflix so I could marathon it from the beginning, but then the discs were always out.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
Semi OT: I just realized the Giants didn't have a walk-off HR in 2010
when was that last time we didn’t have one?
also, I wonder, when was the last time a championship team didn’t have a walk-off HR?
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Nov 23, 2010 7:27 PM PST reply actions
You know i actually had a nightmare that Huff tripped and fell running home on that play
then I woke up and remembered the Giants won the World Series.
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Nov 23, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
After Kendry Morales, the Giants deliberately avoided them for safety reasons.
by non sequitur on Nov 23, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
TWO walk-off ground rule singl… damn you Natto. Gread minds think alike.
We had a Posey that walked off all the time, but he was saying “I ain’t havin’ it”
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions
OT
my dog has fleas. these things are impossible to get rid of. they suck.
time to give him a flea shot.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
well, a bath before the flea treatment.
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
I thought Huff would get the Sabean Special
2 years for $12 million, but I guess even Sabes can’t resist the vet savvy thong during negotiations…
/Win the inning
//Renteria - Still not a VD but I crush a lot
///Willism is Realism
This is me at the MIami Ohio Game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
um... you mean the San Francisco Giants World Series Champtionship hat?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Hey! I have a penis hat, too. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 23, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
I have one too. Several actually. They help to prevent babies.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
Is it one size fits all?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
FAMOUS!!!!!
FUCK YEAH HAT!!!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
btw
you look really excited to be there
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
PATRICK?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
It looks like Spngebob just ripped one.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
By the way.... I AM FAMOUS EVERYONE!!!!!!!! YOURE WELCOME
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I'm Better than everyone here
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I don’t see a picture.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 24, 2010 1:00 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry, I just can't ignore that this really wasn't a great move
too much money. It’s vintage sabes, though I did say that about renteria and that turned out ok.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
WELL YOU KNOW WHAT? I DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU LIKE OR DONT LIKE. YOU WILL TAKE YOUR HUFF AND LIKE IT!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
What ever happened to the Fanshot from the guy who called this?
He said something like …a buddy of mine who is close to the situation says Huff will sign within the next two days, etc. etc.
I think it was either posted last night or this morning. Did it require MODification? I wanted to give him props and follow him on twitter or something.
I dunno, I changed the title when I went to bed and then when I woke up… it was gone.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, I was getting more shit than anything else, and considering I was told on the down-low, I decided to delete the FanPost. Plus, I really didn’t like having my post title edited so I said screw this! Next time you guys’ll believe me though so it’s cool : )
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
I think Sabes/Boch wont be waiting if belt is tearing up AAA
I mean if this was 2 years ago, sure. But after the highly touted Buster Posey was called up and hit right away, im thinking that Ginatzz Brazss will probably bring belt up more confidently after last years success.
i believe so too. Posey paved the way for rookies in the Giants organization.
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
Aubrey Huff everybody…. overpaid since 2010
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
PiKAgiant everybody… not as cool since i found out he was a fratrat, er, i mean boy ;)
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
Avatar? hmm seems like theres an equally imortant show airing right now
McCovglee chronicles lives!
Oh shit the kurt/bully drama just reached a boiling point
since when has sue been such a good person
boo finn
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 23, 2010 8:32 PM PST reply actions
goofus sez
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 23, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
yeah it wasnt the best idea or well delivered. I saw that pick earlier today and thought it would be easy to shopp. But I barely know how to use GIMP at all.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 23, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
also prolly not a good idea ton use pictures of mods without permission.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 23, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
But what could go wrong?
(Please no one email me.)
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 23, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
can someone re-size this picture already?
For crying out loud. If it’s going to get shopped at least shrink it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 24, 2010 6:44 AM PST up reply actions
McCovGLEE Chronicles!
Aw yeah, Sue laid down the law with bully, GTFO asshole.
Aw cute dancing at wedding.
They found a good use for that shitty Bruno Mars song.
Lulz Sue marries herself, pwns her mom.
Oh noes, Bully came back
KURT IS TRANSFERRING WTF???
by Murray, Present on Nov 23, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
The sue wedding was a little weird but it was hilarious ownage of carole burnette.
I can’t believe Kurt is transferring. Especially after Blaine told him it was the worst decision of his life. I hope he doesnt join their team although I bet he will.
I wish Kurt would stop defending that asshole and just out him so he can know what its like
And sam versus finn thing is gonna get ugly.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 23, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Shift A
Did jponry finish Avatar yet?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Scanning up the thread I see that she has.
OMG AZULA VS. ZUKO
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Pretty lonely in here.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
/cuddles
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
/tosses condom your way. one of you is a dude, im sure. if not both : /
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
Sig test
"You think someone that big would be more well endowed" Aubrey Huff's mother on Pat Burrell
I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
WOO HOO!
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 24, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Well done.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Huffs mom went on the radio and said that? awesome
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
A story Aubrey relayed.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
then, I must say, he might just be yankin’ Pats johnson with that comment. i mean… yeah
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Very nerdy and crudely done
but whatever!
by Natto on Nov 24, 2010 12:27 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
rec'd
Took me a second to realize the TARDIS was there, though.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 24, 2010 1:41 AM PST up reply actions
His fastball arrives before he throws it!
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
This is also how
Buster manages to throw out so many base runners.
by mrs. owlcroft on Nov 24, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
If Timmy is the Doctor...
Can Buster be Jack? I realize they have no similarities what so ever…except for they are both just that awesome.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
hi
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 24, 2010 12:34 AM PST reply actions
hi
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 24, 2010 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Your daddy.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 24, 2010 5:21 AM PST up reply actions
of course it was the dodgers who tried to sign aubrey away.
Who else?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
for real??
then this deal is even better! D:
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
anyone stop to think that Agent Ned might have just played Sabean to ensure he paid more for Huff than he otherwise might have needed to?
by giant4life83 on Nov 24, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yup!
But I don’t think it matters. I won’t lay out the full argument here, but between MVP votes, his slash line and his defense, we AT LEAST got market value.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Murph putting the strawman in his place.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 24, 2010 6:47 AM PST reply actions
What now? The radio’s on upstairs, which isn’t very helpful since I’m downstairs.
You think they still sell audio/cassette tapes. I want to try and record some of those games on Friday!
A horse racing guest came on the show and was arguing WINZ! and that Hernandez should have not won the ALCYA.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 24, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
Giants setting the bar too high...
Moments after the game ended, a group of Tampa Bay fans hooted and hollered above the tunnel to the visiting locker room. One lone 49ers fan responded by opening his jacket, showing off his Giants T-shirt and shouting, “What about your baseball team? World Series champs, baby!”
About three months until pitchers and catchers report.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/21/SPBM1GFGME.DTL#ixzz16DYrtFRJ
Huge gap between the Niners and Giants these days.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I wish every offseason article ended with the number of days until pitchers and catchers report.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
Shift A: Happy thanksgiving eve!
Trying to think of another topic which I can seriously tick off other McCovens…
What about Azula is awesome….
(Actually…I thought both Azula and Toph’s characters lost a lot of steam at the end…also WTF with that hot spring episode?)
Character ID fail...
not Toph…Aang…both Azula and Aang character lost a lot of steam at the end
I actually like the development of Toph…
Azula is a great character
I don’t really like HER, but her character was very good. I disagree, though, I thought her arc was done very well with her smug confidence in her “people person” skills being replaced by shock at her betrayal by Ty Lee and Mai and then her losing her mind over that, kind of showing that she maybe isn’t quite as much of a sociopath as she seems to be.
I found Aang’s character arc satisfying as well and I was glad he found a way to defeat Ozai without having to do what he didn’t want to do. Although it felt a little deus ex machina-ish, I don’t remember if energybending was foreshadowed at all during the series.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not a fan of the deus ex machina…interestingly enough…the same reason I did not like James Cameron’s Avatar…I understand the idea that the authors were trying to get at…maybe the whole idea of trying to get a “happy” ending annoyed me…sacrifice is a part of life…it would like having Vader live at the end of Return of the Jedi…(sorry if I spoiled Star Wars for anyone)…
Ty and Mai didn’t really “betray” Azula as she drove them away…the heart of darkness/lady
Macbeth thing is little weird…
It’s a kids show.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think the fact that Aang was able to complete his mission while still upholding his ideals and values was pretty powerful.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I mean I don't get it
You thought his arc should have been that he should have had to kill Ozai and give up the things he valued in order to do so?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes and no...
Version 1:
Yes…to have to give something one’s value in order to save the world..I understand Aang’s values are good and the author is trying to do the good prevails over evil…but it also falls into the classic conflict and war can be wrapped up in a nice bow…sometimes conflict and war is bad and one has to make tough choices to benefit the greater good (going back to the TSA conversation)….
Version 2: Set up the alternative theory earlier so it’s less of a deus ex machina….I don’t know if you play Starcraft but there was a parallel angle with the Protess where there is a “light” and “dark” side…neither is really “good” or “bad” but more of a ying/yang deal…energy bending could have come in earlier into the story…
I agree that it should have been foreshadowed earlier but I don’t really think it was an “easy” solution. And again, as it is a children’s show, I don’t have any problem with the message being “You can achieve your goals without resorting to things that you find to be evil or morally objectionable.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I guess I don’t disagree with you and the message is important being a children story…so I’m fine with it…
I just found Aang’s character to lose a lot of steam at the end and the ending felt rushed…there were several episodes near the end where nothing really happened…I think the energy bending arc could have been introduced very early on and alluded to through out the story…the author put a lot of thought into the elemental portions of Chinese/Asian mythology but seemed a little lacking in the ying/yang department…
So,
What was your favorite final battle? The reclamation of Ba Sing Se? Azula v Zuko (Katara)? Toph, Suki, Sokka v the Airships? Ozai v Aang?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Ozai vs Aang
SO COOL. Especially when Aang went into the Avatar State.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, Ozai v. Aang wins for me.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Turtle-ex-machina. Or aqua. hydra? whatever.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I thought the energybending was extremely appropriate, and, honestly, it didn’t bother me at all that it was slightly tacked on at the end. I almost feel like if there had been more clues, then the hopelessness of Aang’s situation would have been less meaningful. I mean, that part where he’s talking to all the previous Avatars just desperately searching for an alternative and they are all basically telling him, “Dude, you have to kill him,” seems so important to the whole conflict to me. They have no clue that there is another way. Nobody even suspects that there is any other way. It’s powerful.
My only disappointment was that he didn’t really figure it out on his own. The lionturtle was fucking epic, but it would have meant more if Aang had gone through a sort of “Toph Metalbending” moment where he realizes that he can actually feel Ozai’s bending energy. The important thing about his reaching out to the other Avatars to me was that he was constantly hoping somebody would tell him what to do, and in the end he had to realize that the choice, the solution, the end wasn’t up to anybody but him. So the lionturtle telling him what to do was just a little cheap. But otherwise, I have no problem.
And if you’re looking for some kind of foreshadowing, I think the whole chakra arc is a good precursor to energybending. If Aang can be locked out of the Avatar state, it makes sense that the flow of energy can be blocked in a way to prevent more basic bending abilities.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Azula became kind of a tragic character for me at the end. Her entire world pretty much crashed around her, and in book 3 you get the sense that her mom’s turning away from her really affected her more than she let on.
As far as Aang, I thought they ended it pretty well with him.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
DONE!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 24, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know if I’m projecting a bit with Azula. I always felt that if hers and Zuko’s situations were reversed, she would have turned out differently. Having Iroh as a father figure rather than Ozai who coddled her sociopathic tendencies.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 24, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Supportive but firm parents and a loving family life is very important in controlling one’s sociopathic tendencies. I should know.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Some Giants updates
With Aubrey Huff signed, the Giants’ main focus turns toward finding a shortstop. They still have considerable interest in re-signing Juan Uribe, who did a creditable job at the position, but so do a lot of other teams because of a dearth of left-side infielders on the free-agent market.
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The Giants might even face competition from the Dodgers, who have rumored interest.If another team signs Uribe, the Giants will get a compensatory second-round draft pick because they offered him arbitration.
Sabean continues to discuss trades for shortstops. Boston’s Marco Scutaro and Tampa Bay’s Jason Bartlett are thought to be available. The Giants really want Arizona’s Stephen Drew, but GM Kevin Towers will not deal him. Another possibility is Jose Reyes, whom the Mets seem willing to trade as they seek payroll relief.
The Giants could give Emmanuel Burriss a shot.
Panda News:
Sandoval in Arizona: In the first real sign that Pablo Sandoval is serious about losing weight and developing proper eating habits, he decided without prompting not to live in San Diego this winter, but to stay in Arizona and work with a commercial training outfit.
Head trainer Dave Groeschner said Sandoval signed on with Triple Threat Performance, based in Tempe, Ariz. Unlike last year’s Operation Panda, which involved intense workouts at Giants facilities for two weeks, Sandoval will work with Triple Threat trainers all winter.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/23/SPOI1GGLFM.DTL
Really nothing to see here..but it’s fun to rosterbate…
Maybe they just mean some boosters.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
i have never understood the Burriss love
a singles hitter who’s OPS sits in the .660’s in the minors who doesn’t walk nearly enough to take advantage of his speed. not a great combo. too much carlos gomez
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
he's always on the team when healthy
and Kruk and Kuip always talk about him getting healthy. thats more attention than he needs for my taste
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
Always?
He was healthy all of 2010, and was called up for a week in August and then again in September. He appeared in 7 games and started none.
Kruk and Kuip always talk positively about Giants players.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
What do people think it’d take to get Reyes?
And Burriss is just a complete disaster waiting to happen.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
There was some discussion about Reyes here
Huh, thanks. How did I miss this…?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Avatar, airport scanning, my torturous sex life
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Wow I must need a nap. I read
With Aubrey Huff signed, the Giants’ main focus turns toward finding a shortstop.
as: With Aubrey Huff signed, the Giants’ main focus turns towards a fucking shortstop.
And no, I personally do not like to rosterbate, I’m not even counting them this off season. Cuz I don’t care!
THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not sure I’d want to read that much Schulman, Shea, Ostler and Knapp.
If only Doris Kearns Goodwin weren’t a Dodger fan.
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Get it for the pictures, not the articles.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I think it should have just been titled “Rapture”, or is that too subtle to indicate the play on “torture”?
Itaque, in anno MMX Gigantes San Francisconis Seriem Mundi vicerunt.
Ryan Rohlinger: world champion.
by shanghaijim on Nov 24, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Good god, that was a lot of crap to z through. 800 comments on a Sanchez trade that will never happen? Really?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
It’s the off-season. What the heck else are we supposed to talk about?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Movies and shit.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 24, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
There was plenty of that too…Airbender, LoTR, and Alladain all turned up. Or at least….I think that was this thread….
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Crap, sorry.
Replay fail.
HP too.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Reply...not replay.
Oy…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
This might seem treasonous...
But I just don’t give a shit. I wanted Huff (and Uribe) back if, for no other reason, than to participate in the 2011 San Francisco Giants Celebrating Their 2010 World Series Championship Tour.
I’m too new at this World Championing to demand a dynasty just yet.
Win some games? Great. Lose 90 games? Damn, at least no one got hurt.
Wait for the shortstop market to get better, Belt to arrive, Rowand & Zito to disappear in a puff of green smoke…
As has been said before, I can’t hear any booing or bitching due the noise that the World Series trophy is making by twinkling in the sunlight.
Reward you say?
The Niners are wasting talent on Mike Dingletarry, I have no job (Interview on Monday however, WISH ME LUCK!!!), Money is sketchy lately, I don’t like my car but need it, and none of that matters because O San Francisco Giants venceu a World Series.
I’m mostly Irish, but don’t speak a word of it and google translate doesn’t have Gaelic, so I went with Portuguese my other major heritage
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
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