Free Agent Predict-a-thon
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 18, 2010 2:14 PM PST
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PrintPredict the team, the years, and the money. The winner gets a lifetime subscription to McCovey Chronicles Premium, as well as two V.I.P. passes to the Gold Room at the McCovey Chronicles Lounge, opening in 2015 at the Persephone Underground Casino and Hotel in Las Vegas!
Here’s a blank template for you to copy and paste:
Adrian BeltrePat Burrell
Carl Crawford
Jorge De La Rosa
Jose Guillen
Aubrey Huff
Derek Jeter
Cliff Lee
Victor Martinez
Bengie Molina
Tsuyoshi Nishioka
Edgar Renteria
Juan Uribe
Jayson Werth
…and my guesses:
Adrian Beltre – A’s, 5/$70MPat Burrell – Padres, 1/$5M
Carl Crawford – Giants, 6/$122M
Jorge De La Rosa – Nationals, 4/$36M
Jose Guillen – Retirement, 1/$4M
Aubrey Huff – Rangers, 2/$18M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 3/$50M
Cliff Lee – Rangers, 5/$130M
Victor Martinez – Red Sox, 4/$48M
Bengie Molina – Blue Jays, 1/$3M
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Mariners, 3/$21M
Edgar Renteria – Marlins, 1/$3M
Juan Uribe – Cardinals, 3/$26M
Jayson Werth – Red Sox, 5/$100M
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I just can’t believe Guillen got so little money to stay away.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
ye gods
that’s almost Zito money!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre – Giants 1/$500k
Pat Burrell – Giants 1/$500k
Carl Crawford – Giants 1/$500k
Jorge De La Rosa – Giants 1/$500k
Jose Guillen – Giants 1/$500k
Aubrey Huff – Giants 1/$500k
Derek Jeter – Giants 1/$500k
Cliff Lee – Giants 1/$500k
Victor Martinez – Giants 1/$500k
Bengie Molina – Giants 1/$500k
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Giants 1/$500k
Edgar Renteria – Giants 1/$500k
Juan Uribe – Giants 1/$500k
Jayson Werth – Giants 1/$500k
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions
The only problem is, we’ll have to cut Zito.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
oh that little guy?
i wouldn’t worry about that little guy
you ever been on a real shrimpin' boat?
no, but i've been on a real big boat
Dude, you can just leave him off the team, you don’t need to physically hurt him.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Shank you very much
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
what if there was some odd industrial accident?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Then he would become the Joker?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Odd, I already thought he was...
…causes mayhem, keeps smiling, nobody likes him. Yeah, that’s pretty Joker-ish
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
so, you’re resigning Guillen to the Giants, eh?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
IT’S A PARTY AND EVERYONE IS INVITED
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
He meant the Yomiuri Giants.
More comfortable with chicken
by billywitchdoctor.com on Nov 18, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre- A’s 5 years 50% ownership club or 70 million, whichever is less
Pat Burrell- Pirates 1year-5 mil
Carl Crawford- Giants 7 years/4 WS Rings
Jorge De La Rosa- Astros-3 Mil
Jose Guillen- Angola Federal Prison Baseball Team 1-2 years
Aubrey Huff-Giants 2 years 15 mil
Derek Jeter- Red Sox’s 30 years/1 billion
Cliff Lee- Rangers 6 years-133 mil
Victor Martinez- Dodgers 4-40 mil
Bengie Molina- Mariners 1-3 mil
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- Not really a free agent!
Edgar Renteria- Marilins 1yr/3mil
Juan Uribe
Jayson Werth
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO JUAN URIBE AND JAYSON WERTH
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Ooh…I bet it’s dirty.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre – Cardinals, 5/$68M
Pat Burrell – Braves, 1/$4.4M
Carl Crawford – Angels, 5/$98M
Jorge De La Rosa – Pirates, 3/$30M
Jose Guillen – Nippon Ham Fighters, 1/$6M
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 2/$17M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 4/$48M
Cliff Lee – Yankees, 5/$115M
Victor Martinez – Tigers, 3$36M
Bengie Molina – Rays, 1/$3M
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Mariners, 3/$24M
Edgar Renteria – Dodgers, 1/$4M
Juan Uribe – Giants, 4/$32M
Jayson Werth – Red Sox, 5/$110M
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
4 years for Uribe?
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2010 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
I'd be sad if Huff, Burrell, and Uribe all left
Carl Crawford in black and orange would cheer me up a little, though.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
If those three cost just as much as Crawford per year I’d be really tempted to go with Crawford, Belt and Fontenot/Rohlinger/Crawford instead.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
This.
Crawford for ~$12 this year and a backloaded contract, would be better than the 10 + 7 Huff + Uribe are going to get…
CF: Torres
2B: Sanchez
LF: Crawford
C: Posey
RF: Ross
3B: Old panda
1B: Ishi/Until Belt has arrived
SS: Rohlinger…
We just won a world series! LETS DO IT AGAIN
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Yeah, uhhh
The most that Huff would make is probably around 20-25. Ditto for Uribe. Burrell will make like 5 million. At most, that’s 55 million. Crawford will make twice that. TWICE.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I said per year. In Grant’s prediction thing he has Burrell, Huff and Uribe combining for almost 24 million next year.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Yeah, but you can't just look at years
Esp if you’re backloading a contract. Look at how much we’ve been hamstrung by Zito and Rowand.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I wouldn't be stunned if Huff got 3/30M
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 18, 2010 11:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think that would upset me one bit, honestly. His production over the years has been somewhat consistent, and I think he’s a really good clubhouse guy. That’s gotta be worth something – I don’t know why, but he seems to be a catalyst for what went on in that clubhouse, and that clubhouse is why this group of so called “misfits and outcasts” won the World Series when no one anywhere (except for some of us here) thought they could do it.
Pay the man and keep him in that clubhouse.
oof thats a pretty big, long contract for his age 34, 35, and 36 seasons. And even though Huff proved himself capable of playing the outfield, his primary position is still the same one our top prospect plays. I like the guy a lot, but at that price I’d definitely let him walk and put the money towards a run at Crawford.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I think
he’ll still be useful at 36. Maybe not $10M worth, but if the first two years go well that’s ok. I think he’ll still be able to stand on 1B once in a while and would be an actual LH pinch-hitting threat.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions
10 mil in that last year to stand on 1B once in a while and be a pinch hitting threat is a pretty big waste. If either of the other two years were a disappointment at all that would be a pretty bad contract. His average WAR for the last three years was less than 3. His awful 2009 factors into that a lot and that year was probably a fluke, but realistically his awesome 2010 was probably a bit of one too. I’m just not that confident his age 34, 35, and 36 years will be better combined than his age 31, 32, and 33 years were.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
and if the first two years are good
who really cares about the 3rd anyway.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
i would care since that is $10mil less we would have towards resigning Wilson (i think), Sanchez and Timmeh.
by giant4life83 on Nov 19, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Is it bad that I still don't care at all about next year?
This from someone who has always said “championships don’t matter because we’ll still be griping again next year. ENJOY THE GAME”
But I’ll take a jab
Cliff Lee to the Yankees (a lot)
Carl Crawford to the Angels (a lot)
Pat Burrell back with the Giants (2 years/$8-$9 mil)
Adrian Beltre to the Cardinals (less than $64 mil)
Jeter back with the Yankees (easiest prediction)
Jayson Werth to the Red Sox (a lot)
De La Rosa to the Rangers (4 yrs/$38 mil)
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
i care alot about next year. because if we don’t get Huff, Uribe and Pat back, and somehow end up in 3rd place, everyone is just gonna say we were a fluke. How well we do next year is important, I don’t want SF to just be thought of as a fluke
That, and I don’t want to waste this awesome pitching we have.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
So what if we're considered a fluke? Here's how that conversation goes:
Them: You guys were a fluke.
Us: Look at our shiny rings!
Them: Yeah but….you guys were a fluke!
Us: That pennant looks so pretty, whipping around in the windy night.
Them: BUT YOU WERE A FLUKE, THIS ISN’T FAIR!
Us: I like garlic fries.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Have you been watching me talk to myself?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 3:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i just want SF to regain the respect of the baseball world (a lot was lot in the final Bonds days), and i dont want to waste the historic pitching either.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
The historic pitching has already been no wasted because they won a World Series.
Besides, no one’s really gonna hold us up as the standard of undeserving World Series winners (sorry, 2006 Cardinals!) so there’s really nothing to worry about here.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
06 Cards
Also, 88 Dodgers and 87 Twins, just off the top of my head
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
The 2000 Yankees were actually not especially good. Only won 87 games and were 12th in the MLB in run differential.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
also
7th in the AL in wOBA and 5th in FIP.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Yeah, them
That team annoyed me so much. Beat the A’s, who were a better team, after the A’s got out to a 2-0 start.
Won the world series when the Giants, also a better team, lost to the freakin’ Mets.
Also, it was their third in a row and fourth in five years.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Yeah, at the time it seemed impossible that they would ever NOT win the World Series, the motherfuckers.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
The 2001 WS made me so happy at the time
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Rivera, for all the talk of him being the best closer, blew the WS Game 7, 2001, and the ALCS, 2004
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair, he blew Game 7 on a dying quail.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
The World Series, I meant. To Luis Gonzalez. With two outs, as I recall.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
IIRC, Rivera let all that get out of hand in the first place. He came in with no outs, no one on, and gave it up
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
he had a bit of an odd line for the game
1.1 IP, 4 hits, 2 R, 1 ER, 3 K, 0 BB.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
what i remember from The 10th Inning was him loading the bases with 1 out, pulling the IF in, and Gonzalez getting jammed and dropping it right on the IF/OF line just right of 2B.
Then the whole 2003 ALCS debacle in Game 4 with Yanks up 3 games to 0.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
He totally jammed Gonzalez.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
which would have resulted in an out if he hadn’t loaded the bases with 1 out in the first place
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, 1 or 2 blown saves in the post-season
Don’t amount to much when your post-season resume is so long and distinguished.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
true that
but those saves couldn’t have come in worse possible moments.
maybe just a case of bad timing
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
those are the only blown saves im thinking of, there may be more
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
b-r doesn't seem to have blown saves as a postseason stat
But he only has one postseason loss in his career, along with an ERA of 0.71, a WHIP of 0.77, and a K/BB ratio of 5.19.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CLUTCH! STATISTICAL IMPROBABILITY!!
(though Uribe makes me a believer)
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Well, he blew the save on his own. But he lost it on a dying quail. I actually blamed Torre for bringing the infield in so far in that situation. In a similar situation in game 6 (Rivera on the mound, runner on third with one out), they didn’t bring the infield in, Rivera jammed the guy, and Jeter caught the soft liner. In game 7, same ball, goes for a hit, series over.
Don’t forget the ERROR in WS Game 7
there’s your shiny trophy AZ, courtesy of the “Greatest Closer’s” boneheaded error.
/not over it
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
im not remembering the error, and they didnt show it in The Tenth Inning. What happened?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
bot 9
- grace : single to CF
- David Dellucci pinch runs for Mark Grace
-* David Dellucci safe at 2b on E1 (throw to 2B on bunt)*
- D. Miller safe at 1st (bunt)
more here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200111040.shtml
No one ever talks about Mariano’s STUPID throw to 2nd (E) instead of getting an out. Set up the entire inning and gave AZ their Championship the one year (post 9-11) I actually wanted NYY to win
/still bitter
Can’t believe they didn’t show that in the 10th inning!
Revisionist history motherfuckers.
/obviously still bitter
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
yes he's the worst pitcher in history
They should have dumped him years ago.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Dude throws to first….28 World Championships.
just sayin’
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Lincecum ran to 3B and didn't make an out
DFA IMMEDIATELY!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
nah…that didn’t matter.
Ill advised errant throw to the wrong base when they are trying to give you an out…in the bottom of the 9th inning in the 7th game of the World Series on the other hand….
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
With this pitching, I’d be getting greedy for another WS… I know this team has it in them.
I didn’t mean to imply that we were undeserving, but I want to show what this team is truly capable of. There’s no point in having great talent if there isn’t going to be an attempt to maximize it.
This is probably the best pitching staff we may ever see the Giants have in our lifetimes. Let’s make the most of it and stay in the top tier
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
We all want another WS, but not winning one certainly wouldn’t mean the pitching was wasted.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I dont think this is coming out the way i wanted it to, lol
i dont think it would be considered wasted (after all, first WS in SF history), but the staff is just so freakin good that I don’t think anyone should be settling for just one WS victory out of them.
I’m just one of those people who demand the most out of everything- I don’t feel content with winning the WS, then not caring who is on the team next year- I still want them to compete and put the best field out there, resigning our best players, but leaving payroll open so Sanchez, Cain and Timmeh can be reupped.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
THE BASEBALL WORLD IS FULL OF BOOBS.
AND NOT THE FUN KIND.
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
you mean the ones that feel like bags of sand?
/40yroldvirgin
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Me so horny? D’oh!!! Me so stupid!!!
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
“it’s cool, those guys were probably just drunk and won’t remember.”
Next Morning, still lying in bed eyes wide open:
“oh god. this is gonna suck”
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Rec'd
…and I consider our 5+ decades of no World Series rings despite plenty of talent and several appearances (even in a game 7) to be more of a “fluke” than Lincecum/Cain/Sanchez/Bumgarner (and occasional Zito) carrying a decent offense through to a World Series victory.
Ask any hater in spring 2010 about the SF Giants, and they all would have said something involving great pitching strengths with questionable hitting. Nobody was dumb enough to doubt our rotation, and through methodical improvements foreseen (Posey) and unforeseen (Ross, Burrell, etc.) our hitting answered the question.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
It’s all about the memories we’ll have of this awesome season. Fuck the haters
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions
Tsuyoshi Nishioka
I’d love to see the Giants take a shot. He’s supposedly (of course I havent’ seen him play) a terrific defensive shortstop. He hit .345. has a high OBP and can run. I have never understood why the Giants don’t look much at Pacific Rim players.
To be fair…other than Ichiro (and maybe Choo)…Position players from the pacific rim have not really panned out.
And maybe Hideki Matsui
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 18, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Hideki Matsui
is not a position player. He’s a professional DH
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Nov 21, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not entirely fair. What is the success ratio of players coming from Japan/Pacific rim? Its probably very similar to those coming out of college.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yeah, but college players don’t get sent straight to the majors.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Or cost as much. That’s the real problem for me is the posting process and having to sign players for major league money. It’s just such an expensive gamble. I’d rather the Giants focused on the less expensive areas of global talent.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t mind the cost b/c they have a higher floor.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Akinori Iwamura, 2010
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
What?
How is it? Looks unobjectionable to me.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
i think what he was trying to say is that players from the Pacific Rim haven’t been able (save a small list of a few) been able to handle the exchange from Japan baseball to MLB.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Not equivilent
That’s like someone saying that “black people generally have darker skin pigmentation then white people” and then calling it race. Sure, you’re making a comment about someone based on their races, but it can hardly be considered “racist”, ie inflammatory in any way.
I know!
Asian people are so hard working and methodical, you know that it’s only a fluke that they haven’t studied their way into successful baseball players.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Too busy making televisions into watches, and vice versa.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 19, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
False
Technically California is part of the Pacific Rim.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 18, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
I’d love to see the Giants take a shot. He’s supposedly (of course I havent’ seen him play) a terrific defensive shortstop.
Is that true? I thought he’s more of a 2B in the majors.
Ask me about my blog.
I’ve never understood this. If he’s a SS in Japan, why can’t he be a SS here? It’s not like it’s a different sport…
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the turf has something to do with it? I don’t think it’s a rule for all SS coming from Japanese ball, just that scouts don’t look at him as a SS in the majors.
Ask me about my blog.
But he does have the arm to play SS in Japan? What’s the difference?
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
They don’t have as many people playing with stronger arms.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Smaller talent pool there.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
B/c the talent level is different, MLB has talent from the world over, while Japan has limited its talent pool to Japan, some eastern Asian countries and MiLB wash ups.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
The Legend of Tommy Hunter
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 3:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
SS in Japan ?!
Well yes if your a Nazi in Japan you’d be a Nazi everywhere !!! J/K
by skunk5150 on Nov 19, 2010 10:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I am pretty sure that Nishioka was actually a 2nd baseman in Japan last year.
But is thought to be drawing interest as a SS in the major leagues.
upon further research...
you are absolutely correct.
Dodgers – 6/$158M
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 18, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre – A’s – 5/75
Pat Burrell – Padres – 1/5
Carl Crawford – Angels – 7/130
Jorge De La Rosa – Nationals – 3/20
Jose Guillen – Jail
Aubrey Huff – Giants – 2/20
Derek Jeter – Yankees – 4/65
Cliff Lee – Yankees – 7/126
Victor Martinez – Tigers – 4/60
Bengie Molina – Retirement
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Fail to Reach Agreement
Edgar Renteria – Marlins – 1/3
Juan Uribe – St. Louis – 2/20
Jayson Werth – Red Sox – 6/120
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Pat get's DFA'd by Padres midseason.
We pick him up for free and he leads us to our second straight playoff appearance.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
by Unitard on Nov 18, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Mat Latos cries. Again.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 3:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
why is everyone saying Pat to SD? did some news break that I’m not aware of?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
It’d be a good fit for them. I’m not sure he’d go for it though. That park would not play to his strengths offensively and would make him look worse defensively.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
big time. LF is so huge there, no way would he start. he’s already so he would return to the Giants even if it was a bench role
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
They’ve got like 800 outfielders. Why do they want another one who is bad at defense (which they emphasize) and isn’t that sure a bet to keep hitting, especially when he moves to that park? In Petco, you want speed LD hitters, not big slow home run guys, because they’ll be hitting a lot of 400 foot outs and getting thrown out at second.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Pat is opposite PetCo park in every way.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Moorad said he wished he would’ve pushed harder for Hoyer to sign him. But that was a while ago.
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 18, 2010 11:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
*after Burrell was DFA'd that is
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 18, 2010 11:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Of course
He got that Ludwick trade done and acquired a better player while giving up pretty much nothing and that didn’t work out so well. Hindsight is 20/20.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Adrian Beltre Oak 5yr/75 mil
Pat Burrell Giants 1yr/5 mil
Carl Crawford Angels 6yr/110 mil
Jorge De La Rosa Nationals 4yr/32 mil
Jose Guillen Expos.
Aubrey Huff Giants 2yr/15 mil
Derek Jeter Yankees 4 yrs/80 mil
Cliff Lee Rangers 6yr/125 mil
Victor Martinez Rangers 4yr/36 mil
Bengie Molina Blue Jays 1yr/3 mil
Tsuyoshi Nishioka Giants 3 yrs/21 mil
Edgar Renteria Padres 1 yr/3 mil
Juan Uribe Astros 4yr/32 mil
Jayson Werth Red Sox 6 yr/100 mil
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I doubt the Astros will pick up Uribe — they traded for Barnes today to be their SS.
Ask me about my blog.
Hmm
Damn you Wade.
In that case I think the Giants will get him back at 3yr/27 mil and not go after Nishioka. Nishioka stays in Japan after the Dodgers blow 15 mil just to talk to him.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Well they don’t pay to talk to him, they pay to sign him. No one would bid if you HAD to pay no matter what.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Also the highest bidding team doesn’t always “win” the bid. Its a combination of bid and likeliness to sign. Since he has a desire to stay on the Pacific Ocean the Giants could theoretically bid 5 million while the twins 10 million and the Giants could still win.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
is that right? interesting. I thought the posting fee went to the team that was losing him, hence, the top bidding team wins the post
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
They can choose which bid to accept. If the Red Sox offer $100 million to keep a guy away from the Yankees and then sit on their hands and don’t sign him, that wouldn’t be good for the posting club. So they have to take likelihood of signing into account.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
ahh. i did not know that. thanks for the info. i just figured it was highest bidder takes the rights
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
This is good news!
I didn’t know they had a choice. This is happy.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
God, I hope not Grant
Dont want to see Pat on the Padres
Dont want to give Crawford 20 mil a year, or 6 years
And I dont want to lose Huff and Uribe
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
counter his with your own prediction!
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Im not saying Grant isnt right, I just HOPE that hes not. Heres mine though
Adrian Beltre – A’s(or Twins. or Boston. I dont know) – 4yrs/ 66 mil
Pat Burrell – Reds – 1yr/ 6 mil
Carl Crawford – Angels – 6yrs/ 108 mil
Jorge De La Rosa – Marlins – 4yrs / 34 mil
Jose Guillen – Retirement (No doubt at all. Bad year, bad attitude and HGH allegations. He gone.
Aubrey Huff – Giants – 2 yrs/ 16 mil
Derek Jeter – Yankees – 4 yrs/ 78 mil
Cliff Lee – Yankees – 6 yrs/ 125 mil
Victor Martinez – Red Sox – 4yrs / 48 mil
Bengie Molina – I copy Grant
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Orioles – 3yrs / 21mil
Edgar Renteria – Cardinals – 1yr/ 3 mil
Juan Uribe – Giants – 2 yrs/ 15 mil
Jayson Werth – Red Sox – 5yrs/ 98 mil
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
relax
I did not mean it that way.
Solid prediction.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
No no, I wasnt saying you were accusing me of being anti grant or anything, I was just clarifying. Very relaxed :)
Thank you for the compliment on the prediction
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
May the best prediction win! FIGHT!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
here's mine:
Adrian Beltre – Giants
Pat Burrell – Giants
Carl Crawford – Giants
Jorge De La Rosa – Giants
Jose Guillen – drug dealer, South Central
Aubrey Huff – Giants
Derek Jeter – Giants
Cliff Lee – Giants
Victor Martinez – Giants
Bengie Molina – food taster, AnywhereTown, USA
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Giants
Edgar Renteria – Giants
Juan Uribe – Giants
Jayson Werth – Giants
Adrian Beltre – Red Sox – 5/75
Pat Burrell – Padres – 1/5
Carl Crawford – Angels – 6/118
Jorge De La Rosa – Nationals – 3/20
Jose Guillen – Jail
Aubrey Huff – Giants – 2/20
Derek Jeter – Yankees – 3/60
Cliff Lee – Yankees – 7/120
Victor Martinez – Tigers – 4/60
Bengie Molina – Blue Jays – 1/3
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Mariners – 3/18
Edgar Renteria – Marlins – 1/3
Juan Uribe – St. Louis – 2/18
Jayson Werth – Red Sox – 6/120
"What makes you think you're Jesus Christ?"
"Well, when I pray I seem to be talking to myself"
You win the Jeter portion ...
WFAN (Francesa) just leaked the Yanks’ first rumored/supposed offer at 3/$63M. For what it’s worth.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Interesting. Jeter wants his fourth year. I think the Yankees will cave, but I wasn’t anticipating they would go over $20 million per year.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
LOL 21 MILLION A YEAR
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
WHAT? HOW DARE THEY EVEN CONSIDER GIVING THE CAPTAIN A SALARY CUT!!!!!!!!!!!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
/new york burns
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
whaaaaaaat
Dude, Jeter, if that’s the deal, take it.
(I seriously doubt that’s the deal though)
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
he was reportedly “unhappy” with a 3 year, $50something deal that was offered
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
He needs to feed his family
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2010 1:47 AM PST up reply actions
Word from the "inside source"
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
And… over at Pinstripe Alley they’re already using the Giants as leverage!
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/11/18/1823035/yankees-dont-owe-jeter-anything?ref=yahoo
Apparently, the Yankees don’t owe him anything.
yeah
he is not coming here. People do not understand what negotiations are like. Neither side there has any leverage, so they have to manufacture it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:33 AM PST up reply actions
Blajeesus, can I have 21 million?
by GrayDilla on Nov 18, 2010 4:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Adrian Beltre A’s 5/70
Pat Burrell Braves 1/5
Carl Crawford Angels 6/110
Jorge De La Rosa Natonals 4/32
Jose Guillen- Reno 911 episode then prison
Aubrey Huff Goodguys 2/20
Derek Jeter skankees life sentence
Cliff Lee rangers 7/110
Victor Martinez Detroit 5/70
Bengie Molina retirement; new man vs food host
Tsuyoshi Nishioka dodgers 3/18
Edgar Renteria florida 1/4
Juan Uribe good guys 3/36
Jayson Werth Red Sox 6/110
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...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions
I somehow wish we could get Justin Upton or Jose Reyes via trade
but we don’t really have the prospects for that trade :(
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...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Reyes is my cousin so I'd like him to play for my team
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
really? Jose Reyes of the NY Mets is your cousin? sweeeeet
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Heck yeah man!
The Reyes family is freaking huge! And my mom was the first one to get an American education!
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre — A’s 5/$80
Pat Burrell – Giants 1/$5
Carl Crawford — Red Sox 7/$140
Jorge De La Rosa — Cardinals 2/$20
Jose Guillen — Beach Bums 1/$500.00; free hot dogs (wife can bring “care packages” into clubhouse)
Aubrey Huff — Giants 2/$16
Derek Jeter — Yankees 10/$100
Cliff Lee — Rangers 5/$120
Victor Martinez — Nationals 3/$65
Bengie Molina – Rangers 1/$5
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Angels 4/$40
Edgar Renteria — Cardinals 1/$5
Juan Uribe — Giants 2/$16
Jayson Werth — Detroit 4/$80
Cliff Lee's career postseason statistics:
GS W-L ERA WHIP
vs. Giants 2 0-2 6.94 1.29
vs. others 8 7-0 1.26 0.73
This is difficult because I'm stupid...
Adrian Beltre – Red Sox, 5/$80M
Pat Burrell – Athletics, 1/$4M
Carl Crawford – Rangers, 5/$85M
Jorge De La Rosa – Brewers, 4/$36M
Jose Guillen – Pirates, 1/$1.5M
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 4/$45M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 4/$60M
Cliff Lee – Yankees, 6/$130M
Victor Martinez – Angels, 5/$62M
Bengie Molina – Dodgers, 1/$5M
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Angels, 5/$50M
Edgar Renteria – Cardinals, 1/$4M
Juan Uribe – Giants, 4/$32M
Jayson Werth – White Sox, 6/$100M
I really like the Burrell prediction.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
I don't think any AL team will take Burrell
And the A’s will be looking for a higher upside with their DH – I’d imagine Berkman or maybe Manny.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
good point.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Although I see him DHing.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
They have Cust and Encarnacion, who are both basically DHs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Seriously though.. A's Outfielders. I dont get it.
Crisp
DeJesus
Sweeney
Conor Jackson
Cust
Unless they plan on playing Jackson at first and DHing Cust (Daric Barton had a nice year though)
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
Its some kind of Voltron type thing.
You will see it when they all form one player.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
by scout6 on Nov 18, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess DH either Jackson or Barton
Drop Cust. the guy is garbage anyways.
Unless the Giants sign him to play 1B. SABES!!
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
Cust can still hit. The A’s will keep him around as the DH I think, unless they sign Manny.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
sounds alot like the 2010 SF Giants OF. when it all comes together, you’ll see a good team next year that might be good for 90 wins.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
LF DeJesus
CF Crisp
RF Sweeney
1B/OF Jackson
1B Barton
DH Cust
That looks about right. And Sweeney can also capably play center.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I’m no good at FA predictacations. But I’ll post my Carl Crawford community projection once he signs with the Giants.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
that’s the safest way to never be wrong
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
You really think we’re signing Crawford?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
i would hope not. gotta leave the payroll flexibility for 2012/13 when Wilson, Sanchez, Cain and Timmeh hit FA and need new contracts. Hopefully they never hit FA and are resigned at the end of next year.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Pat Burrell – Giants, 1/4$
Carl Crawford – Angels, 6/120
Jose Guillen – Retirement
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 2/20
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 4/80
Cliff Lee – Rangers, 6/120
Victor Martinez – Rangers, 4/50
Bengie Molina – Retirement
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Twins, 3/24
Edgar Renteria – Cardinals, 1/4
Juan Uribe – Giants, 2/20
Jayson Werth UNF UNF UNF UNF UNF Tigers =( 5/90
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Heck, I don’t know. I’m just expecting Uribe to go to the Giants on a 2-year deal and Jeter to stay with the Yanks.
There's really no way Uribe doesn't sign with the Giants right?
Well I mean if we don’t win the bid on Nishioka.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Cardinals are really onto UUU.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
I heard that too,
But wouldn’t the Giants HAVE to resign him? I bet if we offered same money/years he’d prefer to play here.
If we don’t tho, who would play SS?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Lol
I’ve had that sig since early 2009, prolly should change it since it’s not going to happen.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
we may see Crawford in end of 2011 or starting 2012.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
which makes you wonder, we only really need Uribe for 1 year.
but if Pablo doesn’t work out, we’ll need Uribe at 3B for 2012 (if crawford works out). Jeez, so many different situations.
Uribe and Huff should be back on 2 year deals for both of them, Pat for 1 year. Then, as repeat WS champs, take it from there :)
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Uribe can play all IF positions
So it’s fine if we sign him to a 2 year
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
My sig is up to date! WHOO KAOHI DOWNING!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Need to change my sig as well..
I still do not have a new adopted son yet :-( Who’s doing the draft this year ?
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for !Matt Downs .
It's not like the Cardinals are in a better position to bid high
They’ve got to be concerned about paying Pujols next year. So far it sounds like our competition is mid-market type teams, and we should be able to compete with them and hopefully if it’s close Uribe decides he’d rather stick around than go someplace new.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
Cardinals can eat shit and enjoy a Brandon (What was his first name?) Bocock
Uribe is ours!
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...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Billy.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Francine.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Ermingard.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 3:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Banana-fanna
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
pretty much anyone interested in a SS
is going to throw money at him first, right?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
But Jeter won a Gold Glove!!!!!!!
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that explains it. They thought they were giving him a Golden Globe.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
that award doesn’t come out until Feb. Ask Derek, he has it circled on his calendar.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Fun
Adrian Beltre-5/70M-A’s
Pat Burrell-1/5M-Braves
Carl Crawford-6/100M-Angels
Jorge De La Rosa-3/27M-Nationals
Jose Guillen-No one
Aubrey Huff-2/16-Giants
Derek Jeter-2/25M-Red Sox (not really just saw this on twitter today and I thought it was funny)
Cliff Lee-6/140M-Yankees
Victor Martinez-4/40M-Dodgers
Bengie Molina-1/2M-Royals
Tsuyoshi Nishioka-3/18M-Twins
Edgar Renteria-1/3M Marlins
Juan Uribe-2/15M Cardinals
Jayson Werth-5/90M-Tigers
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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And yeah I changed some of my earlier answers.
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
DAMON DNW
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Holy. 6/140!!!
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Sub-question: What's the longest contract and the most money you would offer Huff?
My preference is 2 yrs./<=$17 mil.
No 3-year deal, and no more than 9 mil/yr. I’m seeing a lot of posts here that are making me uncomfortable. I love Huff, but I am wary of albatrosses and Belt-blockage.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
We have an open Left Field for Huff
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 18, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
I know. I’m just having trouble buying into this as a long-term solution. I think he’s happier playing 1B. He gets pushed back to 1B by default in any situation when there’s competition in the OF. It’s happened on multiple teams.
Love Huff Daddy, though.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
I think
they’re related…
I wouldn’t mind 3 years at 6/7M a year…I also wouldn’t mind a 1 year 10 million year deal…
But two years…I would probably do 7-8 million a year
“God save thee, ancient mariner, from the fiends
Who plague thee thus! Why looks’t thou so?”
“With my cross-bow I shot the albatross!”
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 3:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I love Iron Maiden.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Verily.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 18, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll always be a bit miffed for people like Coleridge and Spenser who, by writing in an idiom as deliberately fake as deliberately old-fashioned IN THEIR OWN TIME, screwed up my timeline of literature for most of high school.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 9:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Huff and Uribe
I would offer huff 2 yr at $14 mil, and Uribe 2 years at $12 mil. If somebody wants to blow them away with an offer, good for them. We have Belt ready to go ( or will shortly), and Uribe is not really a shortstop anymore.
I think we need Uribe more than Huff..
The other SS are all meh.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Uribe is priority one to me. We have Belt if needed for first, but no real viable SS option
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Sure, Uribe looks great now because we have no shortstop
But how will you feel in 2012 & 2013 watching a $7 million dollar backup, because he can’t really be an everyday shortstop going forward.
i was just saying something upthread just like that- we only really need Uribe for 1 year, but he’s gonna want 2-3 years. I guess he doesn’t have to be an everyday SS, he can play 3B and 2B too. Then there is always the trade option- if he can still play SS adequately.
Bigger problem is, he is a low OBP, high SLG guy, and those tend to decline faster than the average player.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I agree that a SS in the number one priority
I also don’t think that it has to be Uribe.
who, then? Nishioka? Renteria can’t be counted on as a full 162 option, maybe 120 or so.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
No on Nishioka also
With a multi-million dollar posting fee, and a player more suited for 2nd base, no thanks. I’d rather have a 1 yr. deal with Renteria or O. Cabrera than a 3yr. deal with Uribe at those dollars.
whoa whoa wait what?
you’d take your chances with Renteria as your everyday SS? did you not see how much time he spent on the DL?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
did not say everyday...
II’d just rather have him as the primary dude, for 1 yr- $3 mil than Uribe for 3 yr- $24 mil. Honestly, i hope neither of those situations occur, and Sabean finds us a REAL shortstop.
Like who?
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
fine
I’d rather have Orlando Cabrera for 1 year, than Uribe in a bloated 3 year deal. Uribe is not a great baseball player, and he’s not going to get any better, or slimmer. Go ahead and tell me that Fangraphs says he’s a good defensive shortstop. Almost Tulowizki good, in fact. I’m not a believer in the bat, the glove, the waistline. I’d pay Uribe $8 million for 1 year, but not $24 for 3.
Like who? Hardy? While a “real” SS would have better defense, we lose the offense from Uribe’s bat. And considering that we need all the offense we can get (since the pitching is more than good enough to account for the same defense we got in 2010 from Uribe at SS) then why is a “real” SS so important?
We only have to wait a year or two for Crawford, so why not sign Uribe for 2-3 years?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
you’re entitled to your opinion, for sure, but I think we can count on Uribe for a few years. We’ve got the possibility of Crawford in 2012, and Uribe, as we’ve seen, can also play 3B very well if needed.
I just see the need to replace his bat, if we’re gonna go after a defense-oriented SS.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Uribe is 30.
Why could he not be the everyday SS at 33?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Weight + Range + Age, would be my guess. Personally, I think he’ll be an everyday SS until he’s 33 or so, then he’ll move to 3B
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
you are right
low OBP, high SLG do not age well.
i wasnt the one originally saying Urbe couldn’t be an everyday SS going forward. i think he has another 3-4 years before he’d move to 3rd
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
But he’s only 30! We’re not talking about a 33 year old, or 34 year old… we’re talking about a 30 year old man who had one of the best seasons of his career last year. There’s nothing indicating he can’t continue to put up his power numbers. His arm isn’t going anywhere. His range might decline… but again… he only 30. A 2 or 3 year deal doesn’t seem insane. I’d prefer two, granted… but he should be able to play just fine at 32 or 33.
am I the only one
that without a speck of evidence wonders about the date on his birth certificate from the DR?
That said, still in the “better than anyone else” camp on UUUU.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
yeah lets not get into why he started hitting more HRs than ever before at 36
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well, in 2007 his last year playing..when he was under heavy scrutiny about PEDs, he still managed to hit 28 HRs at the age of 43. Here’s the thing about PEDs and baseball. Yeah, they cheat the game, but you still need to have enough talent to put the sweet spot of the bat on the ball consistently to put the ball over the fence. You can have all the strength in the world but still suck because you were never really any good in the first place (e.g. Guillen). So yes, PED’s=bad, but Bonds was still am incredibly talented player with or without those PED’s
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
This
And to emphasize it: Bonds racked up his numbers in a league full of juiced batters.
He would have been tops in the league with a level non-PED playing field as surely as he was dominant in the PED era.
That’s what the Bonds haters refuse to see.
Adrian Beltre – Tards 5/$65
Pat Burrell – Rockies1/$7
Carl Crawford – Jays 6/$117 (LOL FRED)
Jorge De La Rosa – Marlins 3/$27
Jose Guillen – FBI/WPP
Aubrey Huff – Giants 2/$20
Derek Jeter – Yankmes 5/$100
Cliff Lee – Rangers 6/$125
Victor Martinez – Yankmes 5/$90
Bengie Molina – Univision 5/$2
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – No Idea
Edgar Renteria – Giants 1/$1
Juan Uribe – Giants 3/$21
Jayson Werth – Red Sux 5/$100
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I would gladly pay Uribe 21 bucks and Huff 20. I got that on my right now.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
The question remains,
would you take Rent for a buck?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I wish my rent was only a buck.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
That Rent is too damn high!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
YES! I was hoping someone would have responded with this!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I dont see the Yankees going after Martinez with Montero in the minors
The Yankmes either..
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
Trade bait for Felix.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I like it
Thats actually not bad to be honest. I dont know why I didnt think of that part. Not specifically the Felix part, but the just trading Montero part. Thats what the Yankees seem to do (Austin Jackson)
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
I think they will lose out on Lee
and then panick by trying to “steal” the Red Sox top unsigned FA.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Then they will need to trade for a pitcher.
Felix was just top of mind today.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
My predictions for what I would LIKE to see as a fan of baseball/the Giants..
Adrian Beltre – A’s – 4yrs/ 66 mil (It would make them watchable during days the Giants dont play)
Pat Burrell – Giants – 1yr/ 5 mil
Carl Crawford – Giants – 5yrs/ 85 mil
Jose Guillen – Retirement
Aubrey Huff – Giants – 2 yrs/ 16 mil
Derek Jeter – Yankees – 8 yrs/ 1 Billion
Cliff Lee – Kansas City –Free
Victor Martinez – Red Sox – 15yrs / 270 mil (let him decay with them too lengthy of a deal, Jorge Posada style)
Bengie Molina – Giants – 1 day (retire JT Snow style. Bengie was a good Giant)
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Arizona – 6yrs / 90 mil (they then trade Drew)
Edgar Renteria – Giants – 1yr/ 3 mil (I would be nice to see him do a sort of victory lap with us in ’11)
Juan Uribe – Giants – 2 yrs/ 15 mil
Jayson Werth – Dodgers – 8yrs/ 160 mil (and then he goes back to playing how he always used to when with them)
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
Bengie Molina – Giants – 1 day (retire JT Snow style. Bengie was a good Giant)
Ugh, no.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Yeah...
Bengie was a good Giant, but he was only around for three years or so. JT was around much longer than that.
That was what was going through Timmy’s mind in the bottom of the seventh of Game Five. Then Buster called time and went to him and reminded him, “I’m with you now.”
He leaned close. “Forget him,” he whispered, his lips hidden in the fragrant tangles of Tim’s raven hair.
Tim stared straight ahead, his mouth hidden by his glove. His gaze shifted and trembled; then it fixed on the vast expanse of blue and gray that was Molina, and hardened into jagged whorls of verdigris.
“He gone,” he affirmed.
Posey smiled fractionally.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 9:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He only really had one especially good year – 1 year over 2 WAR. J.T. had four, including two right around the 4 WAR mark.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Not to mention being one of the best defensive 1st basemen ever.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Snow woulda had it!!!
There are not a lot of players I miss more than J.T. Snow…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Yeah Im with you. I still wear my Snow jersey to all the games
I dont really have an opinion when it comes to Bengie really then.
I would root for him to go to another contender and try and get another ring, but seeing as how the Giants are going to repeat next year, beating Bengie again in the WS just seems like it would be rubbing it in.
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
as hopefully the last "Bengie was a good giant" thread we'll have to endure
Is there a link or script of whatever Miyaeachaeael Urbane said about Bengie as a bad teammate?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Someone is looking forward to the “Bengie IS a good giant” thread!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
/flashes back to last December
nah, that can’t happen.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Really? I never saw that. I'd like to read that though if true.
Its always kind of interesting to hear about which guys are good and bad teammates behind closed doors.
You can only form so much of an opinion of that matter as a fan from seeing their behavior in the dugout during games.
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
I could be wrong but I get the sense that if Bengie were to retire JT Snow-style, he’d do it with the Angels.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yeah most likely. But I wouldnt really care that much if that were to happen
Its funny because f*** the dodgers
Just saw this on Grant's post
V.I.P. passes to the Gold Room at the McCovey Chronicles Lounge
Q1: Will there be sex there?
Q2: Who will be in there? (I regret asking this question)
Not Alyssa Milano, Barry Zito can attest to that.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 18, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Get Dennis Rodman or I’m never going premium!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
The sex is mandatory and your partner is assigned.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 18, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
And you don’t know what gender your partner will be
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’s like the Moonies but more random.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 18, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Just be glad if you get a human. There are llamas and goats. And goatse.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 9:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
/prays for a llama
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2010 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
/signs up
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2010 1:53 AM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre — Red Sox 4/$55
Pat Burrell – Giants 1/$3
Carl Crawford — Yankees 7/$130
Jorge De La Rosa — Brewers 3/$30
Jose Guillen — Astros 1/$1
Aubrey Huff — Giants 2/$18
Derek Jeter — Yankees 3/$50
Cliff Lee — Nationals 6/$150
Victor Martinez — Tigers 4/$45
Bengie Molina – Blue Jays 1/$4
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Mariners 4/$30
Edgar Renteria — Rockies 1/$3
Juan Uribe — Cardinals 3/$30
Jayson Werth — Angels 5/$100
Not safe for work, but...
This site’s traffic is blowing up because of people search for “Eva Longoria” on Yahoo! France’s image search:
Tracy Morgan from 30 Rock wants to know if you Google yourself?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
sometimes i like to leave the door open when i google myself
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre 4/$56 redsox
Pat Burrell 1/ less than $3 dodgers
Carl Crawford 5/$90 angels
Jorge De La Rosa 3/$39 nationals
Jose Guillen who the fuck cares ?
Aubrey Huff 2/ $14 giants
Derek Jeter 3/ $63 yankees
Cliff Lee 5/ $110 yankees
Victor Martinez 4 /$48 tigers
Bengie Molina see guillen
Tsuyoshi Nishioka $8.5 posting fee 4/ $30
Edgar Renteria 1/ $2 marlins
Juan Uribe 3/ $22 cardinals
Jayson Werth 5/ $80 redsox
if Pat can be had for $3mil or less, he’ll be playing for SF
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
maybe, but i don't think he's essential going forward.
If Huff signs, with Derosa and Belt in the fold I doubt we sign burrell at any price.
since we don’t know what we would get out of DeRosa (and since Belt is a prospect with no set callup date), signing Burrell as everyday LF for the first few months until Belt is up might be the best course of action, barring a big FA signing.
From there, you have a very good PH in Pat.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Also
Adam Dunn 3/45 Yankees
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
can't see the yankees signing a DH
With montero and posada already in place.
That’s going to be hilarious.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 18, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
You mean...
Golden Glove Shortstop Derek “Cheater” Jeter? His defense is WAAAAAAAAAAAY too valuable to use him as a DH! Don’t be silly.
by haemaker on Nov 18, 2010 10:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He’s probably gonna cheat on Minka Kelly
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2010 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
yet another reason he ain't coming here
no supermodels to troll.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions
Dunn takes pride in being a NL player, bet he stays in the NL for now
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
can't do contracts but
Adrian Beltre- LA Angels
Pat Burrell- Diamondbacks
Carl Crawford-6/100M-Angels
Jorge De La Rosa- Pirates
Jose Guillen- San Diego Surf Dawgs
Aubrey Huff- Giants
Derek Jeter- Yankees
Cliff Lee-6/140M-Yankees
Victor Martinez- Boston
Bengie Molina-Texas
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- Dodgers
Edgar Renteria- Giants 1 year deal or Retirement
Juan Uribe- STL (but hopefully us)
Jayson Werth- Boston
Semi OT
has there been intelligence about Renteria wanting to play for FLA or are we just assuming because he’s from Miami?
he told ESPN Desportes he’d like to play for FLA or STL and I’m assuming SF if it works out
by posey yaknowsy on Nov 18, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Ok thanks.
Yeah i hope we sign him to like a 1 year/ 1 million bench role deal with some sort of injury clause. But if that doesn’t work out i’m good with letting him go to either of those two teams.
Yea I’m with ya, but probably could get 2 mill or so from open market so not sure how it will go down. He seems like a proud dude and wouldn’t play if he couldn’t (as we’ve seen) so maybe that pride insists he doesn’t play for less than 2
by posey yaknowsy on Nov 18, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Rent and Pat could be had for $5 mil total, both on one year deals
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
I laugh at the club paying rent 5 mil. Man I hope thats not us
by posey yaknowsy on Nov 18, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
TOTAL.
Rent and Pat could be had for $5mil TOTAL, between the two. Maybe $2 for Rent, $3 for Pat
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
HA didn’t see that before. Yea, I think you’re right on
Giants should do it for ~5 or 6
by posey yaknowsy on Nov 18, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre – Red Sox, 5/$70M
Pat Burrell – Phillies, 1/$5M (platoon partner for Dom Brown)
Carl Crawford – Red Sox, 7/$100M
Jorge De La Rosa – Reds, 3/$30M
Jose Guillen – Retirement
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 2/$14M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 3/$60M
Cliff Lee – Yankees, 6/$120M
Victor Martinez – Tigers, 4/$60M
Bengie Molina – Rangers, 1/$5M
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Dodgers, 4/$24M
Edgar Renteria – Cardinals, 1/$3M
Juan Uribe – Giants, $2/$14M
Jayson Werth – Angels, 5/$90M
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Interesting
On a per year basis, most McCoven think Lee will get less than CC ($23m) from the Yankees.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
He’s older than C.C., period.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
lol looks like grant read my comment
Adrian Beltre: a’s 5/75m
Pat Burrell giants 1/3m
Carl Crawford angels 6/ 125m
Jorge De La Rosa brewers 2/15m
Jose Guillen: dodgers 1/ their soul
Aubrey Huff giants 2/18m
Derek Jeter yankees 4/80m
Cliff Lee rangers 6/ 130m
Victor Martinez rangers 4/70m
Bengie Molina: retired
Tsuyoshi Nishioka: Giants 3/21m
Edgar Renteria: retired
Juan Uribe: cardinals 3/24m
Jayson Werth: red sox 5/90m
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 18, 2010 4:24 PM PST reply actions
Wow… I’d rather have Uribe at 3/24M than Nishioka at 3/21M plus a posting fee, so I hope that doesn’t happen.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
so, in unrelated but baseball-related news
My mom was cleaning out her basement and found some of my old stuff, including a Little League trophy and team picture, some old books, and early-90s issues of Beckett Baseball Card Monthly and Mad Magazine.
I was looking at one issue of Beckett (which I used to read religiously) and it had an article about players with a shot at 500 home runs. The guy with the best shot, according to the article, was Ruben Sierra.
Oops!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
that’s pretty funny after reading Dave Cameron’s article on Justin Upton. He refers to Ruben Sierra and just a good role player (rather than “all-star”) and a bunch of the commenters said he wasn’t giving Sierra his due.
WWRWD?
Well, he WAS an All-Star three times.
He was a very good hitter in his peak from 1989-1992, but he was thoroughly mediocre for years and years after that. 105 OPS+ for his career. And an extremely poor defensive outfielder as I recall.
His son is in the minors now, but appears to kinda suck.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
it's kind of crazy how long he lasted, actually
His peak was pretty much over by 1993, but he played until 2006 – despite being basically a DH/PH and having an OPS+ over 100 once from 1995-2006.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
IIRC his son was drafted last year and is pretty raw
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 19, 2010 12:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
*last year meaning 09
The Zack Wheeler draft, not the Gary Brown draft
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 19, 2010 12:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
KLaw v. Jeff Fletcher!
keithlaw keithlaw
@JeffFletcherAOL Marginal wins wouldn’t be affected by teammates. Marginal standings spots is way beyond player’s control.
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
@keithlaw I agree. But standings are what counts. I think both are valid definitions of “value.”
keithlaw keithlaw
@JeffFletcherAOL “Standings are what counts” for teams. These are individual awards, not who had the best teammates.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
@keithlaw The point is which individuals helped their teams the most. That can be in wins (65 to 75) or standing (2nd to 1st)
Without Felix…the Mariners probably would have lost another 10-15 games.
Crazy thing is..
Since they were .500 when he started (17-17), they played at a 49 win pace when he didn’t.. Which was 12 wins below what they ended at.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Fletcher doesn’t have a vote, right?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 18, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Or a clue!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn't he the one who hated the Bengie deal
Because Posey was in a bit of a slump?
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 19, 2010 12:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
OT: Anyone know what the countdown timer on the top banner is for?
Currently showing 65:22:38 – which if my math is right takes us to 10am Sunday.
/baseball apocalypse?
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Something to do with Vodka.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
We’re all getting shitfaced because when that timer reaches 00:00:00, Sabean will announce our new 1B: LaRoche for 4/40
by posey yaknowsy on Nov 18, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Protip: Large Prawn makes a Bloody
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
you’re out of time!! BUY ALL THE CHICKEN YOU CAN NOW!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I want to beat the cluck out of chicken
"Yes, my cousin is, ummm, Eliezer Alfonzo" - my response to Dodger Stadium security
Here we go
Adrian Beltre- Red Sox 5yrs/75mil
Pat Burrell- Diamondbacks, 2yrs/10mil
Carl Crawford- Red sox, 6yrs/120mil
Jorge De La Rosa- Marlins 3yrs/21mil
Jose Guillen- coming to a court room near you
Aubrey Huff- Giants, 2 yrs/20mil
Derek Jeter- Yankees, 3yrs/63mil
Cliff Lee- Yankees, 6yrs/120mil
Victor Martinez- Tigers, 6yrs/80mil
Bengie Molina- Retired
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- Giants 3yrs/15mil
Edgar Renteria- Cardinals 1yr/3mil
Juan Uribe- Cardinals 4yrs/24mil
Jayson Werth- Tigers 5yrs/90mil
Adopted father of Eric Surkamp, the next great big-eared soft tossing lefty in SF Giants History!
I'd be happy if i got half of these right
Adrian Beltre – Red Sox, 4/$70M
Pat Burrell – Diamondbacks, 1/$6M
Carl Crawford – Angels, 6/$128M
Jorge De La Rosa – Rangers, 3/$30M
Jose Guillen – The Glue Factory
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 2/$18M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 3/$45M
Cliff Lee – Yankees, 5/$128M
Victor Martinez – Rangers, 4/$50M
Bengie Molina – The Buffet Line
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Giants, 2/$10M
Edgar Renteria – Dodgers, 1/$2.5M
Juan Uribe – Cardinals, 3/$24M
Jayson Werth – Nationals, 5/$95M
Just like Happy Gilmore.
Well, good for happy gilmor- my GOD!
by posey yaknowsy on Nov 18, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
My picks
Adrian Beltre 5/65 Angels
Pat Burrell 1/3.5M Mariners
Carl Crawford 6/102M Angels
Jorge De La Rosa 4/28M Mets, the Mets are dumb and will pay him 28M to be Oliver Perez
Jose Guillen 0/0M retired
Aubrey Huff 2/15M Giants
Derek Jeter 3/54M Yankees
Cliff Lee 5/110M Texas
Victor Martinez 4/48M Detroit
Bengie Molina 1/2M WhiteSox
Tsuyoshi Nishioka 4/28 Mariners
Edgar Renteria1/3M Cardinals
Juan Uribe 3/21 Giants
Jayson Werth 5/75 Tigers
"You need to get real!"
My total bullshit guesses
Adrian Beltre- Red Sox 4/65
Pat Burrell- Padres 1/5
Carl Crawford-Angels 6/120
Jorge De La Rosa- Nationals 3/35
Jose Guillen- lol
Aubrey Huff- Giants 2/12
Derek Jeter- Yankees 4/60
Cliff Lee- Rangers 7/140
Victor Martinez- Rangers 3/45
Bengie Molina- Rangers 1/3
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- Dodgers 3/24
Edgar Renteria- Cardinals 1/4.5
Juan Uribe- Giants 2/15
Jayson Werth- Red Sox- 5/100
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
man
7 years/140M seems ridiculous for anything that doesn’t launch missiles or print money, but here we are.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Whitman went 7 months and 140 million and got bupkis...
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Totally OT: Anyone know why the lights are on at AT&T?
I just looked out my window and got really excited!
JOURNEY RECONCILIATION
feat. the cast of “Glee”
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Gives Merope a bucket. Grabs another bucket for myself.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
McCovglee chronicles lives!
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 18, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Also
I just looked out my window and got really excited!
TNWGSWHSH
(That’s not what Grant said when he saw howtheyscored.)
some kind of Big Game rally?
I dunno.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 18, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe they are measuring the spot for a certain banner or two they need to raise sometime in …oh…say…April?
Welcome Back Bengie?
/scratches head
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Who's the Giant equivalent of a Tight End?
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
whoa
you obviously live between my apartment and Mays Field.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
This has been big talk on KNBR lately too !!
Just relax its them getting ready for the bowl game, they have a lot to do to change it to a football field….which reminds me. Cal will be playing games here next year, any effect on the turf….I think so !
by skunk5150 on Nov 19, 2010 11:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Posting from my time machine
Adrian Beltre – A’s, 5/$65M
Pat Burrell – Giants, 1/$4M
Carl Crawford – Angels, 6/$122M
Jorge De La Rosa – Reds, 4/$30M
Jose Guillen – Court, 2/$10M
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 2/$16M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 4/$55M
Cliff Lee – Yankees, 5/$130M
Victor Martinez – White Sox, 4/$40M
Bengie Molina – Rangers, 1/$2M
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Twins, 2/$17M
Edgar Renteria – Giants, 1/$3M
Juan Uribe – Cardinals, 3/$20M
Jayson Werth – Red Sox, 5/$100M
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
YAY
Grant and McCoveyChronicles make me happy. I just finished a week full of tests :(
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
BUT On the plus side..
My world series flag is here! And hoodie!
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
I know how you feel
Midterms last Friday, two days ago, and today. Two homework assignments due tomorrow. My teachers apparently hate us for being young and full of potential.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
But we’re getting the midterms back before Thanksgiving. One of them got graded and posted like four hours after we took it, and we’re getting another one back tomorrow.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Oh, I dont know
Adrian Beltre
Pat Burrell – SF 1/4M
Carl Crawford – LAA 6/100M
Aubrey Huff – SF 2/18M
Bengie Molina – Retired
Edgar Renteria – Retired
Juan Uribe – SF 3/22M
Jayson Werth – BOS 4/85M
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 18, 2010 5:53 PM PST reply actions
Adrian Beltre-5/$70 Red Sox
Pat Burrell-2/$8 Padres
Carl Crawford-6/130 Red Sox
Jorge De La Rosa-3/30 Nationals
Jose Guillen- Pros vs. Joes 500k
Aubrey Huff- 2/17 Giants
Derek Jeter- 3-70 Yankees
Cliff Lee-6/150 Rangers
Victor Martinez-4/45 Rangers
Bengie Molina-2/6 LOLROYALS
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- don’t care
Edgar Renteria- Fox Sports w/ Ozzie Guillen + Eric Karros
Juan Uribe-3/24 Cardinals
Jayson Werth 5/95 Angels
Grant Brisbee- Fanhouse 3/300 k
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 18, 2010 5:56 PM PST reply actions
What do I win? Did I win?
Adrian Beltre – A’s – 5/$65M
Pat Burrell – Giants – 1/$5M
Carl Crawford – Angels – 7/$120M
Jorge De La Rosa – Marlins – 3/$30M
Jose Guillen – GIDP
Aubrey Huff – Giants – 2 yrs/$20M
Derek Jeter – Yankees – 3/$60M
Cliff Lee – Yankees – 6/$120M
Victor Martinez – Tigers – 4/$50M
Bengie Molina – retired
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Twins – 3/$24M
Edgar Renteria – Cardinals – 1/$2M
Juan Uribe – Giants – 3/$25M
Jayson Werth – Red Sox – 5/$100M
Fun Game
Adrian Beltre
A’s: 4/68
Pat Burrell
D’Backs: 1/4.5
Carl Crawford
Angels: 6/118
Jorge De La Rosa
Pirates: 3/28.5
Jose Guillen
F/A throughout the season, retires after not being signed November 2011
Aubrey Huff
Giants: 3/25
Derek Jeter
Yankees: 4/68
Cliff Lee
Yankees: 7/130
Victor Martinez
Tigers: 4/65
Bengie Molina
Rangers: 1/5
Tsuyoshi Nishioka
Dodgers: 5/50
Edgar Renteria
Cardinals: 1/5
Juan Uribe
Giants: 3/30
Jayson Werth
Red Sox: 5/90
by Michael Uhlhorn on Nov 18, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions
either formatting fail or its just me, but that is really hard to read
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
File under: Keeping the band together, man....
Adrian Beltre – Orioles, 5/$75M
Pat Burrell – Giants, 1/$5M
Carl Crawford – Angels, 6/$110M
Jorge De La Rosa – Yankees, 3/$30M
Jose Guillen – * LOST* ?/4, 8, 15, 16, 23, & 42
Aubrey Huff – Giants, 2/$20M
Derek Jeter – Yankees, 4/$53M
Cliff Lee – Rangers, 5/$110M
Victor Martinez – Tigers, 3/$42M
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Padres 3/$18M
Edgar Renteria – Giants, 1/$2M
Juan Uribe – Giants, 3/$24M
Jayson Werth – Yanks, 5/$95M
Justin Upton – traded to Red Sox
Marco Scutaro – traded to Cardinals
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 8:14 PM PST reply actions
You just said no Uribe and Huff for ratings, huh.
Why don’t we just give you a chalk board for low brow witticisms and an Atari joy stick buzzer to determine worth (no pun intended) therein? Winky face. I know you mean well. But seriously… frowny face.
argh i hate even reading the word chalkboard, it gives me chills. something about fingernails scraping on a chalkboard in some horror movie i saw when i was a kid
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
OT: All time band
my friends and I are arguing about what the all time band would look like
mine:
frontman/vocals: Freddy Mercury
lead guitar: Keith Richards
rhythm: Pete Townshend
drums: Levon Helm + Bill Kreutzmann
occasional wail: Roger Daltrey
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 18, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions
Chris Robinson
Johnny Greenwood
Malcom Young (Izzy understudy)
John Bonham
and bass, carrot top… Mike Watt
Chris Cornell on wails.
chris robinson good call
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 18, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
needs moar dead people:
vox/rhythm guitar: Steve Marriot
bass/vox: Phil Lynott
lead guitars: Michael Bloomfield / John Cipollina
keys: Nicky Hopkins
drums: Buddy Miles
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
this is a very obscure and well thought out list
plays as a team rather than being a collection of all stars
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 18, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
a collection of dead misfits?
;-)
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
frontman/vocals
Not Geddy Lee?
/being mischievous
by non sequitur on Nov 18, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Not enough wins over replacement bassist to justify taking up two slots.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
J
Vocals: Jeff Buckley
Lead Guitar: John Fogarty
Guitar: Josh Homme
Bass: John Deacon
Drums: John Bonham
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 18, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
John
vox: John Belushi
guitar: John Frusciante
bass: John Kahn
keys: Jonathan Cain
drums: Johnny Vidacovich
this would not be a good method of band building.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Personal preference...
vocals: Peter Gabriel
lead guitar: Mark Knopfler
rhythm guitar: Sam Phillips (the female singer, not the dead record exec)
bass: James McNew
drums: Jay Bellerose
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 18, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Giants have to use their WS cash
Adrian Beltre A’s 5/55
Pat Burrell Giants 1/4
Carl Crawford Angels 7/122
Jorge De La Rosa Nats 4/40
Jose Guillen community service/$14/hr
Aubrey Huff Giants 2/16
Derek Jeter Yanks 3/45
Cliff Lee Yanks 5/88
Victor Martinez Detroit 5/65
Bengie Molina Texas 1/4
Tsuyoshi Nishioka Dodgers 3/18
Edgar Renteria Florida 1/4
Juan Uribe Giants 3/26
Jayson Werth Red Sox 5/84
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
i think most of the WS cash flows in the following year in attendance. the team probably only got $15mil for winning the WS, but still, agree, use that $15mil to get Pat and pay for most of Huff/Uribe in 2011
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
don't discount the amount of extra merchandise they've sold though
both at the ballpark and at the dugout stores (not sure what their cut of the online stuff is).
This has built their brand immensely. They need to capitalize on it by continuing to win. That doesn’t mean they need to go out there and make the splashy signing, but it does mean they should spend a little extra in the short term if need be to get the guy they really want and continue solidifying San Francisco as a baseball town.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think
The best way to solidify SF as a baseball town is to pay the Niners to just keep doing what they’re doing.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Might as well join the party...
Adrian Beltre — Red Sox 3/$48
Pat Burrell – Giants 1/$3
Carl Crawford — Angels 6/$85
Jorge De La Rosa — Nationals 3/$20
Jose Guillen — Banned by MLB
Aubrey Huff — Giants 2/$18
Derek Jeter — Yankees 25/$120
Cliff Lee — Rangers 5/$100
Victor Martinez — Tigers 4/$40
Bengie Molina – Rangers 1/$3
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Dodgers 3/$20
Edgar Renteria — Cardinals 1/$5
Juan Uribe — Giants 2/$18
Jayson Werth — LOLMets 6/$100
Get er dun Sabez
A baseball source familiar with the Nats’ thinking tells Bill Ladson of MLB.com that Josh Willingham will most likely be traded before 2011. Yesterday, we learned that the Nats are unlikely to offer the outfielder an extension this winter. Washington controls Willingham for one more season and the slugger’s agent Matt Sosnick says that his client has no animosity towards the club.
MMmm
Willingham is an old white whale of mine from the 2009 trade deadline.
It wouldn’t be pretty defensively, but….
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Willingham LF
Ross RF
Uribe SS
Sandoval 3B
The only question for me would be this – How much better do you think Willingham would be than Burrell? I think I’d rather sign Pat the Bat back to a short cheap deal than give up prospects for The Hammer.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I like Willingham much better than Burrell
I kinda think we caught lightning in a bottle with Burrell. Motivated, chip on his shoulder, playing for his hometown team.
That World Series performance showed me how bad Burrell can be. I know guys go through rough patches but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy strikeout that much. It terrified me.
Oh shit
Are you telling me that Pat Burrell might be a bad hitter over the course of 5 games at some point next year?!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Haha I know I know
My broader point is that I think the risk of Burrell falling off a cliff is significant.
Oh, sure
I’m not saying we lock Burrell up for 4 years or anything.
But I’m not sure LF is really a place to look to upgrade – unless you want to get Crawford or Werth or something.
Just bring back Pat. If that doesn’t work out, we have DeRosa. Or call up Belt and move Huff to left.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But, like
He’s basically Pat Burrell. Good hitter, bad defense. Now, Willingham is infinitely more consistent, especially recently. But I see the math like this:
Willingham is a career .265/.367/.475 hitter
Pat Burrell is a career .254/.362/.475 hitter
One of these would take a not-insignificant package of prospects to acquire. One can be gotten for very little money.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I didn't realize till I just looked up the stats
I’m actually kinda surprised how similar their numbers are.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
NO YOU BUTTHOLE
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
But do you like like him?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
You think they will have the same numbers next year?
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
Nah.
I’d bet Willingham will be a better hitter, sure. If I was projecting, I’d mark Willingham down for, say, an .850 OPS.
But I’d bet Burrell could put up a .800
And since they play pretty similar defense, the question becomes if you want to give up prospects AND pay Willingham more money than Burrell to get that .50 points of OPS.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
His agent said that Rizzo wanted Dirty/MadBum for him at the deadline this year
If that’s true, I wonder the price for Dunn was
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
by Gobroks on Nov 19, 2010 12:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
OT: Potential solution for A's ballpark
I must say, this potential solution is quite captivating:
A viable alternative is hiding in plain view. In the 1970s, a giant trench was dug through state land for Interstate 980 that cut off the economically challenged West Oakland neighborhood from downtown. If a ballpark were constructed on a deck above the freeway, the A’s could find a new home and the city could reunite its neighborhoods.
Can’t imagine it? Visualize connecting the 14th and 18th street bridges over the freeway, as in the illustration above, to create the deck for the ballpark and an 800-car garage.
Read more: SFGate
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
intriguing
The space between Broadway and 980 always struck me as underutilized, but I never thought of building a ballpark on top of 980 itself. And “980 Park” is a beautifully horrible name.
These “Ballpark Village” proposals must ring hollow by now. They’re about justifying public funding, right? How many of the post-Camden ballparks that had Village proposals actually have done anything? The St. Louis ballpark is the one that immediately comes to mind. I think there’s still just a hole in the ground where the Village is supposed to be, now five years after the park’s opening.
by non sequitur on Nov 18, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
"Ballpark Village"
is the real estate that inevitably must be sold to generate revenue to pay for the stadium. That was a good idea in 2007.
Future property taxes and land rent from 980 Park would give Oakland a return on its investment.
Sadly, property tax revenues are flat at best and have been for more than two years. That model assumes real estate prices increase, and unless UCSF is going to pour jillions into research facilities along MLK, that garden spot of Oakland is not going to be attracting hordes of anything for a while.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:45 AM PST up reply actions
is the real estate that inevitably must be sold to generate revenue to pay for the stadium. That was a good idea in 2007.
lol real estate bubble!
by non sequitur on Nov 19, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
I came across Inside Job on rotten tomatoes. Gonna have to check that out when it comes out on DVD.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I’ve heard about it, haven’t seen it. The one I like is CNBC’s “House of Cards”. It’s two years old but it’s informative, accessible, and well-produced.
by non sequitur on Nov 19, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
interestingly enough
headed to see that (finally) this evening. I hope they talk about rating agencies.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
So we're talking about shutting down 980 for how long?
Is this even possible from an engineering perspective? Have they looked at anything in Alameda? You could build another bridge to Alameda for the cost required to build a magic deck over 980.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I'm sure that structurally this could be done safely
but am I the only one who reads this plan and immediately thinks of terrifying earthquake scenarios?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
as opposed to
a stadium build on nice, solid bay mud and Gold Rush-era ship skeletons?
There’s a marker on the north side of King Street that shows where the city used to end.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 7:25 AM PST up reply actions
I'll try to remember next time I walk by
there are a few scattered around there.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
There’s one on the corner of market and first street too. Apparently the end of the city used to run along battery streety and then along first street.
WWRWD?
Yep. The Old Ship saloon on Pacific and Battery used to actually be in a ship. The ship is still somewhere under the building.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Actually I thought of homers hit out of the park and hitting windshields at 60-80mph
but yes, that’s a scary thought, also.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
nice inflammatory statement he adds too
San Jose will probably prove futile because Major League Baseball owners will most likely veto any attempt to poach territorial rights already granted to the San Francisco Giants.
Somebody should call Bud and tell him to roll his toilet paper back up- looks like the report isn’t necessary.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
You had me at "giant trench"
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
TWHS?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 19, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
That's pretty crazy
Just eyeballing it on Google Maps, it looks like an even tighter space than 3rd and King. I’m not seeing how you could fit a ballpark there without taking out a good chunk of the existing neighborhood as well.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 19, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
I'm no Brian Sabean or anything...
Adrian Beltre- Red Sox 4/$70
Pat Burrell- Pads 1/$4
Carl Crawford- Angels 5/$90
Jorge De La Rosa- Nats 3/$25
Jose Guillen- BALCO 5/Unlimited HGH
Aubrey Huff- Giants 2/$16
Derek Jeter- Yanks 5/$500
Cliff Lee- Yanks 7/$126
Victor Martinez- Tigers 3/$24
Bengie Molina- Rangers 1/$4
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- Dodgers 3/$18
Edgar Renteria- Giants 1/$4
Juan Uribe- Giants 2/$14
Jayson Werth- Red Sox 5/$80
No relation to Shawn Chacon. I promise.
I would be shocked and really pissed
If Pat Burrell signed a contract for less than 5 million dollars with a team other than the Giants.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Here goes nothing...
Adrian Beltre – Boston 5/$80
Pat Burrell – Braves 1/$5
Carl Crawford – Angels 6/$100
Jorge De La Rosa – Brewers 3/$20
Jose Guillen – Jail
Aubrey Huff – Rangers 2/$20 :(
Derek Jeter – Yankees 4/$80
Cliff Lee – Yankees 7/$130
Victor Martinez – Tigers 5/$80
Bengie Molina – Rangers 1/$6
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Dodgers 2/$12
Edgar Renteria – Dodgers 1/$4
Juan Uribe – Cardinals 3/$20 :(
Jayson Werth – Red Sox 6/$90
Ryan Garko – Giants 3/$40
BOOK ’EM
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Also, what happened, we win a world series and...
Sabean doesn’t sign a bunch of savvy gamer veteran vets? WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE JOKES like:
Dave Roberts: 3/$15
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
List of people we would actually be looking at had we not won a world series:
Jermaine Dye
Johnny Damon
Scott Posednik
Jim Thome
Edgar Renteria
Jamie Moyer
Craig Counsell
Geoff Blum
Melvin Mora
Omar Vizquel
Brad Asmus
Randy Winn
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
I don't think Johnny Damon is a bad option
Depending on how much money he wants. If you could move him out of CF. Even last year in a down year he was still a 1.9 WAR player, which is pretty good if you’re hitting him in the 6-7 hole.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 19, 2010 5:24 AM PST up reply actions
Rumors...
I keep hearing rumors that we have a two-time Cy Young award winner, a rookie of the year, and we won a world series?
Crazy, I know… LOL, someone even updated Wikipedia with these facts. I wish these guys would get blocked instead of being allowed to torture us with these lies.
by haemaker on Nov 18, 2010 10:20 PM PST via mobile reply actions
more convincing
without the penis on his hat.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
It’s a buttplug.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
I wish the Padres would non-tender Ryan Ludwick
I’d like him. Alas.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think they’re planning on tendering him.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Yeah
A little surprising considering how poor he played for them, but I guess they’re counting on a bounceback. I would too. Oh well.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Well considering how much they didn't give up...
And the excess of outfielders they have (regardless of how much they suck) + salary constraints… it’s kind of weird… unless they’re going to trade him
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Unless Maybin breaks out though, Ludwick is basically their only chance to have an above average offensive player besides Gonzalez. For them, he’s worth it.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know he was pretty awful last year moving to SD, Denorfia was better, and they have Cunningham, who I think will be serviceable, and Banks in the waiting… It doesn’t make sense for such a stingy club to keep him…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Fuck that guy
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Nov 19, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
The best part
Is that he’s already got sunglass on top of his hat.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Probably been discussed somewhere
But was there a consensus on who we would have to give to bring in Justin Upton? I’m not suggesting it, just curious. I’m sure it would have to include Bumgarner and probably Belt and Neal, plus maybe Schierholtz and another good prospect?
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 18, 2010 10:46 PM PST reply actions
Wheeler + Neal + Belt + Culberson + Bumgarner
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
oof
I hope not that much. But the conversation definitely starts with Belt and Wheeler and probably includes Sanchez plus at least one more
(personally, if I had to give up one, I’d rather trade Sanchez than Bumgarner)
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 18, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
I’d rather give up Sanchez than Bumgarner, but why deal Belt for someone and Wheeler and another pitcher for someone who may wind up being the equivalent of Belt in the very near future?
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 19, 2010 5:16 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why Kevin Towers got the D’backs job. He signed Geoff Blum to a two-year deal. You know, just in case GEOFF BLUM explodes this year and goes looking for a fat contract next offseason. Because you’d never want to just go year-to-year with GEOFF BLUM, he’s got so much leverage! Now he thinks Justin Upton, who has a lot of potential but has yet to really capitalize on it, much like his older brother, is worth 4-5 players who can help the D’backs in the long term and the short term (according to MLBTR). And he traded the D’backs #8 prospect for Juan Miranda, a late-twenties 1B with mediocre numbers who may very well have been non-tendered.
And then of course Jerry DiPoto traded Dan Haren for a pile of crap.
I don’t know why I’m complaining about this when the D’backs play in our division, but I feel sorry for Josh Byrnes. He’s probably sitting around somewhere going “These are the people I was fired for?”
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Speaking of Blum. He was on KNBR this afternoon to promote saving Cal baseball. Says they are about halfway there to saving baseball and other sports cut for the next 4 years. Maybe he’ll use part of his salary to save the baseball team. Google save cal baseball to check out their website and donate if you so desire.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Arizona has already said they would not trade him in division.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Eep
I’m sure they’re looking for a monster haul, but considering how awesome Bumgarner is and how we don’t have to pay him anything, isn’t he likely to be about as valuable over the next 5 years as Upton just by himself?
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 19, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
This.
And I’ll take MadBum over Upton thanks. Upton for MadBum + Belt + Wheeler + etc. is no where near my idea of a reasonable trade.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
With a grain of salt....
Adrian Beltre – who cares
Pat Burrell – Giants (too much)
Carl Crawford – Not Us
Jorge De La Rosa – who cares
Jose Guillen – hahahahaaahaaaa!!
Aubrey Huff – Giants (a case of thongs)
Derek Jeter – Gillette or GQ mag (zillions)
Cliff Lee – who cares
Victor Martinez – who cares
Bengie Molina – who cares
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – who?
Edgar Renteria – Giants
Juan Uribe – Giants
Jayson Werth – who cares
"The only crying allowed in hockey is when you lose a playoff series, retire or JR is speaking publicly." - Jamie Baker
by skilletboy on Nov 18, 2010 10:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
LOL-listening to the LL podcast
“If you want to see the A’s you can just go down to a xerox”
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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by Gobroks on Nov 19, 2010 1:07 AM PST via mobile reply actions
This is Grant’s boss. I have commandeered the podcasting software. Llama radio, 24/7.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Llamas are listening....always
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 19, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
What we need
is to rebuild rebuild rebuild. Bring Tim Alderson, Joe Martinez, and John Bowker and build the team around them.
No relation to Shawn Chacon. I promise.
Adrian Beltre – Oakland – 4/64
Pat Burrell – Seattle – 1/5
Carl Crawford – Los Angeles Angels – 6/96
Jorge De La Rosa – Texas – 3/22
Jose Guillen – Las Vegas 51’s – Minor League Contract with Toronto
Aubrey Huff – San Francisco – 3/21
Derek Jeter – New York Yankees – 3/35
Cliff Lee – Texas – 7/145
Victor Martinez – Boston – 4/53
Bengie Molina – Texas – 2/12
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Los Angeles Dodgers – 5/70 – Posting $6.5M
Edgar Renteria – Florida – 1/4
Juan Uribe – San Francisco – 3/27
Jayson Werth – Boston – 7/110
"The knowledge of the game is inversely proportional to the price of the seat." ---Bill Veeck. •Check out the new look of SFDugout.com•
I'm wondering
why U(uuuuuuuu)ribe gets more money than Huff?
No relation to Shawn Chacon. I promise.
SS
and more bidders.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2010 6:51 AM PST up reply actions
Let's See
Adrian Beltre- Red Sox 4/52
Pat Burrell Padres too many OF… Giants 2/6
Carl Crawford Angels 6/117
Jorge De La Rosa- Pirates 3/28
Jose Guillen- Who Cares
Aubrey Huff- Giants 2/17
Derek Jeter- Yankees 3/50
Cliff Lee- Yankees 6/ 155
Victor Martinez- Tigers 3/30
Bengie Molina- Who Cares
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- No Contract
Edgar Renteria- Marlins 2/8
Juan Uribe -Giants 3/19
Jayson Werth- Red Sox 5/88
by FutureGiantsGm24 on Nov 19, 2010 2:11 AM PST reply actions
Probably all wrong
Adrian Beltre A’s 5/65
Pat Burrell D’Backs 2/8
Carl Crawford Giants 6/115
Jorge De La Rosa Nationals 4/38
Jose Guillen Levinworth 4-10/$0.16/hr
Aubrey Huff Giants 2/16
Derek Jeter Yankees 3/45
Cliff Lee Yankees 6/155
Victor Martinez Tigers 4/48
Bengie Molina Weight Watchers 2/2
Tsuyoshi Nishioka Fodgers (I hope)/too much
Edgar Renteria Marlins 1/4
Juan Uribe Cardinals 3/20
Jayson Werth Red Sox 5/80
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
The consensus appears to be Huff @ 20 million or 3 years
I’d rather have Belt and Burrell on the roster than pay Huff 20 million or guarantee three years in order to keep him on this team. I think he’s a dead weight contract waiting to happen. I love the guy, but not at 20 million.
Of course,
all of us are probably way wrong.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I disagree.
Last year was the first time I ever got to see him play and he didn’t look like he’d suddenly start sucking. Long stretches of ineffectiveness? Sure. But he’s a left-handed slugger who helped remake the team’s image. His skills might erode by the third year, but I think he has two good years left in him at least. And it’s the Giants, so overpaying in years and/or dollars is a given, but I don’t think a third year is a back-breaker. He can always occupy the Aaron Rowand spot on the bench in that third year, too.
by Every6thDay on Nov 19, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I'm very wary of Huff though
I mean, dude had his best year ever in 2008 then just completely fell off. How does that happen?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Also Belt.
I really think Belt could duplicate what we say out of Posey this year.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think that quite yet
My ideal situation would be to re-sign Burrell and Huff. Burrell for no more than 1 year, Huff no more than 2.
Then, if during the course of the year, Burrell or Huff or Ross in RF starts sucking, that’s when you call up Belt from AAA.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It’s odd that he seems to suck every four years.
2001: 434 PA, 74 OPS+
2005: 636 PA, 98 OPS+
2009: 597 PA, 81 OPS+
… maybe it’s some Huffian pon farr thing?
by Every6thDay on Nov 19, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
…so, a 2 year deal should be safe.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 19, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I would not do Huff for 3 years.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
It would start to get sore after a while.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 19, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Is the Gold Room a place with champagne where we can have teh sex?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
URIBE - HUFF - CRAWFORD
that should be our xmas wish list…..don’t think anyone else would fit in…be nice to have burrell back part time
Trade Sabean...
Slow work day...
Adrian Beltre – 4 yrs/$50M/White Sox
Pat Burrell – 2 yrs/$14M/Cubs
Carl Crawford – 6 yrs/$105M/Angels
Jorge De La Rosa – 4 yrs/$50M/Cubs
Jose Guillen – 3 yrs/$15M/Chiba Lotte
Aubrey Huff – 2 yrs/$12M/Giants
Derek Jeter – 3 yrs/$60M/Yankees (bidding against themselves)
Cliff Lee – 5 yrs/$125M/Rangers
Victor Martinez – 4 yrs/$42M/Angels
Bengie Molina – 2 yrs/$10M/Tigers
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – 5 yrs/$40M/Dodgers
Edgar Renteria – 1 day/Marlins
Juan Uribe – 2 yrs/$14M/Giants
Jayson Werth – 4 yrs/$70M/Phillies
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
JJ Hardy as our SS...
Assuming we don’t get that winning bid for the japanese SS, Nish, I think JJ Hardy would be viable option for the G-men.
SS J.J. Hardy, 28, wonders whether he’ll be back with the Twins next season. Limited to 101 games because of a wrist injury last season, he hit .268 and drove in 38 runs after being acquired from Milwaukee for CF Carlos Gomez. The Twins hold Hardy’s rights for another season, but because he was paid $5.1 million last season and the Twins have $76.6 million already dedicated to 11 players for 2011, he’s a non-tender candidate. The deadline to offer contracts to arbitration-eligible players is Dec. 2.(Source: Yahoo sports, Twins,Notes and Quotes)
Does being a non-tender candidate mean he’s a free agent? If so, I’d try to get this guy ASAP. He’s still 28 and think he can have a bounce back year.
If he were to be non-tendered, i.e. not offered a contract by the deadline, then yes, he would be a free agent. Although I share the general skepticism that this will actually happen. Or not happen. Whatever.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 19, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Who will the Twins have at short if they get rid of Hardy?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I predicted we'd win the WS this year, so take these to the bank.
and put them in a safety deposit box. And never look at them.
Adrian Beltre – 5 yrs/ $74M/ A’s
Pat Burrell – 1 yr/ $4M/ Giants
Carl Crawford – 7 yrs/ $120M/ Angels
Jorge De La Rosa – 4 yrs/ $41M/ Nationals
Jose Guillen – 2 yrs/ $12M/ Pirates
Aubrey Huff – 2 yrs/ $17.5M/ Giants
Derek Jeter – 4 yrs/ $84M/ Yankees
Cliff Lee – 7 yrs/ $161M/ Yankees
Victor Martinez – 4 yrs/ $50M/ Tigers
Bengie Molina – 2 yrs/ $8M/ Olive Garden
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – 4 yrs/ $41M/ Pirates
Edgar Renteria – 1 yr/ $2M/ Marlins
Juan Uribe – 3 yrs/ $23M/ Giants
Jayson Werth – 5 yrs/ $90M/ Tigers
There is no way Jeter is going to sign a contract that isn’t going to look insane, and Crawford will definitely sign a bigger deal than Holliday did. Also, Tigers are going to ruin this for everyone by running up the prices of these guys and the Pirates are intending on making some big, big mistakes.
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
All I want for Christmas is Jazz Hands
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
and possibly a Belt
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Re: Free Agente Guesses
Adrian Beltre- Orioles, 3 Yr/ $37.5 M (O’s always need help, problem is they’ve had a rough defensive team for years and it’s helped a meadiocre pitching staff look even worse. Beltre would solidfy 3rd and give the O’s a consistant 3-4-5-6 hitter. Can’t wait to see what he does now that he’s out of Sea.) Or: Indians, Rockies, Astros
Pat Burrell- Braves, 1 Yr/ $4.5 M (Big 2nd half with Giants should earn him at least a platoon/part-time role with a team who needs a rh slugger like ATL) Or: Padres, Cubs
Carl Crawford- Dodgers, 5 Yr/ $112 M (Dodgers are fading in West/ Need new leader who’s been there, and image that OF in LA) Others: Angels, Rays, Tigers
Jorge De La Rosa- Nationals, 3 Yr/ 39 M (Would have to overpay since he’s one of top arms in thin SP market, but nobody needs starters more than Wash, especially since Strasburgh’s out till ’12 Or: Rangers, Astros,
Jose Guillen- Mariners, Minor League Deal ( With investigation, attitude history and injury problems, may have to earn a spot in Spring Training) Or: Orioles, Nationals
Aubrey Huff- Giants, 2 Years/ $16 M (Huge in their WS win, and even if he slows over the next 2 years, he’s flexible so won’t have to stick in onc spot and even in his worst year still had 85 RBI). Or: Texas, Houston
Derek Jeter- Yankees, 3 Yr/ 52.5M (It will prolly go back ’n forth through December, but can you see Jeter anywhere else?) Or? Possibly, if they have a complete fallout, for some reason could see him in St. Louis, somewhere that needs an ss and would seem to fit Jeter well being a baseball town and perennial winners each year.
Cliff Lee- Texas, 4 Yr./ $95 M (Could be NY Bound, but something tells me he may want to stick around and help Texas finish what they got so closed to in ’10") Or: Yankees, Cubs, Astros
Victor Martinez- Red Sox, 3 Yr/ 40 M (Was big for Boston in ’10 and really helped solidify the middle of that order with Papi and even Youk struggling at times) Others: White Sox, Mariners
Bengie Molina- Mets, 1 Yr/6 M (Was supposed to go there last winter but passed, may be ChiSox too were he’d be a huge upgrade in all areas over Pierzynski in CHI) Others: Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox,
Tsuyoshi Nishioka- Undecided (A’s have rihgts, but no-way they shell out big $$$ to an unsure bet, my best guess is one of the big market, NY/Bos/Chi teams.
Edgar Renteria- Angels, 1 Yr/ $2.75 M (Part-Timer, Teacher to young guys on the team like Izturis, Aybar and Callapso much like he was with the young latinos in San Fran) Others: Marlins, Padres, Rays
Juan Uribe- Giants, 2 Yr/15 M (Amazing to think of giving Juan Uribe 7.5 a year but the dude has just been consistent and clutch ever since the day he put on a Giants uni, not too mention he plays 3 positions at a pretty high level) Others: Cardinals, Padres,
Jayson Werth- Padres- 3 Yr/ 40 M (Getting a RH masher like Werth would be very wise for the Pads, especially if they want to try and keep Gonzalez around and I think Werth has the pop to hit his 20-25 HR per, even playing 1/2 games at Petco) Others: Washington, Texas
fter checking out Grant’s great McCovey Cove Chronicles, come on over and check out my Giants Baseball Blog
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
I’m hungover and my headache feels contrarian….so:
Dodgers definitely won’t spend the money necessary to land Crawford, A’s have the rights to an Asian pitcher (likely for their rotation) the infielder Nishioka’s claim hasn’t been resolved yet, and Werth is going to get much more than 3/40 and it would take more like 6/120 for him to consider hitting at PetCo.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 20, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
ideas and hopes
Adrian Beltre – Oakland – 4/64
Pat Burrell – Giants – 1/4
Carl Crawford – Los Angeles Angels – 6/110
Jorge De La Rosa – Nationals – 3/21
Jose Guillen – won’t be re-signed
Aubrey Huff – San Francisco – 3/21
Derek Jeter – GIANTS!! – 5/75, plus incentives (unrealistic hope, but why not)
Cliff Lee – Texas – 7/147
Victor Martinez – Boston – 4/48
Bengie Molina – Mets – 1/12
Tsuyoshi Nishioka – Seattle – 5/50
Edgar Renteria – Giants – 1/4 (back-up at SS & 2B)
Juan Uribe – San Francisco – 3/28
Jayson Werth – Boston – 5/90
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