Sizing up the free-agent class
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 17, 2010 11:05 AM PST
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- Cliff Lee -- No, thanks. We have our left-handed ace for the next decade. Getting another one would be greedy.
- Carl Crawford -- Four years, $80M, one of those upside-down-airplane stamps, one more year, $20M more, and just one more year on top of that with several million sprinkled around a peeing-Calvin sticker signed by Bill Waterson. That’s all it will take to get Crawford. Sounds too good to be true, right?
As fun as it would be to watch Crawford hit some baseballs into Triples Alley for a few years, this frogurt comes with a curse. Just like Carlos Beltran became the old-’n’-busted Carlos Beltran while you were picking up your drycleaning, Crawford will lose a bunch of ability at some point, and there’s a good chance he’ll be getting paid $20M when it happens. And there’s no way this team can afford to have $20M or more in useless contracts -- they’ll never win a World Series that way. - Jayson Werth -- I’d prefer him to Crawford for the next two years, but Werth is two years older. If this were Baseball Mogul, I’d offer Werth a 3/$75M contract and let my cash reserves drain a bit. Alas, he’s probably going to want four or five years. No dice. Also, we’re still decades away from the first dolphin GM, which is a shame.
- Adrian Beltre -- The Red Sox aren’t going to offer him more than 4/$52M, which is already a contract that makes me twitch. Beltre’s a good player, but he’ll be rowanding up a payroll sooner rather than later if that’s his price.
- Victor Martinez -- A Martinez/Posey timeshare at C/1B would be more interesting if Brandon Belt weren’t close to the majors.
- Adam Dunn -- Clomp, clomp, snorf, clomp, clank. I’m sure getting older will help his defense. It’s insane that he’s avoided the AL for this long.
- Jorge De La Rosa -- Wait a sec...
- Carl Pavano -- ...where did all the good free agents go?...
Jake Westbrook(signed! 2/$16.5M!) -- ...oh, man, where’s the door?...- Johnny Damon -- ...Gaaaah! Eject! Eject! Eject!
The Giants are focusing only on Juan Uribe and Aubrey Huff right now. Good. I can’t remember a less appealing free agency class. Maybe it’s because the Giants don’t have a single opening on their pitching staff. Maybe it’s because those championship opiates make everything ooookay, man. Crawford or bust. Which is to say, bust. I don’t want any of these guys, and the Giants aren’t getting Crawford.
The Giants need a shortstop, and, say, that guy we had last year is available. The Giants need a corner infielder/outfielder and, say, that guy we had last year is available. I’m becoming more and more entranced by the siren song of our own free agents. Also, there’s a chance the Giants could get someone like Mark DeRosa to play for the infield or outfield if..
...wait, what? Already on the team? Weird.
I don’t think I’ve ever been in an offseason like this. No free agents, please, at least until Huff and/or Uribe go elsewhere.
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I'd rather overpay for Huff or UUUUUUUUU
than pay for anyone on that list.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 11:09 AM PST reply actions
Yep!
Let them overpay the guys who got them TO and then helped them WIN the WORLD SERIES.
If you’re going to overpay, it’s easier to think of it as a bonus for a job well done.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
reports say he is a bad clubhouse guy
DONT SIGN HIM TO PITCH
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
This is not the year to punt your first round pick
Or 2nd round, for that matter. Resign Huff and Uribe, overpay slightly if you have to, and take our chances with Belt being the real thing, re-evaluate in June, then make trades if necessary.
Apparently Bullpen arms is the new moneyball, and we have the goods.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
According to my girlfriend
Apparently Bullpen Arms is the best Jackie Collins novel of the last decade.
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Jackie Collins
Is that like a Tom Collins but with Jack Daniels?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The team is good but with a couple of glaring holes. Seems like a good time to break the bank on an elite free agent like Crawford or Werth. (I have Beltre in that class too, but I’m loyal to Panda at third.)
Also, winning the World Series = crapload of unexpected dollars flowing into the Giants’ coffers. They have less reason than ever to be cheapskates.
Eh, I’m expecting Peguero to be Crawfording up Triples Alley in just a couple years for pennies on the million dollar. I’m fine with sticking it out, bringing back Huff, Uribe, and Burrell, bringing up Belt, and re-Pandazizing Sandoval.
I too have championship games I can watch on my phone.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Exactly.
And if we break the bank now…what do we do when Timmy, Cain, and Sanchez his free agency? That will not be a happy day…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
No doubt. I hope the org’s beating the bushes at every witches’ coven in the Western Hemisphere looking for the brew that can release our Panda from his curse.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Except for Belt, I don’t think there’s anyone in the minors who should even be brought up in a free agents discussion. Peguero’s first full year in the majors is likely to be in 2013, right? Torres is the only OF who’s guaranteed to be with the team by that time, and he’ll be 35 and in the last year of his contract. And that’s if Peguero becomes a good player, which is a big if.
Also the Japanese guy
Japanese infielder Tsuyoshi Nishioka, who won the Pacific League batting title last season, has been posted, the Chiba Lotte Marines announced Wednesday.
Major league teams have for business day to bid on the rights to negotiate with the second baseman/shortstop. An announcement of the team winning the rights could come Monday.
Nishioka, 26, has said he prefers to play on the West Coast, and the Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants were thought to be early favorites for his services.
But Kevin Baxter of the Los Angeles Times reported late Tuesday that the Dodgers are unlikely to go after Nishioka.
Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported Wednesday that the Minnesota Twins are interested in Nishioka.
“We’re well aware of him,” Twins general manager Bill Smith told Christensen at baseball’s winter meetings in Orlando, Fla.
Still, no team has emerged a clear front-runner for the switch-hitting speedster. Paul White of USA Today listed the Cardinals, Blue Jays, Orioles, Rockies, Mets and, yes, the Mariners as potential suitors.
I really want The Nish.
Sign the Nish, give Uribe a deal, maybe give Huff a deal if it’s not too many years, and then stand pat. Adam Dunn is awesome, but we have nowhere to play him and he’s too expensive. Everyone else is just a bad idea.
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
The Nish?
Really?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
The Nish is delish.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Man, you know it.
Also, nice sig.
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by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
He fills an important nish on our roster.
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Nov 18, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
SNL sketch potential:
NISHIOKA PUDDING commercial
THE TSUYOSHI ORMAN SHOW
MAKE A NISH FOUNDATION
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as we...
don’t bid ridiculous amounts amounts of money on him. I like the idea.
That said, if the posting goes for more than say…5mil. Not worth it. If we need a shortstop who can defend but probably not hit all that well (there’s no way that batting championship is going to transfer to the MLB), we have Crawford waiting in the minors.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
nish a wish
No way it translates? How do you think Ichiro started? The Giants need a young SS who can hit. Uribe is great and can swing between 3rd, SS, and 2nd as he did this year. But he is getting old, does not get on base a lot, and yes, is prone to the occasional dramatic HR. I love Uribe, but not as an everyday, dependable SS. He has been injured on and off and needs not to play too much. Nish may cost some money, but he won’t cost the Giants any players in exchange. If he doesn’t work out, he will not be the ongoing drain Zito or Rowland have been. I admit I’m not that up on the Giants farm SS prospects, but I don’t believe there is any star in waiting at SS. This guy may be that one, like Ichiro, that translates even better than anyone could have imagined offensively and defensively. And Nish likes the Giants!!!! He would love to come to SF!! We’ve got the inside track, if BS is paying attention.
Ichiro and who else?
I’m not as down on this idea as some people are. I really, really want us to at least post a bid. But this was a career year for Nishioka, he’ll be playing in a much bigger park than he did in Japan, and even Ichiro’s numbers didn’t transfer over without some loss.
I don’t think its a terrible idea…but I also don’t think there’s any guarantee that it’ll pan out.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Also...
Nishioka has no control over who wins the posting bid and gets to talk to him. So whether or not he likes the Giants is basically irrelevant in the first stages of this.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
what if he can’t get a deal worked out with whoever wins the posting bid? just just mulligan it?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think so too.
All and all this whole Japanese posting system is a complete rip-off. Are all international signings like this?
Also, is there a point where he hits the equivalent of free agency and can come to the states on his own?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
SS or bust
It’s a key point to assess whether or not he can play SS at the MLB level. I’ve heard some skepticism on the matter, re: arm strength.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Yes, there is free agency
Basically this is a way for the Japanese club to get some compensation before the player hits free agency. See here:
Nishioka needed the permission of the Chiba Lotte Marines to jump to the U.S., as he wouldn’t have been eligible to do so as a free agent until following the 2013 season.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 18, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I think Ichiro started with a .950 OPS over many years in Japan
Nishioka had an OPS of .788 in the last 3 years in Japan. Let’s not get crazy here. He might be a serviceable SS at the right price, but his ceiling isn’t high.
by sarf_london_niner on Nov 18, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, just like Barrys
One is enough…two is too many.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
Unlike Russes.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He’d be a perfect fit for the Mariners.
Because, you know, he’s Japanese.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
We should try to get players who are good, but not if they cost too much money.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
are you really Tim McCarver?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
That is the most offensive thing that anyone has ever asked me. You’re no longer invited to my birthday party!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Natto is doing his Tim McCarver impression, if I’m not mistaken.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
“impression”? Are we sure?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
You need to throw in a couple "Perhaps" references...
“Perhaps rotorueter was offended after jctGamer made his comment, because jctGamer’s comment was, perhaps, offensive.”
NOOOOOoooo
Not the birthday party man. Please I take it all back.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
It’s gonna have cake and ice cream and everything!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
What about pie?
I’m not going if there’s not any pie. I have principles, man.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You’ve been drinking the wrong-juice again.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
If there’s no pie, it doesn’t even count as a birthday party. Cake is there just to placate the fools who think cake is better than pie. Fools I say!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
i flinched
when i saw that name. i hate McCarver. “Lincecum has a very violent delivery.” over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
I had real trouble with the vision of Timmy
as Psycho Killer that McCarver seemed to be pushing with that “violent delivery” line. I’d then watch Timmy fluidly deliver to the plate again and wonder if I was watching the same game as McCarver (not for the first time). Jeez, Timmy who smiles at dogs and old ladies and enjoys the notion of his milk shakin’ motion. “Violent delivery?”
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
This.
McCarver is just pathetic.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
yep he is. and if you really look at all Timmehs moving parts in his windup/delivery, its actually very fluid in the way that each part of his delivery works with the other
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
His tilt isn’t so violent, but his dangle is something else. And don’t even get me started on the reach.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
you forgot to put football music in your post!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha
i had forgotten the tilt, dangle and reach. kind of sounds more like the taking a crap and reaching for toilet paper or something.
and does anyone remember Scooter the talking baseball graphic that Fox used to use to explain different pitches? that is the worst baseball network ever
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
i actually did a tilt, dangle and reach while taking a crap.
TBS got it wrong and my bathroom is a mess
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
What about:
Peter Puck when the NHL had national broadcasts in the late-70s/early 80s.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Reminds me of that old Mr. Show sketch
It’s insane, this guy’s dangle!
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
at from TBS or FOX?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 17, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
SCIENCE
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
After Huff and Uribe, of course,
I’ll take my chances with the potassium benzoate, thank you very much.
Breaking news:
Breaking News:
Managers awarded
In surprise decisions, the Twins’ Ron Gardenhire and Padres’ Bud Black won Manager of the Year awards.
courtesy of Yahoo Sports
I was sure it would be Bobby Cox.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
It was:
NL:
Black
Dusty
Bochy
AL:
Gardenhire
Washington
Maddon
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Wow
Bud over Dusty by 1 point? I know Dusty made the playoffs blah blah, but I didn’t think it would be that close.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Yeah,
This should have been a landslide for Black.
The Padres were supposed to lose close to 100 games this year.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Unsurprising outcome is unsurprising.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I think he meant supplies.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
HAJIME!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
that took me a second
and then it caused me problems.
keithlaw keithlaw
Gardenhire got halfway to the podium to accept his award, then waited for another manager to bunt him over
Ouch
That’s cold RT @HunterFelt: @keithlaw He only got a minute into his speech before the Yankees management swept him offstage.
Keith Law is kind of a dick.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Though that could be Hunter Felt.
I don’t really understand Twitter.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hunter Felt sent it to Keith, Keith said That’s Cold.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
And I don’t understand you.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Keith Law
That’s cold RT @HunterFelt:
Hunter Felt
@keithlaw He only got a minute into his speech before the Yankees management swept him offstage.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I did, in fact, understand.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Still, Keith Law is kind of dickish.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I really appreciate the snark. In these sad, post-“Fire Joe Morgan” times, I’ll take reasonably intelligent baseball commentary and humor wherever I can find it.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I got pretty tired of those FJM guys too, so maybe it’s just me.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I hope Bud Black manages a September collapse every year!
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
by satyricrash on Nov 17, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah,
I would be ok with not getting any outside FAs
Get Uribe, Get Huff, Try to get Burrell, but if he walks I would be ok with that.
Have Ross start calling Uggla everyday to not sign an extension with Atlanta.
Try to trade Rowand if possible.
Productive offseason.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Moneyball strikes again!
“There could be a little downturn in the power,” Beinfest said, “but it’s a different look now for the Marlins to get the high average, high on-base guy and then hopefully the guys in the middle, Hanley [Ramirez] and Mike [Stanton] can drive those guys in.”
If Burrell walks
And signs somewhere else for less than 5 million, I will be pissed.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yeah,
I did not cover it further, but I would offer him a 1 year 5 million deal. If he wants 2 years at 7 per or something, then I would be ok with letting him go.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Oh, absolutely
If someone is offering Burrell a multi-year deal, then you give him a big hug and thank him for all he did.
But if you can bring him back for 1/5 or so, why the hell wouldn’t you?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But if his post-season is any indication, he probably won't walk.
He’ll probably swing and miss altogether.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He had some big walks in the post-season.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
Huge
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 17, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, he did.
But I couldn’t resist the play on words.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand has $27.2 million left on his deal. Even if the Giants ate 60% of that, would another team want Aaron Rowand for 2 years @ $10 million? Seems doubtful.
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Try to trade Rowand if possible.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I wasn’t trying to blow up your idea! I promise!
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Giants could get a decent prospect
If they offered Rowand at 2 years, 5 million or something. That way the Giants free up a roster slot, save 5 million dollars, and get a prospect. Everybody wins!
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Save 5 million dollars? What would it cost to replace Rowand on the roster? At least 1 mil.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
His replacement would probably be Nate, who makes very little
But sure, it wouldn’t actually be 5 saved, but it’d be a couple million.
Nate is at risk of being DFA’d when DeRosa is put back on the 25 man – getting rid of Rowand would keep Nate’s slot open.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Nate > Rowand
I’d take Nate over Rowand any day…especially for how much he costs. Get Rowand the heck out of here…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
what if we swapped Rowand for Ibanez? they have similar contracts (11.6/12mil), Rowand loves Philly, Philly wants a RH bat to platoon with Brown, SF wants to get more left-handed…
So trade and get a LH bat, or try a salary dump by trading off Rowand and paying half his salary.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Meh...
I think I’d rather just try a salary dump. I mean, I think trading Ibanez would be better than doing nothing. But I’m really not convinced he’s worth 11.6mil. I figure we might as well just ditch as much money as we can, maybe try and get a prospect in return, and call it good.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I’m inclined to agree, but Rowands contract is so bad that the salary dump we would get off him could be marginal, if any team would even take it. I highly doubt we’d get a prospect in return too.
Ibanez, of course, is not worth 11.6 mil. But neither is Rowand, hence the reason for the trade (that is, if a salary dump isn’t possible- which i would love to see but dont think will happen)
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
JESUS CHRIST NO
Trade Rowand for Ibanez? ARE YOU INSANE?
Alright, maybe I’m being a little harsh. But Rowand is five years younger, plays much much better defense, and… well, okay, I don’t think he hits better than Ibanez. Ibanez is a better hitter. But I don’t think getting Ibanez is really a good idea – dude is like 38. And I don’t think that we really need to dump salary that much, do we?
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
wow, i had no idea Ibanez was THAT old.. wow. That changes things, but not too much. Philly has a REALLY bad contract on their hands now, compared to our Rowand deal.
I was thinking of a swap (which due to the age diffs would have to come with a prospect too) and having Ibanez as a 5th OF/PH, nothing more. def not a starter. But that age difference changes everything. Wow.
Now that I’m aware of that, I’m inclined to salary dump on Rowand. Even if we have to pay 8 of his $12 mil, the $4 mil we dump will pay for Burrell. So basically, we’re getting Pat and dumping Rowand. Or throw the $4mil towards something else.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Would Ibanez be under contract for more than a year?
If it was just for a year, than even with the age thing, I’d rather trade for Ibanez than do nothing. But age or no age, I’d rather just dump ANY part of Rowands salary.
Its not like we need him as yet ANOTHER back-up outfielder.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
But..but...
ROWAND MADE THAT THROW IN THE PLAYOFFS THAT ONE TIME THAT WAS CLUTCH!
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Got some big hits too, when you come to think of it.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
one more year of Ibanez, thru 2011. so we’d be getting $24 mil of Rowand (2 years) off the table and adding $12mil of Ibanez (1 year).
Ibanez is the better hitter, is LH, and could be 5th OF/PH.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
and the phillies would make this trade because....
they are stupid?
I mean – Ibanez is cheaper (because no 2012 obligation) AND better (except at defense).
Ibanez has had 9 straight years of a .350 OBP. Really, between .345-.358. His graph is completely flat.
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the phillies would make the deal because...
they need a solid RH platoon bat (which Rowand essentially is) to go with Brown.
Rowand is much younger than Ibanez, less risk of injury.
If the Giants agree to pay maybe 6mil of Rowands 2012 salary, they might do it.
Phils might want a prospect as well, though Belt/Neal/Wheeler/Culberson/Gillaspie are off the table.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
I can see it maybe happening...
But I would just try and dump him first. Even if they’d only take a few million off our hands I’d be happy about it.
I’d also hate to give up prospects for the deal. I mean, prospects for Ibanez? Just because we signed Rowand to the contract from hell? No thanks.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
well, a prospect. and i dont even know that they would demand one to do the deal- they really, really want Ibanez off their hands.
I’d try to dump Rowand first, of course, b/c that is an extra 4-5mil per year that is saved (because Rowand gets replaced by Nate, who makes nothing). But if Rowand can’t be dumped for at least 1/3 value back, then I’d shoot him off to Philly.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
In all respects. Which I think we were agreeing the whole time…
Ah well, its the off-season. Gotta talk about something!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
but OF of Rowand's presumed 2011-2012 quality
including his “solid RH platoon bat” (really? he had a .682 OPS against LHP)
come free with breakfast cereal.
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is the .682 his career, or just this year? because he really sucked this year overall.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Philly was smart enough to let him walk in the first place because they knew he was going to command a bigger contract than he deserved after his career year. Why would they go back and get him after he’s proved them spectacularly right?
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Sorry. that wasn’t meant to be for you giant4life. Reply fail again.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
its all good i figured you were responding to a jayson werth comment
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
2010, but irrelevant I think
because if you go by his career stats then he’s a pretty average CF overall. The reason why people want to dump him is because they think he’s toast.
As for that… consider Fangraphs WAR vs. BBREF War
BBR FG
2008 0.5 1.4
2009 1.2 2.5
2010 -0.1 0.5
That kind of puts him in a whole new light. And not a soft light.
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3 way deal that sends:
-Rowand to Philiadelphia where they need a RH outfielder
-Ibanez, Ishikawa, and a prospect (from the Giants) to Seattle where Ibanez can DH
-Figgins to SF
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I don't mind it...
especially because
1) Figgins only makes around $9 million until 2013 (2014 option vests if he gets 600 PAs)…thats about $27 million for 3 years…Rowand has 2 years with $24 million
2) Figgins can play 3B or SS
Agreed.
Its still not the best solution in the world, but it might be the best chance a deal has at actually coming through. Anything that gets Rowand off our hands is fine by me.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
That's still a decent chunk of change
And I’m not sure how well we can peg Figgins at short.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I'm not sure...
How well we can peg ANYONE at short at this point…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I'd say Sabean has a good chance to re-sign Uribe
Side note: I still have no idea why the Phillies would want Rowand back.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
But it would be nice to have a back-up FOR Uribe...
SS is just one giant problem.
Also, I think the rumor that the Phillies might want Rowand back popped up online (mlb trade rumours?) somewhere and everyone’s running with it.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Some of Figgins’ money would be offset but the money Giants are not paying Uribe (probably somewhere in $5-6 million range)…
Giants can slot DeRosa/Panda at 3rd…
At least we can get some playing time out of the money rather than having it sit on the bench…
Problem is Phillies would probably do this deal themselves cuz Figgins makes less money and they can just package Ibanez, Gload, and a prospect to SEA.
yea that was the biggest problem I saw with it too. Even if the Giants gave Philadelphia the difference between the Rowand contract and the Figgins contract each year and convinced Seattle to throw the Phillies anothr 3 mil in 2012 I don’t think they like Rowand at 6 mil over Figgins.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I doubt Nate will get DFA'd
He might get traded. His trade value (while small) is considerably greater than Rowand’s. Since he is Rowand + arm and essentially free. Rowand has negative trade value. Nate only got 100 fewer PAs than Rowand, and did everything better except .ISO (HR%)
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Let’s think of it this way. Is his trade value higher or lower than FLew’s?
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touche'
he’s quite a bit younger though (4 years, or 3 years if you count from where Flew was traded).
Also, it appears Flews’ defense got exposed in Toronto when he was not behind the Giants’ pitching.
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plus
paying him $7M to play for another team. He’s not Armando Benitez, not yet anyway.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Sunk cost, though.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I get that
my point is that he might actually help another team, whereas Benitez was pretty much guaranteed to screw whatever team he joined.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Dude Rowand only has 24 million left!
Overplayed memes:
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Whew! I totally choked on my Orange Metamucil there for a second.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Nov 17, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Nishioka
I agree that this list is mostly fool’s gold. Lots and lots of money, but what does it do to team chemistry, the locker room? Here’s a recent announcement that caught my eye:
TOKYO (AP)—Japanese shortstop Tsuyoshi Nishioka is free to move to Major League Baseball via the posting system, his team announced Wednesday.
MLB teams will have four business days to bid for the negotiating rights to the 26-year-old Nishioka, who helped the Lotte Marines win the 2010 Japan Series.
“The posting system allows major league teams to bid for the negotiating rights to Japanese players who have yet to become free agents.
Nishioka led the Pacific League with a .346 batting average this season and had 206 hits, becoming the first player in the Pacific League to record 200 hits since Ichiro Suzuki(notes) in 1994."
While not officially a free agent, this SS is intriguing. Japanese baseball players as a rule are very good defensively, and this guy can hit.
in this line. resign or guys if they sign elsewhere bid on Nishioka
i would also be ok with jj hardy but i think the twins are gonna tender him a contract
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by operation carrot on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Nishioka - do not want
I lived in Chiba in 2005 when the Marines took the NPB Championship, and I def enjoyed cheering in an exuberant but organized manner for Nishioka. Hell if the giants sign him I’ll even wear my Marines jersey, make a sign, and cheer more. BUT
I think to say he had a career year is an understatement this last season. He hit well above his station and his .395 BABIP feels more fluky than anything.
Also 2b is really his better position, and he’s always struggled with injuries.
One more thing, and this is the kicker for me. Nishioka seems concerned with one thing only, his legacy. He wants to be the greatest Japanese SS ever. He wants to come to america to prove himself, and he never struck me as the kind of down to earth (relatively speaking) team player sort that has turned SF into a championship team. I’d bet on another Shinjo… at best, if we signed him.
by buymagicfish on Nov 17, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
.395 BABIP?
Holy shit!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Yeah, there’s definitely a lot of reasons to be suspicious about how well The Nish is going to fit in MLB, it’s very possible he’s going to get overpaid. But if he comes here I am absolutely going to love it.
And .395 BABIP is completely insane.
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
OT
The baby Giants are in town!
http://sfgiantscoop.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/11/giants-winter-development-program-at-att-park.html
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Smooth move
Let ‘em see the big show and do it with class (pun). This is all part of the whole development program the Giants sensibly started a few years back. Look guys, here’s what the carrot looks like!
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Priorities
1. Uribe
2. Huff
3. Mota replacement upgrade
4. Burrell
5. Whiteside upgrade (it’d be cool if our backup C could be a little more offensively gifted)
6. Sign Steve Decker to a 30 year extension to ensure he is the next manager.
Is anyone else very interested in Nishioka? I hate having to pay a posting fee, but I think he’d fit on the team very well, especially if we don’t get Uribe back.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST reply actions
I like Whiteside, he’s a great clubhouse guy, but I don’t like it being late in a game, thinking “who are our remaining pinch hitters?” and having more confidence in Matt Cain as a pinch hitter than our backup catcher.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, Bumgarner as PH would be a better choice than Cain
…if he’s not already in the game as the starting pitcher, of course.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
This
I would like to see him take more late inning ABs… If for no other reason than to get it into other managers’ heads.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Nov 17, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
This.
It’d freak people out. It’d be great.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
…could also bat him 7th or 8th on his starts as well.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Nov 18, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
As opposed to just putting a table-setter in the 9 spot, I think MadBum could actually be used as a legit RBI threat.
/runs to shower with pumice stone to scrub off LaRussa label
by KrazyKrabMeat on Nov 19, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder...
If this would scare people enough to intentionally walk him. =D.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I don't disagree with this list
getting a swingman/semi-starter is fairly important too.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Supposedly this will be Runzler, if all goes according to plan…
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know if we can count on that by opening day
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Wellemeyer!
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Step 1 in re-creating the 2010 season EXACTLY
We’ll be champions!
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Additional bonus to having Werth
Every time he’d do anything wrong, we would get treated to 200 “Werthless!” comments in game threads. And anytime he did anything good, we’d get 200 comments about how he’s “Werth every penny.” How could that ever possibly get old? You can’t put a price on comedy of that caliber.
one day jason werth will get trade for brad penny my friend
one day
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by operation carrot on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
That makes cents.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 17, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Only if you’re a young Hollywood actress.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Nov 17, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I can't wait 'til Kyle Drabeck makes it to the bigs and the Giants face him:
“Suck it, Drabeck!”
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
"For what it's Werth"
He doesn’t like San Francisco.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Why? TEH GAYZ?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I always wonder if this is going through the minds of players like Helton, Berkman, Worth, and (previously) Klesko when they speak negatively about SF, the ballpark, or their fans.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
*Werth.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
They're human
People get frustrated, and I can imagine that for an MLB player, there’s nothing more frustrating than hitting a ball that would be a home run in another park but gets caught at AT&T.
I don’t blame them.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think you should check what Angelo was replying to.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Oh, gotcha
I was confused, because Werth has never said anything about ‘the gays’ or anything on that matter, but he has complained a bit about the park itself.
Don’t lump Werth in with bigots.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I just wonder. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I do. I’m not drawing a real conclusion. But if I’m being honest, it always crosses my mind. I mean, the messages from “Ball Four” still ring true to me. Lots of these guys are total meatheads.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Sorta Clark Kent.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Wouldn’t trade places with him for all the whiskey in Ireland.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Scotland wouldn’t trade places with him for all the whiskey in Ireland either.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
I try to avoid thinking like this because it comes from the same place as the bigotry we assume they have within themselves.
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
There’s some Berkman quote where he says SF doesn’t deserve a baseball team because of the gays.
Yeah.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
People always say this is true
But I have never seen this quote or any substantiation of the claim.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Says the Yankee. Ha. Of course, everyone knows there are no gays in New York.
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"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
by AngeloB on Nov 17, 2010 12:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that’s not true. The only thing I remember reading is that he doesn’t like the weather.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah. Let’s check our quotes. I didn’t want people to start rumors. I just wanted to mention a topic that is sometimes discussed among Giants fans living in the City, but isn’t mentioned much out in the open. Who was the player that turned his AIDS ribbon sideways on Until There’s a Cure Day, so it represented Jesus rather than AIDS awareness? Oh, Mark Dewey.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
He’s a coach on a team in Washington, Pennsylvania. Is Pennsylvania on a mission to have a city named after each state?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Is there a Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania?
…because that might be the nexus of the universe.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
LOL University of California
California, PA
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
LOL Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Indiana, PA
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John Rocker? Yes.
Overplayed memes:
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Those are the Werth jokes I’ve ever heard.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Just 200?
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
by satyricrash on Nov 17, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
CAIN 4 FIELDER
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Andres is a good soldier. Order him a thousand pizzas and tell him to get to work.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I made a big trade for Prince Fielder in Baseball Mogul 2010 last week. I can’t remember which of the Giants’ prospects I gave up, but it wasn’t anyone that would have an immediate impact… Brandon Crawford, maybe…. Then, I proceeded to lose 90 games. I’m still bitter.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
THAT'S WHAT I KEEP SAYING
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by satyricrash on Nov 17, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks Werth will be the next Rowand?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
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In terms of value for contract
Or in terms of being a completely awful hitter?
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Both
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"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
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Werth is a much better hitter than Aaron Rowand, and Aaron Rowand is so completely awful that I might be understating that point.
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
yeah. I could see that. Philly didnt seem to have alot of confidence in him. plus he’s a little older than most
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by operation carrot on Nov 17, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
more like Philly didn't have any money to pay him
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Hopefully
because they have had two WILDLY different careers. Werth has been good pretty much every year of his career.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
How has those numbers been inflated by playing in Philly though?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
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But what’s his Adjusted Douche Factor?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Fresh!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Well I guess I’m alone then thinking Werth will be a bust.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
You have a bad feeling about Werth?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not alone.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Rohirrim!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand only had one good year in Philly.
The year before his contract.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Former All-Star!
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Nov 17, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
There is really no measure by which
Jayson Werth is not much, much better at everything than Aaron Rowand.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Mountain Biking?
Being Awkward?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe, but in fairness to Werth
he’s probably better at that, too, he’s just good enough to avoid them so we haven’t been able to really see what he can do in that department.
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Sucking?
"You don't pick the time, the time picks you." - Brian Sabean
by satyricrash on Nov 17, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
No, you're not.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Why does this comparison keep on coming up? Is it just because they’re both from Philadelphia?
I mean, putting aside how good each one is, they’re just completely different types of hitters. Rowand was a pretty good contact hitter with solid power and no plate discipline. Werth is a terrible contact hitter with lots of power and great plate discipline.
he tries to pull, but he fails.
he hits a lot of easy ground ball outs to the left side, but most of his hits go up the middle, I think.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
So, DeRosa got a ring, right?
Did F.Lew?
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
I don’t really care much for either of them (though Frandsen was at least a good guy), I’m just curious.
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
YAHOO ANSWERS!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:25 AM PST reply actions
Thanks for the info, charless.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It was funnier the first time I read it.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
I think the Asker’s response to the sarcastic reply is pretty funny.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
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2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
109
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Better yet, why anyone would need to know at all.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Rainman demands Wapner!
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Nov 18, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Rasmus
What would it take to get colby rasmus? La russa and him had some problems last year maybe we could get him for cheap
Nay.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Is that the rumor? Holy crap that’s a lot of money.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
keithlaw keithlaw
Gardenhire got halfway to the podium to accept his award, then waited for another manager to bunt him over
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
"We have our left-handed ace for the next decade"
Oh (after checking the link).
You meant Barry Zito. That’s a relief. For a minute, I thought that you were trying to sell the idea of Jonathan Sanchez as a “left-handed ace”.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions
I can haz Bumgarner?
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
What I posted in Giant Torture's fanpost
The perpetual white whale: Andy Marte. First off, I think Pablo should be our 3B next year. But, it’d be nice to grab Marte and put him in Fresno, if he would accept it (not sure on the rules there). He’s never been able to hit at the MLB level, while getting sporadic playing time, but he’s hit .280/.343/.499 in AAA and his defense is about average. He’d be an interesting option.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Meh. I guess no one can hurt in Fresno, but I hope Andy Marte never spends any time on the Giants this season.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on Nov 17, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why does eveyone use the term white whale
when in the end the whale kills the one who chases it?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
And everyone around them, except one.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
It never really kills us,
just tortures for the rest of our long, natural lives.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Dude....
when in the end the whale kills the one who chases it
Spoiler alert…fuck.
lol
nice
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
What I can’t figure out is why everybody’s always wanting to drink the Kool-aid.
I just want to say: PEOPLE, EVERYBODY WHO DRANK THE KOOL-AID DIED!
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I don’t usually hear that expression used positively. It’s usually in the context of having fallen for something.
On the other hand, “dogfooding” does get used positively and it bugs me. Why should we eat our own dogfood? WE’RE NOT DOGS!!!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
I think that's the point
People who “drink the kool-aid” are people who are blindly falling into line. You know, like those people who blindly drank poisoned kool-aid.
It IS a pretty tasteless comparison, I must say. Offensive all around.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
But sometimes people say something along the line of “pass me some that Kool-Aid” etc.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I guess that's true
But even then, there’s an implication that “this may not be a good idea, but what the heck!”
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
A lot of those people didn't have a choice
Especially the kids
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
The kids I can understand
But how do you not have a choice to drink a poisoned beverage?
“You will drink this or I will…”
What? You die if you drink it.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Well, when someone has a gun pointed at you
You’ll probably do what the say, no?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Oh no! You will kill me if I don't let you kill me!
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
It bothers me when people say they are making a modest proposal and then actually make a proposal that comes across as being fairly modest. What the hell?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
IMMODEST PROPOSAL
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Dolphin free?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Rohlinger is exactly the same age as Marte, is an excellent fielder, and has hit .272/.353/.442 in AAA. I’d rather stick with what we’ve got.
Rohlinger??
I JUST MET ’ER!!!!!
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Hey your right. We are great minds!
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Trades we should make
1. Tim Lincecum for Alex Rios
2. Matt Cain for Prince Fielder
3. Jonathan Sanchez for Jose Bautista
4. Madison Bumgarner for Mark Reynolds
ANY QUESTIONS?
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions
Wow.
Rios, Fielder, Bautista and Reynolds would’ve essentially made the 2010-2011 Giants the 1989 Giants.
by Every6thDay on Nov 17, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Im all aboard the bautista train but not for sanchez
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 17, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
You're all aboard the bautista train but not for sanchez
Well, I’d glady trade Rowand — instead of J. Sanchez — for Bautista but the Blue Jays might balk at that.
The Giants might need to offer a little more for MLB’s leading home run hitter, and I’d sure consider offering up a Number 4 starter for him, even if that Number 4 starter might be a peg or so further up in someone else’s rotation.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Its not that i don’t understand you have to give up value to get value
its that i dont wont to break up our rotation for any circumstances unless of course we get blown away on something
im sure we could get bautista for prospects. Even if it means wheeler+ i would rather do that then break up the rotation
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 17, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I see what you’re saying, but I’m of a different mind.
I think that what you’re saying is that Jonathan Sanchez is more valuable as part of an ensemble than he is on his own.
And there’s something to be said for that. He fits this staff very well as a #4 starter.
Perhaps he could be a #2 or #3 elsewhere, but he wouldn’t be that great of a #2 or #3.
You anticipated my follow-up question of what exactly you would realistically give up for Bautista.
But I’m of another mind. I remember the lean years where the Giants were paying for their neglect of the farm system, and I’m not anxious for a repeat performance.
Yes, trading Sanchez for Bautista would create somewhat of a hole in the #4 slot in the rotation, but I think that it would be outweighed by Bautista’s presumed everyday production.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think you’re underestimating Sanchez….I think everyone is right now, because his last two outings are most prominent in our minds. But…
No-hitter
3.07 ERA, lowest on the team
.204 BAA, 1st in the NL
205 strikeouts, on track to beat out Timmy if he had pitched as many innings
And he has improved, every single year, since 2007.
He’s a lefty.
Granted, he’s far from perfect. Look at his walks. But I’m pretty sure if you went through all the pitching rotations in the MLB he would be a GREAT 3rd starter, a far better than average 2nd starter, and an ace in quite a few places.
__________
And even if all that was beside the point…trading Sanchez leaves us in a position to have to pick up another Todd Wellemeyer. Bad idea. Bautista alone won’t save our offense. And we don’t have the resources to trade Sanchez and then find a valid replacement.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Then again, it’s been suggested that if the Braves could get Uggla for Infante and Dunn, anything is possible.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Bautista for...
Fontenot and Runzler.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I really want Bautista on the Giants
He would hit SO MANY HOME RUNS in AT&T, since nearly all of his power goes to left (he had 1 home run to right field in 2010). Wanna see that. Jose Bautista is awesome.
If we could get it done without giving up Sanchez I would be ecstatic.
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not just chicks who dig the longball?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I also like his HR graph
Staunch Defender of Cake
by Angry Dwarf on Nov 18, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I like thinking that Matt Cain and that home run to right field hang out sometimes.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 18, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I bet we could get it done without giving up Sanchez. I would rather just keep Bumgarner though.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 18, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Come on guys, we are just a player or two short..
of a good run at being world series champians. Wait, what?
This could be our year!
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
No, they’ll break our hearts again, as they always do.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When did Torres start as Sabes stylist?
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions
TORRES IS SUSAN?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
It all makes sense now!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
/shift-A
“Unmarking 109 comments”
Well, then.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions
you've joined us!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yes, but sadly I have to leave for now. LOL SCHOOL.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Sometimes I feel like FP post should be limited to 109 comments
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Good thing FP doesn’t post here.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I couldn’t handle 109 posts from him. At least 83 would involve something about tacos.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, basically with Grant here
1b – Belt
2b – Freddy
3b – Pablo
SS – some free agent, Uribe seems like the best option
LF – some free agent, Crawford/Werth would be great but seem unlikely, Huff would be just fine
CF – Torres
RF – Ross
pitching – unchanged…
You know, Kevin Frandsen is probably going to be non-tendered
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Something tells me we won't be acquiring him.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I have high hopes for Ryan Rohlinger
Dude had a .900 OPS in AAA last year. He deserves to spend a year up on the club. But it’s a crowded roster.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yes, but John Bowker.
Also, John Bowker.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
One guy doesn't disprove the validity of all minor league stats
Oh, and Rohlinger doesn’t need to hit anywhere near as well as a left fielder needs to hit to be useful.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
How often do players who put up their first big season in the PCL after turning 25 end up being quality major league players?
by kingofthacove on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
This was Rohlinger's best year, yes
But he’s had pretty decent minor league numbers before now as well. He’s no great hitter, but when you consider that a ML utility guy only needs to have something like a .750 OPS to be above average, I think Rohlinger might be able to manage that.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
A .750 OPS for a career .795 minor leaguer is extremely optimistic. Even his .869 OPS in AAA last year (with a .369 BABIP) isn’t particularly impressive. He might be able to pass as a utility man, but he wouldn’t be a particularly good one.
by kingofthacove on Nov 17, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
I STILL BELIEVE IN JOHN BOWKER
Although that hope is starting to wane just a little bit.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I still believe
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
I feel like the Giants prefer Burriss to him
Even though Burriss is only better at being drafted higher and VROOOM
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
sl
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
AFL hope springs eternal
SF_Giants San Francisco Giants
Leading @MLBazFallLeague in Doubles: Charlie Culberson. Leading in Triples: Brandon Belt. Leading in HRs: Conor Gillaspie.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Man how did Conor Gillaspie turn into Mark Reynolds
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I'm going to go ahead and ignore that the AFL pitching is crap...
…And just be very, very happy about this =D.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
It’s our time. Thank you, baseball gods.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
it's like
we are the new Tampa Bay Rays of MLB
Kevin Mitchell has a black belt in keeping it real.
by kbsofaraway08 on Nov 17, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
EXCEPT WE HAVE RINGZ LOLZ
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I read that as ‘sounds like a white whale’.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I remember that game having better graphics.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
It’s still an all-timer on lame premise video games.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’ve got it, guys! You know how we can make an image of a sphere using our computers? Let’s give them personalities and have them fight!
Well, I don’t see how that could suck. Throw millions of dollars at it and see what happens.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’m super lame and no one ever throws millions of dollars at me.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
that's probably because you talk to yourself
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Look, just because I made fun of your favorite game doesn’t mean that we have to make this personal.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I think it does.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll kill you and everyone you know.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
As long as you do it dispassionately.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite game is Final Fantasy 7.
Please, make fun of that.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The story is trite and the character art is silly.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
now you've hurt my feelings.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Favorite game ever
But fine: Cloud is a little emo baby and he’s supposed to be the hero.
That could be the charge against all FF games though.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Cloud is emo
But the game does have Cid, who is a total badass, and Vincent. Cloud is an afterthought to me.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
FF3 is twice the game that FF7 is.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
If you mean 6 and not actually 3
Then I am in line right behind you.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I do.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And cool it with the hands, cowboy.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Oh I am sorry.
Those aren’t my hands, its these damn zucchini.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
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That’s clearly a robot that has a cannon on its arm. That’s never a bad idea.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Wow, I remember playing this game. I have no idea where/when/what system it was on, though.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds about right, what is it called?
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
He sounds like a Mega Man boss.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks. I’m buying it.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/34280/
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
MURDERERS' ROW
HERE WE COME!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
how "for real" is this?
i mean, is the pitching in the AFL any good? to have 3 guys coming up from the minors within 2011-2012 who can hit for average and power, sounds delicious
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
JohnSheaHey John Shea
Bochy 3rd, edging Cox, who did one of his best managing jobs. As expected, it was two-man race with Black edging Baker. Both deserving.
Was there really the impression around the country of this being a close race?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Hey here's an idea
let’s ask Aroldis Chapman’s shoulder in 5 years how great a manager Dusty Baker is. Or, we could ask Mark Prior today.
Black should have won by a landslide.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Hey here's an idea
let’s ask Aroldis Chapman’s shoulder in 5 years how great a manager Dusty Baker is. Or, we could ask Mark Prior today.
Black should have won by a landslide.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I thought it should have been Black
Because Cincy was expected to be a contender.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Cincy was a "sleeper" in the Central
for like the 10th consecutive year
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
2nd, and 1st year where it actually made sense
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Hey here's an idea
let’s ask Aroldis Chapman’s shoulder in 5 years how great a manager Dusty Baker is. Or, we could ask Mark Prior today.
Black should have won by a landslide.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Whoa, deja vu
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 17, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Shawon Dunston and Charlie Hayes would say that Dusty rules!
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Nov 17, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
That's an interesting link you have there.
Look at my website. Look at it. || I had some other text here but then the San Francisco Giants won the World Series
PROTECT
JohnSheaHey John Shea
#SFGiants purchase contracts of INF Ehire Adrianza and OF Thomas Neal. Both added to 40-man roster, which is 36 strong.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Good question.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Yes
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Rulez 5!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Crawford doesn't need to be added yet, he was only drafted 3 years ago
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
In my opinion
all of these free agents contain potassium benzoate.
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
BP "GM for a day" article on Giants is up.
Cliff notes: Perrotto says he’d dump Huff, Burrell, and Grant. Gets Uribe back, Pablo plays first, DeRosa third, Rowand in left field until his big reveal….surpise! Carl Crawford actually plays left! At which point “Rowand or Torres could go back to the bench.”
Some inventive commenter said this:
gbrisbee
(43669)
“Rowand or Torres could go back to the bench”
If the Braves get another outfielder, either Melky Cabrera or Jason Heyward could go back to the bench.
Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AMlinkinappropriate?rating: 0 ( + / – )Post Reply
I wonder if that guy has a blog somewhere. I might read it.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Not to mention the opening line
My first act as the Giants’ general manager for a day is to thank a higher power that I have Tim Lincecum, Mark Cain, Jonathan Sanchez, and Madison Bumgarner in my starting rotation.
Not a day goes by that I don’t thank my lucky stars for Mark Cain.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Baseball Prospectus
is far and away my favorite baseball book to get every year. I love them because they don’t believe in “clutch” hitting and they don’t get caught up intangibles that don’t show up in the stat column. like catching Jedi crap
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
want to buy my back issues
I have 1997-2004 I think. 1997 was the year they left the Cardinals out of the final addition and you had to print it out.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Haha. This happened?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
yes
their first printing. When they were just a bunch of rec.sport.baseball schlubs.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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beleive it or not
they used to be MORE snarky… and they had some serious Giants hate on (loved Bonds though)
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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i miss the good ol days
like when they called Jason Bere “Jason Ball 3 Bere” or they used to refer to Matt Treanor only as Misty May’s husband. 1 injury proned guy had his position listed as DL. they are still very funny, but much more diplomatic which sucks
Ignoring Tim Mccarver since 2002.
Melky got cut right?
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
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Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Wtf?
What was supposed to happen there?
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it was a levitation trick gone wrong.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I would love to see it go right.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Enrique_Rojas1 Enrique Rojas/ESPN
by LookoutLanding
Source: Oakland offered Adrian Beltre the same contract he had in Seattle ($64 millions, 5 years). Maybe he get more money.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Whoa
Billy wants to compete.
Maybe ownership thinks that making the playoffs would strengthen their case for moving out of oakland?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
So they’re finally free of the Eric Chavez deal and now they want to pay Beltre $64 mil. Okkkkk…
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
The A's tied for 15th worst record..
Do they lose a 1st rd pick with this signing? Normally top 15 is protected right? but what about ties?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Cliff Lee needs to sign so this shit can get moving
My forearms are getting tired from all this rosterbation
If Bostons involved I could see something like..
Ellsbury, Jed Lowrie, and one of their top pitching prospects for Upton
this is why trade rumors like this are kind of silly. What Arizona is really saying is “We’ll trade Upton if somebody wants to give up half their team and half their farm system” which is basically the same thing as saying they won’t trade him.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Kevin Towers just likes reading crazy internet trade rumors. Sometimes, there isn’t enough going on so he claims a guy like Upton or Gonzalez “might be available for the right package” just so he can have something to read on his coffee breaks.
If I was a GM, I would totally do that, too.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Maybe
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Um, or maybe...
Arizona thinks other teams would be willing to do what they did for Haren.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
what about Webb? he was injured all year, right? he’ll be back in 2011?
damn, ARI could have some good SP next year. not great, but league avg
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Webb’s a FA. Actually it’ll be interesting to see what kind of deal he can get.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Hmm
That sounds like a one year deal I might be interested in…
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
im not sure how old he is, but if Webb was signed, would Zito be moved (I can’t see how Zito could ever be moved), or would Sanchez (refuse to part with Timmeh, Cain, Bummy) be traded?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
Zito isn't going anwhere....
What on earth would we do with him? Its not going to happen.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I know, that’s why signing Webb is kinda an iffy prospect. Can’t move Zito, don’t want to move Bum, Timmeh or Cain, Sanchy has improved every year so dont want to move him… there’s not a rotation spot for him, and if we created a spot for him, id be worried about another injury
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
This.
The only person in the rotation I’m willing to move is Zito. And he’s the only person we CAN’T move. So, leave it alone I guess.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
there is a fangraphs post on this
Juston Upton = insanely valuable. As in, you cannot trade for him. I mean, would you trade Lincecum for him? I don’t think the Diamondbacks would take that deal without a sweetner, and they might be right (because of the $$ issue)
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
sadly
bad deal for the Dbacks.
A reasonable (and by reasonable, I mean “insane”) would be something like Cain + Bumgarner or Belt + Bumgarner + medium prospect.
I am totally serious, BTW. Upton is 23 and locked up for years. Cain will actually get paid.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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No, no, no.
God no! I’m thinking its far better for the Giants AND the Dbacks to just stay out of this one…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I doubt there will be an Upton trade
I would be stunned – as in more stunned than the Molina trade by 10000% – if the Giants traded for him.
It makes sense on no levels. The only reason a team would pay to get Upton would be if they had a very old core and a huge batch of A-level prospects & rookies, or 2 all-star rookies at the same position or something.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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Get a SS and LF bat
While Uribe can play SS, I really don’t think he can be our everyday SS. If we land Nish, then were set at SS but until then SS is our #1 priority we need to fill imo. Uribe is suited to play 3B especially if Pablo’s jenny craig diet/P90X aint cutting it.
What if Sabean dealt Pablo Sandoval and threw in a Jonathan Sanchez, what type of players or teams would be interested in getting them? I’m not saying we deal Sanchez but think Panda and Sanchez could be moved for the right player(s)…Would that be enough to land a big bat that’s not in the downside of his career?
Werth is the one player I want since he plays excellent defense and hit for power and avg. Corey Hart is another name that Giants brass covets and he might be the one player they do go after via trades. Getting Hart means that Huff plays LF..which I’m okay with.
LOL NO THANKS
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I guess you weren’t joking before
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
//stamps “return to sender” on this newsletter.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
It’s hand-crafted rag paper. It’s a snazzy newsletter.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Hart isn't worth Sanchez alone
let alone Sanchez AND Sandoval
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Now if we're talking Juston Upton..
This conversation gets more interesting
If we're talking Upton
I’ll carry Sandoval to Arizona on my back.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Step 1: Insert Madded game disc.
Step 2: Hack MLB rosters onto system.
Step 3: Go to trading block.
Step 4: Select Pablo Sandoval
Step 5: Select Jonathan Sanchez
Step 6: Get Sam Bradford and Chris Johnson in 3-team deal.
Step 7: Win World Bowl.
There is no profit.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Madded?
What’s that?
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
I figured that
BUT WHO PLAYS MADDEN ANYWAY?
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
I like Franchise mode, actually. Or, I did. I don’t know how sucky they made it. I stopped buying the game once Franchise mode started getting suckier. And I know the AI and sims in the game have always been lousy, but it was still fun before they overcrowded the mode with a bunch of crap.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like I conjugated that verb wrong.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Your posts make me cringe.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
There’s a certain logical tension between the ‘not saying we deal Sanchez’ and ‘think Panda and Sanchez could be moved for the right player(s)’…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
What if Sabean dealt Pablo Sandoval and threw in a Jonathan Sanchez, what type of players
or teams would be interested in getting them?
There are those that would think a “big bat” would be a good idea.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
What type of players would be interested in getting them? I’d like to know, actually.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 17, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I don't see why no.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Also, we’re still decades away from the first dolphin GM, which is a shame.
Coincidentally, I just watched a documentary which suggests that decades from now there may not be any dolphins. Fun.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
Fresh water dolphin is extinct
:(
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
It’s all pretty frightening.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
yep. you know how many endangered species died off last year?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I know. Now I’ll never be able to eat it.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nope.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
its about Japanese whalers (obviously, whaling is illegal) but the Japanese kill upwards of 30 whales a day down around Antarctica and claim they are doing “research” on the stomach contents, only problem is that after the “research” they package all the whale meat and sell it in Japan. They claim they don’t want to whale meat to go to waste, hence the packaging and selling of it.
On the other side are activists from all over the world (except Japan) who say they are illegally hunting the whales and aren’t really doing research, but hunting them because whale meat pays a premium in Japan.
So you got the two sides, and all the activists have boats that have been donated, and it gets pretty intense down there. You have Japanese whaling vessels and security vessels ramming the smaller activists ships, just a whole shit storm. International police don’t do anything about it because it’s hard to prove the real intent of the Japanese whalers. Anyways, you should check it out, I’m sure it’s on hulu.com. the show runs from March-Sep or so, during the whaling migration to the southern seas season
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
The “for science” whaling that Japan does was actually highlighted in the documentary I watched.
Now, obviously Japan is a major player in the world’s modern whaling problems, but I find it a little disturbing the way whaling is characterized as pretty much an “evil Japanese” practice these days. It’s a very weird sort of villianization that doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the problem as a whole.
It’s actually part of what turns me off of shows like Whale Wars, and a minor problem that I had with the documentary (The Cove, if you’re interested). There is some kind of western investment in making Japan – and specifically, in making the Japanese – out to be THE PROBLEM with whaling today. It makes me very uncomfortable.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
i used to watch Whale Wars until it got a little overboard with the racial lines it drew
The Western investment in in making, in this case the Japanese, villans is possible viewer contributions to the activists’ cause.
i totally hear ya on the “villianization” of Japan and Japanese people as a whole, because it is a culture issue that they are attacking as well (intentional or not), and personally think that they go too far on the whole “were the good guys, theyre the bad guys” as opposed to focusing more on the issue itself.
but by the same token, Japan has brought this on themselves (but not to the extent that is usually portrayed by documentaries/shows). Japan is a completely different culture that does eat whale and dolphin meat, and has done so for thousands of years. It’s hard to change (if not impossible) the ways of a culture, so therein lies the problem.
I don’t agree with the “picture being painted for me by biased others” take that many Western documentaries take, but I also acknowledge that Japans hands are far from clean in the whole issue.
There is a reason that authorities don’t take sides in the whaling/dolphin killing issues. The issue is not significant enough to leaders to the point where they would put relationships with other countries on the line.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
The Japanese whaling industry is horrendous, yes. But part of the problem with singling Japan out is that they are not the only whalers in the world. We’re not suffering the possible extinction of mass species of whales and dolphins because a fleet of fishing boats from a nation that houses less than 2% of the world’s total population. Villianizing Japan as the one and only whaling evil in the world isn’t just a problem because it manufactures racial issues – it’s a problem because it’s a really good way to ignore what’s actually happening.
And I think that it is paramount importance to constantly make the distinction between “The Japanese” and “the Japanese whaling industry”. Letting those lines blur is far more dangerous socially than it’s worth getting into here.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry for the grammar poops.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
I hope that’s made with real whale milk.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Also: It’s my understanding that dolphin meat isn’t that popular in Japan.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
I am aware that the Japanese whaling industry is not the only whaling industry in the world, but they get singled out in a similar way that Bonds got singled out of the masses for steriods- Japan is making the most noise with it, they are whaling far more than any others, thus, they will be the ones people think of when they think of whaling. I’m not disagreeing with you at all, but when you consider that there are those who make themselves targets (Bonds to steriods as Japan is to whaling) more than others.
As for the dolphin meat, I don’t think it as popular in Japan as it is in other Eastern Asia countries, but they enjoy dolphin meat as well.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
And by that measure, I would counter that singling Bonds out in the steroid scandal was one of the single biggest things that blinded most of the country to actual problems with steroids in baseball, which go back at least as far as the 1980s and likely into the early 70s. It screwed up the perception of the problem so badly that we’re still reeling from its effects.
The difference is that screwing up the perception of the whaling problem like that is going to cost the world species, whereas screwing up the perception of the steroid problem in baseball only cost the nation the chance to see a guy hit 800 HR.
That is insofar as the two are comparable to begin with.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
i totally agree. Bonds got singled out because he made the biggest splash, and it blinded everyone to the real problem. Same goes with Japan and the whaling.
Everyone just wants their scapegoat so they can avoid the real issue. I think it’s the subconscious brain creating some sort diversion to avoid addressing the underlying causes.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
I hate saying this because it sounds like such a whiny Bonds defense (He was a Victim!), but I honestly believe that if Bonds hadn’t existed, or someone like him in terms of his relationship with the media and the animosity he’d built up for years, there never would have been a “steroids scandal” and things would have continued on as they had to this day.
And I think this for a reason that always seems pretty valid in American life: because everybody was making money off the HR boom. The players, the owners, the media, everybody. That Maddux/Glavine commercial really summed the era up, and it wasn’t just chicks digging it. We all did.
Without the villain tying poor Henry’s record to the tracks in front of an oncoming train, that’s not a story most anybody cares about. In the end, the owners did what they always do (try to appear as if they care and point figures elsewhere), and the media did what it always does (realize that scandals are even better revenue engines as HRs), and the players did what they always do (try not to be the guy caught in headlight).
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Well the Japanese are crazy.
/points at natto
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Actually natto is a food consisting of fermented soybeans and is incredible disgusting (the food…not that blogger)
It’s like Japanese vegemite…
Makes good sammiches.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 18, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Makes gross sushi.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 18, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Divorce OT:
Eva Longoria Parker has filed for divorce from her husband of three years, San Antonio Spurs point guard Tony Parker, UsMagazine.com has learned.
She is seeking spousal support.
I guess Desperate Housewives money is not that good
She cited irreconcilable differences for the split.
Personal pet peeve: This is like the only choice for dissolution in California
The filing comes on the heels of the latest Us Weekly, which reports that Longoria Parker, 35, recently discovered that her husband, 28, has been exchanging personal texts with a mutual female friend for nearly a year — hundreds in just one month.
When did Parker start hanging out with Tiger Woods?
When did Parker start hanging out with Tiger Woods being a professional athlete?
by kingofthacove on Nov 17, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was cool when Eva Longoria sent roses to Evan Longoria when he was selected to his first All Star game. She was at the peak of her popularity and he was just some new kid at his first All Star game.
But now he is a media whore chasing people all over South Florida for his cap.
How times change.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
It’s just a damn cap – he can afford a new one!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yes!
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 17, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
This just got way more interesting
Tony Parker may now have more than just marriage problems to worry about.
His estranged wife, Eva Longoria, found hundreds of text messages to the NBA star’s phone from the wife of one of his teammates, the actress tells pal Mario Lopez of Extra.
The woman’s identity wasn’t revealed nor was the name of the San Antonio Spurs teammate
FTFY
This justgot way morestayed exactly asinterestinguninteresting as it was before.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
The you’ll love this.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. I have no fucking clue what he turns to her and says.
On the other hand, I like this song a lot more than I realized.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, I’m pretty sure he turns to her and says the next few lines in the song.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Oh.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I was actually expecting this when I clicked that link. Didn’t know there were so many versions of this.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
& LeBron’s mom?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
From ‘not interesting at all’ to ‘microscopically interesting’.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a more punchable face in Hollywood than Mario Lopez?
Rhetorical question. The answer is no.
by JSing on Nov 17, 2010 4:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
my gf got furious with me
when she told me that, and I said “Hey, no matter how hot the woman is, somewhere in the world, a guy is tired of f*cking her”
She’s still not talking to me….
Things not to say to one’s significant other.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
there should be a list for the not-so-smart ones
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
It’s all in how you say it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
im an advocate of “it’s not what you say, but how you say it” too, but there are just still some things that you just shouldnt say, no matter how you phrase it.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
I say it like ‘Those jeans really look great on you’.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
he says ‘Those jeans make your ass look curvier but I like it’. oops
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
I care just enough to hope she marries Evan Longoria, and not one iota more.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
If Coco Crisp was to steal Ice-T’s wife (Coco) and then marry her….
they would both be named: Coco Crisp.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
LOL. and I thought Eva and Evan Longoria were close.
got any others?
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
OT
Baseball Mogul Simulation? Fun?
I wasted a few years of my life in the mid-00s playing “Out of the Park Baseball”…anyone recommending Baseball Mogul?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 1:03 PM PST reply actions
why not OOTP?
I’ve been playing it for months and it’s still fun.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
Just wondering if BMogul has a bunch more features or what have you….
and my copy of OOTP is on my older, deader, computer.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
BBM is actually a lot less deep than OOTP
OOTP is by far a better sim, BBM is pretty much “Load game, trade 10 AAAA players for an MVP, win 120 games and world series”
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
that is sadly a bug in OOTP too
but I’m quite happy with it. Any game can be cheated, not a lot different from editing the rosters to make the team’s players super.
The main trade bug seems to be salary dumps… the AI really can run a fire sale when it wants to.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve played at least three different versions of BBM. In my opinion, BBM 2010 is far more challenging than the previous versions I played from 1999-2005. I’ve played it on Coach and Manager levels. Trades are generally reasonable, although you can dump bad contracts in some cases. What I’ve noticed most of all is that it’s just more challenging to win consistently throughout a single season no matter what your opening day roster looks like. I keep finding myself in first place until late June, then fading.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
OOTP is ridiculously slow. It has smarter AI, but the layout is not very intuitive. If you want challenge, I suppose OOTP is better, but BM is actually fun, easy, and quick to play.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Oh, yeah, I only really play BM because OOTP takes way too much time for a bunch of dumb baseball stuff. But OOTP is much more complex as a sim than BM.
Also awesome: simming 100 seasons in BM.
GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS GIANTS
by J. Frank Parnell on Nov 17, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
There’s a guy on the BM forums that does a box score parser for BM. Gives you a lot of the stats OOTP does (including monthly splits, vs. teams, etc), but in a much easier layout. I use it to bridge some of the gap between the two games.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
BM.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
TMI
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Rosterbation is only fun for me on blogs…video game rosterbation is not that interesting to me unless it’s in connection with an actual sports video game
Technically a baseball sim like OOTP or BM are actual sports video games.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Wow number disagreement.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
not only that
they’re pretty much JUST rosterbation.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds really fun to me, actually
Maybe I’ll give BBM a try
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Nice picture
but did they win the World Series that year?
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
rec'd
I’m going to have start saving some of the goofy shite that I’ve seen. Most of them are related to Zito and Rowand trades…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
I still can't believe you can actually trade away Zito and Rowand in that game...
And get a little in return.
The thing is, it happened.
like I said elsewhere
the trade AI requires some self-discipline for the game to not get silly.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Whaaaa?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Japan? Mexico?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
AWESOME
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
A favorite old Baseball Mogul image I sent Grant back in the day
by Stoned Slacker on Nov 17, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Below average control
Ain’t that the truth.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
FRANCHISE PLAYER
- OVERALL PICK IN THE DRAFT
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Thanks for all the replies!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
OOTP es mejor de Beisbol Mogul
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
In news that will make you sad
I have the free version of OOTP. In the process of trading Barry Zito, I was forced to also give up Matt Cain. Of course, Cain never did turn out too well for me so no big loss right? I STILL MISS YOU MATT
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
caption says it all
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
How much would Pena be estimated at?
I wouldn’t mind him at all if Huff leaves.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
I'd go with Belt if we can't get Huff.
No doubt he could hit for a similar BA and probably get on base as much. Power would be the only question.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I like Pena a lot
but he doesn’t fit on an NL team with a prospect like Belt nearly ready for the Majors.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Being able to stick Huff in left field is nice.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Sure he does
Let Belt start in the minors, then make way for him after a few months through trade, like with Bengie.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Pena
And Pena might sign a 1 year, show the world I can still hit, incentive laden deal.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
hmm… i still think Aubrey brings more to the table. But if you’re talking Huff in LF, Pat gone, then Pena as 1B until Belt is ready, that could be a good proposition.
Pena is LH too, right?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Rosterbation at its best:
The Diamondbacks lost 97 games last season with Justin Upton in right field and Stephen Drew at shortstop.
They might not be worse if they traded one, or even both. In fact, they might be better — at least long-term — if they received the right players in return.
I like Upton but would love to have Drew…
Same article:
THE JAYS: RUNNERS-UP FOR UGGLA
The Blue Jays showed the most early interest in Dan Uggla, but offered largely unheralded players — right-handers Josh Roenicke and Danny Farquhar plus either shortstop Ryan Goins or outfielder Darin Mastrioanni, according to major-league sources.
The Jays, a team unlikely to reach the postseason in 2011, did not want to extend any further for Uggla, a player whom they could control for only one year at a salary that could exceed $11 million in arbitration.
The Braves instead landed Uggla after a late push on Tuesday, acquiring him for infielder Omar Infante and left-hander Mike Dunn.
The Cardinals, a team that seemingly had a need for Uggla, never seriously engaged the Marlins. The Tigers were unwilling to part with significant talent. The A’s showed slight interest, but acquired outfielder David DeJesus.
Maybe the Marlins got the best deal they could…
Kind of presumptuous
The Jays, a team unlikely to reach the postseason in 2011,
I am sure the Jays don’t think that and I doubt their GM was influenced in the decision because of that.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I think the Dbacks will contend next year
or at least be ~.500. Their bullpen was terrible, and that’s not the hardest thing to correct.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
they will be a surprise team, i agree. their starting pitching improved quite a bit after the deadline last year, offense is solid, their massive gaping hole is the bullpen. If they shore that up, they will be a .500 team or close to it.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
If zenbitz just said they will contend, how will they now surprise anyone?
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
everyone West of the Mississippi doesnt know baseball exists in the West. There wasn’t a WS in 2010 to them
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
#sfgiants fan are amazing that should be a trending topic #giantsfanArebetter
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
sorry
that’s from TDaddyNeal
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
just keepin’ it real
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Strange thing but...
I have this comlpetely irrational thought that the Giants will continue to produce high quality MLB bats through the draft and development. Maybe it’s a crazy Buster Posey high, buffered by a few Pablo Sandoval pills and chased with a drink of Brandon Belt, but whatever it is it makes me want to pass on free agent hitters over the age of 29. They will always cost too much for too long, and almost always that will mean paying them way to much for far to little at some point during the contract. Not even His Excellency Barry Bonds was immune to that. I assume that our own free agents are attainable, considering the things they have said, and what management has said. I have no desire anymore to chase a big FA bat. It feels very strange to say that.
If I felt like we needed one guy to put us over the top I’d try to do the unprecedented and offer him 2 years of primo money for one year of service. In the case of Worth, I’d be thinking, 25-28 million for one year. Or maybe a 24 million 1 year with a 20 million second year or a 3 million buyout.
The offense is plug and play for the next three years because we have the best and most team-controlled pitching staff since the inception of free agency.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Music after clutch at bat in postseason
I posted this in an earlier thread but since it was so long I dont think many had a chance to see it. When the Giants got a clutch hit in the playoffs they would play this song. Here is an example of when it was played in game 5 of the NLCS. I thought it was a neat song to play in the moment so I wanted to share. Enjoy
Just say NO to free agents, they take your draft picks.
Is this part of a social media campaign?
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
So he could go back in time and kill the parents of the people involved in making it?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
We must replace all rally music with this. It can’t possibly get old.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
It’s not as humorous without the porno-graphic of a fist pumping.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Shift + A
I’ll be happy if they re-sign the 2010 squad and have a 162 game victory tour. But I wouldn’t complain if they got Jayson Werth for 5 years.
I can't fight this feeling anymore!
I can only assume that he’s hugging himself, who went back in time a year from now after his hair grew out some more just to hug himself and show him how beautiful his hair is going to be.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
He's hugging his high school friend
who was starring as the Wicked Witch at ACT. She’s pretty fine. Timmy didn’t look like he was suffering.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Not shown is Burrell nailing her five minutes later.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Nov 17, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the update on her sexual desirability.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure this is wrong and it’s the time traveling thing.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
except the part
about the Burrell nailing. That’s true.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
Here's the video
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"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
I’m sticking with time travel.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
We're not in Kansas any more, Cy!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Captain Janeway wants to see you in her ready room.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Oh man, not another man-to-man talk.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 18, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Baggs?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 17, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, I should probably wash the dishes and clean up the cat poo.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
dont do both at once. cat poo makes terrible dish soap
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 17, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
I ended up doing both at twice, and that worked out okay.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
With its poo?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 17, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Might have been posted before but everyone needs to know...
The US Senate is trying to pass a bill that would allow the government to censor the internet in the United States. The government would add any website, without explaination, to a black-list and all US ISPs would be forced to comply and black out the site. Kinda hinders the whole “freedom of speech” on the internet. Feel free to send an email to your Senator. This is kinda like when they hid the rave act in the Amber Alert bill (not that I think the Rave Act was a bad thing, but it was the hiding of it that was sketchy)
So you’re actually like an actual progressive activist?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
i chase activists off my porch with a hose
but the idea that the US government wants to essentially censor the internet takes issue with me, because the country is founded on freedoms of speech, press, etc- and by censoring it, they are taking that away.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
they are hiding the censorship bill in another bill that is for copyright infringement, which is also sketchy… why hide the bill in another bill unless you’re trying to squeak something past the public?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
While I don’t support this type of behind closed doors bullshit, there have always been limits on free speech. I think that the internet being so open and free from this type of restraint is one of the things that has made it so revolutionary and unique.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
the internet being so open and free is another reason it has grown so much. the internets “roots” are free to move in any direction, and create new submarkets, because it is not necessarily policed.
I know it’s not a good example, but look at China. They censor their internet, and what comes of that?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
The fastest growing economy on Earth? Just kidding… that openness is threatening to authoritarians of all stripes. As it should be because control of information is an essential element to social control.
At the same time, I’m no market fundamentalist – I think totally unrestricted markets are generally a recipe for massive human suffering. Bit of a thorny problem…
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well IMO the internet creates submarkets in the sense of advertising among other things, and I’m no market fundamentalist either, lol.
lassiez-faire economy (no governement intervention) isnt good on a large scale (no policing of the financial markets created this huge financial meltdown) but the internet is an interesting case. It isn’t a business in the sense that it sells you anything, but as the internet grows it creates more opportunities for new businesses to start up, creates more advertising, etc.
that openness is threatening to authoritarians of all stripes. As it should be because control of information is an essential element to social control.
you hit the nail on the head. the gov’t wants to control the flow of information, and considering the US is built on the principle of freedom, it seems counterintuitive to start censorship. if it starts here, where does it end? enclosed in the bill, the gov’t wants to have everyone register with an IP address, like a drivers license for the internet, with all your information hooked to your IP address.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
That's conspiracy theorist logic
To say that this law could, conceivably, be extended to purposes other than its stated purpose is one thing, but to jump from that to OMG THEY’RE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING doesn’t follow.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
conspiracy theory? like how they couldn't pass the Rave Act, so they hid it in the Amber Alert Bill and it passed
I was in college, business major at the time the Amber Alert Bill passed, and did a huge workup on it. The Rave Act didnt pass openly, but was hidden in the back of the Amber Alert Bill and it passed probably because alot of people didnt notice it. They’re doing the same thing here, saying they want to be able to block sites that are involved in Copyright Infringement, but there is a censorship of any site, for any reason part in the back of this bill too.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Where?
I read the bill text (at least to the extent I could without losing conciousness) and I couldn’t find anything that didn’t specifically relate to “infringing sites”.
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by EliminateMe on Nov 17, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
This bill is paving the way on the internet (same as the Patriot Act did to the citizen) for abuse of the system.
my buddy linked me to the site for opposition of the bill, I’ll copy it off my facebook and link it up here.
Though I think I can answer your question- what defines an infringing site? MCC at times puts up photos taken at a baseball game. That could be interpreted as copyright infrigement. or the gifs that people post. Now, I know they won’t shut down MCC, but by passing the bill, you’ve paved the way for that (in theory) to happen.
Youtube could probably be shut down, if they so desired. You’d only find “official” sites for whatever you are looking for. Giants official site would be the only Giants website available, if they so desired.
This bill is paving the way on the internet (same as the Patriot Act did to the citizen) for abuse of the system.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
That's a valid point
The bill defines infringing sites as ones where copyright infringement is central to the activity of the site. That is open to interpretation, certainly. And it’s possible, though I don’t think it likely, that someone has deliberately crafted the bill in order to leave it open to other uses. But when you start talking about something being hidden in the bill, and taking that as proof of nefarious purpose, then you need to have some kind of evidence to back that up.
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Hey, as long as it blocks Purple Row I'm fine with it
/just picked a random website
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im all for PR being shutdown too, haha
but thats just the thing- they can pick and block any website they want if this bill passes.
gov’t doesn’t like a conspiracy theory website? they could block it from every single computer in the US and no one would even know.
They’re taking away freedom of speech on the internet at their own discretion. That is my problem with this.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah
I agree, it’s awful but I was making a bad joke.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
i agree with the bad joke. if this stupid bill passes, ill hack the US computers and block PR myself :)
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. I should complain to my Senator.
Oh, except I live in DC so I DON’T FREAKIN’ HAVE ONE!
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
You should move to America.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
well, if you're in DC you could just stand on a corner with a sign (just kidding)
so there is a sports franchise (hockey i think, then there used to the baseball too) called the Washington (DC) Senators, except DC doesn’t actually have any Senators?
LOL
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
That joke went around town a lot when they were trying to figure out what to name the Nats.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
oh really? Isn’t there a hockey team in DC named the Senators now?
Nationals was a really original name : /
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Ottawa
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
ahh. Ottawa Senators doesn’t even sound good.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
Hockey team is Capitols; basketball is Wizards (possibly worst name ever); football is Redskins (another pretty bad one). Senators was the legacy name from previous baseball teams in DC.
I for one wanted to go with Homestead Greys.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I miss the Bullets.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 18, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Hey I used to live next to DC General. I’ve missed a few bullets in my time as well.
/ba dump bum
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I’m on Team Matt Cain.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Tim Lincecum.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Matt Cain
Tim Lincecum
…
And then maybe Halladay.
…
And not Lee. Ever. Sorry, I know he’s a good pitcher but I can’t stand him.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
boy, doesn’t it feel great to know that our Giants-
1) ended the Phils “dynasty” that everyone was saying they would have after beating us and advancing to the WS again.
2) beating Cliff Lee twice, who if he had won both WS games, they say he’s the best postseason pitcher EVER.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
This.
1) And they thought they had the better rotation…hahahahahaha….
2) What was Cainer’s ERA again?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
SP 1-4, talent wise, our rotation is better, but 1-3, it’s even. Bum vs Blanton pushes it way on our side.
0.0000000000000, or so i heard
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Pffffft
I’m going to be a homer and say that our 1-3 was better =P.
Wow! Isn’t that like super impressive or something?
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I feel like at this point, Bummy is our 3rd best starter. Dude is really f’n good.
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
I think Bum is our 3rd best too, but he will be 4th starter in 2011.
Timmeh, Sanchy, Cain, Bum, Zito. They’ll want to break up the RH Timmeh/Cain with a LH.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
Probably true.
But…wince we’ve seen less of him…and since Sanchez gets better every year. I’m not betting money yet. Besides, however it rolls, I’m extraordinarily happy about our rotation anyways.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
He is our 3rd best, but in the 2011 rotation he’ll be the 4th starter.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
er, actually, I dunno. Sanchy hit a wall in his final playoff starts. Don’t forget what he did in Sep/Oct, 9 or 10 straight starts with an ERA just over 1.00
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
This.
The rest of the nation underestimates Matt Cain. I think Giants fans are underestimating Sanchez. By a lot.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
i dont think the rest of the nation underestimates Cain after what he did in the playoffs. If he makes it back next year (or whenever) and throws 7 more scoreless innings, I think he sets the longest scoreless inning streak in MLB history. He went 21-1/3 IIRC, the record is around 27.
I don’t personally underestimate Sanchy, he’s only gotten better every year since 2007. If he can cut down on the walks that would be great, but even with the walks, his final 9-10 starts (before playoffs) were superb. Like ERA of just north of 1 superb.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to think this is true. Except for I’m not sure the rest of the nation watched the play-offs. I know Seattle didn’t. So the sports writer’s might have a slightly better idea of him…but not many others. Not that it matters anyways. And I REALLY hope he can break that record…=D.
Agreed. And there are legit reasons for him running into a wall against Philly in Texas. Go see his IP numbers.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
the nation watched the NLDS and NLCS, I'm sure. but prolly not the WS
yeah he went pretty far over his career high, but so did MadBum. It affects some, doesn’t affect others. Maybe it affects others later down the road.
I’m not gonna look up how far Cain is from the record, or how many more IP he’d have to go. There’s alot of baseball to go before that matters (if it even does at all)
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
Can't miss the Phillies and the Yankees...
I think MadBum is the exception rather than the rule in this case. Even Timmy was getting tired by the end of the play-offs, and he was far closer to his career high than Sanchi.
This is true. But I can’t quite keep it out of the back of my mind.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I think we very properly estimate him
Until he gets his walks down, he’s a THIRD STARTER AT BEST.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I wouldn't be surprised
If they lined it up Tim/Bum/Matt/Jon/Barry
THIRD STARTER AT BEST
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Can someone please explain...
The importance of the whole R/L/R/L thing! Does it actually matter? I don’t get it!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
In theory, it’s an old school baseball practice of not showing the opposition a similar pitcher that pitched the day before. Because Lincecum is so different than any pitcher in baseball, it doesn’t really apply having a more conventional Cain follow him.
by giantdonkey on Nov 17, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
I like the R/L/R setup, for reasons beside what was mentioned above. Spread out the best pitchers a little, so theres no drop-off at the tail end of the rotation. Every team will face at least 2 very tough pitchers in a 3 game set.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
This reason I like. Though, it happens to apply particularly well to this team at the moment and possibly not many others. If Timmy and Cain were our only two legit pitchers I’d be less tempted to separate them just so the pitching match-ups would be kept more or less even.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
yep. because you can’t align a rotation 3/4 of the way through the year, and you play, say, Astros then Rockies, you don’t want to chance it that your best 2 pitchers might pitch against the Astros when the Rockies games, being head-to-head, will be more important.
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
Khehehehe. Except for I love that “best two pitchers” is semi-debatable on this team, depending on how everyone is doing at the time. Though as a rule I’d say Lincecum and Cain, I have plenty of confidence in Sanchi and MadBum (just looked up his minor league stats. whistles).
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Trick question
What was Cainer’s ERA again?
HE DIDN’T HAVE ONE!!!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
he did.
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
That does not have enough zeroes.
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
gimme more 0’s. 0’s, I SAY!!
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by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
I bet you...
Matt Cain could post a negative ERA.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
If he had an RBI in the playoffs, I would give him a negative ERA
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
This is possible.
His hitting is not bad. He could do what Timmy did in that first game against the Braves.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
he would have had an RBI if that runner (forget who) was on 2nd instead of 1st in the WS Game 2
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
They should have stolen...
Lucky Posey Call 2.0
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
D’awwwww. The little fella’s passed out. How adorable.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
In my crazy dream
The Giants break the bank for Lee so that their rotation is Lincecum, Lee, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner.
Also, in this same dream, tickets and food at the ballpark are reasonably priced.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
I think it’s perfectly fair to have to break my $100 to buy a pair of crab sandwiches.
(Note: I don’t actually have any $100s. I wish.)
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
charge an extra $5 per ticket, and you just paid Lee’s $20 mil salary per year.
Hmm, maybe they should just bump up tickets by $2, so they will have an extra $6mil each year. That’s can go in the Buster Posey Stays a Giant Forever Fund
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
I like the second idea better.
Forget Lee. We don’t need ’im!
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I STILL WANT MY BUSTER STAYS A GIANT FUND!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
So do I…and a Timmy fund and a Cain fund.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
i think Timmy and Cain stay for a long time. Timmeh, well, SF will pay whatever it takes to keep him. Cain, he likes it here anyways, so that’s great. If the pitching can stay intact, Buster probably stays. Catchers with his skills don’t exactly bounce from team to team- IMO the Giants should be offering to buy out his arb years AND 3-4 of his FA years when he is arb-eligible.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
This is what I tell myself...
And then I’m scared that its just wishful thinking and we’ll lose one of them. But I really, really, real, really, really, really, really, really, really hope that we don’t.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
I’d only be worried if Cain was iffy. But when you start to have players who come out saying they wouldn’t want to play anywhere else, it promotes an atmosphere where everyone else wants to stay too.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
And there was that “over my dead body” comment Timmy made in New York…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
he likes the cold. only place id worry about is Mariners, but they suck, and i think he likes to win
by giant4life83 on Nov 18, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
The one time I visited Seattle was during a weird heat wave
My memories have clashed with the precipitation realities ever since.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Hahaha, that was a pretty weird summer...
You should have come this “summer”. We had actual summer weather for a total of like a week.
And so true on the Mariners. They need help. So much help.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Ticket prices
charge an extra $5 per ticket, and you just paid Lee’s $20 mil salary per year.
I think baseball has long passed the point where they’re leaving money on the table by underpricing tickets. They’re already charging the most they think they can get away with.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
I still can't believe this is what a WS Championship in SF looks like
WORTH EVERY PENNY
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
It looks like some sort of demon is sitting next to that blonde lady behind the plate.
WWRWD?
by SF Pete on Nov 17, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Vader in disguise.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
I AM NOT AN EWOK
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like the ghost of Christmas future
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 17, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
New King of Pop References
Grant, you went all Dennis Miller on this great post. I’m not saying every bullet point had a reference worth knowing, but if Jimmy Wales got commission on hit counts he wouldn’t have to put out the tip jar.
You got me on the Cliff Lee link. I only clicked because I thought it was 80% likely you chose MadBum and 20% likely you chose Sanchez.
And I know it doesn’t matter for the joke , but I think everyone should know that Bill Watterson doesn’t endorse or make money off the Calvin peeing stickers. They are bootlegs. He is a total purist – the only commerical products he wants to sell are his actual strips. He’s the anti-Jim Davis and my hat’s off to him. Don’t buy C&H bootlegs!
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Calvin peeing stickers are automotive sign language for ‘I am an idiot’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 18, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
Michael Jackson references?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Marlin GM: Crazy like a....
The Marlins intend to spend the money they saved in the Dan Uggla trade on an established starting pitcher and Javier Vazquez and Carl Pavano are among the team’s top targets, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.
Not as huge as heimy.
Fact.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of free agents...
…I’m really loving the fact that Cliff Lee is the big name on the market and that virtually every story about him has a line like this:
He was 7-0 with a 1.26 ERA in eight career postseason starts before twice losing to San Francisco in the World Series.
It’s just so beautiful.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
I... I... can't stop looking at it!
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
•Cliff Lee -- No, thanks. We have our left-handed ace for the next decade. Getting another one would be greedy.
Grant, That is the nicest thing youv’e had to say about Zito to date!!
Buy High,Sell Lower- The Brian Sabean methodology to Running (Ruining) the Giants
by Mordy From Monsey on Nov 18, 2010 10:21 AM PST reply actions
Zito?
He was talking about Javier Lopez. I for one am looking forward to a whole decade of 1.42 ERA, 0.684 WHIP, 8.0 K/BB pitching from him.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 18, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Werth will go to Boston, Lee to NY/TX and Crawford to LAA.
I’m not rosterbating them. Substitute Belt for Ish. Within reason, sign the other 2010 players. Getterdone.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
It doesn’t specify an order.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 18, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
It says “Go to die and win WS MVPs.” It doesn’t say “die and THEN win.” The order is totally up for grabs.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 18, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Calm, dead eyes.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Nov 18, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
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