The first question of the offseason
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 2:28 PM PST
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The people coming back to the Giants for sure:
C – Posey
2B – Sanchez
CF – Torres
OF – Ross
LB – Sandoval
There are so, so many movable parts and uncertainties with this lineup and the pending free agents. Makes it hard to rosterbate effectively, it does. Aubrey Huff can kind of play a couple of positions, so can Sandoval, and the one majors-ready prospect in the system shares a position with both of them, and it all might be contingent on if the Giants re-sign their shortstop to play third base in the event that a second baseman from Japan is signed to play short, as the third baseman would be at first, but only if he loses weight. Obviously.
One question, then, that needs to be answered before any rosterbation:
- Is Pablo Sandoval the starting third baseman?
Figure it out now, and send a team of Navy SEALs to escort him through the offseason if you need to. If Pablo starts at third, it closes a lineup opening. If Sandoval isn’t starting, the offseason is a free-for-all that can include anyone from Uribe to Adrian Beltre. But if the Giants go to great lengths to put someone else at third base, that could leave a McCovey/Cepeda-sized mess at first if Sandoval impresses the Giants with his return to form and Brandon Belt performs as expected in AAA.
Well, the Giants could always put Sandoval in left, like they did with Cepeda. That would be one way to boost ticket sales.
The Giants can’t afford to have Sandoval be a pleasant surprise after the rest of the lineup is settled, and then try to figure out how he’s going to get at-bats. They also can’t afford to count on him, ignore all sorts of different roster permutations, and have him roll into town speaking Huttese. He was one of the worst third basemen in the NL last year, even if it was a strong collection of players with which he was competing. Still, he was only 23 last year, and you’d think that sitting and watching his team win the World Series without him would be good motivation to get a little more fit and prepared.
Heck, I don’t have an answer. But the Giants should. The wait-and-see game would be a great way for the organization to be left with moldy offseason leftovers.
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I absolutely do
At best, he’s an above-average LF. At worst, he’s a great bench bat.
I don’t know why everyone is so blase about bringing back Burrell. We need his offense.
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Look, I'm still dreaming about Carl Crawford, okay?
And I see him as an upgrade over Burrell. SORRY!
Haha
Sure, Crawford is an upgrade over Burrell. But Burrell’s an upgrade over DeRosa, or whoever else you might want to play LF next year.
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Just Crawford. Once he signs with another team,
I’m open. I don’t think DeRosa should just be penciled in to a starting role just because he’s recovered from surgery, either.
Yeah, we're not getting crawford
and it’s a good thing. Because he’s going to get paid wayy too much for his relative value, and his value will be almost gone in like 2 years.
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The Red Sox are talking to Arizona about acquiring Justin Upton. I like that plan much better, though I have no idea what we could offer up beyond Wheeler that would match the Red Sox’ system.
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mmmm me likey
why the hell would the dbacks deal him though:!??!?! What?!
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....really?
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Pablo for Reynolds
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Love that idea
Reynolds doesn’t have the upside, but doesn’t have as much downside either.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well he could degenerate into a one true outcome hitter
At least Pablo has two true outcomes, SO or GIDP.
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oh, gotcha
yeah, I guess that makes sense. If they’re looking to deal him then GIT R DUN
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Way cheaper too.
They actually want to get rid of Reynolds.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
Not unless
You put Huff back in LF. Then you have 1B options of Ishikawa, Sandoval, calling up Brandon Belt, or signing some other first baseman.
UUUUUUUUUU
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
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Versatility
Brian Sabean loves him some versatility. That’s the best way to hedge our bets with Sandoval.
DeRosa helps with that. If we keep Uribe, that would help too.
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I hate to say it...
but the smartest, safest solution is to trade Pablo. If Sabean gets any sort of good offer for him, I think he has to go for it….
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:34 PM PST reply actions
uhhh
what team is going to make “any sort of good offer” for him at this point? I’m pretty sure that’s one of the WORST solutions. You’d get nothing in return
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I don't think it'll happen at all.
Which is why I’m saying, IF we get any sort of good offer, we have to take it.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
IF sarah roemer called me tomorrow and asked me out, I'd say yes
but that’s not going to happen.
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So you're saying there's a chance....
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, seriously?
a 24 year old, only in the league for 2 and a half years with a career line of .305/.356/.484/.839, under team control for a few more years, and you think the smartest, safest solution is to trade him?
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Nonononono
I’m saying because of the questions surrounding what will happen with him, IF we get a good offer (which we won’t, I know), then we should take it.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
so why even bring it up
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Well, to put it simply...
Because I can.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Given Sabean’s past history, he doesn’t trade a guy unless the organization has given up on him. At least since 2003. My feeling is if Pablo is traded, it will be for a fairly modest return, and Pablo will likely not enjoy great success down the road. The regrets will all be based on what could have been, and not so much the trade itself.
That said, I think Pablo can regroup and contribute.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I agree on all counts of this comment
Basically what I was trying to say, but with eloquence.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think the best bet is to keep Pablo, but not count on him
He’s pretty much free right now and has a ton (ha ha) of upside
The thong is, it happened.
I basically agree with that. Although I’d go into the season planning on giving him the first half as starter to reestablish himself.
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I don't think I give him anything
I think part of the “tough love” that Bochy is reportedly giving him should include having to earn a starting job.
The thong is, it happened.
I don’t really relish the thought of Pablo’s fate being determined by a handful of at bats in march.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
If John Bowker -- JOHN BOWKER -- can "prove" himself in that same amount of at bats
surely, Pablo could do the same. And he doesn’t have to prove that he can play in the bigs, but that he’s made the necessary adjustments to survive in the league.
I thik just showing up in shape and focused goes a long way toward "earning" the job
There were whispers that he was enjoying being Pablo a little too much last off-season. He needs to show he’s serious about being a ball-player.
The thong is, it happened.
The problem that arises is that where is his true talent level? I don’t think we will ever see a full 2009 Pablo return, but I don’t think we will see as worse a Pablo as 2010. His true talent is somewhere in the middle, IMO.
I just don’t want to see them push him and push him trying to find that 2009 magic, because he just might not truly be that good. I’m not saying settle for 2010 Pablo, but at some point, above average 3B with ability to hit any pitch is still valuable and an asset to the offense
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
I will honestly be pretty surprised if spring training and the 1st month of the season don’t determine his fate this season.
he’s still league average. if 2009 pablo hasn’t returned, so long as he keeps his weight down and doesnt make alot of errors, its not like theyre gonna not play him.
i think some of those errors in 2010 were a result of no confidence in his game.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
How about if I talk a good game about sending him to Fresno and giving the job to DeRosa, but in my head I’ve secretly penciled him to start 3b?
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A lot of things suck for him.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
This
I don’t think they should just blindly give him at-bats, but his upside is tremendous.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
When did Zito and Rowand decide to void their albat... er... contracts?
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....
WOW.
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WHAT!?!?!?!?!?
and again…
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?
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excuse me, I'm stupid
this is outrageous because marlins arent getting anything good back, right?
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yes
a thousand times yes
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Not only that
the trade was made to a division rival.
It really doesn’t make much sense to me.
I’ll give them this: they had no real chance of contending the last couple years because their bullpen was a joke. They’ve made three trades this week all aimed at putting together a bullpen. It ain’t sexy but we of all fans should know the value therein.
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That said they should at least have made Atlanta fork up Venters.
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no kidding
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Yeah Venters or Kimbrel
Or one of their 80,000 great pitching prospects in the minors
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They should have...
Not been dealing with Atlanta to begin with! How many other teams would have been willing to make a similar trade!? Including the relief pitcher!? That DIDN’T include giving a 30+ home run hitter to a division rival!?
That’s where the idiocy in this lies as far as I’m concerned…
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
If you think a trade benefits your team, why wouldn’t you want to deal with another team in your division? Since it hurts them more than it helps them (in the long run), that’s exactly what you should want to do.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
seeing as how this trade in no way hurt ATL, that’s the greatest trade ever. one of a ton of relivers and Infante? that’s pennies. we could have unloaded a few so-so’s like Nate or Ish and Hinshaw and gotten the same deal, in all likelihood.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yeah
It’s a bad trade for Florida because they got terrible value, not because their good player went to a division rival.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
oh ok. i thought you were saying the reverse of that, and I was thinking you had it backwards.
if youre gonna trade with a division rival, you better damn well be getting equal value in return. and the Marlins got jypped.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
AND THE DAMN DRAFT PICKS
That’s what makes me angriest. Uggla is a lock for Type A.
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if you trade a Type A FA, do you still get the draft picks?
it would seem that since you got the players already in the trade, that you don’t get the picks too.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
No, the team who has him at the time he becomes an FA gets the picks.
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so if he leaves ATL after 2011, they get high comp picks too?
FUCK. and if say we signed Uggla, then we’d lose picks.
ATL ended up on the far, far high side of this deal. with 3+ months to go, FLA really should have taken their time and gotten the most for him
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
Trading a division rival is riskier though. If you do end up losing the trade, it hurts you more. If you end up winning the trade, it helps you more.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I'm okay with this
as long as Uggla doesn’t sign an extension.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
everyone’s laughing at the Marlins
what’s the contract situation though? I kinda sorta believe in Infante.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
and given the Ross business
they were never going to try with Uggla. They might be able to keep Infante.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
bingo
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BUT HE HIT .350 THAT ONE TIME
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He's an all star guys!
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if we got uggla who would play SS
and what would we do with freddy
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uhhh
no thanks. A light-hitting 3B who’s never played there before?
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What?
Either you’re wrong that Dan Uggla is light-hitting, or you’re wrong that Freddy has never played 3B.
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oh
didn’t know freddy played 3B before. But still, I think playing him there would not be an effective use of resources
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SS would still be a problem
But I envisioned Uggla playing either 3B with Pablo at first or just having Uggla play 1B with Huff in left.
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I suppose I could live with that..
CLANK CLANK wouldn’t be AS bad at 1B
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If the marlins make that trade
Maybe we can get Hanley for Pablo….
I'd be there in a heartbeat
I would even throw in…. someone significant
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I think Pablo is pretty significant
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
I meant, additionally
Though not anyone TOO significant
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Pablo IS too significant
He needs to become less signifi…
never mind. Bad joke is bad.
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"Hi, we're the Florida Marlins."
“We’re having a fire sale, and giving away one of our best remaining players for pennies on the dollar. We’d be happy to trade within our division. Oh, did we tell our fans we have a new stadium coming in 2012? Sign up for your personal seat licenses now before they’re still available in a year and a half!”
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by Kitspool on Nov 16, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
ugh
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But hey
they signed John Buck!
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Overpaid for him
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It’s apparently also a done deal that they signed John Buck for 3/18. Guess they wanted to clear that Uggla salary quicklike!
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Hellllllo, 10:1 strikeout-to-walk ratio! How you doin’?
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I like Drunk Offseason Grant posting multiple comments in his own thread.
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Oh, god, I would kill everyone in this thread if I could just have one drink at work.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Did you hear that, McCoven?!?
We can finally use the ceremonial daggers included in the McC Premium subscription!!
Time to lay out my death robe!
/suddenly glad I live on the opposite side of the country.
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Mmmm, self-employment. Maybe I should finish off that Woodford Reserve I have somewhere around here…
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I just had a drink at work!
Beer tastes better that way. Especially Anderson Valley’s Oatmeal Stout! Yeay my company!
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It's not like he's only had 1 good year and was non tendered by the Royals 2 years ago
Oh wait
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?!?!?!!?!!?!?!
WHAT THE HELL?? I thought the Marlins were supposed to be smart?!
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The sarcastic capps thing didn’t get to the word “smart.” I’m confused.
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Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
sounds like an available backup catcher
with BAY AREA TIES.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
And a MONEYBALL pedigree!
Because everyone cares.
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That would be great
Except Baker underwent Tommy John in September, so he may not be doing much in 2011. Plus he’s cheap, so the Marlins will probably keep him around. Too bad … the year before he got called up he actually worked with my kid’s Pony League (!) team during its spring training. Not sure how many Triple-A players would do that. He seemed like a pretty cool person.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.
Huh?
You want them to be like the Marlin’s front office?
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
I wanted Dan Uggla at that price.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 16, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
This is like us offering DeRosa and Hinshaw.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
WHY DIDN'T WE?
GIANTS BRASS!!!!!!
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except not at all
because infante just came off a great season. Unsustainable probably, but he wasn’t sitting out injured all year.
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No, just the postseason!
Bwa-ha-ha!
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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Torres seems like an odd comp
He’s provided more WAR in the past 2 years than Infante has in his career
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Fontenot and Runzler maybe...
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
There are obviously extenuating circumstances
But Mike Fontenot’s career: .270/.337/.411
Omar Infante’s career: .274/.319/.395
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This deal is not completely insane from the Marlins' perspective... if they're really concerned about money
1 year and 4-4.5 WAR of Uggla at probably $9m or $10m
for
1 year and 2-2.5 WAR of Infante for $2.5m
3-4 years of Dunn for cheap (probably a .5-1.0 WAR reliever if he gets 60+ innings)
However, since they’re apparently using the savings on John Buck, this is a pretty bad trade.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
yeah
I was gonna say, they just gave buck 6 million. So they better not claim money.
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that was kinda what i was thinking. The trade isn’t awful, except when paired with the signing.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I would say that they were trying to get rid of their last year of Uggla in exchange for longer-term players, but then I realized that Infante is only around for the one year.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
this is the kind of trade I would have made in a dynasty league
because I don’t know shit about baseball. Hilarious that an actual front office did that.
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This is just wrong
Infante has been an above-average hitter for the better part of 3 seasons and is averagish defensively. I don’t see any reason why he would not likely accumulate 2-2.5 WAR if you gave him 600+ plate appearances to do so.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
You don't see any reason?
How about a .355 BABIP, a full 40 points above his career average?
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and well
that 2-2.5 WAR would be one of Uggla’s worst seasons.
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that it's a bad trade
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This deal is not completely insane from the Marlins’ perspective… if they’re really concerned about money
1 year and 4-4.5 WAR of Uggla at probably $9m or $10m
for
1 year and 2-2.5 WAR of Infante for $2.5m
3-4 years of Dunn for cheap (probably a .5-1.0 WAR reliever if he gets 60+ innings)
However, since they’re apparently using the savings on John Buck, this is a pretty bad trade.
Aaron King is still my homeboy… iffy mechanics and all
by baetown415 on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
that even if they weren't using the savings on Buck it'd be a bad trade?
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This deal is not completely insane from the Marlins’ perspective… if they’re really concerned about money
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
His 2008 and 2009 BABIP's were .327 and .339
Dude accumulated over 2.5 WAR in 500ish PA’s this season. If Infante goes back to 2008 and 2009 form and is only a couple runs above average offensively and is still around average defensively and gets over 600 PA, how is it unreasonable to peg him for 2-2.5 WAR?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I don’t think Dunn is that good. Have you seen his minor league walk numbers, never mind his major league ones? ERA and Ks – over 23 career innings – hide a lot of suck.
by sarf_london_niner on Nov 17, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
he's basically Casilla
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I’d rather sign Huff and keep the prospects. I love Uggla’s bat but he just isn’t a good fit until 2B is free. Next year it would have been nice to sign him as a free agent.
I am a pretty big fan of Sanchy though so if he can replicate 2010 next I’d be fine keeping him around for another year or two.
by VizquelQuest on Nov 16, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
2010 Sanchy is a nice consolation prize
He sure turned it on down the stretch
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Dan Uggla, Big Errors on national tv
but still far fewer than Brooks Conrad. I still wince/rejoice when I think of Conrad.
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I really feel sorry for that guy
And I know I shouldn’t, but I do.
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I'm there with ya
Would prefer to win without someone else screwing up.
Of the three teams we beat in the post-season, the Braves had the most legitimate excuses.
The thong is, it happened.
Erra!
God, how the fuck was this all just weeks ago?
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I'm wearing a hat that says the Giants won the world series
so nope! WOOOO
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Also
I hate the Marlins
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well im happier that he got traded to ATL for a year than getting locked up in a long term deal with FLA. He’ll be a FA at the end of 2011 when Freddys contract is up, if SF decides to go that route.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Braves are expected to sign Uggla to a long-term extension.
The Uggla ship has officially sailed for the Giants and I can’t say I’m all that bummed out.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 16, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
im not all that bummed either, considering Uggla’s defense is not very good at all.
It’s like a power hitting Brooks Conrad- Uggla made most errors by a 2B in NL this year.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a little bummed
but since Uggla can’t play anywhere other than 2nd…it was not a good fit for the Giants…
yeah totally. if we had a hole at 2B, that’s one thing, but we’re already set up perfectly there with Freddy. Defense up the middle is very important to back up the pitching.
Obtaining Uggla would NOT have made this whole “where does everyone play” thing any simpler. Not to mention his shoddy defense.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
So...
Does this mean we’re in line to get Hanley?
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by Smotheredinhugs on Nov 16, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
we can afford to trade defense for offense at one of our open positions this year, however, SS is not it.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
wut
Hanley is arguably the best SS in baseball
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I was trying to debate this point because I don't believe in his defense
but I got stuck after Troy Tulowitzchinichtlichki
I mean, Jimmy Rollins? Jose Reyes? Man how the mighty has fallen at the SS position.
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Yeah Tulo
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by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Dammit
Tulo’s probably better.
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True-it's a close call
They’re clearly the top 2 SS’s in baseball
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wrong
derek jeter
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he's 1-5 all by himself.
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Dude wins gold gloves
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Yeah, I’d list him above Hanley right now. Still, Hanley’s pretty damn good.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah they're neck and neck
Tulo’s arm + D give him the slight edge for me
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ive read alot of people saying that the Marlins IF defense sucked, and Sanchez was the only one with an almost average defensive line. I’m inclined to believe the stats too.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Only true evil has one t in Matt.
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I think true evil is a little overgenerous. More like true petulance.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
even so, thats still a liability for the most important IF position (other than catcher).
pitching and defense win championships. i dont think trading offense for defense at the SS position is a good idea.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
It's a question of degree
A minus defender with a solid bat is probably not a good idea. An absolute butcher with a very good bat is arguable. A minus defender who’s been one of the best hitters in baseball for several seasons, and steals bases as well, is worth the tradeoff.
We’d probably need a superior 3B to compensate, but Hanley Ramirez is the kind of player worth rearranging your lineup around. And that’s why we’ll never get him. :(
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Just so we’re clear, are you actually saying you wouldn’t want Hanley? You wouldn’t start him if you got him for free?
Hell, move him to the OF if the defense is that bad – he’d be the best OF in the majors.
i’d start him if we got him for free, hell yeah. but at the cost he would come at, no, i wouldnt want him.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
no, he’s great. I was making my argument based on the assumption that we’d pay out the nose in a trade, therefore, not worth it
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Ramirez LF
Posey C
Huff 1B
Ross RF
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
And if Belt wasn’t part of the package to get Ramirez, bat him 6th at 1B, move Huff to left, and Hanley to RF.
These hairy palms are making it hard to type, so I’ll stop here.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
THAT'S A REAL LINEUP!
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i would trade anyone short of buster, timmy and matt for hanley. (coincidentally, those are probably the only people that a sane GM would even look at in a ramirez trade.)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I love Cain (and MadBum)
but I’d move them for Hanley
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I feel like out of all SF’s starting pitchers, Cain is the one most likely to be a lifer. He and his wife reportedly love the City, and he’s been with the team long enough for sentiment to set in when contract negotiations come around.
MadBum is tough but yeah, I’d move him for Hanley in a 1-1 trade.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
It’d probably take Bumgarner, Runzler and Romo — to start. And then maybe Adrianza or Crawford or Neal.
Here was the Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers trade:
The Florida Marlins and Detroit Tigers have agreed in principle on a trade that will send Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to Detroit for key prospects, sources told ESPN’s Peter Gammons on Tuesday.
The Tigers would send outfielder Cameron Maybin, pitcher Andrew Miller, catcher Mike Rabelo and minor league pitchers Eulogio De La Cruz, Dallas Trahern and Burke Badenhop to the Marlins.
I didn’t realize Hanley was under control through 2015. Yeesh. Safe to say, this is pure rosterfapping here.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Man, that was a steal in retrospect, wasn’t it? I’m assuming all the names I don’t recognize aren’t very good.
outright train robbery.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently if Lincecum was gone we would've taken Miller's teammate
Daniel Bard
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yeah
but at the time wasn’t maybin thought of as like a top 5 prospect?
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Yeah, he was going to be like Justin Upton and Andrew McCutchen
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As I said, in retrospect. I don’t remember anyone having a problem with the trade at the time (though, looking at the numbers, Maybin had serious holes in his game – he was striking out almost 30% of the time in the low minors, and never showed too much power).
All I hope for is Timmeh, Cain and Posey to be SF lifers.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I might have been on the fence
But after Game 4, personally, i don’t want to trade MadBum for anyone outside of players who would already be untouchable.
Dude is going to be the face of the franchise along with Posey.
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One’s a Yankee. Never head of the other one.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
FFFFFFUUUUUU
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Cain strikes me as more the type of player the Yankees would go after than Lincecum.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
well i don’t plan on losing them. im hatching plans to keep them in SF. details to come later
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
but I’m basing this on the idea that the Yankees of 2010 are exactly like Mr. Burns softball team.
“I told you to trim those sideburns!”
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 17, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
I welcome
Halloween MadBum to next year’s rotation. Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt my sweet petootie.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I hope Cain stays forever
He’s my favorite player on the team
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well, he and his wife bought a house in Noe Valley, looking at private schools, kid on the way… doesn’t sound like a guy who wants to pack up in 2 years
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course, that means nothing to Brian Sabean.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
no, it probably doesn’t, but hopefully it means something to Matt
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
If he’s traded, he won’t have a say. It’ll only come into play during a contract, contract extension, or free agency negotiation.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
no way Cain ever gets traded. Here you got a very, very good starting pitcher saying “i want to play here for a long time”.
He is so, so valuable. He’s the rock of the rotation, throws 200+ IP every year.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
besides, he’s up for contract after 2012- there will be a no-trade clause, and he will sign for maybe $13-15mil a year. His arb years are being bought out for $13mil right now, but that’s 2 years from now. I think a deal is hammered out next offseason so he never hits FA.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
I want to see Matt shagging flyballs in the OF during BP in 20 years.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
I would not be shocked if he was still pitching at 46
I mean obviously all pitchers have serious risk, but he’s strong and it seems like he throws a lot of fastballs
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Yeah, but what will his xFIP be at 46?
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Higher than his ERA
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by Gobroks on Nov 16, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
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I would trade for Hanley’s offense. His defense was atrocious last year, but I doubt it will be that bad again. And still a 4.4 fWAR player even with a -10 UZR.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
wait
was this a joke
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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After reading the rest of the thread, saying you wouldn’t want to trade for Hanley because what you’d have to give up to get him would be too great seems like a fair thing to say.
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by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
LOL Marlins
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LOL WUT?
So we could have had him for Runzler and another spare part?
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Is it possible to get info on Pablo?
during his training and weight loss regimin down in San Diego? That’s the whole question—does Pablo respond to that?
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Giants are keeping a lid on that info after Operation Panda failed last year due to too much media hype. That’s what the team says. Me, I think he just didnt take it seriously last year
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
No more ceremonial puck-drops at Sharks games during the offseason this time around?
(The black jersey was not exactly slimming is what I remember thinking at the time.)
that’d be tough to do from San Diego. Pablo isn’t exactly a low-mass teleporter experiment
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think you need to re-up your confidence in Pablo
He will be the starting 3rd baseman, but he needs to be monitored by the Giants this offseason.
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Oh, I agree. But I don’t think the Giants are counting on him.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care about them.
I only come here for you, Grant.
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There’s no logical or emotional reason to count on him. His conditioning has created nothing but uncertainty. The only way this works in the Giants favor is if they do a weekly weigh-in a la “The Biggest Loser.”
I feel like his conditioning has created nothing but the illusion of uncertainty. His hitting in 2010 has created nothing but uncertainty. It’s never been clear that the two are directly related, and there are a multitude of speculative reasons other than weight to account for the dropoff. I still don’t think he looked any bigger this year than he did last year.
That said: it never hurts to get in shape. I’ve just never been comfortable with the “FAT BLOB SUCKS BECAUSE HE’S NOT IN SHAPE” mere months after “HE’S JUST A BIG GUY WHO CAN REALLY HIT YOU EVER HEARD OF PRINCE FIELDER?”
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
His age really helps him deal with the weight, but as he gets older his back and his knees won’t be able to “refresh” the same. Even Prince Fielder went on a diet, recognizing the need to cut some pounds. Pablo also had personal problems to deal with this year, so I’m not going to say it was just the weight that was the issue, but like you said, it never hurts to get in shape. And, in fairness to Pablo, who I like as a player, I would rather point to conditioning as a problem before lambasting him for his oftentimes questionable approach at the plate.
The weight will be a problem long-term, certainly, and it’s something that he will ideally deal with. I’m just not comfortable with what seems to be a very popular opinion that his weight is what made him hit worse. You don’t seem to be jumping to that conclusion specifically, so maybe my comment here has been ill-aimed.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I liken the situation to this Simpsons exchange:
HOMER: (sobbing) I’m a bad father!
SELMA: You’re also fat.
HOMER: I’m also fat!
Its not just his hitting...
Its his defense. And I don’t want to see him moved to 1B just because he can’t play 3rd. Do NOT block Belt please…
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Yeah, I totally agree. There’s plenty of fat slobs who can hit great, from Fielders to Gwynn. Reminds me of the classic John Kruk line, when told a professional athlete should take better care of himself: “Lady I ain’t an athlete, I’m a baseball player.”
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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I remember Dante Bichette came into camp one year all out of shape and was struggling to run the mile in under 10 minutes (or some relatively slow time). Reporters were asking him about his conditioning and he responded “when the Kenyans start winning the world series I’ll start running to get in shape”
Of course I don’t think he lasted much longer after that.
WWRWD?
Counter-point
I still don’t think he looked any bigger this year than he did last year.
I think he looked bigger. I’m guessing up 25 pounds from last year. You could see it in his running. Even though he was big last year, he was pretty light on feet and looked like a fullback running around the bases. He actually looked athletic.
This year, he just looked like an overweight guy running the bases. His stride looked shorter and choppier.
The thong is, it happened.
The other day on MLB Network they had one of Comcast’s “Inside the Clubhouse” shows from last spring which was all about Operation Panda, and the thing that struck me visibly was how thin Sandoval looked at that point in the year compared to in post-season.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I agree with the non-scientific observation
and with the above conclusion that fat guys can still hit. Maybe Velez should play 3B.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Gaining 25 pounds in one year sounds very hard to do at his age. Though, I guess it might not be just this year – I remember that it looked to me like he was getting bigger during last seasons too.
Come on. Everybody’s heard of the Freshman 25!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
/remembers first semester freshman year
/has a sad
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Google has a “Google 20” as well. Their free cafeterias are pretty dope.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I actually lost weight when I joined Google, because I eat less fast food.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Also, the hive mind is calorie intensive.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
I’m still on-board Team Pablo. He’s been too good just one year ago to give up on him. I’d pencil him in as the starting third baseman right now. I don’t think he’s as good as he was in 2009, but I think he could be a 3+ WAR player again.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
me too. Yeah there was alot of hype around him after his 2009 campaign, but he was still league-average in 2010. And he was going thru a divorce. And he appeared to put on wieght. And he’s a free swinger, prone to bad years.
I personally think this whole thing is overblown. I’d still be happy with an average-above average 3B with potential huge upside.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Oh jeez, you two aren’t the same person?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
lol everyone seems to think I’m someone else who had a similar username.
i wonder if i can change my username. it wasn’t very original to begin with
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
People I used to think are the same person
giantsfansince1981/giant4life83
SFGuy/SF Pete
sayitcrash/say hey nation
Johnny Disaster/JohnnyDangerously
grant/hokysmokes
owlcroft/gallo del cielo (seriously; yes I’m stupid)
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’m actually Natto
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
ew
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
I have confused you azns before.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Next, let’s discuss who we thought were girls.
heimy. (turns out he’s a hot strapping celeb in Japan)
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howie
I don’t know why he can’t be bothered to post a picture of himself as proof.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
This.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Wait more than one person did this???????
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!?!?!?!?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
JCXXXXXX
It’s all the same.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
pretty much
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Guilty
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 16, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Can of Corn / Cornball
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yes
And therefore, “people you thought were girls” = cornball
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Hairball and Cornball
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Follow me: Twitter.com/gobroks
that sounds like
a very terrible morning radio show. (just the names, not the individuals)
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 6:30 AM PST up reply actions
MHizzle/MDizzle(x)
where x = number
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I thought X was the x-factor o.o
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
So you’re the one who dressed up as Wolverine, grabbed a Giants flag and wore it as a cape, and roared from the corner of the Public Library during the rally?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Uh… I would like to exercise my Fifth Amendment right to silence…also my lawyer tells me to say “No Comment”
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"Hi, I'm Steve Moskowitz."
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
ME TOO! OMG!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wasn’t he at a meet-up or something?
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
I walked past him and I ALMOST asked for his and Mistress Moskowitz’s autographs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was too awed by his aura to even consider speaking.
Also, LOL Mistress Moskowitz.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
his website is so bad
omg
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Holy shit
It’s half wasted space, and half wall of text.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
frames!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Clearly, some web developers arrived in a time machine from ten years ago and Steve took pity on them and gave them work.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Twenty!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
lol mistress moskowitz
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
So close. So very far.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Just once I want him to break into song during his commercials
There are NO CATS IN AMERICA!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Wait a minute,
I need to add some random number to my account name?
Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.
Don't you run away from me when I'm talking to you
/chases after MHizzle
GET BACK HERE PUNK!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
/puts straight jacket on MHizzle
Now stop making us both look crazy XD
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
This was surreal.
Not as surreal as MadBum talking to Mad Bum, but surreal.
Now I suppose we need to shut down the Fruitvale BART station.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 17, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
Bondslegend/Pika
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I often recognize avatars more than names. Other than names I distinctly remember, if someone changes their avatar they’re basically a new person to me.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
There are a few people I get mixed up because their avatars are compositionally sort of similar: can of corn, owlcroft, and someone else I can’t remember at the moment.
well, that, and i don’t know how to make one. but since it’s cool to not have one, im not gonna bother now.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
No avatars, no sigs. Online asceticism.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
That works. Have to practice spelling “ascetic” whenever I can though or else I’ll end up mixing it up with “aesthetic”.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
a thing of beauty
not littered with dirty avatars
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Your minimalism has gone just a little too far for my liking.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
What’s that you were saying?
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
The Fire Nation?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
but i believe Aang can save the world
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I still think they were setting up Zuko + Katara, but chickened out.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
It was obvious it was going to go Aang/Katara from the first episode.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I guess … (begins shipwar)
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
What is it about Avatar shippers?
I seem to hear more about those shipwars than all others combined.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Avatar shipwars
are nothing compared to the old Harry Potter shipwars
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I never get why people say that Aang is too young for Katara. He’s like two years younger than her. And then they’re always like “oh but she’s so much more mature than him!” and in some ways, yes, but she’s extremely immature in a lot of other ways.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
actually…he’s like 98 years older than her. 100 years frozen in an iceberg kinda does that
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Yeah, but biologically and mentally, he’s 12.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I personally think he’s a bit more mature than people give him credit for. He’s fairly childish at times, but when he has to do something…he has a pretty damn scary game face. I mean one doesn’t grow up being known as the Avatar of the four elements without learning to be more mature.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Right before the invasion during the eclipse he looked damn fierce.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry that came off as kind of flippant
There are just some pretty hardcore ~Zutara shippers on the internet and their existence means I mostly eyeroll at most mentions of Zuko/Katara. (see also: Harry/Hermione fans.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
ZOMG DID U HERE BOUT THE KISS
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
the one that was basically JKR trolling H/Hr fans?
By having Harry be like, “Hey Ron, you know she’s basically just like my sister right bro”?
can’t wait.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
That seems to imply that they kiss there, but from what I’ve heard, they just dance really awkwardly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Damn Geoff Boucher
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.dailyfill.com/Daniel-Radcliffe-Emma-Watson-Kisses-Like-An-Animal-76558/
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOOK ZUKO
IT’S YOUR HONOR
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I was thinking of people who were here when we moved to McC 2.0. I remember for a while your avatar was a weird drawing of a guy who looked like Obama.
That was the generic avatar that everyone got until they set one up, but I guess they dumped that guy.
You mean Obama?
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
You are like an adorable goldfish.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
oldjacket/oldrips
And any two-word combo in which the first word is “Giant” always gives me trouble.
I don't even remember who I stole it from
I think it was a guy who got banned, and I vaguely remember that he was insulting owlcroft.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I just looked it up, stared at it, and burst into mad laughter.
It is, without a doubt, the funniest thing I have ever read here.
Oh my god thats funny
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
The day after that comment happened, I thought about it at work, cracked up at my desk, and had to explain to a friend between intermittent bouts of laughing.
I’m giggling a little right now.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
OMG that’s right, you and GiantTorture are different people! (Or so it appears…)
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
It took me a long time to differentiate you from GiantBrass. It happened, but it took a while.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah he is
IIRC is basically “why isn’t Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into years of mediocrity”.
No idea how/why I remember that
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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oops
with that sort of name I assume someone forgot a password and signed up again, or uses different logins on different computers or something.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
The night they talked to each other was eerie
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
by the way
in the picture in that thread, pablo looks much lighter. absolutely non-scientific impression.
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
If that happens to me, I’m E-mailing Grant personally to change my password. I’ve earned way too many E-points on this account to lose it, like 400 hours of grinding worth.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
I thought you were all sock puppets of Grant
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
I know that I am.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 16, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
groug and groud
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
also, jponry and jporny
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
My God (removes sunglasses),
you and SoFaKing Mike are separate entities!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Me three.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Still trying to figure out what "LB" means
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
also,
how dare you posit that my boy might lose his job. I ain’t havin it.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
It could mean “pound” in a hilarious allusion, or it could mean “linebacker” in a hilarious juxtaposition of sports. Either way, it’s hilarious!
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
You're so funny!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
I was thinking “Left Bench” which was amusing, but not in a LOLFAT sort of way.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I was thinking this as well
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I don’t need to have my laughing cow cheese now, because yes, I have laughed today!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
/scribbles in notepad: eliminate Laughing Cow material from routine.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was Left Base
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This is my fairly realistic rosterbation
start the season:
C Posey, 1B Huff, 2B Sanchez, SS Uribe, 3B Sandoval, LF DeRosa, CF Torres, RF Ross
(If Pablo cannot stay at third)
C Posey, 1B Sandoval, 2B Sanchez, SS Uribe, 3B DeRosa, LF Huff, CF Torres, RF Ross
(If Pablo struggles and Neal is doing great in AAA)
C Posey, 1B Huff, 2B Sanchez, SS Uribe, 3B DeRosa, LF Neal, CF Torres, RF Ross
(If Pablo struggles and Belt is doing great in AAA)
C Posey, 1B Belt, 2B Sanchez, SS Uribe, 3B DeRosa, LF Huff, CF Torres, RF Ross
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
by kvdp12 on Nov 16, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
What about scenario 4
PABLO BEASTS
BELT BEASTS
NEAL BEASTS
WHAT THEN?!?!
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
I SO ESSITED
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
What if it’s PABLO BREASTS?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Pablo’s breasts beast?
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Nov 16, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Mewbs
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
You just gave our fellow NL West patrons nightmares
by GrayDilla on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
... Dynasty.
You know you’ve fantasized about it.
Joan Collins and all.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
YOU'LL GO BLIND
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
/Choose Co. prepares lawsuit.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
I’ve definitely perfected my gangsta lean towards the Giants getting a bat from the free agent market (not including their own free agents). I think DeRosa and Sandoval both have to show the Giants something in ST and, therefore, should be considered as backup plans.
No. Belt has GG-level defense at 1B.
Quietly hoping Brandon Belt develops into John Olerud, circa 1993.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Nov 16, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
derek jeter, apparently, has GG-level defense at SS
that doesn’t mean shit.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
Yeah but he’s also pretty fast (I assume faster than Huff) so maybe he could be a lot better than Huff in the OF.
WWRWD?
The Belt in left field experiment...
…did not go so well. And is over.
And say…Snow type defense =D.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Says who?
And I don’t care how good he is at 1B – it’s nearly impossible that someone can be so good at 1B that they’re better off there than playing in left field – presuming that Belt can play an average LF, which I think he can.
1B defense is overrated.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
"1B defense is overrated."
No, it isn’t.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hmm
Depends who’s doing the ratings, I suppose. What I meant to say was that if a guy can hit, who cares about his defense – Adam Dunn had a 3.9 WAR at first base this year.
But, for example, the fangraphs positional adjustment for 1B is -12.5 runs. For left field, it’s -7.5.
Let’s assume for the sake of argument that Belt could be a league average defensive left fielder. In order to justify playing him at first, he’d have to be five runs above average at 1B, a tough task.
And even then, you’d have to consider how much easier it is to get a good hitter who plays at 1B than at LF. If Belt can be an average LF, I say we put him there.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But if the defensive difference between Belt at 1B and Belt in LF
is greater than 5 runs…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh wait you did
Why would we assume he’s a league average LF?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
For the sake of argument, I suppose
If he’s a shit left fielder, the point is moot.
But I want them to try him out there first, because his long term value could be much improved as an outfielder.
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I don’t really care if he plays LF or 1B, as long as he’s in the lineup soon. Wherever he fits. It’s not like the diff. between 1B and C
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
True
By positional adjustment, the difference between C and 1B is 25 runs.
Oh God, why, Molina, why
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
More like, “Why do the people who want to move Posey to 1B exist?”
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Yankee fans who arrogantly want to keep his legs fresh for his stint in the pinstripes?
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totally a gold glover
has the calm eyes
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what about the Herpes?
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Yes.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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Is Pablo Sandoval the starting third baseman? An extremely lukewarm “yes.” I mean, isn’t this the same team that had Dan Ortmeier penciled in as their starting first baseman in 2008?
They can publicly say 3B is Panda’s to lose, but they’d better have about three or four backup scenarios ready to roll on the first day of Spring Training.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I think Pablo should be the backup plan. Like, the emergency backup plan. That still leaves primary, auxiliary and emergency options to suss out.
Disagree, respectfully
I think that trying to find an upgrade over Panda is a misallocation of resources and a waste of time.
Play Pablo. Play him at 3b. Play him every day. Make him lose weight, too. But play him.
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so as the backup plan, with everything else in place, how would we know if Pablo is hitting again, if he isn’t playing? give him a month, two months, to see how he’s doing, then send him to the minors if it’s not working out.
Remember, he’s still league-average 3B with potential huge upside
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Send a scout to Fresno
And if Pablo doesn’t swing when the umpire throws the pitcher the ball and isn’t wearing an extra-fat sized uniform, you’ll know he deserves a look.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
I was exaggerating along the lines of Grant’s comment, “They also can’t afford to count on him, ignore all sorts of different roster permutations, and have him roll into town speaking Huttese.”
yeah see i dont know that we can afford to count on him, but at the same time, he can’t be overlooked. he’s still got huge potential upside
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
/Mark DeRosa waves "hi", immediately returns to 60-day DL
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
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by scout6 on Nov 16, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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Lulz.
Best endorsement ever.
"Do you smell that Kenny? That's hard news. Notice the lack of fornicating horses."
This could have been funny,
but you mixed up the countries that Panda’s come from.
BUT THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE, AMIRITE?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
That's insensitive.
All pandas do NOT look alike!
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Red Pandas are so awesome.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
My 6 grade project was about Red panda's
and for winter break I got to see some.
They are so precious
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 16, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Red Pandas = Fat Foxes
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by NuschlerFace on Nov 16, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
It's settled
Sandoval shall henceforth no longer be referred to as the Panda, but instead the Fat Fox.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Or my cat
He had Kung-Fu Red Panda added to his assortment of nicknames, such as Big Butt and Fat Butt.
Fat Foxes
I like their first alnum
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So how come Master Shifu contemptuously calls Po “panda” when he’s a (red) panda himself?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
HOLY SHIT I NEVER REALZIED THAT
deep self-hatred racial issues!!
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Possibly the cutest animal in the world
But that is a Panda like cheesecake is a cake.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Adorable little pies.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
They’re delicious? Aren’t they endangered? That seems illegal.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Not if they’re caught for scientific research.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 6:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
There Are Pandas In… sounds like the title of a children’s book.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Give me two weeks. One and a half if my booze holds out.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Are there any wild Pandas in Japan? I might be misremembering something I saw on Planet Earth.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
He was talking about PANDAS
Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal infections
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t it more an artful parody of the ignorant fan archetype? Note the way he demonstrates little care over who the player is, and the later, feigned confusion over topic, complete with incomplete grammar. Presumably unstated is the imbibing of several cheap alcoholic beverages and insulting someone’s “momma.”
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Back off dude.
I’ve been a Giants fan since the Fred Lewis days. I’ve been suffering for a good 3 years. I deserve this.
Ouch.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, Star Wars is like entrance exam nerd stuff. If you can’t hang with these references, maybe nerd-dom isn’t for you.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps you should direct DimaK to the in-depth Quidditch discussion in the other thread.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Quidditch is “sport” and it is also not Sci-Fi. But you are awesome for not knowing what Quidditch is. I would love to have some other memory stored there in my brain slots.
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Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
0 for 2
On another note, has anyone seen 127 Hours yet?? And contrary to popular belief, it has nothing to do with Bengie running a marathon
Are you all too young to know 43-man Squamish?
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You could always be a nerd-submissive instead.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Nerd-sub sounds fun, but it’s actually not worth it at all.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Because of the jocks dropping depth charges?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
That’s one reason.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
i'm working on it
watching star trek reruns at work to catch up
I don't understand you guys who are skeptical about Pablo
Look, I get that he had a disappointing season. But he still hit .268/.323/.409
Sure, that’s a significant downgrade over his last season. But it’s an .732 OPS. You guys realize how bad of hitters most 3Bs are, right?
Here’s a list of the production that teams got last year from their 3B.
Pablo’s .732 is right in the middle of that list.
So what do we have here? A guy who had a shit year and hit terribly by his standards and was still an average-hitting 3B. And a guy who we know has a much higher ceiling than that.
Of course he needs to lose weight and play better defense. But if his floor is average and his ceiling is superstar, why should be bench him? Why should be trade him? It’s silly to me.
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by GiantPain on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
This.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
+109
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by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Re-reading my post, I probably should have slipped in there that I’m bullish on Pablo, and I’d almost certainly start him.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
So you’re the one.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm in love with you right now
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Pablo
was the worst hitting qualifying 3b in the NL last year.
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by Viliphied on Nov 16, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
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I'm failing to see how in any way he was worse than headly
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park adjustment
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
also
How is it that it’s “the entire NL” when there’s only 11 3B there?
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"qualifying"
need to reach a PA threshold, which looks to be 500 PA
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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wOBA and wRC+ disagree more than I would have thought.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone was the worst hitting qualifying 3B last year if you set the qualifications right.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
what?
qualifications are based on playing time
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I’m just saying it’s an arbitrary bar. You could set the bar at 100 PA or 350 PA and you’ll find worse hitters than Sandoval.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
well, right
but usually guys with under ~500 PA in a full season either weren’t starters to begin the year, or got injures
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Pffffffffffft...
Facts are meaningless – you could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!
Viliphied used a pretty standard cut-off line. I still think Pablo should be the Giants starting third baseman come opening day, but it’s a valid response.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Well, which cutoff would you prefer?
If we put it at 450, he’s still 11th out of 11. Put it at 400, he’s 12th of 15. At 350 (or 300) he’s 16th of 19. There’s no way to make him look OK. This doesn’t include defense, by the way, which in his case is below average, in my opinion.
He should be the starting 3B next year, but he really was bad this year.
I'd rather compare him to position-average production
Rather than individual third basemen. Pablo was below average when you compare him to those qualifying 3Bs, yes, but not every team HAD a qualifying 3b, and Pablo was just about average when compared to the production from that position all year.
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well you see that's just the thing
a full time starter SHOULD be better than average production, because he’s not going to play 162 games.
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ok
so every single player starting every day in MLB should be above average. Good to know.
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above average compared to what?
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You're saying pablo should be above average "just because he's an everyday player"
I don’t really buy that.
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think of it this way
say an average starter has a rating of 100.
say an average backup has a rating of 80.
say a backup takes 10% of a starter’s PA.
League average production would then be .9*100 + .1*80 = 98, so a player with a rating of 98, wile being league average for the position, would be a below average starter.
These are numbers I pulled out of my ass to make the math simple, but the principle is the same.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Th most popular major is ‘pulling things out of jcb’s ass’, right?
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
That and RAGE
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by EliminateMe on Nov 17, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
but that goes against the narrative that he sucks
so it can’t be true.
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for the record
I don’t think he sucks, I think he had a down year and will bounce back
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ok
but even in a “down year” he was average for a 3B.
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Average hitting + bad defense = below average player
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
It’s the D that suffers with the morbid obesity.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
which is funny
because, by UZR and DRS he was average/very slightly above
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I think if he’s in good shape he has the potential to be a damn good 3rd baseman.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
I was talking about last year
but still, even over his career, he’s average/very slightly below
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
That’s a real season, by the way, not the weird “seasons” used in UZR/150. Those seem to assume that the average player is the lovechild of Cal Ripken and Ichiro.
um
that’s 2+ years, so, slightly under 3 a year, which is slightly below average
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oh, per year
/can read
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
but also
his TZL is at -1.5/year
so yeah, I’m gonna stick with avg/slightly below.
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well, not zero
but close. I guarantee you if he put up a 120 wRC+ this year (matching his career, including this season), the talk about his weight would be muted
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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Whose talk? I can assure you that even if he hits 100 home runs next year, I’m not going to stop thinking he’s below average at 3B.
in what world would that be true?
unless you’re just talking about defense, in which case, well, if you get that kind of offensive production, it doesn’t matter.
He needs to be an absolute butcher (-15 runs) for the switch to 1B to be worth it from a value standpoint.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Now I just have no idea what you’re talking about. Who said anything about a switch to 1B?
And of course we’re just talking about defense, that’s the only thing we’ve been talking about. You seem to be suggesting that people only think he’s not a good defensive 3B is that he hasn’t hit well this year. I’m saying that’s not true, at least in my case.
that's not what I said at all
I said people wouldn’t be talking about his weight if he hit well this year.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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You said it in response to my question – “Just so we’re clear, do you put 0 value in how he looks?”.
He thought you were talking about physical attractiveness
by kingofthacove on Nov 16, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
I thought he was talking about LOLFAT
but if you’re just talking about how he looks on D in general, no he doesn’t look that bad, and the stats seem to back that up.
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I'd estimate his true talent is probably -5<0
With the potential to decline rapidly
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Wrecked
I guess people just think that Pablo is the only player ever to have a bad year. His upside is obvious and unmatched by any 3B in our system or available, except maybe Beltre.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Further
To say he had a bad year is actually a bit disingenuous. It certainly didn’t live up to the (likely unfair) standard he set in 2009, but he was still a league average player.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
I agree with your sentiment. In fact, I would subscribe to your newsletter, so long as it was free and did not include too many annoying ads.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
i was saying this upthread as well.
Pablo has potentially huge upside, but is still a league-average 3B. and on a team that is finally reaching a league-average offense, that actually makes him a plus
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Someone still believes in the Panda.
I really hope he doesn’t have another shit year.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Nov 16, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Is it completely out of the question to have Pablo be the backup catcher as well?
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no need to throw more on his plate than he can eat. wait, that metaphor is actually self-conflicting
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
It probably is
But I don’t think it should be
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I think
if he posts another similar offensive year it’s worth exploring. I think he should work out some over the winter/spring on the theory that he was in better shape when he played C. Correlation = causation after all, and it’s not like anything else they’ve tried has worked.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think the first question of the offseason
Should be: “How much money does Brian Sabean have to spend this off-season?”
That’s my first question anyway, because I don’t have a firm grasp on the figure.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
they said theyre looking at a $110mil payroll.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Good, Sabes
JeffFletcherAOL Jeff Fletcher
#sfgiants GM Brian Sabean said the team is involved daily in talks with Huff and Uribe, and those two are their focus for now.
And pick up Burrell while you’re at it.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 16, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Sabean picked this week to start Huff n' Uu
by Every6thDay on Nov 16, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
IIRC Huff signed with Pat’s agent, so i would imagine if one comes back, so will the other
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
that is, if Huff comes back, so does Pat.
Uribe, don’t know who reps him or what he wants.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Is it odd that i want Uribe back
more than i want the other two back? I want Uribe to end his career here. I want him to go like 8 more years or something.
i agree. he fills the true hole that we would have if he isn’t resigned.
Sandoval, Belt could fill 1B. but SS, with the FA market so thin, Uribe is essential
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
anyone else
will or might be cheaper but definitely won’t be as good. Plus he’s an awesome 3B so maybe they can scrounge up a mediocre SS if Pablo really does struggle.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
what a progression for Uribe
from minor-league deal two years ago to 3/yr utility guy to probably the top free-agent shortstop in baseball. I think he’s gonna get offered more money from another team out there, and I wouldn’t count on him coming back.
/suddenly lot of sad
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
Sabean and Co are in daily talks with Huff and Uribe, saying they are proceeding with “cautious optomism”.
That pretty much means they are talking muti-year deals.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
I was getting kind of verklempt over the weekend
at the thought of a Giants team w/o Uribe. I don’t know why.
He brings so much lulz.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I somehow missed that butt-shaking dance gif with him and Bochy
I wish I had seen it when it happened.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
He’s got a lot of happy, and it shows.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Truly a bless.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
He’s just so jazzy.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Philosoraptor? lol.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
well, im okay with it so long as he doesnt hunt me. wait, what am i saying?
JUAN, HUNT ME!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
One would think that being paid lots of money to play a game for a living would be motivation enough for athletes to keep in shape and/or make the right choices; however, as you may remember Mr. Merope is a Bengals fan, so I know that this is not always the case. Perhaps the Giants need to go after a big name 3rd baseman …the way they “went after” Sabathia awhile ago, just to put the fear of being sent down to AAA, being cut, or returning to mere mortal status into Mr. Panda man.
I went to an international figure skating competition over the weekend, and it made me think about Pablo a lot. Those kids (many of whom are younger or even much younger than he is) have so much discipline regarding their physical conditioning and weight. Seriously, I’m twice as big as most of the male skaters and I’m an average sized female. I mean, I’m sure they burn a lot more calories than a baseball player does, but still. Made me think.
That being said, he faced very little in the way of consequences for his size last season, so maybe he needs a little extra “persuasion” to stay in shape.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
I would guess that most of those skaters also have smaller frames than pablo...
but maybe not. IDK.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
He doesn’t seem that big to me, though. I’ve seen him up close more than once, and he’s not some 6’5" line backer type, you know? He seems relatively average sized. Not that I expect him to ever be as thin or in shape as a figure skater.
Also, the skaters don’t stay that way through genetics alone. They work hard and most of the ladies are on perpetual diets.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
He’s big boned.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
you don't need to be tall to have a wide frame though
I’m a good 3 inches taller than my roommate, but his frame is MUCH wider than mine. I’m slightly heavy for my frame now, and if he weighed as much as I do, he’d be in great shape.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
The Pablo thing really conflicts me. I have a weight issue due to a craptacular thyroid – I find it just about impossible to lose weight, so I think, well maybe he’s got some biological/hormone/chemical problem, and I feel great compassion and empathy for him.
Thirty seconds later my mind is screaming “BUT HE’S A DAMN PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE!! HIS JOB IS TO BE IN SHAPE!!”
Woe is me.
Well...
to be fair, his job is to hit and catch a baseball. We can’t say for certain that his weight is hurting his ability to do that, even if our eyes and experience tell us, “OH FUCK YES IT GETS IN THE WAY OF DOING SHIT.”
Can you say 'eating disorder'?
Or is that just an ugly stereotype?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
It is not at all an ugly stereotype. Jenny Kirk, a former skater who had an eating disorder and has written about and been interviewed about the subject, says that she extimates 85% of skaters have dealt with or are dealing with eating disorders at any one time.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
Reading this made me think of Pablo
Maybe he ate one of those jr. figure skaters? IDK, totally possible though.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Comedy Gold.....
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for !Matt Downs .
The guy did put up a .943 OPS over a full season in the majors before he had ever lifted a weight. I’m not sure it will be easy to convince him that his conditioning is the problem.
WWRWD?
in shape Pablo
probably has a quicker swing, the game slows down and he is able to increase his defense range. People who play sports for a living should be in shape even if they dont have to be. I could steer my car with my feet.. but that doesnt make it a good idea.
being a fatass is definitely not helping his performance and will most likely shorten his career if it’s not addressed. My point was it’s hard to convince these guys to change their ways when they’ve experienced so much success doing it their own way.
WWRWD?
I don’t get it.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 16, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
I should have read this before posting the same thing…
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
He got into the Major Leagues and had a huge rookie year while being fat. It’s not necessarily that simple to get someone to internalize the fitness bug when they have already had more athletic success than virtually everyone you’ve ever met.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Hack Wilson was built like Pablo, and I remember that . . . wait a minute. I’m not that old.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 16, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
It’s worth reminding everyone that Pablo’s salary this past season was $465,000, and he’s not arbitration eligible until after the 2011 season. Not that half a million bucks is anything to sneeze at, but he has tremendous financial motivation to return to his 2009 form.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
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Do Want. I’m just going to go ahead and disregard the “Frisco’s First” thing.
by kezargiants on Nov 16, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Luckily you don’t need to drink it to keep the bottle.
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
But..."Frisco"
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Seriously…you wouldn’t call Budweiser “Bud” would you?
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Beer makes you smart
Hey, it made Bud wiser.
Anagram of "SF Giants World Series Champs" = SHARP, ORGASMIC, ENDLESS SWIFT
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Nov 16, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
It might be worth buying a pack as a collector’s item. Maybe Budweiser secretly improves after 50 years. I’d be like, “Oh yeah, that was the 2010 brewage.” (It can’t be vintage, see, ‘cause it’s beer) Then all my snotty friends would be all impressed, because you don’t keep something like that for 50 years unless it’s REALLY valuable.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I got a can of Billy Beer if anyone would like to make an offer…
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I think we have a box of Krusty-O’s on the top shelf of a kitchen cabinet, not sure though. Since I’m barely over 5 feet tall, we could have a lot of things on the top shelves of our kitchen cabinets that I don’t know about.
Spiders breed in high places, right?
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
I feel a strange urge to buy a ton of these.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t want to go all the way to Texas to get them, though.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve had a strange urge to buy anything that says “SF” and “World Series Champions”. Then I go back to my house and realize nothing matches.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Then re-do your house man!!! Sheeesh
Our living room has 3 walls. On wall 1 we’ve got a huge Giants throw/wall hanging and a Bengals one with a Timmy poster in between the two. ( Luck for us our teams colors are the exact same.) Wall 2 has the fireplace with a Fear the Beard sign between the mantel and a Yosemite panorama. Wall 3 features a “Beat Texas” sign and Natto’s Giants.
they have these at all the on-campus bars/restaurants here
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That reminds me, I have a special 7/11 edition of a Coca-Cola bottle featuring the 1989 World Champion 49ers. I wonder how it would taste if I cracked it open.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Which I just realized is older than I am.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, grow up.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Nov 16, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
FINALLY!
I’ve been waiting for a reason for so long!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
It's Tuesday Night
isn’t that reason enough?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Ha
keithlaw keithlaw
“Marlins acquire All-Star for Dan Uggla” #accuratebutmisleadingheadlines
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
how about…
“Marlins get screwed because they are stupid.”
if its about money, thats fine, except its not, because they gave some random catcher $6 mil
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
SFGiants San Francisco Giants
Nov 16th is Buster Posey Day in SF! NL Rookie of the Year! #sfgiants
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I'm gonna miss Gavin Newsom being mayor
only because he’s a big giants fan. hopefully the new mayor likes baseball too.
Is he really? I thought that that was just something he said during the parade.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
is he really what?
A Big Giants fan?
Yeah i think he is. I mean i don’t think he’s at the McC or season ticket holder level of fandom, but i’m pretty sure he’s at that Rob Schneider level of fandom.
And he played baseball in college so he’s knowledgeable about the game.
Did not know that. Cool.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
he went to redwood highschool in marin county
they were the redwood giants. i would think he is a giants fan
Haters Gonna Hate
San Francisco Giants Day and Buster Posey Day better be on next year’s calendar.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 16, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
OT: oooooooh
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CejcKBFWo/TOIxh4IE1HI/AAAAAAAAJ8c/gJpBhskRgao/s1600/POTC%2B4.jpg
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
Not sure if it's been posted yet...
but Uggla just got traded to ATL for Infante and Dunn (a reliever)
nevermind, just went through the thread. i didnt think it would happen that fast for Uggla
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
oh yeah, they got a couple from SD too, right? Glad one of those SD reliever weeds are gone.
SD should dump Mr. Gregerson Lukerson Adams-Bell
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Marlins institute new plan in which they use relievers as starters and starters as relievers.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
This is why the answer is signing Uribe plus finding another pretty ok shortstop Sandoval is in shape and can play third? Great! He’s not? Then Uribe is your 3B and the other SS plays SS. Problem is, it might be tough to re-sign Uribe and it’s a thin market for SS all around.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM PST reply actions
Crazy to think that Huff and Uribe both cost the about the same ($3 million & $3.25 million) and both could get easily $7 million (or more, natch) on the free agent market.
who and how much
is a “pretty OK SS”? I don’t disagree but that’s kind of a scarce commodity.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
In my mind, I’m thinking someone along the lines of what Rent was (when not injured) last year.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
basically
someone who can play the position reasonably well and would be considered an above average backup but below average starter.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 16, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
the owl says whhooooooooooooo
Like I said I agree but I don’t know who you are talking about. Maybe there’s an AAAA guy somewhere that’s a little better than Matt Downs or Rohlinger but a team has given up on that could be had for a scrap or two.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
I believe he will show up to ST in the best shape of his life.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Nov 16, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Hey now..
lets save that kind of talk for March 2011
San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series Champions
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for !Matt Downs .
You know what I'm looking forward to?
All the articles over the next year that will discuss who will be the next 2010 Giants. And the next Buster Posey. And the next Brian Wilson, and Cody Ross, and Pat Burrell, and Aubrey Huff, and Juan Uribe.
And I’ll be like. “Yeah, the Giants already won the World Series. COMMENCE WITH THE STRETCHED AND ILL-FITTING COMPARISIONS, O YE PUNDITS!”
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Those have already started.
Stark? or someone over at ESPN tweeted about how he thought the A’s or Toronto or someone would be the next 2010 Giants. I replied that the 2011 Giants will be the next 2010 Giants.
Wow
so Uggla went cheaper than expected, eh?
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yeah...
The worst part is that he went to the Braves…perhaps the worst possible team for the Giants considering how close Braves came to beating the Giants in the LDS…why couldn’t the Marlins trade him to the Tigers or the Angels
Yeah
I’m not real sure that FLA maximized their asset here.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
The chances that the Braves play the Giants again aren’t that great.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
2011 Giants
86 wins.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
95 wins is the number I’m camping under. A whole year of Bumgarner and Posey, mmm
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
The top teams in the NL right now are Phillies, Braves, Giants, Reds, Cards, and maybe Padres/Colorado…Giants have to go through those team to get to the WS again
I really doubt that the Padres will have a winning season.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
This
However, I do think the Padres will have a fire sale.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately, no.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully we’ll get our own Adrian in Belt.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
I wish.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
me too. maybe our wishes converge and good things happen
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
Your worst part is my best part
I’m glad Uggla didnt go to a division rival. Glad he stayed in the NL East, where we will see him 6 times a year vs 18.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
you got to wonder if sabes even made a call to the marlins at all
he just prolly figured, like we all did, that he would be too expensive and didnt bother
KICK THOSE TIRES DAMNIT
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Likes Burgers
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Lower Body
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Lynn Bracken.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Light Bulb (shaped)
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Left Behind
It’s just one of the hundreds of radical right-wing messages inserted into every post by author Grant Frisbee.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
so with uggla now gone who steps in as the new rosterbation great white whale?
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions
Christina Hendricks.
Er, I mean, Justin Upton.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
ill bet Towers wont ask for alot for Drew. He’s trying to rebuild, and wants prospects.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Towers
Said today that he would have to be “blown away” to deal Drew, much more likely that they deal Upton.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
They don’t have any real prospects at SS, and Drew’s only going to be 28 in 2011 – worth resigning when he’s an FA in 2013. I think it’d take either Dirty/Bumgarner + prospects, or a major prospect package headed by Belt.
Worth kicking around, but don’t expect anything.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I probably read too much into Towers saying “he will listen to anything” regarding Drew and Upton
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
B.J. Upton
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I'll take his brother
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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I'll take BJ
I’m not picky
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Hmmmm.
Nah.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
They would both be great
but if Justin’s available…
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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Nishioka (see below)
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
The player so nice you named him twice.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 16, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
We already have Mike Fontenot.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
by El Person on Nov 16, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This
Wreck’d
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Im thinking Jose Bautista. Dood can hit bombs
also that marlins bullpen should be pertty nice now
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Bautista, seriously? I’d wait until the end of 2011 to even think about him.
That’s the all-time buy high right there.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on the asking price. If they come down like the braves I wouldnt mind a slight over pay. So long as theyre still not asking sanche/madbum+prospects. But I would trade neal for him right now
sometimes you just have to roll the dice
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’d do Neal for Bautista in a heartbeat, but there’s no way that’s going to happen.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Like i said depends on what they want. Neal was just a starter point. I might be convinced to move wheeler. I really think bautista maintains 35 homer power for a while
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by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Bautista has never done anything remotely close to this in his career, and also hit the vast majority of his HRs in Toronto, where the balls flew this year.
I don’t think any of us know what his true numbers are
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldnt say vast. He hit 21 homeruns while ops-ing over 800. Sure hs home stats were better, with 33 dingers and an ops over 1.1 but I mean if he repeats 3/4 of this season than he cost way way more than what we could get him for now because he has only done it for one season
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
the one thing i do worry about is that he hit 17 of his homers against balitmore and boston. Baltimore pitching aint blowing away hitters yet and fenway can be a boon to righties
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Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
in NL West ballparks, where he would spent most of his time, i doubt he’d hit 35 HRs. I just don’t know what to make of him.
He could hit 50 HRs again next year and be worth a ton. He could get caught with PEDs. He could hit 30 HRs, a huge drop-off.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
the NL west does have the two best hitters parks in the majors. Of course it’s also got Dodgers stadium and SD.
WWRWD?
well you got ARI which is getting a humidor (or so the talk has been), you got COL, so two good hitters parks. Dodger stadium is even-keeled. Where he’d play his home games, AT&T, isn’t too bad on a RH pull hitter, but still not ideal. And SD, forgeddaboutit.
But compared to the AL East parks, Yankee Stadium, Fenway, Toronto, shitty Baltimore pitching, those are far better hitters parks.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
This is nitpicking.
You mention Yankee stadium, Fenway and Rogers Stadium, but not Tropicana or Oriole Park, both of which are pitchers’ parks. And you mention Baltimore’s bad pitching, but not the Yankees, Red Sox, or Rays – three teams with above average pitching.
The AL East is the best devision in baseball, by far. I wouldn’t worry too much about a move to the NL West (especially since he wouldn’t have to face our pitching).
what a crappy place to play baseball. and to think, the Giants would have moved there in 1993
were they going to rename the team too?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
The crazy thing is it was designed for baseball.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
eh, the Marlins dont seem to get hosed by rain
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, they do.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
All the time.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
we had huge rain delays there in recent years
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I think so
but that was in Washington IIRC
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by gallo del cielo on Nov 16, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
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—distilled from various sources
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
True. Might also be a good idea to build an open park with the synthetic grass that drains extremely well if that is a huge concern.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Rain, hurricanes and daily, brutal, stifling heat and humidity are all concerns in FL.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Swamp ass my my only concern when I went there.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
ive never lived in florida but
yeah, i know about inconsistent weather, but didnt think it affected play that much, esp after May. i just figured theyd do with FLA teams what they do with COL- give them way less home games early in the year and more at the end.
but i guess the new Marlins park will have a retractable roof- probably the best course of action.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
idiots who didnt do polls to find that the residential fans of the new teams are losers.
yes, im looking at you, MLB, for the whole “baseball in denver” thing.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
best? does arizone really beat out citizen’s bank or great american?
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by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
/arizona
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
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by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
according to ESPN park factors Coors and Arizona were 1 and 2 in 2009 (for runs). I see this year they were 1 & 9 in 2010 (for runs).
Now I don’t know much about park factors and it seems strange getting stats from ESPN but still, you gotta think those are pretty good places to hit.
WWRWD?
I don’t particularly care for park factors. Anytyhing that only cares about runs scored gives me at least a slight pause.
xanthan did something really cool with AT&T earlier in the year where he mapped out the actual effect of the park on types of hits from lefties and righties. I would love to see something like that.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
didnt that end up showing that for the most part, AT&T is overrated as a pure pitchers park?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
It is.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think most people with real knowledge of the park were already aware of that. But it did show some interesting stuff. Not sure if I can find it….
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
yeah i always thought it was overrated as a pitchers park anyhow, but that it was still tough on LH hitters.
The article was linked on BayCityBall, IIRC
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
It’s tough for lefties to hit home runs, but I think it helps them in other ways.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
oh yeah, doubles and triples galore, but sometimes that HR in any other park is a very long flyout.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Or is just off the wall for a double.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
like Huffs inside-the-parker
i meant more towards triples alley, a long high fly ball to right-center isn’t a HR- sometimes it goes for a triple, other times its caught.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
There are also balls that are fly outs in some parks which hit off the bricks in right field at ATT.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
good point. the bricks are probably around 305-315 down the line but 20’ tall. (just a guesstimate)
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
If so, that would explain why I can’t find it.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
It absolutely was:
http://triplesalley.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/how-does-att-park-affect-hitters-2/
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Generally, I would think that parks that affect the way the ball flies will have more of an effect than parks that are just small or big. A small park might increase the numbers of home runs, but a park with thin air will increase everything.
Don’t let him talk you down now, Natto. He said it increases everything. He’s just trying to hog all that sweet, sweet Arizona air for himself.
I mean, you do want your everything increased, don’t you?
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
i loved that game vs ARI towards the end of the year, it was like 102 outside and Timmeh was pitching, so ARI opened the roof right before the game started, thinking they could get him to wilt in the heat and cough up a ton of runs.
or so that’s how i like to think of it, haha
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds a hell of a lot better than moving to SD and having his everything decreased.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
/asks for papers
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
That’ll be great when they’re down 3 runs in the 7th all the time.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
/Still on the Werth wagon
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Werth RF
Ross LF
Uribe SS
Sandoval 3B
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m all for werth too. so long as its 80 mill or so
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by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
if i may rosterbate in your general direction for a second
torres cf
sanchez 2b
belt 1b
huff lf
posey c
werth rf
hardy ss
sandoval 3b
and call it an offseason
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by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather Uribe than Hardy
But yeah, Werth makes this a muuuuch better team.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’d rather have uribe too but im not sure we’ll be able to afford him after werth
something tells me a team is gonna throw a 2 year 20m offer at him. st louis maybe
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Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Nishioka.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
gesundheit
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Grant are you going to do a 10 part series on the most insignificant moments of 2010?
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1.) Barry Zito swims in his money a la Uncle Scrooge
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
/drowns, realizes he’s just sinking in paper and climbs out
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
2.) Bruce Bochy tries on hats
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
/hat really Oakland Colisseum tarp
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
by Natto on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm so glad I found waiting for boof way back when
Otherwise I might be reading 88gigantasaurus.com or something
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Burninated!
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by rightcenterfielder on Nov 16, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
I was wondering where all that fapping noise was coming from
Dream:
3B Beltre
RF J. Upton
White Whale:
215 lbs. Pablo Sandoval
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
My A's friend fears Billy will go grazy with some kind of 5 year 75M offer
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I would fully support this.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
The theory is that 3B market is so bad, he blocked the NL clubs from claiming Encarnacion so he can trade him later. He can always just non tender him anyway.
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Oh. Makes sense.
I was wondering if they were going to keep him.
I mean this was the club that was content with Hannahan or whoever as the starting 3B.
Sabean LOL's
E3
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as NOT CRUTCH. I should stop reading engrish blog.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
This
He’ll play great defense and hit .270, but you’ll pay for a lot more.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Boras will try to eek out 5 years
jerk
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
He’s doing his job.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Just like Armando
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Except Boras does his job well
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I wonder if the other teams’ GMs will look at what Sabes accomplished in 2010 with the “cheap pickups/waiver wire castoffs” and actually show some restraint on giving 5-year contracts to the Adrian Beltres of the world.
Man, that would be weird, if people started emulating Brian Sabean.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
/Shudders, remembers vow to never complain about BS if the Giants won the WS.
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by Giant Torture on Nov 16, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Ned Colletti says hello
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Oddly enough, it’s not out of the question to think that Colletti is emulating himself.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Agent Ned seems to be signing a bunch of pitchers, and looking at “misfits”, lol.
Is their reliever Kuo a FA? that dude killed us, and the Doyers bullpen still blows outside of Kuo.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as "Dreyer's Bullpen"
I could go for some mint chocolate chip
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 16, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
youre better off with Tom and Jerrys Creme Brulee ice cream.
That is the bomb.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
oops lol Ben and Jerrys.
Tom and Jerry, cat and mouse, oh how you torment me.. LOL
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Is he schizophrenic or something?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Something.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Master Emulater?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
AMOUSE!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
It would be a terrible idea to spend a lot of money to try to upgrade over Pablo Sandoval
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
of course. dont spend the money when you might actually have a better player whose head you just need to get on straight.
dollar for dollar, fixing pablo should make this a top priority
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
Atlanta's lineup officially scares the shit out of me
Prado, Heyward, Jones, McCann, Uggla? Euuuuuugh.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST reply actions
Again?
I’ll get the mop.
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by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
ill bet that’s why they signed Uggla, so Prado plays 3B.
Betting Chipper is done for good
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Current report is that Chipper plans to come back, with Prado providing 3B insurance and splitting time at first with a rookie named Freddie Freeman.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
presently an FA
i guess he’s not in their plans? Freddie Freeman has apparently posted great numbers for a 20 year old in the minors.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Lee might have just been a band-aid trade deadline pickup, they seem intent on infusing young position players, given their success with Heyward, why not give the next young guy a shot?
their #1 and 2 SP (Lowe, Hudson) is getting old, though. Hanson is young, along with Minor, not sure about the rest of their farm system. They won’t have stellar pitching for much longer if there arent young arms on the farm
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
The Braves always have young arms. I’m not sure what kind of witchcraft they practice, but it works.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
ask SD, they probably have the recipe too
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
And Oakland.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Good thing we already, like, won the World Series. Seriously. We did that. And against the Braves.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
the Braves were the team that really gave us a run for our money. Philly, yes, but a depleted Braves team still came close to knocking us out
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
and their closer broke at a particularly convenient time
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
It’s one of those risk vs. reward things, I guess. We risk that lineup playing home run derby with us, but the potential reward is Heyward, Uggla, and McCann swinging at three consecutive 2-strike changeups.
WHY IS IT ONLY NOVEMBER
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Cody Ross
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
by kennv on Nov 16, 2010 4:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Dude breaks up postseason no-hitters
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Nov 16, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
This whole winning the WS thing is fun
I’d like to do it again next year. Its also really sinking in, finally.
WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING TRADE PABLO?
seriously? cmon now. one bad year- and we know there might have been other factors affecting his on-field performance. Weight, divorce
I think one person said that.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, two. But one doesn’t count.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Two people from the same IP address is still one.
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ELITIST
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
and a bunch of ppl on fangraphs
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
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--Daisy Owl
lol
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so you are saying everybody are not girls?
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No.
But if there are no girls on the internet, then I guess this must be true. Like I said, I’m terrible with math.
Pedro Feliz!
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it seems like a whole lot more than 1, but its probably just the pent-up rosterbation taking full swing. I don’t want to see Pablo go anywhere til we know what kind of player he really is.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. Not even a question — he should be the starting third baseman. But it’s probably wise to talk tough with him instead of handing him the job, because he has plenty to work on.
like that sandwich
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Clearly Huntington doesn't know that Bartolo Colon is attempting a comeback
Pittsburgh GM Neal Huntington describes the market for available starters as “thin,” but says the Pirates “need” to upgrade their rotation.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Like his professional sumo wrestling skills.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
of course pablo has his weight issues, but yeah, he needs tough love here.
he can’t think he can do whatever he wants and will still play everyday.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
i get all the jokes now
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What I don’t like is that everybody is talking his weight, and it seems like the team has forgotten about his approach, which is really a bigger problem.
This.
He was still fat in 2009…he saw less strikes than anybody this year. He won’t hit .300 again until he learns to take pitches and make pitchers throw in the strike zone.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
Obviously, one type of improved plate discipline will lead to the other.
I think this is pretty clear.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Here's the thing though
Go dig through his stats – http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5409&position=3B
His BB% is very similar. His O-Swing number is similar. He hit similar amounts of Line Drives, Fly Balls, and Ground Balls.
On the peripherals, Pablo was very similar. Really, there seems to be just one culprit – BABIP, that harshest of mistresses.
Pablo’s 2009 BABIP was .350. This year it was .290. That’s a huge drop. And if that BABIP alone increases up to above .300 again, we have a much better Pablo.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I know all that. People can talk all they want about what changed with Sandoval – he gained weight, he’s less patient, he’s lunging, pitchers adjusted, he’s thinking about the divorce, etc. I still think the idea that he really went from being an elite hitter to being a bad one in one year, at age 23, is ridiculous, and the idea that it could all be a result of him gaining 20 pounds or taking a few extra hacks is even more ridiculous.
But, regardless, his weight is an issue. His patience is probably an even bigger issue. He needs to work on it. People were (wrongly) OK with it last year because he hit well (“whatever works for him”, etc.). They shouldn’t be. His struggles this year are a chance to convince him work on the flaws in his game – and he has huge, glaring flaws.
Long post is long
Those are really interesting numbers, because they do look like a remarkably similar player. But can we really just chalk it up to random BABIP variation? Is it that the numbers are showing this to be an incredibly fluky case or that the numbers aren’t telling the whole story?
I few things I would like to mention… his “similar” line drive rate was 1.5% lower. If he’d hit LD at the same rate as last year, assuming they fall for hits the standard 74% of the time, he’d have had 5 more hits, and his batting average would have been 9 points higher.
His IFFB% was 3.3 points higher this year. This might be statistically insignificant. If that rate were the same as 2009, it might have resulted in only more hit (although perhaps an XBH). But let’s keep in mind that Pablo isn’t hitting into categories; he’s hitting on to a field, and all this categorization stuff happens later. Not all fly balls are created equal. If we combine his higher IFFB% with his depressed HR/FB% (which was half in 2010 what it was in 2009), mightn’t that simply suggest that he wasn’t hitting the ball as well? By which I mean, even if those %s were the same in 2010 as they were in 2009, that wouldn’t be enough to count for the differences in Pablo’s two seasons. But a FB hit by Pablo in 2009 is not the same as a FB hit by Pablo in 2010, and these numbers might be telling us that.
One more thing: Pablo’s “Z-swing” rate was down to 78.9% in 2010 from 83% in 2009. That is, he wasn’t swinging as often at stuff in the zone. Meanwhile his “O-swing” rate rose 3 points. He was swinging more often at stuff out of the zone. Even those his contact rates rose in both instances, he was swinging at worse pitches.
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I still can't believe the Giants won the World Series.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
(My signature cut off the arrow at my screen name. bollocks.)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe she's born with it
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They whaaaat?
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
And it makes me want to sssiiiiiinnnnggg!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Stop that. Stop that. You won't be breaiking into a song while I'm here.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
Who whatf?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This scene, from the Holy Grail. Yes, I thought so.
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
IS THIS THE REAL LIFE?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Nov 16, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
It’s finally starting to set in, because I see “SF championship gear” in every MLB-associated website
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I think we are sort of over-thinking this one.
You go into the season assuming Pablo is the answer at 3B until he shows up to camp weighing a metric ton. Upon that unfortunate event, DeRosa becomes the stop-gap and handles third. Its much easier to find a Pat Burrell midseason than a legitimate 3B.
Cain is Able ...
McCoven? Overthinking?
What do you think this is, sfgate?
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I agree with overthinking
But I disagree with going into the season with Pablo inked in as the 3B, unless that is in Fresno. I think going after Beltran is the best play right now.
wait, what?
any move where we add 18 million in payroll for a player coming off major knee surgery is not the BEST play.
Cain is Able ...
yeah i dont think that they should break the bank on a guy who also only plays well in contract years. but thats beside the point.
Pablo is still an average 3B, career line is probably above average. They, along with the fanbase, expect more out of him, as we all should, but I’d still be happy with a .290/.340/.450 line from him along with good defense.
Uribe, Pat and Huff are more of a priority than signing a 3B based on the contention that we should expect nothing out of Pablo. Because if he storms out of the gates in 2011, where do we put him if we’ve already spent $18mil bones on Beltre? trade him right away?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
I pretty much agree here. I mean Panda wasn’t what we wanted to be, but even if he only hits what he hit this year, if his D is average he’s not all that bad. Not great, but it wouldn’t be as bad as some of the guys we’ve played there over the past few years.
AND, if last year was just a sophomore jinx, then watch out!
the responses may be funny, but they’re still right :)
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Very OT:
“Your Highness” looks like it might be the funniest movie of 2011.
Warning: very offensive comedy. It’s The Princess Bride & Beastmaster & Superbad rolled into one. Red band movie trailer.
by Every6thDay on Nov 16, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I want to marry Zooey.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
This looks like
It will either be awesome or one of the worst movies ever.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
All of my favorite actors and Luke Skywalker’s mom?!
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Luke Skywalker's mom
She’s still Mathilda to me.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
rec'd
for bringing this important nerdgasm to my attention.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
Just stopping by to say:
Buster fuckin’ Posey bitches!
Alright, back to studying.
P.S. it was my birthday yesterday and to celebrate I studied for like 7 hours. Yeah!
Oh and to answer the question, Pablo is the starter (assuming he gets his shit together this off-season which I think he will. Just put down the Cheetos and Mountain Dew Pablo) at 3B next year, hopefully.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Walkoff is behind me again.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
LOL, well, yeah.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
You know, it’s less fun stalking you now that you know how I look like.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
I still don’t know your name, though. If you leave before me, I can find out your last name and what your first name starts with, though.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
…that’s not creepy at all.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
It would be even more creepy if I was actually going to do it. I talk big.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well, apparently.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
More accurately, I don’t talk almost at all when you’re around. But that’s less figurative.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Although, now you know what my name is.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Sort of.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, it’s better than just knowing me as Chop.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
Now all my friends in the computer lab have no idea why I respond to “Howie”.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I actually am sitting with two friends right now. I’m as amazed as you.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Clean!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
LOL. Uh. Whoops?
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
And after the first stalking event I actually got nervous walking around campus seeing people who look kind of sort of like you. There were some odd stares exchaged.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Were you trying to stalk me?
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
No, I thought you were trying to stalk me, but I wasn’t sure if it was actually you or not.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Nah. I only stalk you if we’re at Stern at the same time or if someone asks me to stalk you (like tonight).
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
Psst…stalk Howie on alternate Thursdays for me?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Thursdays I am easy to stalk.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Stop trying to play this down so I don’t have Chop stalk you for me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I just looked at your avatar on your profile for the first time. I always thought the cat was a shin/foot, and the bat was your hand reaching to grab your foot as you did a sweet toe grab in mid air.
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"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
No time to do a sweet toe grab while you’re hunting zombies with kitty.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
I actually love doing toe grabs while I hunt zombies, maybe that’s just me.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
You have to be really careful if you do it, though. It overexposes the midsection.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Man, I’m tired out here.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, then.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I know
I saw the picture
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Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Did I have my hat on in the picture? I put it on backward so the Giants logo would show if she took a picture.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t approve of the ‘G’ logo, but yes.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
What? The ‘G’ logo is great. I tell non-baseball people that it stands for “Garrett”.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
I’m going to go ahead and approve it for Garrett-related purposes.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
so Howie, can you confirm that there truly is indeed a wimmin on the internet?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
There was for a few minutes there.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
sl
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
lol backwards hat
I think Tim Reynolds is gonna come out for the encore, and they’re going to rip through “Dancing Nancies”, brah. Totally.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
YOU ARE EVAN LONGORIA?
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I AM NOT RELATED TO EVA LONGORIA!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
first time i heard of them both, i thought they might be brother/sister or married.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously?
Evan Longoria is a pretty damn good third baseman for the Rays
Eva Longoria is..well she’s pretty
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
I think he means the first time he heard of them, he thought that.
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"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
yeah that makes a lot more sense now. I was like “wtf?”
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
yeah, SoulBrothers got it. So many famous people are related, that its not far-fetched.
Thought their parents had some name fetish, or they were married with eerily similar first names.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I do apologize for thinking you didn’t know who they were. I am now embarrassed
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
AND STAY EMBARASSED!!
lol, its all good man. you were wrong on one point- Eva Longoria isn’t just pretty. she’s smokin hot.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
hehe
true on that good sir, but the lady is still married so…didn’t want to offend any of the married types on here by pining after a married woman
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
as long as it isn’t THEIR woman you are pining after, i dont think it matters.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
So by that logic…I can my pining for Jaymee Sire is still allowed? AWESOME
I <3 Jaymee Sire XD
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
still allowed. I think half this board pines for her.
she’s married? dammit
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
that’s what someone said in one of the Post Game 5 threads…I had a sad face.
But she is so totally AWESOME
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
i dont think she’s married. ive never noticed a ring (as someone who was married and is now /ex’d, i notice rings nowadays)
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
Yes Pablo is the definitely the starting 3B in 2011. Without a doubt. Getting in better shape may do wonders, but having more of a gameplan (and sticking to it) at the plate will probably be more beneficial. Big year for Pablo in 2011.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 5:48 PM PST reply actions
goddamnit
i hate people coming to my door trying to get me to throw money towards their cause. i dont want to be rude and cut them off, but i dont want to waste their time either. apparently they never see the No Solicitations Please sign that’s on a stake right on the walkway.
grr…
I think it’s better to be rude and not waste their time. Part of the sales strategy is making you feel like you’re wasting their time so you feel bad and cave. No shame in just letting them hassle somebody else sooner.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
You can be firm but not rude I think. Just let them know it’s not gonna happen and get out of there quickly.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yeah. But if you’re not sociable by nature, do it my way.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
My second option is to say, “I’ll give you $100..if you let me punch you in the stomach as hard as I can.”
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Nov 16, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
this would work well with my practice of chasing mormons off with my hose
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
“He knocks a stake through the heart of the Solicitors! The Solicitors are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
I hate it but if im really bored i’ll argue the opposite of whatever theyre saying just for funsies
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
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Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
that would be awesome, except half the time i have no idea what the hell the cause even is. these salespeople are so experienced they can talk for 10min before even telling me what they want. i always know the ending, though.
I usually just end up saying “how much” within the first minute or two. If it’s more than $10, forget it.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
My Dad used to let them give their whole spiel, even at times having them come in, sit down in the living room and get a comprehensive critique on their sales technique (including helpful suggestions on how to improve). And then he would never, never give them a dime.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
I tried out for a job that required doing that crap. It was torture. I enjoyed an argument though.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
What does this even mean?
JeffFletcherAOL #sfGiants “cautiously optimistic” about signing Uribe and Huff.
Sounds like fan service to me.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Uribe side-boob!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
/faints
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hey man, stop fapping all over the fourth wall.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well… this is dramatically ironic
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
JEFF FLETCHER IS MAI SHIRANUI?!?
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
sounds like they are talking multi-year deals.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
thats the only way one gets “cautiously optomistic”
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
trade panda?
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Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Oh man
The grocery store one is pretty awesome too
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Pablo is our 3B, he was average last year and should be given every chance to bounce back. With that said, I am all for pursuing Uggla. Still.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 6:24 PM PST reply actions
We should know who won the bidding for Nishioka by this time next week
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15-20mil?
i dont think it will be us. thats alot of money for what is a “signing bonus”
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
f that
throw that at UUUUUUUUUUUUU
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by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
this
would rather spend it on Juan. At least we know he can play SS.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
The bidding will reportedly range from 4M to 20M
I Imagine the total bidding will be about 10M. And yeah I’m pretty meh on him
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Hell no
Unless you’re bidding no more than, like 5, he’s never going to be worth the post AND his contract, even if his numbers are as good as they were in Japan, which they won’t be.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
yep, totally agree. someone with money to burn will do it, though, and we can watch it all come crashing down.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Um, what exactly is Sandoval worth if he can’t play third?
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
define "can't play third"?
there’s a 15 run difference between the 1B/3B positional adjustment, and 1B is at -12.5 runs.
It all goes back to how he hits. If he hits like 2009 (or even his career), his D at 1B would have to be 15 runs better than it is at 3B. If he hits like 2010, with bad D at third, he’s pretty worthless.
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As in worse defense at third than Jeter at SS.
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
by atxgiantsfan on Nov 16, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
So you’re saying he has an outside shot at the GG?
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
well, he’d have to be at least a -10-12 defender at 3B to consider moving him. Again, it’s all about his offense.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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I kind of meant more along value to the team. I don’t see any sense in moving him to first with BB knocking on the door. The way I see it, he plays third for us or he has no role on this team. That said I still believe he can play third adequately and any rosterbation has to have him playing there
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
by atxgiantsfan on Nov 16, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Well
if he puts up a 120 wRC+, it won’t really matter, because like i said, his D would have to be REALLY bad.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
if he's a backup C
he’d be just fine. Jim Leyritz was useful until, well, the crime and stuff.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
did he kill someone?
otherwise, I’d be calling it “until he pulled a Villanueva”
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
trial pending apparently
not a happy retirement for Mr. Leyritz.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Where would one find league averages such as league average HR/FB?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 6:45 PM PST reply actions
I usually just look at the team HR/FB for the league, then pick the Mode for a quick and dirty approximation, but i know BBR has at least some of that stuff
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Thanks
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
OT: On my laptop Twitter won't load
It keeps saying “done with errors on the page” but all I get is a white screen. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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what error?
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--Daisy Owl
Object doesn't support this property or method
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interesting
what browser are you using
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
IE
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IE what
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I believe it's the most recent version, but I'm not sure
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hmm
if it’s IE 8, I’m really not sure what the root cause is, but it sounds like you’re getting some AJAX error in pre-render
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I would DL firefox or chrome and try it there
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I have Safari too
and it works on that, so I’ll just do that. Thanks btw
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Gobroks i respect you deeply as a poster and I’m sure you mean well
but this is 2010. We should not be using IE at this point. I hear good things about IE 8 but honestly you should be using firefox or chrome
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
It was on the laptop when I got it
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if you ever feel like it
http://www.google.com/chrome
http://www.opera.com/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html
I used to be die hard IE but than IE 6 happened and i’ll never forgive microsoft for that
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
I got Safari too, so I'll go with that for now
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good choice
I actually really like safari
reminds me of netscape
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
It works well for my ITouch too
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
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IE 6
wasn’t actually that bad at the time. The big problem with it is that for some reason people are STILL using it.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I’m still am forced to use a corporate-modified IE 6 browser when I’m on my company’s VPN. It really blows for loading big McC threads.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I'm a web programmer
IE 6 is the bane of my existence.
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
like 10% of web requests come from IE 6. It’s absolutely ludicrous.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Opera is awesome. I love how I can highlight anything and search it on whatever I want (including, but not limited to, Google, Wikipedia, JSTOR and Baseball-Reference). I can do the same by typing into the address bar.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
since we’re talking about random errors
does anyone else who has firefox use ign? everytime i try to hit page down it freaks out. my pagedown works on every other site but ign
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
I just tried that. That’s weird. Page down works there for Chrome though.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 16, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
It's happened for like a week
It used to work fine
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such a dumb fucking move. esp when you consider what type of arms ATL has on their team and in their farm, jeebus, ask for a little more next time.
the only thing keeping me from being angry Sabes didn’t swoop on this is that we don’t really have a true use for Uggla
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
More importantly its new GLEE NITE!!!!!!!!!!!
dont worry. I wont try to do another edition of McCovglee chronicles
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 6:52 PM PST reply actions
Meh
Darker and Edgier version of High School Musical
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I totally read that as
Darker and Edgar version of High School Musical. I was trying to imagine a darker Edgar Renteria and my mind wasn’t having it.
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I dunno about you guys
But NLCS game 4 was the most awesome game of the playoffs for me, personally.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12875267
So much awesome in there.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
SURPRISE, BITCHES!
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
It does have my favorite play this postseason
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Nov 16, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Great game.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Nov 16, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Caption for this photo
Two Virgins, One Huff
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
For a while it looked like the Rowand-to-Posey exchange would turn out meaningless.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Rowand fail overthrowing cutoff man works out. Even Scott couldn’t bring down this one.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
I was in the cove for that game, exciting stuff.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
A trade for Scutaro or Bartlett would be my Plan B
If an Uribe signing doesn’t happen
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I like Roger's idea from a few days ago
Trading one of the young, ready bullpen arms (not Romo or Wilson) to the Rays for Bartlett.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
The Rays and Red Sox both need pen help
So Runzler for Bartlett/Scutaro could be fairly realistic.
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But the Red Sox don't have to go cheap to assemble their pen
While the Rays do. That’s why I think it might take more than Runzler to acquire Scutaro from the Red Sox.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I don't think Runzler is a cheap asset
I mean he’s cost controlled but that adds to his value
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I just meant the Rays' budget constraints
Lead them to assemble cheap bullpens most of the time
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
True
Although I think that would be more important in FA, rather than in a trade for Runzler who could help a lot of teams, regardless of budget
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I would really really really want Bartlett, but I dont see Sabes and co. trading for anyone with multiple yrs still left
I think they really believe Crawford will be here in 2012, or ’13. Based off of some interviews Ive heard with Brian.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
yep
arb-eligible this year, just made 4 million.
scutaro is also a free agent in 2012 and is due 6 million this year.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Scutaro has a mutual option (or something like that) as well
I think that he’d probably be a little harder to get than Bartlett
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Scutaro has a 6M team option or a 3M player option
and I think that Scutaro would be harder to get, just because I think the Rays trust Brignac/Rodriguez more than Boston trusts Lowrie
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I don’t think that’s true. In fact, I think Boston actively wants to find a way to get Lowrie in the lineup.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I heard they got worried about him with his injury history
I don’t know if they want to trade their middle infield depth, especially with Pedroia coming off an injury
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I'd like to take a chance on Jed Lowrie
but he might cost more, I guess.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 16, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he's the reason Boston is willing to trade Scutaro
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Marco (clap clap) Scutaro (clapclapclap)
I think that’s how it used to go.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
the folks in Colorado thought they’d be creative by adding a few more claps.
Instead, they got the clap.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
OT -- When flipping through channels, the one movie that makes you immediately stop and watch to completion every time?
The Hunt for the Red October
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
gladiator
even when its on shitty tbs
same with MIB
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Gladiator, constantly on TNT.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
heh
I’m just finishing A Few Good Men for the same reason. Tom Cruise is an ass and Nicholson and Sutherland were fantastic.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
he's the company commander
immediate superior to the two defendants.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
well, he was good
as was Kevin Bacon.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Bacon’s good with anything.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
you clearly need to watch the movie
5,000 more times
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
He was the scariest guy in the film. Scarier than Nicholson.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
I was gonna say this. Also, the LOTR trilogy.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Shooter, for some reason
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
free association maybe
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t know Matt Cain posted here…
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Good. I like being in the background and sitting at tables by myself.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 16, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
That’s one of my favorite all-time comfort movies. I’ll put it on or watch it at any time.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
you lost ANOTHER submarine?
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“I would have liked to see…Montana. Or Young. Maybe even Rattay. But for fuck’s sake, isn’t it about time to cut bait with Smith?”
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
" ‘Ryan, some things in here don’t react well to bullets.’ Yeah, like me. I don’t react well to bullets."
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
This movie led me to contemplate the two-faced early Alec Baldwin. There were films like this (even though he has to execute someone in it) and say Prelude to a Kiss where he’s so nice he’s almost cute. Then there were movies like Malice, The Juror, and of course Glengarry Glen Ross where he’s freaking terrifying.
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Not a movie
But whenever Spike rolls out its Band of Brothers marathon – Memorial Day, Veteran’s Day, Good Friday (not kidding), I do end up leaving it on. Even though I have the Blu-ray. and the dvd. and digital copies on my itunes. which might have come from a dvd, or might not. which is also on my iphone. just in case, y’know, i’m stranded.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve seen 1 episode of Band of Brothers, but I’ve seen it like 6 times. Every time I see it on it’s the same damn episode.
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
oh man, brb
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Ok here you go
Don’t laugh too hard. Did it 100% out of memory. It’s been 11 years since I tried playing something on the Piano.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QRb5LThKgQ
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Can I just say
That if Sabean has an extra $1m around after solving the shortstop, left field, and (temporary) first base issues and doesn’t want to put it into the draft next year, it would be nice to see Gregg Zaun as Buster’s backup catcher? I know it’s not a pressing need, but it would be a nice upgrade (plus Zaun wouldn’t be a terrible option off the bench).
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I realize the irony of complaining about Posey playing too much
but I too am afraid Buster will catch too many games if Whiteside is the only alternative. And Plan B is important for teams that expect to make a run at the post season.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 16, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Catcher seems to be the position where it’s easiest to find solid options for little cost (which means you should either pay for elite catchers, or not pay at all). It might because there are so many low AVG, high OBP catchers. Guys like Zaun and Ianneta are treated like backups even though they’re better than most starting catchers.
It’s not going to happen, but I would love to trade for Ianneta, and let him start some games against LHP, with Buster at 1B and Belt or Huff resting (Ianneta probably hits LHP better than Huff anyway). The difference between his bat and Whitside’s is significant, even in just 150-200 PA’s. Easily worth a win. And we get to save Buster’s legs.
I don’t know if Ianetta is a lefty or not, but how could Buster, a RH hitter, possibly hit lefties worse than Ianetta? unless Ianetta is LH and has some wierd reverse platoon split, LHP should be Busters strong side.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Iannetta is a righty, and he doesn’t hit LHP better than Posey, but he probably hits them better than Huff. So, against a LHP, Iannetta catching and Posey at 1B is just as good as Posey catching and Huff at 1B. Allows us to rest Posey’s legs without hurting the lineup.
oh, i misread that, my bad.
Huff doesn’t have a platoon split, OPS was .884 vs LHP, .894 vs RHP
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
bear in mind, this is over one season
His career OPS is .777 against lefties, and .865 against righties. I don’t think it’s benchworthy under any normal circumstances, but going forward we should expect to see a little wider split.
(Or he might just go Beast Mode and destroy everything again. Who knows?!)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
This
Single season platoon splits are bordering on useless – look at careers. Huff’s are normal.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOL ME
oops. i must have copied his 2010 splits, not career. the numbers sounded a little high, but i knew he’d had great years before so didnt think much of it.
either way, Lies and Perfidy, you make a good point- a better backup catcher would be nice, but next to last if i had a list of priorities. a LH backup catcher would be nicer (if they exist, haha), to still offer a LH bat in the lineup if Posey is at 1st. Never seen a LH throwing and batting catcher, that I can think of. Mauer, maybe?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
I like this idea. I wonder if the Rockies are down enough on him to trade him though (esp now that Olivo is gone.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Doubtful
I think they got rid of Olivo because they’re finally ready to go with Ianetta.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
that's what I was assuming
but that looks kinda ugly.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure what to make of this
They do seem to like him, but it doesn’t sound like they have too much confident in him.
Chris Iannetta, 27, sits atop the depth chart, but that might not be the case in April, or even February, in a marketplace that features free agents Victor Martinez. Yorvit Torrealba, Ramon Hernandez, Olivo and trade candidate Mike Napoli.
“I think it’s a fluid situation,” said general manager Dan O’Dowd, who hasn’t ruled out bringing Olivo back.
Despite the uncertainty, O’Dowd expresses confidence in Iannetta despite a roller-coaster four-year career that has seen him win and lose the starting job multiple times. Iannetta hit .197 with nine home runs last season and was demoted to Triple-A Colorado
“We are absolutely prepared to give Chris every opportunity to get over the hump. That’s one of the things we haven’t done,” O’Dowd said. “But we will keep an eye on the market for a fit. Maybe it’s a complementary-type catcher and we tell Chris to take this thing and run with it.”
Also (and this is pure speculation, but from a Denver newspaper):
Olivo is gone, but there are no guarantees that Iannetta will be the starter. He, too, could be traded depending on how the offseason plays out.
The Rockies could explore trade talks for Angels catcher Mike Napoli or make a run at free agent-in-waiting Victor Martinez, who hit .302-20-79 for the Red Sox in 2010. If they acquire one of the two, Iannetta, who wants to play every day, likely would be dealt.
Iannetta’s run production has slipped dramatically since 2008 when he hit .264 with 18 home runs and 65 RBIs. He hit .228-16-52 in 2009, then nosedived to .197-9-27 in 2010.
Someone should tell them Bengie Molina could be convinced to play another season.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
oh, they dumped Olivo? didnt know that. yeah, they’re def gonna go with Ianetta. But why dump Olivo when you could just keep him as a backup?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Thet traded him to the Blue Jays
who then declined his option, and could get a supp. pick for him being on their roster for ~90 minutes
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Only if he doesn’t accept arbitration after they offer it. I bet he’ll accept it, just to fuck with them.
I doubt he accepts it after seeing what Buck got
They are both low OBP, High SLG, Poor Defensive catchers
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Olivo isn’t poor defensively. i mean, he only threw the ball into left field so the winning run could score. no biggie.
Look at the numbers Olivo put up in COL. IN COL. think he’s gonna be good anywhere else? I’m betting he accepts arbitration, then TOR trades him
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
He put up a higher OPS in KC the year before he came to Col
also Buck was coming off easily the best year in his career and got 3 years. This is probably like last year when Pudge, Kendall got 2 year deals
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he hit better in KC than in COL? i didnt look up his stats in the first place because i figured everyone hits better in COL than they do anywhere else :coughcough: Carlos Gonzalez ::coughcough::
I don’t think Olivo gets a deuce-year deal though. He’s really not very good. Hmm, maybe the Dodgers get him. They had Barajas towards the end of last year, right?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
2009 KC: .242/.290/.490
2010 Col: .269/.315/.449
Yes, his power went down in Colorado
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He had such an epic slump in the second half this year.
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joke aside, its probably safe to assume if he hadn’t been playing through health problems, he doesn’t hit that massive slump, and his numbers overall go up from KC.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Eh maybe
But low OBP, high SLG players don’tt age gracefully and this might be the start of a Molina-esque decline
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Yet Jim Tracy kept playing him!
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Not a bad idea at all
Backup catcher with above-average BB%? Me likey.
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well he’s not playing alot, Buster gets the time
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
we really do need to upgrade at the backup catcher position.
Whiteside sucks
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
if something happened to buster, i think we’d already be in deep enough trouble that it won’t matter who we trot out there.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
absolutely not
If you’re talking a month or so? Or two weeks at the end of the season, and it’s the difference between hanging onto a playoff spot and dropping out?
It’s entirely possible Posey is irreplaceable, but if the Giants can find a C good enough to start for some teams they should do that. And as I said above it will be less tempting (a little) to play him every day and twice on Sunday if there’s a good C on the bench.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
This only means we can get Justin Upton for relatively cheap as well.
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Relative to….say……Albert Pujols?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 16, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Reportedly relative to Stephen Drew
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Oh god yes burn notice
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 16, 2010 8:50 PM PST reply actions
love that show
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
yes
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 16, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
i used to watch that show. now i know how to be a secret agent. shame on Michael Westen, spilling secrets on national TV!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
He also teaches you how to be a criminal. But he just looks so badass while doing it.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
I think his gf looks more badass doing it
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Especially since she looks thin enough to be broken with your bare hands. Man…nothing beats a chick with guns and enough explosives to blow up a city
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
…so long as she is on your side hahaha
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
oh man she would be one scary sight if I saw her walking towards me pist off /shudders
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
i might just crawl into a fetal position, so she’ll come up and say “dont worry, i wont kill you” then I’d be all “hi-yah, yak-ching-BOOM”
That’s how you beat up a girl. I mean, uh… yeah
this is purely fictional. seriously. i dont hit girls. but i would hit her to save my life
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
I would probably look up and beg for mercy if she said “Don’t worry, I won’t kill you”
And I love the disclaimer XD
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
always gotta have that disclaimer if you’re talking about women and hitting in the same sentence. all depends on the context.
because I would hit that ;)
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
lolz
idk if I would tap her, but that “crazy” neighbor from the “Neighborhood Watch” episode…I’d definitely hit that ;P
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
you dont even know her name?
that blond chick on 30 Rock, Jane Krakowski, is smokin
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
ahh there we go her name is Navi Rawat aka Kendra from Burn Notice =P
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
i thought her name was Gabrielle Anwar?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
that's Fiona (the main chick)
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i dont remember Kendra. I haven’t seen any of the new ones though. this is old memory im going off of
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
lolz ahh ok. Yeah Kendra is a villain who’s around for a couple episodes. She is pretty hot
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
yeah
she appeared early in season 4, for 1-2 episodes.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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ohhhhh- that assassin chick who jumped off a building?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
i think so
i don’t remember her jumping off a building but she was an assassin.
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by operation carrot on Nov 16, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Hey guys....
I saw that someone had made a video retrospective of the Giants. As baseball fans, I think you’ll appreciate this retrospective of the Rangers. I didn’t really have any sad feelings about the season, but it got really dusty in my dorm room watching this.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
Thanks for sharing
It’s always great to get other perspectives. Believe me, if there is one fanbase that knows what you guys went through, it’s us.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Heh.
The thing that’s always been frustrating being a fan of this team was that they weren’t awful like the Pirates have been. They were just below average. Baseball has always been my true love, so I’ve always been attached to the team, even in the dark times after Tex was traded in 2007, and it looked like they were doomed for years to come.
I’m worried about next year. It’s prime for a letdown after how awesome and emotional this season was for me. If you would have told me the freaking Rangers would have made the World Series in March, I would have been ecstatic. But after getting there and losing… Ugh. The thing that hurts the most is that (not to discredit the SF pitching), but the approach our hitters had in the series made things much easier for your pitching. You would have probably still won, but I felt like the Rangers didn’t play their best baseball in those five games. That’s what makes it so frustrating. Alas, I am rambling. Love you all.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
The Phillies and Braves fans said that too :)
I think the Rangers have a really nice looking team and their farm system seems pretty strong as well. I really do hope they are able to re-sign Lee – has there been any news about that?
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Nolan and Greenberg visited Arkansas yesterday and today
Apparently Nolan took Lee hunting. It was more of a first date, you know, telling them that they’re interested, and to set up future meetings with Lee and his agent. Apparently the meetings were just with Lee. It’s nice to see that he feels comfortable enough to know that Nolan wasn’t going to get into specifics.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
talk about wooing a pitcher into staying… wanna go hunting?, asks Nolan
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Cliff Lee is an avid hunter.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, i meant more like Lee is really liking this whole “courtship” and attention from teams that he is getting, while figuring out where he wants his big payday to come from.
personally, i think he’s listening to the plans each team has for their future- doesn’t want to sign for 5 years with a team that isn’t gonna compete 100%
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
And FYI, I meant more of the Rangers general approach of hitting.
Too many times they were impatient and would swing at pitches outside the zone. They were extremely disciplined in the first two rounds of the playoffs.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it's weird, the Braves and Phillies fans said the same exact thing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm not trying to be a jerk
But they seriously did say more or less the exact same thing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
MEANIE!
Haha, I swear I’m not trying to take away anything from what the pitching did. It was incredible. It’s just frustrating seeing a team change its approach after it had worked so well.
I knew the series was over when Kinsler’s HR in game 2 rolled back. It just wasn’t meant to be.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I know you’re not trying to do anything like that, it’s just funny how Giants pitching magically made three very patient teams turn into hackers. :)
(And they really did, the Phillies, Braves and Rangers were all great OBP/plate discipline teams during the regular season.)
(I’m not looking that up so if it’s not true, I don’t care.)
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
this is what happens when teams play the Giants. it’s not just TEX… people were like “well the Giants got lucky that the Braves started slumping”.
Then people said the same about the Phillies.
Then after SF won the WS, they said the same about the Rangers.
At some point, you just gotta say damn, so THIS is why they were the best staff in baseball this year.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
They came first for the Padres,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Padre.
Then they came for the Braves,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Brave.
Then they came for the Phillies,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Phillie.
Then they came for the Rangers
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably part of me is thinking
Damn, this team beat the Yankees EASILY. I just felt like nothing was going to stop them after that. But Cain>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hughes and Lincecum>>>>>>>Sabathia.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Also
Madison Bumgarner>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AJ Burnett
Heh. Speaking of Burnett,
Molina’s HR off of him was a WPA of .396! He had a WPA of .490 for the game!
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
that was quite the shocking HR from our standpoint.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
The playoffs are weird like that. The Giants came uncomfortably close to getting bounced from the playoffs by a crippled facsimile of the Atlanta Braves. Kyle Farnsworth killed a rally by inducing a weak double play from our best hitter, and then closed out the ninth. Kyle Farnsworth.
Yeah, the playoffs are weird.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Atlanta turned out to be the toughest series. Looking back, the Giants seemed to have steamrolled through the postseason, but man, the emotional and mental anguish in those series wins … I’m still having PTSD symptoms.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Eh?
I’d say the Phillies were the toughest series.
Even down to the clinch, they had the winning run on base. They were much better than the Braves, and they were probably better than the Rangers too.
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Hmm. Maybe you’re right.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Phillies were the toughest for the Giants, the Braves were the toughest for us.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Giants came closer to losing some of the Braves games, especially Game 1 (the only run they scored was thanks to a blown call) and 3 (that comeback, while wonderful, was kind of nuts).
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
speaking of sheer bile…
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
ATL just upgraded their 2B defense marginally, lol
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
the Fatfinger game was pretty close
and it was a 5-game series, so the margin for error was a lot smaller.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:03 AM PST up reply actions
The Phillies played better baseball overall, but the Braves’ pitching staff just shut the Giants right the hell down. Maybe it was the sinkerballers, maybe it was playoff jitters, but every game of that series was 100% certified Torture. Even Timmy’s dominant performance was against a backdrop of “one mistake and this is a new game.”
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
It might be my own perception
Since I’ve been jonesing for a shot at the Phillies all year.
But during the Braves series, I knew we were the better team. Any way you shaped it up, we were better than them – at least on paper.
The Phillies, though, were the juggernaut. Those wins just felt so much harder fought.
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i agree with you on the first bit
And I think that’s why the Atlanta series felt worse for me. It felt like something we needed to win. Philly was a terrifying bulldozer of a team; the Braves might as well have been playing Bobby Cox in the infield.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
what would have sucked even more if we had lost to ATL, was that we all knew the Phils would smash them to bits. PHI did to ATL what SD did to us this year, but more brutally (or so they say).
So if we don’t get past ATL, PHI goes to the WS. also, we have massive trouble with sinkerballer pitchers. every game, i’d look to see who was pitching and if he had a sinker.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Up until game 4 or so, I still got physically enraged at the sight of Eric Hinske doing his home run trot.
Can you imagine the sheer bile that would spill forth at the mention of the names Ankiel & Hinske if we’d lost that series?
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
… am I creating memories, or was there a game where the Giants were down to the last strike, Freddy was at-bat, he got a walk, and the team proceeded to come from behind and win the game …?
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
that was the Conrad game. Freddy hacked at two pitches, then took the 0-2 up the middle, then Huff laid in a hit, then Posey hit it through the wickets
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
through the wickets (twice on one batted ball)
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12510329
Uggla may also pull Brooks Conrads for the Braves, even when he’s playing short right field in a shift.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
yeah ATL only marginally upgraded their 2B defense on that one.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
as in Conrad to Uggla. Sure, offense is massively upgraded, but that 2B defense is likely to still be bad, esp with groundball pitchers on the team, means more errors for Uggla
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
hahahahaha I had never seen that before. amazing.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
That is amazing
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i remember this. it was right at the end of the season, IIRC
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
i was watching the game, hoping the braves would lose so we would get into the playoff without having to even beat SD in 1 of the final 3. WSH had just taken 2 of 3 from ATL, and i was hoping the fish could do better, but ATL won 2 of 3 and we were forced to beat SD at least once.
my memory is wierd at remembering random things.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
so THAT’S WHY the Braves wanted him. Sentimental value
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think Ishi walked and Freddy singled. Let me look.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
we went over this a bit ago, i though Ish had led off the inning, but Ross had led off (out), Ish walked, Torres K’d (i think), Sanchez singled, Huff singled, Posey took the conrad’ing
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
correct
just looked it up on gameday.
man, that might have been the biggest nail-biter of the playoffs for me. the absolute agony of the Hinske dinger, one game after Ankiel did the same thing, on a night where Jonathan Sanchez was certifiably awesome and yet the offense couldn’t do diddly squat. i was basically freaking out.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
You and I both
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Try being there live
As I’ve said here before, I was catatonic after the Hinske homer
I think I would have drunk myself into a puddle of misery on $8 ballpark beers. That look on his smug pudding face. Argh.
Hey look, it still works.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
AND THEN HE WAS CATATONIC
Amirite???
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
i didnt even cheer when they tied it up in the 9th (right before the conrad’ing on Posey). I just thought they were setting us up for a bigger loss, yknow get around the Hinske HR, then lose on another walkoff.
When Posey’s ball went through and we went ahead, i thought Willy would blow the game in the bot 9.
My emotions by that point had gone so high and low within the hour that i didnt have anything left in me.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Game 3 vs. ATL
Ishikawa walk
Sanchez single
Huff single
Posey reached on E4
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you, I downloaded the “Perfect 10” feature(tte) from iTunes but it didn’t have that particular sequence, so I started to wonder if I was misremembering.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, the more that I think about it...
Your pitchers throw same nasty changeups. If the Rangers bats had one major weakness, it was a pitcher who could throw a really good changeup.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
I love changeups
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That would make sense. I think at some point, Timmy just started spiking the rest of the staff’s pre-game meals with pureed changeup. Or maybe Righetti locked them in a room somewhere with Ludovico Technique eye clamps and played the changeup grip over and over and over.
Barry Zito went to his happy place. The rest of them absorbed the lesson and became productive members of our law-abiding, swingthrough-inducing society.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
Zito's Happy Place
His new morning show!
“Have you ever dreamed about coloring in Brian WIlson’s beard with markers?”
I swear that’s what he and Timmy were talking about during the last strikes of the World Series.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Not to ask you about the disaster scenario
But does the team have a back up plan in case Lee signs with the Yanks?
Trade for Greinke?
That's the big question.
I think they’re going to go after Greinke with/without Lee. Not having a quality #4 starter really hurt in the playoffs. It extened (and ended) series.
They’ve got some good talent in the farm to trade for him, but KC is asking for a lot. Part of me worries if Greinke has the mental makeup to pitch in pressure situations. He’s never had to.
But to answer your question, I think if Lee signs somewhere else, they will push hard for Greinke. If they can’t get him, they will probably trot out Wilson, Lewis, Hunter, Holland, and Feldman as their starters. So yeah, Lee is the #1 priority.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
The pressure thing is overrated, IMO.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Normally I agree
But Greinke has legitimate mental issues.
like the whole “sanchez is a headcase” thing everyone said about him?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
No, Greinke has been actually been diagnosed with Social Anxiety disorder and it threatened to derail his career at one point.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t he also an Aspie?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Hasn’t been diagnosed but it seems pretty likely.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Also a Gray hybrid
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
not one of our pitchers went into the playoff with any experience, the only one that did, got left off the roster (zito).
bumgarner is 21 and still (sorry to say) gunned ’em down.
experience is overrated
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
From someone who has suffered from anxiety issues in the past
pressure issues can flare up, and it can be terrifying.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
i wasnt aware of Greinkes history.
hes a great pitcher, so eventually someone is gonna have to find out for themselves
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Xanax and Celexa!
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by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
yeah i dont think you’d be pitching after taking a xanax. i took one a few years ago and passed out an hour later all fuzzy-headed
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Bumgarner doesn't know how to be nervous...
But remember, even Timmy choked up that first game. These guy are still human, nerves play a part in how they perform.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
Timmy totally choked his first time. 9IP, 2H, 14K, 96 Game Score, higher than Halladays no hitter.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
i think he meant first WS game
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should have put it in caps
he said “that first game” so i was ribbing him a little in case he forgot, Timmeh don’t need no playoff experience!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
IIRC Daniels said they're keeping him as a closer
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waste of a pitcher, if you ask me.
Feliz pitched two innings without breaking a sweat in Game 5
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I'd move him to the rotation
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is there a user GoBrooks too? with two O’s in Brooks, or is that you the whole time?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm the only one
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oh ok. thought there was a GoBrooks too, but maybe its my head filling in the word with the extra O. i need to change my username, everyone gets me confused with giantsfan4life or something like that
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
You should change it to something with ‘izzle’ in it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
There's been talk of that
but Feliz was given the opportunity in spring training and didn’t do too well. I think he’ll get a shot next year, no doubt.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
well, do you take your chances with starting him and taking a higher risk of injury (he hasn’t thrown 9 innings in a while now) or do you stick with him as a closer who can go 2-3 innings?
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Strings were pulled
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Tim Lincecum, at least, is a pitcher who thoroughly thrives on deception, and guys like that tend to make hitters look “impatient.” His changeup, in particular, looks like a nice meaty fastball as it travels towards the plate, and then at the last moment it drops into the fifth dimension and leaves talented, patient hitters taking hacks into the void.
Cain just tends to induce weak contact through some sort of mysterious voodoo, but Sanchez and Bumgarner both also have some nasty breaking balls.
So, basically, when we saw Texas (and Philly, and Atlanta) swinging at pitches outside the zone, they were swinging at pitches that were right in the zone. Until they weren’t. ;)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Addendum: it’s not like good hitters don’t slide into extended bouts of hackery at bad times (see: Pat Burrell). I wouldn’t be shocked if some of the Rangers hitters had gotten nervy at times in the WS; I saw bad at-bats here and there from both teams. But I also saw a lot of loud outs, close calls, and of course, absolutely diabolical pitches.
Credit both teams for playing the game right. It just happened that over a small sample size, one set of guys played it a little right-er.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yup, 100%.
If there’s any way to lose a World Series, it’s the way the Rangers lost. There wasn’t really a whole lot of “What if’s”. The only one I could think of is had Lee not struggled in Game 1. I’ll say that TCU being #3 in the country right now has eased some of the pain.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Saturday’s performance surprised me, what with their steamrolling everyone before that.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
It was more of a mental lapse.
They were up 40-21 with less than 10 minutes in the game, and were about to score a touchdown.
They just had a 5 minute stretch of brain dead football. And don’t sleep on SDSU. Their 2 losses were due to a terrible call against them (BYU), and a 50 yard TD pass in the final minute (at Missouri). Hoke can coach some offense.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 16, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
i didnt even know SDSU was a BCS team. then again, i dont follow college football closely
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
True
I remember one of my friends had SDSU at #25 early in the season. I thought it was strange, then I looked and saw, hey, they’re actually pretty good. But after the Utah game, I didn’t think anybody could touch TCU. Maybe the team thought the same thing.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
As a Stanford grad,
I am thoroughly rooting for you guys to get into the BCS title game vs. Oregon so that if Stanford has the good fortune to get into a BCS game, it’s the Rose Bowl.
lolz
Watch Cal win this Saturday and screw your guys’ Rose Bowl hopes =P
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
It’s certainly possible. I think there are more serious problems with hoping for a Rose Bowl, like the fact that Auburn has to lose.
I’d say it’s more likely than not that Auburn loses.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I'd put the chances at 100%
it just might take a couple of years for the NCAA to make it official =P
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stanfurd sucks
That disclosure made, I think the BCS is garbage. It’s bad enough (but understandable) that Oregon might play elsewhere, but not having a Pac-10 team at all in the Rose Bowl (which seems to be possible even if the furd wins out) is dumb, and makes me wonder why they even bother with bowl names any more.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
It just pisses me off that the Rose Bowl is the ONE FREAKING BCS BOWL WITH TRADITIONALLY TIED WITH TWO TEAMS. WHY THE FUCK MIGHT IT NOT END UP WITH BOTH THOSE TEAMS? /end rant
I mean, I’d probably even rather see Cal in the Rose Bowl than TCU/Boise State. Obviously I’d be rooting for them to lose, but still.
absolutely
All the Pac-20 hyperventilation made me cringe too. So, you have two divisions and a conference championship. That’s what the damned Rose Bowl used to be, bascially, a two-division superleague with a Jan. 1 championship game.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Where’s the game? Berkeley or Palo Alto?
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
yep that’s definitely going to be a problem for them. Maybe this game can make Luck shoot down the boards and fall to the Niners?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
could happen anyways. if it happened right now, niners are lined up to pick 4th, and Detroit and Dallas already have QBs so they won’t pick him. Buffalo, i dont know if they have a QB they believe in already.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
actually, with the niners win on sunday, they might not be lined up for 4th pick anymore. that was before this past weekend
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Buffalo, i dont know if they have a QB they believe in already.
Ryan Fitzpatrick and Trent Edwards are not exactly setting the world on fire.
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Edwards is in Jacksonville now
The Bills waived him
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maybe the Bills distrust Stanford QBs
after Edwards.
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Maybe
Taking Jake Locker and him be a bust seems pretty Bills-y
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Oh, Jake Locker is my absolute DNW QB in this year’s draft class. He’s never been durable, he’s never completed 60% of his passes, and he’s just exactly the kind of guy who gets overhyped and then five years later people are like “Well there were all kinds of red flags with him.” He has potential. I seriously doubt he will ever realize it.
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If the niners take Locker I hope it’s taking Patrick Peterson in the first and by chance Locker somehow falling to them in the second a la Taylor Mays
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Yeah I think he's a bust
I think his speed gets overhyped and overshadows the fact that he’s not a great passer
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The thing is, it seems like the entire team has a vendetta against him. The O-Line gives him like 1/2 a second worth of protection. His Receivers don’t catch the ball. They let it hit their hands and let it go. And yet he still somehow manages to find a way to win games. Seems like someone I’d be willing to take a flyer on
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
He does have upside
But he also has massive risk. And with the money that 1st rd QB’s get are you willing to assume that risk? I probably wouldn’t be
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um...
I was advocating for hoping he falls to us in the second kinda like how Mays fell to us last year.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Oh my bad
Yeah he’s definitely worth a 2nd round pick (like Mays or Jimmy Clausen)
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i dont know that much about football…. but in the Niners case, I’d take a first round pick on anyone who can pass even somewhat effectively.
Alex Smith was a massive bust. Troy Smith had a good game, but he’s not a solution.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
W
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Without looking at the stats
Locker does kinda remind me of Alex Smith
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not even close
Smith was a WAY better passer in college.
My least favorite thing about football is when people are talking about a quarterback who sucks, and say he “just wins”.
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Shortly followed by “well he just has ‘it’”
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
"just winning"
all the way to 2-7
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
It was Stafford!
STAFFORD!!!!!!
Besides, Shaun Hill is just a stupid rule about a catch away from being 3-6.
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a stupid
now apparently recinded rule. He’s still not a good QB.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Well, I mean, 3-6 isn’t very good either.
(Just like Shaun Hill AMIRITE)
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UARRITE!
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No worries, happens to me all the time
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind Mallet or Locker in the second. I still remember how last year on NN I was saying that taking Mays with one of our firsts would be foolish, but I would be fine with taking him in the second. Heh I got heckled so badly about how “dude you’re an idiot he’s a high-mid first round prospect” now if only Locker or Mallet can fall to us uninjured and useful to our second round pick
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Oh.
Well, if Trent Edwards starts two games for your team and Ryan Fitzpatrick starts the other seven, you can safely call your quarterback situation dire.
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And before anyone else gets to it
LOL ALEX SMITH
LOL DAVID CARR
NONLOL TROY SMITH????
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Troy Smith, looked like Willie Beamin in his first game out there (without the puking). But Troy is without the long-term QB factor.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately, a one loss Auburn team probably gets in the BSC er BCS championship over an undefeated TCU team.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
what about 'em
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Sweet Home
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as much as i wanted to root for Cal last week
im hoping Oregon stays undefeated so they get a national championship game for the PAC-10. that, and i have a good friend/ex gf who attended Oregon
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
I want Oregon to go to the NC
and kick the living hell out of Boise State.
I really hate those guys.
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well, and Oregon is my 2nd favorite team
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Yeah I always found that I loved that school
it might either be their Green + Grey color combo that actually works…or the fact that they’re the Ducks. mmm… Roast Duck NOM NOM NOM
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
Oregon is an awesome school, awesome surrounding area too. Almost transferred out of CSUMB to Oregon with her, but decided not to. Was happy where I was, even if that means losing your gf.
Anyhow, yeah Oregon is an awesome place, too, so feel good about rooting for them, folks!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately I’m a Cal fan through and through. Oregon is just my secondary team. It might be because I played for team “Oregon Ducks” during Basketball camp in middle school
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
that was a hell of a game last week. with Riley, i think Cal maybe wins that game.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Anything to get Stanfurd out of the Rose Bowl
Either a Cal win or a Oregon loss. I’m not picky.
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why would you want stanford out of the rose bowl? other than the nat’l championship, there isn’t any other big bowl for them.
even a 1 loss Oregon team might not make the nat’l champ game
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
doubt it
not without a conf. championship game.
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i dunno. a con’f champ game that features Stanford somehow beating Oregon would mean Oregon doesn’t get to the nat’l champ game and neither would Stanford since they have more losses than Oregon
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
you think the same holds for Auburn
if they lose to SC?
The only way Auburn goes to the NC with one loss is if they lose to ‘Bama and win the SECCG. I’m saying a 1 loss Oregon wouldn’t have that signature “postseason” win that would push them over the top.
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i dont think i know my football as well as you, but i’ll try anyways, lol.
The only way Auburn goes to the NC with one loss is if they lose to ‘Bama and win the SECCG. I’m saying a 1 loss Oregon wouldn’t have that signature "postseason" win that would push them over the top.
but neither would Auburn if they lost to ‘bama, because if they lose to ’bama, then they don’t have that signature “playoff” win either.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
Auburn’s already clinched the SEC West, so they’ll be playing in the conference championship game. If they win that, they’ll have the signature postseason win.
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but if auburn loses to ‘bama in the SECCF, and Oregon loses to Stanford in the PACCF, they could still play each other in the nat’l champ game. all up to what the voters say
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
that's the thing
there is no PAC10 champ. game (’till 2012). And Auburn will play SC in the SEC champ. game the week after they play ’Bama
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they will if they beat SC
they already have a spot in the SECCG sewn up
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oh ok, i didnt know that. i know how the whole college system works, but dont pay close enough attention to the games/players as i should.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
that exact scenario
(making it to the SECCG with 1 loss and winning) was how I was hoping ’Bama would make it to the NCG after the loss to SC before they shit the bed against LSU
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LSU is a good team. Can’t take too away much credit
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
fehhhhhhhhhhhhhh
their QBs are not good. ’Bama completely forgot how to cover in the closing minutes. It was painful.
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I think you misunderstood
I want Stanfurd out of the Rose Bowl because I am a Cal Grad. Stanfurd = Dodgers to me.
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ohhhhh. i get it now.
i was like why wouldn’t you want the Rose Bowl?
makes sense now
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
You’ll always have those ton of Rose Bowl appearances Cal has. Oh wait.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
f*ing BCS Longhorned
The only, and I mean only, good thing about screwing up all the historic bowl matchups is that I almost don’t care whether the furd ends up there. Especially if they play Florida A&M or some other random non Big-10 school.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
World Series Heartbreakers?
LET ME TELL YOU OF THE DAYS OF HIGH ADVENTURE
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my pain has been eased. though it would have been cool to win in ’02 with the best offensive team in MLB, then return and win 8 years later with the best pitching team in baseball.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
I can't be bothered to care anymore
Someday I might go to Baseball-Reference and look at the box score of Game 6.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Let’s win it in a couple years with the 3-4-5 of Belt-Posey-Sandoval anchoring the best offensive team in baseball, what do you say?
(This may require a lot of unlikely things to happen.)
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
let’s win with the best offensive and pitching team combined!
oh wait, the Phillies already tried that this year, and it didnt work.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Dave Flemming is announcing Gonzaga-SD State on ESPN2 if anyone needs a fix
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
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it is gggOOOOOOOOOOOOnnnne!
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by sadison bummedgarner on Nov 16, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like it
Also, even for college basketball, he’s a billion times better than just about any other announcer ESPN trots out there cough Vitale cough
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
No, evermore shall it remain broken from the glory of that one deathless moment.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 16, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, and I’ve had it on mute right next to me for the last hour.
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Just saw this
/swoons
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
This is TV, right? Doing baseball on radio and basketball on TV seem like they require very different broadcaster skills.
It is.
I think good broadcasters tend to adjust pretty easily to different sports/mediums though.
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 16, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
We won’t really know how good Flemming is until we hear his “TOUCHDOWN RRRRRRRAIDERS!”
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/Papa’d
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
man is that guy terrible
He’s bad on Chron live, he was bad at the Glenn Burke film, and that touchdown call is just stupid.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:14 AM PST up reply actions
Apparently, judging from the logo of the tarp covering the mound. But something about this image makes the outfield grass look like artificial turf to me.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
let's move him to CF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dang, his throwing mechanics were pretty messed up.
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by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Preparing for his sidearming/submarining career.
Remember this play?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7925997
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
That was before he trimmed his hair, he needs to just cut it and go back to old TImmy.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
he was old Timmeh, save August and bits and pieces of May/June.
he was met with adversity for the first time in his life, overcame it, and now brandishes a slider as well. He’s my pick for NL Cy Young 2011
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
He picked up a slider mid-season and mastered it…WHO DOES THAT??
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
and if he can pick up a slider like that, his world will blow open.
personally, i think he should pick up the cut fastball, and use that along with with 2 and 4 seamers. think, 2 seamer, strike 1. cut fastball fouled, strike 2. changeup, strike 3.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
changeup? IT’S A SPLITTER /stupid Fox announcers
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
well
a splitter is a type of changeup, so there’s that
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
There’s a bunch of different change up grips, like there are a bunch of different fastball grips
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
same arm action as a fastball
comes out much slower with way different movement. Appears at first to be a fastball to the batter till it falls off the table
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Change-ups don’t fall off the table. Well, some of them do, but they certainly don’t have to. They’re about speed changes – they’re held deep in the pitcher’s palm in order to create more friction, which causes the ball to move slower.
Spltters are about the drop. The grip creates a ridiculous amount of topspin which causes the ball to drop. The result, in a general way, is similar to that of the changeup, but it’s a completely different pitch.
I mean, have you ever heard anyone describe the splitter as a type of changeup? I haven’t. If anything, it’s sometimes described as a type of fastball.
have you seen X-Mo on Timmeh’s changeup? almost ZERO rotation on the ball, as if thrown gripped in the palm
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
but, i wasn’t a pitcher, just the way it has zero rotation on it, makes it look like its gripped a certain way
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
wiki (i know...)
claims it’s a forkball, and it certainly matches the description
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Where?
On Lincecum it says “His repertoire includes a two-seam fastball that he throws at 90-93 mph, a changeup he grips like a splitter, a curveball notable for its sharp breaking action, a slider and a four-seam fastball that reaches speeds in the mid-nineties.”
In the article about splitters it calls it “a variant of the straight fastball”, and doesn’t mention any similarity to the changeup.
In the article about pitches is classifies the splitter as either a fastball or a breaking pitch.
anyone can write whatever they want on wiki. I’d look for a more accurate source if i was you guys.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
im not saying you guys are wrong, just, wiki isn’t reliable at times. esp when it comes to pitchers and their pitches.
Every pitcher says their pitch is something it isn’t to fool hitters. Gotta look at what scouts say
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
anyone CAN write anything
but it’s generally pretty reliable.
From the forkball description:
The forkball is favored by several current and former major league pitchers, including Hideo Nomo, José Valverde, Kazuhiro Sasaki, José Contreras, Chien-Ming Wang and Edwar Ramirez. Two time Cy Young award winner Tim Lincecum uses as changeup with forkball movement as his strike out pitch.
But honestly, without actually seeing the grip he has as he’s throwing it, I can’t say for sure
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
ive never seen the actual grip (he tends to be a little deceptive, even on X-Mo), but that changeup or w/e has absolutely no spin to it, hence, falls right off the map
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
you find a pic on google or something?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
The term “splitter” seems so uncouth, maybe a little because it sounds like “spitter”. “Changeup” on the other hand carries a connotation of pitching artistry.
But my understanding is that Lincecum’s grip is indeed more like a splitter than a palmball or circle change.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
FORKBALL!
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Basically an extreme splitter, no? And the name sounds even more uncouth.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
The forkball is a type of pitch in baseball. Related to the split-fingered fastball, the forkball is held between the first two fingers and thrown hard snapping the wrist.
The forkball differs from the split-fingered fastball, however, in that the ball is jammed deeper between the first two fingers. The result is that the forkball is generally thrown slightly slower than the splitter, but will have more of a ‘tumbling’ action akin to the movement of a 12–6 curveball, as it will drop off the plate before it gets to the catchers mitt.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
that description remind you of anything?
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
If it had any range....
/tired joke
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
man
that WS totally justified my season-long defense of GAR
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
i wasnt a pitcher, so i couldnt tell ya with any authority, but whatever that splitter/changeup is that just falls right off the table and makes dudes look bad, Timmeh has got it goin
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
From my recollection it was somewhere early in the 2009 season where Kruk explained that it was really more like a splitter and Miller in particular often began referring to it as a splitter. But then pitch terminology strikes me as more of a casual thing than something broadcasters absolutely feel the need to get right.
I’m not sure whether this is just sloppy broadcasting, or whether it reflects the fact that pitch types aren’t as cut-and-dried as we think.
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
well
they’re really not, a lot of the grips are really similar, and terms get muddy. Just think of “fastball”. That term describes like 6 distinct pitches.
Even curveballs, you have a 12-6, a power curve, a slurve, etc…
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
yeah that's def. a forkball
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
which is now one of my new favorite words
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
How uncouth.
To me, Lincecum’s “changeup” (sic) and Jason Schmidt’s changeup look exactly the same in terms of the flight of the ball. Both are thrown hard and dive and tail dramatically. But their grips are very different. Lincecum’s here a split/fork/Vulcan/whatever and it looks like the ball is held as a two-seamer. Schmidt’s, if I’m recalling Kruk correctly, was a circle change which he held as a four-seamer.
Part of the terminology confusion I think comes from whether you label pitches by their grip and delivery or by the flight of the ball. Absent more information, broadcasters can really only go by the latter — and really, from the viewers’ perspective, what difference does it make?
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
another $0.02...
Also, I suspect that pitchers don’t consciously set out to throw specific types of pitches (e.g., splitters vs. forkballs). They start out with basic grips and then engage in a great deal of experimentation and customization after which the grips they arrive may hover in between existing categories of pitches. All of which is to suggest that these pitch types we operate with are more broad reference points than absolute categories.
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
So his top two out pitches now are pitches he didn’t even have when he broke into the majors in 2007.
At some point in his career he’s going to become a pure sinkerballer, before coming full circle in his last years where he rediscovers his curveball and starts throwing it 50% of the time a la Matt Morris.
by non sequitur on Nov 16, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
Then he’ll dust off the knuckleball and pitch well into his 40’s.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Nov 16, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
im liking this subthread.
now if only we could figure out how to keep him alive forever…
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
still waiting on the eephus
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 17, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
palmball ftw!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
I meant hair-wise, not pitching-wise.
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
i think it’s too late, man. theyve already run with it
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
TALK ABOUT TIM’S HAIR EVERYONE!!
Your 2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Nov 16, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
thank GOD he didn't twist or break his ankle on that landing.
…….. THAT would’ve been bad. lol.
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Nov 16, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
music during this at bat
During the gameday thread for game 3 of the world series I asked if anyone knew the song playing in the background after a double Sandoval hit.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12884305
Well i found it and thought I would share seeing how it was a song played after a few clutch hit in the playoffs and added to the excitement (at least for me).
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZPiV0ZUqdRI&v=ZPiV0ZUqdRI&gl=US
Enjoy
Just say NO to free agents, they take your draft picks.
by jt_7241 on Nov 16, 2010 10:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
that link is terribly broken
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Jesus Christ. I just realized that the Jays had 139 wRC+ this year…with a .238 BABIP. That’s unbelievable. That’s more than 0.020 lower than Matt Cain’s lowest BABIP ever.
they hit ball far
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
home runs dont count as balls in play!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
yeah
hit a ton of HR and don’t strike out a lot
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
lay off the crack too while youre at it.
AND PUT THAT NEEDLE DOWN!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like Girl Talk albums are always a ton of fun on the first couple of listens, but then once the novelty of hearing a ton popular songs mashed up at once wears off, they kind of lose their luster.
But oh man those first couple listens.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
This is good regarding Nishioka (if you like the guy)
From Dylan Hernandez
Kevin Baxter of The Times reports Loney is “all but certain” to return at first base for #Dodgers.
Baxter also reports that the #Dodgers are unlikely to bid on Adam Dunn or Tsuyoshi Nishioka.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Oakland is my guess
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Isn’t their outfield set with DeJesus, Davis, Crisp? I believe Cust is a FA now too. Urban thinks the A’s will go after either Beltre (and cut ties lose with Kouzmanoff) or they’ll sign Matsui and have him DH
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I imagine Sweeney will play over Raj, but yeah
Although I think Cust is arb eligible for 1 more year
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wow. the A’s could be in the playoffs next year if they keep adding to the offense.
their SP is already really, really good. best starters ERA in the AL towards the end of the year.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
yeah really. and they have a ton of speed, too.
Crisp, Davis, DeJesus, Encarnacion, Ellis, Suzuki, (insert power hitter)
That was the only thing they lacked this past year, a true power hitter or two. They are stocked with high OBP guys; they just need men to drive them in.
A’s are looking like my trendy pick to win the AL West (if Lee doesn’t sign with TEX)
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
Cust is arbitration eligible, but the A’s can choose to non-tender him. I don’t see any reason for them to do that, though. But yeah, there’s no room in the OF – even without Ramirez, they have 3 starting OF’s, Davis as the 4th OF, and Carter coming up. Either they move Barton to 3B or they trade one of the OF.
Barton behind the plate and Suzuki at first.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
“can” “play” “third”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Nov 16, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
haha I think the plan is for him to DH and Kouzmanoff to play 3rd, if the A’s do nothing else this offseason, but if the A’s sign a DH only guy, Kouz is gone and Encarnacion goes to 3rd.
Basically, Beltre seems like a very, very good fit for them
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
The A’s need power hitters. Unfortunately, Cust and Encarnacion hit 16 and 21 HRs in 2010, so both really should be in the lineup in some form.
If they add a true power hitter, they win the AL West. They are stocked with pitching, speed, high OBP guys, all they need is some power to drive in the baserunners.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure if Carter can play LF
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He did start 50 games in the OF this year between the minors and majors.
They might just trade him. Trading Barton would be silly, non-tendering Cust would be a waste, and there’s no room in the OF.
Yeah I've Carter described as a future DH
but yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the A’s trade him. He has contact problems and has started slow after every promotion, so if the A’s fancy themselves a contender they could flip him and let another team give him the 100 PA learning curve
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I’m having a hard time figuring out what’s going on there. Beane just traded for DeJesus and picked up Crisp’s option, and also has Sweeney and Davis. There’s no way Barton goes anywhere, and he probably can’t play anything other than 1B. Cust can’t play anything other than DH. And Beane’s interested in 1B/DH types like Berkman. So even without Carter, it’s pretty crowded in there.
Maybe a Carter-based package for Stephen Drew? Maybe even Jose Bautista (as a 3B)?
Bautista makes some sense
I think it’s pretty likely that Kouzmanoff gets non tendered. I’m guessing he got EE as a fall back plan and will re-sign him to a cheap ML contract.
Also, I just looked up Ryan Sweeney’s BR page because I had always thought he was a decent hitter…no he’s not
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iirc
Bautista is a clankmitt in the infield.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Also good news on Loney staying in LA
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definetely. if theyre not gonna spring for a power hitting 1B, then that bodes well for their “offseason thought process”. in quotes, because it’s not really a process the Doyers take. Just random guessing.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
It seems like they still have no money, and whatever money they did have they spent on Lilly and Kuroda
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
yep. $23 mil or something like that on those two. Now, their pitching is enough to keep them IN games, but not like the Giants in that their pitching is NOT good enough to win games via shutout.
They will still need a better-than-average offense if they want to have any hopes.
by giant4life83 on Nov 16, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
oh god, i totally forgot about that part too. Other than Kuo (who may be their new closer) they’ve got NOBODY that’s any good. Broxton? haha, yeah right.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
Once we keep Huff and Uribe, I’d want to sign Jerry Hairston Jr who is able to play SS or 2B. He’s a super utility guy that has played for Bochy. Adam Kennedy is another possibility.
Next priority is to get a LF that can still hit the ball and isn’t a liability on the outfield or in the post season. Podsednik if he wants to leave the Dodgers or possibly gamble on Jermaine Dye are the two names, we could get.
Assuming Panda’s offseason isn’t looking too good, I’d want them to get Adrian Beltre or be happy we got Pedro Feliz back.
Lastly I want them to sign Brad Penny as our fourth or fifth starter assuming he can stay healthy. Also signing J.J. Putz would solidify our bullpen even more.
what
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Jermaine Dye?
Pedro Feliz?
Jerry Hairston Jr?
Brad Penny? (why would we spend money on another starting pitcher?)
I can’t tell if this is a joke post or not.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Must be a fan of the Rockies, Padres, Diamondbacks or Dodgers. That poster wants the Giants to do crap.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
i think this poster thinks the Giants FO reads this blog, so is trying to derail the team.
but seriously, every name he mentioned is the exact opposite of every debate we’ve had lately.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
He’s a super utility guy that has played for Bochy.
No he hasn’t.
Now that I’ve pointed out a logical error at the beginning of your comment, the whole thing is nullified and I don’t have to read it. Close call!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
lol Hairston hasn’t been in the league for what, 3 years?
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
He’s been around for a while, but this was his first year with the Padres.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
really? i thought he came up with SD in 2009, way after Bork left SD
btw, the OriginalPoster, if you read his post, he is clearly putting us on.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hairsje02.shtml
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
he played in the WS last year
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
I just want to state how irrationally attached I’ve become to nearly* all the members of this team (meaning, sadly, the team that was).
I don’t think I have the ability to objectively consider any of this offseason/rosterbation yet. My main sentiment appears to be “bring ’em all back!” Obviously Huff and Uribe, but Burrell, too, and even Renteria. When I see lineups above for next year that include Werth or Ramirez but not Ross, I think “how could you! after all he’s done for you!”
It’s crazy what a few games that happen to be in the World Series can do.
And for the record, I disagree that Pablo should be the first question of the offseason. There are in-house alternatives (DeRosa, Fontenot) and besides, he is twenty-four years old and had a sophomore slump that left him, at worst, slightly below average. His upside is great (and of course, given that Pablo Sandoval was a member of the World Series-winning San Francisco Giants of 2010, I am irrationally attached to him as previously stated, so any evaluation of his future performance on my part is probably useless).
The first question of the offseason should have been, what set of circumstances could ever top what we just witnessed?
*I probably could be convinced to part with Aaron Rowand for the right price.
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
I copmletely feel you
I am so attached to Uribe and Huff especially.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Joke about meaningless Burrell interlude.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
the only problem with “bring em all back”, while I’m all for it, is that you still need to upgrade your team every offseason. staying content isn’t a way to win it all again.
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Teams that bring everyone back don’t win because not everyone will do the same as that winning year. Most seem to regress.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
DEROSA WILL BE THE KEY
man I keep forgetting about that guy
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
We should also hope that none of our young guys have Cole Hamels-like offseason hangovers that carry into the next year.
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, though honestly, the re-emergence of Pablo (hopefully) would cover the slight regression of Huff, Posey will get better, Torres i dont think will regress much if at all, Uribe is in his prime and so is Freddy, Belt will only get better (or so it seems).
Burrell and Huff regressing are the only fears of mine, except both have played at this level before. Torres had a breakout year, but getting ADHD treated and reworking his swing make me think he really is this good
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
well that
and his performance last year. For the record, his career wRC+ is now up to 116. (~130 w/ the Giants)
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
yep, he had a pretty good 2009 campaign as well. should have been given a shot at leading off back then, IMO. i can’t believe Rowand started 2010 leading off, not with the year torres had last year (while not amazing, enough to warrant a shot)
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
Sabean will not over spend on big name free agents. He overpaid for Renteria, Rowand and Zito…so it will not surprise me if Sabes tries to get under the radar type of guys that can still do it and get them for cheap until Brandon Belt and other young bats are ready.
I’d take Pedro Feliz over an overweight Panda any day of the week.
Bottom line is that Sabean will NOT, I REPEAT overspend if they have to retain Posey, Cain and Bumgardner. I’m just thinking realistically and I’m wanting to prove that this years WS is not a fluke but don’t want to go through another season of one run torture games and Cain and other SP’s not getting the run support
LOL 2 WINS WORSE THAN REPLACEMENT
“we are all pedro feliz” takes on a whole new meaning
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
YOU SUCK VIL
as do I, apparently.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions
They finally put the NL West clinching game up on iTunes
I completely forgot that Jose Guillen was with the Giants.
Yeah
I had him blocked out from my memory too
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
how’d you block it out? I paid for my memory to be blocked of Guillen.
AND NOW YOU’VE ALL BROUGHT IT BACK!!
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Five Words
Giants
Won
the
World
Series
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
it’s still sinking in. but much faster every day. im really starting to believe it now
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
/hits into game ending double play
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I have to share this before going to sleep
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
bdawwwwwww
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
yep im callin it a night too. catch ya’ll later
by giant4life83 on Nov 17, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
Stealing through the night’s uncertainties, love is where they are.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Nov 17, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
new sig!
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
Trolls are like cockroach nazi's. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but the won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland. Or something. That metaphor got away from me.
now without spelling errors! (I hope!)
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
For some reason I feel compelled to point out that it’s a simile that got away from you, not a metaphor.
He was speaking metaphorically about the simile.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
Priorities by position
1. SS
2. LF
3. RF
I would be willing to sign Uribe and a super sub to do all SS duties. Uribe can also relieve some 3b duties, and take over 3b if Pablo just doesnt make it.
Huff is awesome, a great bat and leader. Belt is just around the corner. I like Huff as a 1b\lf option.
Can we trade someone like Pablo for someone like Hanley Ramirez? Just dreaming here. It would solidify SS and take the “maybe” out of 3b.
RF, just another rotation position for the flavor of the month until we need to upgrade a bat in July?
It's better to be lucky than good.
Cody Ross has a sad
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
AGENT NED, ACTIVATE!!!!
We know Eric Chavez has pondered retirement, but his agent Scott Leventhal told Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald the third baseman hopes to play in 2011. Chavez is having strenuous workouts five days a week at Athletes Performance in Arizona and Leventhal says he’s “completely healthy.” Chavez, 33 next month, has endured two back surgeries and three shoulder surgeries in his career. Recently he dealt with bulging discs in his neck.
The Dodgers are one team that has considered asking Chavez to work out for them, reports Silverman.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
That last line has me imagining Chavez in a mesh top, short shorts, and leg warmers, doing high-kicks under duress, while Agent Ned sits in a recliner and eats popcorn.
And I usually don’t imagine Chavez in a mesh top, short shorts, and leg warmers doing high kicks, so this is unusual.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
From the out of left field department
Recently read that the diamondbacks are in major rebuild move and that they are listening to offers for either justin upton or stephan drew. I would love to see Drew in orange and black by all the negatives are there. First any deal would have belt attached to it, second its a “in the division” trade so any young talent that produced for the d-backs would be horrible to watch. So its completely ridiculous it would happen but maybe I’m wrong. I’ve seen weirder things happen. Does anybody see any chance of this happening? Or does anybody think this should happen?
just ask yourself what they would want
Young, cost-controlled talent and/or prospects As in, Bumgarner, Belt, Wheeler, Sandoval… They are probably not going to take scooby snacks for them.
Frankly, the Giants are really in a poor position to trade anyone. They either have guys with so much salary baggage they are essentially negative, or they have great young players that they should keep.
I don’t think Nate Schierholtz + Velez is going to fetch much.
Brian Sabean: Sing His Praises To The Heavens!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game that seems to have resurrected itself in my absence...
totally
Just throwing crap against the wall. And I don’t even draw a salary from espn.
by Jason Covey on Nov 17, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Wattle and daubing it?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
my giants lineup
maybe not to start the year but when we hit stride
Torres cf
Sanchez 2b
Huff lf
Posey c
Ross rf
Uribe 3b
Belt 1b
Nishioka ss
Possible, yes, likely, maybe
I would like this.
A lot.
"Today, it's as if McCovey's line drive finally went through. And the earthquake didn't happen. And Spiezio struck out. And Snow was safe."
BP: Giants GM for a day
Link (subscription required for full article)
My first act as the Giants’ general manager for a day is to thank a higher power that I have Tim Lincecum, Mark Cain, Jonathan Sanchez, and Madison Bumgarner in my starting rotation. With those four pitchers in tow, anything is possible, even a World Series championship with an otherwise ordinary roster, as the underdog Giants proved in beating the Braves, Phillies, and Rangers in the recently-completed postseason.
Good thing Matt’s twin knows how to win, amirite?
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
Also
I tend to agree with him that Uribe is priority one to re-sign of all our FAs.
They could be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
I don’t see anything wrong with this. Mark Cain is the one who gets run support.
by non sequitur on Nov 17, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Adding Crawford to the lineup in left field would also provide depth, as Rowand or Torres could go back to the bench. It would give the Giants a lineup that looks like this:
You know how I know you didn’t watch the Giants all year?
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 17, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
money in the short-go nerds
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Shift-A: Need a new thread?
Also…heard about some issues between Pujols and the Cardinals re contract…would you want the Giants to pay him $25 million for 5-6 years? (not that he would ever come to SF with its hippies and sinners)
Hope this is true:
Let’s check in again with America’s sharpest scouting minds, on what they saw in the Arizona Fall League:
• On Giants 1B Brandon Belt: “You can have Brett Harper. Give me that kid. He’s got a chance to be Larry Walker. Athletic. Powerful. Good defender. And he hits the ball line-to-line with thunder.”
Maybe it was just a bad joke?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, he's like Aubrey Huff, but can't hit as well or field his position.
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s ---
Bochy: WHO GIVES A SHIT? IT'S WHATEVER I SAY IT IS BECAUSE I WON A WORLD SERIES.
No he means Brett Harper.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I bet someone was being a smart ass.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Brian Wilson at some party
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/17/photo-of-the-day-brian-wilson-at-some-party/
THE THING IS, IT HAPPENED - 11/1/10
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Nov 17, 2010 10:48 AM PST reply actions
I believe The Beard went to the party, Mr. Wilson was just along for the ride
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
subject line
Is the dress defective or do I not understand fashion in the 21st Century?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
What the actual fuck?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Dang it.
Sure, I’ll just spend 20 minutes writing a post here WHILE YOU POST A NEW LINK
by Monkeyking42 on Nov 17, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
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