Post-game thread: Bullpen falters for first time in a month
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 8, 2010 10:28 PM PDT
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PrintAh, baseball. If I do the Eternal Sunshine bit, scrub my frontal lobe, and pretend that this is a best-of-three series in which the Braves have home-field advantage, then I lose the Lincecum start from last night. Not willing to do that. There was no way the Giants were going to go through the playoffs without a punch to the liver. Wear it like a medal, Giants fans.
A four-run lead should hold up. A three-run lead in the eighth should hold up. Sergio Romo gave up two hits in an inning for the first time since August 20th. The best hitter on the team could have won the game by making just one out instead of two.
Ah, baseball.
Last night was, on the whole, more enjoyable than tonight.
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I'm perplexed
That was so un-godlike. I can’t quite believe it happened.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
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I'm going to be having nightmares about double plays and Dick Stockton.
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
“Err-uh”
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 8, 2010 10:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Saddest part?
I really did have a nightmare about the fucking double play.
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
Hatefuck is a good song
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Plane ticket, followed by hatesex?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 8, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as the nearest object isn't a 14 pound bowling ball.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 8, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as it’s his stuff, let him be.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
I just don’t want anybody to get injured.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 8, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and fuck tbs.
20 fucking angles of that homerun.
More factually . . .
. . . at least nine, compared to three (including the live original) of Burrell’s. Yes, fuck ’em.
Sabean delenda est!
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Seriously, I’m tired of him. I realize he is really likeable and a fan favorite or whatever, but he’s worse than worthless right now. Bench him
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 8, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, please
Pablo Sandoval is an over-hyped, under producing liability. Bottom line: He is an immature child who will continue to make mental errors in the field and poor decisions at the plate. Thats what children do. I never thought I would say this, but the Giants would be better off with Rentaria starting and Pablo’s fat ass on the bench.
Bochy, sadly, is a liability the Giants are going to have to overcome if they are going to advance. In short, he is an empty uniform. He will pull Pat Burrell in the sixth or seventh inning with two outs for a pinch runner every time because he read in a book somewhere that that’s what you do. Is Burrell a great outfielder? No. Is he adequate? Yes. Are you better off with him in the lineup in the eighth and ninth inning? Yes.
by jasperlamarcrabbe on Oct 10, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
To make matters worse
There’s nothing on TV to finish my vodka with. Going to watch Titanic and root for the ship to go down.
I hate Bob Brenly.
It was the sort of abysmal soul-sadness which afflicts one of Tolstoy’s Russian peasants when, after putting in a heavy day’s work strangling his father, beating his wife, and dropping the baby into the city’s reservoir, he turns to the cupboards, only to find the vodka bottle empty. -PG Wodehouse
I could use a few drops myself.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Will Ketel One do?
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by Murray, Present on Oct 8, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
metaphor alert
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 8, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear Pablo Sandoval,
Fuck you too.
Love,
groug
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Fixed!
Pablo should NOT be starting playing at all, ever at this point
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Zito about ready to puke?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
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to be or not to be in this thing.
by baybombers on Oct 8, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This sums up my attitude about the 8th inning
I’m not absolutely certain of the facts, but I rather fancy it’s Shakespeare who says that it’s always just when a fellow is feeling particularly braced with things in general that Fate sneaks up behind him with the bit of lead piping.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Sweet work Bochy
You’re bullpen management led to this.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
by marcello on Oct 8, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Man oh man this.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m not really sure what Bochy should have done differently.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Not bring in Brian Wilson?
With runners on the corners and no out in the 8th? Trust Romo, one of the best relievers in baseball to get out of that unlucky horseshit jam? That’s what I would have done.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
You put in your best reliever in that situation. The best reliever is Wilson.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Usually I'd agree
But you start with Wilson, or you stick with Romo. You don’t waste two of the best relievers in the game in a matter of seconds.
Romo is certainly capable of getting out of a jam.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I hadn’t even considered leaving Romo out there (I was already prepping myself for the lead to evaporate), but, yeah, this makes sense.
Wilson was the right move. What did he do wrong? One pitch to Gonzalez. He retired the last five batters with ease. Wanting Romo to stay in the game is the worst kind of second guess. I can imagine the venom if Romo loses the game there while Wilson is still in the bullpen. That would be like F.Rod blowing it against the Mets in game two in 2000 against Jay Payton with Nen ready to go.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
This
Romo gave up two solid hits and didn’t look like he was fooling anyone. If Panda doesn’t make that error, it’s a whole different story.
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So much this....
I’m surprised you guys couldn’t here me screaming from 243 miles away.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Yeah, that I did disagree with, and that was big. I would have stuck with Romo too.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 9, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
What we should have done!!!!!!
Castilla should have faced Derrick Lee, Affelt should have come to face McCann. MATCH UP WITH HITTERS! That is what we should have done. We have Romo to face Conrad and finish the inning. Then Wilson faces the bottom half of the lineup in the ninth. The Braves started matching up with hitters early in the game, thats what works and that is why its done. There is too much on the line for Bochy to screw this one up.
LOL no.
Honestly, Bochy can’t win here. When Romo gets flipflopped sometimes with Lopez, people say that Romo should have been given a whole inning, no need to platoon him. Bochy did the right thing by throwing Romo, and the right thing by pulling him when he was getting beat around.
You’re suggesting burning 3 relievers for 3 batters, which would have potentially compromised our bullpen even more.
I can’t get too mad at TBS, honestly I think they would do the same if the Giants hit a home run that fucking broke a tie in a extra innings playoff game.
I can however, get mad at Panda’s clankmitt, two opps with men on third and 1 out (Torres in 7th, Buster in 9th), and a little bit of bullpen fail.
I say a bit of because of Pablo’s error. Still got to buckle down, but that error did not help things.
In fairness . . .
. . . after some review, neither of us in this household thought that an error: it was scarcely a play to be made with “ordinary effort”, and it is highly questionable whether a perfect throw beats the runner.
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It wasn’t exactly the best play by Huff either.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
What did Huff do wrong? Maybe I am not remembering the play properly but wasn’t it purely an off-line throw?
It was a terrible throw, and rightly an error on Pablo, but I think there are first basemen that keep their foot on the bag and still make the catch.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Derrick Lee says Hello...
He did about four times last night. I’m .not busting on Huff. He had a great year at the plate and has provided a spark that this team needed. It’s time to throw out the thong, prohibit panda hats at the park and play some f*cking baseball.
Walk it off Giants and get to work in the ATL.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
On the subject of defensive replacements, I actually think Ishi probably makes that play…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
you're overblowing the bullpen's part in this
This was a team loss:
Burrell doesn’t sling the ball behind him during the exchange, we probably have a different outcome
We get just one of those runners in from 3rd, different outcome
Panda’s play was tough, but that’s certainly a play he’s capable of making
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I’ll be able to write more in a bit. I want to watch a few more angles of that Rick Ankiel home run.
At least Grant is here to cheer me up.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2?
I have my money on maximum torture: we squeak out a 5-game win, then play just well enough against the Phillies to give us hope. Before the hope is crushed.
by Monkeyking42 on Oct 9, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
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Oh neat
Another blown game with six outs to go.
by Rook Takes Pawn on Oct 8, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions
this is the third game that i can remember when we were up more than three and my boyfriend left to go to practice and we ended up losing. i think i’m going to have to tell him he is not allowed to leave until we’ve actually won the game
He left? Why didn’t you leave [him]?
I’m kidding. Sort of.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And Sergio Romo.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
And Andres Torres.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
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It’s never too late to get drunk. And wouldn’t you be maintaining your level of drunk?
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
Stayed in to watch this game while friends went out. Didn’t want to drink by myself in my room while watching.
I regret that decision.
That sucks.
I hate investing hours in a game on a weekend night only to be disappointed with a heartbreaking loss. I prefer to spend hours and money at a shitty bar or party only to be disappointed. Well, I actually prefer wins.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
I’m exactly opposite. There is very little money that could be given to me right now to actually go out and see people in real life.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I meant go to the bars or a party and not watch the game. Watching this around people would torture me even more. It’s bad enough getting texts from friends reminding me about how much this sucks.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
On the other hand
God or bad, a playoff baseball game can give you memories that will last far longer and be far more vivid than any night at some SOMA club, unless you get shot or something.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I don’t want to live in an America where 10:30 PM is too late to get drunk.
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by UZ on Oct 8, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want to live in an America where 2 AM is too late either.
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by UZ on Oct 8, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
RAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I blame the fucking Royals. They have now loosed Rick Ankiel, Kyle Farnsworth, and Jose Guillen on us. FUCK YOU DAYTON MOORE
by thebighead on Oct 8, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd for your insight
What does Dayton Moore have against us?
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
Well, you know where he was before KC right?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I doubt he was smart enough to have the foresight to know the Giants would be playing the Braves…. On second thought, maybe he is an undercover genious. Nobody could be that dumb, right?
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
Nobody could be that dumb, right?
They probably could
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Lots of blame to go around tonight fellas....
Romo
Wilson
Torres
Posey
Sandavol
pick yourselves up and make the tomahawk chop your bitch!!!!
Except, no, not in Atlanta.
The Giants will be lucky to play another game in SF this season. REALLY lucky.
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Shutdown Hudson in Game 3. Then Game 4 – Timmy on short rest after throwing 119 pitches last night. This is the dark path my brain is taking right now.
They could be Giants...but not really.
We’re toast? But if we can’t score against Huddy, it’s pretty irrelevant how Sanchez pitches.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Ah, but I felt this way about yesterday, believing the Giants can’t score off Lowe.*
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
The Braves know how to score in that ballpark. The Giants, not so much.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Ridiculous. This series can only go the distance.
by Monkeyking42 on Oct 9, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
There's an old saying:
That’s why they play the games.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Bullshit
The Giants will be lucky to play another game in SF this season. REALLY lucky.
Jesus H Christ. Have you not watched any fucking Giants game all year? This team has bounced back time after time; it’s been the hallmark of the season and you’re saying they’ll be “VERY lucky” to win a single fucking game in Atlanta?
There are three possible outcomes in Atlanta:
- Braves win both
- Split
- Giants win both
Only one of those outcomes mean the Giants don’t play another game in SF this season. If the Giants play like they’re capable of, winning at least one of the next two games is certainly within reason and I’d say luck will have little to do with it.
All that happened last night is that it went from a 5 game series with home field advantage to a three-game series without home field advantage.
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You forgot meteor and earthquake. Gotta watch out for those.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
“All that happened last night is that it went from a 5 game series with home field advantage to a three-game series without home field advantage.”
Forgive me for being Debbie Downer, but that’s also all that happened in 2000 & 2003.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 9, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
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Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Other than Mike Murphy and Mark Gardener
…no one else in that clubhouse was around back then.
I know we might be thinking like that, but really doubt the team is.
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Agreed.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 9, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Ramirez? I know it was his second inning but
RICK FUCKING ANKIEL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’ve been nervously waiting for his unimpressive non-ERA stats to catch up with him for awhile and…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think it was owlcroft that said
An open can of gas just ready to catch fire.
FUCK he could have waited till the postseason ended to start regressing.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
silver lining
maybe now Sabean doesn’t resign him
I think he gets tendered a contract
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Unfortunately no
He’ll probably get a raise in arb
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I'm not saying it's right
Just what I expect.
Not sure if Ray gets offered arb though
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
lord I hope not
I mean, I’d stash him in 3A, but he’s another totally fungible arm
I imagine it depends on how expensive he is
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
IIRC Owlcroft was always fine with Ramirez
I don’t think he liked/likes Casilla
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Yeah, Casilla and Bautista.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
In hindsight Casilla should've been used instead of Ramirez
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Just so.
No one in at least the last two thousand years has been considered perfect. Buster Posey hit into a game-ending double play. He is at least as “blameable” as Ramon Ramirez. If you don’t feel inclined to heap flames on Posey, don’t dump them on Ramirez. Both are guys who have played very well and helped their team get where it is. As Didactylos said,
Sometimes things just happen. What the hell.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Who was that a response to?
I was just clarifying that you most vocally disliked Casilla and Bautista.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Understood.
It was intended for the upthread remarks about Ramirez being dreadful—“Ramon Ramirez is not a very good pitcher” and that sort of thing, not to anything you said. It just seemed a convenient place to insert the remark—sorry for any confusion.
More generally, though, there is a lot of nonsense going down in this thread about how this or that player is just ghastly garbage, and it’s all wrong. Feeling pain does not license one to strike out irrationally at whomever is within libelling distance. There are some men on the roster who could, in an ideal world, be rather better than they are, but none of thim is actually awful, and certainly none of them is not giving 117% of whatever he’s got to give.
Burrell may not be fleet of foot, but he does not usually muff what he gets to. Posey usually has at bats that are at least smart. Romo usually mows down batters. Wilson usually gets key strikeouts. Huff usually gets on base one way or another. Torres usually works the count very well. And so on and so forth.
This was just one of those days when every piece and part of the one-hoss shay fell off. Bochy’s mamagement could have been smarter (as always), and maybe not having Burrell instead of Schierholtz for not one but two ABs made a real game difference. But in the end, it was a massive group failure; if there’s any comfort, it is in the fact that, except for Bochy, almost every one of the fails was uncharacteristic. (And I for one still think Panda’s “error” was another in the long string of bad scoring decisions we have seen lately—tell me that’s a play made with “ordinary effort”; and even if he does it clean all the way, I doubt the throw gets the batter anyway.)
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Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I think the only frustration that most people were feeling about Ramon Ramirez is his peripherals are much more indicative about the type of pitcher he is. I’m not very smart when it comes to stats but looking past his nice ERA and at his peripherals he walks more than half as many as he strikes out 30BBs to 46Ks and I think with the Giants he had a ridiculously high strand rate. I don’t know anyone else who can maybe explain this better but I think as good as he’s been with the Giants, his history proves that he probably isn’t this good.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Disagree.
Sure, his 2010 in SF is the result of an insane BABIP. But looking at his career, which is close to 300 IP in relief, he looks like a guy who deserves about a 3.34 ERA (I am well aware that actual ERAs are not indicative per se, but the number is a convenient scaling factor for performance levels). His K/W ratio, usually a decent leading indicator, is 2.324 (career, excluding any IBBs). That’s pretty good work.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Ramirez has been great with the Giants. It’s the law of averages catching up with him, not the fact that he’s a lousy pitcher. In each one of his last fifteen appearances, (same with Lopez) I was wondering if this would be the day that he finally wouldn’t get it done. Not only that, if Posey doesn’t do what he does, Ramirez is the winning pitcher and nobody has a problem with him. (although McCann hit a bomb off him as as well in the tenth)
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
he was lucky against McCann the inning before as well. All year long, Bochy has thrown lefties against lefties, but not tonight. I don’t blame him for not making a change for Ankiel, because he sucks, but McCann didn’t face a lefty the whole game.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I thought for sure Affeldt was coming in to face him in the 8th.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 8, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
He has no plate discipline and tries to hit a HR every time, so throwing him a belt high pitch in a tie game was probably not a good move
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
You can’t really blame Ramirez though, he was solid in his first inning.
I don’t really understand why Bochy didn’t replace him with many of the other talented arms we have. It’s a 5 game series, and the Braves went to their bullpen in the 5th. What is he saving them for?
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Who else? Brian Wilson
he was solid in his first inning.
McCann crushed what would have been a home run almost anywhere else off of him.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Ramirez is the best long reliever on the team*
*LOLow standards
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Ramirez is the best luckiest long reliever on the team.
I still have no confidence in the guy.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Meh
I don’t really trust Jairo, Lopez, Affeldt, Mota to go 2+ Innings either
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
IF ONLY WE HAD ZITO
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Who else? Brian Wilson
I'd rather he be on the team than Mota, TBH
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
"long reliever" is typically the worst pitcher on the team
Show me a team that is thrilled with their long reliever
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
If Jon Miller had called that game on TV I’d merely be homicidal.
Holy Hannah, those announcers. May energetic fleas bedevil them.
That is a very inventive curse.
As someone who has lived with some flea-ridden animals, it is certainly a miserable thing to wish on someone.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
I know. My cats had some bad flea issues for a while.
And those men deserve nothing less than to be coming flea dirt from their hairy bits every morning and night.
Feh.
I believe that . . .
. . . the established curse is “May the fleas of a thousand camels infest them.” (But BB is not bad, especially when paired with someone a little brighter, more knowledgeable, and more articulate than goo ol’ “grab any vague phrase floating by in my mind” Stockton, aptly named Dick.)
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
In the GDT I made an exception for Brenly, who is okay. But grudgingly.
by wcw on Oct 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they were both overamped.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
By they
I mean Wilson and Romo.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I predict there’ll be a lot more clean-shaven Giants fans tomorrow.
They could be Giants...but not really.
by esseffgeez on Oct 8, 2010 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There might be some clean shaven Giants tomorrow.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No way. The beards should remain.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh cool
Aliens is on AMC
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
That game
Wasn’t worse than the Jose Cruz Jr/J.T. Snow game
It wasn’t worse than the Spiezio/Glaus game.
But man that was a horrible horrible game.
Romo and Wilson both falter.
Sandoval with an error.
Two opportunities including Posey grounding into a double play with the bases loaded and one out.
Ugh. That was horrible.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That game was fucking horrible.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 8, 2010 10:36 PM PDT reply actions
I just can’t believe the Giants couldn’t win with the bases loaded, one out, Posey at the plate and Kyle Farnsworth pitching.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
looking at the pitch he hit the GIDP on will make you even more depressed.
by kingofthacove on Oct 8, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I was waiting all game for them to put up the highlights and now I don’t even want to see them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It feels like such a long time ago
It was almost like two different games
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
You should see it
He crushed that ball. I think he stopped watching it before it landed.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
You REALLY can't believe it? REALLY?
I think you can.
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Before the game, I was wondering what kind of improbable predictions I could come up with.
At the height of my creativity, I didn’t come up with Posey GIDP-ing in a key situation, or Wilson giving up extras bases and the lead.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Lewis was benched in Toronto by the end of the year and now he wants out. Sound familiar?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
And just had foot surgery.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I was agreeing to the hatred directed at the face of Alex Gonzalez. Ott made the remark about Fred Lewis.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
by Tay on Oct 9, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Pay no mind.
That’s just rx being rx.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 9, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
At the game, before it started
I predicted the ginats would win with a walk-off walk. I thought I was going to look like a genius when Buster came up
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Burn down the house
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
It ain't over people...
Hold tight wait ‘til the party’s over
Hold tight we’re in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Let me recount the fail
Torres: Struck out with runners on first third and one out.
Sanchez: Flew out with runners on first and third and two out
Huff: an O-fer but did have the walk
Buster: DP with the bases loaded that would’ve won the game with a flyball
Burrell: Error that cost us a run
Uribe: Hacktastic
Sandoval: Hacktastic + cost us a run with an error
Schierholtz: nothing in two ABs
Ish: first pitch swing against fucking Kyle Farnsworth
Romo: Couldn’t retire anyone
Wilson: Gave up game tying double
Ramirez: Gave up 25 consecutive homeruns to Rick Ankiel
Bork and Guillen: As Always fuck them
Missing anything?
It was a team loss
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Ross: Looks like Don Rickles offspring.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Fontenot, did NOTHING in his half-inning at third.
Seriously, can someone explain that to me? It didn’t turn out to matter that they burned a position player for half an inning of defense, but it certainly could have.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.
I think the only reason he came out was a lefty/right matchup thing
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Huff has got to show up
More than he has. Buster can’t do it all. He should have sparked the getting of some insurance runs somewhere along the way. Pablo to the bench until spring 2011. No more affectionate “panda” nonsense. Our affections are alienated.
I will do my best to not call someone an asshole in this thread
even if they really, really deserve it
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
We appreciate the effort.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
the managing was the least of our problems.
the game was lost on the field
by kingofthacove on Oct 8, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part of all of this?
We now get to stew in our misery for all of Saturday.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I have a ton of things to get done tomorrow so I can focus on the game on Sunday. Ugggh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
My wife already claimed the day.
Pictures of the kids in the morning then beach in the afternoon, then going to my friends house for dinner.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Oct 8, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
As a fellow Giant in SoCal
I feel your pain. Missed most of the last two nights due to ridiculous family engagements. God help us all if I have o listen to Berman do play by play again. Maybe I’m at fault for tuning in to the top of the 8th. Feeling like 2000 all over again….
The new Architectural Digest came today. It includes CC Sabathia’s mansion.
Do with this information as you will.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Seriously. My day may be ruined.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How many of the 5 runs were earned?
I think 3 right?
Not trying to be an ass here
But we dominated up till the 8th. We can still pitch well with Dirty and Timmy due again. This game hurts, but it is not over yet. Time to dust it off and start the 3 game series with the Braves having home field.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Oct 8, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I know and i don't like going there
but if we want to win this thing we will have to go there and win
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Oct 8, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We can split in Atlanta and come home. This shit ain’t over.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Even more
We can win in Atlanta and go to Philadelphia. Yeah I’m still kind of drunk, but I’ve had time to let the nerves settle. The Giants have mostly outplayed the Braves, the starting pitching has been lockdown like we hoped, and it’s split right now. It’s more optimistic than we usually are around here, but Atlanta doesn’t scare me outside of their bullpen. Hudson will be really tough but the Giants just need to scratch a couple runs across to give Sanchez all he needs.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
by Tay on Oct 9, 2010 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions
We can win in Atlanta. We can even do it twice. This ain’t the fucking NBA.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Like I said, it takes a little time to deal with the disappointing loss. So far, the Giants have only trailed in one inning of this series, and they took a loss. Am I nervous as hell for tomorrow’s game? You bet. Do I feel the same gloom that I felt last night? Absolutely not.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
by Tay on Oct 9, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, Matt Cain really doesn’t know how to win.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Seriously.
Only 1 RBI? Weak sauce.
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
When he hit that single
I thought the rout was on.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Definitely. His lack of win knowledge was the pivotal element in the bottom of the 9th.
Bob Brenly, if you have to come back because of Game 5, you can come back. But I no longer welcome you. I just remembered you managed the Snakes way back.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Fucking Matt Cain.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Jonathan against Huddy.. in that ATL bandbox.. color me scared for Sunday..
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
the bandbox with the 98 park factor?
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
didnt the Braves dinger us to death in the series there?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
FUCK SOMEONE OUTSIDE MY HOUSE ON THE STREET IS DOING THE TOMAHAWK CHOP AND CHANT
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
No judge will convict you
Curb stomp that cocksucker!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 8, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
A's fan trolling the streets
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 8, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
I had an A’s friend try to call me, left a long ridiculous message.
NO MURDER, please
A good ol’ fistfight, on the other hand
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Stab him. No really, fucking stab him. In the face.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Troy Glaus
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
i hope not
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Not that I'm happy he's injured
but I really hope his career is over
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty weak
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 8, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Cox said he's out for the series
And he’s retiring at the end of the year. I’m just saying I hope the Giants win the series.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Understood
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 8, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If he wants to un-retire and keep playing next year then that’d be fine.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck everyone in that last thread that was happy about the injury
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Me too. That’s a shitty way to go out.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Oct 8, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Doesn't know how to win
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Why did Cain get pulled? I missed that part of the game
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 8, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
he was definitely losing some effectiveness in his last two innings
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I would definitely have done the same.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Gotcha. I just hate seeing Cain getting Cained and I kept on getting txts that it was a shutout and then it wasn’t and wanted to know what happened.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 8, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I was not convinced of putting in Wilson for a 6-inning save. True, you put your best reliever in your most important spot …
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Pitch count was high
Not as effective in the later innings
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Wagner's done
Cox on Wagner: We’re not going to write him off, but he’s probably done for this series . . . oblique.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions
What difference does it make? We can't hit any of the other guys anyways.
Krukow: You can find me in the app store.
Kuiper: There is no app store.
Krukow: Oh
How will the ever replace him?!
/Venters and Kimbrell stomp on our souls
they have a bunch of wild hard throwing kids who the Giants’ turn into superstars by swinging at pitches well out of the strike zone.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Venters and Kimbrell have been pitching like superstars for awhile.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Their whole bullpen IS amazing
Except for Kyle Farnsworth, that guy is not good!!!!
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
Kimbrell and Dunn have great stuff, but they both almost walk a batter an inning. The Giants’ help them out by swinging at everything.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
They aren't the only ones
Kimbrell struck out almost 2 batters per 9 this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I mean 2 batters per inning
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Posey swung at ball four against Kimbrel.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
TELL IT TO CALM DOWN
that works, right?
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 8, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
so who would replace him?
i’m not really up to date on saito’s condition. would he be an option now that he’s had a few extra days?
Also
“Cox on Wagner” lol.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 8, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate TBS!
What’s up with them going through the end of the show routine with only one out. I don’t care who the executive vice assistant director of film coordination is. Announce the freaking game!
Chris Ray is not Bengie Molina.
That irritated me. Probably because I knew deep down that the Giants wouldn’t be successful. How is it that Uribe was the only one not swinging for the fences in that situation? He always tries to hit HR’s, and was the only with the sense to try to get on base.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
Why can't we lose like a normal team? Do we have to do the whole theatrics of bases loaded, GIDP, give up HR into the cove?
Krukow: You can find me in the app store.
Kuiper: There is no app store.
Krukow: Oh
Today was pathetic.
Until we can learn how to knock in runs when we’re lucky enough to get a runner on third, we’re not going to score runs.
Jeaaaggaahh
Biggest regret:
Not wanting to stop watching the game to go buy beer.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
I said to myself..
If we blow this now, the series is over…How can we really be surprised, its so predictable. Critical errors, a perfectly timed bullpen error, missed opportunities with men on 3rd, and oh yeah, a game winning homer by a worthless hitter just sums up the historical torture. I hate today…I hate this series…Fuck everything
Not sure yet
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Sure this was in the game thread but....
-Burn Fontenot when you know Wagner is coming in the next inning.
-Panic and go to Wilson way too early.
What the fuck?
Plus all the fail of everyone. That sucked.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 8, 2010 10:43 PM PDT reply actions
As has been said before . . .
. . . the one over-arching characteristic of Bochy’s management for quite some time has been fear. He is managing scared.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
That's another way of putting it.
And, I daresay, an accurate one.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Now that Gullen ain't here, everything is Bochy's fault
He handled the bullpen right, and the Fontenot thing was weird, but had no affect on the outcome. He made the double switch so he could lead off, and they brought in a lefty. I wasn’t surprised he went that way.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
There may be a silver lining
If, God forbid, the giants lose, maybe, just maybe, they would get rid of Bochy.
by jasperlamarcrabbe on Oct 10, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I really hope we can steal one in Atlanta.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Let's all pray
For good Durty to show up in game three.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
I think we all know that is not how things work for the Giants.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
by groug on Oct 8, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They have to
Atlanta still has to beat Lincecum though
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
scored 4 tonite
dont quit your day job
and timmy has never gone on short rest….ever
if they throw out the kid and not lowe, i say late madbaum start
I plan to make sure they win Sunday. If not, Bruce Bochy will get a stern talking to.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I expect you to give it your best out there.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The "Dream Team" is crumbling
Romosexuals are seeing things in a different light
Our “Savior” did not turn water into wine
Alex Gonzalez does not believe in Just for Men
An appendix would have helped for at least a sac fly
Deep in the forests of China, another Panda is slain
by ACgiant97 on Oct 8, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
God Sunday's gonna be so stressful
Game 3 and Niners-Eagles, fucking bull shit whore tits fuckkk
Hit like Berry, Score like Jerry.
Niners.. LOL yeah we should salvage the season to go 1-4...
Krukow: You can find me in the app store.
Kuiper: There is no app store.
Krukow: Oh
I don't care if the Niners lose 99-0
As long as the Giants win
well i take both very seriously
so for me it’ll be stressfull, but yes ill take a Giants win either way.
Hit like Berry, Score like Jerry.
Where's the stress in the Niners game?
They’ll lose.
Now you go enjoy Alex Smith overthrowing a fucking screen pass!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Maddux
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 8, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
D:
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I am pretty certain it's going to be Lowe regardless. He didn't throw that many pitches yesterday.
Krukow: You can find me in the app store.
Kuiper: There is no app store.
Krukow: Oh
Steve Avery
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Depends
If they’re up 2-1, Brandon Beachy. If they’re down 2-1, Lowe on short rest
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
lowe again
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 8, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Rick Mahler
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 8, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That pic is at the 'Stick
Maybe during ’82 season when Morgan beat the Doyers to give Torre and los bravos the west crown? Giants karma in there somewhere…
Some times you get beat by Rick Ankiel
Just gotta tip your cap
Tip your cap and then go and throw up.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I feel like I’m too angry to detect sarcasm right now.
Wait, not angry. Not exactly. Broken? Crushed? Devastated?
One of those, anyway.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
What does that stand for?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Oh, crap. It was in that article right after the clinch, about the bandwagon, and how fans identify with a team when things go well, and then some distance ourselves when things go poorly, a psychological defense mechanism … let me look it up. It was from the Chronicle.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Sounds like it’s from Urban Dictionary.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I am curious as to what CORF actually stands for…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
Urban Dictionary says “Cutting off reflected failure”
Seems applicable, but somewhat nonsensical.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Thanks
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I will never, ever tip my cap to Rick Ankiel.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Torture
If Giants baseball is torture then this game was the last scene from Braveheart
by Back to the pac on Oct 8, 2010 10:47 PM PDT reply actions
Except no freedom.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
How about Corporal Upham not delivering the ammo at the end of
Saving Private Ryan? So much torture.
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Oct 8, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
The Giants have NEVER won game 2 of an NLDS
this is 2000 and 2003 all over again
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 8, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i was stunned
when i read the giants have only won 3 playoff series in the SF era. that just seems so….low
The Giants won the NLDS Game 2 in 2002?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
They lost 7-2.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Nope
Rueter bombed in ATL.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 8, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
This is exactly what I thought — both years they win behind a dominant performance by their ace in Game 1, lose a painful Game 2, then go on the road and never come home.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 8, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t forget ’97. The infamous Dante Powell hitting the mound on a throw home to lose the game game.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 8, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster looks like he is going to cry in this post game interview
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
No.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
:)
Love you GiantPain
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
It’s one of the ways I cope sometimes, too, but today, I just can’t do it.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
NICK JOHNSON WILL PROBABLY BE REALLY CHEAP AFTER THIS SEASON
LANCE BERKMAN WILL PROBABLY BE A GOOD BUY-LOW CANDIDATE
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SHIFT HUFF TO RIGHT
/SOB
OH GOD THE TEARS ARE COMING
Just wait for the stories that we're in on Crawford and Werth
/Crawford signs with the Angels
/Werth signs with the Yankees
/Giants sign Magglio Ordonez
More Bochy.
You don’t replace on of the most important bats on the squad in the middle innings of a game that isn’t a dead runaway. Maybe in late innings if it’s still a 3- or 4-run lead, or maybe in the middle innings if it’s 7-1 (either way), but not otherwise unless you have a bat just as good to plug in (in which case why didn’t you start that bat?).
Bochy assumed his staff’s pitching would hold a moderate lead. We all know, I guess, what “assume” is good for. I like Nate Schierholtz, but imagine Burrell up in those two plate appearances.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Not second-guessing (I swear!), but I thought Wilson should’ve pitched to start the eighth. That was the “heart” of the Braves order and it seems like you’d want your best available pitcher up. I didn’t care if Wilson pitched the ninth in that case, I mean with the off day tomorrow it certainly made that possible. I understand why Romo went in there and don’t think Bochy was wrong… I just thought that the situation was probably more closery than Cabrera, Conrad and Gonzalez…
Romo . . .
. . . is about as good a pitcher as Wilson (this year, he has arguably been a tad better—he had a notably lower OBP yielded, a higher K/W ratio, a TBP not far over Wilson’s, and so on). My feeling is—and it was my feeling at the time—is that Bochy would have been better to leave Romo in, but in fairness my concern was more the 9th. But it didn’t look as if Romo was just hopeless and all over the place with his pitches.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Agreed
It’s not that I don’t trust Wilson, but going two innings is a bit of a stretch. And wasting Romo like that did indeed backfire.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
To be honest I was a little nervous with the whole 6 out save thing I wasn’t sure if that was a good idea in that situation. Casilla was still in the pen etc.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
It sucks
Because I just had a feeling about taking Burrell out, and then another bad feeling about wasting Romo like that.
And then, Rick fucking Ankiel.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I didn’t really have an issue taking Burrell out. The Giants were up 3 runs, I didn’t really expect them to blow the 3 run lead. And I thought it was dumb to burn Romo. Either let him try to get an out but I think Wilson should go in with a clean slate. Romo’s pitches weren’t necessarily bad either but ugh, they just need to take on in Atlanta that’s it, two if they want to be greedy which I won’t be against. But seriously RICK ANKIEL? WHAT? Why does their Royals reject come up big like that and ours just sucks?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I just don’t support the defensive replacement, ever.
I hate it so much. It rarely ever actually helps your team. Especially for your 3rd best hitter. It’s one thing to replace Pablo Sandoval or Jose Guillen, but not Burrell. A defensive replacement OF hardly ever makes a significant impact in two innings.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Just so.
If the game is, or yet has time to become, reasonably close, you want that bat. If the game is a runaway (either way), why in blazes would a defensive replacement matter? The whole idea of “defensive specialists” is a folly: no team can afford them, and no team needs them.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Yeah
The only reasonable defensive replacement argument I think you could make is if you had the worst defensive catcher in the history of the game playing.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
How would he have gotten the start in the first place?
I’m not sure any human this side of BLB could have enough offense to get a start were he more or less literally the worst defensive catcher even of just his generation.
(Sidebar: in Japan, when the pitcher is going bad, they not infrequently change the catcher instead of the pitcher.)
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I’ve never understood the concept either. You put the field the players that have the best impact on your score. Preventing a comeback by saving runs and getting insurance runs are equally valuable.
It makes more sense if you assume that the game won’t go into extra innings. There was a strong likelihood that none of those players were going to see an AB again.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
And that was the expectation last night.
The bullpen just had a rare implosion.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
"Assume"
As the old saying goes, “assume” makes an ass of u and me.
Burrell’s spot came up twice more. He bobbled a ball: that is clear and definite proof that from that moment on, every ball hit to LF would be bobbled, yes? I repeat the argument: if the game is not a runaway laugher, unless you are Jeanne Dixon you cannot know in advance, or even be reasonably sure, that you will not be needing another run or two before it’s over; if it is a runaway laugher, who cares about the fielding?
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
The thing I find odd is that while you repeatedly accuse Bochy of managing scared, your entire strategy for the late innings seems predicated on the fear of losing the lead.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 10, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
It is based on the reasonable probability that teams can score a run or two. There is a difference between reasonable, calculated concern and sheer fear, that difference being that fear-based decisions have little if any factual or rational underpinnings.
It is, in fact, fear of losing the lead that prompts Bochy—and not a few others—to turn to defense far too early.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Nah. Burrell had already cost the team defensively. Three run lead in the seventh? You protect it.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
This.
He pulled that same shortsighted crap earlier this year against Colorado by bringing in the fleet-footed Whiteside to run for Posey in what had all the earmarks of being an extra inning game.
Burrell isn’t THAT great a defensive liability and Ross isn’t THAT great a defensive lockdown player that you make that switch that early.
Bochy was terrified that Burrell would not get to a gap hit and subsequently he, Bochy, would be held accountable in the press conference.
I kept seeing Burrell, veteran of postseason / World Series glory, striding to the plate instead of Nate.
Gah.
would probably eat the pain away instead.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on.
Panda is probably a fucking catcher, just like he used to be. They tried to make him into a third baseman, got away with it for a while, but not anymore maybe.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.
I think Panda needs to be giving sub-par customer service at KFC. That’s the job he’d be best at.
by ololo3 on Oct 8, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A lost like this certainly hurts in so many ways.
But hey, look at the predicament the Rays and Twins are in. We just have to look forward and steal 1 (even better BOTH) in Atlanta. Yea the they have the best home win record, but they weren’t perfect. They’re not unbeatable there. And our road record isn’t shabby.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on.
It doesn’t make me feel better to look at the predicament other teams that are going to lose are in.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I was gonna try to say something
to attempt to make you/anyone one on this blog feel better. But quite frankly there’s nothing to be said now to make any of us happy. Only a Win on Saturday can relieve this anguish. Here’s to Game 3.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on.
My bad...
Win on Sunday. We have the extra Saturday to wallow.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on.
I was miserable when I posted last night, but today the optimism is returning. Atlanta is great at home, but that was the Chipper, Prado Atlanta. They’re just not as good anymore, (although Derrek Lee was a nice add) and they can definitely be beaten at least once.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 9, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only one of those guys is actually good, though.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
by Tay on Oct 9, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the way to recover...shake it off man..it ain't over yet.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
yeah home field advantage really doesn't mean much in the playoffs
since the series are so damn short relative to the entire regular season
this?
More comfortable with chicken
by billywitchdoctor.com on Oct 8, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't GRM want to trade him for Adam Jones?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Bonds and Morris for Jones and Balentin
It Makes To Much Sence Not To Do It
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I wish I knew about this site back then
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
"Tip your cap"
Sick of that damn phrase and I don’t wanna hear it anymore.
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 8, 2010 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
anagram?
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
POUTY, I CRAP
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 8, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh
And it’s not like there is a game tomorrow for me to look forward to, to see if they’ll turn it around. I have to wait a whole fucking day before the Giants play again…a whole damn day to think about this loss. Goddammit.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Maybe 2000 and 2003 combined
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 8, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No more Panda's
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Alcohol helps me sleep
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Oh, good. It’s 2 AM.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Being in Spain
means I stayed up till 8am for squat.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
As Giants Among Angels said at the time, it was a mega-jinx
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Also, screwthis jackass as well.
:(((((((
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
AUGH YOU BLOCKHEAD!!
we are all charlie browns and lucys now
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I owe the entire McCoven (and Solidarity especially).
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I learned the hard way in 2002
Before the Spiezio HR, I said something like “I can’t believe the Giants are actually going to win the World Series.” Since then, I have never once insinuated that a game is over before it actually is.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m now a member of the club.
Fuck me, fucking hell…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
That wore me out. I will read the 2,000 upcoming comments in the morning.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 8, 2010 10:57 PM PDT reply actions
A number line joke for tough times. (No, I'm not laughing, either.)
The absolute value of how I feel right now is equal to the absolute value of how I felt last night.
Stop stealing ideas from my mind
It was this way because it had to be. I’m trying to divest myself from this team emotionally in anticipation of when the other shoe drops. I haven’t done a good job of that.
It’s worth noting that the Giants have faced a Wild Card team every time they’ve made the playoffs in the three-division era, and have never ever won against a Wild Card team.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
/breaks down sobbing
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat
Thanks for the homer but please learn how to take the ball out of your glove without dropping it.
I think he was trying to do a fancy Harlem Globetrotters behind-the-back pass to Torres
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
We're Doomed.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
My housemate just got home and is a Cincinnati Reds fan. Time for a pity party!
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
I’m going to go watch True Blood and cry
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Giants just ripped out my heart like Russell did to that news reporter.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
The perfect metaphor
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Nah, it was perfect.
“Now, time for the weather… Tiffany?”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
rx: no, sorry. It’s keeping your spine that makes losing your heart hurt so much.
jp: the writing was perfect. The Russell actor went a little over-the-top. With material like that you underplay.
Respectfully disagree
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you want a show about vampires, werewolves, shape shifters, cat people and fairies to be more realistic?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
usually i dont watch TV after a tough loss like this
and i will continue to do that and stay away from from sports sites
When you have
Melky Cabrera batting fifth , you should be able to tame that lineup.
DEATH to Hippy Wilson ! I demand a haircut and a shave !
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Oy, that Muni back to Embarcadero is going to have riots…
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
"outfielder Rick Ankiel" anagram
KINKIER, CRUDE FELLATIO
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 8, 2010 11:04 PM PDT reply actions
As disgusting as I expected.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This one seems apropos
KNIFELIKE, ADROIT ULCER
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 8, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
There is just so much wrong with tonights game I keep wanting to blame more people….. but I’m going to stick with Posey for tonight. Damn you Buster
We got this
Braves lineup is anemic. Bummy and Durty will take us home away from home.
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
I’m afraid that crowd tomohawk chopping is going to get to Sanchez. Theoretically he should have no problem with that Braves lineup.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Don't be !
way too much fatalism in here… we will kick some ass kung fu Panda style
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
The Giants shit the bed tonight, kung fu panda style.
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No
they are weak, but fucking Goliath like comparing to an injury riddled Braves.
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Except for Posey and 5 inning Burrell.
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that anemic lineup that managed to come back from a 4 run deficit? Check yourself.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
These things happen.
Objectively, by any measure, we are a better team than the Braves.
That’s the most you can ask for.
two unearned runs helped their “inspiring” comeback.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
That means exactly jackshit right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Who is Jack and why does he keep shitting?
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 8, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mean to be disagreeable.
But I disagree. If this were an elimination game, perhaps it wouldn’t matter that we are better.
But we are not done. We have to win two more, and they have to win two more. We are better than them.
We are not better than them in Atlanta, and there are more games in Atlanta than not in Atlanta.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
They were the best home team in the majors this year.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Well, sure
That feat was accomplished mostly with a team that had 3 very good player that this team doesn’t have.
We had the 3rd best road record in the NL this year, and our team is better than it was to start the year.
I’m not saying it won’t be hard. But let’s not slip into fatalism here. Nothing is predetermined. We can win. We will win.
I never said we'll lose both games
But I’m certainly not confident in this team.
Also:
Nothing is predetermined. We can win. We will win.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I got a bit overhyped there - got me.
But there’s no reason not to be confident. We are a better team than they are.
If there was any reason to be confident, that’s it.
The entire San Francisco history of the Giants is my reason not to be confident.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Only if the sample is relevant.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I don't feel too confident
but this team has been pretty resilient (Sp?)
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Your spelling is good.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Cool-thanks
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Again, in a short series, it means very little. And the Braves would appear to have the advantage in the next game
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Giants will be about 40% to win game 3 and about 55% to win game 4 (if Lincecum pitches). The odds are still good that we win at least 1 of the next 2.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather pitch Bumgarner than Timmy on short rest. Bummy goes twice through the lineup and bring in the bullpen. Tim just threw too many pitches in game one. If we lose this series, at least our young players got some October experience.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I don’t know about you, but I can ask for a lot more.
It starts with a pony and some snacks, but it ends with the Giants WINNING THE WORLD SERIES! WOOOO!
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Jeff Weaver.
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I don't think they came from behind
…as much as the Giants pulled over to the side of the road to check directions and then accidentally put the car in reverse and went into a ditch
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
And then set it on fire by using a lighter for illumination while looking for the jack in the trunk.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Can somebody ban manabout… please….
I guess I understand if that’s not an appropriate use of the banhammer.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
by dregarx on Oct 8, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Knowing more than 80% of fake fans seems like an oddly low number for a self-aggrandizing statement like that.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s called poor sentence construction. He just has it. He can’t explain it.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 8, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He is very proud of his B- fandom!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I wonder what grade he would get if he was on a curve with real fans…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What would a B- remedial student get in an honors class?
Expelled, apparently.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
those orange shirts
should be gone for good. They are embarassing. They gave Stockton and Brenly a chance to refer to halloween and laugh together. In fact they spent the game snickering at each others “wit”.
is that the same Brenly who has begged for the Giants’ job every time it’s been open? He sure wouldn’t have any problem with putting it on.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Careful you don't get blinded by the glare of BB's World Series ring.
What’s that you say, he only won because he had 2 stud pitchers?
Uh huh.
If they do away with the Orange jerseys we'll get to see Heimy runnin' around the yard bare chested!
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
orange jerseys are not money anymore
home whites FTW
by TBRMKane on Oct 8, 2010 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Correct. They’re ugly, and now they suck so I’m not willing to forgive the ugliness anymore.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
by El Person on Oct 8, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for accuracy
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
5 losses in a row in the stupid orange jerseys
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The Giants have a nice streak of winning on Sunday, though.
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
by Tay on Oct 9, 2010 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions
SHIFT-AYYYYY i know theres proly a lot of people that are mad. CHIILLLLLLL OUT
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
fine, yo soy drunk, myh girlfriend wont come over, fuck
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Physically can’t.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
You had a rough baseball day
also, LOL your twitter account
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
i know this... cant help my dumbass friend quote dumbass shit
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Can't you delete tweets?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
not that i know of... it's sacred
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I thought I heard of some people saying racy things then deleting them quickly
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
if you use the web interface you can definitely delete tweets
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I am so empty that I’ve left KNBR on and am still listening.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
We had our best hitter on the plate...
with bases loaded and one out. Tie ballgame.
What more can we ask for? I’m sure Buster will do better later in his career. For now, we have what we have.
P.S. Can we sign BLB as a pinch hitter? I don’t think he’s retired yet.
I know you don't want to hear this now...
…but losses like this are what makes games like the Padres game and last night’s game so special and emotional.
This is one crazy roller coaster but at least it’s not boring. What a ride. We still have a decent chance at taking this series. Let’s enjoy the drama.
If the Giants had won a 4-0 game, it would not have been boring.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Let’s say the Giants beat the Padres on Friday. We wouldn’t have had the great historic Sunday game.
The Giants can feel free to have historic games in other rounds of the playoffs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Maybe it’s just me, but I’ll take 11 incredibly boring wins from the Giants in the postseason. Anytime.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Yeah, seriously
It’s not like we’ll look back on it and go “Man, the Giants didn’t have to have historic victories in any of those games. What a shitty postseason.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Do you really think this team is good enough to win the World Series?
I know the standard answer is “we have pitching”,,,“anything can happen”…
But you also have to be fundamentally sound on a consistent basis.
So why not enjoy watching them play without such high expectations?
Did anyone think the 2006 Cardinals were good enough to win the World Series?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
How the hell am I supposed to enjoy watching this team play when they are going out of their way to break my heart?
At some point, it becomes about the destination, not the journey.
That point has certainly started by Game 1 of the playoffs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I hear you. And I was crushed by this game when watching it.
But I think if your expectation is a Series win, there’s a pretty good chance you will end up with a broken heart.
Eat your bread and drink your wine in gladness.
Then win the next day.
-Ecclesiastes
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Vade ergo et comede in laetitia panem tuum et bibe cum gaudio vinum tuum,
etenim iam diu placuerunt Deos baseball.
The Giants deserve exactly what they get.
They hack at the plate, having seemingly zero concept of situational hitting.
The manager overmanages, in his obtuseness mistaking motion for managing.
The defense shits the bed at the MOST inopportune times.
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right
Don’t want to hear it.
I don’t want special, emotional drama. I’ve had nearly 50 years of those.
I want wins.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Always shoot scissors
That will get those smarmy assholes that think paper is actually effective
Deal with it. Jose Guillen has been there before.
I think it’s easier to deal with a loss like this if you think momentum is a bunch of bullshit. Fuck it. We split the first two games. Win one on the road. If you can’t, you weren’t going to get to the World Series anyways.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 8, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been over it since the game ended
I was disappointed but never angry.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL Mindy Bach
actually said “Jason Heyward-Bey” when showing highlights last night.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
That, made my night.
Night all.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
What the fuck ever to that shit.
Atlanta
lost their star 3B early in the year
lost their surprise star backup 3B late in the year
discovered that their third-string rookie 3B was such a clankmitt
switched clankmitt with their 2B, harming the defense at both spots
lost their closer to retirement tonight
got very lucky tonight
get to face Dirty on Sunday
is going the fuck down.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 8, 2010 11:13 PM PDT reply actions
Comment on Facebook from a Mississippi State grad
San Francisco Giants fans remind be a lot of Ole Miss baseball fans. Weird.
Fucker.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
Ole Miss baseball fans must be notoriously good-looking.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
As well as exceedingly brilliant.
History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 8, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
But I have no feelings on Drew Pomeranz
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Remember when I (or someone) said we're just happy to be here?
Fuck that shit. I want the pennant.
At least.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I blame Pat, Posey, Romo, Pablo, Wilson, and Ramirez.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Cam Inman: San Francisco Giants closer Brian Wilson was called on too soon
http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_16294520?source=rss
so retarded. he didn’t even present an argument as to why, and it’s not as if Wilson blew the save after he started getting high in pitches. the fact that it would have eventually been a 6-out save is irrelevant. not to mention, it’s the biggest moment of the game, you bring in your best reliever regardless of inning.
Oh, shut up, Inman.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
so it's a fault on the giants always, right? can't it be the braves did well toward the end?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
let's put it this way....
it wasnt that great of a loss when youre at a bar in Oxford, OH with 3 other giants fans
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
When Romo and Wilson fail, the "fear the beard" thing looks embarrassingly stupid
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
It’s not the most enlightened thing even under the best of circumstances.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
I was thinking the same thing. Wilson and Romo look cool when it’s working, but they just looked silly last night.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Especially on this stage
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 9, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember thinking this last year while watching Brendan Ryan and Ye Olde Tyme Moustache
go 1-12 in the NLDS.
But c’mon. Players can only deviate from the norm if they’re successful on the field? Why?
Romo and Wilson aren’t even doing something as affected as the curled ends of Ryan’s (or Clay Zavata’s) mustache; they’re just not mowing the lawn. Their looking silly last night had nothing to do with their beards.
The marketing department, and the people in the stands with the fake beards (especially the ones also in Panda hats and pom-pons and towels; try and work in a few more totems there, shaman), on the other hand, looked like fools regardless of the outcome of the game.
Also, Wilson and his beard looked pretty fuckin’ badass going all Hulkamania on that towel in the dugout. You know someone’s posting that gif after his next save.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Clunky run-on sentence was clunky.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Just to clarify...
I’m not trying to make a global statement about facial hair being wrong or about not “deviating from the norm”. I mean, there’s a long, honored tradition—dating back to the 70’s and Al Hrabosky, Sparky Lyle and Rollie Fingers—anyway, of relief pitchers sporting some unconventional looks. So I don’t begrudge Wilson or Romo or anyone else who has game to go with some kind of kooky, crazy, “look at me” kind of feature. But if you suddenly don’t have game, then the shtick kind of backfires. At least for me, it does.
Personally, I prefer someone like Robb Nen whose talent is the first thing you notice, not the facial hair. That’s just me—I realize everyone has different preferences.
And again, if Romo and Wilson nail down Game 2, the beards are awesome.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
After I left the bar where I watched the game, I saw a guy repeatedly vomiting in an alley. Like, a lot of vomit. You would think it was three people if you saw the pile. That metaphorically sums up how I feel right now.
FUCK
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 8, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions
Can only mods see this GIF?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
And the guy who was banned.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Where does it “show up” for the mods and the guy/girl? On his/her user page?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
If you get warned/banned, it shows up when you go to the homepage.
I couldn’t tell you where it shows up for the mods.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
OK.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I just warned you so you can see it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Thanks
Haha
That gif is awesome!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
oh this isn't the gif i banned the guy with
i warned dregarx with this one
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sorry
I’m easily amused.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I like this.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This is really sweet.
It even has multivariable calculus at the end of it, if I’m not mistaken.
Perfect.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
What is the ratio of the surface area of this linked cut
to the surface area of the usual planar bagel slice?
Can’t figure out how to generalize the Mobius cut. I know the surface area of the planar slice is (pi)b^2-(pi)a^2 where a is the radius of the hole and b is the radius of the entire bagel. Don’t know how to generalize the twisting about the (b-a)-diameter “twisted cylinder”.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
omg
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Haha nice! Is that The Incredible Shrinking Man?
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not gonna lie
That one hurt.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:21 PM PDT reply actions
Still, just means we need to win one on the road. No pressure, Jonathan.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
LETS PUT IT THIS WAY
already got into a fight with a braves fan, they are meh…. to say it best
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Either way, a fantastic game
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
ok............ so what... you want me to say, OMG A TURRIBLE GAME
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
yes
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
jponry, come on, i'm sorry
but to be honest, it was a good game, hate me, do whatever, i dont care, my emotions will stay the same
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Cool
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
jponry, the one comment i absolutely hate, the one word comment…. fuck it, whatever, i’m done, people are depressed, 1 game, excuse me while i cry
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Oct 8, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
appeal to the masses, great
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
That game sucked. I’ll be ready to be more optimistic tomorrow. Tonight is too soon.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
k... tonight sucked, how many times we said that before?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Sometimes repetition is cathartic.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
Oh man, PiKA, what is up w/you.
I am dying here.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
i'm a lil blacked out, but who cares
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Disagree
This was an absolutely terrible game
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
was the series expected to be easy?
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Easy =/= toying with my emotions
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I didn't expect to go 11-0 in the playoffs
but when we’re up 4-1 in the 8th, I usually expect a win
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
This is not a rationalization
but rather , an understanding of we possess the superior pitching , lineup and haircuts at this moment . Those are facts to be reassure about our chances going forward in this series vs the Braves. Hence, we will fucking win this!
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Or we won’t. Either way. it will be fun to watch. I believe the Phillies will end up in the Series so I won’t be overly crushed if the Braves win. Hopefully we can get one in Atlanta and play game 5 here. That will be an exciting game.
just saying
I don’t remember MCC being so fucking fatalistic. We can win this and we can win against the Phillies!
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Really? Are you new?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
been around since June
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Yeah, I am on the east coast still...
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
OH HAI!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
i just hate the handwringing over the next ~38 hours
i want the next game to staaaaaaaaaaaaaart
O.G. Kush to the rescue
420 that into chillness
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
I’d happily take all those bullets inside you and put them inside of myself
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The sensation was scissors and too much to scream, so instead I just started to laugh
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah, basically that was a comment just for you.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I wish that I had known in that first minute we met, the unpayable debt that I owed you
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But now it’s not a cancer ward, we’re sleeping in the morgue
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
This album was pretty much written about the Giants, huh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It does seem pretty likely.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The choir’s gonna sing and this thing is gonna kill you
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Because the hardest thing is never to repent for someone else, it’s letting people in
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Some patients can’t be saved, but that burden’s not on you
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I read that exactly when I was also hearing it
Don’t ever let anyone tell you you deserve that
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
how about non-Hospice Antlers lyrics?
So when you leapt up and nobody caught you, your neck broke
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THANK YOU
This subthread made me feel a little better. That was a freaking fantastic album.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
would have liked to have seen a squeeze attempt that inning ross was at 3rd w/ 1 out and torres at the plate. he’s just not swinging well from the right side. needed that 1 damn run – obviously.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Oct 8, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions
he doesnt bunt well enough for the squeeze
so what is the point
2000 NLDS Part 2
Ramon Ramirez playing Felix Rodriguez, and Ankiel is the new Edgardo Alfonso. Sadly, we have seen this script before and it is waaaaaay too familiar. Benny Agbayani anyone? Who will be Bobby Jones reincarnated??
Despite the overwhelming negativity on the internets, Giants fans must hold steady and retain the belief that this team is unique (the same one that guided us through this most magical of all seasons.) Have we forgotten the doom and gloom that accompanied the SD series just last week??? Lets just hope the hitters don’t develop shrunken sack syndrome and start trying to go deep when a single will do. Otherwise, we still only have o split in ATL to bring it back home and play one more time in front of a decided home field advantage…
Love the optimism
And that of other optimists here. A palliative (think that’s right) for the fear and loathing right now. Your rite, we can split in ATL. It’s really not too much to expect.
typically negative
in my approach to everyday life. However, this year in Giants baseball defies reason. My Extra Innings subscription actually panned out. I’ve been down many a dark road (Candy Maldanado ‘87, @ game 3 for 5:04pm in ’89, Dave Burba v. Piazza & Corey Snyder in ’93, Dustiny in ’97, Trachsel in ’98, shawn estes & armando rios baserunning brainfarts in ’00, ’02, Felipe & Cruz in ’03, Bonds……) but this year is different.
I trashed my Bay Area family and friends for retaining hope tonight. But for some reason optimism is calling me back to the cause. I feel that our Magic is being tested, and the Magic Tree is being shaken to rid itself of all pests and scavengers who have been feeding themselves from the fruits of the G’s success this year. More Schierholz, less Guillen. Let the essence of Ginats baseball breathe clearly…
Lets just hope the hitters don’t develop shrunken sack syndrome and start trying to go deep when ansingleout will do
"Buster Posey" anagram = OYSTER PUBES
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 9, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Should have known better...
…than to come here for hope and/or optimism. I wanted to read something about how we’re still “in this thing.” Sigh… This shit is depressing.
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Oct 8, 2010 11:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It's not impossible
OPTIMISM!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
THERE IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF MAGIC INSIDE
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
THERE’S MAGICK INSIDE
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 8, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
hudson going on sunday
followed by low on monday???
they are done…finished…its over charlie
just as well
this way i can start with the….FIRE SABEAN AND BOCHY….much earlier
Now THAT'S optimistic...
If you think anything will change with how the FO manages and evaluates talent you are sorely mistaken. They’re still going to fill the roster with crapshoot players coming off bad years hoping to revitalize their careers or with junk players who outperformed the previous season.
I can show optimism during the season, but have absolute pessimism regarding offseason rosterbation.
We can do a best of versus the Braves!
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Oct 8, 2010 11:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
in the next game...i want a bad call to go against the giants
so bochy can get his dumb ass kicked out of a game
panda is fat, stupid, has hands of stone, and right now, no biz being on a major league roster
and the frackin pen returned to its early season form…with their hate towards cain
cain needs to beat the shit out of the lot of them
One at a time
so bochy can get his dumb ass kicked out of a game
Bochy hasn’t really done anything exceptionally wrong so far. In fact, depending how involved he was in the roster decisions, he’s been quite fine.
panda is fat, stupid, has hands of stone, and right now, no biz being on a major league roster
Right, right, absolutely wrong. Sandoval is better than Renteria or Fontenot.
and the frackin pen returned to its early season form…with their hate towards cain
They are what they are, which is an above average bullpen. Sometimes bad things happen to good bullpens.
cain needs to beat the shit out of the lot of them
I cannot in good conscious endorse this plan.
One mistake Bochy made
was bringing in Fontenot for a half inning. Other than that, he’s been fine
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Ah, that too
He over plays the defensive subs
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Go reds? oh that's right, nobody cares
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
You’ve had a rough day of baseball-watching, mang.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 8, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i've had a rough day at "life"
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Nope
I will stand by my opinion that this team is more talented in every way than the braves and we got this heading into ATL. I will leave the doom and gloom shit for you guys…
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
I agree the Giants are the better team, with all the Braves’ injuries and all. Still, the series could easily go either way. Several decades of history have made me pessimistic about the end result.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the Fresno Grizzlies.
I understand
we haven’t won shite for a looooong loooong time. But that is neither relevant nor salient to the fact we are better than ATL at the moment.
Playoff is a crap shoot anyway, but I am sure won’t be to one going into it with a defeatist frame of mind. It’s cop out to be fatalistic and pessimistic so the a potential lost won’t s ting as much .
Fuck that, I believe in this team until somebody send us home
look, it's CashMonay , bitches! you down with da O.P.P... Cash does, give it up !
Optimism in Numbers
Giants’ odds of winning Game 3: ~40%
Giants’ odds of winning Game 4: ~55%
Giants’ odds of winning Game 5: ~52%
Probability of winning one of the next two games: ~76%
Probability of winning both Game 3 and Game 4: ~22%
Probability of winning the series: ~48.5%
Yes, Game 2 sucked, but even with the Braves having homefield advantage, the Giants are still almost as likely to win the series as they are. This is all that matters. I know history means a lot to us, but it means nothing as far as the actual game being played. None of these players were on the team the last time the Giants were in the playoffs, only the uniforms are the same.
If you disagree with this, then you should put money on the Braves.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 8, 2010 11:50 PM PDT reply actions
Thanks
Now post the same numbers assuming the Giants won tonight’s game. How much did it change the odds?
Assuming Lincecum still starts Game 4
P(winning one of next 3 games) = P(W) + P(LW) + P(LLW)
P(winning one of next 3 games) = 40% + 33% + 14% = ~87%
So yes, it’s approximately a 40% shift. I didn’t say that it didn’t suck, only that we do in fact have a chance going forward.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 9, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
The odds of the Giants going LLW are actually 0.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
This was if the Giants won today.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Watched this one from a sports bar in Santa Monica
Freaking bitter Dodger fans were cheering the Ankiel homer.
Well… that one sucked. But we’ve still got good chances moving forward. I still think we’re the better team. And I think we’re perfectly capable of winning on the road.
Go Giants!
I laughed.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Statements I Knew Would Come Back to Bite Me in the Ass, Part Bleen
Bottom of the 10th, Rent gets aboard, Torres sacrifices him to 2nd, and suddenly Wagner pulls an oblique and is out of the game. I turn to my friend and say, “If the Giants can’t win here, with a man on second, one out, the Braves unhittable closer out of the game and a cold Kyle Farnsworth pitching….then I don’t know.”
Also, since he bizarrely burned Fontenot for a half-inning of defense, what the fuck was Bochy planning on doing if Freddy had been unable to field in the 11th inning? Was groug’s dream going to come true with Nate at 3rd?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Probably Huff at 3rd, Travis at 1st
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Ross at 3rd, Lowry to LF
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 9, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
(and Uribe to 2nd)
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I don't blame Wilson for this
I blame Bochy for putting him in the 8th inning for a 6 out save. He has a very good bullpen and could have used it.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He used his best reliever in the most critical situation
which is exactly what you should do
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 9, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
What would have made it critical? It was runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 9, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
But a 6 out save? Teams don’t do that when they have a good bullpen.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The Giants have a good bullpen and there were certainly other options there. That doesn’t mean that using Wilson was a bad decision. The fact is, Wilson threw a bad pitch and Gonzalez hit it. That’s not Bochy’s fault.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 9, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
The notion of a “save” is a forced one. Too often managers don’t put their best reliever in because they’re managing “for a save.” I’d rather see Bochy throw WIlson out there for the highest leverage situation in the game, and if need be and he’s too tired to pitch the ninth (which is probably not the case, as was shown tonight – he was better in the ninth), you have Casilla who can come in to mop up.
Unclear on the concept? There's no rule that says Wilson ahd to stay in for 6 outs
They brought in the best of their good bullpen in the most critical and high leverage situation. That was the most difficult situation of the game; coming in with inherited runners. Wilson was the most qualified of the relievers to hand the ball to.
If he gets out of that jam and is spent, any of the other relievers could have been brought in to handle a clean 9th
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This is Bochy
We know he was in to get 6 outs.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He should have brought in Affeldt to face McCann and Cabrera, after Romo gave up the hit to Lee. McCann is an excellent slider hitter, and Melky Cabrera is better from the left side than the right.
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Oct 9, 2010 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Somehow . . .
. . . I just knew that leaving him off was going to come back and bite them. Extra relievers are usually much more useful than extra pinch hitters.
(And if they’d had the with to let Sandoval catch in the bullpen for a couple of weeks, they would have had no need to take Whiteside; but even so, they could have better done without Rowand.)
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This
Whiteside is a wasted roster spot, and I too would like to have seen Runzler brought in to face Cabrera.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
I was just . . .
. . . re-reading Tom Tango’s opus The Book, and seeing where they demonstrated clearly with numbers not available in such detail back in my day exactly what I said (in writing) 25 or 30 years ago: the platoon advantage gained by bringing in a pinch hitter is wiped out, almost exactly, by the disadvantage of bringing in a cold hitter off the bench; but the platoon advantage for pitchers is quite significant. They weren’t about to pull Cabrera, and getting a LHP advantage would have been nice.
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Since I wasn’t on the thread tonight, did anyone else think Wilson should have IBB’d Gonzalez to load the bases and create a force play?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I don’t remember anybody, but the thread was amped and I was having to shift-A at times just to keep up.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Does the Panda have ADHD?
I blame his error for this loss. He is just too amped up all the time and thus rushes both his PAs and defensive plays.
I would very much like to see Pablo replaced by Fontonot in Sunday’s starting lineup.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 12:33 AM PDT reply actions
you are gonna see rentawreck at ss
uribe at 3rd and fontenot at 2nd
xrays for freddie were negative…but his hand is hurting something fierce
Good
I think that is likely our best lineup anyway right now.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Talking positives:
How cool was Renteria’s bunt?
And how terrific was Cain before he unexpectedly got Cained?
great bunt
but did you know that bringing in rentawreck meant that only whiteside was left on the bench????
THATS IT
BOCHY PULLED A DOUBLE SWITCH WITH FONTENOT….THEN FUCKING LIFTED HIM FOR A PINCH HITTER
THATS ALMOST AS GOOD AS DOOFUS LETTING GARDNER PH FOR HIMSELF
BOCHY IS A FUCKING TOOL
HE WAS A FUCKING TOOL WITH SD…HE WILL BE A FUCKING TOOL TILL THE DAY HE DIES
WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HIM AS MANAGER OF THE YEAR??
HE CANT MANAGE HIS WAY OUT OF A FUCKING PAPER BAG
Wow
I agree with burning Fontenot though, that was stupid if Freddy couldn’t come out for the next half inning who would have played 2nd/3rd?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Probably Uribe to 2nd
Huff to 3rd
Ishikawa to 1st
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I forgot he’s played some 3rd before.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
It wouldn't be pretty
but I mean if Troy fucking Glaus can turn a DP…
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Man fuck Troy Glaus….ugh it had to be him of course.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Seriously
I mean he falls over himself trying to field a bunt, but turns a double play like he hadn’t taken a day off at 3B in years.
Fuck him. Also he ruined my childhood
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Should Bochy really expected Wanger to be the new pitcher then?
Most managers when on the road do not use their closer when then game is tied. They save him for when they have a lead. I am sure this is what Bochy expected the Braves to do. The Braves decision to use Wagner then was a decision to ask for 6 outs from Billy just like Bochy’s decision in the 8th was to ask for six outs from Brian.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I just saw Community
Pretty good. Thanks to those of you who suggeted Hulu
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Brian Wilson is way overrated.
Any jackass can grow a beard and throw 94. The fact that he believes his own shit? Clinical insanity.
by chiefbluefeather on Oct 9, 2010 12:49 AM PDT reply actions
Thank you for your valuable insight.
by BoldlyGoingNowhere on Oct 9, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
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I’ve been following the Warriors since the Sonny Parker days. I’d like to get a game together with Robert Rowell and Chris Cohan sometime. I would drop Cohan with a Larry Smith elbow. Rowell might get the Sprewell treatment. Don’t be a sucker — boycott the Warriors until this ownership crew sells to someone who actually cares about winning basketball.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
48 saves you fucking dumbass
he didnt make the call for a 6 out save…bochy did
bochy decided, after a month of a basically unhittable pen….to not trust any of them, except for romo and wilson
SO BLAME THAT PUMPKINHEADED BASTARD…NOT THE GUY WHO PITCHED YOU INTO THE FUCKING PLAYOFFS
Let's look.
Wilson was fairly poor in 2006 (his first year) and 2008; in between, in 2007, he was spectacular. More germane, in 2009 and 2010, his performaces were about equal (though his ERAs—even more meaningless than usual for relievers—are not the same) and were pretty good pitching. There are not a few relievers in 2010 with better numbers, but few with substantially better numbers. (If we restrict the list to those with at least as many innings pitched, there were about half a dozen better in 2010.)
“Saves” are, of course, an artificial stat, and not reflective of much save how the man was used. But it is quite unfair to say that Wilson is “way overrated”.
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Brian Wilson's 2.7 WAR only trailed one (repeat one) NL reliever in 2010.
So, sorry, but here you are just wrong.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Sergio Romo's WAR in 2010 was 1.2
Which is less then half that of Brian Wilson’s but his innings were way more then half.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You seem pretty good at reading FanGraphs.
I’ll use tRA and say the difference is less significant, 2.3 to 1.7, with a difference of 15 innings.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Then I will add Baseball Reference
Which shows a WAR difference of 3.3 vs 1.6.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure B-F also uses FIP, which doesn’t really change anything.
tRA, look it up. StatCorner. I wonder how long it will take for people to move on from FIP to tRA/SIERRA.
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And I . . .
. . . will ignore WAR altogether; those who like it are entitled to their opinions, which are not like mine.
My way of looking at it is that a pitching staff with a line like Wilson’s (only pro-rated up to full-staff numbers) would normally allow some 464 runs over a full season; with a line like Romo’s, they’d allow 448. (That’s 2010-only numbers.) I’d say that makes Romo the better pitcher, however slightly.
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What you fail to account for is that Romo is much more suseptable to the long ball.
Yes he walks fewer then Wilson does and even gives up slightly less hits. But, giving up more HRs is more damaging.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions
"Much more"?
Over their careers, Wilson’s TB/PA ratio is .294, while Romo’s is .288; last time I looked, .288 was less than .294.
Even just this year, Wilson was .284 while Romo was .310, which is scarcely “much” more (and which derives from a very brief period—late May? early June?—in which Romo gave up, I forget exactly, but something like two or three boombas in a week or two, which of course cemented his rep as “gives up boombas”, despite his career numbers and the stats from all the rest of the season).
From the end of June on, Romo allowed exactly one home run total. (In that same half year, Wilson allowed two boombas.)
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Just look it up.
In 130 career innings Romo has allowed 10 HRs while Wilson has allowed just 5 more in twice as many innings. In 2010 Romo allowed 6 HRs while Wilson allowed 3 less in 13 more innings.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 2:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Although . . .
. . . there are problems with using IP instead of BFP, even so: Applying Wilson’s HR/IP rate to Romo’s innings gives 7, whereas Romo has allowed 10. Romo’s career extends over 3 years, so one way to look at it is as 1 more HR a year than if Wilson pitched the same number of innings. Another way to look at it is that most of the difference is the 2 extra bombs Romo yielded during his brief 2- or 3-week lapse earlier this year. In his prior two seasons, he gave up 4 homers in 68.0 IP; this year, he gave up 6 in 62.0, so it is obviously quite uncharacteristic. That is scarcely some demonstration of substantially greater susceptibility.
Meanwhile, if we look at Total Bases instead of home runs alone—since extra-base hits that are not home runs are also highly damaging when runners are on—Romo in his career has given up 1.15 TB/IP, while Wilson has given up 1.24 TB/IP.
The bottom line is that in terms of giving up damaging base hits, the two are substantially similar, neither having a clear margin, the differences depending on what stat one wants to use. (But note that essentially all “runs-created” type formulae use TB/PA, or some slightly re-weighted variant of TB, indicating that TB/PA is the chief component of what one might call an “RBI factor”.
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You should practice your trolling. That’s pretty weak.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Not starting off very well for you. 0-for-1 batting .000
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 9, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m a jackass who can’t throw 94 OR grow a beard.
by Monkeyking42 on Oct 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Just got home from the yard
That fucking sucked and I have to be up in five hours.
/pouts
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Just got home from the yard
So the key is to win the Wild Card, then.
Also, I have no faith where luck is involved.
I cannot believe they lost that game. My thoughts:
1. Defensive substitutions are so fucking stupid. Seriously, putting Nate into that game lowered the Giants chances of winning. Having him in the field helped in no way. What, was one difficult ball hit to him? Cool, Cody Ross also catches it. Hey, guess who got to come up to the plate twice and fail? Pat Burrell’s spot.
2. Hey Bochy, I’m really a fan of burning our 2nd best relief pitcher on two batters. Cool. Oh, and to top it off, let’s burn our 3rd best guy one one batter. Want to keep going? Yeah, let’s bring our closer in to get 6 outs. I usually like bringing closers in early, but holy shit, you absolutely handicapped the bullpen after that.
3. There was some douche Braves fan in my area doing the chop. I wanted to break his face. And then some Yankees fans were there being douchebags, and left after the Braves tied it saying “Go Yankees”. I hope he got diarrhea or something unfortunate.
4. Fontenot should be starting 3B the rest of the post-season.
5. That went from being the greatest game I ever went to, to the worst game I ever went to.
6. Buster :(
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if burrell doesnt make the error leading to the first run...i would agree with you
but he did….he is a defensive liability
as is that fat walrus looking dude they all call the panda
You can’t say that leads to the first run. It would have been 1st and 3rd 0 out instead, so Lee likely would have scored anyways.
And that play wasn’t about Burrell’s defense, that was just a bad play. Burrell’s problem is his range, but even then, how many balls were even hit to LF after he left?
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no....the score keeper did
the first run was unearned because of his error
you really need to stfu
and how many balls were hit to left??? just the double…which wouldve been a triple had burrell been out there
seriously…step the fuck off
Oh man, this post.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Is terrible, by the way. I wasn't reccing it.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
D'awwww.
Sounds like someone’s feewin’ a widdle pouty.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure there was at least one that Ross got to that (I am fairly confident) Burrell would not have gotten to. I just don’t remember if there was anyone on base. I am not in the mood to go back and look, either.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 9, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't the first run have scored anyway?
Without the error the second single would of resulted in runners on first and third and the first flyout would of scored the runner on third. This run in my view should have been scored as earned as the error did not make a difference since it would of scored anyway.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know that I can necessarily agree with #1. I see where you are coming from, but I think it’s unfair to judge the decision based on what happened – just because no tough balls got hit that Ross would have caught and Burrell wouldn’t have doesn’t mean that it was a bad call.
In the end, when you have a 3 run lead in the 7th, you should be able to protect it. It’s worked all season long. Bochy managed the way he has all season long this entire game – same deal with the long save (is 6 outs really that many more than 5 outs?) – the only difference was the personnel involved didn’t get the job done.
Wait
Wasn’t Nate the one that went about a mile and a half into triples alley to catch that deep fly ball? I’m not sure Ross gets to that.
Nate to RF and Ross to LF is two defensive upgrades with one offensive downgrade. That’s not batshit crazy and entirely defnsible at that point
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Plus Nate came in as a pinch runner… putting him in was meant to increase the chance of scoring in the sixth.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
WOW
The last three games I’ve gone to were the Jayson Werth bloop double game, the Anibal Sanchez 1-hitter shut out, and this.
Also, I was the only fan in my section that was pissed. I was dropping f-bombs and tearing up those stupid fucking pom-poms(why didn’t they give out the rags?), but I found it strange that I was the only one pissed off enough to do this shit. But then again I’m 16 at a game by my self.
Seriously, fuck the pom-poms. What a buzzkill when they handed me that shit. All I wanted to say was, “seriously? Is the economy that bad?”
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Why does everyone call them "pom-poms"?
They are “pompons” (or “pom-pons”), from the French word pompon.
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I don't know
But maybe because what you linked me to said:
the “pom-pom” spelling is very common and considered correct in such a context.
This isn’t France.
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Read it all:
“Within cheerleading, the term “pom-pons” is used almost exclusively . . . most commercial providers of cheerleading equipment and materials generally also use the ‘pom-pon’ spelling."
Since these were objects distributed to be used for cheerleading-type purposes, one might feel that the terminology used by those who deal with them every day would be what’s wanted. The context in which the echoic “pom-pom” is considered acceptable is, as they note, “In reference to non-cheerleading clothing and decorative purposes.” [emphasis added]
That was a mightily cherry-picked extract you quoted.
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That's actually just the text bleeding together.
He wrote “porn-porn”
by Monkeyking42 on Oct 9, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
bad luck for you dude
it evens out in the end though.
Just got home
I swear, it took forever to get out of there. I was looking down to see how far the jump would be just because I couldn’t stand being inside the park. FFFFFFFFFF.
This...at 44,000, the park gets way too crowded
God help us all if there’s some sort of fire, terrorist threat or something
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They should have airplane-style inflatable slides down to the Cove promenade!
That would be awesome.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Until a pissed-off Jose Guillen activates the slide and uses it for his grand departure
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I believe the Giants were not supposed to allow 44,000 in the park
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If the playoffs are a crap shoot, then the Giants are clearly the guy at the table with thousands of dollars in debt.
…and continually splitting Kings. Wait, that’s Blackjack. On second thought it makes perfect sense.
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by The Nick on Oct 9, 2010 1:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
NEVER LEAVE AGAIN!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I had to, I went to homecoming (lol high school)
But now that I read Ankiel hit the game winning HOME RUN, I feel pretty fucking terrible.
Hella.
Homecoming is overrated compared to October baseball.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 9, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I ALREADY HAD A TICKET!
I swear I didn’t wanna leave, I love the Giants too much. But I had a date and standing her up would be rude!
Hella.
Tell her you’re special and since you’re worth it she’ll deal with it.
Seriously, Giants playoff game.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
C'mon
snark aside, odds are the kid will have a lot more Giants post-season games in his life. Things like homecoming and prom are fleeting moments and rare memories….ESPECIALLY if it involves someone you’re sweet on
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Should’ve had he watch the Giants game then. COME ON DUDE THINK!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Dammit how could I be so dumb, fucking Giants needed me and I wasn’t there for them. I’m gonna call my date and start yelling at her and shit.
Hella.
Couldn’t you have played the sick card?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 9, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
DO. NOT. LEAVE. AGAIN.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 9, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I kept checking the score over there too, and then my friend tells me they tie, and at the end of the night he tells me we lost. I screamed “fuck” off the top of my lungs then.
Hella.
Well I hope you’re happy the Giants lost because of YOU not inabiliity to hit with runners on third or defensive errors YOU!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
So really like what happened after the 6th inning. Like I left so happy thinking the bullpen was going to hold the lead.
Hella.
Cain came out for the 7th pitched 2/3rds before I think Javier Lopez came in to get Heyward out. Then Romo came in for the 8th, gave up 2 back-to-back singles, so Bochy pulled him and put in Wilson to get the 6 out save. Pablo had a throwing error pulling Huff off the bag, run scores then runners get bunted over, then Wilson gives up a 2 run double game tied and then Rick fucking Ankiel
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
That may have been the most depressing event I’ve seen in person in my life that didn’t directly involve me.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Oh my god that sounds like torture, and then after that more torture. Like honestly now, of all people, Rick fucking Ankiel.
Hella.
And a Buster Posey bases loaded one out GIDP, I think that was the nail in the coffin for me.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I wonder if Buster’s sore ribs affected him.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Baggs made mention of that, he said because those kind of injuries get stiff and tend to bother more later on. It definitely crossed my mind.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I've said this before here . . .
. . . and I’ll say it again. I think scoring that an error on Sandoval was very poor scoring (of a sort we have rapidly become accustomed to). I really cannot imagine how that could be called a play that could be made with “ordinary effort”, especially as it looked highly likely that a perfect throw would still have not gotten the runner.
Even if one disagrees with that last, it is still not the “ordinary effort” play that assigning an error requires (by the Rules).
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Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
It was ordinary effort and the throw did beat the runner.
An error was the right ruling.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Looking at the play over again it did not look like an overy difficult play. I think any competent 3rd Baseman makes that play. He got there in enough time and a good throw beats him, he rushed the throw and threw offline.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Dammit my spelling
overly*
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Well . . .
. . . two independent observers here, each with some experience of baseball, reached the same conclusion, so I reckon we must just agree to disagree. There’s no real way to settle it.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I'd suggest two options
1 – a cage match to the death
2 – A game of rock-em sock-em robots
Ro Sham Bo is passé at this point eh?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait – he rushed the throw? And the play was close? So if the throw isn’t rushed there’s no guarantee the out is made.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
You keep seeing this and I don't disagree
But as Kuiper would say, “If you asked him, I’m sure he would tell you that’s a play he should make”
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
THANKS A LOT, DUDE.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 9, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I’M NOT CONFIDENT, BRO.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 9, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I know you're joking but
I kind of am thinking they could get a W in Atlanta not completely confident but it’s possible. I believe in Dirty.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I’m pretty confident game 4 will be won, hopefully with Bumgarner pitching.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I'm not going to freak out doomsday style after that game
But FUCK THAT GAME IN THE FACE. Seriously.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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im drunk but still
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slowly dying, one giants game at a time
I am not an Ankiel follower, but . . .
. . . what’s the issue? His H/PA ratio, both 2010 and career, is very close to the NL average, and he’s got plenty of power. That is, he has an average likelihood of getting a hit, and a well-above-average likelihood that any hit he gets will be a long ball. What am I missing?
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
They sign one of Oakland’s Big Three, it works out great.
They send out Kyle “The most hittable 99mph fastball in the game” Farnsworth, and we get BABIP’d.
They acquire a outfielder that played his way off the fucking Royals, he comes through when needed.
I mean the guy is well-known primarily for his failures and frustrating inability to coordinate his obvious talent. He pulled a Chuck Knoblauch on the mound and forgot how to pitch- in the playoffs, no less- and resurrected himself as (in our mental shorthand) Rob Deer. Of all the times for his all-or-nothing dial to land on “all”…
Getting beat by a guy who occupies that spot in the our consciousness is galling, and (as I suspect you’re aware) a line of statistics about his H/PA and FB% and HR/FB is rather cold comfort at the moment.
Basically, we’re all indulging our inner strawhat right now.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
It wasn't meant as comfort.
Just as a reminder that it wasn’t some ghastly fail. “Sometimes things just happen. What the hell.”
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Well I hate this
Being this sober makes everything more difficult.
Time to sleep away the pain.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I wish I could sleep but my knee is killing me. I hurt it playing dodgeball with the kids at work and now I can’t sleep :(
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Try watching this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c2KzJbcGA
"People are getting the message, the right people are getting it, but the people we want to further attract, or make sure we hold onto, are being affected by what we consider the lunatic fringe. That's my frustration, that they don't have a bigger view of the world." - Brian Sabean
in order to drown my sorrows my roomate and I went to a party at our indian friends place. WE WERE THE ONLY 2 NON INDIAN PEOPLE THERE. OF 50+ PEOPLE
ATL 5, SF 4: Right Moves, Wrong Outcome
El Lefty Malo gets this right.
by BornRaisedAGiant on Oct 9, 2010 2:19 AM PDT reply actions
Good article
I guess the only thing I wish the Giants had done differently last night was to have Posey take more pitches against Farnsworth in the 10th. He’d just walked Huff, all the pressure was on him. I bet if Posey never takes a swing, Farnsworth would have walked in the winning run.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I get that it's a quote, and meant ironically, and that we're supposed to hear it in Cartman's voice...
But yeah, still…
No.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Muy Crudo
I’m awake now… My head is pounding. I just remembered why I overindulged myself in beer. Fucking A… To forget our mishap. oh well, off to my coffee.
I didn’t say farewell to all my friends in and around sec 108 (and the FC bar), so bring it on home G’s. See everyone on Wed (it is Wed game 5, right?).
I’m off to the land of no internet for the next couple of days. Gary’s Place in Grass Valley for Sunday’s game Gold Country McCoven.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
It’s been almost 12 hours since the game ended. I couldn’t sleep. And I’m still pissed off. I hate the playoffs.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 8:42 AM PDT reply actions
Fuck last night. The atmosphere was amazing. The crowd was amazing. My ankle was not - I got so damn excited when Burrell hit that HR that I jumped for joy, and landed right on this guy next to me’s foot – totally rolling my ankle. FUCK.
I didn’t even make it through the game – I had to start trying to make my way home in the 6ht inning…
I got home in time to want to break my television. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
RUB SOME DIRT ON IT
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Ice ice baby, and elevate
get x-rays if it gets worse
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I like games in which we win better than games in which we lose.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Look, last night sucked, but these two teams are evenly matched:
They’ve both scored 5 runs in the series.
They’ve both hit one home run in the series.
They’ve both scored in 3 of the 20 innings so far.
This series is going five games. And Game 5 is here. As long as they Giants don’t take the field dressed as creamsicles, they’ll be OK.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I think my biggest fear is how much better the Braves seem to be at Turner Field. Yeah, we’re evenly matched when we’re at home and they’re on the road so far, but how about when the games are being played in Atlanta? Will we still be evenly matched?
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll invoke the the Latos Principle here. Both teams are very different than they were for large chunks of the year, so season-long records like that can be misleading.
We still have a ~48% chance of winning this series. Any team can beat any other team two out of three.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s true. It’s good to take a step back and look at the rest of the series like that, but man, it really hurts to give away such a winnable game in the playoffs.
Looking at the recent history of Giants’ postseasons isn’t helping, either.
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
giants have one big handicap
and his name is bruce bochy
I don’t think you should underestimate Bobby Cox.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs analysis
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/nlds-game-two-review-san-francisco/
Pressing point:
Sergio Romo came in to pitch in the top of the eighth and promptly gave up singles to Derek Lee and McCann. Romo was still a good choice, as he is a dominating strikeout pitcher who avoids walks well and whose flyball tendencies are offset by the nature of the park. Bruce Bochy also made the right call to bring in closer Brian Wilson for a two-inning save at this point. The leverage index (LI) was as high as it had been all game — Wilson’s pLI for the game ended up being 2.59 — and that is the best way to maximize a relief ace’s outings. It didn’t work out, but it was the right decision.
Last night: The gift that keeps giving
I slammed the freezer door last night when I was getting some ice after the game….Apparently, the paprika container’s top wasn’t on too tight…
I just opened the freezer…
It looks like Jackson Pollack got a hold of some red paint and had a field day inside of my freezer…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 9, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions
Keeps it fresher, longer.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
One of my ex-girlfriends was a chef
She always kept all of her herbs/spices in the freezer to keep them fresh….I followed suit…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 9, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Bochy only made one mistake in this game and it was putting in Fontenot at 3rd on a double switch and then taking him out for Renteria because Wagner was coming in, making it so there were no more infielders. Plus I think everybody in the ballpark knew that Wagner was coming in because the pitcher before him threw 2 innings and he was done. Besides that Bochy just had bad luck and me at the game.
Man, so this is what it feels like to watch Game 6 in person
When the game got tied up, I had flashbacks of Game 6. Then Troy Glaus came in and I knew it was all over when I saw that name.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The worst part is that double play was really not the right decision, even though it worked out so well for the Braves.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
YOu know what
Maybe this was a good thing for Giants fans. The Lincecum game was fun (understatement) but judging by the crowd after the game, you’d think we won the WS. I saw the same thing after Game Five, when we absolutly WHOMPED Anaheim and we (this includes me) simply KNEW we were going to win. And, well, we all know how that turned out.
Cliché as it, is, it ain’t over ‘til it’s over. Even we can forget that sometimes.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 9, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
This just feels a little too much like 2003. Dominant game 1 pitching performance (even a 1-0 shutout!), then 3 soul-crushing losses after
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
I keep making that comparison in my head…
I guess the Braves are going to win the World Series, huh?
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 9, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Hah. No.
Phillies stroll in to the World Series. I don’t know if they win, but I don’t see the Braves, Reds or Giants beating them in a seven game series.
Oh, we did. It only made the rash worse.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Did anyone else laugh when the TBS dorks were saying how well the relationship between Huff and Burrell has worked out this season? My wife and I were rolling on the floor…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 9, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions
Haha yeah, I pointed that out in the GDT, that was really funny. HRAWS!
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Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 9, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Just another Giants' postseason special
My thoughts on last night…
I am really not that upset about the bullpen shitting the bed, those things happen…The pen had been lights out for so long, they had to regress at some point. Better last night than a game 5 or game 7.
The scouting report on Alex Gonzalez obviously says he can’t hit the high fastball. They went to the well one too many times on that one. I sure as hell knew a high fastball was coming, I am sure Gonzalez did as well…
I am not even really pissed at Bochy or Pablo.
Torres apparently can’t hit a breaking ball from LH’ers when he is hitting RH. He looked like Aaron Rowand up there against the slider.
There is one guy who I am pissed at. But, I am not going to say it, because he doesn’t deserve it. But, in the biggest spot of his young career, he failed miserably. That was horrible. I still can’t believe he didn’t come through there.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 9, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions
re: the unmentioned…a question might be…what are reasonable expectations in terms of the % of time a good hitter should get the Sac Fly or better in that situation? At least some of the time even a good hitter will strike out or ground out in that situation. I have to believe his conversion rate has been very high this year. So he just needs to work on his timing ; )
That was a frustrating at bat, but I’m inclined to cut him a lot of slack. The top 3rd of the Giants’ order has been a pretty big disappointment so far (SSS). His timing sucked, but if the top 3rd eked out a little more production, the landscape may have been different.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Nah.
He’s a True Giant now, signed up for years of futility. That was his John Franco moment (in Game 2, of course!).
I am pretty sure
League average is between 50-60%. So, a good player would be expected to do better than that.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 9, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely
Speaking of which….What are we as a team this series? 0 for 5? 0 for 6?
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 9, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
F.
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
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