Giants/Braves Series Preview Preview
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 PM PDT
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PrintLook, I’ll come clean. In 1993, I was more interested in listening to Helmet and Kyuss than I was interested in baseball. I remember reading the standings in the Sporting Green every morning, and I vaguely remember watching the lead shrink and shrink and shrink, but I’m not sure if I saw a single game that year. My distaste for the Braves doesn’t have a lot to do with 1993, though I can certainly empathize with those who lived through it.
My distaste for the Braves is rooted in a couple of things:
- They’ve been good for several decades now. When their franchise-type catcher gets old, they put an ad on Craigslist and get another one within a week. When they give a big deal to an ex-Oakland ace, it works out. When they get rid of Andruw Jones, he craters. When they keep Chipper Jones, he just puts up fantastic season after fantastic season. They’ve had two seasons under .500 in the past twenty years. Seriously, that’s a bunch of nonsense. What a bunch of bourgeoisie swine. Spread it around, you jackals.
- The Tomahawk Chop. Remember when everyone was up in arms about the vuvuzela noise in the World Cup? So, so annoying. Yet I would rather listen to someone hum the melody to "Mambo No. 5" on a vuvuzela for seventeen hours straight while I tried to pass a kidney stone in the back of a garbage truck that had video of Scott Speizio’s home run in 2002 on a non-stop loop while my feet were in Kleenex boxes filled with tarantulas and A.J. Pierzynski’s toenail clippings if it meant that I didn’t have to listen to the Tomahawk Chop one more time. Truth. I would allow players to gamble openly between innings if it meant the Tomahawk Chop would go away. It’s like the worst humanity has to offer, condensed into one awful bouillon cube of awful.
- For their single championship in Atlanta, the Braves picked on the Indians. C’mon. Have a heart. You couldn’t take one from the Yankees, Twins, or Blue Jays? Bourgeoisie swine.
The Braves are a distasteful bunch. They’re also kind of good. Again. So annoying.
A quick list of the most annoying Braves of the past 20 years:
1. David Justice
2. John Smoltz
3. Ryan Klesko
4. Javy Lopez
5. Tom Glavine’s Moving Strike Zone of Pure Nonsensical Tomfoolery
6. Kenny Lofton, though he was eventually redeemed
7. Melvin Nieves
8. Jeff Blauser
9. Mark Lemke
10. Otis Nixon, but only because of those times where you felt like he was watching you from a window as you showered. Or was that just me?
11. Deion Sanders. I mean, really.
12. Did you realize that the ‘93 Braves only used 13 pitchers for the entire regular season? What kind of they-have-the-technology crap was that?
13. Oh, man, the Braves are annoying.
14. Marcus Giles
15. Keith Lockhart
16. Quilvio Veras
17. Russ Ortiz. Though the multiple 20-win seasons provided by Damian Moss did help to lessen the sting.
18. Mike Hampton
19. Seriously, the Braves have been annoying for a long, long time.
20. Edgar Renteria. Still. It’s even worse that the Braves were able to flip him for Jair Jurrjens.
So this is a thread to exorcise some demons. Get that Braves hate out in the open. Give yourself a rousing, pre-battle pep talk in the mirror. There will be a hitting preview and a pitching preview later on in the day. Right now, though, is reserved for facing the fact that the Giants are facing the Braves. I mean, my god, I lived and died with the Giants in 1993, only to have the Braves swap Melvin Nieves for a division title. I was so crushed, all I could do was listen to Helmet and Kyuss* over and over and over.
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SCREW THE BRAVES
I wasn’t around for 93, so um yeah…WIN THE GAME! I’ll be there!
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Lucky bastard.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing you were born in 91, since you're a freshman in college?
You’re lucky too.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Yeah, I was born in ’91. How am I lucky?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Um...
you were like 2 years old?
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
TBH, I hardly remember baseball before 2007 because I wasn’t raised in a household that watched it. I remember bits and pieces of 2002, though.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And I was calling you a lucky bastard for being at the game tomorrow, lol.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
I’m pumped. My teams haven’t been in the playoffs since a very long time ago (before I formed mere sparse memories), so this is my first time to actually really experience it. All I remember from 02 is the rally monkey (at least of my own memories, not the “highlights” I’ve watched)
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Yeah, same. I’m pretty psyched for tomorrow — to the point where everyone keeps inviting me to socialize and whatnot, but I keep saying “Fuck no, the Giants are in the playoffs.”
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Good.
You got your priorities straight.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Yep. No way am I missing this. I’m even skipping out on going to the dining hall for dinner so I can reserve the TV room for myself. (I am not skipping dinner, though.)
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Same
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 6, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not completely. I still remember Bonds’ homers very well, for some reason.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
91 was a great year to be born in
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 6, 2010 11:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck yeah.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Later=better
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Nah.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Nope.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 6, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
How long are we going to with this?
Yep.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Until one of us realizes what time classes start in the morning?
Nah.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine's at 8
I’m doing homework though :(
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
I don’t have class until 1. I WIN.
Although, I am doing my homework, too. :/
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with this comment
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree with your disagreement
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Nope
1990
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
damn straight
slowly dying, one giants game at a time
by SirPsycoSexy on Oct 7, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Anything after 1985 isn't worth our time.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 7, 2010 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you
Anyone who can’t say where they were during the ’89 earthquake is YOUNG.
[site decorum]
I was in New Jersey!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I was in New Jersey too!
In my family’s apartment in Princeton, up on the seventh floor. Watching the pre-game with my father.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I was 12… Playing legend of Zelda on Nintendo. Refusing to watch the WS cause I already knew what was gonna happen after the first 2 games…
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 8:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was watching the pre-game in my parent's house in the East Bay
Stood up…felt the earthquake…thought it was nothing…look back at the TV and saw chaos
Me too
Although, I remember hiding under the stairs… I was 3 at the time so I may just be making this whole thing up.
Giants =]
by DividedByZero on Oct 7, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I was running for a doorway
However, socks and linoleum didn’t go together too well and I slipped and knocked myself out, missed almost the entire thing.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow – you win.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
It gets better
There were some kids at our door trying to give away puppies and my mom, in her infinite wisdom actually makes them come inside the house and get in a doorway. She was so frantic to get them in the house she didn’t even know I was laying in the kitchen out cold, bleeding.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL panic
I didn’t even spill the bong I was holding.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I was living in Oakland, getting ready to watch the game with my brother. My Mom made us hide under the kitchen table.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
In Oakland too
I was getting ready to watch the game with my cousin. My mindset as a 11-year-old boy: “You mean they’re not going to play the game? This sucks.”
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I was working the front desk at a hotel in Avila Beach
Had the game on the radio and the feed went out. I did get a few calls from people staying on the second floor, asking if there had been an earthquake, but I didn’t feel it. I guess they did get a bit of building sway up higher.
A buddy of mine was at the game, in the second row from the top at the Stick. Said two things freaked him out – one was having the overhang of the top of the stadium near him, and the other was seeing two light towers on the opposite side of the field nearly touching (or so it seemed) when the earthquake rolled through.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I would venture to add before 85 to that too.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL YOUNG
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Late, but HELL YEAH
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
I lived in LA in ‘93 and scored tickets to the final game of the season, which was a brutal, season-ending 12-1 shelling of Salomon Torres and the rest of the Giants pen that included two Piazza homers; I had to sit in the RF bleachers and suffer through the Fan Appreciation Day festivities afterwards while being on the verge of a Kill Krazy Rampage. I’ve always hated the Dodgers but that day will always remain among the most brutal baseball experiences of my entire life.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
Me too!
I was the 15 year old kid in the Giants hat with watery eyes. Remember me?
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I was 10.
I was in LA on a family vacation and instead of going to Universal Studios with the rest of the family and friends, a friend and I stayed back to watch that game from our Studio City hotel room. Obviously many factors contributed to the soul crushing of that game but being in LA while the Fodgers killed us made it even worse. While I hate the Braves for that season I will forever hate the Dodgers a ton more than any old-fashioned rivalry. I won’t be happy until their franchise goes out with a whimper. I hope this is the year we can excise all of our past demons.
I saw that picture
and completely lost it. Before the caption. Then I cackled madly.
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Love it.
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Oct 7, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL – that made me laugh in my office.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Poor Barry
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
BOOOOOOOOO!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations. JUST NOT IN HIS EARS.
Needs more keanu
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Got to put Keanu and the panda back there...
As well as the girl from Willy Wonka.
Let’s get ridiculous with this one.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 7, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
BOOOOO!!!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations. JUST NOT IN HIS EARS.
Calvin and Burrell
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5057783489_13b98f6594_b.jpg
text was too small in the preview
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 PM PDT reply actions 16 recs
Nice
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Needs more bat
Although chainsaws are cool.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The thing I don’t get about that is Bowker is on the Pirates now.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha! I love it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What a bunch of proletariat swine. Spread it around, you jackals.
Did you mean bourgeoisie swine? Because the proletariat represents the commoners, not the hoity-toity John Rocker Gang.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
/Puts finger to nose. Points at Grant.
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Or even better, “bourgeois swine”, avoiding the whole two-noun issue by using the adjective.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
It’s not a description of a certain kind of swine, though. It’s both calling the braves members of the bourgeoisie, and considering the entire bourgeoisie to be swine.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Ratto says Guillen NOT on roster...
Ways Rowand replaces Guillen: http://www.csnbayarea.com/10/06/10/Ratto-Giants-Roster-Set-Speculation-Begi/landing_ratto_v3.html?blockID=326233&feedID=5879
Has anybody seen that anywhere else?
"Ratto"
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 6, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
"Roster"
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
“…”
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand told media that Boch told him he’s on the roster.
by keyser_sozey on Oct 6, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
that means he's probably starting in CF
and Torres is in RF
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 7, 2010 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This
Would be the greatest thing to happen since the Giants traded Molina.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't know
Couldn’t really understand him with that entire Philly Cheese-steak in his mouth.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
john rocker (i always hoped he would run and trip)
steve bedrosian (you traitorous mercenery)
sid bream
Fred McGriff
Should be Number 3
Vi Victa Vis
by cicero on Oct 6, 2010 11:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
Where’s McGriff? Man, that annoyed me.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
Er, “he” annoyed me. Not your post. McGriff. Annoying. Also an abomination.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
The Nieves mention was the McGriff slot.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 6, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I HATE THAT STUPID FUCKING TOMAHAWK CHOP SO FUCKING MUCH
It’s arrogant, annoying, and grossly overused. And slightly (read completely) racist.
Just so no one thinks I’m chop-biased, I do like walkoff baltimore chop. She can stay. Tomahawk chop gotta go, though.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 6, 2010 11:44 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
What? Relax!
If we jump to a big lead tomorrow, I have no doubt we’ll do a mock tomahawk chop. It’s fun!
by keyser_sozey on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed!
Some of my most fun moments at the stadium involve doing the mock chop at Braves! It’s awesome…
by keyser_sozey on Oct 6, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love to start that up again.
But I’d be afraid I would jinx it.
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons.
Wow, you got very close to telling me to ‘calm down’ there.
I get that it opens itself up to a big turnaround, but I still hate it way more than I enjoy mocking it.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 6, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
CALM DOWN
LOTTERY TICKET
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Hate the Tomahawk Chop
However it’s not as bad as that Washington based football team, how the fuck someone can have a racial slur as their team name is beyond me and everytime I hear that stupid chop, I’m reminded of those fuck-sticks in Washington, which pisses me off again and again.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
BUT ITS THEIR HISTORY!!!!!!!!
ugh.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
My friend told me a story once of being in an early elementary school class, where the teacher was discussing American Indians. The teacher said, “So, we often hear the word Indian, does anyone know another way we can say Indians?” A kid immediately shoots his hand up, in that triumphant I know the answer way, and shouts “Redskins!”
Yeah, I don’t get how Washington keeps their name either.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I recently saw ‘The Whigs’ perform and they walked onto the stage with the Tomahawk Chop. Turned to my friend “Is that the fucking Tomahawk Chop?” Friend: “I think they’re from Georgia, must be Braves fans.” Me: “BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!”
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Fuck The Whigs.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
if we want to revive one, there are plenty of options besides the Whigs
Federalist Party
Free Soil Party
Democratic-Republicans
National Republicans
Constitutional Union
Know-Nothing Party
Prohibition Party
Populist Party
Progressive Party
Bull Moose Party
Take your pick!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
They just revived the Know-Nothings, didn’t they?
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I’m pretty sure they have never gone away
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Most of those parties got electoral votes. Maybe all of them. A couple of them had Presidents elected from their ranks.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Don’t you go casting aspersions on the Free Soilers.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism
Dude, at least it’s an ethos
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Oct 7, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
man... 80's colors...
he did help the niners win a championship, though…
/BANNED
Next thing, you’ll being saying we had Darryl Strawberry!
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks 'shopped
Didn’t happen.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
oh god I just threw up in my mouth a little
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 7, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Why stop there?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
and Bo was never the football player Deion was either.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
What are you talking about?
Bo Jackson had a great college career, and could of had a great NFL career even playing for a team with a mediocre offensive line. Granted Deion was still probably better, but he was also maybe the best cover corner ever, even though he couldn’t tackle. But there wasn’t nearly the gap between Bo and Deion on the football field that there was between the two on a baseball field.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Bo could have been a top 5 running back all time.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I like that the comment goes from “What are you talking about?” to “Granted Deion was still probably better” in two sentences.
Trying to be more tame
In celebration of Timmeh Day, but sometimes in comes across as confused.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Stick to your guns. Bo, when he played, was every bit as good a football player as Deion. He did win the Heisman, and the only reason he didn’t put up big NFL career numbers was that he played baseball, only playing half-seasons of football before he got injured. He still averaged 5.4 yards per attempt as an NFL runner, which is elite.
For about two to three season...
Bo Jackson was the most feared RB in the league…stupid hip injury…
Not to mention he ran over the Bos
Yes he was
The only thing Deion had over Bo was longevity, because Bo got hurt.
Sanders was a superb player, but Bo was a force who could take over a game.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I didn’t see what you were responding to at first, so I was somewhat flabbergasted by your insanely positive assessments of Sanders and Jackson as baseball players.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
You'll need to get your flabber ungasted
I was most definitely talking about football
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I figured that out eventually!
Jackson, at least, was very hyped initially as a baseball player too. He really only had one great year, though, and a couple of solid ones.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Where’s his shirt?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And he has a, uhh, completely normal relationship with his brother.
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 7, 2010 12:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This is always funny.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Timmy and Buster - My wish for tomorrow
Timmy should do one better than Halladay, and pitch a perfect game.
Buster should do one better than Bengie – and go 4 for 4, with 2 homers.
I was just thinking
I think I would start Matt Cain in game 1.
Here’s why: Lincecum seems to be extremely amped up in big games and could be more susceptible to being hit early. Whereas Cain doesn’t seem like he gets fazed. (although these reasons aren’t as important).
The 2nd and more important reason is that I would trust Cain on short rest a little more than Timmy.
The 2nd
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 6, 2010 11:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Idk why it says "the 2nd" twice
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 6, 2010 11:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
wouldn't that be the third?
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
2nd squared
So the 4th
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 7, 2010 12:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The only real example we have for Timmy being overamped
was the 2009 All star game right? the last Colorado start was probably one of the biggest of his career and he pitched great.
I think Cam Inman cites an opening day start and his first career start, too. Not that I agree with the over-hyped assessment. It’s certainly not worth it if the basis of the decision is “Well, it seems like Lincecum gets too amped up for big games, the few he’s had, anyway, so, I think the guy who hasn’t had the same spotlight on him should start. I’m assuming that he will not be too amped simply because he’s not the guy who I think sometimes gets amped.”
Kruk was saying that Timmy told him
He was glad he’d had the experience of the All star game, so he won’t be caught off guard the same way.
(hugely paraphrasing, but it was on Monday’s Murph&Mac)
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 5:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Definitely.
Neither Lincecum nor Cain has any 3-day-rest history; but their 4-day/5-day patterns are highly suggestive. Lincecum has, in a fairly large sample size, done significantly better on 5 days’ rest than 4, whereas Cain (also in a good sample size) has done virtually identical work. That doesn’t prove anything about 3-day rest, but it is suggestive—I’d say very strongly suggestive—that Cain is likely to be the better choice on short (3 days) rest. Indeed, following that plan, the Giants could use a thre-man rotation, with Bumgarner held in reserve as a long reliever should one of the three falter early.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I meant for Game 4
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 7, 2010 12:01 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
Honestly, it’s a great that we are able to debate which pitcher to start Game 1
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 7, 2010 12:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was referring to . . .
. . . the possible Game 4. As to Game 1 or 2, though once one gets past 5 days’ rest Lincecum’s performance falls off (as I suspect it would for most pitchers), I doubt the difference between 7 and 8 would matter much—I’m guessing the falloff is asymptotic.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
The difference really isn’t as big as you’re making it sound, once you adjust for luck – notice the .315 BABIP on a 4-day rest, compared to .278 on after 5 days of rest.
Once you’ve adjusted for that, you’re essentially left with a ~.30 point difference in FIP, which, in this sample size, isn’t that signficant. It’s something, but I wouldn’t say it’s “strongly suggestive”.
The difference between Lincecum and Cain, though, is significant, and I’d say it more than makes up for whatever problems Lincecum may have with a 3-day rest.
Easily. And extrapolating from 5-vs-4 to 4-vs-3 strikes me as dubious at best. One might just as well argue that Lincecum has shown he’s more adept at adjusting to an irregular schedule.
extrapolating from 5-vs-4 to 4-vs-3 strikes me as dubious at best
I agree. Especially considering that, as owlcroft has acknowledged, Lincecum is actually much worse after 6 days than anything else (3.62 FIP in ~70 innings) – basically we have great after 4 days, slightly greater after 5 days, and not nearly as great after 6 days; seems pretty hard to learn anything about Lincecum after a 3-day rest from that.
His eyes are closed.
Is that why he sucked?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I was around in '93
And I remember how they kept on winning and winning and winning and how they snagged Fred McGriff for a stick of gum and some toothpicks. I also remember playing down there for what seemed like an entire decade and it always being a miserable slog. And I also remember how they always crapped out in the playoffs despite how good they were and helped usher in the Yankees dynasty. So, yeah, I hate them, and in the way people hate snakes or spiders or the Jonas Brothers.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Oct 6, 2010 11:53 PM PDT reply actions
’93 sucked.
But seriously, more spider hate? Love the spiders, people!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
The Braves are too good. Suspiciously good. Not in a “they’re cheating” kind of way. Almost as though they’ve already played that day’s game and get to play it over again with that knowledge. They all have smirks on their faces. Not because they think or know they’re better than the opposition. It’s because they’re back from the future. Your first pitch curveballs are useless. Your opposite field bloop down the line will find our leather. This 33 year old pinch hitter who looks like he was cast as a background player in a NAMBLA scene for an episode of Law & Order: SVU is going to hit a double. Maybe even a home run. Again, he’s smirking. He knows something you don’t, opposing player.
The fans are smug, too. And why not? They’re rooting for America’s Team. Ted Turner assimilated the entire country. His charisma and money worked exactly twice in his life: 1) Jane Fonda 2) the United States. Braves fans sip their mint juleps, lament the inconvenience of paid labor and talk about how much better a baseball player B.J. Surhoff is than Barry Bonds.
Fred. McGriff.
I want to hate the Braves so much. I want to loathe them. I want to take pleasure in their defeat. But the Braves terrify me. They baffle the Giants. And at home, they’re practically invincible.
So I will clutch to our pitching and double down on Posey and hope, hope, hope for the best. Even though the Braves have played this series already, maybe this time will be different.
by Every6thDay on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
well, they got caught cheating
painting the catcher’s box wide, remember?
nice work if you can get it.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Skip Carey and the Perm
for invading my house @ 4:05 pm practially everyday after my daily fix of saved by the bell.
by armzdealr on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Wreckage.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
:05 start times
Hogwash
Screw you Ted Turner. And screw Mama’s Family marathons. Who the hell would ever want to watch that much Mama’s Family.
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't around for '93
but I’ll be around for ’10, so fuck the Braves.
I remember some of ’93, including how in sixth grade all the 49ers fans were Giants fans and so all the Raiders fans were suddenly Braves fans. That was weird.
Solomon Torres is still one of my favorite baseball names of all time.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 6, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rual Ibanez (just likes the way it sounds)
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 7, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
If you insist
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Two in the goo… One in the poo??
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 8:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too. Partly, it’s the oddly childlike scribble I think.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
art
But that fist is really good.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Yup. Me too. I don't know why.
/auto-defenestrates
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Oct 7, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this from the same people that did the fist pump video at the yard?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
this
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Agreed. I just like the way the name sounds when you say it.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 7, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Angel Pagan!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
OOO, that’s another good one!
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 7, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Shit, I’m older than you?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but following the Giants the past few years aged the shit outta me like many other people.
Hella.
This can explain why I keep thinking most of the people who are younger than me here are significantly older.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
There are at least a few commenters who saw the Giants as kids at the Polo Grounds.
Now them’s real fans.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
My father in law is one of those guys. He is the most hardcore Giants fan I’ve ever encountered. The best part is when he came out west he moved to LA. He bought season tickets to dodger stadium right behind the plate (before they apparently added a ton of seats in front of his). Then he would bring the family, decked out in giants gear, and root against the dodgers!
I remember Mays on Astroturf at Candlestick
That’s gotta count for something.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Thanks
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
My guess is, Buster ain’t having it then and he will pay Atlanta back. Nobody steals on Posey’s watch.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 7, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
All Giants fans
remember ‘93. Even if they don’t.
I was 9 in 93
It was the first year I really was aware of what was going on. That year sucked, because we didn’t even bounce back the next year and Will Clark left.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
The 94 Giants were awesome. Matt Williams was on pace for 80 HRs… Until the godamn strike. Which ruined baseball for me for almost a decade… seriously.
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 7:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Clark-Williams-Bonds
How’s THAT for a 3-4-5?
:weeps:
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
And if it makes you feel better.
Will Clark never left…. At least this one.
My real full is William Clark Jr. … (even though I’ve always used my middle name)
I was kind of biologically obligated to root for the Giants. Especially when I started watching baseball at age 9 in 1986…
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 8:16 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Schulman: Zito off roster
I think it’s a mistake/over-reaction but not too broken up about it…
The Giants this morning will announce a Division Series roster that does not include pitcher Barry Zito, the team’s highest-paid player, a source said Wednesday night, several hours after manager Bruce Bochy said either Madison Bumgarner or Tim Lincecum would start a potential Game 4 in Atlanta.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/06/SPTE1FPC31.DTL
This decision should be a no-brainer. It’s news only because we’re dealing with Boch and Sabes who have some weird love affair with players like Guillen and Zito. They need to watch some Bill Walsh tapes.
by keyser_sozey on Oct 7, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
sure
but he takes to long to get warm out of the pen. i think if you aren’t going to start him, which was a no brainer, it’s best to carry someone like Chris Ray or Mota who can give you 3 or 4 innings if someone has a meltdown, just enough to keep you in the game. I think the bigger fault is the fact that this team has not had a true long reliever all year. someone like Joey Martinez or god forbid wellemeyer would have been a good emergency plan.
I have never considered long relief to be a need on any team during the regular season
but look at what happened with the Reds today…
Right
Chew up your bullpen covering for a short start and you really put yourself in a hole for the rest of the series.
by Ian in Tokyo on Oct 7, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
'Cept
You’ve got two off days in a seven day span. You can afford to work the bullpen a little harder.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
i think
it’s a need. we are lucky enough to have a good rotation, but in 2006 or 2007 when it wasn’t as nails, Jeff Fassero would be there to keep the game close (or at least he was supposed to).
The Giants, Phillies, Rays, sure maybe the pitching is good enough that you don’t need a LR…but it can’t hurt. That’s why i say Chris Ray gets the nod and adapts to Long Relief (even though he’s not a true LR).
I think he's more suited to relief
not better, but more suited to the long relief role. My guess is Barry gets sent to Arizona to work on some stuff and is on a potential NLCS roster.
I agree
Ray has an actual use – in long relief, in a game that can be still won.
Zito has no actual use. Can only be used when we’re down 17-0 after two innings – and we really want to forfeit, but the rules don’t allow it.
by keyser_sozey on Oct 7, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Curiously . . .
. . . Zito and Ray have pitched to virtually exactly equal net results as far as opposing batter’s productivity. Ray has a hair higher OBA allowed, Zito a hair higher TBA allowed. But, as has been pointed out, there are other considerations as well.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
We saw what happened when Zito came out of the ‘pen vs the Reds- didn’t make it thru the inning without giving up a run and 4 baserunners.
So with that in mind, and how long it takes him to get warm, he’s got no value as a RP.
Zito, in my mind, is a classic “starting only” pitcher for some reason. He doesn’t throw nearly hard enough for a reliever
While I agree . . .
. . . i’m wondering if this “ages to warm up” thing isn’t a hypertrophied urban myth. He may have a certain routine he likes to follow—I seem to recall hearing so—but that’s not the same as “warming up in the pen”. But, again, I agree that his style is not suited for coming into crisis situations. (Though I suppose he could be used to generate some innings if able to start with a clean inning, meaning using a short reliever to clean up whatever mess the original starter might have gotten into, then handing over to Zito at the top of the next inning.)
All for all, I’ll take Bumgarner.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I agree
I’d take Bumgarner too, cause he’s an “all-in-one” package. No need to burn relievers just to give Bum a clean inning like Zito would need. Zito’s lack of command in crisis situations=bad result. His only use would be long relief, however, we have plenty of good relievers more than capable of putting up goose eggs. No need to screw with the bullpen chi.
As for the warming up routine, one can only assume since he has a “routine”, that it takes more than 45-1hr to get ready- by the time he’s ready, we may not even need him anymore. But, we’ll never know I guess (but we can have a pretty good idea)
While it might be the right decision it is very unfortunate.
He is going to be destroyed mentally now.
And it’s too bad because he has proven to be a ML average SP over the past two years. He is needed over the course of the full season and will be needed next year if he is still a Giant. But I have a feeling this decision will screw him up forever.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Personally if Zito is off the roster at the expense of Guillen
That is a bad decision. Guillen is so far inferior to Ross in every way and therefore should almost never see the field.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Sort of agree. Sort of don’t.
Properly use Joe Gimpalong can be a legit late inning pinch hitter with some possible power. Zitto… not so much. So just like the Zito Long relief arm comes down to Zito vs Madison & Ray and is found wantining so with an extra bat off the bench in short series.
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
He can be destroyed mentally, or....
…realize that his return being an upper eschalon pitcher is a work in progress that needs more work.
Until further notice, he’s our #5 starter now, and from his quotes in the paper, he realizes it’s of his own doing. He’s not a terrible pitcher, but he’s our 5th best starter and we need four in the post-season.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
But can’t we all agree that he’s better than Mota or Ray?
As for the whole “routine” thing, it seems pretty odd to me. We actually used him once as a reliever, and I don’t think he had to warm up for an hour. He should be the 6th man in our bullpen.
Not out of the bullpen we can't
If drafting players for a team, I think you pick Zito over Mota or Ray, however, if you’re looking for relievers I think either of those is a better pick than Zito who is a creature of habit and takes time to get warm. Plus he doesn’t strike out a shit-ton of guys and has a hard time throwing strikes, toss in that the Giants will already have at least 3 lefties in the pen and he doesn’t bring much value.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Where is this “takes too much time to get warm” coming from? Seems like someone just randomally decided that out of nowhere, and people now just treat it as a fact.
Here. Zito pitched a scoreless 7th in a tied game for us in 2007. I don’t think he’d been worming up for an hour beofre we put him in.
He did the worm in the bullpen for 15 minutes.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know that we can say that when we are talking about a guy coming out of the bullpen
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Not out of the bullpen...I want a guy who can throw strikes
Zito’s command comes and goes too much to be a reliever
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
the real question is
will it include jose guillen? Zito not starting = not an asset out of the bullpen.
mota or ray to long relief?
Ron Gant was really annoying back in the day. I’ll second the John Rocker comment above, too – he wasn’t good for too long, but the intense irritation per inning factor made up for it.
Actually, I couldn’t stand Greg Maddux for years in the 90s, despite having a growing inkling that he might be one of the better pitchers in the history of the game. I guess I got over that eventually, but when the Giants faced him, talk about torture…
Ron Gant annoying
Maddux just not that annoying to me because he was so good and unassuming…did hate him when he became a Bum though
Yeah, the “nice normal doofy guy” thing made Maddux hard to really hate in the long run. But I guess when he was casually inducing a mix of limp grounders, infield pop-ups and strikeouts from the Giants, and then sitting around and picking his nose on camera between innings, that was hard to take.
Then again, I guess I didn’t have a very clear-eyed perspective on baseball as a kid…pretty much anyone who shut down the Giants was going to raise some level of ire.
by Ian in Tokyo on Oct 7, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I liked Ron Gant, probably because he was similar to Reggie Sanders and I loved Reggie Sanders.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
For all the talk . . .
. . . about the various figures who have patrolled right field in Park-of-Many-Names, some of whom have been pretty good indeed, I still have a gut feeling (meaning eyeballs, not stats, which I don’t know for this case) that Reggie Sanders might have been the best of them all, most especially at playing them off that strange substitute for a wall.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Every Other Year!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Randy Winn
Randy Winn, had some great years in San Francisco, although very quietly. He posted a 5.0 WAR in 2008, Reggie Sanders, 3.0 in his lone year with the Giants.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I'd say Winn
Cruz, of course, was quite good as well.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s ironic that a ball he dropped in a different ballpark counts against him when talking about the great defensive right fielders at ATT. Wait… is that ironic?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
no
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
My abilty to handle maddux in the 90’s has a alot to do with the ’89 NLCS.
/ grins happily
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
/(reads lips) “fastball”
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
/“Grand Slam Will Clark”
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Best childhood sports memory ever…
I seriously did a back flip off my couch.
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 9:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How did Terry Pendleton not get mentioned?
Literally stole the MVP in 1991 just because the writers did not want to give it to BLB
It was 1992, and I don’t really feel slighted as a Giants fan because Bonds was on the Pirates at the time.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Yeah, my mistake
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Which is not to say he wasn't annoying
Also, he didn’t literally steal the MVP.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
This. He keep us from using the phrase,
“8-time MVP, Barry Bonds”
I should sue.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
LITERALLY!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations. JUST NOT IN HIS EARS.
Where is Rafael Furcal?
He’s been haunting us for too long.
I really respect hate him.
It would’ve been great to have him on our team! :)
by keyser_sozey on Oct 7, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
And it might well have been possible.
But that’s all spilled milk over the dam, or whatever.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I’ve always wondered why people say, “It’s just water over the dam.” Isn’t water breaching a dam a bad thing? Shouldn’t we say, “That’s just water safely released via a spillway” or “We were able to lower the lake levels before the spring thaw, so the water is at a safe level”?
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
You haven’t? Maybe it’s a Southern colloquialism. I’ve heard it for years.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Perfectly standard expression, with the same natural genesis as its ‘under’ variation.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions
except
one makes sense, and the other doesn’t
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I don’t ever remember hearing it.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Me neither. I conclude that the South is weird. Sorry, TheLetter2.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re entitled to your opinion. I prefer to think of us as delightfully eccentric.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Yup
That’s the South I know.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
haha
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
LOL why would you do that?
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 7, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
You’d lose that bet.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Raphael Belliard
For hitting one more career HR than Kuip.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
David Justice should be mentioned again...
how does someone screw things up with halle berry AND play for both the braves & yankees?
I have to say Grant
Number 2 made milk come out of my nose from laughter.
Also, I’m not drinking milk. Good shit.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I hate the Braves and this is part of the reason why......
I was at this game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN199308250.shtml
My family showed up a little late, we were just finding our seats in the 1st innning when McGriff went yard. What a way to set the tone for the game. My 9 year old heart was shattered that season……
This team is a tease. 2010 Giants baseball playing Just the Tip with the best of them.
Freaking Fred McGriff
3.1 WAR after being traded to ATL in 1993 in 291 PAs! That’s like a 7 for a full season!
I have no memory of 1993
I mostly just came her to say: The Posies – good band. Frosting on the Beater is a really good album.
Go giants.
Ceterum censeo fire Brian Sabean.
by J. Frank Parnell on Oct 7, 2010 1:00 AM PDT reply actions
I was 12. My entire life revolved around baseball. I woke up in the morning, and the first thing I would do is check the boxscore and read the sports page before school. I played baseball year round, little league, all star league, rec and park league. I collected baseball cards the old fashioned way – one pack at a time, and cataloged them by team, according to their lineups, and would change the order they sat in the box in by the standings. I even moved players around when they were traded (Remember the “Transactions” section, next to the odds?) – this was before MLBTR, so it took more work.
The Giants were saved from being sold to FLORIDA. It was my biggest worry, imagine someone trying to explain (my poor dad) to an 11 year old kid that read the sports page everyday that the team might move to Florida, and no there wasn’t much we could do about it. I asked him if he could sue Bob Lurie (dad was a lawyer) and he said no, if he does it, there’s nothing we could do about it. I asked my dad if he knew any rich people that could buy the Giants. My dad still loves to tell that story… Then – somehow – the baseball commissioner said no, they couldn’t move. I was so relieved….
They signed Bonds. I was sort of so-so about him. I was a big fan of Bobby Bonilla, since my Uncle was drafted by The A’s and on day I was lucky enough to meet Bobby. He was really nice to me, so I was disappointed the Giants didn’t get him instead. The team was really good though, they kept winning, and winning. School ended, school started again – and they were still winning.
Then they stopped winning. They totally fell apart and The Braves didn’t. They took first place from us. It was horrible… it was terrible… my 12 year old self couldn’t handle the worry. Even the Nuns at school (8th grade, St. James) would chat with me about it. We were devastated…. then they started coming back. They would grind, my faith would be restored… “we’ll catch ’em” I kept telling myself.
…and we did catch ’em. We tied it the last day of the year. The Braves played early, and had won. My grandpa explained to me how it worked, and that the Giants had a plane waiting to take them to Atlanta for a tiebreaker. I totally pictured a plane waiting in the Candlestick parking lot.
But… the Giants lost. Solomon Torres got beat my Mike Piazza, and the Dodgers would ruin our season. It solidified two things in my mind… #1 I WOULD HATE THE DODGERS FOREVER. #2 Fuck the Braves.
…anyway, that’s my Braves story. It truly was the first time I was really “heartbroken” by baseball. I remember the gutpunch feeling of that game. I recently felt it again, on Saturday, when Zito walked Torrealba… and I didn’t enjoy it. I hope I never feel it again… but somehow – I know that won’t happen.
GO GIANTS.
FUCK THE BRAVES.
We won 103 games, damn it!
by zuma420 on Oct 7, 2010 1:04 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Honestly.
’93 was just more snow on that snowball from ’89 and led to ’94… Matty with 40 HR at the break… Then the strike… Then I fuking stopped watching baseball for almost a decade….
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 7:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How is it possible to “stop winning” and “totally fall apart,” yet win 103 games?
They didn’t have a single month under .500; they did have an 8 game losing streak in September, yet finished the month 16-12 anyway, meaning they went 16-4 aside from that losing streak.
There is not convenient excuse for the Giants missing the playoffs that year. It was a historic aberration, and one that seems to have resulted directly in the Wild Card. Tip your cap to the Braves, but the Giants did everything they could that year.
Thing C
Totally agree
Part of the Giants curse is that they tend to suffer to an extent that things are changed immediately following. In ‘93 their 103 wins that didn’t get them in to the playoffs resulted in the wildcard. In ’97 they had homefield “advantage” but were swept by the Marlins after the first two games were held in Florida, directly resulting in re-formatting how the LDS was played. My guess is that this year there will be an egregiously blown call that costs them a series directly resulting in instant replay being implemented for the playoffs next year.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you sure the tiebreaker would have been in Atlanta?
I thought remembering that I hoped the G’s would win that Sunday game so I could go to the tiebreaker on Monday at the Stick. I also think it would’ve been Swift vs. Glavine. After all that September crap that went on between the two teams, the head-to-head showdown would have been historic.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I really hate Chipper Jones. No rational reason. I just do.
by Natto on Oct 7, 2010 1:22 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes! I’m mortified by his face, which serves as running gag in our office. My colleagues think it’s funny to leave random close-up shots of Jones around my desk at times. And when I remove one, another takes its place. It’s just downright creepy.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
God Damn Larry
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
I don't like him or dislike him, but sure as hell respect him as a player
1st ballot
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Same
Although I have rational reasons
(1) I think he’s a bad person
(2) He’s been a really good player for most of his career
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 7, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If I point out that for the Giants' last World Series title...
…they also picked on the Indians, does that make the Giants also bourgeoisie swine, or does it merely reduce the Braves to opportunistic copycats?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 7, 2010 1:28 AM PDT reply actions
I know you're kidding
but when the Giants won the World Series in 1954, it had only been 6 years since the Indians’ last championship.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, man.
At that point, an entire generation of children had been born, learned to walk, learned to talk, and entered kindergarten since the Indians last won. That’s a lifetime to them!
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 7, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I was 8 in 1993. My parents love baseball and took me relatively frequently even when I was little, so by 8 I had a decent idea what was going on. I remember pretty well how it was a fait accompli that the team was gone, that all of a sudden they weren’t, and that the Giants out of nowhere signed the best player in baseball.
The X factor to remembering 93 was that my dad went back to school and so he wasn’t working full-time, meaning he had a ton of spare time to take me to games. I think I went to virtually every home day game that summer, and tons of weekend games.
I’ll never really get over them losing. an atomic bomb could blow up Turner Field at a Braves all-time reunion and every member of the 93 team, Don Baylor’s lying like a dead dog ass (he was the hitting coach for the Braves one year) and Bobby Cox’s choking chokefest ass could be blown to smithereens and I still wouldn’t be entirely over it (though it would help).
Have a friend who is a Braves fan
He cut the 93 final standings out of the newspaper and pinned them up in his garage.
I lit it on fire.
That is all.
by maysian on Oct 7, 2010 2:15 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Sorry, fuzzy writing.
Just the newspaper clip. He is a friend, also seriously misguided in his loyalties.
I approve of your actions.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand on roster=only good things because it could push Guillen off. If Bork and Sabes truly are looking at the numbers, they will see Guillen is worthless swine. If Rowand bumps Ross instead, I will flip. So Sabes and Bork, don’t make me flip.
Hopefully I awake to good news of good fortunes to the Giants NLDS roster.
Are you sure? Really sure?
Late inning, runners on, pinch hitting for the pitcher: are you really, really sure you’d rather have Aar0n R0wand (two 0’s in that name) than Jose Guillen? Yeah, nobody likes Jose, mostly because he’s gimpy and so can’t field or, really, run the bases well. But punk as he’s been, Rowand has been distinctly punker. It would be nice to have a pinch hitter for whom the broadcasters do not have a pre-recorded tape loop saying “And there’s a quick 0-and-2 on the batter.”
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
You’ve gotten too far ahead of yourself here though. Given Row’s lifetime numbers against 2 of the ATL starters, we don’t know that Rowand would be PH, in fact, it could be Ross PH because Rowand started. But I’ve gotten ahead of myself as well.
If Rowand does indeed bump Guillen off, that means Guillen won’t be our starting RFer, obviously. I see this as an inherent advantage to the chances of our success, as he won’t be able to severely cripple our outfield range and severely cripple our lineup.
Beyond all that, if somehow Guillen is on the roster as well, chances may be heavy that he will be starting, unless there is a drastic change in Borks mindset. The devil’s advocate of that is given that Guillen was acquired to see if he could be another “lightning in a bottle” big-bat signing, there is a chance that Bork has reversed his view on him, after seeing him not-produce time and time again.
Bottom line is, without knowing what role each would play in the series (starting, PH, etc) it is hard to say which roster selections I would prefer. But given Bork’s past use of Guillen, Guillen being bumped for Rowand can only increase the chances of moving on to the NLCS.
This is a false choice
If Guillen is on the roster, he won’t be used as a pinch-hitter late in the game. He’ll be the starting RF, take 3 at bats, play his typical bad defense, and then be pulled for Ross or Schierholtz, leaving the Giants down a man on the bench.
I will gladly sacrifice whatever difference exists between Rowand and Guillen as a late inning PH for a massive upgrade in RF defense for the first 6 or 7 innings.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 3:17 AM PDT up reply actions
THIS
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The rub would seem to be if we’re arguing starting outfielders or pinch hitters. With that, off to work. Later gents and ladies.
Dear heaven: surely . . .
. . . Ross is inked in for RF? Please tell me that no one thinks the macrocephalic and the microcephalic are hatching some scheme of Rowand in CF and Torres in RF, or some other equally repugnant arrangement involving anyone but Burrell, Torres, and Ross.
Please. Pretty please.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I can’t possibly think that Bochy would be that stupid, but odder things have happened.
I think we’re just talking about Rowand possibly bumping Guillen, not to re-arrange the OF, but to give more flexibility in the roster.
Ross would absolutely have to be the starting RFer, or I would say we’re just shooting ourselves in the feet horribly. The only thing that makes Burrell in LF completely acceptable, is that Torres range in CF covers what Burrell lacks, so Row better get comfy in RF
Totally off topic parting shot at GLB
I didn’t realize I could look at my profile. Forgot I even had one. But you can see here the kind of crazy vitriol I’d been spouting over there:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/Lipssan1/activity?community_id=33
Epic, indeed. Whatever it was got me banned.
Good morning, all.
I’ve been amped all morning. I glanced at the clock as I got dressed for work. 4:49 a.m. The game’s at 8:37 p.m.
It’s going to be a long day.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Tomorrow might be longer
If you stay up for the whole game tonight
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 5:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m already dreading it. I told colleagues yesterday that I was going to be up late the rest of the week.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I've got a flex schedule
So tomorrow might be a 9:30 start.
But good luck with that 4:45 thing!
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 5:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
All I’m saying is, if I’m sacrificing this much sleep we’d better damn well win.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I'll make sure the team gets the memo
You know, I don’t think I actually believe the Giants are in the playoffs. Like maybe this past week has just been a mass hallucination or we made Buster Posey up with our minds.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 5:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Friendly Braves fan...
wondering what the Giants faithful think of your D. To an outsider, your fielders look to be average at best, with several below average. Is that a correct assumption, and do you think it is something that could cost the Giants a game?
Then again, the Braves have had more than their share of defensive mishaps in the second half. Just thinking with two teams having such strong pitching, and both having susceptible to slumping offense, that defense may well be the deciding factor in the series.
My scouting report
Really good:
Torres CF
Very Good:
F. Sanchez 2B
Posey C
Good:
Huff 1B
Ross (Hopefully RF)
Acceptable:
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Burrell LF
Poor:
Guillen (Hopefully not RF)
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Ross is above-average as well, especially in RF.
Uribe and Burrell are below-average. Uribe is adequate at 3B.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s because I grew up and have always lived on the east coast, but I hate the Braves as much and sometimes more than I hate the Dodgers. When I first really started following baseball and the Giants (which neatly coincided with the dawn of the Will Clark era), the Braves were terrible, and each game of theirs on TBS was like a blooper reel.
Even before ’93, I hated Bobby Cox, I hated the TBS announcing team- the arrogance of clear-cut Braves homers calling games they knew were being shown all over the country on the “Superstation”- and the tomahawk chop made me all stabby.
Then ‘93 happened. The best Giants team of my lifetime, and some of the most memorable performances (Burkett and Swift winning 20, John Patterson’s dinger, practically everything Bonds did), ultimately wasted on that last day, when the Rockies declined to win one stinking game against Atlanta.
I’m looking forward to hearing all about Bobby Cox’s retirement ad nauseum during the TBS coverage of this series. And then I’m looking forward to Bobby Cox, his rotted teeth, the tomahawk chop, Chipper, McGriff, Lemke, and all of them going to hell.
Chicagoans
I don’t know if anyone else is planning on going out for an 8:30 game on a Thursday night, but I’ll be at Bottom Lounge (1375 W Lake) munching on their approximation of garlic fries.
It will be populated by a fair number of Blackhawks fans and Second City Hockey types, but they’re good people, I promise.
For tomorrow, I don’t know, email’s in my profile and we can work something out.
12:50 to go!
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 5:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Are you confident that they’ll have the Giants on? The Blackhawks opening their season tonight is really throwing a wrench in my bar-going plans.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I called them yesterday to be sure
And I think they’re projecting the game upstairs, so getting the game on one of the dozen TVs downstairs shouldn’t be a huge deal.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 6:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
you really weren’t tuned in in ’93. He and Jeff Blauser might be two of my least favorites.
by sweetjuxtapose on Oct 7, 2010 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions
wait
I mean skip right. Damn. I think skip was the annoying one.
by sweetjuxtapose on Oct 7, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
To a lesser extent
What about Jason Heyward, not for anything he’s done, but for that dumbass nickname of J-Hey, it sounds too much like “Say Hey”, but way more douchey.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
totally agree
but i’m trying to remember, didn’t Willie sanction that?
by sweetjuxtapose on Oct 7, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't know
But if he did, he probably only did it so he could laugh at what a douchey nickname Jason Heyward had.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I lived through every single, hateful fucking minute of the 1993 season
Tossing out some hearty “fuck you’s” in no particular order:
Don Sutton and whatever Carey asshole was in the booth
MVP-thieving Terry Pendelton
Out-of-nowhere-and-right-back-into-nowhere Ron Gant
David Justice
David Justice (yes, he gets 2)
Leo Mazzone’s stupid rocking back & forth
“America’s Team” – are you fucking kidding me?
Cryptkeeper-ish Otis Nixon – wait, wasn’t he Orlando, the bartender in The Wire?
Ryan Klesko – asshole follow-through on his swing and no, it does not matter that he was a Giant.
Rick Mahler – perhaps the ugliest player ever, certainly in the top 3
Sid Bream…just because. Stupid name – he should be selling used cars.
Bobby Cox – wife beater.
I don't even think of Klesko as a Brave since his best years were as a Padre
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Meanwhile, on a scratchy phone line somewhere in San Francisco
He picked up on the third ring. “Zeets! What’s up?”
“I’m off the roster.”
Hudson rubbed his forehead. “What?”
“The postseason roster,” Zito said. “I’m not on it. Boch told me this afternoon.”
Hudson closed his eyes. “Christ, Barry. I’m sorry.”
“Yeah.” Zito’s plaintive reply broke Hudson’s heart. How had two of the Big Three fallen so far, so quickly?
“I’ve been tryin’ my best, you know that,” Zito said.
“I know you have.” Hudson sighed, shifted the phone from one ear to the other. “Look, I’m sure it isn’t personal. Maybe they just wanted to give Bumgarner a shot.” The words immediately rang false, even to his own ears.
There was a long silence on the other end of the line. Finally, a bitter laugh escaped Zito’s mouth. “Oakland seems like a hundred years ago, doesn’t it, Huddy? Maybe I should hook up with Mulder and work on my golf swing. God knows I won’t be much use around here.”
Hudson winced. “Don’t say that.”
Another pause. “You’re gonna do good for ’em,” Zito said. “But you know I can’t root for you.”
“I know.” Hudson bit his lower lip. “Listen, if you want, we could have lunch or somethin’ while I’m in town. Catch up a little or whatever. We don’t have to talk baseball or anything.”
“I think I’m going to stay close to home this weekend,” Zito said. “But thanks.”
“Okay,” Hudson replied. “But, y’know, if you change your mind or something…”
“Yeah, yeah. I’ll call you,” Zito said, though he knew he wouldn’t do any such thing.
“I really am sorry about the roster thing.”
“Eh, gives me time to work on my paddleball skills.”
“Heh. I guess.”
“I better let you go. You’ve got stuff to do.”
“It can wait.”
“No, it can’t. Go out there and do what they pay you do, Huddy. I’ll catch you later. Bye.”
“Bye, Zito,” Hudson replied, but the phone line had already gone dead.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
You've got something happy to follow that downer with, right?
Poor Zito :(
According to the chronicle they’re getting lunch today. Maybe Zeets will do the team a solid and give Hudson food poisoning.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 6:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They are? Awesome. I think it’s sweet they’d get together while Hudson’s in town. But I won’t advocate the food poisoning thing.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
What's a little botulism between friends?
And Barry could nurse him through it! It’d be great hurt/comfort.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 6:58 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay, okay. I like where this is going. Storyboard it and have it on my desk by Monday.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Can there be a musical number?
Nothing too flashy, I promise.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 7:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think
that I can’t live without these stories.
I love ’em so much!
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Dear Giants/Fans
All I want for Christmas is the ability to buy officially licensed Giants World Series Champions gear….if any of you know 25 people that can help me in this endeavor, please point them in my direction….Thanks.
Speck
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
The Braves are pure evil.
I think they strangle puppies or something.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Myabe this isn’t the most popular opinion at the moment, but I would give it up in a nanosecond for both McCann and Francoeur. Boy, would I ever.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
The question is if you gave it up would Francoeur be able to catch it.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions
The one on the left, is meh
But I can’t disagree with the one on the right.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 6:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
GTFO
Brian McCann is a heartthrob. He’s my desktop wallpaper here at the office.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Matt Cain just started crying somewhere and doesn't know why
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.
by shinkicker on Oct 7, 2010 7:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Braves Players Implicated in Bestiality Ring
Even those two pups despise the Braves…Francoeur’s looks especially fearful for his life – note that you can’t quite be sure of what Jeff’s left-hand is up to in this photo.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
At his rate, McCann is a Hall of Famer. He gets very little recognition for how good he is.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a bad feeling about this series
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
It’s not like the Giants have ever lost to a wild card team in the first round.
They could be Giants...but not really.
It’s just carry over from the Sharks…
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 8:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I just realized this is the first home playoff game since
I’m only bringing this up now so that no one brings it up closer to gametime.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 7:01 AM PDT reply actions
Oy
For a second I thought you photoshopped the “I Has A Bucket” guy’s head onto Tyler Walker’s body. But no…that really was our game one starter. Shudder
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Oct 7, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Looking at that picture, maybe Pablo thinks that putting a few pounds on is his route to becoming royalty. What ever happened to Ponson? I’d blocked him out of my memory.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
WALKER!!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope. Think: medieval lord.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Holy Shit I forgot we had Ponson on any of our teams.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
It's funny
Because we all remember Jose Cruz Jr. dropping the fly ball and J.T. Snow getting thrown out at home, but no one seems to remember how much Ponson sucked in Game 2.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 7, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Fixed
Because we all remember Jose Cruz Jr. dropping the fly ball and J.T. Snow getting thrown out at home, but no one seems to remember how much Ponson suckedin Game 2.in the playoffs
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
"Hey, we catch the ball, we win." - Sir Sidney
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Damian Moss, Kurt Ainsworth and Ryan Hannaman.
Miraculously, the Giants won the trade.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Giants, at least, got 1.0 WAR out of the deal!
The Orioles got negative 1.1! Fantastic!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They did save a few millions, though, which they used to, uh, not sign their draft pick the following year. Yeah…
LOLRIOLES
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hannaman, that's vaguely familiar
Apparently he had a 10.8 K/9 as a 21 year old in high A. I guess injuries killed him?
I remember him being a second tier pitching prospect at the time. Some people thought highly of him, but yeah, injuries decimated his career.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I’m surprised people weren’t higher on him. His K-rates were through the roof.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I didn’t, but at one point I thought he’d be a good middle reliever.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG SIR SIDNEY
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
does anyone remember Cruz's stumble in game 2?
It was a close/tie game at that point, I think…and someone hit a fly to right…it was gonna be a tough play and Cruz was sprinting over there…
I remember “Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz” was flashing across the scoreboard…
And as he’s about to catch the ball, he goes down…I think he tripped on a puddle of water that had accumulated on the Right Field warning track…
HIRED GUN
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations. JUST NOT IN HIS EARS.
Grant
What if the guy on the vuvuzela was humming “We Built This City” for 17 straight hours? What then, smart guy?
I bet you’d embrace the tomahawk chop with every fiber of your being.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
'we built this city' is the worst song ever recorded
And yet I would gladly listen to that if it meant the TC had never existed and never would.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Business productivity estimate for today
NOT GOOD.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
To somebody who was living in CT at the time
#1=The TBS Crew….Hands down, this isn’t even close.
I could watch most Braves games on TBS and had to listen to these homers gloat and gloat and gloat….From L to R…
Joe Simpson, Don Sutton, Pete Van Wieren, and Skip Caray…God, they were awful…Simpson and Sutton still are.
This was 93, there was no mlb.tv….I could get ESPN Giants’ games every once in awhile, but mostly it was watching them play the Braves on TBS and the Mets on Channel 9. When I got to see the Giants play on TV it was an incredible treat. I never had a problem with the Mets’ announcers. Sure, they rooted for the hometeam, but they were respectful of the other team. They called the game, they didn’t root against the other team. Listening to them was like being plopped down on a couch at a Georgia country club and listening to four bitter assholes comment on the game to each other.
They were arrogant, untalented, cocky homer announcers who were awful on their own, but when the four of them combined during a broadcast, something grotesque happened. A 12 year old boy’s innocence should not have to be shattered by these 4, but it was. This is when I realized there were evil forces in the world. They referred to the Braves’ players on a first name basis. They openly cheered for the Braves. They acted like they knew the Braves were going to win in the end. In fact, there were rumors that they would play “Ookie Avery” with a Steve Avery rookie card, the winner got to keep the card.
Fuck all of them. I still get shivers to this day when I hear Simpson or Sutton on a broadcast.
John Patterson’s HR was my one moment of solace in an incredible train wreck of torture that was 1993. Of course, that game was on ESPN, so I never got to hear their call or their pain. But, that night, it comforted me to know that somewhere all four of them were huddled together, weeping, on their knees praying to the vigil of Bobby Cox that they had erected in the broadcast booth.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 7, 2010 7:04 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Looks like a screencap from "Deliverance 2"
See how the eyes are either too close together or too far apart?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Wow Skip sounds like an asshole.
For example, during a particularly long losing streak in the 1980s, Skip declared at the start of a game against the Pittsburgh Pirates, “And, like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field”.8 More recently, in a game against the Florida Marlins, the Braves had loaded the bases, to which Caray quipped, “The bases are loaded, just like (Marlins manager) Jack McKeon probably wishes he was.” During the 2004 season, Caray frequently made fun of Braves relief pitcher, Jung Bong, declaring every time the opposing team got a hit against him, “that’s another hit off of Bong”. In 2008, a player popped a fly ball so high that Skip said “That wouldnt’ve been a home run in a phone booth.”
In one celebrated instance, in order to get back at Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist Ron Hudspeth for a critical column, Caray paid to have an airplane tow a banner above Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium during a Braves game which read, “For a good time, call Rona Hudspeth,” and included Ron’s actual phone number
Skip was also known for his tendency to identify the hometowns of fans who catch foul balls during Braves games in jest. Fans who reside in the metro Atlanta area were identified by a random suburb, though there was no legitimacy behind these references. Similarly, when daytime home games went long, Caray would routinely give a “traffic report” at exactly 5 o’clock on radio broadcasts. It consisted of him rattling off a random list of major Atlanta arteries, and describing each one as hopelessly backed up.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds more senile than anything else.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Skip Caray's a douche-bag
That being said, the airplane with the banner is pretty sweet.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
The "hit off the bong" line made me laugh
…and I’m not even stoned
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Needs More Otis Nixon
looking at us from through that window in the back.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Oct 7, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I think I saw that picture in a post office, or on one of those registered sex offender sites.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Chip Caray kind looks like Buster Bluth.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Him?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I do not like the Braves. I always dislikek Mark Lemke and Javy Lopez.
I do like playoff baseball. I do like the Giants.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 7:09 AM PDT reply actions
Tell us how you really feel about the Tomahawk Chop
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
seriously, How is Greg Maddux not on the list?
he was so fucking annoying with his wide strike zone and pinpoint control and nerdy looks. ugh.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 7, 2010 7:22 AM PDT reply actions
The glasses irked me.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1989_NLCS.shtml
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but he was a Cub then.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 7, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
/staring at clock
//productivity down the shitter
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 7:24 AM PDT reply actions
FUCK
you made me realize that we are going to be seeing the tomahawk chop come sunday performed by a full house of braves fans. I thought I had suppressed all those memories
Not if Sanchez no hits them
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Oct 7, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I will settle for nothing less than twenty seven straight popups.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
full house of braves fans
Maybe
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
those traitors...
i thought that show took place in SF
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Oct 7, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Please allow myself to introduce.... myself.
Long time Giants fan, Sharks STHer… New to MCC.
I was definetly around for ‘93. 103 wins and we lost the NL West to a team from a state that’s on the Atlantic ocean…WTF?
Yeah I’m still bitter. And I’ll admit it. All year I kept thinking if we were gonna make the PO’s we were gonna have to go through the Braves.
Still remember the press conference on the airport tarmac after losing the last game of the year to…. that team from LA. Matt Williams was friggin jacked…
Fuck the braves…
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 7:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
What's a "STHer?"
Giants and Sharks fan myself. Yet confused.
Fortunately, I was off to boot camp during that part of ’93.
Season Ticket Holder.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
Season Ticket Holderer
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Sexually Transmitted Hemorrhoids?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
For you
the longing, anxious Giants fan.
Needing a parka to watch a night game? Welcome to Giants baseball.
failure @ loading pic.
It was terrific. Believe me….
Needing a parka to watch a night game? Welcome to Giants baseball.
allow me to help out
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
I owe you
a Diet Coke.
Large even.
Needing a parka to watch a night game? Welcome to Giants baseball.
GiantsBabe only drinks liter of Diet Coke
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
actually
I don’t drink soda of any kind. But I’ll happily accept a margarita :)
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Done
I don’t drink soda either. A cold beverage of the alcoholic kind would work.
Needing a parka to watch a night game? Welcome to Giants baseball.
I’m the opposite. I don’t drink, but I’ll gladly have a soda. It all evens out!
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I saw Mello Yello recently. Hadn’t realized it survived the 80s.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I don’t know. I’ve never been inclined to the stuff. Never had a real desire to drink.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I drink, though not really a lot. I don’t like feeling altered. But I have to drink, because I’m an unpublished novelist.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
It just makes sense. Like, I should chain-smoke because I’m a journalist.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
and wear a hat with a little “Press” sign in the band
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Any team that refers to themselves as “America’s Team” should be immediately and summarily deleted from existence. Not just the team, but the stadium, the fans and any mention in history books. The self aggrandizing is just mind-blowing. It would be like taking a seminal, galvanizing event in American history and claiming it for your own personal political cause. Wait… What?
by BestHyperboleEver on Oct 7, 2010 8:09 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Braves fan here
Thought you guys would enjoy the Batter vs Pitcher comparison over at TC. Seems as if Lowe and Huff have a good bit of familiarity.
http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/10/7/1736295/braves-vs-giants-game-one-batter-vs-pitcher
Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.
I wouldn’t put to much stock into those stats.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I guess you guys aren’t too familiar with the term SSS, which stands for Small Sample Size. An entire post devoted to nothing but really useless stats, that’s Skip Caray genius.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Popcorn stats...
Are all they are, and they’ve been marked as such countless times throughout the entire season.
Regulars on TC obviously understand that you can’t base future performance off of them, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t interesting to look at, at least to some degree.
People visiting the site rarely may not understand that people on TC don’t take them seriously, as in, “OMGZORS, WE KEEEILL TIMMAY!!!!1”
So, to say it simply, SSS is a common concept talked about regularly on the board, and no one puts any stock in those stats. They’re simply interesting to look at and possibly consider when in-game situations and match-ups arise.
-C
It’s rough to sit through these games and not have someone that can’t hit a Ball?
Ironical
Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.
Also, WTF is up with making me wait 4 days before I can post something tame to Talking Chop that will inevitably get me banned?
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Ironical indeed.
What is small sample size??? Help me out guys!! TROY GLAUS IS HITTING 1.000 AGAINST LINCECUM WE ARE GUARANTEED WINZZZZZ LINCECUM SUCKS!!!!
I’m guessing the 4 day waiting is due to the large population of Phillies fans trolling recently. I fully understand the concept of SSS and realize that Alex Gonzalez hitting .429 off Lincecum in 7 at bats doesn’t mean shit. That being said, you can put some stock in a few of the matchups because of the extended history (Huff vs Lowe, Burrell vs Lowe, McCann vs Lincecum). I’m not sure if you guys took my original post as sarcastic because of your responses but I came here in a purely informative manner.
Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.
Talking Chop...More like Talking Choke
The Atlanta Braves are some of the biggest choke artists in the National League, maybe even baseball. They went to 13 consecutive postseasons and only won ONE Championship. They are like the San Jose Sharks (no offense to SJ fans) but they can’t even close out a drunk cougar at a dive bar on a Tuesday night. The Giants will demoralize Atlanta and send Cox walking to Shady Oaks Retirement Community empty handed, with nothing but memories of amazing pitchers and ringless fingers.
Where was J.D. Drew on that list because I FUCKING hate that guy!
Shit, sorry I wasn’t precise on my ATL knowledge.
by DCOrangeBlack on Oct 7, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
im a little worried about timmy today
i mean, he does have a history of getting too amped for big games (first career start, all star game, first opening day start)…obviously i hope he one ups roy halladay, but I wouldnt be surprised if timmy struggles the first few innings
What's with the negative vibes
“Happy Timmy Day everyone.” (smiles while suppressing similar concerns)
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
/reading too much Cam Inman
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
the Kawakami piece gives me hope...
sounds like Lincecum maybe realizes he’s had this problem in the past and is determined to stay calm, focused, and businesslike… I like determined Lincecum.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 7, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
If you were a fan of an NL West team in the early 80s other than the Braves,
you hated the Braves. You hated them because:
1. they were a division rival
2. of Dale Murphy’s mole
3. of Bob Horner’s fatness and long curly blond hair
4. of Skip Caray, Pete Van Wieren, Ernie Johnson Sr., and whoever the fourth guy was. I’d rather clean all the bathrooms in Grand Central Station with my tongue than spend one more minute listening to those guys.
5. You owned a map.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
7. You had function eyes and witnessed the CHOP!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
8. You’d ever been to the city of Atlanta
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
9. You have heard Atlanta called HOTlanta
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
10. You ever had to listen to some talking head who went on and on about how Hank Aaron was the greatest player of all-time while screaming “Willie Fucking Mays” at the TV.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This needs to move up to number 1.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
11. You were tired of the promos for Mama's Family on TBS
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
ZANE SMITH!
He totally doesn’t get enough credit in discussions of ugly ballplayers:
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Oh god. He looks like Mike Krukow after being beaten in the face with a manhole cover.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Sweet mother of mercy.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Wormtail?
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The 1987 Topps baseball cards are THE quintessential 80’s baseball card…
So nostalgic… Love em’…
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 10:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow – that’s some ugly.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I've been to the airport
it was horrific.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Atlanta is unpleasant to transfer in, because it’s freaking huge, but O’Hare is truly horrible.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I would reverse the two statements for Hartsfield and O’Hare. Maybe I’ve lucked out, but I’ve never had a bad experience at O’Hare.
They could be Giants...but not really.
It’s pretty bad. Ridiculously overbooked. Always running late.
If you live in Chicago, it’s a royal pain in the ass to get to, too. The L goes there, but it’s the end of the line on the oldest, slowest line on the system.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
+1
Thanks Delta.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
Cucumber. Cool. As. A.
The last time we played the Braves in the playoffs they had a better team and we beat them. Our offense was better then, but our rotation is better now.
We aren’t scared of their consistent success, their stadium and certainly not Goddamn Bobby Cox. Look at Gerald Demp Posey and tell me that man isn’t going to smoothly guide this team to victory, both in the City and in his home state.
We are going to win.
We. Are. Going. To. Win.
First ever adoptee: Steven Michael Decker, our 2012 San Francisco Giants Manager/starting catcher.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
I like the confidence…
The. Confidence. I. Like.
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 8:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
WE'RE GONNA WIIIIIIN!
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I cautiously optimistic about this series...
but then again…I was in 1997…that Marlins series really killed me…
I too am confident...
and that’s killing me because I feel like I’m jinxing something.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 7, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Bob Quinn deserves a lot of the blame for that, too
The Braves got McGriff, and all he could manage was Jim Deshaies and past-his-prime Scott Sanderson? FAIL.
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I think he’s the guy who hired Sabean, too.
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That’s really more a commentary on Quinn than it is on Sabean, though.
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true...
With that said…Sabean remade the Giants in 1997…kept them winning through 2004/2005…and rebuilt the team again this year…some major bumps along the way but pretty good overall
I would quibble with you, but that debate’s been had a thousand times over.
Suffice to say, in my opinion, the Giants haven’t had a really good GM since Al Rosen.
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Thoroughly entrenched in this line
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
also, huh!
Looking up Scott Sanderson, one of the guys we traded for him was Aaron Fultz – who ended up making his Major League debut with the Giants seven years later, and spent three years as our requisite mediocre lefty reliever.
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Is there an official for the Giants' run this year?
I’m happy as long as it’s not who let the dogs out…
If there isn't
I think it should be “Hurt” Nine Inch Nails or Johnny Cash version, either will work.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
/showing your age
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
that show would actually be fun if they had a guest producer every week
Unfortunately, their covers all sound the same, and unless you are the Fall or the Ramones, that doesn’t work.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
they should do a The Fall episode
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
my wife would die from happiness
I might — maybe — survive. Unless Mark E. did a guest appearance. Then I would die, too.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Good point
maybe I’m showing my age.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
NO! Dodgers use that song!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Time to reclaim it for its rightful home.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean, LA takes our goddamn water but I’m not giving up local beer.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
the White Sox already used that
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I can’t stand that sign.
I’m always surprised by how many sensible people seem to love Journey. I don’t get it.
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That song is horseshit. Fuck Journey.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. But I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who didn’t love that song
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
I used it as my trump card when I played Napster-the-worst-song roulette back in the day.
Only ‘We Built This City’ is more painful, I think.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
Have you not heard of Celine Deion? That’s pain in can.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
She'll bring the pain
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
too dull to be really painful, imo
But if ballads are what kill you, hers are pretty awful.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I despise Journey
But Steve Perry was at the Giants game last Saturday, and he took it on himself to pump up the already pumped to borderline hysteria. I’ll never forget it, and he has a life time pass from me for it. And Journey once ruined a Cake concert for me. There was a lot of forgiving to be done.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That’s up there with JT’s home run in should-have-been-legendary-moments list.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm no fan of Journey, but that was all kinds of awesome
When they first showed him on the jumbotron, there was light behind him and I really couldn’t see his face. I thought, “Man, that guy is a spaz.” Then they showed him in better light and I said “Holy crap, that’s Steve Perry…and he’s singing along to his own song…awesome!”"
After the game, he got in the booth with Renel, took the mike and was genuinely imploring the crowd to keep the faith, we’ll get ‘em tomorrow, don’t stop believing, etc.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I hate that song, but it’s infernally catchy, and Perry is a fan.
Otherwise I’d probably pick something really inappropriate, like Pink Floyd’s Bike.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Changed lyrics for Giants fans
There is a [ballpark] in [San Francisco]
They call the [Cove]
And it’s been the ruin of many a poor [fan]
And God I know I’m one
My mother was a tailor
She sewed my new bluejeans
My father was a gamblin’ man
Down in [San Francisco]
Now the only thing [Giants fans] need
Is a [hope] and [prayer]
And the only time they’re satisfied
Is when they’re [being tortured]
Oh mother tell your children
Not to do what I have done
Spend your lives in sin and misery
In the House of the [Giants]
Well, I got one foot on the platform
The other foot on the train
I’m goin’ back to [San Francisco]
To wear that ball and chain
Well, there is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
And it’s been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God I know I’m one
Done
Missed the last stanza...but repeat the first one
They can even play it during the 7th inning stretch with the organ!
There’s that video that uses Rihanna & Jay-Z’s “Run This Town.” I kinda like it considering Rihanna.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems about equivalent to doing a fake Tomahawk Chop at AT&T Park to me.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
hey, I like 'umbrella'
I mean, in the huge-hit sweepstakes it’s not bad
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Rihanna and the Giants both have unpleasant memories involving men named Chris Brown.
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Official song = the BYE BYE BABY song....
and it always will be
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Tenth Ave. Freeze Out - Springsteen
McCovey Cove Freeze Out:
They made the change uptown & Buster joined the band…
i like this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
POD - Lights out!
Love that song and was my song when I played.
/FP’d
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
I love MCC. God bless the good work you do.
Peace be with you,
Sid Bream
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 7, 2010 8:50 AM PDT reply actions
Just an encouraging though
This past season, the Braves were worth 747 wRC.
The Giants were only worth 693.
But Martin Prado was responsible for 91 of those wRC. And Chipper Jones had 55 wRC.
When you subtract those two from the lineup, and you realize that we only had PARTIAL seasons of Burrell/Posey to help out our total, it’s not at all a stretch to say that, right now, we have a better offense.
One of the most annoying things about the Braves
Their fair-weather mostly uninformed fans.
MCC most recent thread, almost 500 comments, Talking Chop a whopping 10 comments.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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Now, I remember 1993, and the very special Braves strike zone, and the catcher’s box cheating, and I hate the Braves. But in fairness, the Bay Area overrepresents online ‘net geeks, doesn’t it? That gives you the virtuous circle that helps build community and get that kind of post count.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
To some extent
But a lot of us live on the East Coast, so how would you explain that? Also, it’s noon on the East Coast, 9 am on the West Coast.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been up since 5:48.
No, I think Braves fans are lame, and Giants fans are not. But I play devil’s advocate on things like that, since they so deeply suit my preconceptions.
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You think that's bad
This rally thong I’ve been wearing for the last month is starting to give me a rash.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Feeling old
Not sure what racing stripes are.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
If one of my kids says it, I’ll at least know to be concerned.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I liked Deion. Good Giant.
I saw Kyuss in 1993. In Portland with Danzig and White Zombie. But that was AFTER the 103 win heartbreak.
Hate List: All Braves.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
Sanders played better than the Giants than they had any right to expect, but he wasn’t really around long enough or in a significant enough time period to qualify for “Good Giant” status, I don’t think.
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that was kind of a weird trade, incidentally
Deion Sanders, Dave McCarty, Scott Service (not to be confused with Scott Servais, pronounced the same, who also played for the Giants in the mid-to-late 90s), John Roper, and Ricky Pickett for Darren Lewis, Mark Portugal, and Dave Burba.
Of all the players involved, it’s probably Burba – a middle reliever at the time of the trade, and much reviled in San Francisco for his role in the 1993 last game collapse, who ended up having the most value.
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The Service/Servais conundrum. Still confuses me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s too bad they didn’t play for the Giants at the same time. Imagine a Service/Servais pitcher/catcher battery!
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checking the WAR data...
Burba: 4.6 WAR in 2.5 years
Portugal: 2.6 WAR in 1.5 years
Lewis: 0.5 WAR in 0.5 years
Sanders: 1.4 WAR in 0.5 years
Service: -0.2 WAR in 1 year
McCarty: -0.2 WAR in parts of 2 years
Roper only pitched one inning with the Giants. Pickett never made the big leagues with us.
Not such a great trade.
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Holy fuck
Haven’t they been leaked yet? I need to know about Guillen and Zitty.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
This
Unless by some miracle when lolineups are announced he’s not in there.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Zito's out.
That was leaked last night.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
It's only been reported in one place though
And no one else has picked up on it, to my knowledge.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
FWIW, It was discussed as fact all morning on KNBR, including with Duane Kuiper.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
That makes me feel better, but the earlier point about that being negated if Guillen is on there is still valid.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I was 12 in 1993 and it was my first season as a Giants fan ( I defected from the Pirates when SF got Bonds).
I remember the fire in the Brave’s stadium, thinking there was no way the Braves were going to break my heart for the 3rd year in a row, and having the Giants’ lineup laid out in the form of baseball cards while the Dodgers beat them out of the playoffs. It was that day that I began hating the Dodgers. It wasn’t until later that I found out they were rivals.
I’ve always felt less hatred towards the Braves since 2002.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
I can't believe you left off John Rocker...
The prototypical southern redneck (as opposed to the Appalachian redneck or the cowboy redneck).
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
You know...
I never hated the Braves cuz of Rocker…he was just an idiot…don’t really associate him with any team…
Lenny Dykstra is also a good example…
he did inspire the Best Heckling Ever, though
Johnny, how can you ignore me after last night? The promises we made?
by wcw on Oct 7, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This +109
A quick list of the most annoying Braves of the past 20 years:
1. David Justice
However, Otis Nixon is ok in my book. If only because every time he came to bat the “Otis…MY MAN!” scene from Animal House played in my head.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
And as someone who suffered through 1993,
I actually hate the Braves less for that than I absolutely despise the COLORADO FREAKIN’ ROCKIES who went 0-12 or 0-13 against the Braves that year. If they had won ONE F—CKING GAME, we would’ve had a one game playoff with Bill Swift pitching (win). If they had won TWO games, we beat the Phillies easily in the NLCS and likely win the series.
Oh and I also hate the 1993 Padres for trading them McGriff for table scraps. You don’t trade your best player to a division rival halfway through the season! Assholes.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
In the Friars' defense
how can you pass up names like Vince Moore, Donnie Elliott and Melvin Nieves…
The Padres were all kinds of dumb then
1) They have Roberto Alomar, Sandy Alomar Jr., and Carlos Baerga
2) They trade Sandy Alomar and Baerga for Joe Carter
3) They trade Carter and Roberto Alomar for McGriff and Tony Fernandez
4) They trade McGriff for table scraps
5) They trade Fernandez for table scraps
6) ????
7) PROFIT!
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Speaking of Roberto Alomar
Roberto Alomar’s wife has accused the former baseball star in divorce papers of having unprotected sex with her despite knowing that he is HIV-positive.
Alomar
The New York Post reported Thursday that Maria Del Pilar Rivera Alomar filed paperwork in Florida alleging Alomar “knew prior to his first sexual contact with (her) that he was HIV-positive.”
The lawsuit is the second in two years to accuse Alomar of having unprotected sex while knowingly carrying the virus. A former girlfriend, Ilya Dall, filed a lawsuit in February 2009 accusing him of having unprotected sex with her over the course of four years. Dall sought $15 million from Alomar, and the case was eventually settled last May.
Alomar’s then-girlfriend Rivera defended him at the time, calling Dall’s lawsuit “a vile lie.”
Alomar has denied having AIDS. He told the New York Post last year: “I don’t talk about my personal life, but I don’t have that disease.” He added that he would not have gotten married if he had the disease.
Good summary
I remember 93 as well, my first (of 9) summer in NYC. Back then, there was no interwebs to follow the season, and I was a poor graduate student with no cable. We had to rely on the newspaper… and a west coast night game never even made it in.
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
The Giants have a game today!
Is it too early to go to the ballpark??
:D
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Not on a day like today
Or at least a bar near the ballpark.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks GiantPain and Giant Torture!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
That's a Giant recommendation
That’s painfully torturous.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean you’re not there yet?
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I normally don't re-quote Grant to verbally fellate him and his writing...
…but this has me on my knees
Yet I would rather listen to someone hum the melody to “Mambo No. 5” on a vuvuzela for seventeen hours straight while I tried to pass a kidney stone in the back of a garbage truck that had video of Scott Speizio’s home run in 2002 on a non-stop loop while my feet were in Kleenex boxes filled with tarantulas and A.J. Pierzynski’s toenail clippings if it meant that I didn’t have to listen to the Tomahawk Chop one more time. Truth.
It just gets better and better as you read it
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
deep thoughts
We still owe $64.5-$75.5 million to the guy we’re leaving off the postseason roster.
/sobs
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Anyone see the rosters yet?
If anyone sees the rosters go up, please post it here.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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I think it'll be announced on Twitter
And I think people here will freak out about it almost instantly.
Figured that
Just wanted to remind everyone so they posted the link before going apeshit.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
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by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Crap
I’m gonna be in a meeting at 10.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 7, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
it's official
I am now reading and posting on McC from my phone in my linguistics class. I think this makes me a serious addict.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 9:44 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
And Grant is nothing more than an enabler.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 9:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
On my Droid Incredible now. There’s only so much of Morphology class one can take.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 9:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure...the first few GDT are free...
then you’re hooked…next you know…you keep hitting the refresh key for a new post by Grant or even a random comment about peanut butter…
No lie, I routinely try to ‘Z’ my way through normal web pages.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I hate it when I’m in the middle of writing a really witty retort and the site goes down.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I find Z's in all sorts of random text boxes on my computer
I’ll think I’ve clicked on McC but it turns out I haven’t, so randomly the ‘search bar’ in iTunes will read something like ‘zzzAz’
I had peanut butter for dinner a few nights ago
on a toasted english muffin.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Agreed
Tough to find a good pita.
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
If it’s super dry and crumbly, it’s shitty pita bread. It shouldn’t be those things.
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Whole Wheat Pita Bread + Hummus Quattro from Trader Joe's
Why am I not hungry for dinner? Oh yeah, I ate the whole thing.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
Even better: prata!
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
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The one on the right, with the egg in it, is called a “plaster” (Singaporeans’ term for Band-aid).
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I dunno about chew
But I like the flexibility of something that can be either sweet or savory
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
They put sugar over this too. Just as good.
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, I was referring to green onion pancake. Really good, but difficult to appreciate with sugar. (difficult, not impossible, I wager)
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I love green-onion pancakes.
Tough to make, what with all that rolling and re-rolling. But usually really cheap at any Chinese restaurant.
Dang, now I want some.
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
We're doomed
Versatile Infante is the Braves’ X factor
He’s the guy in right field. Or left. Or at shortstop, second base or third base. He’s the guy who took over for Martin Prado(notes), the Braves’ best player at the time. And then for Chipper Jones(notes), their best player for a generation. Years ago, he was run off positions and out of at-bats in Detroit by Ramon Santiago(notes), Carlos Guillen(notes), Placido Polanco(notes) and Fernando Vina, so he earned back a few swings by playing six different positions, figuring it out, surviving.
Now 28, hardened by his positional vagabonding and inspired by the public ridicule that accompanied his surprise All-Star selection in July, Infante no longer plays from the bench. In the leadoff spot and back at third base, he has become part of a new core of Braves, that being what was left from a grueling and injurious season. From the Braves’ opening day eight, only two started game 162, a win that clinched the organization’s first playoff appearance in five years.
For that, in part, they can thank Infante, who walked into the season a utility player and walked out with 506 plate appearances, a .321 batting average (third in the National League, behind Carlos Gonzalez(notes) and Joey Votto(notes)), and a .345 average with runners in scoring position (fourth, behind Adrian Gonzalez(notes), Votto and Gonzalez). He played five positions, all of them adeptly.
Infante will proceed to hit .800 with 5 homers
WTF: Playoff Baseball...NFL Season...NBA starting
Leading story on ESPN.com is the start of the NHL season…
Not complaining just shocked
If Lou Seal and Sharkie mated…
Danny Heatley would officiate and throw out the first pitch!
by skilletboy on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LEBRON IS EATING A CRUMPET, COULD HE BE TRADED TO EURO LEAGUE?
Updates every 10 minutes!
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
I was 28 in 1993.
I remember that season as if it were yesterday. Yeah, it is annoying. But honestly, that ghost was exorcised in 2002.
I would very much like the Giants to win this series and then beat the Phillies to reach the world series. If that doesn’t happen, I will still call this season a success. This is a fun (if frustrating) team to watch and they have already surpassed my expectations. Additionally, just the experience of reaching the postseason will do a lot of good for the younger players on this team.
As was my mantra all through September, the Giants just need to keep playing good baseball.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 7, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I don’t think the ghost of 1993 will be exorcised until the Giants win the World Series. At least for me. I was so sure that was the year…
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Agreed.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Well put. It was enough for me that this motley crew made it to the playoffs. Anything additional would be gravy.
They could be Giants...but not really.
But honestly, that ghost was exorcised in 2002.
Honestly, Lars and I must share a brain, because I was going to say this. I mean, I still hate them because they are from the South, but not for 1993.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations. JUST NOT IN HIS EARS.
Where will it post at?
I’ve been refreshing Extra Baggs like every 30 seconds.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
You sir, are a great American.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
5 minutes till guillen and zito make the roster and our hopes and dreams come crashing to the ground
i cannot believe my eyes
that the world is full of filth and lies
and it seems to me, evil inside of me, is on the rise/
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
so....
we’re really that invested in Mota/Runzler over Zito. I’m not. I’d rather Zito be there to mop up if needed than waste a relievers arm. He ain’t starting. As crazy as Bochy is, I have faith in that now.
Let's bring the...
agreed there
unfortunately, I think it’s more likely he makes the team. He’s been the starting RF for the last month. Why change now — aside from recognizing reality.
Let's bring the...
i wouldnt really have that big of a problem if zito makes the roster. if guillen does though terrible terrible things
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm more of the opinion
Look around, we’re rooting for the lost and found.
Just when you feel you’ve almost drowned
You find yourself on solid ground.
And you believe there’s good in Buster Posey’s heart.
Keep it safe and sound.
With hope you can do your part
To turn seasons around.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
So i hear buster posey has become a crusader
baseball, he’s cleaing the base paths
bout time
so i hear buster posey and matt cain got marries
so romantic
this is his hair
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I've got three tickets for tonight, I can't go.
Bleacher seats, $100 each. I live in Davis, and don’t have a mode of transportation to get them to the Bay Area, so we’d have to arrange meeting somewhere to pick them up. Anyone interested?
It's time
Now where the fuck are the rosters?
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
Extra Baggs and sfgiants.com too.
"There's not many things to do in a trailer park." - A. Huff
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 7, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
McCovey's in Walnut Creek
anyone in the area down?
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
Maybe
But I’m sure they’ll feel better if the Giants win.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
nice
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 7, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A
You forgot John Rocker. And Ted Turner.
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
Well, he also lost a lot of his wealth due to his stock options going in the toilet after the AOL/Time Warner merger, I think.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I enjoyed ‘I Am Not Sidney Poitier’, in which Ted Turner is a character.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
Ted Turner was the manager of the Braves for one game in the 70s.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Gary Sheffield
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
don't forget his stint with the Brewers
He later admitted that he was so unhappy there that he started deliberately throwing balls off-line to first (he started out as a SS/3B) to try to get the Brewers to trade him.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
At one point. Later on, Sheffield hated the crap out of Barry.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I don't think so
However, Barry is related to Reggie Jackson and Sheffield is related to Dwight Gooden.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Shawn Estes not on roster.
Ya happy now?
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Oct 7, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
BUT HE HITS HOME RUNS
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, even better than “The Paperboy Delivers”. I know.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
But as good as “The Paperboy Always Delivers Twice”?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
SEIZE THE DAY!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
the suspense is killing me...
You’re tearing me apart Giants!
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Oct 7, 2010 10:05 AM PDT reply actions
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Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 7, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
when im wth you
but when we are apart i know its true
cuz no matter what i do i fell the same
with or without you
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
dammit
I want the roster to be announced so I can go get lunch.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
It's up!
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
mauer
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
was thinking of doing this
but your timing was impeccable, good thing i moused over it.
Poor infamous Rick Astley
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 7, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
This board was ripe for a Rickroll
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Am I the only one that looks at where the link sends you before blindly clicking it?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yes.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I looked, then clicked to see if I was right.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
c'mon!
so, I see this, assume by 49 Giant Shark’s comment that Guillan’s on the roster, then click through anyway…you got me, my mouth was open..
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
LOL
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Ha! Got me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
SFGiants
11 pitchers: Affeldt, Bumgarner, Cain, Casilla, Lincecum, Lopez, Mota, Ramirez, Romo, J. Sanchez and Wilson #SFGiants
Mota’s weekend must’ve gotten him that spot.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants Tweet
According to the giants twitter, the roster has been announced
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
THANKS SFGIANTS, REALLY INFORMATIVE
SFGiants
Giants announce 25 man roster: 11 pitchers, 2 catchers, 7 infielders and 5 outfielders #SFGiants
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions
YES YES YES
hankschulman
Guillen off the roster. More TK
by GiantPain on Oct 7, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Enough of this chatter! We need a lede for the hedline!
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Woohoo!
At least the chances of me breaking something are dramatically reduced
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
by Cant_buy_a_run on Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
REC'D
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
oh my god
BIZARRO WORLD
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
OMFG YES
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Hell yeah!
Sorry, Guillen, I don’t even feel bad the way I do about Zito.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like we are waiting for our 1st round pick to be announced in the 2011 draft
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
with the 26th pick in he 2011 draft, the giants select jose guillen
thats how free agencey works right?
/sabean
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
` Pitchers (11)
41 Jeremy Affeldt LHP
40 Madison Bumgarner LHP
18 Matt Cain RHP
46 Santiago Casilla RHP
55 Tim Lincecum RHP
49 Javier Lopez LHP
59 Guillermo Mota RHP
52 Ramon Ramirez RHP
54 Sergio Romo RHP
57 Jonathan Sanchez LHP
38 Brian Wilson RHP
Catchers (2)
28 Buster Posey C
22 Eli Whiteside C
Infielders (7)
14 Mike Fontenot IF
17 Aubrey Huff IF
10 Travis Ishikawa IF
16 Edgar Renteria IF
21 Freddy Sanchez IF
48 Pablo Sandoval IF
5 Juan Uribe IF
Outfielders (5)
9 Pat Burrell OF
13 Cody Ross OF
33 Aaron Rowand OF
12 Nate Schierholtz OF
56 Andres Torres OF
by GiantPain on Oct 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Hallelujah!
"I wanted to pick a Rockie. But I dislike the Rockies. They're not bona fide." — Jon Miller on the postgame wrap, 7/1/10
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Nate AND Ross?
They are spoiling us
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Holy crap.
This roster is….GOOD?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
JUGGERNATE!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
A NEW DAY HAS DAWNED FOR AMERICA
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
if only pablo could be the emergency catcher and ford “slides” into whiteside’s roster spot, but hey that would’ve been too much foresight
Ford can be if he replaced someone on the DL
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Oct 7, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
this
Nobody’s really that high on Rent but you can’t go into the postseason with only one guy capable of playing shortstop on the roster.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG YES!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
NO ZITO
NO GUILLEN
NO ZITO
NO GUILLEN
NATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ISHI!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap this is actually the roster that I wanted to see.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
It’s an unfamiliar feeling.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks good. I’d rather have Zito than a couple of the relievers, but no big deal.
And I’m glad Renteria’s healthy. If he is.
I feel like
we’re in the minority for wanting Zito in the bullpen.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 7, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
GREAT ROSTER!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I approve of this message
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
EXCELLENT.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, but I would have…wait, no, this is what I would have done. I like it. This is unusual. Someone pinch me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
One more step to go
Blowand can not be in the starting line-up tonight…
But, you know he will….
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
GRUMBLE
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
SABEAN READS MCC IT'S OFFICIAL
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
I would like to take this moment
To brag about how prescient I am.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/10/5/1731484/guessing-the-25-man-roster#48542317
what stocks should i be buying?
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Waffles! Tasty Waffles! With lots of syrup!
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Renteria and Whiteside
Only RH bats off the bench
LOLZ
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
He'll start!
Wait….Rowand will start.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh
Ishi?
Ross?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I would assume Ross is starting…
Is Travis now right handed?
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
...You said there is only RH bats on the bench
I assume Ishi will be on the bench, and he hits LH.
And if Ross is starting, then Nate?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Oh
I read your first statement wrong.
I thought you meant Bats coming off the bench to PH.
Carry on.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I was saying that those two were the only RH’d bats off the bench. I forgot Rowand though.
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 7, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
I’m frackin shocked…I think Guillen must be hurting…this is just way out of the norm for these guys..
In before FIRST ROSTERBATION
SL tonight?
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Uribe SS
Sandoval 3B
Ross RF
Lincecum P
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
i hope so
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand will start
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 7, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Stop it. Its over played.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 7, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a legit lineup
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I know im gonna be in the super minority
but i wouldnt have minded velez on the roster
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
prolly ishi. I know we wouldnt have a real defensive 1b that way but i like what velez brings to the table. so long as he isnt used very often
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
speed is good in late situation when you need to score from second on a single
a la jt snow
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Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
and frankly...
I’m really only good with his speed from 2nd to home….he doesn’t look smart enough, comfortable or confident enough at 1st to steal a bag…even Ford looks more prepared at 1st..
NO GUILLEN!!!!
HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can almost taste the baby horse wings.
by The_Beard on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
1993 was torture (I was 15), but it was still a fun season. That said, I’ve always hated the braves.
Also: yay NO GUILLEN!
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Also: yay NO GUILLEN!
This x109 plus NO ZEETS!
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
OMG YES!!
TRAVIS, TRAVIS, TRAVIS!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Where was the lineup announced?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Smoltz was a bad ass
Sheffield over him! Sheesh.
And I could not agree with Grant more about the damn Chop. You have some cahones to carry that on even when the Native Americans think it is disrespectful. SHAME!
It's better to be lucky than good.
Last scene in our ’93 season: Walking back to our 1990 Nisson Sentra in the parking lot of Chavez Ravine, opening the trunk, then my trusty metal Coleman cooler, and opening one of the bottles of Piper Sonoma, pouring two big cups (think keg party) for my wife and I, slamming them down, then driving back to San Jose.
My hatred that formed that season was not that of the Braves, but of the Rockies. Hasn’t really changed.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I respectfully submit
That if the 1995 Braves (and 1997 Marlins) hadn’t beaten the Indians, the Giants would only have the Cubs ahead of them in the most depressing race evar.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 7, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
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