Post-game thread: Madison Bumgarner dominates, Giants one win away
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 8:34 PM PDT
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The unlikeliness of it all. One year ago, Madison Bumgarner was a pitching prospect without a fastball. His velocity wasn’t just down, it was Rueterian. And as he was always known as a one-pitch pitcher -- the changeup and breaking ball were so raw that they barely warranted a mention -- so the red flags were waving red flags taped to smaller red flags. There are such things as pitching prospects, but when they start pitching as if there’s something wrong, there usually is.
One year ago, Buster Posey didn’t have enough of his manager’s trust to play in September. Posey didn’t get spot starts, he didn’t get garbage time, and he didn’t get pinch-hitting opportunities. He was a ghost at the end of the bench. A couple of months later, the organization brought back the Bengie Molina, who had the undivided trust of Bruce Bochy. The plan all along was to bring Posey along slowly, but there was every reason to believe that Posey wouldn’t catch much in the majors in 2010 because he didn’t have big-league catching experience, and he wouldn’t get big-league catching experience because he wouldn’t catch much in the majors.
The pile of unlikely is about 25 deep. Aubrey Huff was lucky to get a major league contract after he floundered in Detroit. Andres Torres was a fifth outfielder. Freddy Sanchez had a knee filled with shoulder goo, and a shoulder filled with knee shavings; he was a medical experiment with a new contract. They were all heroes in what might be the biggest win in San Francisco history to date.
But Madison Bumgarner.
No matter what the outcome of the series, no matter what nuttiness ensues over final game or three, that was a pitching performance that we’ll bore our kids and grandkids about. We’ll sit on a sunny porch,drinking lemonade and spinning yarns about Madison Bumgarner’s start in Game Four. He threw 104 MPH, he did. He threw sliders that made hitters in the on-deck circle take cover before the balls broke over the plate. He completely broke down one of the greatest hitters in the history of the game in two consecutive at-bats.
Wait, that last one wasn’t embellished. That was a legendary start, and not just in the context of the San Francisco Giants. That was a 21-year-old rookie made of one part grizzled veteran, one part emotionless sociopath, and five parts amazing. Completely unflappable and completely in control.
A rookie pitcher throwing perfect pitches to the rookie catcher who was calling them. A cobbled mix of veterans outhitting and outfielding the opposition. The 2010 Giants are one win away. They’ll have three shots. One win away. The unlikeliness of it all is stunning and beautiful.
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Mista F. Says WOAH, damn that was a long homer
Thanks Aubrey for picking up my out to the left side!
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
3 down
Still one to go. Still a long way away.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yeah…24 hours or 72 hours or 96 hours or..well, that’s it.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Madison Bumgarner.
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Behind 3 amazing arms.
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I figured. :/
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Almost as compelling an argument
As Matt Cain.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I have no rebuttle.
Amazing argument.
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
You are forgetting tomorrow's argument
Tim Lincecum.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
by 49er16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Final Magic Number:
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 19 recs
Is our magic number really 1???
It feels like we still have to win four more. In fact, I predict that Selig is going to find some way to screw us…you know how he’s been saying he might expand the playoffs? He’ll make an announcement tomorrow that the World Series this year is a best-of-9.
I just know what I felt like after game 5 of the ‘02 series. I’m not smiling at all until we get our final out of our fourth win.
by Giant Zebra on Oct 31, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woah!
You posted a comment.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was amazing
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
Bumgarner gives Buster "the chills"
you heard it here first, folks
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just work it into home runs and western suns
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Bummy and Posey already have their own arc going, so I can just add to it.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I just saw that you posted a new chapter
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
My comments may follow
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t like Aaron Rowand
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit Pat
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit Aubrey
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
His hot breath like ice on Posey’s broad, sweat-drenched back
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I can’t believe we’ve gotten this far. I just can’t believe it.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
dude…. i was so happy just to have a fun successful team to root for this year. i can’t believe it either
No one here gets out alive.
I’m still stunned at how this whole October played out. Hopefully November will yield even just one win.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I just wanted to be in contention for the division title. Talk about exceeding expectations even through three wins of the World Series. I thought next year was going to be our first legitimate year to contend.
My beautiful and talented wife never ceases to remind me that I picked them 4th this year.
by wcw on Nov 1, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
This sure is one lucid dream we’re all having
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I’d say we’re inside Grant’s dream right now, but too few llamas.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's Jose Guillen's nightmare
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I've suspected something was up for a couple of weeks now.
Here in Grant’s dream he titles the post:
“Giants one win away”
In the real world, Grant would have gone with:
“Giants three games from breaking our hearts”
There is no nation of you, there is no nation of me
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
We’re not. The Giants really finished 70-92 and the World Series is Yankees vs. Red Sox.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Wrong. I definitely couldn’t have predicted an AL-AL world series.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
I’ve come to accept that the Giants have defeated the Braves and will advance to the NLCS.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just happy that we made it to the playoffs. When the series started against Philidelphia, I said to myself, “Well, we proved we belong here. From here on out, anything else is gravy.”
Oh my god.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Madison Bumgarner
I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce (Bochy)
by rhythmismt on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Madison Bumgarner.
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Madison Bumgarner!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Madison Bumgarner
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Bumgarner, Madison
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Mr. Madison Bumgarner
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Señor Bumgarner, El Guapo
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
Madison Bumgarner.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
That's SIR Madison Bumgarner, if you don't mind
by jasperlamarcrabbe on Oct 31, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
MADISON BUMGARNER
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
And the punctation evolves…
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
it's never too early!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Question
how does pitching depth usually affect a teams’ chances in the playoffs?
No one here gets out alive.
How? Haven’t you been paying attention the last 4 weeks?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear that good pitching beast good hitting, unless the other team is a good hitting team.
Er.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
you can't say that until the Giants score a run
frankly, I’m skeptical
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Just win one of 3
The sooner the better, please.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM PDT reply actions
That's what scares me
I’d rather not see a Game 7.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 31, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Madison Bumgarner Madison Bumgarner Madison Bumgarner Madison Bumgarner
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
AHAHAHAHA
My biggest accomplishment at 21 was clearing sunwell before the patch sup!
I should have never played that game.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Arena was my thing as well
Only got glad twice on my pally and once on my DK since I spent so much time playing other peoples characters in arena for money :D.
Now I’m just gonna pretend I never wasted 3 years playing that game.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Yeah, I don't really want to talk about it.
Six times on Druid, Six on Mage, Five on Priest, Five on Rogue.
Priest and Rogue weren’t on my account though. ’Sup spending money in college, amirite?
The biggest thing I had done by the age of 21 was a black guy named Mike.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 31, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 18 recs
Um....
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
awesome.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
LOL
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Omg I spit out my water when I read this
LOL
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
This deserves so much rec'ing
Also, I haven’t spent too much time thinking about it, but this might also be my answer, word for word
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
“Hit this, mother fucker.”
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Scary Good
that tagline on ESPN makes it even better
Was I the only one who looked at his arm and saw this?
All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his real conditions of life, and the complete lack of off- holy crap URIBE!!!!!
by pentheus on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haha
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe it. I just can’t.
Oh lordy, just one more win.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 31, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
by sanfrankid on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
THE MAN!!!!!!!
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by ZenPop on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 35 recs
So awesome
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That was a fast green.
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
You are amazing
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The internet
I can feel it breaking!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Magic Number
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
by humm baby on Oct 31, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Please Giants
Just one more win.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I want to get excited, but...
2002….
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Stay calm. This isn’t 2002, though. We have a 3-1 lead and 2 more at home. We had to win 1 of 2 on the road in 2002. This is very very different.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I know...
Just call me a negative nancy
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Same thought
I won’t believe it until I see it. And then I’ll still not be sure.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
YES YOU CAN!
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
GOOOOONE
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
HELLA YEAH!
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HELLL YEAH!
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HELL YEAH!
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
HELL YEAH!!!
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 31, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow!
Aubrey sure bulked up, huh?
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by boteman on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been saying they look alike for a while.
Both are from Texas.
Brothers from another mother?
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 31, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
HELLLLLLL YEAH!
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
HELL YEAH
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Hell
Yeah
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Translation…..HELL YEAH!!!!
"A 1-0 Loss is the fault of our pitching staff" Bruce Bochy/Brian Sabean
by Cant_buy_a_run on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
4th youngest pitcher to start and win a WS game
2nd youngest to pitch 8 shutout innings, the 1st youngest being Jim Palmer.
Yeah, he’s rather good.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Oct 31, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Listen up tards...
Any idiot that says they want the Giants to win it at home is a complete and utter tard. Win now now now now now now now now.
by loonyfringe on Oct 31, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This
Home is a safety … do it. Play it like in Philly.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Cliff Lee is pitching for their playoff lives for a chance to come back to San Francisco.
Awesome.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
It’s funny because they have an extra chromosome.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Attention
Giants are 1 (one) win away from winning the World Series.
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CRAB COUNTDOWN: ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by ZenPop on Oct 31, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
I love the crab.
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
We've been here before
Careful not to Jinx. Careful. Careful.
We’ve never been here before.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
NOT WITH THIS TEAM...
THEY SPIT IN THE EYE OF BASEBALL HISTORY!!
THEY MAKE THEIR OWN DESTINY!!!
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Molinas density influenced our destiny.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
by lame-o on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 31, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions
It was pretty turrible.
Summary: “Giants have outplayed Rangers in games 1, 2, and 4, and deserved to win those games,” after a 10 paragraph preamble about how much luckier the Giants were with a bunch of ridiculous cherry picking of “breaks” from the game, and that if it goes to Game 7 Bochy will look dumb for starting Sanchez over Bumgarner in Game 3.
His coverage of the Giants in the playoffs boils down to wanting to be right, rather than enjoying some great baseball.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Karl Ravech just said Bumgarner was 23
Nice research.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
He has the cool, calm approach of a veteran 23 year old.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Bochy takes note that Nate and Travis were awful. I did like the great OF defense, though.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I'm in love with great outfield defense as well...
once we have the lead, and it is the 6th inning or later.
I wouldn’t mind DHing Burrell and playing Nate in the OF.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd...actually go with Rowand to start tomorrow.
Then swap Nate in for him if Lee comes out of the game.
That's what I'm expecting-I imagine this line up tomorrow
1-Torres-LF
2-Sanchez-2B
3-Huff-1B
4-Posey-C
5-Ross-RF
6-Uribe-3B
7-Burrell-DH
8-Rowand-CF
9-Renteria-SS
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Yeah, no.
You could maybe argue Nate instead of Rowand, but I don’t buy his “reverse platoon” splits in the least.
I’d be fine with Nate playing outfield and everything else the same (Rowand out though).
Either way, I want Burrell in there. To beat Cliff Lee, you need your best hitters in there, even if they are slumping, because the other guys at best will just make outs.
me too re: burrell but...
burrell has said himself he doesn’t like dh’ing; doesn’t do it well.
(noob here)
by swedishcouscous on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What if Rowand and Renteria were part of a WS winning starting lineup!!??!!!?!
Chris Ray is not Bengie Molina.
Nate did get robbed of an RBI single by Hamilton
I think tomorrow is the day to load up on righties though. Heck, if I were Boch, I’d be tempted to try to squeeze Rowand into the lineup.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It was still an exceptionally weak hit.
He’s frankly a bit overmatched at the plate, but I don’t mind having him in Right as soon as we have the lead.
THE MCCOVEN FREAKOUT DID ITS JOB
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
KEEP FREAKING PEOPLE
24 HR FREAKOUT
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Interestingly, defense was key today . . . but not from the players Bochy put in. I guess Cody being in left wouldn’t have happened without Nate in, but some of his plays came after Nate would’ve been subbed in anyway.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Maybe...but maybe not. Pat stayed in the game really late the last time he played.
The switch worked out.
We were trailing in Game 3. Bochy plays it different with a lead. However, following Bochy’s usual formula, Burrell’s last at-bat is probably the top of the 8th after Posey’s HR, bringing in Schierholtz for the last 6 outs, after most of the damage was done (or rather not) in LF.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Lefty tomorrow
Burrell will be back. I suspect Rowand in the OF and Pat DH.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
when Lee comes out…
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He's had 8 inning complete games giving up 5+ runs.
Dude can be efficient even when getting hit.
but the subbed in people really did not do anything
Just 1 or 2 defense plays. The others would have been when the normal defense subs were made.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I wouldn't mind Burrell DH'ing
and Nate in the OF but meh
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
More of a nice-looking, regular guy next door kind of thing really.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The defense really paid off!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this really happening?
This kind of thing doesn’t happen to teams I like.
Please, please, dear God, I want to be one of “those” fans.
Try waiting 52 years.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You must not really like the Giants, as this indeed is really happening.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know how much this is an effect...
When I moved to LA in the fall of ’83, the Raiders won the Super Bowl.
When I moved back to Texas in the fall of 92, the Cowboys won the Super Bowl.
When I moved to San Antonio, the Spurs won their first NBA championship.
This is my first full year of serious Giants fandom.
OT
I’m listening to the old Casey Kasem’s AT40 show from the 1980’s online. Playing right now is one of the “AT 40 extras”. The song?? Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’”
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Meant to be.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Both SF TEAMS WON
GOOD DAY
(and Both Dallas teams Lost)
GREAT DAY
Hit like Berry, Score like Jerry.
by Dub4lif3 on Oct 31, 2010 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 11 recs
And the Warriors got schooled.
Oh wait..
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
that wasn’t part of the deal! that would get me thrown out of the family!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
another interesting conversation guys!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
haha anytime!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The Warriors played the Lakers. There is only one true outcome.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Rec’d
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Wash press conference
Questions sound like Charlie Brown’s teacher
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
For me
Mole was the co-MVP of the game with Bumgarner because of his defense.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
by 49er16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
what does it mean
to have how many co-mvps?
Huff, who volunteers to DH, apparently tells everyone “I’m gonna show you how to DH”, and mashes a homer to Oklahoma.
Torres, who doubled twice including driving in the THIRD run which they needed horribly.
Posey, who caught/called a fairly decent game despite his idiocy, cut down the Rangers’ only attempt to get to 2B before the 8th inning, and nailed the coffin with what Joe Buck called “fly ball to center, carrying… oh, home run zzzzzzzzzz”.
Nate and Ross for nice plays on balls not at all easy to catch, including Ross in the 8th disappearing against the scoreboard.
Unbelievable. Seriously.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I sat my fat ass down at Aces Ballpark in Reno in April and watched Madison throw unimpressively to Buster. Now this. WOW!!!!!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not kidding guys
I really, genuinely think we’re going to do this.
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
The cosmos do not care what you think. Neither does Cliff Lee…
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
Cliff Lee doesn’t care about anything. It’s why he’s so good at his job. He’s like one of those hit men. Or Kale Ingram.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
He's like...
Pat Burrell. And Cody Ross. And Javier Lopez. And And And LolMatLatos.
I agree. I’ve felt this way for a couple weeks now, actually but haven’t really said much because I am trying not to disrespect the people who believe in jinxes.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing?
Go outside, turn around three times and spit. What the hell’s the matter with you?
For the love of Pete, make sure it’s widdershins!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I really, genuinely thought that in 2002.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I did after the Bonds home run in game 6.
This year is totally different. It’s possible that we will lose 3 in a row. I think it is much more likely that we will win one more game this year.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Much, much,
more likely.
I don’t believe in jinxes. Or good omens.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Their win probability was up to 97% in game 6, y’know. Counting your chickens, etc.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
relax
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
MADISON BUMGARNER
Also, tomorrow is Timmy Day.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
WOOOOOOT
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Happy Timmy Day's Eve!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
All Hallow’s Eve. Indeed.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope it’s the greatest Timmy Day of them all.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff the magic Giant
Played as the DH
He creamed the ball, to deep right field
to seal the giants fate
Huff the magic Giant
Plays for you and me
If nothing else, at least he helped
To win the World Series (game 4) J
by sf_get_some on Oct 31, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
That Posey home run was beautiful
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
it was just a popup that carried
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
by ZenPop on Oct 31, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
vixi?
OK, what am I missing? Veni,vidi, vici—I came, I saw, I conquered—has become I came, I saw, I lived. Is this a joke I don’t know? an allusion to something or someone other than Julius Caesar?
Which . . .
. . . for those too jejeune to have known Candlestick up close and personal, was an accomplishment.
Sabean delendus est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
shudder..
Night games at Candlestick. I’m inside and warm, yet suddenly I feel very, very cold.
Lifelong Trauma
I never got the circulation back in my feet 100%
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
My parents once took me to a night game doubleheader for my birthday. I think it was ’93 or ’94.
I have a very loving and supportive and possibly demented family.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I still have two of those buttons somewhere...
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
The Croix de Candlestick
was awarded to fans who stayed to the end of a night game that went extra innings at the Stick.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't know what a Croix de Candlestick is?
Too young or too old?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
One more win, please
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Doubt
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Never in doubt
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Never in it, Dallas
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohh.. you know exactly how to speak to me.
My Photo Blog: http://eyeprints.tumblr.com
SIGN UP :D http://www.swagbucks.com/refer/ch3zyp00fs
I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Splendid!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
had it the whole way
no, really. we did.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That wasn't torture
WHAT IF I CAME HERE FOR TORTURE?
by Duelling Brandos on Oct 31, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Link please
Not that I don’t believe you and all. I’ve just always where these came from.
Fangraphs.com
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
they've got some good stuff there
some absolute crap too, but mostly good stuff
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
There have been "better" and "more brilliant" and "more exciting" games in 2010
That was hands-down The Most Satisfying Giants Win of the Season.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Winning a game with our brand of baseball, with no bullpen meltdown to diminish the fantastic performance by Madison and the defense, felt like a fucking triumph.
We can do this.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
LOL Lone Star Ball commenters insisting that Bumgarner didn't actually pitch well
To hear some of them tell it, Bumgarner didn’t pitch well, everything was a gift to him from the ump, and the Giants suck and are the luckiest team ever.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
http://www.lonestarball.com/2010/10/31/1786176/rangers-do-not-win-down-1-3-in-world-series#50858745
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I feel bad for them. Nearly all of us have felt what they are feeling. It’s not fun and I take no joy in their suffering.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I get that, I do, but to bitch about stuff that sucked for both sides tonight (STRIKE ZONE) and then throwing shade at Madison, it’s not helping their cause
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I just ignore them. I checked in during Cain’s start because they were so delusional about him previous. I was curious to see if they had come to their senses.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
When I lose...
…I don’t go racist.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone in the Lonestar forums put "fuck the chinese".....
….. I got to saying, reading from this site all year has really made me appreciate the atmosphere here… wtf is wrong with people?
by Los Gigantes on Oct 31, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
People here have been saying stupid shit too. At least the homophobic GDT comments finally stopped (as far as I’ve seen.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
lot of morons throwing around slurs aimed at opposing players
it’s now an insta-ban!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Ouch...that is not cool
Was it here or on gsom that there was a whole discussion about how “no homo” was homophobic?
He is not a representative of LSB's general comment base.
Apart from being angry
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I can't feel bad until...
… it’s over. When it’s over, I’ll either feel bad for them or congratulate them. Until then, this is still a war.
LOL IRRELEVENCY!
You guys are just setting up the Giants for complete humiliation
in the next 3 games! I still believe!
2011 Colorado Zombies—Will rise from beneath homeplate with the shards of a broken season in Tulo’s hand!
Brad Hawpe – Thanks Brad, you were a class act.
QPU #4, YHEG #4, Proud Member PR Gynocracy
by SDcat09 on Oct 31, 2010 8:37 PM PDT
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Stupid Tulo sig
Is a stupid Tulo sig.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The 2011 Colorado Zombies bit.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
lulz
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
About as dumb as it gets.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
shes on purple row and is a super annoying bitch who always says “hmm maybe they should check Ross for PEDs” or “look, cain threw a ball back. guess it wasnt un-juiced enough for AT&T”.
Rockies fans are straight up bitter and angry that the Giants said “hey, how about some monitoring of your humidor balls?”
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
word. funny how they were winning a ton of games all of a sudden, the giants asked for more moderation of the process, and they lost 13 of 14 to finish.
that game can go both ways, but their level is so low it aint worth stooping to.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s like, weird or something.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
The Giants are just lucky that every team they play happens to conveniently slump offensively.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I won’t diminish at all what the Giants have done with the pitching and defense in this postseason (2.06 ERA? Are you fucking kidding me?), but one person noted before I believe Game 5 of the NLCS that they thought that the Phillies were playing “arrogantly.” And I have felt this way too, particularly after Victorino was quoted after Game 1, saying that he was standing on second base, wondering who was going to get the big hit for them, and the hit never came.
Maybe this has affected the offensive performances of the Phillies and Rangers, who like everybody else seem to have underestimated our pitching staff. But whether it has or not, watching the Howards and Werths and Andruses and Kinslers slam their helmets down in disgust has been fucking satisfying for the last two weeks.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Oh well
The Giants are 3-1 and they can let their complaints keep them up tonight.
The fact is that the zone was crazy for both teams tonight, their starter was not as effective as ours.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
+1
The fact that Bumgarner pitched the way he did with such an awful and unreliable strikeout impresses even more.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
looking at the pfx
I think TX did get somewhat the worse of it:
That is an embarrassing strike zone. The Used Car Salesman should be ashamed.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Bud Selig is no Used Car Salesman
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
gave him a bunch on the outside corner, but WTF low inside part of the zone?
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
definitely terrible
I’m seeing a lot of blown calls that went against us too, though.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
reminds me of those
two games against the Phillies with random strike zones. I think those were worse, but still when Halladay and Timmy and the batters from both teams are all yelling at the umpire over bad calls you know something’s wrong.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That green square in the middle of the plate is shocking. Such a shame.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
I wonder if the inexplicable strike up at (-1.5, .8) was a makeup call for that one.
That’s a terrible strike zone any way you slice it.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks even to me
8 out of zone strikes for Texas
7 for the Giants with one borderline (bottom of the zone)
However with balls right down the pipe Texas did get hosed
7 balls called that were in the zone for the Rangers
Only 1 for the Giants.
But they were complaining MadBum was getting inches on either side of the plate, and it looked like they were the recipient of just as many if not more.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
the thing about that tho
bum didn’t really throw any there. I mean after 3-4 of those you gotta realize he’s not gonna call that a strike
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
What I see is that tx got the farthest outliers too
Farthest in/out on each side of the plate called a strike.
Lowest strike.
The strike zone was high and outside to righties.
Variation is still high, but you can see where the strike zone was being called — high and outside.
If you add a few inches to the outside, then I think the distribution falls well within the strike zone.
Ump was obviously blind to the low/inside corner. After the 2nd inning, don’t go there.
They did have a few that should have been strikes but they got a lot off the plate too.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Strike one in Schierholtz’s first at-bat – you know, the one where he almost dropped in an RBI single, was a curveball a foot off the plate. It was pretty ridiculous.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I don’t care. Let them complain. Let them complain all winter until the next Cowboys game.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Let them complain all winter until the next Cowboys game.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Oct 31, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
SDCat makes an appearance too
Says we will be humiliated in the next 3 games.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
lol her
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
/chasm
That’s what SDCat said once, in response to jponry saying, “More like WHOREge-De La Rosa.” SDCat was offended, obviously.
Ah, gotcha.
I hang around a good bit during reg season, but it’s usually midnight or later my time when things wrap up, so I miss things from time to time.
i was hoping for this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Typical Rockies fan, being nice here, and talking behind our backs.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
funny how all our pitchers are so lucky in that regard
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
IT ARE A COINCIDENTS
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Bitter purplerow is bitter.
Did they bring up the humidor?
that is like 75% of the reason they’re so bitter
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They are convinced Matt Cain is a douche when in reality he’s one of the nicest guys on the team
by hautecouture on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m not sure on what planet Matt Cain is a douche.
But a few months ago, I did think bad things of Cody Ross…
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Hated him because of the bat flip against Cain. Turns out he’s just a giggly goofball.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I picture him earnestly saying “Tee-hee!” as he hops.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Dreaming of being a rodeo clown.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda picture him saying tee-hee all the time
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Oct 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Always after me Lucky Charms!”
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
'Yee Haw!'
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Ross did the bat flip which was kinda annoying but Cain? He’s considered a douche because he almost no hit their team…
by hautecouture on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
not directly, but yeah
On PR’s thread, there’s stuff about how somebody will need to tell the 2011 Giants that winners don’t whine and make excuses, and how Posey’s home run was like a Coors Field homer. Because, you know, he hit the ball over 400 feet and Arlington’s elevation is about 4,500 feet below Denver’s. A real cheapie.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
they can go fuck themselves
haters gonna hate. How did it work out in their only world series appearance? FUCK. OFF. BITCHES.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
/huffstrut
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking of going there and posting a post of nothing but swearing just to get banned
that would look good on my sbnation resume
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Might feel good at the time, but...
not exactly the best light to paint your primary SBNation site in, either.
Just sit back and think about the fact the Giants are in the fucking World Series, and all those fans are doing is sitting at their computer crying about how lucky we are, which is both ignorant and sad.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I think it’s kind of funny that PR and AN have Giants-hate threads. That used to just be for the Yankees, and now here’s a bunch of scrubs and kids that weenie board nerds find it worth their time to complain about.
It’s kinda awesome, especially if you just peek and laugh and leave.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It won’t be worth it, because you’ll be banned here too :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i kid i kid
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's the downside?
(I kid also)
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a famous and most apt saying:
“Living well is the best revenge.” (George Herbert, 1593 – 1633)
Sabean delendus est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I don’t get why so many people are talking about Buster’s HR like it was cheap. He hit that a really fucking long way.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
haters gonna hate
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s because Joe Buck wasn’t excited from the time when Posey hit it to the time it landed..
I know, I know. It’s shocking that Joe Buck might not be excited about an event in a baseball game, but it actually happened.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
A fly ball to center...
carrying back… oh, [dejected] a home run.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
well Kuip wasn't either though
it really carried a lot
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He was focused.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It was just what it seemed like
It seemed like a flyball off the bat. I was actually shocked when it went out.
Also, the Giants are lucky.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
It just 'looked'
like it wasn’t a home run off his bat, which is why some people are calling it cheap. I can somewhat understand that, and hey, it may not have gone out at Home. But, he hit it well, and we weren’t at Home. Same park they were playing in.
Dingerz happened.
If you look at Hamilton going back on that ball, he took it for a deep but easy fly ball.
Then it carried. And kept carrying. And then went 10 feet over the wall.
Off the bat it looked like a can of corn, but that’s how all Posey’s HRs to center field are. And no HR to center field is cheap.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
I was worried it had too much air under it, but he hit the crap out of that thing. Just kept going…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Go easy on them, their hitters have never had to backspin a ball. They just don’t understand why that happens.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Seriously? He did pitch well. So did Cain. Get over this crap.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll take being the luckiest team ever for one more game. please.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been seeing this a lot
The Giants being the luckiest team ever. It’s hard for some people to wrap their minds around the fact that this Giants team is actually good.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
GoofPLUS
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Do they really think that it’s all luck? We’re one win away from being f*in World Champions. It’s not just luck! FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
by withclubsauce on Oct 31, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If you follow their thread
they are also celebrating the Rangers’ “superiority”. It’s actually pretty awesome.
dear lord
Start here: http://www.lonestarball.com/2010/10/31/1786176/rangers-do-not-win-down-1-3-in-world-series#50859855
…and just watch the incredible epic fail that follows. Except for biff pocoroba.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
especially wtf
Several actually
Lee and Lincecum is a wash.
CJ stood toe to toe with Cain
Colby was far better than Sanchez
And Hunter made one mistake tonight.
Our pitching is not the problem right now.
by bigsteve on Oct 31, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, getting 2 swingthroughs in over 80 pitches = “made one mistake.”
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
He's right, you know
Hunter made one mistake tonight: starting
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
by Kitspool on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know.
They are totally out of control.
No mention by the way of the bullpen (not to say that I agree with the assessment on the starters).
Our bullpen was lights out.
Then we lost Frank Francisco, which threw our 8th inning plan into disarray. Now we lost Alexi Ogando. What was a great, great strength has become an ulcer waiting to happen.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ogando was lights out.
But he’s not an every-game kind of guy in the playoffs like you’d like to have, right? Eat 1-2 innings every 2-3 days, if I recall correctly.
Just a shame that your Darren+Darren suddenly are a bit volatile.
he's mangled the Giants well enough
to have gotten a self-promotion. It’s a tough break to lose him.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, 3.2 perfect innings in two relief appearances this Series, and you have to imagine that he would have gotten Uribe, too. He is the only guy in the bullpen besides Feliz who has given me reason to worry. That is to say, he and Feliz were the only two to prove mortal. Until further notice, we can’t hit them.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Is he that kind of guy?
I don’t know. Washington won’t use him that way, so I can’t find out. He’s never demonstrated that he struggled with it, though.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Ogando was a big loss for you guys tonight, no doubt. Reminded me of what happened to the Braves when Wagner went down with an oblique injury in the NLDS.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
GASP!
I just remembered that. What do y’all do to injure pitchers’ sides? Magic?
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
/me wiggles fingers.
We’ll…never tell.
So, about this Lee fellow?
/looks around for witnesses
/pushes dead goat behind the couch
/tries to wipe pentagram off the floor
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Shit, man.
Here, I’ll create a distraction for you.
SO, GUISE, ABOUT THIS XFIP THING….
Is this where jct is getting all his goat asses from?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly would agree that their pitching isn’t their problem. Lee had an unfortunate start, but nobody doubts that he’s an ace. Wilson pitched very well – that game was tight right up until the bizarreness of that bullpen fiasco after Wilson was pulled. Lewis pitched an excellent game. Hunter only gave up 2 runs – not great, over 4 innings, but he wasn’t getting hammered out there.
So yeah, their pitching isn’t their problem. Our pitching is.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Can't really disagree with the first 3 comparisons
Hunter could not for the life of him finish off a batter tonight. He had 40 pitches through just the first two innings or something?
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Courtesy of FanGraphs, via ESPN:
The Rangers needed 161 pitches to get through 24 outs against the Giants, averaging more than 20 pitches per inning.
The Giants needed 117 pitches total to get 27 outs against the Rangers. Bumgarner never threw more than 13 pitches in an inning. Bumgarner threw less than 10 pitches in 6 of his 8 innings. He threw 30 pitches total in the third through sixth innings. Wilson threw 11 pitches to finish a perfect ninth.
One sided pitching performance is one-sided.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
It's almost like this is a completely different team than the one we've been watching these last couple of years
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That’s probably a lot like how I would feel were I in their shoes.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
We waste too much time here discussing other blogs
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
/nods
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Wash, check out the starting pitchers for the next two games...
Lincecum
Cain
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
LL
Was going to jokingly challenge ESPN editors to come up with a Madison Bumgarner pun for their headline. Then http://bit.ly/bsMqE6
So lame
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
...
Wow.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
MadBum Is Able!
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 31, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Headline Fail
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Bum Fucked
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Mad. Bum.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
The Giants have a new song. It’s another remix of a classic! Sort of.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions
The Cataracs are from Berkeley though
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
And they remixed the number 1 song on the Billboard Top 100 to give props to the Giants…come on now…it’s pretty effin awesome
Like a G6 Number 1 on the BillBoard Top 100 list the past couple weeks. The Cataracts, Dev, AND FM remixed the song to give props to the Giants World Series Run
dang that’s a catchy tune, I don’t get it, but it’s too catchy!
where can I hear Giants version?
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
lol, I clicked your "youtube" link and was wondering why it didn't show up
by withclubsauce on Oct 31, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I realized when your comment kept disappearing haha!
by withclubsauce on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
too much LA taint
Unless it was just the Cataracts and Dev (modesto) doing the remix
My favorite so far is Bailey and San Quinn black and orange
and i also like Askhon’s Cody Ross one
Um....
ok what Giants designer in his right mind designs a hat with their rival’s colors?
(I really dislike those damn blue and white SF hats)
True
but at least that isn’t as obvious. Blue and white could have been just a fashion statement. Black and orange? um….that’s too obvious
Never has Timmy and Cain and pray for rain meant so much
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
Timmy and Cain and plan for parade?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
IRL LOL
Well done, sir. Well done.
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From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers and Cowboys lose
Suck it Texas!
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
Giants, Panthers just lucky
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Except it was JAC that totally destroyed Dallas
and Madison Bumgarner
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT A GAME.
Bumgarner.
Defense.
Rent.
This game was well played. We are one win away from being World Champions. Let’s f*in GO GIANTS!
Madison F. Bumgarner.
That is all.
"It’s the first time I’ve seen some absolute, unadulterated craziness out of that guy. I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did."--B. Wilson, re: Buster after Game 162
by duckcalldan on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
that's awesome
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Debbie does Dallas!!
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
I’d allow her to be in any position.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
by thebighead on Oct 31, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
bottom
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd hit this.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Probably strike out
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 31, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Put me in, coach
I’m ready to play…. today.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Foul tip?
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Check swing, out on appeal to third base
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Nice
I swing lefty too.
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Marissa Miller
FUCK YEAH!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s jon miller’s daughter WTF FTW!!!!
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
jest about what? that chick is hot
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 31, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
no, about her being his daughter
if so, that is a fact i was unawares
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
uh, yeah
Miller isn’t even her father’s name.
google is your friend.
And, as much as I like Jon Miller, I’m not sure how his genes make a Marissa Miller
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Post Game Haiku
Texas Ranger bats
Make harmless little zephyrs
Suck it, Hamilton
by Sawtooth on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Isn’t he their pitching coach?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought the world may end because every Bay Area teams may win today
But we still have the lowly Warriors. Thankfully losing.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That also happened two Saturdays ago
Cal, Stanford, the Giants, and the Sharks all won.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
But the two awful pro football teams winning the same day?
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The Raiders are hardly awful
They have outscored their previous two opponents by a combined score of 92-17.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The Raiders are awful regardless of their record.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry Grant,
But one win away from what? I’m not sure I follow.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
ARMEGEDDON
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
ARMAGEDDON
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Armandogeddon?
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AZIZANSARI
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
just got lucky for the 101st time this year!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
/throws self down the stairs
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 8:47 PM PDT reply actions
Btw, Flem’s call of Huff’s HR was awesome.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Twas epic.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This is basically how I feel at this moment.
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"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 31, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Shhhhh.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
What do the Rangers and Lyle Lovett have in common?
They both have 3 Ls.
"It’s the first time I’ve seen some absolute, unadulterated craziness out of that guy. I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did."--B. Wilson, re: Buster after Game 162
by duckcalldan on Oct 31, 2010 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Tom Meyer's cartoon in the Chronicle this morning...
by BeatLA55 on Oct 31, 2010 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 52 recs
Haha I like that
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
AWESOME
REC’D
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Like it, but Lincecum doesn't have a big nose
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
That’s fantastic.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
lulz
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT!
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
needs moar machine
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Oct 31, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t Huff be wearing a thong?
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
What time is the game tomorrow?
And who else is getting a sore throat and leaving the office around 2pm?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I am leaving at noon.
But that is because my mother flew into town today.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck that.
Me, tomorrow, about 3:00 or so:
“Tim Lincecum!”
/slamming of office door, sounds of motorcycle engine starting, tires squeeling, maniacal laughter…
I'm supposed to be at a meeting tomorrow.
I think maybe I’ll be at home trying to pass a kidney stone, or something. They never ask twice about that.
Oooh, kidney stone... I like that.
May I borrow that idea?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Sure.
It’s painful enough that they wince, wish you well, and don’t pester you about rescheduling for a while.
I just went through it recently. It fucking sucks.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Roommate in college had a nasty one.
I was the supporting friend of course. That is to say I laughed myself silly at him. I’m sure karma will bite me on the ass for that at some point.
this is what you go with
vomit and buttpee always cut off the follow-up questions.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What kind of a bike?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
nice. Doesn’t look like my employer offers an exhaust for the F4. We stopped at the F3.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Nov 1, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The Rangers loss
is all George Bush’s fault.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
mission accomplished!
/bans self
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope this is the last baseball game I see live.
I have EMT class at the same time as the game on Monday and Wednesday. I pray this was the last baseball game I watch live this season. I will trade in missing us win it live just for us to win this. I won’t this so bad!
LOL STRIKE ZONE
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
that was freddy sanchez’ first AB. i remember cause someone posted a strikemap of it
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Love Kuip's call
On Buster’s jack.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jaymee Sire....
heart flutters
My Photo Blog: http://eyeprints.tumblr.com
SIGN UP :D http://www.swagbucks.com/refer/ch3zyp00fs
I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Back off
She’s MINE!
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
can't compete with El Guapo
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Madison Bumgarner. Buster Posey. Aubrey Huff.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions
That is a strong point you make. I hadn’t considered that side of the argument previously.
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
by coolandtough on Oct 31, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Andres Torres?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
No really, Andres Torres, bitches.
CTRL+F only yields two results? Praise this man.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
I'm witchoo
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ANDRES TORRES!
He was awesome tonight.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I thought Huff
was going to start throwing things in the press room when the reporters kept asking him dumb crap about Texas (i.e. the state) while Torres sat there.
Then a British reporter asked a question about Timmy and I’m pretty sure he couldn’t figure out the accent as he didn’t respond at all.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
he didn't understand the question
at all.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Andres Torres. Ed the Rally Gar.
Sorry
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Freddy Leather Sanchez!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrow will be the most nerveracking game in most of our lifetime by a longshot
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
yep
you would think it would be stressless, because if the Giants lose they go back to SF just having to win one, but I’ll still be a nervous wreck. I don’t want to hear about Ranger momentum for two days if they win.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Stressless?
A 2010 Giants lead within 5 runs is the most stressful thing I’ve experienced as a baseball fan.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
naw. not even remotely.
Game 6 1987 was nerve wracking. Game 7 wasn’t quite so bad but it was awful at the beginning.
2002 game 6 is clearly the winner for most nerve wracking game ever.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Game six wasn’t nerve wracking, they were coasting throughout before the roof caved in.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
and then it was extremely nerve wracking. From the Spezio home run on…
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Update:
Giants Dugout Store sells out of Bumgarner jerseys…
I was wearing mine today!
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I tihnk Huff deserves some love for that bomb
Balls down the line that are crushed look like they go so far.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:52 PM PDT reply actions
What, it’s not a best of 9 series?
"In fact, I'm gonna try to squeeze my way through here, and uh... uh... [pause] well, now I'm getting crushed, Jon." - Dave Flemming, Giants Clubhouse, after NL Championship
by Caine Black Knife on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
wish they’d do it at the ballpark or at least advertise heavily. get a huge crowd there.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
just read on the chronicle blog that they were showing a potential clincher somewhere downtown, potentially Yerba Buena or Justin Herman i would guess, a lot nicer than Civic Center/UN Plaza.
wuh?
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The line as written in the film refers to an engineering team’s design for the carbon dioxide filter in the LM.
In real life, the phrase was used from time to time in various missions as a statement of praise.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I should have known this. Read Right Stuff and saw movie Apollo13 several times.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This. But in Lost Moon, Lovell's book,
He says that it’s about the highest compliment one can pay to another among pilots.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF dominates today
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Bomber Tomorrow!
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
I missed Kuip’s call of Posey’s dinger because I was shouting at the tv. Just heard it on the replay, and it had an awesome crescendo. pretty good stuff. pretty, pretty good.
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
Love it love it love it.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Giants first team with 4 playoff shutouts since 98 yanks 1905 ny giants
my god
by haroldansivakumar on Oct 31, 2010 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Only because Atlanta/Philadelphia/Texas were slumping
Historically good pitching staff!
wow...1905 was only 7 games or 9 or what?
We have extra games to work with.
Anyone ever get 5? I’m guessing not because 1905 was one of the first WS.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I like what FP said
The Braves, Phillies and Rangers didn’t just forget how to hit.
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Passan said that too
He said it’s amazing how the Giants pitchers keep running into teams in hitting slumps.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I have to think that was some sarcasm.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
not "some"
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
The Rangers are 0-1 in World Series games where two former Presidents of the United States who are related throw out the first pitch and the rendition of God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch sucks ass.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
SCIENCE
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rangers have won three playoff games at home in their history. All three were wins by Colby Lewis. Colby Lewis is likely not pitching tomorrow.
by biff pocoroba on Nov 1, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Madison Bumgarner.... Giants Legend
"In fact, I'm gonna try to squeeze my way through here, and uh... uh... [pause] well, now I'm getting crushed, Jon." - Dave Flemming, Giants Clubhouse, after NL Championship
by Caine Black Knife on Oct 31, 2010 8:54 PM PDT reply actions
Also:
Suck it, Bushes!
"In fact, I'm gonna try to squeeze my way through here, and uh... uh... [pause] well, now I'm getting crushed, Jon." - Dave Flemming, Giants Clubhouse, after NL Championship
by Caine Black Knife on Oct 31, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Mad Bum: World Series Hero
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hey there guys
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Oct 31, 2010 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 47 recs
hahahaha
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OH FACE
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
hahahahahah
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
/giggles
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
we’ve seen him do that so many times. i love how animated he is. when he K’s, he stomps back to the dugout. reminds me of when i was a little leaguer.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
...Huh.
What the hell is covering the midline of the SF logo?
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
I saw him at game 2 with his family
Saw Aurillia at game 1 on he bathroom.
by and0 on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
he played at Fresno State
Everyone in Fresno is rooting for the giants, especially at State.
LOL wtf Trent Dilfer is analyzing the Giants right now on ESPN.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
He played in SF so that makes him the most qualified person in the East Coast offices of ESPN
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hats off to the ump tonight
He was pretty consistent.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
MADISON BUMGARNER MADISON BUMGARNER MADISON BUMGARNER
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!!! ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!! ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!
WANNA HEAR IT AGAIN??? OOONNNEEE MMMOOORRREEE WWWIIINNN!!!!!!!!!!!
"He'll need a rocket up his ass to catch that one .... that baby's out of here!"
by GIANT stoner on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Irrefutable.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone needs to make a .gif of that girl with her mouth open after Andrus flew out in the ninth.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
That was REALLY funny. Especially because it was so delayed, I wonder what she was reacting to.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
I don’t know. We could have some fun with that though.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
/makes wookie noises
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Consider it done (see below)
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Oct 31, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Todd Wellemeyer
Thank you for warming up Maddy’s spot at the beginning of the year
I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce (Bochy)
I feel like the Wellemeyer era was years ago
"In fact, I'm gonna try to squeeze my way through here, and uh... uh... [pause] well, now I'm getting crushed, Jon." - Dave Flemming, Giants Clubhouse, after NL Championship
by Caine Black Knife on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon Medders
NEVER FORGET
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Wow
Medders pitched for the Giants as recently as May 19th, where he gave up 6 runs in 1 inning, ensuring an end to his time as a Giant.
That does seem like forever ago.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It is still weird to remember that he started this year as the 5th starter.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
look, stairs!!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
by jctGamer on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I haven't had an orthodox career
/wipes away tear
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
This guy was a genius
You guys are definitely overreacting. Beau Mills sucks and Bumgarner has high potential.
by giants92388 on Jun 7, 2007 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
And this guy was a retard
bumgarner has no secondary pitches
beau mills is a great right handed hitter who can hit for power and average with a good eye.
what the fuck are you smoking?
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Heh. I like his sig though
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
i wonder what happened to that guy, he used to post a lot
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WE TOOK FUCKING BUMGARNER WITH PORCELLO, AUMONT, MILLS AND HEYWARD ON THE BOARD?
CAN WE FIRE SABEAN ALREADY?
Matt Cain: He’ll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
I’m so disappointed.
Matt Cain: He’ll save children, but not the Dodger children.
by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
why did we convince ourselves that Mills was so good? lol.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol predraft hype
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
We really wanted a hitter
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Heh
Yes, we could have had
Torres CF
Heyward RF
Huff DH
Posey C
Ross LF
Uribe 3B
Sanchez 2B
Renteria SS
Ishikawa 1B
But Zito would have been pitching.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
No chance Cody Ross is starting if we have Heyward. Even if we still pick him up off waivers, Burrell would still be the starting left fielder.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
rec'd
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
well you were kinda right on heyward
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I was
Doesn’t mean I didn’t enjoy tonight.
Why the fuck did I want Aumont???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Thank you todd wellemeyer for running to hard to avoid a DP, you are a bay area legend for life.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Oct 31, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Imagine if you were told back in April that a MadBum-Posey battery would combine for a world series shutout…..
mother of god, yes!
by DimaK on Oct 31, 2010 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
well, i don’t really know what to say anymore.
Go Giants. Let’s fucking win this thing. I don’t know that I’m grasping how huge the significance of this is. The brink of 54 years of waiting.
my point exactly. it’s been a damn long time, and we are almost there. HOLY FUCKING SHIT
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFtober!
There’s only one.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
We all know who to blame here if the Giants don't do it
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Green, always.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Can't recognize the product.
Is it the iFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF?
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
Auto-wreck
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
hold that thought
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
22 out of 28 first pitch strikes. Holy crap.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
Unf unf unf.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Can you believe how close we are right now? Through the Brian Johnson home run, the glory of the Bonds/Kent era, Jose Cruz Jr’s clostly blunder, the woefulness and despair of the mid 2000’s, the rise of the young arm’s, and the torture of 2010.
We are one win away from partying until bodies force us to stop.
We are one win away from silencing the haters, from restoring glory to the city of San Francisco, and cementing the lore of this team of misfits, castoffs, and bearded crazies in the sanctity of baseball history. One. More. Win.
Cy Lincecain FTW
You will never silence the haters.
For whom facts are immaterial.
Sabean delendus est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
OWLCROFT!
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
It seems too premature to post a LOL experts with the series still going on. Let’s wait for 4-x Giants first please ><.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
In fairness, anyone who said "Rangers is 4, 5 or 6" can be LOL'd
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
such a countdown occurred during the Phils series
and proved to be nonjinxing
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
True facts.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Also thank you 1-2-3 Wilson
I was still quite nervous until Hamilton went 0-2
I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce (Bochy)
Non save situation!!
Miracle he got through it
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
nah
once Andrus was out, he had it all the way.
Extra credit: Posey for appealing the swing call to 3B AS HE HEADED OUT TO CONGRATULATE WILSON. Awesome.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
“Bitch please.”
Also, thank you Tampa Bay Rays for scouting Hamilton so well for us.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
HE DOESN'T SHUT UP
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Cain’d
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, feel bad for him lol
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 31, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB Network
had an interview with him about 10 minutes ago. Very charming, admitted he’d been pressing a little bit in the NLCS.
by Duelling Brandos on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
not gonna lie
andres says the same thing every time when asked a different question, he’s not a good interview
It's a bless
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I expect
he’s a better interview with the Spanish-language channels. He had no idea at all what the British-accented reporter asked him.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Spends too much time being awesome to work on his press conference demeanor.
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Huge double by Torres hitting from his weak side as well
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Also taking a pitch the opposite way with 2 strikes
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
That was a monster double.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Yup. Right before he did that I explained to my wife how he isn’t very good from the right side.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You should spend all game
Telling your wife how all the Giants will get out and Cliff Lee will pitch a CGSO
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I noticed this after the game. Any time that Andres gets legit XBH from the right side, it makes me feel a lot better about him.
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that was my favorite
like she was tasting the pain!
by sf_get_some on Oct 31, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
the comments are killing neyer for the BS he put out tonight!
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/6118/bumgarner-leaves-little-room-for-doubt
Matt Cain, "You can call me Aaron Burr BY THE WAY I'M DROPPIN' HAMILITONS!"
Man, it started out alright, I thought
Then the garbage quickly came out
and he deserved them. The article is a bunch of one-sided observation and a conclusion that makes no sense.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
In the bottom of the eighth, Francoeur hit a fly ball that Cody Ross corralled at the base of the wall in left field.
How the fuck is that a break?
and Josh Hamilton made a run-saving diving catch. LUCK
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
In the bottom of the second, Jeff Francoeur lined a shot toward right field, but Sanchez made a fantastic play to snag it. That’s a skill play, obviously. But it’s also a luck play, because the great majority of balls hit that hard result in singles and doubles.
Really? Thats baseball.
I was thinking the same thing.
What is Neyer’s definition of a break?
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it
What was wrong with this piece, exactly? He said the Giants have out-played the Rangers.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But he is saying it's due to a large luck factor.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
??
If all of these plays go the other way, the Giants probably still win.
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Having said all that — and giving due credit to Aubrey Huff and Buster Posey for their power, and to Freddy Sanchez for his flashy fielding — duty compels me to at least mention that the Giants were exceptionally fortunate in Game 4.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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To sum up
Let’s forget that the Giant’s actually played well, the Giant’s were lucky.
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by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
But he says they would have probably won even without that luck
Are you denying that we got more close calls than the Rangers that game? Because that would be silly.
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Regardless, it’s really annoying to try to take away credit from the GIants, which he has been doing consistently.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are just looking for bias
If you can’t dispute Neyer’s facts, why are you mad?
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Luck is a touchy subject at the moment
Neyer isn’t necessarily doing this, but a lot (a LOT) of people are not giving the Giants their just due right now.
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Some of these are not breaks, some of them were good defense
But he calls them breaks, then ignores one that went Texas’ way, like the Hamilton dive catch.
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Ah, I see
We are mad at Rob Neyer because he forgot about one catch, and thus hates the Giants?
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Sanchez gets lucky on his tough defensinve play because he made it
Torres gets lucky on Moreland’s tough defensive play because he didn’t make it.
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Neyer also wrote an article titled "Can Giants thank steroids for Cody Ross?" a few days back
That count?
Did you, you know, READ that article?
It was all about Jose Guillen getting left off the roster.
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Of course I did
But as someone who writes articles for a less read but still heavily-read site, you NEVER leave something that insane as a headline whether it’s done by a higher-up or yourself.
It’s incredibly bad form, especially with the way ESPN uses their front page.
Reallllly grasping for straws
Are you even sure Neyer writes his headlines?
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He does not.
Like virtually every reporter and columnist, regardless of medium, he has zero control over headlines placed over his work. Which is idiotic, but very long-established custom.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Never said he did
But at least from my experience, getting your supervisors to modify a headline is absolutely possible. Hell, it’s necessary for something like this where it brings in something totally different from the article.
Here you go.
In the top of the second, first-base umpire Jeff Kellogg missed a call that negated what should have been a double play. It was an exceptionally close play, but Kellogg missed it. As a result, Tommy Hunter threw 11 more pitches in the inning (which couldn’t have helped him, later).
How exactly would this been have been a good thing? Hunter was getting away with poor pitching and his pitch count may have just swayed Washington enough to pull him early, which I think was a good move. If he kept him in, the damage could have easily been worse. You could easily argue that this resulted in a break, as it forced a manager has been making bad decisions all postseason to make a move.
In the bottom of the second, Jeff Francoeur lined a shot toward right field, but Sanchez made a fantastic play to snag it. That’s a skill play, obviously. But it’s also a luck play, because the great majority of balls hit that hard result in singles and doubles.
In the top of the third, Andres Torres hit a shot off first base and wound up with a double. It would have been a tough play for Mitch Moreland, but the tough play became an impossible play.
You kind of just contradicted yourself. If Moreland does make that play, it’s unlucky, as Torres hit the ball hard enough that he should have got the hit. The result we got is basically what should have happened based on how Torres hit the ball, so it’s not really luck that the play just happened to get more difficult, because if he does make that play, it would have been very unlucky for the Giants.
In the top of the seventh, Torres hit a ball to the warning track that one-hopped the fence … and missed by about a foot actually bouncing over the fence for an automatic double. Which would have cost the Giants a run, as Edgar Renteria wouldn’t have been able to score from first base. (The next hitter grounded out to end the inning.)
If you hit a ball that hard, you deserve to advance the runner three bases. If it went over, it would have been lucky.
In the bottom of the eighth, Francoeur hit a fly ball that Cody Ross corralled at the base of the wall in left field.
That was good defense, not luck, shithead.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
My whole issue with this article
is what’s the point?
Well, the point is that a guy who picked the Rangers to win the series is covering himself.
That’s annoying.
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
He tried to cover himself last night
He was on “The V Show” on ESPN Radio last night and said “As you know Bob (Valvano), I picked the Giants in 6”.
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1st point – Hunter gave up a home run the next inning. It is ALWAYS better to get more pitches off of a starter. Always.
2nd – That was Neyer’s point – hard hit balls usually go for hits. The fact that Andres’s did and Francouer’s didn’t is a break.
3rd – It’s possible that if the ball bounces over, the umps force Rent to hold. It’s lucky it didn’t.
4th – Another hard hit ball, which usually go for hits. That one did not.
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Hmm
3. I doubt it as he was already standing on second when the ball bounced of the grass.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, you basically managed to completely ignore all of my points and just regurgitate the shit Neyer threw at us, but I’ll address your points regardless.
1st point – Hunter gave up a home run the next inning. It is ALWAYS better to get more pitches off of a starter. Always.
And it’s not like he was pitching with a particularly high pitch count at that point. You can’t accredit it to pitch count anymore than you can accredit the Giants’ luck that Hunter got away with only g
iving up four runs and wasn’t allowed to pitch past the 4th. Hunter most likely pitches into the Fifth and his run expectancy is higher than what they got out of Ogando.2nd – That was Neyer’s point – hard hit balls usually go for hits. The fact that Andres’s did and Francouer’s didn’t is a break.
YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. If you’re going to say the expected result of a hard hit ball that is caught is unlucky, you can’t say that the expected result of a hard hit ball that results in a hit is lucky.
3rd – It’s possible that if the ball bounces over, the umps force Rent to hold. It’s lucky it didn’t.
…And that would be unlucky. Any external factor that helps the team is a break, including the ballpark. The ballpark not having any benefit in regards to bailing out the Rangers isn’t unlucky; it’s what is supposed to happen. Just because the Rangers weren’t bailed out on a hard hit ball scoring a run doesn’t mean they were unlucky.
4th – Another hard hit ball, which usually go for hits. That one did not.
If Cody Ross had enough time to run back to the warning tack and make the catch, it’s not nearly a hard enough hit ball to deserve a hit. It’s good defense.
It seems like you’re a lot more biased to believing whatever Neyer writes than the other way around.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not what he says, it’s about how he goes about saying it. I get that Neyer is trying to take a third-party angle at the game, but every time the Giants play well it needs some ridiculous preamble about how the ball bounced their way. It’s like he’s conceding that the Giants outplayed the Rangers, instead of just coming out and saying it.
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Neyer’s facts
…Where are they? He lists a bunch of examples ranging from disputable to ridiculous.
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not saying anything
because this is not my article. He spouts a long article about all the breaks the Giants got to win the game, how they were extremely fortunate, throws in a clause about how they still would have won anyway but it would have been closer, does not mention any of the “breaks” for Texas in the game.
It was a dumb article, and I am labeling it as such.
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Yeah I just read it and agree
How should this last paragraph be taken after most of the article listing all his “breaks” the Giants got?
To this point, the managers and the breaks have been mostly irrelevant. To this point, the results have almost perfectly reflected the performances of the guys with the bats and the gloves. This does make “analysis” somewhat difficult. But there’s something to be said for the players who play better actually winning.
I agree that they got some favorable calls at first, but other than that just STFU.
I hate writers who are like this. They write an article trying to make a point, but then they say “but it wouldn’t have mattered anyway!” because they’re afraid to stand tough on something, and want to be able to say “well, look what I said! It excuses all the bullshit I wrote otherwise!”
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Neyer writes his articles before the end of the game.
ESPN wants an analysis piece ready the moment the game ends. Neyer is the guy hired for that. So he usually comes up with the theme of his article either before the game or during the game.
He decided to monitor breaks, and that’s what he wrote up.
He can’t, and ESPN woudn’t have wanted him to, rewrite the whole article since the game ended with a four run differential.
But the result wasn’t a close game, so he readily admitted that the breaks wouldn’t have mattered.
he says that The Giants outplayed the Rangers about 40 times over the course of that piece
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Again, it’s not about the conclusion of the piece, it’s about the angle. Instead of a yes, it’s a “yes, but.” Bumgarner pitched well, but Kellogg helped him out. The Giants played good defense, but it was lucky. The Giants got the big hits, but got lucky." “Oh, and I’m going to reiterate with my hindsight bias that Bochy should have flip-flopped Bumgarner and Sanchez because of a pessimistic outlook on Game 7.”
Why does all this biased gristle belong in the article? Why was Francoeur’s fly ball to the warning track unlucky, but Uribe’s fly ball to the same spot not? Why was Sanchez’s play lucky, but Hamilton’s play not?
To Neyer, that the Giants played better baseball is not a conclusion, but a concession. It’s bad journalism.
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Madison pitches a gem
and the best article he can come up with is listing “breaks” the Giants got? Balls hitting bases, balls hit to the warning track as ‘breaks’? Really? I agree about the calls at first. The one was extremely close the other one was bad.
Sounds like whining to me even if you add lots of caveats. More like, “I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’”.
Why are people so angry about this article? I agree with most of it – we definitely got more bounces. But he’s not saying we got lucky, he basically says outright that we outplayed them and deserved to win.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
the bottom line is...
Matt Cain, "You can call me Aaron Burr BY THE WAY I'M DROPPIN' HAMILITONS!"
by jazzhands on Oct 31, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
yup
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
word
I’ll take the World Series on luck. Losers bitch about luck. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
Thank you, San Francisco Giants, for dressing up as a Huge Win for Halloween.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
David Allan Coe!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
ESPN experts update
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
by humm baby on Oct 31, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 13 recs
haha!
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by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants fan going way back.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But wait!
Neyer was quoted on ESPN Radio this morning as saying, “As you know, Bob, I picked the Giants in six.” So that graphic must be wrong. I used to have a lot of respect for Neyer. But that was before this post-season.
by mrs. owlcroft on Oct 31, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Great British accent followed by...
Ralph
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I thought so lol!
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by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Last night, I said:
“Just win one of the next two and leave it in the hands of Matt Cain in Game 6. That is all.”
Tonight, I say:
“Fuck that. Win it Game 5, Timmy!”
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 31, 2010 9:03 PM PDT reply actions
yeah i think everyone thinks we have no chance against cliff lee tomorrow. but with timmy pitching, we are always in the driver’s seat!
No one here gets out alive.
I can’t believe how overlooked Timmy is right now
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe how non-awesome he’s been his last two starts.
by Every6thDay on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The last start against Philly was pretty good. He got hit a little bit and got hurt a lot by bad defense in the third, but was otherwise awesome.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but I am hoping having the chance to drive the stake through the heart will get him to grit out a good game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This game was most good
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
It was aight.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I just hear Ralph Barbeieri (sp?)
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Joe Pesci
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
OK do we need a reality check?
We worried about Timmy’s start.
We had a live discussion if Cain’s performance was dominate or not.
We freaked out about a starting pitcher that gave up 4 runs.
We have a rookie pitching 8 shut out innings in the WS.
This is an unbelievable level of good.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 31, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Rangers Grrl:
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Oct 31, 2010 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 32 recs
LOL!!!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on Oct 31, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad and I LOL'd at that one
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by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
cock?
For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .
by WilltheThrill on Oct 31, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Josh”
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Could you possibly get a gif of Holland? He was putting his glove up to his face and one of his glove laces
formed a perfect moustache. He did it twice, I believe.
SHAPE OF: A DINOSAUR
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Best Cry Ever
Did anyone see that SNL sketch with Jon Hamm last night? I nearly died laughing at that.
by Murray, Present on Oct 31, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Eddie's not on, but there is a guy who may well be the next Eddie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E39PO0NTRlo
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. My. God.
That’s freakish good. I can do a mean Irish accent, but the ratio of that compared to that guy and eddie murphy is sick.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
A cool gif would be of Denorfia flying out of her mouth
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
plenty of ugly people here to...
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by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
...really?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
WRONG
(a minority are ugly, I’ll give you that)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
you sir, are very very very wrong
I have seen the future of Major League Baseball, and its name is Buster Posey.
by atxgiantsfan on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I was amazed how many good looking TX women there were.
I lived in Dallas for one year.
I finally figured it out.
There are a few 9 -10 in every town.
However, in Dallas, the 4,5, and 6s try so hard, that they elevate. They were more LA than LA.
The makeup/hair/surgery and effort placed on appearance creates a larger pool of good looking women.
Once I figured that out, the spell was broken.
I just… I don’t… what the?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the guy behind her put it in the wrong hole
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
LOL YOU HADN'T HEARD OF YOUR TEAM 2 WEEKS AGO YOU BANDWAGONING LOSER
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Yes!
As soon as I saw that on tv I told my roommate that will be on the interwebs in a few minutes.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The found Waldo!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He should throw out a first pitch in San Francisco
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 1, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Awesome shit about this game:
-Huff jacks it!
-Torres 3-5 from the right side, including RIBEYE
-Our defense in general
-Posey 1st postseason homer, here’s hoping first of many
-Posey ain’t havin’ Hamilton
-Madison Motherfucking Bumgarner
-Damn I love our announcers
-2nd time Tex is shut out at home all season!
-Madison Motherfucking Historic Bumgarner
-One Win Away
I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce (Bochy)
by rhythmismt on Oct 31, 2010 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
that sounded like a pop fly
when he hit it. but i’ll take it!
“LEAVE BENGIE ALONE!”
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I’m ready for TheLetter2’s newspaper post.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
I’ll try to have it ready by 5:00 a.m. PDT, but it could run as late as 7:00 a.m. Pacific.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Take your time
No need to rush.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Does Grant ever rush a post?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
It’s not a big deal. I’m two hours ahead, remember? I’m in the studio while you guys are asleep.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
You're already at work?
I thought I had shitty hours.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Yep
Your hours are shittier than mine. I have to be at work by 5 in the morning. Good thing about working that early? You get off around Noon-to-1 and get to take a nap before the Giants game.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
But in our respective time zones, you’re at work earlier. I show up at 5:30 a.m. Central.
And I won’t be able to see much of the game, if any, because I have a wind ensemble concert tomorrow night.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Good luck with it
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
KIDNEY STONES
Yeah, I couldn’t back out of a concert I had to perform in either. But damn, it’d suck to miss the game.
My saving grace is that we wrap on time and I’m back home to catch the latter third or so.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Better that way
than leaving in mid-torture, and fretting over it the whole concert.
Although honestly, I tend to forget about the world once the music is in front of me, so might not be that bad.
I get to my classroom at 6:30, and on day like this I log onto McC right away. I’ve heard that in some school districts, they block sites like this.
Of course, I’d never log on during an actual class.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I come here for gifs
Mute Buck and McCarver. Enjoy baseball again:
http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio/radiodelay.html
Yahoo Headline
“Texas Massacre”
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2 great stats
- only 2 swing-and-misses all night for the Giants, both Schierholtz
- Torres + Sanchez saw 31 pitches from Hunter
LOL NATE
Way to go table setters.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
they really mangled him
I don’t remember the Giants fouling off that many pitches in, well, ever.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if this has been used...
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
by ZenPop on Oct 31, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
He's your friend when things get rough!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, remember when MadBum was sucking hard in Spring Training?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Remember when nerds were saying "Top prospect my ass league average innings eater at best"
LOLOLOL BOSTON MEDIA
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
LOL
Would have been a lovely ending to the season with that clown in our line up.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Remember when he threw 8 shut out innings in the World fucking Series?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone make a GIF of Chris Farley asking this to Paul McCartney, STAT.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
that was awesome
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Yes
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants first big winning streak occured after Paul and his crew ripped up the grass at AT&T...
Paul is a good luck charm.
I forgot about that, CF was ugly for a week or so.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently Washington wanted him for Josh Willingham too
Willingham’s agent confirmed that
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
LOL Rick Porcello!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Beau Mills!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw the Bumgarner/Posey battery in Reno this year; the second game of the season.
Bumgarner: 5IP, 5 ER
Posey: 1-4(5?), solo HR
I live in Reno, and although Reno is Arizona’s AAA affiliate, Reno is 75% Giants fans, 20% A’s, and 5% assorted others. So while everyone around me panicked, I calmed the masses by explaining the prophecy that was the Bumpo battery. I felt like the Pope.
by JSing on Oct 31, 2010 10:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Torres on MLB Network
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
HOWARD STERN'S PENIS!!!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
One To Go
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
make the blue background behind the giants logo into a triangle
and you’ve got yourself a winner
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
I ♥ Andres even more now for shutting down dipshit @ MLB for trying to stir up drama bout TX!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
MLB guy was saying (and I’m paraphrasing cuz MLB is still assaulting my ears) “you used to play for TX, is it extra vindication for beating them since they let you go?” but Torres stayed superclassy and shut.it.down. with “TX was always respectful to me and they were good to me while i played for them” etc. Didn’t really even answer the question-Torres has a low BS tolerance :D
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
by SoCalGgal on Oct 31, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I has a mancrush for Torres
….well ok I have a mancrush on the entire team….except Guillen…I hate him so much
you have good taste sir, goldfish have no business in a Giants uni
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
meh, I did that wrong, but who cares, GIANTS WON!!!!!!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
IKR?! but gah this thread is a BEAST, takes me days to find anything!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
if only this part of the thread was long and narrow, it’d be so much easier to find! ;)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
OMG, I just found out there was an overflow thread, just call me the White Rabbit! this interwebs thing is hard and I’m a gurl!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
by vhants on Oct 31, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
/fart noise
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
z
Players who stepped up:
Torres
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
Renteria
Wilson
Players who were decent:
Bumgarner
imagine if Mad Bum threw to his ability.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn't go nine
The kid has no future.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He would've thrown a CG if he had postseason experience
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Overrated
Needed the closer to bail him out with a 4-run lead.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
meh
by then all his luck had run out anyway. It was just a matter of time before they got another runner all the way to second base. And to third. And then home. And then did it 3 more times.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
oldie but goodie
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
Posey being interviewed
Dude corrects reporters
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
what did he say?
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Reporter: “You finally got a fastball and hit it out”
Posey: “It was a slider”
Reporter: “Well it looked like a fastball”
Posey: “It was a slider”
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 31, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
Having it.
He ain’t.
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
One might reasonably expect a catcher to know how to identify different pitches.
Mute Buck and McCarver. Enjoy baseball again:
http://www.botecomm.com/bote/radio/radiodelay.html
lol
well played
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that helped carry it
I’ve seen sliders just pop off bats
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
It was CSNBA
Now Torres is on
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Madbum was correcting the reporters about stuff too
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 31, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
what people have been saying for the last three years is true
we are a nightmare in a short series
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
The pitching’s OK.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Can Georges I and II throw out the first ball again tomorrow?
(superstitious)
This series is still not over until one team wins four games.
That said, I feel a whole lot better than I did four hours ago.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
it's much nicer to think about winning one out of three
and them having to win three out of three.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLOL
Matt Cain got off the team bus today dressed as a whoopie cushion. He’s Kruk’s player of the game.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
That’s awesome.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, this win is really all thanks to Todd Wellemeyer.
After all, if he didn’t suck so bad in the beginning of the season, we might not have MadBum up in the majors at all. Wellemeyer for WS MVP! Who’s with me?
Well you have to remember
He hurt himself while he was pitching great against the reds in a blowout trying to beat out a bases loaded DP.
Dude’s a gamer.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
If he did not suck so bad,
would there have been a problem?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yes
Even if he pitched better than he actually did, that would still be a far cry from what Bumgarner has done. He’d be a serious ROY contender most years.
by WasabiTorture on Oct 31, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk is on fire
He came as a Whoopee Cushion!
Players of the Game
Kuip – Huff
David B. – Madison
Kruk – Buster
Jon – Andres
(I think I butchered this. hopefully not too bad)
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions
gold glove earned. saved the game early.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, say what you will about George W Bush
Dude knows how to throw a first pitch.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
if only he’d pursued pro baseball as a career
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently it was between him and Selig for Commissioner
Then he pursued politics
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
If W became commish, no interleague, no realignment of the divisions.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have more respect for him than most, but yes he seems llke a regular dude
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
he’d probably go on and on about RBIs
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember dude was in the booth on ESPN's opening night a few years back
It was the first game in the Nationals’ new park, and he was in the booth with Miller and Morgan. The guy seemed pretty chill in regard to baseball and obviously just wanted to watch the game and talk a little, but Morgan kept badgering him on all kinds of shit. Bush was pretty gracious still.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Joe Morgan was badgering George W. Bush?
I’m crestfallen I missed that.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Damn my diction
Rephrase: Joe Morgan was asking Bush a bunch of stupid little questions most of the time.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Oh, I understood you perfectly
I’m still bummed I didn’t see it.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Oh hahaa I see
You never know with McC responses….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
DID THE PLATE HAVE WMD?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Woopie Cushion
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:16 PM PDT reply actions
This Whoopie Cushion story makes me love Cain even more
<3
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
KNBR post game and Raj, all those years multi tasking making dividends.
I'm talking about Mountain Dews baby.
Can I get a....
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuck yeah????
Also, I’ve been lurking for a while. Hello everyone.
Last year
I signed up under this name, mainly because I had no clue what to call myself on here.
I think I made a pretty solid choice
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
you did. we thank you.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 31, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
ftfy
I signed up under this name, mainly because Ihad no clue what to call myself on hereknew Madison Bumgarner would pitch 8 shutout innings in the World Series for the Giants.
You really need to tell a more compelling narrative. Ken Rosenthal can help.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Neyer on ESPN:
“Having said all that — and giving due credit to Aubrey Huff and Buster Posey for their power, and to Freddy Sanchez for his flashy fielding — duty compels me to at least mention that the Giants were exceptionally fortunate in Game 4. "
This is beyond torture. This is beyond baseball.
2010 off-season
Rob Neyer goes on nationwide tour to locate his credibility.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THAT TOOL THINKS?!?!?!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently MCC commenters have appointed themselves
The ‘find anti-Giants bias in the media brigade!’
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Is it cold up on that pedistal?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
..
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I hated these fuckers
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 1, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s really not that difficult.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
do ESPN types say the Yankees got lucky after each win? no.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I"m crushing Makers and Cranberry. It’s like Bochy, not very good but it is getting the job done
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That makes me hungry for a peanut butter and steak sandwich.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
there's no reason to dilute Maker's
oh, wait. Do you have a UTI? Cranberry juice is supposed to help with that.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Very few people
would get that abbreviation.
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Cranberry juice aficionados know what’s up.
Seriously, though. I love Maker’s. I love cranberry juice. But what in the absolute fuck?
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I am amused
that there is a technical college that goes by that handle
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
No
it’s the become a Diesel mechanic on tv, uh, that’s not a mascot, uh, the spartans
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Don’t do that
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 1, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Posey
Took a pic with the fan who got his ball, signed another one so he could get his first WS HR ball back.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
nice one
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
ha, the kid told Buster he was on his fantasy team
"Notre Dame will win the BCS national championship. Count it." -PiKAgiant
by HoosierGiant on Oct 31, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha nice
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Where did you see this?
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB Network
"Notre Dame will win the BCS national championship. Count it." -PiKAgiant
by HoosierGiant on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at Cody Ross with the glasses talking to Jaymee.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
they're the same size
I think they’re half-elves.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Amazing game.
I look forward to spending the next 20+ hours on the verge of tears with the rest of you.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Man, LSB really thinks it is bad form to even post in the opposing team's forum
is LSB the only place that doesnt do this horseshit of going to the other teams blog in the middle of big games/series/etc to "talk shop"/troll?
for real dude
is it too much to ask for giants to fans to really stay out of the post game thread at LSB?
i mean, seriously? is it too much to ask
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
We had lots of back and forth with TGP
There was no problems.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
before the series, sure. but they’re on the verge of having their dreams shattered. it’s best to stay away.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
There were plenty of comments
from them on here and us on there (TGP) during the NLCS.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
yeah
please, imagine what it would be like if the shoe were on the other foot?
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Thankus for the truth
Dr. Stankus.
Gallo pledges not to taunt.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody's talking about taunting
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I would ban the people who came over and wrote, “Gee, great game, it’s too bad both teams couldn’t win!” Because fuck that passive-agressive nonsense.
The back and forth with The Good Phight is the exception, not the rule.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, maybe I'm an idealist then
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I agree with this
I semi-trolled AN for their ridiculous bitching about the Giants, but wouldn’t do it to a team we were playing. Fuck that noise.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Nico has been a nice visitor
no need to make their silly self-loathing worse than it appears.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd probably be banned if you did that.
Little surprised I haven’t been yet, actually, as I’m not 100% a Giants fan.
you weigh as much as duck
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Go easy, he’s not a Giants fan.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I am, and have been for years. I'm well aware of the torture that lies within, and what precisely this means to the fanbase as a whole.
Just…I’m not ‘only’ a Giants fan.
/hangs head in shame.
Try not to hold it against me.
turn him into a newt
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i had nothing but good times on The Good Phight, win or lose. they were a cool bunch, minus some idiots
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I've always had a good experience with TGP
I think a lot of it has to do with Philly and Giants fans getting along really well. They hate the Dodgers, we had the Dodgers, whoever won the NLCS would root for the other.
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Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
Don't troll then.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I have posted not a thing
And I would look down on trolling. What they are complaining about is not trolling, by the way.
I just think it’s a shame because I think it is healthy to have conversations in good faith with the opposing fan base. Not taunting. Not trolling. But good natured conversations.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Why even comment on there as a Giants fan as a loss?
Regardless of how humble you are, you are going to come off as trolling.
I really don’t see the need to comment…just read if you are curious.
i was planning on just reading, but the level of “our offense sucks and the giants and just lucky” made me just kinda say dude, this is how good our pitching really is.
might just be part of the whole “give the giants some respect” thing that we’ve all been sick of hearing how the giants never win, the other team loses.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Your pitching is very, very good. Your defense is very, very good.
And they are putting up great numbers at a perfect time. You also have the 9th best xFIP in the majors. Obviously, your defense has been integral in the run prevention, but there is some degree of luck involved.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
as you can say about every team that has success in the WS
“They got hot at the right time”
Duh. It was one on one competition. Hotter wins.
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Where did I say otherwise?
I’m just addressing the part where he said “our pitching is really that good.”
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Right.
I don’t think anybody at LSB will deny that you guys will have probably beaten the living shit out of the Rangers all through the series if you end up winning, and thus, deserved to win..
Just that this series is derived from a small sample size, whereas a full season’s sample of evidence would suggest that the Rangers were a better team.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
wait, what?
The Rangers do not lose three of four to the Giants, sure. But neither of these teams is that far from the other, and neither is the class of the playoffs.
You're correct. But the link below:
http://dallas.sbnation.com/texas-rangers/2010/10/26/1770574/the-world-series-preview
That would suggest that the Rangers could be favoured reasonably, and that’s where the root of everything being currently said at LSB starts.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
And by that, I mean you're right about how neither team is particularly superior to another.
But the Rangers seemed to show a reasonable statistical edge, at least from regular season samples.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
connotation, I guess
To me, the locution ‘X was the better team’ implies ‘X was the clearly better team,’ and the Rangers are not the clearly better team. Going into the series, I thought the Vegas odds were pretty fair, which iirc favored TX by a slim margin. If that’s where you’re hanging your ‘the Rangers were a better team’ hat, by all means, have at it.
I think we're fine in that regard.
Just that some Giants fans did attempt to go to LSB and call people out on it, which caused a lot of anger.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I guess it's a different standard.
I very much like participating in the angrydome thing at LSB, only it does mean that well-meaning visitors are crapped on at certain spots (i.e. right after losses; morning threads are okay) unless they choose their words extremely carefully.
Which is different to here, or so it seems, and I like this sort of thing too.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I had no problems this morning at all
asking questions about your team and gently responding to a couple of things.
I won’t be visiting tonight, because I’m not an idiot.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i know i had nothing to do with any of that, since i dont even like saber stats- ruins the fun for me.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
would it really?
the full season sample I saw of the Rangers vs the Giants was 90 wins for texas and 92 for SF.
funny.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you factor in the part that Rangers play in the tougher league?
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Winning 90 games in the AL is like winning 105 in the NL! Especially when you’re in the powerhouse AL West!
105? Try 120
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Read the preview above, which is a fairly comprehensive analysis
of things sabermetrically.
I’m not implying it’s the fault of the fans of either team, just that I think we had a reason to be optimistic.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
sometimes, dude, you just have to understand that saber-stats can’t explain everything.
the Giants win and lose as a team, probably better than anyone in baseball. Bad loss? They bounce back and win the next day.
Some things just can’t be explained, and that is why this sport is so great.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we maybe try to avoid saying “Sometimes, dude, you have to change what you believe because I think you’re wrong”?
There are sabermetric explanations for all sorts of things. Believing they tell a story is fine. Ignoring them is fine. The end.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
i didnt mean to imply he was wrong and that he should believe something else.
But if the Rangers are statistically the better team, why are we up 3-1? If statistics ruled all, we should be down in the series, not up.
That’s what I meant by “saber-stats cant explain everything”
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
This "bouncing-back" thing is what they say about the Rangers too, so isn't that even?
But anyway, I would argue that more often that not, saber stats do tend to get the things right.
Thus I think that there was a perfectly legit reason to believe such-and-such, by making deductions of statistical analysis.
People who don’t believe that sort of stuff are entitled to their opinion, it’s only when they call out those who do, that conflicts arise. If they ignore one another, then nothing really happens.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
It's easily explained.
It’s baseball. If everything played out exactly as the probabilities indicated, I wouldn’t watch baseball. Doesn’t mean sabermetrics aren’t the most useful tools for predicting/analyzing games, though.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
NL vs. AL
But far more important is how dynamic (meaning changing, not talented) these teams have been. Look at the personnel changes each team has gone through (Burrell, Posey, Bumgarner, Ross for y’all). There aren’t the teams that won 90 and 92 games. Our rotation at one point was Feldman as our #1, then Harden at #2, CJ, Colby, then Matt Harrison. 3 of those aren’t on the postseason roster.
We had a revolving door of suck at 1B. Kinsler, Cruz and Hamilton missed signficant amounts of time.
I’m sure y’all have more roster-shenanigans than I’m aware of, so in the end, regular season records are kind of meaningless here.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Full season is totally indicative of small series samples!
Depth of rotation, bullpen, bench, and farm system are totally relevant when very little of it factors in!
The top 4 of your starting rotation absolutely is not magnified whatsoever!
Having your full lineup healthy when playoffs comes around is worthless!
Wheeeeeeee!
Giants are a far better team in a short series than in a longer stretch of games.
Rangers strike me as the deeper, slightly more talented team, yes.
But I’ll take our top 4 in the rotation, and back end of the bullpen over theirs, which is a deciding factor in smaller sample sizes. Baseball happens, and baseball happened.
One more win.
we have the more balanced team. in a short series, if you’re not balanced, you won’t win.
Cliff Lee can’t win 2 games in one start, but 4 damn good starters can win each of their games.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently,
CJ and Colby Lewis are worthless, right?
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Certainly not worthless.
But I still give the Giants top 4 an edge over the Ranger’s top 4. A large part of that is the 4th starters, but the first 3 are fairly even, with the Giants maybe having a tiny edge. It’s close, though.
I would give a slight edge to the Rangers in the top 3.
Based on better fielding independent numbers. Your defense is better than Texas’s, though, so it’s a wash.
Bumgarner, however is better than any other 4th starter that were in the playoffs.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? My understanding of it was that Wilson is basically your version of Sanchez: ridiculously good when he’s on, but has a tendency to get wild and walk everyone in sight sometimes.
He has a FIP that is .44 lower than Sanchez's in a hitter's park.
However, there is a .64 difference between his FIP and his xFIP. That was my only point
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
AT&T isn’t actually a pitcher’s park unless you’re facing a lineup of 9 Johnny Damons.
Don’t tell anybody.
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It's a home-run-suppressing park.
Particularly for LHBs. Cain is a RHP with flyball tendencies. It’s a pitchers’ park for him at the least.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It suppresses Home Runs, but not necessarily runs.
It’s a bit of an oddity, but hey! Triples Alley.
That's...odd.
Is that a case of Giants having a superior outfield defensively in some manner?
How do they calculate that?
I'm not sure.
Also not sure I believe it. I heard it before the season, too, but didn’t think much of it. I’d have to look into if a little more. Offseason work, I guess.
Or partially a case of the Giants having a very, very slow team for the last few years?
Maybe a combination of both a talented outfield defense, and a slow team? Who knows.
Hmm...
It’s a HR suppressing park that doesn’t suppress offense overall? That must mean there are more hits/2Bs/3Bs.
That must also mean that defense is emphasized in the park, and the typical UZR/150 and TZR ratings don’t accurately reflect the value of the defender while playing in AT&T.
Correct.
I’ve made this argument before, that defense, especially outfield defense, is at a premium here.
It’s why Andres Torres in particular has been even more valuable to the Giants than even fans of the team could ever guess.
Andres could go 0-season and he’d still be extremely valuable on the strength of his defense alone.
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By this argument, however...
Isn’t Nate far more valuable than people give him credit for? Imagine an outfield of
Carl Crawford – LF
Andres Torres – CF
Nate Schierholtz – RF
Imagine the frothing at the mouth that Matt Cain could induce then!
The park factor for triples would go down to 0. The only way to get an extra base hit would be a home run.
That strikes me as fucking absurdly powerful.
Especially considering the strength of our pitching staff is strikeouts. Limit the amount of balls in play, and limit those balls in play to only singles. Sounds like a recipe for absurdly low ERA, does it not?
park factor takes into account home and away teams
The Giants would still score triples.
Sure, on occasion.
In a season where Aubrey Huff can huff and puff his way to a glorious inside the park HR (with a teammate cracking up while goading him into an unnecessary slide into home), triples will be had, even if not many.
Schierholtz plays good defense in RF, but plays a less premium position and even then isn’t as good as Torres. Between positional adjustment and sheer awesome-tude, Torres is far more valuable, even without factoring power, plate discipline, and baserunning.
If there is a compelling argument for a better CF in the National League this year, I’d like to hear it. Without looking at the numbers, the only person I can think of who even challenges Torres is Andrew McCutcheon.
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Which is frankly pretty amazing, all things considered.
He was buried behind Aaron Rowand of all people until Rowand facesmashed a wall early in the year.
You mean until Vincente Padilla tried to make Rowand learn what it’s like to be ugly.
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Wasn't a wall, my bad.
Was a pitch from an ugly, ugly man.
It’s almost 4 in the morning.
I mainly base it off of statCorner's
I’ve never really looked into their methodology for it. For what it’s worth, baseball-reference has them as a pitcher’s park this year and neutral over the last 3.
It is flat out neutral from the left field foul pole to left center. Right field and right center turn home runs into doubles, triples, and outs.
But a big outfield leaves lots of room for liners and fly balls to fall. Weather factors vary with the weather, like all non-dome ballparks.
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never said they were worthless. im fine talking with you, so long as you don't put words in my mouth.
Colby Lewis and CJ are good. Guy from tonight is average, from what I’ve seen.
Timmeh (2 Cys), Cain (21-1/3IP scoreless), Bum (8IP, 0R), and Sanchy (inconsistent, but dominate when he’s on) are the more balanced, more talented pitching rotation. Not by much though- but sometimes that’s all it takes
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why stat-minded people will disagree with you
Some people won’t like you making unquantified statements (“balanced”, “more talented”) with questionable evidence based off awards and small sample sizes.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
You could say the Giants a better team. Look at our record since Posey become the starter; we’ve won over 60% of our games.
We’re really fucking good.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there is a lot of luck in that record. I am not complaining one bit, but I don’t predict that run to continue.
We may not be, but I still think we’re better than a 56% winning team. Yeah, the Rangers play in the AL, but much of the credit they get for that is mitigated by the fact they played in a division with no other team above .500.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rangers are likely a better team than the Giants over 162 games
But who gives a fuck, because the GIANTS ARE UP 3-1, CAN I GET A FUCK YEAH?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Fuck YEAH!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
DISAGREE
Using RS and RA after the AS break, the Giants should be 96 wins, and the Rangers at 87 wins. Huge difference.
totally agree
pythagorean-ly speaking, the Giants are the superior team by a good 8-9 wins.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That's half a season of performance
Which does not equate to the true talent levels of each team
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Half a season where we weren't fighting for a playoff spot,
gave Hamilton a month off and gave Lee a week or two off because he had back problems.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a reminder
that preview-wise, it was a comparison of the quality of each different part of each team, rather than taking into account results.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
x
http://dallas.sbnation.com/texas-rangers/2010/10/26/1770574/the-world-series-preview
From what I see, it’s mainly a comparison of results (sabermetrically-generated, of course) between the different starters (wOBA, FIP, etc.)
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Using sabermetric principles
That preview should’ve been done with true-talent level estimations for the simulation instead 2010 performance estimations.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I guess so.
But I think it does enough to suggest the Rangers had a statistical edge over the Giants, even if it is blurred a little.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Oh, I don't doubt the Rangers are more likely than not (in terms of true talent) better than the Giants
I just have beef with the process in that preview, that’s all.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
The big problem with that piece
Is that the difference between the two teams is almost entirely due to the AL/NL difference. It’s not at all clear that the Rangers should be given an extra 4.5% in each game just because they play in the AL.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 31, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
For one, I am a bit dubious that the quality of the AL West is the same as the AL as a whole.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But it has #6 org in it.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I have concerns about that study.
How did the #9 spot end up being a net wOBA advantage for the Rangers?
Did Moreland > Pablo outweigh NL pitchers > AL pitchers by that much, especially with 4 games in NL parks? CJ Wilson essentially has a wOBA near zero.
Using xFIP or FIP for Matt Cain is pretty disingenous considering that they both have major problems predicting his ERA.
And yes, I do agree with the comments above re: AL west vs. NL west not adhering to the standard AL vs. NL park adjustments.
CJ Wilson
was an outfielder in college. He can hit (for a pitcher, I mean).
He also used FIP, not xFIP, so Cain didn’t get unfairly penalized (plus, CJ would have been penalized more). It’s not disingenuous, it’s just the simplest way to do it. philkid does good work and he’s not a homer. If he used a bad methodology, it’s definitely not because he was trying to make the Rangers look better.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't imply that he was.
Cain has significantly outperformed his FIP every year for 5 years running. This is due to at the very least to his control over both BAbip and IF FB%. Both of which sabermetrics has conceded pitchers have a minimal amount of control over.
Thus, using FIP is also significantly penalizing Cain.
As for CJ, College was 9(?) years ago? How often does he actually take batting practice? He’s 0 for 5 in his whole major league career prior to the WS (0 for 7 now). I have a hard time believing his wOBA is close to Cain’s .147 career wOBA. He doesn’t fill us in on how he calculated the #9 spot, but it’s a significant gain for the Rangers, and I have a hard time buying that a weighted (Lee + 2*CJ + Lee + 3*Francoeur) outperforms (Timmy + 2*Cain + Sanchez +3*Pablo) by that much.
It would actually be (2*CJ + Lee + Colby + 3 * Moreland)
CJ loves hitting (by the way, he’s a really interesting guy. Stats guy, unique personality). He’s the hardest working guy on the staff and I have no doubt he would be an above-average hitting pitcher. That’s a little bit of homer-ism, though. Colby hit in Japan. Moreland shouldn’t be a 9-hole hitter.
FIP penalized Hunter worse than anybody else, anyway. It’s a blanket simulator he used for all the series so far, and it would have been impractical to make adjustments for a pitcher (he does those in a hurry. He’s just a college student who does this in his free time).
Considering Hunter doesn't exactly have....
bat-missing stuff? I’m not sure it’s really an unfair penalty that FIP imposes upon him, heh.
I’m sure he’s a nice guy and an effective regular season innings eater, but not missing bats spells trouble against even league average lineups.
I don’t blame you. Why did Washington go with Hunter? Is it the shiny ERA? Is there just no confidence in Holland?
Holland got a "tryout"
near the end of the season and struggled with consistency. Hunter is fairly low variance, so they went with that.
Reasonable enough, I guess.
Maybe if you had a defense similar to the Giants outfield tonight, it’d be a rational approach. Just didn’t really have many other options – if only Harden had stayed healthy and effective, eh?
That would have been helpful.
Feldman continuing to get stroked by the BABIP gods would’ve been good, too.
Michal Young provides some semblance of value at least.
Feldman? Well. 5th starter at best?
It's not just
what Young is right now (an awful-fielding third baseman, mitigated somewhat when he is hitting). It’s the length of the contract.
Feldman is a poor man’s Tommy Hunter right now. Or similar.
Well, I think we might come out slightly ahead.
As we actually have a use for Young at third, perhaps, with Renteria likely retiring, and Uribe hopefully being resigned to play SS.
My honest hope is Sandoval uses the offseason to pull his head out of his rather pleasantly oversized posterior and put some work in to milk what he can out of his talent, and be our 3B of the future.
I think you overestimate Young.
His defense is horrendous.
He and Sandoval are roughly equal (WAR-wise) over the past 3 years and Young is declining. Plus, the contract.
There's a picture we use to describe Young.
It’s a sloth lying on the ground with a glove and Young’s face.
Heh.
Is it an effort thing with Young? Or is he simply not really a 3B caliber player anymore? Should he be at 1B? Corner OF? DH?
He reminds me somewhat of Uribe, but maybe a more patient hitter, to be honest.
Maybe Uribe is a better defender, though.
Uribe had a higher walk rate this year.
And Uribe is a far superior fielder. Young is a better hitter, though.
I'm not sure the words
Uribe, higher, and walk rate belong together. I’m a little confused.
Nevermind.
7 of his walks came in 46 PAs in the 8 hole. 3 were intentional. I’m guessing Young has a little more patience than him. Pitcher batting 9th threw me off.
And about 13 of them came in one game against the Mets, where he didn't swing the bat once.
Strangest. Game. Ever.
Fair enough.
But you may be able to utterly discard last year’s Sandoval, based on what we’ve seen this year. We honestly don’t know yet.
He’s a total wildcard, and having him back performing at a high level next year is pretty much going to be a must for us to make it anywhere.
Not knowing much about Young’s defense, Game 1 of the ALCS definitely painted him in a particular light to my mind.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Haha.
How well does he field bunts?
With what I’ve heard, I’m surprised Renteria (who is a very talented bunter) hasn’t tried to push one down third base line for a hit.
They’ve been fairly aggressive with charging Renteria from the 3B side since Game 1.
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Anecdotally,
he charges hard (and late) then pushes it around with his fingers, finally gets a hold, then double clutches as he realizes the futility of life. Then he sees he won’t lose sleep over it.
Ah.
I’m a bit saddened, as I had the pleasure to watch some of the best I’ve ever seen at handling bunts in recent years in St Louis.
Rolen, of course, was a defensive genius. And while Freese had some issues with balls hit just a tiny bit to either side of him, he made some breathtaking plays when charging.
Too bad both Freese seems to be inflicted by the Curse of Scott Rolen. Hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt some more.
You're talking to Giants fans here
We have Zito with the cherry on top of Rowand.
Your A-Rod contract was our Zito.
We weren’t really ‘in this thing’. Not until our younger arms developed.
I love Barry Zito for reasons uknown to even myself, and he’s an absolutely amazing 5th starter during the regular season. You just…don’t pay people like that money of that nature to be a 5th starter at best.
A-ROD >>>>> ZITO
A-ROD actually gives performance value equal to his contract. Zito doesn’t come close.
How much of the $67mm got paid to the Yankees
That is the $67mm the Rangers sent to the Yankees for the remaining 5-6 years of his contract?
I wonder, because the last 3 years of his contract were cancelled when he re-signed with the Yanks.
I'm not sure.
I was fairly young when most of that was going down, so I’m not aware of all the financial implications.
Got it. I wonder if it’s better to have a low mean, low variance or higher mean, higher variance in a 7 game series.
I think it depends on your confidence in your team as a hole.
If you believe you have the advantage in the other 3 games, then the low variance guy is ideal. If you’re relying on stealing that game 4 to have a shot, then you need the high variance.
Aye. Seemed like the much more rational choice.
But you ‘had’ to go with someone, after all. Unless you were to demand your ‘big 3’ damn near kill themselves in the mind.
I wasn't done typing, dang it.
I wanted him the ALDS, just because I thought short rest Lee + CJ > Hunter + Full rest Lee (this was after Holland was apparently out).
After the ALDS, it didn’t make sense to pitch anyone on short rest.
Yah, I'm pointing out FIP w.r.t. Cain.
FIP or xFIP is probably the better predictor for all the other pitchers(maybe not CJ?). But for Cain, imho, it’s clearly inadequate, and therefore casts doubt upon the game 2 and 6 simulations.
I'm generally fine with FIP in regards to Cain.
Just xFIP needs to tweak the HR/FB rate to his career average to be a bit more accurate in simulators.
Doesn't Moreland play 1B?
Oh, wait, he didn’t do positional adjustment, he did batting order adjustment.
Wow. that’s even weirder.
How do you even begin to do that when you’re moving Moreland from 8th to 9th, and everyone else up and down based on the DH?
I’d really like to see his methodology for that before I’d be comfortable with it. Also, he never mentions PH’s or bench players, both of which matter in the NL. Defensive replacements, as well.
Anyone who takes that much time to do simulations and write them up has my respect. I’m just pointing out reasons to cast sufficient doubt on his conclusions that the Rangers are stronger “true talent” wise than the Giants.
I think the batting order adjustment
was to account for small differences in how batting order afffects production. I’m sort of guessing on that.
You can comment on it. He’ll probably respond.
But really, you can’t even do that without a lot of external factors that could sway things in favor of one team.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering the two team compositions changed drastically
from the first half of the season to the second half, I would argue that Pyth Exp% based on the second half stats are more valid than Pyth Exp% based on full season stats.
If you did 2nd or 3rd order Pyth Exp% I’d believe that those are better predictors of postseason performance than the first order PE% I did, but from a pure PE% P.O.V evaluating the two teams as wholes on their season performance, I think it’s fairly clear the Giants were better than the Rangers.
That's all I was saying
If you did 2nd or 3rd order Pyth Exp% [i.e. true-talent level estimation] I’d believe that those are better predictors of postseason performance than the first order PE% I did,
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AFAIK, no one has done it, and I'm too lazy to.
So, given that the first order PE% is what we have so far, the conclusion would be the end of the season Giants were 8-9 wins better than the end of the season Rangers.
You could also
Do true-talent level estimations for each player, construct lineups and depth charts, then run a bunch of simulations. I think this is what Xeifrank and MGL and jinaz and others do.
That said, it’s a helluvalotta work
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I dunno from xf, but his sim has called each game so far.
It has TEX winning G5, fwiw.
by wcw on Nov 1, 2010 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YEAH
and the Rangers are not the better team over 162 games. They won less games than we did.
I think we are all talking about anything other than the win tonight to keep our minds off the fact that we may very well lose our minds tomorrow night.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I did a study of this a week ago and concluded differently.
Since the Rangers and Giants have both turned over significant portions of their team since the AS-break, a half-season sample is a much better predictor of their postseason performance level:
It seems to me that based on first order Pythagorean Expectations, the Rangers were significantly worse than the Giants in the second half of 2010.
lol. we dumped him like some clingy ex-gf for the covergirl/model in posey
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
With Bengie not on either team, the teams are even.
With him on our team, the Rangers are better.
With him on their team, the Giants are better.
Science!!!
But . . .
. . . first-order projections aren’t much use for overall evaluation. One needs to do projection in three steps:
1. Project team stat lines from individual player and pitcher histories.
2. Project team runs scored and allowed from team stat lines.
3. Project games won from runs scored and runs allowed.
That usually works fairly well, as chance errors in one or another projection often somewhat cancel out (that is, good luck or bad luck at all three stages is less likely than a mix of good and bad).
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SSS is the entire goddamn point. This isn’t the BCS. Jesus.
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xFIP! Yes!!!!
BINGO!
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Our xPitching Staff isn't as good as our pitching staff
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I find them hilarious
xFIPers gonna xFIP
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Quick question:
What stat is a better indicator future performance?
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on how big of a sample of past performance you have
And how far in the future you want to project.
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I believe that fangraphs has asserted that xFIP is the best predictor of future performance
But I haven’t ever seen their numbers.
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I believe there are exceptions, so I don’t use it as a blanket stat for ALL pitchers, but I don’t think any staff will have enough outliers to invalidate the stat for analysis purposes.
Pitcher-by-pitcher, though, I look a little deeper.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The truth is
I don’t think xFIP is worthless or anything. I just get put off by blind adherence to any one statistic, as though it is flawless and cannot be questioned.
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Given the fledgling status of DIPS,
I’m all for questioning them. I just get defensive when people disregard them out of hand.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is also understandable.
I’m a mathematics major by trade, and maybe I do care a bit too much about statistics. However, I’m willing to admit that none of the current DIPS are perfect, and there are going to be outliers due to the nature of baseball. The key is to figure out how to handle the outliers, of which Matt Cain appears to be one.
Believe me, I don't
I just think they ought to be questioned and continued to be improved.
Hell, I remember when I first started paying attention to sabermetric stats (like 04-05?) and FIP/xFIP as we know it now hardly even existed (at least not in a visible way.) I love that baseball statistics are constantly evolving and getting better. THAT is why I dislike blind adherence to statistics like xFIP or WAR (or VORP, to go back a few years, remember when everyone loved THAT one?)
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I was never a big fan of VORP.
I actually contacted some people arguing about the mathematic inconsistencies involved in it, though I never did get a response. I do like the current metrics – mostly. There’s room for improvement, but not much. For what the individual stats do, they do well. Just depends what you’re looking for.
There was at least one validity study which concluded
that xFIP and FIP had about the same effective predictive power, iirc.
Furthermore, predictive power of ERA doesn’t mean statlines that don’t follow that prediction are all about “luck.” And that’s the argument that I hear touted by ppl claiming to be statheads.
Correlation reflects variance accounted for, and unless correlations are 100%, there will always be sources of variance not accounted for.
Those sources of variance may be accounted for via other stats(such as BAbip or IF FB% or HR/FB %) that aren’t used in the specific statistic.
I don’t know, I haven’t seen any numbers and it’s honestly not high on my list of priorities to find out.
It’s worth mentioning that about 99% of my dislike of xFIP is solely Matt Cain related.
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There's not a better indicator of future performance.
However, it’s worth acknowledging that the stat is not perfect, and there may be a couple outliers that are worth regressing to the mean at a less-than-full rate, such as Matt Cain. Using Career HR/FB ratio instead of League Average if a pitcher has more than 1k innings would be the way I would go about this.
I guess here's my issue with THIS PARTICULAR PART of sabermetrics
I view stats more as a record of what happened. It’s the historian in me. As an historian, I can appreciate looking at what has happened to try to predict the future.
However, I think that predicting the future is a tricky business. We, as a species, are pretty okay at it. But we also can get way too cocky about it. Baseball is no different. Let’s all try to predict the future. But let’s also acknowledge that there are things we won’t get right.
It looks like Matt Cain is one of those things.
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Historian?
Undergrad? Grad school? Prof? Public history?
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I'm a history teacher
But I was trained as an historian in college. I interned for the Nat. Park Service as an undergrad.
Someday soon (next year, maybe) I will be going back to school to get my masters in history. And perhaps even a PhD.
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That's pretty awesome
What’s your area of specialization? Or what do you think you might want it to be?
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US
I don’t think there’s an area of history that I don’t like. But US history is my favorite and my emphasis.
If you want even more specific, then we’ll say early American history (Columbus-Civil War).
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Cool cool
I’m more into late 19th through mid-20th century US history, mainly like the history of California, African American history, the history of race, and urban mulitcultural/multiethnic community formation
/LOL PhD applications
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The part where of my emphasis that breaks away from US history
Is colonial history. I know the history of the English colonies that eventually became the US really well, of course.
But I also have a good knowledge of the colonial history of the rest of the Americas, too. When I said Columbus-Civil War, I really should have said Pre-Columbus-Civil War. I’m pretty big on the formation of the nation.
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
That's pretty awesome
I’m kind of familiar with some Spanish colonial history, but otherwise I don’t have a whole lot of knowledge about the rest of the colonial Americas.
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You should like the VALUE statistics, then
These are WAR and its ilk. Value statistics seek to measure the value a player’s performance imparted. Predictive statistic seek to predict future performance.
i mean, seriously? is it too much to ask
yes it is
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is over there?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
it was me. and i dont think i was out of line, by any means, but they banned me. guy was saying “we just get into offensive funks” and I was like dude, everyone said that about the Braves, then the Phils, and now you guys… i think our pitching is what is causing these disappearing offenses or something like that.
i DID NOT gloat, troll, or break any cardinal rules. they are just bitter
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it could be considered gloating when you go right after a loss like this.
It’s better to just not mess with them. They have not seemed like a very open bunch.
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they were totally open and fine with me around the last few days (even after they won last night) then suddenly get all bitter after a loss and ban me.
it won’t be a problem, because i obviously can’t go back there now. fuck ’em. they cheer for a shithead like George Bush.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
fuck ’em. they cheer for a shithead like George Bush.
SO MUCH THIS
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point, but not good enough. Great spirit, though, g4life!!
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by gallo del cielo on Oct 31, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
A Reminder to Everyone: Trolling other sbnation sites can get you banned here
Think about your timing
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probably not the best timing, you are right
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
They were pretty pissed at you here
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
then that’s their problem. i didnt gloat, or say anything offensive
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
all of a sudden the Braves couldn’t hit.
then all of a sudden the Phils couldn’t hit.
and now you guys can’t hit. I’m sorry, but this isn’t a funk… this is how good our pitching is.
I’ll let myself out. Good luck
The I’ll let myself out part is pure douchery.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but kinda glorious, too, considering the hard reality he was layin down.
I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce (Bochy)
Not really.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
ehh
I consider that an “OH SNAP” thing. If they can’t handle being shut out by superior pitching, boo fucking hoo for them.
He didn’t come in and say nanny nanny boo boo. He said “you can’t hit because our pitchers are great, and it isn’t just you, it’s everyone we face”. That’s hardly gloating or ban-worthy.
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I feel like your stories from other SBNation sites always start with “YEAH THEY’RE SUPER COOL WITH ME OVER THERE WE ARE FRANDZ” and then you end up getting banned.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
well, i got banned from PR during the whole humidor thing because of victor frankenstein, then at lone star ball tonight.
you can go back and read my comments on each board if you feel like it.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t you get banned at GLB too? Maybe I’m remembering wrong.
And while the offer to slog through hundreds of your prolific posts is tempting, I’ll pass.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
you’ll pass? alright.
then don’t act like you know shit about any other SB blogs I’ve been on unless you’ve read it too.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Touchy post is touchy. I do read all the other blogs, and your posts included – I just meant that going through them all to find if you got banned or not is not a particularly savory proposition.
Perhaps I’m confusing you with calbearjd, both of you seem to post over on opposing blogs and in the lowercase fashion.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
I don't know shit about other sites you post on.
I just know that you’ve made far more than your inflammatory remarks on these own boards tonight, that have had people after your blood.
It’s hardly surprising to me that you aren’t well liked elsewhere, going there after their team loses.
I hope you realize you just said
Don’t mess with Texas. Subconsciously of course.
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I KNOW!!! FUCK YEAH!! WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!
im gonna go party and drink so much tonight, when i get off the computer in a bit
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t the same thing happen to you over there a couple days ago? I didn’t see any further responses by you so I assumed they banned you.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
wasnt me, i havent had anything but good rapport with them til now
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Referring to the post above with the link.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
i never checked back on anything i said, so i dont know what they responded with, but like i said above i havent been a jerk to them so if they want to ban me, thats their call.
i wasnt out of line
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I know.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought you were trying to pin the tail on me or something, so i was a little defensive because i know i wasnt out of line.
so their responses were pretty angry then?
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t trying to at all. You did get 2 or 3 "DIAF"s
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Die in a Fire.
It’s generally not a friendly term. Generally.
What if it is a “Kindly DIAF”?
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Then it's a failed
Bioshock reference, not an attempt at politeness.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well.
They still want you to die in a fire. Just, y’know. Try not to scream too much in the process and disturb the peace.
kindly DIAF is worse than DIAF, then… because they dont even want to be disturbed while i DIAF.
fuck em. i could care less. i didnt cross the line.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You aren’t showing much tact going over there after a loss. We aren’t the friendliest people here after a loss and I’m sure a lot of people would be irritated if some people from LSB came by even if they didn’t say anything that was “over the line”
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You probably should have know that would make them angry.
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 1, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
We really have no reason to be there.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
I mean normally one might pop over to ask a question like “why was so and so running there” but in the WS, just no point at all. Save a fanpost and put it up over Thanksgiving.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They are a bit touchy, indeed.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
we would be, too.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
we're touchy when 2-1 turns to 2-1
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For sure. But i don’t think we are to that extent.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
ive been on there for a few days chatting with them, then they banned me tonight after the game. oh well.
alright, im outta here. be safe tonight guys&girls
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Texans were strong, confident people. Hm… Guess I’m just another confused Left Coaster…
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
we would not be kind to someone who came here after a loss, no matter what they said. giving props after the other guys win = classy. saying anything, conciliatory or not, after the other guys lose = bad form.
Here's where the misunderstanding is
I’m not just talking about after a loss. They believe that other teams fans shouldn’t be over there, period. I’ve seen posts to that effect before the series started, too. Look at the quotes above. They imply more than simply “after a loss”.
That’s what I am curious about. Anyway, whatever, the Giants won. I am happy. i haven’t posted a thing over there. I will still be nervous until the Giants record the last out.
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Not true.
Several non-LSBers have joined us during our postseason run. A Yankees fan named Lord Duggan was in the gameday threads and posted throughout the ALCS without too much vitriol. It’s all about the style.
I see
I am mistaken then. Fair enough.
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I posted several times this AM
very carefully, and was received just fine.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Just keep rubbing it in, why don't ya?
;)
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And plus, LSB is a generally statistically-minded community.
So if someone does post something like “Matt Cain can magically control his HR/FB tendencies”, someone is going to call them out on that.
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but
it’s pretty clear he can.
he’s a witch!
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BURN HIM!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
He pitches in AT&T park.
That’s pretty controlling.
Further look: similar HR/FB% on the road. I’m at a loss.
I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge
“Hey, Matt Cain is able to do this and this and that”, and I wouldn’t ever argue about luck as his peripherals indicate in a place like here, but if a Giants fan went to LSB to say that, I would be agitated.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
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Why, because you’d rather spend time convincing yourself that Matt Cain actually sucks and you just got unlucky against him? I mean, you guys aren’t familiar with him, it’s easy to be like “Wow, his xFIP is much higher than his ERA!”, but I don’t see what would be rude about saying something like, “Hey, actually, you know he’s been doing that for 1000+ innings now and it seems like he might have some ability to limit HR at an above average rate.”
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That still contradicts sabermetric thought process though.
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"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Okay, my bad, that was a shitty, ambiguous statement.
But sabermetricians are usually unbendingly connected to the stats, rather than supposed “external forces”.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
But Matt Cain’s ability to limit HR doesn’t necessarily have to be something “external forces” or some clutch bullshit. It’s a statistic that has remained fairly steady over his whole career to this point, which is far from a SSS these days.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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Admittedly
I’m pretty certain Cain’s ability to do this is absolutely inconceivable to sabermetric analysis. However, I don’t think it’s going to stop a stat-cruncher from continuing to make that point.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
And that’s not going to stop me from continuing to laugh at people who cite Matt Cain’s xFIP as “proof” that he’s not a good pitcher.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND SAYS THAT.
They just say he is slightly less good than indicated.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Please, I’ve seen plenty of it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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So have I.
I assume they aren’t that intelligent or they are delusional, hence “IN THEIR RIGHT MIND.”
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
/Rob Neyer types feverishly
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I guess it's how much they disregard him for it.
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I think high level sabermetricians are more open.
Most of the high level papers I’ve read are similar to scientific papers, they are fairly open and recognize there’s a good degree of uncertainty.
It’s the mid-level SABR fanatics who push the party line a bit too hard and don’t understand the uncertainties in the high level research that just push the “bottom-line” messages a bit too vociferously.
no
when you have something that consistently ends up outside the model, you realize that there might be factors that you need to take into account.
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Even if it’s consistent over a fairly large sample?
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Bonferroni says hi
..which is to say, yes. If you believe there is 0 pitcher influence on HR/FB, you still expect a few outliers. The longer an outlier keeps from regressing, the more you believe it isn’t just luck, so for Cain I don’t (it helps to have watched him pitch for so long and consistently to have elicited weak contact this whole time, not just on FB but in general). But even for Cain, where I believe he’s showing an exceptional skill in legitimately pitching away from the center of the plate, especially high and tight to get those popups, I think he’s been somewhat lucky.
by wcw on Nov 1, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Why does it?
xFIP is not the end all and be all of stats, and all good sabermetricians know that.
It's a pretty good indicator
Well, there isn’t a clear better alternative, sabermetrically.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
If that were true, wouldn’t Fangraphs use it for its WAR calculations rather than regular FIP? I feel like xFIP is one of the more controversial statistics out there because it’s based so heavily on a pretty controversial assumption (even moreso than regular FIP).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WAR is Value, FIP/xFIP is predictive.
Different purposes of the stats.
xFIP is predicative. FIP shows how well the pitcher actually pitched.
Large distinction between the two of them in my mind.
FIP is somewhat predictive.
This is why Liriano has 4.6 WAR on B-R and 6.0 WAR on FG. Twins had an above-average defense, so Liriano’s contributions were diminished. However, he had a BABIP of .340, so he didn’t really benefit at all.
No, it's a matter of how you define
‘how well the pitcher actually pitched’, I believe.
I use FIP to measure that rather than ERA based things, as I don’t really care about how defense/park factor in.
Yes, there's a gray area there.
When you start trying to get better estimates for value by excluding external factors like park and defense, then you start going into a gray area between value and predictiveness.
There’s certainly a component of BAbip that’s defense and park, but there’s also a component that’s pure luck based. Should we exclude all three from value stats or only the first 2?
My idea is
That regress BABIP and HR/FB to league average until a pitcher reaches an arbitrary benchmark. 1k innings? 1250? And then regress them to career average at that point.
Perhaps scale them linearly to that marker as well, once you determine it.
It would work.
Although, I’m a Bayesian, myself. I’d prefer non-linear regression. .
xFip is the best indicator we currently have..
For predicting FUTURE performance, perhaps. FIP is a better statistic for looking at how well a pitcher has actually pitched, without taking defense into account.
What makes xFIP better than, say, tRA?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
tRA doesn't adjust HR/FB rates.
Personally, I want an xtRA just so I can pronounce it.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
There is tRAr
Which, iirc, regresses HR/FB back toward league average
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
When statCorner
does some work on their leaderboards, I’ll go there more often. The layout of the website is a turnoff for me.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know if I’ll ever really be comfortable with a straight, blanket regression of HR rates for everyone.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And that is perfectly reasonable.
For 95% of the pitchers, I’m comfortable with saying they’ll regress to league average over time, however. For the 5% of people who may be fly ball pitchers with unusually late movement? Maybe regressing to career average instead is the answer, once they have a large enough sample size to work with.
Does that seem fair?
Yeah, that would be an interesting thing to undertake.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Small steps, I suppose.
There still are a ton of factors unaccounted for. I love unpredictability in sports (not in this scenario, since the Giants have clearly outplayed the Rangers), but I’ll always be a logic guy, most of the time.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
You need to do some sort of regression.
Even if only to career average, in my mind. League average works fine for the majority, but perhaps if a pitcher has greater than 1000 innings in the majors, regressing it to the career average rather than league average is the answer. This would take care of outliers like Matt Fucking Cain.
Who is awesome. Just a bit of a puzzle.
StatCorner
does a lot of regressing to career averages (or league average for newer players), which seems like a good way of doing it.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Regression should always be done to both career and league
The question is what kind of regression and by how much.
In the case of HR/FB, xFIP’s regresses entirely to league avg. FIP and xFIP regress BAbip entirely to league avg. However, there’s significant evidence to show that pitchers do BAbip, if not both.
I'm still not sold that BABIP is controllable in any fashion whatsoever by the PITCHER.
Not over a sustained period of time, at least. Maybe in one select start, if they are locating out of this world, and in hitter’s heads….maybe somewhat. But even then, that’d be a case of racking up strikeouts, and limiting balls in play more than BABIP taking a hit.
The HITTER can control their BABIP somewhat, although not to a huge degree, this I’ll freely admit. But, the Pitcher? Unless you have conclusive evidence that they’re facing a more (or less) talented offense than average, I remain unconvinced.
Well, I think there's an important caveat to make:
I’m still not sold that BABIP is controllable in any fashion whatsoever by the PITCHER.
This has some survivor bias, right? Meaning anyone who has a BABIP significantly north of .300 for too long is going to get demoted/DFA’d. Because I’m pretty sure that batters would have a BABIP approaching 0.714 or whatever line drives fall in at if I were to pitch.
To a very small degree, perhaps.
But oddly enough, look at the leaderboard for BABIP. The highest 10-15 has a ton of very, very good pitchers on it.
Shields .354
Liriano .340
Gallardo .340
Haren .324
Lincecum .324
Whereas, if you look at the other end of the spectrum, there’s still some good pitchers, including two Giants and a Ranger.
Cain .260
Sanchez .262
CJ Wilson .272
.062 gap between Cain and Lincecum, even. I love both players, of course, but there’s not a talent gap of that degree between them. Not in favor of Cain, at least.
Random is random, BABIP is BABIP. If you want to argue for where DIPS lags behind, a good argument could be had for Strand Rate, however. If you believe that the concept of pacing oneself and ‘bearing down’ exists.
It’d undoubtedly fall into the SSS range, but I’d be curious to know what BABIP is for non-pitchers on the mound during a blowout. I wonder if it’s significantly north of the league average for pitchers.
Sure, a season's worth of data falls firmly in the SSS range.
Point simply is that over a career, things tend to even out towards the mean.
Regarding the ‘terrible pitchers on mound’ thing – probably to a degree, yes. But once a pitcher reaches a certain baseline, the pitcher doesn’t have a huge control over his line drive rate, I don’t believe – though his ground ball vs. fly ball, there’s more of a degree of control. Still subject to large samples of variance, however.
The real damage is the fact that they simply can’t miss bats, and frequently miss the strike zone. Occasionally the relatively well hit balls put in play go at fielders as all relatively well hit balls do, and they get quick, easy innings that make you shake your head in disbelief.
Or Felipe Lopez slips a 70 mph curveball past major league hitters in a marathon game.
Grasso Proved that pitchers do control BABIP
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/uncovering-dips/
As you can see, the coefficient for BABIP is highly significant, meaning that a pitcher’s control over the results of his balls in play extends beyond his fielding independent numbers.
I'll read it and look at the mathematics behind it when it isn't 4am.
But at a brief glance, I’m a bit skeptical.
IMHO, his methodology is very sound.
He’s able to detect signals because he uses sample sizes of over 6 million balls in play.
he's just curvefitting
and he’s doing very little good model exploration. I don’t think he’s wrong, but a critique would have to wait for a shorter thread and more spare time.
by wcw on Nov 1, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Beats me... I do know that..
his career BAbip is lower than league expected BAbip.
And I also think his BAbip w/RISP is even lower.
I'm not trying to discount Cain here, by the way.
I like him. He endeared (little too strong of a word) himself to me by pitching very well but somehow going like 14-30 over a two year span.
Yeah, he tends to get Cain'd.
If you poke around, there’s a meme of sorts involving his face, and something to the effect of ‘A whole run this time guys? Gee, thanks, I’ll take what I can get’ Around it.
I'd...agree somewhat that Cain's BABIP
should be slightly lower than average. Not as much as it is, mind you. Benefit of fly ball pitcher + exceptional outfield defense is one of the only flaws behind ‘BABIP is BABIP’.
His HR/FB ratio being consistently much lower than league average is sort of perplexing, but he’s sustained it over a large enough sample size for me to view it as an outlier of sorts, and one of the reasons I advocate regressing to career averages for ‘luck’ ratios once you hit a certain innings pitched benchmark.
I haven't read the research about HR/FB
So, I’m skeptical of it.
I haven’t found any good summaries of the research online anywhere showing that HR/FB rates aren’t predictive year-to-year.
I can see that xFIP is the better predictor than FIP, but that’s not the same thing by a long shot.
From what I've seen/determined, there are certain characteristics that make HR/FB rates
potentially suppressible. Excellent command of breaking pitches, especially curveballs, and late life on high fastballs being the predominant two things.
It’s logical even looking at it from a non-sabremetrics aspect. Keeping breaking pitches down is going to lead to awkward flyouts more than well driven ones, and late life on high fastballs will lead to pop ups more so.
But I haven’t read or done any definitive studies on the matter, just some brief arsenal comparisons between pitchers with sufficiently suppressed HR/FB ratios.
What? Since when is sabermetric thought process about deciding that a single statistic is flawless and without need of improvement? That they are unquestionable? The beautiful thing about sabermetrics is that it is constantly changing, constantly evolving. To blindly look at a statistic like xFIP and not consider that it might be flawed in some way is, IMO, completely AGAINST sabermetric thought process.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
CJ Wilson has done the same thing
and has generally been comparable. But some here disregard him.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
naw
that’s just cause he’s xCJWILSONx
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Is this a reference to xFIP or a reference sXe?
If it’s both, props to you.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s because he hasn’t done it consistently for five years and 1000 innings. That makes a pretty big difference.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
He's done it in the Ballpark in Arlington.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Over his career, it's at 9.1%
Over the last two years, it’s been more like 5.5%, but that could easily be a SSS fluke. Cain’s is much less likely to be a fluke because of the very large sample size.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I'm very aware of this.
CJ is an enigmatic pitcher overall, though. There have been many incarnations of him. He’s the Ian Kinsler of our pitching staff in that regard.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh?
I’m not sure what the typical splits are, but his 7.1 at home and 7.5 on the road seems at least somewhat significant. That’s, what, and extra home run per 230 fly balls or so?
Actually, that doesn’t seem all that significant. Guess he’s just magic.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Go read Tango's study
HR/FB % involves a decent amount of skill and luck.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
HR/FB%
Is largely dependent on the Hitter, less so on the Pitcher. Unless you have reason to believe the quality of the lineup a pitcher is facing is exceptionally deficient in power (or has an abnormal surplus of it), HR/FB% is going to be relatively static in terms of league average.
Of course, FB% itself has some degree of control from the pitcher over a larger sample size, but even that isn’t extreme.
Yeah, and if you come on here and say, “Matt Cain isn’t actually any good because of his xFIP”, we’re going to laugh your ass back to LSB.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Which is probably why we have problems with people visiting LSB
and forcing such an argument.
If anybody from LSB did that over here, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t be sent back.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Oh, great, I'm back in this discussion again
But none (very few?) of us would tell you to gtfo of here and back to your own site. Not over something like that.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I guess LSB and MCC operate on different wavelengths.
And P.S., I appreciate you guys being open-minded, just that you shouldn’t discriminate (not that I’m implying you guys do) LSB for the way we do things.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Can I ask you a question from your Rangers’ fan perspective?
From hearing it on the radio, and watching on TV, I thought the crowd in Arlington the past couple nights wasn’t great—not everyone standing on every two-strike pitch, not enough chants, etc.I mean, I know World Series crowds bring out the big-ticket corporate folks and the casual fans, and they were certainly loud at some key moments in Game 3, but I felt like they weren’t trying hard enough to rattle a 21-year old rookie opposing pitcher. Not saying it would have worked, but I thought the effort was lacking.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Dallas is a fair-weather sports town.
Personally, I thought the crowd did well (it was pretty fantastic for the Yankees series, IMO, especially the clincher) but maybe it wasn’t the level as outsiders might expect it to be. Which isn’t really all that damning, IMO, and I think a run like this will resonate onwards as long as they can continue into 2011.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Yeah, that sounds about right. Maybe the Yankees inspired a deeper level of animus because, after all, it’s the Yankees. The ALCS crowds definitely seemed rowdier (in a good way).
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
There may be a certain level of
‘well, we’re here!’ to it. Against the Yankees, there was a true level of dislike for the team, and it was perhaps more emotional. Especially when Cliff Lee goes into New York, puts the team on his back, and does what Cliff Lee does best.
Admittedly, I have an appreciation for the Mariners and A’s (very casually, mind you), but I certainly wouldn’t mind the Rangers stomping on The The Angels Angels of Anaheim for a few years.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Well.
We’d actually probably have a rather in-depth discussion about how he’s still a effective pitcher, who may have had a slight bit of sustained luck that may or may not be controllable. While he may not have pitched precisely to his peripherals, calling him ‘not any good’ is a bit of a stretch.
We would then ask them to choose their words more carefully next time, and Kindly Die In A Fire.
*Note – the last five words are a semi-joking reference to up thread. Or down thread. I’m nicely confused.
DIPS does allow for pitchers like Cain to exist
If you look at most of the recent DIPS literature (Grasso, and others), they do say that there is a degree of control non-knuckleballers have over BABIP, mostly due to controlling IF FB%. I’m not sure about HR/FB%, and I know they’ve concluded LD% is pretty random.
Cain’s BABIP is obviously consistently low and he has control over that. His IF FB% is probably high, and he has control over that, too. HR/OFFB? Dunno. LD% Probably not. Although Cain’s LD% is low 4 out of 5 seasons, IIRC.
I haven’t seen any good DIPS literature on HR/FB rates, and at least one validation study didn’t show xFIP with any particular advantage over FIP, iirc.
His IFFB% is high. That explains some of the difference. The park helps. That’s some. And there is some indication that he might have some skill — the solitary HR given up in high-leverage situations might be pure luck, but it might not. But on top of all that, it looks like there also is some good luck.
How do you know there's luck?
We know that pitchers can suppress BABIP for RISP situations.
We know that pitchers do control BABIP to some degree, although there’s a lot of variance.
We know that pitchers control IF/FB% to a certain degree.
I have not read Shandler’s study regressing HR/FB% to 10%. I haven’t seen a good online summary of the research either.
I do know that most people believe it because xFIP has better predictive value than FIP. That fact doesn’t mean pitchers can’t control HR/FB%. It just means that the variance inherent in HR/FB% swamps the predictive value of using a mean park adjusted HR/FB%.
I don’t see how we can conclude that he’s lucky without further analysis.
i gave them props last night for a game well played IIRC, but never checked back on it
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
We were slightly lucky, yes
…but putting a defense on the field like we did, and having smart pitchers on the mound who know to stop throwing where they aren’t getting calls … these are things that are going to sometimes look like luck.
by Monkeyking42 on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I had pleasant conversations this morning
but I’m not dumb enough to go over there the night they lose, much less are shut out.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It really isn’t not good form.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
yes!!!!!!!!!
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
I love Huff
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
awesome
and he did.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously everyone
we just won a world series game, shut up about Rob Neyer.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
by oldjacket on Oct 31, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
it's petty
and a lot of it is bizarre
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
by oldjacket on Oct 31, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d for bizarre
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps you are right--it is petty, but it's not as if he's some random blogger.
After ever game, his ridiculous blog is linked on the ESPN front page. And look what he is saying now—that any idiot would have started MadBum over Sanchez. I’m convinced that Neyer doesn’t watch games because he thinks the actual events would be misleading.
what about my saying shut up about Rob Neyer
implies that I am interested in expanding a conversation about Rob Neyer?
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Just giving my opinion, take it or leave it. Just would like to point out that the Rob Neyer discussion is upthread. I’m done with it.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Yup
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Save the bitterness for the heartbreak that is our destiny, this year or the next. Tonight, we rejoice that we are alive, on this day, in this season, watching this unbelievable team do what they do.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
We’re one win away from the promised land and people are worried about Rob Neyer?
Eff respect, I’d rather have hardware. You’ll be waiting a long time if you are waiting for the East Coast bias to disappear.
rec'd and ftfy
we just won a THIRD world series game, shut up about Rob Neyer.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s puzzling, I’ll admit.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a recruitment tomorrow night during the game time.
I have a feeling I will be the only one that shows up.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Does that mean you’ll at least be able to wrap up early?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
ROFL… MLB net shows the kid who caught Posey’s HR… He gave the ball back to posey for another autographed ball…
They were saying. “well I’m a ranger fan… BUT Buster Posey and Tim Lincecum!!!”
You know you rock when opposing fans BJ you..,
by skilletboy on Oct 31, 2010 9:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
and that dude just became a Posey fan for life.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey was on his fantasy team, so he was already a fan.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
But not necessarily for life.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Not bad for some "NL clown-ball" huh?
I remember seeing a post from one of the LSB bloggers, Adam J Morris (not a commenter, one of the bloggers). I don’t particularly like gloating, and I like the Rangers as I find them inoffensive, and I like gOET’s posts.
But how do they like that clown-ball?
well
I’m sure this won’t attract any trolling.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Just wow
I don’t care of Jason Heyward goes on to hit 1,000 HR and bat .400 for his career, the Giants made the best pick of the 2007 draft.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 9:25 PM PDT reply actions
Fuck yes!
On the other hand, Will AngelSaveUs?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, 1 pick that really helped us
The Orioles taking Matt Wieters. Thanks for that.
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Imagine that Rays lineup with Buster
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That was good too
although that was the 08 draft
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
go a little further up
and check out the 2007 draft thread. Legendary.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Oh I remember
I was posting as One Flap Down back then until I realized there was another poster using that handle. The outrage was legendary.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL YOUR CURRENT NAME
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Small, yet possibly significant note.
Due to MadBum’s epic performance, the Giants’ bullpen is nice a rested.
Texas’? Not so much.
I'm glad they got Wilson in there
and extra glad he was sharp.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
World Series with me participating in GDT
Was here first few innings of Game 1. Ugh. Left, and the Giants went nuts
Was at Game 2 live. That was pretty.
Game 3, I was here the whole fruckin time.
Today, I gave it a pass.
See you folks in tomorrow post game.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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this team is the happy
and having lurked here for a while, seeing the regulars and newcomers enjoy the run is outstanding. still got work to do, so GO GIANTS!
I think Timmy will dominate tomorrow
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions
FUCK YEAH!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The world is ending
Salty from Clovis is excited and positive about the Giants.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
he sounded so happy. nice transformation
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Salty!
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Salty Balty
The only KNBR caller to be banned from multiple shows.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I like Salty Balty
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh oh....this worries me tremendously
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that a couple nights ago
but for some reason my brain translates “Let’s go to Salty from Clovis on line 2” as “TURN RADIO OFF IMMEDIATELY!!!”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hire Rob Schneider.
Dude knows his Giants baseball.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
Cool CSNBA playing QOTS
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
My friend just texted me asking if the Giants will sign Posey to extension in 2017
I don’t even know if I’ll be alive in 2017
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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world ends, 2012
unless something between now and then accelerates it
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Ive never been to a World Series before,
and I have tickets to game 6.
Do I root for a loss or a win?
There you have it. If you were around for 2002 it’s an easy choice.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants win
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
You root for a win with all of your might. I have tickets to game 6 and game 7 and I do not give a fuck.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
Win, then frame the ticket.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
When I go to the World Series the earth quakes
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I stand to gain thousands of dollars if there are game six and seven
I do not want thousands of dollars. I want a fucking world series winner.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
thank you for being a voice of reason
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Similar to the, one in the hand is better than two in the bush. Take the sure thing. Don’t take the risk just because you get greedy
you got the saying wrong.....
one with the beard is better than two g. bushes
by ACgiant97 on Oct 31, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I have tickets for Game 6. I absolutely don’t want to use them. Anyone rooting for a loss tomorrow because they want to see a “last” game in SF deserves to be banned.
LOL rich fatcat Giants fan whine and cheese blogger
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to unrec this just so I can rec it again.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
To even ask that question makes me wonder about your fan intellect.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I might never get a chance again to go to a World Series again
I wasn’t sure if rooting for them to come back to San Fran was too greedy, but I guess it is.
alright alright
Il root for a win. I hope my dad gets his tickets refunded, the source didn’t sound too legit.
I have tickets to games 6 and 7
I DO NOT want to use them.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I literally have $20 down on Giants in 6.
But, fuck that noise. I’ll concede $20 to see the Giants seal it tomorrow night.
oh come on now
banned.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Line
That was a 21-year-old rookie made of one part grizzled veteran, one part emotionless sociopath, and five parts amazing
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
Who said this?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Think I heard some dude say it on Sportsphone 680 with FP.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah
I’ve been too busy Z’ing through this thread to read this
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
No one reads the drivel at the top do they?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
he's a trained killer, for sure.
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OT
Can anyone complete this without cheating? http://espn.go.com/free-online-games/trivia/hrseasons50
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I did it a few days ago
I missed Greg Vaughn. Gladly
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I did that a while back and got 30-something.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Smokes
I can’t stop watching replays of Posey gunning down Hamilton. What a fucking amazing throw.
Ain't havin' it
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
IDK
i think its more that the throw was in the one place it needed to be to get an out. That is a great fucking throw.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Let’s go with “They were both awesome.”
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
that cuts away right before the actual tag
:(
it’s like soft core porn
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just trying to save on the bandwidth
..but they always say, leave the audience wanting more.
You're such a tease
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I see what you did there
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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BITCH
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Oct 31, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll tell you one thing
If Posey ever decided to pitch he has a solid cutter.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
Add ‘aint havin it" at the end and it’s perfection.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
remember that?
they almost got a runner to second base. It was cute.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes! In the thread I mentioned that it reminded me of that drawing.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
fucking amazing
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
keithlaw keithlaw
My wife just saw Brian Wilson’s beard for the first time. Her: “Halloween?” Me: “No.” Her: “Seriously?”
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by Natto on Oct 31, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
winner
for thickest beard on a Certified Ninja
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not allowed to wear actual ninja hood on mound;
growing one.
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Halloween candy
Gave out Hershey’s singles tonight, but kept the Kit Kats and the Reese’s cups because they are awesome.
I think I’m gonna eat a crapload of them right now.
Don’t go and lose three in a row, you cockknockers.
Anagram of "SF Giants National League Champs" = A HOT, GAINFUL, MAGIC PLEASANTNESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions
I have not had a single trick or treater.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I only had one group of about 8 kids, that was almost 3 hours ago, guess I can close up shop now
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
awww, sorry :(
for all my years (almost 30) I spent at home in Los Altos, we never got one trick-or-treater, NOT ONE! it was sad watching my mom get the bowl of candy ready every year with expectations that “this was the year”
the only time we got trick-or-treaters was when friends of the family drove their kids over to the house :(
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I don’t mind, I’m not “allowed” to open the door here at night anyways LoL. Lately this neighborhood has gone right down ye olde porcelain parkway.
i heard that, I’m in Anacrime, and even though it’s a “gated” community, my mom said, well, just make sure you check to see if they’re actually trick-or-treaters and not thugs LOL
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
but, but, SO DO I!!!!! :( srsly, the weather here sucks on toast, I miss proper nor cal seasons
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
i read sucks on toast as “sucks on toes” LOL
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
there was a baseball game on tonight? I kept hearing about the Cowboys?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
oh no! but why? did you lose your remote? interwebs crash?
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
seriously though, the game was awesome! I love this team.. even the schleps like Nate
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They seriously need to stop talking about football during the game. WE’RE WATCHING THE WORLD SERIES! If we wanted to know what was going on in the damn game…WE WOULD BE WATCHING IT >.> /rage over
lol u!
was this FOX? I set a new /mute button record tonight, the commercial before the telecast began! I WIN!:D
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
yeah they were talking about the Cowboys and football in general pretty much every free chance they got
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
wow, that is pathetic, cuz after last week with Romo’s broken collarbone and the subsequent implosion with the back up, I wouldn’t think there’s much to talk about…
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
and they lost 35-17 today! YAY!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s “America’s Team” what do you expect? They’re like the Bankees or Fodgers. The Fakers or Celtics. You know…the only teams that really matter
oh, ouch! so much for the super bowl!
Mdizzle, you’re so right, one of my “sports gurls” friends is a HUGE Lakers fan and now that the Giants are in the post season, she’s like “yay, both our teams are winning” and I kinda want to shake her for not understanding HOW FREAKIN HARD it was to get to this place!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Is she a Laker fan…or a Faker fan? Laker fan….eh they’re…eh. Faker fans on the other hand I want to strangle
I think it goes back a ways, she grew up here and some how knew Pau Gasol from college or something
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
yes, but he moved to Memphis or something when he got signed and she was going to college out there for her masters, IDK, it’s really complicated and cuz I don’t care about the Lakers, it’s hard to remember
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Ok that makes sense then. Since he’s not a college athlete he would ACTUALLY go to class. So yeah that makes sense
I didn’t say he went to class, I said my friend did, he was there as some kind of NBA draft thing I’m sure.
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
don’t, she’s told me this story like a dozen times and I still don’t really get it :D
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
so right! never could get into basketball, being here around all this Laker Luv makes me wanna puke-I wanted them to lose so bad just so the riots wouldn’t interrupt my local news-idiots burning up and trashing their own city b/c they won!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I had to play too, darn my small private catholic school! it sucked, tied for least favorite sport with soccer-volleyball and softball FTW!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
icky catholic school K-12!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
bahahaha oh boy…Private Catholic Schools… I hated wearing the corduroy pants and Frat-looking sweaters over a polo…felt so weird
but u didn’t have to wear ugly scratchy plaid jumpers and thin white button down blouses, what saint was yours named after?
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
K-8: St Francis
9-12: St John the Bapist De La Salle
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
ha ha, St. Francis was name of my HS! De La Salle, as in the football giant HS???
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
yes De La Salle, the football giant.. my team was the one that lost “The Streak” though!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
NO WAY! omg what was the final streak upto? u know, that even made news here!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
we lost at 151, my senior year in high school..
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
that’s insane! but you shouldn’t focus on the busted streak, you played dozens of those undefeated games! that’s epic!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Booo!
Bellarmine here :D
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 1, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
what happened to you, I thought u jumped ship! man, what’s with you guys both being from amazing football (sports, really) schools? weird!
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I was studying for my stats midterm that’s on wednesday..YAY FML XD
hmm? great? last time SI won the WCAL and CCS Championships for football was back in 2007. Ever since then the teams have kinda sucked. Our lacrosse and crew programs though are basically #1 on the West Coast though. Aside from that, SI sports kinda suck now.
well, when I was at St. Francis (in the stone ages), we constantly heard (and were in awe of) both De la Salle and SI. Plus my mom went to Mercy in SF so she always thought SI was amazing :D
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
yeah high school was a ton of fun
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
lolz ok i GUESS we were ok. St Francis was pretty good in their own right. But I’m just really hard on them because I actually knew all the athletes XD De la Salle was actually one of the few schools that gave our lax team a run for their money. Anyway…yay high school is over…now…college..FML
well, u survived, that’s what’s important! good luck on your midterm wednesday, here’s hoping there’s no baseball to distract u! ;) /knocks on all wood surfaces in apt, including own head!
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that counts, I’m sure there’s some wood shavings hiding inside IKEA furniture
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
wood= termites, termites=icky
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
poor nate :( he was sorta ok in the outfield, but gah was he atrocious at the plate! shows you how wrong you can be when u root simply because they have a pretty face /facepalm
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
as a fellow “pretty” face, there is a lot more to us than good OF skills!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
wowwwwww cmon man!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
well, IDK about other gurls, but I personally think guys who wear glasses (vs. contacts-that’s cheating) are cute-fast forward to about 2:38! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8wAujPR0R8
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/wears both
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
glasses add character and mystery and for me, vulnerability I find irresistable, knees nearly buckled when my boy-on-the-side switched to glasses /swoon
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boy on the side? That didn’t come out great.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
well, he’s been stringing me along for 3 years now, only hear from him every couple of weeks, so what would you call it? side-piece? he has not exactly reached BF status, not holding breath
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
sounds like you deserve better missy!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
lol u guys are sweet :) thanks for the ego boost, but I image I would be robbing cradles around these parts
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
yeah well….girls my age don’t really understand baseball….it sucks even more when my female friends actually come to my games and they tell me they’re watching because of my cute teammate…I tend to give a Piccard-like facepalm during those times
oh god, I’m sorry. hang in there, one day some cute girl who actually KNOWS about baseball will be into the game and not just the players looks-it will happen!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
baseball player, or friends who are of the female persuasion who just watch games for cute butts and the like? oh, and welcome, it’s a roomy boat!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Mainly the friends part.
Haven’t played baseball in two years.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn’t know what to say to this
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
to what, the column got all skinny again and I can’t tell what’s being replied to what! lol
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
the robbing cradles part lol
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, but remember I’m not in my 20s like everyone else is around here, it’s tragic, but it’s my reality that there is a 3 with a 6 after it in my age :( IDK when it happened, but suddenly I’m considered old here in the OC
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
You’re not old, plus age is just a number. It doesn’t matter. And all that matters is what you’ve done with your time. You’re still young, trust me.
this thread is outta control guys
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 31, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
don’tcha just love her there! we stayed at that hotel when I was a kid during it’s 100th anniversary and it was on a loop on hotel room tv. Top 10 easily!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Her giddiness was the one thing that would probably have kept me from saying “I’LL SHOW YOU GENTLE AND HELPLESS!” if I were in his shoes
oh, he gets to it later in the movie, on the yacht :)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
it’s a movie from 1959, not 2009, just some heavy petting, comedic heavy petting
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Budding Romance.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
more like n00bs stick together, they don’t make fun of me when I don’t know something ;)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
It's all love on MCC
I’ve never been cursed at for saying something I should have been cursed at for lol
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
like I’ve always said, I came to McC for the torture, I stayed for the lulz! :)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
this always makes me LOL actually
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
wow, I’m two for two today-I had a pretty good one for Rent right before he did amazing things tonight, I was kinda proud of myself :) they don’t happen often, so I have to really enjoy when it does!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
/whispers to FTK
I think her success is getting to her head.
aite time for me to call it a night. I know i know…weak. But whatever. I have lecture tomorrow and I need to get up in a few hours… /shoots self in face
g’night, sleep tight, don’t let the bed bugs bite! XD remember, after class naps are your friend! :)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I take one of those cat naps a day.. amazing
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
I left a bowl out
still got a knock.
I said, take some candy, I’m watching the World Series.
The Dad yelled from the street, “Is it still 3-0?”
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
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by DrStankus on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice lol!
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Had about 40 trick or treaters
bought 70 kitkats and 75 pixie sticks
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
we didnt' get a single trick or treater
i’m on snack duty for class tomorrow, so they’re getting a gigantic bag of halloween candy.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm not sure if any came to my door or not.
I ate all the butterfingers, and put a sign up saying ’I ate all the candy, sorry. It was delicious."
Wait, your classes have snacks?
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
They are from 3 PM to 6 PM four nights a week after all of us have spent 2-5 hours at school all day. You’re damned right they have snacks.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I wish my classes had snacks, but it sounds like you’re more deserving.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
lulz
I thought you were student teaching and planning to load up your charges with sucrose.
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
do you think I’m insane??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I am kind of dreading tomorrow
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edumacation!
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
We probably had at least 270 kids, maybe up to 300. It was a busy night. Full-sized candy bars FTW!
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by can of corn on Oct 31, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I gave out too much at the start of the night
Ran out, so had to shutter the windows and lights :(
Pacifica was dead – the house I was at got three visits – but apparently Bernal Heights was busy. My wife ran out of candy and had to turn off the porch light and cower.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Asked Brian Wilson if The Machine is planning on flying to Arlington for a potential clincher. His response: “He travels only by night.”
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The hits keep coming.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Same
He seems like he brings the party with him wherever he goes. I want in on that.
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by Prussian Creole on Nov 1, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
congrats Giant, I am off to read some more.
Jponry, MORE AVATAR.
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Leaves from the vine…falling so slow…
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
which Giant are you congratulating?
"Notre Dame will win the BCS national championship. Count it." -PiKAgiant
by HoosierGiant on Oct 31, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i have stuff to do tonight
plus i had to drive back down to school after the game.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Didn’t know these things about Huff…
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sh-huffworldseriesgamefour103110
This is beyond torture. This is beyond baseball.
In the stands cheering for her son was Fonda, who long ago moved on from the Winn-Dixie. She earned her teaching credential and master’s degree, and after a long teaching career in Texas and Florida now mentors math teachers.
That’s pretty fucking cool too.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
la fonda?
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LaFowanda.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
hell yeah.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That really fills my heart
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Insight from Ron Washington
“I thought the pitching was the thing tonight,” Texas manager Ron Washington said. “And their defense.”
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by DrStankus on Oct 31, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
to be fair
Neyer hates Washington
by PocketfullofPoseys on Oct 31, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah.
He talks down on Washington, but it gives him plenty to bloviate about.
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Little Ron Washington ruled!
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit you guys
we are one goddamn win away from winning the world. series. one. win.
Oh my god.
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I AM FREAKING THE FUCK OUT
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ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Unlike Mitch Moreland's homer last night,
Huff’s tonight would have gone out at AT&T.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OH YEAH
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Huff’s would have gone out in fucking Atlantis.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey's wouldn't though
But yeah, I’m not sure if Huff’s has landed yet
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I think it would have. The CF walls are comparable in the two parks, and I honestly think that ball was more spin aided than win aided, since I’ve seen Buster put one in the RCF bleachers at AT&T.
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Serious question
More impressive start: MadBum’s tonight or Lincecum’s 14K CG?
Buster Posey>
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Lincecum
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tie goes to the both
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Timmy
MadBum was aces tonight against a better lineup, but Tim was just unbelievably fucking dominant. Even with all those injuries, the Braves were still major league hitters and he just made them look like a high school team.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but the guy is 21 years old.
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I'm going to say MadBum
He was facing the Rangers with Hamilton, Vlad, Cruz and Kinsler in their home ballpark in the World Series. He’s a rookie. He’s 21 years old.
Lincecum’s start was overpowering, but it was at home against a Braves team that was pretty impotent offensively (and missing Martin Prado and Chipper Jones).
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
this.
also, tim’s start was at home. They were both amazing. It’s nearly impossible to pick a “winner” in this. But I think bum’s was sliiiiightly more impressive
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I was at Tim's start
WINNER
Ryan Verdugo, my adopted son, strikes out 13.2 per 9 innings in his career. He has a 1.63 ERA in San Jose this year. Call him up to be a Flying Squirrel. He is also a member of the "Giants who went to LSU" club with Mike Fontenot, a.k.a Grant.
Oh also
Vlad struck out three times for the first time since 1998 tonight.
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by Kitspool on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plus his swings got broken down
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
He looked horrible twice tonight
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"I told the family lovingly slide"
He often swings at bad pitches, but it isn’t often that he looks really bad like that on pitches in the zone.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
So, so bad.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
First time
against a left handed starting pitcher, in one game.
He’s struck out 3 times several times before.
You're right
Sorry for making it sound even more historic than it was.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Yeah, in Montreal against Al Leiter.
Wrap your head around that shit.
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MadBum’s was in a World Series on the road, he wins
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by HoosierGiant on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
well one has two Cy Youngs the other one has a cow.
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MadBum
World Series…21 year old…not even in the big leagues for a whole season…pitching more innings than he has ever pitched…Texas’s line-up of hitters is much better than Atlanta
that’s like asking someone to choose a favorite child!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
i'll go madbum
Tougher team, tougher yard.
But it’s pretty much 1a and 1b. I’ll also throw both of Cain’s in there and Johnny’s against ATL.
by kezargiants on Oct 31, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Strange question.
They are related, in both being major-league ball games pitched in, but beyond that, each is simply its own thing. As well ask whether an Ansel Adams is more impressive than a Renoir. Enjoy each for what it is, a masterwork of its sort.
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First World Series Win
Tonight was the first time I attended a Giants World Series victory. Mad Bum was awesome!
Third Deck Behind Homeplate
325 or around there. I was in 38 and probably the lone Giants fan. (My friend is a Rangers season ticket holder and was truly beyond nice enough to sell me the ticket at face value.)
A Memory You'll Treasure for a Lifetime
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
400 dollars and 2000 miles of driving
that’s what separates me from being at game 5 tomorrow night. I’m seriously considering this
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Pick me up in Reno!
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
kind of out of the way
but I’d love to! Split the gas money
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GO
How many chances like this will you have?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
This is what I keep saying
BUT. It is cliff lee. 400 dollars and all that effort to see a loss would be crushing.
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you can't worry about the if's
no risk, no reward.
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THAT'S EASY TO SAY FROM AFAR
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hey
I spent (well my wife did) $900 bucks so that I could, in all likelihood, watch these fuckers torture me again.
unless you gotta go see about a girl, like Robin Williams, you should go.
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I really should
don’t even have to work tomorrow or tuesday…DAMMIT.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
here's the problem
in order to get a flight that would get there on time, i’d have to leave for the cities, like, right now. And there’s no way I’d make it there without crashing off the road.
ARGH. I should have thought of this earlier dammit. I didn’t realize tickets to the game were so “cheap”.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I live 4 hours away from the cities
a cab would be really insanely expensive
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah :(
if I’d planned it out sooner I would probably go no doubt.
Alas, it’s not to be :/. Fun to dream though.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Timmy will not permit that
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
nah dude. you have to have the expectation cliff lee will pitch well. don’t go if you’ll be disappointed by a loss. go because its the fucking giants in the world series and they have a chance to win it all tomorrow!
No one here gets out alive.
AHHHHHHHHHHH
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DO IT!!!!
YOU REGRET THE SHIT YOU LEFT UNDONE WAY MORE THAN THE STUPID SHIT YOU ACTUALLY DO.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
arrghhh
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I’m old-ish. There are some things that I look back on now and think “Dammit, I could have done that, but I went all rational and didn’t.”
If at all possible, live your life so that when you are 65 you can look back on great memories, and no regrets.
absolutely
I let my sense get the better of me and didn’t fly to SD for Latos-Lincecum. Partly cause I am a cheap bastard, partly cause I didn’t know how I could handle it if they lost. BTW, Timmy was fair-dinkum that game.
Then my boss said that I couldn’t take a half day to watch a day game on tv. So I said fuck it, I’ll just go to the NLCS. Matt Cain happened.
Then, I was still in cheap bastard mode when my wife bought me a ticket to Game Two of the WORLD FUCKING SERIES. Oh, Matt Cain happened again.
Game Five. Tim Lincecum. Yeah, it might not work out.
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GO GO GO
Or sell me the Tix
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I don't have them
140 bucks on stubhub. I’m not shitting you.
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And there are a lot available
standing room only, but fuck. Why not?
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Dammm
That’s cheap
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
IKR
cheapest game 6 ticket is 600
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airtran has roundtrip for about 400
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378 to be exact
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minnesota
that would be minneapolis to dfw
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just wondering about car pooling from west of chicago -
but flying would be better
and no kruk and kuip at texas
mlb at bat ftw
you’d get the call like a minute after it happened in the game
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18 hours
yeah, driving probably isn’t happening actually
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also true
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Take the plane, man.
That’s a shitload of driving from Fargo in the timeframe you have, and you’re not spending that much more to fly.
yeah that way if the giants lose. other people lives won’t be in danger on america’s freeways.
No one here gets out alive.
I'M A GOOD DRIVER DAMMIT
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NOT WHILE TEXTING
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad's birthday is tomorrow
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HEY GAIZ
Let’s talk about Pat Burrell
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I think he would have missed 2 or 3 of the balls that ross got to tonight
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He needs to suck it up and DH
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I think huff did OK there
I was fine with the lineup. Just enough offense, great defense.
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I can respect him saying that he doesn’t feel comfortable DHing, especially after his obviously failed stint in Tampa.
But then, if he DHes tomorrow he can’t do any worse than Ishi or Pablo.
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I don't want him to DH
He can’t H
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I’m not sure Huff keeps that one throw on the double play attempt from going into the stands.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear he likes, you know.
Ladies.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I want him back in the lineup tomorrow
As DH would be fine. Give Rowand a start vs a lefty.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Dino Velvet? LOL "Are you trying to be funny right now?"
This is beyond torture. This is beyond baseball.
What did he say?
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have knocked him out for asking that, even though I have no idea what it means.
This is beyond torture. This is beyond baseball.
Wilson's disdain = non-physical knockout
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I'm in happy zone right now
I have SNSD’s HOOT on loop in the background. Wife is shaking her head.
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That’s pretty good with thye sound off.
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
THE
Fucking Makers Mark!
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 31, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
We’re just not that good of a team though. We’re just getting breaks at all the right times.
by kingofthacove on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and Bengie
Pitchers like him moar
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SSS
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers are 52-30 when Treanor starts at catcher.
This means Treanor is better, right?
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
LolBengie.
Let’s just go with that.
Respect him for the work he did with the pitching staff the last few years, but happy he’s not our cleanup hitter anymore, to say the least.
He's actually contributed during the playoffs.
Plus, the alternative was rolling with Teagarden as our backup catcher.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, certainly.
He’s a respectable backup and part time starter. His ego may or may not have allowed him to do that in a reasonable fashion for the Giants, but I’m happy he worked out for the Rangers. Doesn’t mean I want to see him celebrate on our field, of course, but I wish him well, personally.
I’m just happy he’s not a Giant any longer, since that means we have this young fellow behind the plate who seems to be performing respectably.
Why did you guys deal Saltalamacchia, anyway? I don’t know much about that, other than the fact that he was having… back problems?
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I remember him being hurt, and then having some...mental issues?
Or something of that ilk. Couldn’t throw the ball back to the Pitcher accurately, but could hit the second baseman no problem on steal attempts. Was that ever resolved? I read an article or two on it, then forgot about it.
He can't throw the ball back to the pitcher.
That’s not why, but it’s interesting.
He also hasn’t hit well. He had an attitude problem with us, too. It was a very poor relationship.
As I said, I admit I don’t know much about him, though I rememmber he was the opening day hero, and I thought (speaking from ignorance again here) that he was at least a middling catching prospect.
Now that you mention it, I remember the throwing the ball back thing now. And the club relationship thing is problematic. All fair.
But hey, he could always have a future battery-mate in Rick Ankiel.
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He tried to play hurt the day after his heroics.
Washington didn’t like him hiding his injury because it made them thin at catcher. Went to the DL, went to rehab, struggled, never saw him again.
I liked the part with Madison Bumgarner.
That was great.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Hey do you remember..
That game 4 of the World Series when Bumgarner threw 8 scoreless? Good times…
I call shenanigans
There’s no such game on baseball-reference.com
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 31, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, THERE It Is...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX201010310.shtml
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
I liked the part with Brian Wilson as well.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I found this weekend quite pleasant.
Gonna be a long day at work tomorrow though. Damn east coast making me wait for a night game.
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
Murph calling in to the KNBR postgame show from Dallas right now.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Madison Bumgarner: 1-0 in front of Barbara Bush.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
SAP is better
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
NO JINXES
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Where will you all be watching tomorrow?
I usually watch at home with my boyfriend, but we’re thinking we need to kick it up a notch and not be such hermits – we live downtown and so there are tons of potential bars – does anyone have a favorite? Also considering staking out at Public House like um, now, since I’m sure it’ll be insane tomorrow. Anyway, just wondering what everyone is planning…
LaRo... LaRucch.. La... Laaa Laaa ain't gonna hear from him no mo'
by MadDogRant on Oct 31, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL OH WOW
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“This is not the first baseman you’re looking for”
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry but...
Can someone please identify this guy? Yahoo! keeps posting this picture with every article related to the series… starting to haunt dreams…
Tommy Hunter I think.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Phil Hughes
Feed the Panda some bamboo
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Oct 31, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I’ve noticed this. I have no idea why Hughes’ pic appears in World Series coverage.
by non sequitur on Oct 31, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
he's on the Yankees
the World Series is occurring
the Yankees must be in the world series
QED
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He’d be a Cy Young winner in the NL.
With Joba finishing 2nd, of course.
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Can’t believe I have two midterms tomorrow that will keep me away from a tv from 5:45 to 8:35. I’m seriously thinking of taking the first one and just flunking the second class.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Kidney Stones.
And beg to take the midterms in a day or two.
It’ll work!
*Note – I don’t actually advocate doing this. Just it’d be awfully tempting.
I’m probably going to e-mail her first thing in the morning and see if I can take it before my first midterm. That way I at least get out by 7:00.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the presence or absence of near rioting in the city will be a give away if the Giants win or not. Will be tivoing though just in case it’s something I want to save for ever.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can always retake the class….there is only one game 5 in the WS for the Giants
"Were you safe?"
-some reporter
"Ah, I guess its a good thing we dont have instant replay right now."
-Buster Posey #28
by sfgiants2005 on Oct 31, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I absolutely blame the Giants for my relatively lackluster GPA this semester. This semester I apply for law school.
by JSing on Oct 31, 2010 11:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
whoa
"I don't know what you're talking about," Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
MadBum’s secondary stuff was touch and go.
he was getting ahead with the FB, then he’d try the breaking pitch or the changeup, which were waaay out of the zone a lot of the time. But I think he got more than his share of groundballs on outside part of the plate slurves.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
In fact . . .
. . . his changeup was superb, as all who spoke of it afterward said.
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I can't believe this is happening.
Madison Bumgarner is a cool guy.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
DRINK IN THE PRESENT/FUTURE...FFFFFFFFFFFING AWESOME!!
"Were you safe?"
-some reporter
"Ah, I guess its a good thing we dont have instant replay right now."
-Buster Posey #28
by sfgiants2005 on Oct 31, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 22 recs
Epic.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Woah
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
Total garbage, he was, throwing pitches in the strike zone that were called balls.
He just didn’t have it tonight.
I was more
THIS UMP IS SHIT!
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Was mostly just a lot of kvetching
about the terrible strike zone.
should have left Zito on the roster
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
I sharted a little.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
It's the same shit on KTVU after every giants game. They send some half-ass reporter out to a local dive bar to "report" while people cheer in the back.
This is beyond torture. This is beyond baseball.
Bobby V makes a good point on TV. Sanchez's dirty at bat tired out Hunter right before Huff's blast.
This is beyond torture. This is beyond baseball.
Me, circa 1994
That’s how I feel right now. 4 years old. C’mon Giants.
"Fuck yeah, shut up." - Tim Lincecum
by techsig12 on Oct 31, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
@MLB
MLB
You would have thought the #SFGiants were the team down 3-1 if you were in their clubhouse after the game. #focused
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
beautiful
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You gotta be focused.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing is, it happened.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Good to hear.
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
No 7th inning game balls for this bunch.
Anagram of "SF Giants National League Champs" = A HOT, GAINFUL, MAGIC PLEASANTNESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
:D
Somewhere in the minor leagues, Joe Paterson is pitching.
by imovermyhead on Oct 31, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
winner!
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 31, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hai!
Long time lurker. first time poster.
Central CA native living in TX.
Was there for Game 3, just got back from 4. Going to 5.
I am tired and AMPed and nervous and confident.
I’ll post pics if y’all want to see them tomorrow.
Now it’s time for some MAGIC MOJO beer.
FNM
how many of these do you have?
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Oct 31, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t want to know.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Good news either way
When this series is over, you will not hear Joe Buck or Tim McCarver next season unless the Giants are on FOX in New York or Philadelphia. These two idiots won’t be covering another Giants or Rangers game unless it’s in the Northeast.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
why is that?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Opinion
I wanted to hold this question off until appropriate.
Are we the best pitching team of the decade? Or the 01 DBacks?
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Oct 31, 2010 10:19 PM PDT reply actions
FWIW
2010 Giants Team ERA+: 121
2001 Diamondbacks Team ERA+: 121
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
also
2001 Atlanta Braves: 124 ERA+
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW
2002 Atlanta Braves: 133 ERA+
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL GLAVINE
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 31, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
LOL Damien Moss 122 ERA+
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, That 133 ERA+ is better than any of the 90’s Braves teams!
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Well, the 90’s didn’t have the Ace Austrailian
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Oct 31, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Where are you getting these from? I still like us in an eye-test with a 4-man playoff rotation.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Oct 31, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Since you said “best pitching team”, I’m looking at the Team ERA+ on Baseball-reference
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if you take out the Wellemeyer starts, and just focus on the guys we have in the postseason
I’d put us up against any team in history.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
well
I don’t know my history well enough to say that, but any team for a while anyways.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
so do you throw out bautista and medders and joaquin, etc and only use the current bullpen, small samples and all?
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I'm just focusing on starters
the 4 guys we have in the playoff rotation. I’d put those 4 up against any combination of pitchers in the majors. They’ve already beaten the “supposed” best rotation, and are now doing a good job against the supposed best pitcher in the game this season.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
see, I’d include at least part of the bullpen. There are plenty of rotations that are great, but have horrid bullpens. A good Bullpen makes a good staff great
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
..I guess
I’m not really talking in terms of “who could win a game” or whatever though. Im just talking in terms of pure talent. It’s hard to top a team that has 3 guys who could conceivably be number 1 starters on other teams.
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And a 4th who at any time could be on that level
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
In just the 2000’s? Hudson/Zito/Mulder/Lilly/Harden would be up there.
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly two of these guys are still any good
But man back in the day they were the tits
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
and do you include Zito?
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
For my original question yeah, best playoff rotation nah.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Oct 31, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
and, based on the teams I’ve looked up that I remember being good off the top of my head, the 2001 A’s, 2003 A’s and 2005 White Sox were all better, but it was close on all 3
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree about the A’s teams. The 05 White Sox had a rotation full of career years, so I would take our rotation over theirs, Sanchez breakdown aside.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose you could try to adjust the ERA+ to bias it towards the top 4 starters and back of the bullpen, but you’d still want to include every pitcher who pitched because if you eliminate the small sample pitcher, you could lose key players in the bullpen that joined later in the season, such as Ramon Ramirez
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think to really determine the best pitching staff, in terms of postseason relevance, you need to do a bit of math.
Game 1 Pitcher x2
Game 2 Pitcher x2
Game 3 Pitcher x2
Game 4 Pitcher x1
Divide by seven.
That gives you the starting rotation’s ERA+.
Then dig into the bullpen, and do something similar – focusing on the ‘back end’ of the bullpen, for a playoff series. Wight the closer heavily, and specialists slightly less so, virtually ignoring inning eaters and weighting middle men lower.
Why ERA+, though?
FIP and xFIP (or even the rarely used tERA) seem to do a better job of separating defensive contributions/luck.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
ERA+ gets you how good the pitchers are relative to the league
A 3.00 ERA (or FIP or xFIP or tERA) would have been way more impressive in 2001 than it is today.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
FIP is scaled to league average.
It’s formula has a constant that is used for this purpose.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, really?
Why? Isn’t the point to determine how many runs you’d give up based on your peripherals? Why would that change depending on the league average?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
It's mainly a copout to look like it's on the same scale as ERA.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
And that’s the sound of me losing some respect for FIP
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Someone could easily do
FIP+ if they felt like it. It would be easier than ERA+, since it doesn’t involved any park adjustments.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You can use whatever you want, to be honest.
This is just the principle I’d use when evaluating a playoff pitching staff. I used ERA+ because people did in the thread above me.
I just used ERA+ for simplicity sake: you could say that the 2002 Braves were one of the best staffs of all time because they pitched 33% better than league average. I’m not advocating it’s the best methodology by any means.
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by Speedforthewin on Oct 31, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We are a better pitching team than the 2001 Diamondbacks, because we released Byun Hyung Kim during Spring Training. QED.
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So do the Giants leave Huff at DH for tomorrow’s game as well?
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
Huff back to first, Ishikawa out, Burrell at DH?
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Preferable.
With either Nate or Rowand in the outfield. I’d go with Rowand until Lee is out of the game, and then swap to Nate. But that’s just me.
Will Torres in center is definitely preferable, I think a Ross, Rowand, Torres outfield is pretty damn good. I’d rather, and I can’t believe I’m going to type this, have Rowand’s bat in the line-up.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
*While
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 31, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Against a left hander?
I agree. It’s Nate or Rowand, and while Nate has this odd ‘reverse platoon’ split going, I don’t trust in it, or his bat. Get Nate in there late if we have a lead, or if Lee comes out of the game, period.
not even I want to see that
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by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob neyer
Dude likes to make excuses.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I hope he makes some more tomorrow
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I thought he liked the giants
Guess he’s a cocaine antlers guy.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Oct 31, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
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It’s probably just another artery clogged with maple syrup that’s causing him the agony.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Oct 31, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe he’s just flabbergasted by the whole thing. but aren’t we all.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I still don't get the anti-Ratto atmosphere here.
He is bright, knowledgeable, articulate, cuttingly honest, and under the sarcasm (and not far down under) friendly. At times when he has ranked the Giants’ chances lower than emotional fans were ranking them, he was only saying what rational sense suggested.
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That he is a frequent guest on Jim Rome is Burning is telling.
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Ratto is often clever and turns a good phrase. People don’t like him because they haven’t been subjected to Jay Mariotti or T.J. Simers.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 1, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Ratto is a good writer who can also be irritatingly smug. He is better at his job than most columnist-types, but most columnists are pretty terrible, it seems.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Flew back to SF from DC tonight
On one hour of sleep.
So fucking pumped. ONE MORE
My God
Is this real? Pinch me, I must be dreaming!
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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Overflow thread up yet?
Seems about dead to me.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
via ESPN blog
Had Andrus been ruled safe, it would have safe, the Rangers would have had a runner at first with two outs against Milton Bumgarner, who to that point, had allowed just two hits, with Michael Young and Josh Hamilton due up
by TimLaser and MattyC on Oct 31, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions
Tonight he was Milton the Monster
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Texas took his stapler.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 31, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
he didn't get any cake
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 31, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If 8.0 innings pitched of dominating starting pitching in the World Series isn’t enough to make the nation know who you are and get your name correct, I don’t know what will
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by deuce deuce on Oct 31, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
With the Giants starting Tom Lincecum tomorrow, they have a chance to win this thing!
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
/tears
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
People don't know our closer's last name.
by AsDevilsRun on Oct 31, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL so true
I keep hearing Neftali Perez every time they mention him
by hautecouture on Oct 31, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
But he struck out Jose Uribe to end Game 3!
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LOL fail
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuuuuudge
This isn’t the post you’re looking for. . .
For WilltheThrill, this is Jon Miller saying goodnight. . . .
by WilltheThrill on Oct 31, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT I FIXED IT AND THEN YOU WERE LIKE WHAT?
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 31, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
by bondslegend on Oct 31, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
1!
One….. one frickin’ win. ONE. One more. This is not real, is it? 1!
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 31, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions
Ralph drunk on KNBR
Needs to be cut off.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Because November is about to start
I just turned the page on my Giants calendar. I was curious what player is the new months representative…Aaron Rowand.
What does this mean?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 31, 2010 10:37 PM PDT reply actions
Also, the Giants are bad for my healthy.
When that last pitch was called a strike, I jumped out of my seat … on my grade two ankle sprain.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
health.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
New thread is above and new
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
I gotta get this outa my system before tomorrow
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by ZenPop on Oct 31, 2010 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I could watch this 1000 times...
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
This was posted at the Ranger blog page
And I fucking LOVE IT
http://inception.davepedu.com/
Renee should just start spamming it over the stadium PA system when Brian Wilson comes in to pitch.
Fuck the Dino Velvet guy
what a douche question to ask. And i love Brian’s reaction. “are you trying to do something funny right now”
Focused
as fuck.
the texans
are going nuts over at LSB. its awesome.
by PocketfullofPoseys on Oct 31, 2010 11:19 PM PDT reply actions
SHIFT-A
MAN, BUSTER JUST WASN’T HAVIN’ IT.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 31, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions
Woooo!!!
That is all.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
WOOOOOOOOOOOO
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Oct 31, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
One more
all i do is win win win no matter what
by City by the Bay on Oct 31, 2010 11:42 PM PDT reply actions
Just one win away...
Good times for a change
See, the luck we’ve had
Can make a good fan
Turn bad
So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the San Francisco Giants share their dreams
With you and me
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
I checked out your profile.
Dodgers, Lakers, Patriots, and Trojans? That’s a lot of fail right there, my friend.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
bruin raiders warriors
i wouldnt be talking my friend
Time difference is a bitch - just like the rangers
As a young man born and raised in Denmark, Europe, i must say it is a pleasure watching the Giants beating the crap out of everyone else with class til 4-5-6 in the morning on school nights due the time difference. Now let’s win the WS so a have reason to skip another class since i’ve now lost half of my family since the playoff’s started.
Good day my american friends.
by Christoffer James V Ferreira on Nov 1, 2010 1:22 AM PDT reply actions
Hardcore.
Adoptive father of the enigmatic Michael Sandoval, and living vicariously through his proximity to Joe Mauer and the Panda.
The Rangers need to win three in a row. The Giants only one of three
Then why am I still worried? Is it because I’ve been a Giants fan for 32 years?
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Relax
It’s going to happen.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
The Giants only one of three
/points to Padres series at end of season
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 1, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
And I was a complete pessimist at the beginning of the season
I thought this team was at best an 80-84 win club.. The Freak would continue to be good, Cain would surely regress to the mean, Sanchez would improve but still have moments of ineffectiveness.
The bullpen was a mystery and the projected starting lineup wold rank as one of the worst in the National League, at least on paper. I decried the signing of Aubrey Huff as example of Brian Sabaen’s love affair with playes well past their prime. Then the sent Posey to the minors to begin the season. Ugh.
Now, here we are. How we got here is interesting and honestly, to me, still a bit of a mystery. I mean, Sabean deserves credit for changing course midseason when it became obvious the offense wasn’t going to right itself anytime soon (although you could make a strong case that it should have been obvious prior to the season starting that the lack of hitting would plague this team ). And then the perfect storm – the Padres suddenly became inept, the Giants pitching dominated for more than six weeks, a collective of unheralded players and one young rookie catcher hit when they needed it, and the Giants won the division title. The playoffs, well, hell, that was supposed to be a bonus for an unexpected late-season run. And now the Giants stand on the precipice of history. I am awestruck.
Regardless of how this turns out, as a longtime baseball fan, this season was delightful.
I must admit, that the prospect of the Giants winning a World Championship is almost too much to wish for, even now.
Ed Jurak
By the way . . .
. . . are you perchance really the Ed Jurak who played in ’89?
Sabean delendus est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Don’t you think that it would be a little bizarre for someone in a chat room to adopt the name of an obscure ’80’s ballplayer?
by biff pocoroba on Nov 1, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Who would do that?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 1, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
well
he wasn’t THAT obscure, wasn’t he supposed to be a future star for the Braves at one point?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Nov 1, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
No I am not really Ed Jurak
I can’t believe anyone remembers Ed Jurak.You people are fantastic.
But I always liked obscurity, much more interesting than fame.
No, not the real Ed Jurak, just your average displaced Giants fan. Wish I could be in San Francisco to watch this unfold.
owlcroft remembers everyone
When God brought all the animals before Adam for him to name them, owlcroft took roll call.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Are the Rangers seriously this outclassed or is this just everything coming up Milhouse for the Giants?
This has been just an unbelievable Series to watch, and I say that as someone who both hoped for and expected the Rangers to beat the Giants. Wow.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Nov 1, 2010 2:22 AM PDT reply actions
Maybe a little of both.
The Giants are exceptionally well set up for ‘series’ baseball. Top flight starting pitching, lights out back end of bullpen (with specialty guys that are death on their respective hands), a deep lineup that is not dependent on 1-2 players, defensive depth for when they go into lock down mode in late innings.
While they aren’t the deepest team, they have all the parts to make a short series ‘work’, for lack of a better term. And they’ve done it with the two guys that probably have the best stuff on the staff, struggling somewhat. It’s quite remarkable.
They also have the capacity to make another team work so hard for a win that they come out flat the next time out, or so it seems.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
Jason Stark writes a fantastic article
It’s about the pitching, stupid. This team has always been built around all these bionic arms. Always.
Yes, friends, those San Francisco Giants are one win away. One win away from wiping out the ghosts of Scott Spiezio and Ralph Terry and the Richter Scale. One win away from ending the wait of millions of people who have managed to survive more than a half-century of title-free torment. And we can’t underestimate the magnitude of what that one more win would mean.
[Felipe Alou:] A team is not necessarily a bunch of great players together. But this team — this is a team.
But lest we forget, the 2010 One Win Away Giants wouldn’t be in this spot without the 21-year-old kid who went to the mound on Halloween — and wore the best Sandy Koufax costume in America.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THE GIANTS ARE ONE WIN FROM THE CHAMPIONSHIP
And Madison fucking BUMGARNER!
On a side note, I’m in LA right now at 3:01am where I live. Tomorrow morning I will be heading to SF for the third time in the last month (San Diego series, 3/4/5 of the NLCS) for a possible celebration!
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