Post-game thread: Giants can't catch up in Game Three
Admit it. There was a small, sick part of you that thought there would be four straight games of torture-free baseball. The Giants would use the World Series as their venue to pull off their mask, WWF-style, and let us know they were messing with us the whole time. That torture thing? Style points. That's all it was. Sweep! Sweep! Sweep!
Yeah. No.
As much as I want to slag Jonathan Sanchez tonight, it's worth noting that Mitch Moreland was millimeters away from whiffing on a breaking ball on two separate occasions. I didn't like a possible fastball call before the pitch, and I really didn't like it when Moreland put it fifteen rows back. Sanchez didn't help by leaving it over the plate, of course. Actually, I probably didn't need the last eight words of that last sentence.
Shake it off. Just like the Ankiel game and the second game of the NLCS, this is a loss that feels worse than it might have otherwise felt because of a sense of momentum that doesn't exist. If momentum were a real thing in baseball, we'd be watching the Braves and the Yankees right now, rooting for March.
The only thing that really, really bothers me about tonight -- other than the slow burn of a tough loss -- is the thought of Jonathan Sanchez starting Game Seven. Every loss inches the Giants closer. So I'd like to humbly suggest that they win two games before it gets to that point. Think it over, Giants.
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH
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by sadison bummedgarner on Oct 30, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions
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Giants win one in Arlington, then win one more at home.
That’s all that is needed.
(//_-)
I am emo.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
by shahbazi3 on Oct 30, 2010 7:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
For some reason
I found this game to be less enjoyable than the previous two. I’m running through all the different variables trying to find the cause, but I haven’t come up with anything conclusive so far.
That game sucked
and we got out played by the better team in their park. Walk this one off, come back tomorrow and go after Tommy Hunter.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
nah
walking Molina ended up giving a free run, and Burrell’s golden sombrero was too much to overcome.
They can mash for sure, but nice double plays, Burrell’s catch, and whatnot held them down.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
STOP
walking Bengie goddam Molina. And win tomorrow or start wondering who will start game 7.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
Molina and Francoeur had 3 walks
How the hell is that even possible
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
You know what is possible?
Bengie hit into a triple play but the Giants decided they only needed 2 outs.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Vlad walked too.
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It has to be Sanchez
There’s just no other good choice. Bummy on 3 days rest? Timmy on 2? No chance.
Sanchez had all his pitches working tonight, and still lost his arm slot between batters and managed to give up 4 runs.
He’s already inconsistent as all hell, and in his last 2 playoff games has pitched 6-2/3, giving up 6ER. This is the guy you want all of our season hanging on?
No thanks. I dont have a better idea right now, but no. Sanchez can’t handle that pressure.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
His stuff didn't have a whole lot of life tonight, IMO
His arm may have picked an inopportune time to call it a season.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, it seems that way
The velocity and the movement have been off the past two starts. If it gets to a game 7, this is a problem.
by scotterduder on Oct 30, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The team has a bullpen
Throw him out on a short leash, and voila. G7 is do or die, anyone can come in.
short leash, meaning what? one walk, and he’s done? one run? it’ll happen so fast, why even bother letting him start?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is our version of woody now?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
We really don’t have a pitcher who’s anything like Rueter nowadays. Certainly not a starter.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
nah
They started Livan in game 7 because Livan Never Loses In The Postseason.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Maybe
It has something to do with him pitching so many innings this season. He’s never gone over 163 innings before it’s not out of the question to think that he’s getting tired or has been tired. He’s at 193 regular season inningsnd 20 postseason innings putting him at over 200 innings this year. This is only his 3rd year as a starter? It might also be conditioning but I’m not sure.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
But Bumgarner's road splits make me a little happier...
Just a little… and we did hit as many HRs as them.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
When does Pat the Bat
Stop missing so bad? He’s been awful.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Might as well...
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
There's a pill for that
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
There's a Huff for that.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 30, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He has been atrocious.
He absolutely cannot play tomorrow. Which means he will, he’ll go 2-5 with a homer and a double, and I’ll claim I was reverse jinxing him, and I’ll run around yelling, “He was due!”
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
If regression to the mean doesn't exist with Cody Ross...
Progression to the mean sure as hell doesn’t with PTB. He’s minutes late on these pitches…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
He's lost up there
Been looking awful this Series and in the NLCS despite the hits in the last two games there.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand and Nate Schierholtz were lost THE WHOLE GODDAMN SEASON.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
they're due!
I like Nate a lot but putting him and Ishi in the lineup together is hard to imagine.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
What about huff in left and ishi at first
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
I am not hot on putting guys
in positions they haven’t played in a long time, although Huff has done well enough in such situations. I still don’t understand how that solves the DH problem.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just figuring Sandoval would stay put, though he looked awful today as well and doesn’t deserve the leash that should be awarded to
Burrell
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
Pablo should not DH again, and if he does, it’s in the 9 slot where he can’t hurt the team. That was a shit performance tonight
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually the 8 slot is the perfect place for the DH
You try to use the number 9 for a secondary leadoff hitter
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Rent!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
right, but if Pat is being dropped in the order, he takes walks, and you don’t want Burrell/Pablo/Rent because Pablo is GIDP prone. i was thinking 9 slot, because that’s usually a slot the Giants get nothing out of. So if Pablo gets on, its a bonus, while if he gets out, no harm done
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand has even admitted to such.
Something about “Full on panic mode”
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
jprony should be the Giants new manager
so erudite, and so steady in his decision making
"her"
Sabean delendus est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
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Selig would never allow a woman to run a “man’s game”.
Oh, silly owl
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually thought Schierholz
should have pinch hit to start the 9th. In a one-run game I’d let Burrell hit, but in a “need to get on base” at bat, I’d have gone with the lefty over a “clueless-looking right now” Burrell. Not that it probably would have mattered, but still.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
In a “need to get on base” at bat, you’d put in the guy with a career .295 OBP vs right handed pitchers.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Really, is he that bad?
TBH, I haven’t checked stats. If he’s that bad, then I stand corrected. I should have said, “Whatever LH you think has the best chance to reach base against Feliz.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He is an awful hitter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well, choices are him, Ishikawa, Fontenot
Not the heart of anyone’s order, fo’ shizzle. Perhaps why Bochy sighed and stayed with Burrell.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, that’s a decent guess. Especially since Burrell was the 2nd best hitter on the Giants during the regular season.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
That's nice, but every hitter goes through periods
of seeing the ball great and not seeing the ball well, and at the moment Burrell is simply not seeing the ball at all. Heck, Colby Lewis made mistakes up in the zone each of the first two pitches in Burrell’s first AB and he swung through both. It happens.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
of seeing the ball great and not seeing the ball well, and at the moment Burrell is simply not seeing the ball at all
This is a really dumb way to predict how hitters will do in the future.
Case in point: Pat Burrell had a .933 OPS in the NLDS. He was OMG HOT…until he wasn’t.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Nico
I don’t disagree with you, I think the problem is the alternatives. Burrell might run into one, and maybe tomorrow’s starter will leave one up. Nate, probably not.
Also, you’re a credit to AN and I hope the PANICRAGE doesn’t turn you off here.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He couldn’t catch up to Lewis, what made you think he was going to do anything against Feliz?
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I agree, he should have been PH for.
4 K’s is serious. He has 8-9 K’s in the WS in only 12 ABs or something
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
pinch hit for by whom?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh, right.
There’s not a better option. That isn’t putting a worse player out there and praying.
rec'd
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
omg
can you imagine?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i can imagine Bonds and his ego killing this team back in May. The past Giants were good for Bonds, but this present team would fold with him on the 25 man
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know, ...
aside from the wheelie truck washer, most of BLB’s teammates seemed to get along well with him.
it was always the Barry show. You know that.
This 2010 team is the exact opposite.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, adding one of the best hitters in baseball history would definitely have sucked. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
except for Game 3 NLCS
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your kind words.
You’re exactly right, too — the alternatives were bad enough that sticking with Burrell probably made sense. Sometimes a manager has to go, “This will probably end badly but whaddya gonna do?”
I would most certainly start Burrell tomorrow, by the way. You never know how many days a blip like this will last and a good night’s sleep can do wonders.
Yeah, I was surprised and disappointed by the tone of the replies to my comments (my first ever on here), but I guess the internet is the internet: Everyone knows more than everyone and needs to prove it in the most dismissive way possible. Ah well.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
No fanbase can be expected to be a gracious host following a tough loss.
"C'mon Joe, GET WET!" - Jon Miller
This is true
I’m not as emotional as a die-hard Giants fan would be, though I am rooting for the Giants to win.
In fact, one of the reasons I like rooting for the Giants, in general, is that I care but I don’t get bleeding ulcers over their games as I do with the A’s — that is, I want the Giants to win, but when they don’t it doesn’t take me 40 minutes just to be able to face the world as it does with the A’s. So I get that others are a lot more emotional right now than I probably am.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
as you may notice
regular is turning on regular tonight as the Giants irrevocably ruin their season.
Thanks for stopping by. I should admit I have been lurking the AN threads and mock Giants-hating A’s fans, but I have seen your posts and admire your trying to have baseball conversations amidst the various TEH RINGZZZ BOO GNATS stuff.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
irrevocably?
Let me suggest being a Royals fan. We just pretend to have it bad. They really do.
I dunno
Is it worse to get tantalizingly close and then get repeatedly kicked and stabbed in the groin, or to always expect your team to suck, so anything else is a nice surprise?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
It is deeply silly to say the Giants have irrevocably ruined their season, though.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I like the hope involved with this team.
At least we are happy most of the time.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
We had to suffer through 6 weeks of Guillen
They had almost 3 years of him
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
We had more Neifi Perez games, though!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Touche
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Riposte: Yuniesky P. Betancourt
Though I guess he did have 0.6 WAR this year or something. Whee!
Although they gave up a good player for Betancourt
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Tough call
I think rooting for a team that consistently stunk for a whole generation would just get old. What would be the point? Oh yay, we’re 75-87 again.
In the same way that I don’t think many fan bases can understand the horrific pain of being a Giants fan, we really have no appreciation for the utter despair of rooting for a lousy loser that never gets any better. Group therapy time.
/chasm
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I apologize if I was being snippy. The conversation had already begun in the GDT and put me in kind of a bad mood. I didn’t even realize you were a visiting fan.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I run Athletics Nation.
I came over here because I’m tired of AN hating on everyone who is rooting for the Giants to win. Let people root for who they want! So I thought I’d mingle with a friendlier group…but that…didn’t go so well…but now it’s going better!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I had no clue, I never read AN. I had honestly assumed you were a Giants fan, which is why I was a bit dismissive about you not knowing about the Giants players. Sorry!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
can i just make a point for a second here? if someone comes on here, and you are being “dismissive” towards them because they don’t know alot about the Giants but are trying to learn, why would someone come here to begin with?
isn’t the whole point to educate new fans?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually follow the Giants closely.
I’m just not as familiar with the stats of bench players as I am with the A’s. But that doesn’t detract from your point, which is IMO a good one. What if I were a brand new fan who knew little about baseball? Not the most welcoming welcome.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I’m not an ambassador for Giants baseball. I’m just a fan.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hey, the words "just" and "fan" should not be next to each other.
We are all part of the blood that flows through the veins of this team.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Fans are what make a team exciting to watch.
that and winning. But the passion involved in being a fan…it gives the real players a reason to give 110% everyday. It becomes less about the money and more about the fact that they have loyal fans who stick by them through thick and thin
I want to stay a fan forever.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
well, they’ve got us there, cause if they move to LA, we’ll all probably organize a MCC Golden Gate Bridge Jump.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I have nothing against you jprony, you know that
but while you are not an ambassador to Giants baseball, you are a mod on this site, so you are held to a higher standard.
I’m just saying that you might have brushed off a new fan who wanted to learn. I’m not talking down at you, or trying to start anything, just finishing my point.
/exits self from conversation
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s not how it works here.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 31, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
ok, thats fine, cool. i just wanted to ask the question, just curious.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to McC
We eat our young!
TBH it’s been hard to figure out who are the visitors from other SBN sites and who are newbies signing up after seeing McC mentioned somewhere else, or via Yahoo or whatever. Funny, it wasn’t a real problem during the Great Back-up Catcher Debates of 2007
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
THE RACE TO 70 WINS!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
LOL
I wish I was here then.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I was not here for those either
I was lurking during the 2008 season, joined the end of that year.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I lurked here last year and finally joined in May.
I didn’t really post much until the Summer.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
lol n00bs
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Oh hush Grandpa.
Don’t make me send you back to the home again.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I feel like I should get participation credit since I just joined like last week but I’ve been married to jcb9 through quite a few baseball seasons now.
Does he talk about Kim Batiste in his sleep?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I think that's hazard pay
but welcome anyway. I think a lot of spouses are over-the-shoulder-readers.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You're not really Mrs. jcb, are you?
Is this like when groug posts as “groud”?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
don't believe the hype
Total sockpuppet. Everyone knows I could never score with a girl.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Are you trying to say that I married Women, the Calgary-based rock band?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I just saw that band play here in San Francisco last week! It was right after the Giants clinched against Philly.
Great night.
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 31, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions
lol same-groud marriage
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Read going back to the Waiting for Boof days.
Registered in January 2006 to complain about bad KNBR commercials.
Starting participating regularly in the second half of 2007.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I lurked
at the beginning of 2008 but I didn’t understand most of the jokes so I never bothered to join. Then I started understanding it and the deeper stuff in baseball. So yeah I’m still a noob, but I try my best not to show it….though I fail at hiding it most of the time
You're like me (I hope), one of the good ones.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I HOPE I'm good, but I'm not too sure
Most of my posts lately have been for shits and giggles /points to colby lewis thread last night
Yeah I’m not super savvy when it comes to stats so I just make up for it with agreeing with people who I know…actually know what the hell they’re talking about
LOL I feel like just as in real life I am underestimated on here.
I have an understanding of the commonly used sabermetrics and some of the memes and quirks of the site, but, I dunno. Sometimes it’s like I’m talking to myself.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Let's make a pact
I’ll reply to your stuff, you reply to my stuff, DEAL? lolz but yeah in RL I tend to spew things from here that I agree with. On here I’m not known to reply to intelligent threads…but in RL even before this I actually knew what I was talking about YAY FOR BEING A BASEBALL PLAYER XD
LOL I already have a pact like that with Letter.
So yes! One more for the collection. That makes two!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
NO
YOU DO NOT.
I mean, it was fun and all but I’d much rather be kvetching about losing one out of 3 games in the WS.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been posting since the a.s.b.sf-g days
Of course, that was before Waiting for Boof then. But Gregg was around, and we all knew the sound a true Giants fan makes.
Of course, I stopped posting at some point, and never signed up for McC even when I was posting on Kos, and he was talking about McC. I went hardcore SABR for awhile, and posted on primer and did a bunch of statistical modeling, but grad school got in the way, and for the past few years, my fandom has consisted of occasionally hitting sfgiants.com, espn.go.com/mlb, and McC for news updates.
I used to post on the usenet group, too. Abe Vigoda 4 life.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Are you Jonathon?
I seem to remember a jcb by the name of Jonathon who worked or was affiliated with UCB.
Maybe the years have just caught up to me, and I’m delusional.
The name’s Josh.
I posted off and on. If you search Google Groups, you can find a really embarrassing post I wrote in 1996 wherein I argued that Shawon Dunston should be re-signed because he was hitting .300, playing good defense, and always hustled.
I was 16. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
LOL
Always hustled, you never saw him walking anywhere.
AMIRITE?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I’m aware of the chasm, but on the rare occasions he drew a walk, he really did run to first base.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Was not really a chasm
more just a joke on the fact that he is the poster boy against walks around here.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
What I meant was that I knew that that was what you meant….if that makes any sense whatsoever.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Oh. Gotcha
In celebration of reaching the end of our conversation, enjoy this image of a cactus with maracas and a sombrero.

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Hmmm... must've been someone else, then.
LOL. we’ve come a long way in our metrics since then.
Seriously, since I started reading baseball stuff again, I’ve been bombarded with acronyms I wasn’t familiar with. And I’ve only been gone from the scene for about 3 years or so. FIP, xFIP, wOBA, WAR are all newer terms.
I left shortly after Win Shares and DIPS went in. Of course, the concepts were all familiar once I read up on them. Figures that FIP and wOBA would both be from tango. I did a lot of work with him in Primate Studies back in the day.
I am really looking for someone to pass some of my ideas to. I’ve had some ideas that I’ve waited years to work on, and now I realize that sabermetrics just isn’t a priority in my life and I’ll never get to them.
If that were the case, they might preface their posts with “I’m kind of new to baseball” or something. I’m not going to say I don’t want to help educate new fans, because sure, I do, but I would have a hard time saying that’s the “whole point” of this site, because it really isn’t, at least not for me.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think too, people are kind of worn out with some, SOME not ALL, of the “new fans.” This is a community that’s been through the wringer together for awhile now, and to have to continually explain the place to new people gets tiring.
FWIW, I’ve actually really enjoyed lots of the new folks who have started posting to this site recently. And the ones who are fairly obviously here because they heard about it on KNBR, or Baggs, or are just having a spasm of Giants-blogging because the team has made it to the World Series—that’s fine, too. I don’t expect they’ll be posting here during the Winter Meetings or anything.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I would have thought one didn't have to be
intimately familiar with Nate Schierholz’ stats to be presumed someone who might know something about baseball and/or welcomed without regard to their baseball experience, but…ok. I don’t care that much; it was just a little weird.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Look, as I said before, I thought you were a Giants fan. And as others have said, your timing was kind of poor, coming as it did after a loss and after there had already been a lot of argument at the end of the GDT about that very subject. I’ve apologized multiple times in this thread. I really am sorry I was an ass. I don’t really know what else you want.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
A pony.
And to be a martyr. And for poopinator to be named blogfather of McCovey Chronicles. That is all.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I am pretty worried that Grant is going to be impressed by his flawless arguments and revoke my modship, beginning the glorious era of poopinator.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just due to his name,
he ought to be #2 in command.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You win jponry
i have nothing to do with this thread, yet you still want to dog me. i’m done here
HA HA HA HA
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
:’(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Oct 30, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you
kind of had something else to deal with in this thread, so maybe rolling out the welcome mat was not the first thing you were thinking. Oh yeah the Giants lost too.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well my timing did suck, yes.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
not YOURS
Sanchez, and the moderate-ee herein.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor guy
you just picked a terrible night.
Welcome anyway.
Side note, why do so many of the folks at AN hate us?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
they hate our freedom.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
For serious
I popped over there the other day and was taken aback.
I mean, I can understand disliking the players or management or obnoxious fans or the market imbalance, and there’s plenty of that.
But there’s also just a general sense of hatred for all fans and the entire franchise.
Not that it keeps me up at night or anything.
But what if it did.
It has embarrassed me for the site, frankly
But what can I do? {Come over here, that’s what!)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Some of the other managers at AN seem to share some of those problems with us too.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I guess. Some do, some don't.
I don’t.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
From what I can gather,
the “territorial rights” thing has a part, the perception that the Giants compete with the A’s for $$$, jealousy over media coverage, and jealousy over payroll, current success, etc. Approximately in that order, as far as I can tell.
I say, “Go Bay Area,” m’self.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I cannot help but notice you put jealousy in there. /smug
but yeah, most of us here are pretty much go Bay Area, and root for the A’s unless they are playing the Giants.
Just as it is vice versa for most of the A’s fans I know.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
It's Natural?
I think it’s very natural for two teams that share the same market to setup a rivalry. They share the same newspapers and media outlets, so of course they’ll be compared side by side and of course they’ll compete for news headlines.
Look at all the other multi-team markets: Mets/Yankees, ChiSox/Cubs. You’re either a fan of one team or the other. Rarely do you support both.
Wash/Balt is too new, LAA/LAD are separate counties.
Hi Nico!
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 30, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, whatever hitter, period, has the best chance.
Being lefty may help improve one’s chances, but we needn’t limit our options.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yes
Nate is always the last guy you ever want batting on this team.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Well he's better than Whiteside
Sorta
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Nate Schierholtz gets walk off hits
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Only twice. SSS
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I don't like where this argument is headed
So I’ll just say, have you played the game before?
Geez.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
My little league trophy says yes
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Probably not
but Terrell Lowery was my HS baseball coach
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
well
NAte is pretty useful against lefties: Career .390 OBP
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Pat OBP vs RHP: 349
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Seriously
why isn’t this guy our manager?
We’ve barely made it to the WS on an ever changing roster with a team that was never suppose to win the NLW.
I hope you’re reading this Neukom.
:/
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
There’s slumps, and there’s having no idea what he’s doing at the plate. He just looks completely lost right now.
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
No, he fouled off some pitches and he has shown that he is still patient.
I still feel better with him out there than anyone else who would replace him. Though, I wouldn’t mind giving him a day off Game 5 regardless of the result of Game 4.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I hope y'all are right.
Watching him wave at breaking balls out of the zone break my heart.
I rarely tweet
I less-rarely write
"I ain't having it" - Buster Posey, hosing folks down
he should play, but shouldn’t bat in the middle of the order. 7th or even 8th
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He was fouling off pitches that were right over the heart of the plate when he wasn’t staring at them. Right now he can’t put anything in play, can’t hit anything that’s no right down the pipe, and can’t identify a breaking pitch. Burrell looked worse than Sandoval IMO; at least Pablo hit the ball (and hard sometimes too).
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
You could have said the same thing about Freddy Sanchez in G3 in the NLDS
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL201010100.shtml
Remember when Freddy Sanchez took two completely ridiculous, out of this world, wild swings against Craig Kimbrel before getting a hit?
Remember when Edgar Renteria had the worst at bat in history like four games ago?
Of course, I wanted to see him benched, then…but that’s because he also sucks, unlike Burrell.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
but, he doesn't suck
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
sure, he sucked last year
but this year he’s been pretty damn average
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
actually i'm sorry
way the fuck better than average.
2.5 WAR in 1/2 of a season
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
lol me
got the columns mixed up
1.3 WAR in 1/2 of a season
slightly above average
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
He has to play tomorrow.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He doesn’t have to bat cleanup though, I hope he gets dropped. He’s being exposed right now.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Exposed by what? Balls and/or strikes?
I doubt there’s a magical formula to retire Pat Burrell that was just discovered last week.
Thing C
exposed by the fact that he chases sliders off the plate and cannot hit inside fastballs. Ross needs to hit cleanup right now.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
That's quite awhile ago
and I was there, so I actually don’t know.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
HEY YOU GUYS WE NEED TO TALK ABOU THIS SOME MORE!!!!!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
That’s what these threads are for, right?
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
A thread that covers the same topic 80 times is a thread that I can do without.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
OT: my favorite baseball story of the day
The catcher from the cubs was pulled over with 8.5 POUNDS of weed in his car.
link?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
bullpen catcher
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you’re going to need at least one relaxing drug if you’re involved with the Cubs
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Oct 30, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ishi?
has had great ABs.
I’d rather take my chances with Huff at DH and Ishi at 1st than any more Pablo – who aside from th 2B against Philly has looked completely lost….again.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:12 PM PDT reply actions
Pat doesn’t do well as a DH to begin with. K’ing for times tonight isn’t gonna help.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He hates doing it, as well.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
yeah, he hates it too.
that’s not putting him in a situation to succeed on top of the recent troubles already
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This felt like a coors field game
Giants will adjust come back strong
by haroldansivakumar on Oct 30, 2010 7:12 PM PDT reply actions
SIT PAT BURRELL AND SANDOVAL TOMORROW
PUT PAT BACK IN GAME 5 AGAINST LEFTY
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Oct 30, 2010 7:13 PM PDT reply actions
Hmmmm-this line up?
Torres-CF
Sanchez-2B
Huff-DH
Posey-C
Ross-LF
Uribe-3B
Ishikawa-1B
Schierholtz-RF
Renteria-SS
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 30, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That looks pretty weak
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
that looks awful
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah
You gotta stick with PtB
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Hit Ross fifth, Ishi sixth and move Burrell down to seventh.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Honestly IF were starting Ishi or Nate (I'd stick with today's line up)
But if we have to use that false dichotomy, I’d prefer Nate starting and Burrell to DH
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
no burrell dh
he’s not comfortable there.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
It's 1 game
I’m sure he could handle it
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
yes let's make him less comfortable
i’m sure that will work wonders
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
bingo. he already K’ed 4 times. someone wants to make him LESS comfortable?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be difficult to have a worse game than 4Ks
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
…at least he went down swinging, hahaha
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure that his struggles as a DH were more coincidental than not.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Burrell is on record saying he hates being a DH.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I know
Fred Lewis also hates hitting leadoff. I don’t think Burrell would be too upset if he was DH’d for one game.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
FUCKING THIS
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
As I recall, it was Bochy who said Lewis told him he hates hitting leadoff, and Lewis later said he doesn’t mind it at all. I could be misremembering, though.
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I remember this as well
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in any case
it’s not putting your team in the best position to win.
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no, its not. putting people in position to succeed is vital.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
PANIC LINEUP
leading 2-1 in the WS?
Glad you aren’t Bochy.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Good if you don’t plan on scoring runs in a sandbox.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
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by Tim LinCyYoung on Oct 30, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
That bottom 3 looks pretty bad.
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Nate should not be anywhere near there.
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L Torres-CF
R Sanchez-2B
L Huff-DH
R Ross-LF
R Posey-C
L Ishikawa-1B
R Uribe-3B
L Schierholtz-RF
R Renteria-SS
another thought
L Torres-CF
R Sanchez-2B
L Huff-RF (played 34 games in RF, and this is a small RF)
R Ross-LF
R Posey-C
L Sandoval-DH
R Uribe-3B
L Ishikawa-1B
R Renteria-SS
needs more Burrell.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
the idea being he needs a day off. the guy isnt doing anything in the lineup. maybe a day off will help.
however, he does get credit for a great catch today
He had a day off yesterday.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
TOO MUCH THOUGHT
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Torres is a switch hitter
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
That wasn't even torture
That was just boring. Posey got hits at the wrong time as well.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
Maybe this will calmly remind everyone expecting a sweep that there is a lot of baseball to play
That game sucked.
It sucked, and yet the Giants were still right there at the end.
I feel strangely calm.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The Yankees went under .500 in September. I don’t think momentum would have them in the World Series.
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Oct 30, 2010 7:14 PM PDT reply actions
Had the same thought about Game 7
Upside to this is they will probably not start Lee in Game 4.
I said before the game that this was going to be a very hard one to win, but it still sucks.
The game in Texas not pitched by Lee is a must win, since we should not count on beating Lee again (though it would be awesome). We need to come back from Texas 3-2, because the thought of Sanchez starting Game 7 is really unnerving with these two recent performances burned into my brain.
I hope they don’t pitch Lee tomorrow, Burrell gets moved down in the order, below Uribe,
and Sandoval turns it around.
Hopefully my friends will calm down and stop assuming the Giants have this easy. The final scores were ugly, but Game 2 was close for most of the game, and Game 1 was a Lee performance we better not expect again (I want to say the same for Timmy, but deep down I know Lee is a little better right now).
Tomorrow Night is game 7
If the Giants lose the series is over
I laughed out loud, tbh.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
TIMMY IS PITCHING GAME 5
chill out plz
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
thank you voice of reason.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
against C-Lee though.
And this Rangers team has no quit whatsoever, and we’ve seen their bats be unrelentless before. It’s just going to be a matter of keeping composure, scoring early runs for Madbum and hopefully no bullpen meltdowns in this bandbox.
We saw the Rangers' bats be unrelentless in Game Two, por ejemplo.
Post-HRA Dirty aside, I really don’t see the potential loss of composure being an issue for this team.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even understand this comment. What does the fact that this is the first time the Rangers have been in the WS have to do with anything?
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I just love the term "virginal WS team"
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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Interesting note:
LSB’s rally pics are usually of… very well-endowed women. Kinda like our Christina Hendricks thing, but more non-stop Salma Hayek.
Game One turned while they were in an overflow GDT that was posted with a pouty-faced cups-runnething-over young lass that turned out to be fifteen.
A lot of posters blamed the perving on jailbait for costing them the game.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
he is. thats why he wants the 5 year olds FOX was showing
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The World Series of Costumes ones?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want it to have any meaning. I'm hoping that Texas goes onto 50 years with no title.
The Angels first trip to the WS was against us, right? They won. I don’t want our team to be the doormat for first timers. Not that their would be any less joy in losing to a perennial playoff opponent like the Yankees. But at least it wouldn’t be another team that got to celebrate ahead of us.
It was bad enough seeing the D’Backs, Angels and the fucking Marlins get their ahead of us…the Rangers?
Not having it.
How are we doormats? We beat the crap out of the Rangers in games 1 and 2 and barely lost this game.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah and we went seven games with the Angels. I guess 'doormat' isn't the perfect word, but I hope gist isn't lost on what I'm saying. The overall effect being...we lost.
Unless you thought the Giants were actually going to win in 4, a loss was inevitable.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i wouldnt have minded if we went to 3-0 before losing one or two…
being one win away for a couple days would be tough, but more tolerable
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Squat, and I say this with all the love I share for fellow Giants fans, take a deep breath, review the Series as it stands right now, and chill.
Tomorrow, things will seem so much better.
I'm more chill now than I was twenty minutes ago. Thanks. As a Giants fan I'm sure you know all too well how quickly our hopes for titles can evaporate.
Watching Burrell fan and fan and fan some more just feels like he’s not helping my pool of hope, he’s making it evaporate quicker with all of his fanning.
LOLwrong
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
But in all seriousness...
It was a tough game to watch… let’s revel in it together plz
by withclubsauce on Oct 30, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe take PTB out, Huff DH and...
Throw in Ishi/Schier?
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Wow, I can’t get over how many people want Nate Schierholtz to start tomorrow based on the results of 3 games.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
seriously, Nate Schierholtz?
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Sure. Move Pat to DH. Upgrade the defense, and it’s not like we got anything out of the DH spot tonight.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Well, you know i mean Schierholtz instead of Burrell.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Pat DH would still be dumb
for a few reasons
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He needs a shitload of cage time..
Or at least a slumpbuster tonight…
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Barbara Bush
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Boy, she does NOT qualify as a slumpbuster!
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
PAT THE BAT IS LOST
SCHIERHOLTZ HAS LOOKED SO GREAT EXCEPT FOR THE 50% OF POSTSEASON AT BATS IN WHICH HE’S STRUCK OUT LOOKING EVEN WORSE THAN BURREL HAS THE LAST COUPLE OF GAMES
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Schierholtz's favorite way to strike out is on the inside breaking ball in the dirt.
But I think at this point he can handle a fastball down the middle of the plate. At least you get defense with S.
uhhhhh
You know that three of Burrell’s strike outs came on sliders that were either off the plate or on a corner, right? And the fourth was a fastball off the plate?
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Yeah
Pat isn’t hitting ANYTHING, even pitches that are very, very hittable. A couple weeks ago he could’ve had two homers tonight with the fat pitches he was getting. Nate playing is arguable considering the defense and Pat is just horrible right now.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
I would take a look at Ishi at first and Huff and left for a game.
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
oh for the love of
You know, I kind of like Ishikawa actually, but he’s got a 91 career OPS+. His career line away from AT&T is .241 / .311 / .348
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Pat looks like an automatic K right now. He looks terrible. I’d start Ishi at 1b and throw Huff into the OF for a game.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I would argue that we can't take Burrell (no matter how awful) AND Sandoval out for the same game
Ishi and Nate aren’t the right kind of hitters in that place. We need the threat of a bomb at minimum seven spots in the lineup.
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by ToddCommish on Oct 30, 2010 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
FTFY
Ishi and Nate aren’t the right kind of hitters in that place
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How about Nate plays RF
And we let MadBum hit and DH for Nate?
/kidding, kinda
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No - Pat must stay...
Pablo needs to sit; this “slump” has lasted all season but Pat can and will adjust.
I agree
I’m fine with trying the Huff DH/Ishikawa 1B thing, though I wouldn’t mind giving Pablo another start, but Pat has to play. He is the 4th most important bat in the lineup.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
THIS.
Boch knows what’s up – this was a test for Pablo, that sadly he failed.
I think we all know what lineup we may see tomorrow – and it will NOT be a PANIC line up.
We’ll get em tomorrow.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that's the reasonable thing to try
with a slight improvement on defense, if nothing else.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrow
Go back out there, I would even be ok with the same roster. Work with the approach you were using during the early innings of this game, only this time, if the pitcher is having trouble, make him pay for it.
All these people clamoring for a drastic change would only be disappointed with the results. I mean, do you remember what a 4 PA night from Aaron Rowand looks like?
Marginally upgrading 1B defense when defense has not been our problem is not the answer. I like Ishi, but he has flourished as PH and not a regular guy. Scoring runs has been the Giants problems, so why use your extra hitter spot to put a defensive upgrade in?
Nate also cannot provide the power threat necessary. Sure his defense is slick, but again, the DH is not meant to put in an extra defensive player. You have to stick with Pat.
Also, remember Game 7 would be at home, where Sanchez has been pretty good lately.
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Yes. Although I’m concerned that the innings jump is finally taking its toll on him.
But either way, we’ll have all hands on deck for a potential Game 7.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Agreed.
He’s had a couple of put-up-or-shut-up opportunities this year: both the “we won’t look back” series and the final game vs the the Padres, Game 3 vs Atlanta, Game 6 vs the Phillies, and last night. He’s come through twice and looked between shaky and bad three times. I think he could have one more good one in him. Also, it’s generally obvious that he has it or doesn’t right away. So if he starts out shaky, go to the next guy. All hands on deck, as you say.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I would be.
He has not had a playoff game at home yet, and over his career he has been a better pitcher at home.
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Yes I would be
Sanchez has been enigmatic his whole career. Why are people shocked that he’s been enigmatic in the postseason?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
enigmatic=head case
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Head Case + Tired Arm
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone but Cain would be available for a game 7/
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Cain might even be available to pitch to one or two righties depending on his workload in Game 6. But it would take a massive pitcher usage failure by Bochy to get to that point.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain would be, too!
Didn’t Maddux famously come out of the pen one day for an inning the day after he pitched?
Randy Johnson too
In the 2001 World Series, came out and finished what Schilling started in game 7, after starting game 6. That was awesome.
by scotterduder on Oct 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
does it look like
0-4 with 9 K’s?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
I mean, do you remember what a 4 PA night from Aaron Rowand looks like?
Best quote of the night.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
I think I try to forget.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I know I'm gonna get skewered for this
but that looked like a really good pitch.
Sounds interesting...
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Can we talk pat?
He looked beyond awful- he has pit exactly one ball into play the entire ws.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
This is a new and exciting topic of conversation
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm on a phone jponry
hard to see the entire thread, and stArted when there were no posts. Let’s save the sarcasm
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
/puts sarcasm in tupperware
/brings in bweezy in the 9th inning of sarcasm
/calls 911 to report sarcasm stuck in a tree
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 30, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Move him down, but, I wouldn't take him out entirely.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Why are people shocked that Burrell strikes out? Is this the first time they’ve seen him before?
Ask me about my blog.
Lol'd
But to see him strikeout so frequently – yes.
by withclubsauce on Oct 30, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, most of them also want either Nate Schierholtz or Aaron Rowand to start tomorrow, so it’s not out of the realm of possiblity.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
start both!
ITS A MUST WIN
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Whiteside, too! GIT ER DUN BOCH!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
3.000 SLG
Science.
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Eli Whiteside hasn't made an out this entire postseason!
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
can he play LF?
I’m sure someone can loan him a glove.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Lowry to RF
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Schierholtz to 3B
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
GREAT SCOTT
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Cause Nate never strikes out and looks bad while doing so!
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He has struck out in half of his post-season at bats
He’s pressing far too hard.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
you know who else has struck out in half of his postseason at bats
NATE FUCKING SCHIERHOLTZ.
Ishikawa has struck out in 1/3 of his.
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Whiteside on the otherhand
Doesn’t even know how to make outs.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I get that
but striking out 10 times in 13 pa? That’s as bad a streak as I’ve seen from him – ever
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Game 3 of a 7 game series, Giants up 2-1. No excuse to be sad.
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It's one thing to strike out on a nasty pitch or on a bad call (Ishikawa's last strikeout).
What is alarming about Burrell is how he’s striking out.
I agree with this. He looked completely lost again tonight. I still want Pat over Schierholtz in the lineup tomorrow. But for that last at bat, I would have felt there was a better chance of Nate getting on base.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Admittedly, I built myself up for a win in Game 3
So it was all my fault, right? Right???
P.S. I’m just looking for an excuse to be sad about this game.
Now is the time to overreact
Not tomorrow, though. In that spirit, I suggest we put Velez in LF, DFA Posey, call up Guillen, and start Cain tomorrow.
ATTN: people who'd prefer Ishi or Schierholtz to Pablo
Pablo Sandoval, 2010: 616 PA, 1.9 WAR
Travis Ishikawa, career: 665 PA, 1.8 WAR
Nate Schierholtz, career: 758 PA, 2.4 WAR (half of which came in 2008, with a BABIP 35 points above his career average)
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by jcb9 on Oct 30, 2010 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I love you.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
And also, Travis and Nate's WAR are defense inflated.
Since Pablo will be in the DH spot, even at his absolute worst, he’s a better option than Nate, Ishi, or Rowand. Plus, he has the upside that they so sorely lack with the bat.
Be. Rational. People.
downside: double play machine. can’t take a walk.
your numbers are valid. but still.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
And Nate and Ishi are shining paragons of patience with the bat.
Double Plays happen by nature, when men are on in front of you. Albert Pujols hits into a ton of double plays, maybe the Cardinals should bench him for someone that doesn’t.
It can be argued that the players in front of him are too slow to make it to 2nd.
It’s not his fault he doesn’t have Michael Bourn on when he hits.
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It's also not entirely his fault that he's not Michael Bourn.
Dude puts the ball in play. Sometimes it’s for a hit, sometimes it’s not. Just so happens that if it’s not, there’s a good chance two outs will occur. That’s baseball. Double Plays are pretty meaningless to consider for a hitter.
we’ll agree to disagree
I’m hoping for Ishi at 1B and Huff at DH
and giving Pablo a day off.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But isn’t Nate’s defense replacing Burrell’s a better value than Ishi over Huff?
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Nate’s bat is terrible, and then there’s the issue of Burrell not feeling comfortable DHing.
Thing C
Ishi's bat is pretty terrible.
Neither Ishi, Nate, or Rowand should be starting, especially against a Right Hander. Rowand has a case to make against a Lefty, at least.
Ish hits alot of flyballs to right field. in TEX those are HRs
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
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so pathetically small.
flyballs hit the jetstream and take off, like Torres’ HR tonight
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Are people really calling for TI or Nate over Pablo to start?
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by Scott Coleman on Oct 30, 2010 7:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Everything.
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Mostly the fact that they aren't the Giants.
And they’re a good way to show that Momentum doesn’t exist, for he point he was trying to make.
It’d be pretty boring to watch Tommy Hanson watching television and drinking beer right now.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Glad you made it!
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A friend and I went to see The Social Network. Darn good movie.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I wanted to see that.
I hear the actor who portrays the fb maker guy is creepy.
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I real life? I have no idea. But he’s really good at playing a generally non-sympathetic character with just a hint of vulnerability.
But that Andrew Garfield? He can manage my venture capital investments any day. Rowrrrr.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I’ve heard this from my floor-mates as well…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
He was my favorite part, other than the dense, rapid-fire Sorkin dialogue. Frankly, I went for the Sorkin dialogue.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
You know, even though this wildly inconsistent, I even enjoyed Studio 60 for the first half-dozen episodes, just because of the Sorkin dialogue.
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Lincecum Tomorrow?
Hear me out… If we continue on our current pace we’ll have Sanchez lined up for game 7!
I say Lincecum tomorrow. If he wins, then Bumgarner in game 5 and Cain and Lincecum lined up for game 6-7 at home. If Lincecum Loses, pitch Cain on Monday, Bumgarner Wednesday, and Lincecum game 7.
Just a thought, but no way in hell Sanchez should pitch game 7! Or Bumgarner on 3 days rest for that matter
no
you are wrong for a zillion reasons
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Please explain.
I’m just thinking down the road of the series. Not that I think it’s a great idea for Lincecum to start tomorrow for any other reason than I’d rather shove hot pokers in my eyes than watch Sanchez take the mound in a game 7 of the World Series
Why?
Sure, Sanchez has been shaky his last two starts. But, they were on the road, in hostile environments. Game 7 would be at home, he’d be rested, with the support of the fans and team behind him. What is to say that he wouldn’t go 7, strike out 13, and walk 1?
He’s one of the primary reasons we even made the playoffs, dammit. The dude was nails down the stretch, and had a brilliant start against Atlanta. Why are people so scared to see him in a Game 7, if that meant we had used Tim and Matt in the two prior games? Would you honestly rather see Zito?
i think, for me, im scared to see him in Game 7 for this reason: as the stakes of each start have gotten higher (ie, team moves to next level) the quality of his starts has diminished.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
correlation != causation
especially when your sample is 4
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SSS is very relevant at times
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm worried about Lincecum in his next big game
He’s gotten worse in every start.
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I’d have zito pitch game 5 & 7. He’s rested!
by iamwhatiam on Oct 31, 2010 7:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sanchez in a game seven at HOME
with MadBum warming up as soon as JSanch walks somebody, and Timmy on two days rest (on his side day).
If the Giants score early, Sanchez can/should relax and get at least five good innings.
But, hopefully, we finish this earlier.
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Timmy needs the rest. The extra few mph on his fastball that came back at the end of the
season and in the first Atlanta game have disappeared in the NLCS and the WS. It pains me when Timmy throws changeup after changeup because he is afraid of the fastball being hammered.
Don't like this one bit.
Tomorrow it’s their worst starter, why waste our best pitcher on that?
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Cuz we'd have a great chance to be up 3-1 in the World Series.
Why not take that chance? If it doesn’t work out, we still have Lincecum for Game 7.
Because pitchers generally pitch a lot worse on 3 days rest? And Lincecum has hardly been lights out to begin with lately?
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and
it ends up with everyone on short rest, if you are not pitching Bumgarner against Lee.. it’s the same thing the Texas people were thinking about yesterday.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
And Madbum doesn’t suck. Anyone hear Hank greenwald compare him to hubbell yesterday?
by iamwhatiam on Oct 31, 2010 8:01 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We have a great chance already with MadBum,
besides, the less rest a starter gets, the worse he usually pitches.
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Waaaaaayyyy too early for this panic move.
The Rangers s/b the team worried about tweaking their rotation.
I was thinking the same thing
although it does look like a panic move. Also, Lincecum can STILL go in Game 7 even if he pitches Monday.
If you’re managing for Game 7 when you’re up 2-1, you’ve already lost.
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I was thinking the same thing
although it does look like a panic move. Also, Lincecum can STILL go in Game 7 even if he pitches Monday.
I am interested by this sandwich double-post.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
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I understand why you think it might be a panic move.
I’m just saying that I’d have ZERO faith in Sanchez in a game 7 scenario after his last 2 starts. YES, He’s streaky… and he’s currently on a 2 game BAD streak. Nobody thinks that will be in his head if he took the mound on that stage?
BUT
tomorrow is game FOUR.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Not especially.
It’s at home. Fans behind him. Fairly rested arms in Madison/Tim in the bullpen just in case. He’s almost the primary reason we even made the playoffs. He starts Game 7, and we’d better be fucking happy to have such a good third starter. We’re up 2 games to 1 in the World Fucking Series, dammit.
Also, with that fact in mind, we’ve played three games. There’s three more games to play before we even need to consider game 7. You don’t look 4 games down the road at something that may not happen, as a manager, or you might just self-fulfill that fact.
GAH I HATE THIS
EVERY player is “streaky”
The thing about streaks, is that they end suddenly and without warning. It’s just the goddamn gambler’s fallacy.
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The thing about Jonathan that concerns me
Is he’s probably very tired, I think it’s the inning jump that’s starting to wear him down.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
No way
On short rest? You kidding me?
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Fine...
Panic button or no panic button…
This is a 7 game series. And whether or not you agree with it, Raghetti just admitted tonight that Sanchez probably won’t start a game 7 and according to baggs it might be Mota.
Can we win before Game 7? Of course, and we all pray that we do. But if it had to come down to that game…
I’ve spent my entire life living and dying with this team… And I know all of you feel the same way, and have been there with me. But THIS could be our best shot. Nobody can sit here and tell me that Sanchez, with his 88mph current fastball, or Mota, would be an option u want on the mound for that game. That’s my reasoning… Right or wrong… We HAVE to win before game 7 if we don’t start Lincecum tomorrow. PERIOD.
Here’s the ball Timmy, get that shit done against their #4 pitcher. If we win, series OVER. God forbid Sanchez touches that ball again.
I think the Giants have to win before game 7
regardless of whether Timmy pitches today or Monday.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
If Lincecum Loses, pitch Cain on Monday,
So if we blow our two-game advantage, we should have a right-handed fly-ball pitcher facing Josh Hamilton with a short porch and a jet stream in RF in Arlington?
Pass.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Stick with Pat.
There was a time this postseason (early) where Freddy Sanchez was doing terrible as well. But he is one of our more reliable hitters right now.
Thank you.
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Dream panic lineup
Rowand CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff DH
Ross LF
Uribe 3B
Rent SS
Fontenot 3B
Ishikawa 1B
Nate RF
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Posey?
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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based on GDT panicking, he has to go too
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Yeah well,
Posey hasn’t been doing much on the offense anyway
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that's right
that’s why this is the ultimate panic lineup
if you can’t tell, I’m not serious
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by kezargiants on Oct 30, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I have a question for those wanting to stick with Burrell in the lineup
How much longer do you wait for him to break out of his slump?
Another 0-4 with 3 K’s? Another 2 games of 0’fers? Another 3?
I understand that he is a better lifetime hitter than any of the other options but does that really make a difference right now?
Obviously he’s in a slump. Those who don’t believe in slumps, well what can I say other than “Do you actually watch baseball games or do you just look at statistics?”. You can go 0-4 and hit the ball hard and you can go 0-4 with 4 strikeouts. If it was isolated to a certain pitcher, it could be a batter who doesn’t see a pitcher well, but when it happens over and over game after game and the batter who normally has a good eye is making half-swings…he’s in a slump.
Oh hey it's the "do you actually watch baseball NERDS" post
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Well when someone tells me there isn't such things as slumps or hot streaks and tries
to use statistics to support it, then yeah, I stand by this comment.
Well, of course there are slumps and hot streaks
the thing about them though is that they tend to end suddenly.
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Everyone has slumps and hot streaks
Players play better when playing every day, not in platoons, random games, etc.
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Slumps and streaks:
Spend some time playing with a penny. Toss it up in the air and see which side lands up. Do that a lot. An awful lot. Think about the results you get. Then decide if coins have “slumps” and “streaks”, and how and when and why they start and end.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
EXCEPT FOR HAVE AN OPS OF OVER 950 IN THE NLDS
THAT DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE HE WAS HOT THEN AND NOW HES COLD AND IF HES COLD THAT MEANS HEL;L STAY COLD FORVER!!!!
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HE CANT HIT IN AL PARKS BENCH HIM UNTIL GAME 6
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
When your alternatives are Aaron Rowand and Nate Schierholtz, then yes, you should continue to start Pat Burrell even as he slumps.
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I understand the point, I really do
and I have also seen how badly these two options can perform as well, it is just that right now Burrell is looking terrible and I’d rather try another option as it doesn’t seem like it could be any worse and at least you get some better defense in the outfield.
I’d rather try another option as it doesn’t seem like it could be any worse
Pretty sure this is the definition of a panic move.
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This is my issue. Benching Burrell for two players who are obviously markedly worse than him is a panic move, because there’s no real logic behind it, you’re basically just grasping at straws and hoping that you get lucky or catch lightning in a bottle or whatever.
Pat Burrell is our second best hitter. You can’t bench your second best hitter in the World Series, especially not for one of two guys who suck as much as Rowand and Schierholtz do. And defense hasn’t been the problem for the Giants so far, offense has been.
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I agree
If there were someone better to choose from, I think sitting for a day might not be a horrible idea. But then again if there were someone better than him, he already would be sitting.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to watch him play
every game of this series.
why? Cause he’s the best option they have at that position. And it isn’t even close.
If you can’t tell that Pat Burrell is the best option, then you might be the one that doesn’t watch baseball, nerd
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oh man, bad idea. Your going to get blasted
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I don't mind
It was my fault for the stupid, “Do you actually watch baseball” comment. But I really don’t get those that argue there isn’t such a thing as slumps or hot streaks based on stats.
there are "streaks" and "slumps"
However, what is proven is that these are not predictive in what is going to happen next.
It’s not even that it isn’t proven that streaks are or are not predictive. THEY ARE NOT PREDICTIVE.
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I think the point is not that slumps and hot streaks don’t exist (though some people like MGL might say that), but rather that there’s really no way of knowing when a player is going to come out of it or go into one. And so it makes a lot more sense to look at the big picture than overreact to a small sample size.
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they exist
but you can really only tell once you are in/out of one.
just cause someone has gone 0-12 doesn’t tell you what he’ll do tomorrow.
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by Gobroks on Oct 30, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look I am too
but I don’t want to ride out the season with the 4th or 5th hitter in the lineup going 0’fer every game without putting any balls in play just in the hopes that Burrell will come out of it.
It it was even 3 or 4 games it wouldn’t even be so bad. It has been 8 games and he looks like he’s getting worse instead of better.
You would feel better putting in one of two guys who hit for a sub-.700 OPS this season and letting them go oh-fer?
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No, both of these alternatives have positive thoughts right now about their
times at bat in the series. I’m hoping you catch lightening with one of these guys like they did with Ross.
I do know two things, there are not very many positive thoughts in Burrell’s head right now at the plate and second either of the options give you better defense.
Pat Burrell was worth 2.7 WAR for the Giants this season. The Giants won the division by a 2-game margin.
I’d say that’s a lot of help in getting to be up 2-1 in the postseason.
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err, up 2-1 in the World Series.
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I agree
I was just thinking of the World Series
I don’t dislike Burrell. The Giants would not be here without him. The same could be said for Zito but yet everyone is fine with him not even being on the playoff roster (I’m not saying he should be…I’m just sayin’).
You don't know they would go 0'fer
much like I don’t know that Pat won’t tear it up tomorrow.
I do know that Burrell has zero confidence right now and the mental state of hitter is quite important.
Whoa, you can read minds now?
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Good point
I’m projecting what I know from playing and from talking baseball with players for many years on what they are thinking but everyone is different.
I am rooting hard for him and I hope he does come out of it as this is the best result for the Giants.
Striking out eight times in nine at bats tends to erode confidence.
Saying Burrell lacks confidence “right now” is a statement of fact, not a claim for mind-reading.
I don't think you can be a succesful ML player and think like that.
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no, it's a claim of mind reading
“If I were Burrell, my confidence would be shot” is a statement of fact. “Burrell lacks confidence right now” if Burrell comes out and says “I have no confidence right now” would be a statement of fact. Claiming to know a player’s state of mind based off what you think he’s thinking is bullshit.
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The statement was something you might hear on any post-game show.
General and harmless.
but still stupid
and I will call out stupid comments when I see them.
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LOL
Epically wrong statement is epically wrong.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You were correct for the first two lines
And then you just fell off a cliff.
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Agreed
I’m projecting. I don’t know this at all.
Your statement was a general one and hardly a reach.
Don’t see why you are being attacked here.
because it's stupid
if there’s one group of people who aren’t able to put bad stretches of performance behind them, it’s professional baseball players, as clearly evidenced by Willie Mays, who went 1 for his first 26, before quietly disappearing from the face of the earth.
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This is hardly the first rough stretch of Pat Burrell’s career. He played in a hostile environment for years in Philly, where even when he was going well, he often got booed for striking out too much. To say that he has no confidence right now is projection of the highest order .
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However, I do believe it to be the case.
I don’t know for sure that he has bad thoughts, but then again no one else knows for sure that he doesn’t.
I understand baseball players have to be able to not let failure bother them. I do see a difference, however, going 0 for 12 with 8 balls put into play and some of them hit hard versus going 0 for 12 with 8 strikeouts and only 1 weak ground out to third.
Finally, if Burrell really is a player who can put most distractions out of his head when he goes to the plate, it is interesting that he himself admitted having trouble with the DH role.
Freddy Sanchez: contact hitter. Pat Burrell: power hitter.
You couldn’t find two more unlike types of batters.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
All the more reason.
Pat strikes out 3 times then runs into one and suddenly he’s 1-4 with a hr.
You show more patience with veteran power hitters like Burrell.
"how much longer will you wait?"
The rest of the series. Play your best players. Always.
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But we really haven’t done that so for in the playoffs.
/not advocating drastic lineup changes
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how have we not?
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You could argue that
Pablo > Renteria, I suppose.
About only case you can honestly make for the lineup management in the playoffs.
i guess you could
but it’s not clear cut by any stretch
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no
he’s just not very good
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Fontenot
A perfectly serviceable hitter against righties, with no power to speak of, and only adept at one defensive position.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t one of those pitches that Moreland almost got out on a split?
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 30, 2010 7:28 PM PDT reply actions
UGH, just saw this comment
Pablo’s "upside" shows up as frequently as Haley’s comet.
HE IS IN HIS SECOND FULL YEAR OF BASEBALL AND HE HIT .330 LAST YEAR.
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He has a career .305 / .356 / .484 line.
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1403 MLB PA, .303/.342/.445 in 1899 minor-league PA that were almost all young for his level. .350/.450 is almost certainly what you’re going to see from him going forward with adequate 3B defense, a position that normally gives you .325/.420. He’s not Mike Schmidt, but he’s good.
other than the double – he’s look lost on the big stage.
personally, I’d like Huff at DH, Ishi at 1B – and Pablo coming off the bench, where he’s had success.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo coming off the bench, where he’s had success.
Why do people keep ignoring the success he has had AS A FULL TIME STARTER?
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you mean last year, yes?
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s look lost for most of the 2010 season regardless of his rookie year and his ML career.
which is why he’s lost his starting job in the post season.
not much evidence tonight that he deserves it back (in the PS)
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
PABLO SANDOVAL CAREER
.305/.356/.484 OPS .839
THIS INCLUDES 2010
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2010 Regular : .268/.323/.409/.732
2010 Post Season: .214/.313/.286/.598
Dude is in serious regression.
And those post-season stats do not include today:
0-3 double play and an ugly K
Those great career numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, IMO – he’s struggled all year and looked lost tonight.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
2010 Regular : .268/.323/.409/.732
This is still a productive, average major league player
2010 Post Season: .214/.313/.286/.598
This is SSS theater at it’s best.
Those great career numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, IMO – he’s struggled all year and looked lost tonight.
It’s his second full season, just as those first year and a half should be taken with that salt, so too should this previous year. We do not know who the real Pablo is.
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I think there's reason to be concerned about Sandoval,
but it’s not his stats — bad 2nd season, it happens — it’s his weight. If he doesn’t lose weight, he will soon become a poor 3Bman and his hitting is likely to suffer as well. He’ll never have one kind of plate discipline so he’d better learn the other kind.
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Personal Problems too.
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It’s his second full season, just as those first year and a half should be taken with that salt, so too should this previous year. We do not know who the real Pablo is.
I agree. But if “we don’t know who he is” I’m not seeing much of a reason to try to figure it out on the biggest stage in sport the World Series.
And while Ishi doesn’t have the sexy career numbers that Pablo does, he does have a steady glove at 1st and has had good ABs of late. Which is why I’d like to see him at 1st and Huff at DH
and if the situation is right – see if Panda can rip a double as a PH…
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Steady glove at 1st won't get you far.
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Solid at bats, taking a walk, productive outs, and getting a hold of one will though.
I’ll take Ishi.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not so solid for a guy stuck at 1st.
I mean, I like the guy, but, I don’t think I’d want him to start tomorrow.
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Fair enough.
I understand both sides of the argument and the numbers. I’ve just liked Ishi’s at bats much more down the stretch than Pablo’s.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, Pablo reverts back to his roots too easily.
But, the results aren’t eye popping enough that I’d bench him in favor of Ishi.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
He’s been benched this entire post-season for the most part though. Tonight was an experiment to see if he had good at bats.
And, sadly, he did not.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
And who gets on a lineup for his productive out making abilities?
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huh?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait, never mind. I read this out of context. Carry on.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m advocating benching Pablo for his productive double-out making abilities.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
double plays are complex relationships. It’s not solely his fault as the rest of his team is also quite slow to make it to 2nd base.
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Travis Ishikawa 2010
.266/.320/.392 OPS .712
Pablo Sandoval
.268/.323/.409 OPS .732
Pablo has been the better hitter THIS SEASON.
Also Pablo has the edge in career numbers.
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Your numbers are correct.
However, Pablo looks lost and I hope we don’t see him (sans a PH role) in Game 4
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to see that, too.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno how to look that up
If anyone would like to help that would be great.
But I wonder if that would mean anything. GIDP involves a large portion of luck with having a runner on base.
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For 2010
Runner on 1st, less than 2 out
Sandoval 137 PA, 26 GDP, 6 BB, 52 TB
Ishikawa 33 PA, 3 GDP, 0 BB, 9 TB
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So what does this show?
Panda GIDP every 5.2ish PAs he had the opportunity
Ishi every 11 PAs.
However the disparity between PA #s and SSS really does not have these mean much.
I really don’t know what to make of this, anyone else with insight?
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Obsessive Giants Compulsive would be happy to tell you it proves that Ishikawa will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
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sharksrog will somehow make it mean that Tim Lincecum is better than Matt Cain.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Hey, I like him.
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I said with "insight"
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"Why do people keep ignoring the success he has had AS A FULL TIME STARTER?"
You are obviously unfamiliar with the Ten Rules For a Satisfying Life, which include (at #6, I believe) “Never, ever waste the breath to ask any question for which even one possible answer is Because they’re very, very stupid.”
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oh hey, I replied in the other thread re: Huff
I think the thread died somewhere, but we should definitely continue the conversation.
Nevermind. you already replied to mine, but I think you missed the point.
I guess I’ll go reply in the other thread.
he just came off the bench today, no success
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s different…DH vs. PH
ask Burrell.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
does Pat even have a PH history of any significance?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
not really – I was clumsily trying to make the point that being the DH is a role unto itself, not simply coming off the bench.
syntax fail on my part.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I love him like a brother.
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Just win one of the next two and leave it in the hands of Matt Cain in Game 6. That is all.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Oct 30, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions
sounds good
but needs more panic.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Preferably
I want MadBum and Timmeh win it at TX to stick it to em, but I’ll take your version as well.
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by Badly Browned on Oct 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCKING THIS
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I wouldn't mind this.
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Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Serious
Matt Cain, game 6 AT HOME
Or win the next two. I am easy.
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TWSS
Buster Posey>
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Not nearly often enough
:(
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Halloween!
Buster Posey>
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Damn your logic!
I want to freak out!
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in game 6 if we can’t beat a pitcher who can only throw 2 pitches because of blisters then we deserve to lose.
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is that right? so he’ll only be thowing a fastball and change?
i did not know this
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't know that.
He could not start, he could throw only 2 pitches, he could be “totally good to go.”
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meaningful...
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Ah, “runs scored” as a measure of player confidence. That’s some outside-the-box thinking right there.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Entirely meaningful
Once you remember that it’s not played in a simulator. Some players just won’t get it done when it matters the most.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
Let’s use Nate who has never gotten it done. This bodes well for the upcoming games.
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Like Barry Lamar Bonds who couldn't get it done in the post-season until he could.
The tortuous thing is discovering if and when it will actually happen.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
"torturous"
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tortious?
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by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
And the Phillies won that WS.
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Hey, remember when Barry Bonds was a choker who couldn’t hit in the playoffs?
Oh, and then he hit .471 / .700 / 1.294 in the World Series.
This shit is so fucking stupid.
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Those stats might not also be that meaningful. He played his post season games for Pitt without steroids.
I like how everyone just uses steroids as an excuse for everything.
Most people who say this have no idea what kind of steroids they’re talking about, what they even do, and if it even has an effect on someone swinging a bat to hit a ball.
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Well some would say that steroids are more mental than physical
I don’t really know enough about them to have an opinion.
I am one of those.
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You could look it up.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
/sniff
//wipes tears away
Oh, man, that’s priceless.
Wait, what? You were serious?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
no runs scored
How is that useful information?
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The WS is just 3 games. The postseason has been 13 games. He hasn't been hitting.
Over 45 PA:
.158/.289/.316
At what point do you collect enough data points to say, his current true talent level has deviated from his season or career talent level?
I remember a rule of thumb for SSS was 60 PA. We’re at 45 now, and he’s dismal. The farther your observed data is from the expected mean, the smaller the sample size you need in order to reject the null hypothesis.
I’m not one to make sudden moves, but this is definitely something to worry about. It feels pretty close to rejecting the null and concluding that Pat has somehow regressed this postseason.
his K-rate is almost double his career: .422 vs. .237
Over n=45, the probability of observing a k-rate that high from a simple binomial distribution would be: 0.0046.
In other words, <1% significance, and worth rejecting the null hypothesis that this is random statistical variation assuming his K-rate is a simple binomial.
Wwwwwwhhhhhhooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......
The Giants are up 2-1 in a best of 4 series. Anyone who thought this would be a sweep was delusional.
Win 1, just 1, game in Texas (tomorrow would be nice but Lee doesn’t terrify like the anticipation of Lee terrified before Game 1).
The Giants still have MadBum (a steely-eyed missile man this season), Lincecum & Cain (no qualifiers needed for those 2) still to throw. Texas has Tommy Hunter and 2 pitchers the Giants have already beaten.
Trust Bochy – he’s earned it. He’ll stick with Burrell & rightly so. He’ll probably sit Pablo but if he doesn’t it’s not because he’s stubbornly sticking with a veteran It’s because he thinks he knows something that the rest of us don’t. He won’t panic and start screwing with the rotation. If Game 7 comes around, Timmeh, MadBum and Co. will all be available and Bochy will have a quick hook, like always.
Calm. down.
Just. calm. down.
i agree. everyone is freaking out.
my only thing is i dont want pablo DH’ing, and if he does, he hits in the 9 hole. that way if he sucks, it doesnt hurt us, but if he gets on base, the top of the order comes up.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
was wondering why they threw Moreland inside
On the at bat that Moreland homered on, they had 2 outs and a 2-2 count, and I saw Posey slide inside and I was “oh oh”, because it seemed to me the guy was looking inside (from his first long foul ball). If he got a hit it wasn’t going to be a homerun. Oh well, so much for that. But it does make me nervous to think that we have Sanchez lined up for game 7. Seems like he is hitting the wall suddenly. We may see Lincecum on 2 days rest, if it gets to that (though I thikwe win in 6).
As for Pat, slide him down to the 6th spot, and let Rowand bat DH, Panda looks lost to me too.
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Slider that didn't slide much?
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Texas
Let me preface this comment: I am hammered right now so please don’t hold anything I say against me.
I went out to a bar to watch this game as a sort of pre-drinking thing before going out for Halloween. I get there before everyone else because I want to see the entire game. My friend (who doesn’t care about sports) and her boyfriend (who I’ve never met before but I quickly learn is a typical Texas asshole) get there just as Hamilton hits the HR to make it 4-0. First thing he says to me: “Looks like Texas is whipping ass just like they always do.”
Needless to say this was not a good start. I then proceed to sit through the rest of the game with both of them wondering why I can’t be happier and him explaining to me how this is so exciting for Texas—just like when the Astros made it in 2005, I’m not even joking.
And with that, I’m going to get even more blasted and try to enjoy Halloween like a normal person who doesn’t cheer for a team that’s broken their heart a million times.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
watching games in bars is the worst
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Texas fans looked pretty scared in the stands for such a confident bunch
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I couldn’t do it for a playoff game. I’ve refused all offers & have watched at home.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
we had to watch in Yosemite
and fortunately there were all Giants fans… and only one night of yahoos asking things like “is his nickname panda?”
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They were unrelentless.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Our lineup wasn't even that bad.
Why is everyone complaining about it? Lewis has been great this postseason and we walked Molina twice (and Franchy).
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goddam it I forgot that one
Burrell (!) also saved a double or triple from him that really would have opened it up.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as disgusting as walking Bengie twice though.
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3 BB 2 R so far, right?
and… a double? Goddam it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
that was shit. i couldnt believe it, esp with 2 outs then the next guy hit a 3 run homer
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dingers suck.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
getting around a leadoff double, then walking bengie with 2 outs and then the next guy hitting a dinger sucks.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The very few bright spots
1. The bullpen again
2. Juan Uribe looked like Brooks Robinson at third base
3. Cody Ross – not just the HR, but while Buck and McCarver were whacking each other off over how good Feliz looked, they forgot that Cody just missed taking him out the other way, and the two guys he struck out pretty much get struck out by everybody.
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the problem i had with Ross in the 9th, was that I just KNOW that if Pat had been PH for (which was very stupid of Bork to let him hit after that display he put on tonight) and say Ish had gotten on base… Ross’ HR would have found a way to go out. I just KNOW it, cause that’s what Ross does in the postseason.
Left side of IF is not a problem anymore, even though Rent has trouble catching balls hit right at him, he is still better than a Uribe/Pablo thing which would mean Pablo has to hit too. double negative that doesn’t equal a positive.
the Rangers bullpen sucks. period. if we can get hunter out by the 6/7th tomorrow, we’ve got a great shot. and bumgarner has crazy home/road splits
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That is some speculation there buddy
Panic being up 2-1, love it.
im not panicking.
wheres the panic in my post? where i said left side of IF isn’t a problem anymore? thats called confidence. where i said the rangers bullpen sucks? confidence. where i said if pat had been PH for and the PH got on base, i know the ball would have found its way out off Ross’ bat because it’s been magic for him this postseason? confidence.
might want to look up the words youre typing cause you obviously dont know what they mean.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat looked lost. But as always, when he looks worst, that’s exactly when he starts hitting HRs everywhere. Nothing could have been worse than today, but either way he has to play. Drop him in the order behind Huff, Posey, Ross.
Jonathan, really? did you really do that? Walked Bengie, Bengie fucking Molina, TWICE, on 9 pitches, the only strike wasn’t even a strike. That 3 run HR never should have happened.
Pablo- go back to the bench and stay there. GIDP (of course) and K on ball in dirt. nothing has changed.
Hope to see Ish DH’ing tomorrow, and everyone else in their same positions, with a different batting order that drops Pat to 6 or 7… or 8
Why would you DH Ishikawa? If you’re going to play Ishikawa, play him at first.
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the only reason I’m wouldnt DH Huff and put ish at 1st is that IMO Huff is comfortable where he’s at right now- no need to screw with that. besides…
Ish is a great PH- and what is a DH, essentially? a PH who hits 4 times a game.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff volunteered to DH
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Huff said he would be comfortable DHing.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
if he’s comfortable with it, then i wouldn’t have a problem with Ish at 1st and Huff DH’ing.
The players just need to be put in a position to succeed. And if Huff is comfy with it, then I got no problem. I wasn’t aware he had volunteered. I’ve been out of town for 3 days off the internet
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
....
I just.. I..what?
Ish is a great PH- and what is a DH, essentially? a PH who hits 4 times a game.
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What is this I don’t even
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Ishikawa as a PH: .767 OPS
Pat Burrell as a Giant: .872 OPS
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I never said take Pat out. He’s got to stay in. Just get dropped a few slots in the lineup, possibly
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You did, however, say that Travis Ishikawa should DH.
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I wasn’t aware Huff had volunteered to DH, and that he was comfortable doing it. been out of town a couple days w/o the internet.
Ish is a defensive upgrade, so if Ish wants to play and Huff DH’s, that’s totally fine. I just want them put in positions to succeed.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat Burrell is not comfortable on the bench
This is my counterargument.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
What? He made a great catch today and all the routine ones we have really asked of him.
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Maybe KTJ is talking about the Young ball in the 1st?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
He also made Sanchez throw more pitches when he didn’t get to one in the same inning as his great catch. Maybe Ross doesn’t get to it, but I think he does.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
That was a tough play for any outfielder.
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yeah Pat has to play, and DH is not in his confort zone, hence, he starts LF tomorrow. He didn’t screw up any plays today, that one shoestring catch had already bounced, he didn’t drop it. He kept it in front of him while trying to make a play on it.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations, you’ve just come up with the worst idea in human history. Ishikawa as DH!?!?!??
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who would you use? Pablo? no. Huff? he’s comfortable at first. Pat? then Nate has to hit
got a better idea that doesn’t involve moving Huff from his comfort zone?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Ishikawa at DH is the worst use of talent since Pedro Feliz was our opening day left fielder.
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Classifying Pedro Feliz as talent of any kind is a bit of a mistake.
Worst. Player. In. Baseball.
If you just use his D, then, that's a different story.
The whole package however = worst position player of the 2000s.
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Brian Bocock says "hi"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
12 career WAR. Feel pretty good about saying that there’s no way that was the worst of the 2000s.
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For someone to play each of the years in the decade, perhaps.
I was using Baseball Reference WAR (he only has 5.1 in his career).
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
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That goes to Neifi Perez.
Seriously, 2002: 585 PA, .236/.260/.303, 44 OPS+, -1.9 WAR
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Not just one year, I meant the decade as a whole.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Your answer is Juan Castro if we’re talking about 2000-2010
From 2000-2010: 2,352 PA, .614 OPS, -8.2 WAR
Next runner up is Jose Castillo — I’m serious — at -4.6 WAR from 2004-08.
LOL at the 2nd worst player in the past decade playing for the Giants.
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Thanks. I have slightly more respect for Feliz's career now.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Feliz wasn’t even the worst Giant this past decade.
Kevin Frandsen: -1.8 wins (2006-09)
Eugenio Velez: -1.3 wins (2007-10)
Emanuel Burris: -1.2 wins (2008-10)
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Frandsen :(
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Also, since I’m having fun. The top 20 list of best Giants (combined WAR) from this past decade.
Rk Player WAR/pos From To G
1 Barry Bonds 64.4 2000 2007 986
2 Jeff Kent 19.6 2000 2002 470
3 Ray Durham 13.8 2003 2008 734
4 Randy Winn 13.2 2005 2009 666
5 Rich Aurilia 9.7 2000 2009 858
6 J.T. Snow 6.6 2000 2008 727
7 Pablo Sandoval 6.5 2008 2010 346
8 Andres Torres 6.3 2009 2010 214
9 Aubrey Huff 5.9 2010 2010 157
10 Moises Alou 5.9 2005 2006 221
11 Ellis Burks 5.5 2000 2000 122
12 Omar Vizquel 5.5 2005 2008 542
13 Jose Cruz 5.3 2003 2003 158
14 Juan Uribe 5.3 2009 2010 270
15 Pedro Feliz 5.1 2000 2007 874
16 Fred Lewis 3.4 2006 2009 326
17 Reggie Sanders 3.2 2002 2002 140
18 Pat Burrell 3.0 2010 2010 96
19 Benito Santiago 3.0 2001 2003 367
20 Bobby Estalella 2.9 2000 2001 135
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Generated 10/30/2010.
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just position players?
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Rank Player WAR/pos From To Age 1 Barry Bonds 64.4 2000 2007 35-42 2 Matt Cain 20.9 2005 2010 20-25 3 Jeff Kent 19.6 2000 2002 32-34 4 Jason Schmidt 19.5 2001 2006 28-33 5 Tim Lincecum 18.7 2007 2010 23-26 6 Ray Durham 13.8 2003 2008 31-36 7 Randy Winn 13.2 2005 2009 31-35 8 Rich Aurilia 9.7 2000 2009 28-37 9 Noah Lowry 7.5 2003 2007 22-26 10 Robb Nen 7.3 2000 2002 30-32 11 Felix Rodriguez 6.7 2000 2004 27-31 12 J.T. Snow 6.6 2000 2008 32-40 13 Pablo Sandoval 6.5 2008 2010 21-23 14 Andres Torres 6.3 2009 2010 31-32 15 Russ Ortiz 6.2 2000 2007 26-33 16 Aubrey Huff 5.9 2010 2010 33-33 17 Moises Alou 5.9 2005 2006 38-39 18 Brian Wilson 5.7 2006 2010 24-28 19 Ellis Burks 5.5 2000 2000 35-35 20 Omar Vizquel 5.5 2005 2008 38-41
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Great Giants all.
I fucking hate the bile so many Giants fans spew towards Jeff Kent.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
MATT CAIN
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I was going to say it’s hard to believe Burks isn’t higher up that list, but he wasn’t a Giant for that long/
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LOWRYYYYYYYYYY
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Matt Cain <3
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
He's the coolest!
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Splendiferous even!
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Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Ortiz had to be pretty damn good
to be in a position to get that game ball.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
HUH?
Wait, Aubrey Huff has more WAR in one year than Will Clark and Matty had over 7 years?
Oh. Nvm. He said past decade.
Why post it then?
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
yeah this is just for the 00s
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
BOBBY ESTALELLA WAS TOTALLY BETTER THAN MATT CAIN
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
LOL FRED!
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL Omar just made it 8)
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
obligatory
Kim Batiste was -1.5 WAR for us. In 136 PA. That’s fucking impressive.
For his career, he was -4.3 in 684 PA. His best season: 0.0 WAR.
And people wonder why I’m obsessed with him.
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okay, I'm seriously wondering
How many players have ever been worse than Batiste in terms of WAR in an equivalent or smaller number of PA?
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XANTHAN PLEASE RUN YOUR COMPUTER ALGORITHMS IN SUPPORT OF MY IDLE CURIOSITY ABOUT OBSCURE PLAYERS FROM FIFTEEN YEARS AGO
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vr,
Xei
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t believe we almost made it through the entire playoffs without a Kim Batiste reference from jcb9.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I think I already had one in the LCS.
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lol I like how we're debating who the worst of the majors are
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I never get mad at how an out is made.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
so
By career WAR, who is the worst player of all time?
I bet this information is out there, but googling ‘worst war of all time’ is probably not going to work. :(
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It's funny.
To be the worst player, you would need to play a lot to effect your team’s chances negatively enough to rank down there with the worst.
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My first search turns up this guy
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dohened01.shtml
-5.9 career WAR
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lol barely sub 4 ERA
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Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
That’s the magic of the deadball era!
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think his ERA+ was like 94, though!
Peripherals must’ve been wretched.
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bb-ref WAR doesn’t use peripherals… he must have given up a ton of unearned runs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Aaaaand yes, he did.
353 career unearned runs allowed in 9 years. Ep-ic.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What is that I don’t even.
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in 1899 he had a 4.41 ERA
and a 6.72 RA.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Just 5.2 worse than Kimothy. A few more years and he would’ve had a shot at history!
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Here you go.
Rk Player WAR From To Age Tm 1 Bill Bergen -17.6 1901 1911 23-33 CIN-BRO 2 Doug Flynn -12.1 1975 1985 24-34 CIN-TOT-NYM-MON 3 Bob Buhl -11.5 1953 1967 24-38 MLN-TOT-CHC-PHI 4 Juan Castro -10.4 1995 2010 23-38 LAD-CIN-MIN-TOT 5 Kirtley Baker -9.5 1890 1899 21-30 PIT-BLN-WHS 6 John Coleman -9.5 1883 1890 20-27 PHI-TOT-PHA-PIT 7 Dan Meyer -9 1974 1985 21-32 DET-SEA-OAK 8 Crazy Schmit -8.2 1890 1901 24-35 PIT-BLN-TOT-CLV-BLA 9 Blondie Purcell -8 1879 1887 25-33 TOT-CIN-BUF-PHI-PHA-BAL 10 Jim Levey -8 1930 1933 23-26 SLB
Holy shit. Juan Castro is historically bad.
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Bill Bergen’s career OPS+ was 21.
He was a catcher.
Damn.
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Before reading the years
I thought Dan Meyer was referring to the ex A’s prospect
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
But the dude hit doubles
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Feliz was okay for a few years
Oh, wait, you meant Joe Castle. That dude was abysmal.
Neifi Perez, 2001-present : 0.3 WAR in 7 seasons
Pedro Feliz, 2001-present: 12 WAR in 10 seasons
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Uh, he was not the worst player in baseball back when he was the Giants opening day LF.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes
I would use Pablo.
Yes,
I would use Huff, though I would prefer not to, for reasons previously mentioned.
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I wasn’t aware Huff had volunteered to DH and he was confortable with that, so if Ish plays the field and Huff DH’s, that’s fine. it’s a defensive upgrade.
i just don’t see pablo doing anything to benefit the team. Lewis settled down after his DP early in the game. and that K in the ball bouncing in the dirt? no thanks. we will get better ABs from Ish playing, and that is what it’s all about. Good ABs.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Good ABs would be nice.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hunter’s splits this year have him getting SLGd at the same rate lefty or righty, but the OBP for lefties is about 50 points higher, with 40 points of that coming from AVG.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
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Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
BABIP-induced? no wait, then it wouldn’t be for R/L splits…
so we should have a LH DH tomorrow. That happens if Ish plays 1st, and Huff DHs, or the other way around. Pablo had his chance. blew it with shitty ABs.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Congratulations, you’ve just come up with the worst idea in human history. Ishikawa as DH!?!?!??
Mao’s Great Leap Forward?
Not extending the Maginot Line to the sea?
Un-sliced bread?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I will eat the spleen of the next person to demand Burrell gets benched.
EVEN IF YOU’RE FUCKING RIGHT WE’VE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION TWENTY TIMES IN TEN MINUTES.
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I’m glad I don’t have mod powers.
I’d already have banned everyone but you, jprony and a handful of others, just for stupidity.
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Yeah,
congratulations on your restraint.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
it's not restraint
it’s that I don’t have those powers.
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lol. I don’t think he should be benched… but maybe dropped in the order? he usually gets red hot when all hope looks lost.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
rxmeister'd?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
giant4life83, it means to…eh, I’ll just show you.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Waiting attentively…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
But Nick Johnson would be a decent offseason pick up
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
What else is there after that game?
It’s either “pat must be benched” or “panda must be benched” or “sanchez should be skipped for game seven”.
WE’RE ENTITLED TO A LITTLE PANIC.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Except, and not to single out this post by Todd,
THIS IS NOT AUGUST. THIS IS THE 5th GAME OF THE WORLD SERIES.
4th Game
Otherwise, yes.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrow is Game 4
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Far from panicked
And I think that having seen something over 150,000 major league at bats just maybe gives me the right to say that a guy isn’t going well at all, his approach is bad, he’s overswinging, and he needs a game on the bench.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
WATCH THE GAME, NERBS
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I did but my eyes were closed
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
his approach is bad, he’s overswinging
That doesn’t sound like Aaron Rowand and Nate Schierholtz at all!
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And I think it doesn't.
There. Now that’s settled, right?
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i dont think he should be benched. i said he had a shit game, and streaky pat usually gets hot fast after he’s been slumping for awhile
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Panda...
like him a lot, but he may not even make the team in spring training, te rate he is going…
"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
Dumping a pre-arb player who hit .330 a year ago is a great idea.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well I imagine he(?) means sending Pablo to AAA
but yeah, he’s the best 3B option for 2011
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
well, Uribe would be the best 3B option if we snagged a slick JD Drew type SS.
at this rate, Pablo shouldn’t be considered a lineup or positional anchor for 2011. Play it like he won’t ever return, and if he does, we just got an extra power hitter for free.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribe's a FA
Also I like your SS suggestion, just go for JD’s younger brother
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Towers wouldn’t trade steve drew for anything less than one of our starters.
Uribe will be resigned, playoff hero, count on it.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I might do Drew for Dirty
I’d have to think about it for a while.
And I think Uribe signs elsewhere
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
My gut instinct is no on that one.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
They're both cost controlled for 2 more years
…I think I would
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Now, educated by facts, I agree.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure last year was Drew's 1st arb year
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Dirty way outperformed his FIP stats in 2010
If you’re going to trade Sanchez, he’s pretty much at peak value this offseason. FIP basically says he’s been the same pitcher for the last 3 years. He just got extraordinarily lucky this year.
That being said, he’s still a good #3 innings eater, and under Giant control. $5-6mm for that isn’t bad. I guess it depends on what you’d get in return.
I’d do Drew for Dirty. We’d still have Timmy, Cain, Bum, Zito. Then we’d need to pick up a decent 5th starter. When’s Wheeler ready?
2013 at the very earliest.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
You should be the GM.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Of the Pirates. Or maybe Royals.
This sounds like their train of thought.
Willie McCovey (the man who this site is named after) would have been gone.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I need smarter people to tell me what I'm missing
Ishikawa in for Burrell. Move Huff to left. Just for a game against a righty starter. The break seems to have done wonder for Torres.
All that being said, I think keeping Burrell in is what should happen probably (mostly because of the defensive shift that Huff would be forced to make), but I don’t think the above should be discounted.
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
Because Ishikawa is a much worse bat than Burrell, and Huff hasn’t played LF since the Bush administration.
Thing C
Huff played LF this year
not that I am advocating that.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t the real problem that the combination of 3, 4 and 5 hitters aren’t doin’ diddily? Huff, Burrell, and Posey have not exactly been en fuego lately. If just one of them would go on a tear it wouldn’t seem so bad
I said I'm not advocating
I was just correcting Mark.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
and yet, we’ve found a way to score 22 runs in the first 3 games.
no sarcasm, serious. i dont know how that happens
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
highly inconsistent, streaky team overall. most runs in MLB in July, then least in MLB in Sept (or next to last).
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The short answer is that Burrell hit better (.351 wOBA) in a starting role than Ishikawa did (.311 wOBA) as a bench player.
Which is a bad idea, because you lose runs.
Then the rest of the debate is over your usual “intangibles”, “slump-busting-techniques”, etc. It’s basically your group of people armed with quantitative, provable knowledge trying to convince those who bring out unprovable hypotheses as the bedrock of their arguments, and unless the latter group is receptive to new ideas, those arguments never go well.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
that was hawt
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I, for one, think it’s time to bench Pat Burrell and see what Jose Guillen can do at the plate.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
by groug on Oct 30, 2010 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
/jcb9 eats your spleen
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NOM NOM NOM FAVA BEANS
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I would bring Guillen back just to piss off Selig
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Well,
we have already heard about what he does in the locker room or with the help of physicians.
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fwiw
I enjoyed the game despite the loss, but I’m the kind of despicable fuckwad who’d almost rather see a battle of a game over a blow-out in favor of my favorite team. although probably the only reason I can say that is because it’s game 3 with the Giants still up 2-1.
I really, really wouldn’t take Burrell out tomorrow on the basis of tonight. but I think Pablo is a lot iffier right now and there’s a longer basis at this point for switching out the DH spot.
by human rain delay on Oct 30, 2010 7:38 PM PDT reply actions
Holy fuck
The overreaction here. Keep the lineup the same.. Lewis is a good pitcher. Hunter is not. No need to panic.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
If Hunter shuts the Giants down tomorrow, feel free to panic though.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The only panic is if we lose game 6
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by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I'm already panicking, but I don't want everyone else to.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Hunter shutting us down tomorrow would be the most Giants thing ever.
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by Kitspool on Oct 30, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
His K/BB ratio this postseason is 12/0 (according to the Fox graphic). He’s due for a good start. Of course it’ll be against us.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
this is the kind of panic I came here for
I just hope they haven’t been sitting around thinking “ha that Game 4 guy stinks we’ll kill him”
Also let’s try to be ahead by the end of the 8th.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
My game 4 ticket fell through. I just grabbed an OF seat on stubhubh for $450. I probably overpaid but /shrugs/
A solo seat
/matt cain alone at a table pic
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i heard they didnt even sell out in texas. could be wrong though
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you're wrong
Kruk said they were like 3000 over capacity (SRO)
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re sold out. I just checked so I wouldn’t have to kick myself.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
ok. Buck and McCarver were already certified, but now are decorated idiots for saying they were under capacity.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
did they say that?
Maybe they were distracted by Molina’s ballet dancer feet.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Tix up to $660 on stoobhoob
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions
I would bench Burrell for him in a second
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't.
He’s an elder now. I don’t want to see fastballs thrown near my elders!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Willie could duck a pitch in his sleep
always has, always will.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
also
I think it’s fantastic to have a Willie pic in this thread. That is always cheering/reassuring.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I just bought his book before!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
that is a fantastic book
and there are a lot of mind-boggling stories. I want to find some film of him crashing catchers.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
and re: pitching
I’m not one to hit the panic button on one bad performance by one otherwise solid player, but Sanchez’s start in game 6 of NLCS had me concerned about tonight. there’s postseason jitters, and then there’s the kind of actual meltdown that leaves you unconvinced that someone can reliably manage his own emotions in a pressure cooker situation, and his performance was the latter. he held himself together better tonight after that 3-run homer but my view of his pitching was colored the whole way through by the perception that he just couldn’t quite shake off the nerves. and obviously the Giants felt similar, because they had the bullpen active by the third inning.
on the opposite end of the spectrum was Feliz as closer for the Rangers. kid stitched it up like a veteran surgeon, he seemed that coolheaded. made me think of MadBum. admittedly, though, he had a pretty comfortable buffer.
by human rain delay on Oct 30, 2010 7:40 PM PDT reply actions
I really wanted Sanchez
out before he pitched to Hamilton. That one he served up was horrible
Ah the good old days of MCC
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you forgo the kenneth cole cologne
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not a joint Navin
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Burrell? Sandoval?
I think nether of them should be starting tomorrow. Either put Huff in Left and Ishi at first or put Schierholtz in Right and move Ross to left.
I hope they play tomorrow and kick ass, just to piss you off.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I would accept this.
And admit my wrongness.
PROVE ME WRONG, GUYS
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
If only we kept John Bowker, then we'd be complaining about something else.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Or the Problem.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Don't know what to believe
I’m torn between my earned belief that this team can rebound from this and my long conditioned belief that utter doom is imminent.
Screw it. What I believe doesn’t matter. Just stop losing, you fuckers.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 30, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
My Crazy Idea ...
I tend to think the liklihood of beating Lee twice is slim, even with Lincecum going against him. Thus, what if Sanchez was hurt, and Zito could come onto the roster and pitch Game 5. So what if we lose because then we’ve got Lincecum and Cain going for games 6 & 7.
The possibility of scoring 4 off of Timmy is slim, too.
The possibility of losing 3 of the next 4 is slim, as well.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That was my response to Mr. Merope when he said Nate would get the start tomorrow. “Yeah, and Sanchez will develop some mysterious injury only to be replaced on the roster by Zito.”
/Mike Andrews'd
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
This is crazy
so if we lose the Lee game, and Lincecum loses a game 2-1 in game six, we just conceded the world series without having Matt Cain pitch a second game?
How about no.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
If Bummie pitches tomorrow that puts Timmy on Monday… Cain on Wednesday and Sanchez on Thursday for a Game 7. I don’t know how I’d feel about a young pitcher going on short rest.
If we win tomorrow
Bullpen game against Lee in Game 5
Matt for Game 6
Timmeh for Game 7
No, I’m not entirely serious. But Sanchez must not throw another pitch that matters in 2010.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know how i feel about it if it gets to 7 games. probably feeling shitty anyways, since we had a 2-0 lead at one point.
so if it comes to that, throw out sanchez to pitch… wouldnt make a difference to me. if it goes 7, we’ve already lost it.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It ain't over until the skinny kid smokes
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
he’ll smoke in Game 5. won’t be long now
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but this time, he’s got a christmas tree wrapped up in that rolling paper
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions
just because it would become legal in CA doesn’t necessarily mean that Timmeh can smoke during the baseball season. He will still be held to MLB drug testing.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions
/shift-A
That game was meh, but I’m over it.
And apparently, whenever Bochy throws out a good looking lineup, it fails.
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 30, 2010 7:45 PM PDT reply actions
Hear, hear. Very sensible.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is everyone freaking out so much?
We lost a game. We’ve lost games in every series and before that we lost 70. This isn’t a big deal. It’s not like we were exposed or anything. We just lost a game where the difference was a stupid walk.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:45 PM PDT reply actions
I'm nervous because
I believe that we are at a disadvantage in their park. We do not have the firepower and Pablo is a fat dud!
Pablo is definitely the reason the Giants lost this game.
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
he walked Bengie!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
twice!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Too many errors at 3b!!
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Renteria totally would have homered if he’d come up in the second.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
that would have been the veteran move for sure
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
We have a much bigger advantage at our park than they do in theirs. Anything else?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This
that Kinsler off-the-top-of-the-wall-non-HR in Game 2 is proof.
Bandboxes are bandboxes. TEX stadium seems smaller than CBP. Torres’ HR was rediculously cheated.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
We matched them HR for HR.
The walks hurt.
The Giants have plenty of firepower…and the edge on the mound and in the dugout.
Yes...and yes.
I told someone that the Giants could lose a game in Texas, but I didn’t want it to be the first game. If MadBum went out and didn’t pitch well it would be ok because the Giants would have a great lead. But now the pressure is magnified. I just hope the kid can handle it. If not, it’s 2-2 and we’re facing Lee in their ballpark.
That’s why tonight hurts.
Anyone else eat too much candy tonight? I think I’ve eaten 4,000 bottle caps already.
Ask me about my blog.
Fun sized snickers. There will be none left for the kids
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
makes sense…a computer would eat metal
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
since I'm not giving out whiskey
no
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Holy shit, you just reminded me that we bought a pie and forgot about it in the excitement of the game!
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Sustained.
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Correct
Pie kicks the crap out of cake. Go to a party where there’s cake. At the end of the night, there will be little plates of half eaten cake out and about. That same party with pie? It gets eaten. Case closed.
STOP THE VIOLENCE!
True story: I went to the clincher in Philly. Before the game, as a way to unify to positivity of the McCoven behind me as I walked in to the lions’ den, I had a piece of cheesecake. Because both sides of the aisle can agree on cheesecake.
Also, it’s a pie.
Also also, pie >>> cake.
Science.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
GIMME
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE A CHEERWINE BOTTLECAP ?
we really need these
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
very odd
Every time I have a disagreement with jponry I get a warning on sbnation.
abuse of power!! you should strike
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
oh geez
we never use foul language on this site….. Ever…
Not in relation to someone's mom
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
oh...
but you can abuse giants with “fuck you pablo” all thread long
I get it know
Good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
lol
Giving someone attitude because they commented on a post that you made on a messegeboard.
Welcome to the Internet, my friend.
by Uncle Russel on Oct 31, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
DANGER, DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Why?
Can’t I disagree with the way the site is run? Is that a bad thing?
Dude, you can. We already know you are unhappy but it’s not like he’s telling you to leave or get banned. You made your point and we all see it! There has to be a time where people have to move on you know?
*she
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you lost your mind?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You gotta calm down.
I was banned from a site that I liked for a year. I didn’t complain at all. You got warned. Just respect the decision of the Mods and move on. You have a right to speak, but, that doesn’t mean that we all should see everything that you have to say (my Virgin Eyes can’t take much more).
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
You’ve just responded four times to a one word comment that was made 40 minutes ago
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
seriously jponry
what’s my real crime here tonight?
You didn’t commit a crime. You got a warning. It’s really not the end of the world. All I did was ask you to disagree with people more politely.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You injected yourself into a conversation in which you weren't iinvited.
We’re all big boys. We can handle the insults. Your Internet heroism is duly noted, though.
what?
this is a public forum. No one has to be invited into a conversation to be a part of it. That’s kind of the point.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
That's fine, but stop standing on my foot.
Geez.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I DISAGREE
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I have no problem with that
but as a moderator he shouldn’t suppress my speech.
You realize that the applicability of the First Amendment to baseball nerd blogs has only occasionally been established in case law, right?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Talking to him or me, because I know from first hand experience.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I realize this completely
but i can’t stand sites that moderate speech
yes, 1st amendment doesn’t protect this…..
Try speaking nicer 8)
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I was referring to the joke that started this mess.
Also, if you speak less crude, maybe you won’t get in trouble.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Are you really going to make yourself out to be a martyr over a YOUR MOM JOKE?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Dude
you’ve spent the last hour fighting it.
I have no clue what this comment means.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The only plausible explanation I can come up with is that you’re fighting poopinator becoming a martyr by not banning poopinator.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
ahh… i love walking into convos 5 min late. you just hear all the mad yelling
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi.
My name is dregarx.
I like sites that moderate speech, and I’m an American.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Maybe you’d be happier with 22gigantes. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
What's it like on there?
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Kinda boring.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But really, really, really self-important.
Sort of like poopinator in this conversation.
TWO GREAT TASTES THAT TASTE GREAT TOGETHER.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
here's a simple solution
if you don’t like it, hit the red X and leave, it is quite simple
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
I don't think you understand the 1st Ammendment and the job of a Moderator.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
lol state action requirement
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
lol what?
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
i.e the 1st am applies to government actions
not jporny’s.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I replied to fracon's question
unless s/he was kidding.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, are you still here? I don’t hope you get banned, I just hope you go away.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
you implied your right to speech with "[s]he shouldn’t suppress my speech"
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
by the way
“but as a moderator he shouldn’t suppress my speech.”
I don’t see any rights there. no implications either.
Well that’s how it reads. I’m sorry that we can’t get into the head of a person we have never met before.
Thing C
interpretation of my words
defines my words….
because i can’t read your mind, my interpretation must stand.
you’re a well reasoned man. markdash
You know, if I hate a website and everyone who uses it, I usually leave.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
that's what I did
but I just can’t quit you guys.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Who have i shown hate for other than jponry?
and even then, I don’t hate him.
Seriously, jponry is not a him.
Get her sex right!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
This
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
oh come on
I was hoping this one would get missed.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
where did isay i hated this site?
reading comprehension problems?
Evidently, but not jcb9's...
i can’t stand sites that moderate speech
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
tell you what: I'll rephrase to try to help you out here
“If I was annoyed enough at a website to complain about it non-stop for hours on end about stupid bullshit, I’d probably just leave instead.”
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
The job of a moderator, at least on this site, is to eliminate comments that are inappropriate, dole out warnings for out of line behavior and ban repeat offenders. If you don’t like that, you really don’t have to post here.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Is this in the charter?
or did you just make this up?
Cuz I’m pretty sure it’s the later. LOL
What, pray tell, do you think the job of a moderator is?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Really?
You’ve spent a lot of time trying to knock down opposing opinions. For what? One comment you didn’t agree with?
as a moderator, she
And from what I’ve heard about this speech, I’m perfectly fine with being suppressed.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Are you seriously going to turn this into a free speech issue?
Your comment crossed the line of appropriateness. Deal with it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I wonder if it crosses the line even as a joke, because if not, there is more work to be done…
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The First Amendment doesn't guarantee you
the right to yell “FUCK!!!!” next to a family at a restaurant. People don’t really get the First Amendment, which is sad because it’s, like, the very first one.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That’s the one about not taking my guns, right?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Somewhere there probably.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Especially in Tay-ecks-ass.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
No, silly,
the 5-and-a-halfth amendment repealed that one.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Me neither. I’ve spent a long 2 months cultivating those.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
waste of time
just get some mechanical ones like Doc Ock.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Both.
Nothing like a centrifuge to get ’em going.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
They can say it, but there are consequences and that doesn't mean that they have to be heard saying it.
Loopholes ftw!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I never called this a 1st amendment issue
You’re the king of strawmen….
You don’t even know what a strawman is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
lol I don't even know and I've been here since Spring.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Hint:
It has nothing to do with McC
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
And
I did not mention the first amendment in my comment. Forgive me for thinking “a moderator should not suppress my speech” is the same thing as “I should have free speech”.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You know
if you were to ban him, I do not think anyone here would ever consider him a martyr.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
whoa, mrsjcb
Who cares what he would think though, he would be banned.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
And the "whoa, mrsjcb" was my weird way of saying Hi, I am surprised to see you.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Nah
My first gathering was this season. I could never make one of the 2009 ones.
Which is kinda dumb because I was living in Tracy at the time.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Hey, yeah. I met you! Your husband bought me dinner. And scout was there too, hes just confused.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If anything that it would be a red herring.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
like communism.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
A strawman is claiming another argument
which was never made, and attacking it.
When did I claim 1st amendment rights? Hmmmm, That’s right…never.
I agree with a blog’s right to moderate speech. I have a problem with moderators who go apeshit on their posters though.
Ah, look, I think I taught poopie a vocabulary word!
It would be a proud moment for me as a comp teacher if only he was using it correctly. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I actually brought up strawmen earlier when we were arguing about Colby Lewis during the game.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LET ME HAVE THIS MOMENT OKAY
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Strawman is not claiming a false argument from your opponent
and tearing it down? Show me my claim to 1st amendment rights, smart guy.
Didn’t think so….
I never said you were claiming 1st amendment rights. But you said I was trying to “suppress your speech”. Based on that, saying that you were trying to make this a free speech issue does not seem like much of a stretch.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I never mentioned this as a 1st amendment issue
that’s you’re strawman…
I wish kenshin was still a mod and around
This would have been dealt with right quick.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
two mentions in one thread!
I think if there’s a third he appears.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
/appears in mirror
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I did.
Holy shit.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
No.
And nothing happened.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
that is you are strawman
What does this even mean?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Strawman can't even claim ribeyez
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Signing up with the name “Poopinator”.
by Uncle Russel on Oct 31, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooops
did I break the comment/minute d/dt?
Pikagiants scoffs at your record
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I was that cool!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Apparently, one of the mods thought that was an overly sarcastic comment and warned me! I should really learn what the limits are on this site and follow them, ensuring a better experience for everyone. I will endeavor to do this in the future.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Nerd. I have four warnings!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You have three, you liar!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You're ruining his street credibility!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I hate people who lie about being warned in this comment thread. Those people suck.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
IVE NEVER BEEN WARNED, I DONT THINK!!
is this good, or no?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, fine. But I’m the only person on this site who has been banned!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahem.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
You are really making a strong case for yourself in this thread.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I think in parliamentary procedure
this is the point at which one should move to call the question.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Please toss me off the site
If my disagreement with your mod authority is wrong, ban me. For fuck’s sake….I’d rather know the score now than later
HA HA HA HA!!!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
ARE WE HAVING A LUAGH??
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
LOL LUAGH
Sounds GROSS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Space is Good.
You know, he might actually respond if you would get out of your own head for a moment.
The way you’re responding and tossing out posts without thinking, along with your overall tone of disbelief, sarcasm, and ridicule doesn’t lend itself to any type of sane discourse.
If you legitimately think you’re being unfairly criticized, then calm down and write what you think rather than spewing 20 sarcastic one line posts that convey how pissed off you are and how unwilling you are to have a decent conversation.
Take a deep breath, get up, walk around the house or room, then sit back down and write why you feel like you’re being picked on. You might be able to actually start real discourse that way.
Nivra
I don’t mind being criticized. I do mind having my posts moderated when they don’t exceed the boundary of normal discussions on this site.
Peace, and go Giants.
Responding to a comment with a particularly crude your mom joke is not a discussion.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
it’s directly addressing what you said, for starters.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
@@@@
^^
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
How dare you use his own words and arguments against him!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
p: I’m angry when X happens to me.
j: X didn’t happen to you.
p: What does X never having happened to me have to do with my being angry about it happening to me recently?!!?!!?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I do mind having my posts moderated when they don’t exceed the boundary of normal discussions on this site.
You felt that moderation of your “mom” joke didn’t exceed the boundaries of normal discussion.
jponry clearly felt that it did, and made it clear to you as moderator with a warning. The above comment serves to emphasize that your comment not only exceeded the boundaries of normal discussion but don’t even qualify as “discussion” to begin with.
And that was the end of the discussion, and there definitely weren’t another 200 posts going back-and-forth about nothing at all.
Thing C
On McCovey Chronicles?
Never!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
HA HA HA HA
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
In honor of Halloween

Yet another side project of San Diego’s prolific rocker Rob Crow, the eccentric Goblin Cock isn’t a band to take too seriously. They perform in long black robes, their songs are often tongue-in-cheek D&D excursions, and they’re named after the genitals of a mythical creature. But all that aside, Rob Crow is a talented man, and as their new LP Come With Me if You Want to Live proves, to not give any credit to Goblin Cock would be a foolish oversight.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Is it a funny warning or Hitler dick?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Except for the part where this was your first warning ever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
you should just warn him every day for a while to make his statement almost true
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If jponry doesn’t agree with that idea, your ass is about to get warned.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I’ve never been warned, or if I was I must have forgotten about it. Maybe I was warned. I don’t remember. Maybe I am remembering people posting warning images in GDTs. Shrug.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
groug has been banned before.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I learned my place.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
DELIVERED BY PROMETHEUS HIMSELF
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I THINK HE"S FORGETTING HIS PLACE BAN BAN BAN
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
My fake user got warned once, but that was a joke. I don’t think I’ve ever been warned.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I haven't either
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I was once, but it wasn't serious
I was so confused and couldn’t post for a day. I later found out that there was an “OK” button that did not appear when using Chrome.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I once warned Goofus but for whatever reason, he couldn’t get out of the warning and he thought I’d banned him for like an hour.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
People are always moaning and whining and asking to be warned and it’s like, I’ve got to find all these gifs for it and it’s just too much work. And here I warn someone and he’s mad about it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don't know why he's complaining
It was inevitable. He should just sit back and enjoy it.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
An hour?
I thought I was shunned from the site. I almost left.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
If it was his 1st disagreement with you, then he'd technically be correct
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I don’t remember it and you don’t have a warning stemming from it, so what’s your point?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm sure it did.
But you seem to think I have a grudge against you stemming from past conversations. That is not the case.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Second time flagged, jponry
seriously, I can defame Giants players, but if I make an offhand jab at a player hater, I get tagged.
Bad moderating…
I’m looking at your user-page and you have one warning. That’s it. I don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So we can flame giants players by telling them to fuck off
But when we counter such stupid statements with similar retorts, it’s wrong
You obviously don’t get the hypocrisy
I’m pretty sure this is not a case of being hypocritical. Especially since the comment you replied to was not a “Fuck off Pat Burrell”, but his WS stats from 2008. As I said in your warning, you can disagree with such statements without resorting to childish and crude “your mom” jokes.
GDT have always been a slightly different animal in terms of moderation. People get worked up during games. Moderation is a bit looser in those situations.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Never said any of that.
Straw man deluxe, jponry. Many on this site said “fuck you” to giants players tonight. Not implied, but directly. I don’t have a problem with them saying that. I may not agree, but I’m no 1st amendment nazi. I just reserve the right to declare “fuck you” back. Quit putting words in my mouth. Save the straw men for 6th period.
Uh, referring directly back to the comment that was deleted
and the comment that got you warned is not a “straw man.”
You are digging yourself into a hole. You got warned. It’s not the end of the world. But you’re making it into something much bigger than it is and, in the process, coming off pretty poorly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
NOT A WARNING!!!!!!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
This is already game 9? Wow. season is flying by.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish Clowe was on the Giants
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY GUYS
Read what you write out loud before you hit the Post button, please.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
ITS MORE FUN TO BE ANGRY AND STUPID
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Hmm
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Dave Righetti very concerned about drop in J. Sanchez velocity, says “damn right” he and Bochy will talk about Game 7 alternatives if nec.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I am concerned too.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Yeah - I wondered about the accuracy of the Fox gun
Guess it was right. I wonder if Sanchez took off some steam to make sure he stayed in the strike zone.
HE’S INJURED.
GIVE ZITO THE START.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
No, he'll hang himself with it.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
you fell in a hole, and nobody, apparently, wants to help you out for fear you’ll jump back into another one.
or something
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I told you, you'll only hurt yourself.
Maybe if you keep falling, you’ll hit China or the Earth’s core or something.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
LOL that's what I said the first time too.
ah kids
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I’m not a kid I’m a BIG BOY.
Ok in all seriousness though, which hole did I fall in? The panicking and planning for Game 7 thing? I’m just saying that in a pressure situation…I wouldn’t want Zeets to pitch. If it were in a blow out or something and we bring him in as a relief pitcher…I wouldn’t mind. Starting him in a pressure situation? No thanks
the hole is a chasm. when someone says something sarcastically, and is replied to with a serious answer, sarcasm=sarchasm=chasm.
like the sarcasm-ness of the comment goes (whistles) right over your head.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions
/facepalm
damnit I read too many Freak out comments and I took that one at face value. Thanks for the rope giant4
/cuts rope while you’re halfway up.
HAVE FUN ON YOUR FALL TO THE CORE!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions
/throws down teflon rope, spiked shoes for climb and ties rope to tree, walks away.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions
/goes to bed, hopes you make it out at some point
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, China is only on the opposite side of the Earth if you fail to account for the existence of the southern hemisphere.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Who said he was falling through a straight hole?
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
The Earth is a spheroid
Spheroids don’t have sides.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
side1
[sahyd] Show IPA
noun, adjective, verb, sid·ed, sid·ing.
–noun
1.
one of the surfaces forming the outside of or bounding a thing, or one of the lines bounding a geometric figure.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I bet now you’re going to say that a spheroid is a thing.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
So….I’m going to wind up in the middle of the South China Sea? Oh COME ON I can’t swim. Can I just not account for the southern hemisphere and hit China instead?
You can't swim!?
/high five
DROWNERS UNITE!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
My wife almost drowned at Rockaway Beach in Queens as a child!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
If that’s true, THEN WHY DIDN’T SHE TELL US HERSELF?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
You seem like a trustworthy source.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I hope that’s really really often.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I did too, also at Rockaway Beach
Some giant wave knocked me upside down. I didn’t realize it, and as a result instead of getting back up, i was going further and further down. I finally figured it out, but I was pretty careful after that, only going there to meet girls!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
I almost drowned at a birthday party, as a Sophomore in HS.
And I’m sorry. Drowning is one of my biggest fears. I always try to make light of everything with comedy.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I was afraid of water as a little kid so I never learned how to swim. I don’t go near the water.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I just never learned.
That day made me scared of it though.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
ROCK ROCK ROCK AWAY BEACH!
ROCK ROCK ROCK AWAY BEACH!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m in the drowning line too.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you’d end up in the middle of the Indian Ocean, actually.
A few productive years of swimming and you might make it to Mauritius!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The lesson here, as always, is to not dig a hole straight down through the middle of the earth.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I’ve always thought it would be kind of cool to be suspended right in the middle of the earth, just for kicks.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Aaaaaand we’re back to the stuff that makes me love MCC. Well done, folks.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Twas good fun.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
i will admit, i told ‘em what the hole was, chasm’d. he’ll wake up in the AM and realize he woke up in it. who knows where
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions
i actually always know where i am when i wake up after a long night.
the bars, brick walls, and guards give it away :)
my buddy actually spent a couple days in jail on DIP, disturing the peace and assault charges stemming from a barfight late Thurs nite in monterey. i got away but the cops got him. spend all fri/half of today getting him bailed out.
some dumb navy guys started it.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah it did
it was pretty gnarly. we shouldn’t have gone back in to settle the score with those pricks, but since i didn’t end up in county, it was worth the punches thrown.
he was kind enough to tell the cops he didnt know me well, my name, where i lived, etc… that’s a FRIEND
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions
he's very well-rested
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not injured
And if the Giants tried some lame crap like this, I would not cherish a Series victory at all.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
so if they won the WS by tip-toeing a line that all teams tip-toe all year, you wouldn’t want it?
Mat Latos sneezed, and went on the DL. So other teams can do it, but not us?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
im not advocating for Zito, just saying
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
BULLSHIT
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Oh OK, that worked
Your insightful analysis has changed my moral compass 180 degrees.
You’re a hero. Congratulations.
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"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Being a smart ass for the sake of being a smart ass?
I doubt that in the grand scheme of things that have all seemed to culminate this year that anyone would not be happy if we won a World Series for the first time since 1954. Sir.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I love humanity, with very few exceptions. I’m just not a starry-eyed fool about it.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You pass these out too often to people who aren't me.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
We don’t really know each other that well, but hey. Why not?
/hug
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
HUGS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME AND ALWAYS NEED
The Giants would win the WS if they just HUGGED MORE!
lol you're like the sister I wish I had.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Semantics.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
LOL I'm poor.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Thanks for the textbook passive-agressive nonsense.
My participation in this branch is done. You get the last word.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
REACTION!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
There are no alternatives except
Bumgarner on short rest, an inning or two of Timmeh and a heap of bullpen.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why Sanchez never should have started Game 3
I am still pissed that Bochy set his rotation to put Sanchez in Game 3. You want Torture™? I have nightmares about Sanchez starting Game 7, pitching just well enough to stay in the game, but not well enough to actually succeed, and by the 5th inning, the Giants are down 3-0, and you can take it from there.
I wanted Cain, Sanchez, Lincecum, Bumgarner. Lincecum should have had a little extra rest after his bullpen appearance, and Cain was overcooked. Bochy fucked this one up. I called it before the Series, and I’m sticking by it. All you guys who said Rueter should have started over Livan, this is the same shit all over again. Any fool can see that Sanchez is not the guy right now. We can hope the Giants can win 2 of the next 3 and it’s all moot, but Giants fans also know that this team will Torture us.
I’ve never been so pessimistic about the Giants chances.
Cut ties with all the lies
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Sanchez has a 4.05 ERA in the postseason, you know.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Isn't that what they call a, um...
small sample size?
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THE POINT IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE FREAKING OUT OVER A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE IN WHICH OVERALL HE’S ACTUALLY BEEN PRETTY GOOD!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I'd like to be way wrong
But you remember this when Sanchez’s G7 line is (L, 0-2) 4 1/3 4 3 3 5 2. Believe me, I want to be made foolish by Sanchez. I just don’t see it happening right now.
What he's done is
add a few hundred more pitches to his career high total.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never been so pessimistic about the Giants chances.
2007?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Hysterics! Short term memory deficiencies!
Running around like chickens!
And so Chicken Little set off for London to tell the king that the sky was falling. And on the road she met Turkey Lurkey and ………
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
SCOTT SUCKS!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Reading this thread is what I imagine meth is like.
Except not nearly as much fun.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 7:53 PM PDT reply actions
There are lot of people here think they have the magical solution
instead of acknowledging that we got beat by a more talented team with a great pitching performance tonight. Wake up, people. Sometimes the better team actually wins at their park. There is nothing wrong with losing a game like tonight.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Thanks you.
This is a Texas team that only lost 30 GAMES AT HOME THIS SEASON. They are good. This was not going to be a walk in the park.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
and it was not a laugher, at all
I kept waiting for another 3 run bomb or two, or an inning with 3 doubles, and none of that happened.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if Dunston had his way
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
HAW HAW
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
and we’re still clothed with close to 32 teeth
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself!
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Who watches this team with clothes on?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
everyone will be available for potential game seven.
timmy, cain, madison … if it comes to it, all hands will be on deck. but under no circumstances, do i want jonathon going game 7. he has absolutely hit a wall.
Cain is Able ...
Sanchez in G7 will get us killed, but so will the Game by Committee approach. We simply have to win 2 of the next 3 or we’re gonna get find out how it feels to get fucked in the ass by a stranger.
well i dont share the same doom and gloom approach regarding game 7.
As was seen in game 6 vs. philly, the committee approach doesnt necessarily result in a defeat. My point is simply that all hands will be on deck for game 7 regardless of whether theyve pitched in game 4,5 or 6.
Cain is Able ...
It can work...
But it’s horribly low percentage. It’s hard to remember now, but when Affeldt came into G6, you were feeling pretty lousy about our chances. I know, because I was. That win was a miracle.
just like in Philadelphia
doom
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My take
CF Torres
2B Sanchez
C Posey
1B Huff
RF Ross
3B Uribe
LF Burrell
DH Sandoval
SS Renteria
No major changes. Just drop Burrell down to the 7 hole.
I’d be ok with this.
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Why?
“Burrell has been the Giants’ second best hitter this year, and slumps aren’t predictive.” So why would you drop him to #7 in the order?
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Maybe it takes a little pressure off of him. Maybe Ross gets a few more AB with runners on base.
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I was being sardonic, just saying there's inconsistency in your statements
If Burrell is better than Ross, in general, don’t you actually want Burrell getting the extra ABs?
I actually agree with you, because I believe in things like pressure, toughness, and so on, as well as things like “It’s Cody Ross’ post-season, don’t ask me why.” Baseball is a mental game as well as physical one.
And I think Burrell will be fine in the long run. Guys who K/HR a lot are streakier than contact hitters, and their streaks start and end pretty suddenly from one day to the next.
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this is exactly the move i would make, too. nothing big, just drop the pressure off Pat by moving his lineup spot.
and id swap Pablo and Renteria, cause Pat does walk and Pablo is too GIDP prone.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
er, how about...
Torres
Sanchez
Posey
Ross – gotta have your current best hitter batting cleanup
Huff – did well in the 5/6 spots recently (less pressure)
Uribe
Burrell – less pressure
Renteria
Sandoval – too GIDP prone, has to hit after the top 8
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
because if his slump goes one more day
at least he’s not killing as many rallies as today (assuming the top of the order gets on base)
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine
C Whiteside
1b Sandoval
CF Rowand
RF Juggernate
SS Fontenot
3b Uribe
DH Dirty
LF Ross
2b Huff
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a reasonable compromise between panic and status quo
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ross has showed me more than enough
to believe he wouldnt change his approach by moving up to the 5th spot in the lineup in place of Burrell. I share the same belief that Pat looks rowandesque lost up there but what really is the alternative? i dont feel comfortable bringing travis in and moving aubrey to left at this juncture of the post season. just drop pat down a bit.
Cain is Able ...
more opportunities for Pandoval double-plays with Burrell ahead of him – Burrell tends to walk while Uribe (ahead of Panda tonite) is less so…
I’m of the mind that PtB will start hitting with authority
I’m not so assured with Pandoval…
but it is a decent lineup which I would root heartily…
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You have a point with the Burrell and Pablo combo. But you can’t assume him to GIDP. If I assumed that every time I made a line up, he wouldn’t be in it.
I’d love to see Burrell take a walk and Panda hit a bomb or a double….
really, I would.
I miss the old Panda…or is that the Young(er) Panda??
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
FIRST POST
Been lurking for over a year now. Thanks to all of you for making this season so much more fulfilling with all of your humor and insight. I’m a lifelong Giants fan from the Bay but living in LA. I had my heart absolutely smashed to pieces during Game 6 of the 2002 WS when I was sitting in the bleachers at Angel Stadium, next to a former Dodgers minor league player, and getting hit by “Angels fans” with thunderstix. Quite honestly the WORST NIGHT OF MY LIFE. I cannot wait for the day this team wins the World Championship because it will be sweeter than anything, truly anything, I’ve ever experienced. And it’s only that way because of all the suffering we’ve endured. Let the torture continue for tonight if it must, but we’re bringing home this Championship. And I’m getting my ass on a plane to SF immediately following that final strike. Flight is already booked.
by SFGiantsBruinette on Oct 30, 2010 7:59 PM PDT reply actions
With that said...
I finally joined this board 24 hours ago just to let jt_7241 and S.F. Giangst know that the AT&T Park song they were searching for is Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor) — Pitbull feat. T. Pain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iGuDWDgrgk) The 24 hour probation period was killing me while you poor chaps wondered what the song was.
by SFGiantsBruinette on Oct 30, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
What can i say?
I’m wasted on mimosas. Drinking orange juice and champagne seemed like a Giants-themed way to kill the pain of this mind-numbingly frustrating game.
by SFGiantsBruinette on Oct 30, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish the worst night of my life involved getting bonked with those wretched Thunderstix
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
There were other implicating factors
But getting hit with thunderstix was a key component to the awfulness.
by SFGiantsBruinette on Oct 30, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Reading this
makes me wanna hang a rally monkey.
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You guys are going crazy...
yes, we lost. yes, we probably should have won given that 3 DPs were turned by us and we hit 2 HRs.
Fact is, Janchez put them in a hole fast, and they tried to hit HRs in every AB and blew the game.
We’re still up 2-1. Still a big lead, believe it or not. Why? we win 1 in TEX, then 1 at home. That simple. The pressure is still on them. they have to win 3 of the next 4 to aviod elimination. Our next win puts them at the brink of elimination.
Don’t lose your heads- we’re still on top in a good way.
Fox has a list of 4-5 "fun facts" on every player
Unfortunately, this is our 2nd series with Fox, so we’ve heard all of the Giants facts multiple times….
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Program from Game 1, which my parents went to.
The critically acclaimed, Emmy Award-winning MLB on FOX lead broadcast team of play-by-play announcer Joe Buck and analyst Tim McCarver will call all of the action, culminating their 15th consecutive postseason working together. Calling the Fall Classic for the 13th time in his career, Buck is regarded by many as sports’ top play-by-play man. McCarver, one of the game’s most critically acclaimed analysts, is behind the microphone for his 20th Fall Classic.
Yick.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
of course
Edgar Renteria’s from Colombia. Where they love soccer.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Shows you how much those awards mean.
I saw “The English Patient” and it was the longest 12 years of my life.
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I got fired cause I didn’t like that movie. Oh, wait…
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL N00BS
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by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
seriously… sucidal after one loss and all know radical changes are the only hope we have.
this series doesn’t fall into the PHI series “radical lineup” from Bork
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the worst kind of hindsight, I know, but I’m wondering whether Sanchez should have started Game 2 and Cain this game. I know Cain’s a flyball pitcher and could have gotten knocked around in Arlington, but as we saw tonight, the park was pretty lively anyway. I dunno, I just feel like Sanchez has been in a tough situation pitching on the road, in two offensive ballparks, the last three times out and he seems to get rattled more easily than Cain would.
For the record, however, I’m fine with Burrell starting again tomorrow night.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
since the Giants won both games at home for a 2-0 lead – I’m thinking hindsight isn’t really an option.
Sanchez had to have a start, I’m just pleased Giants were up 2-0 when he had it.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
if this game made the series 1-1
that would kind of suck
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hindsight is thinking Sanchez should have been game 4 starter to get only one start
Which is very, very arguable — in fact given his drop in velocity, I’m guessing that Bochy/Righetti are regretting their decision right now not to go Bumgarner 3 / Sanchez 4.
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I think
they’re slightly worried about overall innings for him as it’s his longest season.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely a valid concern.
But 7 IP (one start) is different from pitching throughout September, and in several different playoff series — once the Giants decided turn him loose that far they can give him one more start if it gives them a better chance to win the World Series. Remember he wouldn’t even be needed for that start unless it went 7 games.
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I get what you're saying
I don’t think they regret anything and really expected Good Sanchez to show up. Which he did, kinda, except for the walks. And the homers.
I think they’ll take their chances throwing Timmy out again if Sanchez can’t do it, and a few innings from Bumgarner as the did with the Phils.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean I think they regret it in light of
Sanchez’ velocity drop. I’m guessing there’s alarm bells going off in a private office right now. Usually you see a little adrenaline based bump in velocity in the World Series, if anything. From the quote I saw, it sounds like the Giants are very concerned.
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really expected Good Sanchez to show up. Which he did, kinda, except for the walks. And the homers.
So other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't
Bumgarner way over his previous high for innings?
I hope he doesn’t have a drop in velocity tomorrow night,
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it's like watching stock
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Or a sideways earthquake.
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I heard they can go both ways.
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The studies on that are pretty shaky.
Not my fault.
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Bum got fatigued very fast in his last outing vs PHI… after 82 pitches, he was out of the game and velo was shooting down fast
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
All of the games matter of course but if there was ever the time for a “throw-away” or experimental game, this was it. Sanchez is always a wild card (could be a no-hitter, could be gone by the 3rd). They rolled the dice a bit and hoped for good Sanchez…and what they got was medium Sanchez. Hell, if Freddy’s ball gets by Cruz, if Ross’ flyball to right carries just a bit more, if Bengie doesn’t get 2 fucking walks then we’re talking bout being up 3-0.
I’ll say it again – the guns are still loaded.
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Hey, I don't see a Giant here.
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Brad Wellman got -2.1 less than 1/3 LeMaster’s career PA!
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IN less than
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When's the last time we had a really good SS?
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Early 2000's Aurilia?
Buster Posey>
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No I mean, REALLY GOOD.
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Yeah, but after looking at his BBRef page, that was an outlier
Buster Posey>
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I mean like the Homus Wagners, the Ernie Banks, the Derek Jeters even, etc.
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LOL if he wasn't so slow, I'd be all for it.
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But not top ten!
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wall of fame!!
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damn you people
I should’ve been walking my dog an hour ago.
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Yeah, I got sidetracked, too. I think I’ll go play videogames or something.
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AND I WANT PIE.
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I’m talking about the tv show, not the movie.
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DAMMIT FINISH BOOK 2 ALREADY
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FINISH BOOK 2 DAMMIT
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They are getting a tour from a creepy, happy lady right now.
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Oh man
You are about to see some heavy shit.
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I need to finish at least part of my hw
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The stakes being this high seems to have injected a lot of “stupid juice” into people’s heads.
And I’m probably not exempt :)
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me either… ive thought of alot of stupid things tonight, but only typed out a few of them.
this is the finale. theres not another series to go after this. and 55 years is a damn long time
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh
I am not early as crushed and defeated as I was that day.
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You mean back when it was good
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Strategy with Bumgarner
Since Bumgarner might be needed in G7, Bochy should have a quick hook on Bumgarner if the game is out of hand one way or another. One of the dumbest moves I ever saw was Bob Brenly letting Randy Johnson go 7 innings in a complete mashing in G6 of the 2001 Series. The game was way way way out of hand, and he trotted Unit out there for all but meaningless innings. He had Albie Lopez out there, and he could have thought ahead. Yeah, it worked out for him, but it didn’t have to.
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4+ innings
Then? Hope Mota has it?
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
I’m advocating a Mota move like that in the event of a real laugher. A 5 run lead is not a laugher. 10 runs is. Don’t ask me where the line is, that’s Big Head’s job.
I thought about this, but
I think you can only do that if the Giants are being blown out. You can’t get complacent with a big lead to set up game 7 better, not in the World Series, not in Texas, not against the Rangers lineup. If the Giants are up big and Bumgarner is pitching well, he has to keep pitching.
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I hate to agree with FP
but the best solution for game 7 is don’t have one.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Always the best strategy – see Game 6 NLCS
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i concur.
you’re sacrificing an almost sure-thing Win for a possible game that may only even happen if you take the guy out the the ’pen blows it.
That’d be some fucked up irony.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the dumbest moves I ever saw was Bob Brenly letting Randy Johnson go 7 innings in a complete mashing in G6 of the 2001 Series.
Hyperbole much? I seem to recall those decisions working out pretty well for Brenly. And Johnson pitched in Game 7 anyway! Do you remember how flammable the Dbacks bullpen was in that series?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 31, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
So before the game tonight I was watching MLB Network and Al Leiter was working with Greg Amsinger who then introduced to the table “Special assistant to Giants GM Brian Sabean, Felipe Lopez…”
Yeah, that would be Felipe Alou.
/facepalm
Not even sure if Felipe noticed as he didn’t have an ear-piece and kept leaning in to have the questions repeated to him.
Still though – Felipe Lopez? geez
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions
Ishikawa over Sandoval is crazy
But not as crazy as Nate over Burrell.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
here's a thought...
i actually liked the Game 1 and Game 2 lineups. They were identical, and we scored a ton of runs with them (while Posey and Burrell didn’t do much either).
Bork should just go back to that lineup, and put the extra hitter (Ish, Pablo, whoever) in the 9 spot.
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by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
oh man
Urban just said he wouldn’t be surprised tomorrow if Huff was in Left and Isii was at 1B.
/sarcastic whoo
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He’s an idiot?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol, I had 7,777 posts before this one.
Is it a sign?
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Public sucks
Privates rule
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Drunken idiots again?
Mr. Merope went and bought Game 6 tickets… I’m dreading it. Please Giants finish this thing before it gets that far!!!
They weren’t all drunk, some were just idiots. Some of the people were funny though
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You know how when you shake up granola, all the big chunks rise to the top?
World Series losses are like that, except with stupid ideas.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
by oldjacket on Oct 30, 2010 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I knew someone who shook up granola.
He turned out to be a cereal killer.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
and thus
a promising new poster descends to the lowest McCommon denominator.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Tough day today
Really would have been nice to put our foot on the throats, but it didn’t happen. No reason for overreactions though, so I hope Bochy doesn’t. I honestly think the question is Pablo or Edgar. I think Ishi and Pablo’s splits are good enough where you would want them in vs rhp. I don’t see Rent’s D as that much of a plus over the alternatives when considering the hitting. No way do I sit Pat though, just get him down to 6. Lets do this, MadBum
what? pablo or edgar? they play different positions
that would mean Uribe goes back to SS, and we break up the left side which has been so strong lately
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rent...
Was exposed on the line drive tonight.
Didn’t pick the ball and make the tag on the steal in Game 2.
The bicep does affect his fielding. Just sayin’.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk and kuip described that as a knuckleball drive with little/no spin and Kuip said it was a really tough play. So I don’t think he was ‘exposed’
He’s looked great with the glove of late as has Uribe – and I wouldn’t break that up either.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t think it looked that hard. But the point is that he couldn’t react because the biceps problem makes it hard to move his glove quickly.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Deep thought I just had to try and distract me from this game
The Niners are the home team tomorrow in London. If they hadn’t sold out Wembley, would the game have been blacked out on local TV?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
what, they’re playing in Wembly? isn’t that like a 90,000 capacity stadium?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
My friend is there.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Sharks games are really fun to go to unfortunately they are really expensive and we only go to one or two games a year. This year, probably less.
-1
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
My brother is there.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
If nothing else...
This means Fox has to air at least one more game of a World Series that I’m pretty sure they really, really don’t want.
Surely we can all point and laugh at Fox here, right?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 30, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions
maybe if the ratings go low enough
they can declare bankruptcy.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
BURN THEM ALL
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
maybe they’ll give up on broadcasting it, declaring it the “most boring WS ever” and we get CSN and Kruk and Kuip back.
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Have they forgotten 2004 and 2005 so soon?
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Astros? who? hmm, they must be a minor league affiliate. Where’s the real team?
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
All joking aside
The 2005 World Series was actually really good, even though the White Sox swept. All four games were really tight. Plus, 14-inning Game 3!
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Well, Clemens got hurt and that kinda set the tone for me for the rest of it.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I felt really bad for the Astros that series, despite the fact that they were the Astros.
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oddly, though
In the 2000 World Series, every game was close, and yet it was pretty fucking boring somehow.
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Ugh
Stupid Mets.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I figure it was mostly a matter of:
(a) Neither the Mets nor the Yankees were actually that great that year
(b) It was the tail end of The Yankees Win The World Series Every Fucking Year
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im pretty sure the giants scored 22 runs over the last 3 games and the sharks scored less than 6
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, damn… that’s alot of goals, actually
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not panicking.
And I won’t panic if the Giants lose game 4, either. If they lose games 4 AND 5, then I will panic. But for that to happen, the Giants would have to lose the next 2 games in a row. That’s a bridge I’m willing to cross if/when I come to it.
Anyone panicking because their team lost game 3 and leads 2-1 and has home field advantage has not been a baseball fan for very long.
Thing C
and IMO didn't look terrible doing so
I dreaded a 10-8 slugfest, but if the other games are in this scoring range I like the Giants’ chances.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The series doesn’t even start until someone wins a road game
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the problem with that is that if the Rangers win all 3 games at home, the series can “start” and end with a road win.
Thing C
are you saying the giants would lose?
get outta here
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
its no big deal
Lewis just pitched better than Sanchez, who walked Molina twics and gave up the homer at the wrong moment, with 2 on.
Other than that, no major breakdowns. Our defense played great, including Burrell’s grab at the wall and the 3 double plays.
Sure, we could hit better and work counts longer. But is a 4-2 loss that didnt really expose any major weakness imho, other than we may not want Sanchez in a potential Game 7
didnt expose a major weakness?
id consider finding out the team is seriously considering axing the next start of said pitcher as a major weakness
by giant4life83 on Oct 30, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
oops, totally missed that last part. i was like, uh… big weakness
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions
OldHossRadbourn Old Hoss Radbourn
Missed the game. Let’s cut to the important stuff: how did J. Bieber do?
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“Sanchez walks Molina, and Bochy has seen enough. Here, in the top of the 3rd inning, he’s turning to Lincecum out of the pen.”
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
The next time someone walks Bengie
they should lose their playoff share.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Even game tonight
Both teams hit two homeruns and that was all the scoring. If we hit ours with people on we win the game. Its ok to lose a game in a series
by haroldansivakumar on Oct 30, 2010 9:21 PM PDT reply actions
too bad we didnt have anyone on since we were down 4-0 and everyone was hacking for HRs.
Lewis put down like 12 straight at one point, IIRC
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting postgame comment from Ross:
He said that, since they were down 3-0 early, they changed their approach and tried to be more patient in order to work for more baserunners as opposed to their normal “see ball, hit ball” approach. Lewis saw this and started lofting weak fastballs and loopy breaking pitches in there for strike 1.
We might see more of an attacking approach today against Hunter, who apparently throws a lot like Lewis.
I felt like it was the opposite. They had some longer ABs before going down 3-0 but then after, it was like every AB was over in 3 pitches.
But then maybe that was partially because Lewis became a strike throwing machine.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Giants are still up 2-1
So why does it feel like it they’ve already lost the World Series to me?
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Because.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
by fracon on Oct 30, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Don't be absurd, Grant
Some of your finest minds in this group have assured me that Jonathan Sanchez is this knock-down drop-dead lights-out left-handed stopper who would make ’em forget Sandy Koufax — and pooh-pooh on me for doubting him!
How could they possibly be wrong?
For that matter, some of the finest minds in this group have assured me that Pablo Sandoval was Mike Schmidt, Chipper Jones, Graig Nettles, and Brooks Robinson all rolled up into one — and pooh-pooh on me for not wanting Sandoval in the clean-up slot — and playing SHORTSTOP if necessary to get his bat into the lineup!
For that matter, YOU are one of those members of the Pablo Sandoval Marching and Chowder Society.
How could any of you possibly be wrong?
Not to say that the members of the Jonathan Sanchez and Pablo Sandoval Messianic Churches haven’t used empirical analysis to justify their positions. I’ve read a number of “Whatever, dude”‘s and “Uh, OK”’s delivered in response to my apostasy.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
Congratulations, you have just won the I Posted A Really Long Comment And Not A Single Word Of It Wasn’t A Strawman Argument Award for Excellence!
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Skimmed, really.
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Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Oh well, then I guess there’s nothing wrong with my responding to something that I’ve “skimmed”.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw nothing wrong with jcb9’s sentence, and I didn’t skim.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Hey, show me a single point in your comment that isn’t a strawman and I’ll happily concede.
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Which would matter if you cared what anyone here thought.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
this site
must remind you of work, a lot, sometimes.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, show me a single point in your comment that isn’t a strawman!
I won’t only “skim” it, so your response is safe to give to me.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I’m sorry I didn’t read every single word of your stupid diatribe. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
I looked up apostasy!
/good student
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Is it a snickerdoodle?
I love those!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Yay!
Thanks!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I can see you’re really interested in being a positive contributor here.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Not really.
A “positive contributor”? What? HERE?
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I must have missed the statements by Grant or other members that are referenced here:
Jonathan Sanchez is this knock-down drop-dead lights-out left-handed stopper who would make ’em forget Sandy Koufax
some of the finest minds in this group have assured me that Pablo Sandoval was Mike Schmidt, Chipper Jones, Graig Nettles, and Brooks Robinson all rolled up into one
I’m sure you won’t mind directing me to these comments, kind sir.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Whatever, dude
Uh, OK.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I should have saved my Rudy speech for you instead of wasting it on waffles.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
We had kind of moved on beyond the bullshit and started talking about who the worst WAR players of all time. And then I walked the dog, and came back to this.
I’ll take the blame on this one. :(
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I blame Kenshin
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
shift-A
So anyone consider Lincecum starting tomorrow and pushing Bumgarner to game 5, so that we can avoid Sanchez in game 7 if it comes to it?
A couple people did. I think managing for Game 7 when you’re up 2-1 is a bit panicky.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
But does switching Bumgarner and Lincecum hurt our chances? I’m not sure
by kingofthacove on Oct 30, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
I’d rather have Timmy pitching on normal rest once than pitching on short rest twice.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
But if there’s a physical problem with Sanchez, would you rather have normal rest Lincecum and messed up Sanchez over two short-rested Lincecums?
by kingofthacove on Oct 30, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not saying I wouldn’t be a huge old bag of mess if there was a Game 7, but I’d be more confident with Sanchez starting at home, on full rest, in that situation.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I’m not giving up on him after two starts, but there’s seems to be concern from the coaching staff that there is an actual issue with him
by kingofthacove on Oct 30, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
There is an issue
He’s tired.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You can also just go Bumgarner on short rest once.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Not quite
If he comes out with a fairly low pitch count you can think about him for Game 7. If he goes 100 pitches… no.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s time to panic. But I’m still not pitching Lincecum on short rest.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
remember the Cubs and Pinella pulling Zambrano early to use him later in the series? That worked out well.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
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Bum tomorrow
Punt game 5 against Lee.
Tim and Matt at home.
hehehehe
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You do not punt a game in the World Series
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
what a horrendous metaphor
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
If you punt Game 5, you may never get to Matt in Game 7.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Presuming Bum wins game 4 only
…a Game 7 is possible, and you can think about fancy stuff in Game 5.
If it’s 2-2, then Timmy, then Cain and then all bets are off.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Jonathan Sanchez 2010 = Livan Hernandez 2002
We can’t hide him.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Livan Hernandez 2002 wasn’t a bad pitcher.
Neither is Sanchez.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Livan Hernandez, 2002 postseason: 6.20 ERA, 10 K
Jonathan Sanchez, 2010 postseason: 4.05 ERA, 22 K
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I went to look them up and was quite interested to see that Hernandez had the better FIP.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
FFS
Jonathan Sanchez has ALWAYS been enigmatic.
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Or has he?
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by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
HHHHHHHHWAAAAAAAAAAA
OMG TWILIGHT ZONE
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Seriously
This is exactly the pitcher he’s always been. I wonder if people are forgetting all of May through August, when he didn’t ever have two quality starts in a row.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
So you're saying
if there’s a Game 7, Jonathan Sanchez will throw a no-hitter and have 3 home runs? I’ll allow it.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
screw Cliff Lee
he’s a good pitcher but he’s not a hall of fame pitcher. We beat him. We can beat him again.
Don't you remember?
He beat himself.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
there are a dozen NL pitchers as good as cliff lee, and we’ve beaten all of them (who arent ours). This guy is hyped up the wazoo because the phillies had him and the yankees want him. He’s had exactly two good years out of a 9 year career.
Tim in 3 yrs is already more accomplished
Hey I'm just referencing most sports people who won't admit that we beat him.
Also, he’s been great since 2008. 3 years.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Or it’s because he’s a top-three pitcher in baseball. either one.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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I was going to respond to this, but I realized that Felix Hernandez, David Price, Halladay, and Verlander at the least have been better this year, so he really isn’t as good as we think. It’s the “playoffs” “clutch” argument that puts him above in the minds of the media.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I know you're joking...
… because of the hehehehe, but that’s the most worstest idea ever. Don’t forget, the National Media declared we weren’t supposed to win G1.
i would almost just say swap Timmeh and Bum so both games are mismatched (tim/hunter, bum/lee), and we are nearly guaranteed a win tomorrow, while Game 5 they are heavy favorites, we walk out of TEX up 3-2 with 2 to go at home. One more win pushes them to Must-Win territory.
However…
But Timmeh is not on full rest, and hasn’t been crazy good lately either.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the world series
There’s no such thing as guaranteed win.
I think this is a situation perfectly suited to Bochy’s near-catatonic calm.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
For those who talked about parades, whether they should win at home for the fans
FUCK YOU
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
IAWTC
but in light of events in this thread I redact agreement with the matter below the subject line.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, Neftali Feliz scares the shit out of me. That was as dominant a ninth-inning save as I’ve seen in quite a while.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
exactly
Or after winning a 3rd game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and his manager always find a way to get him into the game at the highest leverage situation
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Tempting
But I don’t like Lincecum on short rest.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions
Me Neither.
It’s more fun when he’s full of energy.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I.Don't.Get.It.
I really don’t get all the people coming on here and spewing off random thoughts and arguing with others here when it is apparent that, either don’t know what they are talking about or they just like to argue.
I have only been here on MCC for the better part of this year, and I have learned about things I never even knew existed about the sport (and I played baseball/watched baseball for the majority of my young life.)
We are in the World Series. We are up 2-1 against a very good team. Losing happens! (trust me, I was part of a team that lost a 151 game win streak).
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
I think your beard is awesome.
It’s late at night, and I say odd things.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
1001 111101 1011 100111001001 0 001010101010
lol wh y are the re e spaces wh eer the re shoul n ’t b ee ?? oooh ooooo
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I think I saw a 2
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Futurama reference.
Scores:
fracon: 1
TheLetter2: 1,000+
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Thanks, Letter. I enjoy your slashfic.
But that isn’t all that odd.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
Well, I generally make a rule not to awkwardly comment on the relative attractiveness of MCCers, but I blew that out of the water with Howie last week.
What the hell? There’s only one October.
I’m going to bed now.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Night, sweet prince.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I bet you the Lonestar Ball Lurkers are watching this
and laughing at the knee jerk reactions
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
As they should
This is some pretty funny crazy shit.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
They’re probably freaking out that we’re at 1500 comments.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
After a loss no less.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
well, nobody has anything to say when we win. we’re just like “well done”.
but we lose, and everyone has “the lineup” or “the pitching alignment” that is guaranteed to make the team win tomorrow.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions
So how bad is Tommy Hunter? anyone know anything about these “AL” pitchers?
Bum should be a big advantage for us, no?
4.99 FIP. He’s not very good. Hopefully the Giants can take advantage.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOL take advantage of
Aw, I made myself sad.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Has he been confirmed to pitch? That would be a relief.
by kingofthacove on Oct 30, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT KNOWS TO TO WINZ .765 WINNING PERCENTAGE!!!!
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My fear
He’s a 4th starter. High ERA, bad peripherals. In other words, kryptonite to Giants hitters.
I’m hoping he’s not the Bobby Jones of 2010.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
At least there is no pitcher to not pinch hit for
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Hunter
Gives up .040 more points of batting average to lefty hitters.
Free Mike Fontenot!
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I heard he’s 7-0 in Arlington this year.
He’s DUE for a loss!
/optimism
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 30, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i looked it up using "old stats"
7-1/3 IP, 11H, 6R in postseason. 0 BB, however. 1 hit batter.
odd W/L total on the year for his overall numbers (13-4), below league average pitcher.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually could see a 1987, 1991 and a 2001
i.e. the home team wins every game.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I would not be averse to that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Not if we knew in advance
Which, of course, we wouldn’t.
Going home down 3-2 would be quite a depressant.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, no, on second thought, it would be a good result whether or not we knew in advance.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 30, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
if i knew in advance, like actually knew, fuck, man… i would either watch every game, win or loss with a huge smile, or I’d start crying and not watch one minute of it.
guess that’s what makes sports so great. it aint scripted
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions
wow you're extra encouraging tonight
one in TX plsthxbye
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wrote my resignation letter.
Monday’s going to be an interesting day.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
you got that job you had the interview for?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to be the new All Things Considered host at NPR station WUOT in Knoxville, Tennessee.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Congrats Letter, That is awesome!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
wow
Tennessee Smokies FTW!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they’re just down the road. The station manager’s a big baseball fan, so we geeked out about that for a little while.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
best of luck
and hoping for a friendly Monday… people can be pretty surprised at resignations.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
its usually good form to let your current employer know if you are in the final stages of seeking a job upgrade, professionals understand you are trying to further your career.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions
it's also dependent on the sort of job
sales jobs can involve poaching clients, and companies don’t want that to happen. And at some places life can be pretty uncomfortable if the job falls through and you end up back at the same desk with everyone knowing you were “a traitor”.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Way to go!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Congrats!
Is your on-air name TheLetter2? ;)
Are Tennessee Public Radio fans going to be confused when you drop Eugenio Velez references into the next pledge drive?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
No, nicknames are more a commercial radio thing. And the listeners won’t be any more confused than my current listeners are when I wax rhapsodic about the Giants in the forward promos for Tom Goldman’s reports on the World Series this past week.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Wow – so cool! Congrats, dude!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
MAJOR MAJOR CONGRATULATIONS
May you be blessed with light and joy in your new job. It sounds absolutely amazing.
No more mornings. No more mornings. I can’t even tell you how much that means to me after nearly half a decade of waking up at or before 4:30 a.m.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
I usually get up at 5
I like getting off early, but waking up in the dark in every season is a drag. One thing nice about East Coast Bias is that at least you’re in the same time zone as the people you have to deal with.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Congrats!!!
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 30, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
does this mean we can call in and ask for more slashfics of the Aubrey Huff/Pat Burrell lovefest on the air?
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, and don’t tell anyone, right? I have to make the formal announcement Monday morning.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
oooooooooooh
I’m tellin’
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I'm better now
I’m ready for tomorrow for the 49ers sure loss and whatever the Giants give me.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
the Niners losing is the best thing for tomorrow. Gives the Gmen their win.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
stuff I've eaten since the game ended
1) A slice of key lime pie
2) Four fun sized 3 Musketeers bars
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Me
1) 4 pieces of a frozen Cadbury Caramel Dairy Milk bar
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hmmmm...Cadbury Carmel
Sounds like you have more will-power than I do. If I start on one of those the whole thing is gone before the day is over.
It was very good, I might have to return to it later.
Right now, though, my brother finally came home and made a frozen pizza, so I’m having dinner.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WINE AND CHEESE BLOG
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
CHEESE IS ON PIZZA!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
half a sack of peanut butter cups
suck it trick or treaters!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s whole lotta cups!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
What, maybe 6? They’re making them smaller, the fascists.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
wow, really? That’s just not cool.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You're not Graham Crakalalalalala
Don’t eat too much more or you’ll get fat.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have put on a bit of weight since the move.
That really has nothing to do with diet, though; it has to do with the fact that I used to walk like 5 miles every day, and now I live in a city with no goddamn sidewalks (and nowhere worth walking to anyway).
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Just been drinking..
Cran-Grape juice
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
A big ass plate of chili-cheese fries.
And a pitcher of PBR.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
1) a very small Butterfinger
2) a quarter of a Chipotle burrito
3) some onion
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
just raw onion?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
interesting
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
When I have it, I like to eat it with hummus.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
like ensalada chilena or something?
white onions make a nice side salad with a bit of red wine vinegar.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Never heard of that, actually. I just like onions.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
ensalada chilena is just sliced onions and tomatoes
but yes, the onion salad is a nice taste.
The only person I knew that did that was Persian.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
My four-year old son loves to snack on raw onion when I’m cooking.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Your face.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
That is my face
Matthew’s a spitting image of me but he gets his love of onions from jcb9. It’s ALL HIS GENES.
So wash them!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
/stands in this line
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I read you sig and, for a second, thought you didn’t believe me.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I might. OR I MIGHT NOT!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Fix your son!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Been there!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
is this the face of a boy who needs fixing!?
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
All three of you people fail at life.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Fact.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
are they SOUR?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
MEXICAN COCA-COLA
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
real sugar
not corn-derived food sweetening product
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh. Artificial sweeteners are just wrong.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Xylitol is YUM
I just discovered it. Tres cool sweetener.
Xylitol isn't an artificial sweetener
It’s a plant extract, like sucrose.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry. Didn't mean to imply it was artificial.
It is a sweetener, though.
/ SHRUG
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad!
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
it shares the same molecular structure as sugar, but it’s different. it’s weird. but coke zero is the bomb and I’m okay with whatever sugar-like molecules drift in its sea of caffeinated goodness.
You make me sick.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I can get some guy to hit you.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I like you.
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
i smell a bromance comin’
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah sure, what the hell!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
sure thing
fwiw, caffeine usually puts me to sleep… but whatever amount is in coke zero doesn’t even faze me one way or the other.
I’ll still punch you if you want though!
It has the same general structure (disaccharide) but there are three chlorines instead of hydroxy groups.
Thing C
Do you know how that affects the human body’s reaction to it?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
This is not my area of expertise, but in my experience you can’t generally predict how a change like that will affect the molecule until you take it for a spin, so to speak.
I am not sure if the wiki entry is correct but it sounds like sucralose was discovered to be a super-sweetener almost purely by accident.
Thing C
The Chlorine in Splenda is not good for the human body.
We already get too much chlorine in our body as it is. Additional chlorine going directly into our systems from Splenda has lots of long term health concerns.
Google Splenda and “health-effects” or something equivalent, and I’m sure you’ll find lots of info on it.
You know what else has chlorine? Salt. We ingest way, way more salt than any chlorine that may be liberated from metabolized sucralose molecules.
Thing C
It's not just chlorine
I took one talking point re: the chlorine, and it may have been
FWIW, I do avoid chlorinated water and do limit my salt intake as well.
Look below for actual studies that reference long term health concerns re: splenda. Whether those health concerns are Cl related or not, I don’t think anyone knows yet.
Random googling: the best way to get accurate information on your health!
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Is this a story I’ve never heard?
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Don't diss de google!! Actually, Google and Evaluate
Look at the cites I provided below. It starts out with googling. Then you either use Nexis to find news articles or you use scholar.google to find scholarly articles.
Google is fantastic for scholarly research. I use it all the time. You do have to avoid the obvious crack-pot sites, of course.
Google’s pretty great.
But health information is best made in consultation with doctors, and uncritical use of Google leads to believing stuff like this.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Definitely use it critically.
LMAO @ DHMO website.
Critical evaluation of research is always a must. There are a lot of crack-pots out there. Typically, you can always find stuff in peer-reviewed journals, which is what I do below, re: splenda.
It’s definitely important to consult your doctor, but doctors are just another resource. His or her own biases and rigorousness with regards to current trends and research can heavily influence any advice given.
extra chlorine
must be good for you!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Splenda has been shown to have horrible side effects
I would really watch splenda and aspartame intake. They’ve both been shown to have deleterious long-term health effects.
If you’re looking for sugar substitutes, Stevia and Xylitol are both great. Xylitol is fantastic. Looks and tastes just like sugar. It just can’t be used for liquids. So use Stevia or honey or maple syrup or agave for liquids. Stevia is best, but some ppl don’t like the aftertaste.
Both Stevia and Xylitol are great, even for diabetics.
lulz
that probably has more chlorine in it too.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, Agave has low glycemic value.
It’s still a calorie rich sweetener with little in the way of micronutrients, however. Raw honey or Maple Syrup are more nutritious than Agave.
For diabetics, I would really suggest switching to Xylitol and Stevia, however. Stevia for liquids and baking, Xylitol for everything else.
Do you have a cite? Because the “dangers of Splenda” on the Stevia website is almost totally unsubstantiated.
Thing C
From a quick google
Here’s a website that claims it has citations:
http://www.splendaexposed.com/
Down the site, here’s one of its citations:
http://www.splendaexposed.com/articles/2009/01/new_splenda_suc.html
In that article, they reference a study published in Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health Part A.
Using a quick google, I found a lot of studies containing sucralose and toxicology. Here’s one re: migraines:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1526-4610.2006.00386_1.x/full
Here’s another review:
http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0717-95022009000100040&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
It cites multiple studies, some of them show only limited toxicitiy, some of them show long-term carcinogenic properties, some came up negative.
Your first two sites originate from a “doctor” with a degree obtained from a web college – Clayton College of Natural Health. The other two don’t seem to say what you seem to think they do.
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by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The first two are from the same website, and I used it as a leaping platform. The second was supposedly a reprint of a news wire article. Using the second site, I googled and found links to the other two. The third and fourth links say exactly what I think they do. They both raise toxicity concerns regarding sucralose(Splenda).
The third link is a case study describing sucralose-caused migraines. The study raises concerns that sucralose may have neuro-toxilogical effects which can exhibit symptoms such as migraines. Granted, it’s not 100% bullet-proof causation, and it is just a case study, but it’s evidence and casts doubt on the FDA and Johnson and Johnson’s claim of Splenda being non-toxic.
The fourth link specifically reviews several studies, and has mixed conclusions that show toxicity in animal studies. The following are quotes from different studies cited in the fourth link:
“Two-year carcinogenesis studies of mice even detected a rise in the incidence of chronic nephropathy, compared to the control group…”
“No significant teratological effects were observed at doses of 1 or 2%. But at 5%, there was diminished food consumption, weight gain, deficient food conversion and alterations in absolute and relative weights of various organs, including the spleen and thymus, as well as histopathological alterations of the cecum.”
“…epithelial hyperplasia of the renal pelvis was observed in all females of the treated group, mineralization of the renal pelvis in females treated with intermediate and high doses of sucralose (1% and 3%) and hemorrhagic degeneration in the adrenal cortex…”
What do you mean it can't be used for liquids?
I use xylitol in coffee & tea all the time.
The one thing xylitol doesn’t work well for in my experience is baking cookies or anything that you want to have a crunch. I don’t know if it’s because xylitol doesn’t caramelize, or what, but they just don’t seem to ever crisp.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Guess I was wrong about liquids.
I heard the quantities needed to sweeten liquids were too much, so people didn’t use them. Maybe they were talking about commercial sodas/sweeteners.
That could be
I think the main reason it’s not used in sodas is that it’s too expensive.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, I ran out. More of a summertime thing, so I probably won’t restock for a while. =(
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by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
FINGER POINTER
Pablo Sandoval: The Triforce of Courage
Buster Posey: The Triforce of Wisdom
Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
I've never had this
Heard is worlds better than our coke.
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Fun Fact
In San Francisco, the Giants are now 0-4 on game 3s of the World Series.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yeah but in 2 of the previous 3 times, they won game 4 (only 1989 they didn’t).
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
your facts seem to get less fun as you go
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Has this been discussed?
According to this column, the video that was shown on the Rangers ballpark scoreboard tonight before the start of the game was the clip of Nolan Ryan taking down Robin Ventura in the infamous punchout.
I mean, I know Ryan owns the team now, and they can show whatever they want on their ballpark’s Jumbotron, but really? The greatest moment in your franchise history is a dust-up after a hit by pitch?
Stay classy, Texas!
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
What else would it be?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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WALK OFF WALK
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Canseco!
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The actual video of Nolan Ryan throwing out the first pitch at that very game.
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by satyricrash on Oct 30, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
While I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m sure the fans get pumped up by that.
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Oct 30, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
It’s just funny, it’s very much reflective of the state’s culture (or at least how they’re perceived outside Texas).
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I BET U THE GNATS WILL SHOW A VIDEO OF GAY SEX BEFORE THEIR GAME!!!!!!!!!!!
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I wouldn't doubt it.
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WHILE SMOKING LOTS OF WEED
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by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
WHILE TAKING THE WINE TRAIN THROUGH NAPA
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Some folks in my section at Game 2 were smoking weed.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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That’s annoying.
Unfortunately we may be going to game 6. I’ll have to see about getting a mask or something. Any smoke irritates me, I don’t even burn incense anymore…pot smoke is about the worst. For some reason it seems to permeate any cloth type barrier I try to use (scarf, shirt, rally towel).
If you can’t smoke tobacco there, don’t smoke pot their either.
It was really bad walking down the street after the game, too. This guy next to me saw a TV reporter doing a piece and he waved the joint in the air and started saying something about Texas hating weed or something.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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I dunno about franchise history
I think it’s just Nolan Ryan’s favorite clip. Check out this Bill Simmons clip where he says that every time he goes to a memorabilia convention, there are signed photos of Ryan punching Ventura.
I just saw this on SFGate
The Giants remain mum on the investigation into a shipment of human growth hormone allegedly sent to Jose Guillen’s wife in San Francisco, but manager Bruce Bochy on Saturday was happy to dismiss the perception that Cody Ross is the postseason right fielder because the Giants were told to keep Guillen off the series rosters.
That decision was made before all this came out," Bochy said. "I thought it was pretty evident (Guillen) was not 100 percent. His neck was obviously bothering him.
Mmmmm hmmmmm
Either way, apparently they didn’t keep him out of the lineup because he sucks…which is sad.
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Guillen was generally lousy
Either the neck was the problem, the neck was an excuse for another physical problem, or the neck was an excuse for poor performance because he knew the Feds were in the mix.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I just want to know when the neck became a problem. I always thought it was the legs.
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by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
god burrell has looked awful so far this series.
FREE BUSTER
by TimLincecumIsGod on Oct 30, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
Free Mike Fontenot!
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunno about Fontenot but what about, say, Schierholtz in place of Burrell?
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 31, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions
no. Pat has to play. Hunter isn’t a good pitcher. This is how Pat will bust out of his slump, just like Torres did against Blanton.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Burrell isn't happy about it either
Comcast video of Pat’s interview tonight:
<href=“http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/giantsvideo” >
check down the right side for Pat’s interview.
“I’m supposed to be a presence at the plate and I just didn’t do that.”
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
But he did answer the tough questions, especially when one of the writers made reference
to his struggles in the World Series he played with Philadelphia.
On xeifrank's simulation thread
j14 said Texas will win 6-2. He was pretty close. :(
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It felt like that was the score, the way they were hitting against Sanchez and given how strong Lewis look.
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
Some good news
•FoxSports.com’s Ken Rosenthal tweets that Giants’ lefty reliever Javier Lopez will fall short of qualifying for free agency this offseason by just five days of service time. It’s a shame he won’t be able to cash in on his dominant postseason (5.2 innings, one hit, one walk, six strikeouts).
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Marc Anthony is pleased.
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Wow
5 days? Bummer for him.
Good for us.
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Maybe the Sanchez problem....
isnt psychological. his velocity is down. maybe its just that his career high innings pitched last year was 163.1 innings and with the postseason he’s now at 213.1 this year. maybe he’s just on fumes. maybe we are asking too much of this arm.
madbum’s career high (minors) was 141.2, but he’s only at 123.2 as of today.. He probably has a lot more left in the tank. Start madbum in a Game 7
MadBum threw 80+ innings in the minors this year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t know if I can definitively say that he’s on fumes (though his velocity is down) but I do wonder whether or not it’s a factor.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Inconsistent pitcher is inconsistent.
I think 90% of his struggles can be explained in that light.
Thing C
Combining minors, majors, and postseason, MadBum’s over 200 innings.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Yeah, but AAA isn’t real baseball.
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206.1, I think.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Correct.
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Good night.
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Brandon Belt: The Triforce of Power
Couldn't they swap Sanchez and cain for games 6/7 or no?
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
If it goes to game 6, then it's either to clinch or stave off elimination
You run with the best pitcher you have available.
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Yeppp..
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crap
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Why?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 30, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
A. You still have Sanchez pitching a game, which is the problem in the first place.
B. Sanchez would be on three days rest.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Ahh
didn’t realize it would be that quick of a turnaround. Crap.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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Horrible they lost
But at least we have a game. 28 other teams would love to be in the Giants position.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He has stoopid hair.
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by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I can’t say I’m surprised the Rangers are a tough team to beat. Obviously Sanchez had his struggles, but the Rangers played well. Colby Lewis is, as I thought, a very good pitcher. And it turns out guys that are good at hitting will, occasionally, hit well. For example: Josh Hamilton.
I never thought this series would be easy, that’s for sure. It would be very nice to see the Giants win the next one. That would be just jolly.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
this
Hamilton was going to do something eventually. I think Guapo underestimated their lefties or his scouting reports might have not served very well; I heard him say in the postgame that he pitched around Bengie to get to Moreland.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Either the website is in error or Rob Neyer has changed his mind
Neyer was on ESPN Radio and now says he picked the Giants to win in 6 when on ESPN.com, he picked the Rangers to win in 6.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
eh, someone took a screenshot of the “expert” picks, so he can be held accountable for bandwagoning after the opposing team went up 2-0
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions
If anybody wants to has a nostalgia sad Olliefu just posted a new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFUMF6893cg
Just want to throw this out there.
Uribe was magnificent at third base. He had some screamers hit at him, I can’t remember him missing a single one.
So I just discovered there is a live-action Asterix & Obelix film
My evening is booked. It’s French, but I don’t mind subtitles.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
So, it turns out the subtitles worked for only about 15 minutes of the film.
Still good.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Haha! Those pirates never knew the Gauls were on board! Classic.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
How is it? I always liked Asterix.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 30, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s good! Looks fantastic. Seems spot on with characters and mood of the comic so far. It’s the Cleopatra story, if you know that one. At any rate, the whole “movie in a language I don’t know” makes it less enjoyable, but a lot of the story comes through anyway. Half the comic is the visuals and characters anyway, and you get those despite the language barrier. The delightful puns are lost, but I can also read the comic again to remember how it goes.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Damn, the Earth Kingdom is creepy. Brainwashing!!!
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ITS ALL FOR THE GREATER GOOD
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Seriously though
The whole section in Ba Sing Se is probably the best part of the series. Top 3 parts at least.
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The Iroh segment of Tales of Ba Sing Se just made me cry a little :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So if you just watched Jet get brainwashed,
You have like 4 more episodes of book 2?
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Yeah, I think so. Hopefully I’ll get to Book 3 this week.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh Zuko
So full of fail.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Which fail?
He has several towards the end of this book.
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His date. That did not go well.
The next episode is Appa’s Lost Days. I’ve heard this one is kind of dull. :\
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yeah
It’s kind of a breather episode.
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There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
yeaaaa.....
I’m no good at this.
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I think The Machine should pitch Game 7
"I don't know what you're talking about," Wilson said when asked (if he puts shoe polish on his beard). "It's dark because we play a lot of day games. It's tanned. It's focused."
Is The Machine a pitcher or catcher normally?
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The Machine has struck out 90 times in his last 12 ABs :(
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Torres has had similar issues
This team is streaky. We have to accept them as they are.
Even in their S&M gear :)
i never said i didnt accept them. they are maddening, sure, but i love em
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mean to imply that you didn't
The machine will get us all in the end.
HOLY CRAP HAS ANYONE CHECKED OUT GOOGLE YET?
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East Coast Bias!
Rooting for Jose Casilla to take his K- and GB-inducing skills to the majors and join his brother.
I hate it when I can’t figure out all the letters.
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by can of corn on Oct 30, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Just wanted to point out
That we’re 0-1 in the playoffs this year in games where the opposing pitcher is Tommy H.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Why the fuck did I read that whole thread
And what is with all the random panic and people freaking out because we didn’t OMGSWEEP?
It’s Texas. At home. It was a 4-2 game. Of course we’re going to lose some, and lose some in a nerve-wracking and worrisome fashion, because it’s Giants baseball. The slogan is not “Giants Baseball: Predictable and Efficient Victory!” People need to sack the fuck up and /dealwithit.
Also, can we just fucking ban poopinator?
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 31, 2010 12:42 AM PDT reply actions
hahha but poopinator is funny
Can’t believe I read the whole thing too…I gotta admit it’s better than a soap opera though.
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 31, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I still love everyone here
But that doesn’t mean I won’t poopinate on someone if we don’t win the WS.
Peace jponry…. I may not like you, but we both want the same thing.
Let’s bury the hatchet.
And I'm sorry
Just pissed as hell. I’m guessing I’m a bit older than most (probably older than you), and these games are killing me slowly.
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I’m fine with moving on if you are. I never intended nor expected a simple warning to cause such a stink.
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Word up
The torture is getting the best of me.
Peace to you as well "Lies and Perfidy"
We all just want a win.
has Washington ever used Feliz for more than 1 inning? Especially since he used to be a starter there is no reason he didn’t bring in Feliz in the 8th to face Posey and then pitch the 9th.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
nope. the thought never even entered his mind to go to Feliz to get the 3rd out/8th inning of Game 2 (before it was blown open- whoa, can’t believe I’m saying that about a Giants game)
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Washington is terrible at bullpen management
Colby Lewis made it easy on him by pitching deep into the game, but the next time the Rangers’ starter has to leave early, get ready for LULZ.
Rangers have hit LH pitching very well this year
and are 5-1 in the playoffs with some staggering numbers off some aces (Sabathia, Price, etc)
I hope MadBum doesn’t run out of gas early tomorrow like he did in Game 4 NLCS- Bork has gotta have a quick hook if he gets into trouble
This was my biggest concern this series
Next season we can’t go with 3 lefties in the rotation either. It’ll kill us.
were you thinking of trading Zito to the yankees or something? maybe we can swap him for aj burnett and save a little money
I doubt that's going to happen
but I’d take it in a NY minute.
i dont know what burnett gets paid, but zito is much older than him i think, so it’d be worth it. zito’s FB has fallen to 85mph.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions
This
would have never happened if Todd Wellemeyer was still alive.
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My sister in law was kind enough to let me watch the game on her sling box on the
way to Dark Harbor @ the Queen Mary in Long Beach. I had to appologize for being a dick when i tossed her phone on the dash from the back seat when Uribe struck out to end the game. She understood and laughed though. She was sad too that Burrell wasn’t doing good. She’s not a Giants fan but likes Pat the Bat because he’s HAWT.
I know
that’s why i posted it. I defended your right to do so, and LOL’d when you did.
I just got kinda scared when i saw that picture come up...
I was like Oh crap am I being made an example of?
No worries
Just thought it was one of my funnier moments on this site.
Not a stalker bro :)
It took me a while to tailor my "humor" to this place...
I will admit there are somedays I see things that our a bit more edgier than the love making pandas. But I don’t mind staying in line with what the moderators deem appropriate. I get alot of my daily laughter from this place.
I actually am still confident about the Giant's chances. As much as I would've loved the sweep,
we had to lose at some point. I’m glad we tried to claw *fight back and didn’t get blown out.
At the Queen Mary, we went through one of the Haunted Mazes...
and one of the Monster Actors broke character after scaring the shit out of me. He saw my Giants hat and asked who won the game today. I told him the Rangers won and he replied “GIANTS SUCK” and then went back into his little hideout to scare someone else.
Does anyone think that crowd in Arlington sounded a bit tame today? Especially for a team making it’s first world series appearance…
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
and FOX spending more time on the fans than the game. where have i NOT seen that? hmm? oh, that’s right- the games in SF.
Now I’m gonna go off before I go to bed:
Selig is buddie-buddie with Nolan Ryan, intervened to make sure Ryan got the team over Mark Cuban when it was supposed to be a public auction and Cuban bid 100 million more than Ryans group, yet, Selig arranged for Cubans bid to be ignored and the team sold to Ryans group. I’m not a big conspiracy theory person, but when the commissioner of baseball has blatant butt-buddies that things seem to go in the favor of, it makes you wonder. He’s too biased towards certain teams to be running MLB. MLB needs a non-partisan commissioner.
by giant4life83 on Oct 31, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions
this indeed
with a damned crowd split-screen during ABs?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Did anyone see any non-white people at Arlington? No? Nope? Me either.
by WilltheChill on Oct 31, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Everybody they showed looked like they were a horrible bully when they were young. They were the judgmental bossy lady from the PTA, or the dad who takes his kids’ soccer games way too seriously, Or the former drunk frat boy and a girl who accidentally ran over someone with a car….oh wait, that was our former President and First Lady.
by Murray, Present on Oct 31, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
This would totally make my weekend...
Niners win. ( Even as a Die hard fan, I’m caring less and less about this)
Warriors beat the Lakers and get to be 1st in the west for a day.
Giants win with Bumgarner giving us 7 shutout innings.
I would trade the first two for the Giants win in heartbeat… DUH
Don't do it!
I sacrificed the Cal season in my mind for the Giants winning the Series. And look what happened to poor Kevin Riley.
by Murray, Present on Oct 31, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
All I care about is option 3
i’d love to see the niners lose out and get a good pick.
And to think up to now I was having a pretty good Sunday morning.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
what do you want Steve Holm! to wear
when he’s watching in a bar?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 31, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I think thats actually Steve Holm
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 31, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks shopped
Nobody actually owns a Steve Holm jersey.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 31, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions

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