Game Three Preview: Colby Lewis
The top of the Rangers rotation is fascinating. Cliff Lee is the kind of control artist that comes around every other decade or so. C.J. Wilson is a reliever-turned-starter, and that gag never works. Two hundred innings into the season, and Wilson is still fantastic. He’s also kind of a character, too -- the kind of guy who could make you laugh while telling you not to slam around at a Minor Threat show.
Colby Lewis’s story is the most interesting of all. The Rangers had an idea they were going to contend, so they put a lot of money into the high-risk/high-reward Rich Harden. Good idea, but Harden got hurt. It wasn’t a devastating loss, though, because they also signed the low-risk/high-reward Lewis, who turned into one of the best starters in baseball. It’s impossible to describe how weird the story is without visiting the alternate dimension:
The Giants are close to re-signing Brad Hennessey. The right-hander left the Giants when he was removed from their 40-man roster, and he kicked around the minors before pitching two seasons for the Hiroshima Carp. Hennessey went over to Japan and dominated, posting a K/BB ratio of 9/1 in 354 innings. The Giants are confident that Hennessey will become one of the most reliable starters in Major League Baseball, and that he’ll lead the Giants to the World Series.
It’s an imperfect comparison, but it’s close enough to make you feel like you’re on peyote. I’m not sure what happened in Japan. If Hollywood has taught me anything, Lewis probably had to go to his pitching coach’s house, wash a bunch of vintage cars, paint a house, and sand a huge deck. Actually, it seems like Lewis turned the corner before leaving for Japan -- his last season in the Pacific Coast League was pretty good.
A quick list of the pitchers I worried about the most when the postseason started:
- Cliff Lee
- Francisco Liriano
- Roy Halladay
- Cole Hamels
- Colby Lewis
- David Price
- C.C. Sabathia
- Tim Hudson
- Tommy Hanson
- Andy Pettitte
Well, this is in the general sense; obviously, I worried about Lowe/Hudson/Hanson the most when the playoffs started. For some reason, Lewis’s command and strikeout stuff gives me the willies when I think of the Giants trying to hit it. So did Lee, Halladay, Hamels, Hudson, and Hanson, but this time I’m serious. I was jealous of the Rangers when they signed Lewis -- I’m a sucker for those high K-rates in Japan -- and I’m envious that they have him locked up for the next two seasons for the price of a couple of Barry Zito outings.
So he’s good. I just wish there were some way to feel confident that the Giants could do something against him. Say, a string of postseason games in which we were taught to set our expectations and preconceptions on fire. If we had that in our back pocket, I’d feel more comfortable writing something like, "I look forward to watching him pitch, and I look forward to watching how the Giants approach him" instead of the cynical nonsense I usually write.
I’m just glad he’s not Tim Stauffer, to be honest.
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I’m just glad he’s not Tim Stauffer, to be honest.
Tim Stauffer haunts my dreams like Freddy Kruger.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I met Barry Enright's brother while in line for Garlic Fries at the ballpark
Nice guy, turns out they’re both Giants fans from Sacramento.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
I thought K&K said he was from Stockton
Also going from Stockton to Pepperdine must’ve been a culture shock
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Woah, maybe I've met him
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
You are right, I must have been drunk, he did say Stockton
This girl I brought to the game had me double fisting beers.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
marry her.
"to me, the all star game is retarded."--aubrey huff
by Hummbaby711 on Oct 30, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Tim Stauffer may be the scariest man alive, scarier even than Dick Pound.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Heh
Dick Pound
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I don’t get it.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
TNWSS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
This was my thought too.
The mere mention of his name gave me the willies.
"Liberal is to the media what the 2008 San Francisco Giants are to good baseball."
-My Father.
by thecrippesking on Oct 29, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You're forgetting...
It’s not just his Japan statz, but also that he pitched in the American League, which makes him infinitely better than Dirty, who also had the advantage of pitching on the West Coast, where baseball players come from, but not where baseball is played.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
Colby Lewis
Not as gouda as Brie Clark.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
You’ve been waiting all series for that joke.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Being a regular he could have pulled some string(s).
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Lewis is a real muenster on the mound
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
You knew it was coming.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
And then he thought to himself, “A little fermented curd would do the trick.” So he curtailed his Walpoling activities, sallied forth, and infiltrated our place of purveyance to negotiate the vending of some cheesy comestibles.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I WANT TO BUY SOME CHEESE!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Oh, I thought you were complaining about the music.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I like a nice bouzouki.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Was he throwing cheese?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Giants hitters will edam up
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 29, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That joke really bleu.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Asiago what you did there.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think he saw Monterey on his trip to NorCal?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried to ask if he was, but he sounded feta-up with all the questions.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Gouda one!
"I'm not sure what the hell charisma is, but I have the feeling it's Willie Mays." --Ted Kluszewski
by Rick Parker (Lewis) Can't Lose on Oct 29, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a clear-cut queso of a struggling pitcher looking to rebound from a poor start.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez has always been livno the edge.
by Every6thDay on Oct 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
he may string us along
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Wonder how his arm is holding up
Last thing a pitcher needs is an injured limburger.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 29, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey! Leipäjuustole my line!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
uh-oh
trouble must be a-brunost!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope he isn’t very sharp tomorrow.
Living in Brooklyn - behind enemy lines.
by seeingthings on Oct 29, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Other pitchers better than Colby Lewis:
Camembert Blyleven
Jon “Red” Leicester
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, I had completely forgotten about the existence of Jon Leicester
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Actually, so had I
I was riffing on Jon Lester.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
I remember when Leicester played for the Orioles
and Jon Lester pitched against Jon Leicester
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I went to St Francis
One time we played a game against a school from La Canada: St Francis High School and their Lancers. I really really enjoyed doing the PA for that game.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I forwarded this thread to my BoSox friend fan
And she asked why no one had asked Reggiano Jackson what he tought.
Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.
too bad
ol’ Thurman Muenster isn’t around to ask anymore.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, Derek Cheddar is the guy to go to because he’s the captain.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Ray Romano just called, he wants to know why this thread is funnier than he is
by Snewman1209 on Oct 30, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
What the deeeeeeaaaalllll with cottage cheese? It's neither a cottage..... NOR a cheese?!?!
by Snewman1209 on Oct 30, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope the Giants can solve Lewis
I hear he’s a real whiz on the mound
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
by jordanovich on Oct 29, 2010 12:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You're just the fontina of knowledge here
Havarti a nice day.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
I hope we can string together some hits against him
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Y'all mozzarella be antsy without a game.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Awful is a cheese?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what they call a facepalm with cheese in France?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
French facepalm. With cheese.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Freedom facepalm.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
With cheese.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that in France they call it an English Facepalm with cheese. But the English call it Dutch facepalm with cheese. And the Dutch, bizarrely, call it Argentinian Facepalm with cheese.
Isn’t that weird?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Sorry – I couldn’t help myself.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no. I think the pun is that “all of” sounds like “olive”. Olive cheese! It’s actually quite clever!
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the team can adjust to facing a righty
I hope Pablo DH’s – though moving Huff to the DH and giving Ishi some ABs wouldn’t be the worst thing either.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Or putting Nate out there
He’s 1-1 with a walk this Series (SMALL SAMPLE SIZE!) and he made that GREAT catch last night in triples’ alley. Huff’s defense is good, I’d rather upgrade the outfield. Though perhaps we don’t need to considering the size of the Rangers’ OF.
Ain't no Posey like a Buster Posey cause a Buster Posey don't stop...hitting.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to do that (TM)
Burrell's not comfortable DHing
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
HIS GLOVE IS JEALOUS
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Actually
I like the latter better. I would rather give Ishi, 4-5 AB’s, plus get his defense in the game, then give Sandoval 4-5 AB’s, while trying to keep him focused on the game while not playing in the field.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Oct 29, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU SAY I MAKE NO DIFFERENCE BUT A LEAST IM FUCKING TRYYYYYYING
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WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE>?!?!?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I was beginning to wonder if anyone was going to finish me off.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
thanks for picking me up there
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
TWSS
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
IF we should be fortunate enough to win a third game in this series, I hope there is a facebook movement to encourage all Giants fans to wear orange if they support Grant not penning a single word of a Giants World Series Champion post until it actually happens. Not one word of it.
by mlb22 on Oct 29, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We have no chance without clown-ball rules.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
So Let Me Get This Straight
The Giants can play sub .500 ball and win the world series
Sounds like a good plan
They can also play over .500 ball and win the world series
I like that plan even better.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wait does he throw
with either his left or right hand? We could be in trouble!
Are these jokes still funny after 19 runs in 2 games?
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Please
Regression toward the mean. Those first two games have already happened (they did, right?), and they don’t change the scoring expectation in future games (except possibly slightly upward).
your comment is definitely toward the mean
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
your comment is definitely toward the mean
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
your comment is mean. Or something.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
towards it
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad
If the Giants win this series it won’t count because of all the mercenaries.
/Matt Latos
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
The Giants will not win this series
They are only setting us up for a higher-level of heartbreak.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Oct 29, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t remind me.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I have to
With everyone talking about what will happen if the Giants win the series, I feel it’s my duty to perform an anti-jinx on all of those comments, not to mention that the Giants have conditioned me to be a pessimist and no lead is safe. In fact, I’m still worried the Phillies are going to come back and knock the Giants out.
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Oct 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
By how many runs will the Giants win tomorrow?
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-2002
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Drats! Foiled again!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
You’re supposed to be using when. Here’s an example:
“When the Giants lose…”
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Says the Padre
Oh, the irony
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Mat
He isn’t smart enough to spell it rite.
Colby Lewis has pretty good stuff… I’ve seen a limited amount of action from him, but he definitely shouldn’t be taken lightly…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
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Burrell and Posey have looked completely baffled at the plate at times already in this series. I can’t imagine Lewis will be the one to bust their slump.
by Every6thDay on Oct 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially Burrell… if it wasn’t for his ability to get on base, I would debate moving him down/out…
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I know guys like Colby usually 1 hit
The Giants, but in my dreams, I keep seeing another good offensive explosion from this team in game 3.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
I do too
Texas has one foot in the grave, it’s time to push them in and close them up. I think the Giants are loaded with confidence right now, and I see Colby having some success first time through the lineup and then getting lit up like a Christmas tree.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
Seems like a Matt Cain clone
about 60% FB…uses a slider about 20+% (instead of Cain’s curveball/changeup)
about 10% swingthrough (not good)…(Cain 8.4%)
45% flyball (v. Cain 46.6%)…0.83 FB/GB (0.78 for Cain)
72% strand rate (Cain-75%)
FIP: 3.55/xFIP: 3.93
About a 3:1 K/B ratio
4.4 WAR (Cain 4.0)
Except Cain actually has talent.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Is Cain’s WAR lower because of the FIP, xFIP bullshit?
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I choose this one.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Lewis always reminds me of a healthy Ben Sheets
by biff pocoroba on Oct 29, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I remember people were confused when Washington announced his rotation
With Lewis in Texas and Wilson in SF since Wilson has Texas’ best GB rate
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Part of me want them to get this over with and just win this series already. But there is a little sentimental part of me that really wants them to clinch at home. I think the San Francisco fans really deserve to see a clincher at home.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
I’ll take any win.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
sssssssssssss
I would trade that right now for another bus-welcome at the park. Win game 3 and then finish them.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
WIN EVERY GAME.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I made that horrible mistake in 1979 as a 10 year old rooting for the Orioles.
I rooted for them to lose game 5 and they lost the series in 7.
Fellow Orioles victim here… Yeah, effing Pirates, effing stupid song, effing stupid Series.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell the sentimental part of you to STFU k, thanks
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
This to the 109th power.
Mays Field will probably be there next year, right? Plenty of chances to rock the house next year, but let’s just nail this down at the first possible opportunity.
Like Olbermann was saying about the Yankees… Never let a good team up off the deck. Stake through the heart! Finish them!
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
please no
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
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I will do nothing of the sort
/subject line
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Oct 29, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF you
For not putting a S/L
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Thanks for the subject line. Jerk.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re new, so you get a pass on not using a SL this once.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope he used a SL earlier he knows!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Banned
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
(it’s a joke)
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
(I can only taste mod powers)
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
Didn’t realize.. Will not make future mistake!

Thank god for SL.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Just ones in the present apparently.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait...what?
That’s not a chick?
"Then I didn’t know what to do. So I ran in and punched Wilson as hard as I could."-Aubrey Huff
"Dance like it hurts. Love like you need the money, Work when people are watching."-Dogbert
by GreatAetherFTW on Oct 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Touché
"Then I didn’t know what to do. So I ran in and punched Wilson as hard as I could."-Aubrey Huff
"Dance like it hurts. Love like you need the money, Work when people are watching."-Dogbert
by GreatAetherFTW on Oct 29, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of Men Who Look Like Old Lesbians. That blog got me through the writers’ strike.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wow
Let’s denigrate lesbians. Thumbs up, yo.
Set it on fire!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
/clicks subject line
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I did laugh at the creepy Zito in the background. But otherwise Justin Bieber can die in a fire.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm neither 11 nor female
Fuck Justin Bieber.
Anagram of "SF Giants National League Champs" = A HOT, GAINFUL, MAGIC PLEASANTNESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Getting mixed signals from this comment.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Mike Commrie gonna get mad at you!!!’
by skilletboy on Oct 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Subject line'd
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Honestly no one in the world has more confidence in Jonathan than me, idiots are calling him a bit of a question mark and an uncertainty, but I could see his line being something like this:
6 IP, 6 H, 5 BB, 5 K, 109 pitches, 3WP 1 ER
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
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As Tim McCarver would say, “The Giants are going to have to score more runs than the Rangers to win this game.”
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
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Tell Jeff Francoeur's beard I said hi!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck tim mccarver
he should be saying, “The Rangers are going to have to score more runs than the Giants to win this game.”
No one should have to listen to Tim McCarver
Have you noticed — and of course this has been going on for many many years — that McCarver repeats what Buck has already said. And if, by change, McCarver says something original, it is banal. Pathetic.
Don't believe everything you think.
What I've noticed
Is that McCarver will listen to Joe Buck and then restate Joe’s comments. This gives the listener no additional information but does allow the viewing audience to hear the same idea twice, usually within a 30-second span. The effect is that listeners will have the idea reinforced in their minds because the average human brain cannot process an idea after hearing it only once, in my opinion. This is a phenomenon that, to my understanding, has been going on for quite a few years.
Sure.
The human brain didn’t ‘want’ to process the garbage Joe Buck spat out the first time he said it. It also doesn’t really want to process the regurgitated shit McCarver says. Funny how that works.
So, what you're saying, Voxx,
Is that if a person was resistant to the idea first advanced by Joe Buck then it can be reasonably assumed that the same person will be just as much, if not more, resistant to the same idea, though restated in slightly different terms, when stated by Tim McCarver.
That’s an interesting theory, in my opinion. Perhaps as the Series advances this idea will have the chance to play itself out.
It all depends on which Jonathan shows up. I have faith that he will be good tomorrow but it’s hard to have confidence in a guy who in one of the biggest games in his career and he doesn’t make it out of the 3rd inning. But I believe, I think Dirty will show up tomorrow.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Me too. Jonathan has been so clutch at so many times for us and maybe has the best stuff on the staff…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
I think he may have the best stuff but he needs to consistently throw strikes. He’d be a BAMF if he could just be consistent.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
If he could be consistent, he’d be Randy Johnson. That would be okay.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
YES!
Yes, he would
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
He’d have to grow seven inches and have a life-threatening episode of acne.
I could see him as a lefty version of John Smoltz Lite though.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Randy Johnson
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Sanchez is my sleeper pick for 2011 Cy Young
Because if he could have just one season where he figured out the walks, the rest of his stats are good enough to win that award.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The variable we’re forgetting is that the Rangers will probably attack against Sanchez on Saturday. If he’s throwing his slider like he normally does, he might rack up a bunch of strikeouts and be able to go deep into the game.
I think, unlike the Philly’s, the odds are that the Rangers will be aggressive in this game.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rangers are the most patient team at the plate though… striking out the least out of any team… that’s why I looked forward to Cain and Bums starts than Timmeh and Dirty… Although watching any Giants pitcher aside from Zito arouses me like no other.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
um, what?
you’re not serious, are you? they were next to last in MLB in P/PA
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Maybe not patient, but they struck out the least… oops
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
“Being patient” and “not striking out often” rarely go together (Tony Gwynn did it, most guys can’t). Almost by definition if you take a lot of pitches you wind up in a lot of two-strike counts, which obviously increases the odds of striking out.
That’s not really true. If you look at the top-25 at O-Swing%, a few have crappy K rates (Werth, J. Upton, Weeks, Young), a few have great ones (Scutaro, Span, Keppinger, Theriot), and the rest are around average.
Yes, generally, patience leads to more 2-strike counts, which lead to strikeouts, but it’s not terribly hard to think of patient players who don’t strike out often.
the Phillies are a more patient as a team than the Rangers are. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers hack at some of his pitches outside the zone and help him out a bit more in the early going. If he can get into his rhythm early, he’ll be good.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 30, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
only 5 ks?
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
"Because I don’t know what it means anymore, in the PCL. It’s almost like years ago."
"That’s not to say Buster isn’t fully committed or all-in. He is. He’s smart and he’s got the advance reports. Anybody who said he’s not ready to catch in the big leagues is crazy because he’s a pretty good catcher, especially throwing." - Sabean 7/11/10
We’ll be fine
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
There’s no point in being a Giants fan if you’re not going to stress out over every blog entry…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
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Cain is all over ESPN today. People are talking about how good he’s been and how they’ve known it all along (lol). No one deserves it more.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
"Curt Schilling is a horse's ass."

"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
by Juan Primo on Oct 29, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cain’s been the same pitcher for the last 5 years… he’s not all of a sudden pitching “good.” Everyone is sackriding Matty Ice and AT&T Park for its beauty so hard these days…. AT&T has been there for how long now?
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
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Cain has always been good...
but he has learned to pitch the past few seasons. He used to just throw the good old country hardball. Now, Cain isn’t thinking “strike out” every at bat. He is no longer just a good pitcher, but rather, a great pitcher.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
by 1ManWolfPack on Oct 29, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Normally I would be singing the same tune, but Cain is finally getting recognition, so fuck it!
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He just now figured out how to win.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Not really, the dude’s cursed… once he got out of the game the Giants erupted for 9 runs.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
If it hadn’t been Cain starting the Giants would have had 30 runs.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
because he's talking about baseball
It doesn’t happen often, but that’s the kind of thing that results.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because apparently the series is over and he’s doing his absolute best to jinx this fucking team.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't know how to win
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
How about this… Whiteside catches, Posey at 1B, and Huff DHs… that way Dirty can regain his personal catcher?
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
True.. But Treanor had been getting games all season and into the postseason…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
right
so why change horses now? Posey hasn’t played 1B in a long time. If he is hurting or beat up, let him DH, but you’ll probably also have to chain him in the clubhouse to keep him from running out to catch.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
…because when you have the advantage of the DH, you really want to shift things around to get Eli Whiteside those extra ABs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Exactly! Plus Whiteside's hot
Dude hasn’t made an out all postseason
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Ask and you shall receive... picture in picture!

by we want foyle on Oct 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sidenote:
Uribe’s 8th inning HR against the Phillies to seal it, thats how you celebrate an 8th inning HR that breaks a tie.
Hinske needed a lesson. And got one.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Holy crap! That’s a Bochy sized Zito noggin right there.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
didn’t want to wait for photoshop to install so I had to stay classy and use MS Paint. Resizing was boring me.
Good to know.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda felt bad for him
though… especially since Ishi gives him a look that says “nub”
I’ll never feel bad for an opponent messing up.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I felt bad for Holland
I felt better when the runs scored, but that was painful to watch.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was sad. But we’ve been through it… Zito in the Padres series, SanCHEZ in the Phillies…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
I'll feel sorry for those guys
in November.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I did it for the lulz
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the type of “highlight” I hope we don’t see much more of from Giants fans, because it’s a very fine line between this and turning into Sox and Yankees fans. Cheap move that says less about Guerrero botching the play and more about how classless you are if you want to watch this over and over.
In contrast, Guerrero is one of the classiest players on the planet. Never a whiff of scandal around him. Would ride the subway in Montreal back to his place; never bought the flashy car. They reserve a seat for him on the Rangers team bus, and he’s never asked for it. Done a ton for the DR. Led the procession for Jose Uribe’s funeral. Quiet. Always been that way; I had a friend who played with him in the Cape Cod league years back, and was as shy as you could be when you were the one talent that people just went ‘wow’ for even back then.
And the numbers that he put up. He was one of the absolute terrors of the game for years both defensively and offensively. I went to Montreal for a number of years and watched him just nail people at the plate when they were dumb enough to run on him, which they wouldn’t because his arm was just that good. I watched him hit homers on insane pitches at shoetop levels going out to dead center in that park, which was darned near impossible even for one (or several) chemically enhanced people – and in the steroids era, his name and Griffey’s are the two best power hitters that never were connected to anything scandalous.
He’s not what he was. His knees are shot after playing on the Big O for so many years, and there’s a report of him getting hurt sliding into second. And most importantly, Washington should have never played him in RF that night; had he had a brain, Vlad would have been fine in left, which he’s perfectly capable of playing.
A number of columnists had the same reaction I did; it really hurt to watch him out there, reminiscent of Mays in 1973. Would you post one of Willie Mays in the 1973 Series tripping for the LULZ?
This isn’t ARod, or most of the Dodgers, or a jerk. This guy is a hall of famer, probably first ballot. I don’t know if the Giants will win this thing, but I do know what class is. This isn’t it.
by HaroldS on Oct 29, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
lol you
Everyone knows Vlad is one of the best, we’re just having a little fun at our opponent’s expense.
Take your thin skin and run along now.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
U R 5
oh, the bad old days. Now we could never even FIND the bike rack for all the screaming fans.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So that explains where you were when they were one game out, RT got his jaw broken and 3000 fans showed up since the Niners were on that Monday night! No bike racks in the old lots!
I don't mean to encourage you
but I was replying to delorean. I won’t bother again.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Vlad Guerrero. I was a huge fan of his when he was with Montreal. I read an article about him in ESPN the Magazine, about how his great personality never came through because he played in a city that spoke French and English. He became a reticent man, totally unlike him, just because he had nobody to communicate with in Spanish. That article made me see how important it was to become a multi-lingual baseball journalist. I am learning Spanish now and that skill will put me ahead in the business and give me a new understanding of the majority of professional baseball players.
Or, you know, I can’t enjoy a good break for my team and I should whine about it instead.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Cuando tienes un corazon, sabes sabiduría mas queue un lingua. Ahora, tienes solamente chupas y un boca grande. Chau Chau.
Something about a big mouth?
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Google sez
When you have a heart, you know wisdom more than a language. Now, you just suck and a big mouth. Chau Chau.
You don't speak Spanish very well.
And you’re a jerk.
Way to totally undermine your point about being nice.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Remarkably better than it sounds.
Sabean delendum est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Now I'm confused.
Can I still giggle at the clip of the ball bouncing off of Canseco’s head & going over the fence?
There was scandal around Canseco so it’s ok to laugh at him.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you hate freedom, justice, and all that is good and right?
If yes, then no.
If no, then yes.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Can we still laugh at Raul Ibanez gifs?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Yes. Yes we can.

THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
YES HD
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
/Trying hard not to crack up in class
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Never gets old. I’m now having to explain why I’m laughing in the middle of a video conference. I went with “It’s a Giants thing.”
"It’s like being a kid when you get orange slices and kool-aid, except tonight we’re nailing champagne" - Wilson
"I want to hug Uribe. I want to hug Posey. I want to hug everyone." - Torres
"It's gonna get weird tonight." - Huff
True. But my boss actually just explained that I was at the game last night. The clients we’re conferencing with just now smiled and said they watched the game. Turns out they’re Giants fans since the Cubs aren’t playing.
I’m hoping this occurrence somehow pans out into a raise, but I’m doubtful.
"It’s like being a kid when you get orange slices and kool-aid, except tonight we’re nailing champagne" - Wilson
"I want to hug Uribe. I want to hug Posey. I want to hug everyone." - Torres
"It's gonna get weird tonight." - Huff
Meh.
He had his chance to sign here, and not only did he not sign here, he signed in the AL. So his horrendous play in our RF is his own fool fault. This is the World Fucking Series. It’ll take a lot more than Vladmir Guerrero playing like shit for me to start shedding tears for the other team.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well to be fair, Sabean did say he never made an offer to Vlad
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
And this is why . . .
. . . Not only did Barry never have the bat behind him (Kent exception) that would have made us perennial pennant winners, but it is also why Giant management (read: McGowan) painted its way into a PR corner, forcing it to make stupid, expensive gestures to the fan base (read: Zito & Rowand). Not signing Vlad or someone a half notch below has crippled this franchise for years.
Don't believe everything you think.
THIS^
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It's always amused me
when people focus on class for a group of people (fans) who routinely get drunk, yell, chant and boo opposing players, take their shirts off and paint things on themselves.
I’m not trying to say that there are lines that should not be crossed. I’m just saying that the focus on class among sports fans is mildly amusing to me.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Also, pointing out class is kinda snobby,
and I thought the national consensus was that SF’s full of snobs.
And we’re snobby about it.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Do not fuck with my PBR.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Ooh
I do love horn rim glasses.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Fact: The fanbase of your opposing team is always classless
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 29, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you saying Texas is a communist utopia?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
A columnistic distopia
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Again
Any opponent error that benefits the giants is a WIN. Everything else go out the door in that situation. I don’t care if the Dali Lama or the Pope makes the error, if it benefits the giants and leads to a win i will celebrate it.
Brooks Conrad is also a classy guy with a great story, but he still got made fun of. Nothing changes in my mind because it’s Vlad or whatever.
Just my opinion though. I can see the other side too.
Can't you be happy for the Giants without mocking the other side?
I would never make fun of Conrad. Dude had it hard enough.
Doesn’t mean I wasn’t happy when the Giants won. But you don’t have to be mean about it.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm Not making fun of him.
Other people were. But I was extremely Happy that he made errors.
As Far as im concerned, the ball-through-the-legs-of-vlad.gif is a happy moment for the Giants because it lead to Runs and a Win. Doesn’t mean i don’t respect Vlad. Dude’s a beast.
I don’t get why we have to feel sorry for opponents. That’s not how it works.
You don't have to feel sorry your your opponents
You don’t have to feel anything towards them, especially if you beat them.
Except fuck the Dodgers.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
ok. i see what you're saying.
Yeah,
I didn’t mean to come across as saying that we should make fun of players who make big errors and stuff, but at the same time i don’t subscribe to the feeling sorry for them thing. Their Fail = Giants WIN and that can never be a bad thing.
That sums it up for me.
Heh, Baggs ripped on Conrad today
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
then why can't he pick up a baseball?
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Minor Threat and the Giants in the same article?!
I am happy…even if Minor Threat was brought up to describe a sXe Ranger.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
Am I the only one who wants a sweep? I’ve always said the Giants have exceeded expectations and everything from here on out would be icing on the cake but…
I FUCKING LOVE ICING.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
This I don’t think they’ll sweep. One game at of time. Set your expectations at the bare minimum. I just want them to win one game on the road. If they win two then that’s even better.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
What you want is irrelevant. What you've chosen is at hand.
You’re a Giants fan. Disappointment and ulcers is part of the game.
by Every6thDay on Oct 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess is that the Rangers win on Saturday.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE FUCKING ICING
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How does the icing feel about it?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
it's kinda cold about it.
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LOL
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to win one game in Texas.
At a minimum. Please win one game in Texas. Please win one of the first two games in Texas! Please win at least one game in Texas, one of the first two game in Texas, win one stinkin’ game in Texas, pleasepleasepleaseplease!!!
by mrs. owlcroft on Oct 29, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I absolutely detest the DH rule
the non DH
is a girly move. When the Giants walked Moreland to get to CJ Wilson with 2 outs in that inning, that shows me why the DH should be adobted in the NL. What a sissy move. To make it fair, both leagues nood to have the same rules. The NL gets a HUGE advantage in the World Series because of the DH/non DH rules. Especially at the NL parks.
-From LSB
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
it's a persuasive argument.
Especially that advantage the NL gets at the NL parks in every world series game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
also
Shinjo and Dunston would like to point out that the NL rosters don’t really tend to include a DH-type player. Sometimes, but not always.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s kind of lame to be complaining about something that has been the same for over 100 years, though.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
/chasm
he had me at “nood” “sissy”
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I in the minority in my belief...
…that it is the AL that has the advantage in the World Series because of having the DH rule? The AL teams have the advantage of having had their clubs built around the existence of the DH. They have professional hitters who are the DH for a living. (See, e.g., Harold Baines, Edgar Martinez, and now Vlad Guerrero.) The really good AL teams have spent money on the DH position to the same extent that they spend money on any other position.
NL teams, by contrast, have to fill the DH spot in the World Series with guys off the bench. So for the games in the AL ballpark, the AL team will almost always have an advantage at the DH spot.
AL teams’ fans can complain about the pitchers hitting and all that jazz, but is THAT big a disadvantage for them? You’re not talking about a great number of at-bats for NL pitchers over the course of a season. Maybe a slight advantage for the NL teams, but I have long felt that the AL has the much greater advantage when the DH is employed.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
That depends in good part . . .
. . on how smart the NL clubs are. If you reckon that because there are eight non-pitching positions on the field, what you want and need is eight prime players and a handful of scrubs, you deserve everything you get. If you have the wit to realize that players need occasional days off, and so treat 4th OF and 3rd middle IF (or, depending on personnel, some other pair of roles) as positions just as important as the other 8, and fill them with “regulars”, you will be just fine if you have to play under AL rules. (Maybe better than the AL team, because many AL teams still haven’t tumbled to the reality that there should be no such thing as a “designated” hitter—DH is a role that ought to be rotated around.)
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I think AL clubs have to deal with the fact that if their DH is slumping, generally they don’t have a second option that’s as good as a NL team’s first choice DH.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
My argument for the DH being dumb
9 people go out on the field and play baseball, those same 9 people are supposed to hit in the other half of the inning.
It was like this in Little League all the way through High School for me.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If the whole argument hinges on walking one batter to face another — ISN’T THIS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WHEN BENGIE MOLINA CRUSHED THE YANKEES’ SOULS?!?!
by Every6thDay on Oct 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But the AL is so much better they should be able to overcome the HUGE advantage.
And that hasn’t stopped the Yankees and other American League teams how many times? What about the advantage AL teams get for having the DH at an AL parks when very few NL lineups have a DH specifically waiting in the wings for the World Series?

"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
by shahbazi3 on Oct 29, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 20 recs
Perfect.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Reading Lonestar Ball
really makes me appreciate The Good Phight so much more.
by scotterduder on Oct 29, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The Good Phlight during the World Series is mildy entertaining…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Might have to check it out… Their team situation is quite similar to how ours was a couple years ago too… interesting…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
This is all you need to see.
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/10/21/1765161/some-thoughts-on-game-4-of-the-nlcs
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s great. Followed now! It’s a shame that more people don’t read that site…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Tons of people read that site
Or did I fall in the chasm?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
My favorite
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Oh that's amazing!
“DOUBLE”
“No”
“DOUBLE”
“Yes”
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The DH Rule
Is like having someone else take Chamberlain’s free-throws.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Or Shaq’s.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The real sissy move is having someone else hit for your pitcher.
by Every6thDay on Oct 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Texans clearly like the platoon. Probably want baseball to be as much like football as possible.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark your score zero
This is not the AL, this is the NL, there are rules.

Mark it zero!
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Both leagues did have the same rules
for over 70 years, then the AL changed theirs.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 29, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
"two teams of nine players each"
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
hilariously
The DH is actually an advantage for the AL, assuming they actually have a real hitter to play the position and don’t just use it as an off day.
Think about it – how much better do NL pitchers hit than AL pitchers? Not much. They both suck.
But it actually makes baseball sense for the Rangers to pay Vlad $15M/year to DH, while the Giants and other NL teams have some random series of bench players to lose. The 2010 Giants are actually pretty well suited to DH because they have Burrell/Shierholtz Panda/(Uribe/Rent) Huff/Ishikawa… but note that the hitter they bring on is not that good.
Another way to think about it – is that how much of your payroll gets to play on a given day, and can your team afford to carry an Aaron Rowand level salary for a DH. Well, bad example. But you get the idea.
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Well, he's right about one thing
It should be the same in both leagues.
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I thought about this argument for several seconds before realizing that I don’t care. At all.
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t the point of the DH/Non DH part of the strategy of the World Series? The NL has to adjust to using a DH and not having that “free” out in the 9 spot while the AL has to adjust to having the pitcher hit and find a way to get around that. Each team has a disadvantage but you’re in the World Series strategize and over come it.
Also, did the Rangers play any interleague games in NL parks this year? Did they not learn from that? Its not like this whole pitcher hitting thing snuck up on them.
by WilliamVanLaunchingpad on Oct 30, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if this has been posted but...
https://twitter.com/FakeTimMcCarver
I usually turn off the TV commentary and turn on KNBR, but this is great…
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
lol
NotTim McCarver
@FakeTimMcCarver NotTim McCarver
It seems to me, that excessive tweeting by @str8edgeracer has led to a blister on his finger, and ended his night early. In my opinion.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Oct 29, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
On a related note, here is my impression of Joe Morgan. That is, what I’m doing now is an impression of Joe Morgan. I’m adopting the mannerisms and style of speech of Joe Morgan for purposes of entertainment. Because an impression is just that, adopting the mannerisms and speech patterns of someone in a potentially comical way. See, when somebody acts like someone else, so as to amuse those around them, they’re doing an impression. Because that’s what an impression is- it’s when somebody acts like somebody else. For amusement. The amusement of doing an impression. Which is adopting another person’s mannerisms and speech. Usually done in an attempt to entertain others.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dave Concepcion did a fantastic impression of Joe Morgan. What was really impressive about his impression was his consistency, to be able to do it day-in and day-out.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Oct 29, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
day-in and day-out
I heard Joe Morgans voice when I read this
I learned the truth from Lenny Bruce (Bochy)
Tim McCarver here. Joe Morgan is like a ballet dancer, with sparkling shoes. Did you know Morgan is from Texas? They like football in Texas. I once saw a football game. Can you imagine a football game played by ballerinas? That would remind me a great deal of Joe Morgan.
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
not listening to him this year
but when he gets into what pitch should be thrown, and where, and what the batter is expecting, he can be very very interesting. He’s no good at killing time.
I remember last year he spent a solid half-inning talking about runners on second base. His point was that when runners on second try to distract the pitcher, they distract the hitter, too. The production truck got him some great shots and it was really insightful. He’s rarely insightful, though.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Agreed
Bad on TV. Not agreed: good on radio in World Series. Of course he’s more “feel” than statistics, so that becomes a matter of taste and trial-and-error.
just wanted to mention that CJ Wilson has a somewhat “inverted W” delivery. If you buy into that theory, Wilson is going to have some more serious injuries than the blisters.

Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Melbows
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Professional opinions . . .
. . . seem deeply divided on that theory; there is no middle ground.
Sabean delendum est!
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Not I.
The sheerly mechanical part of the game is occult to me. I feel like the fellow who can hear an off note in the third violin but couldn’t tell you which end of the bow the player holds.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
My sister nannies for Colby Lewis’ Agent. He has two daughters and another baby on the way.
This is really all I know about Lewis other than he had a pretty good season.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
My balls still hurt :(
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by jctGamer on Oct 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Idaho can be rough on a young man.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They have another 27 hours to recuperate.
Then you are back on the job.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/10/28/1781001/beat-texlas-ws-game-2-edition-thread-3#50581766
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Why o why did I click that link?
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 29, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Gold Bond do the trick?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe Girardi stepped in
and called in Mo to finish :(
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
A litle rosin never hurt anyone.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I am looking at the scoreboard at AT&T park, and it is dark
I hope it stays that way until April 2011
by capn on Oct 29, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jesus Mary and Joseph
Someone on KNBR just called in and said that Brian Wilson needs to start Game 3…because he throws strikes and Sanchez doesn’t. The only real drawback to the Giants winning is that it brings out stupid fans that have been watching for about 4 weeks.
/Turns radio off.
Your fault for listening to sports talk radio
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I’m just trying to soak all this up in every conceivable way. I barely remember the 2002 series. I’ve blocked it out of my memory.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That was pretty funny.
Fitz was like “Wilson? BRIAN WILSON?”
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I was listening to XM this morning for the lulz. A caller from Texas said Bam-Bam was a genius and teams looking for a manager should sign him immediately.
They could be Giants...but not really.
There’s BLB’s opening.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s funny was that the guy used Cody Ross as for Meulens’ brilliance. He was like, “When he was with the Marlins, he couldn’t hit. And now look at him! I tell ya, the Giants’ hitting coach is a genius!”
They could be Giants...but not really.
To be honest
He does appear to be pretty good.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Meulens?
On what metrics can we possibly base that?
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Cody Ross!
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
E6D please see me in my chambers.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Cody Ross!
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
No metrics whatsoever
But I don’t think the offense really responded to Lansford last year. You’re probably right in that it’s just new players, but Huff/Burrell/Uribe/and Torres’ resurgence is encouraging at least.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I think owlcroft was saying something earlier about nearly every hitter in our lineup’s BB rates being higher than their career rates
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--Daisy Owl
Walks. Bases on balls. Oh, and also walks.
Projections from career stats, when amalgamated at the team level, are usually quite predictive. The Giants in 2010 racked up over five dozen more walks (62) than would have been expected. It was an improvement noticeable across a good number of batters, from Huff to FSanchez to Uribe.
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Renteria can, and probably should . . .
. . . have a long and satisfactory career as a coach and, not too far down the line, manager. Or so many people who know him say.
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FP was hanging up on these last night
Their screeners are really not keeping up with success.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I always wonder
with the truly stupid ideas like that one…is it sincere or just someone’s idea of a joke?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Heh, someone else just said we might as well start Steph Curry.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Mathematically
Makes just as much sense to have him get 3 outs at the beginning of the game as it does the 3 at the end.
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Actually, very much so. If you had a couple of guys with closer-quality stuff who could each start twice a week and get 6 outs, you’d have a significant advantage with an average offense. Keeping the other team off the board for two innings is semi-huge. Doing that also allows the “real” starter to settle in against the bottom of the order.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
That idea . . .
. . . is at least 46 years old (Earnshaw Cook’s Percentage Baseball). The way Cook figured it, let pitcher #1 go till his turn to bat, the pinch hit; let pitcher #2 go till his second turn to bat, then pinch hit; if pitcher #3 comes up to bat, again pinch hit. In the AL, it is (like almost everything) much less complex: pitcher #1 goes once through the lineup; pitcher #2 goes twice through the lineup; pitcher #3 goes once through the lineup. There will usually be a few more BFP to deal with, which can involve a pitcher #4, of just extending #3, depending on game circumstances.
I suggested that to the A’s many years ago, and Sandy Alderson (then the GM) thought it might be something to start exploring at the minor-league level. I don’t know the connection, but a couple of years later, the A’s began using, at the Class A level, a modified version (which I had also discussed)—one since picked up by some other clubs—involving 8 pitchers each used as a sort of “half starter” on a four-day rotation. Pitcher #1 begins the game and goes five innings, then pitcher #2 comes in and finished the game; four days later, they repeat but with switched roles. The idea was attributed to Karl Kuehl (then head of player development for the A’s), but I have my own ideas about that.
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It really depends on whether you can locate enough arms to give you up to 3 innings at a stretch and be effective, or whether you can develop this as a training pattern that is physically sustainable for a full season. I have my doubts that it can be done, but I do think that a guy can go all out for 3 innings every third day. There’s enough literature out there to support the notion of starters being able to go every third day.
One problem in making this happen is the institutional momentum and big paydays built around traditional stats: wins and saves. You’d have a problem attracting established pitchers to participate in such a scheme. Then again if you’re trying it with young arms, given you need to build the training regimen for it, committing to it might allow you to heavily weight the payroll toward bats and gloves.
The other benefit of course is that it ruins the opposing manager’s platooning if you have a staff equally divided between left- and right-handers. The overall effect might be to quickly escalate the pay scale for switch hitters if multiple clubs adopted that approach to pitching.
I’d like to see it tried. Although I put forth the “every third day” model above which would seem to ask for 12 pitchers, you might be able to do it with an 11-man staff. That leaves room for 14 hitters, which probably breaks out as 6 every day guys, 2 platoons, a backup catcher and the three PH specialists who I presume you’d want to be high OBP types.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess . . .
. . . is that the two-inning (or so) guys could go at least every third day, and maybe every second day. I’ve asked a lot of people, from Will Carroll on, about that, and never gotten anything close to a meaningful answer.
In the worst case, the non-reliever staff is 10: four five-inning guys every fourth day and three pairs of two-inning guys; in the best case, it’s 8, four five-inning guys and two pairs of two-inning guys.
Tango et al, in The Book, sort of pooh-poohed the idea of starters on a four-man rotation, but the crucial difference is that here we’re talking about definitely limited workloads per start: either 18 batters or 5 innings max, depending on which pattern one is trying to follow. At present, the average starter goes 6.0 IP a start (down from 6.1 IP not so very long ago); over 20 games, such a man goes 4 times and throws, on average, 24 IP. Using four men with a restriction of, say, 5 IP an outing has each man going 5 times and throwing 25 IP total. If the load is held to twice through the lineup, 18 men, it is more like only 20 IP. None of that seems any unreasonable strain compared to the current method.
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Very interesting
Apropos of nothing – saw today the interview you gave with ESPN about Alderson. Very interesting and illuminating – I look forward to the duels in the coming years between Alderson and the embodiment of baseball ludditry in Amaro Jr.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Thank you.
I can say that in a long string of interviews over the years, that was one of the few that got things both substantially correct and substantially representative of my thoughts.
What was slightly creepy is that in side conversation, it turned out that the reporter, who has been around sports for quite a while (10 years at the Daily News before ESPN), is the son of a man who went to my high school after me. Well, one of the Ten Rules for a Happy Life is Satchel Paige’s “Never look back: something might be gaining on you.”
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It was good
I read it and was shocked at how exquisitely similar to everything I’ve come to expect from your posts here. I was a little surprised they didn’t figure out a way to make it into a “FORMER ADVISOR SAYS ALDERSON HATES BASEBALL” or somesuch nonsense.
Glad to see you get a bit of your due – but, come on, couldn’t get in a plug for McC? I saw some subtle hints in your responses (“I follow the Giants rather closely…”), but did you not want to admit the full extent of your nerddom?
=)
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Wasn't it because they had too many pitchers to develop?
If I remember this, correctly, one of the reasons was to get more pitchers more innings.
Rather than having 5 starting pitchers and a bunch of 1-2 inning relievers on your A club, you could have 8 starting pitchers on a 4 day rotation this way. It allowed you to get your young pitchers more overall innings and more development. Eventually, they’d move up into AA or AAA ball and start specializing as 5-day starters or 1-2 inning relievers, but for low-A or high-A ball, everyone’s a “starter.”
Certainly that's what they said.
And it could be so. But there’s no reason they could not, by AA level, sort them into 5-inning starters and 2-inning “relievers”, as well as more conventional “intervention” (1-inning and “fireman”) relievers. And then up to AAA, and if everything still looks ok after a season or three—nobody’s arm falling off or anything—try it at the big-club level. Maybe the Yankees or the Dodgers aren’t going to be first, but if you’re, say, the Pirates, why not try it?
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AT&T'D
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Here

anyone know of any other funny moments in game 1 or 2 that should be gif’ed lemme know.
by saint.dee on Oct 29, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huff tags Kinsler
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
How about a image of Gandalf and saying YOU CANNOT PASS!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
An open letter to Peter Jackson.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Sorta OT: Aubrey Huff
On Fangraphs they were doing Contract Crowdsourcing for 1B next year. I suggested Huff at 2 years, 14 million. Anything disagree with that?
No issues with amount or years
Let Burrell retire —> Resign Uribe and pickup some shortstop via free agency —> Make Pablo fight his way back into a starting gig.
way low
Not that he has any chance of replicating his 2010 in 2011 or beyond, but his 5.7 WAR would be worth $22M in free agency. So i doubt he signs for $7M a year, or for a 2-year deal at all.
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Hmm, I thought it was pretty fair considering he’ll be 34 next year. Probably right though.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess is he’ll want to stay here.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you're right
But I don’t see him doing it for $7M a year.
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I really don’t think Sabean will offer Huff a three year deal. Maybe a team option (or vesting option) after the second
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Huff but with his age and tendency to have up and down type seasons, I really hope management doesn’t fork over that much.
I dunno
2/14 sounds like it’s about right.
After all, here’s his numbers in the last 2 years: .266/.349/.447, 4.3 WAR. That’s pretty average over a 2 year period for a 1B.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I put down 2/12
and he was the only 1B i had (in that group) getting more than 1 year. I really hope we do 1 yr + option deal with him though
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
"Not that he has any chance of replicating his 2010 in 2011 or beyond . . ."
Why not?
All that was really different in 2010 from his career line was the walks, in which category he—like several other Giants after Meulens came in—was sharply up over his norms; but in everything else he was right in line. His H/PA was actually below career, and all his XBH categories were almost bang on his norms. But increased BBs means diminished ABs for the same number of PAs, so it looks as if his BA jumped; but actual, countable hits were in fact a hair down (165 vs 170 expected). In short, he did not have any miracle year, he just walked a lot more than he has before—with an arguably good, clear cause.
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Well, perhaps I overstated my point. Of course he has a chance of repeating his 2010 production. And if he does, I’ll eat my hat.
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mmmm....straw hat
/drools
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pshaw
we all know that your wife wears the hat in the family
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by DrStankus on Oct 29, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He has a hat made out of pancakes.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Which part of his production do you doubt?
Let me repeat this: his 2010 output was just about exactly what one would have expected from his total career to date, excepting the increased walks total. No stat—no stat—was, in count numbers, nontrivially different except BBs (and, consequently, ABs). Are you arguing that his increased walks rate is an unsustainable fluke? If so, you are in disagreement with the consensus of the literature. If not, what, then, are you assuming will deteriorate so much?
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Looks like you were much closer than I was
Crowdsourcing results came in at about 2yr/16M
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No problem with the money or years, but you need to make sure he’s happy with going back to the outfield and healthy enough to do it every day.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Just so.
Though I doubt Belt will be ready till at least mid-season (assuming Belt is not an over-hype).
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Not thinking Belt specifically, but if there’s a 1-year stopgap first baseman available as a F/A, whether as a full-time player or as the RHB part of a platoon with Ishikawa…
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Did the Giants leave town last night or this morning?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions
last night, i think
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This morning around 10.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Kruk said they were leaving today on the radio .
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They really should leave on a plane
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
mwahahahahha
also, i am wrong.
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dangling modifiers
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
hawt
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL KNBR CALLER
So this “pennant” thing… who makes it? Does it get delivered, or do the Giants have to go get it? Will it be on display somewhere for the public?
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Glee fans who leave their TV on Fox.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
"Do the Giants have to go get it?"
It’s in a locked vault, with pressure-sensitive flooring and heat and movement sensors in the walls. It can be reached only through a 2"-wide access corridor flushed every 15 seconds by cold carbon monoxide. To get there, you have to get the key code that opens the doors, slip past the guards down the staircase around the corner past the fake vault to the second set of doors which require both thumbprint AND retina scan identification. Once that’s done, hacking the computer to get the elevator to lower you from the ground level five hundred feet to the vault level should be relatively easy.
I think Cain can do it, but we’ll need a greaseman.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
OT: Should Cain have hit in the 7th?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/should-cain-have-been-pulled-for-a-pinch-hitter/
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
What?
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I did, and it makes sense, it’s just the last thing I would think about after that game.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually mentioned that Cain should probably be pulled at the time, but had completely forgotten about that until now.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I think you were quite right.
But it’s all spilt milk over the dam, or whatever, now. As Dave Bristol once remarked to me, “Winnin’ cures a lotta sins.”
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..

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on Oct 29, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
This
So much this.
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by Giant Torture on Oct 29, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
dunno
people who are interested in baseball, or baseball strategy?
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"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
I fit into both of those categories,
and I could really care less, there is not much merit in discussing it now. What happened has happened.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
you could care less? so you care some?
The article isn’t an indictment of a move made or not made by Sabean, it’s simply a musing on the strategy surrounding it. I found merit in it as a discussion of strategy. This situation, or one very much like it, will come around again. That’s part of the beauty of the game, to me. That’s why i find these discussions interesting.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
Good point. We have more important things to discuss.
Take Justin Bieber, for example…
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
I am so saddened Fox is allowing him to hijack part of a World Series Broadcast.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Why not?
They’ve hijacked all of it, right through. Why change now? I’m sure they dearly wish MLB would let them show mini-concerts and bad-show promos continuously through the broadcast, instead of that dull, boring baseball stuff. But at least they get the occasional drooling-fat-baby shot to liven up viewer interest.
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You cared enough to post a big freakin' pic
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
it made me laugh.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Insanity continues for me. BFVCE is having his clarinet recital tomorrow. I am catering the reception. I had another chef and a server to help me out. The chef had a root canal this week and my server is stuck in Sacramento for the weekend. Now I’m soloing on 36 servings of several dishes. Packing up the utensils and other things I need just for prep is quite intimidating. There’s just so much shit needed to create this large amount of food. Haven’t even been to the grocery to get the actual ingredients yet. :/
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions
Fuck it.
Grilled cheese with tomato soup fountain.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
That’s classy! NGL though, I’d be very happy with both things to eat.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, what a punk.
I got a root canal, and was back at work THAT AFTERNOON.
Tell the chef to get off his ass and get to work.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Hey scout, grab an apron and the chicken. I need a deboner.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that last word wrong.
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by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, the chicken threw you off. I need to pick up six pounds of cock this afternoon.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
/joke about me being your man.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
BFVCE does not approve.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Ouch, my pride.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Jose Guillen
Does anyone else break into a cold sweat knowing that he might have started over Cody Ross except for this little drug scandal?
HGH: still helping the Giants win games, just in a funny kind of way.
It was fools hope
To think that the Giants believed Cody Ross was a superior player.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted to believe
that the arrival of the playoffs turned Bochy into a lineup genius. Hmm. But in his defense, he hasn’t started Rowand yet…
He started Rowand against Hamels in the NLCS
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
true.
Forgot about that one. Looks like he got a hit too. He also started against Blanton, but that didn’t last long.
Actually, I’m not completely afraid of Rowand right now. I bring him up only as an example of “veterans with a dismal track record.” Like Guillen.
You know, Rowand might be hot right now. To his credit, he
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree with this comment
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Reply fails happen to the best of us. I always make fun of myself when I do it. I had a pretty bad one with a photo yesterday. I didn’t code the HTML for it in my original post so it didn’t show up. I reply failed the photo below the original post in a new subthread. lol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Reply fails happen when the attempt at a reply doesn’t match up with the original post, thus resulting in a “fail” in the reply attempt. This can happen when the replying party isn’t in a position to reply resulting in a “fail”.
In my opinion.
The question is who Guillen might have displaced . . .
. . . both on the roster and in the lineup. I strongly suspect that on the roster, it would have been Rowand, which is no great harm. But in the lineup? I suspect it all worked out for the best.
Sidebar: I have seen nothing whatever to give the least clue as to whether the imputed hGH trafficking occurred last month or five or ten years ago. There seems to be an implicit assumption that all this supposedly happened days or weeks ago, contemporaneous with the telephone calls about it, but knowing the Javerts of the DoJ, it might well be something that happened many years ago. That’s not critical to anything right now (except if you’re Jose Guillen), but it would be interesting to know. It is also the case (apparently) that so far all that’s going down is “investigation”, with no charges actual or—again, apparently—pending. The playout here will be interesting to watch. If it ends up with Guillen not both charged with and convicted of an actual crime, I’d reckon (speaking as a layman) that he’d have a decent lawsuit against at least MLB, even if the DoJ has soverign immunity.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Rangers' fans (like Philly fans) can't figure out how they are leaving so many RISP.
Here’s a hint: The Giants led MLB in strand rate this year. Go ahead and lament your team’s ability to drive in a guy from 2nd with one out, but realize it’s not all their fault. The Giants are just really, really good at not letting guys that get on base come in to score.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
Thanks to Lookout Landing for this:

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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Giants use Cain, Rangers blow.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What was Baggs' rejected headline?
“Texas Cain-Saw Massacre?”
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You know, in 10 years time, we could be looking at headlines like
Derek LOL-land gives up 7 runs in 8th
OMG CAIN FTW
by Murray, Present on Oct 29, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
texas cain-saw massacre!
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 29, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They should take lessons from this guy
Cain Matt Cain caintrol the Rockies? When the Giants decided they were going to be raising Cain from the minors, they had just one question: is Cain able? Even the most caintankerous of fans cain’t deny the cainticipation of tonight’s start. Hopefully, Cain will get ahead in the caint early and cainoften, caining the caintdown that cain cain cain.
Cain.
They could be Giants...but not really.
What guy?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Great quote from DeRosa about offense being overblown in the playoffs
“I remember I was in the playoffs with the Braves and we had one of the best offenses ever — the best offense I ever was part of,” he said. “Then we faced the Cubs in the playoffs. We faced Kerry Wood and Mark Prior and those guys. If the pitchers are throwing bullets, you’re going home. And we did.”
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
I like this man
i hope he’s healthy and makes a contribution next year.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that series. Kerry Wood beat the Braves almost by himself. I think he even had a good series at the plate.
by non sequitur on Oct 29, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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by satyricrash on Oct 29, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Not enough chairs?
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Nice. I always try to get a shot of them but I never have a good angle.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how uptight Flem seems
Lean forward, dude!
I love David B, he’s really one of my favorites. I love Kruk and Kuip but they are very different from Jon and Dave. I think I enjoy Jon and Dave a bit more just because I think they work so so well together, and Kruk and Kuip are also perfect for each other.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
My Game 2 Wrapup

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by ZenPop on Oct 29, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 22 recs
Damn
That is some fucking good work there. Rec’d
"I ain't havin it!"
Eh.
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Great touch on the eyes.
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good work
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 29, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s close enough to make you feel like you’re on peyote
What does that feel like?
HE SAID NEVER
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Haters gonna hate
Comment on Athletics Nation:
I hate the Giants. I hate their attitude, I hate the kinds of players they go gaga for (Will Clark, Matt Williams, Buster Posey), I hate their colors, I hate their ballpark, I hate their parade of stupid managers, I hate Sabean, I hate Kruk and Kuip (I have to say that again – I HATE KRUK AND KUIP), I hate Jon Miller, I hate that now we have a Kuip, I hate their no-name unis, I hate Renell, I hate "There’s Magic Inside", I hate Lou Seal, Crazy Crab and Kung Fu Panda Express, I hate that they are #7 in payroll, I hate the NL and the F$#@kin "No DH" arguments, I hate their superiority, I hate garlic fries and I hate the stupid kayaks in McCovey Cove. I just hate them so much.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
by El Person on Oct 29, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
he's an Oakland fan
life is hard enough.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Oct 29, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate their superiority
at least he recognizes it!
In awe of his adopted dad: equipment manager Mike Murphy, who has been with the club since their move to San Francisco in 1958!
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 29, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Hate garlic fries? Now they’ve gone too far over there. As a Gilroy native, I take great offense.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
I’ve always found that the Oakland park has the superior garlic, but the SF one gives you more fries (and the free sauerkraut only sweetens the deal).
Oakland's food
is terrible. I’ve never had a chance to eat on their little club level, but the general lower bowl food is awful.
Petco Park garlic fries are good because they give you like 3x what they do at Pac Bell for the same price.
My friend had “club” seats there a few years ago, it was actually really good. I haven’t spent enough time in either park’s club level to compare, but Oakland’s was legit.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That's cool.
I’ve always wanted to eat up there, but the only time i go to the Oakland Coliseum is when they Play the Giants, Opening Night, or if i get free tickets, so it hasn’t really come to fruition.
Dollar Dog Wednesdays is badass though. I don’t eat hot dogs anymore, but that was like a holiday when I was growing up.
oh, forgot about those.
Yeah i go to a couple of those a year if it’s against someone interesting like the Twins. Can’t beat 2 dollar tickets.
Petco’s Garlic Fries don’t taste nearly as well, though.
Also, do they still only sell the fries at the Gordon Biersch stands? Or am I misremembering.? Last time I was there was 2003.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
At Petco
Can’t remember. I had club level seats for Bonds 755 and they were delivered. Also went to another game vs giants where i think i just got them at the regular “Friar Food” stand or whatever.
I thought they tasted pretty good though, they are no Pac Bell fries, but way better than Oakland. Also, i heard that Yankee Stadium does Garlic fries? is it a national thing now? i thought it was only CA.
Sorry, he second part I was referring to Mays Field.
The Petco fries are sold at the Ruby’s stands.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh.
I think the stands are called “Gilroy Garlic Fries” at Pac Bell, but you can also get them at the Derby Grill stands. They still have a gordon biersch container though.
.
Maybe that was at Candestick then… I dunno.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I never understood this. What is the difference between “F$#@kin” and “Fucking”? Seems kind of stupid to ban cursing but to allow “censored” cursing.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
HE HATES OUR OPENLY CURSING
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m quite honestly perplexed why cursing in general is so taboo.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So you can have taboo words to use for extra emphasis.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate their no-name unis
Don’t hate b/c we know our players names. BTW the have names on the road.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the best way of doing it, I think. No-name is prettier, but away fans shouldn’t be expected to know the players.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
National league rule is roads have to have names on back.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I love the classic home cream threads with no names on the back. It’s v. throwbacky.
And I guess now is the best time to do this. I have to come out to you guys. I scored a spot blogging on Rob Neyer’s Sweet Spot Blog Network on ESPN.com. I’m working with another writer on an A’s blog, where I will contribute a lot of minor league stuff. When I go to DR next year, I will report from the A’s facility there in Santo Domingo if I can.
I know Senor Neyer hasn’t been the most popular person around here lately. And the A’s fans aren’t doing their best to look good either.
But hey, Neyer is another name I can add to my name-dropping list and saying I have stuff on ESPN.com will help me get a job in the mindless MSM. Then I can change things…right?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 14 recs
Awesome, Baron.
Don’t forget us little people when you move to Bristol, OK?
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Thank you sir
I was kinda scared to say anything here but eventually I’d be found out.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
wow. wow. That is fucking awesome! Congrats!
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Nice.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I see what you did there.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
So awesome
I still love Neyer, even though he’s “sooooooo anti-Giants”, or whatever. Congrats!
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Thanks you guys. I am glad you can accept me even when I stray from the Giants. Fear not, for I am still with SF Dugout and I expect MiLB to renew my contract for 2011 too.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 29, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait
/reads again
The A’s? Rob Neyer? Screw you!
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
I like Neyer a whole lot
And that’s awesome! I look forward to reading your stuff.
Are you the one who has to reboot xanathan now?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Awesome!
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations!
That is so awesome, Baron. I’m really happy for you! Now just find that xanthan guy and tell him to come here more often. I miss computer.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
outstanding
and congrats on the DR stuff, I wasn’t around when you decided/arranged I guess.
As long as AN never finds out, you’re golden. You’re like a reverse Miyaechaeeal Urban that can write.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This post reminds me of that one douche that was here for a while
who tried to insult you by insinuating you went to Heald or something. LOL that guy
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
CONGRATS!
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Check it out: You got away with "READ MY BLOG!" and got nothing but congratulations!
Well played. (And never forget your roots, or we’ll banhammer you, or something…)
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Congrats!
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Grab it with both hands and run.
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Congratulations, and best wishes for your career.
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Congrats Baron!
Very very awesome.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Yay Baron!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You know I would have feelings about this,
but I am too preoccupied with my team being in the world series.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I appreciate honest, hateful bile
from fans of other teams. I mean, I know I have felt similar illogical hatred for the As and their quirks, like taking pitches and competing with null payrolls and winning world series’ and shit…aslkhhl;as;oijha;
GAHHHH NOW HULK ANGRY!!!
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1990?
I mean, I guess. But not really.
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Yeah, I never really cared about the A’s. If anything I was actually happy that they were able to sell out…1/2 the stadium.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
TARP
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Eh, some of the things in there are worth hating. Like the Crazy Crab. Hating the Crazy Crab is what you’re supposed to do.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I know! I don’t even get the hatred for “the kinds of players they go gaga for.” What, good players? I guess you can enjoy Mark Ellis and Langdon Powell.
by Murray, Present on Oct 29, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If you read between the lines, you can tell this poster doesn’t like the Giants.
by non sequitur on Oct 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Reading between the lines involves looking at what was said and judging it by how those words were said. Sometimes people don’t always say what they mean and so you have to read between the lines to figure out the truth. It takes a perceptive person to do this sometimes, but in my opinion, people do this all the time. In my opinion.
Pure goddamn poetry
FUCK. THOSE. ASSWIPES. TASTE IT, DICKS.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Splendid!
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Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Courtesy of Tosh.0:
I hate guys that call me chief. I hate anyone who is staging a rally to save the TV show chuck. I hate people that breathe heavily… I can hear you breathing… that is not good. I hate breakfast… there’s too many things going on in the morning to eat. I hate when people in coach sneak up and use the first class restroom. I hate when people tape things to the wall… if you’re not going to properly frame it, its probably not wall worthy. I hate handicapped parking spots… why do you get to park so close? I hate fruit on the bottom of yogurt… mix that shit up. I hate the guy who sneaks a beach ball into a concert…. really? A beach ball?… good call loser. I hate when there are nuts in my chocolate chip cookies… you don’t need to “healthy up” my dessert. I hate that gay men are the only ones that are allowed to wave with two hands… it’s fun.
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"I want to hug Uribe. I want to hug Posey. I want to hug everyone." - Torres
"It's gonna get weird tonight." - Huff
I'm fine with fans of other teams hating the Giants team.
Lord knows I hate my share of sports teams.
The only thing that’s WTF? is his/her hate for Kruk/Kuip. They’re great by any measure.
"Thank you, Coach (Theus). I'm about to kill y'all this half." --DeMarcus Cousins
that's what's REALLY fucked up
somebody whose announcer is RAY FUCKING FOSSE is hating on another team’s guy. Wow.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Also
Jealous they don’t have the good Kuiper.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
AN is fucking weird.
SO much hatred spewed toward us in the name of our superiority (which I never see unless they start being dicks to us), yet every A’s fan I know IRL is digging out whatever scraps of orange clothing they have for this week.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw you there a couple of weeks ago. What ended up happening in that discussion?
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
The weenie who posted the fanpost deleted the whole thing. 600+ comments deleted because I dared try to have a reasonable discussion (well, that and bondlegend started trolling).
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s too bad. A few people were being reasonable to you, and I enjoyed reading that.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
Yeah, I have no particular ill will toward the A’s, and I love Oakland, so… why would I be a dick? But a good chunk of them on AN took my not-being-a-dick as condescension, and several AN posters pointed out how unreasonable they were being and just got yelled at, too. :shrug:
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything is condescending when you choose to interpret it as such. There’s a lot of confirmation bias that goes on over there.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
Jebus.
I’ve just stopped patronizing a few local places I love because I can’t stand going into my favorite restaurant or coffee shop and seeing orange and black painted all over everything for non-Halloween purposes.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
hint
maybe all the places you love think you’re a self-obsessed dumbass.
And LOL halloween!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY
I admit I kind of was, but all I was really saying is “wtf why do you guys hate us, we don’t give a shit about the As, and if anything we ROOT for you”
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
You also posted a huge sparkly .gif of the word “schadenfreude.”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
it's German for Cody Ross
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
well
in my defense, the post WAS kind of douchey. But yes, I agree. That was unnecessary and below what a decent fan would do.
BUT I COULDN’T HELP MYSELF
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
And
it wasn’t a gif, just a picture
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
in my defense, the post WAS kind of douchey.
Look, your honor, in my defense, I DID kill the guy.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
not MY post!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
What sad....
Is that actually happens….
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Oct 29, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno
AN is really turning me off to the A’s, and Lookout Landing has been so cool and supportive. I’m probably switching to the Mariners as my AL team next year.
by Murray, Present on Oct 29, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
this is exactly what happened to me
although I’d extend it to every online A’s presence I’ve encountered, and two Athletic Supporters at Yankee Stadium during the ALDS. You came from the East Bay to sit and talk about the A’s to each other? About how great the A’s are?
Fortunately, the video flashback that night was SLIDE JEREMY SLIDE!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You came from the East Bay to sit and talk about the A’s to each other?
:shrug: I’m sure if I were at some other game with a fellow Giants fan, our conversation would naturally become fairly Giants-specific.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
not this way, at all
I’m talking about loud, YANKEES SUCK GIANTS SUCK DALLAS BRADEN IS TEH AWESOME AS HAVE 5 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS for the entire game, at least until the Jeremy filmstrip and Enter Sandman. And not once a “yay Twins” or even a “nice play”, or even “boo Yankees” or “drop it Jeter”. It’s not “some other game”, it’s a playoff game.
It was pretty much exactly like reading from AN. Very weird, and like I say pretty much the last straw for me with green-and-gold bleeders. The Giants had utterly nothing to do with this game, and here we are in Yankee Stadium listening to some EAST BAY REPRESENTIN butthole who I’m pretty sure has never been anywhere in Oakland outside the Colosseum (sic).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
67MARQUEZ: I see that your avatar is Charlie Brown. I can’t help but notice the irony in that. But to be fair, I’ll allow you this: if the A’s were a Peanuts character, who would they be, and why?
Grant: Violet. Nobody cares or pays attention to her, but for some reason she’s a total jerk to Charlie Brown.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
by El Person on Oct 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 13 recs
Hahaha
Fantastic. Is there a link to this interview?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Here we go.
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2009/6/22/921708/open-thread-as-vs-giants-some
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
And why is a Charlie Brown avatar ironic for a Giants fan?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, please keep hitting.
Game 6?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
ICONIC
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
HA HA HA HA
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
20+ years of complete irrelevancy
Will do that to a fanbase. Ask the Dodgers.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
Uh, the Dodgers were in the NLCS the last two years.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm aware.
I just prefer to think of them as irrelevant since they couldn’t win the Pennant. I’m know this line of thinking is flawed, but the EFF THE DODGERS part of my brain overwhelms the logic circuits.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
Oh yeah, I’m with you there. I just don’t like when someone says “_ sucks” or something along those lines when they demonstrably don’t. The obvious example being Boston’s “Yankee suck” chant.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
But the Yankees do demonstrably suck.
Not necessarily on the field, but they suck from a number of perspectives.
And the Dodgers sucked in both of those NLCS.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
The Yankees really suck at being the not-Yankees.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
IKR?
I’d totally cheer for them more often if they could improve their Not-Yankeeness.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He sure knows a lot about us.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He should take up pottery or gardening. Time to quit baseball
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"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 29, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
IT'S A TARP!!!
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
“I felt a Giant disturbance in the Series, as if millions of Texans suddenly cried out in despair and were suddenly silenced. I think something wonderful has happened.”
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
this person appears to be a bit perturbed
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
OT: On Baggs Live Chat
Alex Pavlovic (spelling?) said they would likely DH Huff while using Ishi at 1B, at least once in the series. I would prefer to have Rowand or Sandoval DH and keep Ishi as a pinch hitter.
in this line
but I hope to see Pablo take some hacks in TX.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Sort of OT, kind of not really
With all these references to hitter’s ballparks and pitcher’s ballparks during the playoffs and blah blah blah, I am curious: which stadium(s) are considered, more or less, neutral ballparks? Either by the stats (if someone can link me to a page/website with ballpark-related statistics, that would be awesome) or just your opinion. I’d love to know
Baseball-reference has park factor data. Go to the page for each individual team and you can see it.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
Interesting
Per Baseball-reference: Dodgers Stadium – Shit Hole
I'm numb to fear or expectations or anything, really
there’s no point. This Giants team seems nearly fucking invincible right now, and even if they aren’t, there’s no rhyme or reason to anything they’ve done. They’ve dominated good pitchers, they’ve been dominated by good pitchers. They haven’t really faced any crappy pitchers, but when they have they’ve done pretty well against them.
NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
agreed
just gotta enjoy the ride.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
yep
especially after the first two games. This season has 04 sawx/05 chisox feel to it. Team that had been fucked over for so long, but for some reason they’re finally getting the breaks.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
None of it makes sense
You can say that again. The Giants offense last night = Renteria, Rowand, and a bunch of walks.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
The Claw.
So, was that the first no out double in a tie game for the Rangers that didn’t get the claw this year?
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 29, 2010 2:27 PM PDT reply actions
THE CLAW! IT HELPS TEAM CHEMISTRY!!!!!!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Dish may be the next provider losing FOX coverage.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Crazy thing is that the contract expires on 10/31 so it could affect the WS for those with Dish Network.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
But what about the sheep?
Actually, I don’t like sheep. They’re smelly and mean. So fuck NewsCorp and all their sheep.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
what the actual fuck
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
Music after these at bats.
It was played after Posey got a single of Lee in the 3rd of game 1, after ross hit a double off Halladay in the 4th in game 5 of the NLCS, and when Sandoval hit a double of Durbin in the 6th of game 4 of the NLCS I’m sorry if this was already asked. I really want to know where this music is from.
Here is a link to the Sandoval at bat where he got a double off Durbin in game 4, the music plays after his hit.
Just say NO to free agents, they take your draft picks.
link fail
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12884305
Just say NO to free agents, they take your draft picks.
i can't really hear it :/
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, who's mind is currently elsewhere
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/mentions fantasy baseball team
is it “I Like It” by Enrique
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 29, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s from a remix of the David Guetta song “Sexy Bitch” I don’t know what remix but you can tell in the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo_7bhk1UzA
FF to 1:18
no it's not
same chord progression, but it’s a different song
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Same Question- name that tune
Somebody, please.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
So the frontpage post on LSB is an LL Cool J video.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Goin back to Cali? No, I don’t think so.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 29, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hey LSB if you're reading this.
Mama said knock you out
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
Different artist but I think it’s “Slap my Rangers up” time.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that a return to AT&T is practically the worst thing that can happen in this Series.
God forbid, even if they completely own us on their home turf, we’d still finish out in SF. Given the last two games, I wouldn’t mind it so much if it came to that.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I don’t think you understand the joke.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
really touchy
Apparently, at LSB, if you make a post that is even slightly contrary to something they posted, or just make any post over there when you’re from MCC, you’re immediately branded as a troll.
LSB is inhabited by Texans. Having lived in Texas for 9 years (well it was only 7 months but it felt like 9 years) I can say that in general they think Texas is the greatest place in the world,
And compared to Tijuana, Mexico and Eastern Louisiana, they are correct.
Consider the Dallas crime rate for a minute, http://www.dallascrime.com/
With a population of such criminals, is it any wonder that LSB is full of hateful, annoying douchebags? I think not.
Consider the weather in Dallas. Here is a chart of monthly average temperatures: http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USTX0327
In comparison, here’s the chart for San Francisco: http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCA0987
Is it any wonder that LSB is full of hateful, annoying douchebags? I think not.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The weather and the barbecue are two reasons I love living in the Southeast.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
living in Tallahassee now, I feel qualified to say
You’re fucking nuts.
About the weather, I mean. I often hear about people who live in the South or Florida for the climate. I will never, ever, ever understand this.
/just felt like he was going to die from sweat walking half a mile across campus a few days ago. IN LATE OCTOBER.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
And in Tallahasse, there’s a good barbecue place, but I don’t like it as much as our old place in Oakland. :(
We did get some excellent barbecue in Mobile, though, while driving to New Orleans back in May.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
That old place in Oakland
Texas, Oklahoma, or Louisiana BBQ?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
I’m not really an expert on barbecue, but my recollection is that the proprietor said her recipe was a mix of a couple of different styles.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Or Carolina, or Kansas City?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Carolina BBQ is my personal favorite. Mustard and vinegar-based sauces for the win!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I do like a nice mustardy BBQ sauce…
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
NY fans never disappoint
Are there five players in baseball you would trade Phil Hughes for?
Yes. Josh Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Matt Cain, Adam Wainwright and Jon Lester
They could be Giants...but not really.
People in San Francisco are so dumb. – Jeff Kent
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah ha ha ha ha
Coming from a guy who lives in Texas ON PURPOSE!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
"Hey watch me pop a wheelie....FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffuuuu..."
by younghutch on Oct 30, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for making me laugh out loud in real life.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Morons.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
BTW
I hope you’re aware that when Lincecum came up to the Giants his rookie year, it was also Hughes’ rookie year. NY Yankee fans said they wouldn’t trade him for Lincecum either.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
/shift-A
Oh, joy. I got Chopped in class again.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 3:07 PM PDT reply actions
You were in a class after it had ended?
Hopefully you weren’t too late to your next class
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I was in class from 11-1. Then I had lunch with some friends and didn’t get back on the computer until, like, 2:30.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Shit, I just realized the chasm.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
This is what happens when I run on little to no sleep.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea what sleep is.
I guess the plus of a 5 hour road trip is being able to crash for a few hours.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL. Thankfully, I’m not driving.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 29, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I didn't crash until like 4 last night
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
OT: OMG Letter! I just read your email!
Amazing. I’ve never actually read porn before so I feel kinda dirty, but in a good way. I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve already shared this with the roommates and a couple of a friends. Thus far, there is unanimous consensus that 1) that was HAWT 2) you’re a great writer 3) a sequel at Shierholtz places is necessary
And I absolutely can’t get over Cain’s reaction. I love Matt Cain.
Welcome to McCovey Chronicles: Calm down
From now on, every day is Thong Thursday!
"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
OT: OMG LARS WHERE ARE YOU
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
You know what's cool
If you go to the chronicle website, and scroll down a bit, you get to their “most read” stories section.
Every one of them is about the giants.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Shape editor apologizes to LeAnn Rimes!
stay classy, SFGate readers!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I found my Photoshop Install disc and I give you this

"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
by Gloff on Oct 29, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
OMG...
Epic text fail.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
I fixed it but the cache hasn't
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
My first Green rec!
yay my photoshop skills have not gone to waste
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
Getting in on the fun
This is a day late but who cares

by furikawari on Oct 29, 2010 3:56 PM PDT reply actions 9 recs
/deserving
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
I kinda like Comic Sans.
You want something else, I’ll put it up here.
Depends on where you were gesturing when you said ‘I’ll put it up here’.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that the Deal With it 'Stache?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
nice
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
In actual Giants news, Bochy said he won’t DH Pat Burrell tmrw. Strongly hinted Huff at DH and Ishikawa 1t 1B, although Pablo is option too.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I feel like Huff has been picking a fine 1B. He had an error, but his range seems fine and errors happen occasionally. Panda seems to offer more upside as the DH against a RHP in lolabandbox.
Honestly, I'd rather see Ishi get some regular ABs in Texas
he could really rope one into the RF seats with the sink lewis has, Ishi has a mean uppercut, I swear his homers are all golf swings
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
yeah
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10757973
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
Also this beauty
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7303343
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
I guess if Bochy has the sense to sit Renteria, play Panda and Uribe as 3b/SS, then DH Huff with Ishi 1B, we got something going. But after Rent’s night, I’m not sure that will happen, platoon splits be damned.
Renteria is doing fine
Above average right now, although, I do agree that against a RHP Sandoval’s LH batting could be of great use in TexLAs
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
I would not be adverse to a Huff DHing
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
Ugh
Why isn’t Pablo number 1 on the DH list? His explosive bat would play really well in Texas.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Defense
Huff at DH means we get Ishi, which improves our D.
I think that Pablo will get a DH chance again LHP, that is, Lee if game 5 happens. But against a righty? Ishi gives us a LH bat which we sorely lack and improves our D.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Pablo is better left handed, no?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What are you arguing for exactly then?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
And we all know . . .
. . . how many runs better a defense microscopically than Huff’s at 1B means compared to the difference between Ishikawa’s batting skills and Sandoval’s, yes? Is this a KNBR call-in show, or what?
Sabean delendum est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
First base defense is highly over rated
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Science!
Huff career UZR/150 @ 1B: -3
Ishi career UZR/150 @ 1B: +13.5
Ishi career wRC/150: ~67
Panda career wRC/150: ~86 (but 2010 alone ~67)
Nate career wRC/150: ~66
Nate career UZR/150 @RF: +19
I think those numbers are all reasonably representative. I put both 2010 and career for Panda for comparison… I guess you could use something in the middle. I am NOT sure how to rate Burrel in LF… Ross is slightly better in LF than RF but I doubt it’s significant. I used 600 PA = 150 “games” for wRC.
From the above – I get:
Panda – Huff – Burrell as +17 – whatever you give Burrell in LF
Huff – Ishi – Burrell as +16 – whatever you give Burrell in LF
Nate – Huff – Burrell as +16 outright.
Burrell is the real wild card because he clearly hates playing DH.
If Burrell is a net zero in LF (he’s +10 for 2010, -6 in OF for his career), then there’s no advantage of having him DH over Huff.
So, if you think Panda can hit .305/.350/.484 (his career line!) then you put him at DH, but it’s close no matter how you slice it.
Remember at this level -5 runs/150 games is worth all of 0.1 runs in 3 games (call it .01 wins!)
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
Yeah, but...
Huff compiled a UZR/150 of 9.7 at 1B this season, in more than half the number of innings Ishi has going into his career UZR. I agree completely that Ishi is a better defensive option at 1B, but Huff has played well there this year.
With great pitching and a (usually) scuffly offense, I’m betting that defensive performance is worth more than the 10 runs ~ 1 win usual conversion, if that system even makes sense in a 3-game set where the result is far more binary.
Single season UZR is just about worthless.
Raul Ibanez was an above average defender in 09 if you use single-season UZR.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I know.
But my point was different. Ishikawa doesn’t have much of a UZR background OTHER than a single season.
I don’t see how it matters… We can’t even narrow down Panda’s offensive contribution to <20 runs. I think using career uzr/150 for all these guys is not very accurate, but it’s probably the best guess. Unless you think Huff learned how to play 1B better.
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
by zenbitz on Oct 29, 2010 6:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Matt Cain?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Matt Cain.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain disapproves of exclamation marks.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain‽
What is Matt Cain’s opinion on the interrobang?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Too new-school.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
ALSO
Matt Cain.
"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless
FURTHERMORE
Matt Cain
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
I WAS READING AN ARTICLE EARLIER THAT OFFERED SOME RATHER INSIGHTFUL INSIGHTS INTO
Matt Cain
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Cogito ergo
Matt Cain
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
needs all caps, like this
MATT CAIN
by TimLaser and MattyC on Oct 29, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
When you want to Matt Cain, you’ve gotta type Matt Cain… Matt Cain
He don’t lie, he don’t lie, he don’t lie… Matt Cain
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
In Texan... Matt Cain ‽
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the Huff as DH/Travis at 1b. Travis deserves this, he's been a solid pinch hitter all year.
Travis against a right hander.
no one deserves anything
whoever gives you the best chance to win should be in the lineup. that may be Travis, but maybe not.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
"ZIPS Is Indeed Supose To Science." --GRM
+33
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha amazing
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The best part is that Canseco was on the RANGERS when this happened.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
BTW
MLBTR is looking for a new writer. I figure there are several people here who are pretty qualified.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions
I wish I could
but I don’t think commenting here counts as “writing experience”
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I applied there once. They didn’t like the cut of my jib. I encourage others to try, though.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006. Bringing you all your California League and New York-Penn League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 30, 2010 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions
So I just read this entire thread
Half of it is complaining about other fans’ opinions of the Giants. The other half is baseball-themed cheese puns.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Fear the Fin - Cornering the market on third pairing defensemen since March 2009
You forgot Matt Cain
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Yeah, we really could have used more cheese puns.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The ratio is out of whack.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
so you're saying
you came here for news?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried to scold the offenders on the cheese subthread, but they turned my complaint into more cheese jokes.
I sincerely fear for my life right now.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
Your rebuke wasn't Sharp enough
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
That’s what you get when you robluchon.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Because then parmagiano-reggiano to . . . wait. I did it wrong.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Cheeesus christ quitcherbitchin
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
huh
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo DH confirmed
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Couple guys on Twitter confirming it.
Reiss, Fletcherr
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Ichiro! gets punctuation. Shinjo? did too.
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"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
not enough armbands in that photo
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That's fine
Ishi would have worked, but Pablo’s the scarier batter certainly.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Hmmm
extrabaggs
Got my World Series Gala pass. Dress code is “Cowboy Chic.” Darnit, I brought all Caribbean cruisewear.
So “cowboy chic” is this?

They could be Giants...but not really.
that's pretty cool.
I remember when BBTN used to broadcast live from the gala location, i guess they stopped that and set up inside the ballparks now.
Both sides must throw a contractually obligated party, from what I understand.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
I wonder how it compares . . .
. . . to an All-Star party? The 1984 San Francisco All-Star experience was one whose memories will last me a lifetime. One of the high points was some poor kid on the sidewalk who ran up to my father-in-law (a bald man nicknamed “Shorty”) and asked if please, Mr. Reese, could I have your autograph? I loved telling Bill Conlin (a dick) “Sorry, that seat’s taken.” Dancing under the City Hall rotunda. People who had been to numerous Super-Bowl parties said this was much superior. Bob Lurie really wnet all out that year.
Sabean delendum est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Has your closing line moved into the past tense or something?
My latin is rusty, but weren’t we formerly at ‘delenda’?
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That particular construction can never be past tense. It’s always future.
-Um is the neuter ending. I’m not sure why owlcroft switched to that one. The one he wants is Sabean delendus est!
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Why? Because his friggin' memory is in the friggin' dumpster.
I started typing the right one a while back and said to myself, “Self, that doesn’t seem like what you wanted.” I was, apparently, wrong.
OK, so now, here we go:
Sabean delendus est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Doesn’t that assume Brian wasn’t neutered by Magowan in order to effect the Zito signing?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants
"For all you first-basemen who played first your whole life, that's where Buster plays on his OFF days" - Kuiper
Ish and Nate should spend the off season studying Huff's swing
cause they aren’t going to be in the bigs much longer unless they learn to square it up. I figure any hits they get are just little more than accidents.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
I can’t keep up with your millions of comments in thousands of threads, but did anyone happen to catch this piece from The Onion?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Yeah it’s been posted.
Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 29, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
http://www.theonion.com/articles/barry-bonds-in-stands-ruins-world-series-for-every,18362/
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
What there is no baseball game today? What is this nonsense?!?!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
THIS^
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
'Twould be so fitting to root for an orange-and-black clad team who wins the World Series on Halloween.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
can we all do the monster mash if they do?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
It was a ballpark smash
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It's complete bullshit. My wife tells me there's some other sporting event on television that she calls "basketball" or some such name, but who could give a shit about not baseball?
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m quite looking forward to being the only person tomorrow who doesn’t care about hand-egg.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I think so. On the Yahoo sports page there's a heading for NHL
I’m pretty sure that means National Handegg League.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Post-highschool unpaid bondsman handegg
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
perhaps your finest work yet
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Could be worse...
…they could have a whole week of inane media buildup that they call “World Series Week” even though it contains no actual world series games.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
you can follow the AFL games. Belt and Culbie are playing
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2009/index.jsp?gid=2010_10_29_msswin_scowin_1
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
and Verdugo
Started the game, 4 IP, 2 H, BB, 5 K, 60 P. Not half bad.
That Verdugo guy has dizzying stuff.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh
Jon Miller and Joe Morgan’s fates as ESPN’s announcers on "Sunday Night Baseball" will be decided soon after the end of the World Series, which they are calling on ESPN Radio.
The two have been together for 21 seasons, but with their contracts expiring and no announcement yet concerning their futures, it seems likely that one or both may be gone.
Sports broadcasting teams on national networks rarely stay together as long as Miller and Morgan have, and ESPN is deciding whether it is wise to move to a younger generation of voices.
Like Joe Buck? No, thank you.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Jon Miller should be calling World Series games on TV
He’s the #1 broadcaster in the sport.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 29, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
/109
Have they announced who will DH tomorrow?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 5:57 PM PDT reply actions
Giants manager Bruce Bochy has confirmed that Pablo Sandoval will serve as the designated hitter in Game 3 of the World Series.
They could be Giants...but not really.
per?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Sullivan?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy was also on KNBR with Tolbert and confirmed it
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Would have liked
to see Ishikawa get the start at first, with Huff as the DH. Just cuz i have this feeling Ishikawa can bang offensively when he gets a hold of one. I guess if Pablo looks awful, they will go to that. Pablo does have a great OPS against righties.
Usually, I think the Giants don’t hit pitchers that they haven’t seen very much. In the last few years, it seems like young pitchers on every team shut out the Giants pretty regularly.
I guess they hadn’t seen the pitchers they saw yesterday though and it didn’t stop them.
by parisspleen1313 on Oct 29, 2010 6:19 PM PDT reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=5742486
per ESPN
Pablo is DH
let pablo buffet
by varsity shortcut on Oct 29, 2010 6:25 PM PDT reply actions
well
who thought we’d see the day where ESPN is reporting the Giants’ lineup as breaking news?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The Phillies and the Yanks should play a series for 3rd place
that is held in the time off before and during the off-days of the world series
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Meh
I wouldn’t bother watching that, and I doubt those fans would want to watch their teams fight to continue be the second-best loser.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 29, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So what's the deal?
We have a family Halloween thang to go to on Saturday. Looking on sfgiants.com Saturday’s pregame is at 3:30 and first pitch is at 5:57 ?? ~2.5 hours of pregame? Is that right? Seems like an awful long pregame show…
OMG BAY AREA NEWSCASTERS
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Sign of the times
I open McC firth thing now instead of reading news feeds with my morning coffee.
Good morning.
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"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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First!
Not. But now having z’d the whole thing… I feel better.
It’s just another Saturday morning now.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
holy shit was anybody just watching CSN just now?
They had some astrologist on talking about the cosmic flow and energy of the team and talking about how cody ross is a capricorn and sanchez needs to channel his bad energy into good energy.
it was the biggest crock of shit i have ever watched and im surprised the hosts didnt just burst out laughing when she was talking
Was it a woman? possibly the same lady that calls into FP once in a while?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah she looked cracked out of her mind
seriously, it was horrible to watch/listen to
But
Which Sanchez, though? That’s the key when you’re rechanneling in the middle of a cosmic flow.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
That woman
Calls in every night to FP’s show. Do you know what’s even more batshit crazy than her?
The fact that she’s been right all season.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 29, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I would really love
to see this person in Arlington. I think Real America would like that a lot more than Ken Rosenthal telling us what color upholstery CJ Hunter wants to put in his racecar.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
CJ Hunter is on the Rangers?
And you thought your Giants were the only ones connected to PEDs!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
blast
Real America and their interchangeable names!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never met anyone named John Smith. However, I have seen quite a few fellows named Kaden.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Has today been as batshit boring for you guys as it has been for me?
There’s NOTHING to do. I mean I’m busy with uni work but I just can’t get anything done, thank God the World Series ends before my exams.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
my phone after making contact with parking garage of El Cerrito Del Norte BART station

Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
well
I was going to just light $75 on fire, but this seemed more fun.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Not really. Burning 75 one dollar bills is a terrific time.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone ever see Alexi Sayles' routine on using cocaine?
He suggests a simple legal method of duplicating the experience: sprinkle talcum powder on coarse-grit sandpaper, roll it into a tube, and vigorously rub that tube in and out of your nostrils while burning up twenty-dollar bills.
Sabean delendum est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Is this why you have not played our Words with Friends game?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Mine did that too after it met my end table… Stupid apple…
by skilletboy on Oct 29, 2010 7:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully this is NOT a omen for the Giants.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Judging by the way iPhones don't work* at AT&T Park during postseason games
Possibly a good omen
* data. voice and text are OK.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Uribe used to work for the Rox… etc.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
OT-WTF?!?!
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/29/nyregion/29young.html?no_interstitial
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
good news!
you can sue your students!
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
how was “Nat’l Drive Your Teacher Crazy In Costume While Mainlining Sugar Products At School Day” for you? ;)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I’ve got 3 kids on active IEPs and another 2 pending… I’m not doing anything real exciting this year for any holiday. Usually I bring in a little kiddie tent, drape a black curtain over it and let them play with flash lights inside of it. Not this year. I’da had about 4 kids bludgeoned and 3 others maimed.
I’ve never allowed costumes cuz’ 4 year olds can’t get themselves out of them before peeing on themselves, and the parents get all pissed off if the costumes get torn or damaged. HeadStart doesn’t allow ANY outside food so no candy or junk foodie stuff. I passed out light sticks to the kids to take home with them… Weird though, I’d say about half of the parents had no idea what they were!
sounds like you had a better day than my friend in Montana, one of her kinders got sick on her (spaghetti day). srsly though, who made the decision for spaghetti for lunch on Halloween at School day, it never ends well….
I’m baffled about the parents not knowing about light sticks…not enough technology I guess ;)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
They don’t do spaghetti in our district anymore.
About, man, 12 years ago? They served the kids some tainted spaghetti. It was mighty gross. Buses were pulling up in front of the school, kids were hanging out the windows puking all over everything. It was like something out of a movie. They’ve never served spaghetti since.
ok, the btw insists on knowing
How do you taint spaghetti?
that.is.HORRIFYING! D:
then again, most school lunches are an abomination
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I always used to love “brown day” when lunch would consist of chicken nuggets, tater tots, applesauce, and chocolate milk. Lotsa nutrients in that.
you have to admit
that gets around the food poisoning problem… no germs could live in that either.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
yup, when it contains no actual food product, it’s hard to get food poisoning
I once did a paper on school nutrition, according to what my students were eating (San Jose Unified) they were taking in more than 1,000 calories and 3x the amount of sodium recommended in a day…IN ONE MEAL!! it was variations on a theme: startch, cheese(ish), legumes, bread and/or deep fried. Oh, and fruit cocktail, um, yeah..
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
We’ve complained numerous times about the food. The funny thing is that the menus are apparently calculated over the course of the week. So having say carrots on a Monday in large enough serving sizes can in theory count for the vitamin A requirement for the week.
that's awesome
sadly isn’t that one of those vitamins where the excess is expelled?
I guess that’s what the old cinnamon roll lunch used to do: get the week’s carbs in at one meal.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If I recall my nutrition class correctly...
Which I probably don’t since that was like 20 years ago…
A, D, E, K are the ones stored in fat, the B vitamins are the ones you pee out pretty quickly.
did you catch that show with Jamie Oliver? Food Revolution (I think) where he tried to get one of the “fattest” communities to change their diets, including the local school? I missed the ending, but it was shocking that so many of these people thought this lifestyle was ok. The bit at the funeral parlor was heartbreaking.
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I get kids coming to school with bags of “flaming hot cheetos” – this is at 8am. The other day after sending a note home in English and Spanish asking parents to PLEASE not give their kids candy for breakfast… I had one kid come in to school with a blue tongue, and another with chocolate cookie crumbs on his shirt.
I just keep telling myself “8 more months”
omg, you’re me 10 years ago when I was working in San Jose! I LOATHE HOT CHEETOS!!! or worse, that powder chili stuff, Lucas or something? just made me want to shake their parents and/or guardians!
but on the other hand, at least your kids are eating breakfast! O_o
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
We feed them breakfast at 830. Granted it’s usually some processed food product, and sour nasty applesauce. But kripes it’s better than cheetos and blue raspberry jolly ranchers!
breakfast pizza FTW!
ick :( and they wonder why are kids aren’t learning and are too tired to exercise!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
lol :D
best of luck to you, wishing you enough patience to get you through the holiday season! Then it will only be 5 more months! ;)
p.s. if I haven’t said it before, YOU’RE A SAINT!!!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
wow
TMI, but yet I can’t look away!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he serious?
str8edgeracer C.J. Wilson
so to be clear- yesterday my left middle finger tore itself open and was bleeding profusely. I’m blaming the special world series baseballs
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yes, those rascally baseballs.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't be
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey C.J. ! "A good craftsman never blames his tools"
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMN THOSE NEW SPHERICAL WORLD SERIES BALLS!
BRING BACK THE CUBES I SAY!
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Proud Aussie father of Roberto Kelly
by Tim LinCyYoung on Oct 29, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
NL clown balls!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
MADE A MOCKERY OF TEH SERIES WITH GHEYBALLZ!
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
it tore ITSELF open!?!?!?
possessed finger is possessed
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Oct 29, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on
str8edgeracer C.J. Wilson
WS baseballs was a joke, I’ve got new tweeps that can’t read my ingrained sarcasm yet…you’ll learn. but yeah at least BP was good today!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Someone does not understand how to convey sarcasm
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Yes, he really should have inflected his voice differently.
He’d already posted the clarification when you put the comment up here.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
lol patronizing comment is patronizing
You know full well there are ways to convey sarcasm through typing. And one of them is not to type something that reads completely normal then backpedal when some people take it serious.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I've got a middle finger for C.J. Wilson
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The sarcasm font isn’t supported by the Twitter
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Looking up at the original comment, the sarcasm seems pretty clear to me.
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
Same here. but then, I’ve been folliowing him for most of the season, so I’ve gotten used to his tone
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
here's some sarcasm
“Ow my blister… get a reliever in here stat before I walk someone else”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 29, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I just pictured Wilson in the movie Idiocracy getting his middle finger pummeled in various ways on the TV show "Oww...my blister!"
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong hand.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Excuse me. I guess I should have drawn it the other way…….
by skilletboy on Oct 29, 2010 10:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
FTFY

31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
pwned
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I sorta like CJ Wilson.
He should come pitch for us.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 29, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like that too
Except someone raised the whole sudden-jump-in-innings thing and I’m a bit offput.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
beiber made him change jerseys?
also subject line please
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Oct 29, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
At first I was all...
But then I saw…
And now I’m all…
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
And also Matt Cain.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Arizona Fall League prospect update
Brandon Belt: 2-3, RBI (.270/.325/.351/.676 with an alarming strikeout rate north of 30% prior to tonight’s game)
Charlie Culberson: 1-3, 2B (.477/.500/.795/1.295 prior to tonight’s game)
Lewis has faced the Giants once before
But it was a one inning relief appearance while with Oakland on June 9, 2007.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I looked it up: Losing pitcher: Barry Zito
This game had a Vinnie Chulk and a Randy Messenger sighting. And a Jonathan Sanchez relief appearance.
BLB: 2 for 4, 2 K’s, 1 SB
The night before was the Pedro Feliz catching game.
Good times.
ALSO
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
Your arrow is trouble trouble trouble
It aimed at me
You Shoot Shoot Shoot
I Hoot Hoot Hoot!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
You need to defend your favorite DH
some people are talking crap up thread.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Don't knock Shinjo
Once hit a walk off basehit off of an intentional walk pitch. For reals.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
LOL LSB mental midgets. They just don't get it.
“Those fucking high fastballs
This is what frustrated me last night, is the feeling and statements among the media that Cain outdid CJ. Cain gave up 3 hits that would be gone in most parks. CJ gave up 1. Cain just happened to get better locations on those hard hit flies.
It’s not like he was striking anybody out or just bringing it. The Rangers kept swinging at the first fucking fastball they saw, and it didn’t matter how close to the zone it was.
I wish I could just push yesterday over… but save the bullpen shutdown, there was no goddamn excuse for the team to keep swinging like that through several trips. It was absolutely baffling, even knowing how aggressive this team is.
by venturafearsnolan on Oct 29, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions "
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
1st: read his username as “ventafrustration” lol me
2nd:watching MLBnet today after replay of game and hearing Ripken (pretty sure) say last night’s game wasn’t a blow out made my blood boil. Really? since when does a 9-run shut out not equal a “blow out”?
I’m of 2 opinions right now:
GIVE ME A FING BREAK MEDIA & GIVE OUR TEAM THE PROPS IT DESERVES FOR SURPRISING THE WORLD!!!
*But then (after much calmer breathing and counting to 10), I think, they’ve not paid attention to the Giants all year, don’t know anything about our team (and it shows) and look at what the Giants are doing to these other teams and their stellar pitchers. So maybe it is for the best we stay under the radar…especially if these are the results :)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I totally agree. Let them believe that the Giants have nothing.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
wow, I must have gotten really excited about all that CAPS LOCK rant, it mysteriously turned itself partially bold…kinda spooky!
but srsly, why are we (the fans) the only ones who get how great these guys are, both in baseball and as teammates? kinda makes me sad
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
F!
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Now, on MLB TV, Mitch Williams is pimping the mean and great Texas Rangers fans.
Oh, they are meaner and louder than Phillies fans. Oooooooh. That douchebag is just pathetic.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
did you hear him saying how mean SF fans were??? MEAN! this asshat was saying how SF fans will say anything to a player (no, just you Mitch) and SF fans don’t care if they say things that cross the line (again, only to you Mitch) awww, did poor lil Mitchy-witchy get his feelins hurted? BOO-friggin-HOO!
and then that jerkstore Millar agreed by saying we’re meaner than Dodgers fans, Padres fans, but that we and the A’s fans are basically cut from the same cloth…Mitch’s response was, “well, when you’re cold 11 months out of the year, you’d be angry too”
I just can’t with these two…
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s cold 11 months here? no one has ever informed me of this!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
Yes, it's FREEZING here ALL THE TIME!
Here’s the proof: http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCA0987
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LIES!
No snow= not cold enough, sorry Mitchy!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
lol
me thinks it’s really Mitch’s cold, dead heart that has turned him into the SnowMiser
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
so if we bring out the sun, will it melt him?
/ohpleaseohpleaseohplease
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
sadly, no, he’ll just evaporate and come back to earth a bigger meat head than before, and who wants that?
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
ok, let’s just lock him in the wine cellar
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
but I like wine :( seeing his stupid mug everytime I want a glass will just ruin the buzz!
can’t we just ship him off to Timbuktu, like in the cartoons? worked for Hanna-Barbara!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I vote for Siberia
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
below freezing temps, isolation, no cable, no baseball, I’m sold, LET’S DO IT
!
you buy the box and the Burger King for bait, I’ll pay for shipping! Damn, he’s all bloated and outta shape, mind going dutch on the shipping?
:D LOL
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
this NEEDS to be done.. maybe we can get buck & mccarver to come along as well!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
tricking them into the box shouldn’t be hard, just need fire to scare Buck into the box and McCarver just needs to be told there’s something shiny in the box to get him in there
done and done!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Best.Idea.Ever.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks, I love plotting evil schemes in my head, it’s so fun!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
so awesome!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
so I imaging since we’re headed to TX (insert obligatory ::ptooey:: here), there will be lots of country artists for you to enjoy for the SSB and GBA, yes? :)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I would certainly hope so! I enjoyed Lady Antebellum’s SSB a lot last night.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
so no news yet on who’s performing? I’m shocked it’s not been plastered over every sports page to distract from TX being Cain’d last night ;)
hope you don’t get mad at me, but I’m desperately crossing my fingers that there will be no Toby Keith sighting, that guy bugs me so much!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
it’s okay I’m not a big Toby Keith guy. He’s all about drinking and womens’ behinds. While I do enjoy both of those, that’s not really my type of country.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
While I do enjoy both of those, that’s not really my type of country.
I lol’d
you sounded so posh! and the word ‘behinds’ makes me giggle!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
For some reason, I’m not a fan of the word “ass”, hence the use of behind. Toby sings about the same thing in about every single song, its rather annoying. I’d rather listen to some downhome stuff like Alabama. Hell, I think I would listen to rap before I listened to an entire Keith CD.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s adorable, ‘hiney’ is another one that makes me lol, but you’re right, sure beats “ass”. That word is much better used during moments of road rage or pointing out facepalming stupidity. He’s just such a stereotypical meat head, and his fans go ape-crap for everything he does, I just don’t get the appeal
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Me either. Couple of my good friends love him, I just want to shake them and yell “What are you on right now???”
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Red necks, white trucks and Blue Ribbon beer.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That explains most of my family, actually.
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
awww! are you the black sheep of the family? No wonder you come here for solace! ;)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I’m country, just don’t let it take over myself and my life!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, dear, you’re not gonna like this: Game 3 SSB-Kelly Clarkson :(
oh, and Justin Beiber is gonna have some lame video premier during the game…
WTF?!?!?!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
worst news ever. at least I won’t have to be surprised tomorrow I suppose..
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry, I thought I’d cushion the blow with a preemptive strike :( I found no listings for GBA or other games, so there’s still hope for something good!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
There better be! Or I will have to have a word with Mr Daniels and Mr Ryan about their staffs’ choices of talent. Otherwise, they might just get a boot to their behinds!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That would make sense, maybe Kelly Clarkson is trying to get her career back? Wait, wait that isn’t right she never had one!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard it's gonna be Kelly Clarkson
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 29, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait. If it's cold there...
what the fuck happens HERE in December?
Oh God. I’m doomed.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 30, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve heard absolutely horrible, mean, over the top things yelled at the players, going back to half price Tuesdays at the ‘Stick. It’s not even unusual. It’s like an art form. I don’t know how it compares to other areas though… gotta imagine the crowds in the upper I95 corridor can be pretty brutal.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 29, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but he made it out like we’re known MLB over for being the rudest of the rude…couldn’t be farther off the mark. Grasping at straws because he figured he wouldn’t have to invest any time in learning about the Giants for the postseason.
and they can’t have it both ways, one minute we’re the Wine & Cheese club and the next we’re the meanest fans in the world? Oh, I forgot to mention he (Millar) lumped us into 49er fans (whaaa?) and Raider’s fans… /facepalm
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I'm not rude. I'm cruel.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
nice! good one SoCalGgal
can’t stand that mitch guy. Just bitter his favored team lost! Boohoo cry me a river.
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 29, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Tonight on the Western Channel
“The Frisco Kid”
followed by
“A Bullet for Sandoval”
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I love how a giants fan
said that he only knew about Arlington because of The Rookie.
For a while i considered that my only true view into texas baseball, and the movie was more about the Rays. The Rangers were probably the least visible franchise in baseball for the first half of the 2000’s.
by kezargiants on Oct 30, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
David Lee > Cliff Lee
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions
Did anyone watch C.J.’s post-game interview? The guy is kind of a douche.
by JSing on Oct 29, 2010 9:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
you mean the one where he claimed superglueing his finger during the inning is probably against regulations because of “performance enhancement” or some crap like that?
nope, didn’t see it
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Pretty close for not having seen the interview. How about that reporter who asked him if it was the same reason he left during the ALCS? That guy is in a corner in the fetal position somewhere.
by JSing on Oct 29, 2010 11:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
lol :)
excuse this flash of gullibility (or n00b, or whatever you wanna call it-I’ll tuck it back in later) but why would the reporter be in the fetal position?
I swear it’s a legit question, I just want to understand!
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I was wondering the same thing. Did Wilson beat the reporter up?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
not that I’ve heard, according to “news” he was pulled in 5th, so maybe “blister” is code for “implosion”? CJ got the L for that game too.
just stabbing in the dark on this one /shrugs
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Did you just stab someone?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
/wipes SoCalGal’s fingerprints off knife
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
/takes knife gives knife to Dodger fan
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
/makes sure all our stories line up
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
/brings Dinger to room in question
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
/asks LincecumFTK and giantsfan to find me a fake ID and a safe place to hide out from the cops
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
/buys ya’ll Wilson Beards
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
/lines up MCC lawyers for crack legal team
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 30, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't look at me.
I ain’t touchin’ any knife handled by a Giants’ fan. UNCLEAN.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 30, 2010 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Well.
As a Dodger fan, it’s either touch it, or leave it in your ribcage. Your decision, really. :P
Yeahbut
As long as it’s in place, I can’t bleed out, right?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 30, 2010 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Hm.
This may or may not be a valid point. How about I lend you a helping hand, my good fellow, and remove it for you?
Oh no.
You can’t fool ME.
This blade stays lodged in my vital organs, mister.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 30, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, very well then.
Enjoy the constant pain.
And the poison.
/me snickers.
Transcript from MLB.com (condensed version):
Reporter 1: “Can you talk about your finger?”
CJ: “(inaudible crying/whining)”
Reporter 2: “CJ, is this finger the same reason you left the game during the ALCS?”
CJ: “Are you serious? I just answered that question?”
Reporter 2: “Well I mean…”
CJ: “I JUST ANSWERED THAT QUESTION! YOU ARE A PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING! I WOULD FORNICATE WITH YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTER IF IT DID NOT COMPRIMISE MY SUPERIOR MORAL STANDING AMONGST SOCIETY!”
Reporter 2:…
Reporter 2:…
Reporter 2:…
by JSing on Oct 30, 2010 12:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ugh CJ Wilson
knew he was a douche. All the players that the national media are playing up seem really houlier-than-thou. Don’t like it at all.
by kezargiants on Oct 30, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
CJ Wilson
is not holier-than-thou. Not even Josh Hamilton is. Neither of them have ever said anything about being a better person than anyone else. Josh Hamilton has said the obverse, because it’s true and he knows it: he’s a crack addict and always will be. The closest thing to holier-than-thou we’ve seen regarding Texas is that one guy commenting about all his multiple reports of mean Giants fans.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I dunno
Fox is really ramping up the “Lee likes to hunt” and “CJ Wilson wants to drive racecar” stories. Which obviously isn’t Hamilton’s fault.
All those “reports of mean Giants fans” sound an awful lot like drunk idiots outside the park after the game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly the same kind of observation I saw made around here in late 2008/early 2009
About our Wilson.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Mitch Williams continues to be the Texas homer on MLB
I seriously would like to put a badger up his ass.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
I loathe that piece of pig excrement.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
My absolute FAVORITE memory of the playoffs before this year. Will Clark ownage of Williams was classic.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
oh I would give ANYTHING to see that! is it locatable on the interwebs?
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awww :D got goosebumps hearing those names called during the game!
any idea who was calling that game (on the clip, there wasn’t a description)? thanks!!!
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The GREAT Hank Greenwald!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Clark hit .650 in that series with an unbelievable 1.882 OPS
No wonder Mitch Williams hates the Giants.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
if Texas goes down 0-3 I expect him to start complaining about teh gays
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Right now that would be a good way to get fired.
I hope he does it.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
hahahah
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My first green ever
thanx guys
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw someone apparently dressed as Brad Hennessey walking around campus today.
Pretty random.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Um….I do not want to know.
though I’m slightly curious as to what was going on in that individual’s head when he/she put on that outfit
just sayin’ ;)
might be tryin to sneak into clubhouse, hoping no one will notice? cuz, really, why would anyone wanna dress like an ex-Giant for Halloween (not to be confused with former Giant)
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Well I dressed up as Jeff Kent once…then he went to the Dodgers…yeah I’d rather not talk about it…
former? ex? what’s the difference?
these are my definitions, so take that with a grain of salt ;)
former-means they left baseball and/or retired after playing for us for a considerable amount of time if not most/all of their career
ex-means they deserted us for some other team they thought would take them to the postseason
guess where I believe Kent fits….
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would you like that breaded and fried, shake n’ baked, bbq’d or grilled?
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How about breaded n’ baked with a little time on the grill to give some grill marks and a little bbq sauce on the side?
picky much?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
hell, for confirming Kent’s doucheyness, I’ll throw in coleslaw and a beer!
wait, are you of age??? ah, screw it, have the beer anyway!
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why yes! ever since the post season started-thank god I’m unemployed, I don’t know how I would be a fully functioning teacher and be here til oh-to-early after each game (and apparently on non-game days too!)
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oh dear, as someone who’s been stuck by a “newbie”, and I’m doing this outta love, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD-GO TO BED!!!!!!
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I'm a bit of a sadist.
I find the discomfort of Mdizzle’s…test subjects to be highly entertaining, so I encourage trying to pull an all-nighter.
Oh ye of little faith, it’s not like I just go and stab people with the needle (or a knife in your case)…so they’ll be fine. If not…well I can just load them up with vicodine and they’ll be happy
well then I applaud your mad skillz, cuz the last girl that drew blood looked human to me, but it turns out she was in fact, satan.
hmm, that was strangely of questionable appropriateness-quick EARMUFFS! sorry…
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Watching the MLBN replay of Game 2
Most underrated moment: Hugs all around the Giants dugout for Aaron Rowand after Torres knocked him in. Say what you want about the guy, but he accepted his role this season and never pouted, stayed ready, and when he got his chance in the World Series he came through with a huge hit. It is so friggin’ cool to see everyone on this roster make a contribution and see the genuine love these players have for each other. Keep giving me the happy!
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 29, 2010 10:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
so much this :D
classy guy that Rowand, glad he’s ours, even with the enormous price tag
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Not to get ahead our ourselves...
…but next year is Rowand’s contract year. Be nice if he could put up a .270 with a little pop and solid defense.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
little pop and solid defense is kind of his thing. oh you mean..
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I do think (and correct me if I misspeak) he does better off the bench rather than in a starting position. I couldn’t possibly tell you if he’s more relaxed (plays better) if he comes in when we’re ahead vs. when we’re behind, I don’t have a head for those kind of figures. It just seems that we get this little explosions of good hitting from him when he comes in later. I can kind of say the same for Ish, too. Less hacking, more thoughtful swinging?
It’s not that I want them forever on the bench, I just think their roles have changed this year, and I’m thankful they are mature and classy enough to not bitch about not playing everyday.
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He’s no longer carrying the full weight of expectations, being the highest paid offensive player and trying to make everything happen.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not, but I agree that he is a classy guy and I’m glad he got a moment in the spotlight during the series.
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by zodiac_chiller on Oct 29, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand is the kind of 4th/5th outfielder you don't mind having around.
If you ignore his contract, at least. Positional flexibility with decent defense and a respectable bat against left handed pitching. I’d be okay with Burrell/Torres/Ross/Rowand/Nate in the outfield next season. I think.
And I just now remembered DeRosa. Where the hell does he fit in? Left? I don’t really want to ditch Nate, I like his glove in the outfield in late innings with the lead.
I kinda doubt the Burrell will be back.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm almost sure they will be
Who else is our starting LF? DeRosa will be a bench player, not a starter. We need a left fielder, he likes it here, he’ll come cheap. What’s not to love?
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A healthy DeRosa is quite capable of being an effective starter, to be fair.
It’s just been a bit since he’s actually been healthy.
But it's a pretty safe bet, I would assert
That Burrell would out-produce DeRosa.
Plus, don’t forget that Burrell is old and would benefit from some days off – DeRosa will be useful, but there’s no reason at all that I can think of not to bring Burrell back on a 1-year/5 million or something, which seems both right and fair.
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Sure, but . . .
. . . DeRosa is not, or should not be, in competition for an OF job, but rather for something in the middle/left IF region. If Renteria does not return, Uribe inherits the main SS duties; it then becomes a question of which (if any) of DeRosa, Fontenot, or FSanchez could sub in at SS once in a while without embarrassing himself or the team. Of the three, DeRosa probably—almost certainly—has the best bat. Or, if Renteria is kept on for one more year (not an outlandish idea, though I’m not interested in a contest over it right now), with Uribe remaining the “super-sub” between 2B, SS, and 3B, then DeRosa becomes an attractive candidate for the 2B job. FSanchez is gone after 2011 anyway, so why not play DeRosa instead and trade FSanchez for whatever the market will bear? And Fontenot is a quite useful spare part (or insurance policy if DeRosa has new problems).
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Nice in theory but you have to make sure DeRosa is healthy before putting Sanchez on the trading block. And that probably means starting the season with both on the roster, potentially upsetting the balance of the team dynamic once you pull the trigger on the trade.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
His name is Fontenot.
His platoon differential would almost surely become normal were he a full-time player; indeed, even absent the DeRosa consideration, if FSanchez had any useful trade value I’d be likely to go for it anyway, because Fontenot looks to be about as valuable a batter and plausible or better fielder at 2B, and is younger and cheaper.
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Not sure about better fielder at second. When Sanchez has been actually healthy, he's been superb there.
I’d be okay with keeping DeRosa, Sanchez, Uribe, Sandoval, and Fontenot floating around.
Sorry, wasn't clear.
I didn’t mean that Fontenot is necessarily better than FSanchez: I meant that he is plausible or better than plausible as a second baseman. Still, by baseball-reference.com, Fontenot’s 2B “Rtot/yr” is -5, while FSanchez’s is -3. As all know by now, I am not keen on these fielding metrics, but those at least suggest no wild discrepancy between the two men.
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Reasonable enough - until you account for the injuries Sanchez has played with.
Perhaps I’m off base here, it just seems to me that when healthy, there’s at least a moderately noticeable gap defensively, though not large enough to keep Fontenot from getting a chunk of at bats against RHP, even if not a full platoon, or even 50/50.
Not according to UZR
Which has Fontenot as the superior defender. The eye test, of course, favores Freddy, but by how much?
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Who knows, really.
The eye test really likes watching a healthy Sanchez. The data doesn’t determine that very easily, and is garbage in small sample size regardless.
I love it that we’re debating next season’s infield while LSB is still trying to figure out what hit them.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Indeed.
I have my nursing home picked out already.
I’m twenty three.
IT’S A HANDBAG!
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
You and your vaunted logic
How many batting titles did Fontenot win?
Seriously though, MIke Fontenot could probably perform just as well as Freddy over the course of a season. People forget just how bad Freddy has been in his career against RHP.
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I'd wager there's probably 30 points of ops+ difference
between Sanchez and Fontenot. Sure, give Mike a handful of starts at second against Right Handers, but I’d not go into full platoon mode. It’s just more insurance against injury/ineffectiveness.
Any chance he could improve enough at third that he could spell Sandoval against LHP?
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez vs. Fontenot OPS+
Sanchez 2006-2010(age 28-32): 119, 104, 78, 96, 98
Fontenot 2007-2010(age 27-30): 86, 130, 73, 86
They’re both on the declining half of the aging curve.
Sanchez’ outlier seems like the 78, and we should expect mid-90’s OPS+ (720 OPS) from him. Fontenot’s outlier seems like the 130, and we should expect low 80’s OPS+(680?) from him. The worry about Fontenot is that the only season he had over 300 PA was his 73 OPS+ season.
Fontenot’s career OPS+ vs. RHP, however is 105. Sanchez has a career OPS+ vs. LHP of 136. A platoon sounds ideal.
Not a full platoon though, in my mind.
Get Fontenot regular at bats at various positions against Righties, though, at second and short.
The issue is play time.
Platoon differentials become, in the true meaning of the phrase, self-fulfilling prophecies. In a strict platoon, the LHB is probably ok because the majority of innings are pitched by RHP; but the RHB is not going to get enough PAs to be able to play at his full ability (unless he is one of that small handful of guys who can fall out of bed and hit well). And even the LHB may be getting less than the optimum.
If you play a man every day, normally his platoon differential settles down in a while to pretty much the norm. I forget exactly what that is, but it’s not enough to keep most “everyday” players—all of whom have it—from playing.
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Blech. at weird acronyms
I mis-read Baseball-ref’s splits page. They were using tOPS+, which is relative to the player’s performance. I was wondering how the hell Fontenot suddenly became a 105 OPS+ player.
He actually has a career OPS+ of around ~93/70.
Sanchez has a career OPS+ of ~97/135
So yah, Sanchez is definitely the better all-around choice, even for $6mm. Relegate Fontenot to backup/utility, IMO.
Yerp.
I’d still like to see Fontenot get semi-regular at-bats against RHP at various infield positions, but Sanchez is the primary guy at second, for me.
Let's look:
FSanchez’s career TOP is 754 (his 2010 is almost exactly his career, 752); Fontenot’s is 760. Now that’s not really apples and apples, because FSanchez’s is as an everyday player whereas Fontenot’s is almost entirely as a part-time player. But Fontenot as a part-time player is probably hamstringed by the platoon cycle: as a LHB, he gets played against RHP, and so does well enough there, but he gets very little use against LHP, so his LHB skills decay badly, reinforcing the belief that he “can’t hit lefties”.
I reckon that if he is just run out there and played every day against all comers, he would soon enough post acceptable numbers vs. LHP (as almost all batters do against same-side pitching given the opportunity). Remember also that Fontenot has almost never had enough plate appearances to properly reach his capabilities—even in platoon (I reckon that minimum to be around 400 PA/season, a level he only once reached in four years, and then only barely).
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Let's look at another aspect.
Let’s assume that Sanchez and Fontenot really are almost identical players. Why would you play Fontenot solely at second as the ‘starter’, when he has more value due to positional flexibility that Sanchez may lack?
1. age; 2. cost; 3. FSanchez trade value.
You already have lots of positional flexibility in DeRosa and (assuming they’re not so stupid as to let him go) Uribe. Fontenot’s is just a bonus, for those occasional wild games.
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Not sure I'd say 'lots'.Would you be okay with trading Sanchez, and not adding another infielder in his place?
1B – Huff
2B – Sanchez
SS – Uribe
3B – Sandoval
With DeRosa as the only backup, for all 4 spots? Given injury history and age factors, that just seems unwise to me.
I presume you mean Fontenot?
1B – Huff (Ishi) (Belt)
2B – Fontenot (DeRosa)
SS – Uribe (Fontenot w/DeRosa @ 2b)
3B – Sandoval (DeRosa)
The IF definitely feels thin. You’d have to pick up another UT IF, I think.
Yeah, I meant Fontenot, not Sanchez.
It’s why I don’t really advocate getting rid of Sanchez, or Fontenot. I believe both have solid value for us next season. Belt is probably out of the question until September, though, barring injuries or ineffectiveness.
I don't understand the question.
Assume that the roster of position players is:
Huff; Fontenot; Uribe; Sandoval; Posey; Whiteside; DeRosa; Burrell; Torres; Schierholtz; Ross; Rowand; any old reserve SS, even Burriss.
What scenario presents a problem? Any two men can go down and you can still field a full team with no one notably out of position. Remember, a backup doesn’t need to play all positions backed up: for example, if Huff went down, Sandoval could shift to 1B with Uribe taking over at 3B—that way, Uribe is effectively backing up 1B as well as 2B, SS, and 3B.
On that squad, Whiteside, Rowand, and (say) Burriss are expected to see zero play time outside of grossly lop-sided blowouts, injury catastrophes, or 17-inning games. Now try taking out any two men and see if there’s a problem. In fact, most cases where you lose three or even four men in any one game still work.
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My point is, that instead of having a Burriss, who rarely plays
we could have much more depth with Huff/Sanchez/Uribe/Sandoval starting, and Fontenot/DeReosa as depth. This could keep the entire infield fresh, and have suitable depth in case of injuries/tweaks. Unless we could bring something of remarkable interest back in return with a Sanchez, I just don’t see the value in getting rid of him quite yet.
Saving you $6mm
in Freddy’s salary… for a possible 30-40 OPS loss from 2Bman. Granted, you think Fontenot might be able to post a full 90-95 OPS+, which would be a minimal loss.
Where would you use the $6mm? To shore up a 6th starter or relief? Add it to the Burrell pool and shop for a better corner OF?
What do you think we could get in exchange for Freddy on the trade block?
Pretty much.
I view his salary as something we aren’t going to be able to move for its full value, therefore it’s better spent where it is, for effective infield depth.
I bet you could move him for full salary
I think most teams would easily pay $6mm for league avg. 2B’man from the NL champs.
Hell, I’d expect decent value in return.
Question is, what could we ask for in return that would fill a bigger hole
than quality infield depth? Unless we’re getting a legitimate prospect in return, which I’m not entirely sure would be a great idea, considering the state of the team, there aren’t any glaring weaknesses I’d pursue for such amounts.
OK.
Keep FSanchez. Now Uribe goes down; who plays SS? Not DeRosa. Not FSanchez. So Fontenot, faute de mieux. Tolerable. Now Fontenot goes down. Next? FSanchez has, in 746 major-league games, started at SS 36 times, and played there at all in a total of 55 of them; he played there in 1 game in 2007, and none since.
OK, even Darrell Evans played SS for a few games without any disasters, but it’s not how you like to do things. I’m not foaming at the mouth to move FSanchez, but there is certainly a colorable case for it.
Obviously, the superior move is to magically acquire a decent SS, freeing Uribe up for his old role and DeRosa for 2B, with Fontenot the extra insurance piece; then FSanchez can easily be dispensed with. But men able to play decent major-league SS and hit tolerably well also are awfully scarce when it comes to actual, real-world availability to the Giants. (Which is why it would make sense to extract one more year from Renteria, assuming—which I, at least do—that he could be re-upped for a lot less than his nominal option price.)
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I'm not enamored of Rental
Last 3 years:
age 31: 547 PA, 83 OPS+
age 32: 510 PA, 67(!!) OPS+
age 33: 267 PA, 90 OPS+
I wouldn’t mind him @ 500 PA, 90 OPS+, but he hasn’t had that in 3 years.
But he’s a damn sight better than Burriss, I guess, and if he’d re-up for $1-3mm, it might not be a bad option.
But then we have an IF glut again, and we start looking to trade either DeRosa or Sanchez. I wonder if Alderson would take Rowand for Beltran. I doubt it.
On a snowy day in Hell . . .
. . . or maybe not even then.
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Interesting facts about Alderson and Sabean
Aldersdon has never felt the need to state that he isn’t an idiot, and clearly he’s not one. Sabean, on the other hand………
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-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
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Has a team up 2-0 in the World Series.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Keith Law says Belt is ready to come up
http://www.faketeams.com/2010/10/23/1766979/down-on-the-farm-prospect-chat-with-keith-law
That means that we DO NOT want to sign Huff for 2 years. Even a 1 year contract seems kind of overboard. Given Sabes caution, I might expect a midseason call-up, so we’d need someone who could fill in 1B for half the year or so, then get traded. There is a GLUT of replacement to league avg. first basemen on the market this season, I’m sure we could pick someone up for a decent price that would be tradeable mid-season ala. Molina this year. Hell, I’d even go with Ishikawa for half a season if Belt is gonna be up pre-AS break.
In fact, given the Larry Baer quote at the bottom, he may not plan to re-sign Huff or Burrell. Let TI play 1B till you bring up Belt, and spend all the extra money on either Burrell or a better Corner OF’er. Ideally, we trade Sanchez, too, giving us a decent amount of money to play with for corner OF.
Looking at Crawford, however, he doesn’t seem worth the extra money vs. Burrell. Werth may be, however, he is coming off a career year, so will be overvalued. Any other good corner OF’ers out there this year?
Manny Ramirez!!
If he can be had for ~$10-12mm or less on a 1 year contract, he’d be worth it, IMO. OPS+, 06-2010: 165,126,165,153,138
I’d bet he’d post a mid 140’s OPS+, perhaps even 150+. Too bad he seems set on going to the Blue Jays and DH’ing(?) for them?
I'll pass.
Defense matters, especially the way this team is put together.
I think you are over-rating Ross.
As and when Belt arrives, Huff’s bat moves to RF, and the decision to be made at the time is between Ross and Schierholtz, who I still think may have the ability to bat as well or better than Ross if he’s given steady play time on an ongoing basis; but it would be a nice choice to have. There would be no immediate purpose to removing Huff’s bat when Ross’s or Schierholtz’s could go instead.
Or, best of all, if it could somehow be worked, Rowand’s bat goes—even if Schierholtz can’t hit that well, I’d rather have him on the bench than Rowand, even if it comes to a DFA.
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Ross & Schierholtz
Ross is arb-eligible, and with .269 avg, 65 RBI, 14 HR over 569 PA, I would guess he’d remain at his 2010 salary of around $4.5mm even if he was put on waivers at one point. It might even go up to $5.5mm.
I do expect him to stay around 105 OPS+, though. He’s been 107/104/93 for the past 3 seasons, so a rebound is in order.
Agreed on Schierholtz however. He hit .925 then .958 OPS in Fresno at age 23 and 24, but was never given the PA in the majors to show he could translate it. He’ll be 27 next season. Prime for a breakout.
I wouldn’t mind giving him a solid shot in RF next season until Belt comes up. If he can’t hack it by then, move Huff to RF. If he can, then trade Huff or move him to LF.
Looking at Burrell’s numbers, I’d expect a repeat. Last 5 seasons, OPS+: 122, 128, 125, 81 (DH), 119.
Huff is much more inconsistent. Last 5: 107,103, 137, 81, 138.
I’d definitely re-up on Burrell, even for 2-3 years. On Huff, only if you can get him cheap, and only for 1 year.
Trade Ross or don’t offer him arb.
We've done this before elsewhere:
Huff’s numbers this season are almost exactly equal to a simple projection of his career stats, with one exception: walks. For his PA total, the walks are considerably higher, probably as a result of tutelage by Meulens (because several other Giants also have notable increases in walks this year). But, because walks are up, consequently ABs are down, causing a misleading and in a sense artificial boost in batting average, even though the real measure of hitting, hits per plate appearance, was on target (in fact, a tad low). So it is very reasonable to think that Huff’s 2010 performance is largely sustainable, since walks increases tend to be fairly permanent, not spotty from year to year.
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His walk rate is higher, and that is a sustainable skill for older players. His K rate is a tad higher, but that makes sense if he’s taking more pitches. His HR rate is higher, as well, odd for a LH hitter in AT&T.
Hits/PA?? That stat doesn’t make intuitive sense to me. His BAbip are the following for the last 5:
.267, .308, .310, .260, .303 (.293 career).
What worries me is not his BAbip or his BB/PA, it’s his SLG:
.478, .442, .552, .384, .506.
in 2007(age 30), his BAbip was .308, but his SLG was low. His SLG spiked the next year with 32 HR and 48 2B for no apparent reason. This year, it’s gone up again, although not as high as 2007.
Certainly, you may argue that plate discipline should lead to higher SLG, as he gets better pitches to hit. I may buy that, but it’s still a little too volatile for my taste. Where did his power go in 2006, 2008, 2009? How do we know it won’t desert him again in 2011 or 2012?
Sure, 35 extra BB per year is nice, and translates into .050 more OBP, but his SLG was also higher than career last year by .030 as was his BAbip. In a case like Huff’s, I don’t trust career numbers. He’s much too volatile. I’d be fine with him if he could post his career SLG: .476, +/- .040 or so. But his recent few seasons is more like 0.476 +/- 0.100, and the chance that he may post consecutive years at 0.376 SLG isn’t a gamble I’m willing to pin a large multi-year contract on.
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(Delayed by a night’s sleep, albeit not a very good one.)
His HR rate as HRs to what? He hit exactly one home run more than a simple projection of his career shows. (You can, incidentally, look all this up in a convenient tabular form.)
If H/PA doesn’t “make sense”, I don’t know what would. All batting events are properly referred to plate appearances; the “at bat” is an artificial construct left over from the days when everyone believed as Shawon Dunstan does, that walks are “cheating the game” and should essentially be excluded from any measure of batting performance. To flog the obvious: H/PA measures the number of hits a batter got in a given span of plate appearances; to what else would we refer the datum?
As I explained, or tried to explain, Slugging Average, like Batting Average, is artificial, referring TB to AB, not to PA. So, with exactly the same numbers of hits and extra-base hits, a man’s SA can vary hugely (as Huff’s has) from nothing but changes in his walks rate—which, obviously, has nothing to do with his actual effectiveness in getting hits and extra-base hits.
In short, Huff did not have “extra power” in 2010, nor extra hits. He just had more walks, and thus fewer at-bats, in his total plate appearances.
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Huff's problem is Consistency.
You keep on talking about career average performance. The fact is Huff doesn’t perform to his career averages reliably.
Here are his career HR/PA:
0.031
0.018
0.047
0.048
0.043
0.035
0.041
0.025
0.048
0.025
0.039
That’s a lot of volatility. For fun, I decided to project out 2011 stats assuming the EXACT same walk rate, career HBP rate, career 2b-rate, 2010-3b (at&t!) rate.
Here’s his performance:
Using career HR/PA (.035):
.263/.359/.460 (.819 OPS)
Using 2010 HR/PA (.039):
.269/.364/.480 (.844 OPS)
Using 2007/2009 HR/PA (.025):
.253/.350/.418 (.769 OPS)
This tells me his upside is to match his career numbers: .819 OPS +/- .030 (due to BAbip), and his downside is .750 OPS +/- .030 from age-related decline.
I don’t see him repeating his 2010 .891, with both HR/PA and BAbip 10% above career averages.
Toss a coin.
Toss it many times. Repeat that many times. You will no doubt find that the overall average of heads is pretty close to .500. You will also find that each series of tosses “doesn’t perform to [the coin’s] career averages reliably.” From that, you conclude that the most probable percentage of heads in the next toss series is what?
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I'm not arguing what his expected performance should be.
I recognize that career lines or 3-yr avg’s are the best predictors of next year’s performance over single season lines. Age adjusted, preferably.
However, what I’m calling in to question is the variance around that expected value. Huff has extremely high inter-season variability. It seems much higher than many similar players.
His career HR/PA rate may be 0.035. But, going off the past 5 seasons, there’s a 40% chance that he performs at a 0.025 HR/PA rate, and a 60% chance he performs at a rate that exceeds the expected value.
In other words, I’m not arguing the mean of his predicted performance, I’m arguing that the sigma or variance is too high, and thus, he is a higher-risk than the other players and free agents the Giants have.
Additionally, the adage buy low, sell high should apply, and his BABIP is above career, and his HR/PA is above career in 2010. That would make him a sell high candidate.
Following buy low, I now really like Berkman as a FA. Excellent defensive 1B-man coming off a down year who’s ripe for rebound. I mentioned this in the Fanpost about Type B Free Agents.
I think you miss the point.
Perhaps you might want to re-read the post above. You started off well: career lines or 3-yr avg’s are the best predictors of next year’s performance. Then it gets rather fuzzy. What the variance is, and whether it is above or below or right at normal, is immaterial: after all, he is as likely to be over as under. Moreover “buy” and “sell” don’t enter into it: it’s a matter of re-signing, not keep/trade. And his 2010 BABIP was a mere 10 points over his career level.
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Hmm... good point
I see what you’re saying. So, his career numbers are the best predictors, meaning he’ll vary around those with some age-related decline.
Plotting out his HR/PA show a high variance aging curve that follows a classic steep learning curve, plus slow decline curve. Best guess for 2011: 0.031-0.032.
That gives us a line of .262/.358/.448. Sounds very reasonable to me.
That would move him from 5th among 1B’men to 11th among 1B’men. Pretty much just a bit above league average. wOBA ~ .361. Estimated WAR ~4.5.
Fair enough.
Buy low, sell high still applies however. We’d be giving him a contract based on his perceived market value, which is 5.7 WAR or .890 OPS, or 5th top 1Bman in the league. Since his true value is 4.5 WAR, .810 OPS, 11th 1Bman in the league, we’d be overpaying. Now, he may give us a hometown discount which would bring the $$/value in line with his true talent. In that case, it may be worth keeping him, but it’s something to be careful about.
I’m still bullish on Berkman, though.
pre-Belt:
LF: Burrell (DeRosa) (Rowand)
CF: Torres (Rowand) (DeRosa)
RF: Schierholtz (DeRosa)(Rowand)
3b: Panda (Uribe) (Fontenot)
SS: Rental (Uribe) (Fontenot)
2B: Sanchez (Fontenot) (Uribe)
1B: Huff (Uribe) (Buster)
C: Buster (Whiteside) (Panda)
That’s assuming you can get Huff @ a decent low-risk price. Post-belt, you move Huff to RF or trade him if Schierholtz pans out.
If you can’t get Huff at a decent price, then you sign Ross, and try either him or Pat at 1B:
pre-Belt, no Huff:
LF: Ross (DeRosa) (Rowand)
CF: Torres (Rowand) (DeRosa)
RF: Schierholtz (DeRosa)(Rowand)
3b: Panda (Uribe) (Fontenot)
SS: Rental (Uribe) (Fontenot)
2B: Sanchez (Fontenot) (Uribe)
1B: Burrell (Uribe) (Buster)
C: Buster (Whiteside) (Panda)
I might keep Ishi in this case until Burrell is comfy @ first, and go with 11 pitchers. You can always play the DL/option up a 12th pitcher game/option down Whiteside if you need to (assuming Bochy is comfortable with Panda backing up Buster while Whiteside is in Fresno).
Once Belt comes up, Burrell goes to LF, and either Nate or Ross go to the bench/trading block.
In the above situation, with Rental back, I might feel comfortable trading Sanchez, and letting either Uribe or Fontenot take over fulltime 2B. Burriss can ride the I-5 option train for IF depth.
In case Rental doesn’t want to re-up, then you go with:
3B: Panda (DeRosa) (Fontenot)
SS: Uribe (Fontenot) (Burriss)
2B: Sanchez (Fontenot) (DeRosa)
1B: Huff/Burrell (Buster/Panda/Uribe) (DeRosa)
C: Buster (Whiteside) (Panda)
In this situation, I’d probably keep Ross for sure, since DeRosa is mainly IF depth, not OF depth. Again, play the DL/option Burriss game if you need the 12th pitcher.
Concur in part, dissent in part.
But I think we have gone far astray, and all this deserves a FanPost or something of that sort. Depending on how my time goes, I may do one in the next few days, so everyone can jump on and hash out their thoughts.
Right now, it’s late and I’ve got to get up a bit early (for me) tomorrow—or later today, that is.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
re: Burrell
Good article about his years in Philly, and why he was run out.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/columnists/20101030_Sam_Donnellon_.html?page=1&c=y
Interesting ideas
As we’ve seen this year, teams can change drastically over the course of the year, it’s hard to project out. All things being equal, what you’re suggesting makes sense, but I am comforted, if a bit irrationally, at the prospect of having a strong bench.
Renteria returning is interesting – I wouldn’t mind him as on a 1/3 deal or something similar.
Fontenot’s very good UZR numbers at 2B suggest that he could be perhaps passable as a backup shortstop – he has the range, if not the arm. I sincerely hope Fontenot is brought back – he seems to be the very definition of a useful bench player – good defense and a good hitter vs a specific hand (RHP, in Mike’s case) and thus able to make competant spot starts.
DeRosa could probably fill in capably at 2B and 3B and he even seemed, from UZR and limited eyeball tests, to be an average-to-above-average corner outfielder.
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DeRosa hasn't played SS since 2006
Not any significant time, at any rate.
Age 30, 2005, he played 83 innings at short.
Age 31, 2006, he played 42 innings there.
Age 32, 2007, he played 8 innings there.
Age 33, 2008, he played 1 inning there.
I doubt he can play SS anymore. I remember tango did an aging chart basically showing that SS’s typically start losing defensive range after age 28 max. He’ll be 36 next year.
It's certainly a question.
Whoever would fill the Uribe role would not have to be the equivalent in skill of an everyday player at SS, but he would have to be good enough that playing him there a day a week would not be a significant liability. DeRosa is almost surely not that man, but if Fontenot were, DeRosa could “play” SS for relief purposes by playing 2B, with Fontenot moving over to SS for that day.
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I think Fontenot is capable of being that Uribe-like player, although I'd like to see him play far less than Uribe did, ideally.
I’m looking for (but not counting on) Sandoval to bounce back next season. DeRosa to back up 3B/2B/CornerOF and Fontenot to back up 2B/SS. Maybe even do away with Ishi on the roster and have DeRosa as the 1B backup? I’m uncertain – just seems like we have one player too many somewhere along the line. Just wait for one to get hurt, I suppose?
There's one major problem with Fontenot
He surely has the range to be able to play the 3 IF positions – but, Unlike Uribe, FOntenot is hampered by his arm. I bet Fontenot can play SS, but putting him at 3B is asking for weak-armed trouble.
That said, Fontenot could handle the SS duties, and between Sandoval and Uribe being able to slide over when Fontenot plays SS, there really isn’t any reason Font should ever have to play 3B, Bochy dumbness aside.
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The whole concept of 'double backing up' every position.
In emergencies, Fontenot can be the third string third baseman without too many issues. I’d rather see Sandoval/DeRosa there, of course. Just he ‘can’ probably do it.
DeRosa is older and was injured most of the year.
Rowand and DeRosa both under contract for 2011
Nate is arb-eligible, I think.
Torres isn’t, yet.
Ross and Burrell not under contract.
IF they’re both resigned, that’s 5 OF’ers + DeRosa.
Why would Burrell not be back?
He has made plain his desire to end his career here, and that he is very happy here. I would think that almost any offer not an outright insult would be gladly accepted. Especially if Huff is still here.
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Who do you drop from the outfield then? Or do we run with a 6 person outfield?
Or just treat DeRosa as an all purpose utility guy, rather than strictly an outfielder?
Burrell, Torres, Ross, Rowand, Nate, DeRosa.
In case of injury, I personally like the thought of going with a 6 person outfield. It’s always best to plan for the worst possible scenario. And that worst possible scenario would be our starters all going down for some reason or another. DeRose LF, Rowand CF, and Nate RF would be a decent to average outfield in my opinion
Burrell – Ross – Huff is pretty good in terms of “worst possible outfield defense” out of all the credible scenarios an injury or a late-game jumble might see. Just sayin’.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
/wince
Mays Field would be so much bigger if Huff and Burrell were playing the corner outfield spots
It already happened. Tragedy did not ensue. It’s not the preferred solution, but Huff and Burrell are smart players with good gloves who just don’t cover much ground.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
What, and Burrell and Guillen in the outfield was a good thing?
Meh. I’d still like to see a Ross/Torres/Schierholtz outfield next season, but I just don’t see that happening. My love for Nate and his defense is eternal.
I loved Nate ever since I saw him with the classic rolled up pant legs and hitting commando. His arm is just…wow
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graphic please.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Nate hits with no underwear on?
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I imagine that after this year, a few clubs might approach the Giants about a deal for Schierholtz. I wouldn’t write his name in ink yet.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a different Uni
Buster Posey>
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I’m not sure I’m sold on DeRosa ever being an effective major league baseball player again.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m just saying it would be a mistake to not re-sign Burrell under the assumption that DeRosa will be able to play in 2011.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
this
and also applies to plans to play him at SS (!) and 3B.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I recall someone on McC (was it Lars?)
Who rather fervently asserted the same thing about Freddy Sanchez.
We’ll just have to wait and see, but I have faith enough, I suppose.
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You treat DeRosa as an all purpose util until he shows he can't hack it
And I suppose you’ll have to drop either Fontenot, Nate, or Ishikawa.
Starters (8):
Posey/Huff/FSanchez/Uribe (resign him, too, if you can)/Pablo/Burrell/Torres/Ross
Bench (5):
DeRosa/Fontenot/Rowand/Whiteside/Nate
That would be my preference (sorry Travis)
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Rather have TI than Fontenot
Fontenot doesn’t add enough for me. I like TI off the bench as a PH that can mash a double every once and a while.
No chance. We need the infield depth Fontenot provides.
Ishi is largely useless with DeRosa back in the fold. Even without him, Fontenot’s flexibility renders Sandoval able to play first in some permutations.
Infield Depth?
This might sound naive but i think we have plenty of options in the minors that could perform at near-fontenot levels defensively. I mean Manny B, Rohlinger, god forbid the Pharoah or DeRosa could be infield depth as well, i don’t see him getting much OF reps.
Yes, infield depth.
1B – Huff
2B – Sanchez
SS – Uribe
3B – Sandoval
This assumes Renteria is happily retired, of course. This leaves DeRosa to back up third, second, and corner OF spots, and Fontenot to back up second and short primarily. One can argue Rohlinger could provide similar production, but I’d say Fontenot’s bat, especially against RHP, is much better.
At or near defensive levels, sure, but ...
The Giants have a pretty awful history with bringing up below replacement offensive level utility infielders.
Cody Ransom?
Shirley, you're jesting again.
Burriss? Rohlinger? Those guys are very lucky to have seen as much of the majors as they have. The Giants’ best middle-infield depth in the organization are the two guys named Hope and Wish.
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I guess i misunderstood
what was going on originally. I thought we were talking about the last man on the roster type guy who would get mop up innings for defense late in the game, but now it seems like the conversation has turned to a backup infielder with a competent bat as well, which i don’t remember really having this year until Fontenot, So it makes sense to bring him back, it would just suck to see someone like Ishikawa go.
Which is understandable.
Just have to look at the entire team, and we have a shockingly average offense at the moment. So in order to keep more than 11 pitchers on the roster, Ishi is simply the most logical person to go, as sad as that is. He’s a defense first backup first baseman, which while useful for some teams, isn’t a luxury we have room for for the upcoming year.
The problem with the guy you describe is
that this is the Giants… and that kind of player would inevitably pick up 300+ PA because of injuries, promptly posting a .240/.300/.320 line.
Whereas, Fontenot may well rack up near 300 PA due to the nature of him hitting RHP well
and Uribe/Sanchez being better against Lefties, posting a far superior line with at least comparable defense. He’s a very useful piece to have, for minimal cost.
Fontenot doesn't add enough for you?
He can play 3 infield positions. Ishikawa can play one.
Also, “can hit doubles” is a silly way to judge the relationship- especially when you consider that Fontenot has a HIGHER CAREER SLUGGING %.
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well
iI just think Fontenot is more replaceable than someone who has come in, not had a starting role, and still hit rather consistently off the bench. I think we need to keep someone like that around. Or keep them both and jettison an outfielder.
Oh, my.
Ishikawa’s 2010 was the worst of his four-year major-league career, by far. Even at his very best, he wasn’t remotely cose to a major-league corner bat. But because he got a few memorable (sort of) pinch hits, he’s the next peelable banana. Dear me.
Fontenot is not merely a starting-quality player, he is a good starting-quality player for a middle infielder. The rest—Ishikawa, Burriss, Rohlinger—are Velezes: guys who will be forgotten by everone but their immediate families by no later than 17 minutes after they’re off the roster.
That is hard, but straight.
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I agree completely.
on Burriss and Rohlinger, as much as i love them, that they are forgettable and not getting a roster spot next spring. That’s cool and all.
But i think Ishikawa has proven himself in the same fashion as Nate, that he can hang on to a 25 man roster on an NL champion team and provide his share of output. If he has to go for DeRosa, than so be it. I don’t think he’d be forgotten, though.
I'm sure Travis is a good person and a nice guy.
He just doesn’t bring anything to a 25-man roster that we don’t have superior replacements for, with more ability and versatility.
That’s all there is to it.
well it's more to do with him being
a good player than a good guy. I honestly believe he’s a good role player on this team. Nothing to do with him personally.
But yes, i do agree he is probably the most disposable on this team right now, sure.
that's very true.
Who was up here before Fontenot as a defensive replacement though? We tried various 4-A guys who managed to provide late inning defensive replacement.
Fontenot is more than late inning defensive replacement.
For a full season worth of games, he has the bat, especially against RHP, to be an adequate starter on a contending team in the middle infield. This depth, considering Sanchez/Uribe are not locks to remain 100% healthy, is vital.
Is he going to be under team control?
Or is he a FA
I could see the giants re-upping him, but i could also see them going elsewhere and getting something similar for the left side of the infield, or getting a 3B and having Sandoval and DeRosa be the IF depth (as scary as that sounds).
Pretty sure Fontenot is under team control for at least one more season.
He’s the picture of ideal infield depth. Hits RHP well, can play multiple positions reasonably, even if his arm isn’t the strongest around.
I wouldn't
A LH utility guy > A LH defensive 1B
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But.. but...but...
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by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 30, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I wish.
Just probably isn’t entirely logical to sink that much cash into the offense, considering how young our pitching staff is, and how expensive it is going to get in the foreseeable future.
As I've covered ad nauseum elsewhere
Would rather have Werth, and I believe having Werth makes us the absolutel team to beat in the NL West. BUt I digress…
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I'd rather have Crawford than Werth in a vacuum.
But realistically, we probably won’t obtain either. I don’t expect the roster to change much for at least one more year, before we start replacing outdated parts.
Eh
There are really 3 things that Crawford is better at Werth at:
1) Stealing bases
2) Batting average
2) Being 29 years old
Everything else, Werth is either much better at (On-Base, hitting for power) or at least comparable at (Defense).
And for those things, Crawford will probably get 2 more years and 20 million more dollars than Werth. Give me Jayson, douchey “y” and all.
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Crawford is much, much, much better defensively.
Maybe I do overrate defense slightly – but I’d rather have the defense, especially considering the makeup of the Giants, and the park they play in.
Crawford is a lefty
He hit, what, 15 home runs this season? In AT&T, he’d hit less than 10, almost certainly.
His decent OBP is tied very closely to his ability to sustain a high average – Werth takes more walks and hits for more power, and is a righty, which means his power would be less supressed at AT&T.
You’re right – Crawford is a better defender. His career UZR/150 in the OF is around 15 IIRC. But Werth’s is around 10 – still very very good. And Werth plays RF, a more premium position at AT&T park (if nowhere else).
Let me put it to you another way: According to fangraphs WAR, over the past three seasons, Crawford has been worth 15.1 WAR.
Werth over the same time period? 15.1 WAR.
Why would we want to pay significantly more for Crawford? Because he’s 2 years younger than a guy who’s playing like a much younger man and hasn’t spent time on the DL in years?
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Crawford played a significant chunk of games less than Werth
due to an injury three years ago. He’s been a much better player the last two years, and especially this past year. Not to mention that Werth plays half of his games in a bandbox suited for his offensive playstyle. Werth isn’t a bad player by any means, Crawford just fits our park and our needs much, much better.
Also, the age is not an insignificant difference. It could have a pretty sharp drop off in Werth’s defense that has already dropped off sharply the last two seasons.
I’d rather not have either player, but if the Giants are going to pursue one, I would certainly hope it’s Crawford.
QUestion
Crawford for 6 years/ 100 million
Or Werth for 4 years / 80
And, for the record, Werth hit better on the road than at home in 2 of his seasons at philly. And CBP isn’t nearly as much of a bandbox as has been reported.
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Uh.
6 years/100 million hands down.
No chance I’d pay Werth 20 million a year. That’d be a steal of a contract for Crawford, though.
6/120 for Crawford or 4/80 for Werth?
I think Werth’s skills age much better than Crawford’s.
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That'd be a solid
‘neither, thanks’, from my end.
I want no part of Werth for 20 a year, or Crawford for 6 years at 20 a year. I’d do 5/100 for Crawford, though.
At least according to Fangraphs
Werth has been worth (sorry) at least 20 million for three straight seasons now.
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Better uses for our money than market value for an Outfielder
who likely won’t age well.
Really?
If you’re interested, as I am, in giving us the best chance to win championships in the next 2-3 years we have our young pitching core under contract for, I cannot think of a better use for our money than a power-hitting, good-defending, remakably consistant right fielder.
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This is dumb.
Did you know that in 2010, with runners on second and third base, Crawford hit .188/.300/.188 ?
Microsplits are fun! And useless.
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The OF is a four-man rotation.
I dealt with the idea at length here in the early part of the season. To oversimplify, there are four guys who each play 3/4 time. (In reality, it would be 5/6, 5/6, 2/3, 2/3). They would be Burrell, Torres, Schierholtz, and Ross. There is also a fifth OF on the bench so that there is double protection at each position (that is, you can afford the loss of two OFs in a single game). That could be Rowand, if a salary dump is not possible.
And yes, DeRosa—as noted a bit upthread—is in one or more places in the middle/left part of the infield.
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That's reasonable enough I suppose.
Posey -Whiteside
Huff/Sanchez/Uribe/Sandoval – Ishi/DeRosa/Fotenot
Burrell/Torres/Ross – Schierholtz/Rowand
That’d only mean an 11 man pitching staff, however. Would the Giants prefer going with 12? Who would be the odd man out, there, realistically? Just wait for someone’s knee, wrist, or elbow to fall apart?
I’m almost positive they’d break camp with 12 pitchers, or if 11 that one of the position players will be someone that has minor league options left.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone will start the season on the DL?
DeRosa 36
Burrell 34
Rowand 34
Uribe 31
Ross 30
Sanchez 33
For myself, I prefer 13 pitchers, but . . .
. . . it’s important to have every position on the field double-backed-up, and that almost always requires 13 position players. If you want to look back in these forums, somewhere earlier in the year I did a FanPost showing how 10 men could carry the entire load, including adequate days off and always having a couple of solid pinch hitters on the bench. But you always need a fifth outfielder, a third catcher, and a reserve shortstop, even in they’re only there for freak injury combinations or 17-inning games.
One key—though in the real world I do not think the Giants will use it—is that Sandoval is a pretty good catcher, and could spell Posey two days out of six (with Posey playing 1B one of those days to keep his bat in and to give Huff—or Belt—his 1 day in 6 off). It gets a little complex, but you can look up the rotation chart.
As an aside: keep in mind that while pinch hitting isn’t too important—because the off-the-bench penalty pretty much wipes out any platoon advantage—relief pitching is, because relievers don’t seem to have the same sort of performance penalty batters do. (See The Book for stats on platoon and on pinch hitting.)
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Right.
My point is, we currently only have room for 11 pitchers at the start of next season, with the way the roster would be constructed in this manner.
I’d say ditching Ishi is the most reasonable move, as DeRosa, Sandoval, Burrell could all play the ‘backing up 1B role’.
C – Posey – Whiteside – (Sandoval)
1B – Huff – (Sandoval) – (DeRosa)
2B – Sanchez – Fontenot – (DeRosa)
SS – Uribe – (Fontenot) – (DeRosa)
3B – Sandoval – (DeRosa) – (Fontenot)
LF – Burrell – (Rowand) – (Schierholtz)
CF – Torres – (Rowand) – (Schierholtz)
RF – Ross – (Rowand) – (Schierholtz)
This still only leaves room for 12 relief pitchers. Ditching Whiteside for Sandoval as the backup Catcher ‘could’ work to free up one more pitching slot, but… I’d rather see Pablo focus on retaining his hitting stroke, while working on conditioning. It also would mean the Catching slot isn’t double backed up. Unless you count dragging Nate in, or something.
Hey!
I posted this upthread, jerk!
Seriously though, Ishi is the most logical guy to let go with DeRosa coming back if you want to bring back Huff, Uribe, and Burrel. Dude palys one non-premium position and isn’t a very good hitter.
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Yup.
Ishikawa seems to be a very fine person, but that’s one of the hard truths of the game, that sometimes nice guys just have to go. He’s had a good ride with the Giants, and one hopes that he would find a place with some other organization whose immediate needs he might better fit, but really, on a serious team there is utterly no place for a mainly-defense first baseman. And no matter what, he’s been in a World Series.
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Nope, he's out of options
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I hope we improve our back up Catcher
Posey’s going to need some rest (so he doesn’t get overworked a la SIRM) I think a guy like Gerald Laird makes sense for us
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How about a guy . . .
. . . named Pablo Sandoval? His entire career through the minors and into the majors was as a catcher, and he was a pretty good one. (And it might help control the weight.)
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I would definitely move him back behind the plate
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I'm still not entirely willing to give up on Sandoval
as our starting third baseman, with a Corner Infield quality bat.
I’m hoping he puts the work in this offseason, and can recapture his swing.
Honestly, just put him on weight-watchers
And his performance would probably improve significantly.
So much talent… but he’s gotta get his ass in gear. The extra pounds may make him a lovable Panda, but they’re not conducive to a major league athlete trying to improve and grow into his peak years.
Can they put weight clauses in his contract?
I remember something about this, but maybe it was another sport.
That happens
The most recent example is that when the Dodgers signed Ronnie Belliard this past offseason his contract only became guaranteed if he weighed under 210 lbs (or made the opening day roster). He did make the opening day roster but never made weight
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He's not arb-eligible to 2012, though
Well, he won’t be getting a big raise till 2012, so that won’t motivate him. Here’s hoping he motivates himself. He is still crazy young and has enormous potential.
Maybe losing his starting spot in the post season will light a fire under his ass next year.
He does still have options though
So if he doesn’t make weight the team could send him back down to Fresno
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Is there any chance that Posey is a passable 3B?
Because a Sandoval/Posey 3B/C platoon with Posey behind the plate 75% of the time seems ideal.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Sandoval/Posey 1B platoon in the future
with a 3B picked up through FA/Trade, perhaps? Who knows. I’m still not going to write off a rejuvenated Sandoval coming into ST next season.
Not a chance he even gets a look there.
Eventually I expect him to be a corner outfielder, but not for many years.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it does.
Posey is probably well capable of handling 3B well; but, even if he’s not, you can get nearly the same effect in the way I mentioned earlier—on a six-day cycle (just a convenient way to think of it), this:
Sandoval: 3B, 3; C, 2; off, 1
Posey: C, 4: 1B, 1; off, 1.
Uribe: 3B, 3; 2B, 1; SS,1; off, 1. (or “Uribe-type” player, such as DeRosa)
Huff and the second baseman and shortstop, whoever they are, play 5 days each and get 1 off each.
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Well
If Torres is healthy for a season, there’s really no reason for him to play 120 game (or the 3/4 you suggest).
Ross is young(ish) and without significant injury history also – he should start more than 3/4 of the games unless you have someone off the bench who can play RF and hit righties, which is a quantity we lack.
Burrell would probably benefit from 3/4 service, but I don’t see any reason to plan from the start to only give 3/4 playing time to Ross and Torres.
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Didn’t Ross destroy his knee as a Tiger?
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd assume those are roughish numbers.
I’d rather see something like…
Torres 90%
Ross 85%
Burrell 75%
Nate 25%
Rowand 15%
DeRosa 10%
In the Outfield, or something like that. DeRosa also being the backup supersub at Third/Second.
Rest.
It can really make a difference in the dog days if your guys are getting some regular rest (and have been through the season). I said the “3/4” was a simplification: for the two biggest OF bats, it would be 5/6 play time, which is essentially a day a week off, whereas for the two slightly lesser bats, Schierholtz and Ross, it would be 2/3 time (two days on, one off, out of every six). If necessary, fine tuning can be done as the season wears on, but I think it unlikely that the relative strengths of those men’s offenses will change much in 2011.
My belief, founded on some old but extensive research, is that a man needs something over half-time play—say 2/3 or so—to stay fully able to deliver at his full capacity.
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Trade Rowand or DeRosa?
or Zito? LOL.
Any of these albatross contracts look vaguely interesting?
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/11484/toxicology-report-bad-contracts-to-swap
I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on Kazmir, Aaron Cook, or Gil Meche to add some starting pitching depth. Right now, if anyone goes down (including Zito) there is NO ONE to step into the rotation.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind
Daisuke but Sox probably wouldn’t take either Zito or Rowand
Hafner and Figgins are also interesting
Isn’t Hafner terrible at 1st?
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Very, very true.
And even absent crippling injury, the bullpen needs at least one man who can step in and give you four or five innings on occasion if the starter falters out of the box.
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I'm interested in Beltran
Figgins too.
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Eh.
Not at those contracts.
I’m comfortable with Torres in center and Sanchez at second, considering the cost.
I think the idea is to swap Rowand/Zito for one of those contracts.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, well.
Pretty much no chance that would happen.
Well Figgins would go back to 3rd
and I’d be willing to gamble on Beltran’s upside for 1 year.
Depending on the players we send back, of course
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Money
“Making plain” is not the same as signing a contract. I wish I could get motivated and research which other NL clubs need a LF for 2011, but I suspect there are quite a few that do and that can make the nut financially.
Also “end his career” is non-specific in terms of contract length. Succession of one year contract with performance bonuses? That might work, but even a two-year deal has to be viewed cautiously.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
DH

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sand trap?
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
The inside of Mitch Williams' colon
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 29, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, technically it's the same thing since Williams' head is planted firmly in his rectum.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been waiting for over an hour for an explanation!
I give up, it’s just one of the many mysteries of McC
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Sand + Oval = Sandoval
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
you sir, are a genius
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG that’s it?
/ultimate facepalm
i am ashamed, please forgive me McC
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your NOOB is showing again!
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
OH that makes so much more sense. I kept getting frustrated with what the fuck “OvalSand” was supposed to mean
Yeah, it is a little easier to figure out if you’re from the Baltimore suburbs where people have the awful habit of putting the stress on the first syllable when it it doesn’t belong there. Grew up listening to MaTInez pronounced MARTinez., etc.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
My dad from suburban Baltimore is staying with me over the weekend. Curse their 3 hour time difference! I praise that he is asleep by 10PM, but BLAST that he must wake me up at 3AM as it’s PANCAKE TIME!
by Snewman1209 on Oct 30, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Pancake Time? That sounds amazing
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
IKR? Sleep over at Snewman’s place!!!! I’ll bring the Ouija board!
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Warning: Harry Potter Reference in 3.... 2....1
ooh ooh I’ll bring the invisibility cloak to fudge up the Ouija board and scare all of y’all
HP FTW!
never be ashamed of a HP reference :)
20 days and counting!!! :D
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neither, that stuff is LAME, if I’m gonna watch vampires and werewolves it’s Being Human FTW (BBC)
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yay! :D there’s a Being Human marathon all day Sunday for Halloween, I highly recommend it if you are in need of initiation ;) BBC > american tv IMO
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exactly! if it’s not British, it’s not worth watching!
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House!
I do love the show, but I haven’t kept up with happenings since… a bit ago. What season is it in, these days?
season 7! him and Cuddy have been gettin it on! it’s so bizarre! :D
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but I thought that whole thing came after she asked him to uh, donate
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you realize that i’m just pulling this crap out of what I remember my sister telling me about some fanfictions she’s read right? XD
yeah, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility, that’s what’s so great! besides, I have yet to see the finale from that season all the way through :(
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O_o I think you just summed up what it’s like to be a Giants fan!
/que 80’s movie clap
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you’re the genius who put the two words together! check out the big brain on Mdizzle! (please excuse my excessive use of movie quotes this evening, don’t know why I’m doing that)
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u guys are so funny, I came here for the Giants torture, I stay for the lulz
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high five, same here. though technically i;m still a noob here. I think… I don’t participate in GT’s much because I’m too busy taking people’s Blood Pressure, Taking blood, or otherwise not killing a patient.
and we thank you for it ;)…but if you haven’t noticed, I’m still pretty n00bish myself, so we’re all in this together!
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We’re all in this together.
Once we know
That we are
We’re all stars
And we see that
We’re all in this together
And it shows
When we stand
Hand in hand
Make our dreams come true
/gags
I think I just thew up a little
plz, don’t do that again :( HSM needs to die a slow and painful death for ruining Disney
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best remedy since ipecac to induce vomiting? the Dumbdown Disney Trifecta!
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I miss the actual cartoons. I miss watching Mickey and the gang on disney. I miss watching Face on Nick Jr. I miss when cartoons were actually worth waking up early for on Saturday Mornings. I miss Keenan and Kel. DAMNIT I MISS THE NINETIES >.>
good times…although it’s hard to top the cartoons of my childhood (smurfs, carebears, fat albert, muppet babies, thundercats, etc) I had it bad for PowerPuff Girls, Fosters and Samurai Jack!
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/me blinks.
Okay, so I’m about 4 seasons behind. I feel old. It’s almost like I’ve been exceptionally busy the past year or two. Or three.
funny story, in HS my friends and I won $500 bucks because they dressed me up like HP and I won this contest! apparently the resemblance is uncanny with long hair
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
TIm wasn’t in the MLB yet, when I was in HS
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
well done, I have my Hermione costume somewhere in the depths of my closet!
/whispers
my n00b is about to show again, don’t tell anyone-but what is Big Time Timmy JIm? I keep seeing it and I have no idea where that came from-it’s not the snuggie wizard thing is it? SHHHHHH!!
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here ya go girl!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfI8EjoBJYU
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
best commercial ever
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
whaaaaa?
ok, I’ve watched it about 10x now, what the hell does he say after “Hey this is the Franchise”?
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he says “Franchise? That’s arrogant”
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s arrogant
this is the freaky franchise here
big time timmy jim…no one even calls me that.
Hi this is Tim Lincecum if you leave your name and number I’ll /knock on door “Hey Big Time TImmy Jim”
how have I missed this jem?! thanks you guys!
btw, I’m still laughing!
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LOL the Josh Hamilton one is pretty funny too
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
nah I was talking about the older one from after the Home Run Derby a couple of years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBsjR5uTUeY&NR=1
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 30, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
he was typing “the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog” it’s a typing practice thing for speed.
just watched the HR derby one, awww! :(
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pssh age is just a number. Plus we only started using that in computer class in like my seventh grade? It was kinda fun/funny
Oregon Trail was legit! I don’t know anyone who survived…I always ended up drowning in the river crossing or everyone died of disease. I think once a guy died of a broken arm WTF?
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what are you WTF-ing? If bone marrow gets into the blood stream it can lead to a fat embolism. While rare, it is lethal
dammit jim, I’m a teacher, not a doctor! (OMG stop me before I throw myself over the balcony from abusing pop culture quotes!)
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You’re a teacher, I’m a nurse. What’s the difference really? You teach a kid how to not be stupid, I teach a person how to not be stupid enough to get him/herself killed. What’s the difference?
um, ok, and who knew that bone marrow in bloodstream can cause an embolism? not me! But if you need to know the rules for “silent /e/”, I’m your gurl!
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Nope
I’m not telling.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
srsly?
or do I need to get a rope to climb out of the /chasm with?
btw, I do so hate that this column has now become so narrow!
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ICWYDT
I like going with Pablo at DH. I still think he has the most offensive upside of anyone on the bench. Assuming Burrell didn’t want to DH, I prefer Pablo over anyone else.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially against Lewis.
I’d be okay with doing something different against Lee down in Texas, though I’m not entirely sure what that’d be yet.
Yeah, I’m not sure about against a left hander. Honestly, maybe DH Burrell and put Rowand in somewhere – hopefully right with Andres staying in center, but I don’t see Bochy doing that. So probably Rowand in center, Andres in right, Ross in left.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
This was my thought.
Rowand against a strike throwing left hander isn’t really an awful play.
Against Lee:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Burrell DH
Posey C
Ross RF
Huff 1B
Uribe 3B
Renteria SS
Rowand LF
Against Lewis/Hunter:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Huff 1B
Posey C
Burrell LF
Ross RF
Sandoval DH
Uribe 3B
Renteria SS
I would switch Ross and Rowand defensively if Rowand is better (I don’t know off the top of my head). Other than that, seems good to me.
Man, we rosterbate even when there isn’t really rosterbation to be done. Ah, baseball.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I was under the impression
that Ross had a better arm than Rowand, hence why I put him in right, and Rowand in left. Might be wrong, who knows. Interchangeable really.
Yeah-doesn’t much matter either way.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel so dirty…and yet so good…
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Juan Uribe has been outstanding so far this postseason
but man, I can see him being totally outmatched by Colby Lewis in Game Three. From what I’ve seen of Lewis, breaking stuff down and away is his preferred two-strike approach, and, well…
Torres, Huff and Pablo are the sources of offense that we need to count on, probably. Or, who knows? Maybe Jazz Hands will happen again, or Rent can park one 3 inches over the left field wall. This World Series thing is sort of crazy.
Heh. Yeah, he struggled a bit at the plate against Atlanta, but he's been fine the last two series'.
Small Sample Size in all applicable situations, of course.
Totally sustainable.
If his name rhymed with arry onds.
Palm Fronds = Jazz Hands in an alternate universe where sentient trees play baseball.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 29, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
as long as 3 more games
is part of that small sample, I don’t care.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Hi
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
WHY WOULD YOU POST THIS HERE?
Go fuck yourself!
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry about that, I’ve been spending too much time reading LSB lately.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 29, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve pretty much written them off. I’ve interacted well with philkid on other forums, and I love Jason Parks, but the most of that place seems like a bunch of juggalos.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
HOW DOES IT WORK?
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
At one point in the GDT some fan from another blog was asking about a man that FOX was showing during the game (Jon Daniels) and they told him/her to fuck off and wouldn’t give them an answer. It didn’t seem like they were trolling at all. It was really WTF.
Buon giorno.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Outrage
Anyone else hear this about AJ Pureshitski claiming Giants fans stole the Uribe Chant from the 2005 White Sox fans?!? OUTRAGE! BAD HAIR! GIDP! JOE NATHAN!
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 29, 2010 11:38 PM PDT reply actions
I still LOL at Barrett clockin’ the crap outta him!
"throwing out runners? I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey
by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The look on Pierzynski’s face is pretty priceless.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
wow and that cubs guy did it with closed eyes!
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Always close your eyes
before you lay one on someone.
Something isn’t quite right here, but I can’t spot it.
someone mentioned it on the post or post-post GT last night
what an asshat, and to think I thought he was cute BLECH! Is it really possible that someone who gets paid to play baseball doesn’t know enough about it’s past to make such a stupid comment? Or is it /east coast bias and he believes that Jose & Juan are interchangeable just like the dipshits at ESPN, MLB, FOX et. al think?
oh and that pic of a Cub (sorry, don’t know who it is) about to deck AJ…I wish he would
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
he did… and his name is Michael Barrett.
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by LincecumFTK on Oct 29, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That was some great Catcher on Catcher action. No doubt.
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 29, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That used to be the #1 GIS result for 'A.J. Pierzynski'
Now it’s fallen all the way to the third page. :(
Making calculations based upon statiscal histori-garbage rather than situation reality since 1980
Adopted Giant: Kaohi Downing, your next dominant reliever 1.47 ERA in S-K, with 34 K in 42 IP. Uh, just ignore his age and the walks, please!
It’s okay, we all make mistakes.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 29, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
speaking of cute players in the World Series
CJ Wilson is cute, I agree.
Just look at the hair..Can we have him as pitcher next year??
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 30, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
lol I was thinking the same thing
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 30, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Alexi Ogando must have just missed the cut.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Aw. Travis made the cut. But surely there are better pictures of Jonathan Sanchez. I’m dubious about Burrell somehow being hotter than the 42 guys who didn’t get on the list.
I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing Matt Cain.
The Machine
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Hahahaha what a moron.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Mychael Urban trying to find out who The Machine is
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=9CxXx5Vepwc8Vf4kpuIeVvs55U_bYgsu
I think it’s either Urban or Huff..lol
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
I still contend The Machine is Tony Bennett. That old man can sing… and what a stunning physique.
"Friends, San Franciscans, Countrymen....Humm Baby."
by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 30, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about that...
it’s gotta be the Panda.
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 30, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
haha omg Pat Burrell is the last person I would think to be the Machine
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 30, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
He's one of the first people I'd think of.
YOUR PUSSY IS JEALOUS YOUR PUSSY IS JEALOUS.
Just sayin’.
my first guess was actually Huff, what with all the thong thing..
It's an F-Yeah kind of moment.
by girltothemax on Oct 30, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
More Game 2 replay random thoughts
Kinsler seriously missed a homer by 1/2 an inch, if that.
In other news, Giants sign left-center field wall to 4 year/$56m contract.
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by The Nuschlerian Candidate on Oct 30, 2010 12:33 AM PDT reply actions
If he pulls it a little more to the left, it’s gone.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants 2, Rangers 1
Although I liked his gumby shoulders and whineface as he pondered the infinite wisdom of HOK Sport.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
We don't need to play .400 baseball.
We need to keep Texas from playing .800 baseball.
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Bingo.
That’s the way to think of it: Texas would need to win 4 out of the next 5. Not likely, even at 50-50 game chances.
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Yes but
Texas is likely >50% to win each of the next 3 games.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
If Texas had a 60% chance of winning in each of the next 3 games, they would have a 21.6% chance of winning all 3.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
And a 14.4% of winning 2 out of 3.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
The math went sideways.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's just make this easy
According to Vegas, Texas has a 27% chance of winning the series (i.e., winning 4 out of the next 5).
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s money to be made.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions

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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Just using off the cuff estimates, I think 27% is about right
Rangers win probabilities:
Game 3 (Sanchez/Lewis): 60%
Game 4 (Bumgarner/Hunter): 55%
Game 5 (Lincecum/Lee): 65%
Game 6 (Cain/Wilson): 48%
Game 7 (Sanchez/Lewis): 51%
If you work it out using those numbers, it comes out to a 26.6% chance of them winning the series.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 30, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
But your numbers mean that the Rangers are favored in every game from now on! They just lost the first two games by like ten runs.
by parisspleen1313 on Oct 30, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
What I hate is
There are way too many people who are saying this series is over when it isn’t even close to be over. People are are talking about parades and World Series MVP.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Yeah, well. I ignore those people.
Texas is a very good team, with a very good bullpen, that had two bad games. We’re going to Texas, and there will be torture inside.
I embrace it.
There's nothing wrong with optimism
…unless you’re in the playoffs/championships. It’s never over until the trophy is in a team’s hands. We learned that the hard way 8 years ago.
Pretty much.
Anything can happen. Two games is still a lot of wins to be had against a high quality team. Hell, five outs are a lot to get against a high quality team.
Let’s go into Texas, take it one game at a time, and hope to swipe one of the next two games from them, at the very least.
As I've heard elsewhere...
“The series doesn’t officially begin until the visiting team wins a game”
If they can sneak a W in game 3 or 4, I really like their chances. But until then….
I really don’t want to come back home down 2-3.
/banned
reason: Quoting Pat Riley.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 30, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
It's still a valid point, however.
I’ve seen far too many tennis metaphors regarding the Giants ‘holding serve’, but the point remains. Home Field advantage helps, yes, but winning at least one game on the road is almost a necessity for a team to win a series, even with home field advantage.
or put another way
getting swept for 3 games in TX including a loss by Timmy would not really do much for Giants’ morale and put them in the position of getting a mini-sweep at home. Probably without multiple 8th inning walks and the CF wall bounce.
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
No such thing as momentum, in my mind. Have you been 'watching' the same playoffs I have?
Every game is a new game. No series is over until it is over. Should we lose all 3 in Texas, all that means is we have to take care of business back home, once more. I’d prefer to take at least one, of course, and I expect we will. Game 3 or Game 4. If Timmy loses to Cliff Lee, in Texas, with the Rangers facing elimination, I don’t think that’s going to hurt morale much at all.
no, I haven't watched any
that’s why I didn’t use the word “momentum”.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The 1987 WS never really happened then
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Nor the 1991 and 2001 world series
we are still waiting for those 2 to get underway…
91 too?
Man, the Twins really don’t like it when the visiting team wins in the world series.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
2004 WS too
Red Sox still haven’t beaten the curse!
by Murray, Present on Oct 30, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm confused...
The visiting team won games 3 and 4 in the 2004 WS.
You know when the Giants have a good chance
up 3-0, 15-0 in the bottom of the ninth, 0-2, and batter swung and missed and the ball has not reached the catcher’s mitt yet…then that’s a good chance…even then there is a possibility of losing
At that point, I’ll begin to feel comfortable about taking the NL West.
by non sequitur on Oct 30, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL clown ball rules!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Giants ever win the World Series
I will watch THE game 6 to get an appreciation for winning the whole thing.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I'm not sure to what you are referring sir
And I am distressed that you would talk of such things.
Ah, Larry Baer: a man with his eye on the ball.
From USA Today’s web site:
"I think the main thing is the momentum this gives you for naming rights in the ballpark, season tickets, sponsorship sales,‘’ Baer says, "and the pricing that goes along with it. We have a chance to get to levels when we first opened the ballpark [11 years ago].Oohhkayyy—that’s “the main thing”. Got it.
“What’s really important is that the fans see the players they can grow with. You look at our players, and with the exception of Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell, these guys are all signed for next year and beyond.
Um, is that saying they’ve done a quick, secret re-up with Uribe and Ross? Or is it saying Larry isn’t quite on top of things?
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To be fair Ross is arb eligible
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
the article is titled
“World Series: Financial Windfall for Rangers, Giants”.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I know. Heaven forfend the team financial executive from discussing the main thing with regards to financial windfall in an article about profits.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Good God in heaven!
THE MAIN THING….
For about two weeks I’ve been able to ignore/forget my general loathing of the Giants FO, and then you have to spoil my temporary amnesia with this.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, when asked about the financial impact of the postseason, wouldn’t you put it in those terms?
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by shanghaijim on Oct 30, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, Money is the one reason I wouldn't mind seeing game 6.
The more money the Giants can make this postseason, the more they can put towards payroll. If extending the series out to game 6 could add even $1mm to the payroll next year, would it be worth it?
Game 7, of course, wouldn’t be worth it. Too much torture!
Risking anything isn't worth it.
Win it as soon as we can. If that means in Texas? I’m okay with that.
Do I expect the series to come back to San Francisco? Yes.
Do I want it to? Hell no.
The Giants are doing fine financially, so please, be exceedingly careful in what you wish for.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 30, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Game 3 First Pitch in 11 hours
OMFWTG!!!
Let’s get fired up. Le’s go Giants.
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Can I be perfectly honest right now?
I didn’t read this, but I read about half the comments. I kept seeing bits about cheese, and I didn’t get it until just now that his name was Colby. I feel very silly.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Don't think you missed a ton.
Cheese puns, discussion about the roster for next year, and a bit of bantering about pablo’s bat vs. ishi’s bat in the lineup.
I just meant I feel dumb for not linking the cheese-puns to the fact he's named "Colby."
I mean, this is coming from someone who has around 50 tweets of nothing but puns about corn.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Ah, yeah.
I’m actually primarily a Cardinals fan, so I’m used to the cheese puns, considering our Center Fielder.
That would be tempting.
World Series’ don’t happen all that often, but a decision people need to make for themselves. Shit ain’t cheap.
you mean KNBR?
I’d think Marty Lurie’s pre-game marathon should be on pretty soon. The Sat. AM snake oil guy is on at the moment, but maybe Lurie comes on at the top of the hour.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
never mind
ESPN college FB
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
MLB Network
is re-running Game 1.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
To Quote a wise man
You Can’t Own Grass
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Oct 30, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions
/Prop 19'd
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
TIMMY'S LAW!
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 30, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
You can own dirt, though.
-Dallas Braden
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Go Giants. Go Sharks Go Earthquakes.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Really?
The Giants are in the World Series, and you’re cheering for the Earthquakes?
/Pacific Rimshot
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
No… because in 1989, see… ahhhh, never mind.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
4 starters.
Just read the John Schiegel article on the starting pitchers.
Makes me think of all of the trade em! talk.
Makes me think of all of the don’t you dare trade em talk.
Makes me want to give recognition to Sabes and company for not trading them in Grant style. STAY ON TARGET
Makes me want to throw out the airlock anyone who said we need to trade x pitcher for a big bat.
But in reality, all is forgiven.
3 and 4 need step up and come up big to seal it..
Stay on target!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 30, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
3 and 4 make me nervous
I think the series has a good chance to really turn around here. I hate to take too much from his first start, but Sanchez is scaring me again. Then, you’ve got newb Bumgarner in the WS.
If those two go poorly, we’ve got to hope for another good performance against Lee. UGH.
Scared poster is scared.
newb Bumgarner
is just fine with me, especially if it means Lee on short rest (yes, I know hired gun won’t blah blah blah).
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Rangers win tonight
I’d be surprised if they throw Lee out there with short rest, but it wouldn’t be beyond belief. I mean, their 4th starter is some epic level of fail compared to the Giants.
We’ll see.
I feel confident I will be crying at some point in the next few days. Hope it’s happiness.
plus
I haven’t heard much talk of starting Holland instead of Tommy Hunter lately, either… I guess it’s still theoretically possible.
Also, tell strongbad I said hi.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez's first start of the post-season was a gem
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Random question
Is there a way to view the posting rules that you see before you sign up? I haven’t figured out how to view them again once you join.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Who are you after?
Spill the beans. I may be a newb, but I smell a rat ;-)
Not after anybody. I’m just curious. It’s been so long I can’t remember word one of the thing.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Slightly OT: Keith Law on the Giants farm-system
Talking about the AFL game right now: Great AB for Belt ends with a line drive single to left. Culberson, who BB’d, goes to 3rd. It’s a #sfgiants world; we’re just living in it .
I would have thought our farm system was bottom 5 because of Posey and Bumgarner’s graduation, but Wheeler, Belt can both reasonably claim to be top 50 prospects, and one of Culberson, Pegeuro, Neal etc may be able to make a stake for top 100. Its still a bottom half system, but not quite bare bones.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Giants system had the best overall record this last year
I know overall record isn’t super accurate, but it definitely correlates with system strength. I doubt they’re bottom half.
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For your own safety, avoid this dreck at all costs.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
what the hell
justin bieber on and wearing a rangers jacket with a giants hat???
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Oct 30, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
The sun is about to come up
and I watching the World Series in Chinese.
Never would have predicted this as a kid.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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