Rangers Hitting Preview, Part I
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 26, 2010 12:00 AM PDT
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A possible permutation of the Rangers’ starting eight in San Francisco:
Elvis Andrus - SS
Michael Young - 3B
Josh Hamilton - CF
Vlad Guerrero - RF
Nelson Cruz - LF
Ian Kinsler - 2B
Bengie Molina - C
Mitch Moreland - 1B
Oh, no. What kind of steamroller of an offense would have the archetype of a cleanup hitter down in the seventh spot? Ye gods.
Ahem. One by one:
Elvis Andrus
I would trade a lot of things for Andrus. You, for example. I would trade you, the person reading this, to some sort of freaky, intergalactic, spice-smuggling, sex-trade slave ring if the Giants could get Andrus. Doesn’t sound like much, but my wife reads this site. Sorry, snookums. At least I’m honest with my feelings. And Andrus is going to be a fantastic, once-in-a-generation talent with speed, defense, and offense from a premium position.
Right now, though, Andrus hits like Mike Fontenot. Runs better, fields short better, but hits like Mike Fontenot. Scrappy, slappy, and patient enough, but not quite a top-of-the-order force just yet. Next year, maybe. Wait a couple of weeks, at least, Elvis.
If Andrus gets on base against Lincecum, he’ll run wild, Posey or not.
Michael Young
Young is one of those players that makes you realize how old you are. He’s a young hitter on the rise. One of these days he’ll...wait...what?...franchise leader in hits?...dang. That went quickly. He’s not as good as he was when he was getting regular MVP votes, but he’s still pretty danged good. Good teams have players like this festooned up and down the lineup -- not elite, but productive enough to worry you every time he comes up. Imagine a rich man's Freddy Sanchez with a lot more power and an unremarkable glove.
Josh Hamilton
If you’re tired of his story, you’re a desensitized pinko cynic. You annoy people at parties, too. Seriously, no one even knows how you were even invited. Stop putting your fingers in the salsa every time you dip a torilla chip, you sick freak. Dude kicked heroin -- heroin! -- to come back and, after 150 or so at-bats above A-ball, he became one of the best players on the planet. Insane. Awesome. I hope he goes 1-for-12 in the series with 11 strikeouts.
Vlad Guerrero
Got a telegram from the main office. Apparently, people who root for teams that start Pat Burrell in left field are legally prohibited from making fun of the idea of Vlad in right field at AT&T Park. Dang. My "Top Ten Pieces of Clothing Vladimir Guerrero Will Swallow While Playing Right in San Francisco" bit is dead on the vine. Doesn’t matter. There are other ways to poke fun. For example, the Rangers could have had Jim Brower, Scott Eyre, Matt Herges, Dustin Hermanson, Brett Tomko, A.J. Pierzynski, Pedro Feliz, J.T. Snow, Jeffrey Hammonds, Dustan Mohr, and Michael Tucker for what they paid for Vlad, but instead they got snookered into paying for just one productive hitter. Those saps!
I don’t like Vlad against the middle part of the Giants bullpen -- Mota, RamRam, et al -- one bit. He isn’t the magic force of nature that he was with the Expos, but he’s still a pretty solid hitter.
Next up...what kind of team-of-the-century can afford to bury a proven cleanup hitter in the bottom of their order? What manner of witchery is this I don’t even know what in the absolute hell I am 32 and what is this? That’s something that can only be contained in another post.
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You, for example. I would trade you, the person reading this, to some sort of freaky, intergalactic, spice-smuggling, sex-trade slave ring if the Giants could get Andrus.
I thought we had something special, Grant. Now you’re saying you’d give it all up for VRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM?
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
Shows how little he thinks of us
That he’d trade us for a guy with a .301 SLG.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yeah you guys are screwed. Those of us who pay for McC premium should be ok though.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
But I’m gritty! GRITTY!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Could've been worse
At least you weren’t traded for cash.
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or the twitter guy.
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I’ll give ya Ratto AND jhiat00 for the twitter guy… whaddya say?
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I feeel Gritty!
Oh so Griity!
I’m Gritty,
And scrappy!
And whiiiiiite
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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by zenbitz on Oct 26, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Sorry, snookums.
I am going to die.
by The Enchanter on Oct 26, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I initially read that as “Sorry, Snooki” and thought Grant had jumped the shark by dropping Jersey Shore references into his posts.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I’d trade the Situation for Andrus. I mean, Texas would have to throw in some money, but I’d do it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, at least you’d get to have freaky alien sex, right?
There is freaky alien sex involved, Grant, right?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you say freaky alien sex? (safe for work—alien content)
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Ha! That’s awesome.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
So, so many ribeyes
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 26, 2010 12:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
freaky intergalactice,sex-trade slave ring?
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
I wonder if this is where Lars is?
Grant, did you trade Lars for Cody Ross?
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Molina batting 7th lol @ washington
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 26, 2010 12:11 AM PDT reply actions
Well, you don't want to put him in front of the pitcher
The Rangers might set a record for bunting into double plays.
Also, WTF
Their overpaid player is a solid hitter (Young) our overpaid player(s) are off the roster or forced into platoons because of how bad he hits RHPs.
It’s wrong.
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 26, 2010 12:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
hmm suspiciously close to Grim LeRogue
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Oct 26, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Rude: I, grim AL rover
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
BAD NEWS
John Hirschbeck is on the crew.
Jesus, that guy does not belong anywhere near a MLB game, let alone a WS game.
Sam Holbrook and BIll Miller will be joined by veteran umpires John Hirschbeck, Gary Darling, Mike Winters and Jeff Kellogg. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because an official announcement hasn’t been made.
if the Dodgers win the World Series, I will set myself on fire
need odds
which player, which team is he most likely to slur?
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Gary Darling? Really? Ugh
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 26, 2010 12:31 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Gary Darling: Born in San Francisco in 1957
Denying it ever since
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Gary Darling
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I just remember him in the Giants/Dodgers series last year...
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 26, 2010 12:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
bq.On April 29, 2008, in the seventh inning of a game between the San Francisco Giants and Colorado Rockies, Darling called a balk against Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum, bringing home the winning run from third base in the form of Chris Iannetta. Giants manager Bruce Bochy was ejected by Darling for protesting the call. On the play, catcher Bengie Molina had asked for a timeout, and Darling raised his hands as if to signal the timeout, but then called the balk and directed Iannetta home. In a later press interview, Darling explained the confusion by saying that “Lincecum flinched,” adding that “Bengie was giving him the signs. Then (Lincecum) started and stopped. Bengie tried to cover for him by calling the timeout.” Iannetta’s run proved to be the winning margin in the game, giving Lincecum his first loss of the season.
…
On August 12, 2009, in the ninth inning of a game between the San Francisco Giants and the Los Angeles Dodgers, Darling ejected Giants manager Bruce Bochy in the second inning and bench coach Ron Wotus in the ninth inning for arguing calls he’d made at first base. In the ninth inning, Darling called Dodger shortshop Rafael Furcal safe on an infield ground ball despite the fact that replays showed Furcal was clearly out. Wotus complained about the call, and pitcher Tim Lincecum was upset to such an extent that he gave up a deep fly ball to the next hitter, allowing the game to be tied.12
if the Dodgers win the World Series, I will set myself on fire
I was at both those games. I don’t have any fond memories of Gary Darling, but here’s hoping he doesn’t add to bad memories in this series.
Crazy Crab despised in the 20th century and beloved in the 21st century. Hey it only took over 20 years, so don't give up hope.
so Darling owes us a win?
“oh, what a darling win that one was to have…”
I thought MLB originally said at the beginning of the postseason that they would assign umpires based on previous history, ie if a pitcher or team had bad history with a particular umpire, he wouldn’t be assigned to their series? I swear I read that somewhere from an official source.
Then again, if they really did that, we’d have no umpires for the WS since everyone has fucked us over at some point. For now, I see us fortunate that umps that owe us “karmic debt” will be on the field to repay it, intentionally or not.
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions
It's going to be very important
Where Darling is during MadBum’s start. If he’s at 1B, we’re fuct, to the point that I would start MadBum in a different game because his move is so borderline that Darling could turn every single and walk in to a double.
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by Giant Torture on Oct 26, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think his move is borderline. Every good lefty move is a balk move to Balking Bob, but almost no other umpire calls it. Bumgarner had a good lefty move, nothing special otherwise unless he forgets where to put his right foot.
The move he used was a balk imho.
he can’t rock back and then throw to first. I’d have called it for sure.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Is that why Mitch Williams said he balked in the playoffs? I thought he meant Bum’s foot landed past the 45 degree line.
"I love mankind, it's people I can't stand"---Pogo (Walt Kelly)
His front foot went past his back leg. At that point you have to go home with the ball.
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did it?
That usually is called. The rock-back-but-threw call usually isn’t.
FWIW
Bill Miller is a bay area guy. Counts for something, right?
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Really, Grant?
You want…Andrus the Giant?
You know the Pitcher in Black will just choke him out.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 26, 2010 12:21 AM PDT reply actions
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For example, the Rangers could have had Jim Brower, Scott Eyre, Matt Herges, Dustin Hermanson, Brett Tomko, A.J. Pierzynski, Pedro Feliz, J.T. Snow, Jeffrey Hammonds, Dustan Mohr, and Michael Tucker for what they paid for Vlad, but instead they got snookered into paying for just one productive hitter.
This gives me a happy
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plays 1B for World Series. /Huff DH
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Nope.
Shinjo is DHing.
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Steve Scarsone?
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The thing is...
it happened.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I haz a :(
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Damon Minor must cost too much
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by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Executive of the year
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 26, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Stephen Revetria.
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It’s pronounced “snoo-kah”
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Oct 26, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I recently watched Josh Hamilton's story special on mlb network
It was interesting and definitely awesome to listen again of his comeback, and more importantly an appropriate channel to discuss everything about it. Here’s to having a minimal amount of that unsolicited during regular mlb broadcasting.
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 26, 2010 12:35 AM PDT reply actions
let’s not get into that religion thing again.
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s harder to lay off of than smack.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not that.
It’s that you get damned tired of hearing about his comeback every single time he comes up to bat or makes a good play. A special on MLB Network is the appropriate place (heartwarming baseball-related fluff story, exactly what MLB Network should be broadcasting when it isn’t doing recaps, live look-ins, and historical games).
Of course it’s the World Series and there might be people who don’t follow baseball watching so Buck and McCarver are going to play it to death.
Bluh, I hope I’m not being (too much of) a bitchy jaded grouch about this.
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by GiantBrass on Oct 26, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You get it
It’s great and all but not ALL THE TIME. I’m pretty sure the Fox media packet page for Hamilton will just say AMAZING COMEBACK STORY; BFF JESUS.
I won’t go overboard with it, just a personal peeve I hope doesn’t make me boil over and probably won’t with Javier laying down the maritime law with that sub slider.
And now ladies and gentleman, Mr. Conway Twitty.
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 26, 2010 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I can almost hear the stillness... as it yields to the sound of your heart beating... bum bum bum
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by GiantBrass on Oct 26, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And as Texas chokes in many places, I can tell they've never been this far before..bum bum bum
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 26, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
speaking of death, Buck and McCarver are be the announcers again??!?!?
wonder which team they will stroke… maybe SF, actually, since they did the NLCS then that’s all they will know to talk about.
Here’s to World Series announcers constantly saying “if the Phils had won, which they should have, Utley would have gotten a hit there, he was due.”
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Pinko Cynic
If you’re tired of his story, you’re a desensitized pinko cynic. You annoy people at parties, too. Seriously, no one even knows how you were even invited. Stop putting your fingers in the salsa every time you dip a torilla chip, you sick freak. Dude kicked heroin — heroin! — to come back and, after 150 or so at-bats above A-ball, he became one of the best players on the planet. Insane. Awesome.
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by Giant Torture on Oct 26, 2010 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
But aren't Pinko Cynics one of the main demographics for this blog?
It just always seems like his story is used to proselytize, and I definitely don’t trust FOX to be even handed with it.
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FOX doesn't cut to an add for the Christian Coalition, though
they cut to FOX ads where dumb girls from their stupid shows make out with each other and JB, Terry, Howie & the gang tell you all about the HAWT FOOSBILLS AXSHUN coming atcha!
That makes it all the more grating.
And now it’s time for God Bless America, brought to you by Bud Light!
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I yell at the screen
McCarver is a moron and makes the Series an auditory Rheingold — vapid, tasteless, pointless. I would rather have Joe Cocker do color.
Don't believe everything you think.
Or are we not allowed to make fun of Sabean anymore since we made it to the World Series?
by bipolarbear on Oct 26, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That Guerrero line was making fun of Sabes
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 26, 2010 12:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
just by the Sabean Love Patrol
Anyway, he was killed by his evil twin at the end of May, so there’s not much point in discussing him anymore.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Will the REAL Brian Sabean, please stand up.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 26, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Their hitting will face a menace they have never known...
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by ZenPop on Oct 26, 2010 12:44 AM PDT reply actions 24 recs
That’s awesome.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
As a Lynch fan
I cannot even begin to describe how awesome this is. Frame it I will.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Thanks so much!
It was the hair! The hair that cannot be stopped.
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Large Mole is Large.
and amplified by the ’shop work.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
actually... pretty close to the original pic...
lot of contrast in the original photo…
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is it just me, or does everyone thats not a Giants fan totally misinterpret the Torture slogan?
Everyone thinks we say Torture because we lose alot. They haven’t seen enough Giants baseball to understand that the Torture is not of the W/L column, but how they win or lose.
David Eckstein hitting his only HR in the last 2 years off Affedlt in the bottom of the 9th (or extras, was it?) is Torture. The way they win or lose is why it is Torture, not the W/L column.
Once again, the country is sorely misinformed and misunderstanding.
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
You’re right.
But now the Braves fans know and the Philies fans know.
Phillies fans are still saying they lost because they weren’t hitting when it mattered. Uh. Exactly. Welcome to torture.
if the Dodgers win the World Series, I will set myself on fire
by DAinLA on Oct 26, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
Playing badly, but making good teams play just barely worse.
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They weren’t tortured. There clubs just got a whupping.
Torture is being an almost universal underdog, exceeding expectations then being perpetually on the brink of going into the tank on a series, game, inning and even pitch-by-pitch level.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 2:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The torture is contagious
May the Rangers experience torture!!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I am sick of the Hamilton thing
Good job kicking heroin and taking advantage of your amazing talent to hit a leather sphere with a wooden cylinder while getting paid more money than an entire school district’s employees. Tough choice.
Supported in your recovery by medical science which only really took off once it stopped blaming every ailment on spirits and witches and supernatural nonsense.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
This
Also, Step 2, Step 5, Step 6, Step 7 and Step 11
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by Giant Torture on Oct 26, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that the step where you cut a hole in the box?
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 26, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
First, it's got to be one of the most difficult things in the world to stop taking heroin once addicted.
Second, and you obviously do not agree with this, but people are worth what other people are willing to pay them (it should be around their marginal revenue product). In our case, demand for great baseball players is extremely high and therefore, with help from you and me, he IS worth that at least as much as he makes (seeing as he is not paid as much as he is actually worth because of the arbitration process).
Well that wasn't my point
but if we are to sidebar on the topic of meritocracy, I do not disagree with your synopsis of supply and demand and market forces etc. My effort (which was merely a snarky aside within the sentence) was to question the philosophical implications of a system, and it’s devotees, which simply accepts that because it is a tenet of market capitalism one individual may be compensated hundreds of times more than an individual who, I think most would agree, serves a far greater benefit to society. That is, entertainer v. educator in this case. Anyway, obviously I’m not revolted enough to stop enjoying MLB but it’s probably healthy to step back occasionally and reexamine things we usually just accept without remark. I mean, when I am seriously tempted to use scientific notation to describe the monetary value gap between someone who is fun to watch playing a game and someone who teaches people how to read or add, it’s probably good to do a little critical thinking from time to time.
Oh, and I am in no way a proponent of command economies. Just throwing that out there cuz I probably read like a giant pinko. Just a tiny one. Erm, nevermind.
Pinko cynic!
I get finding the contract somewhat revolting. It truly is a lot of money to get paid for playing a game, when so many other people in society, and institutions like schools, struggle to get by.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I see your point
But I would still not pay to see my eight grade teacher, Mr. Rutherford, play baseball. He was an exchange teacher from England and threw a ball like a girl.
by Lefty-is-crafty on Oct 26, 2010 4:42 AM PDT up reply actions
So Zito and Rowand are worth more than Lincecum
people are worth what other people are willing to pay them
If that’s true then Zito, and even Rowand, are both worth more than Lincecum. Somebody should tell Bochy.
it's all part of the master plan
They’ll be traded for prospects, any day now.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, no.
Zito and Rowand were free agents able to market their services to the highest bidder or to the most desired bidder, while Lincecum is not — so Lincecum actually isn’t able to expose himself to the same market that Zito and Rowand were. So that’s one of the pre-conditions of the “market economy” theory that wasn’t fulfilled in Lincecum’s case.
And also the market economy theory assumes perfect knowledge and rational behavior on the part of the consumers — neither of which were possessed/displayed by Sabean or by whoever made the decision to sign Z & R.
by Grizzlie Antagonist on Oct 26, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not impressed by his "recovery"
I know it makes me sound like an a-hole but I don’t think avoidance necessarily equals recovery.
That is kind of how he got in this mess….he was sheltered from bad things by his parents and went buckwild when they had their car accident and left him on his own.
The ability to say no and buck peer pressure is the sign he has recovered. Leaving any room with alcohol is admirable but he needs to keep working at it.
We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
I’m pretty sure he only avoids rooms where people are spraying champagne and beer all over each other. I don’t think at dinner if somebody orders wine he’ll duck or something. I might be wrong. Also I think he said it sends the wrong message to his fans if he’s in the clubhouse getting doused with alcohol.
by 49ersFootball...Torture! on Oct 26, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I read somewhere that Hamilton
sits apart from his teammates when they have beer/wine/booze. His “companion” makes sure that he doesn’t even go into a bar with the rest of the guys and generally helps herd him away from temptation. For all I know, that’s necessary, especially in a job where most people are “pounding the ol’ Budweiser” each and every day.
by mrs. owlcroft on Oct 26, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe that he actually gave into his addiction at some point last year,
apologized to every one, and then recommitted himself.
yeah
it’s a lot easier to stay clean if you go to bars and opium dens and whatnot.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me...
McC needs more opium den references. Maybe somebody could convert his or her Mom’s basement into one.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
look for my "tong war" fanpost
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
funny fact
‘tong war’ is an anagram of ‘wang rot’
Obviously
You have no understanding whatsoever of addiction and recovery. “Better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than to open your mouth and prove the theory accurate.”
"I signed up for this job, the day I was born" - Brian Wilson, Ninja
by Giant Torture on Oct 26, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
says the jester
I have never overcome heroin addiction but I kicked a morphine addiction. After you beat the physical addiction you have to beat the mental addiction. I’ve had morphine administered since then and it wasn’t an issue.
When you beat the mental demons you no longer have to keep running. You don’t dive back into it like the jokes above with the opium den but you don’t run either. You say no. You have won.
We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
Man, pain medication scares the crap out of me.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
it should
(insert pain medication of choice) is a helluva drug!
We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
I don’t think it’s that simple for everyone. ‘Mental demons’ stay with a lot of people or come back to challenge you. Maybe even new forms of ‘mental demons’ arrise. I’m glad you were able to recover & feel strong enough to actually receive morphine & not fall into relapse. But everyone can’t be brushed with one broad stroke.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
If you’re bringing up the contract, then the following players on the Giants are not allowed to be discussed, as they make more or essentially the same amount:
Burrell
Rowand
Ross
Uribe
Sanchez (Freddy)
Huff
Lincecum
Zito
Cain
Sanchez (Jonathan)
Wilson
Affeldt
Jonathan Sanchez makes $2.1 million this year, which is about a million dollars less than Hamilton’s $3.25 million. If you wish to exclude him because of that, go ahead.
Consequently, none of the stories of these players could possibly be interesting and media outlets should refrain from discussing them.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
The media outlets should stop pimping out the same story over and over again. Those same media outlets should stop a lot of things that are out of my control, for now.
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 26, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
But their stories won't be discussed in hushed throbbing tones
nor wrapped in religion and the Norman-Rockwell-meets-the-Church-Lady unctiousness that substitutes for ethics and morality in the tabloid TV world.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
by Rolfyboy on Oct 26, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I wish I’d written that.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 2:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
lol
2 entries for Sanchez. National media won’t fall for that.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It's the Hamilton COVERAGE that's the problem
This guy’s not trotting his recovery story to anyone who will listen. I swear, the guy wants to swat every reporter who asks him how he feels right now about coming so far from the depths of his addictions.
He and we would both be much happier if the reporters weren’t such pawns.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Oct 26, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
The Dick Stockton wannabes can all get their mind around the Hamilton story because it’s approved already and they are comfortable with it because they already learned the vocabulary (Drugs. A. Bad. Thing) at the D.A.R.E. assemblies at Suburban Wasp Middle School.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
This reminds me of an old joke told to me when I was in college
“if you are 20 and a Republican you have no heart, if you are 40 and a Democrat you have no money”
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This one?
“sir, you are drunk”
“madam, in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly”
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
“If I were your wife, I’d poison your drink.”
“If I were your husband, I’d drink it.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
No respect I tell ya.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems to be a variation of . . .
. . . “Anyone who is young and is not a socialist has a heart of stone, and anyone who is not young and is a socialist has a head of stone.” That’s how I heard it a half century ago.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
As tired as I may be of hearing about Hamilton’s story, I do think it is remarkable. Being able to kick something like heroin and stay clean (including no alcohol) is truly amazing. Hamilton’s story gives other people hope, which I think is important. It’s annoying to hear about it everytime he comes to the plate, but I can’t really get mad because it is such a remarkable story.
As for what Hamilton gets paid, I can’t blame him. I’d do the same thing.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree, it's a cool story but...
There is such a stigma around heroin if you aren’t famous. If a random dude you meet says he was hooked on heroin and went to rehab and kicked the habit, you might think “good for him” but at the same time most people are looking down on that person for ever using it in the first place.
I just think it’s sort of interesting how say, if a politician used to use heroin but got clean and want’s to become a politician again, every single person in the media will call him a druggy, idiot, etc. If our idolized celebrities do it they are a hero for beating an addiction and being a role model.
In my opinion, this isn’t nearly as inspiring as situations like Torres’ (or even Colby Lewis), where someone works hard in the minor leagues for years only to finally get a chance/turn it around and become one of the most productive players in the league in your 30’s.
Why must one accomplishment be diminished in order to bolster another? There are a lot of people whose lives are hampered or devastated by addiction and Hamilton’s story is certainly inspirational in terms of kicking addiction; Torres’ story is that of perseverance and stick-to-itivenessthat anyone can relate to; we all aspire for something more but we don’t always follow through, especially when the going gets rough. I see no reason to spit in the face of one story to exalt another.
I'm not spitting in the face of it
I think it is a very interesting story.
I just think that the media loves redemption stories and tries to turn them into something they aren’t.
Plus, I’m a typical internet libertarian asshole who doesn’t like constantly hearing about how Jesus cures addictions and how heroin is this evil monster that ruined Hamilton’s life.
Tuesday night
MLB Network will have “Path to the Pennant – World Series NL Team” – “A look back at how the World Series-bound San Francisco Giants advanced to the Fall Classic” at 6 PM PT.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Dammit, I don’t have MLB Network anymore. Stupid AT&T U-Verse
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Hey, I have AT&T UVerse too!!
no MLB network for me either, and i get every channel, HBO, CineMAX, etc, all of them… yet no MLBN. I got all the baseball games this year, though. All the CSN affiliates, Pirates, Reds, everything… it was fun watching the Rockies postgame shows after we beat them into elimination. bunch of guys in cowboy hats crying
also, with this long layoff, being in the WS still hasn’t sunk in. I have to see it to believe it.
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions
FTFY
MLB Network will have "Path to the Pennant – World Series NL Team" – "A look back at how the World Series-bound San Francisco GiantsPhillies and Braves stumbled and went into unforeseen slumps when facing the chump Giants and failed to advanced to the Fall Classic" at 6 PM PT.
Presented by East Coast Media Bias with full commercial interuption
We don't have to improve our ability to get people on base to improve our offense. If we sign FAs with decent RBI totals they will bring those RBIs with them. Its science. Or magic. We aren't exactly sure. The IT department hasn't responded to our telegram. --Sabean's offseason master plan
You could hear it between the lines
McCarver and Buck pimping the Phils even as we moved forward.
Don't believe everything you think.
Personally, I think Cain should be starting Game 1. For some reason, I would seem to trust him more on short rest than Timmeh, just because of his build (no science behind that).
Also, if Game 2 is expected to rain-out, then Matt goes from 8 days rest to 9 days. Timmeh also just pitched on Thurs and Sat (albeit not much). Also, on Sat we got a feel for how Timmeh would do on short rest- not well. 1/3IP, 2H, i know it’s SSS but still… I’d rather see Cain start Game 1.
Sounds like Bochy wanted Cain for game 6 in SF rather than game 5 in Arlington.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
hmm...
So
Game 1, AT&T- Timmeh
Game 2, AT&T- Matt
Game 3, TEX- Sanchy
Game 4, TEX- Bum (hoping for 6IP, 0ER- he looked gassed in game 4 at 80 pitches)
Game 5, TEX- Timmeh
Game 6, AT&T- Matt
Game 7, AT&T- Sanchy???? um, after that Game 6 performance, I don’t know about that. Hopefully it was an isolated event
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Every pitcher on the roster. Every starter. The whole bullpen.
You want moves? You’ll have ’em if it goes to seven.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Bochy itching to pull his patented "triple-switch"
Just ’cause he can.
"(Christy) Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball. The first statement means the same as the second." - Damon Runyon
Tim’s build is much better for good performance when slightly fatigued. Lean means no extra weight to shove around when the fine muscles that control balance and form start to go.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 2:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He was on short rest when he came out in the 8th for Game 6, and gave up a hit to Rectumface and Ibanez, leaving changeups at the belt, and so on. He looked great in K’ing Werth, but it went downhill from there.
Matt relies more on his FB, not breaking stuff to get it done. And on short rest, breaking stuff is the first thing to go, along with command. And Timmeh relies solely on pinpoint command and breaking stuff. But yeah, I expect to see all hands on deck if it hits 7. Sanchy probably woundn’t start in that scenario.
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions
"he was on short rest"
That wasn’t short rest, that was no rest. Starting game five, throwing 104 pitches and then relieving in game six? I don’t know what Bochy was thinking there.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 26, 2010 5:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
“Hmm, I’ve used up all my lefty relievers, plus MadBum, and now it’s the 8th inning. And I really don’t want to use Wilson for a 2-inning save. So, let’s see, who’s my next best pitcher? Oh yeah, the skinny pothead! Hey Rags, tell Gardy to get Timmy warming up.”
"(Christy) Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball. The first statement means the same as the second." - Damon Runyon
Bochy was thinking he was going to do everything he could to win. Putting our best pitcher in an important part of the game seems to go along with that. I’m not saying you have to agree with that, but come on, we should at least be able to see what Bochy’s thought process there was.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Incorrect implicit assumption.
(“I don’t know what Bochy was thinking there.”)
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
The BABIP fairies didn’t like Lincecum for 2 batters. Oh well. If only he let up hard hit line drives….that go right at the 1B, right? He struck out Werth.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions
interestingly
your magical nymphs didn’t visit on the first batter he faced, but on the second and third. Kind of like they did with Oswalt in his appearance, but Bochy had the sense to (and the option to) bring in his closer.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Caption
<."I mean, I don’t want to get in to a wang-waving competition about who our franchise hits leader is, but, well, yeah.?>
Mays
Hits. All kinds of hits. All types of hits.
I saw him play and he was just as great as you’ve been told. He won games when he was past his prime. I saw him shake his ass at the other team as he circled the bases after they mocked him. It was his last year here.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Win one for Willie!
He’s not going to be around forever to see it, and I think he’d like to.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well said
I remember listening to Lon calling one game, probably 1972, where Mays was on first, taking such a huge lead that he got into the pitcher’s head, who kept throwing over. Then he throws a gopher ball to Bobby Bonds.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
“And now the starting lineup for your 2010 National League Champion San Francisco Giants!”
And at that moment it gets very, very real.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 2:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly.
since the NLCS ended and there’s been no baseball, while I know we moved on, it won’t truly feel like it until the introductions.
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Another look.
The player-offense metric is the TOP, which is the number of runs that would be scored in a full season by a team of nine clones of that player. One cannot get team values direct from individual-player values, and especially not by simple averaging (because, like all probabilistic measures—such as Runs Created—the TOP is multiplicative, and the product of averages is not in general equal to the average of products).
The men’s career TOPs are the main entry; the parentheticals are their TOPs for 2010. In at least some cases, the career values are misleading (Andres Torres, for example), but as a rough, broad-brush indicator, here they are:
Andrus, SS 657 ( 612) Torres, CF 755 ( 897) Young, 3B 875 ( 820) FSanchez, 2B 754 ( 752) Hamilton, CF 1165 (1559) Huff, 1B 916 (1121) Guerrero, RF 1261 ( 977) Posey, C 953 (1024) Cruz, LF 941 (1222) Burrell, LF 973 (1041) Kinsler, 2B 933 ( 921) Ross, RF 813 ( 924) Molina, C 684 ( 432) Uribe, SS 697 ( 744) Moreland, 1B 842 (1003) Sandoval, 3B 959 ( 715)
Teams that go to postseason usually have several men outperforming their career stats by a big margin; Texas has Hamilton, Cruz, and Moreland (just of the eight men shown), while San Francisco has only one, Huff, though it also has five outperforming by modest but significant margins (Torres, Posey, Burrell, Ross, and Uribe). Texas has two underperformers, Guerrero and Molina, whose cases is probably just that they’re near the ends of their careers; San Francisco has only one underperformer, the enigmatic Sandoval.
All in all, it looks like the Rangers have a stronger offense, but—especially by 2010 values—not stunningly so: this is no gross mismatch.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
by owlcroft on Oct 26, 2010 2:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"cases *are*"
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Addendum:
I didn’t make it clear that 2010 stats shown for players with more than one team are only for the last team (Rangers or Giants). Sorry for any confusion.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
The only thing I took from this
LOL BENGIE
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
Description for the 2010 World Series DVD on Amazon: 2010 World Series: Texas Rangers vs San Francisco Giants Starring Cliff Lee, Josh Hamilton, Tim Lincecum, and Cody Ross (DVD – 2010)
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
they finally changed it!! didnt it say Phillys, Yankees and Rangers first time? forgetting the Giants entirely?
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It says Cody Ross?
That is awesome and messed up. Cody Ross is one of the Giants’ marquee players in the 2010 World Series. WTF. Did I just say that? Holy crap!
Where would the Giants be without Feliz, Borbon, Andrus, Smoak for Lincecum?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 26, 2010 5:28 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Where is that guy? Was he banned?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 26, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Who guy?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
wilriv
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 26, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah. Yeah, he seems to have simply left on his own.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
From Lonestarball
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you swap?
The 3rd thru 5th hitters on our side for theirs?
Based on most recent performance (NLCS), maybe. But they can have Vlady. We’re sitting tight.
Cruz has looked very smart
In the field. It’s been he and Kinsler killing the opposition.
Does anyone know how The Ballpark in Arlington plays?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
Depends on the weather
October in Arlington is anyone’s guess. It was 75 with 71% humidity at 7pm for Game 6 of the ALCS. It could be frozen over this weekend. Wind is always a maybe.
It’s a well sheltered, fully enclosed park, and built for the kind of hitters that Texas is stocked with. 
The Left field wall is sizeable. That thing beyond center field? The “Home Run Porch”
Ballpark at Arlington Dimensions: 332-L, 390-LC, 400-C, 377-RC, 325-R
AT&T Park Dimensions: 339-L, 364-LC, 399-C, 421-RC, 309-R
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
Home Run Porch? Oh, my…
Is there a stolen base root cellar, too? Maybe a productive out shed?
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
We have “Triples Alley.”
I mean, I love AT&T Park, but we can’t really make fun of other ballparks for being “cutesy.”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh you mean every night from 2008-2009?
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
That just makes me want to banish umpires or bad players to the productive out shed to consider their actions.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
what's with the "porch"?
Parking garage? Most retractable roof parks have something like this to cover up the mechanics of the roof, but I’m not getting why they put this in here.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I misspoke
The Home Run Porch is actually the right field grandstands.
“Home Run Porch: This two-tiered seating area in right field is very reminiscent of traditional older ballparks with its steel columns and overhead roof. Overhead fans were installed for both the lower and upper home run porch to provide more comfort. Another unique feature is a small section of seats located in the right field corner, where the fans actually view the playing field through an opening in the outfield fence.”
The section in Center Field is just there as a batter’s eye:
From Wikipedia- Greene’s Hill is a sloped section of turf located behind the center field fence at the home field of the ballpark. The Hill serves as a batter’s eye, providing a contrasting background behind the pitchers which enables hitters to more easily see the baseball after the pitcher’s release. “Greene’s Hill” was originally designed as a picnic area for fans but the Rangers have never initiated this policy. The hill was named after former Arlington mayor, Richard Greene in November 1997.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
It's actually a mall
Legend has it Hamilton hit a ball so hard on a warm afternoon in July that it smashed the Sephora store’s display window.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Mall might not be the best description
but yeah, it’s business offices and retail space.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I see
part of the financing deal as was fashionable/feasible pre-2008?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Misusing eminent domain is always fashionable.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Technically speaking...
…the “porch” should have a swing… and serve Country Time Lemonade.
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I was told by someone who works for the Rangers
That they will never succeeded because Arlington is awful on pitchers (ie. Colorado). Apparently this year, either the park was altered or the Rangers added Cliff Lee. Mmmmm.
Don't believe everything you think.
I’ve never understood that logic. If a park is hard on pitchers, that also means it’s easy on hitters, so what’s the problem?
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
If you ERA sucks because of your park, but you win games because of your sluggers, your ERA still sucks, and you’re going to be worth less in your next trade/free agency/ whatever.
That said, most players don’t have that much control over where they go most of the time. Until Nolan Ryan started making the moves he did in 2007 with the team (the ownership thing is new, but he’d been working with them since 2007 or so) the team just refused to put any focus on pitching. They bought A-Rod, they bought Alfonso Soriano, they bought sluggers, they bought speed – all seemingly under the premise that pitching didn’t matter, they could rack up more runs than anyone else.
That strategy worked well enough to get them strong springs and summers, usually melting down completely around the All-Star break when it starts getting to be consistently over 100F in Arlington. It got them to a few Division Series, but never held up in Playoff Ball when the pitchers are good enough to shut down their crew and the other teams can completely batter their weak pitching.
They turned their budget focus towards pitching prospects a few years ago and it’s produced all of their current starters with the exception of Lee. Ryan has also been conditioning his pitchers to expect to work full games and making them acclimate to the ridiculous heat.
Still, you don’t see a lot of low-scoring games in the park, and probably never will.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor
According to ESPN it was the 6th best hitters park in the major leagues this year. Well ahead of Citizens Bank Park.
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
(I wouldn’t use ESPN for baseball stats, ever, by the way)
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
:) I usually don’t, they came up first in google though. Thanks!
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Hitter friendly
Hmm, I had it in my head that it was the best hitter’s park in the AL, but apparently not. Must have been that odd 2008, where it was the friendliest in the majors.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Man, Josh Hamilton was good this year
And he was a steal for my pokemonz.
By the way, Hamilton’s season last year is another reason I am hopeful about the Panda.
The baseball Satanist
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
"I told the family lovingly slide"
Makes me LOL every time
Jim Brower, Scott Eyre, Matt Herges, Dustin Hermanson, Brett Tomko, A.J. Pierzynski, Pedro Feliz, J.T. Snow, Jeffrey Hammonds, Dustan Mohr, and Michael Tucker
Makes me LOL too. But then the tears just start flowing uncontrollably.
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
Makes me want to stomp on innocent ants.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 26, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully you squash some of the guilty ones while you're at it
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Since you brought up franchise greats.
I find it crazy that I think of Nolan Ryan as a Ranger whenever I look at his B-R page. Dude was only there for 4 full seasons.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
I think of him as the pitcher who gave up a homer to Will Clark in Clark’s first major league at bat.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
In that vein, I found myself shocked when I remembered that Clark was ever a Ranger. It made me sad all over again.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
It kinda shocked me when I recently saw a highlight of Will at first base in the first interleague game.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup!
It’s weird… my friend suggested that Will Clark throw out the first pitch for that reason… then I read on the Lone Star Ball site that they wanted Will to throw out the first pitch there! He may have been a Ranger for 4 years… but he was and always be a Giant… first and foremost!
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Round up the gang...
…we’re going ridin’!
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Fat catcher = fake catcher
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Fat catcher = cake fatcher
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa
I’m the same age as Grant.
That’s it. I have nothing baseball-related to offer.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
But the facial hair!
(On Grant, not kdl)
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you mean face hair.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
And just what do you know about it?!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OH SNAP!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I know I don’t wax my dorsal hair.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I am too!
When I meet people the same age as me, I often think if they shared the same experiences. Like did Grant dance to ‘Summertime’ by DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince at his 6th grade dance? Or was he whining to his mom about how much he wanted the Reebok Pumps? Or was one of his first CDs (not tape) Poison – Bell Biv Devoe?
Reminder: Never trust a big butt & a smile.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Did Natto also walk around his 6th grade dance, not dancing because nobody wanted to dance with him and also because he couldn’t dance and why did he go to this stupid dance in the first place she doesn’t even like me.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess people of the same age group really do share the same experiences.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
See, this is why I stayed home for prom. Some video game creatures were in dire need of slaying, and it wasn’t like I was gonna get laid anyway.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I had the damn Nike pumps.
They were HUGE, and i had to carry a little pump around.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Puffy shoes. How did I ever do without them?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I still know all the words to Summertime. I had a cassette single of it. And, we liked to have a lot of throwback Bell Biv Devoe dance parties in law school.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
Here it is. A groove slightly transformed
Just a little bit of a break from the norm
I remember my gf in junior high trying to teach me to dance & she always listened to BBD or Tevin Campbell.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Bitter fan is bitter
We were evil in the 2002 series, because our star player was on steroids. Yet the Rangers are a media darling with their star player and manager both being coke heads. I guess that’s ok because it’s not performance enhancing.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 26, 2010 8:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I know what you mean, but that is a terrible way of putting it.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 26, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
HAHA, Cocaine,
i guess i couldn’t care less about what the manager did or didnt do in his past, but whatever
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Reminds me of my favorite baseball card I have.....
I bought it at a card show after Darryl Strawberry came to the Giants.
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
which reminds me of one of my favorite strikeouts ever
The one that ended this game.
Heh
Also…Goodness, the Yankees were 80-29 after that loss.
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Candiotti really had the slow knuckler working that day. Strawberry stood in with a man on and a chance to tie it, and he tried. First pitch couldn’t have been over 60mph, and Strawberry swang through it. Second pitch was slower, hung there long enough to get a sandwich. Strawberry swang through it. Third pitch was maybe — and only maybe — as fast as 50mph. You could have watched the entire Bugs-Bunny-throws-a-slow-ball cartoon, gotten another sandwich, eaten half of it, and the ball still wouldn’t have been at the plate.
Strawberry took as hard a swing as I ever saw him take, and probably missed the ball by a foot.
MLB needs to work on getting archived games up from before MLB.tv time.
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The thing that bugs me about Washington is that he claims it was a one time thing. Yeah, sure. Only time in your life and you got caught. What bad luck. Come clean.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 26, 2010 9:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess that’s ok because it’s not performance enhancing.
Well, yeah. That’s kind of the whole point.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
and they’re not currently using.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
While you’re probably right, my point is that Giants fans were made to feel bad about their success, while they make this sound like a heroic tale of good over evil.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 26, 2010 9:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, it kinda is. Maybe not on a baseball level, but a human level.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
If they were really GOOD, they wouldn't have done the coke in the first place....
Stopping self-destructive behavior, while admirable, doesn’t make you a hero. Someone with actual heroic qualities likely wouldn’t have become an addict in the first place….
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
What horseshit.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You know who didn't do drugs?
JESUS. BOOM.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He drank a little.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
well come on
every time he picked up a glass of water, it turned into wine. Maybe the apostles should have brought ginger ale.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It feels kind of cheap stealing from Family Guy, but Jesus’s blood is wine. That guy must have been hammered 24/7.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s actually the wine that turns to Jesus’s blood. Pretty sure Jesus’s blood is/was just blood.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Yeah, yeah, I understand the transubstantiation thing. One of my favorite discussions in lecture years ago was one where we talked about a period when the church had real struggles figuring out how to deal with the idea of literal transubstantiation resulting in Jesus being turned into shit. It was fun, and extremely interesting.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I was almost kicked out of Catholic school because I couldn’t accept that it IS the body and blood of Christ.
“No, it’s not. I saw the host in a drawer.”
“But is becomes His body.”
“Nope.”
LOOK
YOU ARE EATING HIM. DEAL WITH IT.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yet it’s the Catholics who hate gay sex s’damn much.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You're absolutely right.
I should’ve specified. But the Catholic Church, as an organization, disapproves of homosexuality.
…I’ll stop there.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They disapprove of it
So long as the bottom isn’t a small boy, amirite
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
And later, you’ll totally pee him out.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The weird thing about literalizing transubstantiation is that it makes no sense to. Jesus gave his disciples bread and wine. He spoke about them metaphorically. Christians eat bread and drink wine, and treat them metaphorically. At what stage does literal come into the equation?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s like my rector always said: “Less reasonin’, more canabalatin’.”
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Fun philosphical tidbit:
The Roman position of transubstantiation derives, in part, from an Aristotelian view of the universe. Aristotelian philosophy made a big comeback in the high middle ages, and with it came a distinction between the substance and the accident of a physical object. In short, the substance of the wafer and wine is changed and is now the body and blood, but the accident (for our purposes here, I mean the physical makeup of the bread and wine) is unchanged.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
That is fun.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s kind of amazing how popular Aristotle was in the high middle ages – around that time, the only two things all three Abrahamic religions agreed on was that there is a God, and that Aristotle was cool.
What’s also interesting is that for a genius who’s probably the most important phlisopher in western history, it seems like almost eveything he had to say about natural science was wrong.
C’mon man. Aristotle is a footnote to Plato. Everybody knows that’s how philosophy works.
Really, though, I get bothered when people read Aristotle and reject him out of hand. Even if he is a footnote to Plato (and I’m not totally convinced that’s how he should be considered), his writings are so extensive, so broad, so foundational it is almost impossible to imagine much of western thought without him.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I called him a genius and probably the most important philisopher in western history – I’m not exactly bashing him.
Just saying it’s interesting. Epicurus, for example, who isn’t terribly well known, turned out to be completely spot on about a ton of things that were discovered 2,000 years after he died. It’s almost spooky at times.
Sorry I wasn’t clear. That wasn’t aimed at you or the natural philosophy comment.
That was referring to a number of people I know who read one book by Aristotle, said “meh” and tossed it out the window.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
One guy I knew burned his copy. I thought it an interesting reaction.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
The only book I ever tried to burn after reading was Stephen King’s author’s preferred edition of The Stand.
Fucker wouldn’t burn.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I burned Mostly Harmless.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Because it’s over 1,000 pages of crappy plot, paper-thin characters, and terrible writing, and you had to read the whole stupid thing for your joke of an 11th grade Honors English class with Mr. Stupid Whedbee.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
FACT
Most stuff I’ve read because it was on a bestseller list turned out to be disappointing and not very good.
Is it more reflective on me, or the literary taste of everyone else in America?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
There have been good bestsellers. I thought Fowles’s ‘The Magus’ was good, and I am pretty sure it sold really well.
Occasionally, Oprah will Book Club a book that is really pretty darn good.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
also, my stopped watch is right twice a day.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 26, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s my curse to never find them. I only notice them after they get talked up a bit by people in general. I’m sure if I payed attention I’d find better stuff.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I haven’t really bought new books, but my wife does. I’d have to be reminded which of her remainders I liked, though. Certainly not the Larsson books, which just made me buy a $1 collection of Dashiell Hammett’s pulp novels.
For new stuff I usually try the library first. There aren’t many authors currently writing that I buy a book they wrote sight unseen.
I try to keep an eye out for interesting stuff but I feel like it’s just random luck if I hear about something good. Someone just happens to mention a book that I think I would like, or I just happen to hear an author being interviewed on the radio.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Well, in theory I would know enough about topics that interest me that I’d know ahead of time who’s putting out a book that I would like. Then I’d be ahead of the curve. It never works that way, though, so I only find the occasional new book that I like.
But this is making it sound like I obsess over this, which isn’t really the case. It’s more a mild annoyance that, of all the myriads of authors publishing books, I only find one to my liking a couple times a year. I mean, are my tastes that narrow?
I have come to terms with not having the same taste as the NY Times. Which I’m fine with.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I tried watching the Dragon Tattoo movie, and that was enough to convince me not to try reading the Larsson books. Screw that.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m on the second book. Good storytelling. I am enjoying them for what they are intended.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I’m not sure. I think he just really, really didn’t like Aristotle and wanted to express his displeasure in some way.
Also, the book didn’t really burn. It sort of scorched on the edges a bit and was otherwise unharmed. It spent the rest of the semester in a plastic bag because apparently, while horrible enough to burn, Aristotle wasn’t someone to just be thrown away.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Dangerous. I want to get Dangerous. Dangerous.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap Cooky, that guy is pretty amazing. 3000 year old modernist. I was going to make a lame ‘epicurious’ joke but now I don’t have the heart.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I take it back
It was only 2300 years ago.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s my favourite person ever. Most of his falsifiable claims were later proven correct, and everything he had to say about ethics and happiness was just beautiful. He lived and advocated a quiet life, and taught women and slaves.
I’d found Greek philosophy quite boring before I read about him. Also, he’s got some kickass quotes:
Death, therefore, the most awful of evils, is nothing to us, seeing that, when we are, death is not come, and, when death is come, we are not.
I want to sign up for his school.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Name three Greek philosophers and explain what each taught:
Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. Socrates taught Plato; Plato taught Aristotle; Aristotle taught Alexander the Great.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
/WORLD SHATTERED
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/not a hero
:(
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Good to know you’ve never made a mistake in your whole life.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wow, the point seems to have sailed by a number of you...
I’M NOT BEING PROMOTED AS A HERO by the networks (nor are any of you). Rather than pour adulation over a ballplayer who wasted years of his prime being an irresponsible asshat, maybe there should be some focus on, say, people with more self-control.
Maybe some attention should be paid to the players who AVOIDED the trap of drugs/alcoholism.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
One does not need to be recognized as a hero to in fact be a hero.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent point.
And the part that I should’ve recognized is that the media labelling one a “hero” also doesn’t make him a hero. They’re just looking for an angle.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Here's what you're missing
OVERCOMING AN ADDICTION IS A LOT FUCKING HARDER THAN NEVER PICKING ONE UP.
LOTS OF PEOPLE NEVER BECOME ADDICTED TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
A LOT FEWER PEOPLE RECOVER FROM IT. IT’S FUCKING HARD AS SHIT. IF I WERE ADDICTED TO HEROIN, I WOULD BE DEAD. STRAIGHT UP. THEMS THE FACTS.
JOSH HAMILTON IS A HERO FOR OVERCOMING THAT.
FUCK YOU.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Oct 26, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, rationalize much?
So, praise and hero worship is due for being weak enough to pick up a destructive habit, and finding the strength later to dump it… but you tell someone that always had that strength and never had such a destructive habit “FUCK YOU”?
Wow.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
That is a mighty fine horse you are on.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not questioning the strength to kick an addiction...
I’m questioning why it makes one a “hero” and why questioning such a hero makes ME the target of vitriol?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
B/c you are calling people who become addicted weak and feeble-minded while touting your own strength. Which kind of suggesting that you think you are the real hero.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I'm not a hero
And neither is Josh Hamilton. That’s my point.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
He’s not a hero to you. You obviously cannot empathize with what he’s gone through. That doesn’t mean he’s not a hero to other people.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
good point
my mom is a hero to me, but is she a hero to you? probably not
Exactly.
So why is my reasoning any less valid?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Because in doing so you’re basically insulting addicts and calling them “weak”?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Again, I see why this is condescending and patronizing...
But it’s my opinion. Are you trying to tell me that they’re “strong”? If you follow the reasoning of others, they’re saying the same thing, though perhaps more compassionately.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Well, as long as you recognize that you’re being a dick.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I prefer to think of it as "unsympathetic"
p.s I’m not the one who jumped in with the f-bomb
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
because you said
he is NOT a hero. Well, in your world that certainly is the case. But, since he is a hero to at least one person, there is no way you can say he isnt one.
Because there are a lot of people in this country struggling with substance addiction and (while it certainly isn’t the case for everyone and I’m not trying to say it is) having someone in the public eye who has overcome it in the way that Hamilton has can be a source of inspiration? But then I’m sure that most people who are trying to recover would be a lot more inspired by you playing the “ADDICTS ARE WEAK I AM STRONG” card.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
So what your saying is,
Is that those who join a gang, and then are able to escape the Gang life and be a model for higher standards is actually not a hero and that you, for never going into a gang, is actually the better person? please
Boy, there are a lot of chips on a lot of shoulders out there...
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I see the flaws on my side...
Do you see the flaws in idolizing an addict? Recovering addict, sure… but an addict nevertheless.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
i'm not idolizing him, but I certainly find his
recovery worthy of praise. Let the networks idolize him to the masses for ratings.
Some people view masturbating as being just as bad as doing drugs. Do you masturbate?
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You can never be a HERO!
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Assuming the media doesn't lionize you for it...
you’re OK
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
What’s the point of denigrating Hamilton for what the media does with his story?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
it's the same mentality that criticizes
something because it’s ‘over-hyped.’
If you’re a recovering addict: KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, WEAKLING!
JETER SUCKS EVEN THOUGH HE IS GOOD BUT NOT AS GOOD AS THE MEDIA MAKES HIM TO BE
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You said I missed your point, but you’re continuing on with this ADDICTS ARE WEAK I’M STRONG ENOUGH TO HAVE NOT BECOME ADDICTED and that’s really fucking disrespectful to the many people IN THIS THREAD who have told you that they have had their own issues with substance addiction.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I have a crippling weakness for beef jerky.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I kicked that habit when I didn’t have the money to spend $10 for a tiny bag of dried meat.
It is delicious, though.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You could buy a food dehyrdator for like $35 bucks though, and make it yourself.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
ELITIST
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
?!?!?
BARBARIAN!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
BUT I WANT IT NOW
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Don’t test my weakness.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you have any friends who are addicts/alcoholics?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I’ll take that as a no. I’m not here to tell you what to do, but maybe before you go around calling sick people weak and blaming them for their affliction you should learn a little more about them and their illness. Go to an AA or NA meeting, sit there and listen, and maybe you can hear something inspiring (or, in most cases, horrifying). Maybe, just maybe, you will understand these people – form all walks of life, addiction spare no one – a little better. And I’ll give you a little bit for free: a lot of these people don’t change their life when they have people around them telling them they are weak-ass fuck ups. So look into it, it may change your view, it may not. But I guarantee you will learn something about your fellow man.
ZZZZzzzzzz MORE LOLS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Sorry, didn't see this... too much screen jumping...
I do have alcoholic friends (in denial), and have had friends killed by drunk drivers. Maybe I’m unsympathetic because of that…
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I’m going to stay out of this discussion because all it’s going to do is piss me off.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Yeah. I’m fucking going out for lunch.
And I’m looking forward to my relative who I love very much returning from a 28 day treatment program on November 1st. She’s battled her entire life and the less I imagine this being shit talking about her the better for my own sanity.
So: tuna salad, provolone, soft roll, no onions.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 26, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Tuna salad is my favorite of the mainstream sandwich salads.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I also enjoy Jonathan Sanchez. You, my internet friend – are a scholar, and likely a gentleperson as well.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 26, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In modern movies, the hero is often simply an ordinary person in extraordinary circumstances, who, despite the odds being stacked against him or her, typically prevails in the end. In some movies (especially action movies), a hero may exhibit characteristics such as superhuman strength and endurance that sometimes makes him nearly invincible. Often a hero in these situations has a foil, the villain, typically a charismatic evildoer who represents, leads, or himself embodies the struggle the hero is up against.
From wikipedia. Odds stacked against him? Check. Prevails in the end? Check. Superhuman strength? Check. A villain/foil? Check.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Batman makes mistakes…
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Early Batman used a machine gun to kill bad guys
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Robin made him soft.
(!!!!!!!!!!!)
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Hence then ironic exclamation points.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Robin's real name was Dick
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Not so ironic now, are they?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
HEY FUCK YOU!
Batman doesn’t make mistakes. He fucked up on purpose to make things a little more challenging. OKAY!
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I seem to remember having an argument on this blog about the whole Superman vs. Batman debate. My position was that it was a stupid debate, because Superman would obliterate Batman. The person I was arguing with took the ridiculous position that Batman would win. That was you, wasn’t it?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
One would assume Batman would be smart enough to have some Kryptonite handy
Whereas Superman has no such trump card against Batman. If Supes had any brains at all, he’d stand 500 ft away and burn Batman to ashes with heat vision.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Superman doesn’t have the balls to obliterate anyone!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Plus Supes has that lame "code against killing"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I thought it was just guns...
and they didn’t come up with that until the 60’s
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I’d put money on Wolverine. Batman’s lack of super powers hinders him. He’s basically a ninja with gadgets.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That whole heal-at-will thing helps Wolverine too
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
I think the fail beard would distract batman. So…Grant.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
/Batman has trouble locating blogger (too many basements)
/Batman throws Baggs off a fire escape, grabs him by the collar
HE MUST HAVE FRRRIENDS!
That’s a closer match for sure.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Batman stores an infinite amount of things in his utility belt.
With an infinite number of things, there is an infinite number of different materials for them to be made of.
One of those materials is bound to be kryptonite.
Batman would win. QED.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I still contend
that heat vision has greater range than kryptonite radiation.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
meh
can’t Superwuss just fly back in time or spin the world backwards etc. and kill Batman when he’s on the crapper?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
OK
tie him up 5 minutes before, then fly back to the present and loot the Bat Cave.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Batman actually crap?
Never been shown. 70+ years builds up quite a load…
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
He craps in James Joyce’s classic “An Entire Day in the life of Batman.”
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Always cracked me up about "24"
jack Bauer never stops down for a bite or a nap.
I always thought it’d be hilarious to have 1 episode nothing more than Agent Jack Bauer mowing the lawn, having lunch, dozing during the game on t.v., surfing porn…then off to bed, what a day!
He did some eating in the first season, but they probably realized that people don’t really care about it in the long run.
/glares at a danish, electrocutes it, demands to know where it’s hiding the coffee.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
There were other people on the show, and the camera followed them around some of the time.
Also, events were not in real-time after the 1st (I think) season.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha, it was you: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/3/2/1334109/community-projection-matt-cain#31635111
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss Lars. :(
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Where is Lars?
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
someone knows I'm sure
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve asked a few times and nobody has answered. :(
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, good.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
kdl has the inside scoop
he is ok apparently.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I think this might be the oddest thing I’ve ever said on this website:
Or are you telling me that Suri Cruise could beat Tim Lincecum at the Striking-Todd-Helton-Out party?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
And I also miss Lars.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
/METS OFFER SURI CRUISE 10YR/$800 BILLION
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
ALSO: LOL LARS
I don’t buy into Superman being all moralistic anyway. You just know he would jackhammer-fuck Lois Lane every chance he got. The fortress of solitude was really just a bachelor pad he used when he wanted to get extra freaky.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
And in my scenario Suri Cruise K’ed Todd Helton!
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
TODD HELTON IS NOT A CLOSE PERSON FRIEND OF THE CRUISES!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
PERSONAL, EITHER
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I made a really good prediction for Cain's season
His actual totals are in parentheses.
IP: 213 (223)
ERA: 3.41 (3.14)
K: 172 (177)
BB: 61 (61!!!!!)
HR: 19 (22)
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Though Grant's was better, that asshole
IP: 223
ERA: 3.15
K: 182
BB: 67
HR: 17
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
LOL Editing powers.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised Grant didn’t rec this comment.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Grant’s asshole will.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It’s going to take pictures of me to break this up, isn’t it?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That depends...
are you doing drugs in the picture?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Awww yeah... that's the good stuff.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
do we really need 8 balls?
looks like we’re in for a long night of cocaine guys
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think there are enough T-shirts with breast pockets anymore. We should bring those back.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I own many.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Immaculate taste.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Do they have cool stripes though?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
There’s a perfectly fashionable solution for that problem!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
There should be more pockets for breasts!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
All my jeans have these.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
YES.
Sometimes you need to whip out a breast, but you’re a dude. EASY. Just carry one in your back pocket at all times.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
If I had one of those I’d never get any work done.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
My husband requires them. Thank god for Land’s End.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Excellent.
Someone walked by and asked me what I was laughing so hard about. It was impossible to explain.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I generally avoid trying to explain MCC. It just confuses people.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, well, now I have an idea of what to yell at Howie today.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you actually seen/stalked him yet?
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
She has not.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I have not. But I’m in the same building where he normally uses the comp lab, so I might run into him.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re in Stern?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, interesting.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
“LOL HOWIE. WHAT A CUTE LITTLE GIRL.”
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Step up your game, chop. Howie was probably outside of Grant’s window 5 minutes after he first visited the blog.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
FINE.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
GOOD.
…..LOL MILLS
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
I actually learned about the blog by watching Grant through his window while he prepared a post.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, you’re telling me he actually writes this crap? I thought he mailed it in.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
speaking of addictions
I think it’s time for the intervention. You just can’t quit your shutterfly account.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
and so were the ’04 Sox that ended their drought.
I’m sure glad I missed this convo above…
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This sucks...
Now I have to root against J-Ham and Big Money. My 2 favorite players not on the Giants.
I guess I’ll just have to make fun of J-Ham’s Christian rock walk up music and Bengie’s eyebrow.
"Sabean is the master of the dry hump" -Michael Lewis
Yea... i actually like CJ as well... saved my pokemonz team
but i’m also ok to root against him for this series, he can be scary good
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
It took me a while to figure out who J-Ham is. Did I mention the whole first letter first name, first 3 letters last name thing is a huge pet peeve of mine?
Why such a Bengie fan?
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
GMar
I’m annoyed by it because I have a three-letter last name and I’ve been doing this for 25 years. Get all those copycats off my bandwagon!
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Yeah, I typically don't like it either,
But one day it just came out while I was talking about Hamilton and I thought it sounded really funny.
As for Bengie I just think he has at least a little to do with the progress of our pitching staff so he’s got props for that.
"Sabean is the master of the dry hump" -Michael Lewis
Yeah, how can you root against Jeffrey Hammonds?
Bay Area ties and such
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 26, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Did I mention the whole first letter first name, first 3 letters last name thing is a huge pet peeve of mine?
Then you should watch TEH AZN leagues!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
AmyG
Doing it wrong
at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires
by duke_diligence on Oct 26, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
A-Goo?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Ben Francisco and Ross Gload
I can’t believe they’re not on the SF bench. I think they should have kept Stairs.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW
Too lazy to check but did anyone make fun of the Philly fan with the superman suit trying to “empower” Francisco?
My wife did! But that wasn’t on the blog…..
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
he got the loudest boos of anyone
in the bar we were in.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
JAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ HANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDSSSS
by calbearjd on Oct 26, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wrecked
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
STFD Howard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: Wilson and Posey need to work on their winning celebration…only one person jumps…
I find it odd that Posey jumps into Wilson and then quickly runs away either looking for others or just to avoid getting trampled.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
If Wilson jumps, it takes him four days to return from orbit.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
FACT.
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Wilson said he felt his heart flatlining during the pitch… right afterwards, i think he was just happy that was over with
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m kinda surprised with Kinsler being down the lineup that far, thought he’d be a 2 hitter or something around there, but i know he had an injury this year, but i’m kinda interested in seeing what ya got to say about Kinsler
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Don't like him
Of course, when he’s 35, he’ll be playing 2B here, so I reserve the right to change my mind.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
What’s not to like? He’s not Utley or Pedroia, but he’s up there with any other 2B in the game.
He’s also got a pretty remarkable story – suffered from pretty severe asthma as a kid, was a bench player in college until his final year, 17th round pick…
Ask me "what's not to like" next week...
Because I have a bad feeling about him. Hopefully, he plays the role of spoiler in one or two games, while the Giants win the series, but he’s the player on Texas that worries me the most. He’s the wildcard that can have a CodyRoss-type series for them.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
he used to be leadoff, but stopped getting on base and Andrus matured into a better choice b/c of his VROOM. He had power but that seems to have gone away this year, mostly b/c of injuries.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
You misspelled "PED testing"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
didn’t they have testing in 2009, b/c he 31 homers last year.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
31 HRs last year to 0 this year?
what the fuck??
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was Kinsler who hit 31 last year, not Andrus.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
right. plus, he doesn’t strike out that much, which reasons are why I thought it odd that he wasn’t the leadoff guy anymore (though his OBP wasn’t that good in 2009). I can see that he has/had more power so maybe they wanted him to be an “RBI guy” but he’d seem to be a better leadoff choice than Andrus, though it isn’t as though Andrus has Corey Patterson like OBP, so it isn’t as if he’s a horrible choice.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Andrus had the most BB from a 21 year old SS since pre-WW2
That is the thing about Andrus that makes him a player teams covet longterm. He already has the plate discipline (tied for the MLB lead with Hanley Ramirez) and the defense and the power should slowly develop.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
He does K a lot: 96 Ks (v. 64 BBs) It’s not Torres level but Andrus has no power (No homers, 15 2Bs, and 3 3Bs, .301 SLG)…
His base stealing abilities are also suspect this year: 32 SB 15 CS…
Andrus was much more impressive last year and seem to have regressed a bit this year…doesn’t mean he is not going to be good but right now…he’s a speed guy
Thanks for the reply fail catch..
It’s not atrocious but 96 Ks are not great for a leadoff guy…especially one that has no power…
Yeah he had a very bad year with the bat. He should be hitting 8th (7th without a DH); only Bengie is a worse hitter in the lineup.
Still, regarding the K’s: K rates have been trending up on a pretty steady pace for quite a few years now – people still think of 100 strikeouts as a lot, even though, over a full season, it’s better than average. Same thing with pitchers – a K/9 of 7 still sounds high, but it’s perfectly average in 2010.
Haters gonna hate
Fox is optimistic that the Series can deliver strong viewership again this year, but the dispute could dampen ratings, which at least one observer predicts will already be dismal. These are the upstart Texas Rangers and San Francisco Giants, after all.
“I expect this could be the lowest-rated World Series ever,” said Brad Adgate, senior vp research at Horizon Media. “It’s not a great matchup for casual viewers.”
Also, Fuck You Patrick Rishe
Patrick Rishe, director of SportsImpacts and a sports business professor at Webster University, also is more optimistic than Adgate.
“This year’s World Series will be in between 2008 and 2009’s ratings — probably close to a 10 share,” he said.
He said this year’s matchup is more compelling than it might seem at first. “The pitching matchups [with Cliff Lee and Tim Lincecum as headliners] are juicy and potentially historic,” Rishe said. “The Texas market is large, and the San Francisco market is passionate if not bandwagonish.”
Not surprisingly, Webster University is in St. Louis. WAINWRIGHT HAZ WINS
We’re all bandwagoners!
(Should that be bandwagoneers?)
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I like how we are the band wagoners
When I was dating this girl that worked for MLB.com’s merchandise dept. she told me we are constantly around 5th in merchandise sold.
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
by milesntrane on Oct 26, 2010 8:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And always near 3 million in attendance.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
That's what I keep coming back to.
I would imagine that every World Series team ends up with some bandwagon fans, but it annoys me that somehow there’s this perception that the Giants don’t have “real” fans. It’s not as if the Giants have regular attendance numbers like the A’s or Marlins. It’s the complete opposite.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
well
The Rangers can count on all those Senators fans they left behind when they moved, too…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but Giants fans don’t even watch the games. They just discuss their favorite wines and cheese.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Cabernet Sauvignon. Smoked Gouda.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Let him smoke his gouda!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim Lincecum: gouda-er than you.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Smoked Gouda?!
Are you a philistine? That congealed cow splatter is not near stinky enough! And damn your barbarian eyes for slumming around with dairy product not hand squeezed from the tit of an animal in danger of extinction! I hereby formally excommunicate you from the Elitist Society of Cork Sniffers and Cheese Chewers!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Have you got any Red Leicester?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Blast!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
AND THEY COME HERE FOR NEWS
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
That's it, I demand Werth in the offseason.
Go ahead and ban me for premature rosterbation but…
Torres CF
Buster C
Werth RF (4 yr)
Huff 1B (2 yr)
Sandoval 3B
Ross LF
Uribe SS (2 yr)
Sanchez 2B
is a nice thing to think about on an off day.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I'd keep Burrell in LF
And use Ross as roving 4th outfielder, spelling Burrell and Torres.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The other thing...
I’m half tempted to just quit whil I’m ahead with Huff, Burrell and Uribe…but…but, JAZZ HANDS.
I’d definitely be good with 1+team option on Uribe and Huff but I don’t think they will be satisfied with that. They may not even be satisfied with a 2 year deal.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd bet there's at least a 50% chance
That Burrell, Huff, and Uribe are all back next year.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I mean
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/24/SP8M1G15R7.DTL
Baer basically guarantees as much here. The message seems to be: We will spend all the money required to bring back these guys, and nothing more.
At this point, I think there’s really only one open question going in to next year, and that’s Pablo.
If we don’t think Pablo can hack it anymore, we’ll probably see the Giants go after a shortstop and shift Uribe over. If he is able to show signs of progress, then I bet we’ll have the lineup set pretty much in stone – Pablo at 3B, Uribe at SS, Ross in RF
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Baer basically guarantees as much here. The message seems to be: We will spend all the money required to bring back these guys, and nothing more.
This is the wrong approach. Especially if Huff Burrell or Uribe want anything longer than two years.
I would be okay with those guys all coming back for one year, and I would be okay with oneor two coming back for two years, but those are bad odds to get all those guys back for at least two years and probably more in some cases. We don’t need any more 6 million dollar pine riders, which is what Derosa will be next year, and Rowand might very well be also (well really he’s like two of them—the 6 million dollar ones).
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
OTOH
Even if we get diminished returns on guys like Burrell or Ross, the fact that we could have them for a full year would be very helpful.
Imagine a full year of Cody Ross over whatever we’ve been putting in RF before he got here – probably worth a full win. A full year of Burrell? Probably that much as well.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I agree. The Giants should not make either of two mistakes. First, getting sentimental about this team. Management’s job is to put the best team possible on the field, and there are (albeit expensive) upgrades available. Second, thinking that Huff, Burrell and Uribe are guaranteed to perform as well next year as they did this year. They surprised most of us (except OGC of course) this year, but the Giants shouldn’t count on equal production again. These guys are on the wrong side of 30.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff and Burrell actually don’t seem like bad bets to be very useful next season. Uribe scares me a little.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribe scares me more than the other two. Mainly, I’m worried the Giants won’t look into upgrading, especially in the outfield (Werth or Crawford). I know upgrading may not be economically feasible, but I think it’s a mistake to not try.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I pretty much agree with that.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They won't look in to upgrading
There’s no reason to be worried about it, because it just isn’t going to happen.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Belt.
His name is Brandon Belt, and he is probably not terribly far away, and will push Huff into RF, leaving Ross as an important rotating 4th OF (palying as nearly full time as the others). So why would you want to go out and buy an upgrade when you have one that is somewhere between 0 and 1 year away?
Nor does it make sense at this point to consider Sandoval done, and take action to replace him, directly or by positional musical chairs. Come mid-2011 all of that may look different, but for this winter, one would be best to allocate money where improvement is unavailable from within. And about all that can mean for the offense is a 2B or SS who is substantially better than any of Fontenot, FSanchez, Uribe, or a healthy DeRosa (who would be their best bet at 2B). The shortstops materially better than Uribe (or even Renteria, who might yet have a useful role in 2011) are very few, perhaps 9, most of whom are absolutely locked to their current teams, or too old to go after, or both (like Jeter).
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Rotating Ross sounds good but he’s really not a good choice for CF.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 26, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless I’m misremembering, his range is somewhat sub-standard.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 27, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh
Uribe’s now had over 1000 PAs as a Giant, putting up a .266/.318/.464, which is pretty durn good for a shortstop. Two years of track record is good ’nuff for me.
If he likes SF, which he seems to, and is willing to come back for something affordable, there’s no reason to be worried.
He’s the best shortstop on the FA market this year – that’s a fact.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Well, I didn’t say I wouldn’t be happy to have him back. Of the three, he’s just by far the one whose potential for decline scares me the most.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
and
as the only SS the most likely to have money thrown at him.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be fine with a Mark Reynolds acquisition
if they want to go in a different direction.
5 facts about Mark Reynolds that you might or might not know:
1. He will hit more than 35 HR even in ATT.
2. He will take a lot of walks
3. He will never hit .200 again
4. He had a .257 BABIP last year
5. He posted a 2.2 UZR last year.
Also he is 27, entering his prime years and is under a very favorable contract, 5 million in 2011, 7.5 in 2012 and an 11 million team option with a 500K buyout for 2013.
Worst case scenario you have Dave Kingman for two years 13 million. Best case you have .950 OPS slugger who strikes out a lot and holds his own at 3B.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd love Reynolds
But I still believe in Pablo, and acquiring Reynolds sorta leaves Pablo without a place, esp. if we also bring back Huff, which will probably happen.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Also forgot to say...
The DBacks are desparate to get rid of him becuase Gibson can’t stand him.
and
I meant to say, that if they want to go in another direction with Pablo…
I almost think a straight up trade would make a lot of sense for both sides.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't trade Pablo for Reynolds straight up
Similar potential ceilings, and Pablo has more years of control.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m interested in Reynolds. I’m not sure Sabean could gets past the .200 average and strike outs, but I’d be okay with it. He also had some injury problems at the end of this year that seemed to drag his production down.
I do wonder about Pablo. I think he’ll bounce back next year, and I’d like to keep him at third since I see no other position for him. I don’t think he’s a good first base option, and I don’t see him returning to catcher, even in back-up duty.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, if you’re ok with him at 3B, why wouldn’t you be ok with him at 1B?
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Because I think the Giants could find a better offensive first baseman, or at least one we consider more likely to put up decent numbers. If we think Pablo is going to bounce back, then I’d rather fill first base with someone else and keep Pablo at third. I think that’s easier/better than trying to fill third base via free agency or trade because of the economic/player cost involved in the latter options.
It’s not a defensive issue, if that’s what you’re wondering. I’m sure Pablo could play first just fine.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
STRIPED HIGH SOCKS!
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Werth?
Scott Boras next love child? How does 6 @ $150 mil sound? 7 at $135?
Holliday got $100 mil last year… I think Werth is better.
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Oct 26, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Different economy right now...
4 yrs/$60M might be his limit
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
It’s actually probably going to be pretty close to the same crappy economy for both of them.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems like the talk around Werth is at 4, maybe 5 years. For the right price, I’d do that. The Giants will still have their pitching next year, so I’d be willing to spend on Werth.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Holliday’s the better hitter of the two. Werth is probably a little better overall because of his defense. That said, you’re missing a big key here….Werth is going to be 32 next season. Holliday was 30 this season.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because Giants fans aren’t obsessed to the level of Cardinals fans—who know of nothing else in their lives, comparable, in my opinion, only to Ohio State football fans—doesn’t mean that everyone else’s fans are “upstart” or “bandwagonish.”
by Timorous Me on Oct 26, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
too many colons, not enough semicolons;dr
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
CIRCLE THE WAGONS BOYS!
/Bermen’d
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but ...
what he actually said is that G’s fans are passionate and not bandwagonites. But what he probably meant is the opposite — passionate but bandwagonish or passionate although bandwagonish — so fire away at him.
by mrs. owlcroft on Oct 26, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
"I expect this could be the lowest-rated World Series ever,"
Well, sizeable chunks of NYC and Philadelphia don’t even have access to it.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I think game one will draw viewers because you have Lee/Lincecum
and the ratings for the rest of the series may depend on that game. There aren’t any other names in this series that are gonig to draw attention. Even Lee is probably not a draw for the typical fringe, or non baseball viewer that you need to grab to get good ratings.
/insert Matt Cain sitting at table alone here.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Scheduling Game 4 on Halloween night (and during prime trick-or-treating time in both Texas and SF) is kinda dumb.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Too Bad it's in Texas that night
The national viewers will miss out on Halloween in San Francisco. AT&T on Halloween night, -one can only dream.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Oh man
That would have been too awesome
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Also scheduling
game 1 the night before my final
game 2 during my final
and game 6 during the only night of the year I will be on a plane for a business trip really is going to kill ratings in my house.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Hella dumb.
I kept mentioning to the Mrs: “Game 3 tix are really expensive because no one wants to go to game 4. It’s on Halloween.” “Game 4 is on Halloween”. “Huh, weird schedule. Hey babe, did you know Game 4 was on Halloween?”
Mrs: “It’s okay, me & my mom will take him trick-or-treating.”
Me: “Oh, I wasn’t even thinking about that. But if you insist.”
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Marital Relations 101
it’s always better if the other person brings it up.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Honey, I've been thinking, we should try seeing other..
..baseball teams once in a while. You know, just to spice things up.
then Fox should just let Kruk and Kuip call the damn games.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
sssshhhhhhhhhh
It’s a good idea now, but not so much when they are working for Fox instead of CSN/KNBR/the Giants.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
To this I say
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT FOX’S RATINGS. THE GIANTS ARE PLAYING IN THE MOTHERFUCKING WORLD SERIES
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
This kind of nonsense arises . . .
. . . because the national media made it so. By intensely focussing, year after year after year, on a very small number of big-market East-coast teams, they have largely succeeded in selling the American public the idea that baseball is thoroughly uninteresting unless being played by one or more of those teams—that all the rest are just extras there to fill out the TV screen, sort of like the Indians circling the wagons in a western movie.
Had they focussed from the start on selling baseball, showing—and knowing something about and explaining—all the teams more or less equally, there would be interest in most teams, and especially most good teams, regardless of their market size. The basic point that the pinheads in suits overlooked is that they are the market: that is, the “market” is national. Not every viewer in America is tunnel-vision locked into his or her market team; and even if they prefer and root for that team, they could—and, I submit would—be at least interested in other teams, too, were those to be seen and talked about now and then.
(Of course, the problem runs deeper: these people believe deeply and solidly that baseball is flat-out boring and uninteresting, and they would be shocked if anyone suggested that not everyone necessarily agrees; that is why they are forever trying to “liven up” this stupid, boring blah with real-interest things, like lengthy views of fat babies drooling and utterly pointless, uninformative, annoying between-innings interviews with managers and coaches—shown, of course, during active play, because between-innings time is saleable—and endless reshows of irrelevant things that happened days or years ago, all with swooshing and clanging noises for every stupid arcade-game visual effect they mar the game with, and so on and so forth in a litany that any baseball fan could extend considerably.)
But looking for a glimmer of wit at Fox or TBS or even ESPN is like looking for open-handed good will at a bank or insurance company. The national sports media made their bed, now they lie in it and groan at how hard it is. Fuck them and the burros they rode in on.
Sabean delenda est!
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OT: SWEEEEET TORNADO WATCH, SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
out here in Cincinnati, gonna be a fun day
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
check that, Tornado warning... goody... not goin to class now, and now have to seek shelter
luckily i’m in my apartment, next to a window
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
I laughed so hard when I was in Denver and the Tornado sirens went off and EVERYONE ran outside to watch.
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
put it this way... i'm not goin outside or anywhere, this looks pretty intense here
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
people are telling me to take tornado precautions, i dont even know what the hell is goin on…
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Tornado precautions = go to a basement.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
She got blown around so hard she hallucinated and went into a coma.
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
and the poor actress who portrayed her suffered through a life long battle with drug and alcohol addiction.
lesson: basement.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 26, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
And she had a really bitchin' pair of shoes.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I had a similar experience with a rather enthusiastic young lady in high school.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
gotcha...
well.. i’m in an apartment building, and yea, that might not happen, dont really have a basement
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
GET IN THE HOT TUB!
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
haha, i should probably bring some beer as well
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
Actually if the tornado hits your apartment (not really likely) you’re probably best off in the tub/shower.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Or the fridge. Hey it worked in Indiana Jones!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
Nuclear explosions are completely different from tornadoes….
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
In a fridge?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d forgotten that the fridge was thrown so far, I stand corrected. Next time I’m in a tornado I will climb into the fridge.
by paboperfecto on Oct 26, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
but you have to have one of those old school fridges…none of those pansy energy star crap they sell these days
Actually, that explains it. The old fridges waste all of the nuclear energy, protecting the contents. New fridges would all just save all the energy, and Indy would be toast.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
…or opium den.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
by bgunn on Oct 26, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
sucks for people walking to class though
luckily no class until 2:15
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
lulz
McCoven: tornado-proof since 2005! Thanks mom!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Thrilling. I got to see the results of a tornado earlier this summer out in Wooster at an arboretum (about an hour south of Cleveland). Thought we were done for the year.
by Timorous Me on Oct 26, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN picks
Full list is now out, FWIW (which is nothing).
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
Which I think is the most honest prediction one can give….
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha, same thing for the Phillies series
His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?
But now we’ll lose in 7 instead of 5!!!
"What’s that, Buster? You asked for a bicycle? Well, sorry. Santa brought butt floss instead."
That's the Mitch Williams prediction
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 26, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Caple
didn’t get the memo.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Caple didn’t get the memo.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"We kicked their ass, we drank their whiskey, and we took their plane."- Mike Krukow
I don't think Caple got the memo.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
At least somebody picked us
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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"God created a light, fluffy, white cake, named it "Angel Food Cake", and said, "It is good." Satan then created chocolate cake and named it "Devil's Food." -Tamera Mitchell-
All this shows ...
Is that ESPN analysts will, 19 times out of 20, pick hitting over pitching. So far they’ve been wrong on every count. Let’s hope that trend continues.
they do not watch baseball.
Pitching always wins, especially in the playoffs. Just like defense wins Super Bowls- ask Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson how well that works.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Caple is the man.
I think before the season he had the Giants vs the Red Sox in the WS with us winning. He even had the Rangers winning the West. He’s on to something. Bravo Caple. Bravo.
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Giants fan
Wrote about this a few weeks ago. He obviously can’t control himself anymore.
by Timorous Me on Oct 26, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he had the Giants over the Twins, not the Red Sox
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 26, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Ahhh..
I think you’re right.
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Then we are clearly the favorites
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"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This has probably already been resolved but how does Grant post these things right at the midnight hour?
Is this real life? Is this going to be forever?
He can only post as a pumpkin...
…too tough to post as a stagecoach.
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Heroin?
I thought it was crack?
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
by milesntrane on Oct 26, 2010 8:49 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I heard it was crack too
That he was livin on his grandma’s couch at the time bein’ all cracky
"Sabean is the master of the dry hump" -Michael Lewis
Dude gets a tattoo at a parlor in spring training, apparently the deal was ‘buy a tattoo, try crack for free’. He then eventually blows through his entire multi-million dollar signing bonus getting cracky. Bounces some checks to some dealers – who eventually track down his parents. Dude hits bottom waking up on the floor of a crack den.
Jesus Christ comes in from the bullpen and Saves.
that’s the story I’ve heard.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 26, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh, I thought it was heroin. Eh, no real difference.
Good for him. I always find stories like that inspiring.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah – he was absolutely way beyond far gone & quite lucky to be alive. Great story.
I remember a tragic story that ESPN covered about a can’t miss prospect in New England getting turned on to oxycodone and then eventually becoming a full blown heroin addict. It was a terribly sad read.
Josh’s story is better.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 26, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I avoided the discussion up-thread, but it’s nice to hear about people overcoming something that’s far too common.
Also, I’d like Josh’s story more if he followed Grants advice, but I prefer 1-12 with 13 strike outs, just because it’d be weird.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ken Rosenthal's article is pretty good
Favorite quote:
• Brian Wilson. “Fear the Beard” is one of the Giants’ many mottos. Wilson, the Giants’ wacky closer, has a penchant for hair-raising saves – and his all-black beard is only one of his quirks.
Among other things, the Giants are baffled by Wilson’s ability to identify an unmarked card out of a shuffled deck, as if he has ESP. Aubrey Huff freaked out when Wilson strolled over to him the other day, stared at a card and said, “five of diamonds.”
Huff turned over the card, and sure enough it was a five of diamonds.
To be expected…Wilson is a ninja after all.
Certified, Ninja.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
FACT.
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"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
FACT.
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I prefer Certified Pre-Owned Ninjas
Let someone else take the hit on the depreciation…Ninjas depreciate like a mofo
This statement is just not true.
For all the talk about Roy Halladay vs. Tim Lincecum in the NLCS, Lee’s the best pitcher in baseball and quickly developing a reputation as one of the best in postseason history.
How quickly
people forget that Lincecum is the reigning 2x back to back CY Young. :/
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it.
Two times back to back? That’s, like, four times.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Not even talking about Timmy
Cliff Lee was nowhere near the best pitcher in the regular season. If you want to call him the best postseason pitcher right now fine. But you can’t just throw away an entire season.
Nowhere near the best pitcher?
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2010&month=0
Not according to WAR.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He’s nowhere near the best pitcher according to bWAR.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/why-our-pitcher-war-uses-fip/
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/why-our-pitcher-war-uses-fip-part-two/
That’s true, but DFA said “Nowhere near”, and I think the fact that at least one measure of value has him as the MOST makes his statement untrue.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I do agree, I’m just saying that there are other statistical measures that don’t rank him quite that high.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
It’s pretty simple – he pitched as well as anyone, and allowed a surprisngly high number of hits with RISP. So unless you think he has clutch problems, he’s as good as anyone.
Do you really think you need to tell me that?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I know how good Cliff Lee is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
(By the way I’m skeptical about rWAR. Don’t really like their methodology of trying to seperate defense/pitching, if my understanding of how they try to do it is correct.)
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Then there's myWAR
Giants- awesomeness x 1,000,000
Rangers- non-awesomeness x 0
that’s my wins above replacement formula for each team
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
/rainbow puddle in the shower the next morning
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
been there, done that
scared my wife after coming home from the show. she thought i’d been hit by a car.
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How do you get to a list of WAR on B-R? I can only get the top 10 .
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody has as good a case as Lee.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
A case as good as anybody, Lee has.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear it from fans all the time: “All you see on FOX are the Yankees and Red Sox. Show us some other teams!”
Well, here you go.
LOL yeah because you are being forced to show it.
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I really hope the Rangers players
are as over-confident about every single aspect of this series as the people at LSB are. Maybe they’ll think that the World Series is decided by stats alone, and won’t even bother to show up to the fucking game tomorrow.
tomorrow!?!?!?!?!?!
aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s only a day away.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
i meant it more in a ITS THAT CLOSE ALREADY?!?!? YEAH!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm tired of Josh Hamilton's story...
He’s probably addicted to steroids now anyways.
We already know that he broke his “sober” streak by getting drunk with some bar chicks last year.
Dude doesn’t impress me, and he comes off as a fake.
Buuuut…. He is a great baseball player.
Wish that’s all people would focus on though.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions
Probably cheesed and exagerrated like
a born agains conversion story from being an atheist.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
he got drunk last year?
That BASTARD.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I absolutely have no problem with drinking.
It’s that he’s trying to act like he doesn’t drink when he obviously does.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
He fell off the wagon once and now he obviously does drink?
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
In short, I don't believe that you can just
“fall off the wagon once” when it comes to alcoholism.
And the fact that he was at a bar with some random chicks (when he’s married BTW) certainly reveals more about his character than a lot of people want to admit.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I suspect if it was something he did often we’d have a lot more pictures like the ones that were taken that one time…..
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
And the fact that he was at a bar with some random chicks (when he’s married BTW) certainly reveals more about his character than a lot of people want to admit.
No. No, it doesn’t.
Seriously. We can talk shit about the Rangers and Molina all we want, but demonizing a recovering addict, and now accusing him of infidelity for no reason whatsoever? Do we really want to go down that road? WHAT WOULD RANDY WINN SAY?
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
Rec'd
Yeah, seriously.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
just don't fall off the rec bandwagon
or YOU SUCK.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm jumping this!
…as opposed to jumping on that. Troy speaks for me!
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I'm not accusing him of infidelity.
I’m accusing him of hanging out with ‘club/party’ chicks and getting drunk.
That, and only that, does in fact say more about his character than we’d like to admit, even if he didn’t cheat.
And what it says about his character isn’t even all that bad in my opinion, it’s just not what he’s been advertising himself as.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re accusing him of something he readily admitted to and spoke about candidly, reminding everyone that he’s still in recovery and likely will be for the rest of his life? Cool.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
And anyways, how many of us have never flirted with someone of the opposite/same sex that we found attractive while still in a relationship?
I have. It just happens, doesn’t mean anything.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite apropos of this, but I played wingman for my former roommate one time, and we got ditched within 10 minutes. It was a pretty sad display.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't think there's much wrong with it.
A pretty understandable thing…
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
well, in this particular instance
and without looking at the link — this is just my recollection of the story — he had his shirt off and girls were taking body shots off him. That’s definitely a step beyond flirting.
So you’re claiming that
he was at a bar with some random chicks (when he’s married)
is not an accusation of infidelity? Is there something inherently wrong with women that he’s not already acquainted with?
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope. Not an accusation of infidelity.
Just an accusation that he’s not a wholesome boyscout christian.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Again
He hasn’t advertised himself as such. You can say the media has, but I don’t think Josh Hamilton has ever said that he’s a perfect person.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I don’t think there’s ever been an athlete I thought was a wholesome boyscout christian….
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame fans for believing it, then! :)
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Christy Matthewson!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
OK, you had to go back 100 years to find one
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Josh Hamilton!
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
I’m going to need some first hand accounts to even start thinking it might be possible.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think ICWYDT
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
KEVIN MITCHELL
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
OK, seriously. WHAT IS THE ACCUSATION then? There is nothing wrong with being in a bar. There is nothing wrong interacting with women. Yet you keep bringing both facts up like they’re important. If you have an actual accusation (“he is not a boy scout” is not an accusation of anything besides never joining the US’ largest youth organization) share it, if not, quit repeating useless facts at us.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
BACK OFF THE SCOUTS SIR
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
What has he been advertising himself as….?
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it ok if I note that, in the context of this conversation, your name is rather ironic?
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Old name.
But yes, ironic in this context.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
This was a huge story in Texas
and was really embarrassing for him, actually, considering that he’s involved in a lot of recovery projects and church groups. I think the issue has become tiresome because of all the coverage surrounding the Series, but I do think it’s an inspiring story and hardly worth wasting time to mock.
by Duelling Brandos on Oct 26, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
better this than an even stupider story
I hate almost all human-interest stories about performers, but some people love them so they’ll always exist. As you noted, Hamilton is a great hitter, and I look forward to watching him. I do hope Giants pitching induces him to perform poorly for a few games, though.
oh come on now
What do you expect Tom Verducci and Ken Rosenthal and the non-hottie Fox sideline reporters to interrupt the game with?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Wish that’s all people would focus on though.
Uh huh.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
About this Michael Young analysis:
Imagine a rich man’s Freddy Sanchez with a lot more power and an unremarkable glove.
I now fully expect Michael Young to make one — nay, three! — spectacular plays on defense that will prevent the Giants from scoring.
lol.
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rec’d for epic fail
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Fail Rec
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
May I add...
..that the Sharks will put it together in time for the playoffs and will go all the way!
…that the Earthquakes have a very good shot at going deep in the MSL playoffs!
…the Arsenal need to shoot the ball more and stop piddling around… but having said that, they played great last week in beating Manchester City!
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Imagine a rich man’s Freddy Sanchez with a lot more power and an unremarkable glove.
So you’re saying he’s just like Freddy Sanchez, if Sanchez were the exact opposite of what he is?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Sanchez is a rich man.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
I could never survive on how little Franchez is making each year. That poor, poor man…
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Dance lessons alone must eat up a huge chunk of Clean’s income.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Hey hey hey....
Don’t joke, dance lessons can be EXPENSIVE.
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Let’s see Kinsler do that!
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"We kicked their ass, we drank their whiskey, and we took their plane."- Mike Krukow
You remind me of Pedro Feliz.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
LET'S GET FIRED UP
LET’S GET FIRED UP…. SAN FRANCISCOOOOOOOOO… WE GOT GIANTS.
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Was out running errands and heard that…pretty um, uh, what would you call it?
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
turrible
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Craptacular?
But I find it bearble because I’m on a high that is the 2010 Giants.
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moving on
Gary Radish is comparing that mess with “Who Let the Dogs Out”…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know where I could find this online? I’ve been looking for it but can’t find it.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It was on this morning at about 9:50. So KNBR.com > Gary Radnich Show.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I looked and didn’t see it up yet. That song was horrible but I want to hear it again.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny internet comment is funny
Found this on the BBC Sport website discussion about the World Series:
Imagine that, the only big save Broxton converts all year gives the Giants homefield advantage. I can only laugh!
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I didnt realize there was so much to chose from!
http://www.footballfanatics.com/MLB_San_Francisco_Giants/partnerid/8159/source/PTR_WorldSeriesNLCS
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
LOL at that site. I ordered a orange posey shirt, they sold out, gave me my money and 10 bucks!
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by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, it’s weird that we call it facial hair. It stands apart from pretty much everything else. We have arm hair, back hair, leg hair, chest hair, butt hair, toe hair, and nose hair, but instead of face hair, we have facial hair. I wonder if I should start calling face hair, or instead start calling other things the other way: dorsal hair, brachial hair, etc.
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OH SNAP!
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m running through them on Netflix, so it will be a couple of days.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
PROUD TO WATCH BSG!!
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. (and I think it’s pretty damn good, too.)
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thank you for that observation, Jerry Seinfeld
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Ron Washington
We’ve already talked about Ron Washington‘s curious decision to play Vladimir Guerrero over David Murphy in San Francisco, but now he’s made another surprising decision in his World Series rotation. In game 2, he’s decided to hand the ball to C.J. Wilson, and then turn to Tommy Hunter in Game 4. I’m not sure I would have made the same call in either case.
The main difference between starting Game 2 and Game 3 is the ballpark in which you pitch. Washington chose to throw Wilson in San Francisco and Colby Lewis in Texas, but based on their styles of pitching and the respective ways the parks play, it doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Let’s just start with the obvious: 44.5 percent of Colby Lewis’ balls in play this year were flyballs, compared to just 33.5 percent for C.J. Wilson. Wilson has the highest groundball rate of any pitcher on the Rangers’ roster, in fact, while Lewis has the lowest groundball rate of any of their starters. They are complete opposites on what kinds of balls in play they allow.
San Francisco, of course, is a pretty big park, and it knocks down a lot of fly balls that could be home runs in Texas. It is especially hard to hit home runs to right field, which makes it one of the best places in baseball for a right-handed pitcher to throw. The ideal pitcher for AT&T park is a right-handed flyball guy, to which Matt Cain can attest. His skillset is perfect for how the park plays…..
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/texas-curious-rotation-choices/
This is the San Francisco Giants
They are all Cliff Lees. Or Roy Halladays. It just doesn’t matter who they throw out there. Keep it a close game and try to ride the BABIP train to victory in the late innings against relievers.
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YEP.
Actually I like Cliff Lee pitching against us. He pounds the zone, so if everything is most likely going to be in the zone, more good pitches to hit and less balls to chase. Now it’s hitting these pitches that could be the problem.
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I mean...
you can’t really LIKE facing Cliff Lee in the post season can you? But if you mean, you feel like we have a better chance to score on him than most recognize, that’s a different thing entirely.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Well maybe not LIKE
persay, but yea I think we can do more damage that the “OMG CLIFF LEE!” media thinks.
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I agree. I see it the same as Halladay.
This offense isn’t going to take advantage of lesser pitchers but it will score runs against the best—maybe only two, but sometimes that’s enough.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
That's the problem
This offense seems to be hardwired to score just three runs against whomever is out there.
Against the Halladays and Oswalts, that seems spectatcular, but against the Billingsleys and the sucky slopballers, it seems so lame.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
We need a scatter diagram of runs scored for the Giants...
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I think what you mean is
it doesn’t matter as much because you can’t walk -3 times.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Doesn't matter
In the words of Grant, any pitcher is Cliff Lee to the Giants.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"We kicked their ass, we drank their whiskey, and we took their plane."- Mike Krukow
Heck
With our track record this year, Tommy Hanson could pitch a better game this series than Cliff Lee.
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Now that would be impressive
If Tommy Hanson could pitch a better game than Cliff Lee from his couch in Atlanta, I think he for sure would win World Series MVP
LOL.
Mah bad. Colby Lewis.
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If we win the series this year
I fully expect The Machine to be apart of the clubhouse celebration.
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Nah, the Machine should definitely be a part of the clubhouse celebration.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather see him get a share than Bengie.
/that’s_just_mean
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I don’t even know who we’re talking about. The Machine?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Rusty?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I was just being a jerk about the difference between apart and a part.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Wilson’s bondage slave in the Chris Rose (?) video.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
A bad translation of Kafka’s “Apparatus”.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Vladimir Guerrero starting game 1 in RF, possibly game 2 as well
Lets slap it to right field with Lee on the mound!. I never thought it would be possible for Bochy to out manage someone else, but there are some dumbbbbbbbb managers out there (see Manuel, Charlie & Washington, Ron)
by stab_master_arson on Oct 26, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
Again, the Giants are starting Pat Burrell in left field. They once had Burrell in left and Guillen in right field. Your argument is invalid.
by Every6thDay on Oct 26, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
True that
Did bork ever pull off the clank trifecta of burrel, rowand, guillen?
I don’t recall because the days of guillen starting everyday in right were that horrific but I imagine bork was salivating over the thought before guillen pulled a suck muscle.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
by sfgiants420 on Oct 26, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s hard to give him a slider in the field.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
If I was teaching kids how to catch fly balls (not throw) in the outfield, I'd use Rowand
He runs to the spot, uses both hands, and doesn’t showboat.
Andres occasionally does the one-hand thing. His main advantage over Rowand is his speed to the ball.
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by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't run to the spot.
Well, he does, but he’s still moving when he catches the ball. Use Torres for an example instead. He runs to where the ball will come down, stops, and then catches it.
by mrs. owlcroft on Oct 26, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah it’s like Ball In Play- Andres is under it in a haf second, waits 5 seconds for it to come down.
Rowand, he falls on his ass trying to get to the ball sometimes. Torres doesn’t do it like that.
Btw, anyone have an update on Torres? hip flexor ok?
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the first inside the parker I actually saw at AT&T was Vlad’s misplay in right during the ASG. Let’s hope for five of those.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you sure? I thought for sure it was Vlad.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. It was Griffey. Memory is a terrible recording device.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on...
You know how this works. Vad will make four outstanding catches and throw Posey out at the plate in game seven. However out bullpin holds on to our one run lead and we win it all.
by Lefty-is-crafty on Oct 26, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand, what was Flannery doing sending Posey on that play?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Panda was on deck
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
"there are some dumbbbbbbbb managers out there"
In fact, it is almost shocking to find one who isn’t. They all come out of pretty much the same environment, and their similarities are far greater than their differences. Soon or late, we’re going to start seeing some who understand modern baseball analysis, and then there will be some real differences.
Sabean delenda est!
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OT: LOL YANKEES
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5729471
good luck signing cliff lee to bad because according to “experts” the yankees “desparetely need him or they won’t be able to compete next year”.
Clearly the yankees were at a huge unfair disadvantage this year compared to other teams rosters and payrolls in the playoffs it brings a tear to my eye.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
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My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
“Jonathan Sanchez pitches to Elvis Andrus in the first inning of a baseball game.”
by Every6thDay on Oct 26, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Caption from ESPN
Freddy Sanchez pitches to Derek Jeter in game one of the World Series.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Caption:
Turn around alittle more Jonathan, I want to whistle at your butt.
Is this real life? Is this going to be forever?
Good to see a smile on Sanchez' face.
I rewatched his innings this morning on my eliptical, and he was getting squeezed in the first inning. Also looked like he didn’t have his best fastball. The first inning wasn’t that bad actually.
I wonder if Posey said anything like this in the dugout in teh middle of the 1st.
“Hey Sancho, looks like we got a wide zone tonight I couldn’t believe that ball he called a strike that was off the inside of the plate.”
Then Sanchez went out and got squeezed on a few pitches gets a little upset, then starts getting hit. He wasn’t really that wild in the first and he was very good in the second, then he went 0-2 on the first batter in the third, I think it was Polanco and proceded to throw 6 consecutive pitches out of the zone, none of which were very close at all and the last of which hit Uttley on the “6”.
Krukow said yesterday on the radio that he thought Sanchez was super amped because of his basehit, scoring and then later the game getting tied up. He thought that was biggest problem. and I tend to agree. I mean he was throwing okay in the first and well in the second then fell apart in the third.
I think he will be fine next time out.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
For better or worse
Sanchez’s last start has never seemed to affect his next one, which is good when his last start sucked. Less so when he pitched great one night then would go out and suck.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Speaking of the Rangers, they will be staying at the St. Francis in Union Square during Game 1 and Game 2. Lefty O’Douls, just across the street, promises to do everything in their power to give the Giants an advantage, which includes having a trumpeter on the sidewalk play at all hours of the night. Crafty.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
This is awesome.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Now we're talking.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Did the Phillies
Get the Tony Bruno Special at the Handlery?
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
Motel 6 is completely booked.
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When do they arrive? I’ll participate in some noise-making
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 26, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
O’Doul’s could offer all-day happy hour, to really get into Josh Hamilton’s head.
…It’s the internet. There is no such thing as “too far”
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes there is
And if there isn’t, there should be.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Who's got a vuvuzela still lying around?
We live walking distance to that hotel. You know, just want to do my part.
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BBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I’m buying one, but, sadly, it’s not anytime soon. You could always borrow the one the guy had when they welcomed back the team at AT&T.
I'm still in the old thread.
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Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, one you fuckers must work there. Make sure you get the night shifts and pull the fire alarm.
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by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Hamilton's story
How’s this for a fantastic next chapter? Hamilton fails miserably in the World Series. It’s touch and go whether he will fall apart. He even gets drunk one night. But no, thanks to (fill in the blank), he pulls through and returns in top form in 2011. Getting destroyed by the Giants allows him to prove once and for all that he has truly overcome his demons. “I owe it all to those sombreros Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Bumgarner hung on me,” Hamilton said tearfully, as he accepted the 2011 MVP.
C’mon Josh. Let us help you through this.
by NearestNorwich on Oct 26, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
Finally, the news we were all waiting for
First 3 national anthem performers announced
Game 1: John Legend
Game 2: Lady Antebellum
Game 3: Kelly Clarkson
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 26, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
Did the programming director at Alice 97.3 have an "in" with MLB?
by Every6thDay on Oct 26, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
/Cancels trip to Texas
Wow, that’s quiet a trifecta of suck. I know that Mychayl Ubayne will be happy for game 1.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I have no particular problem with John Legend.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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No Coast Bias
If this is what it takes to not have Huey Lewis sing, I guess I’ll take it.
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"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Antebellum?
Is that some kind of Mushroom?
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I like John Legend. The others are vomitous. I suppose they got Lady Antebellum because they’re playing a show at SJSU on Friday.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 26, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually kind of like Kelly Clarkson. She creates a rather amazing brand of terrible music.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
She's awesome now, check this out!
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Lady A plays some pretty catchy/easy to listen to music.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
So you’re telling me they’re saving Deerhoof for Game 6? I’m fine with that.
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by Kitspool on Oct 26, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
National Anthem (the way it should be):
Game 1: Metallica (full on instrumental assault)
Game 2: Tony Bennett (change up!)
Game 3: Roseanne Barr
Game 4: Carl Lewis
Game 5: Wing (of South Park fame)
Game 6: Radiohead (singing the song “National Anthem”… followed quickly by “Kid A”)
Giants win… there will be no need for Game 7.
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The PacT&T PA played Radiohead’s National Anthem for a few of Zito’s last starts.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
I thought it was Idioteque?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yeah, it was Idioteque. Still cool.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Oh yeah.
But then Zito pitches.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
ICE AGE COMIN
ICE AGE COMIN
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Willie got his arm back!
I know this crude, but I only had like 5 minutes to kill.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
The ESPN predictions
To be fair, didn’t they say that if only we had Pujols at first, Cano at second, Hanley at short, Longoria at third, Holliday, CarGo, and Ichiro in the outfield, we might have a chance?
by NearestNorwich on Oct 26, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
Well that’s just stupid. We all know Cargo can’t hit on the road.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Oct 26, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, but I think the answer is Texas is closer to East Coast than San Francisco, so they are inherently better. Therefore for the Giants to have a chance, we need to move San Francisco closer to the East Coast.
by CrispinGloversBalls on Oct 26, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
what if the Giants just totally break character and just blow out the rangers and take
the series in 4. While unleashing an offense that put up double digit runs in every game. I dont want torture anymore.
LOL U
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I would be okay with that.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And mokeys might fly out of my butt!
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, did you put any monkeys in your butt?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
If that happened...
…San Francisco would be celebrating its first World Series title ever…on Halloween night. Can you even imagine?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
That actually just gave me goosebumps.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d actually look like I dressed up for Halloween for once.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Eli gets in the game under two circumstances:
1. 16 inning game, and we need a pinch-hitter for Mota
2. I can’t even think about this…
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What you want is irrelevant; what you’ve chosen is at hand.
by Every6thDay on Oct 26, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
can you give me the drugs that let you see things like this?
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Timmy
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Weed for tickets? Yep, the Giants are definitely playing in the World Series.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"We kicked their ass, we drank their whiskey, and we took their plane."- Mike Krukow
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7087147
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL "Barry Zito pitched batting practice"
Sounds about right.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
I think I'd rather have him than Mota
After all, could use him for a Jonthan-melts-down-in-the-third situation.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Psssssh, like that would ever happen.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i think we’ve all seen what happens after Jonathan melts down in the 3rd…
the ’pen puts up goose eggs
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Weird that he’s pitching in simulated games when he’s not even on the WS roster.
by Every6thDay on Oct 26, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 26, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
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Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
Whoa...
I thought you meant former USA Today Sports Weekly editor Paul White. He was the only one of their 7 or 8 “experts” who picked the Giants to win the World Series (over the Yankees).
But then I noticed the octopus…
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?
That's bad
When their own fans want that stupid mascot gone.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"We kicked their ass, we drank their whiskey, and we took their plane."- Mike Krukow
Not according to the poll here: http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_16348486?source=commented-rockies&_requestid=21237567
Pull your kids from school and get them Twitter accounts. Let them learn from the people!
This reminds me
An unnannounced appearance by Crazy Crab during Game 1 or Game 2 would be hot.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I would LOL.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Crazy Crab to throw out the first pitch for Game One
“Hey, Frank, how about letting me pitch a couple of innings…?”
“I told you never to touch me again…”
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Oct 26, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
VAPORS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 26, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
New Bengie Blog!
http://bengiemolina.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/10/back_in_san_francisco.html
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
ftfy
READ MY FAT SOMEONE’S BLOG
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Benjie is aces in my book.
Willie Mac award winner makes it so.
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Just me.
As a recovering alcoholic I find the media playing up struggles with addiction for distasteful. Condescending congratulations are praise are heaped on, and then they turn around next breath and give you the line-ups sponsored by Bud Light.
But that’s just me. I’m not watching these games for the “storylines”, I want to be entertained by millionaire jocks.
(Congrats are in order for that kid. But it’s his life now until he dies, not trivia for Joe Buck read off a card.)
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Commercials are sort of…what’s the word….
Out of place?
It’s an odd notion of culture when the evening news is brought to you by a sober, well dressed news anchor who informs you in level, respectful tones about the recent horrific tragedy, and then….
Brought to you by BUD LIGHT!
/commercial wherein all characters behave like selfish morons
I have this suspicion that whenever future generations contemplate our culture, they will heap laughter on every serious moment on television because of the complete change in tone every time it goes to commercial. “How could they take this seriously?!”
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I want to be entertained by millionaire jocks.
TWSS
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I feel bad, now, because your post was kinda serious.
A friend of mine just fell of the wagon…. On the day the Giants clinched, actually. Put a real downer on the festivities.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
HOW DARE YOU
I would be INSULTED if you DIDN’T make a joke.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It's sort of like
The Secretary of Defense, brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Really liked the Caple article on Lincecum and his dad.
It was concern over Lincecum’s size and mechanics that infamously scared away the Mariners in the 2006 draft. Rather than pick the hometown kid who had starred with the Huskies, Seattle instead drafted Brandon Morrow, then handicapped his progress by constantly switching him back from starting to relief before trading him this past winter for reliever Brandon League. None of which has gone over well in Seattle, where Mariners fans have endured two 101-loss seasons while Lincecum has been winning Cy Youngs and taking his team to the World Series.
“Here’s the deal,” Chris says when I asked about the Mariners, "wouldn’t you want to play in your hometown in front of your family and friends? You’re a star in college — he has the Pac-10 strikeout record, 491 strikeouts in three years, which broke the record [that was set] in four years. Why would a team not pick him after that year? He was disappointed they didn’t come after him. He was the 10th pick overall. When I look at the pitchers above him, they haven’t done much or they’ve been hurt. I guess size isn’t a big deal. Or mechanics.
“Was I disappointed that he didn’t go to the Mariners? I’d like to have him around town. I’d like to see him pitch here so I could be there. I don’t follow him around the country. He doesn’t need me there. I see him on TV. If he needs help, he can call me.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=caple_jim&id=5728944
Yeah, it’s a good one.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
SEATTLOL
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
As an SF native living in Seattle, allow me to say EL OH EL
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 26, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the worst part of this
is that Morrow looks like he is going to blossom in Toronto as well.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
The Panda hat thing was amusing... once or twice.
But it’s become annoying and old rather quickly
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Chasm? (I hope.)
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool. Wasn’t sure—things are a bit heated upthread in the substance abuse thread.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
tuna salad = peace
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 26, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Mae West "I'm an Occidental Woman in an Oriental Mood.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93irzDdM9FU&p=8C0E508FA0868A4E&playnext=1&index=28
Mae does it just for Mr. pitching machine
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
I am currently sitting in Philly International
Coming home for Game 1! WOOOO
LOL PHL is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying. If you want food you have to walk like 15 miles usually.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
US Airways?
I really hate flying them. Always running late, make my connections too tight, once missed a job interview because their plane broke and they tried to buy me off with a $50 voucher (got a full ticket refund with one kindly worded yet subtly threatening e-mail).
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 26, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. They’re my least favorite carrier, which is saying a lot, because they all generally suck.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
JetBlue is usually pretty good
Satellite TV at every seat in coach
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Yeah, wherever they fly. I have no idea. I’ve never lived anywhere where they were an option.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Spirit? Aren’t they the ones that seriously considered charging a fee to use the restroom?
Southwest is alright. Defintely better than USAir.
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Watch
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
"We kicked their ass, we drank their whiskey, and we took their plane."- Mike Krukow
Wow, I thought that image of the guy in the S&M suit was shopped.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
For example, the Rangers could have had Jim Brower, Scott Eyre, Matt Herges, Dustin Hermanson, Brett Tomko, A.J. Pierzynski, Pedro Feliz, J.T. Snow, Jeffrey Hammonds, Dustan Mohr, and Michael Tucker for what they paid for Vlad, but instead they got snookered into paying for just one productive hitter. Those saps!
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I'm not sure if you've already discussed this elsewhere on McCovery Chronicles, but what's your opinion of starting Sanchez in games 3 and 7 and Bumgarner only in game 4?
I think that Bumgarner is way more likely to pitch better right now (although Sanchez always has the potential to dominate). I don’t have any data or study available at hand, but I imagine that the importance of control becomes magnified during the postseason, and I feel a lot more comfortable with Bumgarner on the mound than Sanchez). What are your thoughts, Giants fans?
Its cool. B/c MadBum can come in and save the day still.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Game Seven is all hands on deck...
Probably a good choice for such a game. He’ll have a leash as short as he did in Game Six
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
We’ll worry about that if and when we come to it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
can you imagine the ticket prices
for a game 7?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
There’s actually evidence that being able to strike batters out is more imortant that control in the postseason.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else think...
…the difference in these offenses is being completely overblown?
The Giants finished 8th in the NL with a .259 True Average and Texas was 7th in the AL with a .263 TAv and will be without a DH in at least 40% of the games.
The Rangers are not the mashers we’re making them out to be…
What is true average?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The AL is also better than the NL…..
I think it’s overblown, just because in a 7 game series, luck matters a whole lot more than skill.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
lets not forget that those numbers are based off of EQA
This is fine for a player to player comparison but on a team to team comparison you will get to much of a variation for it to be of any value. Either you take the entire Rangers offensive output and get the “true average” or EQA and fall into the hole in the fact the Rangers major bats all missed major chunks of the season or you get a lineup average or lineup weighted average and miss the component that for huge stretches of the season more than one core bat was out of the lineup and still undervalue the Rangers lineup.
Just by checking ESPN and looking at the total number of games played you start to see the reasons why the Rangers offensively are probably understated.
Cruz missing 8 weeks and playing 108 games
Hamilton missing a month and playing 133 games
Kinsler missing 8 weeks and played 103 games
I am fairly sure that the Texas 15 day DL was pretty heavily used this season and mostly with the offensive stars missing chunks of time.
There was a point when Texas was playing TB that Hamilton, Kinsler, Young, Andrus and Cruz where all out…
I don’t think it was until the last week of the season that Cruz, Hamilton, Young, and Kinsler had been in the lineup together since early May. That in itself a key factor in why the offense picked up in the playoffs.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Well, if we’re going to go down that route, the Giants played a lot of games this year without some of their most important position players (Andres Torres, Pat Burrell, Buster Posey, Freddy Sanchez, etc.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
that is kinda the point
variation wise Texas lost guys with much higher EQA’s but the Giants didn’t have a large part of their current lineup together till late into the season. So both sets of EQA’s would have massive flaws regardless of how they are compiled.
That is the flaw any form of calculation trying to pool player performance into a team metric. It is not in a 1 to 1 factor and does not in any way provide any true analysis. Lineup construction matters because of the dependent nature of the events in a baseball game. It isn’t something that will make a huge difference with mild fluctuation but teams like the Rangers and Giants who have had major shifts in their roster and lineup construction for extended parts of the season will not fit this model very well and most likely fall well outside the normal variance.
It looks pretty and is a nice thing to throw out into a conversation at as a comparison between individual players but has little to no predictive value. All it can provide is a historical component to compare in generalities.
In a lot of ways this is forces people to do small sample size analysis of the last month or so of the season and then the playoffs to create an offensive profile of both teams.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Just use projections for each individual player. No need to use small samples.
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/10/25/1774839/new-york-yankees-2010-al-champions
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
They love their bold over at LL (but there is some brilliant shit there).
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
Apparently
their posting code/guidelines states all comments must have a subject.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I think they get banned if they don’t use subject lines
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Quick question, good people...
I have this fabulous .gif I’ve created that I am waiting to unleash on all of you… but I want to be respectful of file size, etc…
Are there guidelines for this sort of thing? I’ve noticed files of various sizes and shapes, so there’s that… Your input welcome.
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
My .gif is ribbed...
for HER pleasure.
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
IM GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT SHE LIKES!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
how about
smaller is better.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 26, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
See if your wife buys that argument
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
And if she does would your wife let her in the club?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I personally try to make all GIFs carppy (see above) or not to aroung 300X400 or smaller.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No. I'm confident it's too awesome to hide.
TWSS.
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
You could always link it, then those that want to see it can click it at their own risk.
Jeaaaggaahh
by Soulbrother16 on Oct 26, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me of that Kenny Powers reference to file prep...
The one where he has Large format banners printed of him and he makes a comment like…“They look shitty. What did he print that from a jpeg or something? Motherfucker needs to be using TIFF files…” LOL Classic!
I think we really should set some kind of limits. People have been getting ridiculous with image sizes.
maybe set it after the world series?
i mean that would (maybe) limit peoples creativity
Art thrives on breaking the rules!
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
99.9% of teh Gifs are just copy and paste URL’s. I would be down with setting a limit of 1 or 2 gif.s per thread.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm okay with limiting everyone else, but surely you don't mean me!!!!???
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
BUT WHAT ABOUT TEH BUSTER PHOTOS!!!!!!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
So...
…you’re saying that the 14″ × 16″, 350 dpi animated .gif is a tad large? (TWSS)
www.zenpop.com - Rock Posters, Illustrations, Magazine Covers and more!
AWESOME!
(of course when the fire marshal is sifting through the ashes and finds this thread, you will be blamed.)
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i don’t think anyone cares how big it is so long as it has a subject line
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
No, some are just ridiculous even with the SL.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Sasha Vujacic married Sharpova?
What kind of awful world is this?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
oh, they're just engaged
Still horrendous.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Vujacic is MUCH MUCH worse.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This. Who cares about Marko Jaric. I say good for him, even if he did steal my woman. Vujacic though? Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
So the long number intensive analysis that will make your eyes cross
Okay first, I am taking post-all star numbers. That is when the teams that currently are there were who they are ( in other words TExas has Molina and we have Posey! )… but I glanced at the season numbers getting there and they are within points. So not a big change
Texas 52 SB .274/.332/.411 72-HR 116-DB 11-T
SanFr 21 SB .253/.315/.411 80-HR 133-DB 12-T
Okay first thing — WOW that is a big difference in SB and BA !!!
But then that is what speed gets you. More infield hits beaten out.
The thing not so easily noticed is 21 point BA difference followed by 17 point OBP difference followed by ZERO SLG difference!
In other words, the Giants actually walk MORE and have MORE power than Texas. In fact the listing of Extra Base Hits have the Giants with about 10% more in every single one. Even the speed affected XBH such as triples!
But it is worse. Texas’ totals include a DH!
Though in this case it doesn’t matter much … why?
Because despite the gaudy numbers … Vlad’s numbers where all first half.
Second half he was
.278/.322/.428 which is pretty much in line with the overall team averages. A lil high here a little low there but only half his numbers removed won’t change the comparison.
Mostly, the offense comparison is SF and Texas have the same overall team with Texas having speed and SF having power.
SF has an addl advantage with the Gap ( no other way to explain so much less SB and yet more triples and doubles ) which of course could be REAL fun if Vlad plays RF.
In other words … the offense of Texas is a tad over-hyped.
But Nightwing was Robin….
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa… I didn’t know there were so many different Nightwings in the DC universe. You might have to be more specific about which one you mean, E6D.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
If I knew more about teh comix I'd be all over this, but I'm afraid I can't be more specific.
Also, am I the only one who looks at the abbreviation for my screen name and thinks “erectile dysfunction”?
I look at your screen name and think erectile dysfunction. I mean everyone has a refractory period but six days?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Post Allstar break
numbers forget to reflect that Cruz, Hamilton, and Kinsler missed large chunks of that time.
Hamilton missed 25 games post All Star break
Cruz missed 22 games post All Star break
Kinsler missed 36 games post All Star break
I am actually shocked the power numbers are as close as they are when the prorated loss from those 3 guys post ASB would be around 20 2Bs and approximately 15 HRs if not more due to how the ball carries in that park due to the simmer heat.
That once again is the problem with using rate stats in combination with counting stats. If the .SLG is the same then post ASB the Giants and Rangers produced the same amount of power per PPA. The problem is that arguably 3 of the Rangers top 5 hitters missed a 1/3rd of the post ASB games while producing the same amount of .SLG per PPA.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I'm not sure where to put this (because we have a few Hamilton subthreads)
But I’m still like HOLY SHIT about this story and the fanpost too.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
Really? He made a mistake and fell off the wagon. He’s a recovering addict, not a recovered one. He admitted to it said and said as much.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
They’re just pissed off that Upton isn’t hitting like Hamilton and that their name is obsolete.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we just have an immediate moratorium on Hamilton drug history, relapse, etc… It’s just not relevant to the baseball to be played, nor is it a subject that should be joked about. Let’s just leave it/him alone.
by out machine on Oct 26, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
A SIGN?
From the Game 6 postgame thread
If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!
-Doc Brown, Zito fan
by jordanovich on Oct 26, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
:O
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
LOCK IT!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Took me a while.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
JINX
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Last night I heard my wife (newly converted Giants fan)...
softly singing the words to the Ashkon song while doing the dishes. It was great!
Yeah, I’ve listened to it like twice a day since I found it. Definitely gets stuck in my head. Funny, since pretty much the only lyrics I know of “Don’t Stop Beleivin’” are “don’t stop beleivin’.”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t Stop Blylevin?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Just an American man, born but not raised in Central Holland!
He took the midnight plane going anywhere…
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
I like where this is going.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
A pitcher with 283 wins
fell 13 short man what a sin
3701 k’s just aint enough
why he should be in the hof i could go on and on and on
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Votes?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i meant to get to 300 wins which would have gotten him his hall of fame lock. I just wrote 13 for some reason
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
17 has too many syllables.
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
’se’enteen’
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Towers of midnight release in one week
cant fucking wait for the return to rand land. Mat going after moranine. Rand balefiring some bitches. Egwene continuing to suck. Ive missed it so much
if only brandon sanderson could take over writing a song of ice and fire too
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions
I’m looking forward to it, but I might go back and read through the series again in anticipation – at least up until Moraine goes MIA.
The dude is doing a pretty good job. I’m glad they’re finishing the series out.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
my best friend still hasnt read gathering storm because he insisted on reading all previous 11 books before he started and waited until the release to begin his reread.
I agree about rereading up until moraine falls into the gate. Thats actually where I did my reread up to too. Lol.
Brandon Sanderson is amazing. I really want to read his other works. I hear his mistborn trilogy is good. About what happens if the bad guy win. What ive heard is imagina LOTR if sauramon got the ring back.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
hey fuck you man
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Oct 26, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
GRRM pisses me off. he cares more about jets football at the tv show than he does about the series. I just had to go through an author dying with the wheel of time. And at least robert jordan had time to prepare and a wife to tell all his plans too. GRRM is old, not in good shape, and alone. If he dies that really it. they cant continue the series without him. So he needs to cut this 5 years in between each book bullshit out
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
that being said I love grrm as a writer and didnt mean to sound so negative. If i ever have another son his name will be Eddard
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Five years actually isn’t that long of a time to wait for a well-written book. I mean, assuming these are well written. I haven’t read them.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
you definitely should. Whether you like fantasy books at all isn’t important. They are some the best written books I have ever read and the story is magnificent.
The 5 years thing comes from him continuing to over write if there is such a thing. book 4 ended up being split into 2 books because he wanted to expand so much. He continually pushes back release dates and has even deleted almost an entire finished manuscript because he wanted to go into another direction with the story. I dont mind the wait but like I said the fantasy community went through this once with robert jordan and they dont want to have it happen again. If he was 30 this wouldnt be a problem.
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
they’re pretty much the best speculative fiction being written right now.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 26, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
the next book will be done before christmas
and the book after that is already partly done, due to Martin moving certain finished chapters into it instead of Dance With Dragons, so hopefully it will not take so long. However, that’s all been said before….
I went through Jordan too, but these books are better than WOT and are worth the wait. He isn’t Dean Koontz, who writes five books a year with the same plot. Besides, we’ll have a HBO show soon to watch.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Im a Warriors fan too... but i just cant get the new Jerseys...
It’s a failed attempt at trying mix old and the new. The logo and typeface is pretty horrendous. At least all my Giants gear looks good to wear for any occasion.
Yeah.
They aren’t garish 90s embarrassing like they used to be, just sort of dull. I like what they attempted to do with bringing back the bridge but the typefaces are so bad it detracts from the concept.
And yeah those throwbacks are sweet, blue and gold with red accents is sweet. I’d like to see what The City jerseys would look like with red accents.
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
These are the throwbacks they wore last year
And I’d like to apply that color scheme to these jerseys.
Look at my website. Look at it. || Screw Johnsonville Sausages and Safeway. I have my reasons. || I pity the fool that falls in love with [THE SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS]
I don’t understand how you can let a typeface ruin the whole thing. It’s a minor detail.
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL COPPERPLATE
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Exactly.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda agree, and kinda disagree. I think they didn’t live up to the potential they had. They could have been great, and certainly much better than they are. That said, they’re still at least decent, and much, much, much better than previous versions. I don’t see any reason to feel like you have to hide it…..
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s why I picked one of these up.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you know what?!?!
I would trade Grant (mike fontenot) for these guys! 
Betcha they were shooting spitwads when the camera wasn't looking.
And kicking the backs of the chairs in front of them.
Pudgy Cain is pudgy.
short hair is short for both of ’em
by giant4life83 on Oct 26, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
1100+ posts...
and no mention of Mitch Moreland. Not sure if I can wait for Pt II
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
CHRIS DAVIS WAS THEIR FUTURE111
"Life is like a grapefruit. It's orange and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, and some people have a half a one for breakfast."
Ted Williams: .406 1941
Gary Brown: .438 2010
by operation carrot on Oct 26, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a new thread....
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/10/26/1776290/rangers-hitting-preview-part-ii#storyjump
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How'd you find out?
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
Twitter.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, reply fail balls.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 26, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL U
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 26, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would I reply to fail balls?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 26, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
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