Superstition, Statistics, and Science
So a funny thing happened to me Thursday morning. Some who rides the Caltrain shuttle with me in Palo Alto asked me if I was "Superstitious? Or just a fan?". I was wearing my Giants cap, black leather jacket, black cords and orange shirt. I almost replied "just a fan" but admitted, "Superstitious.". She replied that that she was superstitious but not about baseball, and I admitted that I was *only* superstitious about baseball.
Friday morning, the day after the game 5 loss. I felt bad; almost hungover. I thought of her thinking how awful it must feel to be like this all the time. Doing crazy stuff (and there have been dozens if not hundreds on comments on it here -- including "stay in the hospital", "don't ever go to another game", etc. etc.) because you feel desperate to have SOME influence on an event that carries so much meaning for you.
And why is that? I'm a pretty rational dude. But I have always been superstitious about baseball; even when I spend half the time talking to myself about how silly it is. But I have worn my Giants hat every playoff game day -- and not worn it at all during the year except for a couple of ball games I actually went to.
Lets go back a step. Why are people superstitious at all? It seems pretty self-evident (provided a cursory knowledge of evolution and human psychology) that superstitious behavior is at least related to reason and inference. Something happens to us -- good or bad -- and our brains try to force and understanding or predictability on future like events. Now in the case where there is a readily apparent pattern - "if it rains, I will get wet". "If there are dark clouds, it often rains". "If I see dark clouds, and want to avoid getting wet, I should seek cover in case it rains". Where it really becomes classical "superstition" is when the reinforcement is intermittent. I am not the first person to point this out - in fact, Wikipedia entry on superstition summarizes none other than BF Skinner.
Originally, in Skinner's animal research, "some pigeons responded up to 10,000 times without reinforcement when they had originally been conditioned on an intermittent reinforcement basis."[9] Compared to the other reinforcement schedules (e.g. fixed ratio, fixed interval), these behaviours were also the most resistant to extinction.[9] This is called the partial reinforcement effect, and this has been used to explain superstitious behaviour in humans. To be more precise, this effect means that, whenever an individual performs an action expecting a reinforcement, and none seems forthcoming, it actually creates a sense of persistence within the individual.[10] This strongly parallels superstitious behaviour in humans because the individual feels that, by continuing this action, reinforcement will happen; or that reinforcement has come at certain times in the past as a result of this action, although not all the time, but this may be one of those times. From a simpler perspective, natural selection will tend to reinforce a tendency to generate weak associations. If there is a strong survival advantage to making correct associations, then this will outweigh the negatives of making many incorrect, "superstitious" associations.[11]
Skinner might have been wrong about the pigeons, but I think his theory of human superstition is essentially correct. Now - what is the difference between superstition and religion? Well, essentially the model of reality! In religion - some supernatural forces and/or gods control the outcomes. Our actions can influence the gods in their control over events. Note that this is actually no difference between religion and science here! They are both different models of reality! So - what is the difference between superstition and statistics? The only real difference is that in statistics, you keep better notes! In fact, for 90% of statistics as applied to the real world - be it baseball or genetics or meteorology the underlying model is not relevant. It is a technique of pure outcome prediction; quantitative superstition, if you will. (I feel compelled to point out for those who don't know; I am a big fan of statistics in baseball.)
So that brings us back to baseball. All those playoff stats? Superstitions. Pitcher/Batter splits? Superstition. 11-0 at home? Superstition. Just because you count something doesn't make your (non) model predictive. And that is why baseball is so superstitious. It is the absolute KING of intermittent reinforcement. You have guys throwing a 3.5" irregular sphere 60' at 90 mph trying to carve a special arc through an invisible box while another guy takes a rounded oddly shaped club and tries to hit it where 7 other guys ain't. There are literally hundreds of sources of human error / extreme performance on every pitch; and about 330 pitches per game. It's amazing that it's even recognizable on a day-to-day basis as the same activity. We might as well just throw a big bag of quarters on the field and decide who gets to go to the World Series (Giants get 2 bags).
So why does it hurt so damn much when they lose? There's an evolutionary biology answer for that one too... but I think I have rambled on enough. But I will leave you with this. We fans don't always bet on our teams with our wallets. But we bet with our hearts, minds, and spirits.
Rollin' the dice
Just
One
More
Time.
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I very interesting perspective. As an actuary I’ve often felt like statistics ARE my religion and with this post you’ve provided me another brick in my bridge between the two. Thank you! =)
Oh and I’m going to read this 2 more times since the Giants always win when I read a McCovven article 3 times before going to bed the night before the game. ;o)
by CoJax on Oct 22, 2010 11:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I tried to deal with much of the same things in the poem I posted here today (though I fear it was too far out there for most). Though I do believe ‘the magic’ of allied chance events is real, and rational…though incomprehensible (and such is not superstition).
But no doubt on the superstitious element of all this. Helpful post.
ack. ‘superstitious element of all this’ this being fandom.
by haverecords on Oct 22, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Thong
Thong
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Aubrey Huff
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
You don't need superstition
You got me on your side.
It's magic inside, and that doesn't only mean Aubrey's junk.
by Aubrey Huff's Thong on Oct 23, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Backside that is!
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 24, 2010 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing you do, short of unthinkable violence, will have the slightest effect on a ballgame. So enjoy it the same way you enjoy a rollercoaster.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
You want me to vomit at every Giants game?
My son is Madison Bumgarner, the Bipolar Stuffed Sheep of pitching prospects. My other son is a Porsche.
by multiphasic on Oct 23, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I know this, yet I’m debating which orange shirt to wear today (I gave up on actual jerseys during games 1 and 2 against the Padres at the end of the regular season).
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 23, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
So you saying cry, " WEEE WEEE WWEEEE" as Jazz Hannds runs all the way home?
Threat level that the 2010 Pads finish with more wins than the 2010 Giants is currently at: 61%
Spoiler: Grumpy older Giants fan is Grumpy.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
Superstition emerges from importance and success
As the importance of an outcome increases, so also will the importance of a superstitious act or belief that is associated with it. Furthermore, as the likelihood of a positive outcome decreases, any random act associated with a positive outcome is considered more important. This can work both ways (blessing or curse).
Consider Aubrey’s thong. If he wears the thong during a regular season game in which he has the game winning RBI, he’ll probably consider that as potentially useful. If he’s wearing the thong again during game 6 of the NLCS and gets an RBI, he’ll probably attach a lot more significance to it. On the other hand, if he strikes out 4 times in a playoff game while wearing the thong, he’ll probably never wear it again.
There’s an ongoing conversation among Saints fans about the dreaded Black Pants. The objective evidence is actually quite startling – since 2006, the Saints have a .500 winning percentage in black pants, .690 winning percentage in gold. A number of the players, though, have been quoted as preferring the black pants. But for the fans, they remember the Saints losing to Tampa Bay at the end of 2009 when they clearly should have won and secured home field advantage in the playoffs. Regardless of any other evidence, fans will latch onto that kind of performance and remember it more clearly than others.
According to my own superstitious beliefs, significance of positive outcome is far more important than frequency of positive outcome in determining correlation with a superstitious act.
Thus
My belief in a Giants World Series victory is unshakeable. Beginning with the Penguins winning the Stanley Cup last year, I have witnessed one magical season after another for my favorite pro sports teams. I am saddened by the fact that this belief also tells me that the Hornets will beat the Miami Heat in the upcoming NBA Finals.
Religion
Not all religions embrace supernatural forces or omnipotent gods. The main function of religion is to identify something worthy of worship — ie. you are not embarrassed attaching the word “sacred” to it — and developing the rituals to allow followers to feel more aligned with whatever that is. It could be Nature, for example. The power of religion that works positively for people is that it makes happy times happier and sorrow more bearable. I’ll skip mentioning the negative aspects. My attachment to baseball is more religious than superstitious.
by NearestNorwich on Oct 24, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
Part of it..
Part of what I think compels otherwise rational people to behave in superstitious ways, especially around baseball, is just the comradery of the thing. In addition to that desperate need to have some effect with our support, it just amplifies the aspect of being a part of something larger than ourselves, which is one of the few things they’ve found that actually makes people “happier” once their immediate needs are met.
That said, I spent half of last night’s game with a rally towel on my head. I still can’t figure out what’s worse: the fact that I thought that was a good and helpful thing in the first place, or that the bartender at our local kept saying “Now, YOU KEEP THAT THING ON” if I even adjusted it.
So it goes.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~Art Hill
I thought this was going to be an explication of the latest entry in the NY Times’ “The Stone” series, which was all about statistics vs narrative — which I read and, without exaggeration or intentional comic effect, comprehended not a single paragraph between the first and the last.
But I can contribute that
Our actions can influence the gods in their control over events.
is unintentionally hilarious. Anyone who has ever immersed himself in the contemplation of “the divine” arrives at the conclusion that he has no control over anything important whatsoever, and calls this wisdom. (And it is.)
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Rain dances? Faith healing? Hell, Christian Zionists believe (or at the least some of them do, though I’m pretty sure they all do) that if they’ll get all the Jews to move into Israel, they’ll help bring the second coming of Christ. If that doesn’t count as “anything important”, I don’t know what does.
I actually really liked that article, but to each his own.

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