Bruce Bochy and the playoffs
Not-so-secret secret: every manager is awful. Every manager does everything wrong at the exact wrong time. Read the comments of a blog or listen to talk radio some time. In every market, for every team, managers exist to do stupid, irrational things.
It’s no different here. Ever since Felipe Alou retired -- after warming up his retirement on and off right in front of us for a couple of years -- Bruce Bochy has frustrated Giants fans. Some people complain that he doesn’t know how to play "small ball." Luckily, most of those people don’t have electricity, so they can’t bother us here. For most of the eLunatic Fringe, though, the problem was that Bochy wasn’t playing the right guys. He couldn’t tell the difference between the washed-up veteran (Dave Roberts) and the obvious superstar in the making (uh, Eugenio Velez?)
Bochy is an awful manager. For a team trying to figure out its identity, that is. For a team trying to determine which of their players are going to be around for the next cycle of success, Bochy is terrible. To him, the answer is always Vinny Castilla. It might not be the real Vinny Castilla, but it will be someone close enough. Give him a choice of a couple of young players with a little upside and, hello, some dinged-up veteran a couple of years removed from success, Bochy takes the latter. Every time. It’s bizarre and frustrating. Last year the Giants had the least productive right fielder in the major leagues and the most productive right fielder in the minor leagues, and yet the former started every...single...day while the latter languished on the bench or in the minors.
Bochy is a fantastic manager, too. Give him a lineup with few ambiguities, and the strengths far outweigh the weaknesses. Right now, Bochy knows about 7/8ths of the lineup before he sits down to write a new one out. Through trial and error and whiff, he’s figured out that his best lineup doesn’t include Aaron Rowand or Edgar Renteria, yesterday’s game notwithstanding. The emergence of Andres Torres, Aubrey Huff, Pat Burrell, Juan Uribe and Buster Posey gave him five fewer spots with which to do something nutty. Jose Guillen’s neck injury helped free Cody Ross, and Freddy Sanchez hit enough in the second half to secure his spot.
That leaves one lineup spot up in the air. Sometimes Bochy plays Fontenot, sometimes he goes with Renteria or Sandoval. I think the choice is clear (Sandoval) but I can understand the arguments for the others. That’s it. That’s the only ambiguity in the lineup, and it’s not that big of a deal. There aren’t any Fred Lewii or John Bowkers to get worked up about. This isn’t a completely miserable lineup looking for a piece of pyrite that the team can pretend is gold. This is an established lineup. A tick below-average, sure, but it’s about the best the Giants can throw out there.
What that leaves the Giants with is a manager who doesn’t waste a lot of outs with bunts, who doesn’t warm up his bullpen relentlessly and needlessly, who has the respect of his players, who has a temperament that’s even enough to absorb the tough losses and calm a clubhouse, who walks the fine line between the pitch-count ninnies and the complete-game fetishists, who isn't scared of using his closer in the eighth inning, and who recognizes that Madison Bumgarner is more reliable than Barry Zito. That last one is easy to take for granted, but a ton of managers out there would be starting Zito tonight because of the experience angle.
The Bochy who watches over a rebuilding team or a team trying to find an offensive identity? Maddening. Awful. The Bochy who doesn’t have to think about mixing and matching different lineup pieces? Pretty danged good.
And, yes, I’m aware that by writing this, I’ve guaranteed that four innings will end tonight on strike-them-out, throw-them-out double plays. Couldn’t help it. Remove the wretches who tempt Bochy so, and he’s a good manager, especially in the playoffs. Everybody’s borking for the weekend. Weekdays, too. Tonight, even. Go local sports team.
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I pretty much agree there. I’d call the two modes “rebuilding” and “asskicking.” With a young, awesome pitching staff, we should be in asskicking mode for a few more seasons. I’m fine having Bochy stick around and help with that.
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bruce's abilities as manager directly correlate to the quality of the GM above him
As goes Brian in creating a decent team, so goes Bruce in managing, so go the Giants. Here’s hoping the magic continues for another 7 wins.
Also, the plural of Lewis is “geese”.
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Just because you can condense my 1,000 words into 30 or so, doesn’t mean you have to be a dick about it. Sheesh.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 20, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
the plural of penis is penes
the plural of Lewis would be Lewes.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
But he’ll only make 30 cents, while you made ten dollars!
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by shanghaijim on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You're sexier
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7 more wins!
Cactus League opener?
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 20, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
If this season proves one thing
It’s that Bochy needs to manage every cactus league game like it’s the 7th game of the WS.
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i'm on board
WS trophy and a No. 1 overall draft pick two years later? DYNASTY IN THE MAKING!
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Honk.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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+1
We’ll (probably) never know which players Bochy was championing during his conversations with BS and others concerning the postseason rosters. However, I’m convinced that Bochy was fighting hard for Zito, Rowand, and Guillen (over Mota, Nate and Ross) before the NLDS with the Braves. Probably he wasn’t pushing Guillen, but that would only be because he really was injured, but if Guillen wasn’t obviously hurt then I’m sure Bochy would have argued vociferously for him over Ross. Also, given the option, I’m sure that he would have picked Zito to start game 4 instead of MadBum.
Let’s not forget that the only reason why Bengie wasn’t still starting 80% of the games at catcher in July and August (and in the playoffs) was that BS finally realized that the only way to get Buster behind the plate full time would be to get Bengie off the roster. Let’s also not forget that Bochy started Guillen in RF 80% of the time in September (while we were fighting for our playoff life), when it was obvioius to any decent baseball evaluator that the Giants were a better team with Ross there – both at the plate and in the field. Finally, let’s also not forget that, until yesterday’s game, Bochy refused to move Ross up from the #8 spot in the lineup despite the fact that he was their best hitter and run producer in the playoffs, and that the Giants’ were struggling to score runs.
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by Fla-Giant on Oct 20, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Gotta agree here.
You nailed it.
Maybe Sabean is just wising up and getting Bochy to stop making retarded decisions.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I would like to suggest a possibility
that Neukom has something to do with it, whether spooking Revetria into throwing his weight around or by going to some meetings and asking a few pointed questions of Brain and Botchy both.
No evidence, other than that there was this mystifying midseason maneuvering, a waiver claim, and so on. Neukom is the only different part in the equation.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
MAYBE NEUKOM READS MCC
HI BOWTIE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be
Although he seems to me to have been very reticent to mess with the actual decisions of the “baseball people” in his employ so far. He seems to have mostly been the guy to decide on issues where money and long-term directions were the prime movers. Mayber Neuk has some go-to guy in the baseball operations not named Sabean?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I have a hard time seeing him say "play Cody Ross"
but I could see a litigation-type conference in which a lot of pointed questions are asked about Denny Bautista and Mota and the state of the bullpen, say.
Again, a total guess, based in part on the consistency of actions by Giants IT since Bochy signed on and the midseason shift.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"Oh no, he wanted me to do that. It was intentional." - Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It's really not clear
why Guillen was played instead of Ross…. although given that Guillen was picked up first, and he is so obvious a Brian Sabean pick up that this was predicted years in advance… I am not so sure that Fla-Giant’s “theory” of FO pressure wasn’t working in reverse here.
There was also the question of Ross’ missing power (I think he checked behind the sofa cushions in the locker room).
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I honestly think Neukom’s primary responsibility as Managing Partner (or whatever his title is) has been to scare the A’s away from San Jose. Or, rather, to scare major league baseball away from giving the A’s San Jose.
You don’t last that long as the lead counsel for Microsoft unless you really, really, really know what you’re doing.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t see Neukom having a hand in baseball decisions like that. I can only picture him doing weasely lawyerish things.
by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey!
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Who you calling weasely!?!
Lawyers always have your best interests at heart. Trust me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Stephen Revetria, VP and General Manager of Giants Enterprises?
I have no idea where this notion might be coming from, but Giants Enterprises is primarily responsible for renting out the ballpark for non-gameday events, like concerts and various corporate private parties. There’s absolutely no way he’s above Sabean in the org chart, they both oversee completely separate facets of the organization.
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GROUGTHINK ALERT
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Some ninny captioned a pic of Sabean as Stephen Revetria, assumedly because s/he saw some squiggles that resembled “General Manager” next to his name and was satisfied with his/her day’s work.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hold the phone
Let’s not forget that the only reason why Bengie wasn’t still starting 80% of the games at catcher in July and August (and in the playoffs) was that BS finally realized that the only way to get Buster behind the plate full time would be to get Bengie off the roster.
As you said in your first paragraph, we’ll probably never know. It holds true in your second paragraph as well. Surely you must conceed that there’s at least the possibility that Bochy was told to play Molina as the Giants were trying to deal him. It’s pretty hard to showcase a player while he’s on the bench.
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I don't get the whole "showcasing" thing
Bengie Molina was a pretty well known quantity – really, the only reason to showcase a guy (IMO) is to show he’s healthy after sustaining injury.
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by otis29 on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You stick a guy on the bench...
…you’ve told the whole world you think he’s worthless. Other than DFAing the guy, you can’t say “he sucks” any more loudly.
It’s like having a garage sale and putting price tags on things sitting in your garbage cans out at the curb. Do you really expect to get anything.
The hit they were taking by playing Molina wasn’t as dramatic as some make it out to be since Posey’s bat was in the lineup at 1B.
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If you think he stinks
And you put him on the field and he does indeed stink…how does that help you?
The hit they were taking by playing Molina wasn’t as dramatic as some make it out to be since Posey’s bat was in the lineup at 1B.
If Molina’s in the lineup, he’s going to be replacing someone’s bat – maybe not Posey’s, but most likely a better hitter.
I’m not vehemently disagreeing with you here, I just think you’re offbase on the “showcasing”. The league’s got a decade’s worth of data on Bengie Molina, and probably a hundred people that will gladly talk about his locker-room presence, game calling skills, etc.
Plus, I think “showcasing” is not something you’ll see much from a team that takes it’s chances to make the playoffs seriously. And with this pitching staff, I’d guess the Giants brass felt it was a playoff caliber team.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
The league’s got a decade’s worth of data on Bengie Molina, and probably a hundred people that will gladly talk about his locker-room presence, game calling skills, etc.
But baseball is full of old-school fogeys who’ll trust their own eyes more than any of that. If any of us McCoven end up managing a baseball team, then yeah, you’d be right. But I have no trouble believing in this whole showcasing thing, silly as it may be.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
With the Giants’ apparent love of the SSS, it stands to reason that they’d think everyone else thinks / acts the same way.
plus like
Molina totally hit a 3 run homer last night so we were dumb to trade him
bwahahahah
also Bochy > Ron Washington by a thousand
by PocketfullofPoseys on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't buy it
The more obvious answer to me is that Bochy (and Sabean) are believers in veteran gamer-ness, and were additionally worried about Buster’s ability to handle the staff.
Posey’s bat (and Molina’s) really forced their hand on this issue…no showcasing involved IMO.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Keep in mind...
SABEAN is an old-school baseball guy. Do we all remember the report that the Giants and the Mets were known throughout baseball to be two of the slowest adapting teams to new statistical analysis?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
But, presumably, they’ve been watching Bengie Molina with their eyes for a decade.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
this, and rec'd
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Goofus
Surely you must conceed that there’s at least the possibility that Bochy was told to play Molina as the Giants were trying to deal him. It’s pretty hard to showcase a player while he’s on the bench.
I might put some weight behind you’re theory if Bochy hadn’t sat Posey’s butt on the bench for 99% of the time in September of 2010, after BS had taken the chance and called him up early. Obviously, that was entirely on Bochy – he didn’t want to play Buster “in the heat of the playoff chase.”
Let’s also not forget that even after Bengie was traded, Bochy would not go on record as saying that Buster would be the full-time starter at C. Instead, he played Whiteside even more often than before the trade, in the first 2 weeks after the trade.
Finally, please remember how badly Bengie was playing in June when Posey was on the team. He was horrible both at the plate and behind the plate. Having Bengie play every day at catcher had to be seen as being harmful to his trade value by any knowledgable observer. The only thing that seeing Bengie play so often in June showed a potential suitor was that he wasn’t injured. No, the Rangers obviiously wanted Bengie despite his obvious reduced skills.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I disagree with that version of reality and substitute my own… I propose Buster’s playing time followed a plan the front office concocted:
He was brought up in September ‘09 specifically not to play. The feeling was that he was tired by September – he was there to absorb the atmosphere and get over any star struck awe he may have had at first. When he was brought up, they played him at first so he could worry more about learning the opposing pitchers than the Giants’ staff (the Giants really were hurting for offense at that point and it was his hitting that made it impossible to keep him down on the farm). Again, as a young, relatively inexperienced player, he was being given some room to grow before having the full responsibility of everyday catching thrust upon him. Once it became clear he wasn’t going to flail at the plate, Bengie became expendable and was traded. Over the next few weeks he was eased into the everyday job, with Greysides filling in the gaps.
I like that one better.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The possibility that Sabean is improving I find encouraging and scary. I think he made some terrible decisions last offseason, but with a little luck he seems to have bounced back from that. Not to get ahead of myself with rosterbation, but how Sabean does this offseason may do a lot to affect my opinion of him.
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m 99.99999% positive nobody in the org was fighting for Zito to be on the postseason roster. Not even Zito. And certainly not Bochy, who probably has a secret desire to actually win a World Series.
I imagine it was a bit like the Bobs going down the roster with Lumberg… “Then there’s Zito. He’s useless. GONE!” With Bobby Evans saying, “Works for me!”
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The problem with THIS particular argument
is that it assumes that SABEAN Is the smart one. That might be a flaw, even though I promised I would not say anything bad about Brian Sabean ever again if we win the World Series.
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I was ok with Ross at #8
Yeah yeah, I know you want to move your better hitters up in the lineup so that they get more at bats, but it seems quite often that the #8 hitter has done quite well for us. Consequently, any time we’ve moved them out of there, (see Nate Shcierholtz, ) the player has become less productive.
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Oct 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Opening day next year?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 20, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I won't be embarassed in front of the Taiwanese, damnit.
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by GiantPain on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Who Knew?
That GiantPain’s greatest moment would come in the form of brevity
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone have wood for sheep?
/catan
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by Skaldheim on Oct 20, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why trade when you can bandit?
/bandit on your #8, wood producing tile
**DingDing***
It’s our rookie season. No playoff experience.
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That's not true
It’s been weird here all along.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
Joe Mauer is from Minnesota. My adopted son, RHP Steve Edlefsen, is from Minnesota. Joe Mauer is very good at baseball. Call up Steve Edlefsen, Giants! Science™ is begging you.
the turning point
was the game against the Dodgers where Mattingly made “two” visits to the mound and Bochy called him on it. That’s when I started to think, “Bochy, that sly fox” instead of “Bochy, you moron!”
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
GIS result for "Bruce Bochy sly fox"

So that’s gotta count for something, right?
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I tend to believe this is all just an extension of the First Ten At-Bats Principle. Posey, Burrell, Torres, Bumgarner, et al, didn’t embarrass themselves in their first ten at-bats/innings when given a chance to really play, so Bochy believed they were okay dudes, and it’s worked out since.
If Posey went 0-21 to start his season, would Bengie have been traded?
by David A. Arnott on Oct 20, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
He would have played Burrell because he’s a gritty gamer who’s “been there before” and is a veteran. Torres went something like 0-15 or something when he started but there really was no one else that could play CF adequately when Scott got hurt. Bumgarner had good success last year for the short time he was up. Also there was really no one else because I think Yeah Joey got sent down and WelLOLemeyer was hurt and don’t forget that Posey was playing 1B while Bengie was here. It wasn’t like Bengie was immediately traded after Buster came up. He was still here for a full month or so before he was traded, The fact that the way Bengie just looked terrible behind the plate and how Bochy would still continue playing him I think led Sabean to make the decision to trade. I’d like to think he knew he made a mistake and tried to correct it. Also doing what the Padres did to Bochy when they took away Castilla.
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
by sanfrankid on Oct 20, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arnott has checked in
Now where’s Peter Bean to complete the blogfathers circle.
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This theory bugs me
Only because it discounts every other bit of information that Bochy has at his disposal. Bochy, his coaches and all the minor league coaches have a wealth of info based on BPs, STs and minor league games.
Everyone’s favorite example seems to be Bowker, so let’s use him as a hypothetical example:
Let’s say “the word” on Bowker from the minor league coaches up was he destroys sub-standard pitching, but can’t hit the pitchers with big-league breaking balls…if Bam Bam works on the side with him and reports back to Bochy that “it ain’t getting better”…if Bochy watched countless BP sessions before games and in ST, how much of chance should he really be expected to give him?
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 20, 2010 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
Vanquish the foe forthwith!
Onward to eventual triumph!
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Everybody’s borking for the weekend.
This made my morning.
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Heh
I guess my morning could use a few more virtual synthesizers.
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by achiappanza on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m relatively new to this site, so I haven no idea if this was discussed here back in 06/07, but signing Bochy had to be one of Sabean’s dumbest moves. There was absolutely no logic behind the signing. As Grant outlined in this post, Bochy can be a good manager under the right circumstances, but when given a team that should be rebuilding and lacks an offensive identity (such as the 07, 08 Giants), Bochy is absolutely clueless. Seriously, I cannot think of one reason why Bochy made sense as a manager back in 07.
All that being said, Bochy has been pulling all the right strings over the past month or so and he definitely deserves credit for that. But still, I cannot possibly understand what the rationale behind signing Bochy was back in 06
How about in the previous two seasons, his teams made the post season, far surpassing most people's expectations?
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Maybe I’m not remembering correctly, but weren’t the giants a pretty talentless team back in 07? The way I remember it, they really had no shot at making the playoffs and were in desperate need of going into a rebuilding phase, and Bochy isn’t really the right manager for that job
They had Bonds, Cain, and Lincecum. They still hadn’t decided that Sanchez should be a starter. Randy Winn was doing okay.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Oh, and Ryan Klesko had a good first half.
I think that was it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
How would you feel about a first baseman who hit .295/.385/.477?
Seems okay to me.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Oh, no, that’s not where my mind went at the mention of Ryan Klesko.
You’d have to have been on Nifty.org circa 1995 to understand.
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oh god
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My job is done for the thread
See you in the GDT.
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Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I’ll admit, Bochy has been incredibly unterrible in the postseason thus far. Letting Lopez pitch the entire 8th inning yesterday—including one RHH—was an unexpected and wonderful piece of managaing.
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Go Bork
Well he’s no Bobby Cox, who seemed to change pitchers for every batter at crunch time.
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by achiappanza on Oct 20, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
well, except when he did. Game 2 of NLCS, and he should have in the loss to the Braves.
by 24 Willie Mays Plaza on Oct 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
worst part is
Bobby warms up the pen when he doesn’t need to, yet never has guys ready when the four-pitch walks start coming…
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by Anthony Pace on Oct 20, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
*Bobby warmed up
/fistpump
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by Anthony Pace on Oct 20, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That was great
It should be noted that Lopez faced better hitters than wheezy – and he didn’t even give up a hit.
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Agree with this
I tend to be more anti-Sabean and pretty “meh” on Bochy. But he’s pushing the right buttons at the right times, plus I’m enjoying the hell out of his interviews the last few months – I think his personality is shining through a bit more as his team’s encountered success. I can see why his players like him so damn much.
He’s Charlie Manuel with a bit more mental firepower, IMO.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Check out the Krukow interview this morning on KNBR
I really liked what Kruk had to say about Bochy, particularly regarding Rowand and Zito.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
This is why I thought the to-do about Manuel splitting up Utley and Howard (with Placido Polanco?!?!) was overblown. Is anyone afraid of Placido Polanco??? Had he put Werth in there, then yes, you would give Bochy pause before letting Lopez pitch to him. But not Placido Fucking Polanco.
Thing C
this this this
If Lopez can’t get Polanco out, maybe he isn’t as good as he’s looked so far.
If Wilson pitches to lefties, and he does a lot, why can’t Lopez?
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by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
So in agreement
When I saw that Manuel had flipped Utley and Howard, I thought it was pretty dumb. Now I think it’s really dumb. I also think that Javier Lopez is pretty neat.
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agreed with that
1 and 3 were pretty nicely done.
Although that also adds up to not so many double-switchy bunt with two out etc. “managing”. He who manages best manages least, maybe.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
But I think having a 3-run lead had a lot to do with it. Had it been a 1-run game, I wonder if he would have let Lopez pitch to Polanco. I think he might well have gone to Casilla and then Affeldt, or even gone to Wilson for the 5-out save again.
In any case, hooray for 3-run leads!
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by EliminateMe on Oct 20, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this 100%
I believe the situation (3-run) lead dictated that move. Any lesser of a lead, I think he plays the matchups as Eliminate Me states.
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I, for one, didn’t know that the plural of “Lewis” is “Lewii.” Thanks to you, I learned something new today.
Also, I share your sentiment that all managers are awful. There are a few who seem to rise slightly above the rest, but yeah, they’re all awful.
Bochy was at his worst last year, and he continued that trend into this year. But somewhere along the lines, he climbed above a couple of the other awful managers to stand in that elite group of less awful managers. Molina was (finally!) traded away, he started Torres over Rowand even after Rowand was available, kept Renteria on the bench for the most part, and the gritty, gamer veterans he did play – Huff, Burrell, Franchez – actually contributed. He had a bit of a regression with Guillen, but he recovered by leaving him off the roster.
Bochy may never get over his veteran love, but as both you and GiantPain point out, if you don’t feed this veteran addiction, Bochy comes out looking better than a lot of managers.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 AM PDT reply actions
Also, I should point out, that one of Bochy’s best qualities is how good he is at managing a bullpen. He’s definitely had some hiccups now and then, but for the majority of times, he does a really good job in this department. And for a team built around pitching, this is important.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
or much else
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by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
What I said shouldn’t be taken as taking away from Righetti. I just meant Bochy does a good job with match-ups, doesn’t overuse pitchers, etc. I think Righetti’s role is more important in terms of things like mechanics and development.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
pitching staff
Whether it’s Bochy, Righetti, the trainers, or some combination, the Giants have done a wonderful job the last couple of years keeping their pitchers healthy and effective. Every time I get angry at Bochy for ordering an intentional walk to load the bases, I have to remind myself what’s really important for this team.
Bochy has a pretty good track record with bullpens and bullpen arms, though, which is why I give him credit.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
My productivity today is done
I just downloaded a new screensaver and will be staring at it until 4, then I go home and watch the Giants.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Yeah, but have you seen her fill out a tax return or make a sandwich? Hideous.
by Every6thDay on Oct 20, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d gladly handle those myself.
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This has been the biggest surprise of the playoffs for me (other than the Giants winning so many games), I never expected myself to agree with almost all the moves that Bochy has made. But aside from a few pretty minor things (the half-inning of Fontenot in one of the NLDS games, bringing in Ramirez in game 2 of the NLCS), he’s made a lot of smart decisions. It feels strange typing that, since I’ve been so anti-Bochy for almost his entire tenure with SF.
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he's still celebrating
Renteria’s single and run scored.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
..

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by jctGamer on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
He's not here just now, but I am.
Mr. O hasn’t been feeling well for quite some time and is still abed. But if you want my opinion (yeah, that’s likely), Bochy’s been making the obvious choices, nothing esoteric or difficult about it. And yes, we were mighty pleased to see Rent get that hit and run scored and his teammates were plainly psyched for him after the game. Nice to hear some of the guys talking about how he helps out in the clubhouse and even on the bench. He might be fragile these days, but that doesn’t mean he’s not contributing.
by mrs. owlcroft on Oct 20, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Best wishes to Mr. Owlcroft
Get well soon.
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Hope Mr. Owlcroft feels better soon.
And I think, actually, making those obvious choices is part of what makes someone a good manager. The bad ones are the ones who make really stupid, inexplicable decisions.
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My goodness.
My heartfelt thanks. I have now formally moved over from being pre-diabetic to being actually diabetic. Fortunately (in a sense), since I’m a vegetarian, the life-style shifts aren’t too drastic, and are in fact what I’ve known for some time I should be doing: stop eating so bloody much, and stop drinking so bloody much. I’m about 40 pounds over my ideal weight, and about 30 pounds over what I was only a year or two ago. Thank heaven my liver still seems fine, but the bourbon and brandy after the wine was not helping with the weight. Whether getting back to a sound weight will move me back, I don’t know, but I can hope.
As to Bochy: as I said the other day, there’s an old saying that a good manager cannot do much to help his team, but a bad one can do a lot to hurt it. Also, as someone noted a while ago, the pool of potential managers is still very homogeneous, and there’s not typically an awful lot of differences in outlook and philosophy. Still, some are worse than others, and I myself reckon Bochy in that lot. Scarcely a game goes by that Bochy doesn’t make at least a few of what I for one consider nontrivial mistakes. I mainly think that lately it’s simply a matter of the dice having coming up for him even on bad bets, and that’s why he doesn’t look as stupid as he mostly does; but I don’t think he has had a brain transplant recently, and is thus still the same old Bochy as ever. For example, when a manager has a reputation for staying away from the sac bunt, it’s hard to see why when the team ranks third in the league in sacs; sure, many of those may be pitchers, but that’s true of other teams, too.
All told, I’d prefer a reasonably bright batboy over Bochy; but I think we can all now rest assured that he and Sabean will be there for the next decade, considering this season, so it’s moot.
Nonetheless, for the record,
Sabean delenda est!
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so what you're saying is
being a vegetarian is a waste of time, so long as you’re not a fat drunken old man.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Not exactly.
It avoids (as Bernard Shaw so colorfully put it) making a cemetery of your stomach. I am a vegetarian out of ethical concerns; the health part is just a bonus. Nor—for better or for worse—am I drunken: the hooch is always spread out over a long evening. But fat I have become, and the worst kind: all concentrated in one zone. It looks a lot better, not like the Pillsbury doughboy; but it’s much less healthy, for reasons not yet fully understood. (Best guess is that it mechanically stresses the internal organs behind the abdominal wall.) I used to be able to lose 1½ to 2 pounds a week steadily when I could manage some will power; I don’t know if my basal metabolism will still work that way, but I’ll find out. Getting back on the exercycle will help, too.
Meanwhile, I continue to do the exercises for my reverse tennis elbow in the right arm, and nurse the left shoulder when the calcium deposits peak in their periodic coming and going. And the icepick headaches are well controlled by the medication. Growing old: no fun, but it beats the alternative.
Sabean delenda est!
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There's an old Chinese saying :
Always respect the elder, for not everyone have the privilege to become old.
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Diabetes is no fun at all
I wish you the very best of health, mr. owlcroft. Get back on the exermurder machine and drop that paunch, yes?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Interesting side of effect of losing a lot of weight.
Quite often it makes your gall bladder go poof. $14,000 go poof too.
Not on Medicare.
But I’ll look that issue up.
Sabean delenda est!
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Sad but true.
Sabean delenda est!
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Wherever I May Roam
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Seek And Destroy
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Get well soon, Mr. O!
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 20, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope Mr. O feels better soon.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I've turned the corner on Bochy
To the point where when someone criticizes a Bochy move, I defend him. I never thought that would happen.
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"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I never thought I'd cheer for Aaron Rowand
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I never thought I’d get herpes.
Oh…wrong subthread.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s starting to amaze me how his every hairbrained move has somehow worked out to perfection. Even the gut-check Nate substitution!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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I still don’t get pulling Burrell out of every damn game in the 6th inning. Does anyone have any insight to the logic behind this move?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Defense. And also, if Burrell isn’t expected to bat again (which is often the case in the late innings), there’s no sense keeping him in the outfield. And also, potential double switch.
I haven’t had a problem with Burrell coming out in the late innings. It seems to work out okay.
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by can of corn on Oct 20, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
sometimes it is a pinch runner, and that can definitely be justified.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Yeah, if you’re replacing him once he’s reached base, you add quite a bit of value to the move. Also, it makes more sense on the road than at home, since you’re getting an extra half-inning of defense out of the replacement.
But overall I doubt Bochy breaks even on the defensive subs, especially when you consider how they shortens the bench.
I’m kind of meh on the whole proposition. I can see the logic and I understand most of the counter-arguments. However, as to Nate’s value as a pinch-hitter, this team already has a designated left-handed switch-hitter in Travis. That’s his only job. It doesn’t make much sense to save Nate so he can do someone else’s job.
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What?
left-handed switch-hitter in Travis.
Travis is not a switch hitter. And if we were gonna chose between the two, Nate should probably be there over Travis.
I like Travis, but Nate plays better defense, at a more difficult position, and is faster.
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IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I think of it as shifting the game to a lower run environment by making both your offense and the other team’s worse. That’s a good idea if you’re in the lead (assuming the effect is reasonably close to symmetric).
But it’s not reasonably close to symmetric, which is why Burrell’s bat has been worth 2.5+ wins and Schierholtz’s glove has been worth approx 0.5 wins (with Burrell only having slightly more playing time).
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 20, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me
Jose Guillen’s neck injury helped free Cody Ross
Not only did Guillen not travel to Atlanta or Philadelphia, he didn’t even travel to Willie Mays Plaza yesterday. De Rosa was there, Zito was there… no Guillen.
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I am more than OK with that..
I am overjoyed by that. One grand slam does not make a Giant.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Its supposed to be
One grand slam does not a Giant make.
He gone.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So we can all agree. Jose Guillen never existed.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
:sends Guillen through the “Darryl Strawberry” exit:
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
irrational speculation
This whole thing strongly suggests to me that they had a conversation about Ross or somebody making the starts in RF, and him “sitting on his ass watching a ballgame for 6 innings” as Earl Weaver might say, and there was no agreement to be had, or he just packed up and bailed.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 20, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I think in an interview a day or two again, Sabean admitted that he didn’t know if Guillen was in Miami or SF or the DR.
If your boss doesn’t know where you are during a playoff series, it probably means he doesn’t really care.
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by can of corn on Oct 20, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I spent 21 hours yesterday in a hospital waiting on surgery
So I just wanted to finally come on here and say thank you Matt Cain, I love you, and slap fives with anyone willing. I was lucky enough that someone turned on the game in the waiting room so I was able to get a little enjoyment yesterday. And yes, I agree with this post, but now we all know how doomed we are from the optimism. Anyways, go Giants
Everything fine?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
everything went pretty good, thanks
6 month old godson had his second heart surgery
by Artimus Clyde on Oct 20, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Oof
Good luck to him.
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"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Oh, man. I have an almost-four month old son, I couldn’t imagine what a mess I’d be if he had to have one heart surgery procedure now, let alone two. That’s scary stuff.
Hope the gritty gamer gets well soon.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
yeah, its been really tough
Practically a son to me, but he’s done really well and I’m confident he’ll recover really soon. And he’s a Giants fan so hopefully when he’s out he’ll have something to celebrate
by Artimus Clyde on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Amen to that
Now, if you excuse me, I got something in my eye…
by AGiantAmongMarlins on Oct 20, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Best wishes and positive thoughts for the little guy
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Seriously, this.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Oh, wow. Best wishes to him and his family and I hope he has a speedy recovery.
I'm still in the old thread.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to all of you
I really appreciate it
by Artimus Clyde on Oct 20, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn – best of luck.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Best wishes!
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Wow, I hope it all turns out for the best for the little fella.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So...Since you've been in the hospital, the Giants have won.
You need to do everything in your power to make sure you’re there all day today and tomorrow.
Cy Lincecain FTW
OT: My mom just asked me if they're selling beards at the park
Apparently she wants to buy one. Anyone know?
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
Taken completely out of context, that’s one of the weirder subject lines in internet comment history.
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by Kitspool on Oct 20, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, however, it wasn’t much better in context. I about fell out of my chair when she called and asked me this. I didn’t even know my mom knew about “fear the beard”
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Much less that she’d want to pay money to wear one. The post season does weird things to people.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t notice any inside the park (though I wasn’t looking) but I bet the dudes on the corners along King street are.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
I probably don’t want my mom interacting with the dudes on King Street. That could get really weird really fast.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, you don’t want to go to one of those shady back-alley beard vendors.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Happy Donut!
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
saw a vendor selling them in 103 yesterday
kinda looks like strapping a tire to your chin.
I’m guesssing your mom could rock it though.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dugout had Lincoln beards they were selling – guess not enough time for marketing department to GET ON THAT.
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by The Enchanter on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I also saw them in a souvenir stand right outside the front gate. They kinda looked like a mousepad but are worn on your face to look like a beard.
No idea the cost.
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exactly like a mousepad. I saw a beatiful girl wearing one. Except she was no longer beautiful…kind of horrific actually.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Your mom asks everybody that.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was sent a picture of some in the Dugout store. So I think so?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Wilson with an orange beard would be something!!
would he be fined?
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Can someone email this idea to Wilson?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Baggerly?
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Get on it, Baggs!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Dear Andy Baggs
We know you’re trolling here, because you write about it sometimes. Please let Brian Wilson know that we have all voted and kindly request that he die his beard bright orange.
That is all.
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by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I have not voted to request Brian Wilson die.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
Sorry
*dye
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by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he is a ninja.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
To be fair
Baggs isn’t really a troll, he’s more of a lurker.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
If Baggs ever gets around to reading this he’s going to be very insulted.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
BURN!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Didn’t Uribe say he’d dye his beard orange if the Giants made the playoffs? Haven’t seen it happen yet.
I'd like to see an orange dye party
All facial hair and those who still have a full head of hair should dye their hair orange, that means you too Bochy. Also, Kruk and Kuip too.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk could totally rock an orange goatee.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribe’s beard and hair (mohawk?) were dyed orange earlier in the season. To be fair, though, it looked more like he tried to bleach it and it it just turned out kind of orange.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
He definitely tried to pretend it was orange on purpose, though.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Intentional or not, his hair was hideous.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
It was the cherry on top of an already ugly cake.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Ugly cake is better than ugly pie
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Sounds like Mrs. jhiat00 complaining about people who come in with black hair and want to leave with blond.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
I’m on her side on this. A lot of times when people die their hair (as opposed to just highlighting, which is different) it’s too drastic and they look like hot messes.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Kill the hair! Yes
Also when they dye their hair. Either way, the hair is being lethally treated.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Dammit!
I’m a little distracted right now. Stupid trolls.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah and she has to politely explain it to many clients. Some people insist but she refuses because it will make her look bad.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
I always feel bad for hairdressers when this happens. There’s no nice way to tell someone, “Uh, that’s going to make you look terrible”
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
actually,
my guess is his beard actually grows in orangish red (like mine even though I have brown hair), and he dyed it black as a joke, because of the whole “getting fined for wearing orange shoes” thing
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Oct 20, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Far and away the most important thing a manager can do is put the right players on the field. Right now he’s doing just fine at that, but for long stretches of the season he was abysmal. I can’t help but think that he’s just getting lucky at the right time.
Bochy also does a lot of little things (defensive replacements, hit-and-runs, pitching changes) that hurt the team a tiny bit, but as much as they drive me crazy, I’ve come to accept that it really is just a tiny bit. They’re marginal calls.
I think there was a clear turning point for Bochy
Up until that Mattingly game, Bochy was doing stupid shit. Playing Velez, platooning Torres/Rowand, etc. Then that game happened. And suddenly we are in the NLCS.
QED
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
I'm pretty sure platooning Rowand/Torres was long over by the time the Mattingly game happened
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
oh yeah

Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
OT: Thank you, Jim Caple
And forget the ratings. I’m tired of hearing about ratings justifying New York’s World Series appearances. World Series ratings have been dropping over the past 15 years even with all the Yankees series. Ratings might actually rise if fans didn’t have to sit through four-hour games that drag on past midnight because Yankees hitters step out to get more network face time between every pitch and Jorge Posada walks to the mound to personally deliver the sign for every fastball and cutter.
Besides, who cares whether the network bigwigs who give us “American Idol” won’t be happy? The rest of us will welcome a fresh new team.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
by Kitspool on Oct 20, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Thank God.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Phew.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Major points for Jim Caple. What article does he say that in?
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
by deuce deuce on Oct 20, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=caple_jim&id=5705979
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I like Jim Caple
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Butt pee.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks for getting me in trouble at work. people are now wondering why i’m cackling at my spreadsheets. nerds
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Glee
is what I will feel if the Giants win the Serious.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Yeah, really
Unless you’re one of the very small group making money off of it, why on earth would any fan care about the ratings? What is the consequence to the average person? Everyone involved is going to make tons of money, and just because it’s not quite as much money as they’d like, is no reason for people to hope for certain teams to win.
by Seasick fish on Oct 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Well there is one obvious concern for the average fan: if ratings continue to tank, maybe in the next contract MLB will be forced to show its playoff games on a broadcast network that’s clearly disinterested in baseball, and a cable network that hires doddering play-by-play guys who should have been put out to pasture years ago.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Imagine the dark day when the chosen Yankees are forced to play a crucial playoff game on a weekday afternoon on a cable network that can’t draw any sponsors bigger than avocado farmers. It’s a future too terrifying to imagine.
by Seasick fish on Oct 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope you have a parachute.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Not chasm'd.
Buck & McCarver = Doddering play-by-play [and color] guys who should have been put out to pasture years ago.
Yes, but because you asked the question, it seemed as though you didn’t realize that THAT WAS THE JO.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I was afraid
That I was somehow double chasm’d. Instead, I was forced to explain my joke. Damn.
old yellered
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
UNinterested
“Disinterested” means not biased; “uninterested” means having no interest in. Fox is fairly clearly not disinterested, though relatively uninterested.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Let’s hope eventually the national broadcasts get picked up by AMC.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
/close-up camera shot on John Slattery in crowd, wearing a suit and smoking a cigarette
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
/close up of Jon Hamm and some random woman in a luxury suite, smoking cigarettes in an obvious post-coital glow
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
/close up of January Jones, being a bitch
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 20, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey
What’s wrong with American Idol?
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Amen, brother!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Dude...
He’s really really bad. It seems Grant’s only argument is he doesn’t throw out blatantly obvious good decisions.
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
by milesntrane on Oct 20, 2010 11:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
That’s more than we can say about a lot of managers…
by bipolarbear on Oct 20, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
All I know is that I'm buying Cody Ross some liquor and an energy drink after we win the World Series

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by Tommy Wiseau is a Giants Fan on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
/clicks subject line
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew I wasn't the only one to make this comparison. Dudes could be twins
“WHAT THE EFFIN’ FUCK?!!”
"Fuck yeah, shut up." - Tim Lincecum
I don’t see it. Other than the hairline.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I would just like to point out that I noticed the resemblance back on August 23.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/8/23/1638781/gamethread-2#45066468
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Matt Cain on the Jim Rome Show right now
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Oct 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
Totally unnecessary!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 20, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Part of me is scared for tonight...
Blanton’s been pitching alright, Bums is bad at home, and I have no idea what the lineup is going to be tonight…
I hope it's something like...
Torres
Sanchez
Posey
Burrell
Ross
Huff
Uribe
Sandoval
Bums
by bipolarbear on Oct 20, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Torres sits, Renteria starts
Just heard on KNBR.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Renteria
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
Burrell
Ross
Sandoval
Rowand
Bumgarner
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Sorry... LINEUP is the subject line
Renteria
Sanchez
Huff
Posey
Burrell
Ross
Sandoval
Rowand
Bumgarner
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
I’m strangely okay with this lineup. I wish it had Torres instead of Rowand, but everyone knew that Bochy would stick with Aaron.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I announced this lineup last night
IT’S TRUE.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
LOL, I love A-Rod's reaction

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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I think he’s checking to make sure he wiped properly.
by Every6thDay on Oct 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought Jeter did that for him (contractual obligation).
by KrazyKrabMeat on Oct 20, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
the Burnett reaction is also priceless
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Oh No, Mommy Is Gonna Be Pissed :(

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Best part is, he doesn’t even turn around to make sure it’s fair. It’s just . . . over.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Bengie gets that reaction a lot, but it’s not often he gets it from the opposing team.
It’s been a lot of fun watching him have success in the postseason.
by Seasick fish on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Guess What guys
My photobucket bandwidth reset today!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Heh
Matt Cain’s best man at his wedding convinced Matt Cain to appear on the Jim Rome Show.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Loverboy?
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 20, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
After seeing Lea Michele in the new GQ
Yes, please.
I gotta say, I’m more worried about this game than I have been the last 3. I can’t shake the feeling that Blanton is going to pitch a complete game CG on 88 pitches.
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
That outcome has been guaranteed since the start of the series. It’s not an expectation at this point but an absolute certainty.
by Every6thDay on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much. I’m more scared of Blanton than I am any other pitcher in the Phillies rotation.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure it's so much Blanton for me
As it’s the obviousness of the importance of tonight’s game. There’s still doubt in my head that the Giants can actually pull this off, therefore I have huge doubts about them winning tonight.
Screw that though, MadBum’s gonna tear it up and the offense is going to bust out.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Oh no! Anything but a complete game CG!
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
DAMMIT
Wow, I must be tired. You know what I mean!
"I wouldn't say the beard got us here, but I wore it here." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Oct 20, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't worry
The Giants have some sort of voodoo magic working right now.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
richardjustice Richard Justice
Cody Ross is first major leaguer with four game-winning RBIs in his first seven postseason games since World Series began in 1903.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
the reverse psychology is getting too hard
Before game 1 I told my wife we might go out in 4. Then before game 2, it was lookout bad guys. Yesterday, we’ll never hit again. Now today, I figured out how to synch up MLB.com for Kruk with the TV, and it’s mainly now speculation on how bad the idiots will look when the Rangers win tonight and we put ‘em away with Timmy, and then everybody sits for a week and a half. And how unfair that will be since Cody will cool down.
So I think possibly the only remedy is for the Yanks to spank ’em and GOOD, then we’ll be worried about Mad, which then means he can win and we can try and conjure up something negative about Timmy for tomorrow.
I’m also kind of bummed about how empty it’s going to feel the day after the parade. HELP!
I suck at Photoshop, but here you go, Steve Jobs introducing Mac OS X 10.7

Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
by DJ Tofu on Oct 20, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I worry about Bumgarner in this next start
He gives up a lot of home runs it seems and has struggled at home.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Matt Cain's interview on the Jim Rome Show
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Just curious...
what do the “non-outta town dorks” call it? Home obviously. But I was ridiculed for calling it Frisco and I’m from there but currently live down south.
“San Francisco”
or
“The City”
“Frisco” is okay for rappers. Not for anyone else, though bonus points to any who can actually shoehorn “San Francisco” into a lyric.
“San Fran” gets you kicked in the shin.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear that the local Hell’s Angels call it Frisco. I think I hear that from delorean.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I’m not gonna tell them no.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically if you are a badass...
…and a local, it’s ok.
You can read it on their rockers. They’ve had Frisco on there for decades.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Tony Bennett
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Agree 100%
People don’t often get the Frisco ok for rappers angle. San Fran is way worse than Frisco.
There are mixed feelings about Frisco. Frankly, in my opinion, it’s a city in Texas. Because it is. A city in Texas. Not California.
I don’t see what’s wrong with San Fran. I usually just call it The City.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Howie’s back!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Oct 20, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
For a short while, since I’m in San Rafael today packing some stuff. Hopefully I have internet in Fairfield by the weekend, but if my experience with AT&T up to this point has anything to say about it, I won’t ever have internet in Fairfield.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
“Great, we’ll just put you down for an Internet/Home Phone/Television bundle. See you in a week.”
“Well, I don’t know what the last person said, but we just have you for TV. Sure, we can add the Home Phone and Internet, but the activation will be another week.”
“Well, I don’t know what the last person said, but your activation isn’t scheduled for another two and a half weeks. You can call this number to reschedule it for earlier.”
“Well, I don’t know what that last person said, but we definitely can’t activate it any earlier than this day. You’ll need to be there to welcome the technician.”
“Well, I don’t know why you were signed up for the most expensive television package when you asked for the least expensive and in fact never talked to anybody about the most expensive. You should have had an e-mail confirmation that stated the package you were getting. We can’t do anything about it now. Sorry.”
“Well, that’s weird that your confirmation e-mails had no information whatsoever on the package that you were signed up for. That’s not our fault, apparently, so we can’t do anything about it.”
“Well, I don’t know what the last person told you, but you definitely don’t need to be their for the phone/internet activation.”
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Me:
“Gee, I hope I get Internet one day….”
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Those typos must have been what they actually said. They certainly weren’t my fault.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
According to AT&T, my name is “Alex Luis”. Considering that I filled out a form and paid with a card in order to start up my account, I find it a little amazing that they could have made this error. Where and how did it happen?
Dealing with AT&T is life’s primary strain on my civility.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I don’t really see anything wrong with San Fran, either.
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 20, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohhhh, ooo-ohhh, oh oo oh
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
Frisco, Colorado!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I have only been out to San Francisco once to see games and had no idea about the Frisco or San Fran thing. Back home in MS I ran into a girl here from SF and I said Frisco while we talking about the Giants and she threw a nasty fit. I told her to kill herself and do the world a favor. News flash to those of you from San Francisco, no one in the rest of the country knows or cares about your rules.
Please let us know where you are from and we will happily make fun of it. Undoubtedly with more wit than you were able to muster.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So…from Halloweenville? how hokey. SICKBURN!
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So… why are you on a San Francisco message board telling San Franciscans how much you don’t care about the things that us San Franciscans were having a perfectly good time discussing without you? Because that sounds a lot like caring.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I love your city. I love your team. I just think it is petty to be so defensive when people from other regions have no idea to your rules about how to refer to “The City”
Would it be petty if we told you to go kill yourself and do the world a favor?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Or would that be defensive?
Just want to understand the rules here.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Yeah, that would be pretty dumb
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
You realize that this is a bunch of goobers on a message board shooting the shit, right? If you know San Francisco well enough to love it, then you’d know that we don’t actually throw frozen boxes of Rice-A-Roni at people who say “San Fran.” In fact, we’ll probably say nothing at all.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
She was not nice about it all when she corrected me, to the point where I was very rude in my response.
I’ll be sure to keep you in mind if I ever run into someone from MS that I don’t like.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Multiple Sclerosis
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
then you’d know that we don’t actually throw frozen boxes of Rice-A-Roni at people who say "San Fran." In fact, we’ll probably say nothing at all.
Imagine the one-liner possibilities!
“The Frisco treat bitch!”
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
I have only been to your city once, to see a Giants LOLodgers series. I stayed on Geary and had a blast. Other than that my only insight to SF is my 162 day/nights I get to see the Giants games with Kruk and Kuip.
I stayed on Geary and had a blast.
Ah, you must have stayed at the downtown end of Geary.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Hey, there’s plenty of shit to do in the Richmond. Trad’r Sam alone can take up an entire weekend (whether that was the plan or not).
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Shhhhh…the tourists might be listening.
/lives in the Richmond
They could be Giants...but not really.
:)
Dude, the Richmond is so far out there, Christina Hendricks could be serving free Anchor Steam and no one would show up. And I say this with love; I grew up at 25th & Anza. :)
BTW, if you haven’t eaten at Tee Off, DO IT. Yes, really.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Pfft
Anything east of Sunset is too crowded for me.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
WEST BAY BIAS
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LETHAL RIPTIDES FTW
Bay schmay, I’m a Pacific Ocean lover.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
The Riptide isn't so bad
so long as you interrupt the 2 lesser healing waves that follows.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
i thought for a second you were talking about the bar in the Sunset
And then I realized you were talking about WoW, and that I knew you were talking about WoW, and I was sad.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you mean Potrero Hill, or the part of the Sunset with all the grow rooms?
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The whores were what surprised me most living in the Sunset this summer. I was not expecting the whores.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I think that’s kind of the idea. The Richmond, and even moreso the Sunset, are nothing but older white people and quiet AZNs with pink bags, so who would ever think to look for meth labs/brothels/gun runners there?
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I have always been suspicious of the Russians!!
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PEASANT PIES FOR THE WIN!!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
hah nice
Lived on 18th and Anza until I was 9 or so. I have many happy memories of playing catch at Argonne Playground. Went there on a date with another Richmond native a few years ago, and there were some highschool kids obviously selling drugs.
Kicked me right in the childhood.
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Should have just strangled her on the spot.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Even Eddie Izzard knows about this.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
...and Oakland is a collection of houses.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll try and remember that as we fly over your state on the way to somewhere interesting.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I have relatives that live in SF, and my dad grew up there, but I still say San Fran for short when I refer to the city. I live in Fresno now, so referring it to “the city” would be confusing to anybody else. My sister who goes to Sonoma State recently told me they call it “the city,” so Im new to all the proper nicknames.
Bochy
His team’s have made the post-season 3 of the last 6 seasons. Each time, doing so exceeded nearly everyone’s expectations. Even the 88 games the team won last year was a pleasant surprise.
Some of his decisions are certainly questionable (I still don’t know why Buster didn’t get more PT after the call up last season), but he has a track record of getting a lot out of his teams. His players respect him and he seems to respect his players. It’s now to the point where you’ve got players like Huff calling him the best manager in baseball and Cody Ross telling other players that this is the place to be.
Personally, I’m glad he’s the Giants’ manager.
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This is the camp in which I reside. The players love him and are producing. Science.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
only if the rally thongs are flame-retardant!
/safety first
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
koom by fuckin yah
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
yin/ yang
joe girardi made the comment that, if he ha taken burnett out last night before the bengie ab, an a reliever gor rocked, he would have been criticized for that too. in many ways managers get criticized because there are so many people on both sides of a decision that are so ready to say “i told you so!” so, if rowand and rentrria had o’fers last night, which bochy had no control over, how many of us would be pissed at him? for the sake of argument, i would say quite a few…
the thung that will always stick in my proverbial craw, however, is his decisions ala the pinch running for posey with whiteside. that never made a lick of sense, and taking your best hitter out of the lineup for someone who can barely hit and is only .1 mph faster is just nonsense. thats what i dont like about bochy…
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fingers coverd in doughnut trappings, forgiveness on the typos please
by Headhunter Rollins on Oct 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The mistake was intentionally walking the go ahead run on base.
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/10/20/a-good-intentional-walk-day/
Murphy — runner on second, two outs.
• 65% of the time he will make an out (0 runs).
• 16% of the time he single (81 runs over 500 PAs).
• 5% of the time he will double (26 runs).
• Less than 1% of the time he will triple (2 runs).
• 3% of the time he will homer (30 runs).
• About 10% of the time he will walk or get hit by pitch (0 runs but extends the inning).
That’s a total of 139 runs. The inning continues 35% of the time.
Molina — runner on first and second, two outs.
• 71% of the time he will make an out (0 runs).
• 17% of the time he will single (85 runs).
• 4% of the time he will double (20 certain runs, add however many runs you get from Murphy scoring from first … I added 7 runs. So that’s 27).
• Less than 1% of the time he will triple (how Bengie Molina hit two triples the last two years I’ll never know — add 2 runs).
• 2.5% of the time he will homer (39 runs).
• About 5% of the time he will walk or get hit by pitch (0 runs but extends the inning).
That’s a total of 153 runs. The inning continues 29% of the time.
So there’s your tradeoff. Are you willing to increase your chances of giving up ZERO runs by five or six percent by also increasing your chances of giving up MORE runs? I honestly do not see why you would be. Not in this situation.
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Seriously
Is it really reasonable to expect a manager to weigh all this and do all these calculations in the approximately 30 seconds he has to make the decision?
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No, but it is reasonable to expect a manager
to at least know that intentionally walking the go ahead run on base in the sixth inning is almost NEVER a good idea.
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if they had a stats guy, the guy could have prepared this during the previous at-bat. Of course the guy wouldn’t have known what would happen eventually in the previous at-bat, but he could have looked up all the scenarios that could have happened in that at-bat, in the 3 or 4 minutes that it took, and then give the manager this info as soon as the at-bat concluded. Probably not too hard if they had everything automated.
That said, whether the manager wants to look at this is another matter.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
But even if they do have all that info
…I still think a manager has to use current info like “This guy’s getting tired, his fastball is missing high” or “this guy has been behind on everything, I think we can get him”
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Managers are going to get criticized regardless. People are mad when things don’t go right, and they blame the manager. Oh well, nothing the manager can do about it. You know what the manager CAN do? Play the odds right. Even if only a few knowledgeable fans out there know he’s playing the odds right, he’s still doing his job well. If his boss is one of those knowledgeable people, I’d call that a best case scenario.
by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd be a terrible manager; not thick-skinned enough
I’d spend far too much time here at McC arguing with you a-holes about whether I’m a moron.
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hahaha
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Oh Goofus
We’ll never believe you’re not a moron.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
He's going to stretch it to a triple!
We’ll never not believe you’re not a moron.
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That doesn’t mean what I don’t want it to not mean.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
This
Also, I’ve never heard anyone here say they could get in the box and hit Brian Wilson’s fastball, but everyone thinks they could stand in the dugout and manage a big-league team.
I suspect it’s much harder than it looks.
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Not to say you’re wrong, but I don’t think that’s an apt comparison. We all do manage the game in our heads every day. If Bochy screws it up, we know that our idea was better. If Bochy’s move works out, then he got lucky. We have the same opportunity to manage that he does.
On the other hand, none of us will ever have the faintest idea of what facing a 97 MPH fastball is like.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well....
If Bochy screws it up, we know that our idea was better. If Bochy’s move works out, then he got lucky. We have the same opportunity to manage that he does.
But that’s just it. Everyone assumes that there idea was better, even though they have no way of knowing what the outcome would have been.
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But I doooooo because I’m smarrrrrttterrrrrrr and he’s a dummmmmmyyyyyyyy!
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Inevitable Simpsons reference
Moe: "The only thing I know about strategy is that whatever the manager does, it’s wrong. Unless it works in which case he’s a button pusher."
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
As I think you know . . .
. . . that’s not the point ("no way of knowing what the outcome would have "). The point is that we know or have an excellent idea, for almost every situation, of what the probabilities are of the various outcomes flowing from the various available options. If, in blackjack, I hit a hard 18 and pull a deuce or trey, I have nevertheless made a severely bad decision, and the numbers to prove it can readily be adduced. Not everyone judging managerial choices in fact knows those options and their probable consequences, but there are objective grounds for critiquing decisions.
Even decisions that are based on apparently more qualitative bases, such as a pitcher’s needing, or not needing, to be taken out usually turn out to have some quantifiable basis, such as his previous history in similar situations.
It is not the case in every instance that reckoning that a given idea would have been a better choice is just an assumption. (Look at Posnanski’s analysis, for example.)
Sabean delenda est!
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Yes, I get that
…but think there’s often “wiggle room” that people who want to go strictly by the numbers want to ignore. As i said before, I really doubt Joe Posnanski took 30 seconds to develop that argument, which was the amount of time a manager has to make that decision.
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That's an old debate.
I incline to the view that there’s less wiggle room rather than more, but that sort of debate can go on for hours. The sort of thing Posnanski did, however, is not what a manager is supposed to do in the moment: what a manager is supposed to do is know, whether from experience and intuition or from analytic study, that intentionally walking the bases full is a pretty low-odds situation. If a manager keeps the broad principles straight, then even if he doesn’t know the fine points, and thus occasionally makes a slightly less than optimal decision, by and large he will be well ahead of those who manage by “gut”.
By analogy, you can play blackjack with just “basic strategy”; you won’t have the slight advantage that an experienced, competent card counter will have, but you’ll do vastly better than the punters who know nothing of strategy and go by instinct.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I’ve hit 60 MPH fastballs before. Sure, it was in the batting cages at Scandia in Fairfield, but still. I was able to get some of the bat on the ball a couple times and my hands hurt like hell. Then I remembered major league pitchers throw 50% faster than that.
Ergo, by comparison, managing as well as Bruce Bochy would be easy.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Not only that; the machine pretty much throws the ball down the middle, so you know it's a strike
Now imagine looking for a pitch 50% faster while also having to think about the possibility of a breaking ball, plus having to think about location in and out and not chasing a bad pitch.
And oh yeah, try not to think about the fact that if the pitch hits you in the head, it could possibly kill you.
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Great story I read somewhere about a fella who had a friend who was friends with Tom Seaver (about 5 years after his playing days). Friend #1 fancied himself a bit of a hitter so he had friend #2 arrange a BP session with Mr. Seaver, bragging about how he’d school the old legend..
Well, Seaver got warm while friend #1 watched, timing the fastball. Friend #1 steps in the box and takes a menacing swing at the first pitch, fouling it off. The next pitch was right at his head, missing him by inches. BP session was over, period.
Apparently it took friend #1 about 2 hours to stop shaking.
About 20 years ago
I had a boss that had pitched in the minor leagues (for the Reds, IIRC). He knew I had played in high school, and we ended up throwing batting practice to each other fairly often. He took it easy on me, I doubt he ever got his pitches over 65 or 70.
However, one week I asked him if he’d throw me some breaking stuff. Dude threw me a curve ball that I swear started two feet behind my back and ended up on the outside part of the plate.
That shit scared me way more than a fastball.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Got to watch BP from the field this season and stood right behind Sanchez' side session
There was a screen between the catcher and us, but I got a REAL good look at his pitches.
I hit left-handed, so imagined myself stepping in and trying to hit him and came to two conclusions:
- His fastball is really, really tough. His delivery is so easy, but the ball explodes out of his hand.
- I would have shit my pants on the first breaking ball and peed myself on the second one.
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Batting practice:
Standing behind the screen—the one they put up behind home plate for pre-game batting practice—and watching would be enough to convince any sane person to never attempt baseball. It is almost literally terrifying, even though you know the ball cannot get to you (unless, like Hank Greenwald, you carelessly hold on to the netting, in which case your fingers can get powdered, as his once did).
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I won't pretend to be a ballplayer
(I could never hit for snot even as a kid) but I can attest that you get used to fastmoving objects. I played enough tennis as a youth against the occasional good player. There is absolutely a ball speed where things get really weird (I always assumed it was in the 90-handle mph range for serves, but honestly have no idea), but weird isn’t terrifying at that point — though probably it should be. I didn’t take too many of those serves to the face, though.
I was a SABR little leaguer before my time
I swear my batting lines in little league must have been like .150/.400/.150
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wish I had played
I don’t think I would have been anything but horribly wild as a pitcher, but all those tennis serves meant I probably would have had okay velo. The one time as I kid I saw a radar gun at the fair my throw was in the low 60s off flat ground. At the time I thought this was terrible, since I assumed I would not be so very far from the 90s I saw on the teevee radar guns.
I was a pretty good pitcher at the beginning of little league
Because my dad was a crafty lefty in college and taught me breaking pitches before anyone else knew them.
Then, when I got older and the field got bigger, all my pitches blost a lot of their break because I had to throw them for longer distances. That’s when I became a right fielder, heh.
But I took walks. I remember one season I had, like, one hit – but I was on base just about every game.
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I was a righty, but my grandfather taught me to throw a two-seam fastball instead of four. Ended up with a nice bit of break that got me some good results when I threw it down in the zone. If I ever got it close to there. I’m sure you remember the age, when “pitching with control” meant it was a strike 2 outta 4 tries.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
The Scandia in Sacramento had a 70's cage
When I played high school ball, I could actually handle it fairly well. But that was a long time ago – and the last time I went to the cages, I was having trouble just fouling off the 60’s.
The batting cages in Folsom have an 80 mph cage. Was watching a kid in there a few weeks back – I could barely see the damn thing – but I could hear it!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Terry Whitfield's cages in Burlingame
Has 80+ I beleive
They have these cool life-size videos of pitchers pitching the ball and it looks like it’s coming out of his hand
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Man, it’s really hard to hit one of those 60 mph fastballs. And, I mean, I’m a pretty good athlete for my size, and I’m pretty comfortable with a bat in my hands, and I have a really hard time doing it.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Cages are pretty cake. Even up to 80’s. It’s all timing. A live pitcher with breaking stuff and changeups is a whole different deal.
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I did start making adjustments that were getting me closer to having the timing down. The tough thing is that your brain knows the important thing is bat speed, but it translates that as “swing as hard as you possibly can.” Every ten or so pitches, you get closer to breaking that mentality and doing it right. But by the time your body starts to figure it out, you’ve worn yourself out too much to make it work.
I think if I went to the cages regularly, I could make consistent contact within a few sessions. But going irregularly, it’s always 50 pitches of retraining myself not to swing out of my heels, and then the rest of my pitches being too tired to do it right.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think most of it is repetition. I’m sure you would have it if you went even once a week.
A good way to start without tiring yourself out is to use your hands more. That helps with contact. Once you can consistently make contact you can start using your hips to drive the ball.
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A good way to start without tiring yourself out is to use your hands more. That helps with contact. Once you can consistently make contact you can start using your hips to drive the ball.
It has always amazed me how much baseball sounds like sex. Or vice versa.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Yeah I know
I constantly strike out.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 20, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
When I was younger I played cricket – there was one kid I faced who played semi-pro and could (apparently) bowl at 80. 80 is a little slower in cricket than in baseball because you bounce the ball in, but bear in mind that you can aim at the batter’s head in cricket. And didn’t the bastard know it.
I got out third ball and I’ve never been so relieved.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 20, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Recently I drove by a baseball field and saw a bunch of dudes playing cricket. Being in a small town in the midwest, this was definitely a strange sight. It looked really fun. I want to try sometime.
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Cricket’s awesome. I still prefer it to baseball, though obviously I’m not going to say that too loudly round here.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 20, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Cricket’s organizational structure is confusing and there’s no real prize to win. Nobody cares that much about the World Cup, and domestic competitions are unimportant. Plus Test matches are boring as fuck. I like it otherwise, though.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
I do like how it becomes international incidents between Commonwealth countries, though.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Well it’s one of those things where you need context. I’m sure you are aware that nearly every Englishman would say baseball matches are boring as fuck too – obviously I don’t, but that’s because I took the time to get into it. It’s the little subtleties in a test match that take days to develop that make it great, but I agree it’s not an all action spectator sport.
Incidently, they’ve finally – after what, 150 years of test match cricket and 250 years of first class cricket – got around to organising an international test match league in the past month or so.
When you say nobody cares about the world cup – it’s not a huge thing in England (we’re more into tests), but the 1.5 billion odd people in the Indian subcontinent – my God do they care.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 20, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently . . .
. . . the competition is thought of as “testing” one team’s abilities against the other’s.
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I don’t think the origin is known exactly. I do know “Test” cricket was defined in retrospect – they sat down after internationals had been going for about 50 years and decided which games has “test” status.
But the gist was that in those days every match had it’s own rule variations, so they sat down and decided which games were “testing” enough to justify the very top status. Basically they had to be top players, between two nations, and played under the most testing rules – generally in those days tests had no timeframe, and could go on for ages. I think once they played for 9 days, right up until the point where one team had to catch a boat home.
A similar issue surrounds national cricket and “first class” definitions – with team cricket growing organically from around 1600 and scorecards being thin on the ground, it’s a matter of debate where to start your stats from.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the people in that part of the world are crazy when it comes to cricket. I was in Dhaka on December 26, 2004, when Bangladesh defeated India by 15 runs in an ODI. I’m too young to have seen any team from the Bay Area win a championship, but I would imagine that that’s what it’s like.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
CRICKET IS A HORRIBLE SPORT
I played in the Ivy League.
Real men play it though – I’ll give ’em that. First rule – cut your finger nails because the ball will tear it clean off. And as mentioned above, you stand in front of the wicket (think plate) and the bowler bounces it at you. If you get hit you are out. Plus the ENTIRE GAME is 1 inning – everyone bats until they are out, then switch.
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cricket is awesome
I will brook no dissent.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
When I was 15 I hit against a guy who supposedly threw 90MPH (the coaches were trying to make the other guys’ all-stars less intimidating by comparison). Scared the shit out of me and the best I could do was ground out. Mostly whiffs and fouls.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Just reminded . . .
. . . of an old saying:
There are three things that every man in the land thinks he can do better than the guy actually doing them: run the country, start a fire, and manage a major-league ball club.Sabean delenda est!
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Just read that on Baseball Think Factory.
People are calling for Girardi/Washington’s head.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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How many people does it take to play a bass guitar?
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Matt Cain
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For the life of me, I don’t know why this isn’t green.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Enjoyed this thoroughly
And this from the end of June.
For the last time, the Cliff Notes on how Bochy works: Vinny Castilla was a smoldering husk of a player, but Bochy kept playing him. The GM of the Padres was all, “Hey, did you ever think about not playing him?” And then Bochy was all, “Hey, Poindexter, you gave me these players, so I’ll play the ones I think help the team. If you don’t think I should play a guy, get rid of him.” And then the Padres GM was all, “Fine.” And Bochy was all, “Fine.” Then Vinny Castilla was released, where he was quickly signed by retirement.
Ya wanna be in the show
Come on Bochy lets GO!!!
{guitar solo}
I have a bad feeling about this game
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Bums will take care of business...
its not a bad feeling. you’re just anxious. The last bad feeling I had we won the West.
I don't
I’m actually less nervous about today’s game than I have been all series. Worst case scenario is that the Giants are tied 2-2 in the NLCS and that’s still pretty damn good.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Me too
This was the matchup I liked best in my pre-series analysis. Nearly the entire advantage our starting pitching had over Philly come from the MadBum and Zito over the back of their rotation.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Maybe I've been a Giants fan too long
But if they were down 2-1 in this situation, I would feel a lot better about the game, but given that a win today would put them up 3-1, I’m terrified. Maybe, like Matt Cain, I just don’t know how to win.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob Neyer of ESPN is the biggest hater/douchebag on the planet
He somehow in the same article is able to call Cain the most unlucky and lucky pitcher in MLB. His reasoning that the Phillies lost that game yesterday, and the Giants did not win it because of Cain’s and the rest of the staffs dominance is dumbfounding. If Rush Limbaugh doesn’t raise your blood pressure a little bit. maybe Neyer can.
Brad Lidge: "No, I have not Just-For-Menned my beard at any point."
Rob Neyer
Poser douche-bag. He was the first mainstream writer who touted advanced metrics, but he is a colossal douche-bag who writes with all the wit and wisdom of paint.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In his defense
He did pick the Giants to win the NL West back at the beginning of September when the Pads were ahead.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
he’s pretty much the only ESPN pundit that consistently talks about the Giants.
I don’t really disagree with anything in that column either. Cain is a good pitcher, but he’s not dominant. That’s fine. His HR/FB might be skill, it might be luck. Neyer is agnostic on it, and so am I.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I can’t get myself too worked up over this article. Nothing new here that hasn’t been said/written before. Some people will just never get on the Cain bandwagon for whatever reason (winz, Ks, xFIP, extreme FB pitcher, it’s AT&T stupid, blah blah).
I would like to rec this comment, though:
Perhaps the most ignorant post I’ve ever seen by Rob Neyer, which is especially depressing considering his usual high quality of writing. Perhaps this piece expresses his true quality and the years of good writing were just “luck”?
They could be Giants...but not really.
+1
Whatever. Cain’s stats are a little befuddling. Who cares? He can fly under everyone’s radar for as long as he wants.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Neyer’s been a bit out of it this postseason (he suggested the Rangers should have used Frank Francisco against the Yankees, even though he’s injured and unavailable, and then said that AT&T is friendly to left-handed power hitters), but generally he’s not bad at all. He certainly can’t be accused of East Coast Bias — he’s from Kansas City and lived in Seattle and then Portland, OR.
I also don’t see how this article is really hating on Matt Cain. Some people will argue that a pitcher with Cain’s peripherals should have a higher ERA. (Though even with an ERA around 4.00, he should have a better W-L record than he does.)
everybody needs a second chance
you wanna be in the show
come on, mccoven, lets go
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 20, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
Hey, Philadelphia and surrounding area residents

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
You will suffer humiliation when the sports team from my area defeats the sports team from your area
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I hope you just didn't jinx the sports team from your area
…because they’re the sports team from my area too
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Holy shit, this is epic:
Dressed-up truck is along for San Francisco Giants’ postseason ride
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
Also, Barry Zito is blind since birth!
by KrazyKrabMeat on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I may not know better
But I would not think it’s Botch’s call who is in minors and who makes 25 man team.
Regardless, I did not watch him manage much over rebuilding. I bought extra innings this year, and I think he did a really good job. Honestly his calmness in the clubhouse is under rated, but pointed out nicely in this article.
It is hard work managing a team that gets 57 saves in a year for 92 wins. Phillies had 40 saves in 97 wins. It seemed like 56 of those 57 saves were 1 run victories too. Nevermind games like Eckstein homering in the 11th for a walk off, or Manny Ramirez dropping a 2 run dinger to win 2-1.
And we are playing the best ball at the best possible time. I give extra points too to Raggs for the job the staff has done. 1.78 ERA in September? Ridiculous. 1 guy gets hot, you can point to a guy. Entire staff? Gotta give some props to the pitching coach. Also point out that he home grew up the 4 starters. Maybe not as little leaguers, but as draft picks to the aces they are now… he was at least the cherry on top of that Sunday.
It's better to be lucky than good.
Yeah, this brings up another great point
On a team whose hallmark was bouncing back after heartbreaking and potentially backbreaking defeats, at least some credit should go to the manager for the team being ready to play the next day.
Bouncing back after Game 2 vs. the Braves and coming back to win Game 3 (even though Groug said it was “over”) were just the latest examples.
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I agree
Proving groug wrong is definitely one of Bochy’s strengths.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Bochy has made very few errors in these playoffs. Strangely, every single one has bitten him in the butt, hard. I think he’s doing a good job though.
Broscience investigator.
by HOLDEMUPGoldenStateOfOppression on Oct 20, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions
the only times he’s made mistakes, it’s been all in one game (see, PHI game 2). He even screwed up in game 2 before it started (by playing Fontenot over Panda)
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just a players fan
If the players are having fun and the team chemistry seems to be working then the manager is doing his job just fine.
by Lefty-is-crafty on Oct 20, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
ESPN preview of today's game
“Up a game in the NL Championship Series, the San Francisco Giants will not have to face Philadelphia ace Roy Halladay in Game 4. However, trying to get the best of the Phillies’ Joe Blanton might not be any easier.”
Really? Really?? They’ll say just about anything so long as its not giving the Giants any kind of commendation
http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/gamecast?w=19zv9&gameId=301020126&i=scw
by nhlogan on Oct 20, 2010 12:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
You can say that again
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 20, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
“However, trying to get the best of the insert name here might not be any easier.”
This may be a little more accurate.
wait...
does Joe Blanton have a nose?
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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ESPN preview of today's game
“Up a game in the NL Championship Series, the San Francisco Giants will not have to face Philadelphia ace Roy Halladay in Game 4. However, trying to get the best of the Phillies’ Joe Blanton might not be any easier.”
Really? Really?? They’ll say just about anything so long as its not giving the Giants any kind of praise
http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/gamecast?w=19zv9&gameId=301020126&i=scw
by nhlogan on Oct 20, 2010 12:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
like a wise dude once said
to the Giants, every pitcher is Roy Halladay.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice game stupids
Cain was really good. I knew he had a good fastball but his changeup was a lot better than I remembered. He really painted on Utley with the change those 2nd and 3rd ABs with RISP
Pretty damn big one today….not that it would be completely hopeless with a 3-1 deficit and Roy-Roy-Cole coming back, but it would be nice to have the insurance so that if Lincecum decides to throw a shutout, we wouldn’t be eliminated in 5
If the cupcakes are down this evening I think it’ll be another low scoring nail biter

Fuck you!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Oct 20, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks like he wants to eat his own pitch.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 20, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo will have a huge game
He never misses a cupcake.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Unfortunately
“Huge” will not describe his offensive performance, merely the offensiveness of engorging himself on cupcakes.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Saw this gem on philly.com today LOL bitter phillies "beat writer"
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20101020_Gonzo___In_a_bubble_by_the_bay.html?page=1&c=y
How does this scum bag have a job? What a garbage article screaming of insecurities and phillies cheer leading. The 2nd page of the article really brings out the genius and tears.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
My name is Logan.
You can quote me. I love Barry Bonds. I have always loved Barry Bonds. I love him because I got to watch one of the 5 best hitters to ever play the game hit bombs for my home town team. San Francisco loves Barry because Barry always loved us back – no matter what the media says.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
you can tell he's a hater
cuz he says “san fran”. also he is a dumbass that is completely full shit. im literally fuming angry after reading that article. it’s so absurd. so disrespectful. so….philly
PHUCK the PHILLIES
by nhlogan on Oct 20, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, from reading the comments on there it seems like most Philly fans think he’s an idiot as well, something like the Ratto of Philly sports journalism. Yeah, but that article was way over the top. Usually in the “ooh steroids are terrible, but Giants fans still support Bonds” articles, there’s at least some allowance for the fact that he somehow became the face of a steroid scandal that permeated the entire sport and certainly was not spearheaded by Bonds. Here there’s nothing, just the straight up “Bonds is evil” shtick, and Giants fans are gutless for supporting him.
I’ve never been a huge Barry-lover, but what the fuck were we supposed to to? The man was SCORING RUNS FOR OUR TEAM IN BASEBALL GAMES. Were we supposed to boo him?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite exchange was with a mid-20s surfer type with a mop of shaggy blond hair and a bright orange Giants T-shirt:
Are you a Barry Bonds fan?
“Oh yeah,” he said.
You’ve always supported him?
“Yup.”
And you cheered for him today?
“Big time.”
Great. I work for The Inquirer. Can I get your name?
“Uh . . . I’d rather not.”
Why?
“I know he’s a cheat, and I know how you’re going to make it sound,” he said. “I mean, people are going to read this, right?”
Hopefully.
“Yeah, like I said, I’d rather not then.”
There’s no reason to doubt that this happened.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Skater shoes.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Of a particular, California sort of persuasion, notorious for trying to maintain their reputation in cities on the other side of the country.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
The other big thing that was left out
Barry might be an asshole, but he’s our asshole. He went to Serra (suck it Tom Brady), grew up in the Bay Area and came home to play baseball. When he came back not only was he good, he was the best of his generation, and even though most of us don’t want to be best friends with the guy, it’s okay to recognize achievement even if an asshole achieved it, but especially if it was your asshole.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What we've learned over the past few days
Sometimes, sportswriters are woefully uninformed.
Other times, they’re pathetically lazy.
Many times, they are both these things.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
by Kitspool on Oct 20, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Barry Bonds was a great player for our team, so we cheer for him - how is that so fucking hard to understand?
and Phillies fans puke on little girls, booed Santa Claus and have a fucking jail and a judge/courtroom in their stadium b/c their fans are a bunch of fucking no-class hooligans.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure this guy would no doubt say that Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Oct 20, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Mike Vick.
Love,
San Francisco
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad he didn’t interview me (not that I was there). I’ve backed Bonds for years. Sure, he used steroids, but no one on the Phillies didn’t? So many players did that it’s silly to single out Bonds. People single him out because he was the best and because people never liked him. Fuck that, it’s ridiculous, as is this article.
And what’s that? Madison is a weird name for a dude? That’s nice, enjoy being a jackass.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the ‘philly.com’ might have been your first hint.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call myself a "complete game fetishist"
But what I have most dreaded on 3 occasions during these playoffs, is the camera going to Bochy and watching him go ionto his constipated, little hemming and hawing dance before going pout and pulling our starting pitchers after they were pitching masterful performances.
Up to now, in the Braves Series we witnessed Cain being pulled and the relievers blowing a 4 run lead, and then the next day Sanchez gets pulled with a one run lead,and we end up falling behind by a run going into the 9th
.In game 2 against the Phillies, the chief reason few have made an issue about pulling Sanchez is because we didn’t blow a lead, we just made it impossible to win. We’ll never know what Cain and Sanchez would have done. But in mind, this has happened 3 times in 7 total games. And I know it will happen again.
Bochy has prematurely pulled Cain in 3 games where the bullpen has blown two 3 run leads, and one 4 run lead. He was pulling starters prematurely when our bullpen wasn’t very good , remember Bautista and the mid season Mota slide? I think the more pitchers you bring into a game , the greater your chances are of one of those pitchers having an off night. It’s true now our bullpen is much better, and I will grant it’s a good thing to get their feet wet.as outside of Wilson and Lopez , their still seems to be playoff jitters..I was happy to see him walk out to the mound and not pull Cain last night., and I do like that he’s not afraid to tweak his lineup.
It’s always difficult to criticize a manager that conservatively plays the right lefty consensus, or the pitch count, which is sometimes a dubious indicator IMO.I do think managers who were poor hitting catchers and were good pitch handlers do have their flaws and I think Bochy overmanages. I think if Bochy might start a trend of letting our big 3 starters work their way through a few more of their problems, I think we’ll be well awarded.
by War Years Legacy on Oct 20, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
I’m not sure it’s fair to question Bochy because his moves didn’t work out. I have been a big Romo supporter, and I supported Bochy going to him against the Braves. I’d support Bochy going to him today if the situation warrants it. Sometimes, a right call doesn’t work out.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best thing I saw so far today . . .
. . . was a little kid in my 5 year old’s kindergarten class wearing his Panda head hat during recess, in honor of the playoffs. I talk baseball with his firefighter dad at pick-up time – nice to see kids being raised right these days.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Awesome
It was “Giants” day at my daughter’s school today. Orange and black on every kid and a couple panda hats. I heard a 6-7 year old defending Jeremy Affeldt to one of his classmates. It was pretty cool.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Those are some very savvy 6-7 year olds. When I was in second grade, I was mostly concerned with finding high quality paste to eat.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I was all about the dinosaurs.
I loved Stegosaurus.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
The “brontosaurus” fossil had the wrong skull in its place. They corrected and changed it to “apatosaurus.” This happened a while ago.
I thought it was a sauropod dinosaur. So still a dinosaur, no?
They could be Giants...but not really.
It’s a veggiesaurus!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I think “thunder lizard” is cooler than “friendly lizard” in either language. Like how it turns out Torosaurus and Triceratops are the same genus. They decided to get rid of Torosaurus, not Triceratops.
Meanwhile, Pluto is still a planet dammit! Just make Eris one too!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
Dinger has turned me off Triceratops. Which is sad, since I used to be Triceratops and my dad would be T-rex and we’d do the battle!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
You should have been a stegosaurus

Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
“Let’s not sit here and analyze everything,” Victorino said. “We don’t have time. There’s not enough time to analyze situations. We don’t need to worry about why we’re not hitting. We need to worry about when we’re going to hit. And that’s going to be tomorrow. We’re going to go out there with reckless abandon.”
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
Fangraphs preview is up
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/nlcs-game-four-preview-san-francisco/
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Renteria SS Sanchez 2B Huff 1b Posey c Burrell lf Ross rf Sandoval 3b Rowand cf Bumgarner p
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sigh
Oh alright.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Rowand again
What? Doesn’t Bork understand the defensive drop-off?
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, exactly when did Rowand transform from “not Andres Torres” to a defensive liability.
It’s not like he’s Guillen out there or anything.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE MAN?
He has worse range than Edgar Renteria!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Wow, just because it worked once doesn’t mean it’ll work again. But glad to see Huff back in the 3 spot. And really, this is Russian roulette with Rowand in center over Torres. Defense is important, dammit.
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"Buster's basically a 21-year-old hot-chick that's an old soul" - Barry Zito
by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It's nice to see Pablo in there
But Rowand against a righty is just…
ROWAND HIT .237/.276/.373 AGAINST RIGHTIES THIS YEAR
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It’s not even the slash line — it’s the peripherals. He has a K/BB ratio of 59/8 against righties this year in 236 at-bats. Against lefties it’s 15/8 in 106 at-bats. He just doesn’t see right-handers well at all, and double against a lefty yesterday doesn’t freaking change that.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 20, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't see right-handers well?
Then it’s a good thing late-afternoon shadows won’t be an issue today!
Oh, wait.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I don’t mind Pablo, if nothing else, he’s going to be scary to face if you’re the opposing pitcher. And I don’t too much mind Rowand’s bat because I know exactly how terrible it is so I have such low expectations he can only surprise me. But for the second time in as many days I’m fairly certain that this game will be decided on a ball hit to deep center that Torres probably could have gotten but Rowand won’t.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
GOD DAMNIT ARE YOU FOR FUCKING REAL
It made a little bit of sense to start Rowand yesterday. It did.
And if Uribe is that hurt, starting Renteria is still fine. I like that Pablo is in the lineup.
BUT WHY THE HELL IS ROWAND STARTING AGAINST A RIGHTY. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Because the beat writers were so sure that Andres would be back today?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I'm confused.
How does this relate to the beat writers?
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This is Grant's fault
This is what happens when you say nice things about Bork.
The pooch has been screwed.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
I couldn’t have predicted this. Rowand is terrible against right-handers. What the…
Good god. What have I done?
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let this be a lesson to you
You wield a great deal of power now, and with that power comes the ability to influence those of weak intellect. Going forward use your powers for good.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This made me laugh
Then I remembered Bork is starting Rowand-2 and stopped laughing.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Amy G just posted it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Amy G posting could be ok
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
/Amy’d
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I copied from Jaymee.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks a lot, Grant.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I mean, Rowand against Blanton? Sheesh. Come on. Let’s all freak out because Andres Torres looked bad against Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt, the chumps.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 20, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
While you were typing that
Aaron Rowand swung at two sliders in the dirt and is already reached a Rowand-2 count.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand-2Count…is that some sort of unrealistic, weird, sexual position thing?
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
GIS result for "Bruce Bochy sly fox"
Let’s just say it involves nipple clamps and a pretzel.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’m going to hope it turns out okay. But this seems like a pretty big overreaction by Bochy.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Bochy? Overreact?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That said, his wild overmanaging has been somehow working out over the past week or so. He may be in a groove.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
jesus christ this is stupid
the veteran love is emerging again. Torres is better defensively, and significantly better offensively – why the hell would you not play him?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
This is totally Grant’s fault.
Also, jponry, I had a dream last night that you and I went to the beach and you bought me a beer.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
HAWT
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And now I want a beer. Dammit.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen this movie before.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
DAMMIT GRANT
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Would prefer:
Fontenot-2B
Posey-C
Huff-1B
Burrell-LF
Ross-RF
Sandoval-3B
Renteria-SS
Torres-CF
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
My opinion is that it would be optimal, yes.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
But would it be optimal?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
WOULD IT?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
/slider in dirt
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Wreck'd
For having so much awesome on it.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLineup from Baggs
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2010/10/20/nlcs-game-5-giants-lineup/
SS Renteria
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
C Posey
LF Burrell
RF Ross
3B Sandoval
CF Rowand
P Bumgarner
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Dammit Bochy, don't get cocky now!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Weird that Bumgarner’s hitting ninth instead of in front of Rowand.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 20, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Actually I would bat MadBum 7th.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL bork
You got a run out of rowand and no flubs on defense don’t pull a joe giradi and ask for more.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Goofus is going to have his work cut out for him this afternoon
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Is it possible
That Torres is still suffering ill effects from the appendectomy? The only way this lineup makes sense is if there is something physically wrong with Andres, not just “he’s in a cold streak”.
He's in a cold streak, and Rowand hit a double yesterday?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Im feeling a pinch hit hti
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Oct 20, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And, we now know that the philosophy is that if Torres is out, Renteria is in because there’s no one else to hit lead off.
Wonder if Uribe is really more hurt than we think, too.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Uribe might just be out because he’s been terrible in the playoffs.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I guess. It seems like a toss up to me: Panda vs. Rent vs. Uribe. I don’t really want any of them.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
I want Panda in because I haven’t seen him be terrible at hitting lately.
But after tonight’s 0-4, I won’t want to see him again.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
FonteMaybeSometimes?
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
FonteIForgotHeExistedWhoops.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
That’s probably best for all parties involved.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I’m so glad we are starting 7 right handers against a RHP today.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Hmph.
Clearly I shouldn’t have moved my scheduled teeth cleaning.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
after I read
this interview with Torres about his recent problems plate-side, I wouldn’t have written him in the lineup either. Dude is lost, searching, bewildered. I’d say he’s a guaranteed 0-4 right now. I’ve been for Torres all season, anti-Rowand. But I feel like Rowand, at this moment, has more upside. Believe me, it feels weird; wrong to write that.
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
how about neither, put Ross in CF, and start Nate in RF against RHP?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Nah.
That makes sense. There’s no sense in The Giants’ Way®.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Nate will not start a post-season game, whether he actually should or not.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
What if…you put Burrell in for Nate in the sixth?
Just crazy enough to work? MAYBE.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
It's a one-in-a-million chance . . .
. . . and Terry Pratchett fans know all about those.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
“What if he stands on one foot?”
It's Johnnie Walker inside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 20, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not smart . . .
. . . to second-guess physicians, but it has to make a layman wonder if his meds need a dosage adjustment.
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
does someone have Rowand's numbers vs Blanton?
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
OWNAGE IS OWNAGE!1
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
LOL
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
HOLY SMOKES AN RBI?!
Shove a crank up that guy’s butt, he’s starting!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
2-4 with 2 doubles and a HBP
I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why he’s starting lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
BUT
Andres is 1-3 with a HR!! What now??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
2 doubles > 1 HR
Home runs kill rallies.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Here's hoping for more HBP
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by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
For a full season...
that would be 300 doubles!!!
That would be, like, a record or something…
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Seriously though
I’m just going to pretend that Andres told Bochy he is not feeling healthy enough to play today
WTF is a Nate?
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Nate has
a day job that doesn’t allow him to make it to games until the 6th inning or so.
"No matter how hard you try, it's not easy." Armando Benitez, 9-12-06
mentally, he’s probably not.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And Manuel has benched Ibanez
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Are they playing Ben Francisco?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Don’t call him Brisco
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Dixie Cousins!
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
God dammit
So much for his klanks and rowand esque at bats.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Dope
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Oct 20, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions
Every time I think about this game
I picture Pablo hitting a grand slam into the cove. That would make me about as happy as possible.
OT: Rangers-Yankees
Yankee Stadium is dead. Lots of empty seats and absolutely no energy. I know it’s a day game, but it just feels wrong for a game at Yankee Stadium to have so little verve.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’ve seen Yankee fans make all sorts of excuses why the stadium is empty. High parking prices, day game, etc. Pathetic.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Some lots in SF were charging $80 for parking yesterday. Stadium still full.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
In general, I can’t feel bad for an able-bodied adult who chooses to drive to (and park at) this ballpark. There’s a zillion options, including THREE separate train systems that’ll drop you off within walking distance.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit, I paid top dollar for this motorized unicycle, and I’m gonna use it!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That's fine.
Free bike parking on the portwalk. (They accept beer as a tip, BTW. Tell ’em Troy sent you.)
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
in my defense, I rode the T train. I just saw the $80 parking signs.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure those signs cost a lot less than $80.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
/World Series hologram sticker
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
We found free street parking only about a mile away, over by 16th, and we weren’t even particularly early.
We walked past a sign on 3rd street near UCSF advertising $10 parking. Maybe half a mile from the park.
For $80, I expect the lot attendants to lay down and let you drive over their bodies to keep from getting your tires dirty.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
yikes
BART cost me $8.10, round trip.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
No. Just no. Absolutely not
I have been afraid to show up here precisely because I was afraid of finding that the McCoven had had their brains eaten by giant-headed zombies and now were themselves drooling Bochy- loving zombies.
But, after reading the comments to an article over on SFGate, wherein most of the comments proclaimed how Bochy was a genius for batting Renteria leadoff and that those of us who didn’t agree were all haters who knew nothing about baseball, I just had to come back to McC where the people know Bochy stinks and aren’t fickle or shallow enough to be swayed by a single base hit from Edgar. Right……….?
At least that’s what I hoped. So – fingers crossed – I headed over here hoping to find sanity. And I did. Thanks McCoven. You didn’t let me down.
Hey Bochey got us to the divisional championship ok
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Oct 20, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So
This is a lot funnier now that we know the lineup for today:
Through trial and error and whiff, he’s figured out that his best lineup doesn’t include Aaron Rowand or Edgar Renteria, yesterday’s game notwithstanding.
Is this where I freakout that Bochy has decided now is the best time to bench Torres? Cause I am pretty upset about it.
Rent over Uribe I can understand, sort of. If Uribe is still hurt, which his offensive performance yesterday leads me to believe the wrist is still bugging him, then Rent should probably get a shot. OTOH, Rent is hurt. so which hurt guy to you want more? Uribe will probably be more valuable if the Giants should advance, so rest him and hope he gets back close to 100%. Run Rent into the ground.
But Rowand against a RHP over Torres? Yes, Torres has been slumping. But his slump is what Rowand has been calling Tuesday for a while now. And the defensive drop off IN OUR PARK (CBP maybe another story) is far too great. I would really not enjoy that coming back to bite us in the ass.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I too am displeased by Rowand today
Grant’s fault.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
I can’t think of a move or non-move that Bruce has made recently that has caused me to anger.
I think he got a bit H&R happy, but I understand the logic behind it.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 20, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions
Centaur speed!
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Yakity Sax by the Rangers defense.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Grant could you please leave the room
I know we all love Grant and he’s great, but I think he may need to banned for the rest of the playoffs. He wields too much power, and has too much to learn about said power to risk something like this happening again. Either that, or someone should have to approve everything he writes before it’s posted.
On the other hand though, it’s highly unlikely that Bork read this, let alone even owns a computer, then again he does hang out with Sabean a lot, who I’m told had a dial up modem added to his Commodore 64 this year that allows him to access the World Wide Web, so it’s still possible.
Thoughts? Either way, it’s a sad, sad day, unless the Giants win of course and then Bork and Grant are geniuses.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
I agree
Goofus for MCC President!
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Eat the opposition, I've always said.
No one complains about a revolution covered in Teriyaki sauce.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OOOO, now I'm excited!
But only if it’s a bloody coup. If it’s just a regular coup, I’m not interested.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand hasn’t started against a right hander in six years. THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD HAVE KNOWN
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 20, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Now, now Grant
With the powers granted you by the gods of baseball nerdom, you should know by now that you could very well have known this, but chose not to. You just need to let your powers calm down and come back next season with Mark DeRosa, in your absence Michael Urban and FP Santangelo will take over writing for MCC….wait, what the…oh no, I think I’ve caught Bork-itis. Does anyone know if there’s a cure? Help!
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
JPORNY for New Grant!
Bust that glass ceiling!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Who is this JPorny of which you speak
Interesting name too.
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by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
There actually is a jporny. When he/she posts it gets confusing real quick.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Confusing?
But how could you miss the porn in JPorny, it’s just so glaring.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This probably won’t make sense to most people (it usually doesn’t) but I read words like pictures. So if it looks that similar, I will mistake it. Maybe now that you’ve pointed out the “porn” aspect I’ll be able to see it but I’ve always had to train myself to spot the differences in words through trial and error because I have too much trouble reading every individual letter.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Understand
I read words the same way, but if said words contain other words such as PORN, they jump out to me, I’m not really sure why…..
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I am afraid that if I do not support this notion, I’ll be first against the wall.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
And it ain’t the shootin’ wall.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This is true no matter what you do.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
the thing is, it's going to happen
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I need to hear your baseball platform before I can support you. Also, where do you stand on women’s issues? I only ask because media has taught me that as the only female candidate, your entire platform has to shaped by your stance on various “women’s issues.”
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Women's issues?
Like Oprah Magazine?
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Maybe?
I don’t know. I could never figure out why something like “choice” was grouped into the “women’s issues” umbrella. Seems like it’s pretty polarizing to people, regardless of sex, and every candidate gets asked about it, and yet when they do polls, it’s one of the “women’s issues” half the time.
God dammit, I’m a Poli Sci major, I should know what “women’s issues” are.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Women’s issues are [some patronizing stuff about sandwiches and leaving the toilet seat up]
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
HOME AND GARDEN MAGAZINE
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Sandwiches, you say?
Interesting…
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Ok
WHERE DO YOU STAND ON SANDWICHES, JPONRY???
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are standing on them, you're doing it wrong.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
by scout6 on Oct 20, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
very carefully
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
VERY CAREFULLY AIN'T NO PLACE I EVER HEARD OF
THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN VERY CAREFULLY?!?!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Sandwiches: Overrated or Underrated
I love sandwiches, but I think they’re overrated. I annoys me that some places – like many hospital cafeterias – consider them to be the only viable option at lunch. Sometimes I’m not in the mood for a sandwich!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
They are kind of comforting, in that they are almost always there as an option. But sometimes you want something else, for sure.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You officially have my vote.
DOWN WITH GRANT! END HIS TYRANNY NOW!
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
PB&J
the ultimate fallback food
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I now have PB & honey ranked higher
with a nice cold (at least) 16 oz glass of milk
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Also a good option. As is PB & fresh fruit, especially blackberries.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
minus the milk though, I’m a lactard.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
good sandwiches == underrated
bad sandwiches != actual food
You can't use those operators with strings, sir.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
I would say overrated. I’d much prefer a burrito. That said, I’ve been eating salami sandwiches like crazy this week. Some weird craving.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Hmm
I guess I just found something we disagree on. I love burritos, but there are way more variety of sandwiches that I will eat. I think I could go a whole year eating only sandwiches, and not get board, particularly because you can turn almost any ingredient into a sandwich.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
what about, say, non-burrito wrap-type things?
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Very dependent on their ingredients. I’ve had some good, some horrible.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Where exactly is the line between burritos and wraps?
Is it purely a Mexican food = burrito thing? If so, where does Tex-Mex fit into the issue?
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
These are the tough questions I will address if you vote for me for McCovey Leader ’10.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
You have my vote!
End the confusion now!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Oh great, because I needed to see MORE campaign ads!
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
“Goofus claims that he’s not anything like Grant. But when push comes to shove, he’s against turning this site into McLlama Chronicles. Does that sound like…CHANGE…to you?”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
by groug on Oct 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
IRL LOL
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yay!
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
man, im tellin ya, if you boil the pouches too…mmm
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
its the best part. that’s where the babyroos are.
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Bet you wish you could z-scroll through real campaign ads.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
/signs up to work on your campaign
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I like traditional burrito fillings. I don’t want any of this gourmet, thai chicken burrito crap. That’s a “wrap” and not a burrito.
Note: wraps are not to be confused with gyros, which I love.
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What about falafel wraps?
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I’m not a big fan of falafel, so I can’t comment on that.
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D:
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my favorite parts about Amsterdam (although there were plenty, BEAUTIFUL city) was that they had falafel stores everywhere, the way we have pizza shops here. I actually managed to stay on budget while there thanks to their cheap, delicious falafel.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Are we talking full wraps or pitas?
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Both of them are ok by me.
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Agreed
jponry 2010!
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You know what I like? A salad in a wrap. Especially a caesar salad wrap.
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They have a greek salad wrap in the field club section at AT&T. It’s good, but you end up eating it with a fork so it’s like you had a greek salad with a side of pita.
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damn that sounds good.
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Except I think it has greek olives on it, so maybe not for you?
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eh I can pick them out.
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Wraps are chick food
MEN eat sammiches. With mayo and mustard dripping out the back of crusty sourdough loaves stuffed with meat parts that were cooked/smoked in casings. Lettuce is only permitted if the guy is married and has to convince his wife that he ate vegetables.
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I'll check back with you on this
When you’re in your 50s. Of course, I may be taking my dirt nap by then, so just file my contrarian opinion away for future reference.
What about those Vietnamese style spring rolls?
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I am reliably informed that they can be turned into televisions by the Japanese.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
They can do anything!
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I ate a salami sandwich for lunch today. With fontina cheese. On rustic sourdough. With a thin layer of pesto.
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can of corn
reliably beating the salami drum
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Yes.
Yes I did.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Hell yeah. Although this was my first salami in over two weeks. Maybe 3.
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I still haven’t tried mine with pesto, because I really like them with mustard.
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This
Salami sandwiches with extra mustard and pickles.
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I had a pickle on the side. Sometimes the pickles detract from the salami/mustard combo.
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This is perfectly acceptable, so long as it isn’t a bread and butter pickle. Those things can go die in a fire with Dinger.
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Yeah, remember when they gave you those at Public House? I thought you were going to throw up on the patio right in front of Chris Lincecum and Mychael Urban.
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Sadly, I do remember that terrible moment.
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They need to make a sign or something that says “Those are just garnish, do not eat them.”
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Odd pet peeve of mine
non-edible garnishes. Seriously, if it’s not edible, don’t put it on my plate.
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its usually all edible, just, not preferred
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Not those little plastic grass things they sometimes have in sushi trays. When I was little, my parents used to let me put them on the Christmas tree.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Pickles and mustard is a tricky combination, excepts when it’s a fried pickle. Those have to be served with mustard.
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I’ve had them dipped in ranch dressing. Pretty good, even though I otherwise hate ranch dressing.
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Mustard is gross (except for spicy brown mustard on brats). Pickles are just nasty.
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We can’t be friends anymore.
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It is what it is. I’ll treasure our time together.
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Btw, I sent you a DM. I guess it will be the last one…
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Nope. I’ve changed my mind. I’m not letting you go. I WON’T LET YOU QUIT ME!
(saw it – and thanks)
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I used to hate pickles but I’ve come around on them recently. Olives, otoh, are disgusting (except for on pizza).
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You’ve lost my support in your Teriyaki coup.
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YOU'RE LOSING ME JPONRY
I’M PRO-OLIVE AND I VOTE
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Oh no
Dissent in the jponry 2010 party. Olives are awesome.
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Incorrect
Signed,
Pastrami, Hot dogs, and Hamburgers
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
War dudes that show up drunk on Sapphire gin
I’m out.
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I’m Hamburgers, just so you know.
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Beware
ROBBLE ROBBLE ROBBLE
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
I basically won’t eat a hamburger unless it has pickles on it. I make them add them to my In N Out burgers.
The only exception: when the burger has guacamole and a green chile on it.
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Remember the olden days when you could go into a local convenience store & jam your whole hand into a huge oaken barrel and come out with a huge pickle, which you then ate?
I’m lucky to still be alive.
You ate those pickles?!?!
I thought it was a urinal
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Seriously, that is so gross.
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In theory, the chemicals would keep it relatively clean.
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“Relatively clean” is still not clean enough.
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Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
I think what we are comparing the cleanliness to play a large factor in this conversation as well.
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I tried, but I can’t squeeze a lol into the word ‘pedantic’.
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Some places still do similar, though I guess tongs are likely present.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve had 3 pastrami sammiches in the last week. Found a new place.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Spill the details
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
man even I think you are wrong on this one. AND I AM CHINESE.
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
/crosses can of corn off the Christmas card list
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
It’s OK, I may not understand your reasons but I respect your right to be wrong.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
I would say “OM NOM NOM NOM” except you said pesto. So I won’t ask you to save me a bite.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s clearly irrational.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Actually, it’s very sane. Pesto will literally kill me (pine nuts). It’s not that it’s not delicious – although last time I had it I was 12 so it’s hard to remember – but I would have to make it myself w/o pine nuts in order to consume it.
It’s the same reasons I can’t eat Lebanese food, usually. Pine nuts are a key ingredient in most dishes. But man, that food looks SUPER good.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, okay then. It’s allowed.
Tomorrow I’ll make the same sandwich sans pesto in your honor.
Fontina cheese is magical, surpassed only by fontiago cheese (a fontina/asiago hybrid).
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Hybrid cheese? Is this the Liger of cheese?
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Wow. Fontiago, I will remember this.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The only places I can find it locally are Lunardi’s and Cosentino’s markets, although I’ve heard rumors that Trader Joe’s may carry it occasionally.
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Shit
We don’t even have a Trader Joe’s here.
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Where the fuck are you?
Russia?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Omaha
So close enough.
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Found some online
http://www.deescheese.com/products.php
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
The internet!
Man, that site would be death for a cheese addict. And thanks!
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Hey – that’s almost $4 a pound cheaper than I pay!
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UNALLOWED
Pesto does terrible things to my stomach, but I soldier on all the same.
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Ok, I know this probably makes me not a gamer, but . . .
I get hives on the inside of my throat. In about 1 minute. And lose the ability to breath. If I don’t have an eppi pen, I’m dead.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
So if I hear you right, you’re saying that you could eat it for a minute at a time. Sounds good to me!
(I kid – of course you should not eat it)
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LOL
I can hear the mom in you. Only mom’s say something like that and then make sure to disclaimer it. Which is good, because children don’t often understand sarcasm.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha. I’ve been teaching my kids sarcasm. They’re very eager students.
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You’re an awesome mom!
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
/chasm
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Why live if you can’t eat pesto?
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I’ve managed just fine for 25 years now.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait
I’m 26 now. Dammit.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLD
I’m also 26, though, I would argue, wiser, kinder, and more complete because of my ability to revel in the wonders of pesto.
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LOL
Thanks!! :)
But honestly, don’t sacrifice your sammich. If pesto’s that good, have pesto. Maybe one day I’ll know the joys of it, but not today :/
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Pesto is the quiche of the 90's
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Except taht quiche sucks.
/watches sub thread go
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-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Seriously.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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I’d rather have a frittata.
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What is the practical difference between the two? Is a frittata like an egg cake?
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Basically. It doesn’t have a crust. For my favorite recipe, you broil it in the oven rather than baking it.
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So, we’re basically having an egg cake vs. egg pie discussion. I wish Lars were here for this.
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Me, too. :(
(Not that we can’t guess on what side of the debate he’d fall.)
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Whichever ever side is yickier.
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Agreed
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Although mini-quiche are occasionally good. But only occasionally.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Only the ones with bacon
Bacon makes all things yummy
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Agreed
For instance, chocolate covered bacon – way, way better than it sounds.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Chocolate-covered bacon ice cream: just as weird as it sounds.
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weird-delicious? or weird-bad?
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
And I’m not in on the whole bacon fetish.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 20, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This is correct.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Underrated but over used
Few things are better than a well crafted sandwich but, as you mentioned, there are way more options out there for lunch.
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I like the range a sandwich has. That being said, sometimes I don’t want meat, cheese, and veggies between two pieces of bread.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
good question
your average commercially available sandwich ~ overrated
a really good sandwich ~ underrated
so often slightly disappointing, but any given sandwich still has a lot of upside.
I enjoy Ted’s, 11th and Howard.
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That depends on if it is 2 female or 2 male
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creepy Texas radio ad is creepy
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Rangers fan here
but I want them to lose today. And then Game 6. As a Giants Firster, I need to have the Rangers use Cliff Lee in Game 7 so that he can’t go in a possible World Series opener.
The NL team is going to have to face Cliff Lee twice, regardless
Really doesn’t matter if he pitchest the 1st, 2nd, or third game.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But it would at least leave out a Texas Ranger Scorched Earth Games 1/4/7 strategy. These are in all likelihood the last games Lee will ever throw for Texas, so there’s no reason they wouldn’t exhaust him completely
by biff pocoroba on Oct 20, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Lee might have something to say about that.
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Like this?
“Oh no, I don’t want to pitch three games in the World Series to give us the best chance of winning the World Series”
I, uh, doubt it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
I’m pretty sure he did it last year.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Was he asked last year to pitch on 3 days rest?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
No.
He was told!
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by NuschlerFace on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Four, maybe?
Basically, he said ‘I don’t pitch on short rest’.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not so fast
Lee not starting game 1 means he can’t start three games, and if he starts game 3 and you win all of the other games you only see him once.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Cliff Lee in games 1 and 5 instead of 3 and 7
I’d rather face Rangers starter #3 than Lee in the final game of the seaswon
I'm a Giants Fan. I have no fingernails. You knew this.
by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What that leaves the Giants with is a manager who doesn’t waste a lot of outs with bunts, who doesn’t warm up his bullpen relentlessly and needlessly, who has the respect of his players, who has a temperament that’s even enough to absorb the tough losses and calm a clubhouse…
With a description like that, the only way I can tell you guys don’t have Bobby Cox is that you got out of the NLDS…
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Don't blame Bobby
You’d get tossed too before you had to listen to that fucking chop for one more inning.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hold your toung, young fella!
The Chop is what it sounds like when God farts
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by Anthony Pace on Oct 20, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that young
And I thought the Chop was what it sounded like when a bunch of ill-informed fair weather fans got together.
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by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
lol @ fair-weather fans
Braves have a bunch of them, for sure, but my mom would assault you with a fly-swatter if you called her that.
Yeah, I don’t know who I’m calling young, I’m 21 and directionless…
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by Anthony Pace on Oct 20, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
*queef
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 20, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Lance Berkman looks really weird in high socks. Also, it’s completely bizarre to see him playing for the not-Astros.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Bochy's hopes
obviously are for Rowand to run into one and see if he can catch 8 hole magic
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
Bochy
“I like the way Aaron has been swinging the bat… I like the way he’s swinging a little more than Andres.”
Ahahaha.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Ah.
So it was the wife’s call.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
in all fairness Torres has been a Kmachine and Rowand has like 10 ABs in the last month and has a HR, 2B… Bochy’s already impressed.
Plus he only K’d with the bases chalked instead of GIDP against ATL
stay hot.
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching Torres' postseason ABs...
…I don’t see how anyone could possibly be swinging a little more than Andres.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
+1
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
On the music front
So we go from the Gibbards to…Huey Lewis and the News?
They could be Giants...but not really.
Awesome, their National Anthem is really cool in a doo-wap way
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
My friend emailed me a static-y cellphone recording of their soundcheck. Dudes sounded great.
There’s an 80s/early 90s pop theme in this series so far…MC Hammer yesterday, Huey Lewis today.
They could be Giants...but not really.
Video of Huey and the News doing the anthem...cool as hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3qD1jKNYaU
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Phillies
Victorino,
Utley,
Polanco,
Howard,
Werth,
Rollins,
Francisco,
Ruiz,
Blanton
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Placido Polanco
wouldnt even hit 3rd in Giants\april Lineup.
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn
I was really hoping they would stick with Ibanez.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
The whole "split up the lefties" strategy to combat JLo
reminds me of Avery Johnson changing the Mavericks’ lineup against the Warriors.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Bochy admitted he along w/players received a red thong from Huff. Bochy joked, "don’t think anyone wants to see me in a thong…
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think the goal is to show everyone.
It’s more of a solidarity thing.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Aw, that’s cute.
I know it totally doesn’t matter, but Bruce Bochy is an extremely, over-the-top, ridiculously nice guy. He’s pretty funny, too.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Why wouldn’t that matter? Bochy may cause me to throw things while uttering various bad words from time to time but he seems like he’s a good guy. I can’t remember anyone who has interacted with him saying bad things about him as a person. And he seems to have a great sense of humor about the size of his head, which is a plus. I’m always a fan of people who are able to laugh at themselves.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I just mean, being nice doesn’t make someone good at managing a baseball team. I think it’s a component, though. I’ve interacted with him several times, and he is super nice. Always says hi and asks how I’m doing. And, I’ve seen him do crazy nice things for fans.
And, yes, he definitely laughs at himself. Like that time he got hit in the face with a foul ball, my friend asked him about it and he was like, “Oh, I just needed a wake up call.”
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
I just mean, being nice doesn’t make someone good at managing a baseball team. I think it’s a component, though.
As usual, I completely agree with you. I question Bochy on a lot of things, particular veteran love, but I have a feeling he knows how to tell you something you need to hear as a player in a way that doesn’t make you hate him. So if anything, sometimes he’s too nice, but that’s better than him being a complete asshole.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree. I think the players appreciate that he’s sensitive to their fragile egos. ;)
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Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Hahaha, but they’re manly-men so they wouldn’t say it like that. It’d be “Boch is a good dude”
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never met him
But I’ve heard of any of his players say a bad thing about him…and I’ve READ a ton of positive things about him.
I rememebr his as a player and he seemed like a good guy in a Whiteside kinda way.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/05/SPK31FNJGF.DTL
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My old boss met Bochy at Spring Training
and said he was a great guy.
/heresay
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Cool article.
In my experience Bochy is as down to earth as someone in professional sports can be, and goes out of his way to take care of people. I will always respect him for that, even if he’s got Rowand in the lineup against a right hander today.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
So the Yankees remembered how to hit, huh?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Cliff Lee scheduled to pitch in game 7. I’d like to see him get that start.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That was an accident, but then I just left it because it perfectly described how I felt.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Dammit. I think it’s because I wished him good luck yesterday. That’s always the kiss of death.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You distracted him! he can’t stop thinking about you now!
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
LOL, more like I jinxed him. I doubt major league pitchers are that prone to distraction (at least when they’re getting ready for a game).
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
OH NO!
Texas is gonna have to clinch at home!
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:10 PM PDT reply actions
You can sit next to me for only $155 per seat tonight
Apparently the two seats next to me are on StubHub.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
You have to pay people $155 to sit next to you?
Wow, I din’t think you were that much of an ahole
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
I’d pay people $50 not to sit next to me. THERE IS A 3-FOOT ZONE PEOPLE. Respect it.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
THIS IS A ROBBERY
GIVE ME MONEY ON PAYPAL OR I SHOW UP AND STAND NEAR YOU
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
does Whiteside see the field?
I see the Yankees have the luxury to throw Cervelli out there in a critical game and I thought to myself, whiteside might not even get a inning played this postseason
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions
no
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
no
but Cervelli split a lot of time with Posada this year and the Yanks don’t NEED Posada the way the Giants need Buster.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not true
I’m sure they’ll need a pinch runner soon.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
he can score if it hits the gap
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought this too
I was momentarily baffled…“Whitey’s not that short, is he?”
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Go Whoever Makes it go 7 games.
Giants Front Office....Torture!
by Giant Torture on Oct 20, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Today’s game is extremely important. I’d like to win today and tomorrow to avoid having to go back to Philly for two more
Wayne Rooney is dead to me.
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
Got accused of bandwagoning today
I was wearing my orange-billed cap today (it is the new “lucky” cap, having replaced my spring training-style “G” cap). Some old dude jeered, “Looks like a brand new hat.” I shook my head and smiled. “Oh, you’ve been a Giants fan for a long time, huh?” “Since 1989, man.”
First of all, I bought that hat in a mall in SEATTLE, in 2007, when NOBODY, including even myself, liked the Giants. Secondly, WTF? There’s literally thousands of people in Seattle who wear Red Sox and Yankees gear, and nobody challenges them on their fandom. Who the hell would willingly join the Giants bandwagon if they weren’t hooked as a kid? I don’t have to answer to some old curmudgeon.
As Peggy Olson said, “That’s bullshit.”
by Murray, Present on Oct 20, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
what happened in 2007 again? Was Matt Morris still on the staff? Noah Lowry?
Oh, right, the All-Star Game.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
it was also an excellent year for wine
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a similar expereience at Starbucks
Some guy was talking to his buddy about bandwagon fans, saw me in a Giants shirt, and whispered to his friend – although not very quietly – “like that” and motioned to me.
I got in his face about it and he turned bright red and said “Oh . . . you heard that?”
Yeah, dumbass, I heard you, you said it loudly enough.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
morons
how the fuck can anyone tell whether someone is a bandwagon fan or not just by looking at them?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
New fan smell
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
Excuse you, I smell like flowers. Just ask Dr. Stankus.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
you want us to ask someone named “Dr. Stankus” how you smell?
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
HE'S A DOCTOR
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
HE'S A DOCTOR
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Seriously. We have been there for every torturous inning.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
Depends on where you bite them, really.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
SEATTLE SUCKS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I’m too tired to get upset about this lineup. I’m just disappointed that Joe Blanton is going to throw a 2-hit CG shutout of the Giants tonight.
Howdy-diddily do, neighborinos!! Oh, I tell ya, I don’t feel much like rhymin, but more, like cryin.
I just found out Torres isn’t startin today.
Can Joe Blanton throw a slider in the dirt?
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The NFL just suspended the Yankee Stadium warning track for a "devestating hit."
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
by 49er16 on Oct 20, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
that is gonna be such a wierd rule. i mean, if players are gonna have to be careful when tackling, doesn’t that negate the whole physical aspect of the game? Sometimes it takes a devatating hit to stop a guy from catching a 40 yard pass on 3rd and 20, yknow? Sometimes it takes a big hit to stop a 250 pound Toby Gerhart from smashing through the secondary and into open field.
The advantage clearly goes to the offense, since they are going to be the “helpless” players in any hit scenario. Which hurts defense oriented teams like the Jets, Ravens, etc.
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if they refrain from leading with their helmet, that’ll go a long way.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Show me how you run with your helmet pointed backward
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
there are def players that, stupidly, hit with their helmets. like Merriweather on the Patriots this weekend, two dumb plays are those deserve the suspension. but the Falcons/Eagles I think it was, where the guy was making a catch, got drilled, and both players went down, that wasn’t even helmet to helmet, just a violent collision, yet that’ll get you suspended too.
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I Know rite
It’s like fining a player for having too much awesome on his feet
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Except devastating hits are actually a part of the game.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot of people still think the Giants can't win this series.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
because they havent been watching
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I was listening to Radnich on my drive home today and they had some lady from a Philadelphia news station there and she was whining that she was being obnoxious in the airport (saying Go Phillies! and stuff) and no one was getting on her case about it.
I was sitting there saying, “Uh, maybe they didn’t want to validate your being a total attention whore?”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
No but I could tell he thought she was a moron. Which coming from him is saying a lot.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
i guarantee you he did not word it that way
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Tonight's outcome dictates my attendance at class tomorrow.
Lets go Madbum 7ip 0er
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions
i can live with not having to witness a game 5 2-2 series torture game…. but if the Giants have a chance to clinch the pennant, I have to see it to believe it.
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A
I wish I could read everything said on McC like I used to.
Then again, the only way I’d be able to do that is if the Giants weren’t in the playoffs and I wasn’t in college. Worthwhile sacrifice I have just now come to realize in the last 15 seconds.
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I'll summarize.
Rowand, not Torres.
NEVER ’Frisco
Sandwiches, maybe
Jponry staging massive coup
Owlcroft recovering.
by younghutch on Oct 20, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A beautiful poem
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Don’t forget:
Jponry/kdl on the beach with beer
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
HOW COULD I FORGET
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
These are all topics
I should just fill in the descriptions myself?
"Catch that, Eckstein!" - Duane Kuiper
I’m expecting 10 pages by Friday.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I subscribe to jponry’s newsletter.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
But that one is not a newsletter
it’s a slide show.
Proud Adoptive Parent of Jesus Guzman, RHP. 2010 Line: 0 H, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA. CALL HIM UP!
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
Smell-o-vision.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m putting this up on my fridge.
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, a whole lot of pessimism about the Giants being unable to hit Blanton.
Of course, they haven’t really hit anyone lately, but it hasn’t stopped them winning games.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
Sup?
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 20, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
.195 average with runners on base.
No?
“Lucky with ERA”
Ok.
So now i have to go and I’ll be gone until 6:00. Fuck football practice.
Fun fact: "Mota" is Bengali for "fat".
there is too much awesome in that reply
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
In fuck football, Roethlisburger is the perennial MVP.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
In Soviet Russia
You fuck Ben Roethlisburger
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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
But still without conscent.
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Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
nah
I remember missing the start of game 1 of the 1989 NLCS b/c I was at football practice. I got home right after Will Clark hit the grand slam off Maddux.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I was on an audit of 1 of our distributors in during the 1989 NLCS. My boss looked across the table at my stricken countenance and ordered me back to the hotel to watch the rest of the game.
I walked into my room, switched on the t.v. just in time to see Will Clark smoke the single back up the middle off of Mitch fucking Williams.
Needles to say, I bought all the drinks that night.
Joe Po on Giants, Torture
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1176106/index.htm
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Nice article.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
JoPo is great
Side benefit of making it to the playoffs is getting good baseball writers to write about you.
My Son
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
it also goes the other way too. you get to hear alot of idiots that don’t know the first thing about your team say “this is (enter team)”.
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, lots of crappy ones.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice, though I could do with never hearing about Cody Ross’ rodeo clown aspirations ever again.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
It’s so cute, though. Just picture him in chaps.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I found it funny though when I realized his celebrity doppelganger wears clown makeup on his show on Cartoon Network
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by Prussian Creole on Oct 20, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
CAN I GET AN FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PIC UP IN HERE
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 20, 2010 2:50 PM PDT reply actions
FFFFFFFFFF

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I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Have you guys seen the pic currently up on the Giants' MLB home page?
Classic.
"Mike Laga will make you forget about every power hitter that ever lived." - Sparky Anderson
"You're alright, La Russo." - Johnny Lawrence
All right, all. I’m heading off to class. I’m counting on all of you.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
STAY AWAY FROM THE LAW LIBRARY.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 20, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Safe to say
Due to “Cody Ross”… any Nate Schierholtz appearance is an audition for other teams.
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by iCANwatchMOLINAneverCLEANUPagain on Oct 20, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
A good ballclub . . .
. . . needs four “everyday” outfielders, to give guys regular enough rest that they are sharp down the stretch. Schierholtz has a valid place on this team till such time as someone, say Belt, displaces him (either direct or, more likely, by moving Huff to RF).
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Three Cheers For AngryVagabond
Hooray for FerociousTransient.
Give it up for IncensedDrifter.
Let’s hear it for VexedBeggar…
LOL geez the people who post on the Giants facebook page are idiots
aubrey huff should not bat 3rd. he’s lucky to even be on a team
Pesto is good, but can kill Prussian Creole.
Pickles, mustard and olives are from the devil.
egg cake vs. egg pie – who would win?
Crickets are good luck. Or something.
Somebody likes to romance really old ladies.
None of us are any good at hitting major league pitching.
And there may have been some discussion of why Rowand would play and Torres would not.
That sums it all up, I think.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU
I tweet (more often than I blarg).
we need one of these every 200 posts or so. I can’t even begin to ever go through it all either. My best hope is to jump in early so I don’t get lost
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Gosh darn it anyways
I know this has already been posted upthread somewhere, but I need to bitch at someone. My coworkers in North Carolina sure as hell don’t want to hear it.
MOTHERFUCKING FUCKSHIT. We are back where we started with Diarrhenteria and Blowand in the line-up in the biggest game of the year. How the fuck did this happen?
I know Uribe is hurt, so Diarrhenteria gets a pass. But there is ZERO, I repeat, ZERO reason to start Blowand against a RH pitcher. So fucking stupid.
FUCK. Hopefully, it doesn’t effect the outcome of the game, and maybe Torres would go 0 for 4 again, but the logic behind this decision is so batshit, off-the wall crazy that it really irritates me.
Make me eat my words, Blowand.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
Problem is that if it doesn’t affect the outcome of this game, Bochy will continue to start R & R until it does affect the outcome, and even then he will continue as long as he “likes the way” Rowand has “been swinging the bat”.
Are we really going to see Blowand attempt to hit Roy Oswalt tomorrow night? Has it really come to this? I am still trying to piece together how this is happening.
/mind blown
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 20, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Roy Oswalt
The other Roy is what I meant, point stands regardless…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 20, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Torres tried to come back too fast, and now can’t play because he pushed it (and maybe they pushed it on him). After all, the guy did just have surgery 11 days before he was sliding headfirst and running full-speed again. He’s 32. He left halfway through the first game he came back in.
My money is on Andres doing poorly because he’s not feeling right at all, I mean, he wasn’t even doing follow-through swings anymore. Just slapping at the ball, perhaps an indication he is having trouble twisting his torso.
by giant4life83 on Oct 20, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand over Torres. sigh
Its like one goddamn hit makes him a star – forgot the 3 other AB’s and the year of suck,.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
2 runs, 11 hits?
what the hell? When did the rangers turn into punch and judy?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Wait....
….so you’re suggesting that if you take the decision out of his hands, he’s pretty good at making decisions. Thats a ringing endorsement there pal.
Yeah, I give Bochy huge credit for the MadBum/Zito decision. That is not as easy of a decision as it seems and I think it runs contrary to his general inclination. But he made the right choice, so kudos for that.
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by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Oct 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions
Pre-2010 Bochy
Would have gone with Harris over Vaughn. Not a hell of an idea.
With one out, Ishikawa walked
by WoodardsHRwasfoul on Oct 20, 2010 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

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