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Cody Ross' postseason play has cleared up any non tender speculation

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I DUNNO ABOUT THIS GUY JUST YET

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by Tim LinCyYoung on Oct 17, 2010 11:23 PM PDT reply actions  

A decent idea, especially if you want to go for a 2-year deal. Just backload it like 4/6.5 so the big hit comes once Rowand’s contract is over after 2011.

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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 17, 2010 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate to break it to you, but Rowand’s contract runs through 2012.

by kaliber on Oct 18, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Ross and I’d like to see him back next year. I like Huff and I’d like to see him back next year. I like Burrell and I’d like to see him back next year. I like Uribe and I’d like to see him back next year. The only problem I have with all of these is that none of these guys is likely to have a much better 2011 season than they had in 2010 and while a Torres-Sanchez-Huff-Posey-Burrell-Sandoval-Ross-Uribe lineup is loads better than what we were throwing out at the beginning of this season its still a lineup that is likely going to struggle to score runs pretty often. On the other hand I don’t think the odds of Sabean bringing in Werth or Crawford in addition to bringing most of those other guys back is very likely so I guess I should just be happy with something very similar the current lineup for all of next year.

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by sam23 on Oct 18, 2010 1:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the ideal would be to add a real SS, eventually promote Belt, and bring most of those guys back…

well, the REAL ideal would include Carl Crawford, but I’m not getting my hopes up (he’s practically already wearing pinstripes, IMO)

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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 18, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually don't see Crawford going to NY

I think he’s waiting to cash Arte Moreno’s check

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by Gobroks on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree that the Yanks won’t go hard after Crawford. The BoSox also reportedly lust after Crawford, and the Tigers have a ton of salary that have come off their books and a huge need in the OF. The only reason that I see the Yanks getting into the Crawford bidding is if at the last minute they want to block Boston from signing him.

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by Fla-Giant on Oct 18, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see the Tigers getting Werth

and the Angels jumping on Crawford

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by Gobroks on Oct 18, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

A real SS would be nice. But the FA market for SS is absolutely terrible: so bad, in fact, that i’m not wincing at the idea of renteria being brought back as backup next year. I don’t like the idea…but its ugly out there.

by haverecords on Oct 18, 2010 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like your thinking

I’ve posted that trial balloon myself in previous threads. The Giants will either have to trade for a new SS, hope that Brandon Crawford flips a switch at the plate in ST, or be satisfied with Uribe again next year.

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by Fla-Giant on Oct 18, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doubt he gets non tendered

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by Gobroks on Oct 18, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The difference between all those guys and Cody Ross? Ross is still under team control – we don’t have to compete with other teams for his services, and if we want him, he doesn’t have the choice of leaving.

by Missing Barry on Oct 18, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

But what BS is inplying is that he will tender Ross a multi-year contract that takes him past his last arb season. Let’s hope that BS doens’t go all Rowand on us and sign Ross to a 3+ year deal at a huge increase in salary. Ross is a nice complementary player and 4th OF, but I wouldn’t want to rely on him as a starter for a whole season.

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by Fla-Giant on Oct 18, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?

He’s like a better version of Jose Cruz Jr. I’ll take that any day.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 18, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

whoa

Does Ross play Cruz’s level of defense (outside of one play where I blacked out)? I haven’t seen that yet. Cruz was pretty nifty up til the playoffs for us.

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by howcanilose on Oct 18, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I’d call him a better version. I’m not even sure I’d put them on the same level just yet.

by chilibean_3 on Oct 19, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

4th OF? The dude is a real starter. He’s an above average hitter by a bit, and an average CF/above average COF. That’s not a 4th OF.

by Missing Barry on Oct 18, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has extremely pronounced splits

and really is best suit as a platoon against LHP in RF and backup CF, so he plays 3 out of 5 days.

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by jctGamer on Oct 18, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I meant when I wrote “4th outfielder” – let’s face it, Ross couldn’t even hold down his starting spot in the Marlins’ OF this year and they weren’t blessed with all star-caliber starters there, with the exception of Mike Stanton when he was finally promoted in July.

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by Fla-Giant on Oct 18, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has pronounced splits, but he’s no Freddy Sanchez. At least most seasons.

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by Bhaakon on Oct 18, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why backup CF? And why do pronounced splits make him a worse player? He has a 109 career wRC+, and that’s not against a skewed distribution of R/L. How do you make the case a good fielding OF (average CF/good COF) and above average hitter is somehow not worthy of a starting spot?

by Missing Barry on Oct 18, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope

That Ross being tendered a contract didn’t depend on his postseason play. A perennial 20+ HR bat is worth $6M or so, and considering some people (MLBTR) were suggesting he might be non-tendered scares me as to the FO’s reasoning.

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by quincy0191 on Oct 18, 2010 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

NO!

4th outfielder at best.

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by Alex_Lewis on Oct 18, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since he’s under team control/arb eligible, I don’t see why his postseason play should matter much.

by Missing Barry on Oct 18, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will

You don’t non-tender a guy so beloved now by the fans and the local media – that’s just bad business.

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by GiantPain on Oct 18, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He shouldn’t be non-tendered regardless of his postseason play.

by Missing Barry on Oct 19, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he should get a multi year deal

That buys out this last arb year. Something like 3 years, 16 million seems fair for both sides.

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by GiantPain on Oct 18, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a test

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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 19, 2010 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

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