Why I'm stupid enough to think the Giants have a shot
Stat of the week. Nay, year:
Against the Giants in 2010:
Roy Halladay - 0-1, 6.43 ERA
Cole Hamels - 0-1, 7.36 ERA
Roy Oswalt - 1-3, 3.33 ERA
A-ha! A-HA! These so-called "aces" are a bunch of FRAUDS. Why, even the Giants can hit them! Prediction: The Giants win the series four games to one, with the lone loss coming against Joe Blanton, who actually beat them this year. The Giants will score 41 runs to the Phillies’ 2. I mean, just look at how terrible those numbers are up there.
...
Is that what anyone really thinks? Does anyone really think that a sample size of one, two, or three games is worth anything? Of course not. But a small sample size is exactly what the playoffs are. Anything can happen in a stretch of one, two, or three games. Baseball is a hummingbird on cocaine, and we’re just fans trying to catch it with a lasso made out of dental floss. Keep trying to predict what’s going to happen. Keep trying. The second you think you have Tim Lincecum figured out, he has an August that would make Todd Wellemeyer wrinkle his nose in disgust. As soon as you’ve written off a young pitcher who struggles like few have ever struggled, he goes all the way back to A-ball and eventually emerges as one of the best pitchers to ever play the game1.
That’s just big picture stuff, though. In the sample size of a few games, absolutely anything can happen. And the playoffs are groups of small sample sizes getting together, having a few drinks, and playing "Truth or Dare" until someone does something they regret. It’s the kind of sordid situation that can lead to Roy Halladay giving up a two-run base hit to a guy who has a wrist filled with oatmeal. It’s the kind of thing that can lead to one of the better pitchers in the National League giving up seven earned runs to the Nationals. Baseball is stupid, illogical, and beautiful. And stupid. Also, illogical. At times, beautiful.
So this is me, mooning the people who say the Giants don’t have a shot. This game is too arrogant to reveal its secrets. And I realize this cuts both ways -- after all of the talk about the Giants’ vaunted rotation, it wouldn’t be completely outlandish to watch the top three combine for 15 walks in 15 painful innings. Unlikely? Sure. Front-page-of-the-New-York-Times-crazy? Nah. It’s baseball. So I’m not going to pretend that I know what’s going to happen. I’ll root, swear, and scream at every eventful inning as if I can influence the results, but I’m not going to pretend that there’s order in these parts. It’s anarchy. Grab a beer, throw a chair through a window, watch a few innings, and take what you need.
In closing, I would just like to say one thing. Jeff Weaver. I’ll watch these games expecting the Giants to win, even if only because of random, lucky fluke-sprinkled games of chance, thank you very much. And I don’t think it’s really necessary to think like that right now. This is a pretty danged good team. A frustrating, torturous, yet sorta good team. A team that could beat the Phillies 45 times out of 100.
Good night. Good morning. And Posey bless.
1The English nerd in me likes to think that one of his A-ball coaches was Ozzie Virgil, Jr.
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No. I was trying to satirize that notion a little bit.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 15, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not required
But it probably helps.
Exhibit A: the Padres, non-September division?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Oct 15, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
i'll take my luck
along with a dominant pitching staff any day
No fluke. And only the mildest of upsets, if it’s an upset at all.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 15, 2010 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions
We're a ticking time bomb. And Charlie Manuel just clipped the wrong wire.
You know how we’d go two weeks losing a bunch of 2-1, 1-0 games and then drop a 14-spot on somebody? We are so due for one of our Unexplainable Eruptions of Runs. Giants by a touchdown.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
And then the next day after that explosion, the Giants will be shut out.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
If that sequence of events were to happen tomorrow and sunday, I would be okay with that.
GITP:: Rowand The Renteria Game Logs!
by coolandtough on Oct 15, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
A fluke worm
Give the Phillies some bad pork chops. Restaurants of San Francisco, unite!
by Murray, Present on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Good morning!
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t think the matchup is as lopsided as the media is saying it is. What worries me more than anything is the Phillies’ home-field advantage.
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder." -Zinedine Zidane
"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
they did just take 2 o2 on the road against ATL
that might be a point of confidence actually
Then they should give that oxygen back immediately!
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 15, 2010 2:33 AM PDT up reply actions
No way. They will have CO2 and like it!!!!
Proud parent of Bengie Molina: Buster who?
by The Enchanter on Oct 15, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
/eyes sweep the room furtively as he tries to keep his NO2 stash a secret.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
/realizes he’s succeeded in distracting everyone with his fake NO2 stash and retreats to his N2O-laden lair.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
is that your office?
or a hospital?
Thank you Steven Revetria, General Manager, for the 2010 San Francisco Giants !
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Living in NYC....
There is nothing more refreshing than waking up in the middle of the night to another brilliant Grant post….Giants in 5 baby!!!!!
Buy High,Sell Lower- The Brian Sabean methodology to Running (Ruining) the Giants
by Mordy From Monsey on Oct 15, 2010 12:16 AM PDT reply actions
That Halladay game was weird
80% of our runs were driven in by DeRosa & Whiteside.
Nate AND Bowker started…weird
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 15, 2010 12:21 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
An expensive dinged up bird
Buy High,Sell Lower- The Brian Sabean methodology to Running (Ruining) the Giants
by Mordy From Monsey on Oct 15, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
An un-calm tendon
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
by Gobroks on Oct 15, 2010 12:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Next year’s starting third baseman for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I’m not joking. I think Burrell’s going to be too expensive to resign, so the club will make every effort to keep Huff and give him left field, moving Sandoval to first base where his range is less of an issue.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 15, 2010 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Good Mornin’. Goin to work early so I can get off early… big weekend ahead :)
Pat will be re-signed. He wants to finish his career with his hometown team.
That, and be with Aubrey :)
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. I don’t see a big market emerging for Pat the 34 year old Bat. The big market teams won’t be interested, and the Giants will have no problem financially competing with the others.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 15, 2010 5:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
2 yrs/$18M?
With the same for Huff, maybe?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s way too much for Burrell and probably too much for Huff, as well.
Then again, you would never go broke betting on the stupidity of MLB GMs/owners, so who knows.
Thing C
I think he'll attract other bidders too
It will be interesting to see if any other AL team thinks to try Burrell at DH again.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I would give Burrell a 2/15 deal (at max) but would try and get him on a one year deal for more annual dollars. Say 1/8.5 max
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed
but Huff is worth more than Burrell, I think, and how much of a pay cut will Burrell take in the first place? Or how much will the Giants make him take? They paid Molina $6M to come back.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see what one has to do with the other. Molina has his drawbacks for sure, but he’s a league average catcher, and those cost money. Burrell is a 34 year old who put up just over half a good season after being awful for a year and a half, and he’s not exactly a pro with the glove, either.
Thing C
league average catchers
did not cost that last year. Zaun and Olivo were $2.5. Yorvit was $1.25. Barajas was .5.
I’m not arguing Burrell is worth $9M, just wondering how much of a pay cut the Giants will make him take.
I think they’re going to feel pressure to keep this team together, and that will limit pay cuts they will impose.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, so $6m is too much for Molina. I think we all knew that already.
What does that have to do with Burrell again?
Thing C
or
not really cram down a pay cut when they have the opportunity.
I am hopeful Steven Revetria will take care of this too.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I can understand the point, but the Giants this offseason will be in a completely different place from last offseason. I’m not sure it’s comparable at all.
Thing C
what do you mean?
Success breeds success? Hitters won’t be “afraid” to come to AT&T? Or something else?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I just mean that the team is different and the mood is different, so what they paid Bengie Molina last offseason is barely relevant to what happens this offseason.
Thing C
I hope so
but do you mean the “mood” will make them pay less for Burrell? Or that they can attract someone else for the same price?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
There won’t be the air of desperation that there was last offseason. Also, having had a successful season will make it a little easier to bring players here. The front office won’t feel desperate to make a splash to placate the fan base. These are all minor issues, of course, but they factor into what will happen this offseason.
Thing C
fair enough
So they’ll play Burrell off against others? That would be a nice change.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Burrell will come back, but ultimately corner outfielders who can’t field are pretty common. There’s no reason to bend over backwards if he’s being a hardass.
But I don’t see many other teams offering him much. He makes sense as a DH but I bet his failures in Tampa Bay make him unpalatable to most AL teams. They’re tending to use their DH spots for odd bench guys or to give players half-days rests, and not as much for aging no-field sluggers like Burrell.
Thing C
Burrell said he'd like to come back even as a part time player
Which isn’t something you see a lot of prospective FA’s say, ever. I think he likes it here and wants to come back. But we’ll probably have to bring him and Huff back for them both to be happy.
Burrell said he’d like to come back even as a part time player
Dude’s back home, he’s having fun and he’s playing with his college bud. He seems to have enough money, now he just wants to play ball.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
I’m in this line. Burrell is home and happy. Huff, well, he’s said a million times he loves the Bay and hates the East, having the time of his life, etc and now with Burrell on the team, I don’t think there’s anything more he really wants. He hadn’t ever been to the playoffs before SF, so it’s doubtful he’s gonna jump ship for say, PHI or something
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Prediction
I think you guys are overvaluing good years from people who were complete shit the year before.
If you look at Huff and Burrell’s 2 year averages for 09 and 10, they’re average-to-below-average players. That’ll hurt them.
My evidence? Look at Uribe. He had a good year for us last year and though he could parlay that into a 2 year offer somewhere. He couldn’t, and he came back to us for 1 year and 3 million.
If you look at their one-year averages, they’re very good. If you look at their two-year averages, they suck. If you look at their three-year averages, they’re back to being pretty good.
I could easily see Burrell having to settle for a cheap one-year deal, but Huff’s in a different category.
Right
Hence why I think he’ll get 2/12
The thing is though, there will be a lot of competition at the 1B market. Teams looking for a Huff-type could also go for Berkman, Russ Branyan, Zombie Nick Johnson, or Adam LaRoche, or Derrek Lee.
Or if you want to go higher end, you could get Dunn, or Konerko, or Carlos Pena.
The market doesn’t favor Huff, and if he likes playing in SF, 2/12 would be a fair deal for him.
That's the thing
Huff ISN’T like those guys you listed. Assuming other teams saw him, they know he can play in the OF or at 1B.
The Yankees might like him to DH, for instance, if they use Montero to catch for a couple years.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Yankees have too many old players who they need to cycle through the DH slot
To go out and acquire someone else.
And I KNOW that Huff isn’t like those guys I listed. THOSE guys will get one year deals like the ones Johnson and Branyan signed last offseason. Huff is better than those guys – which is why he’ll probably get a two year deal for somewhere around 12.
they'll run Texieira at 1B again
and A-Rod at 3B again, at least next year. Huff’s probably as good as Swisher in the OF. NJohnson was signed for that slot and there’s not really been a replacement.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Huff’s probably as good as Swisher in the OF
Um. What?
And Posada cannot catch full time anymore. He’ll need the DH slot. And ARod and Jeter will be a year older and that much less mobile – they’ll need the DH slot.
not to mention Huff hates the East Coast, all Yankees/Red Sox all the time. He even went on the radio saying how much the area sucked when he played in BAL.
My money is on him coming back to SF for 2/16.
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a silly time to be talking about this...
But oh what the hell.
Here’s what I’d like: Sign each player for one year with an option for a second, and give Huff slightly more than Burrell by merit of being more versatile. If Brandon Belt pans out, he’ll end up taking over first base, and there’s only room for one of Huff and Burrell. If one of them doesn’t produce, pick up the option on the other. If Brandon does flop, at least you can keep both around for a second year while panic starts to set in.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
Burrell might go for that, but I don’t think Huff will have to settle for a contract like that. I do think something like 2/12 or 2/14 could get him to re-sign though
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"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Old habits die hard
last year few years at this time, we were all 2 weeks into our off season rosterbating
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
yeah
it’s this trophy with a bunch of flags on it.
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Who knew
“forever” meant “2 years plus a team option”?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, before the Giants consider resigning Burrell, I think they should make a push for Werth or Crawford. I like Pat and his bat, but the Giants should try to upgrade. If they could swing Werth and Burrell, that’d be super-sweet-awesome to me.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
LF Burrell
CF Torres
RF Werth
Burrell’s contract will be small – it won’t come into play in terms of Werth, I don’t think.
Also, if Torres gets hurt – ALL PHILLY OUTFIELD.
But the experience!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Cast offs is too strong
Philly should regret signing Ibanez to that contract when they could have retained Burrell.
And they’d love to have Werth back, I’m sure – they just can’t afford him with all the other $ they’ve committed.
Rowand… yeah, I guess he’s a cast-off. Though they did try to re-sign him before we went way over their offer.
I know it’s wrong to rosterbate like this right now, but it just feels soooo good…
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Behave!

"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
That’s her O face
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
How does anybody know this?
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
/that’s the joke
:-)
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Oh….
/quietly goes away to cry in the shower in the fetal position
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Awww…yeah!
I’m just saying that because she would be so shocked and appalled that I said it.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I rosterbated last night
I need to come clean and just admit it
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Stupid Rowand. I want Cody Ross to stay.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I'm sure he'll be here
But I’m much more comfortable with Ross as the backup OF who gets starts against lefties than Ross the everyday RF.
Nate the tradeBate
I had high hopes, but he just isn’t a major league hitter, doesn’t have a major league swing, and his speed and arm are not sufficiently great to keep him as opposed to a Ross.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
wow
It’s been a long, long time since that could be said about this team. Well, actually since Ross joined the team I guess. Maybe Steven Revetria can work his magic again.
I like Nate and Travis both and will continue wondering what would have happened with another half-season or so of playing time/wishing they had better results. I’d rather have Nate than Rowand but sadly that’s not the choice.
I’m glad they’re on the squad for the rest of the year and hope they can get a little time here and there in the rest of the postseason. I noticed Ishikawa drawing a walk and scoring the tying run in Game 3, and saving the last out of Game 4 in Atlanta, even if nobody else remembers.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Trav has been good in his limited time. Nate was actually pretty good as a PH this year too.
And there’s probably actually room for nate here next year, unless we trade for or sign an OF, in which case nate would become superfluous as Cody would take his spot.
Stats aside
I would find it harder to like the team with Werth on it. Even if he did shave once in a while.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Can’t put my finger on it. Maybe someone who looks like him scared me when I was a baby.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s the Dodger stench… or maybe the unnecessary Y.
"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
Free AnVil!
He was going to, but his parents Nix’d that plan.
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
“Bring Your Own Barry Bonds”
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He has the reputation of being an ass.
There was that whole thing with the Philly fan who interfered with him catching a foul ball and he flipped out, not to mention isn’t too kind to the media.
That said, his attitude stems, I think, from a strong competitive drive that would probably be a good influence on the Giants. I doubt he’d cause problems so long as the team was doing well. Doesn’t strike me as a Pierzynski type egomaniac.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
I think he has much more of a media problem than an atitude problem
IIRC, he isn’t the kind of guy who sticks around and answers a lot of questions, so the media doesn’t really like him all that much. I think he ended up apologizing to that fan too, FWIW.
But at the end of the day, the guy hits well, defends well, and runs well.
Yeah, that's the bottom line.
I think he’d have a real positive presence on the Giants, a potential “clubhouse leader.”
A part of me is hoping he hits really well at ATT but the Phillies still lose the series, and he’ll consider jumping ship and staying in the NL.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
Sandoval's range
The range issue of Sandoval should be mitigated by the effect his panniculus causes on the fabric of space-time, causing balls to veer him as they pass near the warped space in his vicinity. This also slows the passage of time, making it easier for him to reach those batted balls.
He’s got a plan, dude.
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
HEY. He is OUR fat player and we can make fun of him!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
The glory of fat infielders not at first base belongs to all of baseball fandom. Sorry. If only we had a truly fat shortstop somewhere to wonder at…
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
You have a center fielder with a rectum for a face, so there’s that.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouO4vAG-mJI
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I am going to click that link.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point...
If Sandoval can’t play third base he shouldn’t be in the lineup. He’d be the worst regular first baseman in baseball if he hit like he did this season.
Pedro. Feliz.
He actually had regular at bats at first this year. No, really.
☸ Do not take the finger for the moon. ☸
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
We all had regular at bats this year
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Grant, do you really have to post at midnight EVERY NIGHT?
And it’s obvious you plan this….why? is the question…
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/sfo
One post says October 14. One says October 15. I get a post up shortly after I finish it, and it allows me to spend time with my daughter tomorrow morning without stressing about posting something in the morning.
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 15, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Right.
Seriously though, I’m impressed that someone has actually kept their priorities straight during this run.
I’ve been running on fumes the last month or so.
no, really.
it’s the drugs.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 15, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Grant is a blogger who lives in his mom's basement.
When he talks about spending time with his daughter he is talking about spending the morning with Mary Jane.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
My son hasn't been heard from in three weeks.
I’m not going to worry about it or file a police report until the Giants are eliminated or win the WS
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
when you’ve got a clearly laid out plan, there’s not need to go fussing about with the untangibles beyond your control.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
You take drugs Danny?
Every day.
Goooood.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
don't worry
It’s a reasonable hour in Bangladesh.
Thank you Steven Revetria, General Manager, for the 2010 San Francisco Giants !
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Please just start the games
All playoff coverage would be greatly improved if it took this view.
An hour-long playoff preview on MLB Network starts with the host saying “All the teams are good, and baseball is weird, so who knows?” Then he shrugs, and stares directly into the camera, without blinking, for the remaining 59 minutes (with occasional commercial breaks).
The front-page story on the ESPN website promises an in-depth look at the MLB playoff picture. The article opens with “All the teams are good, and baseball is weird, so who knows?” followed by white space that fills the rest of the screen, and is continued across six Web pages.
The headline on the sports section of the newspaper reads “Playoffs: All teams good, baseball weird; who knows?” The rest of the space that would normally be taken up by the article is sold as ad space for a movie about a vampire who is elected to public office (it’s a metaphor; 79% on Rotten Tomatoes).
The gap between the series is far too long these days. It’s all timed for max TV audiences.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 15, 2010 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I like MLB Network
but that LCS preview show was not too good. They reviewed the season series between the LCS teams, and each time said “well, you can’t really tell anything from these games”. Then why do I have to watch Billy Ripken?
And their “top 10 moments of the DSs” was pretty bad too.
Thank you Steven Revetria, General Manager, for the 2010 San Francisco Giants !
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Then why do I have to watch Billy Ripken Fuck Face?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 15, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I've turned off media coverage to the playoffs
I don’t watch the pre-game, post-game (well, except for watching the Giants celebrate after beating the Braves), ‘expert’ analysis, pundits, or former players blah blah their way for 20 minutes of air time. I don’t read the local columnists, reporters, or so-called insiders. It’s all just a bundle of crap we all know or can summarize in one of the hundreds of baseball cliches.
I only follow Grant because he offers a refreshing & original point of view that one can only get by following the team on a day-to-day basis. And of course he’s kind of witty & knows what he’s talking about (SO BAD I CAN TASTE IT!). The MCC commentors give me more detailed analysis than anything on television or in print. I do need to remind myself of the other bloggers here & what good work they do on their own sites.
So thank you Grant & MCC, you’re my Playoff Preview.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
I’ve turned off media coverage to the playoffs
I have to agree ResDog. The MSM sports media and it’s"expert analysts" are just “rosterbating” and “especulating” all over my TV, my web pages, and my newspapers each day. I’m tired of it. Here on McC, I can pick and choose what I want read about and ask questions that will get answered.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
LOL.
In the infectious disease world MSM has a very different meaning.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
/ googles MSM+infectious diseases....
Yeah…I should stop using that acronym. On the flip side the chemists here probably think I’m talking about Methylsulfonylmethane.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
I'm with you guys on this . . .
. . . I’ve taken a complete vacation from sports shows since Monday. I’ll watch Yanks/Rangers tonight casually and nothing at all until 5 pm tomorrow.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
The clincher for me
was hearing Kevin Millar singing a Foreigner tune on the MLB Network.
That was it…History Channel, here I come.
GET ME SO COCAINE SO I CAN SLEEP, DAMMIT
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the long lay off. It allows me to savor being one of the final four for almost a whole week before the tension starts again.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 15, 2010 5:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
this
it’s really allowed the incomprehensible to sink in. And more time to enjoy watching national media types introduce us to the Giants. Like Steven Revetria, and Andy Towers who can’t steal bases…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Zito only gave up 4 runs against the Phillies, he should start!
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on Oct 15, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions
And the playoffs are groups of small sample sizes getting together, having a few drinks, and playing “Truth or Dare” until someone does something they regret.
Grant, this is why I read this site.
Pinstripe Alley used to have a writer who would throw in these sorts of crazy analogies. Then they replaced her with a guy who makes awkward attempts at jokes, then explains why he thinks they’re funny. He also makes, like, six main-page posts per day. sigh
But yes. Last year, the Nationals took two out of three in an interleague series against the Yankees. The Phillies, on the whole, are probably a better team than the Giants. But that doesn’t mean they’re going to win. Small sample size is the reason we actually play these games.
Baseball is a hummingbird on cocaine, and we’re just fans trying to catch it with a lasso made out of dental floss.
Awesome.
.277/.399/.518 out of a shortstop?!
Keep on, keepin' on, Ryan Cavan
So does Dock Ellis.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone posted this in reference to Doc’s most memorable outting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUhSYLRw14&feature=playerembedded
What’s cool is, in the comments, someone says:
# luciusmagister 4 days ago:
Tim Lincecum has to throw one of these.
Playoff baseball is fun. We should do this more often.
At any rate . . .
. . . the point is certainly correct. The Phillies may be slightly the better team overall, but certainly not by any such margin as to make the contest lopsided. Indeed, baseball is a game of nice measurements, requiring 162 games to sort out who’s who and what’s what, and even then often doing it only by a hair.
Taking a very, very rough and crude look at by how much each team’s stat lines for offense and defense varied from expectations, and then at how actual runs scored and allowed varied from the stat-line projections, then at games-won projections from runs, I’d guess—and the analysis was so crude that it’s not much but a guess—that the likeliest outcome is the Phils in 7 games. But a 4-3 margin is so dicey that in effect we’re saying “anything can happen, and none of it will be anything that can be called a real surprise.”
(The look was rough and crude because it was at the team level, making no allowance for individual players likely to appear.)
Sabean delenda est!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I’m pretty sure that 4-3 games is the most likely result in any 7-game series, assuming it’s not the Pirates against the Yankees.
The Pirates, Deep-Backs, Senators, Royals, Orioles and Mariners should all be in the post-season right now. In a relegation series.
Seriously, add 6 teams and have the NL, AL and USL (u suxorz league). 3 4-team divisions in the two senior leagues, 2 6-team divisions (one NL, one AL) in the “development” league. Winner of each dev league gets automatic promotion.The two second place teams join the three from their league in a 4-way tournament. Winners and 2nd place goes or stays up, 2 losers go down.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
"You never wake up the baby." - E. Renteria, 01 August 2010
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 15, 2010 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions
relegation/promotion would be cool
But why do that when you can just expand to four four team divisions per league, and let 16 teams into the playoffs. If it works for college basketball, it will work for baseball.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Basketball is played indoors.
Adding yet another week and a half to the postseason would give a whole new meaning to “winter ball”.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
sarchasm
but I do think “everybody wins” will just get worse, one way or another.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, but promotion/relegation is kind of the opposite of “everybody wins”. Which, admittedly, is one of the reasons it’ll never happen.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
my bad
that’s pretty much what I intended, but shifted from agreement to snarkasm too quickly.
And p/r would be an backassward way to get to making pennant races again, but I’d still take it over a 32-team tournament.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Geeky maths pedant point
7 game series is never more likely than 6 game series, assuming each team chances of winnings don’t change much game to game (which may not be the case is teams don’t match up their #1 vs #1 etc). The only time 7 games is the most likely outcome is if two roughly equal teams alternate being significant favourites, i.e. Team A has a better #1, Team B has a better #2, etc.
Similarly, if you think that the Phils have any edge on the Giants, then “Phils in 6” is a better guess than “Phils in 7”.
Having said that, the no matter what the situation, there’s very little difference in the probabilities of the series going 5, 6 or 7 games, no matter how you weight the teams in each game. Any journalist (and basically, this is most of them) who proudly predicts “the series will go 7”, and then argues against somebody who disagrees is an idiot.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 15, 2010 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions
how can you think that clearly this early in the morning? im having a hard time just staying awake waiting on my coffee
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s a little trick I use: I live eight time zones to the East.
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 15, 2010 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I ain’t gettin’ on no time machine….
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’m pretty sure this means you are a communist and it’s my duty to report you.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to give much away
But I will say it was torture
by sarf_london_niner on Oct 16, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
hmmmmm
what comes to mind when i think of philles? mac charlie dennis dee frank coffe girl ricity cricket and cheesesteak.
what comes to mid when i think of giants? huff posey burell timmy, what do they all have in common you ask? perfect 11’s
advantage:giants
yes i know i do not make any sense at all
when i think of the Philles, I think of that “its always sunny” episode where Mac writes Utley the love letter
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I love your hair
And you are really fast. Did you have issues with your father too?
"A lot of swearing, a lot of screaming – and a lot of alcohol."
-Tim Lincecum on the playoffs
So, you’re telling me you dont know who Von Hayes is?
AKA: Dill the Thrill
by Remember1989 on Oct 15, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t throw as hard as you, but I think you would be impressed with my speed.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Do you guys know who the Chron is sending to Philly?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Team success is great
but it’s really horrible when all these “experts” start talking about a team they haven’t written about much.
Let’s not forget to blame the local handegg club either. They are driving the columnists before them, hearing the wailing of their Slussers and Knapps.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
but honestly...
how is the Giants going to win when they start Zito in game 1 and Wellemeyer in game 2..
John Shea is alright.
I wish Scott Ostler wrote about the Giants more. He’s a smart fellow and a good writer.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
Is that what anyone really thinks? Does anyone really think that a sample size of one, two, or three games is worth anything?
Yes. Many, many, many people.
Yes. Especially some fans in philly. But only when it favors their view point.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Meh, it has nothing to do with the city
Just a day ago Baggs used the fact that Sanchez beat the Phillies in Philadelphia earlier in the season as an argument for starting him before Cain.
Yeah, I know. But since I live in Philly I use it as an example. Its a pretty prevalent thing everywhere.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions
The local media in Philly has been insufferable this week. I can’t listen to sportstalk radio. My wife and all of my friends and coworkers are Phillies fans, so it’s been a pretty ridiculous week waiting for this thing to start. I keep saying “Giants in 6,” and they keep giving me that look like they want to pat me on the head for being so cute and naive.
Go Giants. Phuck ’em.
I’ve been putting off buying a bright orange jersey. Finally got one and wore it while I walked my dogs. Got a few boo’s along the way.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Living in this general area my entire life, by far the thing I hear most is, “You’re a Giants fan? Why?”
I expect to be asked that at a head-detonating pace over the next week or so.
You are going to have such a good time
If the Giants pull it off.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
To be fair, that is a pertinent question.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It definitely is, and I’m not complaining at all, because it gives me a chance to tell everyone how my dad loved Willie Mays as a kid, and latched onto Mays and the Giants after the Phillies collapsed and blew the pennant in ‘64, thus leading to my becoming a Giants fan raised in rural Pennsylvania. My wife and I are expecting our first child, a son, in March, and I can’t wait to pass this “torture” down to him.
The local media in Phillyhasbeenis insufferablethisweek.
Fixed.
☸ Do not take the finger for the moon. ☸
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, this. Fox is horrible, CBS well yeah that station is straight fucked up with the anchor drama. NBC is OK. The Fanatic is horrible and WIP is the worst.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Anchor drama is fucking awesome
You couldn’t even make up the kind of shit that has gone down with the local anchors here in Philadelphia. I mean, seriously. There’s the one chick who was in NYC and slapped around a cop and pulled the “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?” schtick, and then there was the anchor who was stalking the one girl on the news crew, and got her email account information, was reading through it all and leaking to her husband about a possible affair between her and a former pro football player or something…
Seriously, it’s so awesome.
by JamesFromPhilly on Oct 15, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Prophecy?
My dog’s had stomach problems all week, and she just pooped a bright, orange turd.
by sakbaum on Oct 15, 2010 4:29 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
The Giants have a chance because their starting pitching is just as good as Philadelphia’s. Oh, and the offense isn’t as inferior as everyone thinks. Oh, and and because I said so and I’m like smart and stuff.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
For Game 1?

/HT troymccluresf
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Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 6:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice!
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe add periods to “R.O.Y.” to distinguish is better from the name “Roy.” A lot of people (and cameras) will see this from a distance. Whatever you can to to visually distinguish the two will help. And Phillie fans might not automatically associate Posey with the R.O.Y., so just having the orange 28 there might not be enough.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
?

Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I still kinda like the letters on top of the numbers, and I imagine it would make for an easier sign to carry. (Not that you have to impress me.)
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
The comedian in me is actually thinking about having the > be rotatable and if Posey strikes out I can pass the sign to my Phillie fan friend and he can rotate it.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh. That is funny.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
This isn't like years past.
Last year, we were completely out classed by the Phillies.
Last year, we had one player at one position who was better than his Philly equivalent.
Last year, Bengie Molina hit cleanup.
And last year, we took the season series with Philadelphia 4-3.
We can stand toe to toe with this Philly team. They have TWO players that are significantly better than their Giants counterparts. That’s it. Two. And we have the pitchers who can take them.
There is no reason to believe we can’t beat this Philly team. We have in the past, we’ve played good baseball all year. This is our time. Theirs is over. Let’s do this.
Take heart! When the Giants start a lefthander, the Phillies will be batting Bengie Molina at cleanup this year!:
2009 SFG Molina OPS: .727
2010 RyHo OPS v LH SP: .729 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=howarry01&year=2010&t=b)
I’m guessing this is going to be a pitching-dominated, close series. I fear the underbelly of the PHI bullpen will be the deciding factor. Unfortunately, that does not bode well for my fanboiness.
☸ Do not take the finger for the moon. ☸
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Hello!
Phillies fan here, gonna try not to offend anybody.
First things first, trying to break it down position by position is an absolute exercise in futility. Our 2b is better than yours! Your LF is better than ours! It’s truly inconsequential nonsense, as I’m sure many of you know.
There is very little to separate the teams, though home field might make all the difference (maybe not!). The Phils always win game 1, home or road. Nothing indicates Lincecum can’t throw a CG SO Saturday. You never know!
The only thing that can really separate the teams is experience. If you look back to some stories from 2008, the Phillies fans really had the Rays rattled when they came to Philly for games 3-5. The Rays had to leave their families at home for some of those games out of fear. Now, is that good, appropriate fan behavior? Not even a little bit. However, when you are trying to win a WS, I’d rather have my players worried about baseball, not family affairs.
If the Giants can stay composed during the big moments, it will say a lot about their team. Every pitch is magnified, the crowd gets loud, and emotions run high. I trust the Phillies infinitely more right now to handle these type of situations. It’s not science, it’s just experience. Right now the Phillies and Giants have pitching staffs 1 and 1a remaining in the playoffs. If the Giants can keep it together and get past the Phillies, it will show a lot about their team and their ability to play through adversity.
As a Phillies fan, I can tell you what has happened a lot over the past three years that is not going to make you feel any better about the series. Every team that makes it into the playoffs is good. The Giants woe-is-me act isn’t really compelling – people know you guys are good. The Phillies just always seem to handle the one or two big moments in every series to win the game they shouldn’t and absolutely deflate the opponent. It happened in the 2008 CS, 2009 DS, 2009 CS, and last series. It doesn’t make the Phillies the better team, but they keep getting that one big game.
I hope some of this was useful and non-offensive. Good luck folks.
Why is it wrong? Because the post didn’t include sabremetrics to prove every little statement? Would using sabremetrics make everything 100% right?
It's not that it didn't include sabermetrics..
It’s that it didn’t include any, you know, provable statements or facts. We like facts here. We like numbers.
Sounds like a phrase that would follow “Dude, that’s” …
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Well-played, taliesin
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this the playoff experience we have been hearing so much about?
The only thing that can really separate the teams is experience. If you look back to some stories from 2008, the Phillies fans really had the Rays rattled when they came to Philly for games 3-5. The Rays had to leave their families at home for some of those games out of fear.
If so, I agree because I don’t think the Giants would do that well if they had to fly to Kabul and play the Kabul Kabulites in Afghanistan.
More?
This is actually a new tidbit. The Philadelphia fans threaten the families of the players? This is typical?
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
They were just scared of being vomited on.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Counterpoint
The Rays, a franchise that had never before made the playoffs and fielded a team made largely of players who had never been to the playoffs, made it to the World Series. Boom.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Damn. I knew I was missing something. The whole experience thing is very similar to “clubhouse” chemistry. Sure, it’s nice, I guess, but what’s the actual effect? How do you quantify it? At what point does it make up for a talent discrepancy? Does it actually lead to wins?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You mean the Kabul Kabullies.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
allow me
Feh – playoff experience.
Doesn’t help the Angels or the Twins every year.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Didn’t help the Yankees for almost an entire decade.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
I have this crazy theory that being ridiculously good is the best (but not foolproof) way to win a playoff series.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
You are talking nonsense
next…you will tell us that scoring more runs than the other team in 9 inning is a good thing
The Giants' GM agrees:
@RevetriaFauxRea The team I put together is in the NLCS! Yesterday I told our guys to score more runs than the other team. When they do that, they’ll win!
@RevetriaFauxRea This won’t be a cakewalk, Philly! U have 2 earn it. Like I never say: “In life, there’s no such thing as a free mustache ride.” #SFGiants
Yea, because I summed it up that playoff experience = winning. The point was that every series has huge moments, and teams seem to handle it differently. Broxton imploded twice. The Reds lost the ability to field the ball. Maybe that’s just baseball and it happens at odd times. I’d say experience HELPS one handle these moments. It’s just my two cents. I didn’t mean to offend the entire sabremetrics world.
I think part of the sensitivity
is that we read lots and lots of lectures before the Braves series about how all their Derek Lowes and Tim Hudsons gave them the experience to put them over the top, and how Barry Zito’s playoff experience meant he should be starting a game. I seem to remember reading the same junk about Tejada, Eckstein, and so on before the final series of the regular season.
So, since that was all totally wrong, it’s frustrating to see the same thing again about a third consecutive opponent when players with “no experience” like Lincecum, Huff, Freddy Sanchez, Jonathan Sanchez, and just about everyone else played some great baseball.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit, none of this was experience = winning. The point was that the Phillies keep getting the one big break in the middle of a series to completely gut-punch the opponent. It happened in pivotal game 4 in the 08 and 09 NLCS. It happend in game 4 of the NLDS. It happened last series in game 2. The point was that there always seems to be one moment in these games where the other team just buckles. I am saying experience helps overcome that moment. It has absolutely nothing to do with the entire series. I don’t care how much Lincecum has pitched in the playoffs – he’s a top 3 pitcher in MLB.
It’s simply one thing I wanted to add in the middle of the fascinating Huff-Howard debates. It doesn’t make me stupid or uninformed. It was just something I thought relevant. If the Giants can push through the bit of adversity they are likely to face in Philly, good on them. It would go a long way to help them win the series.
Holy shit
I read what you rote.
If the Giants can stay composed during the big moments, it will say a lot about their team. Every pitch is magnified, the crowd gets loud, and emotions run high
I think that was answered when Derek Lowe begged to stay in the game and walked a batter. Or something, all those games kind of run together for me.
Also:
the Phillies keep getting the one big break in the middle of a series to completely gut-punch the opponent. It happened in pivotal game 4 in the 08 and 09 NLCS
I don’t remember that happening against the Yankees last year. JETER’D!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations to the New York Yankees, 2010 World Series Champions!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Condolences on the Phillies' second consecutive defeat at their calloused hands!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
You obviously don’t know the Giants because we’ve been gut punched millions of times. Three times in the last two months, the Giants have lost Extra innings games in which they were either leading and blown the lead, or came from behind to tie, only to lose in such spectacular fashion that I thought I would shoot someone, but they’ve come back. Most recently the Ankiel home run in the extra innings game in the NLDS at home. Last I checked, the Giants won and are advancing to the NLCS
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
Sometimes having experience matters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKwLVh1OXI
We lost that series for a lot of reasons
Lack of postseason experience wasn’t one of them.
Listen: If you come here and say something that you CAN’T BACK UP, you’re going to be mocked for it. There are lots of reasons to believe that the Phillies will beat the Giants. No need to make some up.
That’s fine. When I see a moment that costs the Giants a crucial game and I chalk it up to a lack of experience, can I come gloat here?
and this, folks, is a Philly fan in a nutshell!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Why bother?
Wouldn’t you rather enjoy the self-satisfaction and, you know, actually watching your team win a game, than troll a bunch of internet spreadsheet nerds (which is incidentally a pretty funny way to view McC).
Also, I’m wondering if this is the kind of thing some posters from the Braves nerdboard were talking about.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, because I came here to troll and be an asshole. Why don’t you go back through the thread and see how I came here to give a little insight on something not discussed and wish you guys good luck. The response is that I’m an asshole, unintelligent troll. Solid argument from you.
The response is that I’m an asshole, unintelligent troll.
from what I’ve seen, this is one of the things you said that I agree with.
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by DrStankus on Oct 15, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seconded!
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait – we’re talking about Stankus, right?
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know what your original intention was but
can I come gloat here?
is pretty much an advisory that you will be back to troll.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
What if the Phillies make a cruicial mistake from too much playoff experience?
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And when the Phillies make that same mistake will you grovel and say you are a moron?
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
but
that wouldn’t be from lack of playoff experience.
So, the only way that you can deduce that it was from lack of playoff experience is if you already have that cocked and loaded.
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Nope. I just think there are a few instances where it can help. It might be relevant, it might not. I fail to see how it’s such a wild notion.
Dusty Baker talked a lot about it. The Phillies got HOUSED in 2007 and then talked a lot about how the experience helped them the following year. I’m terribly sorry that I agree with major leaguers and their assessment of how experience MIGHT be relevant.
A lot of us think that Dusty Baker isn’t necessarily the greatest mind of our time.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
not in my top 100
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
It is. But like normal human being, major-league ballplayers forget in the heat of something like a postseason series that they have already spent decades honing their craft.
Not that it matters, but I thought your initial post was fine. I disagree, but it was civil and thoughtful.
Ah, but that’s where we are looking at it differently. I’m not saying the guy forgets how to wear his glove or faces the umpire when he’s batting.
I mean when it’s the 8th inning and the Giants are up 3-2 and you have your set up man in there and it’s so loud he can’t hear himself think. Can he compose himself enough to throw good pitches? It’s tough, and the only thing I’m even saying is that every Phillie hitter has faced that, everybody in the rotation (really except Halladay), and every bullpen arm that we are going to use meaningfully has done it. It doesn’t mean it’s going to end well, but they have at least experienced it before. I think it counts for something. That’s literally the only point I’m making.
Another anecdotal piece of evidence that will drive you nuts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjE85n7Lm0
Sometimes it can get to ya. Next batter: 2 out grand slam. Whatever, it’s not a science, just one man’s opinion.
Wait.. what? Wasn’t Victorino *in*experienced (by your criterion) at the time?
Wait.. what? Wasn’t Victorino *in*experienced (by your criterion) at the time?I mean, that isn’t just wrong, it’s internally inconsistent.
BUT THE PHILLIES AS A TEAM HAD EXPERIENCE!
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
It had more to do with CC then Victorino. Why are you guys straining so much to find inconsistencies? I readily admit what I am saying is not even remotely a science or verifiable. I think it matters. That is all. CC may have been a bit unnerved by the moment and couldn’t throw the pitches he wanted. Maybe he was so overworked he was shot. Just food for thought. It really doesn’t mean you guys have to continue to act like my opinion is so far off the wall.
I don’t think we are straining at all.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a blood sport, jrphi2002, and you are the unwitting target. Some folks here seem to have an insatiable need to take down people with whom they disagree, and “no data” is their weapon of choice. Recognize them for what they are and they will no longer matter to you.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
You’re talking about me here, and I’m not quite sure I understand the criticism.
Is it too much to ask that someone who wishes to debate a topic have facts to back their assertions up?
C’mon, is there no room for opinions that are neither provably true nor false? Sure you can argue, but don’t always fall back on “you can’t prove it, so you’re stupid for even saying that.” That, to me, is slightly dickish.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
There's room for them on sports radio I guess
But if something CAN’T BE PROVEN, then what is it’s predictive value?
If it can’t be proven, what’s the point in talking about it?
lots of unprovable opinions are worth having.
I don’t know why you would post any opinion on this board that they weren’t prepared to either argue about or relinquish immediately though.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
well that came out wrong. You get what I’m saying though.
FWIW, I don’t really give a crap whether jrphi’s opinion is provable with stats. None of my arguments against it were purely statistical, just historical.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
If it can’t be proven, what’s the point in talking about it?
If we were running a courtroom or publishing a scientific journal here, then I’d agree. But in baseball, as in life, most of what is interesting is not amenable to “proof.”
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That's fair
I don’t mean, I suppose, that unprovable things shouldn’t be talked about.
What I meant was that unprovable things shouldn’t be used as points in a debate.
Wait a second
This place has plenty of debates around unprovable points, like pie vs. cake, Rush, etc.
I don’t think trying to run someone off the site for his opinions accomplishes anything except making us all look like dicks.
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False!
Pie>>>>You
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Cake is playing in Dallas in December. And it looks like a new album in 2011. Woot.
Also, cake > pie.
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no
just disagree endlessly until they give up, per McC operating memo #14.
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"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
see?
thanks for backing me up.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But see, I have pointed to a few instances where I said I think it was evident. I may be wrong!
Stats aren’t exactly concrete either. You can pick 6 stats to show Pitcher X is useful, while excluding harmful data. You can say Howard going 3-4 is productive, but what if they were all flares to left that produced no RBI or runs scored? To sit here and argue over who “I’d rather have more Howard or Huff” isn’t exactly going to show us anything about THIS series. Is discussing experience any less fruitful?
Stats are concrete.
Is the sense that they show, concretely, what has happened in the past.
No, stats are not absolute. But stats are the BEST thing we have to predict future performance. You have a better way to tell how a player will do in the future than his past performance? Do share, every front office in the MLB would like to konw.
Scouting
/runs
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Fine, then why can’t be talk about Ruiz’s career World Series numbers? As soon as that is raised the response is SAMPLE SIZE! It’s a stat, so use it!
It is a stat
But there is a better stat available to predict Ruiz’s performance going forward—his career numbers.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m willing to make an even money bet that Ruiz’s numbers in this series will be closer to his full career numbers than his career World Series numbers.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Does that mean you get mine if I win?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds fair.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Our relievers have blown games before in the regular season. Sometimes you succeed, sometimes you fail.
People have an unending need to explain everything, so they come up with reasons and deductions that don’t exist.
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Experience
I mean when it’s the 8th inning and the Giants are up 3-2 and you have your set up man in there and it’s so loud he can’t hear himself think. Can he compose himself enough to throw good pitches?
I think that there is validity to having experienced playing under a high pressure spotlight. Lincecum said before game 1 of the NLDS that his experience starting the ASG was that the adrenaline had him all pumped up and that he was better prepared to deal with it this time. And he was.
I am hoping that the NLDS was a valuable experience that the Giants now have. I am hoping that Sergio Romo has “giving up hits” out of his system.
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I guess but
Bumgarner said pitching in his high school championship helped him…
Relievers are very different than starters…much relievers are high strung intense guys to begin with..
I’m not agreeing with him or you..
“Post season experience” is BS…high pressure situations are high pressure situations…whether it be the ASG or high school championships…the fact that it’s the postseason makes no difference.
Relievers get themselves amped up normal so for Sergio to get overhyped about an important situation/game is not all that surprising.
Oh, well I’d definitely concede that point. I’d argue meaningful post-season experience is more stressful, but it’s all how you deal with it. Do the Giants have any meaningful pressure games in the last few years?
Yes, this NL West season was more stressful than last year. Try again.
If any of you are lucky enough to have NLCS tickets, report back on the atmosphere. I promise it’s more electric than a mid-june game.
Yes, this NL West season was more stressful than last year. Try again.
Why wouldn’t it be? It certainly was for the Giants, who despite their slogan were never really in that thing (in 2009).
And the Dodgers won the division by 3 games over the Rockies, who won the WC. The Giants and Padres were this || close to playing a one game playoff and wild-card playoff. That’s pretty stressful.
Thing C
I think he’s saying it wasn’t as stressful as the World Series (which the Phillies played in) last year.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What is getting HOUSED?
and is that a bad thing?
Dictionary:
Provide (a person or animal) with shelter or living quarters
house
1. (v) to consume a substantial quantity quickly, completely, and with purpose.
2. (v) to beat in competition.
3. (v) to dominate.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
As thou sayest, milord
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Whaaaat??
STEPHEN REVETRIA strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
i just thought the guy typo’d and meant to say HOSED
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
I’ve been thinking about this. We’re currently on pretty good terms with The Good Phight at the moment. Should we warn them not to come around after losses, lest they experience our uglier selves?
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I'm not sure...
I really need a non-NL West blog to hate…
Talking Chop was nice…maybe TGP will be the Purple Row of the NL East
Based on my “research,” I think it’s clearly t’other way around.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I looked for a reason to hate Talking Chop, just cause of that stupid chop… then they tell me they think Posey really is the deserving ROTY.
It was maddening how much they agreed with me.
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
no
A message board that can’t handle a few trolls is no message board at all. We can always ban ’em.
nah
severed limbs of ogres don’t keep on attacking until dissolved in acid.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Or burned with fire.
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by mhad on Oct 15, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
but we enjoy sticking a wand up their nose
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Almost always there’s some reeeeeallly inappropriate comment… rape, murder, arson, rape — something like that.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
u guys r all 5
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Remain calm, people.
It’s purely hypothetical. Probably won’t happen. If jrphi2002 actually comes to gloat about anything, we will deal with him then.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I know. If only Robb Nen had some previous experience in the postseason.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
be realistic…the Marlins WS did not really count…it’s like the time Marisa Tomei won an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny
OT: Nen trade...
total fleecing by Sabean (I know Marlins was having a fire sale but still)
On November 18, 1997, Nen was traded to the Giants for Mike Villano, Joe Fontenot and Mick Pageler
We traded Grant for Nen? How did we ever get Grant back? Free agency?
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Now that makes sense. I hope Grant isn’t pissed we traded his cousin.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
IIRC Both Fontenot's used to be highly touted prospects
Joe was in the 90’s and Mike was a 1st rd draft pick in…01(?)
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
. . . and that wasn’t one of them? because the Giants were loaded with playoff savvy veterans that year. The Angels had, who? Dennis Cook?
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
You don’t see how posting this could piss off a few people?
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If we had playoff experience we’d be able to laugh this off.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pissed now that I know we were done in by all of that Angels playoff experience.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, that wasn't a good way to make friends.
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next time Phil fan needs to bring candy at least
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not offended. I just think playoff experience is a load of horsepoo. Good players get playoff experience because they are good, and they play well in the playoffs because they are good.
Also, the Reds lost their ability to hit ball against a really good pitcher who had zero playoff experience.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
So this
I want to clutch your newsletter.
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Teams that are good are good? But what about the intangibles? Like heart, grit, and hunger?
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Jay Bruce lost the ball in the lights because he lacks post-season experience
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Did I say that?
Think about the mental errors that team had. On the same play, Phillips tried to rush the game and dropped the ball, allowing the winning run to score. Rolen threw to the wrong base. There were two other errors in that game.
The Reds also walked in the 3rd run. The crowd was loud, etc. Maybe the inexperience added to some of that? Nope, couldn’t be.
No, because there is as much evidence to the contrary as there is for it. The Yankees lost to the DBacks in 01 (I believe Mariano Rivera himself gave up the game winning hit) and the Marlins in 04. The Rays eliminated Boston in 08. Roy Halladay threw a no hitter in his first postseason start. Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and rookie Buster Posey all play well in their first postseason series. Etc. etc.
Errors, blown saves and mistakes happen.
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"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And you don’t think there’s any difference between the NLCS starting in Philly and game 3 of the NLDS in Atlanta that can’t even sell out a playoff game? Nothing at all that may cause some nerves?
I think the fact that they are only 4 wins away from the World Series, that they’re playing in the NLCS, the playoffs will cause nerves.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure. But you don’t think the Phillies will get the same feeling playing in San Francisco (especially if the Giants split the first two or are up 2-0)?
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"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
No. Because they've already been through the NLCS and won it. Two years running.
The Phillies are unafraid and they won’t let pressure get to them. The Giants might, and if they do, they’re finished. They might be finished anyway, since they’re not the better team, but if they get overwhelmed, forget it.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I think the key to winning this series is Wheaties. If the Giants lose, it is because the Phillies ate more Wheaties for breakfast.
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"If City play a game against United for 89 minutes, maybe they’ll have a chance." -King Eric Cantona
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
/hands parachute to person falling into chasm
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
/packed parachute incorrectly
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
yet, you didn't pull the trigger.
actually was making a Piranha 3D reference, which so desperately needed someone to yell the inferred remark in the theater.
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I'm gonna go with 'no,' Regis. Final answer.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 15, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait
Rolen threw to the wrong base
Wouldn’t this be an example of a guy with playoff experience (35 post-season games) screwing up?
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The argument you're making seems to involve stacking the deck in your favor.
I think the problem here is that there’s no way to disprove your assertion about playoff experience because any evidence about an experienced veteran choking is just a fluke, while a young guy who Conrads it up would be a victim of pressure. Since you’re not going to be convinced, it doesn’t seem like much of a discussion when you’re saying “I’m right, you’ll all see!”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
so someone without playoff experience throws to the wrong base, its cause theyre nerves were shot, they saw a fan getting puked on in the stands, etc, then if someone with playoff exp throws to the wrong base its because he screwed up?
where do you draw the line?
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
if the phillies screw up
its a fluke (duh)
but if its the giants, well that darn inexperience in the playoffs caught up with them.
this, jrphi2002, is why your arguments have holes in them
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
No. My point is that every series has big moments and sometimes the pressure gets to players differently. The Rangers bullpen seemed to try to do too much last night and not one of them could make a quality pitch. Is it a lack of experience? I don’t know. Maybe.
My point was simply this – if the Giants are up 3-2 tonight in the 7th/8th innings and have to mix and match to get to Wilson in the 9th, I would hope CBP is loud and obnoxious. If your bullpen guys haven’t dealt with this pressure a lot, maybe it will get to them. It might not, this is what I’ve continuously said. If the Giants handle it well, make their pitches, and get outs, they win. If they do all of that, I tip my cap and wish you guys good luck in the World Series.
I’ve never once claimed it’s a scientific stat that is going to decide a series. For you guys to act like it is just shows a lack of tact and/or intellect.
Darren Oliver's a real greenhorn
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by natteringnabob on Oct 16, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Brett Gardner
had a great game!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 16, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I forgot
I was dazzled by Sabathia’s experience.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 16, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
How pissed are you gonna be when you lose this series in 5 games? Would you like me to gloat after every game or just the clincher?
apparently
you’ll be gloatrolling every game, so I don’t think it matters.
This thread is too big to keep loading, so I yield it to you.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 16, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as I wish I could say I like you, you’re being stupid. And by that, I mean really stupid
by giant4life83 on Oct 16, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure you won’t survive your first trolling.
Look, man. You’re absolutely right that you got kinda dogpiled here, and you’re absolutely right that your initial post wasn’t a trollish comment. But, intentionally or not, it posited that ‘playoff experience’ will have some bearing on the coming series. Statistical evidence indicates that is not the case; that what we see as ‘clutch’ is in fact really just random variance upon which it is human nature to ascribe order, meaning, and narrative.
This site has been through some epic flamewars over the whole clutch/intangibles/playoff experience over the last couple years; just search “Fred Lewis” or “The Problem.” It’s all part of the larger Bill James vs. Joe Morgan debate that’s itself a component of the game remaking itself for the Information Age.
MCC has, by and large, come down on the side of statistical analysis. And most folks on both sides of that debate are pretty sick of it, anyway. So the knee-jerk response around here when that topic is introduced is to KILL IT WITH FIRE!
So, thank you for coming over, and thank you for introducing a topic of interest to you. Feel free to do so again. But be prepared to back up your beliefs in a calm, reasoned manner, or be prepared to live with the idea that others will disagree with you.
And repeatedly threatening to come over here and troll if and when your big brother beats up our big brother is childish, cowardly, and stupid. Oh, and laughable.
Also, bragging that the CBP crowd helped the Phillies win the World Series by distracting the Rays with implied threats to the players’ families’ safety is grossly classless.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 16, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, the Giants woe-is-me act won’t work against the fact that the Phillies are better at handling the big moment? If we take that statement as absolute proof, then isn’t the Giants’ woe-is-me act justified? They’ve got no chance! You just said so!
Also, the Giants do have a chance. It’s just very small.
our shot is bigger than that.
I’d put it around 60-40 in PHI favor, b/c it’s a short series.
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey guys
We should totally threaten the families of the Phillies players. That’ll shake ’em
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
So you are saying the Yankees are assholes who don’t care about the safety of their families?
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
We know. We are working with a doctor about our allergy’s to stupidity.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
they just found a cure. rid yourself of the stupidity, and you shall not sneeze so much!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry?
The Rays had to leave their families at home for some of those games out of fear. Now, is that good, appropriate fan behavior? Not even a little bit.
Can you elaborate on this? I’m aware of the Philly fans having a brutish reputation but are there specific instances that occurred?
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
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Yea -
Here’s a small article discussing it: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/10/boo-santa-claus.html
This was a little update from Gomes for the last series: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20101004_Reds_wary_of_hostile_Phillies_fans.html
And that dude intentionally vomited on a girl.
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And look, now two specific instances of bad behavior vilify the Phils fans. I thought anecdotal evidence proved nothing? Is that only in baseball?
You are a Phillie fan.
and you kinda seem like a dick.
Science.
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by DrStankus on Oct 15, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seem like a dick? I am absolutely a dick. I did come here to be nice, and the response has been overwhelmingly nasty! It makes me sad!
so you came here
acted like like a dick
got a nasty response
and that makes you sad?
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No, I came here to talk about how I think experience may be the only thing separating these teams. Nobody is really questioning the talent level on either side. I simply said that experience in a crucial spot may decide a pivotal game and make all the difference. To argue over who has the better CF is not going to explain much to how they will play this series. I didn’t think I was being dick and I tried carefully not to be one. I got a ridiculous response. People could have ignored me. Didn’t think you guys had to be dickheads about the whole thing.
..and ‘experience’ has roughly zero predictive ability once you control for baseball skill.
Or, in fewer words, go Rangers!
sorry- too late
Yankees win! THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Yankees win!
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by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
how about we agree that you have every right to your opinion, and you agree not to tar us all with the “dickhead” brush?
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
How could he not have a right to his opinion? Having a right to your opinion is not the same as being immune from ridicule (perhaps unfairly).
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I was a little disappointed by the middling quality of said ridicule. Where were the insults to the cheese steak?
“Hey, jagoff, you got Velveeta on the curb!”
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
How could he not have a right to his opinion?
I don’t know, around here it often seems that ridiculing opinions without “data” is sort of a knee-jerk reaction. It would be refreshing to have a few of the stat-heads admit that opinions could occasionally, actually be valid even without a multivariate regression model to support them. Maybe they could even admit that their disagreement, in the absence of proof one way or another, is also an opinion.
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This happened to me!
And I was arguing in favor of Velez > Torres. There was a brief furor, but what I didn’t do was maintain that my unsubstantiated opinion had undeniable weight; I admitted that it could easily be totally wrong (which it was). That’s the key. I think most posts that make that kind of argument tend to go down in flames because they latch on to that opinion as though it were holy writ, denying that possibility of others being correct. If you admit that the other side could well be right, you get a lot further.
It is telling that I was blindly, mistakenly and unforgivably wrong.
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May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
And we simply disagreed…
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
You said experience in a crucial spot may decide a pivotal game and make all the difference. You were mocked for it. Now you’re playing the part of aggrieved victim. Go back to Philly and cry me a river…
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a good one. I give it 62.734% against.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Stirring for a fight
You posted on an “enemy” site and got flak from a relatively small minority of people who post here. Don’t let it throw off your perspective.
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For what it’s worth, I don’t think jrphi2002 was being a dick at all. Being wrong does not necessarily mean someone’s a dick.
Unless you think it’s dickish to come to the opposing team’s blog and tell them why they won’t win the series?
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“Unless you think it’s dickish to come to the opposing team’s blog and tell them why they won’t win the series?”
Yeah, I kinda think that’s dickish.
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to be fair
that was after I said he acted kinda like a dick
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That’s on me and it was provoked. I would apologize, but since I don’t have science to back up my apology, it wouldn’t be accepted.
hey
it’s cool.
I’m a dick too.
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Humor and sense of humor are two different things. I’m starting to think I need to explain things much more slowly and clearly.
He thinks we’re of below intelligence.
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We are. We haven’t been to the playoffs, as a blog, so, we don’t know how to react to any challenges.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
You should do that to yourself before hitting post.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
can…you…talk…real…slow….for….us…?
t..h..a…n…k…..y….o….u
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you just have to get use to use here. It’s a…acquired taste, to say the least.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
well, you ARE a Cal fan......
/ducks
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Meh. I don’t actually. Not this site. If we can’t handle that, then we might as well be a big circle jerk.
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by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
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I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
/shrug
it is a little. Merits arguing with rather than name-calling, I’d say.
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I said I think one thing differentiates the teams and commented that if you can overcome it, you may very well win. And with that pitching staff you can compete for the World Series. Heaven forbid!
but, but… he’s from the other side, we have to hate him right?
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I’ve just been skimming this, and it’s a fair assessment. jrphi2002, I think people disagree pretty strongly with your comments (or the perception of your comments in light of a lot of sports commentary that does emphasize experience) and the general MCC snarkiness got going.
I would encourage you to return to discuss baseball in the future (although, as fair warning, people will likely be on edge following any Giants losses and might be a little testy). I think people on this site enjoy having visitors from other sites and discussing baseball with them.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you really?
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
you can get back to your circle jerk now
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
I hope some of this was useful and non-offensive.
Don’t worry, it wasn’t….
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Calm down, everyone
Since when did any comment that can’t be statistically proven become trolling?
I think there’s some truth to this:
If the Giants can stay composed during the big moments, it will say a lot about their team.
I think our feast-or-famine offense is largely due to mental approach. Guys press trying to get THE big hit, and they don’t do as well when they’re pressing. Once they score a few runs, everyone loosens up and it’s easier to score more. If that’s true then you’d expect it to be magnified in the playoffs.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
“It will say a lot about their team” is, traditionally, a man vs. pussy statement and under that traditional guise at least suggests that the Giants are a fluke. I think, traditionally, any champion rightly views challengers as fluky — it is their right as a champion to believe they are dominant, until proven otherwise.
But composed during the big moments is sorta how any team wins any championship or even most of their baseball games. The team to make the fewest mistakes, etc.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If my team wins, it will show that they have the moral advantage.
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God
God and massive zucchini
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But you repeat yourself.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are suggesting that is what I was implying you are in the wrong fucking universe as me. Few of the Giants have experienced a series with this magnitude. Maybe they will handle it extremely well. If they don’t, it doesn’t mean they are pussies. It means next year they are fortunate enough to experience it again, this year will have helped.
I was addressing why some people might interpret that particular statement as “trolling,” because of its traditional implication(s). You very clearly said that the Giants success in this series might well boil down to how they handle the pressure (that’s my summation, anyway).
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
What you call the “traditional implication” is news to me, frankly. I’’m not familiar with it and I didn’t read the original comment that way.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
“Say a lot about a team” is almost always in terms of “toughness” or “fortitude.” At least, in my experience.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
YOURE UNIVERSE IS WRONG
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I AM NOBODIES UNIVERSE
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FWIW
I don’t think he’s trolling, I just think he’s misguided.
There are lots and lots of statistical reasons to believe the Phillies are better than us. Why bother with unmeasurable platitudes?
by GiantPain on Oct 15, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
It’s pretty clear that the Phillies have a better lineup and their top 3 pitchers are likely slightly better as well. If the Phillies win it’s probably going to be because of this rather than some nebulous “experience”.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Or else every missed hanging slider will be a testament to the Giants chokery.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhhh… I’ve been keeping an eye on you guys for a few days now. Every few posts compares the stats and says “holy cow it’s close this year!” And it’s true, we aren’t blowing anybody away offensively. We have turned into an arm-heavy team this year, which is bizarre in it’s own right. So, our lineup has been down and you guys certainly have the arms to compete with us. (OMG bullpen!). So, my point is, with the Phils not having any completely discernible advantage on it’s face, I think experience may help. The Reds had a killer offense this season. Sure they ran into a buzzsaw in Halladay/Hamels, but they also HAD game two. They choked it away. I’d say experience slightly inhibited them from overcoming the adversity in a huge moment. I could be wronggggggggggggggg. I get that. I think it played a part. It could happen to the Giants. It could happen to anybody, but seeing as you guys are the new guys, it’s just most likely.
It certainly isn’t questioning the fortitude of the Giants. It’s just something to consider. if you’d like to dismiss it, go right ahead.
No problem.
I dismiss “playoff experience”.
There.
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The call is coming from inside the house!
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Experience may matter. It’s certainly a valid point. It’s impossible to know how much it matters, and most people here don’t think it does. I don’t really think it matters myself. We shall have to see how the series goes.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I still contend (if nothing else) this is a more lively debate than a PTI-style ‘who ya got’ Huff or Howard?! Ruiz or Posey? Bochy or Manuel?!!?!!! AHHHH
i think you could throw a stone in any direction to find something more intelligent than PTI
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This layoff dried up all the real baseball talk pretty quickly I think. Even for baseball nerds it’s hard to debate two teams for more than a day and not run out of things to say.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
All the Phillies fans had the Rays rattled? That’s because they aren’t used to playing in front of more than 20 people
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t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
i thought that was 14 people….
oh wait, i thought we were talking about the Padres
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3zuwF15Ios&feature=player_embedded
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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This one seems appropriate for here as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQOJM4N1m9A&feature=related
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And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
I haven’t been serious about much all day. You guys are far too easily rattled. I hope the Gigantes have a lot more poise!
so it’s okay for me to come on fighting phils or w/e and say “hey, not trying to be a dick, but since we don’t have the postseason exp that you guys do, we will win because a raging rabid team hungry for a championship is more dangerous than one who won’t take us serisously?”
or something like that
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If you go back and reread his original post, he never said “we will win”. I thought the original comment was pretty reasonable and it’s deteriorated all around since then.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
i Z’d thru it, by the end i had no idea what the original post ever even said
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. The original comment wasn’t trolling, in my opinion.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a feint.
Utter frustration and futility.
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by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The Wrongski Feint!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 15, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The fuck—?
STEPHEN REVETRIA strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
This...?
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by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s hilarious.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
/arrow on shirt points straight up at head.
damn, i wish we could edit posts
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets do this! I do not remember feeling this excited about a series since ‘02. Even then, I still don’t think i felt this much anticipation.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 15, 2010 7:10 AM PDT reply actions
No shit. we are facing what is probably the best team left.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I hadn’t thought about it before, but I think you’re right.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a good friend in 2002
that was a Cardinals fan. That was a fun series, we would skip our evening Spanish class we had together to go to the sports bar on campus and watch the games. I don’t have an Phillis fans as friends around here though….
That was a fun series to anticipate though…Bonds and Pujols.
by paboperfecto on Oct 15, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Hilarious Post
And all true.
But let’s also remember the most important post season equation;
The correlation between expectations and the degree of pain after a loss equals 1.0
Or as my mom used to say…don’t get you hopes too high
by Bochean on Oct 15, 2010 7:40 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
No wonder they played Guillen
Had to make it look good since the Royals just claimed Pucetas for Guillen.
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Oct 15, 2010 8:04 AM PDT reply actions
Nothing traded for nothing.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
Pucetas? never heard of him, so that’s good. we dump Guillen and get the comp draft pick too.
that is, assuming Guillen denies arbitration and goes after a contract with someone else. However, I could actually see that little shit accepting arbitration b/c he knows he won’t get a FA deal with anyone else
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s not a chance he’s offered arb. He would definitely accept.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 15, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and the Giants don’t play games with arbitration; they only seem to offer it to guys they genuinely want back.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
like hopefully Ross. I think I remember Sabean saying Ross is in their plans for 2011, but I can’t cite the source. I was a month ago or more.
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If he has a good rest of the postseason, I could see him coming back. Though, according to cot’s contracts, he only had 4 years of ml service at the beginning of the year, so he’ll either be offered a contract or non-tendered.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 15, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought we has still in arb. Hopefully he stays on- would make a great 4th OF or even starting RF if a huge FA isn’t signed
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, sorry, bad wording. He has one more year of arbitration left, so we offer arbitration (and a contract) or we non-tender him. We have exclusive rights though.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 15, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, yeah, that’s what I was thought. When you said offered a contract or non-tendered, I was thinking he was still under team control so it threw me off.
I’d sign him for 2 years, so he’s trade bait 2012 if needed.
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
as your attorney, I would strongly advise you not to download this image.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
…Now listen this is key. You have to start at the base like this and slowly work your way the shaft increasing your speed as you move along.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
This is making me uncomfortable.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
I think it’s been over 4 hours now
It's orange inside
by TheAntiBork on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that Young Jonah Hill, Young Grant and Young David B. Fleming? Did Burrell time travel to show Boy Scouts his wood?
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Pat knows Philly is literally dangerous
Can Pat Burrell’s years in Philadelphia give the San Francisco Giants some inside knowledge?
Absolutely.
“Go tell your family to buy an [Chase] Utley jersey. Don’t wear ours,” Burrell said.
The PTBNL in the Guillen deal
mlbtraderumors MLB Trade Rumors
Royals acquire RHP Kevin Pucetas from Giants to complete Jose Guillen deal
Our Pucetas is jealous no more
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Oct 15, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
we are all Pucetas
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Okay...
I know nothing about Pucetas except I’ve actually heard of his name…his stats are not that impressive but he is in AAA…
Pucetas
Was a low round choice who was really surprisingly good in the low minors, enough to draw some acclaim.
Then he was promoted to AAA, and he has sucked up a storm there for 2 years (right?)
That's what the stats look like
17th round…
Incredible stats in A and A+ and then seriously regressed in AAA
He was good for the 1st half of 09
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
He’s not very good and he’s never going to get a chance with the Giants.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
this
Guillen hit some bombs in September, Pucetas is fine. Good luck to him in KC (or Omaha, as appropriate).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants dealt him for a washed up veteran. Therefore he will undoubtedly beat the Giants in a critical game in a few years.
/Science
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
…just in time for our interleague games with the Royals next year!!
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
2011 AL CYA
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I had thought Guillen was the player to be named later...
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
it has. I forget who but it has. Probably happens when everyone on the list of players and the player himself gets injured.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
several apparently
Dickie Noles, John McDonald…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it would be too, as then the Royals would get the comp pick in the draft for losing a Type B FA
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s a favor to Pucetas? Better chance of ever breaking through to the majors in Kansas City than in San Francisco.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Then we can find some replacement level starting pitcher to add to Fresno for next year, because that’s what Pucetas is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
What is Eric Hacker’s contract status? I’d rather him than Pucetas.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hacker doesn’t look like much either. The class of Fresno last year was Matt Yourkin, whom we never hear anything about.
Hacker wasn’t great, but he did have a K/BB over 2.
You’re right about Yourkin though. I didn’t even know he existed.
It’s really a pity that Michael Main spontaneously combusted after coming over to the Giants.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Hacker = 1 year MiLB
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Yourkin seems like one of those non-prospect, journeymen minor league players who the FO never pays attention to. It’s too bad, because he’s decent.
Buster Posey: He knows the rules!
♥BARRY ZITO♥
Ben WIlshire is the new Dreamy Dan.
You mean like Joey Martinez, Ryan Sadowski, Pat Misch, Billy Sadler, and Scott Munter?
They’ll pay attention to him if they need him. I really hope they don’t.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
AAA Rule V pick!
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
SUSTAINABLE
I mean, that’s the problem now, right?
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
BB America
had Wheeler and Joseph as to the two top Giants pitching prospects (outside of Bumgarner and Runzler)…still the same?
Joseph?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
The Giants only had Wheeler in their top 10 last year as a pitcher. I don’t remember what pitchers showed up in the 11-20 range. Maybe Surkamp, Graham…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Joseph?
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The Pucetas of tomorrow!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
right now
Bucardo is probably the #2 pitching prospect behind Wheeler and then probably(?) Surkamp.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d agree with this.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
unfortunately, none of those guys are particularly close to being big league ready.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, Sabes is going to need to do some waiver wire scouring this year to fill up Fresno’s pitching staff.
And hopefully Wheeler takes a big step forward this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Had Bumgarner not been "ready"
that 5 spot would have been really, really bad.
Or if anyone got injured for any length of time. I hope there’s some good stuff on the annual pitcher junk pile this year.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
He might not want to pitch in the minors, but Ian Snell could be a good guy to take a flier on.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
agree on Snell, but Seattle was basically the minors already and pitched 9 games for Tacoma anyway (w/o much success – ERA 6.66!). I don’t think many teams would be willing to give him a major league deal as a starter. he’s a reclamation project and probably should be converted to a reliever.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
BUT -——————————————————————————————————————→
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't everyone here want him in the Sanchez trade?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
that was Longoria
though I would settle for Heyward
No, the Freddy Sanchez trade
IIRC People wanted Snell to come over too
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I was joking, but on Alderson-for-Sanchez, I think the going wisdom was ’couldn’t we have gotten more than a gimpy 2B whom we plan to overpay as a FA.’ I don’t remember hearing any one name.
I meant like before the trade was announced
When we thought that it was like Bowker/Frandsen/Guzman going to Pitt
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Tanner will likely be in Fresno next year, but he seems to be a left handed Pucetas.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah his strikeout rate dropped precipitously in his first go-round in the upper minors this year. Still, he’s not a bad arm to have around.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
His BB rate is also pretty high
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Probably a 6yr minor league FA
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
I hope so. I know that they weren’t any great shakes, but it does actually kind of hurt depth-wise to lose Pucetas and YeahJoey in a few months time. I guess we can just sign some Ramon Ortiz types.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
hmm
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond, Brian Anderson.
Jeremy Affeldt induces strained obliques
by Giant among Angels on Oct 15, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
think of it as Molina and Pucetas for Ray, Main and Guillen
it all averages out.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Wow.
Grant has turned into a Grecian playwright. This classic scene from Sophocles was all I could think of after reading his post.
Halladay: I account myself a child of fortune, beneficent fortune, and I shall not be dishonored. Who saved the Phillies in their moment of need? Who threw the no-hitter in the playoffs? It was I! And I shall give them victory on this day. Tell me who is killing our chances at a championship, and I will have them exiled.
Blind Umpire: It was you all along, Halladay. You killed the Phillies’ chances by giving up three home runs in the first game.
Halladay: Absurd! You’re blind.
Blind Upmire: Oops. Was I predicting the future again? I do that. Blind physically, but not spiritually, you know.
/points at Halladay
Blind Umpire: Don’t make the gods angry. It’s your fault. You thought you were escaping your family by fleeing Toronto, but you didn’t realize you killed your father on the way here.
Halladay: LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU. OH LOOK A MESSENGER.
Messenger: Sooooo….turns out you killed your dad.
Halladay: Ah, me! I was the blind one all along!
/gives up three home runs
Halladay: NO! It is just as the Umpire foretold! While he could not see balls nor strikes, yet he could see my fate!
/stabs out eyes
Chorus: Here we are, all mortals. Small, insignificant little playthings of the Baseball gods. Nothing we do can escape our fate, just look at poor Halladay Rex, here. He was awesome, and then the Baseball gods struck him down out of pure whimsy. He had a fate, he could not escape it. This, then, is our conclusion. Keep your head down, don’t assume you’ll win, and perhaps the gods will forget to zap you with lighting. It’s the best we’ve got, so don’t mess it up.
/shuffles rhythmically offstage
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Giants baseball
“I am blind and old, Antigone, my child.
What country have we come to? Whose is this city…
My sufferings have taught me to endure—
and how long these sufferings have lasted!”
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Dang it...the secret is out
Standing in the way on the Giants’ hopeful path is the team that has represented the National League in each of the last two World Series, Burrell’s former team, the Phillies.
How do the Giants stack up? Probably better than the average Philadelphia sports fan would think. They had the major league’s best pitching staff (3.36 ERA) in the 2010 regular season.
On paper, the Giants are better equipped than the Reds to dethrone the two-time defending, league champion Phillies. But their pursuit in becoming the fourth team in franchise history to reach the World Series in the last 56 years doesn’t take place on paper; it begins on the field at Citizens Bank Park Saturday night.
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2010/10/15/sports/doc4cb7c6127a37e095387273.txt
Braves fans told me that the Giants pitching staff was only league-best this year because of the Braves offense impatient approach at the plate.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wait, WUT? That makes no since.
Giants had the best staff this year b/c the braves hitters sucked?
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
If you listen to Braves fans, that is, indeed the case.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Are the talking about the whole season as in the 162 games of a season?
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm kidding
During the NLDS, a few of them kept saying that the only reason Lincecum/Cain/Sanchez/Bumgarner threw well was because of how undisciplined the Braves hitters were against them and refused to give them very much credit for being, you know, really good pitchers. It became kind of like, “Uh, the Giants led the league in ERA this year… were they just facing the Braves hitters every game?”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
My favorite
was the discussion after Timmy’s 14K no BB performance…Timmy was average at best…it’s because the Braves hitters kept swinging at bad pitches
Well that shows you how much faith I have in Braves fans.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
led the NL in walks
Heyward, Glaus and McCann were the top 3 on the team
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Also, the Braves drew a lot of walks this year. Must of been the lack of playoff experience that made the players forget how to draw walks?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be the definition of “butt-hurt”….
by skilletboy on Oct 15, 2010 9:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I WISH THESE GAMES WERE PLAYED ON PAPER
OH SPREADSHEETS, I JUST CAN’T QUIT YOU
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
/clutches sensually
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
One possible advantage the Giants may have this week:
The weather in Philly lately has had a feeling very much like a typical SF night.
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Just heard the forecast.
54 degrees at game time on Saturday
56 on Sunday.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I think a very very small chance.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Good
Hate to see a 08 WS situation all over again.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
I was at the game…it sucked.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
IAWTC.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
/Timmy puts on beanie and sweatshirt
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
/Looks for his skater shoes
//can’t find them b/c his fans stole them
///goes to buy new ones
////can’t buy any b/c his fans stole his wallet.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Can he back it up?
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Go Giants
the next time i check in here I hope the Giants are on their way home with a win and ready to give the home fans a real show. That’s why they play the games. Know what I mean?
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Oct 15, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions
I believe I may have some sense of what you mean.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Well if we win just one of the two games in Philly it changes everything. Respect is what I’m talking about. Screw the East Coast media. We are contenders!
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Oct 15, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Can anybody ever truly know what is meant?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The post-season really brings out the cliches.
(not talking about you, Grant. Unless hummingbird on cocaine is some sort of overused analogy in a circle I don’t run in.)
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
I think hummingbirds on meth are a more serious problem.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nerdz OT: Thinking about backing up some pics and videos
Is DVD-RW worth the extra costs (like 3 to 4 times the costs of DVD-R)?
I always prefer CD-RW to CD-Rs but I don’t know if that applies for DVDs…
If you’re planning to archive your data on the optical disc, go with a high quality single-write disc. If you plan to use it only as a backup, and therefore eventually transfer the data to a more permanent medium and reuse the disc, then a rewritable disc is the way to go.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 15, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Cops coming?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a bad feeling about this series.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
Series X factor
Dallas Green kidnapped Jason Michaels and is holding him in an equipment shed in Lincoln Financial Field. When Burrell comes up in a key spot with runners on, we go to live coverage of J Mike on the scoreboard with the caption “buttjutt or he’s a goner”
And the rich get richer
one of his A-ball coaches was Ozzie Virgil, Jr.
Best player on that team? Dante Powell.
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
The 10th Circle:
The Impatient, Traitors to Stats, Truth, and Knowledge, Squanderers of Pitching Excellence
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 15, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
We eliminated the Rockies.
We eliminated the Padres.
We eliminated the Braves.
We might as well eliminate the Phillies.
They could be Giants...but not really.
FBAL, too.
Was that Russel Martin take out slide this year?
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
That slide is omnipresent
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
Don’t worry; no one (and I mean NO ONE) thought that we would beat the Pirates in the 91 NLCS. Then a couple of guys named Avery and Smoltz shocked everyone.
A few stellar pitching performances can win a series. Lincecum, Cain, et al. are more than up to the task.
The media sucks. That is all.
by ryantex on Oct 15, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Why is Radnich?
The day before the Giants embark into the National League Championship Series, he continues to poormouth the team and its chances to win the series.
When did the Phillies become the ’27 Yankees?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Oh, the Giants offense was so bad against the Braves
No mention of how poor the Phillies offense was against the Reds…BUT THEY WON IN THREE STRAIGHT AND THE GIANTS WERE LUCKY TO BEAT THE BRAVES!
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
No, but I'm sure he would say it was just a small hiccup
There’s no way the Giants pitching staff could be good enough to induce a similar result.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
He Can't Lose
If Phillies lose, it wasn’t that he was wrong, it was that the Phillies blew it.
If Giants lose, he was right, they never had a chance.
Either way, his audience will either agree or disagree but still listen. Like any other day.
Ugh
I’ve stopped listening to him for the most part, but thought I’d tune in since it’s the day before the series starts.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I don’t even bother 9-12. He also says something fucking moronic in the first 15 minutes that makes me turn it off.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate 9-12 talk radio…
LA:
Rush Limbaugh
Jim Rome
and whatever crap ESPN puts up…
Thank goodness for NPR
ESPN Radio
7-10 would be Colin Cowturd
10-1 would be Scott Van Pelt
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Playing the Phillies is like crossing the streams: “There’s definitely a very slim chance we’ll survive.”
My response to that:
“I love this plan! I’m excited to be a part of it!”
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's what I said
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Well, you're mad that he's "poormouthing" the Giants
If that’s what he thinks, why shouldn’t he say it?
I'd rather he'd offer some tangible reasons
Using the data from the Giants offensive performance against the Braves while disregarding the Phillies offensive performance against the Reds is disingenuous.
Implying that this Phillies team is some kind of juggernaut is also disingenuous. In theory, they have a more talented lineup. In reality, that lineup has both struggled recently, and will be facing the superior pitching staff.
Plus, this is part of his “you guys take this stuff too seriously” shtick. There’s always this vibe that he’s trying to throw water on the fires of optimism – like he’s performing some kind of public service.
In short, he’s a tool.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I agree with this. He should acknowledge that the Phillies are a better team. But he shouldn’t blabber on about the Giants not having a chance. Or well, it’s talk radio, so he probably should to rile people up.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
KNBR doesn't pay him to talk baseball
They pay him because he’s in touch with the hip hop generation.
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
KNBR
It’s very odd listening to KNBR, because every host seems to take tons of calls from their superfans. Does anybody enjoy listening to Radnich or Fitz and Brooks THAT much? I’ll grant that they are sometimes entertaining, but more often than not, they kinda suck.
by Murray, Present on Oct 15, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait. You’re admitting you listen to Radnich?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
i admit i have heard a portion:
“blah blah blah, Gary….blah blah blah blah blah, Gary. Gary, blah blah blah blah”
seriously, that guy loves to say Gary’s name.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Sadly, yes
I guess I’m just jonesing for as much Giants related discussion as possible.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
It’s not that I’m angry. Just… disappointed is all.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
With you it’s anger.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? That annoys me. I don’t like such negativity among Giants radio personalities. Come on, the Phillies aren’t favored that much.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Playoffs are a fuckin crapshoot. Sure some teams have better odds, but no so-called expert should stand up and say some team doesn’t have a chance. The fact they are in a league where only 20% of the teams make the playoffs ensure that the teams that do make it are able to string a few weeks of good baseball together. Surely enough to beat even good teams. That and Bobby Jones and Jose Cruz Jr. You never fuckin know. Why isn’t it Saturday yet?
by CrispinGloversBalls on Oct 15, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
IM TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT THIS CRAP BRING ON THE ACTUAL BASEBALL PLZ K THX
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’m in this line
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis who is stuck in the baseball purgatory called extended spring training.
BASEBALL ISN’T PLAYED ON THE INTERWEBZ ITS IN TEH FIELD!!!!!!!!!
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
YOUR SPREADSHEETS ARE MEANINGLESS!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
FanGraphs' Eno Sarris this morning,
"Every pitcher is Roy Halladay to the Giants. You know what kind of pitchers do well against the Giants? The ones with noses." – Grant, from the McCovey Chronicles in his post called "Sizing up the Phillies’ starting rotation"
by iloveddickdietz on Oct 15, 2010 10:52 AM PDT reply actions
Yesterday in Yahoo's Big league Stew;
5. Why not?: As they explained over at McCovey Chronicles, it doesn’t always make sense how or why the Giants win baseball games in 2010, but the bottom line is they always find themselves in a position to take advantage of every break that goes their way. A bounce here or a bounce there and they can be in control of the series.
by iloveddickdietz on Oct 15, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Has Grant officially reached "pundit" status?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
God, I hope so. Then I may finally get my chance to be a mod!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Don’t forget the little people, Grant!
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian Wilson
Is on Jim Rome’s radio show in a minute. 1050 AM for those in the Bay Area, 570 AM in LA
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
Wow, we really need to win now.
I just got this email from my mom:
Mark your calendar for Thursday, 10/28/10. If the Giants go to the World Series, your mother the goddess got you a ticket.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
Awesome
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Lets hope she didn’t take this route b/c refunds aren’t given. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5425905-504083.html
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s my birthday… so you know, just keep that in mind.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Live press conference
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/live
Manuel now, Bochy/Timmy at 2 pm PT
They could be Giants...but not really.
I was all IT IS 2!!!!!!!
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2002 WS CANCELED
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I was watching and then it cut out to a live feed of CSNBA offices!
Overplayed memes:
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a game!
Find Ray Ratto
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Will Manuel make another Ric Flair reference?
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Brian Wilson on Jim Rome just now
“You want to rip their entire existence apart. But gently.”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
Wilson: “Let’s get weird.”
Rome: “I think we’re there already.”
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Rome: How did you beard go from brown to black?
I dunno. Maybe you should ask a chameleon how it changes color? IT ADAPTS. That’s what I do.
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
by FriscoJoe on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
LOL
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
He. Is. Awesome.
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
LOL!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
t's Posey time!!
Screw you Flannery.
trade y'all Kimbrel for Wilson
bite?
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
kimbrel doen't have the sheer beard strength that wilson does
no deal!
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
he's also only like 16 years old
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Question:
Is Ross done after this season? A lot of us are (sadly) considering him as an acquisition this winter.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be shocked, at this point, if Ross isn't a Giant next year
He very well could be their opening day RF.
He’ll be a value pickup, either way. Interestingly enough, I was just reading the story about how he always wanted to be a rodeo clown…
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
And, once again
Pat gets jealous.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No, it’s not like that. Baggs knows him.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Fucking gold!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I love Brian Wilson. So very much.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If you missed the Brian Wilson interview on Jim Rome today
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
Passan's article regarding the aces of the four playoff teams
Timmeh:
ACE OF CLUBS: Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants. Like Bam-Bam from The Flintstones, Lincecum looks like a baby, only to wield the strength of someone twice his size. And hitters will attest: He’s likelier to bludgeon them with brute force and strike them out than any of the other aces.
Best pitch: Changeup. Lincecum helped popularize the modified split-finger grip used now by Ubaldo Jimenez(notes) and embraced by Halladay this season. Known for his 95-mph fastball when he arrived in the major leagues, Lincecum has remained dominant with less oomph because his changeup tumbles more than a clothes dryer.
Weakness: Because of his high-maintenance delivery, Lincecum often loses control and command. Over the last month, however, he has significantly lowered his walk rate, and his no-walk, 14-strikeout performance in Game 1 of the division series against Atlanta was almost as impressive as Halladay’s no-hitter.
Value to team: Significant, though not imperative. If Lincecum happens to disappear, as he did in the middle of the season when his velocity reached its nadir, the Giants can still survive as long as Matt Cain(notes), Jonathan Sanchez(notes), Madison Bumgarner(notes) and their lockdown bullpen can do to the potent Phillies bats what they’ve done the last six weeks to all other foes.
Trump card: Lincecum’s slider, a neat little pitch he’s using more and more as he relies less and less on his fastball and hammer curve, remains a weapon that he can throw for strikes and use to induce ground balls.
Halladay:
ACE OF SPADES: Roy Halladay. Who better for the Death Card than the stone-cold assassin who threw a no-hitter in his first postseason appearance? Doc’s encore will come 10 days later, though the layoff is immaterial. He’s facing a Giants offense far more meager than the Reds team he held hitless. Can anyone say Van Der Meer?
Best pitch: Perhaps it’s his fastball, which rides at 93 mph with sink. Or maybe his cutter, a 91-mph bat destroyer. Could be his curveball, which he throws for strikes when hitters are looking in the dirt and buries when they’re thinking strike. And how about his changeup, now a fourth plus pitch, putting him and Felix Hernandez(notes) alone in that echelon.
Weakness: He bleeds?
Value to team: Big, just not that big. Because, like the Giants, the Phillies boast incredible depth in their rotation. Roy Oswalt(notes) and Cole Hamels(notes) also merit inclusion on this list, each with boffo playoff performances in years past, and they’re the Nos. 2 and 3 starters in the Phillies’ rotation.
Trump card: It’s not any particular pitch Halladay throws, since all of them are so incredible and practically indistinguishable. His past – 12 seasons with a Toronto team that could never overcome the AL East meat grinder – gives him a tremendous perspective on what postseason baseball means. Halladay is a freakish competitor, and October – and, he hopes, November – baseball will bring the best out of him.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ai4c.i74xCdoaxoK77FsmtQRvLYF?slug=jp-fouraces101410
Weakness: He cares too much?
Weakness: A ginger
Weakness: Often mispronounced as “Holiday”
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Zito is our Jack of Diamonds
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
His past – 12 seasons with a Toronto team that could never overcome the AL East meat grinder – gives him a tremendous perspective on what postseason baseball means.
So, unless I’m misreading this, Halladay has postseason experience because he’s never made the postseason? See, jrphi should’ve brought this up. Then we’d all have realized he’s right.
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 15, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sept.22 2010 against the Giants,
1-Darwin
2-Starlin
3-Marlon
4-Aramis
5-Xavier
6-Alfonso
7-Kosuke
8-Koyie
Oddest collection of first names in a starting eight? I find it difficult to name another person with ANY of these names!
by iloveddickdietz on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 AM PDT reply actions
or the Wayans brothers
My adopted Giant got shipped off to Pittsburgh, and it was worth it.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Twas the Night before Xmas
“Now, Darwin! now, Starlin! now, Marlon and Vixen!
On, Aramis! on Xavier! on, Alfonso and Blitzen!
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
Xavier and Marlon
Xavier Cugat – band leader married to Charo
Marlon Jackson – Jackson 5
Proudly adopted Aubrey Huff. You can't beat that!
Also, some dude named Brando.
There were also some kings of Spain named Alfonso. Like, a whole bunch of them. Even more than there’ve been Rocky movies.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
I got it, proving you do not need to be an ESPN Insider
anyways, summary:
1. our offense sucks; philly’s is the best
2. our biggest advantage is our bullpen
3. bumgarner wasn’t as good as his line indicated in his start vs ATL
4. both good defenses, though we’re probably weaker because of fat guys
5.
While Bochy seems to alternate between asleep-at-the-wheel and standing-on-the-panic-button in terms of reliever management, it’s an almost Bruce-proof bullpen because anyone other than Lopez against right-handed hitters or Chris Ray against anyone is likely to get outs. As long as Bochy doesn’t overreact to one bad outing as he did with Sergio Romo and Brian Wilson in the NLDS, the Giants should have the advantage in any game in which they have a lead after both starters are gone.
this doesn’t seem very accurate at all
by kingofthacove on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure what he’s after. Bochy’s been good with the pen, and Sergio got lit up twice. Understandable that he goes to somebody else in the next close game.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
And he “overreacted” to Wilson’s rough outing by (a) keeping him in for the 9th and (b) calling on him to save the next 2 games. Wha?
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I keep thinking he’s related to Arne Darvin (he’s not).
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I did a search for “NLCS schedule” and clicked on the first thing that came up.
I CAN HAZ MARK REYNOLDS?
Just search “NLCS” and the MLB page will be the second or third hit.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
WE HAVE NO CLUE IF HE WILL LEAVE JAPAN OR IF THESE TEAMS ARE INTERESTED BUT WE RANK THEM ANYWAYS.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
And the 1st page said that.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I liked the lols.
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
NO YU
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
LOL YU
I'm still in the old thread.
"IT'S POSEY, YOU IDIOT." - Jon Miller
Clayton Tanner, the Flying Squirrel!
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 15, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
All year, the Giants have gotten their runs . . .
. . . from unexpected sources. The DeRosa/Whiteside example has been given, but hitters 7 & 8 have delivered as often as 1 & 2. Uribe has been personally responsible for 5 victories, but for the last two weeks, he’s been useless. In his place comes Ross. Even Guillen had his two games of difference making.
I won’t try to predict who will matter in the next week when it comes to producing runs. It might even be Panda, if he gets to start. I’m confident that enough runs will happen to win several games. I can only hope that the Phillies don’t score more.
He is the World's Most Annoying Rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
All year, the Giants have gotten their runs . . .
. . . from unexpected sources.
Same here!
Spaghetti, salad, apples, honey
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Black beans (it’s really an expected source, but not many of the Giants had previous experience with them)…
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I find that really hard to play.
Sanchez (x2), Sandavol, Torres, Uribe, Renteria.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Black beans over pinto? Refried? Those are far more common.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Guess I am biased. My in-laws are cuban and only care about black beans
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m Irish/Lebanese and I only care about black beans. They’re fantastic.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Truth doesn’t lie.
Overplayed memes:
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2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooh. I wasn’t thinking about candy. Your statement is correct.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa there! I love black beans, but lentil beans need some love here.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mrs is Cuban & Mexican and I get a fair share of both. I still prefer refried pinto.
The Magic is inside all of us.
Proud father of the man taking your hard-earned money.
Pintos (garlic,cumin,cilantro,bacon fat, onions, serrano chiles) or refried >>>black beans
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
Anasazi beans rule them all.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It was the same deal for us. It’s incredibly nerve-wracking to feel like there isn’t spot in your lineup you can really count on to produce, especially when you’re going up against a staff like San Fran’s or Philly’s.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Burger run...
I’ve got the In-n-Out urge.
by iloveddickdietz on Oct 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
Texts from a friend and I
“Halladay Lee and Lincecum top three in that order, CC 4th after that the best bet to give u a good start and go seven” — Me
“I would switch Lee and halladay. Lee just seems unhittable in the postseason” — Him
I had to do a double take on that. Somebody actually argued that Halladay has been more hittable this post season.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
…
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
heh
Halladay only pitched one game, Lee was great in two?
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
weeeell, just because the REDS weren’t able to hit him doesn’t mean he was unhittable…you know what I mean? I’m not trying to argue, I just think I understand what Him was saying. Lee just looked extra dirty with nasty on top.
It’s like when people were saying that Timmy’s start was actually better from several statistical viewpoints (swingthroughs, etc.) than Halladay’s.
Also: no hitters have to do with a lot more than pitching THANKS URIBE FOR DROPPING THE BALL
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
No doubt and I get that
I’m laughing at his choice of “unhittable” as the reason why Lee is better than Halladay. Of all the words in the English language, that was probably the one word that you didn’t want to use there.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
yeah i’d have to agree with that lol.
by shaggingflyballs on Oct 15, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
It’s the post-season, not this post-season – Halladay has only had one post-season start, but Lee already has 56 innings in the playoffs, with a 1.44 ERA.
I think the humor lies in the fact that Halladay has actually been unhittable so far in the post season.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Could anybody help in answering this? From Marlboro's outwit the west game.
often times an establishment establishes an institution. In this case, an institution’s name helped establish an establishment in each of the four western locales below. without proof,put them in order of the establishment’s institution, from oldest to youngest.
A. California’s Oldest Little City
B.Montana’s Electric City
C. The City That Knows How
D. The Silver State’s Wells.
by iloveddickdietz on Oct 15, 2010 12:04 PM PDT reply actions
Dallas radio station playing "Ranger or miner"
they get callers on the phone and read a list of 20 names to see if people know which are Chilean miners and which are Texas Rangers with Latin names. Pretty funny.
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Bengie Molina "miner"
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Answer? I can't even understand the question.
Institutionalize the establishment, man.
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
first you must:
formally normalize the normally formalized
/paraphrases butthole surfers
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
They left one out
E. Lung Cancer Township.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Jezebel has an article today called "A Comprehensive Glossary of Gifs"
And there are some pretty great ones here.
The page is a lot easier on your computer than an McC post game gif-a-palooza.
This is great

THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum, FUCK YEAH!
Not remotely safe for work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5qFiutuOZ8
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Love it
Especially the moment of Jerry when the guitar solo starts.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Agent Carney goes deep under cover
TracyRingolsby Tracy Ringolsby
Carney Lansford joins Rockies as hitting coach. Don Baylor offered special assistant position. Rest of Rockiies coach returns in 2011.
I prefer "missionary" to "special assistant" position
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
Sup fellas. Y'all mind if I camp out here until the Giants win/get eliminated?
Game one is sort of a Washington Crossing the Deleware type deal, in my opinion. If Lincecum goes into Philly and takes just one game, you get momentum, homefield, and confidence. I can’t remember a time when Game 1 felt so important.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
u must agree to vote Posey for ROY
And the worst part, those fukin’ douchenozzles over at the MCC get to lord this over us.
also must agree to basic SIRM premise which states the following:
“SIRM”
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
so
I googled SIRM and all I found was the “Sher Institute for Reproductive Medicine”.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
i’ll allow it since SIRM always falls flat in the face of a Velezbian onslaught.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
sweet

"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean
I would, but Heyward’s OBP is just so dang nice…
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
1st rule of Bochynomics:
“You won’t take a walk because you will swing at the first pitch, thereby reducing your chances of taking a walk”
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
If it’s any consolation, I’ve hunt deer in Lee County, where Posey grew up…
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s funny… cuz i watched a lot of his postseason ABs and he seemed to be doing a lot more “STFD!” than walking
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 15, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
he laid an egg in the postseason
It was brutal
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am a fan of your sig, so you are cool for now. but I swear to god, if you drink the last beer, we’re throwing down.
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
No, go away.
STEPHEN REVETRIA strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
My advice: do something about the avatar or things might get ugly.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
lol, y'all beat us
don’t kick us while we’re down (Is McCovey Chronicles secretly The Good Phight in disguise?!?!?)
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
we’re all still reeling from that 1993 season you came back to beat us for the division title even though we both won >100 games. he’s not hating on you (i don’t think), just what your team represents.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
I’m just saying the giant Braves logo won’t necessarily be conducive to friendly interaction.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
/been changed to Uga
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
that was nice of you
and I don’t expect anyone to have to change their dumb logo when they post on another board, that’s why SBN allows joining other sites without having different logins or IDs. Sheesh.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No biggie. I suppose it can be construed as trolling if a big-ass stylized “A” is posted all over a former rival’s comment section. I’m just tagging along for the coming week since I don’t know much about the G-men but will be ardently cheering for them.
Hell, I’m just glad Johnny Disaster didn’t start immediately trolling me like satyricrash did…
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s more in the spirit of a good natured ribbing….
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
for her pleasure
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
DAMN YOU STANKUS
Beat me to my own self reply. I must be getting slow in my old age.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
SUCK IT, GRAMPS!
Sucking up to Grant for a mod position since 2009
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
2006 joke:
When Chuck Norris bangs a chick, he wears the ribbed condom inside out so he gets the pleasure
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose it can be construed as trolling if a big-ass stylized "A" is posted all over a former rival’s comment section.
Meh, if you find a board that thinks that way, they’re not worth your time.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Oct 15, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
OIC
hankschulman
Jimmy Rollins sez facing Giants in NLCS nothing special. “I wasn’t a Giants fan growing up. I was an A’s fan. If we were facing the A’s in the World Series, this would be a different story.”
They could be Giants...but not really.
FUCK YOU JIMMY!!
Actually Rollins seems like one of the more likable guys in pro sports.
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh. Please no
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Renteria money!
he will be available…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The all-star shortstop went on, “HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR [Oakland] TARP? GIANTS DON’T EVEN HAVE A TARP! WTF LOL!”
STEPHEN REVETRIA strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
East Bay Sleaze
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know the A's announced a new name yet
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
anything is possible:
see: Modesto Nuts, Albuquerque Isotopes, Flying Squirrels, your mother.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Come now, you’re hating on a team that named itself after a Simpsons reference?
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 15, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Faith is good
Can the Giants win? Yes they can
Will the Giants win? That is why they play the games.
We can pitch and we never give up. I think it will be close, exciting and horrifying all in one swirled up Scotch induced stupor.
It's better to be lucky than good.
Faith No More is also good
I have Midlife Crisis stuck in my head right now
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
at first mention of FNM
i get We Care A Lot rattling around up there. without fail.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
ahem
Kind Sir,
I request that you die in a fire.
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
Actually, his argument has merit.
I’ll allow it for now. Please proceed with your line of reasoning jhiat00.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Cake version is superior to both
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
FIRE!
Is too good for you.
When this .sig was awaiting the Final Sabean Apocalypse, I never once in a million years suspected it would be a "good" Apocalypse. Bengie... Don't let the door hit you IN YOUR GIANT ASS on the way out!
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game totally stalled and basically dead at this point
Dude
I would listen to that at least once
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Oct 15, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Right on
Song is good!
It's better to be lucky than good.
by Myemail21479 on Oct 16, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Wayne Coyne's twitter > all other twitters
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
Wayne Coyne in a giant hamster ball > anyone else in a giant hamster ball
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Looking way too far forward...
since next Friday would be a travel day, any chance Game 5 would be Orange Thursday (Naranja Jueves)?
No.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked them, to be honest with you. Better than our Sunday jerseys that make Melky look like Kool-Aid Man
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
In Zito-related news
The Phillies put Kendrick on their NLCS roster.
They could be Giants...but not really.
LOL
Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
watched the first 30 minutes of the nearly 1 hr long first episode. turned it off.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Really? I’ve never seen it, but a few of my friends were pretty big on it.
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
Adopted parent of good old Wendell, he tries so hard. You'll get a hit someday son!
by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 15, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Spartacus
Evidently I’m in the minority.
One problem is the guy who plays Spartacus has cancer and it’s not going well at all, so the show probably won’t be back.
this was a bit confusing
since Michael Douglas has cancer, but it was his father who played Spartacus in the movie.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
They’re recasting it, I think.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
"You all are just blinded to reality by your hatred of Armando just as the Bonds haters are." -grm
Thanks Yahoo Sports
Of all of the topics that could be written about the 2010 Giants…this is of course the most obvious:
PHILADELPHIA – By the time the dreaded "bust" tag is draped around the neck of a baseball player collecting obscene paychecks for negligible production, he’s usually become a clubhouse cancer (think Kevin Brown), is beset by injuries (Mike Hampton(notes)) or both (Albert Belle).
Then there is Barry Zito(notes). Pleasant fellow. Cool cat. Team-first attitude. Stays healthy. But a bust just the same, maybe the biggest in baseball because of his exorbitant contract: $126 million over seven years, with his biggest three paydays still to come.
i think there's a media code of conduct stipulation
whereby any mention of Zito must be followed by a mention of the word “contract” or details of said contract. Much like their code regarding Bonds and “steroids”, “PEDs”, “asshole”, etc.
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
breaking news from 2007
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting that's coming from Philadelphia
Because if Zito’s contract is the biggest bust in baseball, what is Howard’s contract going to look like ca. 2016?
Like Ryan Howard in 2016..
I kid, really….no reason to invite bad karma from The Good Phight . Like any Giants fan should be talking about fat guys.
Adopted Son: !Matt Downs I'll miss you my son.
7 stages of being a Giants Fan in the Post Season (sorry for length!)
Shock/Denial- wait, you mean we’re still in this thing? We’re actually going to the NLCS this weekend? /shows proof Sorry, I still don’t believe you.
Pain/Guilt-Wow, so this is real life?! I guess I didn’t need to sacrifice eleventy chickens and my liver if we were going to make it this far…sorry liver.
Anger/Bargaining-WTF! I have to wait 5 days between baseball games? I call shenanigans on east coast bias or Fox or something!!! If someone could figure out a way to make time go faster, I promise I’ll never bitch about Bochy, Sabean, Guillen, Zito, Pablo, (enter current Giants fan bitchfest here) again!
Depression/Reflection/Loneliness- /lying on couch with food wrappers and empty booze bottles littered everywhere mindlessly flipping t.v. channels, logs onto McCovey Chronicles "HELLOOOO? ANYONE HERE? I KNOW IT’S STILL 4 DAYS TIL THE NEXT GAME, BUT I WANNA TALK GIANTS BASEBALL…ANYBODY???…..so alone, so very alone…"
The Upward Turn-TGIFin FRIDAY! Only 26 hours 48 minutes and 35 seconds until game time! WOO HOO! You know, that’s not that bad, I mean, today is Friday, so it’s already the weekend, and Saturday is part of the weekend so the game is really just a couple hours away, right? Yeah, I’ll be fine, the game is just moments away…
Reconstruction & Working Through-ok, so what if it’s more than 24 hours away, I’ve got plenty of things to do to keep me busy! Organize my spice rack, oh, I don’t have one. I’ll go BUY ONE! Then I can go out in the garden, that’ll burn hours, oh, I live in an apartment….I can… no…wait! Darn it, naked baking was yesterday….GAH! Star Wars marathon it is….
Acceptance & Hope-I don’t know what I’ve been stressing out about. We’re in this thing, against everyone else’s expectations, against our own management’s seemingly utter incompetence, we are still in this thing dammit! What an amazing season, what a ridiculous team of rising from the ashes veterans and fresh-faced freaks we have! I’m not worried, it’s magic inside and out and the Phillies don’t worry me, really, they don’t. No, I’m not delusional, I’ve seen the stats, the graphics, I’ve heard the talking heads talk their nonsense, and it’s like water off a duck’s butt, my Giants will pull through with faith, trust and a crap-load of pixie dust!
GO GIANTS! :o)
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
by SoCalGgal on Oct 15, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Braves fans it's only 2 stages
Acknowledgement: Ah, in the playoffs again. Right where we belong!
Bitterness: First round exit again? Jesus Christ.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I am honestly surprised that the shoe isn’t on the other foot, especially the way we’re talked about (or not really) in the arena of the baseball universe, you would think either a) we aren’t a real team or b) we shouldn’t bother stepping on the field. But at least you guys put up a fight, we may have won the series against the Braves, but it was not easy!
also—just realized I forgot to bold #6 so it looks like I only put 6 steps and titled it 7 steps…but really, it’s how things go when you’re a Giants fan, it’s not pretty, but it works LOL
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
I guess a lot of it stems from the fact that you weren’t near the top of the standings for a good part of the season (I could be pulling this out of my ass, I wasn’t in the States for a while) and the fact that ESPN has sucked at providing comprehensive sports coverage for as long as I can remember.
"We should just concentrate on what we’re good at… Death Metal and interior design." – William Murderface
by Anthony Pace on Oct 15, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I pick E) All of the Above! I don’t even bother with ESPN, to many other sports getting in the way of the important one, but if I want incompetent baseball talk, I don’t have to go far, just 4 or 5 clicks down on the ol’ remote to MLBnet. /rolls eyes. I guess I just don’t get it, and maybe being surrounded by the bums and the friars and away from the bay area makes it worse cuz I don’t get local sports shows, but both those teams got way more air play and for what? one team imploded and the other ran out of unicorn blood-yet to hear the sports guys talk they were the second coming of the Yankees or something. Meanwhile, we have Timmy, Cain, Sanchez and Wilson and MF Buster Posey! It’s frustrating, it’s like, what do we have to do to get some well deserved recognition for these guys who have been amazing for us???
AT&T Park and Disneyland-so much magic inside!
Like with the previous series, I’m oddly confident in this team. During the season, I’d go into every game worrying that the Giants will lose. For some reason, I feel like this team can win every game in the postseason. Maybe it’s still that postseason high keeping me going.
oh GOD I want it to be the game already except I’m certain the Giants going to lose in humiliating fashion.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
What exactly is going on here?

Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
Come on, boys! Behave!

"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
First hint: She weighs the same as a duck
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Christine O'Donnell
Senate Candidate from Delaware/nutball.
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"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Sorry, I figured if I knew who she was, everyone knew
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/13/christine.odonnell.profile/
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
“You think Pat’s got a big bat…?”
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Baggs on Twitter
Sez Bochy will set the roster tonight after talking to players. Says nothing will be announced tonight, and he won’t say who will start at 3B.
Fletcher tweeted (see below) that the Giants would release their roster tonight. Case of he said, he said.
They could be Giants...but not really.
I might have misinterpreted
Baggs said “no roster today” which I assumed meant tomorrow, but which could, I suppose, mean tonight.
I wonder if Fontenot is starting at 3rd
Does Pablo make the roster? His splits would basically make him a LH bench bat, which is what Ishikawa & Nate are, so maybe if Fontenot is the starter they add a speed guy (ie Ford/Burriss) and leave Pablo off.
Now I’m not saying I want this to happen, just thinking aloud
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Pablo is definitely making the roster...
they’ll probably keep the same roster and drop Mota for Runzler/Zito
Sounds like no Guillen
Bochy says roster decisions made, but players not told. Won’t say if Fontenot is at third (but seems that way). Also will keep Ross 8th.
Bochy says Rowand will be on NLCS roster.
by kingofthacove on Oct 15, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Boo!! Ross should be hitting 6th, given his performance in the last few weeks of the season. I don’t want Uribe hitting with Posey and Burrell on base- he’ll just hack away and bad things will happen
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Junior circuit lineups
NYY
Jeter SS, Swisher RF, Teixeira 1B, Rodriguez 3B, Cano 2B, Thames DH, Posada C, Granderson CF, Gardner LF, (Sabathia P)
TEX
Andrus SS, Young 3B, Hamilton CF, Guerrero DH, Cruz LF, Kinsler 2B, Francoeur RF, Treanor C, Cantu 1B, (Wilson P)
They could be Giants...but not really.
LOLina
Sabathiatis strikes again!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
So no Lee until game 3?
Bummer for the Rangers…no guarantee he’ll get a shot at two starts.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
In keeping with my experience theory – if you can’t have Lee game 1, I’d want him to pitch game 1 in Yankee stadium, where he dominated last WS. This also gets ya Lee in a potential game 7. If having him go game 1 is ideal, i’d say 3/7 is second best.
in keeping with your experience theory
explain away why molina isnt in the lineup?
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine folks like you are going to make the NLCS win that much sweeter. Are you really trying to force me to troll for you after the series?
but what if treanor gets rattled by something?!?
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Why don’t you post some more passive aggressive comments regarding fan violence?
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
im not saying theres any danger
but its the implication
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
dude
how the hell did manuel allow halladay to start game 1 last week? the guy had NO experience, crazy…..
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, I see by your lack of commenting you aren’t anybody important here. You are embarrassing your peers here.
I would think post count and credibility are highly (though not perfectly) correlated.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think 75% of mine is saying “FUCK” in gameday threads. I’m basically saying if you’re a complete moron (as opposed to an incomplete one like myself), you tend to not stick around long.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it has more to do with his approach to just attack me for no reason that’s the bigger issue. If he was somebody respected here I’d feel more threatened. He seems to just be some random idiot.
calm down
no one is attacking you, i’m jesting with your whole ode to experience charade that you’re parading in here.
its a fallacy full of holes and the only one getting riled up about it is you
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not a charade or a parade.. or anything else that rhymes here. The argument was that it could be one of the few things separating the two teams at this point. If you guys don’t think the offense, defense, or pitching is really that different, it could be the one tiny thing that turns a big game and the series.
It’s not a fallacy because sabremetrics have yet to quantify it. If you don’t think an athlete has ever been the victim of pressure, you’re a fucking idiot.
hmmm well if its not a charade or parade
then well played, you deserve to get paid.
lots of intangibles separate the two teams (wow enlightening i know)
shall i aruge that our amazing clubhouse chemistry will be the X factor after coming back from a hardluck loss? we have the bounce back factor and I really think thats what it will boil down, since of course all the sabremetricians called it equal. come on
by posey yaknowsy on Oct 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking at your profile, I’m guessing this is your sock puppet account? It’s not like there are very many posts for you either. Of course that might explain why you got so rattled there with the lack of experience and all… seriously though, the reply fail angle would have been a stronger gambit.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you fucking serious?
You come onto this blog, start conflicts, and then insult your blog seniors, accusing them of not being important?
You, sir, are embarrassing your own fanbase.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
It really doesn't matter
The Rangers are going to have to win 2 games without Cliff Lee to win the series. This is true no matter if he goes 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.
Yes, but I think it’s important to win game 1 at home. If ya don’t it puts even more pressure on ya to win game 2. That’s why I didn’t understand the notion of Halladay or Lincecum NOT starting game 1. If the Rangers lose tonight, I’m sure they’d like to have Lee in game 2 to stop any early bleeding.
I think we've already had a discussion on what I think of "pressure"
The reason you start your best starter in game 1 is so that you can start him 3 times if absolutely necessary.
Lee has already said he’s not going on short rest, so it doesn’t matter when he pitches.
So you really don’t think there’s an advantage to winning game 1? To evening the series 1-1 in game 2? Surely you’d admit going down 3-0 is not ideal, so why is an early series advantage any less advantageous?
The first rule of the tautology club is the first rule of the tautology club.
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/why-having-cliff-lee-start-game-3-isnt-a-big-deal/
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
Q to 12!

Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 16, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL Bengie
Buster Posey>
"I thought he was going to punch me and I was totally accepting of it. I was planning a reason to thank him if he did." Brian Wilson on Buster Posey
More East Coast Bias!
On his pod, Bill Simmons described a Phillies-Yankees parlay as the “lock of the century”, and claimed that the “advanced metrics” on the Giants defense were “not good.” Did I miss something? Aren’t the Giants second in team UZR and first in UZR/150? Is there some other ESPN advanced pundit-stat I am unaware of?
"Baseball is a game played by the dextrous, but only understood by the poindextrous." - Professor Frink
Advance metrics = "slow, old guys"
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
I always loved this cover.
You could do the same thing from the LA perspective though.
Well, UZR needs very large sample sizes and the multi-season UZRs on some of the Giants likely in the starting lineup are not very pretty. Uribe is not good at short, Burrell is not good in left, Huff has been below-average at first. That said, the team numbers this season were exceptional, which starts to sound like maybe as a whole, they’re pretty good.
My bet is that there is a good bit of luck in the team’s efficiency, but that a few elite gloves (Torres, Ross in a corner instead of CF) can help make up for the more leaden ones sometimes. I hope the luck lasts.
UZR at the team level for one season is fine. Moreover, the team had the lowest BABIP against in baseball. Seems like they’re pretty good to me. And if you look at the lineup, they’re only really weak in LF, while they’re outstanding in CF, RF, C, and 2B, and average otherwise. Yes, they might play a couple fat guys on the left side of the infield, but those fat guys are actually average.
lulz
Red Sox in 5!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria takes over as Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Stolen from TGP

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
This?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
Bit of a hack, but good power
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby
oops i missed that
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
The Bear Giant
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Oct 15, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL ESPN

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Rockies run carneylansford.exe?
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew I liked videogames for a reason...
by 49 Giant Shark Warriors on Oct 15, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I loved reading that.
Also,
Giants outfielder Cody Ross, traded from the Florida Marlins midseason, continues his look-what-you-missed-out-on revenge tour by copping the World Series MVP, says MLB 2K10.
Cody!!
Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?
♥ 2010 San Francisco Giants ♥
♥ McCoven ♥
has anyone noticed Ross hits RH but throws LH? I just noticed that on SportsNetCentral the other day.
I can’t believe I never noticed it earlier. Probably cause he never played
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
some people, like timmy, throw R and hit L by nature, so I don’t know that people who throw and hit from oppo sides are any easier to turn into switch hitters.
That would be interesting to look into, just out of curiousity
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
lol. i tinkered with switch hitting during BP in college a few times, and had no luck. my left arm didn’t support hitting from the left side at all.
even if i could have gone switchy, i still never would have had an outside shot at the MLB. A .290/.330/.400 slash line in college isn’t very good
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m left handed but always felt more comfortable batting right (although I’m no more effective than Merope, from either side).
"Guys, here's 20 wins right here" - Aubrey Huff on his red thong
What's more...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104443-MLB-2K10-Predicts-World-Series-Winner
Apparently the game-winning and World Series-winning hit in the sim was a 2-run HR off of the bat of Cody Ross in Game 7. McCovey’s redemption?
Hmmm… gee thanks Giants marketing and PR dept. without that timely little email I would have never known that the Giants are playing a game tomorrow.
Giants Who?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Oct 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
surely you jest!
you mean that we are in or somewhere near this thing?
...Dr. Vader will see you now.
Doctor,
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
by slackersphere17 on Oct 15, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, now let’s see… on our daily check of stubhub we find bleacher tickets for WS game 7 going for $700.
But, hey! SRO for game 2… only $379 a ticket.
I guess this is why teams have parades and celebrations and such after the playoffs.
I found two SRO tickets for $200 apiece, but didn’t pull the trigger
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
SRO’s for the NLCS are cheaper. In the $100-$150 range – but considering they have a face value of $40 ? that’s just maddening!
My parents have some friends who they split season tickets in Sec 109 with, those people also got playoff tickets, so I’m gonna try to get the 109 tickets for Wed. The dude wants rediculous money for them, try $450 per ticket for NLCS
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
109 is a great section, we often try to get 108 or 109 when we do stubhub during the season. $450 for 109 is not as horrid as the $400-500 bleacher seat prices I’ve been seeing. Value for dollar, and really being able to see and all that juzz.
so the bleacher seats are running about the same as what I could have in row 16 of Sec 109? hmm, that’s tempting.
are the 4-500 bleacher seats for NLCS or WS?
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
there are some VR tickets for game 5 of the NLCS going for ~125 ish. SRO’s are going for about the same. I see some center field bleacher tickets also going for $125
I’ve never sat in bleachers or view reserve, TBH. The tickets I usually end up with are from the pool my parents take part in (Sec 109), or I buy lower box tickets on StubHub.
I like being close to the action :)
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
so do we. We don’t drive in for that many games, usually we go to one game a month, so we feel it’s okay to spend the extra money on really good seats. I’d have to say my favorites are field club 109, we haven’t sat there in probably over 5 years though!
Back when we had less money we’d sit in the cheapest seats we could get, and we’ve sat almost everywhere in the park.
VR isn’t horrid, unless it’s raining. You can kinda see things develop. Watching from the bleachers used to be fun, but I think as we’ve gotten older we just don’t enjoy the antics of the bleacher creatures as much anymore. The arcade was interesting to sit in.
i sat in the VR back in the ‘stick as a kid with my family, but when AT&T opened, I was 16 so i had money to buy good tickets- including seeing Bonds set the single season record. only ended up at the game cause of 9/11, they played all the cancelled games at the end of the year. anyhow, funny story, right after he hit 71, I went and bought a ’71’ shirt, then he hit 72. i went to buy another shirt, but they didnt have a shirt with 72 on it cause they didnt think he’d hit two in the game.
i totally agree with ya, if it’s not great seats, its not worth it. i used to have to take binocs to the ’stick, lol.
i would like to be in that box that is right down the RF foul pole, it extends into the brickwork, theres a little bar in there and all. right by the splash landing area. is that like a parties only suite, or can you get in there individually?
i want to try that next year
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad my bday is in November, or I’d get my friends to rent it out for a game next year.
only a few thousand though? split 20 ways, that’s well worth it at 100 bucks a person..
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
VIRGIN AMERICA LOFT AT MCCOVEY COVE
Nestled inside the brick archways of the right field wall, the McCovey Cove Loft can accommodate about 40 guests. The suite features a terraced patio with outdoor seating, which juts from the wall 10 feet above the playing field.
I could have sworn I saw like a $10,000 price tag on that somewhere, don’t see anything now.
there’s probably no prices right now cause of the NLCS. Even if it’s only 4000 bucks, that’s well worth it for a party. 100 bucks a person
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I was 16 so i had money to buy good tickets
This makes no sense to me.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
once i turned 16, i was able to work. my city didnt allow 15 year olds and under to work cause of school
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Game 3 ticket or cable bill?
Note: cable bill includes hi-speed internet.
Ryan Rohlinger lives in my basement. I let him out to play baseball.
That’s a tough one I think. I’d lean Game 3 ticket.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
cable bill. go to one game, but not able to see the rest?
by giant4life83 on Oct 15, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Go to bars. I suppose depends on where you live, Mr. Shanghai?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Oct 15, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Pay the bill.
I’d love to go to the game too, but as ticked as I would be that I have to watch the game on TV, I know I’d be even more pissed off after I got home and realized I was unable to watch most of my TV channels or go online for a long time.
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
by Gabafnerhagen on Oct 15, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s focused.
Utter frustration and futility.
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point I ALMOST don't care about the World Series...
…I just want to see the Giants beat Philly so Steve Henson will SHUT THE FUCK UP. His ridiculously fanboyish moonings over the Phillies with no stats to back up why they’re so great and why the Giants are so terrible (and he does take the time to claim the Giants are a bad team) is turning my stomach.
…ok, that was a lie.
I care about the World Series, too, so we can go in and beat Bengie at his own game, literally, or we can go up against the Yankees as the ultimate underdog against the ultimate AL East superpower. Winning either of those would be mighty satisfying.
It all starts with the game before us today. GO TIMMY!
But Steve Henson can suck it.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Gametime
Prediction: Giants score first and win 2-1,. A player gets thrown out at the plate in the 7th or 8th.
Long term prediction: No Giant offensive player will " get hot" this series.Cody Ross was our most valuable player in the Atlanta series with some great clutch hits, but still couldn’t be said to be " hot ". No one will step up and have a great offensive series. It will be a series where the heroes scrap out timely hits.
by War Years Legacy on Oct 16, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions
LOL U
Giants Baseball: The Thing Is, It Keeps Happening.
Proud parent of William Nuschler M.F. Clark.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 16, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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