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Around SBN: Jim Irsay: We Can Make It Work With Peyton Manning

The Giants are a perfect match. They play in a pitcher’s park and have been lusting for a main attraction since Barry Bonds. Can you imagine a one/two punch of Johan and Lincecum? Here’s my proposal: Mets send Santana to San Francisco in exchange for Matt Cain, Buster Posey and Thomas Neal.

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Holy Shit!

This is an entire mountain of stupid!

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 8, 2010 8:13 AM PST reply actions  

No! Er, I mean Yes, please!

  With the Budster stepping out of the Commishchamber the resulting chaos will be perfect for the Frankenstudios’ ringingly endorsed candidate – Calvin, who will then institute Calvinball rules – and anyone who’s ever played pro Calvinball knows that there are no rules!

  This will thusly allow Johannesburg RoseannaSantana to swing two bats in his signature deliciously ambidextrous fashion, garnering twice the offensive production of a normal hyoomin bean – thus more than accounting for the ragged hole in our future when Neal and Posey are removed.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Mmm, lust!

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 8, 2010 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

LOL

Is this real or is it a Steve Phillips parody.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Jan 8, 2010 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

The byline says “Written by: Eric Hamden.”

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

PORKINS!

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

ERIC HAMFIGHTERS!

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, no

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

by wjackalope on Jan 8, 2010 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

The Twins didn’t even get that kind of haul when they traded Santana.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 8, 2010 8:20 AM PST reply actions  

But now that Santana hurt himself last year it makes sense.

Wait.

by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Especially now that he’s signed to a long term deal which pays him far closer to his free market value too!

by speckops on Jan 8, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite part

He thinks we want Johan Santana because we need a “marquee attraction.”

Johan Santana: bigger in San Francisco than Tim Lincecum. Apparently.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

not just Tim Lincecum. THC-enhanced Tim Lincecum. That’s like a perfect storm of Bay Area marketability.

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Jan 8, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I usually just go to the park to see my favorite attraction, Lou Seal… gotta be kidding me

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

BUT LINCECUM HAS NEVER PLAYED ON THE EAST COAST JCB

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It would help get “those beaners” to ballgames

/freatgiantfan

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

But this still could work!

Just replace Thomas Neal with Aaron Rowand
Replace Buster Posey with Steve Holm
And replace Matt Cain with Henry Sosa.
Rowand, Holm and Sosa for Santana.
Done and done, bwana

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by Giantsfan4life on Jan 8, 2010 8:24 AM PST reply actions  

Can we do Whiteside instead of Holm? I like Holm.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

No, you're right.

And replace Sosa with Eric Stolp.
So Rowand, Stolp and Whiteside. Good!

Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!

by Giantsfan4life on Jan 8, 2010 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric Who?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

[cher voice] You can do anything you want baby [/cher voice]

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Jan 8, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

lulz

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey it’s Mike Dunleavy.

by faust10 on Jan 10, 2010 11:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

we cant have two 100$ left handed starting pitchers lol

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Lakers Fans= Terrible
Go C's
Giants need to sign Barry Bonds outta retirement.

by monta.da.boss on Jan 9, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

HAI GUYZ!

WE CAN RESIGN BENJI MOLINA TO A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT!

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Jan 8, 2010 8:25 AM PST reply actions  

I definitely want Bengie Molina to resign. Re-sign? No.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Grant

I needed a good laugh this morning

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I take pictures

by SoFa King Mike on Jan 8, 2010 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

When people e-mail me asking me to link to their site, I might put a FanShot up if the link is really good. But this…had everything. Posey, gone! Cain, gone! Neal, a throw-in! No hitters acquired!

Man, maybe the Giants can flip Santana for Fielder, though.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 8, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

/Grant doesn’t respond, so xanthan puts up league lead in FanShot spamz

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 8, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I’m sorry, were you saying something? I can’t hear you over all MY FANSHOTS!

by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

If I were .gif savvy, I’d create a “BOOM! FANSHOT!” .gif.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 8, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Paging SoFaKING!

#1 FanShot Champion

by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

/flagged

//awaits TimLincecum.com fanshot

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

I take pictures

by SoFa King Mike on Jan 8, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

more likely, they'd flip him for

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Tiny!!

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

His OPS+ was tiny for a corner outfielder, yes!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

At least AT&T was a pitchers park once upon a time…

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a problem I have with/something I don’t understand about park factors. The dimensions of the park have not changed. Nor have the prevailing wind patterns (over a few decades climate change could effect this) or time of year that games are played. There could be variances due to small sample size as it pertains to weather which should be the only thing that really effects the travel of a baseball except the whole which players are throwing/hitting them thing.

/auto-defenestrates

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I think weather discrepencies have a much bigger part in it than you’ve gotten in to. Weather itself is not static – it can be very different from year to year, so not only are you getting sample error due to random luck, but different years bring entirely different weather patterns altogether, so at that point you’re not even talking about samples from the same population. Temperature, humidity, wind….all things subject to fluctuation besides what we’d expect from sample error. Also, there are factors that could change things – like the construction of a large apartment building a few blocks away (like the one near the base of the Bay Bridge) may alter the wind patterns some. So I think weather can play a pretty huge role in changing park factors over time, far beyond what we’d expect out of sample error alone.*

*Note: I’m not a meteorologist, so I don’t actually know as much aboutt his as I’m trying to sound like I do, but it does seem to make a lot of sense to me, theoretically.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you make some really good points. I think I am (and maybe all of us) underestimating the randomness inheirant in an sample size of 81. Thrown on top of that all the additional weather stochasticity and poof! Not pitchers park anymore. It makes you wonder how people who run statistics for baseball players should factor in park-factors.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

"stochasticity"

W-w-w-whut?

A stochastic process is one whose behavior is non-deterministic, in that a system’s subsequent state is determined both by the process’s predictable actions and by a random element. However, according to M. Kac and E. Nelson, any kind of time development (be it deterministic or essentially probabilistic) which is analyzable in terms of probability deserves the name of stochastic process.

Cool.
I get to thunk Jr. with this when we hook up tonight for burgers.
“Secret new ingredient, Jack. I have no idea what it was or what it’s gonna taste like, but I’m gonna call it a Stochastiburger – and you get the first one.”

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Stochasticity?

I have been put in my place.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

This is what grad school does to you. It makes you use $5 words in public spaces. In the Environmental Sciences you will rarely see/hear the words chance or randomness, it is always stochastic or stochasticity.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I once read The Stochastic Man…

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I once drank Stolichnaya

by younghutch on Jan 8, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I once fell into the stochasm.

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by leftymalo on Jan 8, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m kind of skeptical about this, but it’s possible. I haven’t noticed much difference from year to year. Day games are usually warm and sunny, and night games are usually cold and foggy, every year. I guess I can’t say much about the wind or humidity, though. Still, 80 games a year is a pretty good sample size; for there to be a big difference it would have to be as you suggest, each year draws from a completely different population.

My theory is that the Giants don’t really have any left-handed power hitters now, so the “pitchers’ park” aspect is neutralized for them. RF in AT&T is actually a benefit to a line-drive hitter, because all the room out there allows for more doubles and triples. Obviously other teams do have LH power hitters, but the Giants are always going to make up half the sample.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

actually one big reason is that PFs are relative to each other

the main reason that AT&T has changed
1) Petco opened and it’s such a ridiculous pitchers park that all other parks get bumped up
2) Humidor in Coors, has the opposite effect – making other parks have more runs scored by comparison

I am not sure (depends on details of the calculations) but it’s also possible that because these two parks on in the NL West and teams play an unbalanced schedule that these two parks would effect AT&T more.

The weather might be partially responsible – really the only thing that ever suppressed offense in AT&T is that it’s very difficult for LHH to hit HRs due to the high wall and wind conditions.

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by zenbitz on Jan 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact that those parks are in the NL West would affect AT&T more, as I understand how park factors are calculated. They compare each players’ stats overall compared to his performance in the park of interest. Given the unbalanced schedule, SD and Col players would make up a larger portion of the AT&T sample than, say, Cubs players. The players in the division would have their overall stats deflated by the changes in their home parks, thus making their AT&T numbers look better. I think.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you to the McCoven for making a ridiculous blogger post from a complete idiot into an actual educated discussion on park factors and the “hitter’s park” myth of Mays Field.

by zuma420 on Jan 8, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no

They are as stupid as Steve Phillips.

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 8:34 AM PST reply actions  

They have affairs with unattractive 22 yr olds?

Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Jan 8, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Unattractive is an understatement.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

FTA
At the same time, the Mets save themselves some money for the free agent market in 2011 when Carl Crawford, Carlos Pena, Jayson Werth, Josh Beckett, Brandon Webb and Chris Young become available

Because the Giants should help the Met’s save money to sign Carl Crawford. It’s not like the Giants would need Carl Crawford.

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Jan 8, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

I don't see why this is so hard to understand for you people

the mets play in the east, the giants play in the west. Ergo, the giants’ sole purpose in MLB is to help teams in the east get better

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally understand now

Hilarious

Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe.

by Cannonballden on Jan 8, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I know...what was I thinking.

/has vision of Crawford in a Giants Uni….and he’s happy to be here
//2011 Rosterbation…

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Jan 8, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

FAKE!!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 8, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s obvious: the Yankees are going to want Crawford (Crawford, Granderson outfield combo makes me weak in the knees) and once a real team gets involved, Cowardly Lion and the Fearsome Frenchman will acquiesce and exeunt from the bargaining table.

by Every6thDay on Jan 8, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Cue the chorus of “Doesn’t want to play here” and “Not the kind of money we want to be spending” or “Will command the type of salary we cannot compete with”

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Minor League system AT BEST

by zuma420 on Jan 8, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

They can re-sign Benji Molina to a two-year contact

Wait, what?
Surely this is parody…

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

HIlarious because the Mets are the likeliest to do just that.

by speckops on Jan 8, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Why stick with the young (and cheap) talent, one of which we know to be very good (Cain), one of which is a super prospect who’s MLB ready, and another very good prospect, when we can overpay an old guy who will give us less than the market value we could get in free agency? Seriously. If we were interested in something like that, we could have gone after CC last year, or even just resigned Penny this year (Penny + Cain isn’t that much worse than Johan, and much, much, much, much, much cheaper and less risky)…

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 8:40 AM PST reply actions  

Other teams exist merely to help teams from New York improve.

Glad to see this phenomenon spread from just the Yankees.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Jan 8, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

It's no secret

The rest of the MLB = New York teams’ farm system

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

great minds

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

There is no reason whatsoever to try to upgrade on Cain

by ktice on Jan 8, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not, but if the Royals offered me Zack Greinke for him, you know I’d go for that in a second…

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, duh.

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

but that isnt happening

Bellineli, Gallinari, and Radman are my heroes!!!
Monta PPG> Monta IQ
Lakers Fans= Terrible
Go C's
Giants need to sign Barry Bonds outta retirement.

by monta.da.boss on Jan 9, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That might actually be the best move the Royals could make. It would HAVE to lead to Dayton Moore finally getting fired….right?

by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

genius!

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Jan 8, 2010 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

Mr. Site Over Lord;

Obviously this a terrorist strike plan and should be met with over whelming force. That is all.

Facecrowd memeber, daveinexile

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

HOLY SHINJO

now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.

by bondo on Jan 8, 2010 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

HOLY BOONITEZ

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

NEEDS MORE WRISTBANDS

/auto-defenestrates

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like camo-sweatbands.

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by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

NEVERMIND WHAT I DO

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

WOW

This cat is a real piece of work.

Blehhh!

by Giant Homer on Jan 8, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks like someone vomited on his arms and draped him in some sort of Star Trek costume.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Clandestine Operation

The guy works for the CIA, but can’t tell anybody.


“….He is trying to get ahead by spending downtime translating Arabic blogs and social networking sites, looking for the next generation of Al Qaeda, but anything he has found his bosses have brushed off.”

by E Ticket on Jan 8, 2010 8:57 AM PST reply actions  

GREAT MOVES, GIT R DUN SABES

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 8, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 8, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

lulz

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no way this could be serious. And I thought we put up some dream trade scenarios.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

I wonder whether Santana has any trade value at all at this point. He’s very good but he’s not the pitcher he was four or five years ago, and his contract pays him nearly $25 million per year for four years.

I guess the Yankees or Red Sox or Angels would pick him up if they put him on waivers.

by Evan on Jan 8, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

And he was injured last year

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to say something similar. Considering the injuries, salary, and declining numbers, I wouldn’t even take Santana off of waivers right now…

by GiantJay on Jan 8, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd trade for him

for some low-level prospects and if the mets paid 20 million of his salary

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Or if they took Zito.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Jan 8, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

well, yeah, there’s that. Santana’s net value with that contract and coming off of an injury is somewhere in the neighborhood of $0. So… “Here’s my proposal: Mets send nothing to San Francisco in exchange for Matt Cain, Buster Posey and Thomas Neal.”

Easily the best rosterbation of the year… nice find, Grant.

by pantalones on Jan 8, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Counteroffer: Lewis and Frandsen

At least that makes it even in terms of net value going both ways.

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by EliminateMe on Jan 8, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Lewis has some value. He’s probably like a 1.5 WAR player making the league minimum. That’s a surplus of at least $5M.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I still strongly believe if someone actually gives Lewis a full year of PT he’s a 2 WAR player, maybe even 2.5 WAR if you include baserunning (not much of a basestealer and his instincts don’t seem good, but speed is speed).

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always liked him, and he has been poorly used by the Giants, but I suspect that 2008 is the best year he’ll ever have. He really can’t hit left-handers at all, for one thing.

by Evan on Jan 8, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

True on the left handers, so maybe I should adjust it to call him a ~2.5 WAR player, on a rate basis (that 2.5 being per a full year) if he platooned, which would of course lower his individual WAR because he wouldn’t get a full season of production in. For what it’s worth CHONE calls him a pretty much a 2 WAR player – it projects him to put up 1.3 WAR in 14 replacement runs, so if you extrapolate that for a season worth of productivity, that’s pretty close to 2 WAR pre-baserunning….

I also believe in his bat a little bit more than CHONE…not much, but a bit. Bill James’ projection is higher for his offensive output, but those are notoriously optimistic, so not sure it means anything….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

He really can’t hit left-handers at all, for one thing.

Just Randy Johnson.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a real Michael Corleone move.

“Brian, you can have my answer now if you like. My offer is…nothing”

Sabes should avoid brothels and unattended drinks for a while.

Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!

by TMOX on Jan 8, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

This

Santana is no longer a superstar. He is now merely very good. Trading him straight-up for Cain is a dubious proposition as Santana’s injury history makes him likely to pitch fewer innings per season than Cain and those injuries are likely to make him less effective when he does pitch.

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by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And even when he does outperform Cain, we’re very likely to have a better team with Cain + difference between Cain and Johan’s salary than with Johan.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that just goes without saying. I was merely pointing out that Santana for Cain and no prospects could very well be tilted in favor of the Mets.

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by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That is the stupidest fucking load of bullshit I've ever read

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:11 AM PST reply actions  

I wouldn't do Cain for Santana straight up

Cain is cheaper, younger, not hurt, and not hurt.

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Sadly

I have so little faith in our front office, that I could actually see this happening. Single tear :*(

by GameSix on Jan 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

/drinks beer

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by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

/knows fear

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

/stabs deer

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 8, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

/Johnny Vander Meer

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically this guy is showing that he thinks the Giants FO is a bunch of know nothing morons who can be had pretty easily. Now normally I would agree with him…..if it were any other team than the Mets. What is worse, however, is what he is implying about the fans. He knows nothing about SF baseball obviously. Why do east coast writers think we give two fucks about east coast teams and players on those teams. How can you possibly say that Santana is a bigger marquee player than the back to back (and reigning) CY Young award winner?

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by AXmrdrir on Jan 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

The only way you can say that

is if you are a total ignorant fuck. Check and check

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

dammit

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

We're back in this thing.
The Giants are in a sense, the 2008 Mets – ready to win. They have a stud in Pablo Sandoval. They can re-sign Benji Molina to a two-year contact and now with Santana – have another pitcher who puts them over the top.

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by Juan Primo on Jan 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

Also no secret

All we need is better pitching.

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by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You all have totally misunderstood this.

See, what we do is trade for Santana to play left field. Seriously, have you seen him shag?

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by Giantsfan4life on Jan 8, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s leave his love life out of this.

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by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

you know it’s fake, they mis-spelled bengie’s name

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Weirdly enough, even Puerto Rico newspapers misspell Bengie’s name.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

re-sign Benji Molina

Wut?

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by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

With a gun and a bottle.

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by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Patrick Stewart does not approve

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by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s Sir Patrick Stewart to you.

He was brilliant with David Tennant in the BBC broadcast of Hamlet

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by SoFa King Mike on Jan 8, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He got knighted? How did I miss that? Good for you Captain Picard!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Huzzah!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Patrick Stewart is the man

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by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRpcqr89f0E

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

That's

SIR Patrick Stewart.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."


Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.

by natteringnabob on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

How’d it all work out for the 2008 Mets, anyway?

by The Double Deuce on Jan 8, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops, I should have scrolled down.

by The Double Deuce on Jan 8, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Darn

He can’t play centerfield for us.

/sarcasm

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by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

THANK YOU LORD

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

CELEBRATE!

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by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

/ ponders who to rotate into sig. Damon and …

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

morale would make more sense.

but then 2 or the orginal 3 have been avioded so do I dare mess with the mojo THAT much?

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

if you change it

and sabes signs jacobs…well, let’s just say shit is going down

by sfoakbay on Jan 9, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been thinking a lot about this, and I think the Giants are going to sign Rick Ankiel to a one-year deal with a 2nd year team option.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Phone Company Park would eat his DINGERZ for breakfast.

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by jcb9 on Jan 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

But he can play more than 1 position!

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by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Versatility will eat up Phone Company Park.

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by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

He’ll need to stock up on his HGH breakfast to counter those effects

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by SoFa King Mike on Jan 8, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying I think it’s a good idear. My completely non-insider read on this: the Giants want a LHH. LaRoche is their top target. LaRoche does not want to be in SF. Who does that leave? Damon? I don’t think the Giants want to give that kind of money and I think Damon really wants to stay in NY. Ankiel is a Boras client so that does represent a problem, but you can’t really shut-out Boras if you want to have top-tier free agents (whether you should ever sign top tier free agents is a different story), and it might be a sort-of good-faith gesture (not that the Zito contract wasn’t the bestest-faith gesture ever!).

Just riffin’

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

This line of thought is getting kind of scary.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you elaborate, I don’t understand.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I can see Sabean getting all fired up and buyng into it.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully he doesn’t read what I wrote!!! But yeah, he seems in love with 1-2 year deals these days.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Baby steps. It is better then 3 year extentions madness of a while ago.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought NY isn't bringing damon back?

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

LaRoche turned down 2 yrs 17 million (we don’t know how long ago though) but that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t want to be in San Francisco. If you’re seeking 3 yrs 31 million, you would obviously turn down 2 yrs 17. I have a feeling that 2 yrs 17 million sounds a lot better to him now if it’s still on the table, and since I don’t see any rumors involving LaRoche and anyone else, I still see the Giants as a favorite to land him.

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by rxmeister on Jan 8, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I am reading too much into the places he has lived and played.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

It just strikes me as Damon wanting to be there and too much of a feel-good moment for the Yankees to pass up. Once again, totally non-CPlanlawr expertise here.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

They haven’t signed him yet.

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by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Delgado maybe; Branyan

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Jan 8, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I love the Royals.

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

You really have to. They are the worlds greatest train wreck.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

They are great, arent they?

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by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually drove past their stadium on my way out to Ohio, and it’s a pretty neat stadium, not bad

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I have always wanted to watch a game there. It looks very nice on TV.

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 8, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

They were working on it when i drove past there a few years ago, but when i went there over the summer it looks alot nicer, just sad that the team just isn’t that good

by PiKAgiant on Jan 9, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

stadium looks awesome

too bad they’re stuck with royals

by sfoakbay on Jan 9, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you good lord baby Jesus.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear Wall Street shysters: get bent.

Choppin' broccoli

by SimpleJaquez on Jan 8, 2010 9:38 AM PST reply actions  

The quality of the comments there have taken a serious dive.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 8, 2010 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

BORK?

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by Yoyo on Jan 8, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Matt Holliday wraps up a busy day with some one-on-one media interviews

…and now St Louis can’t afford to pay its electricity bill.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

His nads must still be hurting from that fly ball. He continues to protect them!

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

You dropped your balls

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Jan 8, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Class, look at the flexion of the superficial muscles of the neck. It creates a ribbed appearance due to constriction of the tissue around underlying structures such as tendons and muscles. This is a wonderful demonstration of flexion of the platysmus muscle.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You are making this up!

There is no such thing as a platypus muscle!

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 8, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Or neck ribs!

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Neck ribs are great if you cook ’em long enough and have a decent dry rub.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Next up, McDonald’s introduces the McNeck sammich.

by younghutch on Jan 8, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Greatest picture ever.

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You can almost see the baseball giggling.

by younghutch on Jan 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Some things are always worth protecting.

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by EliminateMe on Jan 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

INTIMATE!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 8, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I think back on Matt Cain beaning David Wright in the head. Take that, Mets fans.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

Not cool at all

by GiantJay on Jan 8, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I was curious how others would take it. I could have said it in a much worse way, and chose less harsh words instead….

And come on, if you can’t laugh about something after the fact once you know nobody got that hurt, what can you laugh about!

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

But he did get hurt, and getting hit in the head could kill someone. Now if he got hit in the butt and it left stitch marks, that would be a different story…

by GiantJay on Jan 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

He got a concussion. Big deal. We enjoy watching NFL players hit each other full speed – watching the highlight hits later – and those guys get concussions from what they do all the time. You can die doing a lot of things – and the fact is, he didn’t, nor was there ever a point where it looked like he might. If you’re really going to make it out like him getting hurt was a big deal, I’m going to call you out for a ridiculous double standard.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t imagine you ever played baseball. If you did, you’d realize getting hit by a little league pitch in the head would be scary, much less a high-90s fastball.

And since I never mentioned the NFL, and I don’t really even care much for football, I’ll raise your double standard with a strawman…

by GiantJay on Jan 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Never played it past the age of 14, fair enough. And sure, like I said, lots of things are scary – once we know everyone turns out alright, though, often it becomes much easier/acceptable to look back on it in a different light. Whether that be a NASCAR crash, a football hit, or just dumb things people do in real life (see: Youtube).

As for this strawman stuff, given we’re talking about sports, and football is the most popular sport in America, I don’t think I’m offbase bringing it up at all. Maybe it doesn’t apply to you, personally, after all, I don’t know you so I have no idea whether it does or not, but it DOES apply to a large percentage of Americans, especially sports fans.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair points. Not a huge deal and nothing for either of us to waste any more energy on. I think it’s just seen as such a scary thing in baseball since while of course it’s possible on any pitch, it’s really rare and happens so quickly…

by GiantJay on Jan 8, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I just like getting into the details of how people react and perceive things at times – it happens fairly often where I just don’t understand how people in general can feel a way they do, and I find it interesting to try to get to the bottom of it.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting thought. When I was young we still had a wide spread use of wooden bats. Pitching inside was done even in sand lot games. Even a 80MH ball at the dome , by accident, gets your blood going. I am not so sure with wide spread aluminum bats younger kid experienced that as much. I know if I was on the hill as kid I was not so willing to throw inside when a metal stick was up. And there are posters here old enough to remember real MLB bean ball wars as well.

As for football look at the suit of armor they put on now days. This is not the leather helmet of my dad’s days or like rugby. And in ruby they have stretch sportsmanship rules to deter the head hunting mind set.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I never even thought about the difference in wooden vs aluminum bats in high school

I pitched inside no matter what the batter was holding. It was the only way to setup a slider off the plate.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 8, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Well pitched was the worng ad verb for me. Throw is closer to the truth. I would still do it but i deffinetly thought twice about it.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You could probably strike out Scott Rowand.

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by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

If I tried throwing inside to him now, he would probably catch the ball barehanded and throw it back to me. I doubt I could still hit mid-80’s these days.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 8, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I could ever hit mid-80’s

:-(

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by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Also,

I doubt I could still hit mid-80’s these days.

/makes Zito joke

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by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Please shoot me before I reach my mid - 80s

You have 35 years.
Get going.

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

/swings at slider two feet off the plate

No seriously, that’s what I would have done.

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by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact that NFL players receive many concussions does not mean that it’s acceptable or healthy. The more we study former football players, the more we realize how fucked up they get from playing that sport.

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by Skaldheim on Jan 8, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

True. It just fascinates me that it seems like the general population just really doesn’t give a fuck about it.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree entirely. PEDs are considered evil because they’re dangerous and unhealthy. Voluntarily subjecting yourself to repeated concussions, however, is something we applaud.

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by neurofarm on Jan 8, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And on top of that, while Barry Bonds somehow singlehandedly destroyed the world for all the kids these days, the NFL gets away with some of the most blatant steroid use ever….and nobody cares. What, half the Panthers Super Bowl team gets connected to a doctor giving out PED’s? Shawn Merriman tests positive for ‘roids, gets suspended 4 games, and is still voted into the Pro Bowl? Where’s the outrage there? It’s just amazing to me how we (people in general)….hmmm, can’t think of a proper way to word what I want to say. I just really don’t get how we apply such different standards to such different things, and I think it’s interesting to talk out with other intelligent people to try to figure out how it comes about, and why it happens…

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

/ golf clap

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Jan 8, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

rec’d

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 8, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe it, but any indicator you care to use tells me the NFL is the most popular sport in America….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

IQ? Kidding football fans, kidding.

Serriously, I was kidding.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What sport do you see kids under 12 playing most outside? I see a lot of football and I see Futboll and basketball. I see that last more often than the first one. I guess what I am saying question they guys giving you your measurements on this assumption. I think you will find they have vested interest in increasing the perception of how widely popular football is.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Because Baseball takes skill.
/stokes the flames

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by nvsfg on Jan 8, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

That an open field and at least 8 bodies and a ball thta always seems to get lost.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, when i was younger i got out and threw the baseball around with dad… but umm that ended quickly as soon as i broke one of his car door windows… But hey, basketball was an everyday thing for me, could play by yourself, football was fun, but yea i see alot of soccer, basketball, and football… baseball not so much, since you need the glove and a ball…

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

My brother and I used to play with a nerf basketball and an old tennis racket in the back yard… nerfs really break well, I had a wicked curve. No gloves, no broken windows.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

nice! nerfs were awesome! totally agree with not breaking anything

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Do kids even play outside anymore?

Besides ringtones on their fucking phones.
And I’m really loving the recess/extracurricular cutbacks.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Recess was AWESOME when in school, went out played some touch football, so much fun, that and playing basketball, just running around and doing things, didn’t have a cell phone

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

If my brother is any indication (and he’s only 6 years younger than me, but still young enough to barely even remember having to use dial up, much less a time before the internet was popular)….no.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL.
But hey, basketball was an everyday thing for me, could play by yourself, football was fun, but yea i see alot of soccer, basketball, and football… baseball not so much, since you need the glove and a ball…

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Jan 8, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

basketball’s the easiest, then football, although we’ve come up with some ingenious ways to play baseball with less than 9 people

by sfoakbay on Jan 9, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess what I am saying question they guys giving you your measurements on this assumption.

;)

Eh, I dunno if kids playing outside is a great way to measure its popularity. As long as you have a hoop, basketball is easy enough to play – it only takes 2 people, after all. Soccer all you need is a ball, you can easily find shoes/shirts/whatever to make a goal, and I believe soccer is the most played sport in America for kids, so obviously it’s well organized and kids are interested in it somewhat….but clearly it’s not very popular in America. Football seems to have the worst set up in terms of organized kids activities – at least where I lived, sure you could play pop warner, but not many kids did, and it wasn’t as prevelent or popular as CYO, or soccer, or Little League. As someone else noted baseball generally takes a bunch of people to play, so that hurts it.

But yeah, anyways, if you look at revenues, football was always the highest (though baseball was catching up, a good search seemed to only bring up 2007 results where baseball was only a little behind) despite playing only 16 games a season, they get the best tv ratings…I don’t think all the things I’ve read that proclaim the NFL as the most popular of the various professional sports were biased, it’s a pretty well agreed upon conclusion….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok the agreed upon conclusion by whom and what are their credentails?

And as far as revue is concerned you have to beaware of 2 very possible things.

1) if kids are playing a sport but there is not a lot of revenue thatn that would mean the guys with a lot of money just have not figured out how to milk enough revnue to suit them yet.

 2) Once someone advocts tying the ammount fo money it takes to get an NFL tv rights they realy are not that liekly to turn arround and say, ’My bad". In fact they have every reason to avoid admitting it.

Now I am not saying NFL is done or will dry up and blow away but the drum beat that it is "THE AMERICIAN SPORT " is bit of fluff P.T. Barnum would be proud of.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, just to add some clarity to my claim – I’m talking specifically about the professional sports here (NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR, NHL) in terms of popularity. I’ve found some references to an ESPN poll that put footbal first, basketball second, and baseball third (in terms of spectator sports), but I can’t find the original poll, so I won’t give you a link. The NFL also sells more mechandise than any of the other sports, so that seems pretty telling to me….

I’d also like to note the NFL is actually my least favorite sport – I love college football, but NFL? Eh, it’s ok. So I’m not going around to NFL specific sites – everything I’ve read on the issue has been from sources like ESPN….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

And isn’t ESPN heavy invest in NFL now days?

I think you get i not saying it is fringe sport or that it doesn’t mattr. I just think its important to US sports is a bit over blown.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, don’t worry, I get it…I’m just trying to throw objective evidence into my posts and you keep implying all my sources are biased. :(

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If you ever walk the streets of NYC in the summer you see kids playing baseball. Brings a tear to my eye. You can also see the history of baseball on the lots—bases and batters boxes spraypainted on playgrounds. Stickball boxes painted on walls.
 
I was always planning a fanpost asking everyone about the variations on baseball you played as a youth. Seems like every street or neighorhood in the NJ town I grew up in played a variation of the game: boxball, wiffle-ten, tree ball, gutterball, running the bases…

Nostalgic old dude is nostalgic and old.

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by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

i’d trade my kingdom (iphone and giants jerseys) to be back outside playing whiffle ball w/my friends, the good ol days. sigh

by GameSix on Jan 8, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Wiffleball for sure. In my younger days we did more home run derby stuff, trying to see how far we could hit it (since we were small and still growing), by high school we had our wiffle ball setup perfected.

Also, sucks that you grew up in NJ. :)

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist)

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

*HR derby stuff wasn’t wiffleball, it would be baseballs, tennis balls, or whatever else….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you actually downplaying concussions?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really, I’m more accusing our society as a whole of downplaying concussions. I’m just trying to discuss it on a relative plain to other instances – I feel like there are times when we DO downplay concussions (hence my NFL example), and I think it’s strange that the same injury seems to provke different reactions based on the circumstances it happens. My thoughts are a concussion is a concussion, if it’s a big deal, we should be a hell of a lot more concerned about what goes on in the NFL…or conversely, if we take the view that it’s not a big deal, why should we be so sensitive to this particular instance?

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

  You’re not sitting in the middle of your regular UFC/MMA/WWF crowd here that just wants nonstop entertainment without being bothered to stop and consider the fallen entertainer.

  We also read more than the average household. We’re more informed about what happens to the performers who pass out of the viewer’s eye, even if it’s just for a routine hospital stay. Step away from the assembled higher education here and the level of particular concern drops right off the table.

  Mainstream MMA America also needs to see an injury to bring home the idea that it even is one. If concussions made your head explode visually – instead of the slow, silent, secretive way they really do – they’d be getting a lot more talk on the loading dock.

   

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I’d really have to see a mass reaction directed at the NFL from this type of higher educated crowd before I’d really believe they’re really that concerned about concussions….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only drive my own car, etc.

I don’t want my son playing football.
I’m sort of fond of what comes out of his head, even if its a lot of frustrated sighing of late.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I am trying to avoid directing my comments at anyone in general, and of course I could be could be just off with my blanket statements of how society feels….but at least I think they’re fairly accurate. :)

by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I noted your restraint you used and I think we responded with similar restraint.

I am a big guy to laugh and question anything. The more NON P.C. the better. But in this case Cain never meant to hit him and guys can get killed or maimed in both that act and the retaliation. It just strikes me as too disrespectful of Cain, Wright & baseball not frown at it. Nothing personal just sometimes even a bad joke is dud. Lord knows I’v made plenty of the later.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha true, and I said it more in the interest of seeing what the reaction from the crowd would be rather than trying to make a joke. I was honestly just curious what people would think.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I woulda laughed but the joke was unfunny. And believe me, I know unfunny.

Maybe a .gif of the beaning & a title of: “This is what Matt Cain thinks of this trade:”

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

You see? Unfunny.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I agree, I was more concerned with saying it lightly than being funny. It did spawn the reaction I was looking for and got the discussion I wanted started, though….so for my purposes, I consider it a huge success.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Um no

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

DISLIKE

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 8, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Zito for Beltran, Wright, Reyes and a farm team

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

farm team

B/c do they even have any prospects?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

For Beltran, Wright and Reyes, they can throw in a couple of goats and I’d be happy with that trade

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

They have a bunch

Mejia, Martinez (not sure if he’s still a prospect), Flores, Holt, Davis, Havens…

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Jan 8, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

no

like, good prospects

by sfoakbay on Jan 9, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ummm

I only listed some of their good prospects…

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Jan 9, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

some of their good prospects

Key word – their. Their good prospects might not be good prospects, just good for them. :)

by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

All the guys I listed are actually good…

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Jan 11, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Prospects grow off trees?

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Could Someone try to get a post published out of this on Stalking stephen or whatever the f site that is

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by Cannonballden on Jan 8, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll take Santana

for Zito and Rowand. I’d even throw in a Sosa or a Merkin Valdez, just so the Mets can say they received some young talent in return.

by crazedcrustacean on Jan 8, 2010 10:17 AM PST reply actions  

I was just thinking the other day that our rotation needs more lefties…

But the Mets obviously cannot make this trade because Matt Cain is an evil, soulless demon who throws at peoples’ heads, so he’d be a clubhouse cancer. Every Met fan knows this…

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by tedfordfan on Jan 8, 2010 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

If the Mets want to make the kind of bold move to capture the back pages of newspapers and get people talking about New York’s "other" team, then there is only one thing to do: trade Johan Santana.

Leave it to Mets fans to aspire to simply “get people talking” about the team. Hey guyz, I say we one up the Mets this year and trade Lincecum. That would really get people talking about our team! Oh, and maybe that’s why people see them as New York’s “other” team in the first place.

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 8, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

It’s weird how much the “get people talking” goal seems to dominate the decision-making process of New York sports teams. Don’t they realize that all they have to do is build a winner?

by Evan on Jan 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, is it really a good thing to get people talking if what they’re saying is “Whatta bunch of f*ing idiots”?

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by EliminateMe on Jan 8, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Well to be fair, Mets fans have probably realized at this point Minaya isn’t going to build them a winner….so maybe they see that as the next best option?

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I recall Keith Law saying ...

a trade of Cain/Posey for Halladay might not be a bad deal for the Giants. I could be mistaken.

It would be interesting to see what kind of trade Minaya and Sabean could cook up. Maybe they could get Ed Wade involved so it would be a three-team trade.

by ErodCal on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Or

WHY DON’T WE JUST KEEP THIS GUY? AND IDK, MAYBE THE GUY NEXT TO HIM TOO

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I initially thought that the shutterstock lines through this photo were actually photographic evidence of the kind of power that could be unleashed from Tim and Matt closely approximating their hands. Imagine if they actually bumped fists?

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t cross the streams.

It would be bad.

by younghutch on Jan 8, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

"Egon, you said crossing the streams was bad."

“There’s still a very slim chance we might survive.”

Beat.

“I love this plan! I’m excited to be a part of it!”

by Every6thDay on Jan 8, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I looked at the trap.

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The flowers are still standing!

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Nice shootin, Tex.

by Every6thDay on Jan 8, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

"Let's split up."

“Yeah, we can do more damage that way.”

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

you are mistaken

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

I take pictures

by SoFa King Mike on Jan 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

The one good thing about this is if even a stupid Mets fan has heard of Thomas Neal, the kid must be pretty good. I’m surprised this guy even knew who Buster Posey was.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Jan 8, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

He probably thought he was pretty cool, finding a diamond in the rough like Thomas Neal though.

LOL I LOOKED AT THE STATS FOR THEIR SINGLE A TEAM AND FOUND THIS GUY WHO LOOKS REALLY GOOD. MOST GIANTS FANS PROBABLY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS, I’LL THROW HIM IN!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL I LOOKED AT THE STATS FOR THEIR SINGLE A TEAM AND FOUND THIS GUY WHO LOOKS REALLY GOOD. MOST GIANTS FANS BRAIN SABEAN PROBABLY DON’T DOESN’T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS, I’LL THROW HIM IN!

by sfoakbay on Jan 9, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL METS

I know I shouldn’t snicker, especially since it was the result of a wild Cain pitch, but this ain’t Wright.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 8, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

separated at birth

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by DrStankus on Jan 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh. It takes getting used to, but safety > aesthetics.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok, Rick Moranis does not count.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you.

/auto-defenestrates

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Comb the desert

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Jan 8, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

then the black dudes get screwed with the little comb

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

they used a pick

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Jan 8, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was a football player?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 8, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ve gone plaid!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a bummer that it’s the result of an injury, but yeah, it does look like he’s on that episode where all the characters flash back to their childhoods. I know safety’s important, but I can also understand why no one wants to wear ’em. Then again, maybe no big deal after awhile?

I wonder what the weight/balance feels like, though. Seems awkward.

by sakbaum on Jan 8, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

MLB should just make them mandatory, that might justify the ridiculous amounts of money these guys make.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

And really, if it was mandatory, nobody would feel stupid doing it because everyone else would be doing it, too…

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Like wearing the tight pants as part of the uniform

I bet once upon a time, Babe Ruth and company would laugh at the ballplayers in those tight pants with 6 pack abs.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 8, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I look froward to see the one our manager would wear.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually those are the new minor league helmets and Wright was one of the few that gave it a test run.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090831&content_id=6709576&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

David Wright sings Karaoke

“Hit me with your best shot, why don’t you hit me with your best shot…..fire awaaaaaay!”

22g

by 22gigantes on Jan 8, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s funny cuz the hat’s so big

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s what she said.

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

magnum

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by DrStankus on Jan 8, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a funny name.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Turd Furgenson

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Royals Agree To Sign Scott Podsednik
By Tim Dierkes [January 8 at 10:14am CST]

10:14am: Podsednik has passed his physical, according to MLB.com’s Dick Kaegel (via Twitter). The Royals are expected to finalize the signing sometime today.

It’s final. My nightmare has been avoided.

by DFAAurillia on Jan 8, 2010 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

I thought Jack Cust was your nightmare?

22g

by 22gigantes on Jan 8, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL Royals

Man, with Dayton Moore running a low-payroll team, the 1962 Mets should be very concerned.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

This makes me very happy

Dayton Moore beat Sabean to the idiot button.

by Your mother on Jan 8, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The idiot button wanted too much money AND didn’t want to be pressed in San Francisco.

by Every6thDay on Jan 8, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

We can now conclusively say that there is a dumber GM than Sabean.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Dayton gave us enough information to conclusively say that a while ago…

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this was a case of one-upsmanship after the DeRosa signing. Moore: “Sabean thinks he can show me up by signing a player who doesn’t help the team at all! I’ll show him! I’[ll sign a guy who makes my team worse!”

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just over at Royal Review

Those poor bastards.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 8, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

What a stupid trade idea

Trade for someone we don’t need while giving up three players we need. Maybe if they throw in Jose Reyes and David Wright, then maybe we’re talking, if we are going to talk about stupid trade ideas.

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"It's a process" - Brian Sabean
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jan 8, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

We’d have to take on $40 million in contract, so it’s really only fair if they take Rowand, Zito and Renteria to balance things out…

by GiantJay on Jan 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

More Mets Marquee Mayhem

Here’s a trade that the Mets simply can’t refuse…………..

Travis Ishikawa, Kevin Frandsen, Fred Lewis, Eugenio Velez, Aaron Rowand, Andres Torres, Barry Zito, Eli Whiteside, Edgar Renteria, Henry Sosa, and Ryan Rohlinger

for

Jose Reyes, Johan Santana and David Wright

I mean, just look at all those players New York’s getting for just three in return.

22g

by 22gigantes on Jan 8, 2010 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

Rosterbation Gone Wild

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

pass the lube…………

22g

by 22gigantes on Jan 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Uhh, I prefer to do it alone

in a dark room and in front of my computer with the MLB trade rumors website displaying.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 8, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I swear when I first read this I thought it was some kind of joke, mocking Brian Sabean and his tendancy toward bad trades, surely Sabes isnt even that dumb.

by irishgiant on Jan 8, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

Shift-A

LOL

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Jan 8, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Quick, go read the comments in the link. I think it’s satire, but I’m not sure if I’m smart enough to figure it out.

Author of the post sez:

I honestly think this is a PERFECT trade for you guys – pitching is what wins games – look at the ballpark you are in. You put Johan and Linceum at the top of that rotation and you are looking at a championship team. If Cain is so good, how come you couldn’t make the playoffs? Don’t get me wrong, Cain is a good pitcher but he is inconsistent. Johan is a PROVEN winner. He earns his money unlike that joke Barry Zito

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by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

He followed it up with this gem

Additionally the Giants averaged 35,335 per game during thr 2009 season which was 7th of 16 National League teams. AT&T Park’s seating capacity is 41,503. Johan will fill those empty seats.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Jan 8, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I love awesome visuals. That sir, is one awesome visual.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Credit where credit is due:
http://billsportsmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/mlb_attendance-map2009_k.gif

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

wow there are not a lot of teams in the west

I’m sure a team in Oregon or Utah could fill out their ballparks better than the Marlins or Nats

by superk1ng on Jan 8, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Other than CA, there really isn’t much of a population out west at all. Even CA it’s concentrated in the Bay Area and LA-SD.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Salt Lake city, portland… but yea, other than that, nothing

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The population density on the East Coast is incredible. Especially in the Northeast. It’s basically one continuous glob of city and suburb from DC to Boston.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The midwest is pretty crazy too though, there are a ton of people in Ohio plus just all over the place in the Midwest. It’s like that on the East Coast since there is not that much space but a TON of people

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh the upper Midwest is very dense. Milwaukee is basically in the Chicago suburbs and Minneapolis is a huge city too.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This is so true… But yea, the Bay Area is pretty crowded, LA is terrible, that’s why i hate it… so crowded

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno. When we drove from Chicago to Milwaukee once, it seemed like there was a lot of nothing between the two.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 9, 2010 5:25 AM PST up reply actions  

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So much black out West. It’s actually kinda funny how it’s almost the exact middle of the country where all of a sudden there’s nobody anymore….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

there’s nothing but wilderness there… More people would rather live along the coast more than anything else

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Except at least on the Eastern non-coast half, there are still people – enough that it stands out pretty strongly….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

RACIST

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like flying baseball caps are attacking the Eastern seaboard.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 8, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Independence Day 2: This Time They’re Flying Baseball Caps!

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Put a team in Vancouver

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 8, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Preferably the A’s.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Jan 8, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Or one of the Carolinas or something. The Braves control the entire southeast.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 8, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

lol Oakland’s tiny hat.

The baseball Satanist

by thehavenot on Jan 9, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Brewers posting significantly stronger attendance than I would have guessed.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Prince fills the empty seats.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 9, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

needs some green

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." -George W. Bush

by Ramah71 on Jan 8, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Oakland DFA's Tommy Everidge?

Id give him a minor league deal

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Jan 8, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

rec’d

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That is too good.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, I have meatloaf sandwich on my monitor now.

by toofruss on Jan 8, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It just gets worse and worse and then emerges from China like Marco Polo and is suddenly awesome.

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

erm

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." -George W. Bush

by Ramah71 on Jan 8, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG AWESOME

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 9, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought God only hates Notre Dame. Well, and Giants fans.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

It’s just personal stuff.

Now, the whole 2007 Rockies winning because of Jesus thing – THAT was dumb.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 8, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t want to start any blasphemous rumors
But I think that God’s got a sick sense of humor
And when the Rockies failed I know we both were laughing…

Oh. And this.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Or we could not do that

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Jan 8, 2010 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

This makes me miss Mike Fox.

by toofruss on Jan 8, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, I’m sure he’ll be around soon.

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by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, is it possible to trade the farm for Matt Holliday? maybe we could package, Bumgarner, Posey, Cain, Neal, and maybe Pablo? I mean, we don’t know if Pablo can keep all this up

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should trade Cain, Neal, Bumgarner, Pablo, Sanchez, Sanchez, and Fred Lewis for Jorge Posada. I mean we need a catcher to mentor Posey and because Buster can’t play 100 games. Posada must be worth all of those players because he plays for the Yankees. And, finally, we’ll get rid of Fred Lewis, who has really been the problem for the Giants during the last few years.

Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG

by goGSW24 on Jan 8, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

and a veteran Catcher, thank GOD!!!! LETS GET IT DONE

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me

"When I get up in the mourning I piss excellence."-Ricky Bobby

by 49er16 on Jan 8, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

how old is the guy?

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." -George W. Bush

by Ramah71 on Jan 8, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH thats the funniest shit i have ever heard !!!!!!!!!! Never going to happen , not even sabean is that dumb ! i says we trade zito for santana , they both have horrible contracts

by BillyMaysHere on Jan 8, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Stalking Steve Phillips might be the greatest name for a blog I have ever heard

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jan 8, 2010 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

OT -- Carroll going to Seahawks?

Apparently he’s already assembling a staff, and SC is courting Mike Riley from Oregon State

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Jan 8, 2010 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

Pete Carroll is pretty frakking stupid.

by Every6thDay on Jan 8, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yea this isn’t a great idea… he’s got a great situation down there at SC, and now he’s going to Seattle to try and revive a MEH team

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Smells like USC could be in trouble for recruiting violations and/or the Mcknight and Reggie Bush stuff and Carroll is getting out before the shit hits the fan

by DFAAurillia on Jan 8, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Its almost exactly this. HE knows that the probes are going to strike gold and he wants to be outta there when it happens.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Hasn’t he already failed miserably at NFL coaching?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that Bill Belicheck guy failed pretty bad his first time around, too….

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Did coach as an assistant for the niners

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He failed

But I don’t know if I’d call it miserably. 6-10 in one season with the Jets, then 10-6, 9-7, and 8-8 with the Pats. (Pats lost six of their last eight in his final year, leading to the axe.)

I didn’t follow the Pats that closely back then, so I don’t have a real opinion on his coaching ability. He inherited a Super Bowl team from Parcells and underachieved, in the view of ownership. Take this with the appropriate grain of salt, but I do know that “Boston Sports Guy” Bill Simmons thinks Carroll is a terrible coach.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually he didn't do that bad

33-31 overall record and went to the playoffs twice too but I guess he was canned because at that time he was a newish head coach in the NFL. If he were to duplicate that in Seattle, they would be overjoyed.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 8, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be awesome. F USC.

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t wait till Pete Carroll goes to the Seahawks and destroys both USC and the Seahawks!

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 8, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

In all honesty though, when i look at the AFC north or a competitive conference like that, i just hope the NFC west can get that way, it’d be so much more fun to watch, and hey, when you look at the Seahawks, who else was out there?

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what would be really fun to watch? A functional, playoff caliber 49er team. Forget the rest of the division.

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 8, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

true that, but a good division would be awesome

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It'll be even funnier

when he fails again in the NFL. At least this time he can legally pay players money to come play for his team!

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 8, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, Grant, so cruel. XD

... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time

by shanghaijim on Jan 8, 2010 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

This hasn't been mentioned yet as far as I can tell

Santana has a full no-trade clause, so, uh, lol.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."

by GiantPain on Jan 8, 2010 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

Crazy Trade Proposal Update
okay you convinced me that you don’t need more pitching… how about Pedro Sandoval and Aaron Rowand for Carlos Beltran, Daniel Murphy and Angel Pagan

Murphy would do well for you since he is a doubles hitter. You get more power with Beltran and Pagan, if given the opportunity could really thrive with you guys

by chilibean_3 on Jan 8, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Pagan?

you mean like paganism?

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

A Pagan Angel?

Instant nickname: Oxymoron.

by younghutch on Jan 8, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I accept!

pedro sandoval and rowand it is

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Jan 8, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Now we have to find a Pedro Sandoval, quick!

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

http://pedro_sandoval.com/shop.asp

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

PEDRO SANDOVAL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Careful, he might be doing it to us. The Giants could end up with Jose Pagan and Dwayne Murphy.

by younghutch on Jan 8, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Steal of the century
ESPN reports due to a clerical mistake on the Mets’ part, they have acquired IF Pedro Sandoval and OF Aaron Rowand while OF Carlos Beltran plus 2 other players will be heading to San Francisco. Pedro Sandoval was signed by the Giants a mere 2 days ago and is not nor related to their 3B Pablo Sandoval. More at 8.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 8, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Player to be named later is reported to be SP Dirty “Jonathon” Sanchez

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 8, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He must be like 12 years old

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 8, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Breaking down.

He’s getting progressively worse with his comments.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 8, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, what the fuck?

In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Jan 8, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone just tell that guy to shut the hell up and let’s be done with him. Next.

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 8, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Man its fucking cold! Its gonna make dressing for the plane to Costa Rica quite challenging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

I’m sure you’ll understand that I mean no offense when I say: Get bent.

by taliesin on Jan 8, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA!!! SUCKAHHH, i’m goin to CINCY!!! HAVE FUN IN COSTA RICA

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

And…LOL Obamacare STOP HIM NOW AD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 8, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

OT: Wow, looked on ESPN and the rumors page, clearly says “Niners after Cribbs?” it would have to be a trade

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

oh and congrats to Rice and Craig for finalists for the HOF

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s to Craig not fumbling his acceptance speech!

by Every6thDay on Jan 8, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck that man, that was very disturbing

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But CRIBBS WOULD BE BETTER… haha, apparently it would have costed just a few 2nd rounders at the beginning of the season to get him

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Should be something like Niners after competent QB; Offensive coordinater.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 8, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Shouldn’t be with the BRowns… If they let Cribbs get away, the town would riot

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

But seriosuly guys,

Why can’t Shaun Hill be the next Tom Brady?

by chilibean_3 on Jan 8, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Never been on Entourage?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Jan 8, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Scott Rowand looks like Drama

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

4:05pm: Royals GM Dayton Moore tells Sam Mellinger of the Kansas City Star that the 2011 option becomes a mutual option after 550 plate appearances (Twitter link).

3:57pm: Rosenthal tweets the specifics: it’s a one-year $1.75MM deal with incentives that could bring the deal’s value up to $2MM. The Royals have a $2MM (plus incentives) option for 2011 that Podsednik can void if he reaches 525 plate appearances this year.

Moneys not bad but LOL on it being potentially for 2 years

by DFAAurillia on Jan 8, 2010 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

So the question is – will Dayton Moore realize how bad Posednik is during the season and stop playing him long before the incentives kick in….or does he compound his mistake in a very Sabean-esque manner?

by Missing Barry on Jan 8, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I smell midseason contract extension!

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 8, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could write stuff that dumb on my blogs and get hundreds of free visitors like that guy just did.

Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info

by cybermaldonado on Jan 8, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

But enough about Grant.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Jan 8, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Mike Fox made the worst posts.

Now I think Grant makes the worst posts. Just stick to 2nd tier free agents and the farm system. If I were the Mets, I would do that trade before the Giants sobered up.

by northbay on Jan 8, 2010 8:18 PM PST reply actions  

You suck, Grant.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 11, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah!

No no no no way anybody with a brain accepts that on the Giants’ side.

by dregarx on Jan 8, 2010 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

“I want a hot dog and a hamburger and a….”

“YOU’LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT”

by VidaWantsYourCar on Jan 9, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

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