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Brian Bocock claimed off waivers

I’d like to write it’s the end of an era, but that’s not true. It’s just the end of an easily identifiable trademark of the current era. Brian Bocock, praise be unto his defense, was claimed off waivers by the Toronto Blue Jays. I can almost understand the move from Toronto’s point of view – if you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just show off a strong throwing arm and good range and people will try to catch you because, hey, free defensive-minded shortstop.

Star-divide

It’s debatable whether or not the Giants did Bocock a favor by making him the Opening Day shortstop in 2008, or if they hurt his development. I’d go with the former. He got a pay boost for a few weeks, and he got his face on a baseball card, which is something a lot of professional baseball players aren’t going to be able to say. It remains a longshot for Bocock to ever be even a passable role player in the majors – stranger things have happened, don’t get me wrong – but he’ll always have that feeling of standing out in the field on April of 2008 and playing in front of 40,000 people. I’d do some goofy things to have that same feeling just once in my life.

But Bocock will always stand out to me as a symbol of Brian Sabean’s disregard for minor league statistics. It’s not that Sabean ever thought that Bocock was going to be anything other than a light-hitting defensive shortstop; it’s that Sabean thought Bocock could fake it long enough to buy time until Omar Vizquel returned from an injury. Bocock was a shortstop who was just six months removed from hitting .220 in A-ball and was just over a year removed from playing for Stetson University. But he passed over whatever AA or AAA shortstop should have been in place in the event of an emergency – Ivan Ochoa, in this case – to go with Bocock. Why? Not entirely sure, but I can guess:

Because minor league statistics don’t mean anything, Bocock probably wouldn’t hit any worse than utility shortstops throughout the league, but his defense would make him more valuable than any sort of waiver wire shortstop the team could dredge up.

Is that about right? Because when Bocock struggled, the team brought up Manny Burriss, who had done even worse in the Cal League the year before. That move was like trying to put out a kitchen fire with a speech – at no point did it even pass through the orbit of something that made sense…unless you don’t think that minor league statistics mean anything. Like, anything.

Unfortunately, Burriss hit well for his last 100 at-bats, and then he did well in the spring. But that’s a Sabean-related post for another time: "Why Small Sample Sizes Are More Trustworthy Than Large Sample Sizes." This is a post about Brian Bocock: defensive juggernaut, light hitter, lightning rod for inappropriate puns, and metaphor. After hitting .143 in the majors, Bocock hit .163 in AAA. He did boost it up to .241 in his second go-round in the Cal League as a 24-year-old.

In the winter of 2008, Sabean looked at his roster, saw a 40-year-old shortstop penciled in as a starter, looked through the organizational depth chart, and thought, "If Vizquel gets hurt, unlikely as that may be, we can probably make do by bringing up Brian Bocock. It wouldn’t be an ideal situation, but how bad could he be?" He then resumed not thinking about a legitimate backup plan for a 40-year-old shortstop. This is because minor league statistics are useless.

Also, Bocock.

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/notices it turning

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

With every mistake

We must surely be learning?

Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.

by tobias on Jan 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know why-hy-hy

by dregarx on Jan 7, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No one alerted you.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Why WAS Bocock?

Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.

by tobias on Jan 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

How was Bocock?

Preemptive TWSS

by speckops on Jan 7, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY DID I BOCOCK??

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY BOCOCK WAS BOCOCK?

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Jan 7, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

R.I.P.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

It's peaceful and boring.

Generally, a good place for an undisturbed snooze.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jan 7, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to care about this

but then i just kept living my life

Pablo > mankind

by Meatball on Jan 7, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

it's hella cold

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It's helicoiled?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I will miss this puppet username

R.I.P.

"Let’s just put it this way," Bocock said. "I can’t imagine what 100 milligrams does to you."

by Bocock's Viagra on Jan 7, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Can someone out the puppetmaster now?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Too soon.

now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.

by bondo on Jan 8, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

SHOULD OF LEFT HIM ON ROSTER

WHAT R U DOIN GIANTS BRAZZZ!!!!!!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 7, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

That's It!!

I give up on this team >I<

Blehhh!

by Giant Homer on Jan 7, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

First one of 2010!

FUCK THIS TEAM

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

I have one of those!

I’ll miss seeing him at spring training.

Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

by RichH on Jan 7, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Did that really happen?

now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.

by bondo on Jan 8, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Shouldn’t use “small sample size” and Bocock in same sentence.

"What makes you think you're Jesus Christ?"
"Well, when I pray I seem to be talking to myself"

by Jigglefish on Jan 7, 2010 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

He absolutely should

that’s the point!

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

And now we say goodbye to the finest chant baseball has ever known
Maybe just once more for old time’s sake

BO….”

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

The BlueJays, even though they didn't re sign Scutero

Have now managed to collect three Short Stops this offseason (including re-upping John MacDonald, possible Bocock’s best upside comparison).

Gotta collect them all!

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.

Goals on Film, coming to San Francisco in 2010

by bobnothing on Jan 7, 2010 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Second basemen are where it's at!

Freddy Sanchez
Mark DeRosa
Juan Uribe

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Emmanuel Burris
Kevin Frandsen

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit, I miss Jeff Kent.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Downs.

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Jan 7, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

crazy idea

Could Bonds come back…and play second?

by Into the Void on Jan 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda like Sabean’s centerfielder binge of a couple years ago…

I’m glad to see we’ve moved on to secondbaseman now.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jan 8, 2010 7:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

What is a Bocock?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 7, 2010 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

You know….I don’t think I’ve truly ever asked myself that question.

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BRUCE BOCHY PLAYER EVALUATION

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 7, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

BORK!

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If by ‘everything’ you mean ‘nothing else’

Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry

by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Just wait and see, he’s going to be right about Edgar Renteria this year!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

No way!

Really. He said that? How? Wh-wh-why? I mean…seriously?

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jan 7, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

GIVE THAT MAN A TWO YEAR EXTENSTION!

THEY DID? GOOD! BECAUSE HE’S AWESOME AT EVALUATING PLAYERS!

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, he doesn’t actually claim he’s a major league hitter.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a little creepy with the 1985-2010 script

It seems like he died, but you should have put 2006-2010 as that signifies his Giants’ career is dead.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

XANTHAN WUZ WRONG!

Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry

by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Owen Meany.

Prophet extraordinaire.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That OBP is Molinaian.

by Every6thDay on Jan 7, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The Mets’ blog had a tombstone for Bengie too, I think it read OBP: .294 WT: 295

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That is awesome. Genuinely Amazin’.

by Every6thDay on Jan 7, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The Molinaian Falcon ran from 1st to 3rd in less than 12 parsecs minutes.

Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry

by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The Molinaian Falcon doesn’t do Walks. Nay, it was the Kessell Lumber.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

/auto-defenestrates

something something jhiat00 will swindle

Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story

FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 7, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Molinan…

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jan 7, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL the difference in BA and OBP

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Jan 7, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude cheated the game.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Those numbers are absolutely disgusting.

by Owner on Jan 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

YES

I APPROVE

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Jan 7, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I wish maybe Bocock would visit this blog and sign up

so he can defend himself.

As it is, adios Bodick and hope you enjoy Canada’s finest bagged milk.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

Bag of milk? Come on, man!

by Every6thDay on Jan 7, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on, hoser.

What’s that aboot, eh?

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jan 7, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Bodicker?

Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by Cody_ransom on Jan 7, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

MMMMM WAIVERS

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

I think I would watch it.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Alright so you have two teams playing for global bragging rights. You have to call it the World Series, right?

by snafu on Jan 7, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Galaxy Series....

has a nice ring to it.

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, just Local Spur Series.

... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time

by shanghaijim on Jan 7, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I would watch that.

by quincy0191 on Jan 7, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the memories. Now go back to not hitting doubles.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

THAAAAANKS FOR THE MEMORIES!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell is she wearing on her head?

One minute I think it’s a giant squidhead, the next minute it’s a Chinese pagoda.
With a feather!

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the strangest roster decision in the history of baseball. Fare thee well, Bocock.

by Evan on Jan 7, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Or

Sabean knew something we didn’t. Look how fast he was claimed. :-)

Let's bring the...

by Swager on Jan 7, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy

He goes for Bocock

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

HOT

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

We need him back....

Cain 4 Bocock?

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jan 8, 2010 7:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Which was the strangest roster decision in the history of baseball?
a) Making Bocock the Opening Day shortstop in 2008
or
b) keeping Bocock on the 40-man roster in September 2009 over, say, Steve Holm, thus starting Posey’s clock early, while Posey barely got to play?

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Jan 7, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

C:

Paying cash money for free agent Brian Boco… er, Neifi Perez.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Jan 7, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

d) Beginning the season without a backup catcher.

Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry

by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

e) Signing Tucker early to dodge a dreaded draft pick

(also note: Tucker is FLewis’ #2 Zips comp)

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jan 7, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking A.

by Evan on Jan 7, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

now he is thinking, " eh?"

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 7, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone here told that Vizcaino played a bit of 1B for us once. I don’t know the circumstances, but I would think that at least gives Bocock a fight.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 7, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

We re-signed him as a utility INF, but at that point he couldn’t really play much other than 1B.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

2006!!

What a season!!

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 7, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that

It was horrible

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only imagine.

Though, if you think about, whenever Bochy benched Garko against a LHP last year, that was the equivalent of starting Renteria at 1B.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 7, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s terrifying, really.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 7, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really miss Felipe Alou.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Jan 7, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish we could say that about Bork.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He was pretty funny, always saying bizarre things.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

And then Vizcaino went on to win a World Series ring in the same year.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a management decision, not a roster decision. But it was kind of similar, in that you could imagine Sabean slapping his forehead on opening day and saying, “Shit! I forgot to get a first baseman! This never would have happened if Ned were still here!”

by Evan on Jan 7, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

Bocock’s ascent reminiscent of Speier

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

Not Haft’s finest moment.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Has he had any?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 7, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

In Haft's defense . . .

On the other hand, why bother. Sorry to have troubled you all.
No, I’m going to do this. Would you take Chris Haft’s job if it was offered you?
You get great seats for every game, for free. AND
You get to meet the players, AND
You get paid to write about the Giants. BUT
You don’t get to tell the truth. Your job is to write puff pieces, spinning every insane FO move as brilliant. That’s your job. Spin. As in . . .
A 20 year old who hit .267 at AA=a 23 year old who hit .220 in A ball. They’re basically the same player. I mean Chris Speier!?!?!? Are you fucking kidding me!?!?!?!?!

Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!

by Giantsfan4life on Jan 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s a bad person. I just think his columns are ridiculous.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Jan 7, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure he has to write puff pieces that spin every move as a great one, I just think he’s an idiot (Mike Jacobs anyone?). Baggarly and Schulman don’t laud every move the FO makes and they keep their jobs.

by quincy0191 on Jan 7, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

but they're not working for MLB

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

by wjackalope on Jan 7, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

There were some Mailbags where he knocked some people down a peg.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously? Who? When? You can’t tell me he criticized Sabes? Or Boch?

Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!

by Giantsfan4life on Jan 7, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

some people = letter writers who think a Sanchez/Lewis/Frandsen package might get us Hanley Ramirez.

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Jan 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Also
Coolest Moment: “I was with the Blue Jays in ‘02 and I came in to pitch at Dodger Stadium for the first time (June 20, 2002). I grew up a Dodger fan. I went to a few games as a kid. I saw Dusty Baker play live as a kid. I got his autograph, and then he was my manager, which was pretty cool. Stuff like that I’ll never forget. I don’t even remember who I faced that day.”

Retire in peace, Scott Eyre.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

OT: LOL RAIDERS BRASS
A day after the Raiders rebuffed an offer of help from their former quarterback, Gannon said on Sirius NFL Radio on Thursday that “I won’t make that call again.”

Gannon said on his show Wednesday that he had called team owner Al Davis to offer any help for the organization and struggling young quarterback JaMarcus Russell. The Raiders responded that Gannon was the one who needed help.

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Jan 7, 2010 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

I hope the Raiders never change

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

me neither

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Darn young'ns

They have changed. Just not for the better.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

right

change doesn’t necessarily mean improvement

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 7, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Al Davis makes this Niners fan happy.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

the faiders are such a joke !

by BillyMaysHere on Jan 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

There are those of us...maybe three...

…who will admit to being Raider fans back in the day.
(“What day, Vic?”)
Funny you should ask – I was just going to tell you.

Well, John Madden wasn’t always a broadcaster, you know…

And Before Snake Plisskin there was this Stabler guy.

And a Guy guy.

And a Ghost.

And an Assassin.

And quite possibly (outside of Jack Tatum) the ugliest man in the NFL, who later had a pat of butter smack him in the head in Car Wash.

And two brothers who shared the same non – number.

And some dude with veteran scrappy grittitude who not only threw touchdowns but kicked field goals as well.

And the Raiders – I know this is hard for you Crackalakin’ types to comprehend – were fucking awesome.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of us remember when the Coliseum was known as the “House of Miracles” instead of the House of Embarrassment.

…oh and don’t forget running backs from Colgate, stickum and Freddie B.

by Merope on Jan 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember those days.

When I was about 14 I even had a John Madden t-shirt that said “100 In 10” on it. I had to explain to nearly everyone what it meant.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Jan 7, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

what does it mean?
btw i did my due diligence and kicked googles tires but nothing came up. dont twss that.

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

100 wins in 10 years

I found it on google! SUCK ON THAT

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct

Also note that 9 of those 10 seasons were before the expansion of the season from 14 to 16 games, so it was a more notable achievement then.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Jan 8, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

This was before they became the LA Traitors.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He always gets foiled by Link, so maybe he does.

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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The Raiders responded that Gannon was the one who needed help.

This is gold, I LOL’d hard.

If only lacking common sense and making horrible top draft picks win Super Bowls…

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the Raiders five years old?

by GiantJay on Jan 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Their owner is.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

regression

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Regression to the petty.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Jan 7, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Last Dance With MaryJane…Timmy

/Ducks

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 7, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Gannon has taken some pot shots at the team all season. Not that they weren’t true…

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

they are seriously screwed up. Like, really bad.

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Warning: Gratuitous butt kissing

I am once again reminded what an excellent writer you are, Grant. This was a fun read.

Noonan. Nooooonan!

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jan 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Giant Fan in Singapore and Grant’s butt sitting in a tree…

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Singing Butt Pee? Never mind. I don’t want to know.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 7, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

P-I-S-S-I-N-G

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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Providing balance...

You suck, Grant

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Jan 7, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

"Deep"

(Don’t think we didn’t miss the Jack Handley ref either)

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jan 7, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Favorite Jack Handy quote:

One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to DisneyLand, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said, "DisneyLand burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real DisneyLand, but it was getting pretty late.

Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry

by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw.

by kdl on Jan 7, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

HE WAS MY ADOPTED GIANT!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Jan 7, 2010 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

T….W….SS…..overload

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Very probably when working on B(lue) Jays.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Jan 7, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Blewcock

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Jan 7, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

New team nickname:

Toronto Blue Balls

by crazedcrustacean on Jan 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

Goofus getting the most out of his last Bocock comment.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m so gonna miss him

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Jan 7, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Jan 7, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Down to the last drop.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

bocock, nothing comes closer to home

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

INTERNET SITE LINKS BLUE JAYS NEW SS TO CASTRATION!

Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry

by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping the Mariners would claim him!

I even made this just before he went to the Jays

by Dewey N on Jan 8, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 9, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLOL

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Very Deep

Those are very deep thoughts about Bocock, Grant. I never liked Bocock; I think it was because one time, I went to a SJ Giants game, and Brian Bocock killed my dad.

Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!

by TMOX on Jan 7, 2010 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

…was that before or after he impregnated Gigante mid-field?

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, macarena!

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

And BINGO was his name-o.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Penis.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 7, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, I guess that would be the central message of this story

Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu

by AXmrdrir on Jan 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Me my mo mocock...

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Jan 7, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow we are getting pummeled by KLAW today
Chris (Modesto,CA)
Keith, say the Giants have Posey starting behind the plate and do end up getting a left-handed power bat (LaRoche,Damon) in the lineup. Do they have enough to overtake the Dodgers and Rockies? And is bumgardner a better 5th option or another FA veteran?


Klaw (1:53 PM)
I think Bumgarner should probably start in AAA; he’s young, inexperienced, and didn’t look ready stuff-wise at the end of the season. As for the divisional race, no, they’re still too weak on the offensive side and not strong enough in run prevention to overcome it.

J.J. (CT)
Keith is it just me or are people seriously underestimating the Red Sox offense this year? Sure they lost Bay, who was a big help, but a full year out of Victor Martinez and Scutaro should help. And all the knocks the offense was getting last year, they did score over 700 runs and were 3rd in baseball in runs scored. It’s not like they’re have the Giants line up out there.

Klaw (2:09 PM)
They won’t have a lot of power, but they’ll still get on base … that’s funny, I was about to make the Giants joke, and you beat me to it. Next you’ll be turning my face to alabaster.

Giants Fan (SF)
Hey, it’s bad enough we have to watch that lineup. We don’t need you making fun of it, ok?

Klaw (2:13 PM)
You don’t have to watch it much. After all, their at bats are short.

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by jctGamer on Jan 7, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

HOW’D IT GET BURNED

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean

by ringleader3 on Jan 7, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

WORDS HURT

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to choose not to openly weep at work, and instead focus on this:

a left-handed power bat (LaRoche,Damon)

Haha! Damon a power bat??? What a L-U-S-E-R!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Still, I’m at hte point now where I’ll be happy with the cheapest of Laroche, Delgado or Damon.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Jan 7, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I may never be at the point where I’d think the Giants signing Johnny Damon amounts to having signed a power hitter.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s all relative

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by jctGamer on Jan 7, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying he’s a power hitter, just saying his OBP at the top of the order would be much better than any of the in-house options and might mean as much as getting a marginal power guy for the hear of the order.

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Jan 8, 2010 6:33 AM PST up reply actions  

You WANT Johnny Damon.

You’ll settle for Johnny Dyer.
You GET Johnny Carson.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I somehow had the cockamamie idea that Dorothy Parker was dead.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Jan 7, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

bocockamamie

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Jan 7, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

We gotta get Al Davis to respond to that.

“Hey Keith, your at-bats are even shorter! ZING!”

by quincy0191 on Jan 7, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess Klaw missed the 2009 season

The Giants were competitive most of the season with that offense and pitching, and both should be improved going into 2010.

All those people making fun of the Giants offense will be crying in awe of our pitching staff for the 2010 season.

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"It's a process" - Brian Sabean
"Attempting [to match Maddux and Johnson's 4 straight Cy's] just comes back to being a student of the game and never settling. A lot of guys can just sit on things they did. I could have easily sat on things I did last year and bounce off it. I just wanted to become better." - Lincecum

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jan 7, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s really a common misconception that just because they improved position-by-position that they’ll be better. The Giants were lucky to score as many runs as they did last year (scored something like 40 runs more than they should’ve).

And all those people in awe of our pitching? They’ll still be making fun of the Giants offense in the 2010 season.

by speckops on Jan 7, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect the pitching to regress a little.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

clearly because Posey is not ready to receive ML pitching

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by jctGamer on Jan 7, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

They were just outstanding last season. Expecting that type of performance again is a little silly.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

but we have Sandy Koufax now! didn’t you see the comps! :D

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by jctGamer on Jan 7, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Our rotation was also remarkably healthy. I don’t know how often a team has 4 starters start ~30+ games each, but it’s gotta be far from the norm. If one of the four go down this year, we don’t have the depth to absorb the impact.

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought we weren’t supposed to mention this?

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

shhh!

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." -George W. Bush

by Ramah71 on Jan 7, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Expecting that type of performance again is a little silly.

Did we expect it last year?
There you go.
Stop expectorating.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

How many times do you feed a slot machine after hitting the jackpot?

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather not say.

True story…

  In 2001 – after receiving what will probably be the biggest tax return of my life, some $8500 – I let myself go a tad financially.

  • Bought a new stereo.
  • Visited a friend in Florida who’d been asking me to for decades (And getting on the wrong “Fort” bound plane and as a result spending a night in O’hare throwing Frisbees to the moving sidewalk)
  • Gambling.

  I had another friend (Blonde, but I proved to be just as) who swore she knew how to work the slots at Casino Arizona. Oh, you BET we won a little, then lost it all back.

  The learning curve being a little vertical, I went back on my own the next day – and walked out four hours later down $400. The only machine I was successful at getting money out of was the in – house ATM. I hit THAT sucker three times.

  At that point (At THAT point!) I reflected on my father, the onetime expediter for Bechtel, who lost the family fortune on the market in the early Eighties.

Which is why during my year in Vegas I managed to gamble a total of $20.

And no, I did not win then either.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

so

basically we shouldn’t expect the same from the pitching next year then

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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitching? Huh?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs more Bengie.

by speckops on Jan 7, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Tass and Pravda went out of business.

by E Ticket on Jan 7, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re so funny. You like to compare people who don’t agree with you to communists! I remember my middle school days.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you? Some kinda commie?!?

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So you like facists better?

by E Ticket on Jan 7, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you? Some kinda generalissimo?

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes when I’m not pretending to be el jefe or Maximum Leader!!

by E Ticket on Jan 7, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah! Like there’s a difference.

by dregarx on Jan 8, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m really looking forward to the crying in awe.

by Evan on Jan 7, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t a link to your blog be easier?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
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by ringleader3 on Jan 7, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nooooooo

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.

by BrianBokake on Jan 7, 2010 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

It's a sad day

for all the people with Bocockian names, sigs, jokes, etc. It’s tough to lose a Johnson and a Bocock in back to back days but Chien-Ming Wang awaits.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

/raises a fried chicken drumstick in salute

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.

by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No more 'Cock on the Giants?

Damn…where’s the fun in that?

"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans

by otis29 on Jan 7, 2010 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

Minor League stats are useful and the Giants used them to take calculated risks

The Giants did take some risks, yes, but there were signs that suggest that perhaps the hitters might do OK in an emergency case.

At the time Bocock was brought up, he hit relatively well while in Augusta that prior year. His BB/K rate was nearly 1, which only the best hitters can do, and his strikeout rate was only 12%, which again only the best hitters can do.

That earned him a promotion to San Jose, where he didn’t do as well, but his walk rate was still very high (over 10%), which again only the better hitters do. And a study showed that San Jose has a bad background that greatly boosts up the hitters strikeout rates (Bowker attested to that), so it is not that unusual for the boost in strikeout rate, and the mitigating factor was that he was still walking a lot.

So it was a gamble, yes, to bring up Bocock, but there were some positive factors from his minor league performance up to then that he might be able to do well.

And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB. Then it all went to hell.

Similarly for Burriss. He had a stronger case. He actually hit and batted OK in the minors, he had a 41 walks in 515 AB and only 68 K’s overall. Even when he was doing poorly in San Jose, he had 13 walks in 144 AB and only 20 strikeouts. He just had a horrible BABIP that righted itself when he went to Augusta.

His BA and OBP were actually OK in the minors, the main problem was that his ISO (and thus his SLG) was horrible and so he would end up with horrible OPS. But in the leadoff position, the lack of SLG is mitigated because the pitcher and 8th hitter hits ahead of him, plus because of his plus plus speed (was rated among the tops in the minors at that time), he was expected to steal his way to 2B often enough to help mitigate that lack of power and get him into scoring position for the hitters behind him.

Again, it was an emergency situation. The Giants were expecting to be able to use Frandsen at SS for the short term, so did not feel the need to waste either money to sign a player just to play SS for us for just a month then DFA him or a prospect to get a SS for just a month then DFA him.

I think the Giants did the best that they could do in that situation. If they got a body to fill until Omar came back, then what do you do with him? If he is any good, you just paid him a lot of money to play for a month. If he isn’t any good, then why not play our prospects and see what they can do? Same for trading: if he is any good, you just lost a good prospect, and if he’s not any good, then why not play our prospects, who showed some skill in hitting, maybe they can translate it to the majors.

Rather than waste money or a good prospect, playing one or both of our prospects made much more sense.

Now, in the aftermath, Bocock still showed the ability to take a walk, but hasn’t been able to shake the strieout bug nor the ability to hit for any power. That makes him worth a DFA pickup, but not a keeper on a farm system that has Brandon Crawford, whom the Giants called the SS of the future for us in a recent interview, and when we need the spot on the 40 man roster.

True, he probably wouldn’t have needed to be dropped off the 40 man had they not done that. But really, he struck out a lot. A LOT. And hasn’t done much to show otherwise since then. Even if the Giants didn’t bump him up, I think it is pretty clear that the odds of him ever making the majors is pretty low, and it wasn’t like he got worse when he went back to the minors, he just didn’t get better. It just turned out that his San Jose stats was more representative of his abilities and not his Augusta stats.

In Burriss’s case, he still a disciplined hitter, even in Fresno, but his main problem is that despite having at least average arm strength (if not better), he is unable to translate that into average power in ISO or SLG. That reduces his BABIP as well as his ISO and SLG and OPS. And his injury in 2009 just set him back in terms of development. But he’s still young, and now he’ll have 2010 and 2011 to figure it out and then Sanchez’s contract is up.

Of course, by then, Noonan should be breathing down his neck for the 2B starting position. Nick had a great change this year in terms of taking walks and that showed in improvements in his hitting his last couple of months. Hopefully he can show continued improvement for the Richmond Flying Squirrels where the ballpark plays more fairly than San Jose Municipal or Dodd Stadium.

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Godfather of Travis Ishikawa.

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"It's a process" - Brian Sabean
"Attempting [to match Maddux and Johnson's 4 straight Cy's] just comes back to being a student of the game and never settling. A lot of guys can just sit on things they did. I could have easily sat on things I did last year and bounce off it. I just wanted to become better." - Lincecum

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jan 7, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

oh man

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 7, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Now now

It has paragraphs and proper grammar and arguments supported by evidence. Restrain yourself from the obligatory TL;DR :)

by snafu on Jan 7, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it has paragraphs.

by Evan on Jan 7, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, I'm Out!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

*waits*

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well good for you!

People are more accepting of same sex couples now.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, my dog and I are the same sex

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot

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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess in fairness to Sabes, this was kind of a “lightning in a bottle” type move. Omar WAS going to come back, so we just needed a temporary placeholder. Bocock’s glove was supposed to be very very good, so if he could just SSS his way into a decent offensive showing until Omar got back, Sabean may have been hailed as a visionary.

But even still, why not just call up your AAA guy? You had to have a couple guys who looked at least vaguely more ML ready than Bocock looked, right?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

In fairness, if they wanted to keep whomever they called up in the organization, it probably made sense to call up the crappiest playable player and then DFA him right away, hoping that no one would claim him off waivers. Of course, why they waited over a year and a half to DFA him is beyond me.

by speckops on Jan 7, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

At the time Bocock was brought up, he hit relatively well while in Augusta that prior year. His BB/K rate was nearly 1, which only the best hitters can do, and his strikeout rate was only 12%, which again only the best hitters can do.

That earned him a promotion to San Jose, where he didn’t do as well, but his walk rate was still very high (over 10%), which again only the better hitters do.

I’m not sure where you got your numbers from, but Bocock’s BB% was around 9% both in Augusta and in San Jose, which is pretty average, maybe a bit below.

And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB.

People tend to forget what happens in 13 AB’s, mainly because they’re only 13 AB’s.

Again, it was an emergency situation. The Giants were expecting to be able to use Frandsen at SS for the short term, so did not feel the need to waste either money to sign a player just to play SS for us for just a month then DFA him or a prospect to get a SS for just a month then DFA him.

This is just not true. The Giants came into ST without a backup SS. Then they tried Frandsen there. Then they moved him back to 2B, and said he won’t be the SS (he made something like 7 errors in 4 games). Only then he got injured – AFTER they already decided he won’t be the backup SS.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Jan 7, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

San Jose 2007 League BB% Average: 9%

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by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Only the best hitters can post a league average walk rate!

by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB. Then it all went to hell.

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by groug on Jan 7, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It took a week for opposing pitchers to realize he could not hit a major league fastball out of the infield, so they could just leave everything in the strike zone and not worry about it.

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by EliminateMe on Jan 7, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Unclear why it took that long.

by speckops on Jan 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Major league pitchers probably wouldn’t expect to see somebody like that.

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by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s actually a violation of one of the Three Laws of Sample Size to list a split line for 13AB. To wit:

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by TMOX on Jan 8, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

But that kind of emergency situation is just why you stash guys like Ivan Ochoa in AAA. Ochoa hit 296/.337/.430 in 2007 at Fresno. As it turns out, he wasn’t much of an improvement over Bocock…but he would have been some improvement, and he was certainly closer to major league ready.

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by EliminateMe on Jan 7, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by SF Pete on Jan 7, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

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by E Ticket on Jan 7, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't believe I read the whole thing

and feel dumber for it, but..
“true he probably wouldn’t have needed to be dropped off the 40 man had they not done that (annoint b crawford the next great ss)”

have u not been paying attention?
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by locutus on Jan 7, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember Bocock's first week

And I kept waiting for the bottom to fall out.

Also, there was not, and never will be, any legit reason for bringing up Bocock instead of Ochoa (who sucked anyway, but was done developing).

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by baetown415 on Jan 7, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Bocock’s at-bats were pretty sad. You could tell he had no intention of swinging and he was just trying to work a walk.

by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

What's sad:

I remember he was one of the few hitters who would actually take a walk.

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by baetown415 on Jan 8, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB.

This may be the greatest proof ever of why small samples in baseball don’t mean anything.

by xanthan on Jan 8, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

If I remember

This was around the same time that some of you here were talking about trading for Ben Zobrist. That would have been nice.

by guggs on Jan 7, 2010 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

PRETTY!

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by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

mmm!

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by Ramah71 on Jan 7, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing about Bocock

is I can remember watching him the year before in the Futures Game and thought he looked like he could someday be a big league shortstop with decent bat control. So yes, rushing him to the majors so quickly certainly didn’t help him develop in any way, but there was no question that his glove was major league caliber at the time. And who can ever forget that clutch bases loaded walk in the third game of the season that gave the Giants their first run of the year after something like 800 scoreless innings that spring. Ah memories…

by crazedcrustacean on Jan 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

The steaks are getting owned.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

just because bocock is gone, doesn’t mean you are compelled to remove your sig. Keep it!

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by Ramah71 on Jan 7, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The sig was part of the deal. I was going to keep it until he was removed from the roster.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

damn

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by Ramah71 on Jan 7, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The steaks win the baton twirling national championship.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

I live in Texas, how bad is it that I find out about this on a website dedicated to San Francisco baseball?

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by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Texas

there is a rather important game going on tonight. You’re playing in it. Just thought you’d wanna know.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

Just got back from golf… thank goodness there’s some football on, love it, got the fire goin

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, it’s not over? Nah, still rather talk about Brian Bocock.

The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."

by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It's far from over

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll read about it tomorrow.

No I won’t.

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by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I read that as “…love it, got the fire groin”

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?

WHAT AN AWESOME KICK

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

Blasted it right off the dude!!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, but… couldn’t convert…

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprisingly, no ESPN New York.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Ummmm, nobody cares since it’s on the WRONG coast

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You would think that would be the 1st ESPN local. They just added LA a month ago. It was Dallas, Chicago and Boston.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN is in boston, so i think there’s a rivalry there

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t they in Connecticut?

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

apparently that’s near Boston… AND NEW YORK

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The original ESPN serves as ESPN New York.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN boston though

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t that ESPN?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Jan 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN DALLAS!!

i need to learn about the Cowgirls

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

via private tutoring.

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by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: anyone else feel really bad for Colt McCoy?

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by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

He looks like he’s about to cry on the sidelines.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, no heisman, now going to graduate without playing in their BCS championship game… i still think it was funny last year against crabtree

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

He played, for that one series…

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by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

on one hand

on the other, he’s probably due to get some nice money from some team, and then collapse in an avalanche of pussy.

So, it’s a mixed bag.

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by DrStankus on Jan 8, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL Shitty Pass Interference call!

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by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, Shipley’s pretty good

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice toss on the two-point conversion.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I knew this game would get good after I changed the channel.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Jersey Shore was tempting.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Where’s Brian Wilson at? FUCKIN GUIDOS

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL LARS!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Straight as an arrow… wait for it….

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT

SERIOUSLY WHAT GILBERT IS DOING SHOULD NOT BE OVERLOOKED.

This is a TRUE freshman who’s first game experience is in the biggest game he’ll ever play in his career. Against the best defense in the country. And he’s awesome.

Niners should wait 3 years and draft him. He is as legit as it gets

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

NATE DAVIS, case closed

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s eating him?

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by Natto on Jan 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Most Likely to Win a National Title: Garrett Gilbert

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3504655

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s crazy, well, he practically did tonight, if Texas pulls through

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

good call by that guy. He looks like he’s awesome.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he did have 15 pass attempts over the season.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

A long way to go with 3 minutes left.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

BROADCASTER JINX

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

wow… 2 TOs ball on the 3? that’s game

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

unless they hold to a FG and have about 1:30 left

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

The next great 49er QB

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Niner QBs=shit

I see what you did there.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 7, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

MOAR LIKE ALEX SHIT MIRITE

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate Davis!!!! Better than Garrett Gilbert

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

no

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU prove it

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU prove it

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

NATE DAVIS, MAC QB>>>>> EVERYTHING ELSE, SUCK IT…. but hey, i dunno, i’m givin you a hard time, go niners

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the sentence to end all sentences.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Davis might be OK

but Gilbert looks like he’s going to be Peyton Mannning-esque

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking more like Joe Montana as a worst case scenario.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Not as good as Jake Locker though.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I have an unhealthy man crush on Locker

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I know.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

But yeah, I’ll officially put the floor for Gilbert at Joe Montana and the ceiling at Jake Locker.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

Locker/Gilbert = Manning/Brady.

I think it’s a fair comparison at this point.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Who said anything about Y.A. Tittle?

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Gilbert can play baseball too. They can be the new Mantle/Maris.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

ME TOO, the kid from washington is pretty freakin good… love the highlights, he would’ve been the top QB in this years draft i believe

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, after just one game?

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He looked really good

reading the defense, making the throws, moving around. He’s still a true freshman.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well… Let’s look at him with a full season, THEN we’ll see what happens

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hall of fame.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK ME

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Ingram, the next great 49er RB

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ingram is a SO. He’ll be back at Alabama at least one more year.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

This Richardson guy from Alabama is pretty legit though.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, i’m saying sometime in the future

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

when he’s available will be about the time they need to get a new RB

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, Coffee and Ingram

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh please God

Royals could be close to Podsednik signing

Take him away from Sabes.

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by GiantPain on Jan 7, 2010 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna bring up the Royals every time you curse out the Giants.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck those teams

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot three way action!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot three way stove action!

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by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

The Royals have a more recent championship, so STFU.

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by Bhaakon on Jan 7, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So do the A’s, but that never stopped us from ignoring them.

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by shanghaijim on Jan 8, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions  

DO IT!!!!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear Joe Pesci…

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by ResDog on Jan 7, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

JoePos will have a field day.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That long JoePo article about the Royals the other day made me want to do an OOTP franchise starting in 2000 with them.

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by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Question

Is OOTP the best baseball sim out there? I’ve been wanting to get into one to kill time, was just wondering if it’s worth it?

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by GiantPain on Jan 7, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

“Long JoePo article” is redundant.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

This one was over 9000 words! On the 00s Royals!!

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by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there’s a lot of fail to discuss!

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I like it because it’s free!

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by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And it’s fun.

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by jponry on Jan 7, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda like…um…here?

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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Game folks.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 7, 2010 8:54 PM PST reply actions  

The grits should play the potatoes. That would be a good game.

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

well, what i didn’t know is that the guy that intercepted the ball to seal the game against TCU… his bro plays for the Padres, Veneable? Dad played for the giants?

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Venable

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

BAY AREA TIES!?!!?!?!?!

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Can ABC stop romanticizing the fact that Ingram’s dad is awaiting sentencing on bank fraud and money laundering?

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST reply actions  

Bondslegend with the jinx

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Ehhhh, i’m just saying… meant to say it toward Gilbert, but whatevaaa

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s allowed to be awake anyway.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

49ers: Make your plans now!

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:00 PM PST reply actions  

Who?

Arenas? Gilbert? Ingram?

ARENAS

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

NO GUNS!

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

NOT THAT ARENAS

THE NON-GUNNY ONE

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT BUT YOU SAID ARENAS GILBERT

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Arenas had two picks on Gilbert today. They work very well together.

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by Yoyo on Jan 7, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Arenas, dude’s a good returnman

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And a good CB

they need both.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not as good as Joe Haden

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Boise State for co-champions!

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:00 PM PST reply actions  

Nick Saban didn’t like that one.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

Nick Saban isn’t a big fan of fun.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

games not over…. it really is… but it’s not

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He deserves a Gatorade tank to the ear hole for the simple fact that he’s an ass.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s been no evidence to the contrary.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude

it’s pretty obvious he’s an ass. Come on.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

COME ON!!!! I CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE, HE IS AN ASS, WHAT A DICK

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Vehemently denies rumors about coaching Bama when he was with the Dolphins then goes to Bama a few days. Sounds like an ass to me.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

and left LSU in a similar way

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Therefore, Saban is an ass.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

This

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And he sucked in the blind side

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s no Lou Holtz!!! “Blah blah blah Notre Dame will win, blah blah blah, Notre Dames the best”

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

almost thought you said Sabean

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Him too!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much everybody in the South outside of Alabama hates his guts.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And they have every right to.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

JACK ASS, made a football player cry!!!

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

LSU fans want something else in the ear.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

???
whats LSU have to do with Bocock?

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

MUSBURGER SAID HES THE NEXT WELKER! HES ALWAYS RIGHT!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, one thing Shipley is, he’s a possession receiver, not a fast receiver, but can catch the ball anywhere

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Otherwise known as "jason hill"

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Uhh, Shipley is pretty fast

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He out ran arenas

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

JAJAJAJAJA

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a huge threat on fade routes/jump balls…. that’s what i should’ve said

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Arenas.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

NOT GILBERT!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Colt McCoy looked like he was ready to cry.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

Sucks for the guy

doesn’t get to play and probably hurt his NFL chances too

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not a ton

but it sure didn’t help.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

If you can’t feel your arm, that’s not good.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

doesnt help your draft status… isn’t that what you do as a QB? Use your arm?

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a really bizarre interview.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

See what he does during the combine.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, and yea, it was a bizarre interview, he didn’t know what to say, he was pretty depressed

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Really does suck for the guy… and yea it hurts him a little

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOOK UP

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I shift A through that whole thing

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Jan 7, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Too much football crap.

... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time

by shanghaijim on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

What’re those Alabama players smiling for?

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:19 PM PST reply actions  

Because they're enormous douchebags

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nick Saban doesn’t believe in smiling.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s gonna put those kids in a closet.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He’d put Colt McCoy in a closet!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Right next to Tom Cruise!

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody puts Tom Cruise in a corner!

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

They weren't playing for the national championship

at least the media were supposed to act like they werent

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

And the Alabama QB has yet to lose a game since the 8th grade

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Future 49ers third string QB. Replaces Ken Dorsey.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Former ass hole from Miramonte… gotta hate the mats

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Those asses eliminated us my senior year in NCS. They can suck it.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

AGREED, THEY KICKED CAMPOLINDOS ASS, SHIT!!!! well, we kicked their ass the 5 years later

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

When you look at the team dorsey was on in college

it’s amazing. Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey. Wow.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just think of what an all-Miami team would be like.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Back in those days?? SHIT! that’s unbelievable

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention the 80s. Michael Irvin and Testraverde. Then add Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, etc. Wow.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

THE U!

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That documentary was the best thing ever.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The U was the only doc I hated from that 30 for 30 series.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

How could you hate that? Everybody in that film was insanely quoteable. Plus SCHELLY!

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It just seemed like a glorification of Miami and the way they played.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

You didn’t like the way they played?

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

They were the “Look at me” athlete.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely. That’s the one thing I didn’t like about the documentary.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, but they lived up to it. I love everything about Miami and the rules the NCAA made really damaged the fun of college football. The goal is to have fun.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

But they were over the top.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

So?

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s one thing to have fun. It’s another to shove it down the opponents throat.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

They couldn’t help it if the other teams weren’t good enough.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

if you don’t like it, recruit better

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahaha, this is so true, what kind of stupid conversation is this

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don’t like that kind of style.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

If anything that should motivate the team that’s sucking

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think everbody hating Miami is what makes them that much cooler. Kinda like Bonds.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Only time I rooted for Miami was when they face Notre Dame.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

OF COURSE!!!! why does everyone hate on Notre Dame? They got RUDY!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I tell people I love Joe Montana but his biggest negative was he went to Notre Dame.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The “Catholics vs. Convicts” ranks up there with the most racist things ever done in public.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That came from South Bend, didn’t it?

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. T-shirts were made.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s just bad… and my friends got a T-shirt, says “FUCK HAPPY VALLEY” for the penn state ohio state game

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that’s natural.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

True, i’m just very surprised about that Miami Notre Dame shirt…. it’s so true

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.zazzle.ca/catholics_vs_convicts_miami_vs_notre_dame_1988_tshirt-235516971716778241

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

See what happens when you wear that down in Coral Gables

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

whatever

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“I was too busy thinking about how I was gonna juggle all my women around.” That film should win an Oscar for something. I dunno what, but something.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

I think I only like them because they were the best when I started watching college games. Usually I don’t pick teams that way, but I’m sticking with them while they suck, so it must be sorta legit

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not too sure about the next scheduled 30 for 30 show: Reggie Miller vs. the New York Knicks.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Was Gore on that team? I can’t remember.

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe he was… injured though

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First of 2 torn ACLs in spring 02

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, McGahee or Gore for the all-Miami team?

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

McGahee was better in college

simply because Gore was injured. Gore’s been better in the NFL by far. I’ve always been partial to gore, even before he was a niner

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

I guess McGahee was better in the pros than I thought. Gore’s still been better, but it’s not as huge of a gap as one would think

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Gore has been so much more consistent, Mcgahee has has been pretty good this year but not as consistent as Gore

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

McGahee's done nothing but score TDs this year

he’s over the hill now, I just meant his pro career in general has been better than I thought.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea he’s been pretty good, just another great player out of the U

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The REAL miami, mirite??

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

BIG BEN BABY!!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Clinton Portis?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

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I feel Miami needs two spots.

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s amazing how you could stack the box with Gore, and no matter what he’ll come away with a good gain, plus with 2 torn ACLs in his past

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Gore, Willis, Crabtree

all guys I loved watching in college and wanted to be on the niners. w00t, w00t, and W000000000T

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

See, the only guy i watched through college was Crabtree, Willis a little bit, none of Gore since he wasn’t in a whole lot

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Gore was injured a lot. I remember watching him in 04 though, and being pumped that he was finally back healthy. He was awesome.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not McGahee?

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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

IDK

I always liked Gore more. I’m a Miami fan for whatever reason. I liked McGahee, but he was injured too close to the draft for me to want the niners to take him, plus I wanted Gore.

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, McGahee, Bush, Willis, Byron Leftwich and Suh are the guys I’ve enjoyed the most. And Gerhardt, since I’m a Stanford fan.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Worst thing about the National Championship on tonight: there was really no other sports on (just one college basketball and one NBA game).

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

couldn’t ask for a better NBA game… Knicks and Bobcats

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of the NBA. Fans are stupid. Voting for Tracy McGrady for the All Star game?? Some guard in the west won’t go because McGrady is taking the spot.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Any all star game is stupid… it really doesnt prove that a player is good, except the pitchers in MLB… Yao Ming will get in even though he’s hurt

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yao isn’t on the ballot or he would have gotten in. McGrady may be a reason why Ellis doesn’t go, though.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

NBA wouldn’t allow Ellis to get in anyway, fuck them, the NBA all star game is so fucked up, bullshit

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rank the NBA All Star game over the NFL Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl is so meaningless. It’s not even worth watching a second.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 7, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed… I just don’t agree with how people get into the NBA all star game… Ellis is tops in the league in many categories, probably still will get screwed though

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah and it will be worse this year because its right before the super bowl. none of the SB contending teams are gonna show up to that.

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by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

DId ESPN really say Saban was “thrown out of Miami”?

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by djp4cal on Jan 7, 2010 9:56 PM PST reply actions  

Toronto

Shouldn’t you have said CN Tower, not Sears. Toronto has the CN tower

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2010 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

nerd

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

WAAAIT a minute...

…Cartoon Network has a tower???

Cool!

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: Barry Bonds’ son possibly facing 2 years in prison for 5 misdemeanors

by PiKAgiant on Jan 7, 2010 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

I could have cheerfully lived the rest of my life without knowing about this.

http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_14139368

That’s just sad.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, just aint good… very sad

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 12:29 AM PST up reply actions  

What a sad situation.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Boise St

looks to me like #1, although the physical talent part might be tough to evaluate, but they sure played cleaner football. Also, can we do away with the term “True Freshman?” Either you’re a freshman, or a red-shirt freshman; fuck the true part—amirite?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:18 PM PST reply actions  

no

i like true freshman. It sounds better

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by bondslegend on Jan 7, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

false freshman

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

untrue freshman

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

lying, cheating, stab-you-in-the-back freshman

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I sense some sort of freshman related trauma in greatgiantfan’s past.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Or can we just not call sophomores freshmen anymore?

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Jan 7, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If they redshirt

they basically are freshemen though, at least in the athletic sense

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by bondslegend on Jan 8, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

What about the dudes like Daryl Clark out of Penn State

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure anyone ever noticed this, and I hate to bring it up as he leaves the team, but his name sounds a lot like a slang term used for penis. I hope this doesn’t diminsh anyone’s perception of him. We wish the best for the new blue jay bocock.

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:21 PM PST reply actions  

AP Top 5

1. Alabama 2. Texas 3. Florida 4. Boise State 5. Ohio State

Also, Alabama’s first opponent for 2010 is San Jose St.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Jan 8, 2010 12:44 AM PST reply actions  

Pencil in a win for the Spartans

by PiKAgiant on Jan 8, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL BOISE!

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by scout6 on Jan 8, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

His name was Brian Bocock.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Jan 8, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

His name was Brian Bocock

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Jan 8, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

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