Brian Bocock claimed off waivers
I’d like to write it’s the end of an era, but that’s not true. It’s just the end of an easily identifiable trademark of the current era. Brian Bocock, praise be unto his defense, was claimed off waivers by the Toronto Blue Jays. I can almost understand the move from Toronto’s point of view – if you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just show off a strong throwing arm and good range and people will try to catch you because, hey, free defensive-minded shortstop.
It’s debatable whether or not the Giants did Bocock a favor by making him the Opening Day shortstop in 2008, or if they hurt his development. I’d go with the former. He got a pay boost for a few weeks, and he got his face on a baseball card, which is something a lot of professional baseball players aren’t going to be able to say. It remains a longshot for Bocock to ever be even a passable role player in the majors – stranger things have happened, don’t get me wrong – but he’ll always have that feeling of standing out in the field on April of 2008 and playing in front of 40,000 people. I’d do some goofy things to have that same feeling just once in my life.
But Bocock will always stand out to me as a symbol of Brian Sabean’s disregard for minor league statistics. It’s not that Sabean ever thought that Bocock was going to be anything other than a light-hitting defensive shortstop; it’s that Sabean thought Bocock could fake it long enough to buy time until Omar Vizquel returned from an injury. Bocock was a shortstop who was just six months removed from hitting .220 in A-ball and was just over a year removed from playing for Stetson University. But he passed over whatever AA or AAA shortstop should have been in place in the event of an emergency – Ivan Ochoa, in this case – to go with Bocock. Why? Not entirely sure, but I can guess:
Because minor league statistics don’t mean anything, Bocock probably wouldn’t hit any worse than utility shortstops throughout the league, but his defense would make him more valuable than any sort of waiver wire shortstop the team could dredge up.
Is that about right? Because when Bocock struggled, the team brought up Manny Burriss, who had done even worse in the Cal League the year before. That move was like trying to put out a kitchen fire with a speech – at no point did it even pass through the orbit of something that made sense…unless you don’t think that minor league statistics mean anything. Like, anything.
Unfortunately, Burriss hit well for his last 100 at-bats, and then he did well in the spring. But that’s a Sabean-related post for another time: "Why Small Sample Sizes Are More Trustworthy Than Large Sample Sizes." This is a post about Brian Bocock: defensive juggernaut, light hitter, lightning rod for inappropriate puns, and metaphor. After hitting .143 in the majors, Bocock hit .163 in AAA. He did boost it up to .241 in his second go-round in the Cal League as a 24-year-old.
In the winter of 2008, Sabean looked at his roster, saw a 40-year-old shortstop penciled in as a starter, looked through the organizational depth chart, and thought, "If Vizquel gets hurt, unlikely as that may be, we can probably make do by bringing up Brian Bocock. It wouldn’t be an ideal situation, but how bad could he be?" He then resumed not thinking about a legitimate backup plan for a 40-year-old shortstop. This is because minor league statistics are useless.
Also, Bocock.
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/notices it turning
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
No one alerted you.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
WHY IS BOCOCK?
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 7, 2010 1:30 PM PST reply actions
WHY DID I BOCOCK??
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
R.I.P.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It's helicoiled?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
I will miss this puppet username
R.I.P.
"Let’s just put it this way," Bocock said. "I can’t imagine what 100 milligrams does to you."
by Bocock's Viagra on Jan 7, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Can someone out the puppetmaster now?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
SHOULD OF LEFT HIM ON ROSTER
WHAT R U DOIN GIANTS BRAZZZ!!!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
First one of 2010!
FUCK THIS TEAM
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I have one of those!
I’ll miss seeing him at spring training.
Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.
Shouldn’t use “small sample size” and Bocock in same sentence.
"What makes you think you're Jesus Christ?"
"Well, when I pray I seem to be talking to myself"
He absolutely should
that’s the point!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
And now we say goodbye to the finest chant baseball has ever known
Maybe just once more for old time’s sake
“BO….”
Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu
The BlueJays, even though they didn't re sign Scutero
Have now managed to collect three Short Stops this offseason (including re-upping John MacDonald, possible Bocock’s best upside comparison).
Gotta collect them all!
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Second basemen are where it's at!
Freddy Sanchez
Mark DeRosa
Juan Uribe
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Emmanuel Burris
Kevin Frandsen
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
crazy idea
Could Bonds come back…and play second?
by Into the Void on Jan 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Kinda like Sabean’s centerfielder binge of a couple years ago…
I’m glad to see we’ve moved on to secondbaseman now.
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Jan 8, 2010 7:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions

I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 7, 2010 1:51 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
LOL BRUCE BOCHY PLAYER EVALUATION
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 7, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 7, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
No way!
Really. He said that? How? Wh-wh-why? I mean…seriously?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
GIVE THAT MAN A TWO YEAR EXTENSTION!
THEY DID? GOOD! BECAUSE HE’S AWESOME AT EVALUATING PLAYERS!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
To be fair, he doesn’t actually claim he’s a major league hitter.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
/tear

I’ve said this before, but Bocock is a local kid from my area. He played HS ball here and I believe his dad is a local coach. There as an article in the paper after the baseball season ended about how Brian was coming home to help with some baseball academy thing.
by xanthan on Jan 7, 2010 1:54 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
It's a little creepy with the 1985-2010 script
It seems like he died, but you should have put 2006-2010 as that signifies his Giants’ career is dead.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
XANTHAN WUZ WRONG!
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Owen Meany.
Prophet extraordinaire.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
The Mets’ blog had a tombstone for Bengie too, I think it read OBP: .294 WT: 295
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
The Molinaian Falcon ran from 1st to 3rd in less than 12 parsecs minutes.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
nice
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 7, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Or Molinan…
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
LOL the difference in BA and OBP
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Sometimes I wish maybe Bocock would visit this blog and sign up
so he can defend himself.
As it is, adios Bodick and hope you enjoy Canada’s finest bagged milk.
Win the inning.
Bodicker?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
MMMMM WAIVERS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
You have my attention...
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2010/01/07/champions-of-the-world/
/H-T to Pinstripe Alley
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
If the Giants won the WS, and they were to play to champion Japanese donkeys or whatever at AT&T Id go
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Alright so you have two teams playing for global bragging rights. You have to call it the World Series, right?
Thanks for the memories. Now go back to not hitting doubles.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
What the hell is she wearing on her head?
One minute I think it’s a giant squidhead, the next minute it’s a Chinese pagoda.
With a feather!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Easy
He goes for Bocock
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 7, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
HOT
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
We need him back....
Cain 4 Bocock?
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Jan 8, 2010 7:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Which was the strangest roster decision in the history of baseball?
a) Making Bocock the Opening Day shortstop in 2008
or
b) keeping Bocock on the 40-man roster in September 2009 over, say, Steve Holm, thus starting Posey’s clock early, while Posey barely got to play?
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
d) Beginning the season without a backup catcher.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
e) Signing Tucker early to dodge a dreaded draft pick
(also note: Tucker is FLewis’ #2 Zips comp)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Someone here told that Vizcaino played a bit of 1B for us once. I don’t know the circumstances, but I would think that at least gives Bocock a fight.
I was promised lasagna.
Yeah
We re-signed him as a utility INF, but at that point he couldn’t really play much other than 1B.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
2006!!
What a season!!
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
I remember that
It was horrible
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I can only imagine.
Though, if you think about, whenever Bochy benched Garko against a LHP last year, that was the equivalent of starting Renteria at 1B.
I was promised lasagna.
And then Vizcaino went on to win a World Series ring in the same year.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Not Haft’s finest moment.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Has he had any?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
In Haft's defense . . .
On the other hand, why bother. Sorry to have troubled you all.
No, I’m going to do this. Would you take Chris Haft’s job if it was offered you?
You get great seats for every game, for free. AND
You get to meet the players, AND
You get paid to write about the Giants. BUT
You don’t get to tell the truth. Your job is to write puff pieces, spinning every insane FO move as brilliant. That’s your job. Spin. As in . . .
A 20 year old who hit .267 at AA=a 23 year old who hit .220 in A ball. They’re basically the same player. I mean Chris Speier!?!?!? Are you fucking kidding me!?!?!?!?!
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jan 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure he has to write puff pieces that spin every move as a great one, I just think he’s an idiot (Mike Jacobs anyone?). Baggarly and Schulman don’t laud every move the FO makes and they keep their jobs.
but they're not working for MLB
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
There were some Mailbags where he knocked some people down a peg.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Seriously? Who? When? You can’t tell me he criticized Sabes? Or Boch?
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Jan 7, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
FIRST DENKER AND NOW THIS!!!!!111:@:jk@jkl:!!!1
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 7, 2010 2:28 PM PST reply actions
Also
Coolest Moment: “I was with the Blue Jays in ‘02 and I came in to pitch at Dodger Stadium for the first time (June 20, 2002). I grew up a Dodger fan. I went to a few games as a kid. I saw Dusty Baker play live as a kid. I got his autograph, and then he was my manager, which was pretty cool. Stuff like that I’ll never forget. I don’t even remember who I faced that day.”
Retire in peace, Scott Eyre.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
OT: LOL RAIDERS BRASS
A day after the Raiders rebuffed an offer of help from their former quarterback, Gannon said on Sirius NFL Radio on Thursday that “I won’t make that call again.”
Gannon said on his show Wednesday that he had called team owner Al Davis to offer any help for the organization and struggling young quarterback JaMarcus Russell. The Raiders responded that Gannon was the one who needed help.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
I hope the Raiders never change
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
me neither
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Darn young'ns
They have changed. Just not for the better.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
right
change doesn’t necessarily mean improvement
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 7, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
RAIDERFREUDE!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 7, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
There are those of us...maybe three...
…who will admit to being Raider fans back in the day.
(“What day, Vic?”)
Funny you should ask – I was just going to tell you.
Well, John Madden wasn’t always a broadcaster, you know…
And Before Snake Plisskin there was this Stabler guy.
And a Guy guy.
And a Ghost.
And an Assassin.
And quite possibly (outside of Jack Tatum) the ugliest man in the NFL, who later had a pat of butter smack him in the head in Car Wash.
And two brothers who shared the same non – number.
And some dude with veteran scrappy grittitude who not only threw touchdowns but kicked field goals as well.
And the Raiders – I know this is hard for you Crackalakin’ types to comprehend – were fucking awesome.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
I remember those days.
When I was about 14 I even had a John Madden t-shirt that said “100 In 10” on it. I had to explain to nearly everyone what it meant.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
what does it mean?
btw i did my due diligence and kicked googles tires but nothing came up. dont twss that.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
100 wins in 10 years
I found it on google! SUCK ON THAT
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Correct
Also note that 9 of those 10 seasons were before the expansion of the season from 14 to 16 games, so it was a more notable achievement then.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
This was before they became the LA Traitors.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
He always gets foiled by Link, so maybe he does.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The Raiders responded that Gannon was the one who needed help.
This is gold, I LOL’d hard.
If only lacking common sense and making horrible top draft picks win Super Bowls…
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
He's got that Benjamin Button disease
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
regression
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Regression to the petty.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Last Dance With MaryJane…Timmy
/Ducks
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Jan 7, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Gannon has taken some pot shots at the team all season. Not that they weren’t true…
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
wow
they are seriously screwed up. Like, really bad.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Warning: Gratuitous butt kissing
I am once again reminded what an excellent writer you are, Grant. This was a fun read.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jan 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Giant Fan in Singapore and Grant’s butt sitting in a tree…
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Singing Butt Pee? Never mind. I don’t want to know.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
P-I-S-S-I-N-G
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Providing balance...
You suck, Grant
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
"Deep"
(Don’t think we didn’t miss the Jack Handley ref either)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Favorite Jack Handy quote:
One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my little nephew to DisneyLand, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh, no," I said, "DisneyLand burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real DisneyLand, but it was getting pretty late.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
by jhiat00 on Jan 7, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw.
by kdl on Jan 7, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
HE WAS MY ADOPTED GIANT!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!
I was hopong the Braves would claim him
Altanta fans could do the “Bocock Chop”… where they waive their ax/hand down toward their collective crotches.
We’re all gonna miss him, but I think we’ll all have a little Bocock deep down inside of us.
P.S.: I was wrong about Bocock; I predicted his offense would come in spurts.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 7, 2010 2:48 PM PST reply actions 9 recs
Very probably when working on B(lue) Jays.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Blewcock
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
New team nickname:
Toronto Blue Balls
by crazedcrustacean on Jan 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
rec'd
Goofus getting the most out of his last Bocock comment.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I’m so gonna miss him
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Down to the last drop.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
bocock, nothing comes closer to home
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
I was hoping the Mariners would claim him!
I even made this just before he went to the Jays

lol
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 9, 2010 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
LOLOL
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 9, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, I just found this....you think it might be his parent's?
Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu
Very Deep
Those are very deep thoughts about Bocock, Grant. I never liked Bocock; I think it was because one time, I went to a SJ Giants game, and Brian Bocock killed my dad.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
Me my mo mocock...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Wow we are getting pummeled by KLAW today
Chris (Modesto,CA)
Keith, say the Giants have Posey starting behind the plate and do end up getting a left-handed power bat (LaRoche,Damon) in the lineup. Do they have enough to overtake the Dodgers and Rockies? And is bumgardner a better 5th option or another FA veteran?
Klaw (1:53 PM)
I think Bumgarner should probably start in AAA; he’s young, inexperienced, and didn’t look ready stuff-wise at the end of the season. As for the divisional race, no, they’re still too weak on the offensive side and not strong enough in run prevention to overcome it.
J.J. (CT)
Keith is it just me or are people seriously underestimating the Red Sox offense this year? Sure they lost Bay, who was a big help, but a full year out of Victor Martinez and Scutaro should help. And all the knocks the offense was getting last year, they did score over 700 runs and were 3rd in baseball in runs scored. It’s not like they’re have the Giants line up out there.Klaw (2:09 PM)
They won’t have a lot of power, but they’ll still get on base … that’s funny, I was about to make the Giants joke, and you beat me to it. Next you’ll be turning my face to alabaster.
Giants Fan (SF)
Hey, it’s bad enough we have to watch that lineup. We don’t need you making fun of it, ok?
Klaw (2:13 PM)
You don’t have to watch it much. After all, their at bats are short.
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HOW’D IT GET BURNED
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I’m going to choose not to openly weep at work, and instead focus on this:
a left-handed power bat (LaRoche,Damon)
Haha! Damon a power bat??? What a L-U-S-E-R!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Still, I’m at hte point now where I’ll be happy with the cheapest of Laroche, Delgado or Damon.
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I may never be at the point where I’d think the Giants signing Johnny Damon amounts to having signed a power hitter.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Not saying he’s a power hitter, just saying his OBP at the top of the order would be much better than any of the in-house options and might mean as much as getting a marginal power guy for the hear of the order.
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You WANT Johnny Damon.
You’ll settle for Johnny Dyer.
You GET Johnny Carson.
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly, I somehow had the cockamamie idea that Dorothy Parker was dead.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I guess Klaw missed the 2009 season
The Giants were competitive most of the season with that offense and pitching, and both should be improved going into 2010.
All those people making fun of the Giants offense will be crying in awe of our pitching staff for the 2010 season.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jan 7, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
It’s really a common misconception that just because they improved position-by-position that they’ll be better. The Giants were lucky to score as many runs as they did last year (scored something like 40 runs more than they should’ve).
And all those people in awe of our pitching? They’ll still be making fun of the Giants offense in the 2010 season.
I expect the pitching to regress a little.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
clearly because Posey is not ready to receive ML pitching
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Nah
They were just outstanding last season. Expecting that type of performance again is a little silly.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Our rotation was also remarkably healthy. I don’t know how often a team has 4 starters start ~30+ games each, but it’s gotta be far from the norm. If one of the four go down this year, we don’t have the depth to absorb the impact.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
I thought we weren’t supposed to mention this?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Expecting that type of performance again is a little silly.
Did we expect it last year?
There you go.
Stop expectorating.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
How many times do you feed a slot machine after hitting the jackpot?
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather not say.
True story…
In 2001 – after receiving what will probably be the biggest tax return of my life, some $8500 – I let myself go a tad financially.
- Bought a new stereo.
- Visited a friend in Florida who’d been asking me to for decades (And getting on the wrong “Fort” bound plane and as a result spending a night in O’hare throwing Frisbees to the moving sidewalk)
- Gambling.
I had another friend (Blonde, but I proved to be just as) who swore she knew how to work the slots at Casino Arizona. Oh, you BET we won a little, then lost it all back.
The learning curve being a little vertical, I went back on my own the next day – and walked out four hours later down $400. The only machine I was successful at getting money out of was the in – house ATM. I hit THAT sucker three times.
At that point (At THAT point!) I reflected on my father, the onetime expediter for Bechtel, who lost the family fortune on the market in the early Eighties.
Which is why during my year in Vegas I managed to gamble a total of $20.
And no, I did not win then either.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
so
basically we shouldn’t expect the same from the pitching next year then
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Pitching? Huh?
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Tass and Pravda went out of business.
by E Ticket on Jan 7, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
You’re so funny. You like to compare people who don’t agree with you to communists! I remember my middle school days.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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What are you? Some kinda generalissimo?
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Sometimes when I’m not pretending to be el jefe or Maximum Leader!!
by E Ticket on Jan 7, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn’t a link to your blog be easier?
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Nooooooo
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
It's a sad day
for all the people with Bocockian names, sigs, jokes, etc. It’s tough to lose a Johnson and a Bocock in back to back days but Chien-Ming Wang awaits.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
No more 'Cock on the Giants?
Damn…where’s the fun in that?
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Minor League stats are useful and the Giants used them to take calculated risks
The Giants did take some risks, yes, but there were signs that suggest that perhaps the hitters might do OK in an emergency case.
At the time Bocock was brought up, he hit relatively well while in Augusta that prior year. His BB/K rate was nearly 1, which only the best hitters can do, and his strikeout rate was only 12%, which again only the best hitters can do.
That earned him a promotion to San Jose, where he didn’t do as well, but his walk rate was still very high (over 10%), which again only the better hitters do. And a study showed that San Jose has a bad background that greatly boosts up the hitters strikeout rates (Bowker attested to that), so it is not that unusual for the boost in strikeout rate, and the mitigating factor was that he was still walking a lot.
So it was a gamble, yes, to bring up Bocock, but there were some positive factors from his minor league performance up to then that he might be able to do well.
And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB. Then it all went to hell.
Similarly for Burriss. He had a stronger case. He actually hit and batted OK in the minors, he had a 41 walks in 515 AB and only 68 K’s overall. Even when he was doing poorly in San Jose, he had 13 walks in 144 AB and only 20 strikeouts. He just had a horrible BABIP that righted itself when he went to Augusta.
His BA and OBP were actually OK in the minors, the main problem was that his ISO (and thus his SLG) was horrible and so he would end up with horrible OPS. But in the leadoff position, the lack of SLG is mitigated because the pitcher and 8th hitter hits ahead of him, plus because of his plus plus speed (was rated among the tops in the minors at that time), he was expected to steal his way to 2B often enough to help mitigate that lack of power and get him into scoring position for the hitters behind him.
Again, it was an emergency situation. The Giants were expecting to be able to use Frandsen at SS for the short term, so did not feel the need to waste either money to sign a player just to play SS for us for just a month then DFA him or a prospect to get a SS for just a month then DFA him.
I think the Giants did the best that they could do in that situation. If they got a body to fill until Omar came back, then what do you do with him? If he is any good, you just paid him a lot of money to play for a month. If he isn’t any good, then why not play our prospects and see what they can do? Same for trading: if he is any good, you just lost a good prospect, and if he’s not any good, then why not play our prospects, who showed some skill in hitting, maybe they can translate it to the majors.
Rather than waste money or a good prospect, playing one or both of our prospects made much more sense.
Now, in the aftermath, Bocock still showed the ability to take a walk, but hasn’t been able to shake the strieout bug nor the ability to hit for any power. That makes him worth a DFA pickup, but not a keeper on a farm system that has Brandon Crawford, whom the Giants called the SS of the future for us in a recent interview, and when we need the spot on the 40 man roster.
True, he probably wouldn’t have needed to be dropped off the 40 man had they not done that. But really, he struck out a lot. A LOT. And hasn’t done much to show otherwise since then. Even if the Giants didn’t bump him up, I think it is pretty clear that the odds of him ever making the majors is pretty low, and it wasn’t like he got worse when he went back to the minors, he just didn’t get better. It just turned out that his San Jose stats was more representative of his abilities and not his Augusta stats.
In Burriss’s case, he still a disciplined hitter, even in Fresno, but his main problem is that despite having at least average arm strength (if not better), he is unable to translate that into average power in ISO or SLG. That reduces his BABIP as well as his ISO and SLG and OPS. And his injury in 2009 just set him back in terms of development. But he’s still young, and now he’ll have 2010 and 2011 to figure it out and then Sanchez’s contract is up.
Of course, by then, Noonan should be breathing down his neck for the 2B starting position. Nick had a great change this year in terms of taking walks and that showed in improvements in his hitting his last couple of months. Hopefully he can show continued improvement for the Richmond Flying Squirrels where the ballpark plays more fairly than San Jose Municipal or Dodd Stadium.
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oh man
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 7, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
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by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
*waits*
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Well good for you!
People are more accepting of same sex couples now.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
yes, my dog and I are the same sex
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by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Hot
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I guess in fairness to Sabes, this was kind of a “lightning in a bottle” type move. Omar WAS going to come back, so we just needed a temporary placeholder. Bocock’s glove was supposed to be very very good, so if he could just SSS his way into a decent offensive showing until Omar got back, Sabean may have been hailed as a visionary.
But even still, why not just call up your AAA guy? You had to have a couple guys who looked at least vaguely more ML ready than Bocock looked, right?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
At the time Bocock was brought up, he hit relatively well while in Augusta that prior year. His BB/K rate was nearly 1, which only the best hitters can do, and his strikeout rate was only 12%, which again only the best hitters can do.
That earned him a promotion to San Jose, where he didn’t do as well, but his walk rate was still very high (over 10%), which again only the better hitters do.
I’m not sure where you got your numbers from, but Bocock’s BB% was around 9% both in Augusta and in San Jose, which is pretty average, maybe a bit below.
And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB.
People tend to forget what happens in 13 AB’s, mainly because they’re only 13 AB’s.
Again, it was an emergency situation. The Giants were expecting to be able to use Frandsen at SS for the short term, so did not feel the need to waste either money to sign a player just to play SS for us for just a month then DFA him or a prospect to get a SS for just a month then DFA him.
This is just not true. The Giants came into ST without a backup SS. Then they tried Frandsen there. Then they moved him back to 2B, and said he won’t be the SS (he made something like 7 errors in 4 games). Only then he got injured – AFTER they already decided he won’t be the backup SS.
I was promised lasagna.
San Jose 2007 League BB% Average: 9%
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
And it worked for about a week. People forget but he was batting .308/.526/.308/.834 after 6 games, with 4 hits and 6 walks, but also 5 strikeouts, in 13 AB. Then it all went to hell.
MICROSPLITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It took a week for opposing pitchers to realize he could not hit a major league fastball out of the infield, so they could just leave everything in the strike zone and not worry about it.
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But that kind of emergency situation is just why you stash guys like Ivan Ochoa in AAA. Ochoa hit 296/.337/.430 in 2007 at Fresno. As it turns out, he wasn’t much of an improvement over Bocock…but he would have been some improvement, and he was certainly closer to major league ready.
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I can't believe I read the whole thing
and feel dumber for it, but..
“true he probably wouldn’t have needed to be dropped off the 40 man had they not done that (annoint b crawford the next great ss)”
have u not been paying attention?
upside < cawk jokes
I remember Bocock's first week
And I kept waiting for the bottom to fall out.
Also, there was not, and never will be, any legit reason for bringing up Bocock instead of Ochoa (who sucked anyway, but was done developing).
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Bocock’s at-bats were pretty sad. You could tell he had no intention of swinging and he was just trying to work a walk.
What's sad:
I remember he was one of the few hitters who would actually take a walk.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
If I remember
This was around the same time that some of you here were talking about trading for Ben Zobrist. That would have been nice.
The thing about Bocock
is I can remember watching him the year before in the Futures Game and thought he looked like he could someday be a big league shortstop with decent bat control. So yes, rushing him to the majors so quickly certainly didn’t help him develop in any way, but there was no question that his glove was major league caliber at the time. And who can ever forget that clutch bases loaded walk in the third game of the season that gave the Giants their first run of the year after something like 800 scoreless innings that spring. Ah memories…
by crazedcrustacean on Jan 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions
just because bocock is gone, doesn’t mean you are compelled to remove your sig. Keep it!
"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures." -George W. Bush
The sig was part of the deal. I was going to keep it until he was removed from the roster.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
LOLS THE WANDERER!
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
The steaks win the baton twirling national championship.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions
I live in Texas, how bad is it that I find out about this on a website dedicated to San Francisco baseball?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Texas
there is a rather important game going on tonight. You’re playing in it. Just thought you’d wanna know.
AND TOUCHDOWN! YES. I SHOULD BE A FUCKING COACH.
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Wait, it’s not over? Nah, still rather talk about Brian Bocock.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
It's far from over
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I’ll read about it tomorrow.
No I won’t.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I read that as “…love it, got the fire groin”
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?
WHAT AN AWESOME KICK
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ESPN boston though
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Isn’t that ESPN?
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by say hey nation on Jan 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
OT: anyone else feel really bad for Colt McCoy?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Yea, no heisman, now going to graduate without playing in their BCS championship game… i still think it was funny last year against crabtree
on one hand
on the other, he’s probably due to get some nice money from some team, and then collapse in an avalanche of pussy.
So, it’s a mixed bag.
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LOL Shitty Pass Interference call!
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Man, I knew this game would get good after I changed the channel.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Jersey Shore was tempting.
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HOLY SHIT
SERIOUSLY WHAT GILBERT IS DOING SHOULD NOT BE OVERLOOKED.
This is a TRUE freshman who’s first game experience is in the biggest game he’ll ever play in his career. Against the best defense in the country. And he’s awesome.
Niners should wait 3 years and draft him. He is as legit as it gets
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What’s eating him?
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Wow
good call by that guy. He looks like he’s awesome.
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Shit
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Niner QBs=shit
I see what you did there.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 7, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
MOAR LIKE ALEX SHIT MIRITE
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no
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YOU prove it
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YOU prove it
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NATE DAVIS, MAC QB>>>>> EVERYTHING ELSE, SUCK IT…. but hey, i dunno, i’m givin you a hard time, go niners
Davis might be OK
but Gilbert looks like he’s going to be Peyton Mannning-esque
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I’m thinking more like Joe Montana as a worst case scenario.
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Not as good as Jake Locker though.
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I have an unhealthy man crush on Locker
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I know.
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But yeah, I’ll officially put the floor for Gilbert at Joe Montana and the ceiling at Jake Locker.
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Well
Locker/Gilbert = Manning/Brady.
I think it’s a fair comparison at this point.
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Who said anything about Y.A. Tittle?
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He looked really good
reading the defense, making the throws, moving around. He’s still a true freshman.
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FUCK ME
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Yeah
when he’s available will be about the time they need to get a new RB
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Oh please God
Royals could be close to Podsednik signing
Take him away from Sabes.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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I’m gonna bring up the Royals every time you curse out the Giants.
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Fuck those teams
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Hot three way action!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 7, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
That long JoePo article about the Royals the other day made me want to do an OOTP franchise starting in 2000 with them.
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Is OOTP the best baseball sim out there? I’ve been wanting to get into one to kill time, was just wondering if it’s worth it?
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“Long JoePo article” is redundant.
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This one was over 9000 words! On the 00s Royals!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Well, I like it because it’s free!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
And it’s fun.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Kinda like…um…here?
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
The grits should play the potatoes. That would be a good game.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
well, what i didn’t know is that the guy that intercepted the ball to seal the game against TCU… his bro plays for the Padres, Veneable? Dad played for the giants?
Venable
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
Can ABC stop romanticizing the fact that Ingram’s dad is awaiting sentencing on bank fraud and money laundering?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
49ers: Make your plans now!
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Who?
Arenas? Gilbert? Ingram?
ARENAS
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NO GUNS!
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NOT THAT ARENAS
THE NON-GUNNY ONE
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BUT BUT YOU SAID ARENAS GILBERT
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And a good CB
they need both.
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He'd be a good outfielder
Dudes gotta gun.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Boise State for co-champions!
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Dude
it’s pretty obvious he’s an ass. Come on.
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Vehemently denies rumors about coaching Bama when he was with the Dolphins then goes to Bama a few days. Sounds like an ass to me.
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Yeah
and left LSU in a similar way
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This
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And he sucked in the blind side
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???
whats LSU have to do with Bocock?
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
Well, one thing Shipley is, he’s a possession receiver, not a fast receiver, but can catch the ball anywhere
Otherwise known as "jason hill"
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Uhh, Shipley is pretty fast
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He out ran arenas
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How hard is that?
THEY ARE GIANT CEMENT BUILDINGS!!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 7, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
JAJAJAJAJA
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No
Arenas.
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Sucks for the guy
doesn’t get to play and probably hurt his NFL chances too
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Maybe not a ton
but it sure didn’t help.
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If you can’t feel your arm, that’s not good.
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THE ROYALS ARE CLOSE TO ACQUIRING SCOTT PODSEDNIK
http://www.royalsreview.com/2010/1/7/1240018/royals-close-to-signing-a-speedy
THANK GOD FOR DAYTON MOORE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
LOOK UP
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What’re those Alabama players smiling for?
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Because they're enormous douchebags
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He’s gonna put those kids in a closet.
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They weren't playing for the national championship
at least the media were supposed to act like they werent
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Future 49ers third string QB. Replaces Ken Dorsey.
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When you look at the team dorsey was on in college
it’s amazing. Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey. Wow.
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Just think of what an all-Miami team would be like.
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Not to mention the 80s. Michael Irvin and Testraverde. Then add Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, etc. Wow.
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That documentary was the best thing ever.
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How could you hate that? Everybody in that film was insanely quoteable. Plus SCHELLY!
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You didn’t like the way they played?
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Ah, but they lived up to it. I love everything about Miami and the rules the NCAA made really damaged the fun of college football. The goal is to have fun.
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So?
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They couldn’t help it if the other teams weren’t good enough.
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Seriously
if you don’t like it, recruit better
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I think everbody hating Miami is what makes them that much cooler. Kinda like Bonds.
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The “Catholics vs. Convicts” ranks up there with the most racist things ever done in public.
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Yup. T-shirts were made.
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That’s just bad… and my friends got a T-shirt, says “FUCK HAPPY VALLEY” for the penn state ohio state game
Well that’s natural.
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http://www.zazzle.ca/catholics_vs_convicts_miami_vs_notre_dame_1988_tshirt-235516971716778241
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whatever
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“I was too busy thinking about how I was gonna juggle all my women around.” That film should win an Oscar for something. I dunno what, but something.
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+1
I think I only like them because they were the best when I started watching college games. Usually I don’t pick teams that way, but I’m sticking with them while they suck, so it must be sorta legit
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First of 2 torn ACLs in spring 02
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Hmm, McGahee or Gore for the all-Miami team?
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McGahee was better in college
simply because Gore was injured. Gore’s been better in the NFL by far. I’ve always been partial to gore, even before he was a niner
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Actually
I guess McGahee was better in the pros than I thought. Gore’s still been better, but it’s not as huge of a gap as one would think
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Gore has been so much more consistent, Mcgahee has has been pretty good this year but not as consistent as Gore
McGahee's done nothing but score TDs this year
he’s over the hill now, I just meant his pro career in general has been better than I thought.
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The REAL miami, mirite??
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Clinton Portis?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
it’s amazing how you could stack the box with Gore, and no matter what he’ll come away with a good gain, plus with 2 torn ACLs in his past
Gore, Willis, Crabtree
all guys I loved watching in college and wanted to be on the niners. w00t, w00t, and W000000000T
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See, the only guy i watched through college was Crabtree, Willis a little bit, none of Gore since he wasn’t in a whole lot
Yeah
Gore was injured a lot. I remember watching him in 04 though, and being pumped that he was finally back healthy. He was awesome.
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Why not McGahee?
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IDK
I always liked Gore more. I’m a Miami fan for whatever reason. I liked McGahee, but he was injured too close to the draft for me to want the niners to take him, plus I wanted Gore.
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Worst thing about the National Championship on tonight: there was really no other sports on (just one college basketball and one NBA game).
"meh"
Speaking of the NBA. Fans are stupid. Voting for Tracy McGrady for the All Star game?? Some guard in the west won’t go because McGrady is taking the spot.
"meh"
Any all star game is stupid… it really doesnt prove that a player is good, except the pitchers in MLB… Yao Ming will get in even though he’s hurt
Yao isn’t on the ballot or he would have gotten in. McGrady may be a reason why Ellis doesn’t go, though.
"meh"
NBA wouldn’t allow Ellis to get in anyway, fuck them, the NBA all star game is so fucked up, bullshit
I’d rank the NBA All Star game over the NFL Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl is so meaningless. It’s not even worth watching a second.
"meh"
Yeah and it will be worse this year because its right before the super bowl. none of the SB contending teams are gonna show up to that.
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Toronto
Shouldn’t you have said CN Tower, not Sears. Toronto has the CN tower
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2010 10:13 PM PST reply actions
nerd
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WAAAIT a minute...
…Cartoon Network has a tower???
Cool!
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
I could have cheerfully lived the rest of my life without knowing about this.
http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_14139368
That’s just sad.
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 8, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Boise St
looks to me like #1, although the physical talent part might be tough to evaluate, but they sure played cleaner football. Also, can we do away with the term “True Freshman?” Either you’re a freshman, or a red-shirt freshman; fuck the true part—amirite?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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no
i like true freshman. It sounds better
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false freshman
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
untrue freshman
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
lying, cheating, stab-you-in-the-back freshman
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Jan 7, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
I sense some sort of freshman related trauma in greatgiantfan’s past.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 8, 2010 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
Or can we just not call sophomores freshmen anymore?
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If they redshirt
they basically are freshemen though, at least in the athletic sense
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I’m not sure anyone ever noticed this, and I hate to bring it up as he leaves the team, but his name sounds a lot like a slang term used for penis. I hope this doesn’t diminsh anyone’s perception of him. We wish the best for the new blue jay bocock.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 7, 2010 11:21 PM PST reply actions
AP Top 5
1. Alabama 2. Texas 3. Florida 4. Boise State 5. Ohio State
Also, Alabama’s first opponent for 2010 is San Jose St.
"meh"
His name was Brian Bocock.
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