Jesus Guzman designated for assignment...
...to make room for Bengie Molina. This isn't likely to be anything to freak out over -- Guzman's glove and patience were probably going to limit him to the bench -- but I suggest we all freak out anyways.
And just because I want the Giants succeed doesn't mean that it wouldn't be funny to watch Ryan Garko and Guzman hit a combined 45 home runs in the near future.
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This gets a front page post, but Mr. F’s surgery doesn’t?!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 2:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I broke the news about Sanchez’s surgery four weeks ago. Where were you?
by Grant on Jan 22, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN! I missed it!
/checks old posts
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
found it!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/23/1218054/holiday-nuthin-thread#27831863
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But seriously
When did you mention it Grant? I’ve been sitting here at work all day, checking in with McC every ten minutes waiting for you to go off on the front office… my day isn’t complete until u do that.
And it’s Friday. I want to go home in peace, please.
by DimaK on Jan 22, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There were some fanshots, but I didn’t see him say anything in them.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sick daughter. No post. Blame the germs.
by Grant on Jan 22, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
damn you germs!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 22, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus can’t catch.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 22, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Does he want the Giants “to” succeed or “not to” succeed? I need to know how to cheer this season.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 22, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think this will be a big loss, but I would have rather dumped Burriss tbh
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by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Same. Jesus seemed to have some offensive upside. Plus, how do you just dump Jesus? Seems like a sure path to hell.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 22, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
God just cursed the Giants :(
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by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
Which is worse, losing a fairly low-value player named Jesus (Giants), or losing a fairly high-value player to Jesus (A’s)?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Jan 22, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
that was awesome!
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 23, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To make things more complicated
We actually gained Jesus from the A’s in the first place too
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 23, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So we found Jesus in Oakland? No wonder Desme didn’t.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
According to a friend of mine in New York (84yrs old, love ya Gino!), God cursed the Giants when they left NYC. His assertion is that they won’t win a WSC until they move back.
Your bench player is our #5 hitter!!!
by Mr. Angry on Jan 22, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His assertion is that they won’t win a WSC until they move back.
You just stop that crazy talk right now.
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by nvsfg on Jan 22, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard not to believe
McCovey hits it 2 feet higher.
Earthquake in ’89.
Asteroid in ’02.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes. A co-worker who watched ’62 live said McCovey obliterated that baseball. Nice to bookend my day with Giants world series failures (also wearing a Giants shirt to work for some reason).
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just watched it on the MLB Network. He smoked it.
by Grant on Jan 22, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
end of the world 2012?
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 23, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the current organization does enough to recognize the NY Giants to appease any ‘spirits’.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 22, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are ready to give up on Burriss? I find that interesting. I know he was terrible last year, but he is raw, and I think that there is a chance that he could at least be a useful utility IF in the future.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he’s ever going to hit, and his defense isn’t really that good either.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
#2 in Fanshots
by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
come on...he'll get A hit
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 23, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I never saw Burriss play much, so I can’t say one way or the other, and I trust your opinion, but I hope you aren’t using the advanced metrics to determine that – SSS. Everything I have read leads me to believe he is a good athelete, which should at the least mean good range.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He looked like he should have been good on defense but the Giants had to move him to 2nd because he couldn’t handle short in the Arizona league. At least that’s how I remember it.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His bat was awful last year
I’d rather see Bengie run without a shirt than watch him “bat” against those MLB pitchers last season; my eyes won’t forgive me either way. He had a great ST too but apparently didn’t carry over one bit.
However, I seriously doubt they will DFA him anytime soon given that they still don’t have a SS ready to play in SF once Rent’s gone.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 22, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They seem to think Crawford will be. For some reason.
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by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see Bengie run without a shirt
Was that really necessary?
by taliesin on Jan 22, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Smith agrees with you
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 22, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bengLOLs
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Truffle Shuffle!!!!!!
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 23, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah yes….childhood obesity
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
by AXmrdrir on Jan 25, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he’s ever going to hit, and his defense isn’t really that good either.
Precisely. I’d rather take a chance on Jesus’ bat.
Don't believe everything you think.
by wcovington on Jan 22, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he needs to be able to play SS to have any chance at all.
by taliesin on Jan 22, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll keep Burriss a little longer and pray that he can turn into Cesar Izturis — but his prospects are pretty dim.
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by xanthan on Jan 22, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Still standing: FLew and Frandsen
Don’t worry Jesus, Toronto will be calling your agent soon.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 22, 2010 3:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
by kennv on Jan 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
normally I would get all worked up. but after THIS week…
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by wjackalope on Jan 22, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
why is fresno fred still on the roster......
by sadison bummedgarner on Jan 22, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't even start with that sh*t...
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by nvsfg on Jan 22, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OBA!!!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My friend’s name is Oba!
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
by Ramah71 on Jan 22, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL K-FRED!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 22, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Better question
why do people seriously ask this question?
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a shame
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 22, 2010 3:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
From Baggs
Molina, on his own, texted Buster Posey to let him know he wasn’t trying to take his job and to offer support. Posey called back in short order and the two catchers had a long conversation. Sabean wouldn’t rule out Posey beginning the season as the backup catcher, but it’s obvious that everyone in the organization wants him to catch more games in the minor leagues. Plus, with Steve Decker now the manager at Triple-A Fresno, Posey should benefit from playing there every day.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jan 22, 2010 3:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You should follow the Golden State Warriors. Really hilarious, but only if you enjoy Harmony Korine-level dark comedy
Blehhh!
by Giant Homer on Jan 22, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
quit tryin 2 lite a fire undr me lol
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by Natto on Jan 22, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Sabean wouldn’t rule out Posey beginning the season as the backup catcher,
Ugh. This should be a no-brainer. The ONLY reasons to not start Posey are to get him more minor league experience and to delay his service clock.
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by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course if he gets some pinch hits in big league at-bats then he may finally prove he can hit big league pitching. Although BORK would probably then decide that Posey is too valuable as a pinch hitter to start.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 22, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly believe that part of Bork’s “Bengie love” has to do with his own aborted shot at starting for an MLB team. When Kennedy left after 1986, Bork was scheduled to be the opening day starter for 1987. Then Bentio Santiago showed he could play some ball. The rest is history. Bochy is not going to let Posey take away Molina’s job.
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by nvsfg on Jan 22, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This makes about as much sense as considering one of the best hitters on the team last year and that Posey is unlikely to match his production over a season. I approve.
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by jasomack on Jan 22, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
according to the noted baseball thinker giantsrainman, catching one game a week in MLB is a better way for him to develop than catching every day in AAA.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jan 22, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He Isn't Going To Gain The Missing MLB Experience Handling A Pitching Staff In Fresno.
That said, avoiding another Timmy like Super 2 problem is the reason to send him down until July.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this, it’s not experience behind the plate he needs, he’s been playing catcher plenty long, and although I’m no big league ballplayer I think it would be a safe bet that between AAA catching duties and major league catching. The only benefits I see of him starting in AAA would be to develop the Bumgarner-Posey battery, but it doesn’t look like Bumgarner will start out the season in Fresno. O avodingr the Super 2 thing which I’ve never really looked into to know exactly how it works. I think starting Posey every Bumgarner start would be a good option.
by atxgiantsfan on Jan 22, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is so much mythology behind being a catcher and it is BS. Posey is either ready as a hitter or he is not. All the other stuff is basically meaningless.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Name A Major League Manager That Agrees
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That should be quite simple seeing as he knows 28 of them on a first-name basis.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
by dregarx on Jan 22, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the opinion of thirty men can counter reams of statistics.
clutches spreadsheets
by speckops on Jan 23, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only A Fool Thinks He Knows More Then The Professionals
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is FUCKING MORONIC
people fail upward in all aspects of life. Just because somebody is high-ranking does not mean they’re any more knowledgeable than anyone else. Obviously the players are great at playing baseball because they have a natural gift, but their word DOES NOT trump actual recorded FACTS of events that have happened, it doesn’t matter if they’re professionals or not.
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by bondslegend on Jan 23, 2010 1:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We Are Talking About All 30 MLB Managers Not Just One
Did all 30 fail upward? I will take the opinion of all 30 MLB mangers on the value of catchers over the opinion of an amateur stat worshiper every day of the week.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 2:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I suspect if you were to ask, you’d realize that not all 30 MLB managers share the same opinion on this matter.
by speckops on Jan 23, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Find Me A Quote From One That Disagrees
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What? I’m merely pointing out that it is highly unlikely for any group of 30 people to agree completely on anything.
by speckops on Jan 23, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On This It Is Clear To Me These 30 Men Do
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Find me a quote that proves this is the case. Preferably from each one of them.
by speckops on Jan 23, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You Only Have To Find One - You Go First
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit
don’t deflect.
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GRM
that’s not the way it works. You’re the one making a positive claim here (all 30 managers agree that Posey isn’t ready to start), so YOU have to provide the evidence.
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by Viliphied on Jan 24, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good for you
and I will call it stupid every day of the week. Thinking like yours leads to bengie fucking molina being thought of as a good player.
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by bondslegend on Jan 23, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He Is A Good Player If You Properly Value Leading A Pitching Staff
Baseball is played by people not computers and how people interact matters. The pitcher catcher relationship matters.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to argue with a brick wall any further
it has been PROVEN that a catcher has little to no impact on a pitching staff. That is a fact. Just because someone who makes a lot of money disagrees with that does not mean it isn’t true.
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by bondslegend on Jan 23, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, It Has Not Been Proven.
It has yet to be successfully measured and thus has been therorized and assumed by some stat heads to not exist.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is statistical evidence that proves a catcher has EXTREMEMLY minimal effect on a pitching staff
if there’s any effect at all. That is fact. What 30 people SUPPOSEDLY (according to you) say isn’t.
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some Evidence Is Not The Same As Proof
by giantsrainman on Jan 24, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This just in: evidence != proof! What, pray tell, is more convincing proof than evidence?
by speckops on Jan 24, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No It Doesn't
There is plenty of evidence presented by both sides in a trial.
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 2:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, in that case, please present evidence that a catcher has a noticeable effect on the pitching staff.
by speckops on Jan 25, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Call MLB Managers, Coaches, And Scouts To The Stand
It is clear to me from their actions and words that they are convinced that it does.
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Also Call Tom Tango's WAR To The Stand
What other possible explanation is there for catchers having 5 runs more of positional adjustment then shortstops. The number of defensive plays a Catcher is involved in including stolen base attempts is actually small compared to other positions when you eliminate catching strike three ( the easiest PO of all). Clearly this positional adjustment has a lot to do with the catchers responsibilities as the leader of the pitching staff.
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you e-mail him yourself?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
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by baetown415 on Jan 25, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Catcher is also by far the most physically exhausting position to play. It could be about that.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 26, 2010 5:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this
Basically most positional adjustments can be inferred from their respective hitting averages. Catchers are the worst hitting position players, ergo they must be the hardest to develop, ergo they have the highest positional adjustment.
Positional adjustments are VALUE driven – “what is the value of a catcher who hits X with average defense?”
also
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by zenbitz on Jan 26, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No exactly
BP’s positional adjustments are VALUE driven.
Tango’s (the ones GRM referenced) are TALENT driven. But the results are similar.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 27, 2010 6:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Again
not continuing this. You are not reasonable.
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually You Aren't.
You don’t even understand the difference between evidence and proof or for that matter fact and opinion. .
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 2:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, whatever
statistical evidence = proof = fact. Take a class.
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by bondslegend on Jan 25, 2010 2:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No It Doesn't
Just because nobody has figured out how to measure something with stats does not mean it has been proven not to exist. Frankly you have to be very closed minded to think this way.
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 2:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And because you can't measure it, you don't really have a firm grasp of what effect it actually has and the extent to which the effect affects.... yeah
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
by baetown415 on Jan 25, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True To An Extent
But MLB Managers, Coaches, And Scouts act and talk like they are convinced that the effect is both real and significant. I am open minded on this. If these pros show signs of reconsidering their position on this I will too. In the mean time I remain very skeptical that current statical analysis is sufficient to warrant changing my mind.
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they say the same thing about clutch hitting, too
something that has been demonstrated not to be a skill the correlates year-to-year (boy I had to word that carefully)
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by zenbitz on Jan 26, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Consider This "Demonstrated" Either
Again, not yet knowing how to measure something is not proof that it does not exist. It is indeed evidence that it may not exist. But again the actions of professionals is counter evidence that it does exist. On this too I have not yet seen good enough reasons to go against the opinions of the professionals.
by giantsrainman on Jan 26, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IgnoranceIgnoranceIgnoranceIgnorance
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone knows xanthan is a computer.
But I’m starting to think GRM might be, too. It is literally impossible for him (it?) to leave any word in the subject line uncapitalized and it’s starting to freak me out.
by goGSW24 on Jan 23, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I saw him miss one the other day. Besides, if he were a computer, he would be siding with the computers in this debate.
(Not that this is really a debate, per se. This is GRM being loudly wrong. There are many things upon which all Major League managers have agreed upon throughout the years which turned out to be wrong.)
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always wonder who is believing the politicians.
by ktice on Jan 23, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Politicians don’t get their jobs in the same way as MLB managers. Come on now
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 23, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Most of a manager’s job is to sell a party line. Thats why they like Bork so much.
by ktice on Jan 25, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Believing Them When They All Agree Is Not The Same As Believing One Or Even The Majority
Now in politics it seems to never happen that they all agree but if they do I am very likely to accept such a judgment on their behalf.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GM’s used to all agree that AVG is more important than OBP. Every single one of them. For more than 100 years.
Saying that it’s unlikely that they’re all wrong is one thing, but competently rejecting that as a possibility just because they’re professionals is insane.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 23, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf
Completely, not competently.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 23, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Think This Is True
Many always valued walks and not making outs. Just because the media didn’t pay any attention to tracking OBP doesn’t mean the GMs and Managers didn’t. I will agree that paying attention to this was not a majority view in many periods of baseball’s past but it was not an unheld view.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a difference between valuing walks and realizing OBP is more important than AVG. And you should try backing your claims too, since you asked speckops to do so. Find me evidence of a GM in the 60’s who thought OBP is more important than AVG.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 24, 2010 4:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GM
Branch Rickey.
He’s it though, probably.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 24, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His ideas never really caught on with other GMs, though.
It’s been pretty well established that OBP was under-compensated compared to it’s value to a team in the early 2000’s. That’s pretty strong evidence that old baseball men do not always perfectly understand the game that they’re in charge of.
FU, FO
by oldjacket on Jan 24, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, So All 30 GMs Did Not Walk In Lock Step On This Issue?
MY FUCKING MIND IS BLOWN
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But, to nitpick, he retired in 1955, so there really was no GM in the 60’s who thought OBP is more important than AVG.
Rickey was awesome, though, and for like 7 different reasons.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 24, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Manager, not GM, but...
Earl Weaver.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear GRM,
You mean “than.”
Sincerely,
The Grammar Police
by speckops on Jan 23, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, defend your position.
Tell me how the mythology of catchers is not BS and please don’t cache your answer in cliches like, “he knows how to handle a pitching staff”. And then when you do make a salient point, tell me what would happen if your point were not fully realized by an “inexperienced” catcher such as Posey.
Example:
-Statement by GRM or Bruce Bochey:
“Posey does not know the pitching staff well enough to call a game. A catcher needs to be on the same page with a pitcher for the sake of a pitchers rhythm.” Ok, so what would happen if Posey could not properly call a game? He would be shaken off and he and the pitcher would work it out, or Bochey calls the pitches from the dugout.
Your move.
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 23, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You Just Don't Get It
Baseball is not played by computers. It is played by people and thus relationships matter. Trust matters. Pitchers don’t want to be shaking off their catcher much as it creates doubt and messes with rhythm. Pitchers absolutely don’t want to be waiting for the catcher to get the signal from the bench on every pitch and then having to worry about explaining the manager why he shaked off the pitch selection from the bench.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In the 80’s Roger Craig used to call the pitches for the Giants. They won the West in ’87 and the NL in ’89. To claim it is not possible or successful is just not true.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_12_61/ai_93448069/pg_2/
It is towards the bottom of the page, and you should be familiar with the guy who is saying that Craig called the pitches.
Ok, so that I have refuted your claim. Let’s have another.
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 23, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kruk's Statements Are In Disagreement With Your Interpretation Of Kuip On This
Krukow says Brenly called the pitches and Kuiper says Craig did. I will go with the pitcher on this but I have no problem believing that on occasion in critical situations Craig called some pitches. No way no how do I believe Craig called all the pitches or even a significant amount of the pitches.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is not played by computers. It is played by people and thus relationships matter.
What are these “relationships” you speak of? You mean talking to other people every day without the benefit of a computer?
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 23, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If that’s true, it should manifest itself in some way, right? Do you have evidence of it manifesting itself? If such evidence does not exist (for example, a rise in FIP with a pitcher who does not trust his catcher), then we can conclude that it does not matter.
by speckops on Jan 23, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Trust The Combined Judgment Of All 30 MLB Managers On This
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS ARGUMENT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT
and I don’t even care anymore. Someone as willfully ignorant as you doesn’t deserve anger or rational discussion. There isn’t a point, because you are incapable of realizing your argument is baseless and makes no sense.
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's useless trying to argue
watch some football
by sfoakbay on Jan 24, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am!
GO COLTS. GEUX SAINTS
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*shook
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to go ahead and theorize
That the pitcher-catcher relationship is probably less important than Sabean and Bochy say it is, and more important than MCC thinks it is.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 23, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 23, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And another +1
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Jan 25, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shh, don’t interrupt a fight with wisdom.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 23, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
worse than super 2 status is the possibility of losing him to FA a year earlier. it’s not worth giving him 8 starts and 50 PA in the first half if that’s the case. although the combined production of whiteside and a year older bengie is terrifying. oh, the humanity OBP!
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
by jasomack on Jan 22, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
If Posey, is a “cornerstone” and the “Giants’ Way” is to have home-grown players be the foundation, maximizing Posey’s usefulness over the longer term makes sense, even it means he starts the season in Fresno.
Also, to those who say he’s been catching long enough, I tend to disagree. He’s still a relative newcomer to the position. Catchers are usually catchers from way back, whereas Posey converted to catcher in college.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 24, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh jesus
If he started the year as a backup catcher
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He won’t…not for us anyway, they just DFA’d him.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 22, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like this
We give Bengie a lot of shit. This was a cool thing to do.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 22, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As someone just learning of the Freddy Sanchez news, I’ve been laughing for the past few minutes since reading that article. I’d think Baggs was the best comedy writer in all of baseball if I didn’t know he was an honest to God reporter. This team is toooooo too funny.
The Office, 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, Modern Family, Giants Baseball.
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Aside from Aziz Ansari, Parks and Rec is terrible.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
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by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Jan 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Much improved this season. Ron F***in’ Swanson.
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, the show has hit it’s stride and is very good now.
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe i should give it another shot. I took it off my dvr after last season.
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by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Jan 22, 2010 3:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This season is MUCH MUCH better than last season, and it’s getting very good right now. I think you can catch up on Hulu
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown:
How angry are you right now?
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 22, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Time Warner (Comcast) probably has a few episodes through On Demand (free).
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All episodes can be seen on the NBC website. I highly recommend this show!
by crazedcrustacean on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last season of Parks was rough. It's definitely picked up.
Kind of like the first season of the (American) Office—first season was…okay, and the second season was stellar.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
by Juan Primo on Jan 22, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. And it happened in the same number of episodes, almost.
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And it’s written by Ken Tremendous! Actually, this is a reason not to watch it. Hopefully it gets cancelled and FJM comes back to life.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Jan 22, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
FJM was one of my favorite things ever, but like they said, there’s only so many times you can get angry at people saying stupid things. They quit before it got played out. d
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
D!!!!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Jan 22, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree 100%. It’s the best ensemble on television.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the WuTang of SitComs
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Parks and Rec is the funniest show out of all four of them on Thursday nights
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Community has really grown on me, but it definitely took a while…
by Fresburg on Jan 23, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How does it feel to be SOOOOOOO wrong???
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
First of all isn't the Office on Thursday nights
secondly Community is better than P&R
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Community is not funny.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it is
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NUH UH!!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt p&r thursdays too?
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Heimy said that P&R is the best show on Thursday show and I said it’s the 3rd show (at best)
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
though like many here, I haven’t watched it lately. I’ll hafta give it another shot i spose
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'll give it another chance
but The Office (even in a down year) is a must see. And Community is pretty damn funny.
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Community is good, but come on Parks and Rec has been on FIRE this season
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 22, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Practice Date episode was classic
by Fresburg on Jan 23, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
community>office>p&r
although all three have been hilarious this season
by sfoakbay on Jan 23, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is in disagreement with my beliefs.
30 Rock>Office>Community (although I like them all)
And I don’t watch P&R, so I have no opinion.
by goGSW24 on Jan 23, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
30 Rock>P&R>Community
I don’t watch the Office that much. It is funny when I watch it, but as someone who works in an office, it is often too painful to be as escapist as I want television to be.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 23, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
So much of the humor in The Office comes from really negative emotions: ennui, anger, fear, frustration, depression, pettiness, abuse of power… the dark side are they. Everybody Loves Raymond was the same.
The Office is vastly, epically, preposterously better than ELR, though. Obviously.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's funny
my sister had the same reaction: Michael reminded her of an incompetent boss she recently got away from. I mean, the reaction wasn’t funny but I sometimes forget that some of the stuff (i.e. sexual harassment day) isn’t really that far off from real experiences people might have had. Todd Packer is one of my favorite characters, but I bet 60 year old women who worked in private industry don’t find him humorous.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 24, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Parks and Rec is a rarely amusing regurgitation of The Office, nothing more. Copied the style down to the last detail, breaking the fourth wall, etc.
by maysian on Jan 24, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sam23's list
Long Reply chain
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Office has gone so downill lately. Come on, a CLIP SHOW?!?!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 22, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was kinda lame
especially after such a long break. I still like it though
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree, amy poehler is amazingly unfunny post SNL
Thing A
by sam23 on Jan 22, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes true… is there an opposite for not?
Felicitations, malefactors! I am endeavoring to misappropriate the formulary for the preparation of affordable comestibles. Who will join me!?
by MetalFaceDoom on Jan 24, 2010 1:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, i watched last weeks episode. When ron asked for fridge space for his personal deviled eggs i almost did a spit take.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
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by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Jan 23, 2010 2:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I like Tosh.0 more and more every time I watch it.
Tosh kills me. He says the most “Oh no he dint” things with the most amazingly innocent smile.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 22, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You dropped this
COMMUNITY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Has that gotten better?
I watched the first 3 episodes and was not sold.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto.
Well, I only managed two episodes, actually. I didn’t find it remotely funny.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
by Juan Primo on Jan 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the first couple episodes were all character building, which took way too long. Since then it has been really good. The christmas episode had some great lines in it.
by Fresburg on Jan 23, 2010 8:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take it or leave it show for me. Nothing against it, thanks for picking it up, though.
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Community > Parks & Rec
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
www.TommyLasordaistheAntichrist.com
by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Jan 22, 2010 4:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 22, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by jwizzle241 on Jan 23, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 23, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aye
Felicitations, malefactors! I am endeavoring to misappropriate the formulary for the preparation of affordable comestibles. Who will join me!?
by MetalFaceDoom on Jan 24, 2010 1:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dude, I think you just broke the record for most comments on a FanShot
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. My God, the Dodgers suck.
by Ramah71 on Jan 24, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have watched every episode , waiting for it to kick in with me, and I still don’t like it.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Modern Family. Great cast led by Al Bundy.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Jan 22, 2010 4:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Halloween episode of Community might be my favorite single episode of a comedy in 2009
Abed as Batman slays me.
by dprodigy19 on Jan 22, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was amazing.
Troy and Abed are the two best new characters of the year imo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Troy is awesome
The guy who plays him got a job writing on 30 Rock while he was still an RA at NYU, so he had to keep his RA beeper on his first week on the show.
by dprodigy19 on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Still really like the show. Last weeks was not too great, and I haven’t watched yesterday’s yet.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 22, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But in this particular situation comedy . . .
. . . don’t forget The Middle. Isn’t that most appropriate?
Don't believe everything you think.
by wcovington on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF Office
Shrewish Pam, serious Jim…. I’m not liking this season so much.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 22, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, Jim has become a major douche this season
by crazedcrustacean on Jan 22, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 23, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
shanghaijim
becomes shanghaipam for a minute.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 24, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s always been a major douche, tbh
I think it’s gotten worse the last two years.
That said, I haven’t watched a single episode of The Office this season
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jan 23, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my goodness +1 soulmate!
Felicitations, malefactors! I am endeavoring to misappropriate the formulary for the preparation of affordable comestibles. Who will join me!?
by MetalFaceDoom on Jan 24, 2010 1:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jim has always been a huge douchebag. Never liked him.
Felicitations, malefactors! I am endeavoring to misappropriate the formulary for the preparation of affordable comestibles. Who will join me!?
by MetalFaceDoom on Jan 24, 2010 1:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's always been a douche
but likeably so. Since he became the boss it’s been sorta the other direction
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re exploring how hard it is to be the boss in an office and still be cool with people.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 24, 2010 8:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Read: probably impossible
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate those two. I want a show with Ryan and Creed and Stanley and Phyllis.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 22, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Creed is a great character
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Creed is my hero
and my favorite ex-70s band member from Coarsegold, CA.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Creed is great because he isn't featured as much
He can be crazier that way. He’d just be annoying in a bigger role.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by jwizzle241 on Jan 23, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Check out my blog at:
www.net.creedthoughts.gov/blog.gov.com
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 23, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even for the internet, it’s pretty shocking.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 23, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. This is the problem most sitcoms make – they have a character like Creed and they’re popular, so they give them more screen-time and the joke gets old.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"Out, out, Fred Lewis!" - JCTillam Gamerspeare
by jponry on Jan 23, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you have this to look forward to
when Krasinski and Jenna Fischer leave and Michael adopts his cousin Oliver! Oh, the hijinks that will ensue.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 24, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan is far and away my least favorite character.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 23, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+100000
I realize he’s supposed to be unlikeable, but he reminds me way too much of trust fund jerks I’ve had to work with/for (even though that’s not his character’s background).
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Bengie Molina: "I don't understand why they didn't want to commit to another year, with my numbers and my experience and things like that." Brain Sabean: "He's certainly welcomed back with open arms".
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 24, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
30 Rock is definitely my favorite show on television. But Thursday nights is by far the best night on TV.
by Fresburg on Jan 23, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have kept his righty bat on the roster.
/awaits inevitable Eric Byrnes sigh-ning.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Jan 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
STOP IT
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NEGATIVITY!!!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
VERSATILITY
Your bench player is our #5 hitter!!!
by Mr. Angry on Jan 22, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
From the KLAW: “Will that really be enough room?”
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
by cheno on Jan 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
sik berne!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Athletics lose a player to the priesthood, and we cut Jesus. What the f… is going on here?
by Mrbasepaul on Jan 22, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And our Angel murdered a man
Years after we were destroyed by Angels!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Jan 22, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Angel Pagan loses his starting job
Now I’m confused
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A documentary about that opens today, in fact.
by Every6thDay on Jan 22, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this based on a comic book? What’s it about?
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 22, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Original screenplay
After God loses faith in humanity, the archangel Michael (Paul Bettany), who has become a fallen angel, is the only one standing between mankind and Armageddon. This time using angels to execute the Last Judgment, God’s wrath descends on Earth to exterminate the world’s population. In a desperate, last-chance gambit, Michael leads a group of strangers to a small New Mexico diner to become unlikely heroes to protect a young waitress (Adrianne Palicki) who may be pregnant with Christ in his second coming.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Jan 22, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that could be the dumbest idea for a movie ever. Even dumber than a hot tub that sends people back to the 80’s.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 22, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe that movie got made.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“WAIT! Wait, hear me out! I can still come up with a hit… um… OK, I got it! We’ll get the Rock, right? And he’ll be a hockey player; one of those guys who knocks other players’ teeth out, right? OK, now- you’re gonna LOVE this- he becomes the TOOTH FAIRY! And, uh, Julie Andrews! She owes the studio a favor, right? We can get her in on this, too, as his boss or something! So? Whaddaya think? Do we have a hit, or do we have a hit?!”
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anything goes with kids movies.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Jan 22, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“OK, OK, so we’ve got these hamsters, right? No, guinea pigs! But- and trust me, you’re gonna LOVE this, you’re gonna DIE when I tell you this- they’re spies for the FBI! We’ll get Jerry Bruckheimer to direct it, and a bunch of stars to do the voices… Nick Cage, Tracy Morgan, Penelope Cruz, something like that. They love that voiceover CGI shit. Easy payday for them. So? Whaddaya think? Do we have a hit, or do we have a hit?”
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
What is this hot tub movie?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 22, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hot Tub Time Machine
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s looks sweet
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 22, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be Hot Tub Time Machine
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha some part of me wants to see that actually lol
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Jan 22, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
… yah, I think I like “Supernatural” better.
Although it is notable this whole “angels are out to get us” meme filtering through the zeitgeist. Remember in the 90s it was all Roma Downey and Hallmark greetings?
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 22, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KILL ANGELS WITH GUNS!!!!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Jan 22, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds cool
Not really
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 22, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that the same plot as Dogma? I mean, more or less
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
by bobnothing on Jan 22, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really; that had two angels trying to get back into Heaven and wreaking havoc on earth, and the people/beings protecting the chosen girl were sent by God, who looked like Alanis Morrissette.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 22, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a more believable plot than “Legion” and it was a comedy.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 23, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Kevin Smith actually knows what he’s referencing.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 23, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot that shit monster or whatever that was.
I was promised lasagna.
by Cookyman on Jan 23, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, fanboy fanservice extraneous to a plot summary.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 23, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and the people/beings protecting the chosen girl were sent by God, who looked like Alanis Morrissette.
Actually, God was in a coma, so didn’t choose anyone for anything.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 24, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit I forgot that. That was the plot!
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 24, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To continue on the religion-based plots
I saw “Book of Eli” yesterday. Very good movie & well-acted (except for Mila Kunis /waits for ban). You know those characters where you’re mesmerized when one character is on the screen? Both Denzel & Oldman did that in this movie, and that covers about 90% of the film.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 25, 2010 7:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it last week and you nailed it.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Jan 25, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean and Groeschner defended the due diligence of the medical department, saying they’d taken four MRIs of Sanchez’s shoulder prior to the club signing the second baseman to a two-year, $12 million extension early in the offseason. Groeschner said much of diagnostic medicine is interpretation. "It’s sports medicine. It’s not black and white all the time." Sanchez hadn’t tested the shoulder until mid-December because he was rehabbing from knee surgery. But when he began swinging a bat, the discomfort recurred. In an exploratory scope, the damage was discovered and repaired. Sabean said he doesn’t have "any doubt (Sanchez) will be back on the field in due order and be the guy who we traded for."
So much LOL
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 3:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Groeschner is a bigger moron than Bochy
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If there were no concerns why would you need to take 4 MRIs of the same shoulder? Fucking idiots can’t even lie well.
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you look at the bizarro version of the Giants medical staff. Sabean knows how to hold ’em. Epstein knows how to fold ’em and walk away blah blah blah
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Four Different Doctors To Get Not Just A Second But 3rd And 4th Opinion In An Effort To Be Sure
In which case all four doctors were total failures.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh. 4 MRIs doesn’t mean 4 different doctors.
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It Could And Neither Of Us Knows For Sure. My Guess Is As Good As Yours On This.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
never assume
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jan 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many nurses are in this equation?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HELLO nurse.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 23, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 23, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I remember this!!
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 26, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it’s pretty clear. They would’ve had said we got 4 different opinions not we had 4 different MRIs.
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Come one
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or come on
jesus christ, what the fuck is with me tonight?? I cannot type at all.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Come all
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In a world...
Where you believe that a player can come back from an injury (or 5) and be the same player he was at now an advanced (over 30) age, Sabean and company did the right thing. They got multiple tests and possibly opinions.
The problem is that they think that a player of Sanchez’ age and history can come back and be the player that he was. This should be the end of the story. No tests should have been ordered. No opinions needed. Move along. This is not the second baseman you are looking for.
Let’s not blame the medical staff too much. They work at the discretion of management.
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
The young guys may get a chance yet. This team is a walking orthopedic clinic. It all depends on whether Jupiter Head plays the hurt guys.
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Early 30's Should Not Be Considered An Advanced Age
This label should apply to late 30’s only.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah! (32)
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 22, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m 33, so I get it, but I’m not a professional athlete, except that I am Pedro Feliz, so I guess I am a professional athlete.
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 23, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 37
but my job requires me to sit at a desk. I’ve got at least 30 more years to go, and that still won’t get me to where my pops is, still working at 68.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 23, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doctor's have to sit at desks?
what about curing the swine flu, (which isn’t that big of a threat IMO)
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In another 30 years, that chair you’re sitting in is going to be really stanky
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 24, 2010 8:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, me too!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 23, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With his injury history, I believe it should have been.
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 23, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Injury History Is A Much More Valid Argument Then Age When 32 Is The Age We Are Talking About
The Giants medical staff may have blown it on this or Sabean my have chosen to accept too much risk. Frankly we just do not know which if either is true.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s a classic case of CYA, albeit Giants fail-style.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 23, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
you don’t see a connection between age and injury? What?
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Being 32 Doesn't Make You An Injury Risk
It just increases the probability a small amount. Having had multiple injuries before makes you an injury risk regardless of your age.
by giantsrainman on Jan 24, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
New rule!
Anything that begins with “In a world…” has to be read in a voice like that movie trailer guy does. It makes the post even more fun.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 24, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I had that going in my head, and then there was no movie plot.
by woomikee on Jan 25, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS
FREDDY SANCHEZ WILL EVENTUALLY BE FREDDY SANCHEZ
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we all eventually will be Freddy Sanchez, really
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro Feliz will eventually be Freddy Sanchez
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BATTING TITLE
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t wait to see that guy we traded for.
by chilibean_3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
unbelievable.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
by jasomack on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Due diligence sighting.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
#2 in Fanshots
by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean and Groeschner defended the due diligence of the medical department
They kicked Freddy’s tires so often, they injured his rotator cuff.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So, every test of the shoulder they did was unrelated to normal baseball movements?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 22, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, SS Edgar Renteria (elbow surgery) is playing catch from 90 feet three times a week in Miami, in addition to swinging a bat. He told Groeschner he’s excited about where he’s at.
Miami, that is.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
#2 in Fanshots
by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 3:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've been to Miami
It’s really not worth getting excited over.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blah
At least he might be able to throw to first now
by Section B, Row 1 on Jan 22, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Commence the “best shape of his life” rumors.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 22, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you hear?
Renteria’s in the best shape of his life!
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by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His agent thinks he could hit 20 homers next year.
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by Norm Median on Jan 24, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he needs to stay out of the fronton
or he’s gonna get suspended!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 22, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s in Miami, bitch.
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by Viliphied on Jan 24, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why the hell would sabes resign moley sanchez if he had 2 surgerys ?
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by monta.da.boss on Jan 22, 2010 3:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
to try and cover up the fact that he gave away a top prospect for nothing
by Section B, Row 1 on Jan 22, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If by "cover up" you mean
literally covering Sanchez in money, then I guess that works.
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by hairball on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In which case...
…why didn’t he resign Garko?
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by EliminateMe on Jan 22, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
The organizations evaluation of talent and health risks were behind both of these decisions. In neither case did (CYA) have anything to do with the decision.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He can CYA in one situation and not the other, right?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Either your ass is covered, or it’s not.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 22, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I use one of these:
But you can still CYA on one move and not the other. Split the difference. Plus Alderson was more highly regarded than Barnes.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Barnes was still a top 10 prospect though
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere, Goofus is gently weeping while curled into a fetal position and sucking his thumb.
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by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We call that “Friday”.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 22, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well-played
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by Goofus on Jan 22, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So, Bowker’s going to stary in Fresno, Schierholtz will start on the 25 man, with DeRosa, Rownand, Torres, Velez; where does this leave Fred Lewis and Kevin Frandsen?
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by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Problem and The Stopgap
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by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think Frandsen opens the season on the 25 man?
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by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh i doubt it. He has to be on the 40 so they can call him up as the stopgap, right?
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by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But he's out of options
its either a DFA or he becomes a Blue Jay
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i figured as much. You think someone else will claim him? I can’t imagine him starting on the 25 man
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by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely think he will get claimed
I like him more than most people and think he could be a decent regular or a very good utility guy
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the guy is a ML starter, but what do I know.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Renteria thinks Miami is exciting.
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by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
apparently you have not been to the right places.
by wilriv21 on Jan 22, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where did I come into this?
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by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
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by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Bowker can start in Fresno – isn’t he out of options at this point, or am I misremembering?
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by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got one left
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by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, good. I’d hate to lose him because of stupidity.
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by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, good. I’d hate to lose him because of stupidity.
Don’t worry. You will.
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still can’t believe Velez is guaranteed a roster spot and Lewis isn’t
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by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One’s a future cornerstone of the team and the other’s a problem. Duh.
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by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster is all whaaa?
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by xanthan on Jan 22, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Eli Whiteside.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
needz moar gray hair
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by djp4cal on Jan 22, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why do you all
keep posting these pictures of the bullpen catcher? Who cares.
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by natteringnabob on Jan 22, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cornerstone
He’ll be the #3 hitter for the Fresno Grizzlies for a long time
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by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Frannie sticks around until Mole is ready to go.
I think it might just be Fred vs Velez in ST. I mean why else is he getting the neo-Bocock treatment.
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Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
by kennv on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’d be sweet if F.Lew could knock Velez off the 25 man. Freddy Lewis: “the problem solver?”
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by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even though Velez’s ability to play 2B is pretty much worthless because he’s so bad there and his ability to switch hit is pretty much worthless because he’s so awful against lefties I’d be shocked if those two things didn’t keep him on the roster.
Thing A
by sam23 on Jan 24, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and your forgetting his VROOM which is worthless since he is such a bad baserunner.
But the things you list realy make Uribe and DeRosa excellent insurance against needing another 2b.
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by kennv on Jan 25, 2010 6:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man it would sure be nice if they would just DFA Velez.
by taliesin on Jan 22, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We did get him from Toronto...
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why? He Is Still both Cheap And Useful As A Member Of The 5 Man Position Player Bench.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uribe>Velez
Lewis>Velez
Bowker>Velez
Schierholtz>Velez
Torres>Velez
That just about sums it up.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
by dregarx on Jan 22, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only Uribe And Lewis Are Sure Bets to Be
The is as much to doubt about the other 3 as there is about Velez.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 1:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a reasonable point.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
by dregarx on Jan 23, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why?
i’m not sure anyone would pick velez over BOWKERMANIA
by sfoakbay on Jan 23, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t, because he has way more upside.
But GRM is right in that there is just as much uncertainty with Bowker as there is with Velez.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
by dregarx on Jan 23, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think we know that Torres is a good outfielder, so he has that on Velez, and this makes him more attractive since he can be a late-innings defensive replacement.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 23, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could say the same about Schierholtz
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by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Velez Does Have A Good Career UZR/150 In The Outfield Of +9.1 In 464 Innings
Schierholtz and Torres are better at +19 and +15 in 989 and 918 innings respectively. But Bowker is not at just +4 in 232 innings.
by giantsrainman on Jan 24, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But Bowker's offensive upside is clearly higher than Velez's
Nate to me is a fringe starter/good 4th OF. Torres is a solid 4th-5th OF because of Speed & Defense. Bowker could be a ML starter or could be a 4A player. Velez to me isn’t good enough to be on a ML roster.
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by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Upside Is No Reason To Chose Him For The 25 Man Roster Now
The are also plenty in the minors with more upside. What matters is what he is likely to do in 2010 and it is actually a pretty close call as to who is likely to be better in 2010.
by giantsrainman on Jan 25, 2010 2:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Their CHONE lines, for what it’s worth:
Bowker: 0.276/0.349/0.456/8 runs on offense/3 runs on defense.
Velez: .267/0.313/0.392/-16 runs on offense/+6 runs on defense.
Obviously projection systems must be taken cum grano salis, but that’s a giant difference: 2 WAR.
by speckops on Jan 25, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But GRM is right in that there is just as much uncertainty with Bowker as there is with Velez.
I strongly disagree with that. Velez is 28, and he has a good performance in A-ball and 200 good-not-great AAA at-bats that might suggest he’s anything better than a back-of-the-bench guy in seven seasons. Bowker had a phenomenal year last year, and he did it by completely reworking his hitting approach, which might suggest it’s a sustainable improvement.
I’d say there’s uncertainty with Bowker, but there isn’t much with Velez. What you see is what you get there.
by Grant on Jan 24, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh.
I agree with you now, not GRM.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
by dregarx on Jan 24, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He being Bowker.
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Current Team: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Molina, Renteria, Schierholtz
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Current Team's CHONE WAR projection= 12.6
by dregarx on Jan 23, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
made more sense than huff at 1B
let’s see, young 1B has big offensive upside potential, can’t play defense. let’s give actual money to an older, grittier proven commodity, who happens to be a 1B with NO upside and NO defense.
i can’t see this team sniffing the playoffs or even matching 88 wins. I am disgusted and have no desire to give this team my hardly earned money this year. hopefully if the season goes as i expect we won’t have to suffer another year of bochy and sabean.
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by jasomack on Jan 22, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah, then we DFA the young guy. i rambled a lot for two paragraphs.
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by jasomack on Jan 22, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He Has A Proven 4+ WAR Upside As Shown By His 2008 Season.
It is laughable to suggest that Guzman (or even Garko and Ishikawa) have an upside anywhere near this.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His 2008 season was great
but how was his 09 season? that’s what most people are worried about.
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants tend to bring out the downside though, GRM. F. Sanchez is already on track to fuck your projections up.
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by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants Age tend to bring out the downside though, GRM. F. Sanchez is already on track to fuck your projections up.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It takes two to tango. I would love to know how many other GM’s would’ve given that contract to F. Sanchez.
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by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Given the market for Orlando Hudson & Felipe Lopez
I’d say not many
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly Missing The First Few weeks Of The Season Should Not Have Much Impact.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps not
but actually missing them might.
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by delorean on Jan 22, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatcha smokin’?
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by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Games In April Don't Count In The Standings As Much As Games In September,
right?
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, because after those first few weeks, he won’t possibly get injured again or miss any more time, amirite?
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by jponry on Jan 22, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus christ
why can’t you just say that they did something wrong?
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Jan 22, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because I Don't Believe I Did - I See Him As Still Likely To Play In More Then 120 Games
Which is the choice I selected in my projections using Fangraphs tool.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When you reach the age that Huff is at
it’s more likely to be downside
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Relative To Peak Yes - Relative To Valley No
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But the Giants need him to perform close to his peak if they want a better offense
If they get the 08 version then they are clearly much better. If they get the 09 version then they are better with Ishikawa. And Huff will likely perform closer to his 09 form.
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, His Career Average Of .345 wOBA Will Be A Significant Improvement
He does not need to match his peak of .387 wOBA that he achieved in 2008.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, he’s been below that 2 of the last 3 seasons, and none of the projection systems think he’ll be above .338.
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by jcb9 on Jan 23, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Moving away from the AL East could do him some good, though.
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by Cookyman on Jan 23, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Though to be fair, none of them had Guzman above .334
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by Viliphied on Jan 24, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think it’s upside anymore when he’s done it once in the last 5 years, he’s 33, and he’s coming off the worst season of his career. add the fact that bochy won’t platoon him (saying something to the effect of “you’re cleanup hitter has to always be in the lineup always”) even though he can’t hit lefties, and oh yeah his ‘08 season was held up by an flukey FB% that, if it were to magically return, wouldn’t help him much moving to a park that depresses lefty HR’s by something like 10-15%.
sorry for the rambling again, i’m celebrating the completion of the giants’ offseason moves with a few several sierra nevadas…
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by jasomack on Jan 22, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
33 Ain't Old
This view that the world ends at 30 is just F’n ridiculous.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It IS old for baseball
You have to have been pretty exceptional at your peak to have enough left to continue to play that long.
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by DrStankus on Jan 22, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
you must work for the Giants FO!
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I Just Don't Live In The Fantasyland World You Do.
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you live in the fantasyland world around the corner
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by DrStankus on Jan 22, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please just stop
we’re not talking about the real world here. In real life, no, 30 is not old. In baseball, a player over the age of 30 is on the decline 98% of the time. There are VERY few exceptions to this fact.
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by bondslegend on Jan 23, 2010 1:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you ask Ladanian Tomlinson if he thinks 30 is old?
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by bondslegend on Jan 23, 2010 1:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Ain't Football
Being on the back end of peak is not the same as truely being in decline. Most that make it to 33 healthy as MLB starters for their entire career are still at least at that career average level even though they have passed their peak.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 2:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Their decline generally is not rapid though...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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by baetown415 on Jan 23, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not
but you certainly shouldnt build a team where the majority of your key players are over 30. That is stupid.
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by bondslegend on Jan 23, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't See A Problem With One And Two Year Deals For Such Players
As long as you are trying to develop in house their replacements and the Giants are. What would be stupid would be to turn over these PAs to AAAA players that will not match the likely performance of said veterans and thus totally waste the elite pitching this is already in place.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not really
in their phantom rebuilding philosophy, they give aging vets short term deals, and once those deals are over, they resign those vets or some other crappy one to another short term deals, several times per season. this endless cycle prevents younger players from playing, like bowker, lewis, frandsen, etc.
by sfoakbay on Jan 23, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All But Lewis Are AAAA And they Have All Had Their Chances
Bowker will get more chances just as Schierholtz will. In Lewis the Giants are indeed wasting him. He is nothing special but he is an average MLB starting corner outfielder if allowed to play regularly.
by giantsrainman on Jan 23, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Frandsen had his chance?
The one year (2007) when he had over 200 AB’s he put up solid numbers.
BA-.269
OBP-.331
SLG-.379
So when he got a chance he put up good numbers so how is he a 4A player?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THEY HAD THEIR 50 FUCKING PAS AND DID SHIT WITH THEM
FUCK THOSE LOSERS. LETS SIGN A 55 YEAR OLD BECAUSE HE WAS GOOD 4 YEARS AGO!!
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Julio Franco=1B of the future
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 2:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
shhhhh, not too loud they'll hear you
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm sure those tires have been sufficiently kicked
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 24, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't see a problem with anything the Giants do
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Simply Not True
Go read my grade of the Giants offseason in either dregarz’s “Rethinking The Offseason” or CanOfCorn’s “Joe Posnanski” FanPosts.
by giantsrainman on Jan 24, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dutifully following orders:
Some stairs! Some stairs! My kingdom for some stairs!
by VidaWantsYourCar on Jan 22, 2010 3:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not a big loss. His glove was awful and his hitting stats weren’t that great when translated.
#1 FanShot Champion
by xanthan on Jan 22, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
His MLE is still better than what Huff did in 2009, though!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t have 85 RBIs last year like Huff did, though!
#1 FanShot Champion
by xanthan on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
0 MLB RBIs in his career!
SUX
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have both Garko and Phelps,
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
by baetown415 on Jan 22, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Timmy and (Michael) Phelps were on the same team, I’m sure that we’d see Huff a-plenty. Plus these two guys.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EPIC
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A Jung Bong = $513 in Vancouver, WA
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought that the shape of bongs made them more of a Freudian thing
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
by bobnothing on Jan 22, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT:
Jayson Stark verbally blows Mariano Rivera
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
#2 in Fanshots
by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 3:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 22, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not a huge loss
I’d prefer to see him & Ishikawa instead of Huff but whatever. Of all the things Sabes has done this isn’t that awful.
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Schulman:
I’m hearing LHP Noah Lowry might be close to picking a team. It’s not the Giants, not surprisingly.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I may root for him even if he becomes a Dodger. One of my all-time favorite Giants.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 22, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Dodger, I’d root for him…to stay hurt.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 22, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd root for him to have an awesome season
but suck it hard against the Giants
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Jan 22, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This. Though Noah a Dodger…that’s a pretty painful image.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd root for him to have an awesome season
the four days out of five he’s not pitching.
When you step on that mound in Dodger blue, you’re dead to me.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jan 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will never root for a Dodger!!!
by 49erEmpire on Jan 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he’s on the bench, injured, and draining millions from the Dodgers?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Schmidt and Andrew Jones – my two all favorite Dodgers
by crazedcrustacean on Jan 22, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope he doesn’t wear dodger blue.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he does and contributes the way Jason Schmidt did.
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Jan 22, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah and Jesus
Well, that covers both Testaments
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 22, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Signing with the Angels or Friars would be a match made in heaven.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(Oh Lord, that was cheesy.)
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t stop other people from making the same joke!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 22, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not an original sin? Thank God!
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully he becomes a Cincinnati Red
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Sea What You Did There.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, their medical staff won’t make an Ararat the diagnostic stage like the Giants’ did.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you did thar.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I find it hard to believe that he’s got anything to offer, sadly.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 23, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants have designated infielder Jesus Guzman for assignment, tweets Andrew Baggarly of The San Jose Mercury News. The move frees up a 40-man roster spot for Bengie Molina.
The 25-year-old Guzman hit a clean .250/.250/.250 in 20 big league plate appearances last season, his first taste of the show. He’s a career .299/.368/.470 hitter in the minors (.344/.368/.491 in 565 Triple-A plate appearances), and has spent considerable time at first, second, and third base while dabbling in the corner outfield spots. Sounds like a pretty decent player.
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 4:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
has spent considerable time at first, second, and third base while dabbling in the corner outfield spots
VERSATILITY
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sould Read
has spent considerable time demonstrating his iron glove at first, second, and third base while dabbling with it in the corner outfield spots
by giantsrainman on Jan 22, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like me, Guzman is very offensive
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Jan 22, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
.250/.250/.250 is the platonic ideal of a Giants batting line.
by Evan on Jan 22, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Needz More RIB EYEZ
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
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by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gotta have a good glove to catch those RIBEYE opportunities
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 22, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Matt Kemp likes to watch
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/2002/01/25/duke_recruit/
Got this while venturing into enemy territory (True Blue LA) for news of Lowry being a Dodger. I believe Shelden Williams was a NBA lottery pick but is now considered a bust.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 22, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We have chosen Money over Jesus
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 22, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Buster Olney of ESPN tweets that the Nationals have put Josh Willingham on the market once again. If they move the soon-to-be 31-year-old, it could clear the way for Adam Dunn to be moved to the outfield. Willingham recently avoided arbitration with the Nats, agreeing to a one-year, $4.6MM pact.
Sorry for the quote bonanza. Would rather have had willingham than Derosa and Huff. I hate thist team.
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
could clear the way for Adam Dunn to be moved to the outfield.
NATINLOLS
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
#2 in Fanshots
by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know the drill. Sabean calls and they ask for Bumgarner or Sanchez.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Jan 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I would quite possibly trade MadBum for Willingham. I almost certainly would have prior to the Derosa signing.
by taliesin on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t be serious. He’s 31, can’t play defense, and will be a free agent in a year or two.
by Evan on Jan 22, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, thought he was team-controlled longer. Now that I look, perhaps not. I just remembered that I thought if they were going to trade Alderson last year they should have got Willingham rather than Sanchez.
by taliesin on Jan 22, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm, right?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 22, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More Schulman
Groeschner said Sanchez’s goal is to be ready opening day, but realistically he might have to sit the first two weeks of the season. More will be known in March.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sabean was asked if he would have done anything different with the contract.
“Not at all,” he said. “The degree of due diligence was done on the medical side. It shows the medical profession isn’t perfect. . . . Nothing more could’ve been done. We checked out every medical question.”
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Until Sanchez is OK, Juan Uribe is expected to play second and Edgar Renteria leads a list of candidates to take Sanchez’s spot as the No. 2 hitter.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean said any other player additions would not be added to the 40-man roster.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Jan 22, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Commence Eric Byrnes signing.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
#2 in Fanshots
by scout6 on Jan 22, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Commence torch burning and pitchfork sharpening
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Commence Eric Byrnessigningfanpost
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CF Rowand
SS Renteria
3B Sandoval
1B Huff
LF DeRosa
C Molina
2B Uribe
RF Schierholtz
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a freakin’ beut. Opposing pitchers are licking their lips now.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Words are kinda failing me right now.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 22, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOLINEUP
/cries
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 22, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
could that be worse than last season?
by sfoakbay on Jan 23, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Renteria would not hit 2nd on any other MLB roster.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Renteria would not hit 2nd on any other MLB roster.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re probably right. This lineup proves there will be no Championship in S.F. again, this year.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We already knew that, no matter what the lineup, based on this roster.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 22, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Were the tires kicked as well?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Jan 22, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When asked, Sabean defended the team doctors.
“F*** WORK LETS DRINK BRAZZZZ”
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 22, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT THE FUCK?@!?!?!?!?!?!?
WHY ARE YOU DFAING THE PEOPLE ON THE TEAM WHO AT LEAST DO SOMETHING WELL YOU FUCKING MORONS.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
BE SURE TO KEEP BOCOCK ON THE 40 MAN THOUGH!!!
(i know he’s gone. But I’m still pissed)
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Velez, whiteside, torres, burriss, frandsen, renteria, f.sanchez, lolz
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Jan 22, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of those,
I’d rather see velez or burriss gone over guzman. But that’s just me. I don’t know shit about baseball.
Maybe I should try to be Giants’ GM! Apparently I meet all the qualifications.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently I meet all the qualifications.
Cut yourself some slack.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 22, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
…it was only Guzman.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jan 22, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
First the came for Merkin, and I said nothing. Then they came for Guzman, and I was silent…
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 22, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ITS EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
but the fact that they would cut him and not burriss just shows even further how fucking stupid they are. Burriss does NOTHING well, while at least Guzman maybe could hit someday soon.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Burris is a solid defensive middle infielder...
…on a team with Renteria at short and a recovering-from-surgery Freddy Sanchez at second.
Guzman, on the other hand, was probably about sixth on the depth chart at 1B.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jan 23, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta wonder about a guy who can’t defend even at 1B.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 23, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he?
I’m not sure burriss is that good defensively. I thought they had to move him to 2B because he couldn’t handle short, and that he wasn’t that good a 2B either. Though I guess you’re right that they need MI more than 1B. But why not DFA velez then? And, BTW, it’s them being fucking morons that got them into this mess by signing renteria and trading for sanchez in the first place.
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 24, 2010 2:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
This team is depressing and its still Jan. Wow.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Jan 22, 2010 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm so angry
They really are trying hard to turn me away. It’s going to be hard to not just go do something else while this team is hitting.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s going to be hard to not just go do something else while this team ishittingat bat.
Kinda doubt we’re gonna see much hitting, man.
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 22, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, we are all aware that you are angry
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 22, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
below me
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 22, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Things I never want to hear again!
Kick the tires & Due diligence
by m34josh on Jan 22, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
advice:
avoid any story that quotes Sabean
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 22, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about kicking the diligence?
by DFAAurillia on Jan 22, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Professional Hitter
Whenever I hear that term I want to break things
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 22, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I remember feeling really excited when The Jesus was brought up last year. Probably because I was tired of Ish at that time. Well, it was fun, I guess.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 22, 2010 6:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sad day.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 22, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Jayon Werth
Free Agent after 2010. Hits a little worse than Jason Bay, but plays a hell of a lot better defense. If we assume an underwhelming performance from either Nate or Bowker next year, any thoughts on Werth in RF?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 22, 2010 7:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs