Bengie Molina: Back on the Giants
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM PST
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A partial transcript of a fictitious press conference that hasn't happened yet:
Reporter #1: How many RBI will Bengie Molina bring back to the Giants?Sabean: Oh, there’s no question that he’ll bring a bunch of RBI back. He had them neatly packed and hanging in a garment bag, ready to leave, and we weren’t going to be able to replace them. You say we signed a player; I say we signed a bag of RBI that can also manage a pitching staff. It’s a coup for this offense.
Reporter #2: If Bengie Molina is such an integral part of a successful lineup, why do you think he couldn’t find anything close to the contract he was seeking?
Sabean: …
Reporter #2: …
Sabean: …
Reporter #3: In your opinion, why wasn’t Buster Posey ready to be a starting catcher?
Sabean: Well, it’s a complicated position -- the on-field general, really -- and we weren’t sure if Posey was ready to call a good game.
Reporter #3: Couldn’t Bochy call a game from the dugout if that’s such a huge problem?
Sabean: …
Reporter #3: Uh…
Sabean: Bruce has better things to do with his time in the dugout.
Reporter #3: What would Posey do that would make his game-calling so poor? Would he call fastballs down the middle on 3-2 counts? Would he ask Tim Lincecum to throw a three-seam fastball? Did the San Jose Giants or Fresno Grizzlies have instances of bizarre pitches being thrown in crucial situations?
Sabean: The majors are a whole other ball of wax, and at the end of the day, Buster wasn’t ready.
Reporter #1: Bengie Molina had the 2nd-worst on-base percentage in the National League last year, and when he does get on base, he’s the slowest player in baseball. He’s also in awful shape, and he’s going to be 35. Even if we accept the argument that he’s a positive influence on the pitching staff compared to a cheaper free agent, or when compared to what Buster Posey would do, do you think he will improve the Giants’ efforts to score runs?
Sabean: See, that’s just selectively plucking your data points. He was 54th in the league in batting average, and 33rd in RBI. So, yes, he will help the offense.
Reporter #1: Do you think that he’ll continue to get the same number of RBI when he’s not hitting cleanup?
Sabean: Of course, those are the RBI that he’s creating. Why wouldn’t they stay the same? He’s a run producer. So his RBI will just move to a lower spot in the order, which makes this lineup even stronger.
Reporter #3: Do you think that Bengie gives the Giants a chance to score more runs than Buster Posey would, and why?
Sabean: It’s a no-brainer. Of course. Molina is a proven RBI man, and all Posey has done is hit well in the upper minors. We wouldn’t know how Posey would hit until he received playing time in the majors, and we certainly aren’t going to give him playing time in the majors until we know how he’ll hit. That’s how most teams operate, I’m sure. So when you get a chance to add a proven run producer over an unknown quantity, you jump at it.
Reporter #4: What do you think of Beethoven?
Sabean: Great. Especially his poems.
laughter
I had already resigned myself to the idea that the Giants were going to sign a catcher like Rod Barajas or Yorvit Torrealba, neither of whom are much better than Molina. And I’m actually fine with the idea that Posey should be eased into the starting job; he’s young, and catching is a heckuva strain on the body. If Posey was really worn down after the Hawaiian League, spring training, the minors for a full season, sitting on the bench in the majors, and the Arizona Fall League, maybe it’s not a bad idea to let him ease into the job.
What kills me about this move is: a) I think the Giants really believe that Bengie Molina is an above-average hitter, and b) I think the Giants really believe that the difference between the greatest game-caller/pitcher-handler in the catching ranks and the worst game-caller/pitcher-handler is worth several million dollars on a tight budget.
All things being equal, I don’t mind a player with Molina’s résumé hitting toward the bottom of the order while Posey, who would probably be an offensive improvement, hones his craft in a situation that isn’t as physically demanding while keeping his service time down. I just hate the move because I know that’s not the reason the Giants re-signed Molina. They think he’s a good offensive player.
They’re doing cartwheels in the front office because they think they’ve signed a good hitter, and the beliefs that lead to an evaluation like that are why the Giants have been at the bottom of the National League in runs scored for the past five seasons. That’s why I don’t like the move. If Bengie Molina’s name were Mortimer Stankovich, I’d probably be completely indifferent.
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On the afternoon of Bengie Molina’s signing, the Heavens wept over San Francisco and let out thunderous cries of anguish. But in time, the tempest passed, and the sun appeared once more from behind the mournful gray sky. Now a rainbow arcs over the fair city by the bay, reminding its faithful citizens that something wonderful can follow from something that seems so terrible.
(That said, fire Sabean)
by Seasick fish on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excerpted from “Tales of the Shitty.”
by TheLetter2 on Jan 19, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking parrots all over the fucking Telegraph Hill
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A Tale of Two Titties is my favorite!
by speckops on Jan 19, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Connery: I’ll take Famoush Titties for 200.
Alex Trebek: That’s famous Titles
Sean Connery: Not a fan of the ladies, eh Trebek?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Jan 19, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chief, I have to differ with your opinion on Torrealba not exceeding Molina
Just line those bad boys up at home and tell them to race to second.
Torrealba exspeeds Molina every time.
Every time there’s no chalupa waiting at second, that is.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure just one chalupa is sufficient motivation.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not surprised and I’m not that upset. Better he than any of the others in waiting.
Personally, I’d like to see Posey go to Fresno and learn third or first. I just don’t see him as a catcher for the long haul.
by Buzzword on Jan 19, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this new RALLY THREAD will undo what has already been done did.
by Every6thDay on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with this decision.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
by jhiat00 on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Your pseudo-Sabean is far too articulate and relatively platitude-free …. please try again
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Its ok....we'll get through this together.
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It amuses me to mentally take the comma out of this statement.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yarrr, it make more sense that way. Yarrrr.
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I did not know that MCC had an English(pirate) language option.
by toofruss on Jan 19, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mentally take out the comma, and the third, fourth, and fifth words.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
‘They always be taking me asshole’
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Magically delicious
Always after me lucky charms
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 20, 2010 7:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you wear the eye patch again.
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He still has a physical to pass right?
Right?
PLEASE!
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
by Tim LinCyYoung on Jan 19, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Giants Dr.: Bengie, pass that plate o’ donuts.
Bengie: …scarf…
Giants Dr. (writing): “Pass with flying colors!”
Bengie: burp
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got two words for Bengie: Camp Panda. It worked so well for Pablo…
Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Jan 19, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When I see I’ve got two words for Bengie, all I think of is the old late 90’s WWF wrestling group DX.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they brought it back?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
And if you’re not down with that I’ve got two words for ya:
Same here
by dprodigy19 on Jan 19, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lolwut
who’s in it?? It can’t be the same people, right?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HHH and HBK
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HBK IS STILL WRESTLING
LOLWUT?! Isnt he like 55 now?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s 44 and still one of the best wrestlers out there.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always liked him
I just thought he was done already. 44 isn’t that old I guess, I thought he was older
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude still looks good!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
if THATS what youre in to. (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They don’t call him the Heartbreak Kid for nothing.
*swoon *
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But guys
according to MLB Network…we’re contenders next year!
dumbasses
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey I really thought you had a shot
by sanfrankid on Jan 19, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I still believe our offense has improved over last year. Our pitching, if it puts up near what it did last year, can mean yes we could contend again. We weren’t that far off last year.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
enh
We also got pretty lucky in a number of ways last year.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You can say that about all the teams though, really.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no
Not all teams outperform their pythagorean. Not all teams score more runs than their OBP/SLG/wOBA say they should. Not all teams have ERAs significantly better than their FIP (of course, that last one probably has as much to do with defense as luck – but with Pablo, Renteria, and Huff in the infield, I’m not expecting great things from our defense in 2010).
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies were going at a pretty ridiculous stretch in the 2nd half
The Dodgers pitching somehow made it through the whole year
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You might want to take another look at the Dodgers pitching from last year. They were very good.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers pitching is good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the "team whom i shall not mention" had great pitching
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 19, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just thought they’d crumble all year
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And Babs wasn’t that good during the 2nd half of the season.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That seems fairly out of character for him – I would expect him to be good going forward.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers pitching performs well.
But they clearly are evil.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They perform well because Tommy Lasorda sold his soul
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And chavez ravine is the opening to hell
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 19, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the unlucky ones.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
our offense did improve but what I was irritated about was that they were all saying that Bengie was like the missing link. Suddenly by signing him we became contenders. I don’t take them seriously but it still is just somewhat irritating. I do think though we have a shot.
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey I really thought you had a shot
by sanfrankid on Jan 19, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me want to hate everything.
by TheLetter2 on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we're never going to win a world series
sigh
by superk1ng on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe in poker.
(tries to keep a straight face)
(fails)
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it happens, it won’t be during the Lincecum era.
by Every6thDay on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that is so sad, every year lincecum isn’t pitching in the post season is a complete waste of talent
01.19.2010
r.i.p. buster posey I really thought you had a shot
by sanfrankid on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“What’s wrong with your life that you need drugs to make it bearable?”
We all have our reasons.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Over/under on Molina pouting episodes in 2010?
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OVER!!!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Over
Especially post all-star break.
by cubesonice on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
under
he’s taking it in the nuts on this one, plus he needs to impress for next year. Bengie knows the score on this one, and he’ll be wearing his happy face.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
_WAY_ over
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jan 20, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
About 10 minutes after Posey gets called up.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
first one will be on opening day when he doesn’t see his name in the #4 spot.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 19, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With a roster of players who couldn’t compete, this team will compete.
by Every6thDay on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s a bunch of small bad moves that add up to one craptacular offseason.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s a bunch of small bad moves that add up to one craptacular offseason.
that was a beautiful quote.
What's the matter with Sabean?!?!? He's a bum!
by Fulcher on Jan 19, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The blockquote fails have so many interesting variations.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This one has sort of an M.C. Escher feel to it.
by younghutch on Jan 20, 2010 5:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing that I didn’t fit into this post: I really, really, really don’t think Molina will catch more than 100 games this year. He’s too out of shape. I’ve been expecting him to break down for a while, but it has to happen at some point.
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I dunno. Bochy is such a dumbass that he lets injured and worn out players stay in the lineup day after day, praising them for wanting to get out there and play, no matter what the effect is on the team.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GAMERS!
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You rang?
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 19, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is because Bengie IS A FREIGHT TRAIN
by PiKAgiant on Jan 19, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was a small hill, actually.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
by esseffgeez on Jan 19, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You hate to root for an injury but maybe he’ll pull a hamstring eating a ham sandwich…
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem rooting for injuries
So long as they are not life-ending. Bengie Molina will make over 4 million dollars next year.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That came off harsh
I meant to say I have no problem rooting for injuries that only impact baseball and not the ability to live a happy healthy life.
I, for instance, will be rooting for Roy Halladay to suffer a shoulder strain so that I can drink the delicious tears of phillie fans.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What if baseball is the only ray of sunshine in Roy Halladay’s miserable life?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
60 million dollars
can buy a lot of therapy
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you are forgetting what happy philly phans this site turns into around oktober.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Jan 20, 2010 3:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The beauty of this is that people are talking about Posey’s lack of conditioning as a reason he shouldn’t be playing in the majors.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh god I hope so.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
by kvdp12 on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he'll be fine once Buster gets called up
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Once this happens then we find another journeyman catcher to back up Whiteside. I don’t see Posey in SF until September.
by cubesonice on Jan 19, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still hate this move.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hate it more.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really hate it that much.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I do.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, whatever.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah. leave him alone. He usually self-corrects.
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just go with the zeitgeist, it’s much more fun
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE THIS MOVE AND ITS ASS FACE
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster wants to know who he has to sleep with.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
NOT Sabean’s wife or dog. Frandsen learned that the hard way.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just start sleeping with everyone until you breakout. It worked for Madonna!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And Zito, come to think of it.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, it world for everyone but me.
by TheLetter2 on Jan 21, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That might have been better stated, “Of course, it would for everyone but me.”
by TheLetter2 on Jan 21, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His world not your world.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 23, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But if Posey won't be our starter, I no longer understand letting Sadowski go.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/9/24/1052840/bruce-bochy-and-buster-posey-part#21722651
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Look on the bright side: we can at least trade his expiring contract for a decent player at the trade deadline, right?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHY IS BENGIE?!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we are all Bengie!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
excuse me, I own an elliptical /scarfs down 2nd bowl of ice cream
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it ‘down the road’ or ‘across the street?’ I can never remember.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
by jhiat00 on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And you just know Bengie-goo is gonna have a shit attitude all year ‘cuz he wasn’t able to get a sniff of a multi-year deal after being such a gaping asshole about the whole affair last year.
This has the smell of “bork” all over it.
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bengie-goo?
If we do see the spoogeball this year, at least I’ll know why.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, yes. Hearkening back to the ol’ spoogeball era.
by TheLetter2 on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/ducks
I still think Sabean was handcuffed by a number of guys who didn’t want to sign with the Giants. I haven’t really heard of better options for this offseason, giving what we possibly know more about now with dudes not wanting to play for us.
Begin the rage towards me in 3…2…1…
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better option:
UNLEASH POSEY
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well fold up the franchise, then. If we can’t attract top talent, what’s the point? We’re certainly not going to waste time trying to develop in-house options through the draft and international scouting like every other organization does.
by Every6thDay on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Except Posey will be in AAA developing. We still have a top 5 farm system, just a lot of our guys are a few years away. At the very least, Sabean signed a bunch of guys to 1 and 2 year contracts.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure Posey isn’t on the MLB roster to start the year?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’d better not be – wherever he is, he needs to be playing regularly.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The farm system is meaningless unless the big club shows it knows what to do with the players. And it apparently doesn’t.
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by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this better than what I said.
by Every6thDay on Jan 19, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because of Lewis? Ishikawa? Who is being blocked right now? maybe Posey?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis
Bowker
Nate
Posey
Frandsen
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowker and Nate will at least fight over RF.
you can maybe argue that Lewis’ development has been hampered. maybe, but what about how no other team wants him or Frandsen?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet that if Lewis gets DFA’d, some team ends up wanting him pretty quickly.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Teams might add him for depth, but you don’t see anyone trading for Lewis to plug straight into their lineups
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or even picking him up from waivers and plugging him straight into starting lineups.
If guys like Neal or Crawford or even Posey really start getting dicked aroudn with, then there might be a lot more problems
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
also, not many teams have as bad an offense as the giants.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I didn’t say “if Lewis gets put on the trading block, some team will try to give something up to get him.”
If Lewis is free, he’ll be useful to somebody, and their straw will reach all the way across the room and they will drink him up.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will bet you a tenner right now that Lewis is starting for someone by the All-Star Break.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who says they don’t want them? I’m willing to bet Sabean doesn’t try to shop Frandsen around just to spite him by leaving him in Fresno.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There was the story about Lewis and Frandsen for Kouzmanoff…and I believe it was around that time that it was said there was no interest in those 2 players
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The point about Lewis and Frandsen isn’t that they’re great players. It’s that they are cheap and about as good as the expensive old dudes we signed to play ahead of them. So sabes spent a bunch of cash for marginal upgrades (and possible downgrades) instead of improving the team.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where should that money have gone instead to make improvements?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Holliday
Mike Cameron
Nick Johnson
Trade for Milton Bradley
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So I noticed that CHONE is predicting a pretty big decline for Cameron this year. WAR of 1.4 down from 4.3 last year. I assume because he’s so old.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday locks you up for years. The question is do you build a lineup around him (for years) like we did with Bonds around him? I’d say no. Guess you think so.
Cameron is old and isn’t that good v RHP. But, is better than Rowand. How much better? Worth the ??
Johnson wanted to play in NY.
Bradley is a problem-child. A big risk. Not sure I’d want to go there. You have 25 guys who have to get along.s They aren’t just stats and projections in there.
by joethejet on Jan 20, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly
Aaron Rowand is the guy you build a lineup around…
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Jan 20, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t change the subject! (But, you have a point)
by joethejet on Jan 20, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many options does Frandsen have left?
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by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
0
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, thanks. I was too lazy to look at Natto’s post from a while back.
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by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowker and Nate will fight over RF until the Giants sign Byrnes or Dye.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could start by not paying actual money to guys (Huff, Molina) who are not better than the free guys you already have on the roster (Ishikawa, Posey). First, do no harm. You don’t actually have to do something just to do something. If Ladouche and Johnson won’t sign, well, maybe wait out Johnny Damon or just sit tight, spend the extra money on draft picks.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or, I dunno, put that money in the bank and invest it when you have better options.
There’s no rule that you have to spend the same amount every year. Spend less when conditions are not favorable, spend more when they are.
It’s like they never took a basic personal finance class or something. You don’t always have to pay market when the market is crazy.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s my take, exactly
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants are smart cookies.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
chasm, hts?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s my understanding that none of the Smart Cookies actually know how to manage their personal finances.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like someone who’s afeared of intellectuals
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"I can still get what I deserve"
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They sound hot though.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and angry
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you’d be sitting here whining that they did nothing.
by joethejet on Jan 20, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GRANT UR 5
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh admit it
If his name was Mortimer Stankovich you would be ecstatic, just for the cheap joke potential. Every front page post for the next year would be packed with “Stank-eye” or “Mort d’Arthur”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
or, y’know, accidentally posted before you even finished.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not an opthamologist
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
F*** WORK LET'S BENGIE
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Meh
/ heads back out to the pool, where it’s 75 degrees and sunny
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Enjoy Kauai, this shit will be here when you get back.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit that's fuck.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 19, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHO DOES NUMBER TWO WORK FOR?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying Stankovich is a classy guy.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All of my faith in this franchise rests in Dick Tidrow and John Barr.
I have faith that they will continue to draft well. I believe that they will continue to keep our minor league teams loaded with talented players. Eventually I trust these players will advance enough to contribute in SF. This was going to be a process, and so far these 1- year deals haven’t hamstrung our team. I am hoping that some of our younger batters can start producing in the upper minors this year.
by cubesonice on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What’s frustrating is that this Molina signing basically confirms our suspicions though— those young guys we’re placing our hopes in will never just get a fair shot to see what they can do, they’re going to have to force the big league club’s hand.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate this signing as much as anyone, but in a winter where FA’s gave us the finger and signed with other teams for less money, I give some props to Bengie for telling the big money Mets to fuck off and signing for less with the team and city he wanted to be with.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
by stealth snail on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO STAY IN THE BAY AREA
we should be going after her!
by monta ellis on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
STANKOVICHONIA
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What if I’m allergic?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YES
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With this move, I wish I could trust that Posey will start the season in AAA. But something tells me, he’ll be the MLB backup catcher on opening day.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s a given
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“We feel like Buster has proven all he has needed to in the minors. However, DINGERZ RBIZ and such”.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DINGERZ GLAND
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GOD DAMNED ERRANT COMMAS GET THE FUCK OUT ALREADY
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
steve decker as his mentor would be the best thing for him to happen…especially since we are going to fire the Boch after he fails to lead the best picthing staff in the majors to the playoffs
by cazzuno on Jan 19, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I shouldn’t, but I still think they’re not quite that stupid. Although I never believed they’d call him up in September to not play him, so I may still be in some level of denial about Sabean’s stupidity, in spite of everything.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my rant
Is this signing all too bad? Not really. At the end of the day, Molina is a terrible player, but he does hit some homers and provide some power. That doesn’t change the fact that he sucks and is one of the worst players in the bigs, but Sabes has done worse (/rationality)
But in this he’s showing every weakness he has. He has no basic knowledge in statistics, he refuses to give young guys a chance, and he judges too quickly. Stats: we know Bengie’s OBP. He’s benching our best young prospect and the best catching prospect in the minors. And while he might have other reasons, it seems his reasoning for “POSEYZ NOT READY” is 17 at bats. Which in its self is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
So yeah, this signing sucks. And if there was any doubt from anyone that Sabean was a terrible GM, then ths ends it. Now, as for Neukom and the GINATZ Brass seeing it…
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Among the many false assumptions,
is the notion that Bengie is blocking Posey this year. Not quite. Buster can seamlessly move from Fresno to backup to starter, etc. without the team sacrificing a legit frontline catcher.
And another point that seems to be forgotten here: While Buster has hit wherever he has played, it seems to take him a little while to get in the groove. I have no problem starting him this year in the minors and easing him into the MLB job.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What legit frontiline catcher are you talking about?
Anyway, Bengie is blocking Buster from a starting role. And it’s a pretty much assumed that he’s a starter. And backing him up will harm his development (imo). And if it takes him awhile, it takes him awhile. Let him take the job and let him keep it
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what's wrong with ...
posey starting in fresno for the few months, then coming to back up bengie, then taking over at the end of the year??? it could happen – if he signed molina for more than 1 year i would be at 3rd & king with a pitchfork – but one year is reasonable. although i would have liked torrealba
by SFGigantes on Jan 19, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Having him back up is useless
he’ll play once a week. It’s better for him in AAA then to back up. Buster>Molina. This team probably isn’t going anywhere anyway; let him settle into his role. I don’t have a pitchfork out; it could be far worse (like you said). I just don’t like the backing up idea at all
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't matter
if he doesn’t hit well in the first 50 ABs he’ll be on the last train to Connecticut anyway.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 19, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
legit frontline catcher … You’re right, that’s a bad choice of phrase. I meant a real, MLB starter, unlike Whiteside and/or any of the other FA catchers except Yorvit and maybe Brajas.
The point is, we don’t have to suffer through a 2nd stringer as a starter or as the only alternative to Buster being ready.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was a bad choice of phrasing
I guess it’s nice having somebody besides Whiteside. But I think Buster is ready, and I’d take a fring starter/good backup at a lower price rather then Bengie
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fringe starter
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s ready, but it’s a two way street: are they ready for him? I want him to start, but I don’t want him to start simply because the alternative is Whiteside.
Honestly, I think Sabean was just putting the squeeze on the catcher market by claiming that he’s prepared to go with Buster on opening day. Many of us fell for it, and got it in our heads that he’s ready.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you. It’s a big assumption that Posey is ready. There’s a big jump between AAA and MLB.
I won’t know if I like this move until I see how long they stick with Molina once it becomes obvious Posey is ready.
If Bochy knew what to do with young (position) players i wouldn’t worry at all, but he’s shown that he has no idea what to do with them.
by joethejet on Jan 20, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only way Buster sees playing time in MLB is if Molina gets hurt or plays so badly that even Bochy can’t trot him out there.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Jan 19, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I get why you say that, but I’m pretty sure the mandate from on high is for Buster to be the starter by, at the latest, the end of the season.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what makes you say that?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Jan 19, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
one reason, among many
is why they insist on signing a catcher this year to a 1 year contract.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eli better have his shin guards close by!
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by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Time will only tell when the season comes, but I have a hunch that if/when Gerald is brought up later in the year (assuming he is in AAA), there won’t be a problem with getting ABs regardless if the Giants are in contention or not. Maybe I am forgetting that Bochy will still be managing, but I still feel this year will be different from last.
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by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And as for the people saying that Posey isn't ready
give me a reason other then “he didn’t show me something”
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I KNOW RIGHT
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll play devil's advocate
He’s 22.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and...?
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's younger than most MLB catchers start, I guess
Younger than most MLB players start, period.
I’m not going to get too in depth on this one.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He ripped it up in AAA
there’s nothing left for him to prove elsewhere. Let him acclimate to the job and become the stud he’s going to be
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He ripped it up in AAA
for ONE season. Prove he can do it again.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He ripped it up in Low A, High A, AAA
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually he skipped Augusta
He just tore it up in High A and AAA
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by Gobroks on Jan 19, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
I think if you do it when you’re 21, you’ll do it again. Point is, he hasn’t experienced failure yet. Call him up. IMO, he has shown he’s ready for the big league level
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, just playing devils advocate
But if some player X tears shit up for one season, it’s generally not considered a guarantee that he’ll repeat. I have faith that buster will turn in more good numbers in the minors, but who knows.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's no guarantee
but as long as the player is young, it’s a solid bet. But when that player is over 35 and fat, then you can’t expect them improve…
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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not like Bengie set the world on fire either.
by speckops on Jan 19, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WELL HE SUCKED IN ALL OF HIS MAJOR LEAGUE AT BATZ SO SIGN MOLEENA FOR 6 YRS!
by goGSW24 on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically, no one that young and with that little pro experience has ever had a productive career.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
um, what?
Dave Winfield debuted in the majors at age 22 without ever playing in the minors…just to name one.
Do you mean catchers?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You fell in
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
JD has been the McCoven’s token non-dumbass anti-starting Buster guy.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind delaying Buster’s clock but I don’t like the argument that JD is making. The only guy that really compares to Buster is Wieters and Wieters did really well last year.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wieters did get off to a slow start, though. And he does have a few more games played in the minors than Buster.
I’m totally fine with Buster being kept down to delay his arb clock until June or so, but I’ll be pissed if he doesn’t get the bulk of the playing time after the All Star Break.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’ll be pissed.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jan 19, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My plan is
To be pissed now, so when it happens I won’t get all pissy.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The nice thing is that this works in American and British.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually about to go get a beer
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Go ahead.
That just advances your pissed clock.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was okay with him starting AAA, I think most of us were.
This move kinda says that he’s going to spend the entire year in the minors though. I’m pretty sure that nobody likes that.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Jan 19, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do think expecting Bengie to stay healthy all season is probably a stretch.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the question is, will he lose playing time or just ability?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Jan 19, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he won’t lose any playing time unless he’s seriously physically unable to play
…and even then, I think they’d probably go with Eli Whiteside as a starting catcher for a few months.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, remember when Bengie was hurt
And then they called up Posey, and suddenly, magically, he was able to play the next day?
Wheee.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LIGHT A FIRE UNDER BENGIE!!
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately it just made him play. It didn’t actually make him play, y’know, well.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s too slow to run away!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 20, 2010 1:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think expecting Bengie’s pants will kind of stretch.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Skinny pants!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 20, 2010 1:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, catchers – I was unclear.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case
Johnny Bench was in the Majors at age 20, and a starter at 21. He had more at-bats than Posey in the minors, but only by about 100.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wait, never mind
I was missing one of his minor league seasons – he did have significantly more ABs than Posey.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
265 games though… also had been basically training to be a catcher from a very young age, as opposed to being converted in college. Also, greatest MLB catcher ever.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Bench was a starter at 20 — unless he somehow got 607 PAs without starting.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Wieters was better than Bengie Molina in 2009. He turned 23 in May. Posey turns 23 this coming March. Johnny Bench was 20 his rookie year. I think you might want to try again.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Weiters, once he has had a career, will be the first that young and with that little professional experience. I believe he also spent his entire college career catching.
Johnny Bench, despite his youth, had 265 games in the minors and had spent his whole life aiming to be a catcher (on his Dad’s advice).
Buster Posey was a shortstop converted to catcher in college and has 125 games in the minors (just 35 above A-ball)… another half a year playing every day in AAA under Steve Decker would still put him on a very fast track to a starting job in the bigs.
Rushing him to the majors to fill the offensive black hole that is the Giants batting order would be sub-optimal (from a player development standpoint) and having him on the ML club and not playing would be an utter disaster. Giving him 200 or so games in the minors is a reasonable proposition, and in my admittedly unprofessional opinion, the correct thing to do.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, JD. Bench was a man at 20; Posey is a skinny kid still.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh come the fuck on
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i know, anything other than Posey-worship is sacrilege here
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
but that argument was fucking bullshit. “he’s a skinny kid”. Give me a break with that. That is weaksauce.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever, bro. Catching takes a lot of strength and endurance at the major league level, whatever kind of sauce that is.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
yeah, I’ll trust your opinion of what he looked like when you were watching from home. Even if you were at the games where he was playing, you still have no way of knowing how big he is. “He doesn’t look big enough to me” is a stupid argument, I’m sorry.
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 20, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree that Posey staying in the minors until July or so isn’t the worst thing (though I have to wonder if he’d actually have a chance to play in the majors after that even if he tears up AAA).
That said, he is far from a skinny little kid. He’s listed at 6’1", 205 and he doesn’t really look skinny to me.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he looked like 180 to me. Benito was a skinny kid, though, when he came up. He did ok.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Manly?
Hmmm well this is 1969:
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
by baetown415 on Jan 19, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BUT HE WAS FROM MY CHILDHOOD SO OBVIOUSLY HE'S BETTER THAN SOMEONE PLAYING NOW!!!11!1
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 20, 2010 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good point
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jan 20, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was a skinny kid!!!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Jan 20, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like someone about to have Buster Posey take his lunch money.
by taliesin on Jan 20, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Listed 6-1, 208 in 1969… virtually the same as Buster. Probably just nostalgia (and the fact that in the 50’s and 60’s fistfights were more socially acceptable than the 80’s and 90’s) but I’d still bet on Johnny.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 20, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to say
see, GGF? THIS is why you don’t trust your eyes. Because they’re almost always wrong, especially when dealing with nostalgic visions of things from your past.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 20, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Forward this to wilriv while you’re at it.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Jan 20, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting that Lucy Liu isn’t as attractive as she was 10 years ago?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jan 20, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And he’s easy on the eyes.
I’m not doing this right, am I?
by TheLetter2 on Jan 19, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster turns 23 during spring training.
Pablo Sandoval turned 23 in the second half of 2009.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval had 452 games over 5 seasons of pro experience.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
That’s not what he said, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TNWHS
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Jan 19, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know, but my point is they are not equivalent even at a similar age since Pablo started his pro ball tenure so much younger.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you arguing that college ball just doesn’t count at all? I generally assume that playing for a top D-I school is essentially equivalent to low A ball, even with the metal bats.
by taliesin on Jan 20, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s nothing to disregard certainly, but I wouldn’t say that it’s equivalent – fewer games, different atmosphere. Even short season A-ball teams play more games in a season, slightly. The SAL season is much longer.
I would also contend that having it be a job is a major difference, mentally.
I know I open myself to mockery, but I do believe that getting used to working with pitchers and calling games as a pro is something catchers need experience doing. I’m willing to concede that at the ML level, basically all catchers can call a game reasonably competently, but virtually all of them also have 200+ games of pro experience.
It may be that at a program like FSU the difference is smaller, but I do think there is a difference.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 20, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there’s also college summer leagues which I’m sure you’re aware of. College ball + summer league is not the same as the low minors, but you can’t just completely disregard the college experience.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 21, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In the end
this signing doesn’t really change the playoff standing, positively or negatively. Even if Buster started, this isn’t a playoff club.
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Which is the opposite of the argument for paying a veteran $4.5M to start in his stead.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Bengie was a "Fan Favorite"
by cubesonice on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
For idiotic fans?
Definitely
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh totally
The KNBR/sfgate crowd thinks Bengie is good. DINGERZ
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We’re not really “fans”, honestly a few regulars here hate the Giants.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like xanthan, for example.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 19, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 20, 2010 6:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t hate the Giants…but I sure dislike the brass
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NO
NO
NO GOD PLEASE NO
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 19, 2010 4:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this was my actual reaction
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My computer is being fixed, so I was messing around downstairs, playing DS, listening to music. Stop to check my e-mail, check McCovey Chronicles (on my phone) – see the Bengie Molina: Back on the Giants post, think it’s a joke… scroll down…
NOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NO!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a joke!
Surprise! Okay everyone, we can stop pretending now. I thought we pulled this whole thing off rather convincingly. We even got Keith Law, MLBTR and KNBR in on it!
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Computer issues again? What now?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uncooperative xanthan is uncooperative.
by goGSW24 on Jan 19, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two weeks after we made the beachball go away, the computer froze and didn’t come back after a minute. So, I turned it off and… it never turned back on again.
So Apple has it at the moment and hopefully everything will be fixed when I get it back in a day or two.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty pissed, to be honest. If it has any problems at all after this for at least a year, I’m going to go ballistic.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
that really sucks.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Warranty? They had mine for about a week one time, and it didn’t cost me a dime.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully my dad sprung for AppleCare for me when I got it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SCOAR
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I had that reaction. Mine was just stunned, gap-mouthed silence.
by taliesin on Jan 19, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather watch Posey struggle in April and half of May then hit .300 the rest of the way than Molina…do anything.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
by Norm Median on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you mean
like bat cleanup 140 times? FLGAHREAGEAREAGSAGAWE$RGAERGWEAS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 19, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yup
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I HEARD HE CAN PLAY SHORTSTOP
maybe thats why we signed him
by monta ellis on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Molina couldn’t play shortstop on a 5 year old Little League team.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
by Ramah71 on Jan 19, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Those are some short fingers
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Jan 19, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PENIS HANDS
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, penis fingers….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same with your sig
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
by Ramah71 on Jan 19, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK ROSTERS LETS DRINK
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its like he is mocking us
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the first one looks like he’s taking it in the can
…and loving it!
by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahhahaha i never noticed!
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardcore double-fisted wine drinker
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Jan 19, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he looks the guy from the windows 7 commercial. the one with all the sony vaio’s
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Jan 19, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck this team
I’m taking a break for a few days after this bullshit.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Boycott the TV broadcasts for the next week! I’m in!
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
it’s easy to say it in the offseason. And look, I’m back on after merely a few hours. God i hate this team so much, and I hate that I’m basically enslaved to following them even more.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can use his pants to turn AT&T into a dome.
"What makes you think you're Jesus Christ?"
"Well, when I pray I seem to be talking to myself"
by Jigglefish on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh good, Harold Reynolds like this move for the Giants on the MLB Network.
I’ll sleep better now.
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
now only if
anybody liked Harold Reynolds
by monta ellis on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
shush your mouth! he is a great man
Baltimore: A horseshit city
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Harold Ramis.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is that the one who runs around with Kumar?
Baltimore: A horseshit city
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Jan 19, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SS Molina
3B Sanchez
LF DeRosa
1B Sandoval
RF Huff
SS Molina
CF Rowand
C Posey
WE GOT THIS FIGUREd OUT!!!
by monta ellis on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
woops i wish Molina could hit twice!!
by monta ellis on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
VERSATILITY!!!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 19, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KNBR ALREADY HAS A "BENGIE'S BACK" AD
I want to throw sharp objects at everything and everybody I see.
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My Bengie’s back and we’re gonna be in trouble. Hey-naa, hey-naa, my Bengie’s back?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TWHS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’m going to move exclusively away from TWSS and focus on pointing out things that other people said.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 19, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like putting them in your sig.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d imagine Bengie’s back is pretty sponge-like.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It lives in a pineapple under the sea.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I should have said spongey?
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I bet he has an enormous tattoo of a cheeseburger.
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the DeRosa blurb was bad
but this one is unpossible.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 19, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize what I am feeling.
I am numb.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Technically that’s the absence of feeling.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is you all is or is you all aint...
the same people who’ have been saying for the past few years that he’d be fine if he wasn’t the cleanup hitter? he’s surely no savior… but the melodrama people… OBP Awful. Outs made Awful. Clutch numbers down from solid 08. 20 home runs though. Knows the staff. One year. Not cheap, but not silly numbers. And Buster is still there should the need arise. I’m not touting the move as big. I just don’t all the gg bridge jumpers out there.
by raldoo on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s the confusion of motion with progress by the Giants’ brass.
Again.
by younghutch on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they played this one just right, though. Just this one.
I, with them, laughed at a multiyear deal for him. This is the only way I’d want to see him again. Seems to me like they won this particular pissing contest. I’m still very afraid of Renteria, Alfonzo, Perez, multiple etc… old man post roid era results.
by raldoo on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How does Bengie Molina make the team better?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By quitting it?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
zing!
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
by Ramah71 on Jan 19, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is you is, or is you ain't my constituancy?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the color guard is colored!
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been saying he’d be fine if he wasn’t so terrible at hitting.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always said this place would be great if it weren’t for all the customers.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always said being a doctor would be terrific if it wasn’t for all these sick people.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
by cheno on Jan 19, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
…but other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, we’re the ones who’ve been saying he’s terrible.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s all of the mainstream people (KNBR, mlbtraderumors commentors, etc) who have been saying he’s fine except for being miscast as a cleanup hitter.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AND NOW WE HAVE AUBREY HUFF FOR THAT!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely played.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Bengie’s clutch numbers aren’t significantly different from his overall numbers.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
if only there were some way to figure out of those home runs are worth all the negative value he brings with his number of outs made….
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At the risk of falling into the chasm
you mean like wOBA?
by speckops on Jan 19, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
wOBA, Batting Runs, Runs Created.
If raidoo wants to put 20 HRs as a positive vs the rest of the horrible, the least we can do is use the best values we have to see if they are a net positive.
Pete Palmer published Linear Weights in The Hidden Game of Baseball in 1984, which was actually 17 years after he first tried to get it published. Bill James introduced Runs Created in 1979.
This is really less about raidoo not knowing this, honestly. It’s more that Sabean, et al, who are professional baseball men, don’t have any idea that such a thing exists, when they have been around for so long, and successfully implemented.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie Molina ate my damn eggroll.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, I’m actually sorry to hear that.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:(
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he also drank your milkshake
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He drank it up. :(
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my straw reaches ACROSSSSS the across the room
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not okay
I think what bothers me the most is that it seems like we position ourselves as underdogs, yet there’s no reason for it. San Francisco is hardly a small market, yet we don’t make big signings, and we don’t make bold trades that really work out. We seem to settle for the scraps, which is ridiculous.
We’re really supposed to look at a lineup with the 2010 versions of Mark DeRosa and Aubrey Huff hitting in the fourth and fifth spots and think that’s okay? Really? The Dodgers have Kemp, Ethier, and Manny. The Cardinals have Holliday and Pujols. The Phillies have Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Werth, and Ibanez. We’re supposed to be happy because our lineup looks better than that of the Padres?
We’re competing in the same damn league as these other teams! Yes, we have Lincecum and Cain, but the Rockies have Jimenez and de la Rosa, the Dodgers have Billingsley and Kershaw, and the D-Backs have Webb and Haren.
There is no magical ingredient that makes our lack of hitting somehow acceptable when it wouldn’t be acceptable to any other team in baseball just because our guys have a 3 in front of their age!
by GiantJay on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
despite my slight nod towards positivism above
you’re totally right. I sure was hoping we’d be further along in the rebuilding-after-bonds by now. If it weren’t for Pablo we’d be the pits of the pits.
by raldoo on Jan 19, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the hell with mediocrity as acceptable.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God, vic, why the evil sigil that is evil?
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot argue with success.
I know, I know, “But Vic – they BOUGHT it!”
Gee, until players offer their services pro bono i suppose that’s the way the game is played.
And apparently New York plays to win – not simply to profit.
Or maybe…just maybe… they see some sort of connection between the two.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just after I heard this news
I was looking out over the bay and I saw a lightning bolt strike down right near AT&T Park. I guess even Zeus hates the Bengie Molina signing.
by kenarneson on Jan 19, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Actually, that was Thor. He was wielding his Mjolnir.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ORTMEIER!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HERITAGE NIGHT!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL METS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jan 19, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
joke’s on us, pal
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not about Posey
I don’t see this being about Posey. He was going to be eased in, no matter. This is about who that other catcher would be, and although Molina is a pretty fair hitter for a catcher, he’s also old for a catcher, and nearly a cripple on the basepaths.
So, what the hell, couldn’t they at least have made a better sideways move, like Torrealba?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Jan 19, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Repeating from tail of the old thread
Since my policy is to save the agony for actual nauseating on the field developments that count in the standings, I’ve decided to assume for now that Benjie will bat 7th, the Giants will successfully put off Posey’s Super 2 status a year, Posey will benefit immensely from catching for Steve Decker, and Benjie will gracefully hand over the starting job to Buster after the All-Star break… if you are saying anything else, la-la-la-la-I-can’t-hear-you.
by NearestNorwich on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Repeating from tail of the old thread
Thank you. There is just too much whining going on. Bengie should never have been in the 4th spot and, yes, he is slower than my dead aunt Clarissa. Maybe even bat him 8th although RentaWreck probably fits better (actually RentaWreck fits better on the bench — in Kansas City — but I digress). Look, Bengie knows the staff, is a pretty good clutch hitter with a little pop. He will give way to Buster as soon as mid-season. I don’t think this is a terrible move. The difference between Bengie and Russell Martin or Mauer, okay. But given who’s left on the market, it’s not worth hemorrhaging about.
Don't believe everything you think.
by wcovington on Jan 19, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I really believed the Giants would let Buster take over for Bengie at midseason, I would not be so disappointed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let us pray
Don't believe everything you think.
by wcovington on Jan 19, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he will have done some dues paying – riding the bench, getting sent back down to work on his game, getting to 200 pro games caught. Bochy will look at him in a new light.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
terrible on field developments that count in the standings start with terrible off the field moves.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Waiting for E's post.
"If we had signed Guerrero or Sheffield, we would have been without Brower, Eyre, Herges, Hermanson,Tomko,Pierzynski, Feliz, Snow,Hammonds, Mohr and Tucker–obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint"--B Sabean
by seyheystretch on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
E just shot a man in rage
Just to watch him die
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When he hears the opening day lineup
He’ll hang his head and cry
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
XKCD'D!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, this signing is bad
No, this does nothing to improve our offense
No, this is not an improvement over Posey
No, Bengie makes no appreciable difference to the pitching staff
No, this baseball team is not better than last season’s team
Yes, Bengie will be placed in the cleanup spot
No, anything said by Bochy or Sabean between now and spring training will make any difference about Bengie hitting in the cleanup spot
This team is one Dye signing away from sweeping the fucking podium in the offseason craptacular-move olympics.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 4:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
/sobs
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ruh roh, raggy.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
by beat_la_25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or they could just try Velez in right.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone posted this in the other thread. It fits
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 4:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
‘and that was the worst baserunning in the history of baseball!’
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
An unfortunate but true realization
Sports are a lot more enjoyable for fairweather fans. They seem to enjoy the victories as much, but the defeats don’t bother them nearly as much. I’ll go to a Sharks game with my brother and just enjoy being there, while he’s noticing all the little things that are going wrong even if they win. If he goes to a Giants game with me, it would be the opposite.
by GiantJay on Jan 19, 2010 4:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think it makes up for it when you finally end up getting good. it’d feel real damn good to be able to say, i was there for the ups and downs and now we have a world championship. that said, i’m 18 and i’m still not sure the Giants are gonna win a ’ship in my lifetime.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
by beat_la_25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
U R 18
Try to cheer up huh?
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha i was trying this offseason. i was trying to tell myself that this was finally the year we’d transition to the young guys, and we’d be ready to make a run at a championship in the next 3 or 4 years. Now… i don’t know if i can convince myself that any of our prospects will ever get a reasonable shot, rather than getting 20 ab’s in the majors and then getting an aging veteran signed to start instead of them on a 1- or 2-year contract when they don’t adjust instantaneously. rinse and repeat, and you’ve got tommy neal and roger kieschnick turning into quad-a guys and career minor leaguers who could’ve done something if the team had ever had the balls to give them a shot.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
by beat_la_25 on Jan 19, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Depressing. Fuck the Dodgers.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
by Ramah71 on Jan 19, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry dude. i’ll work on it, and maybe come back with some optimism when we can field a team whose average age isn’t within spitting distance of social security.
also: FUCK THE DODGERS.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
by beat_la_25 on Jan 19, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least we signed Nick Johnson
Damn it.
Also, Fuck the Dodgers.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
by Ramah71 on Jan 19, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck the Rockies
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 20, 2010 1:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe...
Bengie got P90X for Christmas, and had experimental surgery to implant a chip in his brain that forces a hitter to take a disciplined approach to at-bats…
Could happen…amiright????
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Jan 19, 2010 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nope.
we don’t have surgical tools advanced enough to cut through that much blubber yet.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
by beat_la_25 on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*vrrrrroooooommmmmm
revs up chainsaw
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 20, 2010 1:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what is funny about this
If the Giants suggested any type of offseason workout regimen designed to make that fat ass lose weight and perhaps be a better baseball player, he would pout.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we can get Panda to do it, why can’t Molina? The fact that Panda is doing it just makes Bengie look bad.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Jan 19, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know that they ‘had to get’ Pablo to do it – maybe he actually is on board with the idea of having a longer, more successful career.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Bengie is not under team control for the next 5 years?
by speckops on Jan 19, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
But he should have his own self interests in doing it.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Jan 19, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t that a gun? I should really stop playing Modern Warfare 2 for a bit
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NEVER!
but its hella dumb that you can have akimbo P90.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand how people play with akimbo. I hate it. I need my red-dot sight.
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This. Definitely this.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Note to self: don’t GIS the word “akimbo” again.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Going to page 2 of the results was a mistake.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just couldn’t leave it alone, could I?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed. Bling Pro. I like to have a silencer.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i’ve always been a fan of the thermal/hbs setup. then again, i’m more of an assault rifle/sniper guy.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
by beat_la_25 on Jan 19, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much only use the M4 with Bling pro, red dot, silencer, stopping power and steady aim. PP2000 with FMJ and silencer dominates as a secondary weapon.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been rocking the SCAR with ACOG, along with the Striker w/ red dot; scavenger, stopping power and commando. I’m trying out the ACR and TAR, but not sure if I’m loving those. I’ll create other classes for the purpose of getting some of the challenges done, but if I want to go on a rampage, I’ll go back to my standard set up. I don’t know if I’ve tried the M4 – I’ll have to check that one out.
The thermal is good on the Afghan map, but I’m not a big fan of the extreme scope. I’d love to have a thermal with the ACOG scope.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ive never tried any of the other guns, I just stick with the M4. Its deadly accurate, and has a very quick fire rate which I love, but its kinda weak so i suggest you use stopping power with it.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Bling Pro, Stopping Power Pro, and Ninja Pro with an M16.
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
M16?
Noob
And Ninja? Seriously? What game type do you mostly play? S&D? because not enough people use heartbeat sensors in TD to make that useful.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I play Team Deathmatch. I go up a lot of stairs. Seriously, though, I can take or leave all of the perks in that tier. I just really, really hate the jackasses with heartbeat sensors.
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, when people just camp in building with a heartbeat sensor I get pretty pissed off, but I need my Steady Aim. With the M4 you can hipfire like a mile.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t have that power. I’ll ban you for you.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You ban Graham, i’ll ban you so fast you wont be able to type the letter B
by PiKAgiant on Jan 19, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ban me for like an hour. Im supposed to be studying right now.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heheheh.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you folks talking Halo?
Waterskizz is Jr.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
akimbo
for shotguns only. can’t do akimbo on anything else.
F. the Lewis.
by calpolynate on Jan 19, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I should too
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t stop. I’ve tried. I’ve given myself over to it.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Jan 19, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last week at the office, I got about five minutes into the merits of the different assault rifles and then realized that, okaaaay, maybe it was time to stop playing for awhile.
by sakbaum on Jan 19, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope
That part of his contract is that he must participate in Operation Panda activities.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Remember what Kuip said during that Rockies game in Denver when they lost in extra innings??
This applies here.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 4:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Did he say
“Fuck my life”?
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This doesn't look good, folks.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
by GiantPain on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
k & k
serious question:
i wonder what they have to say about this
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
VETERAN GRIT AND SAVVY
Oops, wrong guy. Sabean is who I meant
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you’d assume so but its not like they’re idiots. im sure they have to somewhat agree with all of us who think this signing does nothing to help the offense.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, but here's Jon Miller's reaction to the announcement
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
yes!
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jan 19, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I lol’d
I ALREADY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK!!!
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Jan 19, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s all broken up about it.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kruk likes it.
Or at least he says he does.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But, But
DINGERZ
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
To Quote the Killers
Keep Him (Buster) tied up to a dream
Only she (Sabes & Bork) can set him free
Then He (Buster) says to me
Kill me now
Kill me now
Kill me now
Kill me now
Kill me now
Kill me now
Kill me now
Kill me now
…The song is called under the gun by the way
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
by Gobroks on Jan 19, 2010 4:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
FUCK THIS SHIT FUCK THIS SHIT FUCK THIS SHIT
This is the worst offseason ever. They haven’t made a single move I like.
At least it’s one year and for relatively cheap, but I JUST DID NOT WANT TO SEE HIM AS A GIANT ANYMORE. PERIOD.
Okay, now to go catch up on the 1000 post thread.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 4:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Overall synopsis
SHIT, THIS IS FUCK
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if Pablo didn't hit in 2009
We would have Tejada at 3rd and Byrnes in RF. The Giants would have an all over 30 starting lineup. Fortunately, we’ll have one guy under 30.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 4:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
God, I knew this was going to happen.
I can’t wait for him to start 130 games, half of them hitting cleanup, while he hits .240/.270/.410
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 4:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
75!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dude, he's not hitting cleanup anymore
We have Aubrey Huff, A LEGIT CLEANUP HITTER EVEN IN AN OFF YEAR, now.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
momma says he’s bonafide
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a suitor.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster Posey is the Goddamn paterfamilias
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the only thing Buster Posey ever did for them girls was get hit by that train!
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Jan 19, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
.270 OBP?? You sure are optimistic.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I cant stress that enough.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for expressing everything I ever meant to say
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I finally got some good news today. I get to go skiing with " a couple" friends next weekend!
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So you’re off of probation from the ’rents?
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could see you leaving the house and never looking back when you turn 18.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Until the bills start piling up… then you start to look over your shoulder.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There will be no bills. I will be nomadic, sleeping in the houses of beautiful women.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But will they even that know you’ve snuck in?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll sneak in blind and deaf people’s homes.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful blind and deaf people.
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
water Helen, waaater!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Jan 19, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT
If good hitters won’t sign with us because of the park, then in theory pitchers should all want to sign with us because of the park. So if we have to overpay for hitters, we should be able to underpay for pitchers. So if Sabean believes his own bullshit, seems like the thing to do is trade our pitching for hitting and then sign pitching for cheap.
Not that I want Sabean to do that, necessarily. But maybe he should.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Jan 19, 2010 5:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, guess what?
This is a stupid move.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But what does Groud have to say?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some questions for everyone who is down about the 2010 Giants
Would you rather the Giants have a bad year and you be right about this offseason?
or
Would you rather the Giants have a good year and you be wrong about this offseason?
I’ve asked this in other threads before, but am I the only one who is still positive about this team?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm positive.
But Bengie Molina was a bad signing that happened for all the wrong reasons.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Jan 19, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
B easily. No one will remember what I said. You are a terrible fan if your answer isnt B
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, still those comments have come up of “I WANT THIS TEAM TO LOSE 90 GAMES” and I really don’t understand it. It’s January.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are those comments?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll find one… hold on
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, that was it.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say that I wanted this team to lose 90 games. I said that I think this team will lose 90.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jan 19, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You really think this team has gotten that much worse than last year to become a 90 loss team?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last year the team outperformed it’s pythagorean record by about 4 wins. True talent was an 84 win team, not 88. I don’t think the pitching will be quite as good because our 5th starters last year were actually quite good and Cain was better than his peripherals. So there’s a couple wins. The bull-pen is also likely to regress. Plus, do you really expect that all of these old hitters (Huff, Molina, DeRosa, Rowand, Sanchez) will maintain their performances? I don’t. I don’t think the current line-up is a 90-loss team, but they do have major fall-off-a-cliff potential if any key players get injured.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jan 19, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huff was horrible last year. He could maintain his performance.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or he could get worse. I did include “all”.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Jan 19, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I kinda understand the reasoning behind that. They want to lose 90 games so Sabean will be fired, and the FO will be cleansed. Its the same reasoning behind the Holocaust.
GrahamCrakalaka
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t support that line of thinking, but I also really, really wouldn’t mind getting rid of Sabean
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants win 90 and make the playoffs, Molina gets re-signed for 2 more years. Buster Posey is in Fresno, again. And the Giants go with 30 + players for 2011.
"meh"
by SFGuy on Jan 19, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They also would be continuing to make improvements as a team if they made the playoffs.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless they were simply damned lucky.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 19, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/seriously concerned about the California educational system
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
by ResDog on Jan 19, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so that makes… umm… im at a loss
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 19, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WE ARE ALL HITLER
JUST A CITY BOY
by shanghaijim on Jan 19, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say that you could argue A was a preferable result...
…because B would be a fluke and reinforce Sabean’s stupid behavior. But it’s pretty clear Sabean doesn’t learn from his mistakes, so that’s out the window.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course I’d rather the Giants have a good year (though I’d imagine that if they do, it will be in spite of the moves made this offseason rather than because of them.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather the Giants have a good year and you be wrong about this offseason?
This is always, always, always preferable.
by Grant on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but some people (not targeted at anyone specific) seem to have such pride in bashing the Giants, that it definitely seems like even if the Giants do well, that there will still be reasons to bash them
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have pride in bashing the Giants. I really, really, desperately want them to get a clue and start learning from their mistakes. But that keeps not happening, and thus they richly deserve all the bashing the lunatic fringe can give them. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs, really. Especially considering how good the team was from 1997-2003 or so.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems silly to get on people’s cases for bashing the Giants – outside of last year, which looks flukish, the Giants have been BAD since 2005. When the Giants give me more reasons to be positive about them, I’ll be positive. But just because I’m a fan of the team doesn’t mean I’m going to pretend every move they make is awesome if I don’t think they are.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We bash because we love. We want them to win and they keep making mediocre to bad moves.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Jan 19, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
If we didn’t have an obsessive-compulsive love and dedication to this team, do you really think we’d give two shits about Aubrey Huff?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
.75 shits, tops.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still of a believer that fluky or not, we should give the Giants the benefit of the doubt after what they did on the field last year
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Jan 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What they did on the field last year, all things considered, even if you ignore the fluke aspect, was not all the impressive. Less than 90 wins, team OPS+ in the 80s… the pitching was good and I don’t think you’ll see anyone complaining too much about the pitching (except for maybe starting the year with Bumgarner in the majors), but until the Giants show any indication that they understand how offense works, I’m not giving the benefit of the doubt on that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Jan 19, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs