Giants Re-Sign Bengie Molina
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 19, 2010 1:57 PM PST
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fuck beer
this calls for whiskey
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Fuck whiskey
This calls for pure grain alcohol and a power drill.
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
Torch the whiskey, this calls for fu…
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck this fucking fuck. (That’s a technical term, don’t get bothered with the details.)
by FireBrianSabean on Jan 19, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Rye Whiskey, Rye Whiskey, Rye Whiskey I cryyyyyy-
If I don’t get Rye Whiskey, I surely will die-
If the ocean was Whiskey and I was a duck,
I’d swim to the bottom and never come up-
I’d swim to the bottom and never come up-
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Well, show me the way
To the next whiskey bar
Oh, don’t ask why
Oh, don’t ask why
Show me the way
To the next whiskey bar
Oh, don’t ask why
Oh, don’t ask why
For if we don’t find
The next whiskey bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you, I tell you
I tell you we must die
Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say goodbye
We’ve lost our good old mama Buster Posey
And must have whiskey, oh, you know why
Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say goodbye
We’ve lost our good old mama the fucking season
And must have whiskey, oh, you know why
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
one bourbon
one scotch
one beer
/repeat 20 times
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I disagree with this decision.
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
Posey isn’t ready.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Based on his destruction of the Cal League and the PCL in one season?
or his 43 (random small-ish number chosen randomly at random) AB in teh AFL.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
I wasn’t being serious. I think Posey would be fine. And I think he’d definitely be better than Molina.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure you fell into the chasm…why don’t they just start drafting players with major league experience so we don’t have to wait all of the time. GIANT BRAS!
Brian says a lot of things. Brian only does one thing, though. Get low OBP hacking suckholes who’s best years are in the past. - Missing Barry
by jhiat00 on Jan 19, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Blinded by anger.
Fell into the chasm.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
FUCK THIS TEAM
I ALREADY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK!!!
by djp4cal on Jan 19, 2010 1:59 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
+2
bondslegend will agree with us
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
FUCK AND YES I FUCKING AGREE
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Jan 19, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's more than twice what sanchez just got
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Sigh.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
i've been yelling out the word fuck for the last few minutes
damn i really thought buster had a shot….fuck you sabean
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I actually screamed “NO, NO!” when I saw the announcement… several family members came running.
FUCK THIS TEAM
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
+1
my roommate was concerned
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, hacker extraordinaire. Rescuing moribund Giants lineups since 2008
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
+2
I got a very concerned “What’s going on, is everything alright?” Then I explained, and he laughed
by aaroncallagher on Jan 19, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Not going to happen.
“He’s our cleanup hitter”
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
There’s no chance he doesn’t bat 4th or 5th.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
He will bat 6
That’s the message we’ve been getting.
Honestly, they’re not going to displace Huff or DeRosa for bengie. Sabean loves his gritty vets equally.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
Maybe, but just because they’re saying it doesn’t mean they’re gonna do it. We’ve seen this before.
The baseball Satanist
This
I do not trust Bruce Bochy or Brian Sabean. At all. I fully expect to see Bengie hitting 4th or 5th because Bochy has given me no reason to expect otherwise.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
once more with a feeling
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
Like I said...
…inappropriate! Molina doesn’t have that much power.
Yes, really, I have not updated my blog in a long long time: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
Holy cripes!
Just as I was scrolling past this picture, an honest-to-goodness thunderball exploded over my house. Hands are now shaking. I think I need a hug.
awwwww poor stickrat….
I’ve heard we need to batten down the hatches this afternoon… lightning, heavy rain, tornado warnings in LA ….
Yeah, it’s like a rain forrest out there. Thunder storms and downpours one minute, sunshine the next. Good thing I watched the Jesse Ventura show the other night about how the government is controlling the weather, or I’d be wondering what the hey-all is going on.
Rat, you're in L.A.?
Because here in Phoenix we usually get a watered down version of whatever you’re going through.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Pardon me.
Geographic contextuality wasn’t exactly there.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
ATTENTION ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO DEFENDED THE AUBREY HUFF SIGNING AND THE DIRECTION SABEAN WAS TAKING
I will now accept your apology.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Jan 19, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ask Jose Castillo
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
=/
Bai jiu is big time bad news…
Pray for a snow drift.
by BurkettandSwift on Jan 19, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
For a second I thought that was a water bottle.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Where...how...why...huh?
What the hell happened? And they left Torrealba in the dark again? Posey cries while restaurants around AT&T Park rejoices!
Win the inning.
Oh my
Clearly, as soon as Lincecum filed for less than $20 million, the Giants felt they had the roster flexibility to sign another big name.
Alas, poor Buster! I knew him, Horatio.
I'm as tall as Mel - why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
What's big about Bengie is neither his name nor his upside...
…it’s his backside.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I really like that Fire Sabean logo
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
what
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Incidentally
I’m currently getting some work doing transcriptions of several audio files – it’s nothing much, but it’s some money while I look for a real job. I was getting some work done on it just now with my web browser in the background. Then, rotorueter’s comment in the last thread about this popped up.
IF I DON’T FINISH THIS PROJECT ON TIME IT’S YOUR FAULT, SABEAN.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh Buster, We Hardly Knew Ye
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
This isn't a bad deal
It’s actually a very solid price. But I just don’t want any more Bengie. I guess we’ll see Posey in 2011.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
the man made more outs than anyone in baseball last year
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Jan 19, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
How is it a good price?
4.5 million for a .295 OBP?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Who happens to be blocking a top 3 prospect?
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
For a cash strapped team*
*who isn’t really cash-strapped.
DIVIDENZZZZ
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Just like when people are wrong for just quote BA, it’s wrong to just quote OBP.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Well, it's the most important offensive stat hands down.
A measure of how many times a batter does not fail.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Trust me
I understand the importance of it. It’s not the entire picture. And someone who can sit behind homeplate an entire season has an incredibly low offensive requirement. I’m not happy he’s resigned, I’m just saying that the money is right.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
c'mon
there are plenty of guys out there who can play catcher the whole year, for less than this, who are less likely to break than a 35 year old fat tub of goo.
I will be booing this guy
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Hate the game, not the player.
He neither volunteered his services nor did they refuse to sign him.
Bengie, at this point, is blameless.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I agree. All my animosity is directed at Sabean
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t know if I’ve ever or will ever boo a Giant player.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I booed Bochy last year
i booed the whole fucking team back in 1996, when I went to a double header and they got their asses kicked by the Pirates in both games. Anyone who didn’t boo them at that point didn’t have a pulse.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The summer of 96 was good times. I just graduated HS so I didn’t follow the Giants as much that year. Probably a good thing.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
It was brutal
I had a free ticket to that doubleheader. It still wasn’t worth it.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I had repressed that memory after years of therapy.
I went to those games. Four game series against the Pirates, who going in were just as bad as the Giants in the standings. Afterwards, the Giants were in dead last. Some klutz missed third base and was called out on appeal. It was so bad that I spotted it sitting in the upper deck. Those were good times. Not really.
I booed Ray Durham once. I was at the game in 2006, I think it was, when the Dodgers clinched a playoff berth at the Phone Booth. The Giants were just embarrassingly flat and unmotivated, given the situation, and Durham allowed a guy to tag and score from third on a pop-up to second. Just… not paying attention. Whoops. I was pretty angry with him.
I don’t like the player. He’s soft and slow, and entirely too temperamental for his talent level.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
this
He sulked while he sucked last year.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
this
I didn’t like how he shat bricks when Posey got called up last year. He’s 35 and average. He should know that a 23-year-old top prospect is going to have a far bigger place in his team’s future than he will. It also pisses me off when people consider themselves extremely important to their team, especially when they aren’t actually good.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
right but he’s not really backing it up with stellar defense and baserunning.
That said, you’re sorta right. They paid about what Molina’s value would be to an average team, just not what Molina’s marginal value was to them, which is his value over Posey.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
His value over posey is negative.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Probably
But the Giants FO wasn’t going to have Posey be the starter (yes, I think that’s incredibly stupid), so really it’s the value over Whiteside right now.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
The Giants should have sent this 4.5 million to Haiti
as long as they weren’t looking to improve the on field product with it.
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Long list of replacement level vets]—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
they thought they were
roughly the same size
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
UGH.
I’m so fucking sick of this argument (even though I made it earlier). The team’s insistence on giving inferior players playing time should not be a defense for their signing of players who are equal to / worse than what they already have.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Agreed
Again, I don’t like the deal, but at least what they did pay is a reasonable amount.
Of course, it’s just another in a long line of small, wasted investments (bookended by two huge, wasted investments).
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Why do people obsess about OBP when it comes to Bengie
This is the one guy I DON’T want to see on base that often. If he gets on in 2 out of 10 plate appearances, that’s fine, as long as those two hits drive in runners. I’ll say it once again: Buster needs more time in the minors as he is still learning, and another few months isn’t going to be a bad thing for his development. And would you really rather have Whiteside as the starter going into the season.
by crazedcrustacean on Jan 19, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, for some reason i agree with this, his place in the batting order shouldn’t require an OBP that is that good
It’s everyone’s jobs to not make outs, you’re a better offensive player when you don’t. But, even with a .300 OBP, as a catcher, you can be valuable.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Yes, but that actually doesn’t happen as often as you might think. Or, you could just drive in a run without making an out. That works too.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Yeah, but when you’re actively not making not-outs, you’re also actively inhibiting overall run production. There is simply no way around this.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops, replied to the wrong comment.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Should we use a divining rod instead?
Every good projection system worth it’s salt thinks so, so…
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I’d rather just use what happens during the game as a projection… like i said, projections are just a tool to see what MIGHT happen
Okay, then
Name for me one fat 36-year old catcher coming off a season where he had an OBP under .290, and during which his strike out rate doubled, and who then came back the next season to be good.
Okay….go!
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
he’s only 35…not that this changes anything
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
You're right
He’s turning 36 during the season – that’s where that came from. But it didn’t fit in with my premise.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
projections are just a tool to see what MIGHT happen
More like they’re a tool to play the percentages to the best of your ability going forward….which ultimately results in better decision making/returns….
by Missing Barry on Jan 19, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
OK guys, let’s just sign Omar Vizquel and see what happens during the game. Forget projections.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Well, his numbers last year totally sucked at every level. So the projections probably don’t mean anything.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
all i’m saying is… how do we know. I know that nobody’s really happy about this, nor does anyone think that anything productive could come out of Molina being in at catcher
And people are telling you. Yet you continue to ask the same question.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
No, he’s speaking in absolutes is the problem here. Do we know without a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of a doubt that something that is vaguely within the real of possibility and hasn’t happened yet won’t happen? Sure, we don’t know. It’s kind of pointless to play that game, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Quios?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, Bengie Molina could have a .900 OPS this year. It’s possible. We don’t know that he won’t.
And yes, Buster Posey could be a terrible major league baseball player. He could be supremely awful. It’s possible. We don’t know that it won’t be the case.
But we have a pretty damn good idea that neither of those things are true.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
see? that’s what i’m looking for, thanks… And here i say, good lord, what the fuck was Sabean thinking? If anything, why would you sign a catcher who has no ceiling… With Posey, he could have gotten the continuity he needed with the pitchers… Plus even though he might have had a down year, it’s better than not playing at all… it’s all a valuable learning experience
We have a pretty good idea about those things based on what happened on the field AND projections.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Of course it’s possible that Molina outplays Posey next year. It’s just the less likely thing to happen.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
well, of course he outplays Posey next year
Posey will get 12 PA in September. Hard to out play the guy who is there all year.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Unless
You drop him to 8th, then his OBP would likely go up.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
A 35 year old fat catcher coming off a down year?
Sounds promising.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Did you watch him play last year?
Have you looked at his numbers? What in the world gives you the impression he’ll even get to last year’s production?
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Empirically, no.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Phew, replied to the right comment.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
This is the one guy I DON’T want to see on base that often. If he gets on in 2 out of 10 plate appearances, that’s fine, as long as those two hits drive in runners.
This is basically all wrong, unless he’s only hitting HR’s those 2 of 10 times.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Most McCoven don’t trust Bochy to play Posey over Molina when the time comes.
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Grizzled old catchers love them some grizzled old catchers
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
If there’s a player who you don’t want to see get on base, then that’s a player who you don’t want to see at all.
“I WANT one of my everyday players to make outs almost every single time he comes up to hit!”
That’s psychotic!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I am not understanding their line of reasoning either.
WHY IS BENGIE?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
a change will be made sooner
Either the player, the manager or the GM (or all three!)
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Well, he won’t be on base that often, so there you go.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Yeah, but there’s no point in playing him. He’s a bad defender, a bad hitter (one of the 5 worst regulars in all of baseball last year), and a horrid runner. Where is the benefit in playing Bengie Molina?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yeah, another move where it actually doesn’t bother me one bit in a vacuum.
But then I get out of the vacuum and aaaaugh.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
How do you get out of a vacuum?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
You have to turn it from suck to blow.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 19, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Because every thread with a Star Wars ref needs a Spaceballs one!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I’m sure I could be convinced to hate it in a vacuum, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
I kinda agree, but the rage is going right now. If it weren’t for Bochy’s ability to play the wrong player for months on end, this signing could be viewed as a 2-month placeholder for Posey. But…. but….
RAGE!
The Giants Way™"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
even then,
isn’t the money way too much for a placeholder?
There were better options. Barajas and Torrealba were better options. Molina could easily fall apart and put up a 550 OPS at any second.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...-----RIP, MY SON
1/4.5 is just no money at all. He’s been pretty consistently a ~2 win player in his career. I wanted Posey to be the catcher, but that was obviously not going to happen. If there’s anything to get mad over, it’s that decision. Once that one was made, 1/4.5 to Molina just really isn’t a bad option.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
+1. The decision not to play Posey, especially with the 40 man roster spot and the arb clock ticking, is idiotic. I do not trust Bochy to play him when the time comes.
But if they were going to insist on signing a veteran catcher, yeah, you may have wasted $1-2M over Yorvit or such, but I’m not at all uncomfortable with Molina on a one year deal and I’d argue with. If Posey picks it up, then trade Molina to the Mets or such at the deadline.
As it turns out, the decision not to offer arbitration was genius, when I thought it was stupid. Probably saved $2-4M.
Brett Pill - .302/.359/.849 at the graveyard for hitters known as Dodd, .996 fielding percentage led all EL 1B (so much for his 'defensive issues' that someone posted'), probably should have been EL MVP (finished 2nd to Cleveland's top prospect), and nary a staff mention on MCC outside of Minor Lines and almost no fanposts!
bleh, that’s supposed to be “argue with the assumption that Barajas or Torrealba being better options.”
Brett Pill - .302/.359/.849 at the graveyard for hitters known as Dodd, .996 fielding percentage led all EL 1B (so much for his 'defensive issues' that someone posted'), probably should have been EL MVP (finished 2nd to Cleveland's top prospect), and nary a staff mention on MCC outside of Minor Lines and almost no fanposts!
My anger is largely based on the fact that, with Bochy as our manager, Molina will play everyday as long as he is on the roster.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...-----RIP, MY SON
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought if Posey started the season in the minors and was down there for awhile it would delay his arb clock. Is that not the case?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
It is
He needs to be in the minors for about 2 months to delay his clock another year. That HAS to happen now.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
But the 4.5M is a lot more than they would have had to pay equivalent options like Barajas or Torrealba.
WAR doesn’t factor in baserunning or catcher defense. Take those runs away from Bengie’s WAR, and he’s pretty much replacement level. He has no value whatsoever.
Let's Play a Lineup Game!
The Kids: Lewis, Posey, Sandoval, Bowker, Schierholtz, Frandsen, Ishikawa, Amezaga
Sabean's Vets: Rowand, Sanchez, DeRosa, Sandoval, Huff, Renteria, Schierholtz, Posey
The Kids' CHONE WAR projection= 12.7
Sabean's Vets' CHONE War projection= 13.5
Pretty much this. I think he’s probably really worth half a win or so, but basically he’s a $4.5M replacement player.
My calculation is: fangraphs’ WAR = 2 – 0.5 runs (baserunning) – 1 run (defense).
Yeah, but what you’re not taking into account is the fact that you can’t hurt your team with your baserunning when you don’t get on base in the first place. :)
by Missing Barry on Jan 20, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
Not a bad deal in a vacuum
And I understand that Sabean’s probably trying to “go for it.”
But it’s still blegh considering the Posey situation.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Blargh, howie used "vacuum" before I did...
phooey
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
That totally sucks.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 19, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck this team
What a stupid bunch of idiots.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 2:03 PM PST reply actions
I'm with Lars
Hope y’all don’t mind me being late to the hate bandwagon
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Fuck fuck fuck
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 19, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK This is the worst thing thats happened to me today and I’m under a criminal investigation :(
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
well since they track my online activity, NOW THEY DO YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
First off… don’t you talk about my momma that way!
and secondly… that would be daughter of a bitch ….
ALRIGHT!???!
How do you want me to talk about your momma?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Even Jesus is sad.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Jan 19, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINA!
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
BTW
LOL Channel 5 – now breaking breaking Giants news.
I try not to break the rules, but merely to test their elasticity.
I felt guilty about getting fucked up out of my mind this weekend…. now I realize that it was just preemptive.
Proud father of Barry Zito. As long as he keeps throwing strikes, that is.
I wonder if Buster will start the season as the back up catcher in the bigs so there is no silver lining with his arb clock
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
well, if you're gonna play "FAIL", you might as well go all the way
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Hopefully we can delay his arb
even though this year he would be the 2nd or 3rd best hitter on the team (depending on how DeRosa does)
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I’d rather not make the playoffs this year and have 6 more full seasons of cost controlled Posey than not make the playoffs this year and only have 5 more seasons of cost controlled Posey (which wouldn’t include his cheapest season)…
by Missing Barry on Jan 19, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Rod Brooks: “If you’re a Giants fan, you’re feeling pretty good right now.”
/bangs head
I ALREADY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK!!!
heh...just heard that myself
And his partner just said “I’ll take Nate Schierholtz in the eight hole”. Disgusting!
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Pretty much
Dodgers fans are rejoicing.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Dodger fans are laughing their asses off right now.
Much like we would’ve been had the Mets signed Molinagoo.
Somehow I blame the Rockies for this. They messed up the Yorvit negotiations.
Yorvit messed them up
we made over 700k in concessions and he wouldn’t budge a single dollar
Attention Whore.
I have been dreading this would happen since I heard talks with the Mets went to shit.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
i literally made a joke yesterday about bengie coming back
fuck my life
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
LITERALLY
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Your optimistic
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
You're
whatever. I’m too angry to care about grammar
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Yeah I'm not happy about this
Kevin Frandsen: The best SS on the Giants roster
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
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by Natto on Jan 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
THIS is what I came to see.
FUCK.
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Jan 19, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
“We’re short one bathrobe.”
“take it from Toby.”
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightened inmate #2 on Jan 19, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I may choose to ignore a significant amount of games this season. I just can’t take another year of this crap.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST reply actions
I wish I was
I am just tired of this groundhog day idiocy.
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 19, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions