Giants Lose the Game, Series
Dropping two of three to the worst team in the division at home. Scoring five combined runs off Kevin Correia and Wade LeBlanc. Wasting your time. We're not in this thing.
The same post-Coors disclaimer applies: if you want to get technical, we're still in this thing. Maybe Colorado will lose three straight at the same time the Giants win three straight. And then we'll have hope again.
Because, really, I'm just geeked about watching Joel Piniero throw a complete game, 77-pitch shutout against Randy Winn, Eugenio Velez, Bengie Molina, and Edgar Renteria in the only playoff game at home this season. That's why I'm living and dying with the team. I just can't wait to watch this team against some real competition.
In five years, most of us will have mostly positive memories of this season. It was the season we weren't expecting, the season that was worth watching. That's because we're stupid. Really, really stupid.
And of course, the reason that the Giants lost this game was a failed bunt. THE LITTLE THINGS omg! Forget that even with runners on second and third with one out, a Velez strikeout and Sanchez popout wouldn't have done anything. Forget that the team was offensively inept for the rest of the game. The Giants can't execute THE LITTLE THINGS.
Screw it. I'm so not watching the game tomorrow. That's a promise. I'll probably come back on Friday, but there's no way I"m watching any baseball tomorrow.
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Soooo...how many games out of the WC do we have to be...
Jason Stoffel: 20IP, 1-0, 0.90, 4SV, 19K. The heir apparent to B-Weez.
before they stop with the "We're In!" campaign?
Jason Stoffel: 20IP, 1-0, 0.90, 4SV, 19K. The heir apparent to B-Weez.
Sabean w/Ralph yesterday talking about Bochy 4 MOY
Priceless
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Guess this means
Bochy is coming back next year. Sigh.
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
If the pie is the Giants,
And the baker is Bochy,
One of those fish would be Renteria, and the other Molina.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and flailing failing
/fixed
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
Is there any chance at all that Bochy doesn't come back next year
I mean, realistically?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Sadly, I doubt it.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
they’re not firing Sabean after such a successful season, especially when nobody thought they would be any good. The only question left is whether Sabean in on board with this veteran love of Bochy’s, or it’s making him angry. I could see Sabean cutting him loose if this continues.
proud father of Edgar (Grandslam) Renteria
No way...
The only way, I mean the absolute only way that Bochy doesn’t return next year (other than his untimely death in a hot air balloon accident), is if Sabean doesn’t return.
GIT R DUNN GINATS BRASSSZ!!!
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Did Kruk just call watching these RISP situations “water torture”? Is he reading McCovey live?
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
I was thinking the same thing.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk: "can’t get the bunt down"
Giants bad situational hitters? Wrong.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
It’s a frickin’ eulogy now.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions
Heath Bell BAA:
RHH- .105
LHH- .268
Why would we pinch hit for Renteria there? Or Uribe (obviously because he’s hot)?
Fuck this shit.
BORKIAN LAW #250: THOU SHALT NOT PINCH HIT FOR AN ESTABLISHED CLUTCH HITTER
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 9, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
what are the other 249?
1. your catcher is always your cleanup hitter
2. posey sucks
3. frandsen sucks
4. bowker sucks
5. guzman sucks
6. AURILIA IS TEH AWESOME
Rule Number 133
Thou shalt double switch whenever possible
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I hate to give Bochy credit but...
…despite all our ragging on him for his vet lovin’ ways, Aurilia has had exactly ONE at-bat since being activated. (He even got a hit in that one at-bat!) That’s the same number of ABs as Guzman and Frandsen, and 2 fewer than Bowker.
Bochy’s not going with vets over youth right now; he’s dancing with them as brung him (as they say).
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
brung him to the bottom of the majors in runs scored.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck this team. I’ll be here to watch em Friday, which is sad.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions
I want to go to the game, but I do not want to pay more than 20 bucks per ticket. And I do not want to feel like this afterward
I think it’s a GIANTSK game for $7 tickets.
by troymccluresf on Sep 9, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
$7 off, and the code is CAIN this time. Still $25 for VR
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
when he says theres nothing he can do about bunts
he’s askin to get canned. I mean, if there’s one thing they can learn, that is it. When a manager says he can’t fix it, well, he’s toast. or should be.
Bye Benji, thanks
He looked positively lazy out there with Zito…Just play Posey and see where he’s at.
So is this the part where I tell you guys we still have a chance, and you begrudgingly agree after we sweep colorado?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
mmmmm, Irish heritage night
I’ve got some Feckin’ waiting for me at home.
Jimmy McNulty
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Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course they have a chance
But it’s awfully hard to be optimistic after a game and series like this.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Meh. Why not?
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
zing!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Post-Shitty Game Roll Call Top 10; Congrats to jcb9
Name – # of Posts
jcb9 – 125
CB30 – 107
Mrbasepaul – 88
Natto – 84
kdl – 70
49er16 – 63
scout6 - 61
jhiat00 – 50
Kitspool – 44
tocororo – 43
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions
I’m guessing all of them.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No, we talked about which obscure/small countries we like for a while. Bhutan, the -istans, etc.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I guess you get credit for that.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
44 posts make the Top 10? Most games jponry has 44 posts before the National Anthem! LOL!
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
Twas a sad game. Only two game threads, too.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooh, my first time on the list. Somehow, I’m not proud, though.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Most regular post whores werent here till late (like me) or werent here at all.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
My first time posting during a game ever
it was kinda…ok, it sucked, this game sucked, i guess the only good thing about it was not watching it totally alone
At long last
Jprawny’s reign of terror has ended!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
so we’re now judging trades on the basis of one game? That’s pretty smart. I guess the right thing to do now is post the results of Alderson’s last performance. Five innings, 7 earned runs, 11 hits, 0 K’s and 3 walks. And that’s against AA hitters.
proud father of Edgar (Grandslam) Renteria
Hey, how'd Renteria do today
MONEY DOWN THE STRETCH, NERDS
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
LOL renteria
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
You only get to use it if September doesn’t count as “the stretch”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
lol you are so lame
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
BA IS THE ONLY IMPORTANT STATZ TWO
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Doesn't matter
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
LOL Microsplits
In 39 whole at bats.
Also, it’s about a weak a .359 as you can imagine. 3 doubles, no triples, no homers.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Is Frank Robinson available to manage?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions
Mike Ditka?
Bobby Knight?
The White Knight?
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
Knights of Columbus?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
lol
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone please explain the text message thing.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a capability that modern phones have by which you can communicate by using the telephone’s keypad to input text which is then sent digitally to another person’s phone, where they can read it on their screen and respond in kind.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s an alternative to talking, really.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m here to help.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You are?
Have I mixed up “help” and “annoy” again? I hate when I do that.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Yeah, I think that must be what you did.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Reuter texted K&K to say that he could've gotten the bunt down.
And that he has better stuff- today- than LeBlanc.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Woody would have thrown a perfecto against the Giants today, obviously.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
81 pitches! All K’s!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a lot of kinds of awesome.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Penny starts fucking with the team chemistry and calls out all these hitters for how much they suck.
Is that your professional opinion Docter?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Penny lit a fire under one team’s ass already this week – the Padres. I’ll be hoping he decides to STFU.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
“Not to take anything away from Lincecum and Cain, but he’s almost been our No. 1,” says Giants catcher Bengie Molina. “He’s been lights-out.”
GOD..every time I think I hate him most he just keeps reaching
But catcher is the most important position on the field! And Bengie is our starting catcher! Ergo: Bengie is correct.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Interestingly
this explains why he is the cleanup hitter. Because he is the cleanup hitter. QED
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
i was gonna scientifically/bullshit explain his fat cells screwing with his brain cells, but fuck it. Fuck him.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Umm, the brain IS fat. By your rational, Bengie should be the smartest person on the team and Valez and Timmy are stoopid
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know that. Young and dumb, I am.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it’s really true, there are fatty parts that make up the brain, but it’s not like the stuff around Bengie’s waist – that is pure awesomeness. Or beer. I can’t remember.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Woops, meant to say “not really true”.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
/Cain and Lincecum look at each other and both laugh.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Well, we tried
We, not the Giants.
Tony Gwiynn Sr. once said hitting is basically
wait wait wait, then fast fast fast.
I’ve had enough of
guess guess guess and head back to the bench.
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
Unfortunately, he’s dead. However, he still could do no worse then the Giants’ hitters.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
How about Butch Patrick aka Eddie Munster? What’s he up to?
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
Dunno, but I’m holding out for Danny Bonaduce.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
So, at what point...
Do they start playing Posey every day? Six games out? Eight games?
And then, what happens when they do, and they start winning, and we end up finishing like four games out because Bochy waited so long to play him?
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions
BORK BORK
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
I skipped the game today…gotta tell you , this stepping back thing – it feels better.
Looking forward to next year…which should be on the other side of some wholescale changes.
Changes in personnel up and down the organization. This was gross mismanagement.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions
Looking forward to next year…which should be on the other side of some wholescale changes.
Yes, Bob Howry will be gone.
This concludes the changes in the 2010 Giants.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Traded Buster Posey for a washing machine.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
16.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It's unreal how much of a dumbass Bochy is
“Well, let’s see here, bottom 8 down by 2, let’s bunt here with a Pinch Hitter…”
“Well damn that sucked, hmm, our best hitter in the hole with only one out…. Let’s not put in one of our better OBP guys (who has also been a pretty decent PH), and go with a guy who was hot for 2 weeks all season…”
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
BORKIAN LAW #20:FRED LEWIS SHALL NEVER PLAY AGAIN
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
REAL FANS WATCH ON OFF DAYS
I’ll be hanging out with Frank Chu at the Willie Mays statue all day
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
/looks at gas receipts , laughs
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Frank Chu sighting
INSIDE the yard last night around the 6th inning. Sans sign… is there a coat check for tinfoil hats and so on no one has told me about?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Your 2009 San Francisco Giants
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
TAPS PLASTICS
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
The fantastic plastic place!
T-T-T-T-Tap!
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
badass username/avatar
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
You may remember me from such heart-wrenching Giants losses as … well, today!
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 9, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
winner
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
no
but it’s where you get your best buys.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
TAPS PLASTICS
Well played, sir. Well played indeed.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Going to the vending machine.
Favorite candy bar? Mine is snickers.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I’m going to tentatively agree with you. Twix and Milky Way Midnight are close seconds.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Twix is the best, imo.
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
I do like Twix but it doesn’t have peanuts.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
eh
I think they’re pretty accurately rated. 3.2 WAR seems about right.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The hooker he punched disagrees.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Thankfully he didn’t follow the list on his apron.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
He can’t do that all day.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
stop having a boring life
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Gladly
if the Giants would can Botchy
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It must not be made in Germany
You know the Germans always make good stuff.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 9, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Slap my nuts!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been addicted to Snickers since I was, like, 4. No, I’m not fat.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
So like, 10 years?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, Reeses is better than any of them, but it’s not technically a “bar”
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Reeses Pieces > Peanut Butter Cups
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
You are right
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
That is incorrect.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
wait, who is correct?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You are correct?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
UTG WAS RIGHT!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You are correct
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
That is correct.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You are right
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Meh
I used to hate ’em, but now I can just live without ’em.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The haze clears enough to remember a friend who used to put a Reeses peanut butter cup between 2 pieces of bread and toast it. Complemented with the requisite pint of chocolate milk. On seeing this culinary spectacle, others slowly rose from the haze and shuffled toward the kitchen.
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
Will the Rockies win tonight?
Magic 8-ball is stuck on “yes.” Dammit.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
Giants Lose the Game, Series, and Season
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
And celebrating the achievements of others' adoptees, Joey Martinez and Nate Schierholtz
you know how many times i've said this to my wife in the past month or so...
she doesn’t take me seriously anymore.
by travis j bagdad on Sep 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's okay...
…she probably didn’t take you seriously before, either.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
The thing is, most of the times I said that before, it just meant I felt hopeless at the moment due to the most recent crushing defeat. This time, it just feels like a fact: oh well, the season’s over. Not mathematically, of course, but I don’t think it will go away with one more win. We’ll see.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
And celebrating the achievements of others' adoptees, Joey Martinez and Nate Schierholtz
We're in this thing!!!!!!........mathematically.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
Game, series, hope, dignity, lunch
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
you know
im pretty sure this is the 3rd time we’ve officially declared the season over. or second. i can’t remember. but i can iffically say i’m outta of this
until saturday.
/has a sad
If the rest of the season is anything like the rest of the season has gone so far
then the Giants will win 8 of the next 10.
Not that I’m optimistic. i’ve just seen this team look horrible, only to bounce back and surprise us all with a good stretch of games too many times this year.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
21 of 22.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 9, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's true
It will blow all of our minds when we sweep them, yet they somewho record three wins to stay ahead by three games.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
We havent had a 5-game winning streak all season.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
And we won’t.
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So I spent a 2 1/2 hours discussing racism and racial thought in Europe
And I’d rather rehash that discussion than watch this game replay.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Im drafting my Fantasy team tonight, well, 2nd team
Anyone else in NN league 5?
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I had to autodraft, and MAN I got hosed. My team sucks. It looks like another last-place finish for Hsawaknow,
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not in league 5, though. I’m in, like… league 1 or something.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Who’s like your first 5 picks?
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I don’t remember. But somehow I ended up with like Matt Schaub, Chad Pennington and Shaun Hill, half a defense, nine tight ends and one and a half running backs.
It was really bad.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Wishful thinking department:
Who would be a good manager for the 2010 Giants?
Or, if you’d rather, who would’ve been a good fit for this year’s squad?
Do managers and coaches just inevitably look terrible when seen on a day-to-day basis? Is there any manager out there of whom the McCoven would approve? Steve Decker seems cool, but might be just as prone to maddening flaws. Tony LaRussa is a winner, but his hiring would break teh interwebs ’round these parts. Bud Black? Do San Diegans dislike him for any particular reason? Joe Maddon?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions
LOL! Guess I should've checked the sidebar.
Great minds, they say, think alike.
And fools never differ.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember hearing...
That LaRussa’s contract was up at the end of the year, and STL might not bring him back.
I’d like to see Decker or Wotus get a shot, though. I wanted Wotus before they brought in Bochy.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You want to bork Wotus now?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you sure?
I posted this yesterday. It’s from Bengie Molina’s blog, Behind the Mask:
That game on Sunday against Colorado, Bochy and our bench coach, Ron Wotus, did an amazing job. They’re always on the same page, figuring everything out, what moves to make, which arms are fresh. They have to consider so many different things. I really admire how they go about their business.
Doesn’t that shake your faith in Wotus a little?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mean I wanted him next year...
just that I want Bochy fired today.
It doesn't for me.
The bench coach’s JOB is to mirror the manager. That doesn’t mean that if he were the manager, he would do the same things. I think Wotus would be good. He really does think differently than Bochy.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
How do we know this? Because he’s yes-manned three different managers, and by definition he couldn’t agree with both Dusty incinerating the rotation and Felipe torching the bullpen?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I have had two different chats with him at two different times.
They weren’t in depth, but he was pretty candid and said all the things that I personally wanted to hear.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
Maybe he can read your mind. EVER THINK OF THAT?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Awww, crap. I hadn't even considered that. Crap.
You’re probably on to something.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on the range from which they can do it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
What’s his Mind-Reading UZR?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
(polite golf clap)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, all they need is an internet connection in the clubhouse.
McCoven Grougthink Named Manager of Giants
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, so the next time the mayor talks to Wotus he needs to keep backing up until Wotus stops telling him what he wants to hear. If it’s >= the distance between the home dugout and the catcher then I think we’re on to something. But frankly I’ll be pissed if Wotus hasn’t been using this ability already.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
If he uses it too much, though, people will start to catch on and he’ll be kidnapped by the government and experimented on. You have to consider that, dude.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Even more fun than they sound, even.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm totally up for it.
But it’s mind reading, not telepathy that would allow him to send messages to the catcher/others. That would be the coolest.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if you could read the Mayor's mind...
…who would want to?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Ouch! Damn!
What the hell does that mean?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 10, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t really know what it means, it was just the kind of cheap shot I couldn’t pass up.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 10, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps he was being your bench coach (Vice Mayor?) and mirroring you.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I want LaRussa far away from this team.
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I’m not a fan of his managing style.
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What’s that book that follows him around during their playoff run? The one that can convince you that LaRussa should not be employed by any team?
Three Nights in August or something?
I’ve read it and…. yeah.
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I read it too...
And didn’t come away with a “I would never want that guy to manage my team” conclusion.
I guess I just don’t see what’s so bad about him.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He amanged the A’s. Isn’t that enough of a black mark?
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
I don't care about the A's.
I care about the Giants.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
His normal turn
Monday is when he would have gone. I’d like to see him get to 16 wins this year – although if there is even a HINT of an injury – they need to shut him down.
I thought that said Lincecum to Dodgers
My heart skipped several hundred beats
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
wails, gnashes teeth
so much despair, so little time.
I’ve tried to stay optimistic, but I can’t do it no longer.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Forget the manager who is going to hit clean up next season?
The Free Agent Corner infielder/corner outfielder list seems pretty bare. The only two that even get me remotely excited are Matt Holiday and Jason Bay and I don’t think they’re going anywhere.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
Not Bengie Molina is a good start
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
True but another late 30's hasbeen won't be much of an improvement
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Sep 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo
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Pablo
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
MONEY OUT OF THE GATE NERDS
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where did this come from, anyway?
and on that note, what is the deal with bork?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
some poster named “honkysmkalkdjajfklja” or something is an ardent Renteria apologist, but only when Renteria is not sucking
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Or these two.

Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The chow factory?? No, Herr Doktor, don't do it!
Bring him back to life! I know you can do it. Bring the Giants back to life,too. Please! I’ve already taken it upon myself to set up an emergency appointment for Mr. Bochy to see you first thing tomorrow. So, please get Igor humping his bump down to the Texas Brain Depository and make sure he doesn’t come back with anyone named ABBIE. Mr. Bochy hasn’t been the same since your last operation on him using the brain of someone with that name.
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
“Who is he talking to? And how does he make his voice do that?”
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
a) battery-powered ventriloquism?
b) some gators can speak? univ. of florida grad?
c) doctored photo / computer savvy?
I’ll go with b). Maybe he could manage the Giants.
“Get this bunt down or you’re DFA’d to the Everglades. We’ll airdrop your ass in there in just your jockstrap with a string of rump roasts hanging off it.”
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
My in - joke to you , Thomas.
From The Further Adventures Of Nick Danger: The Case Of The Missing Shoe
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
The Case of the Missing Shoe?
I whiff. No recall. Though I did have a vague inkling that something was afoot here. Sorry, Herr Doktor, I haven’t ordered the cd’s yet. Besides shoes for industry, the only footwear reference that bubbles up out of the fog is the tennis shoe or the occasional python boot….
“I couldn’t get it off last night.
Two weeks went by,
and now it’s July.
My girlfriend told me,
You got Stink Foot”
"Hey old-timer, where am I ?"
"You can't get there from here."
I normally only use it when Edgar starts.
And I’m not inclined to use it if somebody beats me to it in a thread for whatever reason.
Bochy resembles the Swedish chef from the Muppets
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I want a manager that resembles Beaker
not sure who this would be, but it takes my mind off the rage.
I do like Leyland
maybe not as my manager, but he’s flinty and crusty. The marlboro man
I fucking love Jim Leyland
And would be thrilled if he were our manager.
I love him for all the reasons you said.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Lookup posts from this guy: hokysmksbw
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Edgar Renteria in September (before today): .172/.226/.310
HE SUCKS AGAIN! EVERYONE HERE EXCEPT THAT ONE GUY WAS RIGHT!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
HERE'S A NUMBER FOR YOU
27 CAREER TRIPLES SUCKA
118TH IN ALLTIME BASEBALL FOR SAC FLIES IN HIS CAREER
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BRET BOONE, BABY
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UhOh Natto is getting yelly
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
And only 6 OUTS away from pasing Mickey Mantle!
When you pass a HOFer in something, you must be pretty good.
>=)
Doesn't the great one, Barry Bonds have like 77...
…or something.
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah right
Like the Giants would ever spend money on either Holliday or Bay. That’s the reason why they give $50 million to Rowand.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I don’t know how accurate this is, but it’s a pretty good rundown of the contracts: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/san-francisco-giants_30.html
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I am fascinated by Zito’s contract. It makes me lol for realsies.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
not as much
as it makes he and Scott Boras laugh…to the bank!
ugh...urge to kill rising
reminding me…can’t spend top dollar on free agents, too risky, but can over spend on middling talent. The Sabean FA experience.
The Giants aren't Cheap they're Stupid
126 Mil to Zito
60 Mil to Rowand
18 Mil to Renteria
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Sep 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
How much is Tim getting?
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot more after this season
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Sep 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
$650K or something? It’s actually kind of sad how little he and Panda make compared to Renteria, Winn and Rownads, for example.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The relationship between production and pay is quite hilarious on this team.
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Sep 9, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I forgot to add Molina at $6.5mil or whatever. The vets are just about the worst deal going.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
not once he hits arb
>$10MM per for arb years
Yeah, but the question was how much he makes now as a Cy freaking Young winner.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Still doesnt know how to win.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
i sure hate the dodgers
but vin scully…nah, he does not suck
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
This is an interesting reply fail.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Look at the guy's username
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I don’t get it. (puts fingers in ears)
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
RINGLOLEADER3
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
No it's not
He’s commenting on the username. Which gets commented on every time that guy posts, it seems.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
The reply fail, sir, is your own.
Check the username.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
DOH! >_<
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
WHY DON’T YOU LOOK AT THE USERNAME ALREADY?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude’s gonna have to hear this every thread until he finds a new user name. What will give first?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
the reality...
with the trash available on the free agent market next year, combined with the horrible contracts we already have on the team, our 2010 cleanup hitter will have to aquired by trading a pitcher or two (not named timmy or matt).
Pablo Sandoval would be a pretty decent cleanup hitter.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Were it up to me, our lineup would look something like:
1) Fred Lewis LF
2) Marco Scutaro SS
3) Buster Posey C
4) Pablo Sandoval 3B
5) John Bowker RF
6) Freddy Sanchez 2B
7) Aaron Rowand CF
8) Ryan Garko 1B
But that’s not gonna happen.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
scutaro won’t happen with rent’s contract, but not bad. i also like lewis leading off, and would like to see what we get out of regular at bats from bowker. my starting point:
1. lewis lf
2. sanchez 2b
3. sandoval 3b
4.
5. bowker rf
6.posey c
7. nate cf
8. rent
but it’s not going to happen either.
I don't know who you are or how old you are
but you have grasped what an entire Major League Baseball team’s scouting and executive staff has failed to grasp for a full two seasons.
I’m just very, very happy that Pablo has emerged to be the 3 hitter. I hope the Giants’ next manager will pencil that in with the same consistency Botchy has featured in not filling the cleanup spot for nearly every game in the past two years.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
if that was a compliment for me..
thank you. just a baseball fan who’s tired of watching molina swing at crap.
by giantdonkey on Sep 13, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
109
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
One positive note
We won’t have to here Frandsen whine anymore. If he wasn’t gone before today, he is now.
1. No
2. He just got here
3. He has nowhere to go
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
Both true but
he ain’t seeing the field again in a Ginats uniform.
caught the last two innings of the "game"
I’ve had many emotions after giants games, and even more in the past two weeks, mainly pure hatred and anger. But this is the first time in a long long time when i’ve just felt exclusively sad.. :(
I've often wondered what this team
would have done with Roger Craig as the manager. One thing for certain – they would have been ahell of a lot more fun to watch.
Well, yeah.
“You bruised the tip of your finger on that foul tip, Bengie? Let’s lop it off and have you back out there in time for the fourth quar- I mean, sixth inning.”
/intentionally misunderstanding statement
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, and
/gets his 49ers legendary stories mixed up.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, time for college football
Go Bears!! Went to the Cal/Maryland game last Saturday. First time in 2 years that I’ve been to a Cal game at Memorial Stadium and it was great to walk through campus again.
All in favor of the GO BEARS part
but not exactly exciting to consider hosting E. Washington. If we’re going to schedule a scrimmage it should be with Princeton or Brown or something. Now THAT would be a massacre to enjoy. I feel bad for all these sad sack I-AA schools getting fed to teams to pad their stats.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh. If major 1-A programs are gonna pay smaller schools to show up and be (essentially) preseason sacrificial lambs, I’d rather the money go to schools that could use the cash. But yes, any opportunity to crap on Princeton is welcomed. I believe both Bill Simmons on ESPN and Jon Stewart have come out with blanket (and hilarious) anti-Princeton screeds.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 10, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
CAL could use the cash.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 10, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie is hurt that you would think he's thin-skinned.
It’s always a shot in the arm when we get the September call-ups and the young guys join the team for the last month of the season. Much was made last week about the Giants management "trying to light my fire’’ by adding Buster Posey to the roster. When reporters asked if I thought the Giants were "sending me a message,‘’ I answered honestly. I didn’t think that’s what was happening. But I said IF the Giants were trying to send me a message to heal faster from my muscle strain, it’s kind of an odd thing to do. I have never given less than 100 percent, and the Giants know that, so what would be the point of "sending a message’’? I think it was reporters looking for an angle.
So before the game the other day, I was standing near Posey in front of some reporters and joked, "Hey, you better not light that fire too much. I don’t want you to burn my *!‘’ Buster kind of looked at me funny. I guess he hadn’t read the paper. Later I explained it to him. He laughed. That kid is amazing. He’s so humble. Such a nice guy. I think he’s going to be a superstar.
I saw him sitting one day by himself in the dugout, so I called him over, (I wasn’t playing, either.) We started talking about catching and strategy and how to last a long time in the big leagues. If he’s going to take my job someday, I want him to be the best. I want him to take care of these pitchers. I want him to help these guys and be a winner. I’d love to stay here and work with Posey when the time comes. I don’t want to go anywhere else. But it’s the Giants’ decision to make. It’s out of my control.
The truth is I don’t spend much time thinking about what’s going to happen next season. I’m thinking about right now, today. Who are we facing? How do we pitch them? How to win this game and then the next game? Nothing’s better than playing games that matter in September.
Thanks for reading. See you at the park!
Posted on September 9, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions
Advice on how to efficiently eat a donut.
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Sep 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The truth is I don’t spend much time thinking about what’s going to happen next season.
Hasn’t he been campaigning for a new contract since like Spring?!?
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
Aren’t baseball players supposed to have good seasons prior to free agency?
The San Francisco Giants must win at least one World Series before I die.
by vinScullySucks on Sep 9, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
“Wouldn’t want you to burn my ass”
Or would you? The intrigue continues!!
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 9, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
With all that fat...
It would burn a long time. Like a tire fire
by DrStankus on Sep 9, 2009 8:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dammit
I didn’t realize this was Little League. I thought it was big boy sports – and winning ballgames was the bottom line. You get the job done or someone else does it for you.
Instead, Bochy has to coddle Molina, Renteria and Winn, who are clearly not going to turn things around.
Bochy feels the need to show respect to the work these veterans have done “to get the team where it is now” (laughable), but what he’s really doing is showing the ultimate disrespect to the pitching staff that has done all the heavy lifting. You don’t think the staff is tired of having to pitch every game on a high wire? Help these freaking guys out already!
The Giants braintrust thinks they are protecting the future of this team by not pushing their young guys too hard. Same old Sabean bullshit, different season. Baseball success is fleeting, and there are no guarantees this pitching staff will perform next season the way they have to this point. You have to grab for that fucking ring when you get the chance – if these guys think it’s going to be so much easier next season, they are bound to have a rude awakening.
What a freaking joke. The fact that Buster Posey still doesn’t have a big league at-bat, and that Garko has 3 at-bats in the last 6 games should be a fireable offense for these two chuckleheads.
What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?
My kind of double-switch...
Fire Sabean and Bochy.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Sad developments
Wendell Fairley seems to have deleted his Facebook profile. FAREWELL, SHIRTLESS MOTORCYCLE PICTURE AND ALMOST NAKED ANGEL VILLALONA IN CATCHING GEAR PICTURE.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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PLOLAYOFFS!!
So goddamn glad I worked out and skipped this game. How the fuck bruce bochy can keep running this lineup out there and not play Posey boggles the fucking mind.
HOW MUCH WORSE COULD IT GET YOU FUCKING MORON. Day game after night game!
FUCK THIS TEAM.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Playoffs!!!
You wanna talk about playoffs??!!
Playoffs!!!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
sigh
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/team/coaches.jsp?c_id=sf
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
I like how Billy Hayes is just listed as “Coach.”
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
“Posey’s Coach”
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 9, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
BILLY HAYES HERE FOR COACHING!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks a pile
I can’t count the number of times I’ve read Hayes as Mays in the last couple of weeks, and this both made me LOL and pretty much guaranteed I’ll read that name as Billy Mays for eternity. Or until Rowand’s contract is off the books, whichever comes first.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
U R 5
Zincecaingarnerchez (Zins-ě-keyn-gahrnər-chez)
1. A five-headed monster that turns grown men's legs into jelly.
by jordanovich on Sep 10, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Want to book Lou Seal for your next gig?
- Birthdays
- Openings
* Weddings
?
by chilibean_3 on Sep 9, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Giants are just trying to build up the drama for their late season playoff run!
[yeah, right, even I don’t believe that]
they’ve never won more than what? 4 in a row?
By due, he means that they’re about to have a suck baby, and while they’re having the suck baby they’re going to doo-doo accidentally.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part about this series loss...
Is that we’re going to go and do something ridiculous like go 6-3 in the next 3 series against Bums, Rockies, Bums, and be something like 3 games out of the division and 1 out of the WC. Then we’ll go 2-5 against the D-Bags and Cubs, and we’ll have hope yanked from us once again.
just got back from the game
I’m so pissed I’ve put so much money into ticket sales and whatnot this year. That was the worst game I’ve ever been too.
Never ever heard so many fans boo their own team and have never seen a ballpark so quiet aside from the booing.
bad bad bad bad bad
With malice towards the Dodgers
lol troll
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Wait, now you sound like a Giants fan. I’m confused.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
while giants_playoff_chances True:
break_fans_hearts()
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Coming from the person who wrote:
“would be able to take care of the Padres if what”
All I said was that my original statement was not an if then statement. It’s a type of statement used in the english language. Example:
If the Giants had an offense, then they could win a series against the Padres.
It really is too bad that your community sucks so much that you have to hang out over here instead of there
With malice towards the Dodgers
I dont see
the point in shitting on someone who likes it here. Whatever.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Put it this way
If the tables were turned, and the Rockies had just lost 2 of 3 to the Padres, and I showed up on Purple Row by saying, “I’m pretty sure the Giants could take care of the Padres,” I doubt they’d respond positively.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
HEY GRANT!!
LOOK HOW I AM BEHAVING MYSELF!!!
=)
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
/gives Lars a cookie
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
WHOSE A GOOD LARS?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
YES YOU ARE!
/tussles hair
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
I think that’s my good Lars.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Yeah that was douchey, you're right
but it IS true. The Giants’ offense is fucking pathetic. And I admit I’m not as angry, because I didn’t watch the losses.
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Just a tip
if you like it here, don’t antagonize us after a shitty loss. It ain’t cool.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I was just going with the status quo...
Which happens to be trash the Giants after they lose. I was just trying to fit in…
:X
Not the same
you’re a fan of another team, and you mentioned that other team. You know that’s not the same thing. Stop being a douche about it.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I was supposed to keep taking those? I thought we were in this thing already?!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
I might have some stashed if you’re willing to pay… a lot.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You, of all people, don’t?
Wow. That must’ve been some talking-to.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
IM A NEW MAN
He’s not saying something retarded. There’s a difference.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
The giants do have an offense
it’s on the bench.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Umm, no.
Facts would be relevant to something that has happened, not something that you speculate about. “I think the Rox would be able to take care of the Pads” is a 100% fact free statement.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Science! (?)
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
We'll call you.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a fact that he thinks this.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ, do you people have nothing to do over there? This isnt even that bad of a troll, but god damn the sheer numbers are amazing
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I love how Purple Row loves to talk about how they’re classy and we have dirty mouths and are rude, and yet they keep coming over here to troll like, “LOL U SUCK!!!!!”
Which is also kind of sad, because it’s not like that’s new information or something that’ll hurt our feelings.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I come over here from time to time.
And unlike a lot of the others who “OMG OMG THEY ARE MEEN TO SOME OF OUR GUIS SO UGH”…I enjoy 90% of the posts over here. And not because you make fun of the Giants, but generally the humor is great.
I have seen several posts over there that say “OMG THEY ARE JUST TERRIBLE AND SWEAR AND WE ARE BETTER” but I could give a shit.
This isnt based at you at all, there have been several encounters recently
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I agree about the encounters.
I was reading a few messages over there of people who were mad at some over here. I was just annoyed and wanted this person to go use nerd-rage elsewhere.
You're a cool person
I like you already.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
could not give a shit.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
(gives Howie the secret grammar handshake)
Right on, mang.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
I could totally give a shit about this particular rule.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
secret grammar handshake!?
Me wants to learn this!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
“Handshake” is only a euphemism. The greeting actually involves rubbing their butt cheeks together.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This does not change anything.
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why my collection of Chaps really comes in handy.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Translation: Which is how your hand became chapped in the first place.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he was in fact willing to donate some feces.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, listening to Revolution 1 right now off the remasters
and it’s making me wish we could have a revolution with these lineups.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
So, how is it?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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depressing. Oh. You don’t mean the lineup.
The Remasters are killer. Getting a bunch of stuff out of The Beatles that i’ve never caught before. Abbey Road was really nice too! Havn’t checked out the Past Masters stuff, and still looking for the Beatles in Mono album somewhere.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Getting a bunch of stuff out of The Beatles that i’ve never caught before.
Just listen to them on acid!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
that was back in high school though!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Yeah!
/looks around
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
/drops acid with Lars for old time sake to forget this season
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Television was awesome on LSD. Even the news was entertaining.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I played Street Fighter 2 for like 6 hours on LSD once
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
I have a bazillion stories about trips. I should write them all out one day.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The last time I did I was listening to a record that was produced by a friend of mine and I SWORE I heard him breathing somewhere in the recording studio!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I played Halo for 8 hours once
but I wasnt on anything
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the only things I’ve ever spent 8 straight hours on have been essays for school.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The only reason I stopped
Is cause it broke my X-Box
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rockies can take the lead in the NL West after LA-COL-LA series
I can see this happening:
COL 88-62
LA 87-63
SF 81-68
IT’S ALL OVER
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
If you are not depressed enough
The US National team is playing like crap against Trinidad & Tobago in World Cup qualifying.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions
T&T are playing well as team right now
Tip your cap and go out there tomorrow
/shoots self
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
T & T
oi
oi
oi
sorry
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 9, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN Classic 407 on Comcast
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s going to be a classic when we get upset by T&T 1-0.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Channel 18 on Comcast.
Spanish only
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmmmm the only place I could find it on DTV was a pay per view thing… maybe I should look again.
There are too many channels!!! [Most of them crappage]
No hay nada.
Fox soccer is showing Saudi Arabia v. Bahrain… but I don’t know, it just doesn’t have the same pull as Mexico v. CR !
On DirecTV it’s showing the news. Apparently there was a hijacking in Mexico today.
However; in other news if I want to I can apparently tune in to “Horny Latin Chicas 4”
My local Telemundo station in SF has “Futbol” and I have Directv.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
Oddly appropriate
Trinidad & Tobago:CONCACAF :: Padres:NL West
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Geography nerd alert
Now I’m trying to think how many countries there are with “and” in their name:
Trinidad and Tobago
Saint Kitt and Nevis
Sao Tome and Principe
Bosnia and Herzegovina
I can’t think of any others.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Four more than I knew.
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I also make music, please check it out
If you don’t know Bosnia, you’re either really young or you really weren’t paying attention in the 90s. :)
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I didn’t realize they put an ‘and’ in there. I just thought it was Bosnia Hertzegovina
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
My Players keep getting older, but the lineups stay the saaaame age
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
St Vincent and the Grenadines
Number one in the category “Country names that sound like 50s rock bands”.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
That's the one I was thinking of
thanks to wasting many productive hours at sporcle.com
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m so good at listing countries now, though!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 5:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
There is big money in that!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Once I get 100% on the Countries of the World, I’m moving on to the capital cities.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 9, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I just did their African countries game after the Giants lost.
Somehow, I got Comoros and Seychelles but missed Mozambique. I don’t know how someone does that.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
For some reason, I always forget one of the Caribbean island nations on the North America quiz. This time it was Antigua and Barbuda (add another one to your list).
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 9, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to spend some time in mozambique
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 5:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hear the sunny sky is aqua blue
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
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The rice people have some new subjects, including geography. What is that site? www.freerice.com ? Something like that.
English Vocabulary is taking me back to SAT prep class.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 9, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to know all the countries in Europe in English and German. That knowledge has long since deteriorated.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I was always fascinated how the name for Germany is completely different in English, French, and German. Germany, Allemagne, and Deutchland. Usually they’re at least somewhat similar.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Also in Italian...
…while the name of the country (Germania) is similar, the German language is “tedesco” and the demonym is “tedeschi”.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Finland
Netherlands
New Zealand
Oh, I’m so wacky
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Heh
Iceland
Ireland
Finland
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Also, where is OLD Zealand, anyway?
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Denmark
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They have no connection whatsoever though.
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Fun Fact
There are two New Scotlands, but neither is called New Scotland.
They’re Nova Scotia and New Caledonia. Scotia and Caledonia are both old names for Scotland.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Appropriately enough, New Zealand used to be called Nova Zeelandia.
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So Nova Scotia means ’Don’t go to Scottland’ ?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
/fist pump
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
It’s actually just known as Zealand.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Holland
Tasman was a Dutch explorer, and he named New Zealand
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Andorra
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 5:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The mom from Bewitched?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, also Turks and Caicos.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
That’s a British territory, I think.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
FREE TURKS AND CAICOS!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Turks and Caicos. Though I think they were recently taken over by the UK.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Dammit. That’s what I get for impatiently posting before reading the replies.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
The United States and America
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
So
That was pathetic. I love how most of the discussion is going to be about the bunt fail (in the media) when it’s pretty obvious we have much bigger problems.
I mean even Jon Miller (and you know I love him) was talking like finding good bunters and situational hitters should be a priority this offseason… Not, you know, finding guys who can actually hit.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
UGH
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
5 HITS AGAINST A GUY NOBODY HAS HEARD OF MIGHT BE THE BIGGER ISSUE, MORONS
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
82 mph fastball!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 5:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
/ ZITO SWOONS
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
NO BUNTS DO NOT BUNT GIVING UP OUTS HAVING A PINCH HITTER BUNT TO GIVE UP AN OUT DOWN BY MORE THAN ONE RUN IT’S ONE DAY ANYONE DIED I GUESS AND NOONE STOPPED TO KISS HIS BUNT SUCK DAMMIT
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Obama staredown of the GOP is funny to watch.
EVERYTHINGS GETTING FIXED TONIGHT FOLKS!!
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bork bork bork fucking idiot bork
“We’re gonna stick with the guys who got us here…” Hey dumbfuck- you HAVEN’T GOTTEN ANYWHERE yet!! What’s more important- putting the best team on the field or petting Bengie’s fragile fucking ego? So fucking lame!
Hey! I like you
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I want the US in the World Cup. I like watching it and having the US there is the only way it is on a non-spanish speaking TV channel.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I want the US to go through too. I don’t mind watching it on Univision though, or whatever the Spanish network is called now. Many times their feed is a little ahead of any US [English speaking] feed.
Nothing like waking up at 4am to watch soccer. We have a dvr this time around so maybe we won’t have to do that this time.
I’ve tried to watch soccer but I just can’t get into it. I hope the US does well but I can’t watch it.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
I’m going to try and catch as much as I can. I’ve become addicted to soccer since the last WC. I can’t wait, just as long as the U.S. doesn’t suck like they did today.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on Sep 9, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I love rooting for the USA, but I hate chanting USA.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
So final NL West standings
Rockies: 102-60
Dodgers: 93-69
Giants: 76-86
Other two teams: Who cares
Sound about right?
Still better than last season lol.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The team that never loses is up 2-0 in the bottom of the 3rd over Cincy.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
I hope they win
so the season can just end already. This is retarded.
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FOOOTBALLLLLL
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S/he meant oblong football…not real football.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
so do I
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Bochy is good
but the Giants are not so good
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
I’ll give Big Head his due. On a squad with a lot of established veteran position players he is quiet good. He seems able to keep things very calm for those type. That would be valubile in a place like NY. Not so much in the 2009-2010 Giants. He has had 3 years to show he will not change or alter anything so he really should be allowed to move on.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
THIS
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i keep seeing “THIS;” is it another McCoven acronym?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
ahh
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Just means "i agree" basically
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c’mon, really. who’s produced in a way that would preclude his removal from the lineup? I was reading about the A’s manager, Geren, talking about Rajai Davis (ouch, ex-Giant), and his comment, basically, was that Davis performed so well that Geren just couldn’t remove him from the lineup.
Who on the Giants could fit that description, besides Pablo?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Bengie and Velez, obv
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The next closest would be Juan Uribe.
Seriously…is there a SS on the team that I do not know about that Uribe has not significantly outperformed? He is a “can’t remove”…by default.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s playing full time—does it have to be ss?
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes plz
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he’s still a role player, ideally (meaning, that’s his greatest value on a better team)
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ask, "Not who has played well enough to not be removed from the line up?" Ask, "Who as played well enough to NOT lose playing time?"
I can name you quite a few position players with over 400 P.A.’s and 900 innings that fail the second test miserably yet miraculously they still get the lion’s share of the playing time. In fact all but one of them (Sandoval) fail this test. Rowand is the next closest but even he should be played a bit less so when he is more likely to produce better when rested enough to be healthy more often.
In short, for club in this stage of development, it is not is the unproven guys are All Stars more if the Older Guys are truly an upgrade and advantage over the rest of the league. If the older guys are not ( as is the case) it time to start going through the spare parts bins – As is obviously not being done.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
CHIASMUS!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Honorable mention to the opposing managers of the last two Rockies series.
The last time the Rockies lost a series is when the Giants swept them at the end of August.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
How can you not watch the game tomorrow?
I am pretty sure the pirouette game is shown tomorrow at 7 pm! Now, that is going to be a competitive and exciting game. It’ll have offense!
ong cincy tied it, should i be excited?
because i’m not
by i wish we were good on Sep 9, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions
Don't know if it's been said yet
But this quote sums it up perfectly:
This season is expecting a $10,000 bonus, actually getting $50,000 but then accidentally setting $25,000 of that on fire.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
That is exactly how I feel about this team.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from the mistakes of others. - Raymond Stone
by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
They MANAGED only five hits! That sounds like blaming Bochy to me!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh ......
This ….. game …… sucked.

But THIS is awesome sick FUCKING EPIC!!!

by orange_and_black_attack on Sep 9, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It’s epic alright.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Reds Tie
Just setting up another walkoff
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
by CB30 on Sep 9, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Reds homer - up 3-2
For now.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Tracy putting in Jason Marquis as pinch runner
Why does this sound familiar?
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
I EFFING HATE THE ROCKIES
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
You, I like.
(And I’m curious about In-n-Out’s vegetarian offerings.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
Grilled Cheese
Everything but the meat. And you must get a strawberry milkshake with it :) Just because it’s PINK!
ps. what does your sig mean?
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
That sounds great (even the strawberry shake, and .... yes... partly because of your reason)
OK, I’m game for the In-n-Out vegetarian experience. I had thought it would be “settling,” but I love grilled cheese.
I first thought you were asking about what my screen name means (season tix in View Box 311 since the ballpark opened, and people in that section tend to ask me about the game, rules, etc., so I’m kind of mayorish…. of a section that is exactly 48 seats in 3 rows).
But then I realized “sig” likely refers to sig line, that Latin bit I’m using this season. It means “Someday, it might be pleasant to look back on this.” From the Aenid by Virgil, it refers to times of tribulation and is sometimes translated as “Perhaps even this will someday be pleasant to look back on.” The thing that drew me to it was once seeing a translation of it to the effect of “Someday, we might look back on this (tribulation, bad stuff) and laugh.” THAT is what I really want to say, and this Latin translation is about as close as I’ve been able to find to that sentiment.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
I discovered the grilled cheese secret menu item by accident. You can’t argue with a pregnancy craving – and I was more than thrilled to discover that they would, in fact, give me a cheeseburger without the burger. You don’t want to mess with a pregnant woman, yo.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
CAN OF CORN!!!
Long time, no ear from you. How have you bean?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Busy, Mr. Mayor, busy. I’ve become one of “those” moms who spend their days driving kids to different schools and shuttling them to their individual soccer practices and making them do homework. It’s an exotic existence.
That, and I was trying to maximize my promotions on CoD:W@W during double XP weekend and also try to master Rock Band. You know, important stuff.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Dang.
Well, take care of yourself. You don’t want to be ground down into flour.
So if you master Rock Band, would that make you Harmony grits?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the View Box
Row A is tough with the bar in your view, though. I had VB302 for Splash Hit 50 and actually saw it land in the water which was really special to me!
And yes, I meant your latin sig line. Wow, that is really beautiful. I remember reading the Aenid in high school. I think that’s a wonderful sentiment and it makes me smile to know that there are other optimists out there.
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
I PREFER it when there's a bar in my view, but that's another story.
Thanks for your comments. My optimism is definitely not of the obvious type; not even fake mayors become fake mayors by being Pollyannian. But under the mordant humor, acid wit, bitterness, and artistic sarcasm, there is an undeniable pulsing optimism. I’m trying to kill it by being a Giants fan, now in my 19th season.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You, I like.
/sorry to copy. Glad we’re friends now :)
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
Seth Smith walk-off single
THE ROCKIES NEVER LOSE
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
and our playoff contenders lose a series to the Padres ...
again, thank God that the 49ers are starting this weekend
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
10-6!
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So you worship some sort of god of bitter disappointment?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Reds.
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How do they seriously never lose?
It is infuriating.
Well, you see, they’re the Cinderella team and every night their fairy godmother waves a wand and says “Bibbidy bobbidy boo”…
(though most Rockies and their fans secretly resent that their fortune is granted by a fairy)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
I think they prefer the term "spaghetti monster in the sky."
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The last inning of that game seemed awfully familiar.
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 9, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions
Good stuff from Baggs - Bochy, Carney, Freddy
Also:
The Dodgers released their probables for the weekend. It’ll be Hiroki Kuroda (vs. Matt Cain) on Friday, Vicente Padilla (vs. Jonathan Sanchez) on Saturday and Chad Billingsley in a no-holds barred cage match (against Brad Penny) on Sunday.
Maybe the Giants should slip Penny a few of Lincecum’s muscle relaxers before that game.
of course someone has to bring up Fred Lewis and how much he sucks in the comments. Fred didn’t even play in this series for crying out loud!
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHH!
WTFUCKINGFUCK. Fuck you Rockies, and Reds, but mostly Rockies.
Zincecaingarnerchez (Zins-ě-keyn-gahrnər-chez)
1. A five-headed monster that turns grown men's legs into jelly.
Meh
Maybe the Rockies winning is for the best. No more “We’re in this thing”. Maybe we’ll actually see Buster Posey…ok we still won’t. But there will be no more pretending.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
“We’re mathematically in this thing!”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That will also be the Warriors’ slogan at the beginning of the season.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, the rockies are pretty much never gonna lose again. gg season, here’s to not having bochy around next year.
FREE BUSTER
by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
just tank the rest of the way so there is no goddamned way we get Bochy back.
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I could give a shit at this point, i’m still rooting for them but right now i’ve lost a good amount of faith :(
This is where I'm at too
TBH my 4 fantasy football teams and the season starting tomorrow have something to do with it, too. The fact that this team is just so fucking moribund doesn’t help. The pitching is great obviously, but the offense and Bochy’s unwillingness to change ruins it.
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AND YOU KNOW WHAT! didn’t mean to post in caps there, but whatever, screw it, we all knew that the giants had no offense whatsoever, not now, not ever, and yet they’re still this good, i’d say 12 games over 500 is pretty damn good. Secondly, yea i’ve lost faith but you know, i’d like to think alot of the people here including myself are passionate fans who hate seeing failure, and that’s what we’ve seen the past week. It’s all part of the game
Could NOT give a shit.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFF
I just realized I have three important games to watch on Saturday that start at almost the exact same time:
Bruins-Vols 1 PM, Giants-Dodgers 1:10 PM, 49ers-Cardinals 1:15 PM
FFFFFFFFFFF
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Oops, I sort of panicked seeing the same time on 3 games, lol.
Yeah, 49ers game is on Sunday.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Make or break (maybe) game.
I hate the Cardinals. It always seems like the 49ers open against them.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is a pretty big game
Seeing as the Cards are picked to win the division, I think a win here is huge.
Last year’s opener, we didn’t do so hot…
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Yes, him and Coffee.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate Davis probably needs a year or two, and he’ll start. Shaun Hill and Alex Smith can’t possibly be the future for 49ers QB’s – I just don’t really see the potential in them.
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Perhaps you should read my thoughts on this subject over at http://www.ninersnation.com
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you’re already signed up on SBNation, so the jump to NinersNation would be really small.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
but…they don’t on SBN.
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Shaun Hill had the NFL’s best QB rating in his first 3-4 games last season. Alex Smith is still a big question mark, though he showed his potential in 2006.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Shaun is CRIMINALLYYYY underrated
what the actual fuck is up with that.
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Criminally? He’s played 10 GAMES. You cannot be underrated when you play 10 games by the time you’re 30 and only look okay.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He was more than "OK"
he was on pace for 4000 yards and 26 TDs. Say he can’t do it over a full season, fine. But he’s not “terrible” whih is what a LOT of people have said.
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I never said he was terrible. I’m just saying that there are A LOT of well-deserved question marks.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, wasn't referring to you specifically
just saying I do not understand the hate he’s been getting. Tony Romo wasn’t always Tony Romo. He was some random undrafted guy for like 5 years until he finally got his shot. Just sayin- nobody really knows what the guy can do. We’ll just have to see. He’s looked good in almost every game he’s started.
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noodle arm… blah blah blah. I just want to see him play a full season. Romo has a pretty damn good team around him that plays better or “played” better than the niners the past few years, and he’s more inconsistent that Hill for sure though
Noodle arm
but he gets results. He just keeps winning, and hopefully that continues this year.
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No, Randy Winn = Isaac Bruce, try to keep up!
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And why does he keep winning? All you have to do is win confidence in your players and have heart, THATS how you keep winning, and every game i’ve watched Shaun Hill play, he has the grit and the intangibles. That’s something Smith hasn’t really had, or has grasped YET
ALL you have to do? Football discussion is very prone to overstatement, not to mention a weird deference to the idea that things like “leadership”, “heart”, “grit”, and other “intangibles” trump everything else.
And I don’t want to get into a discussion on intangibles. They exist. They do. We know this. Opinions on their import vary. No need to drum that up. Sometimes I really just feel like talking about intangibles is an easy way out.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, obviously that’s not “ALL you have to do” but the way i see it, is that having confidence and heart does help you out. I just think much of a QB lies within heart, determination, and confidence. The rest is just skill, Hill doesnt have the best arm in the world, but he makes up for it in accuracy and determination, he wills his team to victory when i watch him play.
The rest is just skill
That’s really a wonderful way to downplay the actual importance of something as unbelievably critical as skill.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Ummm, ok… what else do you have then dude? i mean, you have determination, heart, will, skill, brains, and what else? I’m just an average fan just giving my 2 cents here…
I just think that a lot of the time it’s REALLY EASY to say something like “Shaun Hill has grit and leadership that Alex Smith has never shown!” instead of thinking about the stuff you watched and realizing “Oh, you know what? Shaun Hillt throws higher percentage passes than Smith did, goes through his reads faster, releases the ball sooner, etc., etc.”
I’m NOT saying that heart and grit and whatever aren’t a part of it. But 9 times out of 10 when a person talks about heart, there is actual stuff going on, like, extremely concrete stuff, that explains exactly the same things thay’re trying to “intangible” away.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Extremely agree w/ you here
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THERE YOU GO! That’s what i was looking for instead of a quote from me and nothing explained from it. Now i see what you’re talking about, and look, Alex Smith in my mind has never ever been given a break, with the injury, and the 5 coordinators. When you’re given consistent playing time you get better.
Then there’s more to Hill that we don’t know about that keeps him doing well. With Smith, it’s amazing he’s what, only 25! ANd this year he was finally given somewhat of a fair shot in the preseason
Sorry if I was short with you at first. I think I’ve been through the “intangibles” discussion so many times that I don’t feel like I have to explain myself anymore. But clearly that’s the wrong way to think.
You can, however, read all about my feelings on intangibles over at a FanPost I made on http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/7/14/949836/intangibles.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
ahhh, gotcha, it’s cool dude. Then the question for you dude, is what does someone like Tom Brady have over Shaun Hill? you know? like what are the big factors we have to look at when it comes to QBs?
Well, Tom Brady has a lot of things going for him. Size, strenth, accuraccy. intelligence, decisiveness (I think this is “decision” actually…), great personnel, great coaching, great instincts, experience… I could probably go on.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
haha, maybe that was a bad comparison. Is there any way that the niners then choose yet another QB in next years draft?
Oh absolutely. I think the brilliance of the Nate Davis selection has always been that does nothing to preclude us from drafting another guy next year. There is no such thing as too many options, especially when it comes to a position as important as QB.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
RE: Size
did you know shaun is 6’5? That kinda shocked me when I saw that. He doesn’t look that big when he’s playing.
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by bondslegend on Sep 10, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
That does surprise me a little, too.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
O.M.G
SHAUN HILL = TOM BRADY
SCIENCE!!
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by bondslegend on Sep 10, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't buy the "grit" argument with hill
The difference between him and Smith is that Hill can make a quick throw and smith can’t, at least not right now. Hill can adjust quickly on the fly, and Smith is still figuring that out.
As to skill, Hill doesn’t have as much raw “skill” as Smith or as most NFL QBs, but the skill he has he is able to use better than a LOT of other players. That’s why I think he can handle the position. He won’t destroy other teams, but he won’t make stupid mistakes and he’ll play within himself, which IMO is good enough to win games on a team with a good RB and a fairly decent defense (depending on Lawson and Haralson. And Spencer now_)
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I see we basically agree on this point
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That's a good point
Shaun Hill might just look that bad because the o-line keeps falling apart on him. I think he could improve his pocket presence, though – he really looked unprepared for outside blitzes.
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There are a lot of ways. He’s a 5th round pick who looked decent in exhibition games. Remember how everybody felt about Clayton the last few years? And he’s not even ON the team anymore.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, yea, Nate Davis played decent against backups in exhibition games. And where you’re drafted doesnt mean anything when the guy has a learning issue that doesnt really translate to the NFL, it’s books and studying where he has a problem. That is why he was drafted so low, the problem with learning. He has the best arm on the team, and i do seem as a starter for the niners in 2 years
Where he was drafted DOES mean something.
Contrary to popular belief, NFL scouts are pretty good at scouting quarterbacks. They get a bad rap because there is such a large failure rate overall at the position. But look at the number of starters in the league who were drafted in the first two rounds. It’s OVERWHELMING.
Let me tell you: 18 of the 30 starting quarterbacks in the league were drafted in the FIRST ROUND. 2 in the second. 2 in the 3rd.
So more than 60% of the starting quarterbacks in the league were drafted in the first three rounds, and more than 50% were drafted on the first round ALONE. The scouts know what they’re doing.
I’ve heard it argued that the first-round pick thing is a self-fulfilling prophecy (the idea that early picks are pushed to play and are given more chances, so they get more experience and more chances to succeed, while later picks don’t get the benefit of foregone playing time or extra chances), but I think that only gets you so far.
I never mentioned his learning disability. I do realize that he was scouted higher at some point, too. Even then, though, he was never scouted as a top-tier quarterback. You can see that even being scouted as high as the second round is a bad omen for your future success as a quarterback.
Nate Davis is a longshot. Do not be fooled. Do. Not. Be. Fooled.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No yea, i know you never mentioned his learning disability, i’m just pointing that out as to a reason he wasn’t drafted until the 5th round, just like how he played in the shitty conference, the MAC. I didn’t get the chance to go to see him play my school, Miami Ohio, but he destroyed us. And basically what it sounds like you’re saying is, is that the niners need to draft YET ANOTHER 1st round QB, Bradford’s screwed up his chance right now for this year, and there’s Mccoy, and i believe some kid out of MIchigan? Central or something like that… But anyway, what are the other options out there?
I’m probably being blindsided by the fact that Smith was drafted #1 and that whole experiment was a failure, probably due to the fact he had 5 different coordinators, and screwed up his shoulder. I want to see him be successful, but right now, i just don’t see it, and it kinda breaks my heart
Joe Montana was a 3rd round pick
Tom Brady was a 6th. I’ve just shot down you theory completely
(just kidding)
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Well, my theory is fairly undeveloped in the terms that I laid them out. A 10-year sample would be a lot better, and there should be a much better measure of success than “being a starter” but I need a dirty way to present it that I could figure out in a few minutes.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
the majority of QBs that are good were high picks. But that doesn’t mean that low picks can’t succeed. The deck is certainly stacked against Davis, but he showed 2 things that are uncoachable: arm strength, and the ability to make a quick decision. When you have those 2 things, the rest can be taught to you, it’s just a matter of time.
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First football team to play a game on the West Coast. Also, they were the first professional sports team to break the color barrier for Asians (Wally Yonamine, check it out).
You can read all about this stuff in the 49ers Year-by-Year series over at http://www.ninersnation.com.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but what team was the first amateur pro team?
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Does amateurish count?
’Cause that brings us back to the Raiders.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 10, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not the fact that they beat the 49ers twice last season, it’s how they beat them. Opening game the 49ers seemed to have a great chance to win the game, but the Cardinals took the lead in the 3rd quarter and held the ball the entire 4th quarter. And of course everyone remembers the Monday night game when they were just a yard or two out and DID NOT USE FRANK GORE!
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It's alright.
I’m a big Isaac Bruce fan. Bruce really got on my good side when he was asked why he came back to the 49ers this season instead of retiring: “I want to win another Super Bowl,” which suggests that he really believes the team can win big in the near future…because it’s not like he has 10 seasons of football left.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
this
Bruce is the Randy Winn of football, except he doesn’t suck.
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I know.
It was the difference between one team going to the Super Bowl and the other team watching the postseason.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I was on my knees praying for the niners to win during that final drive and nearly went uptown and started shit
I can’t believe so many people liked him so much for so long.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked him, he was a good player coming out of Penn State, QB/RB kinda like Battle. But he couldn’t transition to the speed of the NFL
He’s good on special teams, but his running has always been very bad.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a valuable player
but should not have been in that game at all.
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At the end I mean
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That was the worst fucking 49er loss I've ever seen live
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Oh, there have been worse ones
but I wasn’t watching when they happened. The playoff game against Tampa was super discouraging, but it was expected. This game was just such a punch in the stomach after the kickoff return, the Morgan TD, the brilliant Shaun Hill helmet losing first down run, to lose it THAT way was so goddamn awful.
FUCK the Cardinals. I fucking hate those shits. I hope Warner gets injured on Sunday.
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Yea dude, that Tampa game was brutal, i’m talking about the game where Roger Craig fumbled the ball against the Giants, or the game where the niners played the Packers in the Playoffs, soooo bad.
Fuck WARNER, and DO NOT SAY HE SHOULD GET INJURED YA JERK! he’s on my fantasy team, with Matt Ryan as a backup
So close.
Could have been the only team ever to win 3 straight Super Bowls. Super Bowls seem incredibly difficult to win even though it is a sport of dynasties.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
I remember going into the 1999 season, everyone was raving about Denver, Atlanta, Minnesota, San Francisco, and Green Bay. No one was talking about St. Louis or Tennessee. Also, heading into the season after that, no one was talking about Baltimore.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't following them during those games
I’m sure they were worse, but in my world the Tards loss is the worst I’ve seen. That shows how pathetic they’ve been since I’ve been paying attention.
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Says Willy Wonka to Violet Beauregarde.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Note to self
Don’t rely on Giants TV schedule that I printed out five months ago.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
6 out of 9
I feel like, at the minimum, we have to win 6 out of the next 9 vs. LA and Colorado to give us a chance at the wild card. Anything less and it’s basically over. Agree/disagree?
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Nine-ish, I’d say.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s going to be up to them," Bochy said. "They’re getting everything they need – information, batting practice. It’s going to take guys getting hot with the bat and getting it done, bottom line."
Maybe if you played the guys who could actually put together some ABs they’d get hot
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
that doesn’t add up
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
GET IT DONE, GIANTS HITTERS
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Poll: If you could pick one of the two (no boths) which one would you rather see fired, Bochy or Sabean?
bochy and i don’t think it’s all that close, he needs to be gone.
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Though most are going with Bochy, I am actually on the fence.
Sure, Bochy picks names out of a hat to decide his daily lineups…but will a new manager be THAT much of a difference if Sabean keeps signing Rowands, Renterias, and Molinas and keeps trading for Winns and Garkos?
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Beyond making sure that the above-named players do not play, there isn’t much a manager can do.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
molina actually turned out to be a pretty good signing, he’s definitely been worth more than we paid for him. he just shouldn’t be batting clean up on a major league team, that doesn’t make him a bad signing.
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard on KNBR or one of those shows at the time of the signing, the host said, “they could have gotten all the Molinas for that price!”
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
also randy had been pretty damn good for us up until this year and even this year his glove has done a lot to make up for his bat. i wouldn’t really call that a bad trade at all, especially when you look at what we gave up to get him. (foppert and torrealba).
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Mostly, our veterans are good players. Just not in the roles we force them to assume.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
other than renteria, he’s just terrible in every way.
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Noodle arm, lack of hustle, lack of range..how exactly is he good at defense?..And don’t give me that he knows how to play the RF wall bullshit
I think TimLincecumisGod is talking mostly about Winn’s 2005 production, when he hit .359-14-26 in just 58 games after the Giants traded for him. He helped the Giants stay alive in what was possibly the worst pennant race in history.
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
and that he was good in 2007 and very good in 2008 (2.7 and 4.5 WAR. respectively) and well worth what we paid him.
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m going with the fact that he’s been the 3rd best RF in the majors this year by UZR. obviously it’s pretty tough to statistically define defense, but UZR is one of the best stats we have to do it.
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
so what do you use to quantify defense then? or do you just go by what you see?
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Just using a statistic because that’s the only one doesn’t make it a good one. No I don’t base things only on what I see but if you utilize only objective techniques you’re doomed to failure as well (look at the A’s).
I don’t know. The A’s did pretty darn well for a long time.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m not saying that UZR is the end all, and i already stated that pretty much all defensive metrics are flawed in some way. still i think that other than him not having a good arm you’re very much underrating him as a defender. he is very sure-handed and has pretty decent range. i also don’t really see where he lacks hustle, i’ve definitely never noticed him giving up on balls.
also despite you saying it’s bullshit, he does play balls off that right field wall pretty well.
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to get back into UZR but to me it rewards caution to frequently..Fuck it loves JD Drew..That’s my problem with Winn he makes the safe play all the TIME..Nate takes more risks cuz he has a cannon so of course his statistical metrics are going to be worse. Ex: Ecstein has a double easily today in the ninth if Winn’s in right.
but doesn’t UZR take range into account? wouldn’t that account for winn taking the “safe” play because he’s getting to less balls?
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by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 9, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But UZR LOVES Nate.
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It was a typo. He lacks hustle and flow.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s ok, just not a front line player.
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Winn has rather excellent range.
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Don't just use those fucking stats to back you up because theyre bullshit
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Somebody needs to be forced to watch a week’s worth of Moises Alou defensive “highlights”, then come back and talk to me about Randy Winn’s range.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Speaking of Alou in the field...
How much worse was Steve Bartman’s life made by Alou throwing his glove down and acting the douche instead of putting his head down and jogging back to his position?
Along this same line of thinking, wouldn’t acting like an adult right then have helped the mindset of his teammates (specifically Mark Prior and Alex Gonzalez)? Who knows, maybe Kyle “Guaranteed Loss” Farnsworth never would’ve had to enter the game in the first place.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 10, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
if your hands always smelled like pee, you would anger pretty easily too.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I don't remember well these days...
…but the look on Moistness’ face as he realized what had just happened is forever etched.
Kind of an “aw , CRAP.” Only with some real ugly contortions to it.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
picking them out of a hat would be an improvement
in all seriousness… at least Winn, Rowand, etc wouldn’t automatically run out every game, and Nate, NotProblem, et. al. wouldn’t have spent so much time in the doghouse during the year.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean; he’s had his share of opportunities
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh if the you believe the famous Vinny Castilla story Sabean just builds the roster and Bochys the one who drives it. And Bochy’s driving this clunker right off a cliff
He can't drive a shift
and Molina cut the brakes
by Hoist That Rag on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean
new GM would want a new manager anyway, so it’d be Win Win Win.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy. I can deal with Sabean’s mistakes, I can’t deal with Bochy’s mistakes any longer.
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+1
the team as presently constructed could be doing better if the right players were playing.
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Agreed.
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabean for sure. If he didn’t like the lineups Bochy’s putting out there he should put different players on the roster. Also, much as I disagree with Bochy sometimes, every manager drives you crazy some of the time. Bochy’s lineups are terrible, but his bullpen management is pretty good. I don’t know, it could be worse.
But Sabean… How do you end up with an entire team that only has one regular player (no, I’m NOT counting Fred, since he doesn’t play) with an above-average OBP? That’s just criminally inept.
Um
if Bochy took Molina out of the cleanup spot and played Nate and Bowker everyday, this team would be better immediately. Bochy has not done this for like 2 straight weeks. So..yeah. That is his fault. There are better players on the roster that he simply isn’t playing.
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That's easy...
Sabean. For two reasons:
1) LACK OF OFFENSIVE TALENT — We all (myself included) love to rip on Bochy for his borked-out managerial moves. But the truth is, with the pathetic group of position players Sabean has assembled, Bochy is frequently faced with making either a bad choice or a stupid one (yes, with"stupid choice" often winning out). Let’s take the eighth inning of yesterday’s game as an example. Bochy sends up Kevin Frandsen to bunt. Probably about the stupidest move he could’ve made, IMO, for reasons we’ve already gone over. But what were his other choices? Have Frandsen swing away (hello DP, possibly TP)? Bat Aurilia, Garko, Ishikawa or Fred Lewis? I’d like to have seen Bochy go with one of the latter two, and just let them swing away. But I frankly wouldn’t have had a lot of hope that any of those moves (or any other moves) would’ve yielded anything significantly different from what we got. It’s like being attacked by a grizzly, and having to choose from an array of table knives and a couple dull steak knives to fight him off. Pick whoever you think is the best manager in all of MLB today, and give him the same roster of offensive talent that Sabean has bestowed upon Bochy, and I don’t think the Giants win three more games than they have won this year. Managers don’t win games, players win games. And the Giants just don’t have the players.
2) FIGHT THE REAL POWER — Let’s face it, Sabean is not going to fire Bochy. Bochy is a man after Sabes’ own heart. That’s why he hired him. If you really want to get rid of Bochy, you HAVE to get rid of Sabean. Get rid of Sabean, bring in someone who actually knows how to evaluate offensive talent, and who has the courage, the baseball knowledge and the energy to not just settle for the status quo of endless years of Bengie batting cleanup, of paying tens of millions for mediocrities like Rowand and Rent, who don’t bring the kind of real offensive production the Giants need, and things will change in a dramatic way. I mean, does anyone think a GM worth his salt would keep a guy like Bochy around for even a second? Get rid of Sabean, and you get rid of Bochy. Guaranteed.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
kevin towers is a pretty good gm
or at least isn’t totally clueless. Didn’t he keep Bochy around awhile?
No matter what, the GM should probably keep a tighter rein on the manager than he does. Billy Beane very definitely sees the manager as his employee. Not sure that other GMs work this way, and perhaps they cannot due to ownership issues, etc.
A new GM will want his own guy
I shouldn’t have used the word “guaranteed”, because strange things do happen. But I can’t imagine a new GM coming in and keeping Bochy. And even then…even if he did, I’d still much rather be rid of Sabean than Bochy, because players have a lot more to do with winning games than managers do. And the type of GM a team has determines the type of players they have.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Dan Haren
has the same OBA as Bengie Molina…that’s right, our cleanup hitter.
hahahaha…god he sucks.
Even ignoring the OBP and going straight to the power.
Based on SLG, the following players are better qualified to hit 4th:
Pablo Sandoval
Juan Uribe
Andres Torres!!!
Aaron Rowand
Eugenio Velez!!!
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by RaymondStone.com on Sep 9, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Randy Wolf has elbow inflammation which is why he’s not pitching on Friday.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/09/09/wolf.dodgers.ap/index.html
CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!
ah, yes, the dreaded flaming elbow
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 9, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Bruce Bochy fucking eats one of these tonight

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lol @ dodgers... if dbacks don't score.. i swear :)
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The D’Backs are chanting, “Beat LA”
3-3 tie, runners on the corners, 1 out
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might be bases loaded, 1 out
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After a sac bunt put a man on 3rd with 1 out, the Dodgers walked Reynolds and Upton to create the force at home.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm hating rockies more than the dodgers right now.. i don't knwo why =(
i’m bad @ being a giants fan =/
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
no, you definitely should be
hating the Rockies more right now!
And yes, bases loaded now, bottom 9th
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
I have never heard of anybody loving Brandon Phillips before….hmm, I don’t know why that seems weird to me.
I like him
because he’s helped my POKEMONZ this year
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Me too. And I actually hear he's a really nice guy.
However, as my pokemonz have tanked, and his inept buffoonery last night helped my real team tank, too…
the enmity is warranted.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 10, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
lol dodgers lose to a bases loaded walk... i'll take it -_-
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
Dbags win; Rockies now within 2.5 games of the West lead
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
wow
who exactly are we chasing for the wc?
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
we'll see after this weekend =/
hope it’s not nobody..
If my head is full of white hairs by the end of this season.. I blame Brian Wilson. (I'm only 22, dammit!)
for the water closet?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I havn’t heard the term Water Closet used since when I was in Taiwan, 18 years ago.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Since I been unimployde
i dont heer it as much as I’d prefer to.
Some paradigms , jeez…
I guess BORK spans a whole lot more than just things Bochy.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually meant
Wang Chung.
Everybody Have Fun Tonight!
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
win
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
uh that was random
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/punches you in the face
PSYCH BEEYATCH
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
/punches you in the face
PSYCH BEEYATCH
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I totally misread the word “kick” there…
by The Double Deuce on Sep 10, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice save. Yeah.
Hey- are you going to the game next Wednesday?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
me?
I can’t follow this thread and I want the boys to stop fighting!
I am going to the Saturday Dodgers game and then again on the 26th against the Cubbies. I always bring a sign with me and was asking for ideas for Saturday’s game. The best the McCoven came up with was, “We’re in this thing!* *mathematically”
“Beat LA” is tired. I need something witty! A friend suggested “Free Buster Posey” but I like Molina too much to do that. /ducks
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
yes.
Want to go?
I kind of like the “We’re in this thing…mathematically” slogan. How about “The Giants Simplified Calendar: Every Day is Veteran’s Day.”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Veteran's Day, lol!
Thanks but Wednesday doesn’t work for me. I hope you can bring your broom to that game, though.
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
Sweep? You think?
or is that just your natural optimism?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't bury it
When I visualize the Dodgers and Rockies series, I feel that we will sweep them.
I’m actually shocked when we lose. Pollyanna syndrome?
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
Awwwww.
No, not Pollyannian at all. It’s sweet optimism and it’s what the whole poetry of baseball is about (versus pure stats)— its promise of hope and the theoretical promise of unlimited opportunity until the final out is…. is….
Hold it. Sweeping the rockies twice in 3 weeks? Yeah, that’s Pollyanna!
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers Lose Nail Biter!
can we have some dancing cats, please?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I misread "Nail" as "Pillow"
and thought they’d lost Casey Blake.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanna go home
/is home
/dies
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions
"He is survived by several kinds of cereal, and will be laid to rest with warmed chocolate bars and marshmallows."
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
very nicely done
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
by natteringnabob on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The World Series
What matchup do you want to see the most in the 2009 World Series, and what matchup do you want to see the least?
For me:
Most want to see: Giants vs. Angels. Payback for 2002. I know, they’re not the easiest matchup, but they have suspect pitching and it would be nice closure. Of course, we have to get in the playoffs first – we only have to win 100% of our games from now on.
Least want to see: Bums vs. Yankees. This really needs no explanation.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
This is a great time in the season to recognize
how fortunate we all are. I never dreamed I would get to see so many future hall of famers and Cy Young winners pitch. It’s been just great this season, and my hat is off to all of them, particularly today’s star of the future, Matt LeBlanc. His devastating fastball was totally unbuntable.
What a season! How great to see so many opposing pitchers, and all the wonderful memories made!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"Waaaaah!"-Bengie Molina
But he'll be known as "Joey Tribbiani" for the rest of time.
Very wealthy, but career over.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Since I didn't get a chance to post them
here are the other Zito pictures I was planning to use.


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by Natto on Sep 9, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"Toe the Rubber Soul"
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn you're good
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I had no idea Neil Young was a Beatle.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 3:05 AM PDT up reply actions
GAME TIME CHANGE
The Saturday, September 26 game vs. Chicago has been moved from a 6:05 PM start to a 1:10 PM start to accommodate FOX. Unfortunately for you New Yorkers, you won’t get that game as FOX has chosen Red Sox at Yankees as the other game.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/broadcasts/national.jsp
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
It should be noted that, as of right now, the Giants have 7 games (most) listed for MLB Net, ESPN, FOX and TBS. Dodgers and Red Sox have 4, Yankees have 3. This does not take into account any added games for MLB Net, which adds games a week ahead of time.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
oh no
thanks for posting this. I have tickets to this game. 1:10pm doesn’t work as well as 6:05p for me…..
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
The idiots on KNBR (who I normally like) can’t shut up about Frandsen’s bunt attempt. What is with the bunt obsession? Even if he’d gotten the bunt down, the next 2 batters got out. I know Frandsen is lame, but to keep blaming him for the loss is absurd.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 10, 2009 8:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I really think it’s great that on a team that is among the worst in the league when it comes to making outs unintentionally, so many people are complaining about the fact that they failed to execute making an out intentionally.
How about this: if your team’s biggest problem is making outs, and ESPECIALLY after the pitcher just walked two consecutive batters, it might not be a good idea to spot the other team a free out. Maybe you should actually try to hit sometime.
There is nothing I hate more than taking the bat out of a batter’s hands. GRRRR.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
And, as we know, the Giants don’t have a problem with “productive” outs. It’s executing after that to actually get the runner home that’s the problem. Laying down a perfect bunt every inning won’t fix this team. I don’t understand the media fixation with bunts.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 10, 2009 8:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
On the other hand, the hitters hands going batless aren’t exactly Ruthian (with one notable exception) and it would have put the tying run in scoring position with one out… I don’t know what he probabilities are, but trying to trade the tying run at first with no outs for the tying run at second with one out doesn’t seem to be the most terrible thing to have been done in that game.
To explain the obsession with failed bunts – I think this team just isn’t talented offensively and while it’s pointless to be bitter about them failing to do what they aren’t capable of, successfully putting down a bunt is something a professional baseball player should be capable of.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with bunting in that situation. Given a different offense, I might feel differently, but given our offense, trying to manufacture runs without hits (a bunt and a sac fly gets us to within a run) should be something we consider whenever the chance presents itself.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
I disagree for my previous “giving up free outs when you’re one of the most likely teams to make not-free outs in the league” reasoning.
Playing for one run in a two run game is weaksauce, in my opinion. And yes, even putting two runners in “scoring position” is playing for one run as far as I’m concerned when you’re giving away free outs to it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you back that up with numbers? Cuz bondslegend is gonna go off on you if not.
Seriously though, I’m pretty meh on that particular decision absent conclusive evidence… I wasn’t pissed about it, but I wasn’t really cheering it either. I just can see the argument for putting the tying run on second in the late innings at home.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t back it up with numbers, which is why I was careful to use phrases like “in my opinion” and “as far as I’m concerned”. Of course, if I do see numbers to the contrary, I will strongly reconsider my opinion. In this particular case, I think I’m less inflamed by the bunt call itself in that GENERAL situation (because, yes, I can see the thought process behind it when you’re down by two with two runners on and no outs, even if I disagree philosophically), and more inflamed by two other things.
1) The decision to keep the bunt on in a 3-1 count against a pitcher who couldn’t find the strike zone if you pointed at it and told him, “It’s right there. Look. Right there. This whole area, that’s the strike zone. You can stop looking for it because here it is. Look. Hey, I said look. What the hell, man? Why are you looking over there? Look where my finger is pointing. See? Finger. Strike Zone. Here. Do you see? Do you see it now? Seriously, it’s right here. Maybe if you took a few steps in this direction? No, no, this direction. Okay, wait. I’ll walk you over there. Just follow my lead. Where are you going? Oh, Jesus Christ….”
2) The near universal reaction that it was the failed bunt that we need to be mad about. 100 things gone wrong in that game, and it was a play that left two runners on base with one out that ruined the whole thing.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, I reaaaaaaaaaaaaally don’t like bunting.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The near universal reaction that it was the failed bunt that we need to be mad about. 100 things gone wrong in that game, and it was a play that left two runners on base with one out that ruined the whole thing.
This was my original point. For media types to be saying that Kevin Frandsen’s failed bunt is going to be remembered for a long time as being some turning point in the season is ABSURD.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
You are right. Completely.
HowTheyScored is also right.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 10, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The turning point meme is definitely absurd.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand your point about the wisdom of calling a bunt… I don’t feel as strongly about it as you though.
You are going to have to realize that if the manager calls for a bunt, people will expect the player to execute that play, good idea or not… the expectation is for professionals to execute.
I think it requires a pretty sophisticated understanding to make the argument you’re making and sophisticated understanding is a rare commodity, especially in the media. Which is one of the things that makes MCC so interesting…
Like I said, I’m not justifying the reaction so much as explaining why it is happening… it is understandable.
Just kidding about the demand for numbers. Not only is it ironic for me to demand numbers when I myself am supplying none, but it’s also in reference to the dogpiles around here demanding numbers from people who cite experience as their guide.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
successfully putting down a bunt is something a professional baseball player should be capable of.
So is getting on base 32% of the time.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Hitting and bunting are different skills… you can be unable to hit and still, through practice, be competent at bunting. But I was trying to explain the obsession with failed bunts rather than justify it.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
According to this chart at tangotiger, run expectancy with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs is 1.573. That run expectancy is lowered to 1.467 with runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out. The difference isn’t really worth the debate, but it is interesting nonetheless.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But wouldn’t the expectancy need to factor in how good or bad (or wosre than bad in the 09 G’s case) an offense is? Our’s is so epicly bad that those numbers, and the difference between them, are likely to be off a bit (or more).
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
The expectancy, I believe, is for a league-average hitter. So bleh on us
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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I think late in a close game, with a good pitching staff, bunting runners over to second and third is a good play (probably score fewer runs, but more often). After the count has run to 3-1, it’s just insane.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
But you don’t have to bunt at ball 4… if the pitcher is willing to give you that base for free, you can still take it.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
But a hitter’s odds of getting on base go up a lot with a 3-1 count. Unless it’s a pitcher hitting, going into take or rake mode makes the most sense.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I see that it might be sub-optimal, but it doesn’t rise to the level of insane…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That is interesting… Not exactly applicable as I’m mainly only interested in the second run. The Giants scoring in two consecutive innings is too much to ask..
Still, something to think on.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to know why was he still trying to bunt with a three and one count? At that point, an out is a goddamn gift to a pitcher struggling to throw strikes.
Every single time I’ve listened to KNBR in the last two weeks, someone has called in about bunting.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
That’s what pissed me off the most: bunting on a 3-1 count.
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The only possibility is Fran was intentionally trying to send a fuck you to Sabean since his (Frandsen’s) career was probably over anyhow.
“Shut up and do your job.”
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he stepped out and took signs before that last bunt attempt.
You know what that means.
BORK!
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Oh for sure that had BORK written all over it but I don’t think anyone understands why you’d bunt there and trying to make sense of it doesn’t work.
Thanks like when Zito came up with bases loaded a few weeks ago and instead of just standing there and taking pitches, he goes up there hacks away.. right into a double play to end the inning. Settle down, Babe Ruth.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, thank you.
Listening to KNBR on the ride home makes me miss sanity.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I haven’t heard any of those besides a few clips. I can believe that they are pretty darn good.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 10, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And, of course, Murph says, “I mean, it was the right call, but Frandsen couldn’t get it down.” Fail.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 10, 2009 8:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Especially after the pitcher had just WALKED THE TWO PREVIOUS BATTERS!
Dammit. I was fuming after that. Not blaming Frandsen for not getting the damn bunt down, but because it was a stupid idea in the first place.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 10, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I hereby resign from the “Bochy is Just As Annoying as Every Other Manager Club.” I think I was the last hold out anyway.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Hi Murph & Mack
Dropping our crackpot Bochy/Posey conspiracy theories on the air this morning.
It’s funny ‘cause it’s true.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
Murph actually namedropped McCoveyChronicles!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
also, hi Ostler!
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/10/SP2L19KQ8Q.DTL
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
/adjusts foil hat
I really am beginning to think that Sabean already knows he’s not coming back next year and has started the clocks of Buster and MadBum early as a last-licks “fuck you” to Nukin’ Neukom. I mean what better way to do so than to cost the team millions down the road and/or a season of play in a Giants uniform?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 10, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions
You know, that thought had occurred to me as well. Although you’d have to believe that if Sabean was really sabotaging the Giants long term in a “fit of pique” (I love that expression), Neukom would retaliate by making his name mud and making sure he never got another GM job again.
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
Nah
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I think this would be a disastrous move on his part, personally
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Yeah, really
Baseball is a very small town at the ownership level. Doing something like that would be a good way to end your career.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 10, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
But since there are (semi-)rational reasons for bringing them up this year, how could Duke prove that Sabez brought them up for anything but the good of the franchise? Meanwhile, in his blackest, most shriveled, two-sizes-too-small heart of hearts, Sabez is cackling gleefully with fingers steepled Mr. Burns-stylee.
Remember, this is the foil hat talking. I find it profoundly unlikely. I’m just playing devil’s advocate here. Because conspiracy theories are fun.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 10, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not your fuck you, eat me.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Randy Wolf to miss start
Instead, the Dodgers will start Hiroki Kuroda on Friday night, Vicente Padilla on Saturday and Chad Billingsley in the finale.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4459966
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
It won’t really matter since whoever they throw out will pitch a CGSO anyway.
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That Gonzalez photo reminds me of this

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More like musical arms.
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/kinda liked Klesko for moments like this
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by bondslegend on Sep 10, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
he was a good value signing
I love $1M or less scrapheap pickups.
He kinda sucked as a Giant
but it was still a decent signing.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 10, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
This was on Klesko’s one splash hit, yet?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
It's on the road, sooo..
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by bondslegend on Sep 10, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
didn’t even notice the uni
t’was too distracted by the O face
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I WANT SOME TOO
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
is this a metaphor for the Giants?
I liked that movie, then all of a sudden THAT happened.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
With the death of John Hughes
and the absence of Savage Steve Holland, who makes movies like this anymore?
Do they exist and I am just missing them?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
I feel like Judd Apatow is a potty-mouthed John Hughes for middle-aged dudes, but that’s the closest we get.
/here comes the Apatow backlash
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
This is pretty much what I was thinking.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Just cause they’re both comedy writers? Different styles, Different demographics. Weather you like Apatow or not, I don’t think that they are very similar, aside from being successful.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
They aren’t dopplegangers, for sure. But I think say, Freaks and Geeks, borrows as much from Hughes as it reacts against him.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Ah yeah, some of the earlier stuff. I can see that. Never watched much of that show. I was referring to the late 20s/early 30s demographic movies he has done lately.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I think maybe Amy Heckerling comes closest to filling this niche. Although her attempts seem a bit superficial at times. “Fast Times” and “Johnny Dangerously” were great. “Loser” and “Clueless” were uneven.
Perhaps this is a type of movie that isn’t popular anymore? I don’t know, but I do miss them.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, not too many directors/writers are really nailing the coming of age story the was Hughes did.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I just watched Uncle Buck a few nights ago, great movie. For whatever reason, I’ve been on a John Candy kick lately. Watched The Great Outdoors this week and I just got Planes, Trains, and Automobiles via Netflix.
Uncle Buck! It’s been a while. Need to rent that again.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Ever see 'The Silent Partner' with Elliott Gould & Christopher Plummer?
GREAT suspense film, late 1970s, made in Toronto. John Candy has a supporting role. I wonder if he intended to be a regular (i.e., not necessarily comedic) actor, and then SCTV happened. If you like suspenseful cat-and-mouse movies, it’s a great one.
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 10, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
most ridiculous scene
in a comedy about suicide ever
but he had Eddie’s guitar even! It’s genius!
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
What movie is this?
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by bondslegend on Sep 10, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Better Off Dead staring John Cusack. Classic 80-ness
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Say Anything
is the best Cusack 80’s movie.
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
I like that movie, but I am partial to Better off Dead, personally.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Cameron Crowe is another writer/director that could fill the Hughes/Holland niche. “Fast Times” was based on his book, and “Singles” in addition to “Say Anything” were OK movies. “Almost Famous” was a great movie.
And then he fucks it all up by making “Jerry Maguire”. Maybe it is my Tom Cruise hate poisoning my opinion on this though.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
John Cusack is the worst
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by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
unpossible.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm sorry.
That’s the wrong answer. Thanks for playing and we’ll send you away with the home edition of our game.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 10, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, this isn’t true.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame zodiac_chiller
Blame for what, I haven’t figured out yet, but I’m sure he’s jinxed something.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 10, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
YOR THE WORSETS
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by ringleader3 on Sep 10, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer Joan Cusack, but there’s nothing inherently wrong with John.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 10, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
She was great in Addams Family Values! Her monologue (complete with slideshow!) while everyone was sitting in electric charis was hilarious.
“BUT WHAT ABOUT DEBBIE?!”
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont really have an opinion
But I’ll dogpile with the rest
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SCIENCE
Geez settle down guys. Touched a nerve here.
His interview on knbr last year only confirmed my opinion.
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by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you – my wife LURVES that guy, and because of it I had to sit through Pushing Tin (among others), so I so have a certain bitterness toward him. This does not extend to Joan.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I will NOT have you badmouthing 'Pushing Tin,' Sir.
Sure, it was poorly written, poorly cast despite very good actors, dull, edited by a random number generator… but Angelina Jolie’s loveliness redeems it completely.
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 10, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
perusing his IMDB page, can’t stand by any of these really. I’ll give you Better Off Dead and Say Anything as sad-sack coming-of-age films, and some of the scenes is High Fidelity but..
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000131/
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by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He was excellent in Gross Pointe Blank. In particular, the scenes with Dan Akroyd. Their styles worked together really well.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 10, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah actually I enjoyed that film
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by zodiac_chiller on Sep 10, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I must concede that point.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 10, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t watch the follow up though: War, inc.
However, Hot Tub Time Machine looks like it will be epic.
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Eight Men Out is my favorite baseball movie. I liked Cusack a lot as Buck Weaver.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Loved this scene...
You get out there, and the stands are full and everybody’s cheerin’. It’s like everybody in the world come to see you. And inside of that there’s the players, they’re yakkin’ it up. The pitcher throws and you look for that pill… suddenly there’s nothing else in the ballpark but you and it. Sometimes, when you feel right, there’s a groove there, and the bat just eases into it and meets that ball. When the bat meets that ball and you feel that ball just give, you know it’s going to go a long way. Damn, if you don’t feel like you’re going to live forever.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Not 80’s
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Oyez.
"I don’t want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don’t want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don’t want to do that. "
As an added bonus – John Mahoney (If’n you’re a John Mahoney fan.)
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions

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