Pre-Game Poll and Comment Starter
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 8:20 AM PDT
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Juan Uribe deserves to be in the starting lineup. I don't believe in hot streaks -- rather, I don't believe that you can tell the difference between a genuine hot streak and a statistical fluke, you arrogant jerk -- but Uribe's had a pretty consistent year, and he gives the Giants a semi-legit power threat. If you're a BABIP believer, it's worth noting that Uribe has had a sub-.300 BABIP for the past three years. Poor luck, or the result of ejecting vertebrae with every swing? Probably the latter, but Uribe's played his way into the lineup with the '09 Giants. So did you, but you had that dinner thing.
So how to get Uribe in the lineup? Vote in the poll!
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Boo no non-rent scenario!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I tried to put one in, and it crashed my computer.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you get your hands on Bochys Lineup Generator?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Borkalator 2009!
It’s like Awesomo but with Renteria!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome name
I am calling my automated McC thread generator the Borkalator 9000!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure that you want to permanently delete the file Posey.exe? Y / N
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You have selected ‘Yes’ Posey.exe will now be deleted.”
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Souldn’t have left the dippy bird alone at the keyboard.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite episodes.
/Homer tries to dial 911
Operator: “Your fingers are too fat to dial on this phone. If this is an emergency please mash the buttons.”
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where’s my tab?
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posey.exe has been deleted.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
File deleted. Thank you for your contribution!
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this was kind of the obvious response, huh?
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by EliminateMe on Sep 9, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the response I was setting up for, yes. The McCoven is one.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 9, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/Attempts to insert Posey as starting catcher
Borkalator 9000 (in HAL voice): “I’m afraid I can’t let you do that.”
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BORKAMANIA!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Why don’t you take a stress pill and think it over”
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see, for the past 30 days,
Edgar is: .293 .356 .446
Ishi: .180 .281 .340
Garko: .237 .250 .390
Uribe .288 .363 .688
Now, Grant is correct in that streaks are hard to predict. In Renteria’s case however, it coincides with getting healthy. I think you have to play Edgar.
Just for fun,
Velez: .246 .312 .404
Schierholtz .200 .247 .369
Rowand .270 .323 .461
Randy Winn 267 .312 .337
by joethejet on Sep 9, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see, for the past 30 days,
Edgar is: .293 .356 .446
Ishi: .180 .281 .340
Garko: .237 .250 .390
Uribe .288 .363 .688
Now, Grant is correct in that streaks are hard to predict. In Renteria’s case however, it coincides with getting healthy. I think you have to play Edgar.
Just for fun,
Velez: .246 .312 .404
Schierholtz .200 .247 .369
Rowand .270 .323 .461
Randy Winn 267 .312 .337
by joethejet on Sep 9, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1B Garko/Ishikawa
2B Sanchez
SS Uribe
3B Sandoval
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No. Read the choices again. They’re very clear.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But . . .no Bocock option?
Or Conor Gillaspie? Or Rohlinger? Not enough choices!
Fulfilling your Gus Benusa needs since 2009!
by Giantsfan4life on Sep 9, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You raise a good point.
Why is Brian Bocock?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how this is even a question. This should be the infield lineup every day.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't even put Ishi in there
The ways he’s played, Garko would be my starting 1B.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
by GiantPain on Sep 9, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Ishi = late inning defensive replacement
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 9, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With “late” being sometime later than the sixth inning, plz.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko can’t hit RHP. Neither can Ishikawa, but at least he can field.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking of adding this to my signature.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, you keep saying this and he keeps having a sOPS+ of over 100 against RHP for his career (I mean, bb-ref doesn’t seem to have sOPS+ for career, but he’s at 99 for this year for a .720 OPS so I’m guessing .757 would be like 102-105. I could do the math but…) He doesn’t hit them as well as he does lefties and he probably isn’t an above-average 1B against them, but it’s not like he’s completely worthless as a hitter against them.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sOPS+ is positional OPS+ right? I was trying to find this a bit ago but couldn’t on bbref. Where am I looking wrong?
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sOPS+ is split OPS+, the numbers from the split compared to the league average for them.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, so positional OPS+ is what, and where can I find it? OPS of a player compared to the average player at that position?
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think so. I guess to find that you would look at their splits as 1B, etc and look at the sOPS+?
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sOPS+ is based on various splits. Position, pitcher handedness, etc. It depends on what split you’re looking at. Just check the various split sections on BB-Ref.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if I’m looking correctly at Ishikawa his OPS+ compared to other 1B is 68 for his career, right?
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLSHIKAWA
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not career, but for 2009. His sOPS+ for his position (meaning that a score of 100 indicates he hits like a league average first baseman) is currently at 68 — meaning that the league average 1B is 32% better, offensively, than Ishikawa this year.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if he’s the answer at first base, you guys.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psssh
You can use stats to prove anything.
(yeah, he sucks)
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say, if he’s really a +10 run first baesman, it takes the sting out of his offensive problems, a little bit. But he’s probably closer to a +5 run defender than +10 runs.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OGC is totally gonna 10-paragraph you
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by groug on Sep 9, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, maybe I went to this year’s split then. But at least I know it.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO JOES!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A .750 OPS from 1B is not good. Maybe “he can’t hit them” is too far, but he’s easily replaceable against RHP.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t disagree with that, but in the offensive context of the Giants, it’s not terrible.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we gave up a young pitcher for him, right??
GRRRRRRRRR ANGER
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/madbum face
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think I favor Ishikawa against RHP over Garko. Offensively, it’s pretty much a wash. Garko is probably better than Ishikawa against RHP by a few runs, but Ishikawa is probably better than Garko in the field by 5 runs or more.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I do still think a platoon is the best option. But I think saying “GARKO CAN’T HIT RHP!” is an exaggeration.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll kindly thank you to leave me to my hyperbole.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can pry my hyperbole from my cold dead hands!
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can pry Mr. F’s hyper-mole from his cold dead face.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s correct but there’s still not a big difference between he and Ishikawa at the plate with a righthander on the mound.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to vote for Mr. F playing shallow center, and it gave my vote to option #4. Am I a Florida voter?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phew, I picked the right one.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really, seriously, the difference is between Renteria and Garkikawa offensively, and
Uribe and Renteria defensively. An easy call, unless you’re Bruce Bochy. And btw, haven’t seen much MCC love to Sabes. Uribe, he pulled out of a scrap heap. Velez is a Rule 5 acquisition. Sabes’ big FA signings, he overpays for mediocrity. But he’s pretty good at finding free talent.
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by Giantsfan4life on Sep 9, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uribe has been pretty good defensively at all three positions he’s played this year, iirc.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Proud to say that I defended Uribe early and often. Just ignore the Aurilia support in that link, and we’ll be fine.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol me
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/4/26/855461/pet-peeves-the-everyone-else#14876221
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Sep 9, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio Romo is a guy many organizations would not have taken a flyer on.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would have been up three years ago if he were in the Padres’ organization.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s because there is no love for Sabes.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But for every Juan Uribe, there’s a Joe Castle.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel a song coming on...
…“Life brings you joy, and life brings you hassle;
for every Uribe, there comes a Joe Castle.”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 9, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had one of those Optimism Poster Sayings pop in my brain
Something like: “When life give you lemons…”
“When life give you Joe Castle, kick him in the nuts and sign Juan Uribe!”
You know, something sweet and tender like that.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
卡斯提!!!
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want a picture of him running around with two korean players in transformer masks
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taiwan, not Korea, but here it is
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I saw in that post was “sweet and tender nuts”
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIES!
I HAVEN’T SHOWN YOU…err….nevermind
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not that what you said isn’t true, I was going to correct your post with the spanish version of Joe Castle
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty I have two answers.
1) If Pablo is 90-100%, then play him at third and Uribe at SS
2) If Pablo is less than 90% healthy, stick him at 1st and Uribe at 3rd
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I choose this option
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Sep 9, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I choo-choo-choose it.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying that Uribe could play RF with Sandoval at 1B, Aurilia at 3B, Velez at 2B, and Torres in LF? Of course, Renteria would have to bat second in this lineup, but as far as I’m concerned that’s paid stretch money right there.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No! Schierholtz at…..dammit I don’t even have the energy to do that bit.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CBS Sports Power Ranking Saiz Hai!!!!
That’s why I need to view or attend as many Giants games as humanly possible. After watching the team over the last week, I’m convinced that skipper Bruce Bochy is either betting against his own team or suffering from some sort of neurological impairment.
I don’t understand the batting orders, which fluctuate wildly from one day to the next and rarely take into account things like on-base percentage. I don’t understand his bullpen management, which combines the ride-your-horses sadism of Joe Torre’s approach with the I-could-care-less surrender of Lou Piniella’s. I really, really, really don’t understand the decision to keep the organization’s most capable backstop, Buster Posey, stapled to the bench at a time when the Giants lack anything resembling a coherent offense.
So for the sake of this column, let’s keep the Giants winning and let’s keep Bochy pushing the buttons. Without him, I’m nothing.
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
fanshot
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Sep 9, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he dead?
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but only because nobody noticed him.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how is it, with all the vitriol and frustration and venting here on McC, that Bengie’s blog has nothing but slobber for his knob in the comments section? Could McC be more well-behaved than Purple Row gives us credit for? Or do you think he just has the critical comments deleted?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
knowing how thin skinned he is, I bet he deletes them
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he banned McC users a long time ago, at the advice of LOLowitzki.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
by Yoyo on Sep 9, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BENGIE HAS A BLOG?!
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a typo...
It should say “blob”.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then it should be that Bengie IS a blob.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or...
Bengie parties in the offseason like THIS.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is a guy jumping on Bengie?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still like Bengie. I wouldn’t really be all that happy about some young uber-talented whippernspper coming after my job either.
Managers basing their lineups on whats annoying Bengie Molina is the proper target of annoyance.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me wonder what would have happened if Pablo Sandoval HADN’T been able to adjust to third as well as he has. Would he be stuck on the bench, so as not to hurt Bengie’s feelings?
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got hurt feelings, I’ve got hurt feelings
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sit Renteria
Play Uribe at SS and platoon Garkokawa
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Sep 9, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That sound you just heard is something flying over your head at high speed.
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering what that sound was…….
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Sep 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to be going over a lot of heads. Which is surprising because Grant actually typed the word “hahhaha” – and that should be a dead giveaway.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no, no, no. Read the options. THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS. There isn’t a simple solution. Stop trying to be a typical fast-food American looking for a quick fix. THERE ISN’T A SIMPLE SOLUTION.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have an idea...
…what if we send Renteria out to find a left-handed smoke shifter, and have Uribe fill in at short just until he gets back?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 9, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need a new griddle extender too.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Sep 9, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sent Aurilia out for one of those a week ago.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 9, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
Given this stipulation:
Renteria starts in every scenario, unless it means Winn sits.
That would mean the only time Renteria doesn’t start is when Winn sits:
LF Lewis
2b Sanchez
C Posey
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
1B Garko/Ishikawa
CF Rownads
RF Juggernate
P Some Crappy Pitcher
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't happen
before Winn doesn’t sit. It’s like dividing by zero.
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. The only way Renteria doesn’t start is if you have to bench Winn to do it. It’s science.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not enough veteran savvy gamer juice
by Mrbasepaul on Sep 9, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody for the love of fucking god
please tell me what the fuck is wrong with this lineup. AHHHHHHHH GOOODDD DAMMMITT
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmm
fast food….
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 9, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmm
I am having left over ropa vieja for lunch right now
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gamer
early lunch so your stomach is ready for today’s game?
by esseffgeez on Sep 9, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a conspiracy theory about this…
by esseffgeez on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically
EDT
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's getting dark @ 8 here now....
the horrible days are nigh.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I too dread the onset of the long dark.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the winter!!!!!!1
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Said by someone who most likely doesn't live in North Dakota
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually grew up in South Dakota but now I live in AZ so the winter is always welcome.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'm gonna need to visit
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a vicious cycle between my family and I. I give them shit about the temp in the winter and they do the same in the summer.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I envy snow birds
they get the best of both worlds
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is my dream to spend the summer on the Missouri river and then golf the winter away in AZ.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WEST COAST BIAS
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am eating an unamerican vegan Amy’s teriyaki rice bowl
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Sep 9, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elitist!
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have fun eating Amy’s bowl.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAWT
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually that’s probably pretty American.
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by Natto on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
vegan is about as unamerican as you can get
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Asian dish with no pork in it = American
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by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you will be first against the wall when the vegan revolution comes
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the vegans I’ve seen look pretty weak and sickly. They better hire some meat eating muscle if they intend to revolt.
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by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Natto on Sep 9, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not Asian perhaps, but is definitely un-American
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
most uniquely American things are Un-American.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Jazz and LSD!
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by bgunn on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one but an American would eat a vegan rice bowl.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s not true. But only an American would call it a “vegan rice bowl.”
by taliesin on Sep 9, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking I should eat breakfast. Latte and english muffin. I’m just trying to get motivated to go to the kitchen and make it.
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by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just trying to get motivated to go to the kitchen and make it.
Hawt
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corn fritters? Hominy? Griddle cakes?
Corn flakes?
(out of corn-related breakfast food ideas)
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
doughnuts and coffee
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
corn muffins ftw - yummy!
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmmm... yes. Excellent catch!
They’re delicious if you chop up some red pepper (pretty finely) and mix into the batter with a few drops of tobasco. Mmmmmm.
(shakes fist) Damn you, GiantsBabe!
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That actually sounds good.
I love hot and spicy—I go through a bottle of Tapatio every other month practically.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you like hot and spicy, you need to try big girl hot sauces, not Tapatio.
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by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also have some
Trader Joe’s Jalapeno hot pepper sauce but I still loves me some Tapatio.
What would you recommend? The hotter the better.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can find it, try Marie Sharp’s habanero hot sauce. It’s made with a carrot base. It’s spicy and got a great flavor balance.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you, I will look for that
I love habanero sauce—the carrot base sounds really good.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The mild is truly somewhat mild, great for everyday applications with a great flavor. The hotter ones will
work ya, but they’re awesome too.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(now officially loving this sub-thread)
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday I had to break down and get Arby’s. Mmmmm Arby’s…
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no Arby’s within at least 50 miles of me… and it makes me sad.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only know of the one at the Camden/Hillsdale split.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Jose that is.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m in Marin County, and there are zero here. ZERO!
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No fast food in Marin.
Eat at In-n-Out if you must.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In-N-Out is gross.
Arby’s is delicious.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wat
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by cloudydays on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s . . . not . . . human
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s wrong with you?
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and also Arby's
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does it feel to be incredibly wrong?
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a vegetarian
and I love In-n-Out! (secret menu)
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I resent a place that has to have a “secret menu” where all the good food may be hidden. It’s retarded.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the menu. I like the food but think it is over rated.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 9, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, if you’re getting too excited about any kind of fast food, something terrible has happened along the way. Time to go to the store and start cooking again.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this this this
a thousand times this.
the ceiling for fast food is ‘can be eaten without retching’.
Time to eat some real food.
by DrStankus on Sep 9, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bingo
i love that I havn’t eaten fast food in over a week. That’s the longest it’s been for quite some time.
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I ate fast food was in and out, last month. Before that? A year or so. It’s been years since I have eaten at any nation chains
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to Nation’s a few months ago. That’s the most recent for me, I think.
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by jcb9 on Sep 9, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that as
“I went to Natto’s a few months ago.”
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by Natto on Sep 9, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to stop hanging out in your bushes after the cops threatened to charge me. :(
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by jcb9 on Sep 9, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much do they charge?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$12 an hour. $20 an hour and they’ll let you use their high-powered binoculars to look in his window.
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by jcb9 on Sep 9, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$25 between 4 and 5. That’s Willie’s time!
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Sep 9, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything on the secret menu is made (more or less) with stuff that’s already on the main menu.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the stuff on the main menu tastes like shit, so I’ve never bothered to check out the secret menu.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheeseburger meal, no onions, pickles, “secret sauce”, added ketchup.
Their fries are delicious, and you can get them extra crispy as well depending on your preference
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one time I tried their fries, they were the worst fries I’ve ever had.
The super-thin ones that were all floppy is the ones we’re talking about, right?
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSS
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. Maybe they had a rookie running the fryer that day or something.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie made one bad batch of fries so the Borky manager fires him.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta go for the extra crispy option
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they had arookieaging, slovenly, whiny veteran running the fryer that day or something.
by younghutch on Sep 9, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you wouldn’t have gotten any if that were the case.
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by bgunn on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but I bet he was really sweet and 1 out of 10 times the fries came out excellently!
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if his salary and counter time is taking up valuable resources that could be diverted to the promising youngsters on the farm. Or so I would guess.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Sep 9, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They actually taste like potatoes, which might be different than ones that don’t
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
If you’re used to fake-fries In-n-Outs will taste different to you.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they don’t freeze them or blanch them. There’s a trade-off between fries tasting like potatoes and their crispiness.
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by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can order them well done which is what I do anyway.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the way they do them. I don’t really care for the McDoanld’s style super crispy fry that tastes like sugar.
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by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McDonald’s fries ordered extra crispy are actually pretty good. It pretty much turns them into a chip type thing, so that if they get cold they aren’t disgusting.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand thinking it tastes like shit and liking Arby’s but ymmv.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never been to INNO
but I can’t imagine it’s worse than Arbys…
I like Arbys but they put everything under a heating lamp rather than making it to order. Yuck.
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arby’s is basically a chain hofbrau
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They serve beer?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
without the beer
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should also point out that I almost never eat beef from fast food places. I’m more of a chicken fan. So the fact that INN also has no chicken makes me dislike them on principle. And the one hamburger I got one time tasted like evil.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not hidden
just go to innout.com
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that was totally underwhelming.
So what’s the point of a secret menu if there’s nothing really that different on it, and you could really easily just put it on the regular menu?
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you know the secret menu, you’re one of the cool kids.
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In-N-Out isn’t that great
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BILLY MAYS HERE FOR FAST FOOD JOINTS OTHER THAN IN-N-OUT!
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
U R 5!
He died of heart failure!
(Cocaine related heart failure, but I’m sure a fast-food burger or eight made it into those arteries.)
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
U ME
PARKLING LOT BY THE BIKE RACK AT IN N OUT
6 PM
BE THERE OR B SQUARE
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by cloudydays on Sep 9, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
o-ver-ra-ted
clap. clap. clap clap clap
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIES
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a cheap hamburger place, it’s good. I’d rather go there than any other fast food.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your tastebuds are broken.
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by ResDog on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As it happens, I must.
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could tell that about you
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the one in Strawberry the only In-n-Out in Marin? I’m trying to think of another one.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's the only one
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad it’s in close proximity to me, then. (Though the crazy yuppies wouldn’t let them put in a drive-through back when they first built it… argh.)
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, a drive-thru would be convenient occasionally.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is making me afraid to say anything around here! lol
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it is pretty much responsive to ANYTHING you could possibly say.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha!
And to think I was going to say something about grabbing some pine meat during last night’s game….
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, anything about “grabbing,” “meat”, or “pine” for that matter, will get you in trouble.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
now that I think about it the game of baseball is quite metaphorical. No wonder guys like it so much.
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re all about grabbing our pine meat.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much everything that Kruk says sounds suggestive to me (“he backdoored him” being the most egregious example). And about half of what Kuip and Flem say.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the way he says “squat” when announcing the defensive positioning. “SQUAAAAAAT!”
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about Miller? j/k
Suddenly, I’m really looking forward to tonight’s game!
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by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. And, yeah, John is better about his word choice.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"medders is getting greased up"
or even just “getting his arm greased up”
by DrStankus on Sep 9, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to score every time we're at bat?
Not exactly the biggest mystery in the world, I admit.
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when it was all abput what base you got to? “I got to second base”, “She let me get to third base”… You don’t hear this so much, nowdays.
Is it the ‘promise ring’ culture or all they all just having massive oral orgies? What gives?
by Giant Homer on Sep 9, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rainbow parties are all the rage these days, old man
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Sep 9, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I missed out on all those massive oral orgies. :/
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly to me the one at the Wharf served the best double meat animal style I’ve had ever. The one in Dublin (Pleasanton?) was a bit dried out last time I had it.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You, mean the one by the Porsche dealer?
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by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, in the little strip mall there.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can drive to Petaluma, if you live in north Marin
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by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live like 10 minutes from the one in Strawberry, so it’s all good for me.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should try the Burrito place in San Rafael I think its called Taqueria San Jose. It is great! (on 4th, I think, by the freeway)
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by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a ton of great food places in San Rafael, I’ve been meaning to go check more of them out.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
4th Street really is a little bit of a food heaven.
Try Bobby’s if you ever go. It’s on, like, 4th and G. The guy who owns it is really cool, the sandwiches are aces, and I believe he just had a baby. So the patronage is also helping young children!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
inb4 Walrusman joke
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a taqueria in the Canal called Mi Familia
Worth the extra 5 minutes of driving (for me)
San Jose is good too
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh, that place is good.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
It’s right under the freeway overpass. Awesome burritos.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you must?
You mean, early and often, si?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also one at Blossom Hill near 85 and I think Winchester near the Mystery House.
Not that I pay attention.
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by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get around to those areas much. I drive by the other every day.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
their potato triangles things are great
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by cloudydays on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not really a big fan. I do like their curly fries.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In N Out yes
SUCK IT 5 GUYS (for xanthan…. even though 5 guys looks good)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN YOU XANTHAN, YOU FOILED ME AGAIN!!!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT IS WHAT XANTHAN’S DINNER SAID!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purple row would not approve
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last one is the baseball nerd solution again.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
100% of the McCoven are baseball nerds, and thus do not know how to grit out the game.
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by Yoyo on Sep 9, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF U PLAYED THE GAME U WOOD KNOW
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, there is a kernel of truth in that
(NOT a reference to Can of Corn or Cornball… necessarily)
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I picked the 3rd one because I like the idea of Sandoval being a 4th backup catcher.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Garkokawa better than Aurishikawa
by esseffgeez on Sep 9, 2009 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did we ever find SF Pete's source?
Or was it SFGuy?
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by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he wants to keep that under wraps to avoid getting anyone into trouble.
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by Natto on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edgar Renteria 8 million dollars>>>Juan Uribe 1 million dollars
by Mrbasepaul on Sep 9, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy Winn 9.6 million dollars>>>Edgar Renteria 8 million dollars
by Mrbasepaul on Sep 9, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dammit. I meant to have one of the poll questions bring up the FACT that players’ worth can be determined by contract value.
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we should trade Lincecum while his value is low! It all makes sense now!
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Sep 9, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pie > cake
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
Icecream > other stuff
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other Stuff> Ice cream = butt pee
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by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like:
the idea of ice cream cake > pie
Because usually the cake part of the ice cream cake is gross. The ice cream part depends on where you get it, and the flavor. And by that point, you’re not even comparing cake and pie any more. Just ice cream and pie. And ice cream can be good on pie. So you can’t even compare them anymore.
Ergo, you can’t compare the two.
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by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Science!
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/hires can of corn as defense lawyer
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pie ala mode> most other stuff
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Sep 9, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the first time we went to France, tracy tried to order pie a la mode. the waitress was so puzzled. it was great.
“stylish pie?”
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by delorean on Sep 9, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That had the potential of working out really well for you!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rockies 2-4 highest paid players
2 Jose Contreras $10,000,000
3 Jason Marquis $9,875,000
4 Aaron Cook $9,375,000
by Mrbasepaul on Sep 9, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they’ve had lineups this year that were completely homegrown :(
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(and good)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want to hurt me?
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want to make him cry?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, Lars.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a boy in a mumu
It’s a boy in a mumu
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by bgunn on Sep 9, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I wonder what a completely homegrown Giants lineup would look like this year.
Posey
Ishikawa
Frandsen
Burriss?
Sandoval
Lewis/Velez/Bowker/Shierholtz
About right?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, pretty much. I don’t know if Velez would count since he was a Rule 5 draft pick.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow I don’t totally hate that lineup. It has some glaring holes, but not really any more glaring holes than our actual lineup has.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much. You add a competent shortstop and a RH platoon partner for Ishikawa and it’s about as good as what we have right now.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mainly because how cheap that lineup is.
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you could afford to add a big bat to that without breaking the bank.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like this one?
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's what I call a Big Bat!
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
twss
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, that’s what I said.
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWWMS
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by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
she’s a lot happier about that situation than i would be
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
my mom would be so freaking out if I showed her this. She has the worst bat phobia I’ve ever seen, and this would probably give her a heart attack DDDDD:
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
seriously. She starts crying if there’s a bat in the room.
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t talking about the bat.
/wink wink
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhhh
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IM DISTURBED BY WHAT IM READING
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LIKE WHAT IM READING
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make a t-shirt.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
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by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys see this in the Chron this morning?
Sabean says this about Bumgarner’s loss of velocity:
What the folks got was a steady stream of fastballs between 88 and 90 mph – 51 out of his 76 pitches, the rest sliders, cutters and a rare changeup. The Internetsia suggested this was a sign of arm-weariness, as he consistently hit 93-94 in the minors, but Sabean said it was in fact more a matter of San Jose pitching coach Ross Grimsley trying to force a more economical approach on Bumgarner. “He was getting a little fastball-happy,” Sabean said, talking about his reduced velocity, “and we just wanted him to stop trying to strike everyone out.”
Whereas Bumgarner is saying this:
“It’s felt the same coming out of my hand. It’s just not reading on the radar gun,” Bumgarner said. “I might be getting a little tired. I don’t feel it. Maybe that’s what’s happening. It’s hard to say.”
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
(I'm not sure which of those concerns me more)
“I’m doing the same thing but less is coming out of it!”
or
“Oh yeah, we told him not to throw so hard so he’ll get less of those goddamn strikeouts.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Look at how good our pitching staff has been this year! And do they get strikeouts? No!”
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This comes from the same part of the brain that declares scant experience Whiteside is acceptable while no experience Posey would be a travesty of sports.
by Every6thDay on Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whiteside has a lot of experience, just not at the ML level.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find this news strangely relieving.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no big deal, Sabean is trying to protect his player
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what if “protecting him” ruins compromises his pitching ability?
Oh, and someone should tell Bummy that he’s being protected, not that he’s tired.
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by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
by protecting, I mean saying things like “he’s fine, we’re just telling him to throw less hard, that’s why he’s losing velocity” to the media.
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s an “or” missing somewhere there.
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by can of corn on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t think it’s bizarre that Sabean apparently thinks he’s doing this on purpose and Bumgarner says he isn’t?
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m becoming more and more concerned with this organization philosophy that “strikeouts are bad.”
Not striking people out can actually make you throw more pitches, too, you know. 0% of guys you strike out get on base (ideally), while maybe 30% of guys who you have pitched successfully to contact WILL get on base, forcing you to pitch to more players to contact.
I really don’t know how the numbers work out, but minimizing a skill that has a 100% chance of getting an opposing player out doesn’t seem to have a lot of smart behind it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m convinced they are wording this wrong. Instead of “not trying to strike everybody out” they should say “not trying to walk people and challenge the zone”
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by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But walks haven’t been a problem for Bumgarner.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I heard Sabean in an interview yesterday specifically use the phrase “pitch to contact” when talking about what they’re trying to get Bumgarner to do.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Matt Cain has has said things like that, as well – that he is trying to get more ground balls than strike outs because he can be more efficient.
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by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has been more efficient this year but I would say that’s more because of how good our outfield D has been this year. His GB numbers are just about the “same as it ever was”.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wasn’t sure if it was really happening, or if that was just something he had said. Also, his strikeout total from last year was 186 and he’s at 146 now, so it doesn’t seem like he’s been throwing that many less K’s.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is not my beautiful wife
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by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you’re totally right. I mean, trying to get pitchers to be more economical with their pitch counts is a good thing but doing it by saying “DON’T GET SO MANY STRIKEOUTS!” is not a good thing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, for once, agree with Sabez.
Lots and lots of pitchers over time have said that they really felt they didn’t really get good until they “stopped trying to strike everyone out.”
So if Sabez wants him to get an early start on trusting defenses, pitching to contact when warranted, not nibbling at the black, that sort of thing… cool with me.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one, can’t wait until Lincecum gets better by not striking so many darn people out. Just think how good he’ll be!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a difference between the mentality of not trying to strike everyone out and actually not striking anyone out.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your reply below indicates you are aware of this distinction.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t always express myself well, but when I do… ummm… shit….
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it’s not like Bumgarner was having trouble pitching deep into games or being effective while getting a lot of strikeouts. He had a sub-2 ERA last year while doing that and IIRC he was pitching into the 6th and 7th inning in a lot of his games.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And, now that he's "limiting his pitch counts and not throwing so many Ks"
he’s only averaging 5.2 IP per start, as opposed to 5.9 last year)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to me it sounds like sabean is just trying to make excuses for the decreased velocity. I take more stock in bumgarner’s postgame comments
by sliderinthedirt on Sep 9, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the distinction being made is “trying to throw it past somebody” versus “trying to pitch”.
There’s this weird idea that he difference between a “pitcher” and a “thrower” means not having to throw a strikeout, and while there is some truth to that, it’s more accurate to say that a “thrower” doesn’t really have a plan and relies on stuff to try to get outs (usually strikeouts), while a “pitcher” does have a plan and can rely on setting up the hitter to strike him out in LOTS of ways that don’t solely involve stuff.
Strikeouts are good. You can “pitch” to strikeouts. You can.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
And, FWIW, I think Sabean was lying and that MadBum’s arm is just tired.
But, again, plenty of pitchers (Greg Maddux comes to mind, not that he had classic ‘strikeout stuff’) will tell you that the… um… perfectest game is 27 pitches, 27 outs rather than 81 pitches, 27 Ks.
Young (pre-draft) pitchers are usually the far-and-away best athletes on their teams, which can lead to feeling the need to win games by themselves, which in turn can lead to rearing back and ‘throwing’ (vs ‘pitching’) on every pitch. If they’re trying to make him shake that mindset early, cool. Big if, of course.
Jponry makes the excellent point that they don’t seem to be doing a great job of it, though.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither of those games are ever going to happen and it would take a hell of a lot of luck for 27 balls to be put in play in a game and 27 of those to turn into outs.
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would never happen
I think it’s just the principle of it, though.
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by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Obviously neither of those games happen. But they represent the maximum theoretical possibilities.
Well, I guess technically the 81 pitch game could happen; it’s totally under the pitcher’s control. But yeah, obviously someone after watching the first 26 swings turn into outs would probably take the first pitch. I can’t possibly conceive of a lineup that would just keep swinging at the first pitch, no matter how much evidence piled up that it was a bad idea. God… can you imagine how agonizing it would be to cheer for such a team?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants offense thinks that would be a perfect game for them
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by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want strikeouts by Giants?
We’ll GIVE you strikeouts by Giants!
(Oh… you meant pitchers? Oh well. No backsies!)
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On principle, communism works. On principle.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's "in theory", not "on priciple"...
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming you’re quoting what I think you’re quoting.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was, but I also had to make it fit the comment I was responding to.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
For crying out loud, our pitching is not remotely a problem!!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 9, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh of course our pitching isn't a problem
But you know a big part of the reason why they’re so good?
They’re first in the major leagues in strikeouts.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DISCONCERTING......
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the "Bumgarner Called Up" thread
I predicted that people would freak when they saw his velocity.
LARS WUZ RIGHT!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lars toots his own horns on his hat.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quadraphonics!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just glad I’d read the stuff on here about his velo being down lately. If I went into that with no prior knowledge except the draft reports, I’d wonder why our hard throwing lefty had turned into our Zito-velocity lefty.
Hopefully his arm will get the proper rest in the offseason and he comes back strong next year, with his velocity rediscovered.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he showed pretty impressive poise and control for a 20 year old; if he regains his velocity, “a left-handed matt cain” sounds about right to me
by sliderinthedirt on Sep 9, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DO NOT WANT
we need pitcher who know how to win!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then who would be the 3rd starter?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping he starts next year in either AA or AAA again and is told to just keep working on the breaking pitches and the change-up. The fact that his breaking pitch flashed some signs of being a good pitch is really encouraging.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Annoyance is
Kruk kept calling him “farmboy strong” on Murph & Mac
by esseffgeez on Sep 9, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this. There is no reason he has to go back to AA/AAA. The Padres offense is practically that anyway, and he handled it well. Judging by the whole performance, and coupling in his minor league career, it’s not crazy to chalk up the long balls (all solo, btw) to nerves. I’d rather see the kid up w/the big club.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I strongly disagree.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO REPLY!!
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha..never forget!
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep him in the minors for another year
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
by cloudydays on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Y’all are probably right.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the velocity comes back next year and his breaking stuff takes a step forward, then he can come back. But he should definitely start the year in AAA.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if his velocity doesn’t come back then he really needs to make finding good offspeed stuff a priority and I’d rather he not figure that out in the majors.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If his velocity DOESNT come back = DDDDDD:
TINSTAAPP?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figuring stuff like that out in the majors is a good way to wreck a young pitcher’s psyche.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 9, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want to go back and read that, but there’s no way I’m reading 2000 comments.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(shakes fist) Damn you, MTV! You've ruined two generations of what could have been the greatest minds of all time.
And poor WalrusMan!
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the best minds of my generation . . .applied by magic marker to drywall.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should be allowed to shoot my mouth off!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 9, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mayor, totally O/T, but were you at the game last night? I was in 311, and this woman kept starting the wave, and I was about to lose my mind. Even the usher told them to knock it off. What’s up with that?
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
311 BRASS!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was; my seats are in View Box 311, not View Reserve
Nobody in my section started that nonsense. I can’t speak for the “above the walkway” crowd (raises eyebrow at them).
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that would be me (the “above the walkway” crowd). The worst part was that they were doing in the bottom of the 9th. Maybe some of us wanted to, I don’t know, watch the game?
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on down and see me next time.
Seriously. We often have some empty seats, and it would be a pleasure to have you with the non-wavers.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You going on Friday? I’m thinking about flying solo.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to, but tragically have to go to Phx for work
Gone all weekend, doing focus groups on some damn lawsuit. Otherwise, I would have.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you do with your tickets when you don’t use them?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
by ringleader3 on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stubhub if I can. Sell them to friends.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aww, thanks! That’s awesome. I would love to have a mini McCoven meetup! I’m at most games, so I’ll stop by and say hi.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please do. I have no idea who you are, of course.
So if you shout out “Mayor” and I think you look scary, you know…
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha. But, I don’t look scary. Just a little blond chick.
(Preemptive NO GIRLZ ON TEH INTERTUBES!)
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please-- little blond chicks can be terrifying.
But come on down. I will be at Monday evening’s game for sure.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, see you then! I’ll try not to be terrifying.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAHHHH!!!! Oh... wait.... it's just kdl.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They always do it at the worst moments of the game. Never when the Giants are like 4 or 5 runs up, always when they’re trying to rally or they’re about to give up the tying/winning run or something.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Head = asplode.
I loved the usher, though. He was pointing at his eyes and then at the field and saying, “Watch. The. Game.”
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are some really awesome ushers at AT&T. The one down by the Giants dugout is the man.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got yelled at by a female usher down there awhile ago for sitting on the wall to the left of the dugout during BP (best vantage point for pictures). The other ushers had been letting me do it for an hour, because they’re awesome.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They usually don’t give you trouble before games but sometimes you get one on a power trip.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy with ponytail? Kind of medium height at best?
That’s Israel; he’s great. A definite fan disguised in an usher’s uniform.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, him! He was really nice to me, kept asking me if I was having fun. He rules.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's great.
And he definitely has a fondness for the ladies that isn’t too obscure.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he is definitely a flirt. I didn’t mind, though, because he’s so charming!
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
elitist mayor is elitist
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't they all?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People will freak approximately 2 seconds after his first 88 mph fastball.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 8, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK LARS THE WCW
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was BUMGARNER???
I thought that was Tim Alderson last night with his gumption-filled, feel-for-the-game 89-mpheater….
by Giant Homer on Sep 9, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact that i dont have to pay attention in this damn class and just blog away, GO GIANTS
by PiKAgiant on Sep 9, 2009 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ Kuip saying “shinburger” last night.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching Lincecum hurt, Bumgarner losing velocity, and Posey sitting last night
I all of a sudden had a flash back of Star Trek : First Contact, when the Borg Queen ordered Data to fire at the Enterprise E, standing next to a helpless Picard and whispered into his ears
“watch….. your future’s end…”
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL NERD
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the Borg Queen
My kind of woman.
--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crasnick’s feature on Zito is the main story on this morning’s ESPN.com MLB section with the classic title “Barry, Barry Good” (ugh.) Credits Zeets with helping keep the Giants above water in the second half.
He’s so gonna lose today.
--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Sep 9, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/shift-A
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Psh, this was nothing, took a 5 minutes.
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"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I caught up too
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I caught up after ten minutes or so, actually.
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's more likely to happen?
A) Giants make the playoffs
B) Posey starts today
C) We discover that Sabean and Bochy have actually been under the control of aliens this whole season.
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
by cloudydays on Sep 9, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m afraid it’s D) We discover that Sabean and Bochy have actually not been under the control of aliens this whole season.
--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well-played
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 9, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
part of me thinks that with all the media pressure to start posey, and with today being a day game after a night game, and with the giants needing to, you know, score runs, and with posey catching zito’s bullpen on monday…
by sliderinthedirt on Sep 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the other part of me lives in the real world
by sliderinthedirt on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I am waiting in suspense!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 9, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
look up. :(
76-63 - Giants Series Record: 24-14-5, 17-4 at home.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Not reassigned after all. Still a mediocre AA pitcher.
by rhys on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or down
76-63 - Giants Series Record: 24-14-5, 17-4 at home.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Not reassigned after all. Still a mediocre AA pitcher.
by rhys on Sep 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
baggs. he has it up now.
LF Torres
2B F. Sanchez
1B Sandoval
C Molina
3B Uribe
SS Renteria
CF Rowand
RF Schierholtz
P Zito
76-62 - Giants Series Record: 24-14-5, 17-4 at home.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Not reassigned after all. Still a mediocre AA pitcher.
by rhys on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m so glad we are sitting Garko against a left hander so Renteria can hit 6th.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck you bochy...
no posey, and rent hitting 2 spots ahead of nate… at least no winn.
by giantdonkey on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT FUCK THIS TEAM
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Sep 9, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually not that bad. (Soft bigotry of low expectations?)
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BENGIE CATCHING ZITO.
DAY GAME AFTER NIGHT GAME THAT BENGIE PLAYED IN.
IT IS BAD.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I got so excited seeing Torres at lead off that I lost my mind for a second.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excited? You have very weird excitabilities.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's it!
Beat them at their own game!
A girl on the interwebz.
"Comfortability, yeah, it's a word." Brian Wilson
by GiantsBabe on Sep 9, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS will never get old as far as I’m concerned. Always funny.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RIP Posey
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s Renteria clogging the lineup like a sausage clogs an artery.
And great, a tired Bengie Molina, now with even more suck!
by younghutch on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmm….artery clogging sausage……../drools
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
by jhiat00 on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie in Lewis-like denial last night saying Gonzalez would have scored anyway even if he caught Nate’s throw
proud father of Edgar (Grandslam) Renteria
by rxmeister on Sep 9, 2009 10:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t rewatched the play, but I remember thinking the same thing at the time.
by The Double Deuce on Sep 9, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Srsly?
Yikes. I was up in the third level, but behind home plate, and even I could see that that ball was completely catchable. And I’m not just being a Nate homer.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had your same angle & I totally agree.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we’ll never know, will we?
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 9, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he's wrong
They had him by two steps. If Bengie held on, he was out. Haven’t seen the replay, but I was probably 40 feet away from it.
by taliesin on Sep 9, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s Renteria clogging the lineup like a sausage clogs an artery.
Odd, I like Renteria more after reading this post than before…
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
by bgunn on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Nate is getting a start against a LHP… of course he’s hitting 8th but…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE THE WAY THIS TEAM IS RUN
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Sep 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TORRES FAST BOOM BOOM BOOM
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were drums. I’m not sure who was banging them or why.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
howie is a secret A's fan
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the A’s. They have a number of exciting young players, like… ummm… wait… uh… do they still have Ellis?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He missed most of last season with an off-field injury but hes still there
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Sep 9, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, wow.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 9, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES! RENTERIA OVER GARKO!
IT’S SO CRAZY, IT JUST MIGHT NOT WORK!
by Grant on Sep 9, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MONEY DOWN THE HOLE STRETCH, NERD
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 9, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineup reax
meh
:)
:D
BORK!
:)
bah
meh
Jugger!
where else you gonna put the pitcher?
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 9, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Torres!
You have bunch young minor leaguers who got called up!!!!!!!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 9, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soooo, is shift – C not working for other people?
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was just my computer, but no mine isn’t
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic
SBN has been fucked up for a while now. I wonder what happened and what they’re trying to implement that is fucking everything up.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
by marcello on Sep 9, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
And I’m seeing none of it.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
by WalrusMan on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There should be a Grougthink option...
I could just select it and it would place my vote for the leading vote-getter. That way I would always be right.
And be one of the cool kids.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
by bgunn on Sep 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear some are GASP saying that Rent should not start.
WE SHOULD BAN THEM ALL
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
by Yoyo on Sep 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
donkey's line-up vs. a lefty
lf- torres
2b – sanchez
3b- sandoval
1b – garko
ss- uribe
rf – nate
c- posey
cf – rowandfail
p – zito
by giantdonkey on Sep 9, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Baggs says LIncecum feels better -- light catch today if they'll let him
Just talked to Tim Lincecum. He said his back tightened up on the flight Sunday night from Milwaukee. He hoped to start as late as 3:30 Tuesday before trainers told him to back off. He is on muscle relaxers and sleeping better. Feels good enough to play light catch today if they will let him. Had back issues in high school and says they crop up from time to time, but it is no different from the occasional spasm someone would get from sitting in an office chair. Said he really is not too concerned. Very encouraged by the progression in the last 48 hours. Will listen to trainers and hid body, but if thr progression continues, he sees no reason he cannot pitch Monday, or earlier. Thought Bumgarner was awesome and envied his swing. I will post a fuller version with direct quotes when I return to the press box.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Sep 9, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phew
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You aren't worried about where he hid the body?
The cops might find it!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 9, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m more worried that he’s listening to the body. That’s like creepy serial killer stuff there.
by taliesin on Sep 9, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heart Baggs.
Also, is it weird that I feel better knowing that Lincecum had back issues in high school and this isn’t a new thing?
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had back issues in high school! Making us carry around four gigantic text books every day…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought the same thing. The fact that he’s dealt with back pain before (and obviously has been successful) makes me feel good
by sliderinthedirt on Sep 9, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially after hearing all the, “MADE OF PORCELAIN! WE TOLD YOU GAIZ!” comments in the media yesterday.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems kind of ridiculous to see him miss one bad start with back spasms (not even an arm problem) and then see so many people falling over themselves to say “I WUZ RIGHT HIS MECHANICS SUCK HE’S MARK PRIOR”.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally. I wish I could remember the details, but I heard some story about some “expert” who was like, “If I had to choose between Lincecum and Cain, I’d choose Cain, because Lincecum is too small.” REALLY? I love Matt Cain, don’t get me wrong, but that’s just lame.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Cain is my favorite player but you’d have to be insane to prefer him over Lincecum
Especially considering Matt’s had a loss of velocity since he first game up too and has seen a drop in K-rate.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Matt Cain’s been my favorite player since about his first start, but I recognize his limitations. Tim, on the other hand, is just… other worldly.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be this man:
And as I said yesterday, trusting his opinion about anything is… foolish.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you. Makes perfect sense now.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 9, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Joe Morgan represent the biggest disconnect from being really, really, REALLY, good at baseball to being really dumb about baseball?
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s frustrating because it seems like he rails against the very things that made him such a good player
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s easily a Top-50 player of all-time, maybe even in the Top-30. Yet, he just rails on weird stuff.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s certainly in the top 3 or 4 second basemen of all time (Collins, Hornsby, Morgan?)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, I forgot Lajoie. I would put Collins in that same group and have that as the top tier of 2B of all time.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’d say maybe Eddie Collins would squeeze Morgan down to 3 or 4. Tough to rank them.
I wasn’t very familiar with Collins’ career, but hello 25-year career 141 OPS+
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I get really bored sometimes I go read the BBTF HoM discussions and I think they voted him as the best 2B of all time… I had no idea either until I saw that and went and looked at his stats.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m working my way through Bill James (New and Updated) Historical Baseball Abstract. I’m still in the 1890’s section, but it’s fascinating to read about older players that I don’t know much about.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why I’ve never thought of picking something like that up before… I might have to go get one because it’s sounds awesome.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s pretty heavy reading for me — ie: it’s incredible dense with facts, information, and figures. But, it’s been fun to read. I just have to digest it in small doses.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a lot of material, and while I don’t agree with Bill James much these days (esp. re: Win Shares and Runs Created), it opened my eyes to a gaggle of players from the past. Plus the Negro League stuff is good too.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the book is a little out-dated in parts, and it’s a huge volume of information, but it’s been rewarding.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t like RC or WS either but I think it’d be a lot of fun to read stuff about old players. I have this crappy “Hall of Famers!” book that was written for kids and it’s so hilariously shallow.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Hall of Fame(rs) books
James’ Politics of Glory / Whatever Happened to Cooperstown? / whatever it’s called now was probably my favorite James book.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really enjoyed the James and Neyer book on pitching. Have you read it?
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t actually. Tooo much school reading. :-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s one of the guys i really wish I could have seen play in his prime, but unfortunately, that was a bit before my time.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 9, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s against stuff that he doesn’t understand….like books.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 9, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The article to which I linked above points out that the sabrmetrics he so despises are the same ones that prove pretty much beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was the greatest 2B of all time.
In some measure of a defense, he is hugely tradition-minded (for better and usually worse) and would never consider himself better than guys from the Babe Ruth era or whatever.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say that he’s beyond a shadow of a doubt the greatest 2B of all time though it’s arguable but he’s definitely up there (and an inner circle type player.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No question there.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you believe UZR though, Chase Utley is having a very interesting career so far…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s already got 40 career WAR. Morgan has 103 career WAR. He’s on a nice track, but will he have the durability (he’s 30-years-old right now) to post another 45-ish WAR over the next 10 years? That’s a little over 4 wins a season for 10 years.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I don’t think he’ll be able to pass Morgan, necessarily, unless he really turns out to be durable in his 30s but if he can add a few more 6+ win seasons to his total, he could have a good argument as a peak candidate.
It’s too bad the Phillies waited so long to bring him up
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Maybe he can put up 3 more 7 WAR seasons for 21 WAR. Then 24 WAR for the next 7 seasons.
I’d talk about his injury history, but the dude just keeps bouncing back and coming back early from them.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’ll need a few more monster seasons, but the fact that he’s even in the discussion is pretty amazing. Great player.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we have the next Utley in NOOONNAAAAANNNN
(Or if he’s even half the player Utley is, I’ll be thrilled)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 9, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The really mind boggling thing is that his highest MVP finish so far is 7th.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I liked the last Fangraphs post on how he’s been underrated.
by xanthan on Sep 9, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is perhaps hyperboltastic, but it’s not my argument.
Bill James, in the most recent edition of his Historical Baseball Abstract, rates Morgan not only the best second baseman in baseball history but also the best “percentage player,” which is a rough measurement of baseball IQ.
…
He won two MVP awards, should’ve won three, and would’ve been a good choice for six, according to one writer for the Web site Hardball Times, who described Morgan as “the perfect second baseman” and “one of the most underrated and unappreciated players in baseball history.”
And when listing Hornsby, et al. it must be mentioned that they were not playing against the best of the best, just the best of the white.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You definitely have to take that into account, but it doesn’t take them out of the argument altogether.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 9, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, no discussion of GOAT 2Bs could be complete without
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 9, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s not even dumb about baseball, he’s just loudest about the parts he is dumbest about
Please hit better, Randy Winn.