2009 SF Giants Playoffs Pitching Staff

RP Bobby Howry

RP Jonathan Sanchez

An 11 man pitching staff - four starting pitchers and seven relievers. Would consider carrying eight relievers if Randy Johnson proves he is healthy and ready to pitch in September. Carrying 11 pitchers would allow manager Bruce Bochy the flexibility of carrying 14 positions players.

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Wil! What do you think of Sanchez’s resurgence the past few weeks?

I’d have a really hard time picking out which starting pitcher I’d want to take out of the rotation. I guess Sanchez seems like he’d be the nastiest out of the pen, but man, it’s hard to take him out of the rotation.

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by jponry on Sep 7, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Remember how amazing Brad Penny was for 2 innings in that All-Star Game?

I would like some of that.

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by groug on Sep 7, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

El Guapo

This is what I/We have been waiting for from Sanchez. His whole game from pitching, fielding, and hitting have improved.

by wilriv21 on Sep 7, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BORICUA!

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by Giant among Angels on Sep 7, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus leaving Sanchez in the pen would allow the Giants to limit his innings

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by say hey nation on Sep 8, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No Miller

He seems to be completely unable to throw a strike when he’s on the road.

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by groug on Sep 7, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe Joaquin instead?

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 7, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Johnson comes back, no Miller.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Sep 7, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

5 of those 14 position players will be first basemen.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Sep 7, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And none of them will actually play

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by jponry on Sep 7, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have to have Aurilia on the roster.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

by SFGuy on Sep 7, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Position Players

LF Velez
CF Rowand
RF Winn
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
2B F. Sanchez
1B Garko
C Molina

Bench:
SS Renteria
RF Schierholtz
C Whiteside
1B Ishikawa
CF Torres
1B Aurilia

Not happy about this, but this is how I see it shaking out if we make the postseason

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 7, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

renteria’s not gonna get sat. ever. no matter how much we plead.

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by beat_la_25 on Sep 7, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

I do not who has come further – Velez or Sanchez.

by wilriv21 on Sep 7, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what about zito?

it’s pretty nice to feel like we have a shot in his starts

by aug_21_2003 on Sep 8, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Barf. This team doesn’t deserve to make it.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Sep 7, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Horrible…. but still realistic. Which is a massive :D:

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

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by baetown415 on Sep 7, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My, aren’t we confident.

by KCE on Sep 7, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nah

optimistic

by wilriv21 on Sep 7, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by ResDog on Sep 7, 2009 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You should see a doctor about that cough.

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by Giant among Angels on Sep 7, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should see a witch doctor about that jinx.

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by zenbitz on Sep 7, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

leave Sanchez in the rotation

have Penny come out of the pen

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by cloudydays on Sep 7, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Penny in the rotation.

Experience and shit.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 7, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess I kinda sorta agree with this.. Sanchez seems to get nerves (pitches poorly when behind). Plus I think Penny is still a very good pitcher and was simply a victim of bad luck in Boston.

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by fwoty oz on Sep 8, 2009 4:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez seemed to pitch pretty well when he was behind in Philadelphia.

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by groug on Sep 8, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also in NY.

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by Natto on Sep 8, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

To me, the biggest improvement from Sanchez is that he’s gone being a pitcher who could go all “Situation Tomko” to a pitcher with ice in his veins.

You can see it in his numbers AND in the way he carries himself.

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by Goofus on Sep 8, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

penny as a starter seems good

if he struggles, even briefly, pull him after 3-4 innings and leave sanchez in

by sfoakbay on Sep 7, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Penny has been good so far as a Giant, but his fastball is still straighter than an arrow. Sanchez is prone to wildness, so I’m not sure I’d just hand him the 4th spot in the Playoff rotation either. I say we go in thinking Timmy, Zito, Cain and go from there.

by The Franchise on Sep 8, 2009 12:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He throws 97 with location. I’m not particularly concerned about his ability to pitch in the playoffs after he totally shut down the Phillies, who probably have the best offense in baseball.

by quincy0191 on Sep 8, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Assuming everyone is healthy enough to pitch I’d like to see the following playoff staff.

SP Tim Lincecum
SP Matt Cain
SP Barry Zito

SP Jonathan Sanchez

RP Brad Penny
RP Randy Johnson
RP Brian Wilson
RP Sergio Romo
RP Brandon Medders
RP Dan Runzler
RP Jeremy Affeldt
RP Brian Wilson

I would like for both Timmy and Matt to pitch twice in a five game series. Short rest be damned.

I’d have Sanchez as the 4 thereafter.

I don’t think my heart can take Howry pitching in the postseason so I replaced him with Runzler. Randy Johnson’s gotta make the roster if he’s healthy enough to throw.

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 8, 2009 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

so you’d be going with a 12 man staff? thoughts on having a short bench vs a long bench?

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 8, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

couldn’t you just get rid of Aurilia?

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 8, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Runzler wouldn’t be eligible would he? I thought he was called up the day after the deadline. I’m probably wrong though. And why would you want Brian Wilson twice? One heart attack per game is about all I can handle.

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by TehGreekStallion on Sep 8, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Runzler is eligible

60-day DL rules etc etc

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by groug on Sep 8, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bad. Drop Medders then.

I’d prefer the extra bench player (cough Posey cough.)

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 8, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know if you knew this, but Buster Posey pitched in college!

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by say hey nation on Sep 8, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was aware of that. Even more reason to include him on the postseason roster.

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 8, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha , drop Medders.

That’s sooo , you know , like three months ago around the Frankenstein baseball thinktank.

Not relying on meaningful tools to judge players by – stats , fr’instance – I use less tangible methods.

Like whether they ever pitched for the Diamondblanks.
This surefire reasoning has served me well with particular , cherrypicked pitchers in particular , cherrypicked instances.

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by victor frankenstein on Sep 10, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This has got to be the jinxingest fanpost I’ve ever seen!

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by Roger on Sep 8, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Really?

If we had a two game lead then maybe

by wilriv21 on Sep 8, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would much prefer to see a rotation of Tim, Cain, and Zito, with both Sanchez and Penny available as long relief or spot starters.

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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 8, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Goofus Thereom #3

With all the days off in the post season, you really only need a three man rotation. How would I do it? Glad you asked!

Lincecum Dude’s the main man and I want him getting the most starts of any starter, as well as going up against the other team’s #1.

Cain Dude’s the other main man and he’d be my #1 if we weren’t blessed by the heavens with The Echanter

Zito/Penny/Sanchez My 3rd starter would be a combination of these three guys. The hardest thing for a starting pitcher to do is to go through an order multiple times. To give my staff the upper hand, I’d go in planning to use Zito one time though the order, then follow with Penny. Following Zito’s junkballing with Penny’s heat would be a huge adjustment for the hitters and If the opponent has stacked the lineup with RHH, we take can take advantgae of that. After Penny goes though the order once, bring in Sanchez and make the hitters adjust once again. (If the opponents PH a bunch of LHHs to face Penny, you’ve now got the upper hand because all those RHHs are out of the game. If you assume those three guys can combine for 27 outs, your bullpen stays rested to support Tim and Matt.

This probably out of the box thinking that Bochy would never subscribe to, but it’s still what I’d do…so there.

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by Goofus on Sep 8, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

by tjbrun88 on Sep 10, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love it. But if Penny, say, is lights out for three innings, no manager is going to have the stones to take him out of the game.

Also, does anyone still use a three-man rotation in the playoffs?

by Evan on Sep 10, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BUMGARNER

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by jponry on Sep 8, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

SF Giants Playoffs Pitching rotation:

Game 1: Tim Lincecum will be watching from his home in Washington, after going through some of his pitching videos with his dad Chris.

Game 2: the veteran, Barry Zito, will be catching some waves near Maui. He won’t succesfully navigate every wave, but he’ll only be concentrating on the process, not the results.

Game 3: Matt Cain will purposefully miss the telecast, instead looking up old high school teammates and regaling them with stories of what Kevin Frandsen did to Brian Sabean’s dog/best friend/daughter/car.

Game 4: close call, but Brad Penny gets the nod here over Jonathan Sanchez. Brad will be in attendance at the game, wondering why the Rockies never called him. Sanchez will be at FedEx/Kinko’s, getting postcards made that say “I’m a starter, damnit!” – one of which he will mail every day this winter to Dave Righetti.

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by Lyle on Sep 8, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs