minor lines, 9/3/09
Well, everyone knows the Giants are a pitching system. And they can find fine pitching performances from almost anywhere. Like 50th round pick Mike Loree throwing the equivalent of a perfect game last year. But I mean, seriously, at some point, isn't it just showing off? Tonight's highlight? (a) David Mixon, 20th round pick and career reliever, making just his third pro start of his career trying to help rest a San Jose rotation before the playoffs, pitches the first six innings of the California League's first no-hitter since 2007. Say what you will about his age, that's still impressive; (b) Aaron King goes six shutout innings himself, giving up three hits and two walks highlighting an Augusta 1-0 pitching duel win; (c) Brett Pill has a three-hit day with a double and a home run; (d) Freddy Sanchez starts his rehab in Fresno.
Fresno Grizzlies (Triple-A): Las Vegas 12, Fresno 8
1B-2B Kevin Frandsen - 2-4, 3 R, 1 SO, 1 HBP, .299
DH Joe Borchard - 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B (20), 2 RBI, 1 SO, .257
2B Freddy Sanchez - 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B (1), .333
CF Clay Timpner - 2-4, 3 RBI, 1 BB, 1 SO, 1 SB (6), .249
Game Notes: The Grizzlies were unable to catch up to a rough start. Pucetas got one quick out, but then gave up a double and a single to get behind 1-0. After a strikeout, three straight walks scored another run, a hit batter scored a third, and a single scored a fourth. Pucetas was lifted, but reliever Palazzolo gave up a grand slam to the very next batter. The '51's ended the first inning up 9-0.
Team Notes: Frandsen, left behind in Fresno, has hit .341 over his last ten games. He's also drawn five walks against three strikeouts...Sanchez made his first rehab appearance on his way back to the majors. Sanchez played until the middle of the fifth, when he was replaced defensively after hitting a double in the top of the inning...Timpner has five RBI in his last three games; he had 35 in the 112 games before that...Pucetas has been on a downward spiral at the end of the season. He's allowed 42 earned runs over his last 32 innings of work. He allowed 47 runs over his previous 127 innings of work...Edlefsen has given up three earned runs in his last two appearances. His ERA has gone up from 1.78 to 2.48 over those two games.
Connecticut Defenders (Double-A): Connecticut 6, New Hampshire 5 (13 Innings)
1B Brett Pill - 3-6, 2 R, 1 2B (37), 1 HR (17), 3 RBI, 1 BB, 2 SO< .296
PH-CF-RF - Mike Mooney - 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR (6), 1 RBI, 1 SO, .251
RF Josh Phelps - 2-4, 1 RBI, 2 SO, .179
2B Brock Bond - 3-7, 1 R, 2 SO, .330
SP Geivy Garcia - 6.0 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 4 SO, 4.95
RP Craig Whitaker - 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 SO, 1 WP, 2.08 ERA
RP Joe Paterson - 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 2.02 ERA
RP Mitch Lively - 3.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB< 5 SO, 0.78 ERA, W (3-0)
Game Notes: Connecticut showed some resilience in this one. New Hampshire jumped out to a 5-0 lead after five innings. The comeback started in the sixth inning, as Pill hit a leadoff home run to get Connecticut on the board. However, the seventh inning was the big one. Mooney hit a leadoff home run in the seventh to make it 5-2, but the rest of the rally didn't start until there were two outs. Boyer singled, and scored on a Pill RBI single. After an Eddy Martinez-Esteve single, Phelps and Brandon Crawford each hit RBI singles to tie the game. The game stayed tied until the 13th, when Bond hit a one-out single. After two outs, Pill hit an RBI double to win the game.
Team Notes: Pill is going into the playoff stretch hot, now batting .361 over his last ten games...Mooney's home run is just his third since the start of June. He had three in April alone...Phelps is just 5-for-28 in nine games in Double-A...Bond has his first multi-hit game since August 20th. He's batting an unusual .214 over his last ten games...Garcia had his first tough start in a while. He allowed more than three earned runs in a start for the first time since early July...Whitaker has nine strikeouts and eight walks allowed in his last eight innings of work...Lively has a 0.78 ERA in 13 games in Connecticut after posting a 4.58 ERA in Augusta, and a 5.23 ERA in 16 games in San Jose.
San Jose Giants (A-Advanced): San Jose 3, Inland Empire 0
CF Darren Ford - 2-3, 1 3B (9), 1 BB, 2 SB (34), .306
SS Brian Bocock - 2-4, 1 R, 1 HR (3), 2 RBI, 1 SO, .241
C Nestor Rojas - 1-3, 1 2B (7), 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 SO, .284
1B C.J. Ziegler - 1-3, 1 R< 1 BB, .257
SP David Mixon - 6.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 10 SO, 2 WP, 3.29 ERA, W (3-1)
RP Ryan Shaver - 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 SO, 1 HBP, 0.00 ERA, H (2)
RP Rafael Cova - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 SO, S (8)
Game Notes: It's one thing to roll into the playoffs. It's another to head into it with a no-hitter under the belt. Started by a regular reliever. David Mixon was dominating to start this game. He struck out the side in the first inning. After striking out two in each the fourth and fifth innings, he got two groundouts in the sixth before a walk ended the perfect game bid. Mixon threw two wild pitches to let that runner to get third, but his tenth strikeout ended the inning and the trouble. Meanwhile, Bocock's home run gave San Jose a 2-0 lead in the fifth, and in the sixth, Rojas doubled home Thomas Neal for the icing on the no-hit cake.
Team Notes: The no-hitter was the eighth in San Jose team history, and first in the California League since May 9, 2007...Mixon made just his third start of the season (one in Fresno). He has given up 52 hits in 63 innings pitched at San Jose...Shaver stretched his uncored upon streak in San Jose to ten outings (15 2/3 innings)...Cova also made it to ten appearances, but just nine innings of work...Ford may be the MVP of the final month of the season. His batting average in the last ten games? .538. And one of those games was an 0-for-4...Bocock's only other home runs this season came back in May and June...Ziegler is batting 10-for-21 over his last six games.
Augusta GreenJackets (A): Augusta 1, Rome 0
LF Juan Perez - 1-4, 1 R, 1 SO, .244, 1 SB (18)
SS Ehire Adrianza - 1-2, 1 BB< 1 SO, .261
SP Aaron King - 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 7 SO, 1 WP, 2 HBP, 3.70 ERA, W (7-6)
RP Eric Stolp - 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 SO, 3.99 ERA, H (2)
RP Edwin Quirarte - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 4.25 ERA, H (3)
RP Chris Wilson - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 3.96 ERA, S (9)
Game Notes: The GreenJackets took a tight pitching duel, thanks to some help. The game was a scoreless tie until the seventh inning. Juan Perez reached base thanks to an error. With one out, Perez was able to steal third. With two out, Ehire Adrianza drew a walk on a wild pitch, and Perez took home for the game's only run. King got the win after holding the Braves to just three hits (seven baserunners) over six innings.
Team Notes: King had his first game without allowing an earned run since July 13th...Stolp Got his first strikeout since August 13th, a span of five outings (5 2/3 innings)...Perez has been batting just .200 since the start of August. His stolen base gives him 18 on 22 attempts.
Salem-Keizer Volcanoes (Short Season-A): Salem-Keizer 5, Eugene 3
2B Joel Weeks - 1-3, 2 R, 1 HR (4), 1 RBI, 1 BB, .299
1B Luke Anders - 1-4, 2 SO, 1 E (2), .279
SS Ydwin Villegas - 2-4, 1 R, 2 RBI, 1 SO ,.500
SP Craig Westcott - 4.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 1 WP, 3.26 ERA
RP Chris Gloor - 3.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 SO, 2.61 ERA, W (7-1)
RP Mario Rodriguez - 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 4.44 ERA, H (8)
RP Jason Stoffel - 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 0.00 ERA, S (2)
Game Notes: Eugene jumped out to a three-run lead in the first innin with a pair of RBI doubles and a run scoring on a wild pitch. The Volcanoes came back in the fourth, with an RBI groundout by Christopher Dominguez, and a bases-loaded single by Villegas to score two more runs to tie the game up. Weeks gave Salem-Keizer the lead with a home run in the sixth to make it 4-3, and a sacrifice fly in the seventh by Biery gave the Volcanoes the insurance run they wouldn't need.
Team Notes: Weeks has two home runs in his last eight games after hitting two in 35 previous games between the Volcanoes and GreenJackets...Villegas made his S-K debut after a successful run in the AZL. He hit .302/.345/.352 in 40 games there...Westcott had his least effective start of the season. He gave up the most earned runs in any start, while having his shortest outing since August 6th...Gloor has a 0.49 ERA as a reliever in ten appearances, but a 3.90 ERA as a starter in seven starts...In 16 combined innings of work in the AZL and the NWL, Stoffel has 19 strikeouts and one walk.
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Come back Mr. F! Save us from Renteria! (like that would actually happen)
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
let’s hope it’s just fatigue, not an injury. Any inside dope?
Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com
That’s one dope heard from, but we’re still waiting for an inside one.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
AARON KING FTW
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
King’s interesting. He’s had 4-5 terrible starts. In the rest of his starts he’s performed very well.
His velocity is supposed to be plus for a lefty, so I’m pretty encouraged by where he’s at as a 20 year old.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
he's been great since July
that he’s getting his k/9 up is a good sign.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Augusta making a late run to not be left out of the playoffs – 2.5 back with four to go. They play Rome, which is 12 games back. Nice to see King finish with a flourish – likely to start for San Jose next year. Gloor may also be with the Little Giants next year after a nice season to start his pro career. Nice battle between Pill and Roger K for the organizational RBI lead. B. Crewford finishing well – where does he start next year? Darren Ford is just ridiculous – hope he keeps it up into the playoffs.
Thanks Brute for stepping in and furnishing the Minor Lines information.
Darren Ford got a shoutout at BP
Darren Ford, OF, Giants (High-A San Jose)
Thursday’s stats: 2-for-3, 3B, BB, 2 SB
Ford was always seen as one of the better athletes in the minors when he was coming up through the Brewers system, but he just never hit much at High-A, and was traded to the Giants at last year’s deadline for second baseman Ray Durham. Beginning his fourth year at the level, Ford decided to abandon switch-hitting, and after a slow start, he’s had a monster second half, including a 21-for-39 mark in his last ten games. The tools were always there, and he might end up being one of those late bloomers.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Ray Durham may be useful yet!
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 4, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that as...
…“Ford got a shutout in BP” and I was trying to figure out why he was pitching batting practice and whether it’s even a good thing to throw a BP shutout.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
further proof that the folks at BP read this site
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I am Kevin Goldstein.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
We are all Kevin Goldstein
And he’s the only reason to have a subscription to BP anymore.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
I was hoping to start a Spartacus thing.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s a Spartacus?
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Kahrl and Carroll have sunken to new depths. They’ve become almost proud of the fact that they don’t get sabermetrics. It really is amazing that the 3 lead people there, Goldstein, Karhl, and Carroll, are all pretty clueless when it comes to sabermetrics.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
There’s this scene in the movie Spartacus when Kurt Douglas is about to be passed over to the Roman Legion. Kurt Douglas identifies himself but then his followers reply with, “No, I am Spartacus”, “No, I am Spartacus.” etc.
I was trying to generate the same thing with “I am Kevin Goldstein.”
Ya, I’ll go back to being a nerd now.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
I was actually kidding about the Spartacus thing, I do know what you were talking about. Although, in retrospect, it really isn’t a joke nor is it funny. Anyways…
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
to each their own … I thought it would’ve been funny if a bunch of people chimed in repeating lines … the repetition is what would’ve made it funny imo
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
oops I meant Kirk Douglas. I can’t even drop the knowledge if I try.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s stupid.
Conversely I also find out stupid when Billy Beane is revealed to not believe in actually watching his As play.
I think any radical stance in terms of old guard scouting vs. new more analytical is a bit silly.
Both have their merits and both should be used in conjunction.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Beane doesn’t watch them because it would cause him to have a heart attack, not because he doesn’t believe in it.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
or plunge the A’s into bankruptcy through broken office furniture.
You’re probably right.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 4, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
With Goldstein, I don’t mind. His background is more of a scouting one, but he understands that the stats are important as well. He’ll never be confused for a stat nerd, but he at least gets the basics of it. The other two have no excuse though.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
I’m not really sure what’s Kahrl supposed to be good at. Carroll has his thing, but seriously:
Will Carroll: “I’m not sure any statistical tool has ever had more of an effect on the game than PAP. If you look at the usage stats, we just don’t have high PAP starts any more because it measured it so well and pointed it out to the general public.”
You heard it here first – Pitcher Abuse Points, a random stat on Baseball Prospectus that almost nobody cares about, is the one and only reason for that pitch counts have gone down lately. Yup. If it weren’t for that stat (which has a secret formula, by the way) Bruce Bochy would let Lincecum throw 145 pitches every game. Also, it’s made more of an impact on the game of baseball, then, say, understanding the value of walks has.
How can you take anyone seriously after a quote like that? If he believe that, he lacks a basic understanding of both the baseball world and of statistics, and if he doesn’t, he’s willing to make crap up just in order to make Baseball Prospectus look good. In either case, I don’t see why I should pay money to read this guy.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
I don’t know if you followed the BP Idol contest at all, but it was a stream of Carroll and Karhl talking about how they don’t quite understand the stats (FIP, I believe, was one of them) and how it needs to be more accessible. I almost had an aneurysm.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Steven Goldman is great. I like Jaffe and Normandin too. But I can’t read their lead writers, except for Goldstein.
Normandin is good. Goldman is ok, but he’s really nothing special.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
At least for me
History isn’t my thing.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.

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