Hanley and Uggla exchange words in locker room after game....

"A frustrated and injured Hanley Ramirez said Wednesday that he "got some people upset" for leaving the game early the night before with an injury, then teammate Dan Uggla openly argued with the NL batting leader in the clubhouse.

Uggla accused Ramirez of a lack of desire and effort to win. He also said Ramirez wasn't caring because he's already secured a $70 million, six-year contract.

Ramirez left the Marlins' 4-3 loss to the Atlanta Braves with a tight left hamstring. He was taken out of the lineup Wednesday about an hour before the game, and the team held a closed-door meeting."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4441073

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The Marlins should definately look to trade Ramirez now. A package of Bowker, Frandsen and Pucetas should be enough. Get on it Giants Brass!

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by GiantFan on Sep 3, 2009 3:39 AM PDT reply actions

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by Zetsuboushita on Sep 3, 2009 7:01 AM PDT reply actions

YES MARLINS YES DRIVE RAMIREZ AWAY UNTIL YOU’RE FORCED TO TRADE HIM THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL IDEA

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by jponry on Sep 3, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions

You forgot the evil laughter. MWAHAHA!

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by EliminateMe on Sep 3, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions

by Jakespaar on Sep 3, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Sounds like my dreams of Uggla and Hanley may be smashed

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by say hey nation on Sep 3, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions

Umm. What kind of dreams were those, exactly?

by Evan on Sep 3, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions

Umm. Like one is a SF SS and the other is a SF 2B

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by say hey nation on Sep 3, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions

But the odds of getting half your dream to come true seem better now.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Uggla accused Ramirez of a lack of desire and effort to win. He also said Ramirez wasn’t caring because he’s already secured a $70 million, six-year contract.

Lack of desire and effort to win, really? His +6.5 wins are tops on the Marlins by a large margin. If he really had a lack of desire, wouldn’t his numbers be much, much worse?

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by xanthan on Sep 3, 2009 8:28 AM PDT reply actions

He is like Uribe. He is just that good naturally

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by say hey nation on Sep 3, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions

I haven't looked at the stats

But maybe Uggla thinks he’s mailing it in down the stretch. Regardless of a $70 million dollar contract, staying up for meaningless games in that ballpark’s got to be a challenge.

by otis29 on Sep 3, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions

"Desire" and "Ability" are two different things

Putting up good numbers doesn’t mean he’s giving his best effort. As good as Ramirez is, if he’s “dogging it”, isn’t it just as easy to say “Wow, just think if Ramirez’ desire matched his ability!”?

I have no idea whether Ramirez is mailing it in, but Uggla probably has the best seat in the house to make the call.

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by Goofus on Sep 3, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions

Considering he was on a tear (he hit almost .400 in August, despite a pretty bad slump in the last week of it) until his recent injury, I sincerely doubt Hanley is mailing it in.

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by jponry on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions

Reminds me of a couple years ago when some of the Mariners were accusing Ichiro of not caring… when he was the only player contributing anything of value that year.

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by Natto on Sep 3, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions

You mean last season?

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by baetown415 on Sep 3, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure

by Natto on Sep 3, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Sounds to me like Uggla is jealous of the money and frustrated over the fact he’s struggled all year.

However, I seem to remember similar concerns about Hanley when he was at AA for the Red Sox. The validity of such concerns are hard to prove of course.

by Hobbes2d on Sep 3, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions

Exchaging words happens every damn day...

But usually it’s more like this.

Uggla: “Hey, Hanley, surf and turf after the game tonight?”

Ramirez: “Sure.”

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by Skaldheim on Sep 3, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions

I propose this exchange

I’d exchange multiple utterances of “plentiful” for a single “opulent”.

Opulent is a fun word to say.

Opulent!

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 3, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions

I like the opulence of it.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 3, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Corpulent is another good one

Maybe I just like the “pu” sound in both.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 3, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions

This is all just frustration.

Uggla is going to get traded in the next year IMO, but it’s not going to be b/c he hurt Hanley’s feelings.

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 3, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions

Get off ur hands and get Hanly Giants Brass!!

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by CB30 on Sep 3, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions

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by satyricrash on Sep 3, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions

Uggla was just frustrated. Ramirez is a gamer. Two years ago he was injured at the end of the season, but said he would play in the final series against the Mets who were fighting for a playoff spot, even if he had a broken leg. He played and they knocked the Mets out of contention. Last year with the Mets again needing to take the series to make the playoffs he walked past the Mets bench and told them “you guys are going home.” They did. Hanley is one of my favorite non-Giants, and I don’t have a lot of those. Uggla should look at his stats, then check out Hanley’s and shut the fuck up. Hanley earned that contract, while Uggla has fallen on his face in an attempt to earn a similar one.

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by rxmeister on Sep 4, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions