Will Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean be retained next season?
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Nonquestionably.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Antidoubtedly.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You guys are doing it wrong.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You don’t have to be so mean about it!
/runs away and hides in the corner
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
“JPORNY IS A LIAR!”
-Brian Sabean
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
“JPRAWNY IS DELICIOUS!”
- Drunk Sabean
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
JPORNY IS HAWT
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
“I didn’t really say everything I said.” – Yogi Berra
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I have read this article and found one usage of the phrase “at the end of the day” by Brian Sabean.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
He keeps people involved. He doesn’t have a doghouse. It makes for a good situation all the way around — a good feeling overall with the ballclub and in the clubhouse.
Is that because he has a Fred Lewis House?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Sometimes I wonder if Sabes is watching the real game or some kids play The Show.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Frandsen and John Bowker often sleep over at that house.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Buster Posey is on the sofa.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
It’s a love seat.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
More of a chaise lounge.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Futon?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
so basically,
anyone with the ability to hit league average?
by NeifiChicken on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Whilst it’s Bochy’s job to create a happy clubhouse and be popular, that’s part of his problem. He’s too bothered about being popular when really the players should have that concern that their place is up for grabs if they don’t perform or aren’t prepared to work on their games.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
/picks up stapler. hits self in the head repeatedly with it
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
You could really do better with a stapler than hitting yourself with it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn’t bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it’s not okay because if they take my stapler then I’ll set the building on fire…
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
they’ve moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
Neukom: So you actually draft the players?
Sabean: Well, no but I bring the draft picks up through the minors and deliver them to the coach.
Neukom: So you construct the lineups once the players are on the roster?
Sabean: No the coach does that.
Neukom: What is it, would you say, ya do here??
Sabean: Well-look, I already told you: I deal with God damn due dilegence so the coach doesn’t have to! I have tire kicking skills; I am good at kicking tires! Can’t you understand that?! What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Sep 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 17 recs
rec'd
actual laugh came out of my office
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Sep 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
That too.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahh
Never gets old
Timmy is my Man-crush
by Fan from Sac on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
win
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
For instance, stapling something to your head.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Or a reminder note to William Horlick “Bill” Neukom’s calendar to get rid of Sabean and Bochy next week.
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
This is great news guys
If Neukom doesn’t like Bochy, this just puts another nail in Sabes coffin. Let’s not forget Neukom said how the Giants finish will be important, and well, the Giants have tripped 6 times to the finish line
I am going to kick Neukom in the shins the next time I see him.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions
Mine are dancers.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
“So assuming Neukom doesn’t pull some prestidigitation and produce Pat Gillick or Sandy Alderson from behind a curtain, Sabean and Bochy will begin plotting their winter strategy soon after Sunday’s season finale.
The first conversation might be toughest: Whether to make changes to the coaching staff. After another disappointing offensive season, it’s a strong possibility that hitting coach Carney Lansford will not be retained."
This is our reward for another season of bitching. A new hitting coach.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
How about Shawon Dunston? INTERNAL PROMOTION!
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Listen! If you take a walk, even an intentional walk, I will be waiting for you at 1b with these!
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that Dunston’s offical title? Hitting Coach in Waiting?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
so all season, we hear that it isn’t really Lansford’s fault b/c the team is made up of brain-dead slop hackers who won’t change their plate approach and the answer is to fire Lansford? I can see why Bochy and especially Sabean would like a scapegoat, but that they need one means they shouldn’t be back.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
it really isn’t Lansford’s fault.
He’s even less The Problem than a certain outfielder.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
right. it isn’t his fault. he coaches these guys to be selective (by all media accounts that I’ve read) and they don’t listen…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
After two seasons with different hitting coaches in which the offense was wretched, you would think they realize that the hitting coach is not the issue.
But alas, as you said, they need a scapegoat, and the hitting coach is the easiest one. Plus, the casual fans will all say “BAD HITTING + NEW HITTING COACH = GOOD HITTING! WOO-HOO!”
by deuce deuce on Sep 29, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
that’s very frustrating.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
its a simple adage. Coaching doesn’t add more runs. Not really. The 2000 Giants scored 925 runs. 2009 Giants about 650. And is that the difference between Gene Clines and Carney Lansford?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I assume they’re getting rid of him because he isn’t The Answer, not because they think he’s actively hurting the team.
Of course, the next guy won’t be any better, but they’re going to just point to the offensive performance and say “For whatever reason, the job didn’t get done. We’re going to try something else.” And, of course, that something else will not involve replacing the shitty players, but the mediocre coach.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
of course, they’e not getting rid of him b/c he’s hurting the team. He’s not hurting the team. I don’t really know whether he’s a very good hitting coach, but from what I’ve read, he has the right ideas about hitting. But he shouldn’t get the blame for this team’s woeful offense.
Nevertheless, he’ll still be the scape goat used to cover over Sabes and Bork’s flaws. Lansford didn’t load up the roster with brain dead slop hackers. And Lansford didn’t start the same veteran brain dead slop hackers instead of younger players with better approaches at the plate. But if Bochy and Sabes are gonna come back, they’ll have to act as if they’re “doing something” even if that “something” is wrongheaded and dumb and doesn’t address the problems. they certainly won’t change anything about the way they go about their own jobs b/c they don’t think of themselves as the problem. And that is the problem.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I would be stunned if Lansford didn’t get fired. Fair or not, firing the hitting coach when your team doesn’t hit is just kind of what happens.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
and firing the GM after 4 straight losing seasons is kind of what happens, too, but it didn’t happen here, even though it should have. Instead, we they get rewarded after one barely over .500 season in which the team shot itself in the foot week after week and could have been better but for the god awful lineup construction and horrible day to day on the field management.
And I don’t know whether Lansford is that good a hitting coach or not because he hasn’t really had any hitters to coach since he’s been here, but firing him is such a fraud and the idea that Bochy and Sabean get to stay and Lansford has to take a hike is just so insane.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’d think so, but not necessarily. I think the Padres have had losing records something like 9 or 10 of the 15 seasons Kevin Towers has been GM, but he’s still there. I’m sure there are other examples.
Not that I’m happy about Sabean being back or think it’s a defensible situation, mind you.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
right. it’s certainly not automatic, but I find it disappointing that 1 winning season (albeit the most recent one) suddenly erases the last 4 losing ones.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Towers didn’t inherit Barry Bonds.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Baggs would have speculated on that unless that is the talk that is already going around the upper levels of the organization, which is very disappointing.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. A person in Baggs position (talking directly to Sabean, etc..) wouldn’t say “a strong possibility” unless its a done deal.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least this puts to rest the false dichotomy of the “Bochy or Sabean” debate. It’s all or nothing.
You gotta cut the head off AND burn the stump, Nuke.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
TWSS!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
TWWS? TWLBS?
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing surprising there, however disappointing. It’s been pretty obvious that Sabean and Bochy will both be back for a while now.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
Ever since the June run.
That’s why this has maybe been the toughest year for me. At least another bad year would have given us a new regime. Really, this is just torture.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Why is Jorge Posada staring at me
For some reason I have Jorge telling me to vote for Mayor Bloomberg. Thanks, I will be sure to do that as the zoning plans goes through that rezones Philly as NYC
I R 5
Mayor 4 Life
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah! Multiple voter referendums strongly confirming term limits- referendums that said mayor strongly supported until he didn’t- be damned!
NYC needs the strong leadership of the man who arguably (as there are certainly other viable candidates like Alan Greenspan) bears greater personal responsibility for the global financial meltdown than any other single person, considering a) his vast wealth and investments and- more specifically- b) the culture of corporate permissiveness he has encouraged during his time in office.
Bloomie has done some very good things in the realm of greening the city and especially in stemming the flow of illegal guns. Despite what the national media had to say, the Plaxico thing was by no means an overreaction. It sucks for Plax to go down so hard for something so stupid, but there are advertisements all over the subways and streets that explicitly state, “if you are caught with an unlicensed firearm, you WILL go to prison for a minimum of 2.5 years.” So… sorry Plax, but, really? Really? Round in the chamber, safety off, in the waistband of your jeans?
Bloomberg: Abater of street crime, abettor of Street crime.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
You really think the mayor of New York is the man most responsible for “the culture of corporate permissiveness”? He has no control over the SEC, financial laws, or even the district attorney.
Bloomberg has also done good work with transportation and the school system, or so I’m told. Dunno if I can bring myself to vote for him, nevertheless….
You really don’t think one of the richest men on the planet, a man who has arranged to make himself the mayor of the financial capital of the world for two terms already, the owner in absentia of a massive media conglomerate, DOESN’T have a massive amount of sway over the culture of corporate permissiveness in his own city?
The MTA is aiight, I guess, but is a state agency, not city. If he gets any credit for that then he deserves blame for the 2005 strike, the huge fare jumps, and the $75 ticket I got for “obstructing a seat” because my foot was on the corner of it at 3 in the morning on a car with all of four other people onboard. I do like the increased bike lanes, and I think the idea to toll drivers entering downtown at peak hours (a la Copenhagen, London, etc) was his. The schools thing I’m at a loss to judge. I’ve heard numbers from both sides massaged to fit talking points and subsequently torn apart on rebuttal. He’s also getting really creepily Big Brother with the Ring of Steel camera plan in downtown.
So, yeah, a lot better than Rudy (PleaseGodDon’tMakeHimTheNextGovernor) Giuliani, but not as different as you might think. I also doubt, blatantly illegal term-limit power grab aside, that any of his opponents would be much better or more effective. They all kinda strike me as a bunch of weenies.
Of course, it doesn’t really matter. He’s gonna win in a landslide with pathetic voter turnout, because this is Americafuckyeah!
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I can only hope and pray at this pt
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I find this interesting because the article posits a way of thinking that seems completely antithetical to what most of us think is good baseball management.
--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
prestidigitation
I had to look that one up.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Sep 29, 2009 9:28 AM PDT reply actions
Illusions! Tricks are what a whore does for money.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You better fatten it up!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually had to look that up in a different context a few weeks ago, so I already knew what it meant.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
elitists!
why can’t they just use legerdemain instead like most normal people do?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be poetic justice if Bochy and Sabean were brought back next season on a series of 10-game contracts where Neukom held the option to renew. Maybe then they would understand what it felt like to be judged based on a criminally small sample size.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
by Kitspool on Sep 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions 19 recs
brilliant!
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
LOL IRL
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
LOL
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
all I get it is this
Not Acceptable
An appropriate representation of the requested resource /32096/mercurynews/www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_13441845 could not be found on this server.
not acceptable is right.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions
Link’s not working for me.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
So...
Sabean puts together a lineup of “aggressive hitters” but Lansford’s the one that’s going to be fired because these guys can’t lay off sliders in the dirt? Yeah…ok.
One word: scapegoat.
It would be amazing if Dunston was hired. God have mercy.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Link doesn’t work for me. Thank god.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 9:53 AM PDT reply actions
Summary
Sabes and Boch have mutual man crushes. Have long “conversations” deep into the night. Baggs predicts they will be rehired imediately after the season. Lansford is scapegoat for 2009 ills.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I HATE YOU!!!
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t kill the messenger. Well, only if it helps.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Sabes and Bochy pillow talk
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
one of these men has a HUGE pillow.
by Croix de Candy Maldonado on Sep 29, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
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Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Like an orange on a toothpick.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Needs a Giants cap (unfortunately)
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Which one is Doris Day and which one is Rock Hudson?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
If Lansford is fired
can we expect Shawon to get promoted to the hitting coach?
If Dunston is made hitting coach next season
My 2010 win predicition will be less than it was in 2009!
69 WINZ!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Shawon-o-meter
.234
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Unpossible! Did you see the great chemistry this year’s team had? If you bring in Bonds, we might as well forfeit the season.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Will a new hitting coach help?
Or the “major” league hitters on the Giants are what they are? First pitch swinging and non-walk taking batters? I admire the Angels’ lineup, they have one big power guy and the rest of them just hits .300 like it’s easy – and their big power guy Morales was a nobody before 2009 too.
Win the inning.
I think Carney Lansford has been preaching the right approach
From what we’ve heard, it’s that the veterans aren’t listening.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
OT
A man on the bus was reading the Sporting Green today, and I saw this headline: Posey a student for now; stats come later. It bothered me, but this sounds nice though.
Posey said he’d like to pattern his game after Joe Mauer’s, and not because the Minnesota catcher is, in Posey’s words, “batting .380 or whatever.” A few years ago, Posey heard an interview in which Mauer said if he didn’t catch well, even if he went 4-for-4, he wasn’t happy. “That’s kind of how I want to model my game,” Posey said. “I’d rather have a good game defensively before offensively.”
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Not Molina?
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Joe Mauer is hitting .360 or whatever.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Or whatever.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
the whole team should model their game after Joe Mauer.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll spend the rest of the day convincing myself that I didn’t read that article. Should anyone attempt to discuss it with me they’ll be treated to me sticking my fingers in my ears and shouting “SUCK IT, RUSSEL MARTIN” at the top of my lungs.
You didn’t read the postscript? They won’t resign Bengie you know, so they are going to trade a young pitching prospect for Martin….
they are going to trade a young pitching prospect Posey for Martin….
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Um
Doesn’t this say it all?
…he’s(Bochy) the one responsible for what’s happening, who’s playing, and so on."
Bengie batting 4th, Winn hitting 3rd etc. So can we please get rid of him?
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Try this link
Grant’s finally worked for me after failing a few times.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
Gah
I read this last night and got depressed about it. With all the kids coming up I would really like to see a bit of a change in the FO and coaching to see what is actually possible in various lineups / defensive setups. I really don’t think Bochy is going to get inventive enough ever to see what the youth movement can do, and I’m not sure Sabes is bringing the right guys up at the right time.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
The link works for me now
Can I just say that I love the team but hate the organization?
Yeah.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Why is this being discussed? Both men are going to be given new contracts. We all know it. There’s no doubt that this is the case.
for the same reason people are still talking about why the niners did not throw on 3rd and 6. There is nothing else to talk about. What should we be talking about, why Eli Whitside is not a majority stockholder of Just For Men?
“gray” is the American spelling, “grey” is the British spelling. Just remember a=American and e=English.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
I’ll drink to that!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I usually write grey.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Nah. Gray just looks wrong to me for some reason. Doesn’t happen with any of the other English/American spelling differences.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Well, King Carl of Sweden IS dreamy.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I will say, though, I do like the way, in Britain, the Prime Minister has to address the House of Commons, answer real questions, get heckled, jeered, and screamed at. Actual debate is good.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
It is awesome.
Easier to pull off in a country the size of GB than one of 300+M people, though. God, you think we have deadlock now in Congress? OTOH, C-SPAN’s ratings would go up, so there’s that.
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
What makes you think it would be difficult to scale the British Parliamentary system from a country of 60 million to one of 300 million?
That seems like a basically trivial difference in terms of the level of dissent. Both countries are very large.
The reason our Congress has a lot of deadlock in it is because basically, by design and tradition (which has gotten worse over time), our system has a ton of veto points (multiple legislative houses, presidential veto, filibuster, etc.). The British system has, in essence, one. The party that wins the legislative election takes over the whole government. The only way they don’t do exactly what they want is if they can’t agree among themselves.
so is great spelled greet in the UK?
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, It’s programme, not progren or progremme.
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What got me when I first started reading the BBC and other English products was the use of C and Z
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
And the extra U’s
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by ringleader3 on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
They also like to pronounce Spanish words as though they were English. Like the author Georgey Lewis Bore-jais. Or the novel Don Quicksote.
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Toby Young had a quick lighthearted tiff with his fellow judges on Top Chef about whether paella should be py-ey-ah like that Americans said, or py-el-ah like the Brits.
“You don’t say Mehico or Barthelona,” he said.
“Spoken like a true Brit, still clinging to the 19th Century arrogance of the ultimate ethnocentric empire,” I replied to my TV.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
"Spoken like a true Brit, still clinging to the 19th Century arrogance of the ultimate ethnocentric empire," I replied to my TV.
You could say this about Americans from the later half of the 20th century
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I’d argue that America’s most imperialistic moments came in the 19th century – the Spanish-American War and the Mexican-American War.
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I didn’t grab enough quote, I was refering to Americans tendancy not to accept outside cultures
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Freedom Fries!
Never mind that France is the only reason America had any chance in the Revolution, never mind that they gave us the fucking Statue of Liberty… THEY TOOK R JOBZ! Or something….
But 19th Century Britain never even prided itself on the idea of being a melting pot. It wouldn’t consider a vast panoply of ethnic restaurants to be an interesting idea. America now is some seriously navel-gazing assholes, yeah, but those Brits back then set the bar pretty damn high.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think 19th century Britain was better at understanding other cultures while maintaining a strong sense of superiority. I think Americans generally have a hard time conceiving of people not acting exactly like Americans.
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Well, that’s the point of cultural imperialism, isn’t it? If you can’t beat ’em, make ’em join you!
Look who’s looking for Britney.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And earlier, with Westward expansion and Manifest Destiny and all that. But, yeah.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, though in those two wars, the discourse was explicitly about imperialism. I’m not sure if that actual terminology was used earlier.
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No, it wasn’t. I think that’s really only because we didn’t have to sail anywhere to conquer it, though. We can march troops there! It must have been ours in the first place!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a bit of a moot point. It happened. And personally, I’m awfully Anglo, love California, and am very glad to be from here. But that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to criticize in how it was done.
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Exactly. I am white and 5th-generation Californian. I bear much love for both state and country, and more to the point, what’s done is done, as Lady M said. Doesn’t make the bloodstains come off the hands any easier.
But Mexico sure had a more legit claim to Cali than the US did at the time, and all the tribes we ethnically cleansed in the process of expanding the country would probably answer a very emphatic ‘yes’ to your question, giants9107.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They "had" a claim
What is wrong with us taking it? Why should Mexico be entitled to it? Why should anyone feel “entitled” to the land their country has? That is why wars have taken place for centuries.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Plus, the US not only won the land in a war, but then paid Mexico for it afterwards. Usually, one or the other happens, not both.
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Of course, the US paid them without telling them about the gold Sutter had discovered, so….
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
True, but it was still a nice gesture.
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I really don’t know what to say to a statement as unbelievably blockheaded as this. Why should a sovereign nation feel entitled to be left uninvaded? I don’t know, man, I just don’t know.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
they’re for blowing up stuff.
Doesn’t mean you should blow up everything.
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So if, tomorrow, Canada invaded and annexed Maine, that would be okay and it wouldn’t be appropriate to criticize them for it?
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I’m not sure what you’re saying here.
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So if I'm reading you right
Why is California wrong for us to have and not the original thirteen colonies?
Sorry for starting this on a baseball blog. I guess it’s what happens when you’re a Giants fan, huh?
Nothing good will come of this, so I’d rather just end it here and agree to disagree.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I didn’t say it was wrong! Or that the original 13 colonies were “right.” For one thing, that sort of assessment would be really simplistic.
What I did say is there’s plenty to criticize in how that came to be.
Generally speaking, I’m not a big fan of powerful countries invading weaker countries for the purposes of territorial expansion.
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Also, this sort of digression isn’t really that uncommon for MCC. :)
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A couple more tangents
I suppose you could construct an argument that the territorial conquest of the Mexican-American War wasn’t comparable to the founding of the original 13 colonies, because Mexico was legally recognize as a sovereign state and the indigenous tribes weren’t. It’s a problematic argument, though.
Also, I should point out that I also have issues with the folks who were opposed to the war with Mexico, because in most cases, their opposition to the war was rooted in racism and anti-Catholicism – basically, they didn’t want to conquer Mexico because they didn’t want all those mixed-race Catholics down there to become Americans.
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Well
If racism hadn’t existed in Britain against natives worldwide, the Iroquois would easily qualify for sovereignty.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I noticed
Ranging from you marrying monarchs to Billy Mays criticism.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
We once had a debate about the Great Depression so fierce it got deleted.
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I can only imagine...
So many perspectives here, it must have gotten insane.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
HOW COULD ANYONE ARGUE ABOUT IT? nobody here lived through it, it’s all based on books, news reports and history books…
it was pretty much all me
I, like, wrote an undergraduate thesis on it. I get a little freaked out about it.
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oh yeah. But Hoover’s treasury secretary is the real villain of the piece.
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Oldjacket
You might want to check out “Great transformations” by Mark Blyth. Comparison of responses in Sweden and America to the Great Depression. Kind of argues that there was really only one idea around at the time to respond to an economic crisis – more liberalization..
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yeah, that’s why you can’t even blame Secretary Mellon too much. However, there were some other ideas being floated apart from his “liquidationist” line of reasoning. We know that from the minutes of the Fed board of governors.
I’ll check it out though.
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Personally, i’m not one for discussing American History all that much, more specifically the economy of the time, all i know is, FDR did something
FDR did something
Isn’t that what it says on his tombstone?
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You want to be starting something?
Got to be starting something!
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It’s hard to tell who’s replying to what now (unless you’re a cheater and use the up button).
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Skinny thread is skinny… Time to move on!
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t say he was robbed, just that he was the wrong person at the wrong time.
/starts it all over again.
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(Actually, I think you and I agreed on Hoover in that discussion. And most stuff.)
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The dust bowl helped John Steinbeck right a famous novel!
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My best friends neighbor was Steinbecks brother. Dude was cool.
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
High school/junior high English teachers can ruin a lot of books.
I’m a fan of Steinbeck, though. I’m not as emotionally invested in him as I am in, say, James Baldwin or Flannery O’Connor, but I do like him.
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HOOVER VACUUMS COULDN"T HANDLE DUST BOWL
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Billy Mays is off limits here
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Something else. Roman Polanski. What do you think?
I don’t mind it. He plead guilty should be held to some accoutability
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you
The way they went about it could have been better.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Criticize the US for taking the land, but don’t forget to criticize everyone else who also took the land—-going back to the earliest tribes.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
“The earliest tribes” seems like a false equivalency to me. I find it really hard to believe that any conflicts between such tribes would’ve resulted in the same level of death and dislocation as the Mexican-American War. The Spanish conquest, sure. Major pre-Columbian civilizations like the Aztecs and Incas, probably. Tribes living in what’s now the western United States? I doubt it.
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Well, sure, the scope was a lot larger, but to characterize the pre-Western Native Americans as peaceful and homogeneous is incorrect.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
That’s certainly true. Honestly, I think the modern stereotype of Native Americans as peaceful, spiritual nature-lovers is just as racist and offensive as the old notion of them as a war-hungry scalp-hunters. Just in a different way – racism through patronage rather than hostility.
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You don’t want to make a blanketed statement. There were hundreds of tribes in the US. Social and economic conditions were a mix.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
what about?
a blanketed statement infected with a smallpox statement?
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(“patronage” doesn’t seem quite right there, but neither did “patronization.” I’m not sure which form of the word is really right in that context.)
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GUADALUPE HIDALGO!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Whenever Brits hassle me about my accent, I just ask them why they insist on pronouncing Worcestershire like a retarded person. That shuts ’em up pretty quick.
One thing worth mentioning is that, according to most linguists, Elizabethan English was just as far from modern British English as it is from American English. Actually, from what I recall, the closest thing to the Elizabethan English accent is actually the accent of the Deep South.
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I thought I’d heard it was like a strong Chicago accent.
But really, whose ass am I pulling this from?
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The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
You put that back where you found it! That is property of the state of Illinois
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He could become the fourth ex-governor of Illinois to serve time in prison. wheee!
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I saw him on the Daily Show. He is actually very convincing
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I lived in Chicago for a three years of his term as governor, including his reelection. He’s a crook and a narcissist and an idiot. All of this was clear to most folks in Illinois long before he became a nationally-known figure.
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No doubt but when its in a friendly enviroment with no one debating back he knows what to say. Along the same note GWB was very convincing until people caught on.
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Jon didn't debate back?
Guess I can skip watching that one.
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More or less made fun of him, Blag is very bullheaded and Jon just let him go throughing a few jabs here and there. The only debating I saw was more or less setting Blag up to make another profession of his innocence
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
it was humorous but annoying after awhile
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you everbeen been to New England, namely Boston? Worchester is Wwister and Peabody is Pebiddy
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
They also call shopping carts carriages and liquor stores packies. And they sell bread in a can. They’re just weird.
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I’ve seen your fractal chips at my local Target. Doesn’t seem that weird. Individual serving sizes sold in bulk, like bags of Reese’s Cups.
Mmmmm…. Reese’s Cups….
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never tried it, but it disturbs me and seems wrong.
One New England thing I do like, though: cranberry soda.
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One thing I miss in NE and the Northeast (Philly counts as the north east right, that has always confused me) is Cream Soda it is so hard to find
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d say the northeast starts at around Baltimore or thereabouts. But it’s a slippery concept.
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The Northeast starts barely north of the Mason-Dixon Line?
Only if we’re completely skipping the idea of the Mid-Atlantic Region.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
WHO ARE YOU TO ARGUE WITH WIKIPEDIA
Err, image display fail. Oh well.
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they used to stock it the grocery store in Sonora, CA. I used to eat it with baked beans as a small child.
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sonora?
i lived in sonora for a year, when i was in the second grade.
Steven’s Creek elementary.
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by The Gene Hackman on Sep 29, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
We should have some sort of BAY AREA TIES Fanpost sometime.
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curtis creek that’s it
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by The Gene Hackman on Sep 29, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
i would have been there in like 74 or 75. and just for the one year.
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by The Gene Hackman on Sep 30, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Candlepin bowling. And they make a distinction between a “milkshake” and a “frappe”
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Hey Buddy! I live in philly! (Although I do avoid south philly)
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
you put the coconut next to the woman
to see which one is smarter
It’s actually Mousebat, Follicle, Goosecreature, Ampersand,
Spong, Wapcaplet, Looseliver, Vendetta and Prang.
Fatang Fatang?
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by ringleader3 on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
HER NAME AIN’T “JEAN GRAY”
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by satyricrash on Sep 29, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Also Just For Men Touch of Grey….Same great product just shittier
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't really blame Neukom though
I mean, he’s still really new at this. It would take a pretty confident, powerful decision-maker to really re-boot the FO right now, and for someone who essentially won his job by default (this bugs me by the way, as someone who bends over backwards to hire the right people), it would be expecting a lot of Neukom to think that he could really hit the ground running the way we want him to.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
but Neukom used to work Microsoft, and we all knows that means he is evil, and hates us fans, and wants our computers to crash every other hour.
/laughs from Safari on Mac
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by SoFa King Mike on Sep 29, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
/whistles and works happily from his running-just-fine Vista computer
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/tries to whistle and can’t, but is still working happily from her running-just-fine Vista laptop
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I hate Safari.
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seconded.
Move to strike Safari from the face of the earth?
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For me, it is so effin’ slow. Way slow.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Why does everyone love Apple’s OS and hate their browser? I’m puzzled with the mac love—I’ve tried Firefox, Safari, and Opera and I come across lots of sites that are real buggy with each of them (Safari seems to work best on more of them).
Maybe I just go to crappy, untested-with-macs sites.
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PS: Not trying to start a holy war, just want to know if others find web browsing frustrating at times on a mac.
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My choices for web browsing are my macbook, or my pc/desktop which is currently running windows 98 1st edition…. for me…web browsing is much less frustrating on the mac
I’m not a big fan of Apple’s OS either.
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That’s not to say I hate it. It’s perfectly fine.
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I have never used Apples on a regular basis but what I find really annoying is the menu bar pops when ever you mouse over the bottom. Sometimes I use the mouse to following along where I am reading and then BOOM I cant read anything
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Like most things, with any OS, that’s an option.
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I know, but like I said I use an apple for about 25 minutes a year so I don’t bother
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s annoying, but it can be adjusted.
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Magnification, you mean? I don’t like that either. It’s a default setting and shouldn’t be, but it’s very simple to turn it off.
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I find it really distracting.
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I turned down the degree of magnification so it isn’t as distracting. But it’s a nice way to click what I want while only partly paying attention.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
My wife has magnification on on her computer, and I find the opposite – I mis-click because stuff moves.
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They're tools people...
Some are better at some things, some are better at other things. Find what is comfortable for you and use it. It doesn’t make it better or worse. And hating a tool just means you don’t know how to use it, or it’s of no use to you.
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I’ve been using Chrome for a while, but just last week it started getting super crashy.
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I hate Safari too but Firefox has been making my computer go excruciatingly slowly lately and IDKY.
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Firefox performance has gone down since the change to version 3. I updated on my Mac but still use version 2 on my PC.
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I'm glad it's not just me
seriously it runs like crap
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Thanks to roger
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I think my computer has been having issues in general lately but Safari is fucking it up far less often than Firefox. Which sucks. I MISS TEXT LINK AND ADBLOCK AND STYLISH :(
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I tried to switch to safari
but there’s too much I use in FF. Though if it keeps sucking so bad IDK. There’s a HUGE difference in the perormanceo f the 2 for whatever reason, especially here.
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lol wut?
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by ringleader3 on Sep 29, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree about Bochy and Sabean, actually. Or more exactly, I think Sabean is the much bigger problem and I’m fairly indifferent on the effect of managers.
Giants fans on previous message boards hated Baker and Alou just as much as everybody now seems to hate Bochy. Certainly Bochy is a very offensive challenged manager, but I think handling a pitching staff is the most important thing a manager does, and I don’t see evidence that he doesn’t do that well.
Anyhow, Sabean is the anti-christ, as far as I’m concerned, and he will be hired and he will rehire Bochy.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT
LOLINEUPS
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by ringleader3 on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Agrrivating but very small effect on winning and losing.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not playing the best players on the bench has only a small effect on win/loses? I don’t mean the ordering, specifically. More who is actually in the lineup.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 29, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Point well taken. But as much as we like Lewis, Bowker, etc.. the difference between them and Winn, Nate, Velez, etc.. is not the reason why we have such a bad offense. The fact that Sabean signed Rowand and Winn to big contracts is the bigger problem. To be honest, Bochy was facing a dilema whether to play the high priced vets or not, because historically they should have been better than the average Giants hitter.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I totally got that. I am more in the ‘Both should go’ camp. I have some sort of anger against Bochy for taking the lemons he was handed and making suck-aid with them everyday, instead of trying something different. Especially in the times where the lineup was struggling.
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by ringleader3 on Sep 29, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I hear you. And i think his choice to start Velez over Lewis or Bowker shows he doesn’t understand what a productive offensive player does.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I would estimate
that Bochy’s lineups cost the Giants a win or even 2 this year. I used a lineup simulator to come to this conclusion – the effect was about 5-10 times higher than I expected. Most of that is due to batting Molina high 4th and Sandoval not second, and not using Lewis enough (2nd highest OBP on the team).
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I posted something similar
The common thread with all of these guys has been Sabean.
Sabean replacement is much more important.
As for pitching, sometimes Bochy has the tendency to abuse Timmy and Matt a little too much for my taste. Of course we complained about the same thing too when Dusty was the manager.
But there is no evidence that he is burning out pitchers. Lincecum has developed beautifully, whether that has anything to with Bochy or not. And he is very good with handling a bullpen, which maybe is where managers make the biggest difference. I know Bill James wrote articles on mangers’ effect on the bullpen.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Weren’t Lincecum and Cain like first and third in pitches last year?
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Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Per game? If so, could be a problem. I thought Bochy had a reputation of taking it easy on young arms in San Diego, but I haven’t looked it up.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Cumulative, I think. Lincecum had a couple of crazy-long outings, though – didn’t he throw 130+ his next start after the famous Not Made Of Porcelain rant?
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He’s gone over 120 a number of times this season, and his fastball control has declined late in the season.
I’m not saying, I’m just saying.
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Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Here’s the context for the chart:
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/9/26/1055954/should-the-giants-back-off-tim
I’m not actually sure what the typical decline in velocity is over a season. He has gone from a 5:1 K:BB in the first part of the season to 2:1 since mid-August, too.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I would like to see
BB/9 and K/9 plotted on that.
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hmmm...
good point. Since every “stripe” is a game, you could plot Ks and BBs normalized to 9 innings.
You could also smooth it out over 5 games or so.
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it would take more than a minute to add the velocities, you can kinda eye it, though.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
What’s awesome about Timmy (well, one of many things anyway) is that he can still have competitive outings even without his best stuff. I looked up his game scores since 8/12 and outside of the hot weather games in Cincy and LA, they’re solid:
39 (CIN), 61, 79, 71, 68, 33 (LA), 61
His three best in that stretch were against COL, PHI and COL – all big games.
I was there! To bad that was the begining of Busters Pine Riding.
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Heckuva game. I’m trying to remember, didn’t Boch put Runzler into that game? Or did he keep him both rookies on the bench that night?
No Runzler, Sergio and Tim I believe. Plus Pedro had a 9 K game
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
For fun facts’ sake, this year, the Giants pitching staff has gone 120+ pitches 6 times and Tim has thrown five of those games. Two were back-to-back starts:
Lincecum (Aug 28, vs COL, 127 pitches)
Zito (May 8, @ LAD, 126 pitches)
Lincecum (Apr 24, @ ARI, 123 pitches)
Lincecum (May 26, vs ATL, 122 pitches)
Lincecum (Aug 23, @ COL, 121 pitches)
Lincecum (Aug 12, vs LAD, 120 pitches)
Pitcher Abuse Points from the Baseball Prospectus
2009 http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=465584
2008 http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=204015
Timmy and Cain were #1 & #5 in 2008, #2 and #24 in 2009. I guess Cain wasn’t abused as much as I thought this year…
So, maybe its the freakness in Timmy which is holding up. But also, if he is the best pitcher the last couple of seasons, wouldn’t it correlate that he have the most pitches?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
if he is the best pitcher the last couple of seasons, wouldn’t it correlate that he have the most pitches?
Wut?
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
especially when the manager wants to have one good season (while mortgaging the future) to save his job.
Its just common sense that managers would leave their best pitchers, especially the best pitcher in the game, in the game longer.
But Lincecum was pitching with less velocity towards the end of the season, and this should be a concern.
But I will also say that 90% of the complaints about Bochy have to do with offense.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain had three truncated starts this year – the rain-delayed game in Washington (or was it Florida), the one before the ASG where he got injured and then the disaster in AZ last week. I can’t remember how PAP is calculated but maybe that’s why it’s lower for him this year than last.
PAP is basically calculated as such: (# pitches thrown – 100)^3. So every pitch after 100 counts; pitch counts below 100 don’t count at all. Because of the cubed dependency, throwing 120 pitches once and then 100 (of fewer) in the next seven starts yields the same PAP as throwing 110 pitches in all 8 games. So those 126 pitch outings for Tim make his PAP skyrocket.
he’s got a big hard on for veterans, too, though not as bad as Bork.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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I’m more wary of who would replace Sabean rather than Bochy’s replacement.
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This article makes Bochy sound like he's running a group therapy session
not a damn baseball team.
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by Fan from Sac on Sep 29, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bork: “Now, Aaron, how does it feel to take 2 fastballs down the pipe and then wildly swing at a slider 4 feet outside and strike out?”
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think managers don’t do that much and Sabean wants to make it seem that its a more “complex” job than it is. Sabean, who is very insecure, also wants to toot his own horn about what a good decision he made in hiring Bochy in the first place.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Managers can probably have an effect around the edges, but a good manager won’t necessarily add a bunch of wins to a bad team and a bad manager won’t necessarily cost a bunch of wins for a good team. however, it does seem that in this case, Bochy, thru his starting lineup decisions has probably cost this particular team more than a few wins b/c the margins are so small (how many close small scoring games has this team lost?) that a 1 or 2 runs per week may have made an actual difference.
But more than that, the atmosphere created seems to be totally warped. In terms of playing time, the philosophy seems to be (Non-Panda categories): For veterans, the only numbers that matter are the ones on you paycheck; and for young guys, the only thing that matters is whether you got a hit in your last at bat.
This is no way to run a team. Crappy vets get hundreds of at bats while young guys get screwed, even if they could out produce the vets given the same number of at bats. Over the course of a season, that difference probably cost the team a number of wins. Instead of being in this thing, we’re not in this thing.
And the guys who make those decisions – who to roster and who to play – get extended! the world is upside down.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
MORE than a few wins? As in, more than 3 wins? I highly, highly doubt it. Even adding a few runs a month probably wouldn’t result in more than a win or two over the course of a season. Games the Giants lost by a run wouldn’t necessarily be won because another run was scored, and some runs would come in games that were already lost/won.
Thing C
Considering the Giants have had 43 games when the scored 5 or more runes ( and over 500 in those contests) and 60 games were the Giants scored 2 or less wins (with a grand total of 8 wins) I find your hypotheses that the "extra" runs would fall mostly in the already won games to be very dubious.
I do agree as a rule of thumb your Hypotheses is probably correct but low run environs tend to break the rule of thumb in baseball.
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Link from were i got my numbers.
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That’s interesting considering I never said that. I said that “some runs would come in games that were already lost/won.”
Basically the difference between the “optimal” lineup and the actual borkified lineup is not nearly as much as you might think, and that difference wouldn’t contribute to more than several wins.
Thing C
How is it that any number of wins is considered unimportant? If a team can do something to win one extra game a year, they should bloody well do it.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If the distribution of "extra runs " are random they are almost 50% more likely to land in games the ‘09 Giants are severally lacking for runs. Then there is the problem of figuring out have that extra changes the other teams choices to unravel ( I’ll leave that the much more Stat adept on the site if they care to tackle it.)
If such a higher chance to land on games that are in need of the runs I think it is fair to say you are understating their impact for a team the basically specializes in run prevention. A quick and dirty analogy would be a strong offense team with not so great pitching or fielding that "finds" a shut down ( Strike them out!) closer allowing them to "suddenly" reduce the amount of outs they need to end a game.
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The distribution of runs would almost certainly NOT be random. Why do you think the Giants didn’t score runs in those games? At least part of that has to be attributed to the guy on the mound. If you’re going up against Dan Haren, you’re not likely to score many more runs whether it’s Velez or Bowker in left.
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Whoa, where did that Y come from? And what happened to the I and the extra E?
Perhaps it was it COOTYS RAT SEMEN?
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 29, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
best movie of all time
Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Sep 29, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
David Strathairn FTW
Of course, you could pick a cast member at random and say the same thing!
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I don't know about you guys...
but I feel that if Bochy and Sabean are fired, the most likely scenario is that the two guys who replace them will be just as awful at their jobs.
It feels like you guys are assuming we will get some awesome mastermind GM and manager as replacements, but that seems highly unlikely and I’m not going to be devastated if Bork and Co. are retained.
I feel that Sabean is about league-average, not terribly bad (like J. P. Ricciardi)… but I want an absolutely brilliant guy to be the GM of my team. Is this too much to ask for?
I bet you’re one of those elitists that want smart people to run things.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
But isn’t there plenty of evidence, over the last nine years, that Sabean doesn’t have a clue of how to acquire a good offensive player? This makes him below average in my book.
Make a list all of the hitters whom he has brought to the Giants since 2001 (including farm system, FA, trade). You’ll be shocked at how bad they are.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Right. Its like when Posey came up. Would he out perform Bengie? Who knew. But the chances of him under performing him where slim, why not take that chance. Same thing here.
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I have refused to accept that it's even a possibility that Sabean and Bochy would be back
Which makes it all the more annoying hearing all this ridiculous, and undeserved praise for the two schmucks.
Sabean has handcuffed the team this offseason with the Sanchez trade(and his determination to bring him back has more to do with him not admiting a mistake then helping the team). So any improvement will be minimal this off season. Which is amazing since everyone on this team except for Sandoval is replaceable by any “leage average” performer at their respective position. Brilliant sabes.
Bochy refused all year long to play the best players they had in the dugout. Flat out, you can say what you want about Alou he always played the best guys in the best part of the lineup for him. Many players had some of the best years with Alou, Matheny, Snow, Winn, Durham, and Feliz. Not because Alou was some genius, just that he wasn’t a dumbass. He knew what a player was capable of and he set him up for success. He got the most out of his offense. Thats basically a managers job, regarding offense, to put the players in a position to succeed. It’s exactly what Bochy is horrible at. Bochy falls in love with certain players, (Winn Molina, Velez. . . ) and overvalues them to where he’s actually hurting the team by playing them out of postion(lineup wise) and essentially setting them up to fail.
Nuekom will likely bring them back, since the mainstream media just sees that they improved from last year, so you shouldn’t fire them now, And he could be fearfull of fireing them and then the team doing worse next year. But, whatever, I’m still gonna believe that Sabean will be fired until its official
sorry for the long post
another rant
It’s riduculous to blame Lansford for this mess. When everybody knows that he preaches a good approach at the plate.
Maybe if the manager didn’t reward the most impatient hitter in the lineup by batting him 4th, tell the one patient hitter in the lineup to be more aggresive, and never bench someome for continueing to fail in basic situational at bats.
If your players are making mistakes at the plate, and ignoring the advice of the hitting coach, then let him sit for a few days. I bet he’ll listen if it means he’ll get to play. Simple fucking managing bochy. Why would they listen if you don’t have to.
Blame yourself Sabean for the shitty players you brought in not Lansford.
by NateEveryday on Sep 29, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Shit rolls down hill
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the first rule of plumbing.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I always go back to this:
Lewis is one of the best hitters on the team, by far. And he has been benched half the season, and dicked around with the other half. How can you not fire a manager for that alone?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Is true. Historically he’s the second or third best hitter on the team, although its not saying that much.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
At the very least, it says he should be a starter
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Molina being rewarded (by hitting clean up) for being an undisciplined, overly aggressive hitter is the best example of Bochy’s batting order failings.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Giants hitters
It could be worse though. Just think about the dogpile that is your Golden State Warriors. Players hating each other and asking to be traded, badmouthing management. Though I wouldn’t mind the last one, actually.
This damn coaching staff sounds like one big dysfunctional family. They all just run around and say shit to the players, it doesn’t matter if it meshes with what someone else said or not. There’s no real philosophy, no real process… The coaches all need to be on the same page in regards to things like …say… plate discipline…. and upper levels of management need to back up what the coaches say by benching, fining, or taking away the mp3 devices of players who do not perform.
This isn’t a rudderless ship, it’s a ship with 42 rudders and 28 helmsmen.
I would venture to guess that all baseball management works in this way. If you really break down their jobs… what the heck can they really do? Yes, the major leagues can be viewed as the last step in development, but by the time players have reached the bigs they have already done everything the organization has asked of them (or in spite of the organization) and produced results. Why would they need to change their approach? Also, a veteran-heavy team can’t really need/take/want instruction or coaching because they’re already set in their ways. In every sense, these guys are all “managers.” They don’t actually do any work, they just make sure all the pieces are moving. Which I suppose is work in and of itself, but on a big league ballclub, managers and coaches are really just experience aggregates.
Didn’t Nuekom come out with “The Giants Way” to prevent a coaching staff like this
by NateEveryday on Sep 29, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
the problem is that he put Sabean in charge of developing the Giants Way, which, for hitting, is apparently to swing at every single pitch not matter what.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The effect of that sort of thing is in the mid- to long term. One year is not going to suddenly flip an entire organization’s philosophy.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: I’m seriously getting sick of that Favre throw, i can’t take it anymore, i want to watch SPORTS, not ONE PLAY
I like how top 10 plays are all luck plays. Like last weeks Manningham catch. WTF he should of caught that, he just missed it and got a lucky bounce off his chest and caught it. Now, not every wr woudl do that, but c’mon
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea for real, it’s amazing that a top play is on luck, but some of that you have to have skill for, like soccer plays? Lots of skill for that… Everything sportscenter is? Red Sox, Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers, Cavs, Giants, Patriots…. i think that makes sense, i haven’t heard A THING about many of the other teams today. Basically you gotta do what Singletary did last year and just blow up
Its cool though. The ESPN bias does help build up places like MCC, so that is good.
On a side note, I got my cable turned on the day the NYY clinched and watched ESPN for the 1st time in about 5 months and I was disgusted with the coverage
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, yea for sure, i dont mind ESPN at all anymore, we got CSNBA, which is a big help, and i get to watch local sports coverage. Just think about how people in Kansas City feel about their sports coverage from ESPN. But yea i think it’s funny how much coverage those teams get
plus, there's mlb network, which is pretty awesome
i only watch espn for the occasional baseball game, MNF, and sometimes sportscenter
and don’t worry Shaq and LeBron will be getting plenty of attention.
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by say hey nation on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
As you know, on Sunday Brett Favre Favred the Favres to a thrilling Favrory by Favring a last-second Favre to Greg Brett Favre. It was real sandFavre footFavre. He was a like a Favre out there!
thanks for bringing that up
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I was there in person
that was the worst sports experience of my life.
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I saw quite a few niner fans in the crowd…. i’m sorry bro, it was amazing, but in the wrong way. Fantastic game for the niners though, no Gore? Problem? i think Coffee is fine and the passing attack is alright
Yup
they needed a last second fluke to win a a game AT HOME against a team that didn’t have its best player. Fuck them, they are a fraudulent team.
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That defense is beyond legit
Patrick Willis was so fun to watch. He is amazing
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Must have
because he was faster than everyone out there. It was insane to see how fast he could close on any given player, even peterson. Peterson also looked like he was ready to go 70 yards on every play. That guy is a once-in-a-generation talent. I just wish I could have seen Frank, too.
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More Sabean double speak:
Talking about Bochy
“And with the right personnel, he’s a darn good game manager.”
Translated: “With the 1927 Yankees personnel, Bochy would be a darn good game manager.”
I have faith that Duke Nuekom will do the right thing and Sabean will be gone.
Giant season effort summary:
Was just enough ensure the Dodgers won the division.
Was just little enough to ensure the Giants lost the wild card.
how come any good fan can make the right calls during the game, but Bochy needs the right personnel?
by NateEveryday on Sep 29, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's, like, the worst disclaimer ever
Too bad its really hard to put the letters “LOL” into Sabean’s name.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
and he was given some better personnel and they didn’t play.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT THEY WEREN’T IN THE DOG HOUSE BECAUSE THERE WASN’T ONE!
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Taco truck tacos… YUM
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Yum indeed
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Ever since I started working at my current place of employment I’ve been sad that there aren’t any taco trucks anywhere near me. WOE!
WHERE?!
(My office is in Rocklin.)
I grew up in Lodi. That place has a taco truck on every corner and some are spectacular.
Even more white and expensive. A good deal more. That’s why I’ve given up on finding a good taco truck for lunch.
I don’t really know CH that well either. Seems like that would be a good place for Korean food, more than taco trucks.
Folsom has some great food, but it’s priced to be sold to people who can afford to live in Folsom.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Not a taco truck that I know about.
But go to La Fiesta. In the shopping mall with the BevMo and the Old Navy at the corner of Greenback and Sunrise.
Steak fajitas
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From where?
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Work
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I wish!
We have an in-house cooking staff. Kind of like Google but on a much lower scale.
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Ahh yeah. Knew that, I have some friends over there too.
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Why would you want to eat shit? It is somewhat soft though.
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Haven't eaten yet
Probably same thing as yesterday though
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Same as yesterday
Except without capri sun: Chef Boyardee ravioli, s’mores Pop Tarts, Cactus Cooler soda, and flaming hot Cheetos.
And yes, I do realize that none of this is actually food. I was going to have Baja Fresh or Carls Jr, but I had class.
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I’m writing a paper right now, I need food that doesn’t require me to take 30 minutes to go out and get it.
Also? I’m the girl that had PBJ and applesauce every day for lunch from 1st grade to senior year in high school. Variety isn’t something I’m good at.
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Order pizza?
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Yea, i’m writing a paper too, due Thursday, i’ll just make something, i can understand if you’re in a dorm.
Yea i’ve done that before, have the same thing for lunch all the damn time, and for the past week i’ve had eggs, with cinnamon toast everyday lately, and yesterday i had quesadilla twice, for lunch and dinner
My rough draft is due tomorrow, right after my history midterm (which I have yet to study for), so today isn’t exactly a “spend time on food” day.
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Pizza
Or Chinese/Thai delivery if possible
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I’m not really all that worried, the course so far is about stuff I learned before with a few movies thrown in. I just have to know about unions, the working class, and the American Dream and I’m good.
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It’s Film, Power, and American History, which apparently is the easy GE to take. I seriously learned most of what is in the class in APUSH.
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Variety can be overrated. I had eggs over easy, toast and sausage links for breakfast every morning through 3 years of law school. Don’t mess with what works.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I’m pretty sure this would drive me crazy.
YOUR PREFERENCES ARE BAD AND WRONG.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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I'm with can of corn on this one.
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“what if” i am sometimes, if the giants were winning, i’d do the same thing over and over… i dunno that’s just me. Sometimes i switch it up
I’m not superstitious, but I do have a touch of OCD. Big fan of variety when it comes to food, though.
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For most meals I do, but now for breakfast each morning I brew myself a vanilla latte with an english muffin.
I think I just like morning routines. I indulge in variety for my other meals.
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WOOOOOO, yea, vanilla latte, i can’t make it here myself as i am at college and can not brew that here… I mean, i’ll do eggs benedict a few times, but every friday i’ll go to Fat Apples in Berkeley when i’m home and get the same thing all the time. It’s just me, since it’s so good
Fat Apples! My first date with my wife was there.
Sentimental value aside, I miss my Sacramento breakfast places, which generally superior to the East Bay ones.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Which East Bay ones have you tried?
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Royal Cafe, Nibs, Fat Apples, and some place near 4th street that I don’t remember the name of.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Somehow, I don’t think I ever knew Fat Apple’s did breakfast until this conversation – even though I’ve been going there since I was a kid. Go figure.
Picante does a good brunch on the weekends. I’m a fan of the Royal Cafe’s omelets, but some of their other stuff isn’t as good. I was really disappointed in their huevos rancheros.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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The chilaquiles verde is tasty.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I’ve been to Picante a couple times for dinner and have been sorely disappointed. We’ve basically deleted them from our restaurant list. Now we’ll just get takeout from Portumex instead.
Anyone been to Mama’s Royal Cafe on Broadway? Awesome food, horrible wait.
Thing C
Huh. I’ve never had bad food there. Different strokes for different folks, etc.
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The waffle special is very very tasty, and what’s better is that it’s not so much that it fills you up plus it’s not too little… and it’s not that expensive
lol
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
really ? where the heck did you go in Sacramento? Don’t say Eggies though, that place has gone down hill.
The best breakfast we get in town is at Tres Hermanas in midtown. Every place else we’ve tried is either, overpriced, bad, or bland.
Fox & Goose!
Ettore’s was pretty consistent too. Lucky Cafe in midtown is great too.
In the second tier there’s Cornerstone, and Cafe Bernardo’s is good if a little pricey.
I did like Eggies, but near the end I only ever ordered the chorizo dishes.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Hell yeah! I use my elitist espresso machine with my elitist burr grinder!
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You probably speak to them both in Spanish, too!
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I do tend to have a small number of things I alternate between for breakfast and lunch during the week. Fried eggs, quesadillas, rice with hot pepper sauce, and rice with over easy eggs and bacon are my staples. Or leftovers.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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But a black cat just crossed my trail.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Or poor.
The only time I’d have something different was when I went to breakfast at Joe’s Spic ‘n Span. Best greasy diner ever (OT tangent: when I read Executioner’s Song, I thought it was cool that Gary Gilmore also used to eat there – I didn’t know it at the time).
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
(oh – but I always ordered the same thing at Joe’s: pancakes, bacon, eggs over easy and a pepsi; after a while I was a “regular” and didn’t even have to order.)
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Depending on the subject, variety can be good thing.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If you’re eating Chef Boyardee I think ‘having class’ is debatable.
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
Randy Winn eats Healthy Choice!
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How about eggs and toast? That’s easy to make and it’s food. :-D
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In a dorm, unfortunately, so all I have at my disposal is a low-powered microwave. A hair straightener might work for toast, though…
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Hmmm, no community kitchen?
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I had a year in college where all I had was a microwave. I lived on pidan (thousand year eggs), microwavable chau siu bao, and and samosas from a hole-in-the-ground place on Canal Street that mostly catered to Pakistani cab drivers. wheee.
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Now that I think of it, also a lot of sandwiches and sushi from the neighborhood deli. And hot dogs, which I don’t even like but there was a really cheap and fairly good place right on the corner.
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I wish there was a Lee's sandwiches on every corner
Yes plz sir
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Bleh.
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Ugh. No thanks. That place has an unpleasant odor. And takes space away that could potentially be used for a real food place.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
Left over pulled pork sammich again.
You think it would be still good tomorrow? I made it on Sunday.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Time for pie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0p7MmcyyuI
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
I can’t imagine why!
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This explains a lot.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Use Hulu!
Much better quality: http://www.hulu.com/watch/98264/family-guy-road-to-the-multiverse?c=569:698
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It was cool seeing all the different animation styles in the episode, but it was pretty much the same old Family Guy jokes rolled into one episode.
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They weren’t even putting that many jokes into it… The new dimensions often times WERE the jokes
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Sadly, that’s what FG has become since its return.
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Yeah, I miss the old days, for sure.
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Yeah
I clipped the episode so it’d show that part.
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I have a slice of mixed berry pie from Mission Pies waiting for me at home.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I just read that Al Pacino turned down the role of Han Solo in the original Star Wars
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
That would have been…. interesting.
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Probably blegh
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I’m now more convinced that George Lucas has only ever made good films by accident.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
And Will Smith turned down the Matrix role and Mel Gibson turned down the role of batman in the first one with Michael Keaton. LINK
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I think Will Smith
would have been fucking awesome as Neo, personally.
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He’s certainly a better actor than Reeves.
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(not saying much)
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Smith is still decent in his own right.
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Yeah I like him a lot actually
just sayin, pretty sure carrot top is a better actor than keanu
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List of actors who are not better than Keanu Reeves:
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Sundrendy WIndster and EliminateMe?
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you mean the guy who played Bill?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
no. he’s a better actor than Keanu. He was also great as the terrorist who looks like Genghis Khan in Die Hard.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
hell no. I couldn’t tell you the guy’s name, but…everybody knows that. right?
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know it. I have noticed the janitor from Scrubs in a few random extra roles lately though.
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Why are you guys all replying here?
I already posted the full list.
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This
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lulz
I can just see Pacino playing opposite Chewy using his NY accent.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
“Laugh it up, you cunt. Who told you you could work with Bothans?”
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Sep 29, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
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SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
sweet
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That made a bigger difference in Harrison Ford’s career than Pacino’s. Pacino remained a star without Star Wars. Not sure Harrison Ford ever would have been a star without playing Hans Solo.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what would have happened if Tom Sellick did the Indiana Jones movies instead of Ford. If it weren’t for Magnum P.I., he would have been a lock for it.
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I thought their first choice was John Travolta
but he turned it down after reading the prelim script.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Tonight's Lineup:
Velez 2B
Torres LF
Sandoval 3B
Molina C
Uribe SS
Garko 1B
Rowand CF
Winn RF
J. Sanchez LHP
So much for Posey starting the rest of the way.
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Why do I feel like he’s going to start like 5 of the last 6 games?
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Because he is. Whiteside will start the 6th one.
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This is pretty much the same lineup Boch drew up against Doug Davis last week. The only difference is that Winn is playing and Frandsen isn’t so Geno is at 2B tonight.
The Giants had 13 hits in that game. Velez, Torres and Sandoval all went 3-5 and Garko was 2-3 with 2 walks. Still a sucky lineup IMO.
9/22 LOLineup
LF Velez
RF Torres
3B Sandoval
C Molina
SS Uribe
1B Garko
CF Rowand
2B Frandsen
P Cain
because Bengie is playing for Big Money!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
So much for Posey getting most of the starts with nothing to play for,
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FREE BUSTER POSEY
Hey, we still have a 0.04% chance of making the playoffs. We’re in it!!!
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FFFFFFUUUUU
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Ugly lineup is ugly
Does Winn still need to play? Especially against a lefty.
I give up.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
I would have liked to see something like
1. Velez LF
2. Torres CF
3. Sandoval 3B
4. Uribe SS
5. Garko 1B
6. Schierholtz RF
7. Posey C
8. Frandsen 2B
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
How dare you contradict Bochy?
HE’S A GOOD MANAGER WHO KNOWS WHAT HE’S DOING!!!
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Poor Fred. :(
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How could you say this without talking to Bochy first?
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
True but we don’t really have three outfielders who should atm.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Mine against the Lefty:
1. Torres CF
2. Rohlinger 2B
3. Sandoval 3B
4. Uribe SS
5. Garko 1B
6. Posey C
7. Schierholtz RF
8. Rowand LF
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I forgot he was even on the team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Whose doghouse?
Not Bochy’s, he doesn’t have one!
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He leases one from Sabean on the QT.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 29, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
is there a way to query the comments from the entire year for the phrase, “i would have liked to see” or “i wish the lineup looked like” or some similar phrase? i would bet it appears at least 44,000 times. God I love Bochy!
Bad joke?
I’ll give you a bad joke?
Q: What’s brown and sticky?
A: A stick.
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Your mama’s so fat, it affects her self esteem!
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Q: There once were three turtles walking head-to-tail in a straight line. The first turtle said, “There are two turtles behind me.” The second turtle said, “There’s one turtle behind me.” The third turtle said, “There are two turtles behind me.” How can this be?
A. The third turtle was lying.
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Q: Why did the punk rocker cross the road?
A: Because he was safety pinned to the chicken.
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Q: What’s red and smells like blue paint?
A: Red paint
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What happened to the girl with no arms who sat on a swing?
she fell off
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What do you call a guy with no arms and legs in a lake?
Bob
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What happened to the green troll who jumped in the orange lake?
he got wet.
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What do you call a guy with no arms and legs at your door?
Matt
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What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
A carrot.
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Q: What’s brown and rhymes with snoop?
A: Dr Dre
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by groug on Sep 29, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why does Snoop Dogg carry an umbrella?
For drizzle.
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Why does Snoop Dogg like to stir-fry?
Fo’ sizzle
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My dog has no nose.
How does he smell?
Bloody awful.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
I just flew in from New York, and boy, was my ticket expensive!
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What are the sexiest animals in the barnyard? Brown Chicken Brown Cow
Wow, that really doesn’t work in text.
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
So these three Scotsmen walk out of a bar.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
So, this baby seal walks into a club…
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/uncontrollable laughter
uncontrollable
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not sure why uncontrollable was there twice
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
You lunatic fringe types need to get a life. Bruce Bochy has unquestionably done a great job.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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He’s less tiresome against righties but it’s really the idea that he should start over Lewis and Bowker that bugs me.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
And, even though he’s played over his head (in my opinion), he’s a leadoff hitter with a .325 OBP.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
That’s his OBP since the all-star break, I should say.
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Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Meanwhile, Lewis since the break
.299 / .413 / .429.
Excuse me, I’ll be weeping in the corner for a bit.
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I GIVE UP
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 29, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It is really such a shame we wasted the #5 pick last year on a kid who can’t hit major-league hitting…
Molina and Rowand and Winn.
Awesome. Sorry to miss this one.
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I just remembered that my sig makes sense still =(
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
Then you should start learning about the minors.
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no no, the other one…
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HOLY SHIT IT WAS BUSTER FUCKING POSEY
So basically all Neukom has to do is fire Sabean and they are both gone? Maybe someone can explain to him that firing one person is easier than firing two.
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he doesn't even have to fire them
just change the locks and ignore their calls.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian was actually fired last season. He just kept showing up and working and nobody questioned it. He shows up, does a bit of work to keep up appearances and collects his check.
so...we need to fix the glitch
then it’ll just work itself out and we can avoid the confrontation.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 29, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Frankly if Bow Tie is delusional enough to keep both Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumber the best we can hope for is the 2010 Giants is land Holliday and one injury risk between Beltre or Nick Johnson( then pray the risk pays off ) before they squander the money on a Uribe extension, a Sanchez extension and another assort 2-4 other crap Veteran free agents in a usual Sabean stoned junk food binge spending spree.
Excuse me now but I have to go continue the dry heaves this article started.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Here's to hoping Neukom changes his mind last minute
DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES? YES!
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by jctGamer on Sep 29, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Favorite sports moment ever. I’m sure it’ll be surpassed if the Sharks win a Cup, or if the Giants win the World Series, but right now Al Michael’s call and the sheer improbability of the US winning that game makes it stand alone.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
Fun With Numbers...
Just for fun, look at the relevant splits of four of the position players starting tonight:
BA OBP SLG
Winn As RHB 0.161 0.184 0.203
Garko @ATT 0.095 0.138 0.095
Velez As RHB 0.182 0.230 0.236
Rowand vs LHP 0.209 0.256 0.374
0.173 0.209 0.255
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Sep 29, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
As much as I hate Bochy
This organization will never change unless Sabean gets gone. This article confirms it.
The baseball Satanist
Replacements?
Criticisms of Bochy and Sabean are fair. What I would like to see are obvious replacement ideas with strong support as to why they would make good candidates.
Firing people doesn’t solve things with a worse replacement. Duh, we know. So who would you want filling the role of GM? Because a new GM undoubtedly means new people running your scouting and player development departments. New managerial candidates are a little easier to pinpoint.
So who would you have manage the lineups of THIS team and oversee the construction and maintenance of this team long term?
When you start with, say, Sandy Alderson, please don’t ignore the lack of championships ever won by his teams, or the mass dysfunction of egos he left San Diego with.
When you talk about available managerial candidates, please don’t overlook whatever reason it is that they are currently unemployed. And if they had success in the past, was it with a team built similarly to these Giants (has anyone ever been built so offensively offensive)?
And when you say Ron Wotus, please expand upon what it is about him that makes him your favorite candidate. And not because of anything you read in the paper.
Thank you!
Full disclosure: I have not regularly read this blog every single day from 2007-2009 when anger was mounting, so undoubtedly what I am asking for could live deep within the archives in many examples… just seemingly not many lately in GDT’s or above.
Sandy Alderson
Was GM of the A’s from 83-97. 4 division titles, 3 pennants and a World Series Championship.
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