Predict the 2010 opening day roster
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
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Grant's front page post got me thinking about how I expect the team to look next year. I was playing around and came up with a roster - NOT what I WANT to see, but what I'm expecting. Here it is:
Rotation:
Tim Lincecum RHP
Matt Cain RHP
Barry Zito LHP
Jonathan Sanchez LHP
Brad Penny RHP
Bullpen:
Brian Wilson RHP
Sergio Romo RHP
Jeremy Affeldt LHP
Brandon Medders RHP
Waldis Joaquin RHP
Dan Runzler LHP
Some Medoicre FA or Non-Tendered RHP
Lineup:
1) Eugenio Velez / Andres Torres LF
2) Freddy Sanchez 2B
3) Juan Uribe 3B
4) Pablo Sandoval 1B
5) Bengie Molina / Buster Posey C
6) Aaron Rowand CF
7) John Bowker / Nate Schierholtz RF
8) Edgar Renteria SS
Bench:
Ryan Rohlinger 3B/2B
Jamey Carroll or someone like that INF
Before you tell me I have too many bench players, note how many platoons I have pencilled in.
What do y'all expect?
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LOL FRED
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by jhiat00 on Sep 28, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m pretty sure he’s gone. Sigh.
I sort of forgot about Ishikawa when I was doing this. I have no idea what’ll be done with him.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Lewis is given a chance. I’m definately not sold on Velez/Torres in LF.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect them both to be lousy.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Also Forgot About Ryan Garko.
by giantsrainman on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
non-tender
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I didn’t. I said I don’t think he’ll be back.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He Was Blinded By HIs Igronance
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, it already occurs to me that the Schierholtz / Bowker platoon is crazy talk. No way would Bochy share time between two lefties – especially when both are young. Maybe we sign someone like Marlon Byrd or something.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your optimism is killing me today.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try!
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to be actually kind of quasi-optimistic and go with
SP Tim Lincecum
SP Matt Cain
SP Barry Zito
SP Brad Penny
SP Madison Bumgarner
LRP Joey Martinez
MRP Brandon Medders
MRP Waldis Joaquin
MRP Dan Runzler
SU Jeremy Affeldt
SU Sergio Romo
CL Brian Wilson
C Buster Posey
1B Pablo Sandoval
2B Freddy Sanchez
SS Juan Uribe
3B Dan Uggla
LF Eugenio Velez
CF Aaron Rowand
RF John Bowker
Bench
C Eli Whiteside
IF Edgar Renteria
IF yeah someone like Jamey Carroll
OF Andres Torres
OF Nate Schierholtz
meh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez for Uggla?
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by jhiat00 on Sep 28, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, something like that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be down for that or possibly trade for a 1B and keep Panda at 3rd. Whatever forces GINTS BRAZZ to make Rent a backup and put Uribe at SS.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Or even pick up a better SS. But they NEED to add a plus infielder.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have predictions for the Penny and Uriibe contracts? And despite Sabean’s “comment” at the chalk talk – Sanchez, arb or mulit year contract?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, didn’t mean arb. Exercising option or multi-year contract?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez – despite the undoubtedly, I think he’ll try to sign him to something like 2y10mil
Uribe – similar
Penny – maybe one year, 7-8 million
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/picks up spork & starts stabbing self in the eye repeatedly
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 28, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you about the Sanchez #s, and that is also what Baggs speculated after talking with Sabean last week.
Uribe should be a little less, no? Certainly when compared to Sanchez; they had very different careers coming into this year. I’m thinking two year $7/8 million.
And I’m guessing Penny starts with a lower base. $4 million? But with incentives to get up to $8/$10 million.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Penny shown any signs of wanting to stay here? I got the impression he only signed with us because he was looking to join a team in a playoff race. I also thought he said he was open to returning to the AL East.
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by boonitez on Sep 29, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He certainly came here looking to polish his resume for a FA market bump.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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by Roger on Sep 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_13449708
Penny prefers to play for a West Coast team and could see himself with the Giants next season, but he sounded like a man who will let market forces determine his fate.
“We’ll see,” Penny said. “I’ve loved it here, but I haven’t thought about next year yet.”
by m34josh on Sep 29, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wants to play for a West Coast team, I could only see SF, ANA or SEA. No way San Diego or Oakland pays for him and no way he’ll go back to the Dodgers.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
by SFGuy on Sep 30, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement of his team. Sounds like he cares more about the money.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
by boonitez on Sep 30, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are people a little worried about Bowker in RF? He seemed worse in LF than I remember him being before.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Sep 28, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He misplayed that one ball in the 9th last night. I’m not really concerned about his defense though – he’s solid enough and hopefully the bat would make up for it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If choosing between Fred and Bowkermania, who would you rather have in RF?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Sep 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowker
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant to add the other one could play left, so it’s purely a question of defense.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not one of the options and Schierholtz is not a good hitter.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Sep 30, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is Uggla a better candidate for 3b than Sandoval? Switch them and I can see it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he has a pretty weak arm, so 3d wouldn’t even be an option
by Lobsterkite on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he can't play an average 2nd, i doubt he can play an average third
plus, he doesn’t have the best arm
by sfoakbay on Sep 28, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty good.
However, if Edgar is 90% healthy, he’s going to start which means either Uribe or an Uggala-type is out of the picture.
Although, J. Sanchez for Uggala is a trade worth pursuing.
by hokysmksbw on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s why I said “quasi-optimistic”. Obviously, if Edgar is actually healthy enough to play, he’ll be starting.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn’t healthty most of THIS year, and he was starting!
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by Little Napoleon on Sep 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A potentially dominant southpaw is worth a lot more to a team than a low-average power bat. Especially in ATT.
by fantastical on Oct 1, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At what age do you sacrifice his potential for a team that needs offense real bad? He is going to be 28 next season coming off a career low whip of 1.37. His value may never be higher than it is now
by m34josh on Oct 2, 2009 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To anyone who thinks that Rent will not be the starting SS next year
Read this article on Rent’s surgery.
Sabes and Bochy verbally fellate Rent for being such a gamer yada yada yada. If they are back, Rent starts at SS.
/autodefenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 28, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean's Quote from the article
“Sabean credited Renteria for his intangible contributions, which helped compensate for his struggles on the field.
“He had a huge influence, in a really professional and quiet way, on a lot of the younger players, especially Pablo [Sandoval],” Sabean said. “He took Pablo under his wing early in Spring Training and stayed true to that throughout the year.” ’
Sabean has become a parody of himself.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he's just saying that to be nice
The alternative is too horrifying.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it weren't for that second shoulder injury,
Edgar’s reputation alone would have been money down the stretch, nerds!
by hokysmksbw on Sep 28, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Pee on ry failz!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF!?!?!? J Sanch for uggla u are insane in the membrane. Lol J Sanch when he’s good he is better than anyone on this pitching staff maybe even in baseball. The guy is great and young if u like him that much trade freddy and some other guy. Sorry jay, but failed horribly really horribly. So don’t ever even speak of sanchez giant’s gem like that!!!
by waffles on Sep 29, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
Do you just drink like three 40s of OE before you post or something?
by taliesin on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he had any sense (which he doesn’t) he would’ve picked Mickeys.
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by boonitez on Sep 29, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
better than anyone in baseball? wut?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 29, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're fun
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by groug on Sep 29, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly waffles
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Sep 30, 2009 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pity the fans.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/rosterbates furiously!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
fap fap fap fap
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by jhiat00 on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, the sexy lady (NLDS) left us, so it’s all that’s left!
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pass the baby wipes.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time you rosterbate
God kills a kitten
by KrazyKrabMeat on Sep 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time you rosterbate
God kills a kittenSabean and Bochy destroy the confidence of a young player
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I PREDICT LOLINEUP!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Sep 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Molina LOL
It’s hard for me to see him back because…
a) He wants to start still
b) He’ll want a 2 yr/$10 million deal
c) The Giants should not spend $5 mil a year on Bengie with Buster making $400k and use the money elsewhere – i.e. a real corner OF.
Also, I don’t see Penny back because he also wants a multi-year deal worth at least $3-5 million per year and again Giants can use the money elsewhere instead of a #5 starter.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Sep 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
in the little faith i have in sabes and bork, i beiieve they will tell lolina to GTFO (nicely, obviously, for they wouldn’t want to hurt his feelings)
by sfoakbay on Sep 28, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There seemed to be growing friction between Bengie and the FO with his not playing through injuries and coldness to Posey as well as his sensitivities. I don’t see a chance they bring him back
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Sep 28, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Penny stays?
MadBum in Fresno?
Bengie shares with Posey?
FLew, Ishi, Garko (presumably) traded for non-MLB players or cash?
WUT
by KrazyKrabMeat on Sep 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bumgarner absolutely needs a year in Fresno.
A month ago, I never expected Molina to be back. But the way the Giants have clung to him, and even started Whiteside over Posey – and with Posey starting 1/10 and thus sucking – I’m increasingly expecting a stupid Molina contract extension.
I assume Garko gets non-tendered an Lewis gets dumped, yeah. Like I said, I forgot about Ishikawa. Maybe he’ll be back – the Giants seem to like to carry multiple first basemen.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Penny, I really have no idea.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
madbum shoud stay in fresno
i doubt penny is back, and i think bengie is out. also, i’m pretty sure K FRED and one of garko/ishi are out
by sfoakbay on Sep 28, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is depressing. One of the few players on the current roster who makes sense in any line up againt RH pitching is Lewis. Velez is a utility/futility guy at best, and Torres is OK as a fifth OF. Sabean…
by koel on Sep 28, 2009 1:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I should also say
I fully expect them to make at least a few moves I can’t possibly anticipate here. But given Sabean’s track record, I don’t expect them to be good moves, or to change the fundamentals of the team.
I’d love to be wrong, though!
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I fully expect them to make at least a few moves I can’t possibly anticipate here.
I fully agree.
I wouldn’t dare make any predictions, except to say that it’s probably going to be a long (and possibly strange) off-season. We all got a sniff of the old juice, so it’s hard to imagine the FO leaning toward status quo. Timmy’s payday will be a sharp reminder of how the pitching clock is ticking.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Sep 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I save my serious rosterbation for the offseason. Otherwise, I tend to get sore.
by BigO on Sep 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
jcb a bit premature again.
Back in the day, we waited, like until November.
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
by foothillsfan on Sep 28, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-(
:-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bowker must play.
Bowker needs his shot next year, and he will produce a lot more runs than Velez as a starter. I would like to see an outfield with Bowker right, Lewis Left, and Schierholtz in center, with Velez and Torres as backups. Had enough of Rowand. Lewis could be removed for fielding purposes late in the game. Third could be Uribe, ss unfortunately Renteria, 2b, could be Sanchez, or if not, Frandsen,/Velez, First Pablo/ishi. Catcher Posey and new backup. Bowker has needed power. Torres can hit from the right side, velez can hit from the left side, they make a reasonable platoon. Freddie Lewis can get on base. Schierholtz is a lot cheaper than Rowand. Uggla will hit at least 25 homers, but he will also hit around 240. Not sure how giants fans will go for that. We have a lot of time to see what shakes.
by bradleybear on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, why was this a reply to me?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
COOKYMAN IS SAD :-(
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Sep 28, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I really see the brass addressing the offense by going after Holliday strong and reading something like “few impact bats available”. I hope they don’t pursue him, not because i hate Holliday, but that dude is going to be grossly overpaid like Beltran was.
My point is that this FA year sucks the big walrusman, so it’s best to try to find a couple of inflated markets (like 2B) and browse a bit. The idea that we are stuck with Sanchez is horrible thinking, Alderson is a sunk cost and keeping Sanchez around purely because we made that trade is awful. See what it would take for a couple of trades like Crawford or Upton or Uggla.
I like Adrian Beltre for the Giants as it could help Renteria a ton, Sandoval can pick it at 1B. Hopefull he could be had for a reasonable contract and would allow us to implant some bone spurs in his ankle.
Whatever it is, i just hope we don’t go overspending in this FA year and then we can’t make moves in the following year where there is a ton more talent coming loose.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Beltran hasn’t been grossly overpaid. He’s made roughly $76.6 million as a Met so far, while being worth $95.2 million.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it’s just a hunch because of how hot he got hot for the Astros and then cashed in. Nevertheless i’m very worried Holliday will get paid to be a superstar while only being a great player.
by Giant Voodoo on Sep 28, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's not my money
I’d be very happy with “great” being paid like “superstar”. At this point, I’m just about okay with Zito (“alright”) being paid like a superstar, and I can almost deal with Rowand (“meh”) being paid like a star.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That said
After seeing Holliday dog it for the A’s, and considering the likelihood he signs with the Cards, I would rather Jason Bay. A 3-4-5 of Sandoval, Bay, Posey could be beautiful. Of course, if you sign Bay, who do you bat leadoff with? I think you have to keep Winn (for defense as well):
Winn RF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Bay LF
Posey C
Uribe SS
Rowand CF
Garkishikawa 1B
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you have to keep Winn at all.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would your RF/leadoff alternative be?
Alternatively, I understand if people don’t want a Bay acquisition, but I’m just trying to work within that construct for a moment.
Also, I’d love to inclewd Flew in my plans, but I doubt he will still be around :(
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, if you’re going to bring back Randy Winn simply because he’s the thing that looks the most like a leadoff hitter would be silly — especially since the dude does not hit like an 8th place hitter this year, let alone a leadoff hitter. I’d rather stick Bowker at leadoff than Randy.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
List of players I’d prefer in the leadoff spot (or anywhere, as long as Winn isn’t playing):
Torres
Schierholtz
Velez
Posey
F. Sanchez
Rowand
Cain
Mays (that wheelchair would make him unpredictable on the basepaths!)
If Winn is back, we have to pay him at least $400,000, which is about three times as much as he’ll be worth. And he’ll be taking a roster spot from a far more deserving OF prospect/FA (which covers pretty much anyone else)
by quincy0191 on Oct 5, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Now that is an outfield full of grossly overpaid veteran gamer goodness. Perhaps we can haz Eric Byrnes as 4th OF?
Thing A
by sam23 on Sep 28, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Winn is back I may kill a drifter.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How sick is it that I that I was thinking the same thing?
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
c- molina
1b- garko/ishi
2b-sanchez
ss- edgar/uribe
3b- pablo
lf- winn
cf- rowand
rf- matt stairs (dingerz+vetranism)
bench: anyone under 32
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by The Thrill on Sep 28, 2009 3:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
MATT STAIRS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This seems like the most realistic prediction so far (except Winn would play RF with Stairs in left). It gives me the fear.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: the fear
Take some ether. Or if you’re feeling saucy, maybe some pure adrenaline.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pain
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SCIENCE
by CB30 on Sep 28, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rosterbation with a happy ending
Trade Cain for Fielder
Sign Abreu (2 yrs max)
Sign Sheets or Duchscherer
Decline option on F. Sanchez
2B-Velez
SS-Rentaria (unfortunately)
3B-Pablo
1B-Fielder
LF-Abreu
C-Posey
RF- Nate
CF-Rowand (unfortunately)
Timmy
Zito
Sheets/Duchscherer
Sanchez
5th starter filler till MadBum is ready
Bullpen is set
Thoughts?
by ACgiant97 on Sep 28, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheets or Duchscherer would be great targets.
Cain for Fielder FFFFFFFFFFUUU but for some reason Fielder does seem kind of like he’s destined to be a Giant.
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by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and I say no thanks as well from the opposite view.
by JetSam on Sep 28, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
… Fielder does seem kind of like he’s destined to be a Giant.
How come?
Also: DUCHSCHERER. I want to get him just to see how many times the Merc can fuck that up in headlines (not in the copy).
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think he should pronounce his name “Duck Shearer”. And if he’s not gonna step up and do it, I think we should pronounce it that way for him.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 28, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To start an offensive line with Pablo, Bengie, Garko and Uribe. Renteria plays tight end.
I like that line-up and do not hate a Cain/Fielder trade. I hate to say, but I think this a good time to trade Cain with his ERA lowered by a a very low BABIP. His FIP (career and ‘09) is about the same as J. Sanchez’s. Fielder is a perenial All-Star level hitter and youngish. But he is over wieght and I worry about how those body types age.
Also, I sense that is the type of move Sabean would make in order to acquire a big bat.
I like Abreau for the money, however those $s may end up going to F. Sanchez. Sigh.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must meet minimum fat requirement for the lineup...
minus Bengie and uribe, Prince would be a 2-fer.
by hokysmksbw on Sep 28, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but for some reason Fielder does seem kind of like he’s destined to be a Giant.
It won’t be until he’s 1 year past his prime.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 29, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't a happy ending supposed to make me feel good?
To get Fielder, you give up pitching. To get Bay, you give up dollars.
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by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the prospect of Sheets or Duchscherer on an incentive-laden contract
by Lobsterkite on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As does every rosterbation-o-rama by fans of every team.
by JetSam on Sep 28, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stopped reading after “Trade Cain”
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by ResDog on Sep 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree on Bobby Abreu…if we can’t get Fielder, Abreu should hit 4th. He fits our small-ball offensive scheme: a guy who drove in 100 RBI by hitting less than 20 HR.
by Bimski on Sep 29, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With his OBP and speed, I would rather have him higher than that personally
by m34josh on Sep 29, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repeating from elsewhere
Abreu has 100 RBI because everyone in the Angels lineup has an above average OBP.
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by Natto on Sep 29, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt that Penny will be back next year.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1+
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
by SeeingStars on Sep 28, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But its a Sabean type signing, isn’t it? Start with a lower base with a lot of incentives? First thing on Sabean’s agenda when he gets rehired.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I predict
whatever lineup they come up with won’t score many runs. The pitching will probably be pretty OK though.
79… eh… 83 wins.
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by zenbitz on Sep 28, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
didnt they already hint that they werent going to resign penny? or did i imagine that?
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by Headhunter Rollins on Sep 28, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Line Up
C-Posey/Miguel Olivo
1B-Sandoval (and we trade Either Garko or Ishikawa)
2B-Sanchez (resigned for 2-3-9-14 Million)
SS-Renteria
3B-Uribe
LF-Holliday (hopeful)-Bowker (realistic)
CF-Sigh. Rowand.
RF-Schierholtz
SP-Lincecum
SP-Cain
SP-Sanchez
SP-Zito
SP-Todd Wellemeyer (obscure i know but he could keep the seat warm until MadBum is ready)
LR-Martinez
MR-Runzler
MR-Joaquin
MR-Medders
MR-Valdez (yeah I know he sucks but if he wasn’t DFA’d this year will he ever be?)
SU-Affeldt
SU-Romo
CL-Wilson
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MIGUEL OLIVO?
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by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a FA
I know his OBP is awful but he’s got solid power and could be a sort of Bengie Molina Lite and could be a decent back up
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Sep 28, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, I just think that Bochy might lean too much Olivo’s way if Buster struggles next season.
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats true
I definitely think that if the Giants sign him he should be a definite back up and not like a platoon type player
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Sep 28, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think our other catcher besides Posey should be a fringe starter like Olivo
other options could be Jason Kendall or Brian Schneider.
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Sep 29, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who thinks Joe Martinez should be given another chance as a starter? Or that has some confidence that the Giants will give him another look before banishing him to long relief duty?
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by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty much
unless you want to give him 4-5 starts the first month just to be SURE that he can’t cut it as a starter. and only if he looks good out of spring training
by sfoakbay on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are all alone my friend
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Sep 28, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What have you seen that makes you think he might have even 5th starter stuff? Because, great story though it was, he’s been pretty terrible since he’s been back.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As terrible as he has been, it’s hard for me to write him off after 30 MLB innings pitched, especially since he came into the season as a reasonable option for the back end.
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by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t mind seeing him given a shot to earn the 5th starter spot in Spring Training. He needs some competition though.
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by ResDog on Sep 29, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
C – Buster Posey
1B – Prince Fielder
2B – Freddy Sanchez
SS – Edgar Renteria
3B – Pablo Sandoval
LF – Eugenio Velez
CF – Aaron Rowand
RF – Marlon Byrd
SP – Tim Lincecum
SP – Barry zito
SP – Jonathan Sanchez
SP – Madison Bumgarner
SP – Brad Penny
Reserve : John Bowker, Eli Whiteside, Andres Torres, Nate Schierholtz, Juan Uribe
Bullpen : Jeremy Affeldt, Sergio Romo, Joe Martinez, Dan Runzler, Brandon Medders, Brian Wilson, Waldis Joaquin.
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by jctGamer on Sep 28, 2009 5:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, this one is easy
Bochy, Sabean return:
C – Benji Molina/Eli Whiteside
1B – Pablo Sandoval
2B – Freddy Sanchez
SS – Edgar Renteria
3B – Jose Uribe
LF – Eugenio Velez/Torres
CF – Aaron Rowand
RF – Randy Winn/Nate
SP – Tim Lincecum
SP – Matt Cain
SP – Barry Zito
SP – Jonathan Sanchez
SP – Brad Penny (or maybe a Tom Glavine/John Smoltz)
If Bochy and Sabean don’t return:
Haha, whatever. We have a winning year! Bochy is a supergenius who managed to win games with a team full of hackers who’d swing at a pitch out.
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Sep 28, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bringing back Jose Uribe would be impressive.
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by Natto on Sep 28, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But not a bad idea, nonetheless. Its been a while since we’ve had some 40+s on this team and if you’ve noticed, we haven’t been winning much.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zombies are fast now
It might work!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for those goofy Giants TV ads as well.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And skinny!
This team needs more skinny
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Sep 28, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, I wouldn’t even be slightly surprised if this is what the team looks like next year.
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by jponry on Sep 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bochy only likes em old
Matt Cain's right hand beats a Royal Flush.
by Viva Gigantes on Sep 28, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I smell a Walrusman joke coming…
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 29, 2009 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also get Fielder vibe
Lets go with
C- Schnieder/Posey
1B- Fielder
2B- Velez
SS- Rent
3B- Sandavol
LF- Bowker/Torres/Lewis
CF- Rowand
RF- Abreu
Off-season rumor that never materializes- Giants in serious discussion with Rays about Upton or Crawford for Wilson ultimatley resulting with the Rays realizing they could just sign a closer.
SP
Lincecum
Zito
Harden
Sanchez
Penny
May be spending to much, i see Nuekom opening up his wallet
by giantsrockdudes on Sep 28, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rays don't really need a closer
Their closer-by-committee approach worked most of this season.
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Err
Nevermind.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love it if the Giants don’t sign F. Sanchez, but its likely they will, which restricts other transactions.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 28, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My turn
I had the same thought about figuring out the roster, my plan of figuring out exact contract and the like would take more time than I have.
GM: David Forst
Manager: Ron Wotus
Lincecum signed to extention
Akinori Iwamura signed for 2 yrs/11 mil with a 6 mil team option for a 3rd year
Justin Duscherer signed for 1 year/ 3 mil, with a mutual option for a second at 4.5 mil
Brett Tomko signed to a 1yr/ 1 Mil contract
Uribe signed to a 2 year/ 8 mil deal
Renteria DFA’d
Rotation
T. Lincecum
B. Zito
M. Cain
J. Sanchez
J. Duscherer
Bullpen
LR Brett Tomko
MRP Brandon Medders
MRP Waldis Joaquin
MRP Dan Runzler
SU Sergio Romo
SU Jeremy Affeldt
CL Brian Wilson
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clicked post accidentally
LF F. Lewis
2B A. Iwamura
3B P. Sandoval
RF N. Schierholtz
SS J. Uribe
CF A. Rowand
C B. Posey
1B R. Garko
Bench
LF/RF John Bowker
LF/2B Eugenio Velez
1B Travis Ishikawa
UTIL Jerry Hairston Jr.
C Eli Whiteside
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate at cleanup? HAVENT YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON WITH BENGIE?
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by TexasRanger on Sep 28, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh. I didn’t know who to put at cleanup. Garko? Rowand? Uribe? Sandoval? FYI, If you say Posey, bodily harm will become you
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, I hope that the manager would mix in all the players. If bowker played a few games, I would bat him cleanup.
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though Nate is a hacktacular free swinger, he’s still taken more walks in 200 fewer at-bats and has an OBP roughly 30 points higher than Bengie.
Not that I actually want Schierholtz to hit cleanup. I’m just sayin’ is all.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he’s quicker at least. He’s not so fast that being between pablo and uribe would be a hindrance
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the old coolest kid with down syndrome argument though. I would say that Garko and maybe Uribe (if he can retain some of this) would be better options.
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Sep 29, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
retain some of this season, which he could. He seems to have turned himself into a ground ball hitter w/out sacrificing his power
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by TexasRanger on Sep 29, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man Iwamura would just be such a perfect signing that I know it will never happen.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s an upgrade over F. Sanchez. However, he won’t be used correctly unless there is a new managerial strategy that emphasizes smallball and stealing bases. Plus, Iwamura can play 3rd, so if the Garko/Ishi platoon fails, FBAL/Rohlinger/Hairston Jr. are at 2B with Iwamura at 3B and Sandoval sliding over to 1B
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he’s coming off an injured season….?
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
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by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but he’s playing now. Not particularly well, but hopefully he’d be 100% in five months. I figure the injury should give some kind of discount, as with Sanchez, but he’s younger and better than Sanchez.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the 2B market being so deep hurts both of them. You can get them cheaper because 2B is the deepest position in the FA market
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Which is why I don’t know why Sabes seems so stuck on Sanchez. They’re in a strong negotiating position that they seem determined to make weaker with their public statements.
by taliesin on Sep 28, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And of course negotiating is so much Sabean’s forte’. Certainly never against himself.
Sorry, cynical.
by San Francisco Slim on Sep 29, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too early for me. I don’t have enough lotion to go on all offseason if I start right now. Maybe come November I’ll be ready. But, offensively, I don’t see the Giants being much less shitty than they were this year
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by Giant among Angels on Sep 28, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You've got no lotion
I’ve got no pot
Let’s call the whole thing off
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, offensively, I don’t see the Giants being much less shitty than they were this year
That’s what I thought last season….
Oh Giants, finding new ways to underperform our expectations
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by baetown415 on Sep 28, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, I pretty much agree that we’ll see the same old hackers next year. I just don’t see us winning the Holliday or Bay sweepstakes, and the rest of the FA’s are meh. We’ll probably resign and overpay Uribe and F. Sanchez somehow and the resulting lineup is this:
LF Velez
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
SS Uribe
RF Schierholtz
1B Garko
C Posey
CF Rowand
Util: Ishikawa, Lewis, Torres, Renteria, Whiteside
ughhh….
by speedyt72000 on Sep 29, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not predicting anything. I said (not here) that the Giants would win 75 games. So I would say Garko would be a platoon at 1st with Ish and Velez in LF and the Giants would have Prince Fielder at 1st and Matt Holiday in left.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
by SFGuy on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sabean’s back
bochy’s gone
trade rowand for bradley
sign or trade for lf
sign bargain sp
c – posey
1b- garko/ish
2b – sanchez
3b – panda
ss – rent
rf – bradley
cf – velez/torres
lf – free agent/trade
bench
uribe
whiteside
bowker
sp – timmy
sp – cain
sp – zito
sp – sanchez/trade/fa
sp – filler til mad bum
cl – wilson
su – romo
su – affeldt
mr – runzler
mr – valdez
lr – medders
lr – martinez
—could also non tender/trade garko and platoon uribe and ish with panda rotating from first to third.
by travis j bagdad on Sep 28, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IF Sabean is back
I don’t see him trading his gamer for a head case. Rowand exemplifies everything that Sabean loves in a ballplayer. I don’t think he sees him as a liability. And Bradley’s reputation in the clubhouse would be enough for Sabean to not even consider this deal.
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by ResDog on Sep 29, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe there was a report that Sabean was shopping Scott after last season so he could try again
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by TexasRanger on Sep 29, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My RosterBation
Trade Rowand for Milton, use that savings towards a deal for Holliday, sign Sanchez for 2 years cheap, give Garko arbitration. Still need a fifth starter and backup infielder, would like to keep Uribe and Penny but I think both will be too expensive. If Buster isn’t ready at the start of the season, then would need a cheapo catcher too
Lineup:
Velez/Torres
Sanchez
Holliday
Panda
Bradley
TI/Garko
Buster/Whiteside/Scrub
Renteria
Pitcher
by m34josh on Sep 28, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SP:
Lincecum
Cain
Zito
Sanchez/Madbum (trade sanchez at the deadline)
Penny
Lineup:
Velez
Sanchez
J Bay
Panda
Uribe
Rowand
Renteria
Posey
by lehmsbobby on Sep 28, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Velez
Sanchez
Sandoval
Molina
Uribe
Schierholtz
Ishikawa
Rowand
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 28, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like your pragmatism
newsletter?
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dictionary?
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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Official McPokeMaster
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 28, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did I have a spelling fail?
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I just need to look up “pragmatism”
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
synonym of practicality
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by Speedforthewin on Sep 28, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to know this stuff. You’ll get similar stuff on the SATs.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
by SFGuy on Sep 29, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least you did the practical thing to do.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Sep 29, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Realistically
- Fielder will not be a Giant in 2010, he and Braun are the cornerstones of the Brewers and it would take a lot more than just Cain to get him. Also, I doubt Milwaukee is eager to move him as well.
- HolliBay won’t be a Giant in 2010 unless the Giants grossly overpay for either. Holliday will remain a Card with Pujols & company. Bay will either be in BOS or NYY where they spend a billion each off season and both will need an OF so their wallets will open.
- Winn is not coming back, unless it’s for the veteran minimum which is very doubtful. He’s clearly caught up with his age and his numbers this year does not justify a new multi-year contract at all. Au revoir, classy dude.
Giants should look for 1 or 2 “bargain” corner outfielders who aren’t looking for multi-year deals as a 1 million dollar gamble, sort of like how they got Juan Uribe last offseason. These said OFs will compete with Bowker, Schierholtz, Torres, Guzman, Lewis and Velez for starting jobs with nothing guaranteed. There’s gotta be 2 decent hitting OF’s out of those 7 or 8, right?
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Sep 28, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewers Owner thinks Fielder could be dealt
by ACgiant97 on Sep 28, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can be dealt, of course
but what is the cost? Brewers aren’t exactly like the Pirates who are always getting younger and wants to shed payroll to chase the dream that is a winning season. Prince is a legit MVP contender and will likely finish 2nd to Pujols this year.
I’ll worship the ground Sabean walks on if he can deal Cain for Fielder straight up. Another thing is even with Cain anchoring the staff, how did the Brewers improve with just Braun as their main hitter now? It’s not like they have a top prospect at 1B that can take over in 2010.
I’d kill to see Fielder in a Giants uniform as he’s in his prime now but I don’t think the Brewers will trade him unless it’s for an ace starter (which Cain can be) and other prized prospects (besides MadBum & Posey, Giants are thin in that department).
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Sep 28, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I think Will Happen. IE eww
Velez / Torres Of
Sanchez 2b
Panda 1b
Rowand Doppleganger Of
Molina C
Uribe 3b
Rowand Of
Renteria ss
What I want to Happen
Abreau Of
Sanchez 2b
Panda 3b
Uribe ss
Bowker Of
Posey / Rando Cheap Backstop
Rowand Of
Ishi 1b
w/ Nate as the 4th Outfeilder and Rent as the 5th Infeilder
by bartalac on Sep 28, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
abreu, for the millionth time
is not a NL player. you want him playing RF @ at&t? DNW. he only got TEH RIBBIEZ because almost every regular in the angels lineup is hitting at least .300
by sfoakbay on Sep 30, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu
is like Dunn lite. He is a really good hitter, but -6 runs/150 RF over his career… probably more like -10 now. He’s also going to be 36 next year.
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by zenbitz on Oct 1, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF
Ok I don’t get this obsession with Abreu, really do you wanna see this guy in right at ATT all year?
There is no way he can handle triples alley all year.
Rowand for Bradley?!?!?
Terrible idea we have great clubhouse cemistry why would you bring this loser in.
The Dodgers, A’s, and Cubs all thought it would work………..It didn’t!
We absolutly have to trade Cain for Prince at some point they have to take a chance at something.
Another idea no ones mentioned.
Sanchez, Lewis, Runzler, and Gillispe for Adrian Gonzalez.
Then you keep Cain.
You could trade a small package for BJ Upton, who the Rays want to get rid of.
I’m thinking you could get Rowand to them if we part of his salary and I’d be willing to do that.
Akinora is a bad idea on natual grass needs to have turf to get his 65 hoper through the infield.
I think you F. Sanchez, he is bound to do what he’s donw his whole career and he’s a good 2B.
by skunk5150 on Sep 29, 2009 12:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I would love that Gonzalez deal.
I don’t think the Padres would go for that. What do you think it would take to get Upton? I wouldn’t mind targeting Crawford either in trade or as a FA if the Rays don’t pick up his option.
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by icanplaythird on Sep 29, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never in a Million Years
It would take a lot more than that to get Gonzalez, for one. I dont’ think that package would be able to get Upton. And Iwamura would be a great addition because he could actually lead off for this team and be better than any leadoff hitter the Giants have had over the last couple of years.
by theimmortalbenard on Sep 29, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
The Pads almost moved him for less at the deadline, they dont wanna pay him. If we dont make a move at thim LA will. We need to try things creativly, like the Red Sox did 6 years ago.
Upton can be had cheap, they dont want him any more. Crawford will be a FA they wont pick up the option, can’t afford it.
Iwamura didnt even leadoff for the Rays when the went to the World Series, this year he did (when healthy, which btw hes hurt every year. You guys wanna get mad about Sanchez, this is the first season hes had any real injury. Iwamura would have a 25% chance of not being hurt.)
by skunk5150 on Sep 29, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iwamura would have a 25% chance of not being hurt.)
Number pulled right out of jcb9’s ass.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 29, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonzales’s contract is not expensive.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 29, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
What one of those players outside of Sanchez is desirable to the padres. Lewis, unfortunately, has no role with the Giantes. i.e. he maybe DFA’d or at the least have no use to the Giants so no real value. Runzler, while I am impressed, is a lefty bullpen arm, those are a dime a dozen. And Gillespe is a “good” defensive 3rd baseman who makes a lot of errors and doesn’t hit for power. 25 year old CF with 30-30 ability can’t be had cheap, I don’t care if they don’t want him. Teams would line up for him, thus creating a strong sellers market for the Rays. And even if they can’t afford Crawford it would be an epically bad decision to decline his option since they could trade him at 10 mil rather easily. Also, Iwamura didn’t leadoff the year they went to the WS cuz of Upton who you say can be had for cents on the dollar
by theimmortalbenard on Sep 29, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but better players than Gonzalez have been obtained for far less, heck the Pads have a history of it.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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by Roger on Sep 29, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upton and Crawford aren’t going anywhere. Upton’s stock is low so they aren’t going to get fair value in return for him. The Ray’s will pick up Crawford’s option with the money they saved in the Kazmir deal.
Your proposed deal for Adrian Gonzalez is wishful thinking. The deal will have to be centered around Bumgarner or Posey. We know Posey isn’t going anywhere, so the deal would mean parting with Bumgarner and then something like J. Sanchez and Kieschnick. I think, and maybe others can correct me, the reason teams like the Dodgers and Red Sox can make such deals is b/c their farm systems are stacked from top to bottom. Or in the Dodgers case, most of their top prospects are in the big leagues and they can afford to dangle a James Loney and Russell Martin. The Giants farm is getting there, but is very top heavy right now, making it harder for them to deal their prospects. I do like Adrian Gonzalez though. I’m sure we’ll be talking about it all off season.
by speedyt72000 on Sep 29, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least one of them will almost certainly be gone. Both is a possibility.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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by Roger on Sep 29, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it worked for the a's
got them to the playoffs. after that, not so much
by sfoakbay on Sep 30, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I would try:
SP – Lincecum
SP – Cain
SP – Zito
SP – Pucetas
SP – JMartinez
(OK, so the rotation is kinda sucky; but wait for it….We trade Jonathan Sanchez and his shiny, shiny no-hitter, plus Roger Kieshnick/ Dan Otero/ whoever else the Pads want — to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez. Not impossible, just takes some work.
C – Posey
1B – AGonzalez (return for Sanchez +)
2B – Downs (cheap local filler)
3B – Sandoval
SS – Uribe
LF – Bowker (cheap local filler)
CF – Rowand (sorry, after AGonzalez, I’m fresh out of ideas)
RF – Schierholtz
FLewis 4th OF, Torres 5th OF
Renteria begins the year at SS – when he fails, backup Uribe takes over
Rohlinger other INF backup.
Whiteside backup C.
Garko?
I could imagine:
CF – Rowand (remember when he was good at leadoff?)
C – Posey (hopefully, less pressure here and better pitches to hit)
1B – Gonzalez
3B – Sandoval
LF – Bowker
SS – Uribe
RF – Schierholtz
2B – Downs
Oh yeah -
RP – Wilson
RP – Affeldt
RP – Romo
RP – Runzler
RP – Medders
RP – Miller
RP – Joaquin
If the Pads were just desperate for us to include Medders, or Miller, or Romo, or whomever, I would do that as well.
So yes, our starting pitching would be much weaker – but we’d actually score some runs. We might even be able to count on wins when Tim and Matt pitch. Zito would have a fighting chance to be a .500 pitcher (yes, I know W-L is a lousy measurement). We’d be hoping Pucetas and Martinez didn’t suck too badly. Maybe Bumgarner is ready in July, although my guess is he’ll need at least a year in AAA.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Sep 29, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what?
Why would the Padres do that? Gonzalez is worth a ton, and Sanchez + mediocre prospects won’t get it done. You want to talk Bumgarner? That’s a start, but don’t think they’ll take anything less.
Also, Rowand wasn’t good because he was a leadoff hitter. He was good at the same time he was a leadoff hitter. Big difference.
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by groug on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I wasn’t claiming that Rowand was a good leadoff hitter, per se. Mostly just reminiscing about the good old days. The weakness with my lineup, as I see it, is a lack of a good leadoff hitter. Rowand did okay for awhile when he was there – MAYBE he could recapture the magic. I agree though – probably not.
I’d be very happy to substitute Bumgarner for Sanchez in my proposed Gonzalez deal. That would give us a better team next year, and MadBum is no certain deal. We would be somewhat pitching-light in the minors at that point, and very reliant on Zach Wheeler turning out well. As such, I’d lean toward selecting a pitcher in the first round next June.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Sep 30, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well..
Go out and look at what other teams think about Sanchez. They love him, we watch him all the time so we see the good and the bad. but everyone sees him and thinks we can harness that and make him better.
Especially Bud Black, why wouldnt he look what he did with Kevin Correa.
If we want a bat we have to try and maek something happen, thats all Im sayin.
by skunk5150 on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here are a few guesses. Some of these are alternative versions
SP Tim Lincecum
SP Matt Cain
SP Barry Zito
SP Justin Duchscherer
SP Madison Bumgarner
SP – other fill-ins to be called up every so often (Sadowski, Pucetas, etc.)
LRP Joey Martinez
MRP Brandon Medders
MRP Waldis Joaquin
MRP Dan Runzler
SU Jeremy Affeldt
SU Sergio Romo
CL Brian Wilson
C Buster Posey / Ronny Paulino
1B Pablo Sandoval / Jesus Guzman (Nick Johnson?)
2B Freddy Sanchez
SS Juan Uribe
3B Dan Uggla (Adrian Beltre?)
LF Eugenio Velez / John Bowker
CF Aaron Rowand / Andres Torres
RF Nate Schierholtz
Bench
IF Edgar Renteria
Matt Downs may get called upon again
Ishikawa
I predict Fred Lewis will end up on the Padres
Eric Byrnes signs a minor league contract with the Giants
by coicoy on Sep 30, 2009 2:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ideas
Timmy
Cain
Zito
Penny/Sanchez (RE SIGN PLEASE)
Sanchez/MadBum
Joey
Medders
Waldis
Runzler
Affeldt
Romo
B-Dub
Merkin?
Scott Eyre back on a 1yr
C BP (backup Eli or outside the org)
1B Pablito
2B Sanchez (please re-sign)
SS Uribe
3B Blalock (you know Giants brass have been salavating over him for years)
LF Eugenio Velez / John Bowker/Random stop gap/Torres
CF Rowand
RF Nate
Bench
TI/Gark Knight
Rohlinger
Winn (?)
Jesus
Rentawreck (or just eat contract)
Please Jettison Frandsen and Lewis
by kezargiants on Oct 1, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, it worked for Charlie Manuel!
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by Natto on Oct 1, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OP is pretty on point, except I’d put Bumgarner into the bullpen for long relief. That way Bochy can yank a starter in the early innings if he looks in trouble and not have to worry about overtaxing the bullpen. If anyone in the rotation (even Zito and his millions) is lagging, switch Bumgarner in.
I also wouldn’t rule out the chance for a major free agent signing this offseason. The giants have built a reputation as a fun team to play for, and their young talent is enormous. Playing for a team that has a chance to dominate for years to come has to look attractive to guys like Jason Bay (must be sick of playing second fiddle to the Yankees every year).
by fantastical on Oct 1, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LF – Andres Torres/Eugenio Velez
2B – Freddy Sanchez
1B – Pablo Sandoval
RF – Jermaine Dye
C – Bengie Molina
3B – Juan Uribe
CF – Aaron Rowand
SS – Edgar Renteria
Bench – Matt Downs, Eli Whiteside, Fred Lewis, Nate Schierholtz, Ryan Garko
SP – Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Sanchez, Penny
RP – Wilson, Romo, Affeldt, Runzler, Medders, Valdez
Offense fixed.
Also, Sabean will get the Padres’ new G.M. to take acid and agree to a retroactive Tim Alderson/Angel Villalona/Scott Barnes for Adrian Gonzalez swap.
by Grant on Oct 4, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1. Molina, Winn need to go.
2. Why pay 6, 7 mil a year for F. Sanchez when for the same price we can get a sparkplug like Brian Roberts for the same price. Roberts will match Sanchez in obp, doubles, BA, and defense, and will beat him with more steals and more HRs. I’m tired of hearing that we need to get something out of Sanchez because Alderson was traded for him…Alderson is gone either way. Making bad decisions based on sentiment is what has put the Giants in salary holes over the past decade. Same thing with Renteria…he’s not playing good ball, give the spot to a guy who is.
3. Why are people proposing spending 5+ mil on a number 5 starter. We have the best 1-4 in baseball. Sh*t, I’ll pitch in the #5 slot for minimum wage and the rotation would still be better than average. Let Martinez/Lowry/Burgamer/Sadowski have a crack at it. I’m sure one of them can put up at least mediocre numbers…save the 5mm for the offense.
4. I’d love to see a Jermaine Dye power/defensive threat in the lineup, but I’m not sure we can afford him. If not, I’d love to see a low budget high potential signing like Xavier Nady or Rick Ankiel. I give it to Nady over Ankiel (even though I love Ankiel’s defense) because he’s right handed to give some balance to the platoons (Lewis, Bowker, Schierholtz all LH). Worst case, Nady/Ankiel get hurt/under perform again, and we’ve got a platoon OF. Best case scenario, we’ve got an offensive threat for pennies on the dollar to bring balance to our offense.
Brian Roberts 2B
Buster Posey C
Pablo Sandoval 3B
Juan Uribe SS
Travis Ishikawa/Ryan Garko 1B
John Bowker LF/Freddie Lewis LF/Xavier Nady/ RF
Aaron Rowand CF
Eugenio Velez/Nate Schieurholtz
Eli Whiteside C
Travis Ishikawa/Ryan Garko 1B
Edgar Renteria SS
Andres Torres OF
John Bowker/ (1B/LF)Xavier Nady OF/Freddie Lewis OF
Eugenio Velez (2B/LF)/Nate Schieurholtz OF
I think this lineup is a major improvement over last year’s opening day lineup:
C Bengie Molina – Buster Posey
We’ll lose some power, and the veteran leadership, but having a higher OBP, and Posey’s ability to run faster than a paper bag and I think this is an even trade.
1B Travis Ishikawa – Travis Ishikawa/Ryan Garko
I don’t know why people are so hard on Ishikawa. I see him developing into a 20hr, gold glove defense kind of guy. Garko to spell him against LHPs, he can’t be any worse than he was this year. Improvement
2B Emmanual Burriss/Kevin Fransden – Brian Roberts (or Freddie Sanchez)
An established veteran in this slot will be a huge upgrade over the 2nd base by committee over last year. Improvement
3B Pablo Sandoval – Pablo Sandoval
Another year to improve. He’s developing into a 30hr/100rbi kind of guy. Improvement
SS Edgar Renteria – Juan Uribe
Uribe is a good ballplayer. He was good in Chicago (when he played), and he’s been good in SF. It’s hard not to get better production than Renteria provided…Improvement
LF – Fred Lewis – Fred Lewis/John Bowker/Eugenio Velez
All 3 have their upside, and one of them has to hit…right? Improvement
CF Aaron Rowand – Aaron Rowand
I really wish people would get off Rowand’s back. No, he’s not the answer to our prayers and yes, he’s overpaid. But he’s a good balplayer who plays great defense and hustles every play. No one would be complaining about Rowand’s production if there were a couple other guys in the lineup to take the spotlight off of Rowand. Don’t blame the player for management’s poor decision. The guy is still a 15-20 hr/60-80 rbi gold glove defense player…I’ll take that. Neutral
RF Randy Winn – Xavier Nady/Nate Schieurholtz
Anyone is better than this noodle wielder in RF. This will be addition by subtraction. Big improvement.
by AndrewWK on Oct 4, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Opening day lineup
LF – Eugenio Velez
2B – Freddy Sanchez
3B – Pablo Sandoval
SS – Juan Uribe
RF – Milton Bradley
CF – B.J. Upton
1B – Travis Ishikawa
C – Buster Posey
P – Tim Lincecum
by StickRat on Oct 6, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineup approaching "league average" without acquisitions, based on '09 production:
Lewis LF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Uribe SS
Posey C
Rowand CF
Bowker RF
Garkikawa 1B
I think that would have been an optimal lineup for us to use by the end of this season.
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by hairball on Oct 6, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A winning team...
Here’s a winning team:
1. Trade Sanchez, Romo, Lewis for BJ Upton
2. Sign Adrian Beltre, Erik Bedard, Juan Uribe, Freddy Sanchez, Eric Byrnes and most importantly: Norichika Aoki
3.New manager needed: Bob Brenley or Mike Matheny
Lineup:
1. Aoki RF
2. Sanchez 2B
3. Upton CF
4. Sandoval 1B
5. Beltre 3B
6. Posey C
7. Uribe SS
8. Rowand LF
Rotation:
1. Lincecum RHP
2. Bedard LHP
3. Cain RHP
4. Zito LHP
5. Bumgarner LHP
Panda 4 Prez
by KingChronic on Oct 10, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My dream lineup
LF Holliday
RF J.Bay
CF Bradley
1B Fielder
2B Uggla
3B Panda
SS Uribe
C Posey/Molina
Rotation
Lincecum
Cain
Bum
Zito
Sanchez
Bullpen is good
assuming we trade away our whole farm system, this lineup comes to mind
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by SabeanPlusBochyEqualsEpicFailure on Oct 11, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Get me this...
Trade Sanchez, Lewis, Garko for Hardy and Gamel
Sign Bobby Abreu
Sign Norichika Aoki
1. Norichika Aoki- LF
2. Sanchez- 2B
3. Abreu- RF
4. Sandoval- 1B
5. Gamel- 3B
6. Hardy- SS
7. Posey- C
8. Rowand- CF
Panda 4 Prez
by KingChronic on Oct 11, 2009 7:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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