Milton Bradley for Aaron Rowand? Wouldja?
This is all just talk, but rumors and chatter sometimes have a way of coming true. Your thoughts.
about 1 month ago
Mayor of 311
53 comments
0 recs |
Email
PrintComments
yes
less money. less years.
less sliders 3 feet off the plate swung at .
we can find somebody to play center field with the offensive production of rowand
.262/.318./426 we can find that. GET R DUN SABES!!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 26, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus, when Bradley gets hurt/suspended we get to start the outfielders that should be out there everyday anyway. win/win/noWinn?
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Sep 26, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I strangely find myself saying yes. This is not because it think it actually the logical choice, but because it is a repudiation of a current philosophical thread.
Wisconsin: Famous for dairy, Ryan Rohlinger and not much else.
by Scottsdale on Sep 26, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hell no.
I didn’t want him before he was a fan-hating suspension-gaining injury-laden overrated freak. I especially don’t want him now.
"The knowledge of the game is inversely proportional to the price of the seat." ---Bill Veeck. •Now you can follow SFDugout.com on Twitter and Facebook!•
by BruteSentiment on Sep 27, 2009 12:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When someone else did a fanshot about this 4 days ago...
My initial reaction back then was pretty much “OH HELL NO!!!” but I have since changed my mind. Here are my thoughts that I put in the Aaron Rowand fanpost yesterday…
It sounds better and better the more I think about it. I can’t help wonder what the giants could afford to offer holliday right now. Then I can’t help but daydream what that number would be if you added $15 million to that offer because you subtracted that from the books by swapping rowand and bradley. With those two as corner outfielders, I would think Torres and someone else cheap would make a good enough platoon that the offense would be hugely improved
Ya, really. It went from a horrible idea to being pretty good to me. I don’t want Jason Bay because Holliday is worth the difference in salary in defense alone. So lets say the Giants offer Holliday 5/80 million, but miss out because someone else offers him 5/95. That would drive me nuts that the 15 mil is going to rowand instead. I don’t like milton, but I like milton and $15 mil much better than rowand. The real question is, what teams can Rowand exclude in his “limited no trade clause?” I have no doubt that Bradley would come to SF, but would Rowand go to the Cubbies?
by m34josh on Sep 27, 2009 4:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/Uses $15 mil to re-sign Bengie Molina
/Brian Sabean
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 27, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That made my coffee clean my nostrils!
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Sep 27, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they are tears of joy!
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Sep 27, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My initial reaction back then was pretty much "OH HELL NO!!!" but I have since changed my mind.
Same here. Combined with something like a Brian Wilson+ for BJ Upton swap it makes the outfield look like it has the potential to be pretty decent.
Thing A
by sam23 on Sep 27, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lolz
“Cubs fans would fall in love with him, for sure,” Cubs outfielder Reed Johnson said. “He did well on the other side of town, and I know people … appreciate the way he plays the game.”
by xanthan on Sep 27, 2009 6:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 7:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who plays center field, though?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Sep 27, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley’s got pretty decent career numbers in CF. That said, I’m not sure he’d be healthy enough to play it on an everyday basis. It is a question you have to ask – I could live with Torres as a stopgap for something bigger and better if need be.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's someone who no one seems to be talking about...
What about Marlon Byrd, if he comes cheaply? He’s put up wOBAs of .355, .370, .344 the last few years and WAR of 2.5, 3.5 and 2.3. He looks to be about an average defensive CF.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because of his road splits. His bat is pretty mediocre away from Arlington. He’s probably roughly equivalent to Aaron Rowand, just cheaper
by NeifiChicken on Sep 27, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m not a believer in the “A player who plays in a hitter’s park’s real talent level is his road numbers” argument. His park-adjusted numbers are above-average and the park factor for Arlington doesn’t favor hitters as much as its reputation anyway.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my pet peeves is when people use road numbers to explain how a batter will perform in a neutral environment. It doesn’t work. Small sample size.
by Dan from NM on Sep 27, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TRAVIS ISHIKAWA’S TRUE TALENT LEVEL IS .162/.248/.223
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had a GM that would not sign him to a 3-4 year deal at $18-23 MM I would be A LOT more interested.
Basically Sabean’s two mid season trades – and the complete lack of use of them once they were very over paid for – as forced me to conclude that will NEVER be able adequately trade surplus team controlled help for another teams surplus help and he still is way too in love with past laurels to trust with handing out contracts to veterans.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Sep 27, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWO misspelled animals for names?
I would need some convincing.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 27, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
B.J. Upton
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Sep 27, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’d be a solid option too.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we could guarantee that we wouldn’t trade Rowand without signing someone like Cameron, I could be talked into this.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Sep 27, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
I said fuck no before, but now that I think about it, they would be taking 36 mil off our hands. Given that it’s being wasted on a thoroughly mediocre player, that’s good money saved. And Bradley has the potential to be one of the best hitters in the league. If not, oh well he’s cheaper than Rowand.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
by boonitez on Sep 27, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he’d be off the books a year earlier than Rowand.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there would be less poopin’ and nasty shits. Wait, thats a negative, I would miss the comedy known as Aaron
by m34josh on Sep 27, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IDK, Milton Bradley seems like he’d be good for lulz too.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 27, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 27, 2009 8:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, thanks.
Velez for Milton and money? Sure i could be down for that.
Renteria for Milton & money? Sure i am fine with that as well.
Rowand is way, way over paying for the Game Man. And tha is with out figureing what Sabean would sign as a Center Fielder to replace Rowand and your kidding yourself if you think Sabean would go inot a season witha veteran , gamer center fielder witha ront of a roation like Cain & Tim.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Sep 27, 2009 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d do it. I might cut Milton Bradley immediately, but I’d still do it. I don’t like Rowand if you couldn’t tell. Plus it allows me to indulge in fantasies involving my overinflated opinion of Mike McBryde.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Sep 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
McBryde might deliever. We just don’t know yet.
I would have no problems playing Rowand in CF and hopeing he is not in full suck mode come June & July so as to trade him. That gives us 3 months to see what Copeland ( if he is still here) and MyBryde are doing and if we send money the team should get some decent help back. For all his failing Rowand is better than league average defence in Center and that is worth something.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
by daveinexile on Sep 27, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way
At least the devils we know (Rowand, Renteria, et al) aren’t head cases who wore out their welcome with 7 teams in 10 years. It’s time we stop spending money on these types of players and either 1) spend whatever it takes to get someone like Halliday or 2) give the money to Tim and other proven performers and plow the difference into the farm system. Speaking of which, I’m with the “Sabean’s gotta go” camp, but unless someone significantly better than Boch is available, I think he did a credible job with the players he was given by managment.
by karl m on Sep 27, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s time we stop spending money on these types of players
But we’d be saving money on that type of player.
Thing A
by sam23 on Sep 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless someone significantly better than Boch is available, I think he did a credible job with the players he was given by managment.
-benching Posey/making Whiteside starting catcher when Molina got hurt
-benching Garko
-benching Schierholtz in favor of Winn all season
-benching Lewis
-benching Bowker
-not benching Renteria, even when he was injured
-not benching Winn
-not benching Velez in favor of Bowker, Schierholtz, or Lewis
These things lead me to believe that you are wrong.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
by boonitez on Sep 27, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot how long it took for Rich Aurilia to go away
Thing A
by sam23 on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and how long it took to realize Howry was not the go to guy in the 8th with a lead.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
by bgunn on Sep 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
furthermore
Trading Rowand for Bradley would give us more money to pursue Holliday. I’m not really sure who else the ‘someone like’ part refers to. There is only one hitter on the free agent market like Holliday. Jason Bay is almost as good, but not really in any way similar.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
by boonitez on Sep 27, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I hate Rowand, Bradley is worse. You don’t want that type of attitude in our clubhouse.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Sep 27, 2009 7:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what everyone said about Penny. It’s also the 1st thing I thought of when I heard the rumor.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
by bgunn on Sep 28, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a heartbeat.
“Cubs fans would fall in love with him, for sure,” Cubs outfielder Reed Johnson said of Rowand. “He did well on the other side of town, and I know people … appreciate the way he plays the game.”
LOL!
Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 27, 2009 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what they said about San Francisco fans.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Sep 27, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Even from just a purely financial POV
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Sep 27, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do it
then release him, save 15 Mil
we dont need him
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
Registered Velezbian and supporter of Fredemption
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 27, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think his offense would fit very well in the lineup
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Sep 27, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
but only because MB is very likely to violate some portion of his contract that will allow the Giants to release him without liability, thereby ridding themselves of the mini-albatross of the Scott Rowand contract
OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 28, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, he will be on his best behavior and hit .210.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
by SFGuy on Sep 28, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no brainer
for the amount of money we pay rowand, if you have the chance to move him for even close to value, you have to do it. and bradley probably will be a little bit easier to deal with when he isn’t in chicago and dealing with sweet lou all the time.
by gntfan10 on Sep 28, 2009 8:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
