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My friend at a 49er forum just posted this in our SF Giants thread....thought it was scarily accurate. This was written I guess by some Padres fan back in 2006.

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?sr=y&msg=22333.1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-padres

Bochyball is very similiar to Martyball, very unexciting
coaching and does not fully utilize the young talent on
their teams. Takes a talented team and wastes it.
Bochyball came into existence because a career bench player became a head coach and always hated warming the bench.
For those unfamiliar with Bochyball here are its basic rules.

1. Never use young talented players with dynamic defensive
skills when you can start older vets with decreased
mobility and range.

2. Never use young talented hitters with power or higher
batting average when you can start some pathetic hitting
veteran because of experience.

3. Never rest an older veteran even in a slump unless he
gives persmission. Regularly rest your young future stars
so older bench player can get regular starts.

4. If older vet gets in a slump, let him play through it even
if it gets really bad. If a younger starter has slightest dip in performance, sit him on bench or send him back to triple A.
If you really screw him up, you can then trade him for
another tired scrub veteran castoff.

5. When selecting playoff rosters, experience is more
important than talent or proven performance.

6. Make sure young talent in playoffs still gets no experience
so you can continue to play experienced vets who have
inferior skills.

Bochyball really is best for teams with aging teams with
no farm system or money to spend where it creates the
least damage. See San Francisco. Of course,
Bochyball, like Martyball, is at cross purposes with managers
trading for new young talent and growth your own
talent from the draft.   

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I would almost like to see #5 and 6 happen. At least we’d be in the playoffs.

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And celebrating the achievements of others' adoptees, Joey Martinez and Nate Schierholtz

by raisingcain on Sep 24, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If older vet gets in a slump, let him play through it even if it gets really bad. If a younger starter has slightest dip in performance, sit him on bench or send him back to triple A.

Oh look, Bochy’s been doing that for a while. Awesome.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Sep 24, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know, right?

ugh

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Sep 25, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you looked at the Padres then

you could see this team now.

The Giants are dramatically improved where Bochy is good at improving teams: the entire pitching staff.

Bochy’s history hasn’t shown that he can help the Giants probably improve that much more beyond the first round (maybe two) of the playoffs. The Padres bats were extremely quiet in the playoffs.

by coicoy on Sep 25, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2. Never use young talented hitters with power or higher
batting average when you can start some pathetic hitting
veteran because of experience.

LOL BATTING AVERAGE

by El Person on Sep 25, 2009 12:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

scary...

to see how true this still is..

by dez4o8 on Sep 25, 2009 3:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The poster is right, that Bochy was good choice for this team when he was hired, because it WAS a veteran team with a poor farm system. However, this has changed dramatically. The farm system is stacked, the veterans are over the hill, and we need a dynamic manager who’s not going to be afraid to hurt player’s feelings as he does what’s best for the team. You could argue about Molina, but anyone who thinks that Eli Whiteside is a better option than Buster Posey is clearly a man without a clue. Watching John Bowker provide desperately needed pop last night makes you wonder what took so long as he repeatedly played his washed up outfielder who hasn’t hit a homerun since April. Bruce Bochy was a decent manager for the Barry Bonds’ Giants’, but the Lincecum-Cain-Sandoval-Posey-Bowker etc. Giants’ need a smart manager who’s not going to send them to the end of the bench when they go 0 for 4.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Sep 25, 2009 6:33 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Bruce Bochy was a decent manager for the Barry Bonds’ Giants’, but the Lincecum-Cain-Sandoval-Posey-Bowker etc. Giants’ need a smart manager who’s not going to send them to the end of the bench when they go 0 for 4.

Right on the money. This is why it is time for him to go. When the Giant’s hired him, I was dissapointed, but could understand because BLB was still in the line up.

Give Wotus a shot, hire Acta, get somebody that understands and utilizes sabermetric statistics as something other than a paperweight.

My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!

by nvsfg on Sep 25, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got my vote!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Sep 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RXMEISTER FOR BOCHY

wait, that would mean bochy would start posting here…

by sfoakbay on Sep 25, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bochy Ball

Someone PLEASE find a way to get this in Neukom’s hands.

Try his Chinese laundry or parking valet or his dog walker or bow tie maker. Somehow.

Radical Racing

by Radical Racing on Sep 25, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chinese laundry?

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Sep 25, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

radical racism?

i kid.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Sep 26, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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