Post-Game Recap: Three Games Ba...Wait, What?
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2009 10:04 PM PDT
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PrintIf you can say that Buster Posey will cost the Giants games because he's a catching neophyte, if you can say that Posey's inability to frame pitches is unacceptable for a team still clinging to hope in a playoff race, then I can say this:
Eli Whiteside had a chance to throw out Derrek Lee in the ninth inning, and he couldn't. He had a chance to go back to a slider just outside of the zone against Jeff Baker, and he didn't. He is batting under .200, and in order to make up for that, he needs to have magic defensive skills and magic game-calling ability. Whiteside does not. No one does, and that's the point. This post game recap looked a little different five minutes ago. There was actual praise for Bochy. Here, take a look:
In the interest of fairness, let us praise Bruce Bochy for a second. No more, no less.Thank you, Bruce, for starting John Bowker tonight. Thank you for giving him a second straight start, especially after he didn't do much of note in Monday's game. Sure, he worked an 0-2 count into a walk, braving possible clubhouse fines in the process, but that's not that sexy. If Andres Torres can't get a start after a two-homer game, what chance did Bowker stand?
Oh, ye of little faith. Sure, the reason Bowker started was probably a stupid one -- EIGHT AT-BAT DOMINATION OVER RYAN DEMPSTER, ENGAGE -- but it's not worth it to get the dental picks out for this particular horse. I've written that Bowker represents one of the only chances the Giants have to improve substantially nex
And then kaboom. If I threw 99 MPH, and Jeff Baker had just spit on two sliders, I'd try and sneak a fastball by the letters too. I'm not blaming Wilson for anything other than the leadoff walk. And, no, it's not fair to blame Whiteside other than to make a point that defensive specialist catchers are never perfect enough to justify putting them in the lineup over their offensively minded counterparts.
Also of note: That ninth-inning at-bat by Aaron Rowand was the worst at-bat I've seen all year, and I've watched the 2009 Giants, so I've seen plenty of contenders. No hyperbole, that was the worst at-bat of the year. Nate Schierholtz swung at three balls that hit him this season, and those three at-bats can't even touch the masterpiece from Rowand.
| I believe that the Giants are in this thing | I'm very, very skeptical that the Giants are in this thing. | |
| Giants prove they are in this thing | I'm excited! | I'm excited! |
| Giants prove they are not in this thing | I'm devastated. | Meh. |
I've been angrier. Thanks, silly little table, for telling me how to calm down.
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I turned it off when the took the lead
I didn’t want to see it either way. I think I’m just done – I can’t even get angry now.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
The Giants that is
Really; I turned off a 2-1 game.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Yea me too
How dare I try to spend quality time with my fiance. I actually joked with her that if the giants lost i would hold her responsible and would dump her…. oops =p
Who needs smoking? Being a Giant's fan will take 10-15 Years off of my life easy!
by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I turned it off when Rowand came up in the 9th...
I first turned off the game to go watch Survivor and the Office. The I turned it back on just as Wilson was delivering his 2-strike pitch to Baker. I had to run down to Lowe’s so I started listening to the bottom of the ninth in the car.
By the time I got to Lowe’s, Ishikawa had just worked the walk on the heels of Winn’s infield single, and Rowand was coming up. I just thought, “That walk right there is as good as this inning is going to get”. So I turned the car off and went in to Lowe’s. Came back just in time to hear Jon Miller give the final totals after FLew struck out.
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
Wilson averse
I had to leave the TV and go make something sweet in the kitchen when Wilson came on. I just had a feeling I didn’t want to be sitting there watching it.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 24, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Still 4 games back from Wildcard
I hate Jeff Baker…
by fernando valenzuela on Sep 25, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s an interesting username for a Giants fan.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I know.. I'll change it..
I was a fan of Valenzuala to be honest,.. but that’s the only good thing I will ever say about LA
by fernando valenzuela on Sep 25, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
3 more years of that guy
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
His numbers are decent, but secretly I think he sucks.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
Keep that secret safe
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2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t like how that ended.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Thank you Bochy for finally giving Bowker a tryout with 10 games left in the season. There.. Happy?
Giant season effort summary:
Was just enough ensure the Dodgers won the division.
Was just little enough to ensure the Giants lost the wild card.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 24, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I don’t like these.
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This one’s funnier if you picture a 56-year-old Japanese businessman fapping to it. Try it out!
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually that made it much worse.
lol
Giant season effort summary:
Was just enough ensure the Dodgers won the division.
Was just little enough to ensure the Giants lost the wild card.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m a 56 year old Japanese businessman and I am fapping to it right now. I would prefer that you DONT laugh at me about this please.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
lol?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope…that makes it worse.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why she's spitting it out , duhhh...
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Y’know, for the longest time I thought “fap fap fap” was supposed to represent someone’s heart beating faster.
Sometimes I kinda wish I still thought that.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Heart rate does go up.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me rephrase
I thought it represented only the heart beating faster…with excitement at the thought of the fave prospect or trade target in a Giants uni, say. Without other physical stimuli.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And his credit card numbers.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
GIVE IT BACK, DAMMIT!!!
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by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Why is she naked? Exactly what kind of sauce is that.. ?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
That rowand at bat was disgusting. that ball had to be a foot and a half off the plte and he missed iot by a good 10 inches. But hes a veteran! BORK!
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when I saw Fred L with the bat
I assumed he would be pinchhitting, since he is LH and Marmolade is RH. I also thought that would give two chances to use PH if necessary. I know Fred struck out too, but I’d like to think that if he did that with 2 outs there would still have been a chance with the next batter. Rowand was totally embarrassed.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This hurts, but
how upset would we be if both the Giants and Rockies won? Same difference
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
No, because at least the Giants would have won.
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Yeah, I’d much rather be pissed at the Rockies for winning than the Giants for DAMN IT HOW DID YOU GUYS SCREW THAT ONE UP?
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by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
not to mention with a loss
Were now behind Atlanta too….
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be honest, i think i would rather see Atlanta go than Colorado
Timmy is my Man-crush
by Fan from Sac on Sep 25, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
To reitterate my point:
That pitch was six-hundred feet out of the strikezone. This is the pitch he has struck out on for the entire season. Everyone in the world knew that pitch was coming. I called it, sitting here. I even sighed as I did so. It was certain that this would be the pitch they’d throw Rowand. It’s a farce. It’s a fucking farce. I wouldn’t hire Aaron Rowand to shine my shoes. He’d probably shine my kneecap on accident.
I wonder , watching that asshole watching the Jumbo at the game at Chase and now this...
…if he isn’t just mailing it in.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I turned on the radio in the 9th. Jon Miller was talking about a 22 pitch outing last night, then he walked Lee to lead off the inning. I thought, hmm, maybe that isn’t the end of the world, because Lee has been great this season. Then I thought, FUCK WILSON MIGHT GIVE UP A 2 RUN HOMER BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE FITTING.
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
So glad I gave up on the season after the Dodgers series back in August when the Giants showed they didn’t belong on the same field. Saved me from having any dashed expectations lately.
Giant season effort summary:
Was just enough ensure the Dodgers won the division.
Was just little enough to ensure the Giants lost the wild card.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 24, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions
Ya, anyone still emotionally invested while admirable deserves what they get…
I was watching “The Office” and stuff…glanced over into the other room, looked up and saw the homer…and I really didn’t care… It was strange, but at that moment I knew I really didn’t give an S anymore.
Half awake, half baked
by Giant Homer on Sep 25, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it so surprising that a fan of a team is still a fan of the team?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I’m a bitter, sandbagging, reverse-jinx artist. I am a broken, broken baseball fan…
So, no it’s not surprising. But come on, after the Spilborgs grando and Kemp double, we knew who we were.
Half awake, half baked
by Giant Homer on Sep 25, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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NO Chance.
1) whiteside
2) Bengie with a cyborg hand
3) Panda
4) Garko
5) Aurilia
6) Posey
6th? try 28th
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Fixed
1) whiteside
2) Bengie with a cyborg hand
3) Panda
4) Garko
5) Aurilia
6) Bruce Bochy in Posey Uni
7) Posey
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
by SeeingStars on Sep 24, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The “Buster Posey could possibly play more but most likely not” Magic Number is down to 6
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 24, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That just hurts.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Only think I will ever like about Scott..
Is how he saved Sanchez’s no no. Only thing I will ever hate about uribe is how he blew the perfect one.
But by blowing the perfect game, Uribe made way for the no-hitter.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
oh well, hopefully lincecum wins the cy young and buster posey is made the full time starter for the rest of the season and that’ll ease the pain….maybe
Do you WANT every one to hate you?
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by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No chance Lince is getting the Cy young this year =(
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
well in that case...FUCK THIS TEAM AND FUCK THIS GAME
by speedyt72000 on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I can haz Sharks hockey now?
What the fuck am I kidding they will break my heart too
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and by then the Giants will be back to convincing you that they might possibly be kinda in this thing-like thing.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not only did Rowand's offense stink, but AGAIN with the over-the-head-hits!!!! Jesus christ, you idiot asswipe. PLAY BACK.
It only matters because it led to a run in a 1-run game. That’s all.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
IM really starting to hate him
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
But then, we knew that.
It’s not so much “play back” as “know where the ball is going”—that was a classic “run to the spot and catch it” for a good CF. Rowand is not really a terrible fielder, but this concept of him as a Gold Glove is, well, to be polite, say “risible.”
If the Rowand acquisition had been explained honestly—“He’s a decent fielder who is a decent bat”—and priced (and termed) accordingly, I daresay no one would be having problems with it now. It was the silly “Here’s our savior” bilge that has made Rowand a pariah.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
For me, that's not an issue
I never bought that he was the savior, nor do I really recall his being marketed as superstar (as opposed to quite good, which he certainly was marketed to be). But a competent CF — which I do expect of him and I think it is reasonable to expect that — would not have anywhere near the number of flyballs go over his head as he has in the past several weeks alone. Actually, that number should be close to zero. And I’m not talking about a weak-hitting pitcher who gets lucky once; I’m talking about opponent outfielders and others who are supposed to have power.
I don’t expect miracles from Rowand. I expect a competent and intelligent approach to playing CF.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 25, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Hard to believe.
Curiously, UZR/150 shows him as just about a dead-average CF for 2009. I wonder if it’s the same thing as with Lewis: when he screws up, it seems to always be in a truly memorable way. He certainly doesn’t look even average.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Whatever
I had resigned myself to this season being over several days go (finally convinced myself). I’m just done with baseball for the season, after watching this team fail in ways that I had never imagined possible.
Just drop out of it and play Posey. That’s all I want to see
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I feel the same way but...
Bork has had several excellent opportunities to play Posey and he has failed to do so. If Bork is willing to put one of the worst hitters in the MLB in the 4 hole behind Panda, The odds are against that seeing Posey start more than 2 games this year.
I only hope the Brass has had enough of this dumbshit manager.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
Giants caught lurking outside this thing’s house again
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions
Repeatedly buzzing this thing’s house in their Cessna.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, I’m starting to think you’re a troll
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by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed he's a double agent!
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
someone should punch Rowand
in the face.
by Hoist That Rag on Sep 24, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions
He'd be able to rub his ill gotten millions on it
And it would feel better
It’s a pretty weak 2-0.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
get back to me after the Minnesota game Sunday. If you’re 3-0, I might be convinced.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
I really think the Niners are the best team in the NFC west
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2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Stiff competition.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG BRETT WILL BE THROWING BOMBZZZ!!!
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
I beg to differ. They may be the worst 2-0 team, but the fact that they’ve won the first two of six divisional games bodes quite well for a playoff spot as representative of the NFC West.
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
Yay! Sports where half the teams make the playoffs!
by Every6thDay on Sep 24, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Schierholtz die?
or is he just now the No. 8 outfielder. I don’t get it. What did Nate do to deserve this fate. AT one time he at LEAST was the No. 1 pinch hitter. Hell he doesn’t even have that role anymore. Somehow it went to Lewis. A guy who has been one of the worst clutch hitters in memory.
As for Rowand – I don’t think any player in history has swung at so many sliders that missed by two feet.
Umm, he really really sucks at hitting. He’s a one tool player.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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One tool: arm. Can’t hit, average fielder, etc. I guess he can run but he doesn’t hit so it doesn’t matter.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
Rowand’s noodle arm is his one tool? Or is like that South Park episode where Bono doesn’t have the record for biggest crap; he is the biggest crap?! Aaron Rowand is one tool. See his beard for proof.
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
FOOD POISENING
HE WAS PROBABLY PUKING LIKE THE ASIAN GIRL ON THE TOP OF THE THREAD
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
lol lewis is way more trustworthy than scheirholtz
altough i do like his arm
Schierholtz wasn't available tonight
Illness I think…
butt pee
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Sep 24, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t really hate much in this world. However, I hate the following things, in this approximate order:
1) Edgar Renteria on the roster.
2) Aaron Rowand on the roster.
3) Bengie Molina being the first-string catcher.
4) Bengie Molina being the clean-up hitter.
5) Randy Winn on the roster.
6) Eli Whiteside ahead of Buster Posey on the depth chart.
7) Freddy Sanchez’s moles.
If none of these were true, the Giants would have probably won the wild card this year.
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
Needs moar BORK
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
lol at number 7
8) b willy great closer but king of blown saves
9)Timmy get a damn hair cut no one can be that cool to have that bad of hair
8) No
9) No
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I'm gonna have to agree with Natto.
These are both wrong. Pretty spectacularly so, in fact.
closer is not the problem. Look at the year Lidge is having and the Phillies are cruising into the playoffs. Wilson had one bad game.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Lol not one game I remember on multiple accounts
Wilson he is a young guy in baseball terms. Lidge can crap the bed, but he has his offense to pick him up, as for b willy make one bad pitch and that could cost your team a win that they need desperately.
What if 1-6 weren’t true, but Sanchez still had moles? Would we still win the wild card??
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by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. His moles are a metaphor for Bochy shitting on our face, night in, night out, with his borken lineups.
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
FUCKING MOLES DONT KNOW HOW TO WIN!!!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Really, now.
That is not fair to Edgar Renteria, who is not a Hall of Fame player but is a pretty decent one—when he’s healthy. He has been playing through injuries that affect, affect seriously, both his fielding and his batting. He has not compalined, and has been The Good Soldier, but a fully healthy Renteria, which we might see next year, is a completely different animal to what has been seen this season.
Aaron Rowand is mediocre, but not awful. The only better CF right now is Torres, whom they waste in the corners because . . . well, because of some “reasoning” that I, at least, cannot fathom.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Would you care to explain
Renteria’s woeful numbers last season? Is that what we have to look forward to when he’s healthy – or will our 34 year old starting shortstop regress even further?
What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?
Edgar’s not just injured, he’s getting up there in years. You really can’t expect that much from him next year, even if he’s healthy again. He will continue to decline, and continue to get banged up from the rigors of a 162 game schedule.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
You and hokysmokes should start a club
Renteria was pretty healthy last year and he still sucked. He’s had a nice career. Said “nice career” is getting to the point where it needs to be over now. Not to the point where he’s making almost $10 million next year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
oof. Not joining a club that has hokysmokesbw and Edgar Rentaria in it. Might see some things that can’t be unseen.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Assuming we are obliged to go with what we have:
As recently as 2007 Renteria had a fine season. He has a career BABIP of .318, but in 2008 it was .270 and this year it’s been .250; make of that what you will. Renteria’s career stats are interesting, in that he seems never to have had an “average” season—none of his seasons, that is, looks much like the cumulative career line. I don’t disagree that even healthy in 2010 he will not be quite the man he once was, but I do think that there’s no a priori reason to expect a really poor season. My inclination would be to go with a middle infield of Brock Bond, Edgar Renteria, and Juan Uribe, with each getting about 2/3 play time. Adding a young shortstop with superior abilities would be nice, but that is by no means the hole most of the water is leaking from on this club, so there are much higher priorities.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
I had to remove a paragraph after Winn got a hit, but yeah.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
like i said in the gamethreads…PITCHING AND DEFENSE > OFFENSE
by speedyt72000 on Sep 24, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Frank Chu is looking for a roommate
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Sep 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions
Dude is practicaly my next door neighbor
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by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
nicely done
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh my god.
WOW. In another life, maybe.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
wtf is Frank Chu?
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by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Sep 24, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
dude
best link ever… includes Frank’s CELL PHONE NUMBER.
Hint: last 4 digits are 5150
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Go to bed.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
Did you WATCH that AB?
Probably his most important AB of the season.
And he does THAT.
That was fucking indefensible.
I know, and the dude is an overpaid scrub
Truth hurts, ya know?
It wasn’t even the best run into the wall of all time.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yo Aaron, I know you’re running into the wall and imma let you finish, but Ray Chapman had the best baseball injury of all time.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
YO DAWG, I HEARD YOU LIKE WALLS ON YOUR HEAD SO I WENT AHEAD AND PUT A HEAD ON YOUR WALL SO YOU CAN HEAD-BUTT A WALL WHILE YOU’RE WALL-HEADING YOU FUCKING BLIND PEACE OF JESUS FREAK
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
by bondo on Sep 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
YO DAWG, I REALLY WAS CHANNELING XZIBIT THERE BECAUSE I MEANT
*piece
now skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
kind of funny episode
not as funny as last one
I’m not really in the mood for Kruktimism right now, but he’s right that Wilson’s 0-2 slider was a perfect pitch.
He's now hit 2 walls
once on defense and ever since he signed with SF, on offense. Real talk
Thank you, Rotoworld
With Nick Schierholtz under the weather and Randy Winn a historically poor hitter against the Cubs’ Ryan Dempster, Bowker drew the nod in left field for a second straight day. He may have earned himself even more playing time, rattling off an RBI double in the fourth and a solo bomb in the seventh. He’s batting .208 with two dingers and seven RBI in 49 at-bats with the Giants.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Hope Nick gets better soon
Giant season effort summary:
Was just enough ensure the Dodgers won the division.
Was just little enough to ensure the Giants lost the wild card.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that Nate’s brother?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Nickrolled!
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
i hope nick’s arm is as good as nate’s
by speedyt72000 on Sep 24, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Who?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This guy Nick Schierholtz ...
played A ball with Pablo Sanchez, right?
by AGiantAmongMarlins on Sep 25, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I honestly can say that this gives me more peace of mind than anything else
I’m traveling for business next week to Taiwan, and now I don’t have to worry about the Giants and the potential playoff run.
Play Buster, please. That’s all I ask for the rest of the season. Just play Bowker, and play Buster.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
If you can't watch the giants
you can always have a taiwanese hooker bite your nutz off
Avoid which?
Watching the Giants, or the other one? Either would be understandable.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Question:
In a year FULL of horrid At Bats, was Rowand’s the worst of the year?
www.leaguelineup.com/lbucks24
nicely done
although your sig is largely responsible
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Without a doubt yes
Who needs smoking? Being a Giant's fan will take 10-15 Years off of my life easy!
by prnkmonkie77 on Sep 24, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose he could have lost hold of the bat, allowing it to fly into the stands and impale a child.
He impaled young children's hearts and dreams
Which makes him a far worse demon of a person.
Especially in this economy.
not even the triple play? well, who cares, all his at bats are terrible and he should not be our starting CF anymore.
by speedyt72000 on Sep 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember a few late in games from Renteria and Rowand this year, but not quite that bad.
Giant season effort summary:
Was just enough ensure the Dodgers won the division.
Was just little enough to ensure the Giants lost the wild card.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 24, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I only saw the highlights
but when goofball Marmol is wild, batters can just sit on his slider down the middle and stand there and wait for their walks.
BORK
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Sep 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
BORKWINNBORKBORK
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
Yod did notice, yes?
Both balls he hit hard were cripples that you’d hope and expect a Little Leaguer would crush.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Runs don’t count if they come on bad pitches!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
If Andres Torres hit a home run off a bad pitch then it would count fwiw.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Well obviously
His minor league numbers have gotten better! Not as good as Bowker’s, but better than the shitty numbers they were!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
If only there were more Little Leaguers hitting for the Giants!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrow, Carpenter will beat the Rockies, and Timmy will move us within three games. We’re still not getting the wild card, but at least we’ll feel better for the moment.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Lol plz dont jinx us we said the same thing about timmy against the fodgers
Yeah, but we probably are going to win the cubs. As for rockies loss I can only hope.
Ironic
Aaron Heilman gets the win. We claimed him off of waivers last month and couldn’t swing a deal.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
But he didn't do anything
He pitched a scoreless inning against the Giants. That’s like the easiest thing for a pitcher to do in the major leagues.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
We might of. You don’t know.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely mite of one teh gmae.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 25, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh boy..You know it’s a bad game when Randy Winn is one of the players of the game for an infield base hit
That’s just Kruk loving his classy veterans
by ho-hum baby on Sep 24, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy is probably saying: “Rowy’s a professional hitter and all of the the players in the league, he’s certainly one of them. We had Aary in there because that’s where we put him. He saw some pitches and took his AB like a pro. People might criticize him, but they forget how hard it is to get a hit when you’re in the middle of striking out.”
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
That was actually pretty good. I heard it in the low Bochy grumble in my head. Well played.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Sep 24, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
All is forgiven if we sign Wagner Mateoooo on the cheap.
RIP | anVil | 9-19-2009 | dude had potential.
by i wish we were good on Sep 24, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions
I don’t think the Giants’ are too high on signing Dominican teenagers these days.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
It’s not the Dominican thing. It’s giving young guys a truck load of money.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
I think he’s referencing the Angel Villalona story.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I know. I think with his story age is more of an issue than nationality.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
I don’t agree. It’s a different lifestyle over there. He probably grew up poor using a milk carton for a glove. Not to mention that they all carry guns over there. It’s not just a kid given a lot of money. It’s a kid living in a country where it’s very easy to get in trouble given a lot of money.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Go Fuck Yourself
Half awake, half baked
by Giant Homer on Sep 25, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
now the story of a wealthy family
who lost everything
and the one son
who had no choice, but to keep them all together
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
What I miss?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Sep 24, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions
Bloody barf.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
ITS TIME FOR POSEY TO GET SOME PLAYING TIME
starting tomorrow night.
by HOLDEMUPwuzzBANNED on Sep 24, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
/flagged
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
replied!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
outsourced!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
defenestrated!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Greater odds of starting a game at Catcher for the San Francisco Giants in 2009
1) Buster Posey
2) Steve Holm
3) Benito Santiago
4) Thurman Munson
what happened to the Bochy press conference? Did he cancel it and sneak out the back? Please, somebody ask him about Whiteside’s throw in the ninth!
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
“Well, I know that a lot of you would have liked to see Poseyy get a chance to make that throw, but Whitesidey is a vet and he’s been making some big throws for us so I really think he deserved a chance to be out there in that situation.”
"Well, I know that a lot of you would have liked to see Poseyy get a chance to make that throw, but I’ve been hiding something from you. Whitesidey is a vet is my illegitimate child and he’s been making some big throws for us so I really think he deserved a chance to be out there in that situation."
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 25, 2009 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey we might as well go to the confrence sometime and make bork hear us out...
and finally make our team the best it can be.
vocabulary fail...
Whaddaya call it when you need to eliminate teams cuz nobody goes to their games?
Contraction.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
Anti-expobitionism
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
(alternate joke: Lousy EXPOSure)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Good night, Not a Nerd.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Why The Eff
did Eli call for a fastball in when Baker was effing clueless on Wilson’s slider??
keep throwing the slider until he chases or you paint the corner… fuck… of course he turned on it, he was waiting for it the whole time.
I blame Eli…. Thus, I blame Bochy.
he called for a fastball
because that’s what Wilson throws (for strikes anyway).
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
hokysmksbw
so you are a super bitch?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Curious...
have Kruk or Kuip been talking/questioning why Posey isn’t playing? I’ve been listening on the radio and Miller never even mentions it…
by Hoist That Rag on Sep 24, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions
Okay, furreals.
We don’t need this graphic puke stuff.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
BREAKING: HOWTHEYSCORED ADMITS TO BEING A FURRY
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell yeah!
Wait… fury is spelled with two R’s, right?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If only there were a moderator around who could mask/delete such things...
(rolls eyes a little at HowTheyScored)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair to me, I deleted the dog image before I made this comment. It’s just a matter of reloading the page for the rest of you.
It’s not my fault that you didn’t know I deleted the image without me telling you.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You deleted the dog sex/vomit pic? Damn. If I could make that the site’s tagline, I would.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I mean... Natto deleted it. Or jponry.
I don’t think it was WalrusMan. And it probably wasn’t me.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t delete that one.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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That’s a rather suspicious denial.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
In my client’s defense, he didn’t delete that one.
by withclubsauce on Sep 24, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
CIRCUMSTANTIAL, I SAY!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
3 games back!
Hey, I just got back from the game! What a win! Bowkermania!!! Oh, I left during the top of the 9th so I could beat traffic. I’m sure Wilson nailed it down. He’s been pretty automatic. Back in this thing!!
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions
Also, the woot off has been disappointing so far. Too much useless crap.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
DON’T DO IT! It"S A TRAP!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
either that
or trade Cain for Adam Dunn :(
by Hoist That Rag on Sep 24, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
i sure hope not. he’s just another aaron rowand type player. but hey this is brian sabean we’re talking about so you never know
by speedyt72000 on Sep 24, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Um, Dye is worse than Rowand. Hard to believe, perhaps, but true. He’s a better hitter, but he’s a (very) bad fielder for his position, which is much easier than Rowand’s, and Rowand is good at his.
I really would prefer not to be defending Rowand tonight of all nights.
I have an idea
all those White Sox players that won a championship three years ago and are clearly on the downside of their careers…let’s sign them. Because they know how to win. Get Konerko, Crede, and Podsednik in here too.
by Hoist That Rag on Sep 24, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand Sucks ergo we sign him for too many years and give him too much money
Jermaine Dye sucks ergo we will sign him for too many years and give him too much money
by DFAAurillia on Sep 24, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
POSEY 4 FOR AJ PIERZSTINKSYI!!!
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
If it’s mortal, that means we can kill it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Cow!
This game wasn’t lost in the ninth inning, it was lost while the Giants were being hypnotized by Dempster. Bottom line, they weren’t able to get to him, same way this anemic offense hasn’t been able to get to many pitchers this year. Can’t blame it on Bochy or Weez, but if you want to blame someone, hate to harp on it, but blame it on Sabean. The team has no offense people, and it’s hard to win big games when you’re always on the beg for runs. Make no mistake about it though, this was the kind of loss that can be DEVASTATING to a young team in uncharted waters. It’s arguably the most devastating loss of the season. Kuip says Lincecum tomorrow is the way to forget this one, and it was surreal to watch Krukow smiling as they tried to explain away this one. But as nice of a suprising run as it’s been, that sound you hear is the fat lady singing.
Think about it.
Has anyone asked about the likelihood that any of the Giants’ star pitchers will, when they become free agents, be willing to re-up? Would you, if you’re a young stud pitcher, want to re-up with a team that seems to feel that all you need to do to win is have your staff throw a shutout?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Penny had the staff's first quality start since 9/15.
The starters totally choked for over a week — ALL OF THEM!
September has been a teamwide meh.
VETRANS MONEY DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
The most devastating loss of the year was when we blew that 3 run lead to the rockies in extra innings last month…Thats when I knew we were out of it…Last nights loss, although painful to watch, doesn’t come close to the extra inning loss because we were out of it already…
"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading
by Mordy From Monsey on Sep 25, 2009 4:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Having been at this game...
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
i fear for the lives of whoever sat next to you.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Well, the Manics were fucking awesome.
Anyone want to relive Rowand’s AB for me?
Also, hey, I am glad to see Bowker with a good game, I think.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Imagine three consecutive trainwrecks
Also, THE FREDEMPTION IS A LIE
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
RIP Fred
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
STOP STOP IT NOW!!!!
It’s not a lie. If only he had ph for stupid freaking SCOTT, it would’ve been better than ever for the problem.
Remember when the new Star Wars films revealed that The Force was actually a bunch of genetic determiners that vaguely cinch the Jedi to eugenics? It was a lot like that.
WELL HOW DID YOU THINK THE FORCE COULD BE STRONG IN ONE PERSON AND WEAK IN ANOTHER? MAGIC? FUCK THAT!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not as upset about this game as I should be. Perhaps I’ve already subconsciously written this team off.
Subconsciously?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I haven't been around for the games in a while
But I feel like that’s been a good thing.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
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YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Looks like another winner for me.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Quality baby. not quantity!!!
"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading
by Mordy From Monsey on Sep 25, 2009 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a little sad that you guys think 0 posts from me in the Gameday Thread is quality…
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE MISSING!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually...
…we have a pretty good idea based on your 27,000 previous posts. No SSS issues there!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Really, you need at least a Natto-sized sample to be able to say anything for sure.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Howtheyscored had his chance.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yay!! thanks heimy25
Only thing that would make me happy tonight would be being on the top 10 list.
LOL Baggs comment
One of those things will happen tomorrow.
All you Posey lovers brought this loss on the Giants. Your collective prayers that he would play were finally loud enough (and annoying enough) that the Baseball God (just one) caused BW to groove one and effectively end the season.
Forget Rowand, Bochy, Reneria, Sabean, Garko, Sanchez, Sanchez, Winn, Miller, Medders, Valez, Frandsen, Molina, Whiteside, Ishikawa, and anyone else that you have blamed in the past… It was YOU that blew it.
I don’t know how you will look yourselves in the mirror tomorrow. Your only saving grace is that you will get to see a 24 year old kid with dreamy blue eyes catch tomorrow. Maybe he will have another couple of duck snorts and raise his average to .400. At which time you will immediately begin hitting refresh on your browser in hopes that the sfgiants.com page will reload with the 2010 All-Star ballot.
Then in response to somebody…
I don’t need a bio to see that he looks moves around like a meth head behind the plate and, contrary to the belief on this blog, is not Will Clark II. (See ugliest check swing ever vs. HR off NR).
I don’t need a bio to see that he looks moves around like a meth head behind the plate and, contrary to the belief on this blog, is not Will Clark II. (See ugliest check swing ever vs. HR off NR).
"I FEEL A LOT OF HAPPY!" - Juan Uribe
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Is that second thing supposed to be about Posey?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Wooooooow.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
you would think Bruce Bochy would have better things to do than post on Baggarly’s blog.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
I'm beginning to start thinking bochy to be...
a MOTHAFREAKING TROLL FOR THE MOTAFREAKING FODGERS!!!!!!!
Great
So Molina’s hand injury must not have been that bad for him to type all this
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
You have to admit
He is pretty dreamy.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Even that guy had to admit it
And he hates Posey.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I feel like it’d take a really twisted person to violently hate a prospect who’s done nothing but be completely awesome so far in his career after 3 ABs and like 5 defensive innings.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Uh, he's made TWO WHOLE OUTS
Only ONCE has he gone up there with a chance to make an out and NOT DONE IT.
HE IS CLEARLY TRYING TO BRING THIS ORGANIZATION DOWN FROM THE INSIDE.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Careful Posey-haters. Soon you will have to pretend you loved him from the start.
I’m looking at you, Dan Dibley
Half awake, half baked
by Giant Homer on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean, what kind of bullshit is this
@willDavidian defense Will. Posey clearly not ready to catch MLB pitching every day. Don’t hide behind the clever venom of @timkawakami
From Dan Dibley. Fucking moron.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
You have to follow either jctGamer or Dan Dibley.
They’re both in my following section:
http://twitter.com/oldjacket
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
which one is jctgamer?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
LOL FRED
by ringleader3 on Sep 25, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
BLEH…. i went uptown tonight after thinking the giants won during the top 9th one out… all the sudden one of my brothers comes up to me saying the giants lost, and i basically told him your full of shit, and sure enuff, he’s telling the truth, WOW
WoW
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm a little sadowski
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
:(owski
:(ler
:(ison bummedgarner
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
:(ggf
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions
/could be interpreted as reply fail
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions
That guy has some serious problems with two fingers and a junk waggle.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
i didn’t do it; all I did was sleep the ‘puter, and that’s what it looked like in the morning. and, don’t be talkin’ about my junk waggle!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I was talking about Sadowski.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
/what is a junk waggle?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
search “waggle my junk” on the site and it should come up.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
87-75! And the Braves will finish ahead of them in the WC standings.
What have I learned about the Rockies? They are younger, fitter, and smarter and better led than the Giants.
Now, having said that, watch them choke and those Atlanta Braves geezers miraculously grab the WC.
by hokysmksbw on Aug 24, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Starting Monday the schedule entirely favors…ATLANTA Marlins (80-69) got it ROUGH — PHI (6), ATL, and NYM.
Rockies (84-65) have next toughest opponents in SD, StL, Mil, and LA.
Giants (80-68) have AZ (6), CHI (4), and SD.
Braves (79-69) get NYM, FLA, and DC (7)!!!!!
If the Rox lose and Braves win tomorrow, ATL will actually be in the better position to catch the Purps in the final weekend.
by hokysmksbw on Sep 20, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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[correction] If the Rox lose and Braves win tomorrow, ATL will actually be in the better position to catch the Purps in the final weekend.by hokysmksbw on Sep 20, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weirdsville!
The quote removed the correction.
If the Rox lose and Braves win tomorrow, ATL will actually be in the better position to catch the Purps in the final weekend.
Well guys lets hope for the rox to lose along with the braves.
Giants seriously can’t lose anymore games, if we want any hope at a wildcard.
Hope is dead...
Along with jazz, God, chivalry, Paul (McCartney) and love
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
Paul is dead?
I thought that was a hoax.
www.leaguelineup.com/lbucks24
by NuschlerFace on Sep 25, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
PAUL IS THE ONLY ONE FACING AWAY ON THE BACK OF SGT PEPPERS. THE PROOF IS RIGHT THERE
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Irony
Paul will be the last surviving Beatle…
Just as ironic if Ringo outlasts them all…
Half awake, half baked
I’ve had this thought for a while. I figure Ringo will be the last Beatle standing.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Braves got back into this thing by taking six out of six from the pathetic Mets these past ten days. Talk about no pride. Some teams like to play spoiler, others like to lay down and die. You would think the Mets would do better, because of their long rivalry with the Braves.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Fail-o-meter
93 Rockies > 09 Mets
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
Twitter this morning: calling for Wilson to be traded.
Crazy fans are crazy.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 25, 2009 7:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Calling for Wilson to be traded is not crazy. Calling for Wilson to be traded solely because of last night is crazy.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
WILSON FOR FIELDERS
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, Kruk this morning calling for Whiteside to start over Posey. Says it’s “not fair” to the guys who have been there all year to play Posey, and Whiteside needs to play because of his “experience.” Apparently the fact that Whiteside knows when to go to the mound and talk to the pitcher to calm him down balances his inability to hit.
He’s drinking the kool-aid.
I'm the Juggernate, bitch.
by kdl on Sep 25, 2009 7:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Dear God
I do not give a flat fuck about “not fair.” How about not fair to POSEY ffs if we’re worried about egos? Hmmm?
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Sep 25, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Really
Since when is this about fairness? Bochy keeps saying he’s just trying to win games. Somehow I think that if the Giants won a championship, it would salve an awful lot of bruised feelings.
I have twins…I get quite enough “that’s not fair!” in my life without getting it from baseball too.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
EXACTLY THIS
There’s no crying in baseball.
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
I set my alarm at 7:30 so that’s the first thing I heard getting up this morning.
I wanted to punch him, then drag him in front of fangraphs.com and see Eli whiteside’s horrific lines, then ask him if Posey cannot be trusted at this time, why did we start his clock early and not bring up Steve Holme?
Buster Posey is the 2nd best hitter on this team. You play your 2nd best hitter on the team period point blank end of story.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
it’s not fair to ask our bullpen and starters to continually defend razor thin leads because we can’t score.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
How about treating the guy who’s going to be here for the next 5 years at least fairly?
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 25, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard him calling for Whiteside over Posey, but I didn’t hear him say anything about “not fair” or “experience”. Maybe I was just tuning out, but I don’t remember him actually justifying it. I just remember him saying “I wouldn’t do it. You can’t.”
Which is still wrong, but you know.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I was just tuning out.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Carl Steward, via Bagg’s blog, also seemed to say that Whiteside will still get most of the start until we are literally mathematically out of it
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I expect nothing less from Bruce Borky.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
That’s just fucking stupid.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’ll be back when we’re mathematically eliminated.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 25, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Kruk is establishment all the way
he’s a foot-soldier selling a product, and he’s good at it. Kuip is much more objective.
Krukow is also pretty old-school baseball codey. He comes from the same school of thought that Bochy does in a lot of ways. I think he’s more intelligent about it than Boch, but it still gets in the way quite a bit.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I finally realized...
…why some folks think of Krukow as the world’s biggest homer, and I don’t: I pretty much only listen to him during the games. His in-game commentary seems to me pretty balanced and fair minded (giving credit to opponents for good plays, calling mistake pitches vs good pitches that got hit anyway, etc.).
Having caught a postgame or two recently (and reading some of the comments relayed here) make me think he’s much more of an apologist outside of the game setting.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
He definitely is. And it sounds like he’s been making a lot of ridiculous excuses during post-game shows after losses lately too.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It’s a little hard to listen to him after the team loses, and it’s really tough when the team is losing consistently. Last year was especially painful. He was trying really, really hard and the team just flat sucked.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it fair?
….that I paid over $10,000 of my mother-fucking hard-earned money to watch that shitbag who makes Brian Bocock and Jonathan Sanchez look like Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent play major league baseball last night and then top off his total and complete ineptitude with the bat by air-mailing a throw to second base trying to throw out a guy who had exactly ZERO stolen bases through 150+ games this year and then got fucking injured getting back-slapped?? Is that fucking fair? Fuck Krukow and fuck Bochy and while we’re at it Fuck Aaron Rowand for making my 6 year old daughter cry.
by capn on Sep 25, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well, when you put the money down, you were saying, “I’m paying for what you’re going to give me.” They gave you that. It is fair.
Next year don’t pay.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
if Sponge Bob Square Head is back, I might just not…. This nonsense that the Club owes more to these prima donna morons – who get paid tens of millions of dollars -than it does to its fans – who pay an enormous amount of money ostensibly for a good product – is absurd!
This is a decision best made in say December.
"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW
LET THE FAN RANT!
Half awake, half baked
by Giant Homer on Sep 25, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
That's BASEBALL, Bitches!
I keep telling you people, Baseball is a game played by human beings, and human beings cannot be so easily quantified and they can’t be programmed (they can be taught, which is a different concept).
>8P
What happened to Ted Lilly, he’s not starting on Sunday? Looks like Randy Wells instead?
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers.jsp?c_id=sf
Team records in September so far:
Marlins 14-8
Rockies 14-8
Braves 13-8
Giants 10-12 (3-6 in their last 9 home games)
Everyone’s tired in September, but everyone has a 40-man roster to work with as well. This is EXACTLY the time when you want to throw some rookies into the mix to give your team an extra spark. Bochy’s done it with the pitching staff (Runzler) and failed to do it with the hitters (even though he has a top prospect sitting on the bench).
We’re all a broken record on the subject of Posey, but I think the team records above are actually the biggest indictment of Bochy as a manager.
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
Well, like you said, the whole benefit of 40-man rosters is to actually use the young guys you’re bringing up because they’re likely to be a bit fresher than the guys “who have been here all year.” But Bochy is morally opposed to doing that most of the time, so it should come as no surprise that “the guys who got us here” are gassed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
and the best part is, the guys he’s refusing to take out aren’t very good in the first place, so he shouldn’t really be that concerned with a big drop off.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Fun Fact
John Bowker is still, overall, hitting pretty poorly.
After last night – just one game -, he’s now ahead of Randy Winn and Edgar Renteria by OPS+ and only 2 points behind Bengie Molina. He also now has the 4th highest SLG on the team – at .438.
Another fun fact: Eli Whiteside’s OPS+ is down to 33.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
33 OPS+ – still not quite Bocockian, but getting there.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
No, but Rohlinger and a few other guys had negative OPS+es in limited PAs. Guzman’s is negative this year; not that hard to do if you get very few chances.
Bocock’s was 12, and that was in 93 PAs.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it when Omar was slumping a few of us were paying attention to how low it would go but eventually he brought it back up.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
You’re right, looks like his low point was a .391 OPS which I guess would be pretty close to zero OPS+.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you pay the royalties for your word usage?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
It’s really remarkable that Bowker is now ahead of Winn in OPS+ despite having just a .264 OBP.
No, not remarkable – what’s that other word?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Execrable?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
depressing
But if he got his BABIP up to like .300, his overall line would be a lot better!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, depressing, that’s the one.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
INCONCEIVABLE!
(You keep using that word, I don’t think it means what you think it means)
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
It think it’s definitely something we can remark about.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
It do?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 25, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It do.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least that was just a run of the mill typo.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
either should we
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
broken record is broken
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It could be worse. We could be watching the Nationals
From KLAW this morning
Already on a plane out of Dulles … I can’t watch the #Nationals any more. I might have to file for worker’s comp.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
ouch
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Sep 25, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
there were times back a few yrs when Lee would destroy Giants pitching, steal bases, play good D, and I coveted him playing for us.
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
by foothillsfan on Sep 25, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
and he’s from around here. His dad’s a legend in Sacramento (and should be a legend in Japan).
Too bad it’s too late to buy low.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Wild Card sucks
the two main problems with the wild card, is that it’s supplanted the great pennant races with races between lesser teams, and the wild card races are usually defined by losing as much if not more than winning.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
another reason it sucks:
In a 162-game season — the most arduous trail of all major sports — it is hard to argue that one is the best team in baseball when it wasn’t even the best team in its division. I think the season should dictate much more about the championship than it does. (Examples: record should dictate home field advantage, not All Star Game; only division winners advance, no wild card, team with best record in each league gets a bye to the LCS while the other teams duke it out to play in the LCS. Yes, yes, I know that means fewer games and fewer teams in contrived “contention” which means less revenue, so it won’t happen.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 25, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s certainly possible that the second best team in a division is better than the winners of the other two divisions… in other words the three division winners aren’t necessarily the best three teams in a league.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 25, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I love the idea of having two wild-card teams, but they must then play each other in a one-game playoff to determine who advances to the REAL playoffs. That way you keep more teams alive in September but also make the division title really worth fighting for.
Yep
At this point, though, I think the best solution is to go in the other direction completely. It’s been effectively decided that how teams perform over the long grind of the regular season is less important that how they can perform in the more rest, fewer starters/more relievers environment of the post-season. Therefore, I think they should shorten the season significantly, by at least two weeks, probably more, and have six or even eight playoff teams from each league, playing four rounds of best-of-seven. Everyone’s in the playoffs, like the NHL or the NBA; the regular season is just a really long series of exhibitions.
From a purist point of view, it’s crap, because we know that the best team is the one that plays the best over 162 games — a big enough sample to really separate the wheat from the chaff — not the one that happens to get hot for a couple of weeks in October. But we already have a world in which the 2006 Cardinals can be crowned “World Champions.” Might as well go all the way with it. It’s at least exciting for a lot more fans.
It's even worse...
When I was growing up there were only 4 divisions so there were only 4 teams in the postseason. There were only 26 teams which means that roughly 15% of the teams got in. In 1980, the Orioles won 100 games yet finished 3 games behind the yankees in the AL East and stayed home. So pre-expansion, it would have potentially made sense to add the WC which would have meant that 23% of teams get in. Post-expansion, but pre-WC, 20% of the teams got in, but now 27% of teams get in. That is too much. This is all a very long-winded way of saying that I agree with you!
I propose that they do away with all of the expansion teams, especially the ones that have gone to the WS.
that bugs me too—the Florida’s, Colorado’s, Devil Rays….jealous
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah, the DBags
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
They should eliminate every team that wins a WS, expansion or not.
That way the Giants are guaranteed to win one within 30 years!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
that might be what it takes
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You lost me.
What year(s) are post-expansion but pre-WC? Rockies/Marlins joined in 93 making 28 teams, realignment & the WC started in 94 (or would have if the season had finished). So it went down to 14% in 93 (4 of 28) and then to 28.5% (8 of 28).
I don’t really see how you add the WC to a 4 division setup anyway. Giving one team a bye week seems like a bad idea, and not necessarily a benefit to that team.
Anyway, I didn’t like the idea of the WC when first introduced (largely on knee-jerk basis, frankly) but I like it now. The days of the great pennant races also featured a lot of seasons of ho-hum Septembers where everything was pretty much decided.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
possible solution?
make eight divisions, only the winner of each advances; probably would require some expansion. Yanks/Red Sox would be a hitch, probably.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Or make 4 divisions and the top two from each could go to the playoffs.
/has given up on this season.
that’s interesting; have to mulva that over
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Realign NL into 4 divisions and eliminate the WC.
AL doesn’t have enough teams for realignment, so I guess they’re stuck.
NL WEST
Giants
Dodgers
Padres
DBs
NL MOUNTAINS&RIVERS
Cardinal
Cubs
Brewers
Rockies
NL DIXIE
Braves
Marlins
Astros
Nats
NL URBAN-NORTH
Phils
Mets
Bucs
Reds
No problem, just add AL expansion teams in Portland, OR and Charlotte, NC:
AL West: Oakland, LA, Seattle, Portland
AL North: Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago, Cleveland
AL East: NY, Boston, Toronto, Baltimore
AL South: KC, Texas, Tampa, Charlotte
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by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Charlotte, I dig, but Portland?
Is the metropolitan area populous enough for MLB?
This AL alignment would be less clunky than any NL configuration.
Montreal could use a team
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Except they’re way east and we’re trying to find a western team if Portland doesn’t work.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Montreal
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it is. Let’s just go ahead and do it.
We are talking about sending the A’s to Portland, yes?
by chilibean_3 on Sep 25, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the problem with your NL configuration is splitting CO and AZ between two divisions. But there’s no real way around that, unless you relocate the Brewers to Sacramento or something.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to ship the DBags out to the junior circuit, if at all possible.
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by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland is a larger metro area than Milwaukee and Kansas City and about the same size as the Twin Cities. Of course those are all small markets that have trouble competing financially.
Theory v. Practice
The league/divisions and post-season arrangements are made by MLB solely on the basis of what seems likely to maximize revenue; they have zero interest in the baseball aspects of the thing. Thus, any discussion of changes is purely for amusement value.
That said, my feeling is that the ideal would be four seven-team leagues—call them “divisions” if you want to keep to the present terminology—with zero interleague (or inter-divisional) play, and a change to a 156-game season to make a balanced schedule possible. The attraction of the World Series used to be, in good part, that here were two teams that had never played each other before, amping up speculation and excitement. How exciting is it to have a team lose a post-season round to a team that they beat in the regular-season series, and maybe even in regular+post combined?
Of course, I’d also like the DH to go away and rosters to be 26 men, so . . . .
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I endorse all these
You’d have my vote for commisioner of baseball. If, y’know, I had a vote.
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So would it be such a horrible thing to trade Wilson?
Not because of last night, but because the Giants have an abundance of bullpen pitching and he’s the most fungible commodity they have (outside of the minors). If there could be a package deal made for a legitimate SS or 3B, I’d be all for it. And by legitimate, I mean not an embarrassment. It wouldn’t take much to please me, here. Unrealistic, but I’d actually be pretty thrilled if it happened. We’d probably have to give up a prospect or two in the bargain…
Also, I don’t really like Wilson’s face, and would much prefer to see Romo on a regular basis.
we sort of went through this last night- and before the homer….
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/9/24/1053949/wilson-for-fielder
The Giants had 2 looks at Wilson before making him closer...
And the second was vastly better than the first. Romo, however, has slightly regressed. Romo needs one more year with more innings to show if he has closer durability. If successful, I would not be adverse to a Wilson trade. All the same, I think B-Weezy (like Cain) should get at least one shot at making the playoffs as a Giant.
All those who actually pay money to buy tickets, concessions, gear and what have you...
Are giving their tacit approval of the Giants organization.
If I go to a restaraunt and the chef shits in my soup, pisses in my wine, comes out and molests my wife and tells me to be happy about, and I keep returning, I’m a fucking idiot.
Likewise, to buy tickets to watch the utter moron Bochy continually trot out the feces of MLB night after night is equally idiotic.
I haven’t spent one fucking dime on this piece of shit organization in two years, and I won’t spend a fucking penny on it until these two asswipes Sabean and Bochy are gone.
The only way to get the attention of the FO is through their wallets, IMO, and to continue to support this travesty is absurd.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 25, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
Brian Wilson has been great this year. He should have been an all star, he should get a good payout for next year. This stuff happens. Had the Giants provided a few more runs when they had the opportunity the HR he gave up would have not mattered. The guy filling in for Baggs said “Wilson will no doubt incur some wrath from Giants fans for this killer loss”. I hope not, he is just another talented pitcher on this club who got hoodwinked by his offense.
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Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
To expect perfection from a baseball player is totally unrealistic.
On the other hand, for a manager to have seen Wilson’s propensity for allowing baserunners in tight situations and not understand what he’s seeing is grounds for removal.
I have no problem with Wilson failing occasionally. My problem is the fuckwit Bochy who has the comprehension of a brain damaged toad. How this buffoon has managed to retain employment is a testimony to the inefficient market theory of baseball.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 25, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure what you're ranting about here...
…are you saying Bochy should have pulled Wilson after he walked Lee? Or that Bochy shouldn’t be using Wilson as the closer at all? I really don’t see anything egregious in the way he handled the pitching last night. In hindsight, maybe Penny could’ve finished the game. But that decision doesn’t approach the realm of idiocy.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
With a 1 run lead Wilson pitched around the main HR threat.
Tactically, that was not a bad idea. Baker has been dogmeat against Wilson before last night. He had only 3 HR besides.
Although I would have preferred one more slider on the outside corner, walking Baker would have brought Aramis Ramirez into the game with 2 on.
You think he should have removed Wilson after allowing one baserunner? WTF?
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Baserunners are bad. It’s really not that hard to figure out. Every baserunner = 1 run.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I’ll stop doing this soon. I’m getting a little bored with it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re bored with it?
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by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
this thing? is that what you’re bored with?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No, this “saying something somebody else said that was stupid and pretending I’m serious” joke I’ve been doing the last two days.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m bored
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Sep 25, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, you haven't been serious?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Has it really only been two days? I thought that was your whole schtick.
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No, that’s not my schtick.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well whose shtick is it, then?
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Iono.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, whoever’s schtick it is can claim it from the lost & found.
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Giants what now?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants Ticketing News
Giants Postseason Division Series Tickets on sale today at 10am!
wow, thanks Giants ticketing office, that is wildly optimistic
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I LOL'd when I saw that
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Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
by kbsofaraway08 on Sep 25, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Hate to say it, but as a life-long Giants fan, I expected this
I wrote off playoff hopes after the 14 inning Colorado loss and have enjoyed September’s games for what they are… a game. Yes, last night truly sucked (Rowand strikes out ugly… again; Wilson walks a batter… again; and then he pulls a Howry by giving up the game winner), but I’m still taking my kids to next Tuesday’s game and will also go to the season ender on Wednesday.
You know Wilson hasn’t given up a walk since August, right?
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Or “hadn’t”, rather.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I held out hope a bit longer than you…until the San Diego series at home, but yeah, as a long-time Giants fan you do get used to crushing disappointment every season. The frustration this year is that if we’d had a more competent GM and manager we might have gotten into the playoffs. We may not have gotten far but the playoffs would have rewarded the excellence of our pitching staff.
It’s frustrating but I guess in hindsight, less frustrating than what happened in seasons when we fielded stronger teams AND were expected to contend. I’ve been a fan since 1997 and have excruciatingly painful memories of the way the Giants ended each season from that point on – being swept by the Marlins in 1997, falling short against the Cubs in ‘98, watching JT Snow’s homerun against the Mets go for naught in ‘00, being eliminated by the Dodgers in ’01, the agony of Game 6 in ’02, Jose Cruz Jr’s dropped fly ball in ‘03, the Dodgers again in ’04, etc. I don’t think the end of this season will be as tough for me looking back.
We’re closing out the year with a couple of games as well, on Sunday and Wednesday.
The Day we Signed Garko
is the day it was over. We signed a non-dimensional player with the name of an alien from a bad sci-fi movie or a Balkan despot rather than commit to something both short and long-term like Victor Martinez (f that was even in the cards). We are stuck in “grizzled veteran” land with a manager who doesn’t have a clue and a collection of one-dimensional to worse players and we all know who they are. I advocated bringing Posey up long before the September call-ups and was shouted down by so many folks on here talking about “Molina’s veteran leadership”, the same folks who now want Molina gone as well. Teams need guts. Managers need guts. I wrote a few weeks back that this team needs Tony LaRussa or Bobby Valentine. If Molina gets anything more than one year I’m gone and planning on rooting for whatever team signs Timmie when he’s up for FA cause he won’t stay around trying to match Gibson’s ‘68 ERA since that’s the only way he’ll win consistently here. And by consistently I mean this kid has a chance to be AN ALL-TIME GREAT. He is magical. If Timmie’s dad is smart he’s already looking at houses in Boston or New York.
by nybaseballgiants on Sep 25, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions
whaat
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I think you posted all that stuff you said you posted and got bitched at by all those people you said you got bitched at on another website.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 25, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you read this site? There weren’t many folks talking about “Molina’s veteran leadership”. Don’t think you were the lone brave soldier who believed in Posey. Also, Garko is a veteran like Fred Lewis is a veteran. They’ve both had the same amount of years in the big leagues, and Garko is actually younger than Lewis. However, Bochy has decided not to play him, so basing your opinion of him on a smattering of games doesn’t amount to much.
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For pity's sake . . . .
Look at some actual data, hm? Garko, that “grizzled veteran” of age 28 in his 4th MLB season. But he must be bad because someone thinks his name is funny (didn’t we outgrow that crap, say, 30 or 40 years ago?) His OPS history is good. His fielding was terrible a few years ago, when he first came up, but he has been a dedicated and hard worker, and it is now close to average and still improving. But rants have tender skins while facts have sharp corners . . . .
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Giants management proved we were NOT in this thing when we lost that series to San Diego
I love the players, I’m still rooting for the team to win each individual game, nothing’s going to stop me from being a fan – but I lost all hope for this season after we lost our second game on Wednesday, September 9th (in two days against the Padres).
Yes, Renteria (0-4) and Torres (batting first) were both in the lineup that day. Yes, Zito had a bad day allowing 3 runs that day. And yes, we used Velez as our pinch-hitter that day. (We batted Velez top of the batting order when we lost the day before.)
Chalk me up for the “fire Bochy” bandwagon at least. With his management of the team, we guaranteed our having ZERO chance at being in this thing. If by some freak against the laws of nature miracle we had captured the wildcard spot, our management would have ensured losing in the first playoff series.
Go Giants.
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I've lost hope multiple times.
First during the Dodgers series in August, then after losing 3 of 4 in Colorado, then in Philly, and then the last 2 series against the Dodgers. Each time the team looked overmatched going up against a potential playoff team.
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