MCC exerts its power
by achiappanza on Sep 22, 2009 11:19 PM PDT
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There is a lot of considered thought and consensus fan will on this site that seems to me should be heard by Giants ownership. Today's entry on what Bengie represents is a good example. Those are some good points that a rational person would be nuts to not even bother reading.
We joke all the time about what crazy wackadoo perspectives the fellas in charge must have, but I'm suggesting we do the opposite. We know that Bill Neukom has been a Giants fan longer than most of us, has enough brains to amass a significant personal fortune, and seems to genuinely care what happens to the team. Let's assume that he's open to hearing intelligent perspectives from his customers, and that he doesn't have the time to personally follow this site.
What then would be an effective means of influencing the future of the Giants?
Let's say we start with this: We collectively decided the most effective posts of the year through a thread (after agreeing on what a readable length is), and someone offers to print 'em out and either hand deliver or mail them to Bill. Follow-up options could include:
Option #1: We include some contact information, but other than that, we've said our piece and call it a day.
Option #2: We offer ourselves as a pretty good focus group for his target market and offer to meet with him or his people to explain how they can best market the team to us.
Option #3: We attempt to quantify our market power in the form of dollars spent and committed to his enterprise, and behave as though the only language these people understand is money.
Could be more, but I for one would like to do more than howl at the moon.
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LUNATIC FRINGE
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Sep 22, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
MCC BOYCOTTS GNATS AS LONG AS BORK COACHES / REFUSES TO PLAY WITH A LOGICAL LINEUP! WHO’S WITH MEEEEEEE?!?!?!
Felicitations, malefactors! I am endeavoring to misappropriate the formulary for the preparation of affordable comestibles. Who will join me!?
by MetalFaceDoom on Sep 22, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants did that
We probably wouldn’t have attended a game since, hmm, uh, well, before I was a smart enough fan to pick apart a lineup. Definitely before Dusty.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Sep 23, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'VE GOT IT!
We all buy tickets for the same section. Then when the game starts we all get up and leave at the same time! It has to work!
by chilibean_3 on Sep 23, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s why the Pirates won the Central this year.
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Sep 23, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if a blog starts to take itself too seriously, then it is all downhill from there
by FluLikeSymptoms on Sep 23, 2009 12:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, intelligence equates to personal wealth. All the physicists I know are filthy rich. And you know, rich, smart, and talented assholes like Sabean have been receptive to different perspectives in the past so…
by Rorsavelt on Sep 23, 2009 3:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Read my post
I’m suggested we bypass Sabean. And are you really contending that successful businessmen can’t possibly also be intelligent?
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see it now
Neukom — Let’s start with the catching situation…
Achiappanza — Well, look at these stats on Bengie….
McC1 — STFD
McC2 — STFD
McC3 — Suck it , Russell Martin
McC3 — TWSS
McC4 — Heh, I was just about to say that.
McC5 — STFD
McC6,7, 8 – BORK, BORK, BORK, BORK, BORK
McC 9 (nostalgic oldtimer) — Hal Lanier, I’m just sayin"
(insert creepy kitten picture here)…
Neukom — Um…
(insert thread hijack on favorite beers)
Neukom — Well, thanks for your help. I’ve got a call here I have to take….
McC chorus — TWSS
by NearestNorwich on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Nice.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Sep 23, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah!
True, which is why I suggested only certain posts!
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
turn it green!
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 23, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neukom’s gonna be really confused when everyone in the focus group yells “Turn it green!” after someone says something they like.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 23, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’d respond by touting the solar panels at the park and how the ushers collet recyclables after the 7th inning.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 23, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand the frustration level, I think we all do. I just don’t think anything coming from us “fringers” is going to be taken seriously, heck I doubt they even read anything fans send in. Secretaries undoubtedly screen it all and very little, if anything ever makes it to the Brass at all.
If people want to send letters to the Brass personally… the sheer volume of 500 letters – coming in from all over the world, each starting out with “I’m very concerned with the direction of this team….” and having 456 of those letters all start out with the top 3 issues of the day: 1) It isn’t fair to Bengie to make Bengie be the clean up hitter 2) We NEED a clean up hitter and 3) Something has to done regarding player development issues involving younger members of the team…. that might eventually, by letter # 442 might at least get somebody to sit up and take notice.
Snail mailed letters get more attention than emailed missives. I think people are shocked to receive snail mail these days.
If the Giants end up getting their keisters handed to them by the Cubs over the weekend… I might be annoyed enough to write a letter myself. Usually though such things go unseen by the folks they were intended for.
by Merope on Sep 23, 2009 6:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Would you consider organizing a letter-writing campaign for us? Just to be sure (1) our letters are sent to the right address, and (2) we all make the same general points (but individually enough so that it doesn’t come off as a form letter.)
I think your main point is correct – snail mail would be more impressive.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Sep 23, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In print, absolutely
Please note that I never said e-mail. I said “Print ’em out and hand-deliver or mail.”
That said, this is a great option too. In fact, clearly hand written notes get more attention than computer-generated ones these days.
We can be virtually certain that Giants management listens to someone besides the voices in their own heads. They make references to what they hear all the time. What we don’t know is:
1) Is this limited to asking people they already personally know? Again, the benefit of the doubt suggests no reasonable businessman fails to connect to his own customers.
2) What efforts have ever been made by Giants fans to clearly communicate in a coordinated manner? I actually know of none.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 out of 1000 Giants fans understands what BABIP means. You can’t be considered anything more than the Lunitic Fringe until the fans gets more educated. In short, Neukom doesn’t care what 500 Giants fans think. We’re just an obscured bunch lost in the vast sea of the Giants faithful.
Our job in this balance is to make sure more and more fans become educated every day. To turn away the thinking that 7 for 18 with RISP is a relevant stat, that HR and RBI matters, that wins and ERA are definitive representation of a pitcher’s skill set.
Progress is a slow process, but if one more person was made aware of what it means to look at the game the right way than yesterday, we have done a good job today.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Sep 23, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't give really solid fans the credit they deserve.
I think its a lot more than 1 in 1000. NO I did not do a scientific poll to determine my opinion, but my gut instinct is that a lot more giants fans know their stuff, just a lot are not nerdy enough to post in a place like the McCovey Chronicles.
by bradleybear on Sep 23, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
That’s not how persuasion works, in my experience. Leaders, whether they are corporate or political, respond to squeaky wheels, especially those who convince them that they represent lots of people. This is why there are lobbyists.
Doesn’t hurt to change the masses, of course, but that’s the slow road.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
slow road it may be
Newton’s 4th rule : Knee Jerk actions are met with equal and opposite knee jerk reactions shortly thereafter
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Sep 23, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 out of 1000?
BABIP? For crap’s sake, we still hear ERA and RIBBIEZ used to explain roster moves.
It’s possible the jumbotron is powered by a fire lit each night by two cavemen with sticks.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever heard the term, know your place?
You’re a fan. If you want to make real change then work your way into the Giant’s organization. But judging from your post you are probably a minimum of 5-10 years away from making that a reality so looks like you have some work to do.
We just traded who for who?!
by BawLa on Sep 23, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the first step is to identify 5 principles that we all agree upon, which is probably going to be like hearding cats.
It’s real easy to yell out “Fire Bochy!”, but a more effective and agreeable statement might be something like “If Bruse Bochy insists on ignoring statistical data in determining which Giants receive playing time, he should not be managing this team.”
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 23, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruse?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 23, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another one might be “Bengie Molina and Randy Winn represent two of the least effective offensive players on the team and are not part of the Giants’ future. They should not be re-signed for 2010.”
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 23, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would you translate “WE NEED MOAR DINGERZ!”?
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Sep 23, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First step
Yes, I agree. I’m thinking that a poll with multiple votes is in order.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well we were the ones who linked DUSTIN ACKLEY to COCAINE
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by cloudydays on Sep 23, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its the fringers that made silicon valley what it is.
If you want to have your say, apply for a job with the giants brass. I already thought that some of you have a direct line with Neukom. I’m sure someone on the giants is reading this stuff, but its hard to sift through the brilliant comments from the garbage.
by bradleybear on Sep 23, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
its hard to sift through the brilliant comments from the garbage.
Not really. The brilliant stuff is on the main page. The garbage isn’t.
by Grant on Sep 23, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Heh nice.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Sep 23, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also true
When I talk about printing out posts, I’m talking about the articles, not the responses. Some of those are well-thought out and articulated.
Others, well you know.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you don't know others we'll introduce ourselves.
Action. Letters. Yes.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 23, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do know that people other than steve post on the main page, right?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Sep 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes Brute and sometimes Baron.
Technically, I could do it, but I’m waiting until I actually want to get banned to play that card.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IC Grant recced this comment with all of his socks.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually quite easy
I do it by username.
What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?
by otis29 on Sep 23, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Sep 23, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
This is great.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Sep 23, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I’m here for the LOLcats, mostly.
"If you want to walk, watch a mailman."--Shawon Dunston
"If you want to bunt, bake a cake."--Bruce Bochy
by Kitspool on Sep 23, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were always a few like you at the Green Party meetings, too.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Sep 23, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? Are we like Anonymous now?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
LOL FRED
by ringleader3 on Sep 23, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone going to the Sabean "Chalk Talk" before Friday's game?
We could ambush him with stats, ask him what indicators he looks at in evaluating players, whether he influences the manager’s lineup choices, and so on. Maybe laugh when he says stuff that’s patently untrue. Stuff like that. If Bill Neukom is there to witness it, so much the better.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 23, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone go? Or is it just season ticket holders?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
LOL FRED
by ringleader3 on Sep 23, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A subset of season ticketholders who were invited.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 23, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, boo. I’m not a season ticket holder.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
LOL FRED
by ringleader3 on Sep 23, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say that a REAL revolutionary would not let that stop him or her.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 23, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/sneaks up and steals the mayor’s ticket from his back pocket.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
LOL FRED
by ringleader3 on Sep 23, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhhh, the ghosts of Sam Adams, Simon Bolivar, and Che Guevara are smiling upon you now.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 23, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
a real revolutionary would open the side door and let all us yippies and weathermen in
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a season ticket holder and I didn't get an invite.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
by SFGuy on Sep 23, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, they have a few chalk talks through the year, inviting different groups of STH.
This is my first invitation to one of these this year. In fact, I don’t think I got one last year. But contact your customer service rep and see if she or he can hook you up; sometimes they can.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve gotten on in two or three years. I’ve gotten beer and wine tasting invites. I got an invite to a season ticket holder’s autograph signing during Fan Fest (the one I had was with Dave Roberts, sigh).
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
by SFGuy on Sep 24, 2009 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get autograph invite.
(sniff)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the last chalk talk of the year is when they traditionally invite the dimwits.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 24, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that makes a lot of sen--- HEY!
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
balls
I wanna go and be all gadfly.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 24, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could work.....
but it wont
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 23, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It is known
That this is one of the largest if not the largest Giants fan site on the internet. Any business worth a shit would be keeping tabs on the temperature here, because they know that what goes on here is reflective of a much larger # of their customers.
As such, I think the most effective means to communicate a message to someone who could do something about it would be to collectively form something along the lines of a “Giants Fans Bill of Rights” listing maybe 5-10 simple, significant, and clear issues with the direction the team is currently headed.
This bill of rights could then be featured front and center on the main page of this blog for a week or so. We know the local media personalities read this site – if said BOR was articulated well and simple enough to form talking points from it could really get traction.
There is a lot of frustration w/ the Giants out there right now since the shine of this sorta contending season has worn off… A well played message could really trickle up effectively.
Also, 500 calls to KNBR asking them to address said BOR wouldn’t hurt :)
by FairweatherFan on Sep 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS COULD WORK YOU GUYZ
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Sep 23, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously , what would be the downside of at least an attempt to directly reach management?
Or more indirectly directly (thirdhand) , anyway…
“You cannot win if you do not play.” – Steve Forbert
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 23, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Haven't you been reading the naysayers?
You have a lot to learn about nurturing powerlessness, my friend. Haven’t you read the blurbs that your only choices are to admit defeat without trying or to dedicate yourself to a new career in Giants management? There is no middle ground, mister!
Seriously, there is no downside.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would could become a lauhing stock, and ruin Grant's quest for a press credential
Not to mention access to the sportswriters’ spread.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Sep 23, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is this Grant you speak of?
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 23, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
That identity we invented so that none of the libelous and threatening rants on the front page could be tracked back to their actual authors. I still can’t believe that we’ve gotten away with such a ridiculous pseudonym as “Grant Brisbee”.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Sep 23, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by “quest for”, you mean “active aversion to any possibility of”, this would be a concern.
by Grant on Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel your pain
I, too, have an irrational fear that Ray Ratto will accidentally consume my hand when I reach for the potato salad.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Sep 23, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention access to the sportswriters’ spread.
Grant’s gonna nail Joan Ryan?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 24, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about wasted time?
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Sep 24, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Compared to how I currently spend it if I wrote one letter I'd seem a friggin' dynamo.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 24, 2009 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential letter content
I’m mulling over a letter structure, and I’m thinking it breaks into two main sections, kind of like this:
Things that were easily predictable, and in fact, widely predicted:
+ Bengie Molina would not turn out to be a worthy cleanup hitter. (Supporting evidence, blah blah)
+ Adam Dunn would hit 40 homers like he always does; and that $20MM for two years would look like a reasonable price for a cleanup hitter in retrospect
+ Big money spent on guys who aren’t the last piece of the puzzle (Rowand, Zito) is not money well-spent
+ Signing Rich Aurilia was not going to be a better use of playing time than trying out the young guys (Fransden, Velez)
+ Giving young players a chance that consists of less than 50 AB’s undermines the value of the chance and the odds of success.
Things that are currently very predictable, yet the Giants are not acting accordingly:
+ PA’s right now by guys like Posey and Bowker are going to seem more valuable than those of Winn and Molina now that we are, barring a miracle, out of it.
+ A blatant disregard of OBP is the historical equivalent of doubling down on a 4.
+ (Grant) “Plugging each and every lineup hole through free agency isn’t cost effective, and it’s likely to leave the team with overpaid, declining players.”
+ (Goofus) ""Bengie Molina and Randy Winn represent two of the least effective offensive players on the team and are not part of the Giants’ future. They should not be re-signed for 2010."
And so on. How about some more bullet points and we can weed down afterwards?
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Sep 23, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“+ Big money spent on guys who…”
Didn’t know Molina did gay porn
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Sep 24, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would leave off the Dunn part.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, that was my snipe!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McC Statistical Analysis
I think Neukom and the FO will pay devout attention to the comments on this blog if we overwhelm them with statistics about the contributors to the blog. I have in mind, for example, exposing N. and FO with real, hard numbers about how many times we have had comments that could be graphed by Xanthan as fitting in with:
VORP = Veterans Occupying Roster Pathology
wOBA = Walks’ Overall Benefits Apathy
BB/K = Benjie Batting? Kaput!
SBA/G = Sanchez Brittle! Alderson Gone.
WSAB = Winn Starting Above Bowker
IBB = Incinerate Bruce Bochy
DL = Deus Lincecumus
SF = [abbreviation for STFU or STFD]
ZIPS = Zito, I’m Sorry for Slanders
by campanari on Sep 23, 2009 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How about starting a chant at all remaining home games?
Instead of "Let’s Go Giants", how about "Let The Kids Play"? It probably wouldn’t be too hard to get it going around the park. I’d do it, but I’m not going to any more games this year (over a 200 mile drive).
by Jakespaar on Sep 24, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t someone say there was a chant at a game for Posey? I may be misremembering.
We aren’t going to any more games this season either, it’s a bummer.
by Merope on Sep 24, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s right; don’t you live a long distance away also?
by Jakespaar on Sep 24, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants actually got good, like real good...
What would we all do? Seriously, this place is more fun when I can read or engage in my own bitching and moaning.
So now you have to weigh whether you want a cool site where you can vent, or a real good team. It’s up to you. I can make it happen. I am Duke Neukom and I have that power. You have until midnight. Leave your answer on the top of Coit Tower in the satchel marked “Don’t Touch This”.
/autodefenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Sep 24, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh, we’ll find something to complain about regardless of the Giants successes or failures.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Sep 24, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The better the team, the more there is to complain about.
Seems counter-intuitive, but really marginal BS becomes fodder for 100-post b1tch threads on a good team.
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by Bhaakon on Sep 24, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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