Leadoff

What do you guys think about going after guys like Drew Stubbs, or Ryan Raburn for next year? Both can play anywhere in the OF, and both can hit leadoff, something the Giants really need (besides power). I really like Stubbs and the Reds seem to have a logjam in the OF. Just wondering.

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I would think Stubbs would be pretty expensive to acquire (prospect wise.) So young and playing well. Might be able to get a veteran leadoff guy for cheaper

Not sure about Raburn. I was never all that impressed with him, but I don’t watch Detroit all that much so I could be wrong

by m34josh on Sep 20, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Plus, Stubb has never been that good in the minors.

He isn’t terribly patient, has little power, and K’s alot. I don’t know what his defense is like, but it would have to elite to make him a worthwhile target.

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by Bhaakon on Sep 20, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stubbs has always been scene as a potential gold glove center fielder.

If things work out I could see Stubbs being an above average overall player, but he’s not what we’re missing (IMO) and I don’t think the Reds will be trading him any time soon.

Unless they’re serious about moving Votto to LF, I think Yonder Alonso might become available.

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Sep 20, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Niether are exactly what I would like for a lead off guy. The OBP is not quite there enough to make hope the Giatns go after them.

Stubbs I find interesting because his age and if his glove work pans out; But again not enough to way out of the way to get. If Lewis’s K’s bother you it is very possible Stubb’s will as well in 2 seasons or so.

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by daveinexile on Sep 20, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Stubbs is not what we need

and the Reds have no reason to want to move him.

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by NeifiChicken on Sep 20, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

who do you propose leadsoff next year? Lewis?

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by cain1rstballothof on Sep 20, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 20, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lewis probably wouldn’t suck. Which isn’t to speak toward his ability to be good. I’m just saying that he’s fairly accomplished at not sucking. And his walks and pitches taken would be nice to see out of leadoff.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Most sane people look at Lewis and think that he wouldn’t be a bad option at leadoff. The Giants looked at Lewis and thought he would be a great #3 hitter.

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by marcello on Sep 21, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Giants look at Lewis and see the 25th man.

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by Bhaakon on Sep 21, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At this point, I think they see the 26th man

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by groug on Sep 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Torres as good as he's looked recently?

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by GiantPain on Sep 22, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Natto on Sep 22, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

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by Cookyman on Sep 22, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

why are you so sad

Also, andres’s OPS is over 800 on the year. he’s worth being considered in a leadoff platoon

I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

by GiantPain on Sep 22, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But the problem

Is that his year consists of 113 AB’s. His career line is .224/.283/.351. He strikes out a ton, is impatient, and doesn’t have power (yeah I know he hit 5 HR’s this year – his career high is 11, as a 30 y-o in the minors). He really shouldn’t be hitting anywhere in the lineup, let alone leadoff.

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by Cookyman on Sep 22, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Frankly, if Bochy thought he could hit, he wouldn’t call for a bunt in the first inning after a leadoff double.

I can’t think of a rational reason to give up an out in the first inning with a man in scoring position and ZERO OUTS unless you really just don’t think the guy can hit.

In which case Bochy was right. Either that, or he’s just an idiot. Both seem valid here.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Sep 22, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs