The return of Barry? Says ESPN...
by sm559 on Sep 16, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
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I already know much ink has been spilled on the McCC over whether or not to bring back Barry. So I just thought I'd bring it up one more time since it seems relevant with this article being published today in ESPN Page 2.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/090916_offbase&sportCat=mlb
The only compelling argument Caple has is: "If the Dodgers can sign Manny Ramirez, the Yankees can have A-Rod and Andy Pettitte and the Red Sox use Big Papi, the Giants shouldn't feel bad about bringing back Barry." This is weak at best (a la 3rd grade playground banter - "he's cheating so I should be able to too.") Even though I grew up idolizing Barry and still sport his jersey to games sometimes, I've been more than happy turning a new leaf these past couple years and leaving the Barry-roid era in the past. In honesty, I think this article was written for all those fans that are missing some good competition and excitement in their division. While out here in the NL West I feel like every game has been for a berth in the playoffs since the All-Star break. Barry I love you, but I don't miss you.
Giants loyalists thoughts?
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I miss Barry.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 16, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
prove it
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by The Thrill on Sep 16, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not going to happen.
Also just in the hypothetical situation where the Giants would do it, Bonds hasn’t played in a major league game in over 2 years and he’s 45 now and has recently had hip surgery within the past year and a half. And did I mention he hasn’t played a game in over 2 years? It would be one thing if he was pulling a Rickey Henderson and still playing Indy ball, but he’s not. Even though he would still reach base a lot via the walk, there is no way that a team would logically play a guy this old in must win games without knowing if he still has the bat speed, foot speed, and health to play 9 innings out in the outfield and contribute at the plate. It’s just stupid.
I love Barry as much as the next person and miss watching him play, but he’s not coming back. Move on and be happy we have young studs like Lincecum and Pablo around.
by Hobbes2d on Sep 16, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He still would’ve been a better option than Renteria at the plate last night……..even in his street clothes.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Sep 17, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonds[…]foot speed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I saw Bonds in 06 in seattle. His top speed then made snails everywhere feel better about their own shortcomings. Add two years of no conditioning to that, and you’ll have the longest full-speed home run trot ever.
by diffra on Sep 18, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would I want the baddest mother fucker to ever walk the Earth play LF instead of Eugene?
Yes.
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by NuschlerFace on Sep 16, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You want Lincecum in LF?!?
I dont think that will work so well.
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by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Sep 16, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want Buster Posey to play LF?!
his value is much high as a catcher.
FREE BUSTER
by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 16, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want me to play LF?!?
I’m nearly 45 and have a shaky knee myself.
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by Goofus on Sep 17, 2009 5:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I thought you were at least 50!
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by NuschlerFace on Sep 17, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Clark?
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FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
by kennv on Sep 18, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How big of ESPN to graciously suggest that its okay for Barry to come back now that the ALEast has cheaters still playing within their division.
Next.
by dogdays on Sep 16, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well done.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Sep 16, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, to be fair, Caple’s based in Seattle… and tends to snipe at ESPN at times =P
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by woomikee on Sep 17, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think maybe the point was not giving permission to the Giants, but that now that so many known PED users are employed by other teams, it would be much more difficult for Bonds to be singled out as he was before.
In 2007, it was easy to pick on Bonds at the time because all the other high profile guys (Sosa, Canseco, McGwire, Caminiti, Palmiero) were out of the game. Now that guys like Manny, Ortiz and all the other fun bunchers from the Mitchell report have been exposed, it’s a different story.
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by Goofus on Sep 18, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My two cents...
Would Barry still instill fear in most pitchers in the majors? YES
Would he play better left field than Lewis, Velez or Winn? PROBABLY
Would he fill more seats at any venue he played in? YE$
Would his intentional walks turn into more runs for the Giants, especially in later innings where he could be replaced with a speedy pinch runner? YES
Why not bring him back—he’s gonna be more of an help than Aurilia has been this year!!
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Sep 16, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to say that there’s no way in hell he plays better defense than Lewis, much less Winn. Lewis is no golden god of the glove, but he can at least run, which I’m guessing is more than Barry can do these days.
I don’t think he would feared by a lot of pitchers at this point in his career, if he came back. I have a feeling he would get pitched to a lot at first and forced to prove he deserves some IBB. The question, then, is if he can still hit the ball? My guess is that we’d see a decline, but he’d still be our best PH option, which is really the only role I’d want from him at this point. I don’t need him limping around left field in a close playoff game.
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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielding percentages...
Look at his Barry’s fielding stats compared to Lewis.
In his last full season in 2007, Barry played LF in 110 games and had 4 errors to finish with a .976 fielding percentage (lifetime in OF, Barry sports a .985 Fpct); in Fred Lewis 2008 season, he played LF in 112 games and committed 6 errors winding up with a .969 Fpct.
On the offense comparisons Lewis went 9HR, 40 RBI, 51 walks and batted .282 in 2008;
Barry had 28HR, 66 RBI, 132 walks and a .276 BA in 2007.
I find it kind of funny that you are concerned about Barry’s ability to run on a team that already has Molina, Sandoval, Aaron Rowand, Juan Uribe and Ryan Garko on it…Barry had 5 SB’s in 2007…Lewis only has 8 this year in 109 games.
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Sep 16, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielding percentage isn’t really a good way to measure a player’s fielding ability.
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by Natto on Sep 16, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I obviously agree, but I will point out in Barry’s case his fielding percentage does reflect what he does on D – that is, play very fundamental defense even if he has no range anymore. Great routes to balls, great footwork, quickly gets the ball in despite a weak arm, good first step, doesn’t drop the ball (fielding percentage!)…
by Missing Barry on Sep 16, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree, but we’re talking about comparing two players’ fielding percentages in different stages of their career here.
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by Natto on Sep 16, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah, Lewis is probably around 2325204 times better than Bonds in the field at this point.
by Missing Barry on Sep 17, 2009 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE Barry, and I can’t believe he wasn’t with the team the last couple years. No doubt Barry can still hit, if not at past levels, but his defense was pretty bad at the end and it’s not going to be any better.
Fielding % is a terrible stat that fails to measure range. Just discard it and look at some UZR numbers at fangraphs.com.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Sep 16, 2009 4:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
OK...if Fielding Percentage doesn't count for beans...
How about 8 Gold Gloves for Mr. Bonds?
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Sep 16, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gold Gloves don't really mean as much now either
Not saying Bonds was a bad fielder. He was a pretty good one. Lewis is better than the current version of Bonds though.
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by Natto on Sep 16, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rafael Palmeiro disagrees
he won a Gold Glove as a DH
by FluLikeSymptoms on Sep 16, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how that conflicts with what I said.
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by Natto on Sep 16, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't disagree more with this statement.
Lewis is the worst fielding outfielder I have ever seen at the MLB level.
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
by milesntrane on Sep 18, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You disagree that Bonds would be worse in the field at his current age than Fred Lewis? That’s a fairly ridiculous disagreement.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently you’ve never seen Adam Dunn play? Jack Cust? LF is actually one of the worst positions in baseball when it comes to defensive ability, it isn’t too hard for someone with Lewis’ athleticism to actually be decent even if he has issues that look so obvious to an observer.
by Missing Barry on Sep 21, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over Barry's lifetime, he is a better fielder than Lewis, yes
But 45 year-old-removed-from-baseball-for-2-years Barry Bonds will not field better than Lewis.
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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 16, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of those gold gloves were won
in his later years… Which means that even the people who don’t know anything about range statistics realized he had very little range.
And it’s true… He didn’t.
And he’s not likely to have as much nowadays.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Sep 16, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And heck yeah I would be concerned about his lack of running ability
Especially with those other guys in the lineup. You generally don’t want to compound the problem.
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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 16, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
With all these slow guys, will one more make a difference?
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"He won’t play until he gets some major league experience."
by El Person on Sep 16, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you hit Home Runs...
You can run as slow as you want. :)
"It kind of gives everybody else out there who is not a big person the motivation and the inspiration that they know they can do it, too."--Tim Lincecum
by Timlincecum.com on Sep 16, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw we sign Snow and Bonds, and bat the middle of the order like this:
3. Bonds
4. Molina
5. Snow
Aurilia can bat second or sixth. You pick.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robby Thompson is probably available
by FluLikeSymptoms on Sep 16, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s bring back Ellis Burks (he actually was my favorite as a Giant mainly because I liked him as a Red Sox. Nice guy, too).
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by SFGuy on Sep 17, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if we’re looking to instill fear in pitchers, we should sign Jim Rice.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 16, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Robin Ventura!
ba-ZING!
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by UnleashTheGore on Sep 17, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll entertain the notion merely to ask a question
Playoff eligibility?
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by hairball on Sep 16, 2009 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How long is this going to go on?
“Will Giants bring back Bonds? Slugger could “probably” move around without the wheelchair, sources say"
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by raisingcain on Sep 16, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even I gave up, and believe me, I didn’t want to.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Sep 16, 2009 4:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You’re telling me.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 16, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tomorrow ESPN is going to have a column advocating the return of Willie Mays
by FluLikeSymptoms on Sep 16, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
40 years from now
"Will Giants bring back Bonds? Slugger’s casket is on wheels and could "probably" be pushed around, sources say"
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by Goofus on Sep 17, 2009 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Sep 16, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so much.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 16, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s just too old with too many serious surgeries. I believe that Rickey Henderson would be more productive right now.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Sep 16, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even better:
Let’s sign Zombie Mel Ott.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 16, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would be ok with Mel Ott, but please don’t bring back Mel Hall
by FluLikeSymptoms on Sep 16, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let him come to spring training next year...........
…….. what do we have to lose! If he hits like old Barry then sign ala Uribe.
If we had 2007 version of Barry hitting cleanup instead of Molina me thinks we would definately “Be in this”… as in the playoffs!
by OTTOMATIC on Sep 16, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is negative zero chance...
…that Bonds signs an Uribe style contract (minor league with ST invite).
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by EliminateMe on Sep 16, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let Bonds be the player manager
of course, that would mean moving boche to another position
Hi ho.
by danh on Sep 16, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That mean 5 other players ahead of Posey on the depth chart
Molina, Whiteside, Bochy, Sandoval, and Garko
Then Posey =(
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by TehGreekStallion on Sep 17, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SIGN CHRISTY MATHEWSON CORPSE!!!
We need more zombie players. Zombies are fast now so it totally makes sense.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 17, 2009 7:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
UNDEAD SPEED NEVER SLUMPS!
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by EliminateMe on Sep 17, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
U R 5
Christy Mathewson’s great-great-grandchildren are still reeling from their loss?!?! I will fight you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 17, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
u
(already) ded dog (and have been for a long ass time)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Sep 17, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this mean we would get Pedro Gomez back also?
by Fresburg on Sep 17, 2009 7:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pedro does sideline reporting for World Cup qualifying now…lulz
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 17, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your argument is invalid
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by Headhunter Rollins on Sep 17, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No more Barry for Giants....Unless we could use him as a hitting coach?
Ah the ole" Bring back Barry!’ song….NOoooooo! I loved Barry and had MANY happy moments watching him play for the Giants….BUT! He is too old, he has not played in over two years, and I believe that he is physically too challanged to play in the outfield. AND he would want TOO much money for too little production. Let the man go off into retirement. I think that Barry would be good as a DH in the American League where he would not have to take to the field.
How about making Barry a hitting coach for the Giants?
by SF Bay Area on Sep 17, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he wants to be a coach.
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by Natto on Sep 17, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct. He has said he doesn’t want that kind of pressure on him to be a hitting coach.
With malice towards the Dodgers
by heimy25 on Sep 17, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought Barry could be an incredible threat off the bench. Just watching him pick up a helmet in the dugout every time his team got 2 or more base runners could cause opposing managers to lose it and do crazy things.
So, $10 mill year for a pinch hitter? That’s far better than Renteria’s contract at any rate.
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by cybermaldonado on Sep 17, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes! I agree...
Watching opposing managers do crazy things like wetting themselves or setting themselves on fire…PRICELESS!
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by Timlincecum.com on Sep 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that was the idea behind the Dodgers getting Thome, since he can’t play the field either.
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by Goofus on Sep 18, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry should become a special assistant, like Willie and Willie, and help out during spring training regarding plate discipline and batting. Perhaps that will happen when he officially retires. He is not going to help this year or next and would be such a distraction that it would not be worth it.
by APGiantsFan on Sep 17, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He has a 10-year contract with the team from the day he officially retires.
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by groug on Sep 17, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Bonds really has an interest in that sort of thing.
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by Goofus on Sep 18, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he did, you know, sign the contract.
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by groug on Sep 18, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but i always thought it was just more deferred salary
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by Goofus on Sep 18, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the deferred salary and the personal services contract are two different things entirely. One freed up more payroll for contending baseball teams, and one is a job.
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by groug on Sep 18, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure the “personal service contract” is for showing up at spring training for a week or two and help out like JT or Will would.
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by SFGuy on Sep 19, 2009 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me if I'm wrong
But isn’t Page 2 supposed to be a “lighter side” of ESPN.com? Pretty much a parodic page?
I hope no one took that article seriously.
by Yoostey on Sep 17, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was Page 3, IIRC.
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by El Person on Sep 17, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Page 2 is pretty bad these days. TMQ is obsessed with politics, cheaters, and NASA’s budget, Jemele Hill is accused of being a racist regularly, and Simmon’s has his own page. Caple’s one of the only things I still enjoy on P2.
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by woomikee on Sep 18, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring Barry back and let him PH. The Dodgers found it appropriate to trade for Thome, when he’s only going to PH, and I’d say after last night I’d like a fearsome hitter. Can Bonds still play? Probably. He won’t jump into a game immediately, but the guy played for more than 20 years. I get the feeling those skills don’t just go away. Pay him $50,000, or whatever the minimum is, with incentives (a contract I imagine he’d take), and just let him PH.
There’s another really huge reason to bring him back. Barry’s a few hits away from 3,000 (though he wouldn’t get there this season only pinch hitting) and four RBI away from 2,000. Meaningless milestones yes, but wouldn’t it be nice to have those reached? Bonds is obviously one of the five best players ever, and I’d like to see those numbers, which are so close, achieved.
by quincy0191 on Sep 17, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still say first base
It’s pretty clear that Barry’s become a LF liability and the Giants need a better stick at first… especially a short-term good one. While I certainly was against moving him there while he was still playing, it seems to me that while he’s NOT playing it would be to his advantage to figure out if he could learn the position well enough. Whatever problem he had with his knees has had two years to rest now.
The fact that he isn’t trying strikes me as a pretty clear indication that he wants back into baseball on his own terms, which doesn’t bode well for a “Once divisive force comes back to his old team, re-invented as a cuddly teddy bear team guy” storyline.
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