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Post-Game Recap: Giants Lose Another Ugly One

It's amazing how rare it is for me to think, boy, Pablo Sandoval really could have helped this team a lot more today. It's not that he's immune from oh-fers and double plays -- far from it. But when he's having a bad game, usually he's surrounded by so much wretchedness that it's hard to notice. Not so today. Bad game, Pablo. But keep your head up, as it's a noticeable anomaly.

It's also amazing how rare it is for me to think, boy, I'm sure glad that Edgar Renteria and Randy Winn are in the lineup. I wish I could crawl inside Bochy's head -- I mean, there's room for me, but I'm talking metaphorically here -- and discern exactly when the last straw would be for both players. Would both hitters have to drop below .200 to be removed from the lineup?

Star-divide

If Winn were to hit .225 without any power, would that make it easier to remove him from the fifth spot in the order? I mean, .260 without any power obviously hints that Winn will bounce back any day now, so maybe thirty points of batting average would make all the difference.

And if Renteria were to hit .200, would that make it easier to notice that he's one of the worst everyday players in baseball? He is, of course. He's so bad that crazy solutions -- starting Eugenio Velez at second and sliding Freddy Sanchez over to short -- would be preferable. Renteria's biggest advantage (not being Brian Bocock or Omar Vizquel) is largely forgotten at this point. Start Kevin Frandsen or start Juan Uribe, but just admit that Renteria is one of the least talented players to have graced the Giants starting lineup in about a decade.

Terrible series, especially with the opportunities to catch up to the Dodgers.  When a bad team comes to San Francisco to face Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain, it's sad when they're only held in check by Barry Zito.

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grrrrrr

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

:-(

Bad series meant to be forgotten about. It’s Fodger time.

by gvp914 on Aug 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed, but it’s almost like the team overlooked the reds… all you got to do is look at Friday night

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

I said it in one of the posts today, we have used a TON of excuses this series (umpiring, underestimated, defense, offense, bullpen, management, etc.). Either way, it’s a forgettable series

by gvp914 on Aug 9, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you and i and alot of people here agree, excuses are so pathetic in sports, it’s almost in my way of thinking a losers mentality

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Almost anything can be excused away. It’s the things that are near unjustifiable that should be talked about (ie, the decision to take Affeldt out).

by gvp914 on Aug 9, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, like today? it was just a bad game, no clutch hitting and yada yada yada

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No managerial decisions could have helped after the first pitch.

Cain didn’t have precise control over his fastball in the early going and made too many fat pitches. The rallies were dependent upon Pablo and his Kung-Fu was not strong today.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Aurilia

has cemented himself on the roster with two, count ‘em, TWO pinch hits in this series. Say, didn’t he used to play shortstop?

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t like where you’re going with this

by gvp914 on Aug 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really tired of Renteria.

If the Giants make it to the playoffs… They better be starting Uribe over Renteria or something along those lines.

As for Winn… I think it’s likely he’ll get things together… But as of right now, I’d rather see someone else out there.
Come back to us Nasty Nate.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Aug 9, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YES! i remember thinking that when we played him and the cards in 2002

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 9, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, my bad, “they” i’ll correct myself in the future haha

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

um , no.

He was referring to what the FAILfish was saying.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 9, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Renteria reminds me so much of Edgardo Alfonzo. He always has great lifetime numbers against every pitcher, but all of that was accomplished with other teams, and for us he goes out there and goes 0 for 4. Let’s cut him some slack though. He supposedly is playing with an elbow injury, and there is nobody else on the roster that can play shortstop, with Uribe being hurt. That’s just stupidity, and it’s the fault of Sabean, not Renteria.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 9, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He sucked when he was healthy too.

by superk1ng on Aug 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know why I am always defending Edgardo Alfonzo.

But Alfonzo was actually useful, unlike Renteria. Based on what Alfonzo did (OPS+) in his two healthy Giants seasons, he was more effective than these 2009 Giants players:

Juan Uribe
Travis Ishikawa
Ryan Garko
Bengie Molina
Randy Winn
Edgar Renteria
Emmanuel Burriss
Rich Aurilia
Eli Whiteside
John Bowker
Matt Downs
Kevin Frandsen
Jesus Guzman

That list is in order of effectiveness. Sure it’s not saying much but if you drew a line through the middle of the team separating the “good” half from the “bad” have Alfonzo falls somewhere around the middle and Renteria is clearly much worse.

by RaymondStoneMedia.com on Aug 9, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God that’s depressing.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The grand slam Alfonzo hit against the Red Sox was awesome.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so was that playoff series against the Marlins. He hit over .500 and was pretty much kept them in all of those games. If they had won that series, he would have easily been the MVP.

embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria

by rxmeister on Aug 9, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

EDGARDO ALFONZO IS THE POSTER BOY FOR HOW BAD WEVE BEEN TIL NOW

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Aug 9, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angry Grant is Angry.

But seriously, I might literally prefer Omar at this point.

by ryanmiles on Aug 9, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would almost

prefer Bocock at this point. At least he’s never made 2 errors on 1 play!

Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us

by MadBum on Aug 9, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give him time, he’s young.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Omar might not have been able to hit, but even at his age, I’m sure he’d be just as good with the bat as Edgar, and better with the glove. Not to mention, he was a great guy.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might even say he was Dreamy.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it bad when i say when the niners play those losses hurt more?

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course not, 1/10 as many games

by aaroncallagher on Aug 9, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope they got the ugliness out.

if they play like this against LA, I am going to puke..both literally and figuratively.

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're being way too hard on Winn

All he has to do is homer in each of his next sixteen at-bats, and he’ll be hitting .291/.339/.525, which is almost acceptable for a corner outfielder!

Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)

by antinous on Aug 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The sad thing is,

we are being spoiled by a team of overachievers . Any other team, and Winn is a fourth OF’er, Renteria is not starting, Aurilia is not even close to seeing the bench, let alone the plate, and there would actually be a cleanup hitter.
I just am scared that the front office is being disillusioned as well. Scared I tell ya!

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are they overachieving at?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One person’s overachieving is another’s getting lucky, I guess.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if he were batting 8th instead of 5th, he wouldn’t be so bad. Unfortunately, we’ve got Rentaplayer clogging up that slot in the lineup.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just keep reminding myself:

At the beginning of the season you said you’d be happy if they played .500 ball.
But then after something like this happens I think:
STOP RAISING MY FREAKIN EXPECTATIONS ONLY TO THROW THEM OFF THE CLIFF OF PERPETUAL SUCK!!! NOW!!!

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude, i do that with all the teams i like, just like Fresno State last year, they got to #23 and then screw up, so yea i try not to raise my expectations because you just get messed up emotionally

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, honestly, did anyone expect the Giants to be doing as good as they are this late into the season?

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woa, what the heck happened with Victorino???

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he get run over by a cement truck maybe?

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

almost but not really, got ejected from center field

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Victorino

can suck it

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea dude, how the heck does someone get ejected from center field?? never seen that before

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow fuck him

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a complete ass.

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea! and he almost threw his catcher right into the ump, he was pissssed

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was IN centerfield and got ejected?

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah didn’t see this up here.

here is the link

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

I’m always stunned by how the commentators for east coast teams are such ridiculous homers. They sound like two sports radio callers sharing a beer.

Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)

by antinous on Aug 9, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kruk and Kuip usually sound like they have their own (kegs)!!!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously, I’m all for representing your team, but that’s pathetic.

by gvp914 on Aug 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“That is just RIDICULOUS! Come ON!!!!!! You’ve got to be KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!”

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s the wrong coast again

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Aug 9, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maligning Renteria's career is nothing short of insanity

He’s been crappy this year but to say a guy with 1100+ runs and 2100+ hits at age 34 (with 5 All-Star Teams, 2 Gold Gloves, and 3 Silver Bats) was less talented than Kevin Frandsen or Juan Uribe is CRAZY!

Those are more runs and hits than Will Clark at that age by the way.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True statement

But I would have rather spent 18 million somewhere else

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only $18 million worth of steroids could beef up this lineup.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so… resign barry for the next 2 months is what you’re saying?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...why not?

Not even to swing the bat, just to get a rally started with a leadoff walk would be helpful.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IS less talented

He is less talented right now.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is zero doubt in my mind that frandsen would be better than renteria right now

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt know if i could even do that…

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You show the monkey the banana...

…and when he reaches out to you for it, you hit him with the banana.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor monkey… :( haha

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

Just give him the banana. That’s messed up.

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn’t hit water if he jumped out of a boat woulda made the point better maybe but hey…

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I already regret my choice of word, but not the point. He calls people names a lot. Too much.

by FreshStart on Aug 9, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yawn... you missed the post when I said wrote was a bad Army habit.

I’ve been put down by the world’s bestest insult mongers, you sissy pukes are welcome to try.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or you can just have conversations without throwing around insults.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Virtually impossible.

I think I tell people to fuck off in my sleep. Speaking of which, y’all are making me drowsy.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, sometimes conversations/arguments get heated and a few “assholes” or “douchebags” get thrown around and that’s okay. But when they start coming out after, what, one or two exchanges, that detracts from the discussion. I’m pretty sure you don’t have some uncontrollable need to call people nerds and mooks and whatever else you’re throwing around as soon as someone disagrees with you, so I’m going to kindly ask you to refrain from doing so.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’LL SEE YOU AT THE GAME TOMORROW BEHIND THE BLEACHERS PUNK
BUT PLEASE NO LATER THAN 8 BECAUSE I HAVE TO MEET SOMEONE AT 9

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve known a lot of Army people with bad Army habits, and they don’t do what you are doing. But it’s easy to ignore. Just figured you could use a little encouragement. to, you know, reintegrate.

by FreshStart on Aug 9, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was discharged in 1991.

That was a more voluble less politically correct US Army than what’s floating around today. They hire contractors to clean their fucking toilets, now? Gawdamighty!!!!

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My brother was discharged from the Navy three years ago, and when he came back, he was profane and annoying. Not a thing had changed. He was still my baby brother.

So you acting like an asshat and blaming it on anything other than you isn’t gonna fly.

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you omitted a sentence or two.

Was your brother profane and annoying BEFORE the Navy? Is that what you’re trying to say?

by hokysmksbw on Aug 10, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is exactly what I said. Meaning he was a butthead before he went, but came back as the same pain in the ass kid I love.

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 11, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No i’m with hokysmksbw here. when i was stationed abroad in the 70s it meant soething, men were allowed to be men none of this namby pamby “don’t ask don’t tell” Obamanation shit, soiling on our constitutional rights of speech and all that. Same shit with these messageboards. I also think sports have gotten soft. There was a time with things were grittier, more crucial and teams fought and clawed their way through the standings. Now everyone is just a giant pussy.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Obama has completely changed the culture of the military in 6 months?

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Aug 9, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he gets credit for Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, which is quite the accomplishment considering it’s been the policy for like 15 years.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol. Don’t bring any logic into this argument, might get crazy

by m34josh on Aug 9, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sar-chasm?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 10, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really love

when people romanticize things from their younger days to this degree. It might have been better back then (you know, when you didn’t have kick-ass weaponry and state-of-the-art protection), but it wasn’t THAT much better. Jesus christ. Sports were boring as shit to watch back then. Compare it to today and it’s not even close.

Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Aug 9, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speak for yourself man! there was nothing like listening to the giants on a homemade transitor radio while charlie buzzed just over our trenches!!!

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was even better

listening to armed forces radio as I hit Omaha beach.

Those were the fucking days!

by FreshStart on Aug 9, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zingers were better when Dolly Madison made them.

And they used to put a baseball card in the package.

It’s not that things were better, they were HARDER and the people were less pampered and self-indulgent. I really am one of those people who had to get up before dawn and walk 5 miles to school (well, more like 3.5, but I also had to walk home the same distance in the baking Philippine sun).

by hokysmksbw on Aug 10, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the correct term would be "EFFECTIVE"

The talent portion was consistently proven years ago.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rich Aurilia was good once, too.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.300 BA & .518 SLG in 2006 at age 34

Over his career Rich was “good”, but Edgar was “great”, though no Cal Ripken.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're overstating it

Edgar has had a few great years but he’s not great now.

This is the only year he has ever played for my team. I don’t give a shit how good he was as a Cardinal or a Brave. What matters is how good he is as a Giant and he is fucking awful.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tsk-tsk. What you mooks would have said about Steve Carlton in '86.

If you don’t respect a player’s accomplishments for teams he played for other than your own, you don’t really understand or love the game of baseball.

Lemaster, Uribe, and Clayton had far worse years than the one Edgar is having.

You’re some kind of cheesy front-runner, huh?

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I respect what Edgar has done but it means very little to me with regards to his performance as a Giant this season. It’s great for him that he’s had a nice career and has had some really great years… but it’s a Hall of Very Good Career, not a Hall of Fame career and it doesn’t do anything to excuse his very poor play this year.

Yes, Edgar is not the worst shortstop in Giants history. But he’s a sub replacement level player making $9 million. That’s bad and it doesn’t mean a whole lot to the 2009 Giants that he was good two years ago for Atlanta.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the GM's fault not Edgar's.

If Edgar had aready been a Giant and got this contract through arbitration I could see an argument, but he took what the market offered and is legitimately doing the best he can at the moment.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have enough disdain for the both of them.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have only disdain for Sabean.

I’ve had it since the REED-MESA trade in ’98.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you going to have the same argument after every loss?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WULD U BE SAYING THIS IF THE GIANTS HAD WON??

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OR LIKE GARY CARTER IN 1990!!!!!111

AMIRITE?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

It’s not like the GMs have to sign these declining stars, and it’s not the players’ fault that people are still willing to throw wads of cash at them for potentially substandard performance. The players honestly believe they can still make a positive difference, that’s the athletic mindset.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is, I’m pretty sure you’re completely right – Renteria probably thinks he’s having a pretty solid year.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I’m sure Edgar is thinking that he’s having a bad year for a reasonably good team, but that he can still get his shit together down the stretch.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Edgar is thinking, “I love pie.”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edgar had 5 All-Star years and won GG&SS in year he wasn't an All-Star.

He also finished 2nd in Rookie-of-the-Year voting two years before becoming an All-Star for the first time.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there an award for most useless, most overpaid player? Because if there is, Edgar is DEFINITELY gonna win another award this year.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll see your Renteria and raise you one BRIAN GILES.

225 AB
.191 BA
.277 OBP
.271 SLG

2008 San Diego Padres $9,666,666
 seeing as how Giles hit .306 with a .398 OBP last year, I don’t imagine too much of a pay cut.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Giles went on the DL when he was injured :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, if Renteria went on the DL, then he might have to bring up Frandsen, and he certainly doesn’t want that to happen.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MATT DOWNS OR RYAN ROHLINGER

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda want to see Rohlinger come back up.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only for the fanshot

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Giles was a great player once!

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giles had about as good a career as a corner OF as Renteria has had as a SS. Neither is going to make the Hall of Fame but they were both excellent players for a few years.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thing is, there is no way he’s actually 34.

just a sambple of carbon-based wastage

by Gaahl on Aug 9, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colombians = Dominicans

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can’t walk off the anything south of California!

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So they’re saying Mr. F is ready to beat LA. The dude better bring it.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whole team better bring it against LA or it will be a sweep.

Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us

by MadBum on Aug 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol running the ads where they bleep out Dodgers and blur the Dodgers banner.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

$%$# the dodgers, it’s almost a swear word here at my house, was when i was growing up, dad would just flip i said the word dodgers

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

JUST DOOO IT BOWCHEE!
He’s so bad that crazy solutions — starting Eugenio Velez at second and sliding Freddy Sanchez over to short — would be preferable.

That’s what I’m talking about! Crazee!

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by achiappanza on Aug 9, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. It’s hard to imagine it could get much worse at short than Rentaplayer has been this year.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DODGERS SUCK!

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IAWwil

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Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+109

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want this to happen

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SUCK IT MARTIN!!!

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't said this in a long time...

2 days to be exact.

I need a drink.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Hamilton hasn’t said that since January.

Don’t hate me, I’m actually a huge fan of his

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 9, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't afford to lose this type of series

I feel like our season is going to end on the next road trip

by superk1ng on Aug 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Our season was supposed to end at the beginning of the year… nobody gave us a damn chance

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can’t afford to lose to bad teams because we need to be able to beat them
We can’t afford to lose to good teams because we need to prove we can beat them

And average teams? We should probably beat them too.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

look like both teams are bringing suckage to this meeting

by justhangin on Aug 9, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I said it the other day and I’ll say it again: Someone needs to force Renteria to have the surgery on his elbow now so we can rid ourselves of him for the remainder of this season. Juan Uribe or Kevin Frandsen could easily do what Renteria is doing currently.

by deuce deuce on Aug 9, 2009 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, i appreciate what he’s doing by gutting it out for his team, but sooner or later he’s gotta get his elbow fixed, and yea Frandsen, or Uribe can definitely take his place no doubt

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone hear Kuip in the postgame on CSN?

After they were supposed to go to commercial:

“So Damon Bruce, Go f*** yourself!”

by www.westcoastbias.com on Aug 9, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha no way. Did he really?

by deuce deuce on Aug 9, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait what?

why?

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by Viliphied on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was because Bruce was practically guaranteeing a sweep

by www.westcoastbias.com on Aug 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone has to say it.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I aint, since i like the guy

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oy oy oy?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, like i’ve said before, i guess i’m in the minority with actually liking Bruce and Urban, so whatever

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m an urban fan too; bruce, not so much

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

urban’s okay, bruce can diaf

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, he’s been on KNBR for what 4 years? so i hope he doesnt go anywhere

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've caught Damon Bruce ONCE...for maybe ten minutes.

He’s loud , boorish , and opinionated (wow , and I don’t like him?)…and those sound effects are a bad AM drivetime popDJ cliche.
All that…and then he informs me they’d traded for “Jonathan Sanchez”.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 9, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, i think that’s why i like him, he’s opinionated, loud, and those drops are fine in my opinion, but i just never take him seriously unless it’s an important topic, and i agree with him, how can he get excited about the giants over the past 4 years? What’s been so amazing about this team? This is the best we’ve played over that time, so i’m defending him

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DBruce definitely reads MCC btw because he’s namedropped it on his show so hi DB! pound it pound it pound it

No one is listening to his show for informative discussion. It’s like listening to AM radio political talk shows or somethingwhen its 3am and you’re driving across Nebraska… all the crackpots/drunks call in the host eggs them on with more crackpottery.

t’is hella boring most of the time though.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, guess i think differently, gets interesting discussions up, and like i said is very opinionated alot of which i agree with, some i dont, but that’s the point i guess of radio to get people with different opinions to call in and tell them what’s up, so yea i disagree

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thing is, to me, just sounds like his “opinions” are more for the sake of talking and filling up the time slot and getting people to call in and talk equal parts buffonry. just seems like a put on to me more than anything.

i feel the same way when radnich spends 3-4 hours or whatever his show is just rambling about nonsense and going almost nowhere with any one topic and everyone gets riled up over something he said. even he probably forgot what he said.

in the words of The Jam: that’s entertainment.

i’ve never thought this much about radnich nor bruce ever.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what radio is sir, it’s entertainment, if they talked for 3 or 4 hours straight about how good the giants are, it’d get boring very fast. I like Radnich, but not all the time where yea he gets wayyyyyy out there but also it gets on my nerves when continues to cut off the guy that’s calling, and it happens more with Gary than it does any other personality on radio, but whatever it’s his show so it’s cool

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I’ve been listening to SportsPhone 680/68 since the days of Ken Dito (anyone remember that guy?). I think of all the different people I’ve ever heard who regularly hosted shows on THE Sports Leader, the only one I have been largely unable to listen to has been Damon Bruce. I don’t mind schtick (I mean, even Ferral didn’t bother me that much). “Loud” and “opinionated”, I have no problem with. “Ignorant” and “ill-informed”, while pretending to be the opposite is what sends me over the edge with Bruce. I’m usually turning off the radio within 10 minutes.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOU MEAN YOURE NOT A FAN OF STEPHEN A SMITH

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, you are older than me, i’ve only listened to it for the past 10 years or so, and yea i can see where you and other people here have a problem with that, and with me i don’t really care too much where he rips the giants where they’re due, like last year it was a consistent ripping of the team and years before was the same thing. I absolutely don’t agree with everything he says, but i dont rip him for being wrong, i just passively say whatever and move on.

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damon Bruce comes across as ignorant when he tells women to let their men watch football and for them to stay in the kitchen (implying to cook and clean). One survey said at least 33% of football fans are women.

by SFGuy on Aug 9, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm…. i say that too, haha as a joke, my buddies out at school always say it’s a joke to have women do sideline reporting at a football game… but it’s all in good fun since we’re never serious we’re joking around, and honestly, like i said, I DONT TAKE DAMON SERIOUSLY EVER, because taking people seriously is something i can’t do and has screwed me up in the past

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Effective use of tired old dinosaur sexist memes: There are no girls on the internet.

Ineffective use of tired old dinosaur sexist memes: GIT IN THE KITCHEN MAKE ME A PIE AND LEAVE TEH SPORTS TO TEH MENNS

I simply don’t think Mr. Bruce is smart enough to be satirical about the subject. A rather sore one for me, considering I deal with sexism a lot in my field.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that, although, like i said, i’m not nor am i ever so ignorant to point one thing out about someone and say oh you’re ignorant because of this, i dont know how the guy is outside of radio. I do not act like that around anybody, my girlfriend? If i said that she would hardly care at all. But quite frankly, i’ll never pick one sentence or something that anyone says, such as “Oh i hate Barack Obama because he’s black” i wouldn’t hate the guy at all, because that’s how he feels, that’s one aspect of his personality that you can get around

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have no idea what i was getting at toward the end of my comment… oh brother

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should call D Bruce and ask him why he hates Barack Obama for being black and then post his answer here.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, so am I to understand you will not be making me a pie?

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could share pie.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m intrigued.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll share pie if you subscribe to my newsletter

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By “newsletter” you mean “sfdugout.com,” don’t you?

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. And MiLB.com too I guess.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/searches endlessly for “Subscribe” button on MiLB.com

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I have no problem whatsoever with him ripping the Giants. It’s just that his idea of “solutions” seem to almost always underscore his lack of what I would consider to be sound understanding, both of the Giants and of baseball in general.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, i see your point, yea he goes over the top and it’s almost like you say to yourself “what the fuck” but like for instance the Michael Vick thing, i totally agreed with him and that is a good debate right there. But yea he does throw out some bogus ideas but it does get people to call

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He actually suggested the Giants trading Zach Wheeler for a bat. I’m not joking.

That tells you everything you need to know about him.

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

look, i’m not trying to change anyones opinions about the guy, or at least trying not to, and isn’t that a little short sighted? And insnt this almost the same argument for Alderson? we traded him for a bat, and we know for sure Wheelers gonna pan out right? All i’m saying is, yea that isn’t too smart of a trade idea, but i’m still not holding that against him

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trading Alderson for a hitter was one thing. A pitcher, with some proof that he could succeed in the game, being dealt after the calendar year had passed after he was drafted. That’s a trade that works logistically.

Trading Wheeler for a hitter is retarded because, A) he hasn’t thrown a pitch in pro baseball, to anyone above the age of 18-19, and to anyone who hasn’t swung a metal bat against him; 2) he’s not even signed yet, and negotiating the rights to an unsigned draft pick is like me telling Daniel Sunjata to wait there and order me a beer. It’s not happening. And three, you can’t trade a player for a full calendar year after he’s been drafted. So, if this insane scenario he presents is in fact true, it can’t even happen until mid-2010.

So he’s abjectly stupid, which I can’t abide by either. If he’s being satirical, he’s doing a piss poor job at it because none of his facts are correct. None of it is amusing or edgy. It’s just some moron ranting on the radio about misguided garbage he makes up on the toilet.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you give him a lot of credit. I just figure he steals his schtik from miscellaneous blog posts, and web site blitherers.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I shouldn’t bag on the toilet epiphanies. There’s a whole lotta stupid out there to be shared.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well there you go, he doesn’t know about that sort of thing, or he might and was being sarcastic and not really being serious at all, and i guess it’s everyones opinion whether it was piss poor or not you know? i mean like i said the other day i like Brian Wilson and yea sometimes he can be over the top on how he acts but some people just take that differently, but thanks for the info on Wheeler, i didn’t know he had to be on the roster a full year before a trade could even ensue

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As jctgamer said, it’s pretty bad to pay someone money to say blatantly incorrect things. I’ve had to scratch and claw to get my foot in the door of sports media, and this guy has a cherry gig spewing senseless blatherings over 50000 watts?

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn’t his first gig either, he’s been on ESPN, Columbus, but all the network wants is people calling into the show and liking it, YOU are listening to it, and that’s all they want, they don’t care if one dislikes it or not you know? it’s just like with Gary, how everyone dislikes him, but he’s been on for 20 years so that says something

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what I’m trying to say is

1. Wheeler is not signed.
2. A player cannot be traded until 1 year after he signs his professional contract.
3. Player to be named later only extends out 90 days.

How does a KNBR talk show host on the GIANTS FLAGSHIP station not know this?

And if he doesn’t know such simple facts like that, then what else does he not know?

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough...

I mean, I’d rather they hadn’t fired Larry Krueger. But to each his own I guess. I’m sure there were tons of people who were happy when Krueger got canned.

It’s kind of a bummer for me, because I live in Southern California, limiting me for the most part to about an hour of Murph and Mac in the morning, and all the Damon Bruce I can stand.

But hey, I’m glad you like him. That’s cool.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, yea great point about Krueger, people took offense to what he said and yea got canned.

Are you talking about listening in the car? because KNBR online obviously would be cool, but yea favorite show is Fitz and Brooks, but can’t really get that down south.

Ha, i wasn’t trying to be hostile on anyone here, just proving my point, so my bad about it.

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, no hostility. It’s a discussion with people coming down on different sides. I hate Bruce a lot, personally, so I get angry when I discuss why I hate him. I feel no ill will towards you for liking him or for saying that you do like him.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, cool, it’s just i’ve sent him a few emails about something very important to me and he’s replied very very very kindly and he’s just awesome for that, he meant alot to me and someone else in my family and it was just very special that’s why i defend him

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll always remember Krueger staying on air, past his allotted time… ummm one night in like oooh 2002… after the Giants EPICALLY FAILED!!!!!!

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, just listening to an actual radio—be it in a car or at home. I’m just too busy most of the time to listen to anything online when I’m at work. And conversation too easily veers into NSFW anyway. There have been a few times when I’ve listened to a game online at the office.

I appreciate your comments and the spirit in which they’ve been delivered. So yeah, I’d be happy if KNBR would show Bruce the door. I mean, look, I get that this ain’t NPR. I don’t want NPR. But at least a modicum of understanding and insight would be welcome.

But again, maybe that’s just how Bruce strikes me.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 10, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea i see what you mean, i’m just gonna jump to your last point, and it’s true, like everyone has their own way of looking at Bruce, and i think of him differently than people here do, and yea it’s just the way he strikes people, but yea dude not sure if i would like Flemming doing Giants talk everynight, it can get annoying from someone broadcasting for the Giants talking about the team, but more importantly sometimes i like it when it’s not just about baseball, but yea dude good talkin to ya

by PiKAgiant on Aug 10, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://player.cumulusstreaming.com/SLPLayer.aspx?KNBR-AM

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 10, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got nothing against Urban

He’s cool, although he’s a bit too supportive of Zito.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’d do that for your friend though, so i dont blame him

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get that, but in as a professional, you shouldn’t be too biased about stuff like that.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you signed a 126 million dollar contract and started sucking as a mod, I’d still defend you because you are a friend!

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Natto’s stats show he’s a better mod after the all star break.

BEAT LA

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I signed a 126 million dollar contract, I’d be long gone, suckers!

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can i have just a couple million before you go?

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get back in the den where you belong , and draw me a pie.

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by victor frankenstein on Aug 10, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also love that you censored yourself.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whaaaaat?

Did he really say that?

by superk1ng on Aug 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

superk1ng go f*** y*******

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone has the game on their DVR, it’s at approximately 2:58 into the broadcast

by www.westcoastbias.com on Aug 9, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A+

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Damon Bruce at first because he seemed funny, but his ignorance when it comes to baseball is so astronomical that I can’t stand to listen to him anymore. The rest of the KNBR lineup is beyond solid, though

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 9, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me, i dont really care too much if he’s ignorant on baseball, i like him and his show since it’s good radio and he gets people to call in and it’s entertainment, if he just said last year “oh yea the giants are awesome, they’re realllly good” not sure if i’d like it too much at all, but overall i like him

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still need to call back to Ralph and Tom, maybe I’ll do it tomorrow. They told me to call back so they can both learn something about sabermetrics and make fun of me at the same time. They had to cut me off last time because of a scheduled interview.

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't take away the sting from the loss

and this was bogus but this was hilarious to see rectum face lose his cool

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL @ Announcers treating umpire like crap. They seriously think the umpire was looking for Victorino to do that because he knew he blew the call?

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s pretty lame of the umpire to toss someone from way out in centerfield…. But then again, since it was to Victorino, I could care less.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True that, from Centerfield? haha i’ve never heard of any of that goin on

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He deserved it.

I can’t recall ever seeing position players showing up an umpire after a strike call like that. It’s a very bad precedent. Also, the fact that the Phillies have really shown a lack of class this season – the ring swelled their heads methinks- probably had something to do with it.

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by cybermaldonado on Aug 9, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy that was some seriously unbiased reporting by those announcers…

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“The heat is getting to him” LOL

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was enjoyable to watch.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes , thanks for bringing the link.

Wow , Victorino really must dislike baseball even more than Dunn if he’s trying to get thrown out for however long that suspension would be…

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Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 9, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reading his lips...

It looked like he was saying, “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM??”

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Bonds=groundbreaking

f**k, man, there's a beverage here!

by seesdifferent on Aug 10, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Victorino??

MORE LIKE “DEFEAT YES”!!

MIRITE??

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

And yeah , that was a bad ass car but I’m a slave to MPG.

NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?

by victor frankenstein on Aug 10, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: football in 10 minutes! finally!

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t watched anything but MLB network since Jan 1st. What is this football you speak of?

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a dude with a oddly shaped ball and pads and stuff, it’s OK at best

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta be a joke about a dude with an oddly shaped ball in here somewhere

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing, but I’m just too tired to go there.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I love the niners, football doesn’t hold a candle to baseball. Soccer, on the other hand, is right up there…

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 9, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, to me Giants, Niners, Warriors are at the same level for me with the Sharks comin up, not one sport i value more than the other, i’m just getting into soccer too though

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love football but exhibition games blow. Who wants to watch that? The whole pre season is just about not getting your good players hurt, and the first exhibition game you’re lucky if the starters are in there for more than one series.

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by rxmeister on Aug 9, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s hard to get into a team that only plays once a week for four months

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, see what you mean, but every game is so crucial from open to close, and that’s why i love it, baseball can get annoying if your a nationals fan or pirates fan, and preseason football effing blows! It’s too bad they just don’t start the season or add more to it, but it’s like a taste of football finally

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i appreciate the intensity of football, but baseball lets you figure out every little strength, weakness, and quirk that every player on the team has. I watch every niners game, and the only guys I feel like I know are hill, smith, gore, willis, and clements

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Football was easier to follow when there weren’t 50 trillion teams.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are 2 more NFL teams than MLB teams.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 is 2 much!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I really worry about in baseball, is the NL West.
And um…I remember when the Seahawks were an expansion team, that was plenny o’ teams right then.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB divisions are more organized than NFL divisions.

North, South, East, and West divisions? A Texas team in an East division? A team from Missouri in a West division? Come on now. Baseball got this right.

by RaymondStoneMedia.com on Aug 9, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh, when you have one division with 6 teams and another division with 4 teams, you’re not perfect

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they didn’t want to break up already established “rivalries”

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

used to be a rivalry with the Rams but now in St. Louis? not so much. Don’t care too much about the divisions, why’s that matter?

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realized that.

Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, and Giants are have great rivalries against each other. But the point of the realignment was for the divisions to make geographic sense lol.

by RaymondStoneMedia.com on Aug 9, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

basically, to quote someone else, “football is like watching a movie, baseball is like reading a novel”

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess you can then say i’m biased since i played football in high school, got cut from baseball

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which school? (if you don’t mind me asking)

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, Miami university Ohio, if anyone watched the College hockey frozen four this year we lost to Boston University with a minute left, i cant tell you how pissed i was, would have been our first and only championship ever in any sport at Miami

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, good point, i appreciate football since there’s alot going on, rather baseball you wait through innings and that’s why i like hockey, or basketball, don’t have to deal with the wait through innings, but yea

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do love the sharks just as much as the giants though; i guess because there are 82 games in an NHL season vs. 16 in the nfl. plus i live 10 mins from the SJ arena

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you go to many games there or what? only been to one shark game and plenty of College hockey games though

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i only went to 2 last year, but normally i get to about 5 per season, plus one or two playoff games (the sharks have never given me much of an opportunity to go to more)

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s awesome though, the one game i went to was against Edmonton in the playoffs, game 5 or 6 i believe whenever they played them and lost by 3 goals

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sharks have been coming up since they started almost – always pretty good – just always choke in the post-season

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don’t even want to think about all those post-seasons

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pre-season football, just can’t do it.

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by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don’t care.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 9, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not on the edge of my seat here, but for the niners it means something with the QB situation there, i just finally get to watch another sport other than baseball for a night

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m excited for the Niners’ first preseason game, but only because I want to see the new uniforms in action

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by Useful_Idiot on Aug 9, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA! oh man what a play

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno. This whole Crabtree incident has kinda made me lose my excitement about football. Turns down $20 million and threatens to hold out all season even though he’s neven even caught one fucking pass? The hell with football players.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They’re making the rookie salary minimum for next season so this wont happen again, this happens in all of sports dude, not just football, basketball, and in the MLB draft it’s bullshit with the nationals not being able to sign Strasberg whatever his name is, it’s everywhere

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, it’s just easier to ignore most of the time in other sports because people don’t make threats before they’ve even played very often. Obviously I watch sports for entertainment, so I don’t concern myself much with the whole “Oh my God, this guy is making $__________!!!!” aspect of it, but when rookies start doing this kind of crap it just really burns my britches for some reason.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea it makes them look ignorant and just selfish, but this came from a COUSIN, obviously he’s saying this because he wants a little somethin somethin on the side with the contract coming to Crabtree, the media has screwed up everything with this situation, they’re making it seem like he’s a jerkoff when in my mind he hasn’t done anything wrong, it’s not HIM it’s his cousin and agent

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was upset with his cousin’s comment, he would have come out HIMSELF and publicly denied them.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, i dont know dude, he’s relying wayyyyy too much on his agent here

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, good to see we’ve got some truly loyal niners fans in the house. I WAS stoked when they drafted Crabtree, but man, I’ve been getting more and more peeved with every passing day he hasn’t signed. And then I see a picture of his smug looking face. He just LOOKS like the type of guy that would run you off the road in a 15 mph zone because he knows the road belongs to HIM and his pimped out hummer. I don’t know. I just HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see where you’re at, question is, would still feel the same way if he does well if/when he signs?

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not at all. It would be like when Deion Sanders was on the 49ers. I hated him with a passion too great for words when he was on the Falcons, but I loved the hell out of him as a Niner. If the kid signs and helps the team, all will be forgiven, it’s just going to take a much better performance from him for me to become a big fan of his than it would have before all of this stuff. Either way, don’t expect me to be buying one of his jerseys any time soon…

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, i feel ya man, there’s no way i’m buying a dude’s jersey who’s not even on the team yet, expect a Willis or Gore jersey, by the way on a side note, i’ll be rooting for both QBs on friday and i dont care who comes out the winner, i just would like to win some football games please. By the way Deion was the man when he was here, and he did help the team a ton! Then he went to the cowgirls and yea i didn’t like him too much when he was there, that’s the thing about fans!

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can’t hold out for too much longer. And if he sits out the season he’s more dumber than I thought. I mean seriously, if you sit out for a season do you really think you’re going to be taken HIGHER in the next draft?!?!?! Too many blows to the head?

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, he’s probably not going to hold out much longer, and yea he wont get much money if he wants to be in the draft next year, it’s his loss not the niners

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting how everyone's stressed about Crabtree

And nobody seems remotely stressed about Zack Wheeler. And yet, Wheeler really should be in Arizona right now, starting his professional career.
On the other hand, if i had that kind of salary leverage with my bosses, I’d hold out too.

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, MLB players nobody cares about after they’re drafted as much as NFL since they make an immediate impact, MLB? not really, but yea, his point is, what if he gets hurt? he wants all the money he can get now before he gets injured or flat out sucks and doesnt get any money in the future

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, sure. So would I, so would you.

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They offered him the standard amount that 10th overall picks get. Who the fuck spits on $20 million dollars?

Eh, it’s a Giants forum, so I’ll shut my trap about this. I could go on bitching for hours if you got me going.

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That game with Texas was epic but kinda hard for me to get my nuts in a twist over a WR from the red raiders anyways. I bet the kid is dumber than a bag of dogshit.

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, there’s another place to talk about this, i’ll shut it too, but i hate how the media has screwed this whole thing up, how do we know what really happened on the inside

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Wheeler doesn’t sign, the Giants get a comparable pick in the 2010 draft. No higher than 6th overall, plus their regular first round pick. If Crabtree doesn’t sign, the 49ers have absolutely no recourse and get nothing.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Wheeler, I don’t really think its a huge deal because I would guess he most likely finished his high school career sometime in May. Not a terrible idea to give a young arm a few months off before starting his pro career. There are also plenty of leagues he can go play in almost year round if the Giants choose so

With Crabtree, the guy hasn’t seen game action in 7+ months. If he really is serious about sitting out for another 12, that puts him at 19 months out. Thats a lot of rust to shake off while trying to prepare to go up against guys that are better than anything you have ever seen before. Would be real stupid to give up all that time when he likely will be set for life no matter what deal he gets, as long as he doesn’t blow it all on attorneys, hookers, and blow.

by m34josh on Aug 9, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, and re: the first point, it seems a lot of high round picks don’t start their pro careers until the following season. And that seems to be fine. It happened with Bumgarner, Kieschnick, etc. I’m really not concerned about Wheeler not signing. It’s gonna happen.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you about the first point, it will happen eventually, they’ll sign him, and no one really has made a big deal about it in the press here in the bay area, so they’ll get it done.

With Crabtree, he has to get to camp ASAP because of those 7 months off, and there’s no way the dude risks not signing and waiting until the next draft, it’s dumb economically since he wont get as much money as he would now and he’d be the next Mike Williams

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its definitely dumb, but there seems to be a lot of that in pro sports. He isn’t even a pro yet so his ego has the potential to make him epically dumb.

At this point he has likely lost so much respect from his future teammates, and is already so far behind on learning the playbook and timing, he should just take the money and run (literally!)

by m34josh on Aug 9, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yea, vernon was quoted as saying he should get his ass in camp and learn something… that coming from the highest paid tight end… but i’m glad they’re going to come in with a cap for rookies where they can’t do this kinda thing, just look at Stafford, he’s getting paid more than Brady and Manning, just ridiculous

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Renteria is hurt, remember

Through May, he was a pretty effective player, league average. He’s been playing hurt. The obvious call is to disable him and make Frandsen the everyday SS, but you know how much Bochy love that ‘grizzled vet playing through pain’ trope. Renteria’s not a bad player; he’s Butch Hobson. Good player, hurting the team right now by playing when he shouldn’t.

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope he’s hurt because I thought there was no way he’d be as bad as he was last year, let alone quite a bit worse.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, which obviously raises the question, why’d we sign the guy if he’s this injury prone. I mean, that was the reason we didn’t make a run at Furcal. But Rent’s been an effective player when healthy

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just makes me more pissed about Friday’s game.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ditto

3.5/4.5 GB was there for the taking.

by superk1ng on Aug 9, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just be thankful that the Giants are more effective as a wild card than as a division winner.

by RaymondStoneMedia.com on Aug 9, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just glad we're not the Red Sox

They just got exposed, against the Evil Empire, old and slow and offensively offensive. Meanwhile, even after this Red’s debacle, we’re still in a process of team self-discovery. We’re still surprising.

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, if we were the Red Sox, we’d be half of Baseball Tonight’s coverage every night…

by ololo3 on Aug 9, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was watching baseball tonight before friday's Giants game

I changed it to CSN about 10 minutes early. Right about the time they started showing the Red Sox/Yankees highlights for the second time in the program…

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hero

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE REAL DEAL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BEARD IS NOT WEIRD

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas Neal really ought to grow a beard

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

another Giant having a good day

Buster Posey: 2-3, triple. OPS up to .866!

by superk1ng on Aug 9, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YESSSSSS

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be at the game tomorrow

which means I won’t be able to post Dirty pictures. Hopefully someone will do it though. I’d be glad to make them and post them somewhere for your convenience though.

With malice towards the Dodgers

by heimy25 on Aug 9, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just saw a commercial

There’s going to be a movie coming out soon called “Gamer.” Should make for some good photoshopping on this site.

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gamer plot

GAMER is a high-concept action thriller set in a near future when gaming and entertainment have evolved into a terrifying new hybrid. Humans control other humans in mass-scale, multi-player online games: people play people…for keeps.

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 6:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing

That’s also the idea behind my new religion!

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

where do I sign up?

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And see, I just went up a level!

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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 9, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

Skinny cooks?
I don't trust em.

by LargeFarva on Aug 9, 2009 6:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That game sucked so hard

I threw the sign away upon exit. Fucking worthless.

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Calm down, people, it's only August 09.

The 1987 Giants was 57-55 and the 1997 team was 65-52 at this point and the final record for each season was 90-72.

Maybe they’ll go to the playoffs, maybe they won’t.
It’s too early to freak out either way.

by hokysmksbw on Aug 9, 2009 7:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is freaking out? Just seems like the normal reaction after any loss.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems pretty legit to be upset after your team loses 2 of 3 to a sub-.500 team with your two best pitchers going in the series.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Especially since the schedule gets so tough so quickly.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE END IS NEAR WOE IS ME

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Lions fan it was the end even before the season started last year

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait… excuse me for my dumbassness… i’m a niner fan but second favorite team are the niners… ok that makes sense

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another reason why I hate Sports Radio… I’m streaming KNBR at work, and this idiot from the V Show on ESPN (whatever his stupid name is) says “I can now safely call that the Dodgers will win the Western Division”. It’s THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST.

by zuma420 on Aug 9, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, gimmie a freaking break, they’re shortsighted, how can anyone count out the giants just yet

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Wo is me” is also true if you’re speaking Mandarin Chinese.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ProTip: If you want rational, cogent thought, wait for something that is not a game day thread. Game Day threads [and post game threads] are full of rage-ahol, ranting, screaming and freaking out.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

right on, bro

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Aug 9, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 9, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this team just let the reds have their way with them

by big beaner on Aug 9, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well that was disappointing

But an anomoly

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Before the game on Sundays

The Giants have 2 players sign autographs for kids. Today was the fastest signing ever. Randy Winn did in like 10 minutes while the other side of the ball park, the player still did that for 15 more minutes. It really looked like Winn didn’t want to do that or be there. I heard Winn isn’t exactly the nicest person on the team. He keeps his head down walking in the tunnel area and refuses to say hello if someone says hello to him (unlike Cain, who says if someone says hello, he will acknowledge that person back). Take that and the fact that Winn was basically the only player not at Fan Fest tells me he isn’t that nice (not mean but not nice).

by SFGuy on Aug 9, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not classy

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn’t have thought that about winn with the way kruk and kuip lavish praise on him

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 9, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he gets along with Lisa Stevens OK. Better than Shane Snow seems to, anyway.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 9, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 9, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looked out of it today. He didn’t seem interested in the game, kept staring into the stands along the RF line. Both before and after the Reds scoring runs.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Aug 9, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did just have a death in the family. I’ve no idea how close he was to his FIL? Sometimes things like that [death, birth of a child etc] can really mess with people.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, i can agree with that, happened to me just last year, i’m not even close to the same person i was before it, and it really does change who you are and gets you down :(

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgot about that. He definitely focused when a ball came to him, but I could tell his mind wasn’t completely on the game. It’s weird what you observe away from the cameras.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This seems like a good way to judge someone.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winn ignores people when people say hello to him at the ball park, just keeping his head down. Just grunts or something. Don’t ignore people.

by SFGuy on Aug 9, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he's antisocial

maybe he just doesn’t like to talk to people he doesn’t know. Is that a problem?

by superk1ng on Aug 10, 2009 4:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe he just doesn’t need any more friends or care what strangers think about him or his personality?

Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 10, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is at the damn ball park where he sees the same people EVERY DAY.

by SFGuy on Aug 10, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he is just a quiet dude. I met him at a warriors game once and he was nice enough and smiled. Didn’t seem like he wanted to sit there and talk baseball but he definitely was friendly for the brief few minutes I had the chance

by m34josh on Aug 9, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

his father-in-law died recently, and supposedly he has not taken it well

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 10, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has been happening BEFORE the death.

by SFGuy on Aug 10, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got back from watching that wretchedness. Renteria looks WAAYYY worse in person. When a hitter begins throwing the bat at the ball, I would say he sucks. And people at the park were getting upset with all the first pitch swinging BS. Pablo did it twice, I think, once fouling it, and the other killing the 8th inning rally. But Garko really killed any momentum left in the ninth. Ugh.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Aug 9, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beat L.A.! Pictures, Images and Photos

You people wit' the cheese. It never ends.

by NuschlerFace on Aug 9, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

+109,000,000

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IAWTC

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BEAT LA!

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They better. I don’t want to hear all those douchey Dodgers fans that will show up this week.

by SFGuy on Aug 9, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same goes for my co-workers. I want it to be where they want to stay away from me. If LA wins, they will be lined up at my desk come 7AM

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right

by Giant among Angels on Aug 9, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ditto

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 9, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well we better get ready for all of them showing up at the park tomorrow, got to bring the noise… by the way, there was a story in the chronicle for tomorrows paper that talks about how some dodger fan pissed on the willie mays statue? i did not know that

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't know if anyone pee'd

but after the dodgers clinched the playoffs at AT&T…in 2006? i think….a bunch of their fans mobbed willie and did all sorts of disrespectful stuff..classless dodger scum…..

by kezargiants on Aug 10, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baggs says Bochy said that Nate was due off the DL on Tuesday. So that mean Uribe probably goes on the DL??

by SFGuy on Aug 9, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, i think we’d assume that, who else is there to send down? Velez is on fire, Aurilia isn’t going anywhere, so yea Uribe probably goes on 15 day DL

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t believe I’m wishing that Uribe didn’t have to go on the DL because I want him in the lineup.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we’re agreeing that Edgar isn’t going anywhere unless he’s realllly hurt right?

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe if he loses an arm.

by Natto on Aug 9, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not a craphole void in the lineup and in the field.

Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what the box score said

This game wasnt enjoyable

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 9, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

try being there and witnessing both double plays by Pablo, and can’t curse out loud because I’m sitting in front of the entire Junior Giants section……….

Also it was really bad cause the entire section kept asking me what the sign meant.

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friday night was much much much worse

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so glad i was playing magic friday night

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poll on ESPN.com

If current division leads hold, which team will win the NL Wild Card?

Giants lead with 40% of the vote, Cubs at 30%, Rockies at 14%, Braves at 9% and Marlins at 8%. Giants leading in 21 states (62% of CA), Cubs at 15 states (56% of IL), Braves at 3 states (60% of GA), Rockies at 2 states (78% of CO) and Marlins with one state (FL at 29%).

by SFGuy on Aug 9, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting. How in the world is the rest of the country seeing Giants scores? They must be watching the bottom line of espn while the Yankees and Red Sox highlights are on for the 300th time

by m34josh on Aug 9, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

let’s see, all these teams I don’t really know about… Hey KUNG FU PANDA sounds cool. I’m voting for THAT team.

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The majority of baseball fans really have no idea what is going on in baseball

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 9, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Around the league I mean

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 9, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither does most of the hosts on KNBR.

by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea…… exactly…..

by PiKAgiant on Aug 9, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

And neither do I. I only know what Kruk and Kuip tell me about the other team. Oh, and what Mets fans tell me about their crappy team here in NY. They are very funny funs, let me tell you.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 10, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Hmm….I wonder if any of the teams have a no hitter this year? Those are pretty cool.”

BEAT LA

by goGSW24 on Aug 9, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad but true. of course they are assuming that the northeast has the only legitimate fan base in the world.

Timmy is my Man-crush

by Fan from Sac on Aug 10, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rent and Uribe to the DL

and maybe Rowand too, if this leg strain is at all serious. They are not good enough to play hurt and contribute wins to the team. And having a limited bench isn’y helping either. If an old vet is hurt his place is on the DL, not the active roster. Call up Rohlinger, Frandsen and Nate.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.

by kennv on Aug 10, 2009 6:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

About Randy Winn...

I’ve always liked him, but never been a fan… if that makes sense. One thing I don’t get is how much he’s striking out this year. I don’t have the numbers in front of me (I’m sure you guys do) but I feel like after watching so many of his at bats this year he must have twice as many AB/K. And he’s just swinging through shit. If I were the manager, I’d be wondering if he needed Ricky Vaughan treatment. Buy the dude some near-sighted glasses. Then I would just start yelling “God damnit, Dorn. What’s with this OLE shit?” in a really raspy voice and everyone would think I’d lost it.

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 10, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AB/K

Last year he had 6.8 at bats for every strike out. This year… 5.64… so yea. Not really that good

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 10, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Career Avg

His Overall Career Average to date is 6.14. His career avg before this year is 6.19. You can see, he really is striking out too much! Especially for someone that hasn’t hit a HR since the paleozoic era

Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you

by milesntrane on Aug 10, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How long before Velez Wonderful Outfield Adventures become

a pain in the ass instead of funny?

f**k, man, there's a beverage here!

by seesdifferent on Aug 10, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Around the end of his hot streak, whenever that is.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Aug 10, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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