minor lines, 8/7/09
Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a) Clay Timpner homered and doubled among his three hits; (b) Buster Posey also homered while reaching base twice; (c) Kevin Frandsen had three hits; (d) Jackson Williams had a couple XBH; (e) Tyler Graham had a HR among his two hits; and (f) Kyle Nicholson allowed 2 ER in 6.0 IP. Notable: Madison Bumgarner pitched but not long enough to have a quality start.
AAA: Fresno defeated New Orleans 6-5
Fresno: CF Clay Timpner: 3 for 5, HR, 2B
Fresno: SS Kevin Frandsen: 3 for 5
Fresno: RF Nate Schierholtz: 1 for 4, 2B
Fresno: C Buster Posey: 1 for 3, HR, BB, SO
New Orleans: RF Brett Carroll: 3 for 5
Fresno: RHP Kevin Pucetas: 5.2 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 K
New Orleans: RHP Clay Hensley: 6.1 IP, 9 H, 3 R, ER, 1 BB, 6 K
Timpner had another big game, including his 5th HR to lead off the bottom of the 1st inning and his 14th double. Batting first and second in the Grizzlies' lineup, both Timpner and Frandsen had three hits, although their AVGs remain appreciably different at .249 and .301. Posey led off the 4th inning with his 3rd PCL HR. Schierholtz played a full nine innings in his third rehab appearance, and his performance included throwing out a runner at the plate. Carroll, who has spent most of this season in the majors (with 88 AB in 67 games), had three singles in his twelfth PCL game.
Pucetas bounced back from his previous start (9 ER on 9 H in in 6.0 IP) with just 2 ER, but he allowed 9 H once again, raising his BAA to .256. Former Giants' farmhand Hensley now has a 3.61 ERA in fourteen PCL starts this year.
AA: Connecticut defeated Erie 6-3
(rallying for three runs in the 8th inning)
Connecticut: LF-CF Mike Mooney: 2 for 3, BB, CS
Connecticut: C Jackson Williams: 2 for 4, 2 2B
Connecticut: LHP Madison Bumgarner: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 5 K--1 IBB
Connecticut: LHP Dan Runzler: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 K--1 HR
Connecticut: RHP Matt Yourkin: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Mooney and Williams each had two of the Defenders' eight hits, raising their respective AVGs to .250 and .227. After connecting for his 16th and 17th doubles, Williams now has a line of .227/.318/.314 through 229 AB this year. A year ago in the Cal League, where he spent the latter of half of his season, he had a fairly similar .231/.309/.321 line in 156 AB.
Pitching on five days rest, Bumgarner had his second straight with 2 ER in 5.0 IP. With 3 BB against 5 K last night, his K/BB in his last ten starts has slipped below 2.00 (30 K and 16 K in 52.0 IP). After allowing just 5 R in 47.2 IP previously this year, Runzler allowed a home run in his upper minors debut. Yourkin had 2 K in a perfect 9th inning for his 3rd save.
A+: San Jose defeated Rancho Cucamonga 10-8
(after leading 10-3 in the middle of the 7th inning)
San Jose: LF Thomas Neal: 1 for 4, 2B, BB, SO
San Jose: DH Brian Bocock: 2 for 4, 2B, SO
San Jose: RF Tyler Graham: 2 for 4, HR, SO
San Jose: RHP Kyle Nicholson: 6.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 5 K
San Jose: RHP David Mixon: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB
Graham and Bocock each had two of the Giants' nine hits, including Graham's 6th HR and Bocock's 20th double. Offensively, Neal added his organization-leading 37th double, while defensively he threw out a runner at the plate but also committed his 2nd error of the season.
Nicholson's second Cal League start webt better than his first (9 H but just 2 ER in 5.0 IP). The 3 BB last night was uncharacteristic of a pitcher who issued just 22 BB in 127.1 IP (0.17 BB/IP ratio) previously this year. Making his first appearance after his start for Fresno, Mixon retired just one of the five batters he faced.
A-: Augusta defeated Charleston 3-2
(scoring the decisive runs in the bottom of the 9th inning)
Augusta: DH Andy D'Alessio: 1 for 3, BB
Augsuta: C Johnny Monell: 1 for 3, BB, 2 SB
Augusta: RHP Mike Loree: 6.1 IP, 10 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K--1 HB
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 2.2 IP, 1 K
Monell and D'Alessio each had one of the GreenJackets' four hits, all of which were singles; and each had one of their four walks. Not normally a base-stealer, Monell had his 2nd and 3rd SB of the year. All three GreenJackets' runs scored on sac flies.
Loree's third straight start with 2 ER improved his ERA to 4.21, although his ERA in seven second half starts is still above 4.50. Quirarte had perhaps his most effective appearance of the season, stranding both inherited runners while retiring all eight batter he faced. He had a 3/4 GO/FO line as he got his ERA back below 5.00.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Spokane 4-3
Salem-Keizer: CF Evan Crawford: 2 for 4, SB
Salem-Keizer: RHP Jorge Bucardo: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
Crawford was the only Volcano to reach base twice. Their offense was limited to six singles and a couple steals.
The younger Bucardo had his second straight sub-par start, but this was an improvement on his last start (5 ER on 9 H in 6.0 IP). In each of his last two starts, he has primarily been victimized by one big inning. Although his ERA is now over 3.00, the 19-year-old's peripheral stats remain fairly impressive through ten starts this year: 50 H, 12 BB, 2 HR, and 51 K in 54.1 IP.
R: Giants lost to Indians 4-2
Scottsdale: 3B Josh Lopez: 2 for 4, 3B, SO
Scottsdale: RF Rafael Rodriguez: 1 for 3, 2B, SO
Scottsdale: RHP Chris Heston: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 7 K--2 HB, 1 BK
Scottsdale: RHP Raul Burgos: 1.0 IP, 1 K
Lopez had two of the rookie Giants' six hits, whose offense was limited to those six hits plus a steal. After being drafted out of high school two years ago, he is now hitting .333/.389/.439 through 66 AB in his third AZL season. Raf-Rod's 5th double as the rookie Giants' other XBH.
Making his fourth start in seven appearances, Heston had new career highs with 5.0 IP and 7 K. This was his second straight start with 1 ER, but his ERA remains above 5.25 after a couple big crooked numbers in two of his appearances. Making his eleventh appearance of the season, Burgos pitched a perfect 9th inning, his first appearance without allowing a baserunner this year. In his first nine appearances, he issued 12 BB in 11.1 IP.
DSL: Giants lost to Blue Jays 10-8
Dominican: 1B Rey Duran: 3 for 5, 2B, SO, E
Dominican: RHP Bertoni Garcia: 5.0 IP, 2 H, 6 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K--1 HB, 1 E
Duran's (20.0 y.o.) three hits improved his line to .266/.333/.438 through 203 AB, which is a definite improvement over the sub-.600 OPS he had in 67 AB a year ago. Garcia (18.1 y.o.) entered in the 3rd inning to provide long relief. Victimized by his defense, he allowed six runs despite allowing just five batters to safely reach base. Two of the runs scored after he left the game when the next reliever issued a couple walks and threw a couple wild pitches.
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Good Pucetas is fine
Or at least better than POOcetas
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Posey
It’s pretty awesome that he’s showing more power than he was projected to out of college.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
And given his batting averages, he may have truly surpassed Carlos Santana as the best catching prospect in baseball.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
he’s been a head of Santana on nearly all major lists.
Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball
"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson
Posey’s Fresno line is now up to .260 / .356 / .468.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
What’s amusing is that Posey’s cumulative MLE for the year is .234/.303/.374.
While that may not look like much, it’s pretty comparable to the .262/.272/.421 line we’ve gotten from Molina.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
while I’m not doubting the validity of those MLE’s in general, I don’t see Buster Posey as a .234 hitter in the major leagues.
embarrassed father of over the hill Edgardo Renteria
MLEs are really speculative and based on a lot of assumptions. You’ll get very different MLEs for the same player from difference sources, too.
rotorueter’s getting them from minorleaguesplits.com, which in my experience tends to be more conservative than some other sites on MLEs.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
For example, Posey has walked almost exactly as often as he’s struck out – an that’s held firm jumping from San Jose to Fresno. But the minorleaguesplits MLE for him expects him to strike out almost twice as often as he walks.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I think those are based off of what the batter is currently doing
Busters iso stuff is all great but his MLE isn’t going to be great with that batting average(which is basically product of low BABIP). Although my understanding of MLEs could be completely wrong and, if so, forget everything I’ve said.
Actually
rotorueter’s talking about Posey cumulative MLE – including both his Fresno and San Jose stats. His cumulative line is .313 / .413 / .524 with an above-average BABIP of .337.
Interestingly, if you do the MLE just for his numbers in Fresno, you come up with almost the same MLE: .225 / .300 / .375.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I wouldn’t worry too much about his high BABIP in San Jose, though. He was a truly dominating hitter in San Jose, and dominating hitters often have BABIPs well above the average.
/replying to himself
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Here’s what Baseball Prospectus has for Buster:
.276/.325/.415 San Jose
.231/.322/.410 Fresno
BP tends to be a little more optimistic in its translations. I don’t remember the ins and outs of why, but we had a discussion somewhere around here about it this summer.
His peak translations are drool worthy
.296/.390/.505 – SJ
.256/.359/.474 – Fresno
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
Wouldn’t the low mle have something to do with how fast he’s moved? I don’t know much about it. But unless this is taken into account, it would be comparing his aaa numbers, which come in his first full pro season after a call up straight from single-a, with those of people like frandsen who had a lot more experience by the time they hit aaa – and despite better numbers are unlikely to be anything special in the majors.
by Kalk on Aug 8, 2009 12:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Alderson
Tim pitched six hitless innings for Altoona and won again.
Notes From Volcano-Land
Hello guys from sunny Oregon!
I got a chance to see the Volcanoes today. They don’t have a lot of headliners this season, but there’s some intriguing guys. I’m a little late, and rushing to head out to today’s game, but here’s some notes:
The obvious highlight was seeing Jorge Bucardo, and my first impression is…hm. The most notable thing is that he throws with two pitching slots. I didn’t have good enough seats to get a good read on which pitches were what, but these are my estimations: From a low 3/4’s slot, it appears he throws a fastball and changeup. Neither are great pitches. The changeup he usually throws pretty straight, but the fastball is almost always down and away. It’s a miracle (and a testament to catcher Ryne Price) there weren’t any wild pitches or passed balls. The fastball in particular he couldn’t hit the zone with. I’m honestly not sure it’s not a slider, but if it is, then I didn’t see him throw a straight fastball. From a sidearm slot, He throws what appears to be a slider,with very lateral motion, and a curveball, which is a strict 12-6 break. The fastball is 86-90, change sits in the 78-81 range. The curve is 79-83, while the (sidearm) slider is 83-87.
The movement on the pitches is key with him. The fact that his arm angle can tip pitches is offset by the vastly different motions the balls go. The sidearm slider is nearly entirely a horizontal break, and sometimes appeared to rise. The curve doesn’t go side to side. However, he doesn’t hit corners well with either, and the fastball and changeup are so erratic that they aren’t great weapons just yet. Also, he tends to dip his arm lower on the curve than the sidearm slider, which is a definite tip.
I’m not yet sold on him, after seeing him. He’s got a lot of room for improvement, and will have to. Patient hitters or those that can read and adjust to arm angles at higher levels will pound his pitches.
Gary Moran is…well, big. But I was impressed with his curve, which broke back across the plate. at 76-80 MPH, it’s a tricky pitch to handle. His fastball velocity at 85-88 isn’t too impressive, though.
Juan Martinez was the most intriguing hitter to watch. His stance starts with him practically straddling the batter’s box side-to-side, then he closes it up on the pitch. He’s made it work to a degree, but I don’t know if it’ll play at the higher levels.
Anders runs like Bengie Molina.
Dominguez is big, and he looks like a ballplayer, but his reactions aren’t ideal for third. His steal of third was borderline hilarious. He is not fast, but he’s not slow, but he didn’t slide. He just went in; the throw was high, and the third baseman lept a bit to catch it, and Dominguez practically flipped him like a pro wrestler.
Crawford is fast. His steal of third was also funny. He slid way early, but he practically headbutted the third baseman off the bag. It was the weirdest deadleg I’ve ever seen.
I’ll keep reporting this weekend; I’ll be here until Sunday. Oldjacket, man, I lost your email. If you’re up here, give me a shoutout and hopefully we can say hey.
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I think you’ve got me mixed up with someone else (satiricrash?) . I live in Sacramento.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
D'oh...
I’m so bad with names…I dread the day I do it to a player.
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by BruteSentiment on Aug 8, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't know you were here.
I’m in section 101, row c seat 12. Come say hello if you’re at tonights game.
Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

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