Giants/Reds Series Preview
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 7, 2009 10:59 AM PDT
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PrintWhat if Manny Burriss played for Dusty Baker? Good kid, plays the game the right way, solid defense, can steal bases...is there any doubt that Burriss would still be in the lineup? Wait, that's not fair. You know, Baker gets a bad rap. Just because he favored speedy offensive goofs in the past doesn't mean he's incapable of change. If he were managing Burriss, I'm sure that even Baker would have made a change to g...
Oh. Oh, my. Words fail.
The Reds are having one of those unfortunate "if only" seasons. As in, "if only we had this league average pitching staff and above-average bullpen AT ANY FREAKING POINT OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS WHEN WE WERE SCORING 800+ RUNS EVERY SEASON." So I feel for them. Every team has a bunch of similar stories -- gee, if only we could ship Brian Wilson and Jeremy Affeldt to 2004 and have them lock Matt Herges and Wayne Franklin in a utility closet-- but it's rough when a team's been waiting the better part of a decade for anything approximating average pitching, and now that they have it, the lineup is the worst it's been in a decade.
And the lineup is almost unspeakably bad. Is it hyperbole to describe the lineup as "almost unspeakably bad?"
Fewer runs than the Giants, despite playing in a hitter's park. Good gravy.
Hitter to watch:
The Scott Rolen trade was bizarre. He makes a frumpillion dollars, he's hurt a lot, and he was traded to a team that's struggling to stay ahead of the Pirates. If this were a sci-fi movie, the trade would be represented by a strange glowing orb found in the middle of an asteroid. Scientists would poke, prod, and probe it, but they'd be unable to figure out its purpose. Then it would grow arms and legs, shoot laser beams from its eyes, and destroy Tokyo. That's the Rolen trade. There's no earthly reason for him to be in San Francisco, playing the Giants, so he's obviously going to rise up and demolish us all.
If Rolen has ten hits in the series and drops an oh-fer against Colorado in September, I vow to never accept him as a Facebook friend. Word is bond.
Another hitter to watch might be Willy Taveras, who is guaranteed to get on base 17 times and steal 34 bases now that I've made fun of him. Sorry about that.
Pitcher to watch:
Aaron Harang is kind of my new white whale. He still has great peripherals and an above-average strikeout rate, but he gives up a lot of home runs and has an ugly won-loss record. So a cost-conscious team might not think he's worth the $12.5M next year (plus a $12.75 option with a $2M buyout). I'm not sure if the Reds can be described as "cost conscious" after the Rolen deal, but it isn't inconceivable that they'd want to move Harang to save some clams while not demanding a whole lot back.
With Randy Johnson's salary coming off the books, Harang would be an absolutely perfect fit in San Francisco next year. We wouldn't even lose any ground in Baseball Prospectus' Ugly Above Replacement Player rankings by swapping Johnson for Harang, which is pretty remarkable. So hopefully Harang loses a 1-0 game on Sunday and puts an idea in Brian Sabean's head.
Prediction:
PETT (People for the Ethical Treatment of Toothpicks) will protest every game, and I'll laugh at their hypocrisy. Like, it's okay to make a protest sign with a wooden handle to complain about how toothpicks are treated? What are toothpicks but little pieces of wood? How is that consistent at all? Look in the mirror, PETT. Look in the mirror.
Also, several toothpicks will met a wet demise in the opposing dugout. Welcome back, Dusty. If your team has the lead, make sure you give your starting pitcher the game ball before he walks off the mound.
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4 home runs too
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
DUH WE DONT NEED MORE PITCHING WE HAVE LINSIKUM
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I always thought of Aaron Harang as less of a white whale and more of a white horse
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I wouldnt mind him as a 3rd or 4th starter next year.
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I wouldn’t either! Our new meme could be, “Hey, Aaron, why the long face?”
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Aaron should hook up with Sarah Jessica Parker. That’ll be a stable full of good lookin’ kids.
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 7, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
“…she looks like a foot "
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
I’m assuming they used some amazing make up team + special effects to get her to look somewhat good looking in that movie.
CGI is the only thing strong enough
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Harang looks like Lurch
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
“You Harang?”
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Aug 7, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
can i spin now?
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“Your breasts feel funny.”
“It’s because they’re real.”
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 7, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Also in that movie w/bruce willis in pitsburgh…can’t remember
Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Aug 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Random, but
My wife and I were playing Trivial Pursuit last night, and I got a question for which Ruben Rivera was the answer.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
I wonder if he’s stolen a a game of Trivial Pursuit and sold it.
by SoFa King Mike on Aug 7, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
In honor of this momentous occasion, I present to you, Jon Miller’s famous call of the Rivera play:
The Worst Baserunning in the History of the GameBrian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
awesome
It is funny, but also depressing that he was in a Giants uni when he did this.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
For answering the question correctly were you instructed to move your game piece randomly around the board with no apparent destination?
ba-dum-tish
You have to move the piece past the blue wedge, then back the other way towards the orange wedge, then through the green wedge towards the hub in the middle, go past the hub in the middle and land on the blue wedge. Then your next turn puts you back on the hub, the question you get is “Who shot Abraham Lincoln?”, you say “Lee Harvey Oswald” and lose the game.
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 7, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless the question is, “Who is never the answer?”
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
correction
"Who is 1 man who has never been in my kitchen that I know of?"
Because Ruben Rivera likes to break into houses and make a sandwich when people aren’t home. He tends to get caught though. He gets startled when people come home earlier than he was expecting… He’ll run to the window to see where they are – realize that he forgot his sandwich in the kitchen – trip over a chair in the dining room – run back to the window – remember his sandwich – run back to the kitchen to grab it – check the window one more time – head for the back door – only to find himself in an upstairs linen closet with no way of exit.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
by j14 on Aug 7, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Pirates are set to sign eighth round pick Colton Cain for at least $1MM,
Isnt that a lot for an 8th rounder?
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I hope we sign Zack Wheeler soon. I’d really like to see him get a few innings in before the end of the year.
The deadline’s only like a week ago, so it pretty much has to be soon!
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
“Only like a week away,” I meant.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Travis Ishikawa was picked in, um, I think the 26th round, and we gave him around that much as I recall.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
They had to buy Ishi out of college.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 7, 2009 2:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Welcome back, Dusty. If your team has the lead, make sure you give your starting pitcher the game ball before he walks off the mound.
i laughed and then i cried. strong men also cry. strong men also cry.
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 7, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions
It occurs to me just now (as no doubt it’s occurred to others before) that ultimately that was such a Dodgery thing to do.
Are you surprised at my tears, sir?
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Fuckin’ A
Pablo's not fat. He's just got body.
by LeMasterBlaster on Aug 7, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops. I meant ditto.
Pablo's not fat. He's just got body.
by LeMasterBlaster on Aug 7, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Little Lebowski Urban Acheivers
and proud we are of all of them
Re: Burriss
It would be countered by the fact that he’s not 35 yet, and thus not enough of a “vet” for Dusty.
PS – can Joey Votto take some more time off pls?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
PS, Going to the game today
Good seats, and Lincecum pitching? good gravy.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I predict that Timmy will get to 200 K’s tonight
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Did anyone else see that the Reds have scored less runs than the Giants and yell “Aaahh!”
I, uh, was convinced the apocalypse was nigh.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
That threw me too
How the hell can they score fewer runs than the Giants in that ballpark?
INCONCEIVABLE!!
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
whoa
Just realized that guy looks like the head page in 30 rock, who is apparently named paul scheer. That’s weird.
VOTE SANDOVAL
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
Does anyone know what time the gates open today? I want to make sure I get my free bubbahead. I tried calling the Giants to get a live human but I got a phone tree that had more complexity than the plot of “Lost.”
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
ack, reply fail:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/8/5/979340/on-being-a-giants-fan#19340513
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Just curious, how many bobbleheads are they giving out? They really should make enough for every paid fan.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Email from the Giants I got the other day:
Giants vs. Cincinnati Reds 7:15 P.M.
Gates open early at 4:15 P.M.
Jon Miller Bobblehead, brought to you by Chevron
– First 20,000 fans receive a bobblehead.
Willie Mays, Lefty O’Doul and 2nd and King Gates will all open early at 4:15 for Giants batting practice, and bobbleheads will be distributed at these gates; the Marina Gate will be an exit-only/Express Gate for those not wishing to receive a bobblehead.
Thanks. The Reds are going to feel right at home. This’ll be like the Who concert at Riverfront Stadium!
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
Trampling humor FTW!
On that subject, anybody remember the “Very Special ‘WKRP in Cincinnati’” where they tackled this story?
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny: "The band didn't even know what went down until the concert was over."
Arthur Carlson, lamenting: “This is a good town, Travis. A good town.”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
re: bobbleheads
they appear to have the same “street value” and effect on those who covet them as crack-cocaine… Why?
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/8/5/979340/on-being-a-giants-fan#19340513
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If the Lincecum bobblehead game was bad,
I can imagine the madness for next years for pablo bobblehead game will be similar
"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jonah_freedman/08/07/surprising.giants/index.html
Just in cast anyone here hasn’t seen it, a very complimentary article about the Giant’s and their rebuilding from CNNSI of all places.
what did you break?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Why is every article painting Bonds as Kim Jong-il??
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
Bad comparison. I haven’t seen any stories this week about him releasing female journalists from prison. BARRY BONDS IS HISTORY’S GREATEST MONSTER.
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
highly rated prospects whose names alone (probably more so than the actual players themselves) make Giants fans salivate like they’re in line for garlic fries.
This guys knows what he’s talking about
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 7, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Does he qualify for the Cash for Clunkers program?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
GIAMBINO RELEASED!!! YOUR DAYS ARE OVER GARK KNIGHT!! WE GOT A GRIZZLE VET THAT CAN’T BAT COMING OVER THE BRIDGE!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
No, coming off the DL
Welcome back Richie. Try not to suck too bad…
by crazedcrustacean on Aug 7, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Heard he had defensive issues
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 7, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
No Bengie is the defensive one
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
By the way, the Giants are the best defensive team in the majors, according to UZR. Sort of a surprise.
[Eugenio Velez runs to base of wall to read article]
"He is Tim Lincecum...the Most Interesting Pitcher in the World."
by Kitspool on Aug 7, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can totally see that
Just look at our defensive lineup. Panda. Garko. Uribe playing everywhere. The range of Renteria, the surehandedness of Velez. Great D all around.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 7, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not entirely fair, of course. All our second basemen have been pretty solid defensively. Many of our left fielders. Ishi’s terrific, so is Schierholtz, Rowand’s having a good defensive season. Panda’s at least league average.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 7, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
No yea i understand that, like what i’m saying is that it’s happened all year, with defense and speed, we’ve got talent all around, Nate’s defense and hitting ability, Ishi’s defense and OK hitting ability, same thing with everyone else, if only lewis could develop, whatever, but yea i agree with you, Edgar, even though his range isn’t great, he’s consistent for the most part
our outfield defense is amazing
as is the right side of our infield
Rowand, amazing?
Not so much. Winn is above average, everyone else, averageish.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Rowand’s D has actually been above average this year. 4.6 UZR this year as opposed to -6.5 last year (ouch).
dunno how much credence i give to UZR yet
Rowand’s UZR/150 is 8.2 while Michael Bourn’s is 0.3?
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
Protip:
Use open in new window to link
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually kind of hate when people put that into a link. If I want a link to open in a new window, I’ll tell it too, dammit.
/crotchety old man
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Give me a Pepsi Free
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
what about
big coke bottles? (see sig)
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Bottle > Can
In a pinch you can break the bottle and use it in a street fight
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
bottled coke has real cane sugar!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Soooooo good, dude.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
not for long actually
the Mexican coke (a cola) distributors are running out of $ and are slowly switching to HFCS…i forgot where i read that but its happening.
I only ever see these on the food truck that comes to our work. But yeah, very good.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 7, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
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I’m not talking about a regular fight. I mean a street fight. You know like Ken, Ryu, Blanka, ect…
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I never put “Open in new window”. If someone wants to open it in a new tab or a new window, I give them the choice to do that by right-clicking.
I just hate when I open it and come back and all the post I haven’t read are unmarked =(
I usually left click new window, but every once in a while I forget
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, definitely had that happen many a time before. I’ve just really gotten myself into the habit of always using “Right click, open in new tab” for any links I encounter around the web.
Right click works better doesn’t it
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Since you’re all on the subject of formatting, is there any way I can stop SBNation from autoscrolling to the newest posts. It makes reading McC hard seeing as every thread goes for 500+.
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
I don’t have that problem. I know sometime my screen moves down when post are made above. Using C and X, or if I am replying to something, I just keep typing to get back
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Lately, with all the traffic, I’ve been typing replies and had the text box vanish from my screen several times before I finish typing. It’s a bit annoying, I must say.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
It is annoying, even more so at home b/c my laptop is SSSLLLLOOOOOOWWWWWWW and usually registers like 200 comments at once on gameday threads. I usually avoid gameday threads at home
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
now I am confused
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
/looks at mouse
/sees TWO buttons
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn’t open anything up (I am working w/ tabless IE, no adminstrative rights)
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, that definitely doesn’t have tabs. Might not have middle mouse button functionality either. Oh well.
YOUR NO HELP MET ME AT THE GAEM!!!!!!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, this way I can browse the internet with one hand. I’ll leave the rest up to your filthy imagination.
YYZ!
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PETT
That was funny. It reminded me of something from Zoolander or something. “What are tooth picks but little pieces of wood?” haha
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
Also...
I like Aaron Harang because he went to SDSU
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
Plus his name is Harang
That’s what we need, someone to shout obnoxiously. Good clubhouse fit
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 7, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Go Jack Rabbits!!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Haha. “Derek Zoolander: What is this? A center for ants? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read… if they can’t even fit inside the building?
Mugatu: Derek, this is just a small…
Derek Zoolander: I don’t wanna hear your excuses! The building has to be at least… three times bigger than this!”
Awesome movie!
BP just shat all over us
Ranked the Rockies 6th. Giants 10th. Apparently we don’t play well on the road! Outrageous!
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What a ridiculous claim!
Maybe everybody else just plays better at home like we do! How about that HUH.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Sarcasm aside...
I still think we are better than the Rockies.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
When Timmy’s pitching. . .
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 7, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I say it’s about even. Our pitching is way better than their pitching. Their hitting is way better than ours.
Let's play who would you rather have
Our LFers vs. theirs: Smith over Lewis, Spilborghs over Bowker, edge Colorado
Rowand vs. Fowler: I’d take Fowler
Schierholtz vs. Hawpe: probably Hawpe, but it’s close
Panda vs. Atkins: easy call
Rent vs. Tulo: easy call
Sanchez vs. Stewart or Barmes: Freddy
Ishi/Garko vs. Helton: Helton
Bengie vs. Ianetta: ouch.
So I’ve got it 6-2 Colorado. Their starting pitching is coming around: we have Timmy and Cain. Our bullpen’s better. Dunno. They scare me.
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by Giantsfan4life on Aug 7, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
yup.
I don’t see how we can compete with that unless we hydrate our balls before the top half of every inning
Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe - Theodore the Dodger Hater Roosevelt
by Cannonballden on Aug 7, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Hawpe over Nate isnt really close at all.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
This
To suggest otherwise is such utter nonsense
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 7, 2009 2:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
86 projected wins at BtB
WOAH, calm down over there
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
don’t tell Lars
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm tired of being ranked below texas
i think we would take them in a series easy, just like in june…
OT: Holy God, did you guys hear this?
Barry Zito has a demo track….
it’s on a Y! Sports blog.
He just can’t stop making us die inside, can he?
Its on a fanshot
But nobody cares about fanshots so its ok
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
his weakness off the field
is making him look like more of a man on the field
Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe - Theodore the Dodger Hater Roosevelt
Completely hypothetical scenario: With the day off, it would allow the Giants to move up Jonathan Sanchez to pitch on Sunday vs. the Reds. This would allow Cain to move back a day and start the first game of the Dodgers series. Would you like/dislike this hypothetical scenario?
Going to the Cain game on Sunday so dislike!
But also, Cain would be on 7 days rest if he pitched Monday. I think that’s a bit too long.
Everybody loves money
Matt Cain has never beaten the Dodgers. Just sayin’
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
by rxmeister on Aug 7, 2009 2:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That was before he learned how to win.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 7, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This!
Bochy was quoted in the paper the other day saying there weren’t enough off-days to do this, but as you just laid out, you only need one. Conclusion: Bochy can’t count to one.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 7, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
ION
A team made a waiver claim on Alex Rios. They’re not saying which one, but the Jays could easily say “OK, here” and rid themselves of that contract.
Should I be worried?
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
oops
nm
Anagram of "knowing how to win" = WOW, I KNOW NOTHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 7, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Carney loves Mole Man, hates other Giants hitters
Hitting coach Carney Lansford is so delighted with his new No. 2 batter, he might donate his meal money to make doubly sure Sanchez’s option is exercised.
“Our park is perfect, absolutely perfect for him,” Lansford said. "He’s a line-drive hitter, a professional hitter, and he knows what he’s doing at the plate. He’s a former batting champion and you don’t have to watch him long to see why. He doesn’t try to do too much with the ball. He has a plan with two strikes.
“Maybe we’ll have a guy on this team who doesn’t strike out 80-plus times.”
Lansford remembers a Sanchez at-bat in July, while he was still with the Pirates. With a runner at first base, he intentionally tried to stay back and shoot the ball to right field. If he didn’t get a hit, at least he was going to advance his teammate.
“I haven’t seen anybody here try to do that in two years,” Lansford said. "It’s the ability to handle the bat. That’s how you get a guy over from second base with nobody out.
“It’s refreshing. That’s the best word I can use to describe it.”
lol. Take that Bengie.
I’d really hope for this to be addressed by the Brass in light of the Shawayorwean (whatever) Dunston comments.
They brought lansford on to teach this kind of hitting, and while I’m very aware that coaching doesn’t change inherent talent, it can go a whole hell of a lot further (speaking from personal experience) if one of your specialty coachs isn’t being undercut in his field by another coach (who handles an entirely different area).
I’d really like to see some accountability here, but that’s probably a dream.
Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.
Then TEACH it, Lansford
Teach it or quit. “I haven’t seen anybody here try to do X in two years.” Gee, who has been our hitting “coach” for two years? Hmmm… It’ll come to me. It’s one thing if a player can’t DO this or that, but Lansford is talking about TRYING to do it. TRYING comes from teaching, and clearly, Lansford sucks as a teacher.
And I am not buying this brand new excuse for Lansford that the infield “coach” is undercutting him with his contradictory thoughts. Nonsense. If that’s happening— and it might well be — it’s no excuse. The hitters know from whom to take their cues, and if they don’t, then it is up to the manager and/or GM to make sure the players know from whom to take which advice.
Also, new drinking game: take a shot any time Lansford uses the phrase “professional hitter.”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
i don't think there is a hitting coach
that can change the approach of Molina, Rowand, Schierholtz etc etc. These guys have gone through their MLB career and minor league career hacking and that’s what they’re going to continue to do regardless of hitting coach. If you want patient hitters, you should sign patient hitters.
Yeah, I wasn’t trying to say lansford was without blame.
What I was saying is that I’d like to see this conflict in coaching style and results addressed.
Proud new co-dad of Travis Ishikawa. And ishikaBOOM Goes the Dynamite.
I agree re Molina, Rowand, and probably Sandoval.
But anyone with fewer than 2 MLB years should (a moral and practical judgment on my part) be amenable to learning, and should just have the sheer self-interest to want to improve and secure a job, and not be the next Lindenesque flameout.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
IIRC, Bengie seemed to always go the other way or up the middle with runners in scoring position.
Lansford needs to address the team about these issues, not the media.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Regarding Bengie
I meant last year, this year he’s just hacking.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Nice, Carney!
I actually don’t have a problem with those human spped bumps under the bus tires on that one. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Randy Winn tries that all the time. In fact, it makes him a worse hitter.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 7, 2009 2:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
EVERYONE REMEMBER HE PLAYS IN AL EAST! IF HE PLAYS IN NL WEST HED BE BETTER THAN PULOJS
Minor White > Ansel Adams
Thread Fail…was wondering why it didn’t post in the Alex Rios fan shot
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
OK
Jason Giambi was released by the A’s. John Smoltz was DFA by the Red Sox today. When do the Giants do either with Rich Aurilia, who is playing as bad as either player?
I'll be more concerned about it when he is suited up for a MLB game
I don’t mind giving Richie ONE more game at the MLB level, let him have an at-bat or two in ONE game, and have that kind of be ‘Farewell, Rich’ night. If it goes beyond that, then yes, I’ll be with you. As long as he’s knocking around central California, who cares.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
Orestes on ESPN just said that it would be smart for the Giants to pick him up.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 7, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
We should try to win at least 14 innings this series..
That should be enough for a series win.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2011 Opening Day starting SS!
Just walked by the park
There are already people lined up for the free bubbahead.
This happened for the Wilson one. The line was insane. I watched it go by while I had a drink at the Chophouse. Then I walked right in and they had 100’s left.
I’m glad they have a non-bubbahead entrance.
You have got to be kidding me, seriously are bobble heads really so important that you go stand in line at 2:20 in the afternoon, is there a better way one can spend their day and then just go to the game when they always do?
Where are the non-bobblehead entrances?
Not to mention it’s for a broadcaster, not even a player. It’s something about the hunt. I’ve heard of people buying a game ticket and then just going in and getting the bubbahead and then leaving. Makes no sense.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
What a waste, i mean why not just give a ticket to someone that’ll actually WATCH the game? That’s why i could care less about a bobblehead, it’s cool, but it’s not the point of why i go to games, it’s not even because of Lincecum, it’s because i want to watch some baseball
If I go over there even remotely early, it’s because a) I work acoross the steet from AT&T and b) my mom wants the bobblehead. But, I think I might just stay at work, becuase that sounds more fun than waiting in line with those suckers.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, yea dude, there’s no way i’m standing in a line for 2 hours for a bobblehead… playoff tix? that’s another story. Lucky you working across the street from the park
I also have free parking even on weekends. I will never leave my job.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
There are not enough free bubbaheads in the world!
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I mentioned on another thread that the Giants could be giving away dog shit and people would like up early because it’s free.
Not to mention it’s for a broadcaster, not even a player.
I agree that it’s ridiculous to stand in line for hours like that, but to talk about Jon Miller this way is made of fail.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 7, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plus, 2 hours before the gates open = 5 hours before the game starts.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Theyr’e all sitting on the ground. If they’re lucky they might see some Reds players walk by.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If i had a family, i’d bring my kids out there and tell them to bring their gloves, that’d be fun then
I love BP. The kids have so much fun hanging over the walls in the outfield and begging the players to throw them baseballs. It’s fun watching pitchers try to catch fly balls, too.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, you know, the players also will just hang around, possibly sign a few autographs, it’s laid back and fun
Plus if you want to talk trash to opposing players its very obvious they hear you
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
well yeah, but don’t say offensive things. You can talk trash but still be good natured about it.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Example Mark Grace gave on a broadcast
“Hey Grace, what’s your last name?”
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
It is the best atmosphere.
Zito signed autoraphs for awhile on Saturday. Then again, so did Bip “Win this Inning!” Roberts.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember when the Dodgers were in town. Will Ohman spent the entire BP talking to everyone in the stands while shagging flies
2:25
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1:09
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 7, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
6:66
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
what did I see?! could I believe that what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooooh exciting
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/8/7/981374/rios-claimed-by-unknown-team-open
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Damnit, I guess I'm not getting a bobblehead
I’m hear till 5. ;)
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
What? What?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: I know that KNBR and The Bone are separated by a hallway or whatever
But it’s kinda disorienting to hear commercials I hear during Giants game during the day on The Bone.
Sorta like those commercials that Steven Seaweed does voice-overs for that run on KNBR (forgot what they were for though).
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
Completely Random and Off Topic
Pitchers winning the MVP, yay or nay?
Personally I just don’t like the idea of Starting Pitchers winning MVP, even somebody like Lincecum misses 130 games a year. An everyday player should win the MVP award unless the entire league fail to produce one position player that projects out to be a 10 WAR player.
I dont like it either
But I wouldnt be mad if a really deserving pitcher won it
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Jeremy Affeldt
Eugenio "Skinny Panda" Velez post All Star OPS 1.079
by cybermaldonado on Aug 7, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a big fan of pitchers getting the MVP. Series MVP in the playoffs I can buy.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 7, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
DUDE
Per Baggs: Aurilia activated, Bowker to Fresno
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2009/08/07/aurilia-activated-bowker-to-fresno/
Correction: per Carl Steward, filling in for Baggs.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Hmmm, now who’s going down when Nate and Torres come back?
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on Aug 7, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
rich!
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BLOODY MURDER
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
what happened to the 40 man call up in sept… why now?!
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Bowker was up for what? Like 10 dayS? He was given 1 ab I remember and hit a triple. I know he’ll be up in Sept., but it really is getting old watching the Giants jerk the young players around in favor of the crappy veterans who should be retired.
Eugenio "Skinny Panda" Velez post All Star OPS 1.079
by cybermaldonado on Aug 7, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, at some point if a guy won’t retire, then you just have to let him go and stop sacrificing young player development for his feelings.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL. I’m laughing because the tears won’t come
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 7, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone get Tonya Harding and that douche with a pipe up here STAT.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 7, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Innacurrate reporting BTW
Bowker did not play in 13 games since being called up. He was called up on July 31 and only had one AB. And now he’s gone…
Eugenio "Skinny Panda" Velez post All Star OPS 1.079
by cybermaldonado on Aug 7, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
WORST. COMMENT. EVAR!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 7, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
more like FAILineup
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 7, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
5th inning defensive replacement
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sad but true
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Molina at cleanup is all I need to make that determination, but Winn hitting 5th over Garko? Winn is hitting .234/.314/.299 since the ASG. That’s horrible.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 7, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
RH pitcher
Bochy worships at the altar of alternating hitters. I think it’s stupid to rely so much on rote and so little on what actually will work better. But, that’s Bochy for you.
Eugenio "Skinny Panda" Velez post All Star OPS 1.079
by cybermaldonado on Aug 7, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Uribe who?
Bochy forgot all about poor Juan and it’s too bad because Uribe really needs to take some time from Rents at SS.
Eugenio "Skinny Panda" Velez post All Star OPS 1.079
by cybermaldonado on Aug 7, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I do not get the Winn in the 5th spot besides the obvious L-R-L-R… thing
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 7, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't think of Winn as in the 5th spot
Think of it as two lineups, or as nostock astutely pointed out, a FaiLineup.
But what nostock didn’t take into account, is the position it puts us in in the THIRD inning.
And that’s where Boch’s genius lies. Thinking 3 steps ahead.
1st Inning:
LF Velez – single
2B Sanchez – ground out, Velez to 2nd
3B Sandoval – first pitch swinging, warning track fly out
C Molina – first, second and fourth pitch swinging strikeout
FAIL
2nd Inning Winn is leading off:
RF Winn – weak grounder to [1 of 5 possibilities]
1B Garko – flyout to deep Left center
CF Rowand – strikeout swinging
FAIL
3rd Inning:
SS Renteria – weak grounder to SS
Timmeh – grandslam.
Genius
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Got my bubbahead. No line. Boxes of bubbaheads as far as the eye could see.
Watching BP. Weather is amazing.
by kdl on Aug 7, 2009 5:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
OT:
whats the site that often floats around here that has the video streams of baseball games?
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here's one
atdhe.net
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by cybermaldonado on Aug 7, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
also:
im sorry:
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5964863
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