On Being a Giants Fan...
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 5, 2009 11:11 PM PDT
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PrintThis site's been around for almost five full seasons. A quick recap of the previous four:
2005: Pain
2006: Pain
2007: Pain
2008: Pain
Just think about the things we've tried to get excited about. Like, say, Kevin Frandsen's three-hit debut, the possibility of fleecing another team for Matt Morris, or, good god, thinking Sean Casey could improve the team in some tangible way. It's been a long, long time since this team gave us something to be legitimately excited about. So how are we handling it?
With the same aplomb we always have. I'm pretty sure "aplomb" is a synonym for "bitter, pithy, and negative grumblings", and I'm too lazy to look it up. And when I use the royal "we" I'm referring specifically to the vast majority of you who don't form opinions until you read my thoughts on that particular subject. Thank you for your support. For those of you, though, who wonder why there's so much pessimism on this site during such an exciting season, this post is for you. Let's say this is a binary world, and there are two themes to discuss:
- The good in the world. Tim Lincecum's awesomeness, Matt Cain's overall benevolence, and Pablo Sandoval's spherical sublimity. I could write 750-word paeans to all three a couple of times per week, ignoring any and all losses in between.
- The bad in the world. The fact that one team's "player struggling to hold onto a lineup spot" is another team's "cleanup hitter." The flood of unpleasant thoughts associated with a simple number like 126,000,000. Thinking about Wilson Alvarez giving up a grand slam to Devon White years after you should be thinking about it.
The second group makes for more compelling copy, as it were, but that's not really the reason I'm averse to rainbow-tinted optimism. The only way to explain this one is in allegory form.
Imagine that you've been on about, oh, fifty dates in your life. Some are duds right out of the gate, and some are mildly interesting, but there are a few that are amazing. Shared interests, a mutual attraction, a naturally flowing conversation...everything's working. At no point in the evening do you second guess your excitement. You stay up all night talking, and at just the right moment, your date whispers into your ear, "Excuse me while I slip into something more comfortable." And you wait patiently as your date disappears behind a closed door. The anticipation is almost the best part. And when your date opens the door, she's in full clown makeup, covered in pig entrails, and mumbling, "Mama paint you pretty now? Mama paint you pretty now?"
I wasn't around for '62 or '71. But I've still been on more than a few of those dates with the Giants. It always ends the same damned way. So right now, we're at dinner. The food is amazing. There's live music playing, and it's pretty danged good. I catch a stray glance from the Giants, and I act like I don't notice that they're staring at me. Everything's sure shaping up for an exciting season. But forgive me if I'm a little preoccupied with how the 2009 Giants will define "comfortable" when they say they're going to leave me to slip into something a little more comfortable. I've been there. The images are burned into my brain.
And that's why I can be a little negative with a team as exciting as this. Is that also a backhanded admission that I've made out with my computer screen when Tim Lincecum's FanGraphs page is up? No. Nothing that would stand up in court, anyway.
I'm having fun this season. But I'm still afraid, and it's only because I'm using the early warning system that nature gave me. So I'll continue to pick at the lineup, managerial moves, and front office decisions. Bengie Molina hitting cleanup? That's like your date mentioning that she really, really, really likes Emmett Kelly paintings. Edgar Renteria failing to show anything that resembles a baseball-related skill? That's like your date mentioning her respect for how Native Americans used "every last part of the pig." You were about to correct her and tell her that she meant "buffalo," but that would have messed up the moment. After the date's over and your police report is filed, you'll start to play the events back in your head, and everything will make sense.
So, yes, this has been a fantastic season to this point. It's been exciting beyond words. And I'm still going to complain a lot. Fifty-once bitten, fifty-twice shy. Prove me wrong, Giants. Prove me wrong.
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I still feel "meh"
I don’t want to get excited. As a fan of not only the Giants but the Red Sox, I’ve seen double digit leads from BOTH team evaporate. I’ve seen two game 6 World Series games blown where both could have clinched.
That being said, this has been a fun year. I love watching Pablo hit and Lincecum pitch.
These are also my 2 favorite teams (Giants #1 - of course)
even if it doesn’t conform to Grougthink…
I “liked” the Red Soxs until I lived in the Boston area and realized that the fans are equivalent to Yankee fans!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
while doing business at IBM East Fishkill, a local customer engineer told me :
“you know what’s the only thing worse than the Red Sucks? Red Sucks Fans”
Having left Boston before I was 6 months old...
I wouldn’t know about that. However, if / when the SF Giants ever win the Big One (miracle of miracles), I’m sure that there will also be thousands of obnoxious Giants fans (at least to fans of other teams). Imagine how many “new” Giants fans there will be…
How many "new" White Sox fans were there after 2005?
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 6, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Eight?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I’m just saying that I don’t think a World Series championship would lead to a huge group of new, obnoxious Giants fans. The Red Sox are a different case; they’re located on the East Coast, half the employees of ESPN are fans of the team and their fanbase was already obnoxious. It’s just that they used to be considered charming because they never won anything.
I think a WS win for the Giants would be very similar to what happened to the White Sox in 2005 after ending their even longer title drought: the loyal fans will be excited, and the rest of the nation will collectively yawn.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 6, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's hope that we find out who is correct some time soon...
I don’t really care who is right. It would actually be nicer to find out that you were, although it will be a matter of POV anyway (and we won’t be the best ones to judge).
What is MUCH more important to me is that the SF Giants win a WS in my lifetime.
thats funny b/c I find them to be quite similar
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
the Sox might be my third favorite team (after the G-men and the A’s). Just cuz I hate the Yankees so much.
Right
Sometimes I feel like Billy Hayes walking in the “wrong direction” in the insane asylum of Sağmalcılar Prison whenever I mention that I’m a Red Socks fan here…
GEEZ people! I’M A GIANTS FAN FIRST – THATS WHAT SHOULD MATTER!
I was just giving you a hard time
I really don’t care, as long as you don’t wear a Papelbon tshirt jersey to a Giants game
If guys like Bobby Doerr, Phil Rizzuto and Orlando Cepeda belong, Rice belongs more because those three don’t.
“He’s better than the three worst players in the Hall of Fame” is not a valid argument.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Not that those guys are necessarily the three worst
But I don’t think a lot of people are going to argue that they’re not on the lower tier of HoF guys. And I really don’t see the need to add guys to the HoF that are below-average for the Hall, like Rice is.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Never heard of this mysterious “game 6” thing. But please don’t explain. We don’t need to know.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like with every coming season I get more and more excited about Giants baseball, no matter what the outcome. However, this is the first season in 5 yearsq that I can really say I’ve enjoyed. Thus far, the Giants have exceeded expectations. I am proud of them, and hopefully they ride their stellar pitching and home record to the playoffs.
Even if we don’t make it far this year, KUDOS to many guys on that team.
Grant, nice post, mate.
OH yeah… ITS ALL ABOUT THE GROUNDATTACKZ GUISE. WOOT
Cy Lincecain FTW
Actually I believe
IT’S ALL ABOUT THE ROOSEVELTS BABY!
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Im still in the pessimistic group
But this season definitely has had its happy rainbow sunshine moments
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Pessimism is natural for Bay Area fans
Being a fan of multiple bad Bay Area teams in the last few years makes the pessimism even stronger.
"It is amazing how much can be accomplished if no one cares who gets the credit." - Coach John Wooden
Not to mention the abundance of poor trades, FA signings, and lack of cojones by bay area team management. Every single team has it with exception of the Sharks. Ugh
Cy Lincecain FTW
Or the Earthquakes! Owait they suck too. Damn Houston taking our good team!
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
by GiantBrass on Aug 6, 2009 9:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And the Sharks
always seem to find a way to break our hearts too
Well, at least the Niners have FIVE rings to show for past successes.
For anyone that has been a SF Giants fan for any length of time PESSIMISSM = REALISM.
Eternally optimistic
Every year of the 23 years I’ve been alive I have looked forward to every Giants baseball regardless of the outcome of the previous season or knowing that I will probably get burned. Some seasons left me more traumatized then others but I wouldn’t haven it any other way. I guess I’m in the small group of always optimistic Giants fans. Yes this leads to more heartbreak in the end usually but when it’s going good it’s going good. This year has been a great surprise, I though it was another 70-75 win season filled with boring washed up vets. But Instead we get Pablo, Timmy, Matt, and now the additions of Freddy and Garko. I can’t wait for the stretch run!
Go Giants!
Eli Whiteside : Catching no-no's and hitting grand slams
by BleedBlackNOrange on Aug 5, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m still not a believer in this team as a legitimate contender, but I’m getting closer all the time. I still think the 11 game road trip that starts at the end of next week is going to put a crushing end to all of this hope. If they come back from that road trip within 3 games of the playoffs I’ll sign up as a full fledged believer.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 5, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions
The trip doesn’t look that bad.
4 against a flailing Mets team.
3 against the Reds who are not good.
The tough bit is 4 in CO. At this time Cain will pitch but not Timmy.
It could end badly but I think we will win 5 at a minimum. That would not be a bad trip.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 6, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus we always seem to flounder vs the Mets. I could have sworn they stole like 10 bases in the first series vs. us.
They were healthier back then, but I see a problem with that series as well. Lincecum doesn’t pitch in it, and Santana does. We need Zito and Sanchez to continue to pitch the way they have lately, and we need Martinez to be a solid number five starter. I agree that this road trip is the season.
Proud new dad of Edgardo errr Edgar Renteria!!!
in another thread somebody said that after this 11 game trip we will have 22 home and 19 road games left
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 6, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
that was me
And it’s actually 22 home / 15 road – even better!
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I'm gonna make that Blanks series at AT & T
where I can yell for/at the Giants and twelve people from the rows in front of me won’t turn around and look at me like "Who the hell let YOU in?
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
ennnnnhhhh, I still wouldn't rule that out.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
"Ennnnhhhh"?
Thass’ a noise old guys make whenever they move. Or think.
Trust me , it’s bitter knowledge.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait. How can Lincecum not pitch in either the 4 game Colorado series or the 4 game Met series? Is he going twice against the Reds? positiveeuphemism and rx need to get together and figure this out. I’d figure Timmy piths against teh Reds and then Sunday versus Colorado.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
Ishikawa, let the boy hit against lefties.
we really should go 6-0 against the reds
in the 2 series, same matchups
lincecum vs bailey
zito vs arroyo
cain vs harang
It’s like eating lemons when you though you were eating lemon meringue pie.
by paboperfecto on Aug 6, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You can never really tell
Cain lost to Mike Hampton. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
Right.
Let’s get ahead of everybody else!
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
We actually...
hit well against Santana earlier this year, believe it or not.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there is hope for the road trip. The Giants did something against the Astros that they had not done all year on the road: win and win BIG. I think the additions of Sanchez and Garko have taken some of the stress of guys like Winn and Rowand. I think this team can now compete on the road. If they come out of the road trip .500 or better they have a legit chance of winning the wild card. Especially if they take 3 of 4 from the Rockies!
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
well, I would certainly like to believe this
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 6, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
If you want true hope it winning 2 or 3 vs the Bums will do it.
That would drop them into striking range of both the Giants’ and the Rox. Apologies to Rox Girl, and a few other Purple Row the check into here, but if your team can’t man up in their remaining games vs the Bums with less than a 4 game lead then you have no business talking post season. It would be "interesting" to see how the Bum would respond to areal race as well. And pluss it would just continue to show the Bums that the Giatn can, will and do match you game for game when it is head to head. ( Cackles at the last one!)
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I just realized that if we sweep the Dodgers, we drag them down to 3 GB
fffff I am excited and frightened at the same time.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
/ nods
I perfectly underrstand your counter point. It is one of the reasons I am still in the “79 wins” club arround here. Though i think we havedrunkenly increased it to 80 wins recently.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
HEY! I WASN'T DRUNK!
Just mildly buzzed.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
(I'm trusting you not to repeat this to anyone...)
… but I would agree with that. I mean, hey, I’ll be thrilled to get a ticket to the dance any way we can get it, but yeah, I kind of agree.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
any road trip for this team is that bad
by FluLikeSymptoms on Aug 6, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Steps to a good offense:
Double click on folder: “How To Win Ballgames”
- Double click: “stellarpitching.exe”
Loading: stellarpitching.exe…………………………………….LOAD SUCCESSFUL
- Double click: “turbobullpen.exe”
Loading: turbobullpen.exe……………………………………….LOAD SUCESSFUL
- Double click: “dingerz.exe”
Loading: dingerz.exe………………………………………..ERROR. PROGRAM NOT LOADED
- Double click: “groundattackzomg.exe”
Loading: groundattackzomg.exe…………………………….LOAD SUCESSFUL
I think we may be on to something here…
Cy Lincecain FTW
by ramin on Aug 5, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
needs more .app
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
And then some of us just block out the bad.
Thinking about Wilson Alvarez giving up a grand slam to Devon White years after you should be thinking about it
Why the heck are you thinking about some random White Sox/Blue Jays game?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
My thoughts exactly...
Until I remember I was at The Stick watching that game in Section 60, which meant I was roughly 1,435 feet away from home plate. Worst $50 I’ve ever spent.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 6, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh jeez...I still remember how ESPN spoke of that trade.
“The Giants…have reloaded.”
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in England when that trade happened, without regular Internet access, so I didn’t hear about it until like a week later, It was a bit of a shock, needles to say.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Say whatever you want, just keep the needles away from me.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Great post. I think the suck of the last few years is convincing me to be stupidly hopeful about this year’s team but there’s still that nagging feeling of pessimism in the back of my head, the sort of thing that makes me think we’ll be 10 games back by the start of September and so on. And as good as the team has been this season, there are a lot of things to whine about.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Yeah, but did you expect them to do THIS well 105 or so games into the season? Be happy! :)
Cy Lincecain FTW
I am happy! Really happy!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
such a great record. probably my fave EC record.
just barely beats blood and chocolate
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
NOT my favorite PiL record, but it had “Seattle” on it, which, as a Portlander, still makes me laugh. “Don’t like the look of this old town/What goes up must come down!”
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Mistakenly I thought Rotten had suicided , not Vicious.
Imagine my surprise.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he’s still around saying outrageous things and pissing people off. Hasn’t made a record in fifteen years, but what the hell…
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I saw him twice with PIL in the Nineties.
Same lime green jacket contrasting nicely with that alabaster complexion , shock of orange hair and wild – eyed expression…
JL: “Would you like to see my nipples?”
crowdoffreaks: “YEEEAAAHHHH!
JL: ”Would you like to LICK my nipples?“
COF: ”YEEEEAAAAHHHH!“
JL: ”YOU SICK FUCKS!"
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah not anywhere close. This is actually fun.
I loved Bonds, but there was such a sense of urgency with the early oughts teams because every year was that much closer to the end for him; they HAD to win, because a player that great HAD to win the WS, right? This team reminds me of 87 or 89 or 97 – years with lower expectations when one could simply enjoy the ride and hope for the best.
That is the real joy with this team. There may be plenty of warts, but I want to root for Dirty and Bowker and Ishi, and even LOLina can’t ruin that. There’s also something great about having the best pitcher in the league so soon after the best hitter in the league departed.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2009 11:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This
I still can’t believe we’re here, and have essentially been in the wild card lead for 3 months; its much easier to come from nowhere. And the fact that we’re here yet keep handicapping ourselves with LOLina and Renteria just frustrates me, as if we’re trying to miss a miracle.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I really wish we could find a future shortstop somewhere. The FA market this year and next is real thin, other than like, JJ Hardy. I was hoping it would be Brandon Crawford but lol. (And don’t say Gordon Beckham because then this post would be “I wish we could find a catcher somewhere.”)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Buster can play both!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Do you doubt it?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Then we’d be looking for our future first baseman.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Randy Winn
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Aren't we doing this anyway?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Trade for Alexei!!! They have Beckham
by microwave donut on Aug 6, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That really reads like a soccer comment.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 6, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, Crawford has really struggled at double A. I also didn’t realize how long he’s been there (78 games as opposed to 25 at SJ). Of course it is his first taste of the upper minors and if he does play elite defense then he doesn’t exactly have to mash. That line is pretty ugly though.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
wow
You’re already writing off Crawford in only his first season of pro ball. Now that’s an extremely SSS. I too would like a long-term decent short-stop, but let’s face it, with Rent’s remaining contract there’s no way we sign a FA or make a trade until the end of next season.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Check out Crawford's track record
He’s a guy who needs a bit more time to adjust to new levels than other players require. Look at his college career: after his sophomore year, he looked like a top 10 draft pick. Then he went to the Cape Cod league, had a hard time adjusting to wooden bats, and screwed up his swing. Took most of his junior year to recover, which is why he fell to us in the 4th round. But he does adjust. He’s still a tremendous prospect.
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 6, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
hmm that is an intresting thought...
That might have more to do with how Freddie Sanchez does. I could see a signing of Scuctro and shuffling Renteria to 2nd if they don’t like enough what Sanchez shows them( say turn down the option, offer arbitration and see if someone else signs him give the Giants picks or a non guaranteed contract for 2010). I don’t think I would want them to do that but I could see the logic behind it.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Scutaro is going to be a type A free agent
no way we sign him
That will seriously damber his free agent value the same way it did cabrera
They need to do away with free agent compensation, and at the same time use that as leverage with the players union to get hard slotting for amateur draft.
Just like there is now way this Gm would sign Mike Tucker?
Seriously thought SS and CF are some of the hardest positions in all of Baseball to fill. With Marco not being much of an offensive force (generally speaking) the amount of suitor he has for age 34 & 35 years will probably be very small.
Again though I am not saying they should do it. More like it was thought that FLA-Giants spurred and since I have very little filter between my brain and my fingers to vomited out there for purposes to bat it around.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
It would basically go against everything the giants have done the past 2-3 years. They purposefully avoided type A free agents this year and waited until after the arbitration deadline to sign Renteria.
Ture but say the Giants have, Winn, Molinia & Freddie Sanchez out there and 2 of those 3 get singed just how much of a loss is that?
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I don’t think it’s ever a good idea to punt a draft pick for a player unless you’re getting a super star. I especially wouldn’t want to punt it away for a 34 year old short stop coming off a career year.
Getting draft picks for all those players you listed above shouldn’t give us a reason to sign a type A. We should always be trying to stock pile draft picks.
And who is gonna sing Molina as a type A? or even Winn?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Celine Dion?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
/ eyes Mets…
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
As a rule of thumb I agree.
But is top level defensive SS while having and elite Top of the Rotation worth a 25 or higher pick? And if you are getting 2-3 extra picks before teh 2nd round just how damaging is that? Say someone signs Molinia that pick my actually be higher than our own pick.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
Say someone signs Molinia that pick my actually be higher than our own pick.
Unlikely. We will probably have a high teens or low 20’s pick. Plus Molina might not be offered arbitration
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
You really think the Giants will finish wiht upteen teams haveing a better record then them? You truely do belong with lars & I in the 79 80 Win Club!
And I am not trying to say Molinia will be signed but at what point does punting a pre 2nd round pick for teh glove of Scutro start to tempt us?
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
if we want a short stop with a glove
why not just sign adam everett
niether would I. And think this year has shown he has his health back. Of coarse his stick could almost be slotted in to #4 spot when Molinia leaves ( Joke.. mostly).
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I started watching MLB before Ozzie Smith hit the show and guys like Mark Belanger roamed the diamond. I have nothing but love for a light hitting SS with a glove that stops almost anything with in 7 feet of the ground and is hit to the left side of the second base bag.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
There once was a man named Vizquel…
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not writing him off at all but it would be a bad idea to be depending on him as a future legit shortstop option when he’s hitting .248/.294/.374 in AA.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
owch
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
didn’t somebody write up a fanpost on Crawford in AA, and that he is trying to dead pull everything as a result of the dimension / wind of the ball park, screwing up his swing in the process?
Barry should buy the team. It's his only shot left at a ring.
I hear there’s a vacancy in the owner’s box.
TOO SOON
Leading the Pro-Aaron Rowand contingent on the McC!
You can ridicule me in 2009 if you like...
by ThrillisGone22 on Aug 6, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
way too soon, and way too douchey
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Natto's been hurt before.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I don't not believe.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 6, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not one to not not believe, but I don’t not do that sometimes too.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 6, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh you English majors with your secret codes
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And you should see our secret handshakes!
Well, usually hands, at least. As long as you have the shake part down, it’s probably not a big deal either way.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 6, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
/jealous!
We history majors only have our secret societies.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
English majors "have the shake part down"
TRUE! And to go with the shake, they also have mastered the “Would you like fries with that?”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
sick burn
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Daaaaaa yyuuuummmm
So sayeth the kids these days
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Just like to say how awesome McC is
Being a displaced Giants fan and Bay Area native, I really appreciate all the work that goes into this from the mods and all the great people who visit the site. It’s really cool being able to connect with giants fans and like minded people from the Bay and all over.
Eli Whiteside : Catching no-no's and hitting grand slams
by BleedBlackNOrange on Aug 5, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions
I agree – being stuck in Angels territory makes me homesick – this site has been great in sharing the excitement/LOLs of this season
by DrJ Funk Master Deluxe 3000 on Aug 6, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
This
As someone who mostly always just reads this site and doesn’t post, it’s been great to have you guys serving as proxy for when people ask why I’m not happy about the giants this year. They don’t understand how qualified-but total- my fandom actually is. I too await this upcoming road trip, but even after that I’m sure there will be some other series, or, game that will REALLY determine our season.
Because I’m always going to hope we win and be unreasonably affected by each loss, so at least McC gives me high-quality Lulz along the way.
Until the wheels fall off. Unless this is what it looks like with them on.
by periqueblend on Aug 6, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, well my favorite site member is NotSeeingStars.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Aug 6, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
People always get excited when a homegrown player comes up and gets off to a hot start.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Wait, when did this happen?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Last Thursday or Friday
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Bueno
Congratulations
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I think you’ll do better than the others who came up after impressing in the minors. We’ll keep you for at least a season before you’re benched and then DFA’d.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you. I grew up in Northern California as a huge Giants fan, went to school in San Luis Obispo, and then moved down to LA. The Giants were really the symbol of SF that I loved so much while I lived in crappy LA for 2 years.
I moved back about a month ago and couldn’t be happier that I came back up here. Left my job, and am currently barely working part time, but it was all worth it moving back. Glad I have the Giants and MCC and what not as a community for me to come back to…Oh and a forum for me to post Dirtied pictures of opposing players.
With malice towards the Dodgers
Ohh , snap
why don’t we do that in addition to the Ks…when Jonathan strikes out a hitter that hitter’s dirtied pic is put up?
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Whooo!
Going to Poly next year. Stoked
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
History. I just got back from SOAR yesterday
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Ohh the new orientation thing? Awesome. Cal Poly is awesome. Let me know if you ever need any advice about that place. screenname on aim is heimy25
With malice towards the Dodgers
History majors unite!!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I could not agree more
I am a Giants fan from the Bay now living in Los Angeles with a Dodger-loving housemate. It’s sickening for me to have to see so many blue caps around here or to listen to people talk about why Matt Kemp should have gone to the all-star game instead of Victorino.
This site not only does an amazing job of connecting me to people who share my thoughts on the team, but I really dig everyone’s humor and have learned a ton about statistical information. I enjoy the discussions here and they generally match my sentiment. Thanks very much to the mods and major voices here who shape the atmosphere and make this the popular hub that it is.
Absolutely
I’m 53 years old, and I’ve been a Giants fan since I was 9. 44 years of pain. But this summer is something special. Not to wax maudlin, but five months ago, i got sick, an incurable muscular degenerative auto-immune disease. It’s treatable, and I’m going to be fine, but it has some not fun side effects, like not being able to work since March, and going partially blind for three weeks. Through it all, two things have kept me sane: the Giants, and this site, and my two sons, both, incidentally, fanatical Giants fans too. Thanks to this community, and above all, thanks to Timmy, Cainer, Panda, and Eugenio Velez.
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 6, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Glad you’re going to be fine, my man.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations on recovery, my mang
Best wishes. Autoimmune stuff is no joke. So much of that going on nowadays (MS, sarcoidosis, Guilliane-Barre, etc). Glad you’re on the right track. I hope you celebrate an end to a tough year with a Giants World Championship.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
As a fellow frustrated Giants fan for over forty years, it is good to hear that you are going to be fine and hopefully the Giants will bring you more joy for the rest of the season.
Thanks to all for your good wishes
And go Giants!
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 6, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm right there with you.
I too had an auto-immune disease about a year ago. The Giants and McC were always there for me as well. Good luck in your recovery.
Hell
I wrote this big long encouraging post saying I was happy to hear you’re doing well, explaining my own dependence on sports to get me through the darkest times of my life, blah blah, but Firefox saw it fit to eat the comment instead of post it. So, rather than put my computer in the trash compactor, I say good for you, and I hope you continue to kick ass and take names.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Bravo
Not only can us displaced fans connect with other Giants fans, but we can connect with the die-hard fans. Even friends & family who live within driving distance to the ballpark don’t follow the Giants like I do. If I give them a call, I’m not getting the BABIP of our #8 hitter, or the WAR for our backup infielder. Thanks McCoven for providing a quality service and penis jokes.
As for this season, it’s time to enjoy the moment people. A wise woman once told me, that you need to take the good and you need to take the bad. When the world never seems to be living up to your dreams, suddenly you find the facts of life are all about you. You-u-u!
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
AMEN!!! MCC ROCKS.
I stumbled on this site last summer and it has been among my top-3 most visited blogs since. I, too, am a displaced Bay Arean and am surrounded by more dogger blue than I’d like, but this site keeps me connected and laughing and FIRED UP for the Giants. So THANK YOU Grant, xanthan, jporny & Co.)
BTW, while I share some amount of pessimism with the group here, I will be road tripping to San Diego for the last weekend of the season. I plan to be celebrating a CLINCHED WILD CARD SPOT!!!
Go Giants.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Aug 6, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
JPORNY!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
“Hi, I’m here to fix the cable.”
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
" Did you order a Pizzia with extra salami ?"
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
"Well here's the pizza. And here's ther pepperoni."
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I always pronounce your name in my head as J P ORNERY. It ususally fits best with the contents of your posts.
Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.
There’s no official one anymore, anything goes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
TWSS
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
not officially jp-onry? It’s much more fun that way.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
JP Ornery?
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 6, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I like how many different pronunciations there are for my username.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Jeezy P Oozy
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Jay Pee to the O eezy
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I like the one person who said they sing it to the tune of Take on Me.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
IRL LOL
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew your first name before I knew your last name, so I always assumed your username was first initial + last name. Hence j-ponry.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
J-P on-ry is how I say it.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
What do you get when you cross a brown chicken and a brown cow?
Bown chicken brown cow.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Aug 6, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
i heard this one as:
What are the two sexiest animals on the farm… same punchline
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
That's the bestial joke I've heard today.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I like your version better. I'm updating my files now.
Giants: World Series Champions...in 2011.
by Giants_Junkie on Aug 6, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
lol jporny
I thought that was her SN for a while when I first got here.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but instead of working with silver, JPorny & Co use pearls!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m just enjoying the new vibe the Giants are giving off. I know I complain a lot on this site, but it’s hard to whine about this team. They always seem to be playing hard and having fun while doing it. It’s been a fun and great season. I’m gonna be optimistic that the Giants will make the postseason. I always will myself to believe that the Giants, 49ers and Warriors will do well. It’s been a hellish couple years following the bay area teams. I hope this season is a turning point for the Giants, and they will contend for years to come.
by californianotter on Aug 5, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions
The worm turns
Yeah, it’s been a Hellish few years, but remember the late 80’s when every Bay Area team was doing well, including Cal and Stanford? It all comes around.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Look
I understand. I really do. I’ve been there on those same “dates.”
I remember exactly where I was when J.T. Ummmed his way right into Ivan Rodriguez (apparently he ran the same way he broadcasts [oh, and it was Costco, by the way]). I remember Jose Cruz Jr.‘s catch. I remember Scott Spiezio and Troy Glaus and Reggie Sanders little non-attempt at robbing the homerun and Dusty and Ortiz and the gameball. I remember Steve Finley’s homerun as a Dodger. I remember Steve Finley as a Giant. I remember the fleeting joy of Snow’s game-tying homer off Benitez and Bobby Jones making the best team in all of MLB look like, well, like the 09 Giants. I remember Traschel shutting the Giants down in game 163. I remember a crappy current Giant getting a hit and a throw from the outfield hitting a mound and another crappy ex-Giant looking like a phenom during the rest of the playoffs. I remember Fred McGriff being traded and the Rockies and Saloman Torres and Atlanta being in the west. I remember the A’s winning their only world series in three attempts.
But I also remember that up until the end of each of those seasons it was a blast.
I am almost certain that the Giants will not win the world series this year. But I am completely certain that this season has been a blast.
(Also, maybe this team isn’t over-acheiving as much as we might be letting on: They’re pythag. record is right about the same as their real record…)
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Yeah but we shouldn’t have scored that many runs or allowed that few blah blah blah worst team in baseball imo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I'm waiting for the time when somebody suggests that
the records of each team be adjusted to reflect component stats.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
It's coming.
There are those who study the physics of the soundwaves produced by the instruments, theorize about it, and miss the music altogether.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Even if we make the playoffs, they’ll still have us in the bottom half of the majors.
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
by GiantBrass on Aug 6, 2009 9:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And Edgardo Alfonzo!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Armando Benitez!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Neifi Perez!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Russ Davis!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Edgar Renteria!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2009 12:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmm
Rereading that short list, above, it seems that the Giants sign a lot of guys from teams that crushed our hopes…
We have Bengie and Ramon Ortiz from the 02 Angels.
Renteria and Nen and Livan from the 97 Marlins
Edgardo and Armando from the 00 Mets.
Deion and Klesko and Stanton from the 93 Braves
Stan Javier and Carney Lansford from the 89 A’s
When’s Pudge a free-agent?
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Garrett Atkins
Starting 3rd baseman for your 2011 San Francisco Giants!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
02 Angels?
what a silly team to have crushed our hopes, why… they’re in the AL? silly man, the Giants just played .500 ball that season to miss the playoffs, right?
Oh no.. that damn twitch.. it’s, it’s coming back..
by atxgiantsfan on Aug 6, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Alex Sanchez!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
And Jose Castillo!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Matt Morris!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Shea Hillendbrand!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Rickey Ledee!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And A.J. Pierzynski!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Jeffrey Hammonds!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
AND MICHAEL TUCKER!
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
MIKE #$%$ PORTUGAL & RENNIE STENNETT.
Something. something "RAGE something " Flow" someting, something.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
hes that easy to forget
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That was the GM's fault...
for expecting an Astroturf guy to hit at the Stick.
He went back to Houston in 1993-4 and hit .284 then .310.
This is starting to feel like an exorcism. We should have one big thread where we list all of those marginal Giants who have caused us pain (or just continue here).
It’s actually kind of therapeutic for me.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And, unfortunately, Rich Aurilia…
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
And Brad Wellman!
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Richie rocked ALL houses in '02.
I ’specially enjoyed his Blank ownership.
Alas , that ship has sailed/that hero has failed.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The only Giant I've ever booed
Released about three hours later, thankfully…
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Aug 6, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap!
Ruben Rivera was on the 03 Giants! I thought for certain he had to be on a crappy Giants team!
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
I had forgotten just how much fail there was during that play
Rivera’s baserunning kind of demands the spotlight. But the Diamondbacks didn’t exactly sparkle out there…
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
cue Benny Hill theme
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT WAS STOLEN FROM ME
although mlb took my video down, so at least it’s still up there. Hilarious
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Nice job
Did you do the editing for the repeat dances around second at the end? It’s nice because Miller’s commentary flows on without repeating.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Please give me a second chance..
And Deivi Cruz!
This season has been much more engaging
I haven’t looked forward to games with as much anticipation, or spent as much time reading/talking/thinking about the Giants, since 2003. That season, the Summer after my freshman year in college, was spent at a part time job which allowed me and my friends to spend every day playing ball, endulging in the gifts of mother earth, and watching every game. Suffice it to say I am much busier these days, but the G-men have been sucking my productivity in the best kind of way.
I have to watch every Timmy or Matt start. I can’t resist listening to Jon and Flem or Kruk and Kuip regale anecdotes about the many awesome storylines. But more than everything, I get to open up the newspaper in the morning (kind of an anachronism, as it is more likely a website at my work computer) and see the Giants, my Giants, in the playoff hunt.
I am a believer this year and next.
by Viva Jon Miller on Aug 5, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions
BTW
Chad Santos. Wow. I haven’t thought about him in what seems like forever.
I also love reading old threads. OGC and I really battled it out for the tl;dr title.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2009 11:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm In...
This year has me purely optimistic, while keeping my feet grounded in sarcastic pessimism. Most of that is due to McC, and for that I thank you. A giants fan without many giant fan friends, this place saves me, and I hope we’re all in for a exciting and tremendous stretch run.
suck it russell martin
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
I was watching MLB network coverage of the Prince Fielder RAGE issue, and I pointed out Suck It Russell Martin to my girlfriend. I explained that “Suck It Russell Martin” was actually his name, and must be used in full at all times.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2009 12:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I am a long time Giants fan, but I wouldn’t call myself especially optimistic. But I have seen this team coming for a few years now. They are slightly outperforming my expectations and I am not inordinantly focused on playoffs this year, I’m more interested in the continuation of constructing a highly competitive team for the long haul. That some of our young players are developing faster than we thought possible is really frosting on the cake.
In short, this is a very satisfying year. I truly enjoy timmie’s duplicating last year’s high level of success, Cain’s continued evolution into a top starter, and Sanchez’s phenominal growth. Panda, it goes without saying, but to see Schierholtz blossom, Ishi make steady improvement. And the happiness/optimism is solidified by guys like Bum and Crawford and Neal and Pucetas and…
I saw us as about an 85 win team, so this is really delcious. It just seems earned, seems repeatable. I will agree with the comment about the upcoming road trip as being crucial. But al least we are winning at home, something we didn’t do last year. Go Giants. Can’t wait til my trip to the city next week to see the team crush the fading Dogger pitching.
Get over the Gloom
The Giants have the most exiting new pitcher since Dwight Gooden 25 yrs ago sailing towards his 2nd Cy Young award at age 25, and a guy who would win the Cy if not for the first guy and a Giant Panda putting up some of the best numbers for a 22 yr old since Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams.
Be thrilled!
Word!
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Jack's numbers are better for the pitching dominant era.
For example, George Foster’s 40 homers led the league and Greg Luzinski had 35 for second-place. Right the frak now, Pujols has 36 and 9 other dudes have at least 23. In 1978 Dave Winfield had 24 and finished 10th.
In 1978 Clark’s SLG% was enough to finish 4th behind Dave Parker’s .585, but today .537 is out of the top 10 and .585 is only good for fifth.
I just like having fun games to watch.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
+1 , 000 , 000 , 000
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Off to watch Cheap Seats and go to sleep
Great win today, I still can’t believe Eli hit a grand slam. Have a great night everyone
Go Giants!
Eli Whiteside : Catching no-no's and hitting grand slams
by BleedBlackNOrange on Aug 6, 2009 12:01 AM PDT reply actions
great post Grant
p.s have you ever thought about writing erotic novels? you really had me going during the description of the date.
just saying…
I think an underrated part of our success this season has been our defense
http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&type=0&season=2009&month=0
pretty awesome to see us #1
Wow, the OF has the highest UZR/150 in all of baseball at 15.5. Impressive.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
plus Randy Winn being super awesome and Rowand having a defensive bounceback.
I’d be curious to see Torres’s UZR if and when he has a large enough sample size.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
lol
Rowand at the wall…bounceback…
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Even though there are a few knuckleheads out there, pretty much every OF we’ve played this year (Fred – back in the positives motherfuckers!!!, Rowand, Torres, Winn, Schierholtz, Velez) has pretty good range.
I bet it’s also a large part of the reason why our pitching staff has a 125 ERA+ as a team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Like Omar Vizquel? :D? :D?
:(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Yeah
That guy played some good D.
Too bad he hit worse than Renteria his last year here.
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Pure offense
There’s that hitting thing again.
Nice to see the defensive ranking. And here I was just fantasizing about a lineup completely focused on offense featuring Panda behind the plate, Sanchez at SS, and Velez at 2B.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
at present his OPS with Texas is equal to Bengies
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Aug 6, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
BOWKERMANIA
+ 68.1 per 150 UZR!
Almost a 7 WIN player with the glove alone
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2009 12:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
FBAL
131.2 UZR/150. 13 WINZZZZZZZZ
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
BOWKERMANIA
Oh wait… CLASSYMANIA
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2009 12:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The 09 season has definitely exceeded all of my expectations and I couldn’t be happier about it. But knowing that we’re right in the thick of things has made it even more frustrating to watch this team on a daily basis. I thank McC for letting me know I’m not the only one on the verge of taking a bat to the Gatorade cooler after (insert Giant here) pops out to second in a 3-0 count with the bases loaded.
6 Games back
That’s pretty neat and feels much much closer than 7. Perhaps because another game and it’s 5.
I’m optimistic about the team. I don’t expect anything so won’t be disappointed. I do see that we have a legitimate chance to buck the odds and get it done because our pitching is pretty incredible.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 6, 2009 12:26 AM PDT reply actions
Even without a WS, beating the purportedly invincible Dodgers for the division title would probably make this season the third best of my lifetime.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 6, 2009 12:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Put me in this category
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
If that means another do-or-die playoff choke, I'll settle for 87-75.
Or a shoulda gone to the playoffs choke like 1998, 2001, and 2004.
Say we pick up another game on them this weekend
that’s only 5 back with a lot of time left on the clock and still 9 head to head matchups to go.
…just sayin’
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
by j14 on Aug 6, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, I’d get bragging rights over the in-laws.
Duane Kuiper: Hall Of Fame broadcaster.
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 6, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I keep looking to 1993 as inspiration...
We’re 2.5 games closer to 1st place than the Braves were on this date that year.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Aug 6, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Rays of Hope
Cinderella story, stunning, shocking, unbelievable, extremely lucky – words that were likely uttered when the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays won the ALCS Game 7 and advance to the World Series in their first playoff appearance, ever.
I was actually on a plane over maybe Kansas at that exact moment when I was listening live on XM radio, hearing the last out and the the wild celebrations going on in Tampa. I thought to myself, “Good for the Rays knocking off the defending champ, maybe it’ll be the Giants’ turn soon.” Of course, Tampa has a young and talented team with an offense that makes the Giants’ offense look real bad in comparison but I believe the Giants have the chemistry, superb pitching and drive to succeed in the playoffs once they get there.
I was optimistic before the season, predicting Cain will win the CY and the Giants will break the playoffs-less streak. I was even more optimistic when they scored 10 runs on opening day. I stayed optimistic through the first 0-6 SoCal road trip, 1-5 “losing by a run” Petco-Safeco disaster, the Angels’ sweep at AT&T and then the 3-7 post-All Star road trip.
Now, let’s chase and takeover those Dodgers like it’s 1997 – except with maybe Pablo doing the pirouette this time.
Win the inning.
another great post Grant
Great analogy… the “mama paint you pretty now” line almost caught me as off guard and creeped me out almost as much as it would have if that actually happened.
Thing A
I'd like to give a big thanks to MCC as well
You guys have really elevated my fandom and have made it way more fun to watch the Giants this year. I’ve been a fan all my life and have watched games religiously, but after immersing myself into this blog I’ve discovered all sorts of amazing things about the team, the prospects, how to use OPS+, UZR, WAR, BABIP, FIP, etc. and it’s made this Giants season a really special one for me.
you know what it is to be a giants fan? it’s knowing how that analogy was going to end before you got there. Well, maybe not KNOWING… I mean the pig entrails part (it’s not like we’re Red Sox fans pre-2004), I didn’t see coming, and the clown makeup caught me off guard (we’re not Cubs fans either), but just that sneaking suspicion that something very, very bad is lurking just around the corner. Being a Giants fan is all about wanting to run full speed ahead towards that light at the end of the tunnel, because deep down you’re sure that this is really it this time. But there’s still that nagging voice at the back of your brain that’s telling you there might be someone hiding in the dark of that tunnel, waiting to club you over the head when you’re just one step away from the light.
That’s why I want to take it slow with this team. Sure, maybe they’ll make it all the way to the end of the tunnel this year and I won’t be prepared to be quite as exuberant as I should be. Maybe that’s like a great relationship that got off to an awkward first-date start. But even if the first date sucks, you’ve still got the girlfriend of your dreams. The alternative of the woman coming from behind the curtain dressed… unexpectedly simply isn’t worth the risk. The team will do what it will do, no matter how caught up I’ve let myself become.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Aug 6, 2009 1:51 AM PDT reply actions
You know for all my pithy negative moaning, I have to own up to a remarkable personal post-season history. So remarkable it looks a lot like BS, but hand to the bible, here are all the postseason Giants games I’ve ever attended:
1962 Tiebreaker series with Dodgers, Gm1 1st game I ever attended. Koufax knocked out in the 2nd inning. Hah!
1962 Tiebreaker Series, Gm 3 Rarest of all sights — Cepeda with a clutch AB wins it.
Game 2, 1962 World Series Sanford throws a masterpiece, McCovey homers
1971 Playoffs, Gm 1 A rolicking crowd, another McCovey HR. It was awesome . Apparently Giants thought it was a one game series.
1987 Playoffs Gm 1 One flap down.
And game 4 One flap down again! I could taste the World Series.
1997 Gm 3The one blotch in my portfolio. Damn you Marlins!
2002 Division Series Gm 4. Oftentimes this year I close my eyes during Aurilia ABs and think of his HR in this game.
2002 Championship Series Gm. 4 Benito!
2002 World Series Gm 5 I was so sure….
Well I think the conclusion here is pretty clear. I need to be in attendance at all Giants post-season games. GIT R DUN GINATS BRASSS!
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
I think Roger is referring to a game 3 tie breaker. Without raiding B-R I would guess that doesn’t happen even once a decade.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I see. Do they still do 3 game tie-breakers? Of course I remember our 1 game tiebreaker with the Cubs, but that was for the wild card.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I don’t think so yet I am feeling too lazy to confirm or deny it.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
I found this 2003 Press Release re: Tiebreaker rules. It looks like if two teams tie for the division but are behind the wild card from another division then they have a one game playoffs.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Actually, you were quite right the first time — I was taking a snarky shot at Cepeda’s perceived anti-clutchness. Before he ran off to win an MVP for the Cards, Orlando was considered the king of the meaningless HR (down by 5 or more runs and Cepeda was coming up in the 8th or 9th was an absolute 100% guarantee of a solo HR).
However, granted the 3 game tiebreaker is a pretty unusual sight. Strangely, this was an NL only concept. When Cleveland and Boston tied for the AL pennant in ’48, they just had a one game tiebreaker.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
the 3-game tiebreakers were before divisional playoffs were started, so it was always for the pennant. Same thing happened in 1951. They also did a 3-game playoff situation after the 1981 strike, but that was special circumstances as it was the first half vs. 2nd half winners (iirc)
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
hmm… I’d like to hear more about that 1951 3-game playoff. Did it end in exciting fashion?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
sure did. you might even say the whole world heard about what happened.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I left the CF food court in time to see him hit the HR to the exact spot I was standing at only seconds before
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 7, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
2002 Championship Series Gm. 4 Benito!
I’ve been attending Giants games since 1963, but that’s the only postseason game I’ve ever been to in person. Easily the most wonderful, magical Giants game I’ve ever attended. I was with my two brothers and my Mom (the day before her 82nd birthday). Sat down the third base line, about ten rows up from the Giants bullpen mound.
Three things I’ll never forget about that game:
- Craning my neck to see Benito’s moonshot soaring straight overhead, and watching it hang in the sky for an eternity, like a Ray Guy punt. I remember, in that moment, my heart and my head having an argument about which side of the fence the ball would land. So glad my heart was right.
- The heart-stopping ninth inning. It was Robb Nen at his most heroic. Striking out the leadoff hitter, only to have him reach on a wild pitch. Vina, the would-be tying run, stopping at third on Edmonds single. Then Nen, with (as it turns out) little more than half a ligament holding his shredded shoulder together, striking out Pujols and Drew to end the game.
- The entire stadium rocking like nothing I’ve ever experienced before or since. My brothers, my Mom and me bouncing up the stairs to the concourse, with my Mom giving high fives to people along the aisle as we ascended.
Best game ever!!
Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??
So yeah
I haven’t been following the team nearly as closely as you guys, but I do vaguely remember 97, I remember 02 VERY well, and vaguely remember 03 also. It’s so much more satisfying to have this team be successful when I’m actually paying close attention to them. Since I started REALLY caring about sports in about 2004, I haven’t had any one of my teams (9ers, Giants, Wild) demonstrate even this level of success. The Wild have made the playoffs, but LOL hockey and they were eliminated immediately.
This team is TWELVE EFFING GAMES OVER .500 IN AUGUST. That is unbelievable to me. At this point, I go into every single game thinking the Giants at least have a CHANCE to win, even when Zito or the 5th pitcher is starting. Yesterday, when YEAH JOEY put us in a 3-0 hole, I didn’t feel like I had to turn the game off like I have SOO many other times on the road. I certainly didn’t expect 10 runs, but the point is that now the offense is at least capable of climbing out of holes, and the pitching and defense is so good that we’re STILL under 400 runs allowed- way way WAYYY below the next best team.
I would so love them to keep this up, because It’s been so long since I’ve experienced one of my teams being in the playoffs that I’ve completely forgotten what it’s like. Also, being at this place while it’s happened has made it that much better.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
As much as I have enjoyed talking about this team with the McCoven, I have found that the most joy that this team brings me is when I talk about them to my good friends who are casual friends. There is nothing better than getting asked “so how are the giants doing?” and being able to talk about the gospel of tim, matt, panda and co. If this team does go far, the best part about it will be talking about it, both on here and in everyday life, and that isn’t something we have been able to say in the past 5 years.
oh, and… SUCK IT RUSSELL MARTIN
Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!
I want to believe but it will take more road wins to convince me.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Wronghanded Affeldt pitches right
by Giant among Angels on Aug 6, 2009 6:46 AM PDT reply actions
Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
I’m enjoying this season, but I’m keeping a safe distance from raising my expectations
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions
You know... (The "You should all probably skip this since it's so long" edition)
I can’t really argue against either side since they’re both totally valid, and that’s why this is one of the more interesting parts of being a Giants fan (or a sports fan in general — to me, anyway): why do we still love our teams when they suck and we feel like we hate them?
I’ve been a Giants fan for as long as I can remember (I’m 31 now, but my dad’s been following them since the Mays days — he brought me into this ). So I’m used to the good Giants stuff, and I’m used to the bad too. What I think everyone can relate to in the end is how much of a tease every winning season has been. This is true of not just the Giants but I think of any sports team in general when it doesn’t win a championship.
So how do you respond to the tease? Yes, I know this team is not built as well as it could be. It doesn’t fit the championship mold, and because of that we’re feeling like we’re doomed to another wasted year. A lot of stuff has happened this year (and maybe more importantly in previous years) that has led to the team being built this way, which just makes it worse. And yeah, all of that can make me pretty pessimistic at times because I just want to see this damn team win a championship at some point, the sooner the better.
But it’s always a long season, and for me the championship isn’t the ultimate goal. We aren’t Yankees fans, for cripessakes. For me it’s about waiting out the offseason and following the rumors. It’s opening day. It’s going to/watching as many of the games as possible. It’s talking with other fans. It’s having these conversations (really helped by this site, by the way, since I moved cross-country a few years ago). I love how each and every game reminds me of all of this somehow.
And you know, I’m going to choose to enjoy this team as it is because, well, this is how it is. It’s not going to be different for the rest of the season (and probably not too different in the coming seasons). It’s a fun team right now compared to recent years (and my expectations going into the year). I think they can win ballgames, and I think if you squint at the rest of the season funny they could even make it to the playoffs.
Which all sounds SUPER pollyanna and kind of dumb. Of course I want them to win, but I have no real way to balance team success with enjoyment other than to know that I’m having a good time right now. And that’s how I feel about sports in general.
Great post, Grant, mostly because it really got me thinking. I thought I had a good point to make when I started here, but now I’m pretty sure I sound like a rambling moron. Ah well. Posting anyway. Sorry for the long brain dump/kind of wanky post, everyone. Didn’t seem appropriate to set up a fanpost/shot given the main page posting.
by sakbaum on Aug 6, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Until the final out is made in the WS and the giants are in the locker room spraying champagne on each other, I will never get completely caught up with this BUT it is exciting to watch this team, the standings, the scoreboard, etc. Too many decades of failure and near-success to cash out my stock and buy into this but it’s a fun ride.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
Actually fuck that, this is fun. Just best the Dodgers for the division and this season will be incredible. It’s already exceeded my expectations by far.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
that motivational poster from last season, something like “You never expected to be having this much fun with this group.” applies moreso this season.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
hahaha yes I loved that one.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I tried searching for that image for 20 minutes but I'll let someone else find it.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Nominee for Image of the Year (GDT)
still makes me lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Aug 6, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL at the guy who probably tells people that he gets mistaken for Johnny Depp alot.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
But actually gets confused a lot for Stellan Skarsgaard
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
or aaron rowand
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Aug 6, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He does look like a poor man’s Aaron Rowand.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, this one!
Woohoo
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I still think the guy on the right is related to Lars…
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
its exactly how i pictured you!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
GIS "McCovey Chronicles"
And you’ll get a lot of good ones.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I truly laughed loudly while reading this post, Grant. My seven year old daughter was within earshot, however, and naturally asked what I was laughing at. There was no way to explain. I heard myself say “When you’re older” for the first time in my parenting career.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Aug 6, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions
As long as we still see hit and runs with runners at the corners with less than 2 outs or Velez misplaying about every ball hit to him in left field (i know, he is hot at the plate and we have nowhere else to put the Ironglove), I will not feel completely comfortable.
That said, we are 12 games over .500. Who da thunk?
by CrispinGloversBalls on Aug 6, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions
Sure I'm optimistic
I just hope they don’t lose tomorrow.
Worry you not
Tomorrow is Timmy Day and they’re playing at home. All is well.
Crap. I think I just jinxed it.
yeah really.
could be a good sign facing a pitcher named “homer”
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I love this season. It’s been a terrific roller coaster. This post seems oddly like the “Are you In” fanpost though…
Aside, I must say what an amazing site McC is. Not only for its great (ego inflate go) writing, but the legion of Giants fans here that are a blast to converse with and share our passion with. Even though we are a bit on the pessimistic side, we are all still very friendly, funny, and sensible people. Except Xanthan.
By far this is the best Giants site I have come across and I am glad my friend directed me to you guys at the beginning of this year.
warranted optimism
sure beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick
pass me the ism so i can get ismized
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 6, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions
I'm in
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Continuing Grant's analogy
this season feels like deciding to go out and have fun with the younger sister of a friend to just hang out and have fun, but it goes way, way better then you expected and the date is fantastic. But, unlike most of the previous dates, there is no expectation to score (Giants offense) and nothing goes wrong (Giants pitching), so you don’t have to go all the way with her on the first date (Playoffs/World Series). So I’m just sitting back, enjoying everything, knowing that there will be future dates (young players, a farm system) coming.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
And continuing your continuation of that analogy...
So while you perceive that you “know” that there will be future dates, any number of unexpected things happen— the other person gets some random disease or injury that diminishes ability, or she’s in an accident (by definition unforeseeable), or she loses whatever talent made her special, or or or.
I think our dating window is a little smaller than some people think.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah dude, any guy worth his salt knows
You’ve gotta strike while the Iron is hot – there is no time like the present.
Waiting is for pussies.
by FairweatherFan on Aug 6, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It was this exact line of thinking that led to our killing the farm system in the years of Bonds. The whole “eff it, we’ve got to win NOW for the best player on the planet, let’s put all our eggs in the veteran savvy basket” thing didn’t quite work out, though, did it? The beauty of this Giants’ team and system is that even if we drop the current basket of eggs (this year), there are still more for next season and beyond.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Aug 6, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Please. Nobody is saying "WIN NOWW AT ALL COSTZ"
That’s a total strawman. But there is what appears to be a complacency and unfounded certainty that the Giants will just automatically start dominating from 2011 throughout the 20teens that shows up around here from time to time.
Chances at the postseason are not to be taken lightly, etc. Nothing is assured about our future. There is no one single Right Way that we Must Construct A Winning Season with Organic Home Grown products at all positions, and Until We Can do it Organically, then It is Impure. Nonsense. (Forgive the A.A. Milne capitalization— been reading lots of Winnie the Pooh to my son for a few months.)
I think the current approach is just about right— we have done a good job of building, and then made some sensible trades mid-season to patch some holes. This approach neither privileges the ’Let’s Wait 3 Years Until We Develop Our Own Starters, nor blows up the future for the sake of a chance now.
(Side topic: I would argue that the reason the Win Now program in Barry’s final years did not work wasn’t because the philsophy was wrong, but that the execution of it was doomed to failure. They tried too many times to capture the lightning in the bottle that was Ellis Burks in 2000. Marquis Grissom was never going to be Ellis Burks’s bonus offensive contribution in 2000, for instance. If they really wanted to put the players around BLB to win the thing, then they should have come up with the $ for the right free agents, not kept trying to do it at the bargain basement. The execution was wrong.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Pussies wait?
They were never there by the time I arrived…
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like my experience
Most of my dates contract an incurable case of stupid, much like the Giants.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Continuing your continuation of Grant's analogy, but different from the Mayor's
Right now, this season (for me) is like going out with the younger sister of a lady friend, but a lady friend who’s somewhat more than just friends and might very well become more than more than just a friend. And you’re confused about which way you should feel because you feel like you should only feel one way or the other, but you know if you try to go half and half, you’ll end up with the two bad halves (our offense still is poor and our system got weaker) and neither of the good halves (we have a better chance at making the playoffs and our farm system is still not that bad).
So I still don’t know how I feel.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
(still trying to figure out which is the bad half of the friend or her sister)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, if I were (in a hypothetical and completely theoretical situation) to give my feelings for one, the other one would be hurt. And if I tried to balance out my feelings on both of them, chances are that we all might end up being just friends, but it’s more likely I’d end up losing two friends.
How that relates to the team? Ummm…
Something like: I should feel happy that we have a better offense (optimistic) despite the offense still looking pretty horrible (pessimistic) and I should feel fine that our system is still not that bad (optimistic) even though we gave up two of our top four arms (pessimistic). But for some reason, I can’t get over the fact that our offense still is bad and our “pitching depth” (which I wasn’t too high on in the first place) has been hit hard. So instead of being optimistic/optimistic or optimistic pessimistic, i’m being optimistic pessimistic
I’m still not sure that makes sense.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
So, you're saying that the bad half is the half that eats?
(Milton Berle joke, I believe.)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mean to date you...
But who’s Milton Berle?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
No worries-- you have no chance with me.
In ancient times when Dinah Shore ruled the earth, Milton Berle was a comedian. Mid-20th Century.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
:D:
Old comedians are old, though everytime I see an infomercial for one of those compliation DVD’s for the Dean Martin Show or Johnny Carson’s stuff, i crack up.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
some of the old stuff is absolutely brilliant
The entire “too soon” meme traces to Johnny Carson, in the early 1970s. He made some joke about Abraham Lincoln that wasn’t very funny, so the audience didn’t really react. He looked at Ed McMahon and said, “Too soon,” which brought down the goddamn house.
A lot of those old bits are pure comic genius. Also to go even older schooler, check out the old Harold Lloyd silent films (“the Freshman” and “Safety Last”). Very funny. Still.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
link fail
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Great stuff
Statler & Waldorf heckling Milton Berle! Hysterical.
Maybe one of the year-end McCovey Chronicles award categories should be Best Statler and/or Waldorf— lots of candidates around here.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
Rockies vs. Phillies on MLB Network
Of course Cliff Lee gives up a run in the first after dominating the Giants
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Cliff LOLee
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I just say Cliff LOL
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
But the Phils strike back with a run in the first off a Rollins lead-off double
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
THEY TIED THE INNING
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Were did this win the inning come from? Is this the WFMLBB (World Federation of MLB Boxing)?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that the same bip who used to do the on field reporting like 5 years ago
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
in bip’s world yes… he started talking about the giants winning innings sometime in this series, and it stuck here, cause he’s a moron (bip, that is)
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Fixed.....
he started talking about the giants winning innings sometimenonstop in this series, and it stuck here, cause he’s a moron (bip, that is)
yes, thanks… not to be redundant, tho
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
thanks!
Tuned in just in time to see Phillies tie it. Woo00t, I believe is the, um, “word.”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
We already broke one long dry spell with the no-no by Jonathan, so I say it is time to break another long dry spell and forget that the Indians and Cubs have longer dry spells and there is no rule that their dry spells must end before the Giants’ must end.
by APGiantsFan on Aug 6, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And another dry spell with Lincecum
Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.
Unfortunate Rectum Face slipped while running down the line on a grounder to 2nd. He went into the clubhouse as soon as he got back into the dugout.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
all in
Fun season is fun
Bowkermania is back again, brother...for real this time.
by rightcenterfielder on Aug 6, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
My sister is leaving for Reno in an hour.
I gave her $100 to bet on the Giants to win the world series.
Odds are 33-1 at the moment. I really wish I had done it at the beginning of the season when they were 100-1.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
MLBtv crawl just said dusty baker will remain Reds manager in 2010
Surprisingly, I am a little relieved— just that much more security that a wave of nostalgia won’t sweep the Giants FO and bring him back here.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
Assuming we fired Bochy
Who would you want? Decker, maybe?
by Giantsfan4life on Aug 6, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, the usual list
Ron Wotus (IF it can be determined that he actually cares about things like OBP and # of pitches per plate appearance), Decker maybe, a 35-year-old clone of Sparky Anderson, and so forth. I just want someone who can strategize during the game, keep things cool during the 21 hours per day that aren’t the game, and who values OBP and #P/PA, and would manage the pitchers intelligently.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Bochy!!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
That’s the guy who manages the other Giants, right?
That’d be cool.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Sadaharu Oh or officially Wang Chenchih (Chinese: 王貞治; pinyin: Wáng Zhēnzhì, Hepburn: Ō Sadaharu, born May 20, 1940), is a former baseball player and manager of the Yomiuri Giants in Nippon Professional Baseball and is the former manager of the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks. He holds the world record for home runs in a top league, having hit 868 in his career. He is also known as the first person to be awarded People’s Honor Award.
If memory serves Josh Gibson hit slightly less than 800 HR?
Well, I think the thing they always say with Gibson (as with Paige) is no one knows the totals because records were not as meticulously kept.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
But legend has it
That he hit well over 900.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Oh, I’m already sold. Eight hundred, nine hundred, one thousand. He was arguably the most feared hitter of all time.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
didn’t the yomiuri giants play in a small park though. not that it matters but yeah..
i loved how barry was all “good for sadaharu oh” during that press conference after he broke the mlb record and someone brought up oh.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonds
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess you could say I believe. Today I’m putting the first installment of savings away for a trip to SF for the playoffs. It will be my first time in SF and, of course, my first game at the phonebook.
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Trip will probably be very short.
OT: Assuming I can get it in; what is the one thing I should see (other than the game) while I’m in town?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Sam Wo
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
mmmm Chines Food
thanks!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Overrated. I’ll take good old fashioned Vietnamese food from a noodle house anyday.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 6, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Not for tourists.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Egg drop soup nazi
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Sam Wo – that’s the place you walk through the kitchen and sit upstairs right?
I ate there my last trip to S.F. – I thought the food was great
LOL Yelp Review
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM SAM WO!
IT’S MINE!
I don’t want you lousy low-lifes coming near my new favorite Chinese restaurant. I want it all to myself. I want the mama-san waitress to think only of me, to yearn for me in my absence and celebrate my arrival like the second coming of Christ. I want the old man chopping unrefrigerated chicken in the kitchen/entrance to create his heavenly dishes solely for my pleasure.
They have a dumbwaiter…that’s worth five stars by itself.
My associate and I feasted here, and when I say feasted I mean we truly feasted, like grizzlies to a mighty pacific river heavily pregnant with salmon, we feasted. And the bill came to $14. Yeah that’s right $14. $20 if you count the cost of the tall boys of Bud we purchased from the corner store for our dining refreshment. Did I mention you can bring in your own booze? That’s worth another five stars right there.
I SAID BACK OFF
I am a jealous lover, completely unwilling to share my baby with another. Even if Sam Wo was into it, I would not be willing to share our love with another consenting Chinese restaurant.
They say our love is wrong. That Sam Wo and I are just two crazy kids without a clue who are too young to even know what love is. But they are wrong, and if we can’t live together then we will die together, in each other’s arms…forever!
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
NO WAY!!!! thats funny
I ate there last year on Fathers day…… my son loved how they brought up the food on the dumb waiter
Yosemite and a trip to the Hot Topic in Stonestown to pick up high school chicks.
/WalrusMan
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 6, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I asked last time and I don’t think remembers or cares. It just matters that it exists.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 6, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah, not hot topic
Torrid. Overweight girls are easier.
by FairweatherFan on Aug 6, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, you will probably end up seeing a penis or two
even if that’s not your intent.
by FairweatherFan on Aug 6, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
/books flight
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
DO WANT!
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
yeah patxis and zachary’s are kinda neck and neck but man i feel worked over in the wallet after a dinner at patxis. their spinach pie is delicious though, and they have Big Daddy on tap!
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, you know what’s interesting, the guy that started Patxis worked or something at Zachary’s so he started that business Patxis, but yea it’s expected, chicago style pizza’s expensive, but worth it! Half-baked
this thread has made me hungry as hell.
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 7, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Pizza should probably not be the ONE THING you get while in the Bay Area. That’s sort of like recommending seafood on a trip to Kansas City.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Things SF lacks:
1. Good Pizza
2. Decent Buffalo Wings
3. GREAT Chinese food. (I’m going to get nailed for this one, I’m sure)
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Have you tried the place in Japantown?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
they have good wings?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
lol, good Chinese food anyway
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Have you tried Zante’s? Order some tikka masala for dipping and be prepared to need a change of pants!
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
I agree strongly with the first two and DISAGREE strongly on the 3rd.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
What Chinese restaurant in SF would you consider great? I’d love to try it.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
所谓，大家都很知道的〔常含轻蔑意
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I had dim sum for the first time recently
Damn good. It may have been one of the good places, but I wouldnt be able to tell anyway. Somewhere in Chinatown
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
It’s not great but Dragon CIty (or whatever, I don’t remember the English name for it) on Taraval can be really good.
hey! i live on taraval.. where is it?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
ahh, right down the street, thanks!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Eric’s on Church St in the Noe Valley area is really good.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Been there. I agree it’s really good, but I have yet to find a GREAT Chinese restaurant in SF. We are fortunate to have a ton of good ones, though.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
It’s not in San Francisco, but in Richmond (the bit of Richmond that sticks down into El Cerrito along the freeway, lest you fear getting shot), there’s an Asian shopping plaza built around the 99 Ranch supermarket. There’s a Chinese restaurant in there there I can’t remember the name of, but we went recently and it’s great. Some of the best Chinese food I’ve ever had (my late grandmother-in-law’s cooking excepted).
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Actually, it can also be fairly hard to find a decent cheesesteak as well, though I haven’t been totally exhaustive in my searches in the past.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
does one exist?
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The Cheesesteak Shop at 1716 Divisadero in SF
And, I think, a few other locations around the Bay Area. FANTASTIC
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to the one in Pleasanton, and it was acceptable, but not great.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
There are several great chinese restaurants in the SF and Bay Area for various disciplines of Chinese cooking, if you actually want real Chinese food and not some orange chicken garbage.
this is where you provide some examples, please
I would kill for a well prepared plate of jiaozi.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
I’m going to try those places and get back to you.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
I really should read all the replies. San Tung is the place I am referring to. (name translates to Mountain East so you know it’s gotta be good right)
Shandong?!
I’m practically there already. Very underrated cuisine region.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
what’s the specialties?
I’ve never eaten Taiwanese style dishes before.
Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.
There is one place on Irving
That is pretty authentic. I don’t know the English name. I should know because my grand parents were originally are from the “mountain east” province in China, famous for the Jiao Zi.
My wife also makes some excellent Zong Zi, come over sometime ;p
One of the better chinese restaurants in SF Chinatown (and probably the most expensive since they do try to cater to western customers a little)
http://www.yelp.com/biz/r-and-g-lounge-san-francisco
For a more reasonably priced restaurant, I like Chun King (but you have to know cantonese to ask for stuff that’s not on the menu to get some of the better dishes)
http://www.yelp.com/biz/chung-king-restaurant-san-francisco
For decent dim sum or a better dinner experience, and a great view of the san francisco bay, this restaurant along Emeryville’s marina is a nice place to take guests from out of town:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/hong-kong-east-ocean-seafood-restaurant-emeryville
Oh man it’s been too long since I went to Zachary’s.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sordough chowder bowls
You locals may laugh , but I’m craving. Seriously.
NL West TempestTeapot
Nothing matters , and what if it did?
by victor frankenstein on Aug 6, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The look on his face made me LOL
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
How about a base hit?
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
I would like for Chase Utley to be traded to the Giants.
I would also like if Brancdon Crawford became a SS version of Chase Utley
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
So, we don’t all collectively hate Chase Utley after the Philly series, right?
Because I’ve always liked Chase Utley.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Living in Philly he is the one Philly I like (other than Pedro)
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he is a bit of a douche, actually. I’d still want him on my baseball team.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Your sig is fooling me. I keep on seeing ! after all your comments and keep thinking “Wow, Natto is excited today”
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to Cookyman? He’s probably taking one of those monthlong vacations they get in civilized countries.
Apparently he hasn’t posted in roughly 3 weeks. I hope he’s OK…
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I like him quite a bit.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
My GF keeps joking shes gonna have his kids
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, she's not joking
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
If she said Cole Hamels I would be worried, b/c we know where he lives:
Utley, I am not so sure of
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
gonna bust a Nutley
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
(trying to find delicate way of saying she's not joking)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s kind of greasy but I think he’s hot anyway. IDK.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Hotter than Pat the Bat?
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
He looks like he slathered on baby oil before taking this picture… ugggh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Fixed
He looks like he slathered on baby oil before taking this picture…uggghyummy…..
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
He was infamous around here for picking up girls at the bar. He also was spotted wearing a jacket that had “Pat the Bat” on the back of it
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I want that jacket.
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
It’s good because pat is also a verb.
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
THAT’S WHAT SAY HEY NATION’S GF SAID!
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
MY LOVE IS COMPLETE
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Funny that you bring this up
I am working from home today because they are moving my office again.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I have my reasons for hating Utley, before this series.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet that's 11 words you never thought you'd say
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Howard needs to stpo vacuuming
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh? That IS eleven words.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe in some delunsional video ga….shit
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
GAG!!!! Phillies announcere just said Pedro Feliz used to protect BLB
He must mean when they went out to nightclubs and stuff.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
The Dodgers are vulnerable and failed to upgrade
they are well suited to win over the season, but not in the playoffs.
Giants addressed their weaknesses, and have two aces. Dodgers have none.
I think Nate is key; if he can come back strong, the Giants can win the division.
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
Billingsley is an ace and Kershaw is legit
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
For the record I definitely want Agent Ned to trade those 2 not just out of the division but out of the league.
Bilingsley has pitched out of the 6th once since June. Out of the 5th twice ( barely). Kershaw has done better ( out of the 6th twice since June, 3 times since May and out of the 5th 5 times since June) and is throwing the most innings this season he has on any level. Not exactly "ace" in 2009 credentials there.That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
He’s been bad lately, but he’s still an ace
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
Sure he is a Top of the Rotation type. But an Ace in 2009? I am not buying it. Kind of like the differnce between Brain Wilson and a young Rivera or Nenn.
That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.
He hasnt been pitching like an ace, but in my mind he is still an ace.
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
That’s just because most pitchers look like aces when they face the Giants current lineup.
by CrispinGloversBalls on Aug 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats more do to Joe Torres S&M treatment of his BP
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s been meh lately but dude is a good pitcher.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Kershaw is on pace to throw about 25-30 more innings than he did last year. In 2008 he pitched nearly 50 more innings than he had the year before in his first full pro season. He’s still only 21 years old. I’d be surprised if he didn’t tire at some point. If you figure that the Dodgers make the playoffs, then he’ll throw more innings there, too, so the club might be more careful with him due to his age and usage.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
We have discovered a weakness in the dodgers and the time has come to attack.
Many value-priced medium grade spies from Botha died bringing us this information. [Pause for wistful moment, reflecting the end of her hot Bothan boning XXX action.]
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what just got my heart pumping.....
NLCS, Giants and Dodgers. Bottom of the ninth in LA and Wilson comes in to save a 1 run game……
Open Game Day Beat the Rox Thread
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
Any predictions on how our series in Philly Sept. 1-3 will go?
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Taking one of those games would be great.
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 6, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Niners
Anybody else hear about the crap Crabtree is thinking about doing? Saying he’s thinking about holding out all year and just re-entering the draft for 2010, wow, i think it’s just a ploy for the niners to budge. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4381335
negotiating ploy
his football career is pretty much over if he sits out the year
He will have less leverage next year compare to this year, and all it will do is guarantee him less money, while being one year older. Cause the team that drafts him can pretty much tell him to suck it if he wants to sit another year.
I think some team would end up taking him high next year(ala Mike Williams)
but he’s not going to be a productive football player ever again.
well I agree he will get picked next year, I’m just saying when he gets picked next year, the team can offer him half of what the niners are offering and say : take it or leave it and he has ZERO leverage at that point. No way he holds out another year.
This is the most amount of money he will ever see. Suck it up chump.
it should be noted that the 49ers since the new front office took over in 05
Alex Smith, Vernon Davis, Manny Lawson, Patrick Willis etc etc, all were signed before training camp and were all paid well. This clearly falls on the Crabtree camp.
big time grammar fail
I have no idea what I thinking when I was typing in the bold.
The 49ers have never had any problems signing free agents or draft picks before this Crabtree fiasco.
To be fair, Crabtree is not saying those things, it’s his advisor*.
*Advisor also happens to be a relative, friend, and apparent dumbass
All Star BITCH
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I made a fanshot for Opposition Games
I think we should make these every day instead of hijacking the normal posts with game comments. What do you guys think?
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/8/6/979886/open-opposition-gamethread-8-6
With malice towards the Dodgers
It would help cut down on the OT comments on Grant’s threads, although he’ll probably be sad that there aren’t as many comments.
haha well I was thinking he probably didnt want all the OT comments here? I don’t know. We don’t have to make a separate one
With malice towards the Dodgers
casually cruel Natto is casually cruel
(doing that right?)
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Grant from McC is going to start making posts each week about Hugh Grant and there is worry that people will post too many OT comments not pertaining to the English actor.
With malice towards the Dodgers
Open Hugh Grant Appreciation Thread?
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Just as long as there is NO baseball comments. Unless Hugh Grant is going to be in some zany love story baseball movie
With malice towards the Dodgers
Who IS going to play Grant in the inevitable McCovenball movie? I hope great minds are putting some thought to this.
Brad Pitt
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
FLAGRANT butt kissing
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, now he doesn't get to play Billy Beane
He’ll have to settle for the next 800th next best option.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
FAN SITE LINK HUGH GRANT TO GIANTS
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
WALK OFF ROMCOM
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out
Some of the posts will be about how Grant & Hugh Grant apply to foundations for research money.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I love this idea. Game threads for a non-Giants game you’re not watching are the most boring thing in the history of mankind.
good idea
I’ve thought that the Sunday night games usually deserve a special thread for making fun of Joe Morgan and Steve Phillips.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 6, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This was NEVER supposed to be the Giants' year...
Just enjoy it for what it is. FUN! I mean…. HOLY SHUTOUTS!
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
IN BED
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
OT: Tiramisu > Pie and Cake
Discuss
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
Yes.
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 6, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Tiramisu > (Cow pie or AJ Pie-rzynski)
Otherwise tiramisucks compared to a nice pie.
And yes, Cow pie = AJ Pie-rzynski.
the only sweets I eat are sour patch kids…so I don’t really know anymore :(
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
Sour patch kids aren’t sour?
Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 6, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
But... but.... but... well, those aren't sweets. Says so right in the name.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I sit corrected
It’s been decades since I tried one; I will have to test their claim.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Aug 6, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
mmmm sour patch kids
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Can’t we all just get along? They’re all delicious.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Wha….?
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on the pie
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.
GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Well you could say Cake>Pie
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
THEY DONT CUT THE PIE AT A WEDDING!
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
ENZO WAS A BAKER, THERFORE THE GODFATHER LIKES CAKE!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Pies are baked, too.
I swear to God, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 6, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Quiet! I’m using this for my argument!
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
Tiramisu > (Pie or Cake)
I think I would take piece of pie and a piece of cake of Tiramisu but might just take it over one or the other.
Simple Math
Tiramisu > other desserts
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
My wife loves her some creme brulee
I’m an ice cream guy myself
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
nah
Pie is the truth.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
After all the disappointments, I feel like I am in “recovering addict” fan mode. I just take it one day at a time, try not to get too high, nor too low. When the kids do well I can get excited and think “Wow! The Future!!” and when they screw up I just say “Well, they are kids, they’ll learn.”
Of course if it’s a veteran and his contract doesn’t expire yesterday I want to kill them…
I’m not EXPECTING anything. I’m just glad that this season we can enjoy the game more.
I’ve always said that I’m a realist when it comes to the Giants – I’m optimistic when they deserve it, pessimistic when they don’t. They really, really haven’t deserved it the last few years. Now that they’re getting better again, a couple of years before I expected, I’m finding it hard to pull myself out of the negativity of the last few seasons.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
Fun Giants Fact:
The giants lead the league in runs allowed with 393. The next closest is at 422. Whoo.
I choose to watch the Giants try to score runs. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.
Another Fun Giants Fact:
Our pitching is AWESOME!!! (howry exempted)
Now look at me. I'm wet nurse to a last-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
by zodiac_chiller on Aug 6, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
SI's power rankings has us at 7 and has a pretty cool writeup
(although inaccurate with the GB)
Yankees-Red Sox gets all of the attention, but Monday marks the renewal of the Dodgers-Giants rivalry. In over a century of meetings, the Giants hold a slight 1,157-1,134 edge, but the Dodgers currently own first place in the NL West. This year the Giants enter Thursday as NL wild card leaders and have won 8 of 10, while the Dodgers continue to lead the NL West. Imagine if these two teams met in the NLCS. Yankees-Red Sox? That is so five years ago. This would be a truly apocalyptic series, as the teams haven’t met in a postseason since the 1889 World Series, when the NL champion Giants beat the American Association champ Dodgers (or Bridegrooms, as they were known at the time) in a best-of-nine series. With a seven-game lead, it’s fair to assume the Dodgers have the regular-season crown all sewn up, but of course, we’ve made the mistake of assuming that before.
With malice towards the Dodgers
Better then the Boston Beaneaters.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: Fred "OBP and UZR, Dammit!" Lewis
GARK KNIGHT
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Cleveland Spiders
"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.
Sounds like a lame chick flick. (Made of Honor)
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on Aug 6, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In the cool part of Brooklyn Heights
there is a house (on Joralemon, maybe, for you New Yorkers) that has an historical plaque that talks about the Bridegrooms living in that house in the 1880’s. Pretty cool. Then about 5 blocks away there is a bank building, and in one of their windows is/was a fairly big sign that said “on this spot, Branch Rickey signed Jackie Robinson …” Very cool history, even if I hate the dodgers with the intensity of a thousand exploding suns.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
to make it cooler, they linked this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMa5eZE5ilE at the end of the article
With malice towards the Dodgers
More like 22nd and behind the A’s amirite
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
I'm 23
And I’ve been a Giant fan since I was six, so, that would be 1992. i remember being crushed when the BRAVES took the NL West from us, Barry’s MVP year in ‘93, Matt Williams’ assault on Maris before the strike in ‘94, Shawn Estes and the NL West Crown in ’97, losing to the Mets in the playoffs a couple of times, finally winning an NL Pennant. I love this team unequivocally and will always allow myself to hope. We’re only 6 games back from the slumping-Manny led Dodgers, and we’re hotter than a 3 dollar pistol right now. Will it result in a championship? Probably not, but who cares? Until that moment we’re mathematically eliminated from the playoffs or lose that playoff series, we’re in it. We’ve got the pitching. We’ve got the defense. Can the ground-attack come through? Freddy Sanchez is looking sparkplug-status at the top of our lineup. We’re definitely on the short list of teams you’d want to face in the playoffs because of our starting pitching. We just have to MAKE IT THERE. Why not us? Why not this year?
A Dodgers/Giants NLCS would be so fucking epic but also so potentially heartbreaking.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
But so potentially awesome too. You can’t have the best highs in life without risking the deepest lows.
Also why I do heroine
I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water
You have sex with a legendary woman?
Nice!
by The Double Deuce on Aug 6, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
oh come on. We would not be able to handle it, nor would the internet from all the comments to this site that would bring.
With malice towards the Dodgers
The games would need like 10 GDTs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
I don’t like to get ahead of what the task for the Giants are at hand, but a battle of SF vs LA for the pennant would be the greatest moment in this history of moments. Not sports moments, all moments.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I’m having flashbacks to Kings/Lakers WC Finals. Kill me now.
by kdl on Aug 6, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB umps are legit, though. Or they are really good at covering things up.
by positiveuphemism on Aug 7, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
O/T
And too lazy to do a fan shot: Per an unofficial source (Twitter), Willy McCovey will be celebrating his 50 year anniversary at McCovey’s in Walnut Creek tonight at 5.
OT: too lazy to make a fanshot
RIP John Hughes
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 6, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
too soon
"I would've been here sooner but I had to shake the Veleasels"
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 6, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS SHIT JUST GOT REAL
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
WTF...for real?
C.C. Sabathia, Yankees – Sabathia has been worth $15.6MM this year, making a $14MM salary in the first year of a deal that could pay him $161MM. Despite a drop in his K-rate, Sabathia has an ERA below 4.00 in the AL East and leads the league in starts.
This is from MLBTR describing productive FA
Minor White > Ansel Adams