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Highlights from the Giants' farm: (a) Ramon Ortiz pitched a three-hit shutout; (b) Steve Holm homered twice; (c) Buster Posey homered while reaching base three times; (d,e) Brett Pill and Brandon Crawford each homered; and (f) Nestor Rojas reached base in all four plate appearances, including a HR.

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AAA: Fresno defeated Tacoma 11-0

Fresno: DH Buster Posey: 2 for 4, HR, 2B, BB
Fresno: SS Ryan Rohlinger: 1 for 5, HR, 2 SO
Fresno: C Steve Holm: 2 for 5, 2 HR

Fresno: RHP Ramon Ortiz: 9.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 WP

Holm led off both the 3rd and 5th innings with solo HRs, his 3rd and 4th HRs in the PCL this year.  While reaching base three times, Posey connected in the 9th inning for his 1st PCL HR.  Rohlinger had his 14th HR.

Continuing to be the Grizzlies' most effective pitcher over the last several weeks, Ortiz further increased the ante today with a three-hit, complete-game shutout.  He threw 66 of 103 pitches for strikes and had a 13/10 GO/FO line while improving his season ERA to 2.48.

AA: Connecticut defeated Arkon 4-3

Connecticut: 2B Brock Bond: 0 for 5, 2 SO
Connecticut: 1B Brett Pill: 2 for 5, HR
Connecticut: SS Evan Crawford: 2 for 5, HR
Connecticut: LF Bobby Felmy: 3 for 4
Akron: C Carlos Santana: 1 for 3, 2 BB, SO

Connecticut: RHP Geivy Garcia: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 1 K--1 HB, 1 BK
Akron: RHP Jake Westbrook: 2.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--1 HR, 1 WP

While Bond had the rare oh-fer, Felmy had three hits, raising his AVG to .256; and Pill and Crawford both went deep, Pill for his 13th HR and Crawford for his 4th HR.  Santana, whom the Indians acquired a year ago for Casey Blake and who has established himself among the top prospects in baseball, reached base three times.

Garcia made just his second start of the year among 28 appearances.  He danced through the raindrops so to speak, allowing just one run despite allowing nearly two baserunners per inning.  Nor did he benefit from any GiDPs as he had a 2/10 GO/FO line.  Westbrook made his third rehab start.  He allowed 2 ER after 7.0 scoreless IP in his previous two starts.

A+: San Jose defeated Visalia 5-3

San Jose: 3B Rich Aurilia: 1 for 3, HR, HBP
San Jose: 1B David Maroul: 2 for 4, HR
San Jose: 2B Nick Noonan: 2 for 4, 2B, SO
San Jose: C Nestor Rojas: 3 for 3, HR, BB

San Jose: LHP Clayton Tanner: 6.1 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 HR
San Jose: LHP Dan Runzler: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 K

Rojas reached base in all four plate appearance, including his 2nd HR of the year.  Also homering for the Giants were Maroul with his 4th HR and Aurilia, who had 2 HRs in his five rehab games.  Along with Rojas and Maroul, Noonan also had a multi-hit line.

Tanner began the game with five scoreless innings but then allowed a run in both the 6th and 7th innings, with the latter run scoring after he had departed the game.  His ERA is now 3.16.  Runzler allowed just his second earned run in nineteen Cal League games.  For the season, he now has 16 H, 17 BB, 5 R, and 71 K in 47.2 IP.

A-: Augusta defeated Charleston 10-6
(scoring six runs in the 4th inning)

Augusta: CF Francisco Peguero: 2 for 5, 3B
Augusta: 1B Josh Mazzola: 2 for 4, 2B, BB
Augusta: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 4, BB

Augusta: LHP Eric Surkamp: 5.1 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 7 K--1 HB, 1 PO
Augusta: RHP Edwin Quirarte: 1.1 IP, 1 H
Charleston: RHP Andrew Brackman: 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 6 K

While six GreenJackets hitters had two hits each, two of them--Mazzola and Monell--reached base three times; and two of them--Mazzola and Peguero-- had an XBH, which were Mazzola's 24th double and Peguero's 3rd triple.

With 7+ K in six of his last nine starts, Surkamp continues to be among the league leaders in strikeouts.  Despite all the strikeouts, he has been more hittable than you might otherwise expect with a .272 BAA.  His ERA now stands at 3.58.  Quirarte retired four of the five batters he faced, but allowing a double to the first batter he faced allowed both inherited runners to score.  After struggling with an ERA of 6.72 through nineteen starts, perhaps the Yankee's Brackman will fare better out of the bullpen.  THis was his second relief appearance, and he struck out six of eleven batters.

ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Spokane 6-5
(allowing two runs in top of 9th inning)

Salem-Keizer: CF Evan Crawford: 2 for 4, 2B, BB, SB, CS
Salem-Keizer: 1B Chris Dominguez: 2 for 5, 2 SO

Salem-Keizer: LHP Chris Gloor: 2.1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
Salem-Keizer: RHP Kyle Vazquez: 3.2 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 K--1 WP

Crawford and Dominguez each had two of the Volcanoes' seven hits, improving their respective AVGs to .269 and .267.

Gloor faced just twelve batters in his second start (after nine relief appearances).  His ERA nearly doubled to 2.08.  Vazquez provided long relief, pitching nearly four innings.

R: Giants defeated Dodgers 2-1

Scottsdale: LF Rafael Rodriguez: 2 for 3

Scottsdale: RHP Edward Concepcion: 5.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 K--1 WP
Scottsdale: RHP Ben Wilshire: 2.0 IP, 3 K
Scottsdale: RHP Brian Irving: 1.0 IP, 2 K
Scottsdale; RHP Jason Stoffel: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 K

Batting eighth in the lineup, Raf-Rod had two of the rookie Giants four hits (all singles).  The two hits raised his AVG to .265.

Concepcion had one of his best starts of the season, facing just three batters over the minimum in six innings and striking out nearly half of the eighteen batters he faced.  Wilshire and Irving continued the dominance with 3.0 perfect IP.  Stoffel, presumably the best pitching prospect on the team, failed to complete the shutout, allowing hits to three of the six batters he faced.

DSL: Giants lost to Mets 4-1

Dominican: 3B Gilberto Almonte: 3 for 3, CS, E
Dominican: LHP Diego De La Cruz: 4.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 6 K--1 HB

Almonte (21.0 y.o.) had three of the Gigantes' seven hits, but his AVG remains below the Mendoza line.  Making his fifth start after six relief appearances, De La Cruz (20.5 y.o.) matched his season high with 6 K, although it was his first start with less than 5.0 IP.  The 3 BB also matched his season high; but allowing just one hit, he dropped his BAA below .200.

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Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 4, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?" / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Aug 5, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a strange character

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)

by CB30 on Aug 4, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Random Question

Just wondering what the distinction is regarding players’ names that are highlighted in orange?

by flyonthewall on Aug 4, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

i think it just means that they have a SBNation profile

by kezargiants on Aug 4, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you click on Noonan’s, he’s 109 years old, and he hits and throws from both sides.

by kaliber on Aug 5, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

No wonder the organization is so high on him...

…versatility AND veteran savvy!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bond D:

Also, Ramon Ortiz continues his inexorable march towards the big boys’ starting rotation, where he will be shelled.

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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs

by bondslegend on Aug 4, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions  

has anyone who has seen Ortiz noticed anything different about him or is he simply a AAAA kind of pitcher?

Thing A

by sam23 on Aug 4, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

disregard

just noticed the Ramon Ortiz fanpost

Thing A

by sam23 on Aug 4, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peguero just keeps hitting. :) Is Crawford finally gettng comfortable in AA? Daniel Runzler gives up only his second Cal League and gets the save – just keep putting him out there. Also good to see Stoffel being put in pressure situations. Will they move Rich back to Fresno when the Grizz return to town?

by APGiantsFan on Aug 4, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Peguero

Keith Law mentioned him last year as a sleeper that he liked a lot.

Fairley odd parent to Wendell
converting tools into skills since 2008...

by WTF on Aug 5, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you mean Brandon Crawford and not Evan. But, I seriously had to think for a minute what the heck Crawford’s first name was after I saw the typo. All I could recall was Carl.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 5, 2009 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought of Broderick.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought of Joan. But then again I’ve been a little “off” since the sixties.

Insert witty signature of your own choosing here.

by Flapjacks McGurty on Aug 5, 2009 8:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Looks like I wrote Evan twice. Yes, I did mean Brandon the first time—the Connecticut shortstop—but I did mean Evan the second time—the Salem-Keizer outfielder.

by steve S on Aug 5, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So who gets DFA’d when Aurilia returns to the team?

by SFGuy on Aug 5, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully Aurilia.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

They mentioned on one of the broadcasts that they were going to wait until the rosters expand to bring back Richie.

by malarky on Aug 5, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's not right

Aurilia was put on the 15 day disabled list and his appearances for Fresno and SJ were enabled per the rehab rule (ie. he didn’t have to be DFA’d to send him down). According to the rules a position player may only rehab in the minors for 20 days max. This means Aurilia must be put back on the 25 man roster, moved to the 60-day disabled list, or DFA’d no later than Aug. 18th – well before the Sept. 1st roster expansion date.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 5, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll probably “strain” his “injury”.

by SFGuy on Aug 6, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Indians actually have a player named “Carlos Santana”? That’s awesome.

by Uncle Russel on Aug 5, 2009 12:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Get used to him — he’s a big-time prospect.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 3:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better in Cleveland than the alternative.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Aug 5, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s comparable to Posey in overall quality.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 5, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

And they got him for BLAKE!

LOLDGERS!

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 5, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noticed that – thought it was pretty funny.

by flyonthewall on Aug 5, 2009 1:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Pill and Santana

Just checked – Pill leads the Eastern League in RBI’s (80), and Santana is right behind him (78).

by flyonthewall on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, Rojas has a career batting average of .195 – in the minors. Is it still called the Mendoza line down on the farm?

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 5, 2009 1:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m having visions of Richie teaching Nick Noonan how to fake bunt.

by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 3:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Where’s the dingerz, Domingerz???

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 5, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Dominguez has not looked good the last couple of games, taking 3rd strikes is becoming habit forming.

On a side note, Trebelhorn got tossed last night after a horrible call at home plate. I have not seen any SK manager get so mad in the 10 years I’ve had season tickets here. The Spokane pitcher made a tag with the ball behind him on the ground and the ump called the runner out. This is the same ump that the night before ran down the line towards first signaling foul ball and then called out the runner on the throw to first.

Our pitching was pretty ineffective, though Casilla looked good the first inning he pitched.

Gotta love minor league baseball.

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by RichH on Aug 5, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

give it up Richie

what’s with this guy? The Giants put him on the DL with a fake injury because he wasn’t needed or wanted, and that was BEFORE they got Garko. Now he’s traipsing thru A ball on a fake rehab. Face the facts and retire. You’re done and you’ve made enough money Have some pride!

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by rxmeister on Aug 5, 2009 7:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

$? Maybe he is short on cash (bad investments) and trying to make all the money he can. If he retires does het get his full contract or just the prorated amount?

Minor White > Ansel Adams

by say hey nation on Aug 5, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

he wants to hang around for the playoff run.

Randy Winn is in time out until his OBP gets back over .330.

by oldjacket on Aug 5, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s hitting WORSE in the minors than he did here in SF.

by SFGuy on Aug 6, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone notice...

Looks like the O’s called up Matsusz straight from AA. Is that right?

by capn on Aug 5, 2009 8:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Real prospect or not, that 0-5 with 2 K is actually shocking from Brock Bond.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 5, 2009 9:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

It was 3 lineouts and 2 foul tips after 10 pitch at-bats!

by I'm_a_Man on Aug 5, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be interested in seeing a list of the highest BA seasons in the minors over the last 40 years or so, just to see how many of them are by anybody we’ve ever heard of, and how many are minor league lifers. I’ve tried a few different google searches, but I can’t find anything.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Aug 5, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could never understand how someone could, or rather would, be a minor league “lifer”. If you’ve played for a decent amount of years, looks like you’re not ever going to be a prospect, and no other team wants you – move on and get a real life. These guys don’t make enough money to even pay their rent. It’s pathetic. In my opinion, just one reason why players should go to college before signing, unless you get a million bucks or more out of high school. Get most of your schooling under your belt so at least you have something to fall back on when you don’t make it.

by flyonthewall on Aug 5, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Dreams

For many players it’s tantamount to giving up a life-long dream, and the one thing they truly love to do, for an ambiguous future doing some job(s) that is boring and they don’t even like.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 5, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily true. My understanding is that players with enough time to become minor league free agents can demand a fairly good salary from teams wanting their services at the upper levels of the minors.

by steve S on Aug 5, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and they get paid for working only, at most, 6 months out of the year (I’m assuming they’re not called up to the majors in Sept.), so they have half the year to lounge around or be responsible and get a 2nd job to supplement their income (or go to college and get a degree).

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

by Fla-Giant on Aug 5, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

most have in their contract that the team will pay to complete college once their baseball career is over. AAA money is pretty good for a journeyman with even a little MLB experience.

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by RichH on Aug 6, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is the approximate salary for a guy in AAA? I think the “college package” is pretty standard in contracts now. It’s great for the college guys who are close to their degree, but for high school players (unless they get a million or more), how many of them will actually go back to college after playing in the minor leagues for say, 8 years? Not many.

by flyonthewall on Aug 7, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

From what I’m told a first year AAA guy gets around $2200/mo, not much but there are a lot of variables that factor in and if they get called up there is big dollars involved even if they’re sent back down fairly quickly. Unfortunately I don’t know specifics since the fellows I know that have been there are pretty unclear on how it’s all figured.

Also, I’m told Japan is quite lucrative to those that go. Apparently Mexico pays fairly well too, along the lines of $12k/mo first year.

Adopted father of Brian Bocock, Brad Boyer, Sharlon Schoop, Shane Jordan and Jeremiah Luster,Trey Webb and David Quinowski.

by RichH on Aug 7, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have heard the same thing.

by flyonthewall on Aug 7, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I talked with a few minor league lifers, and they both said they did it for the hope that they will get the call. As long as a guy can hit a fastball or throw strikes consistently, he feels he has a shot. It’s why a guy will go to Japan after 19 years in the minors. He wants to start every day, so he’ll take the offer that gives him the chance. It’s why a guy will become the equivalent of a company man for an organization and go wherever he is asked.

If it’s the biggest dream you’ve ever had, wouldn’t you put everything on the line for it? Pete Rose once said he’d walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball. The minor league lifers are no different.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 6, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that sense it’s really not that much different from plenty of artists or musicians that I know.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Aug 7, 2009 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that some guys will go to Japan to be an everyday starter, but from what I’ve heard, a lot of the older guys (30 – old!) will go there because they can make a couple million dollars before their playing days are done.

by flyonthewall on Aug 7, 2009 12:39 AM PDT reply actions  

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