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Making Sense of Brad Penny and the Giants

There was a post all ready about the highs and lows of sports. It was beautiful and poignant. It compared being a Giantsfan to the fall of Carthage, and it referenced John Cougar Mellancamp and James Joyce in the same sentence. You would have been amazed.

Instead, the Giants signed Brad Penny, which is one of the all-time meh moves. A week after the devastation of Ryan Spilborghs, and a day after the jubilation of Edgar Renteria, we have the uh, I guess so of Brad Penny. Joe Martinez still has a spot in the organization, but no one is questioning the decision to go with another pitcher for the last month. Penny’s probably better than the other options. A lot of the abacus twiddlin’ types like the move, and it cost nothing. The Giants aren’t going to pay Penny more than they would have paid Martinez or Ryan Sadowski, they didn’t need to trade anyone away, and with the rosters expanding, they’re not going to send anyone to Fresno who doesn’t belong.

I can get over the inherent dislike of Brad Penny pretty quickly. Sure, he’s such a goof that even Microsoft feels the need to point it out…

Star-divide

…but as others have pointed out in the last thread, we rooted for Orel Hershisher. I cheered on Orel Hershisher. That’s like sleeping with every member of a hair metal band in the beginning part of this decade. It wasn’t cool even adjusting for the different era, and just thinking about it makes me want to take a shower. Orel Hershiser. Guh.

So if the Giants squeak into the playoffs, and if Brad Penny is a part of that push, I’ll cackle with glee. And when we’re done with him after the season, the Giants have no further obligation. Take a Penny, leave a Penny!!!1 Lining up the options for the last spot in the rotation, Penny’s almost certainly the pitcher most likely to do well. The move makes sense.

Here’s the best part of the deal, though: if Penny fails – if he’s the guy who pitches the game that ruins the season – he’s a perfect scapegoat. You can’t say, "Why was Penny even starting? Why didn’t Sabean call up _____?", so you’ll just hate Brad Penny for being Brad Penny. And that’s just fine. You can’t hate Joe Martinez for being Joe Martinez. Heck, no one can hate Joe Martinez for anything. That’s why it was such a drag watching him struggle; if he were to succeed, it would have been one of the best stories of the year. Moot point, and now we’re faced with a couple of choices:

  1. Tolerate Brad Penny and watch the Giants make the playoffs
  2. Blame Brad Penny because the Giants didn’t make the playoffs

Even if he goes 4-0 with a 1.44 ERA, you can still play the "clubhouse distraction" card and blame him. It’s a no-lose proposition for the Giants. I approve.

(And, yeah, the move will probably make the team a little better than it was yesterday, and every little bit counts. That should be taken into consideration as well.)

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Hey, how about a spoiler alert next time for those of us who watch the series one season behind on DVD? Pete Campbell actually dances! Great. Thanks, pal.

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by leftymalo on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though there is a town in Alabama called Phil Campbell. I’m giving you 108 points for giving me an excuse to bring up my home state. :^)

by TheLetter2 on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve actually heard of the the town “Phil Campbell” because Dave Eggers old magazine Might did a story about people named Phil Campbell all gathering to meet each other in Phil Campbell, AL.

This explains my slip up here.

by Orwell D. Catt on Aug 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very cool. And for my money, there’s no such thing as a slip-up when the Great State of Alabama is involved.

/obnoxious homerism

by TheLetter2 on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

mmmhmmm

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a University of Utah alumni......

….. thanks for this cloudy – you just made my night!

by OTTOMATIC on Aug 31, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are plural?

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's it.

You two are in big trouble.

I kid. I take no responsibility for the football team’s performance. In fact, I share a bit of sympathy here; I work at UA, and talk of the football team gets a bit tiresome.

I defend only the state, and her honor.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 31, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

hee hee

saban deserves it

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does he have to do to get one more point?

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That didn’t take long. As soon as I saw this scene last night, I turned to my wife and said, “that will be an animated GIF on McCovey Chronicles before the end of the week.”

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too am amazed at how quickly that happened. But I like it.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Aug 31, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to turn this into a McCC "Mad Men" thread or anything...

but I think the Campbells dancing the Charleston is to show how embedded Pete is in the old establishment money—thus partially explaining how such a dweeb could be hired in the first place and contintue to work his way up the ladder. Also the fact that it’s so clearly rehearsed (something they did in college perhaps) shows how completely useless he is ‘on the fly’ and can only succeed in contrived situations. And at the very least, it gives the audience something to grab onto with regard to what Trudy ever saw in him in the first place.

Sorry…no hijack intended. I just really dig that show.

by VidaWantsYourCar on Aug 31, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to fast forward through that bit

It felt a bit novelty, like the show was trying to play up its credentials for the audience.

But realistically, what do I know?

by bobnothing on Aug 31, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

All good points

I could go on and on, but I shouldn’t — maybe McC needs an OPEN MAD MEN DISCUSSION thread somewhere.

No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball

by Skaldheim on Aug 31, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT BRAD PENNY THAT ONE THREAD CANNOT CONTAIN IT.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

JCB9 beat me to it

I can’t wait to hear all the scolding from KNBR, newspaper scribblers, etc. on how the “blogosphere” is “up in arms” about the horror…. obviously not having read through the insightful commentary, booze recipes, photoshopped fat guys, etc.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I've mentioned this before

But I still remember Orel Hershiser’s press conference when he signed with the Dodgers. He said something like:

Hi, my name is Orel, and I’m a recovering Dodger. I spent three years in rehab in Cleveland, and I’m feeling much better now.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Err, yeah. Duh.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure if you heard already (or were there), but Jenny Lewis came out and played Portions for Foxes with Conor Oberst and the Mystic Valley Band at Outside Lands. It was quite a nice surprise.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Aug 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t been to a concert all year. :( Hard to with two kids under the age of five.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last show I went to: R.E.M. at the Greek Theater with Modest Mouse and The National opening.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twas a good show. Crowd didn’t show Modest Mouse nearly enough love though.

by kezargiants on Aug 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went on the second day, and it wasn’t close to sold out – so while I got a cheap lawn seat I was able to sit quite close to the stage, albeit off to the side. whoo!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

God Modest Mouse sucks so much… Yesterday @ outside lands only further confirmed this fact…

by FairweatherFan on Aug 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you seriously

They were rivalled in piss-poor live performance only by MIA.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, MIA was pissed cause the beastie boys weren’t there, and that she was opening for tenacious d

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by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, MIA just sucks

I’m sure being “pissed” is what causes her to sing off-key

by FairweatherFan on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You really have the worst opinions.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was SFGuy’s gimmick?

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Like, really?

I can understand disagreeing with people on taste, etc. but MIA was just BAD.

Everyone I was with agreed.

by FairweatherFan on Aug 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, maybe she was bad at that show but MIA is awesome on her albums and I’ve heard she’s generally pretty good live.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw her at some tiny little venue (reminded me of a high school gym) in 2006 or so and she was awesome. She was pretty fired up to be there and put on a great show.

Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.

by dcp on Aug 31, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I love the internet. That show was the 10/5/2005 show at the Grand Ballroom.

Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.

by dcp on Aug 31, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The performance was not good, and what was with those two dudes in blue? Good gawd!

Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.

by I'm_a_Man on Aug 31, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Modest Mouse really do define lack of ambition

I forget I’m alive when I hear them. And not in a good way.

by bobnothing on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of her stuff is good, some of it is horrible. She’s hit or miss.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

One good song… and that’s probably just because it was in a movie. Probably just personal taste.
Also, I don’t think her singing voice is anything special.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

just like Shawon Dunston!

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You suck so much.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seen them twice

they kicked ass both times.

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I’d been able to go to that, pretty sweet lineup.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sad I didn’t see that.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well don’t miss this: The Mountain Goats @ The Fillmore

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Aug 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oooooh

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, that'd be awesome

I missed Ted Leo recently too.

I kinda suck at going to concerts.

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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Concerts are fun but I keep having to go by myself which isn’t so bad once the show actually starts but is boring as hell while you’re waiting.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind going to concerts alone, except that it makes me feel self-conscious about being LOL LOSER.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, pretty much.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, hey, if you do want to go to the Mountain Goats show, let me know and maybe we can work something out.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

This. My wife hates being in a small space with loud noise and a lot of people… so I don’t go to many shows anymore.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orel did a lot to redeem himself

I didn’t know about that l, but I love it.

I do remember him approaching Bonds about the two of them anteing up personally for the post-game spreads after there were complaints about it. Bonds looked at him like he was crazy, and Orel footed the bill himself. Then he later personally bought a significant Bonds HR ball from a fan and gave it to Barry.

A few years ago I was mentoring a kid at the Chinatown Y, probably the crappiest Y I’ve ever been to. On the wall was a plaque honoring Orel for having given them a bunch of money.

I have to like the guy. Even good people can be forced to wear the hated blue.

"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
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by achiappanza on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

all true

hershiser had a good sense of humor. he had that daniel in the lion’s den thing going on, too: relatively small guy, didn’t look like a giant muscleman, vaguely identifiable to underdogs and geeks. sure, i rooted for him to fall in a hole when he was with the dodgers, but it didn’t take long to warm up to him once he took the blue off.

somehow i don’t think i’ll feel the same about penny.

by trismccall on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

definitely

orel hershiser is just a cool dude, period. brad penny, on the other hand…

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard Steve Sax was so impressed with Hershiser that he named is first son after him.

.

.

(Think about it.)

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by Goofus on Aug 31, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

That blows.

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Aug 31, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orel Sax Russel Martin!

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way...

…nobody would name their kid Hershiser Sax.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec’d – laghed my ass off

by OTTOMATIC on Aug 31, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I want to see that.

^^^

Ignore, please.

by El Person on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Type-B Free Agent status makes this a pretty good move in my opinion as well.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Bringing It All Back to the Original Thread

The Type B Free Agent status Penny’s love of Nashville Skyline makes this a pretty good move in my opinion as well.

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no alcohol sub-discussion going on here. Why did you take that away from me, Grant?

Also, said it in the last thread.

He is an asshole, but he plays for the Giants and I will root for the Giants.

"This season is expecting a $10,000 bonus, actually getting $50,000 but then accidentally setting $25,000 of that on fire." - AngelWillSaveUs

by scout6 on Aug 31, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

By all accounts, Bonds was an asshole too. But I sure as heck rooted for Bonds!

Of course, the talent difference between Bonds and Penny is like the difference between a porterhouse steak and undercooked chicken.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

IRL LOL.

I thought about making this point, too, especially in light of Kent’s reappearance in Orange this weekend. Nice analogy.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Bonds was not a fat bastard.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bonds also loved the San Fran fans.

"This season is expecting a $10,000 bonus, actually getting $50,000 but then accidentally setting $25,000 of that on fire." - AngelWillSaveUs

by scout6 on Aug 31, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bonds was an asshole unless you were a kid. He was great with kids.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

by SFGuy on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pleased. That is all.

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by Andy from DC on Aug 31, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

ok I like him more now.

“Want to come back to LA?”
Penny: No.

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by FriscoJoe on Aug 31, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

doesn’t dip and doesn’t want to go back to LA +2
doesn’t drink -1

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by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he was being facetious with the whole ice water thing.

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, you would have to assume that, him being a dbag and all

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by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Subtext I saw in this:

“You have a camera, and that cannot end well for me as a celebrity, so I’m going to give you as little material as humanly possible. But fuck LA.”

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The last sentence is pretty disgusting

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only one 't.'

Only one.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hasn’t had a tin of bamboo yet. He will dip once Pablo gets a hold of him

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't see that coming

Man, definitely not a dick there. Wonder if its because he cut out the alcohol and dip?

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't dip?

How can he call himself a baseball player?

by 49er16 on Sep 1, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if the Giants make the playoffs despite Brad Penny’s best efforts to sabotage them?

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

The post game spread is in trouble

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SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Vegas has the spread at +100 lbs

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need a shower

Even thinking about rooting for Penny makes me a little ill. It is a low risk move – on that we agree. But I stil see a lot of 5 Inn 7 hits 4 runs etc. I just don’t think he has much left. And he is SUCH an asshole.

Having said that – I’ll swallow my pride and root for him every 5th day. I do worry about karma.

by lexluth7 on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m happy to have Penny but I wish we had Harden or Harang instead.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Harden -1
Harang +1

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harden’s better than Harang and not under contract for next season. What’s the problem?

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im perplexed also

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SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really liked Harang as a waiver target. He’s still really good.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

and out for the year

But if he was healthy, yeah, I’d have been all for it

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know Harang’s injured now, but Harden is injured always.

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, yeah. But we’d be getting him to be a 5th.

When he’s healthy, he can be one of the best pitchers around.
When he’s not, we can just have some scrub pitch.

So, we get a 1/2 Ace, 1/2 rookie spot in the rotation. Maybe about .500 winning percentage from that spot. I’d take that.

Plus, we could have him pitch out of the pen in the postseason if we make it.

Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club

by jwizzle241 on Aug 31, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would have to offer him salary arbitration cause you cannot explain to your fans how you let Rich Harden, type A free agent, walk away with no compensation.

he will probably accept, and then you’re stuck with a super injury risk 14M pitcher, and blow your roster payroll out of the water next year. Forget lineup improvement.

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

No part of this makes sense. Teams let good players walk away with no compensation all the time. When it’s Rich Harden, whom everyone on the planet knows is fragile as glass, it’s safe to say the fans are not going to storm Sabean’s office.

And the $14 million figure can only have come from jcb9’s ass.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it speaks volumes that nobody in the NL claimed him.

(and he gave up 5 runs today, lol)

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

or that other H guy, Haren.

by seyheystretch on Aug 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he wasn’t waived, was he?

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Albert Hpujols?

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by beat_la_25 on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hwil Hwheaton

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by delorean on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s hweird.

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hwiskey

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Aug 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

dHyslexic

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Aug 31, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

HGRAHAMCRAKALAKA

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heather Graham

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by hairball on Aug 31, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lovely woman.

In her prime, possibly as lovely as Anne Hathaway. Unfortunately, neither of them appears to dig mayors.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

mmmm

Anne Hathaway

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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never really could understand the appeal. Pretty, yeah, but a bit pointy. Kind of an inferior Audrey Hepburn, I guess.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never really could understand the appeal

…………………….what?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those Legs!

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by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly you’ve never viewed the movie “Havoc”.

by younghutch on Aug 31, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Googled it.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont get me started

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, gosh

Now you’ve got me intrigued.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did “Hot Rod” or Family guy do this schtick first?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

knowing family guy….it was probably done by some else 1st

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

This comment pleases me.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to like Family Guy

That bit with the Kool Aid guy was pure gold. all downhill from there

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

IAWTS

and IIRC that was the pilot

I swear to god, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.

by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 31, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hanley Hamirez?

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hustin Hupton?

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably not available for free

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Aug 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

True. Wonder what the Cubs demanded for Harden. The equivalent of the draft picks, I guess.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charlie Culberson is worth half a hypothetical Harden.

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
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by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trading Bocock for Harden would be good for a couple thousand dick jokes.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still surprised Harden apparently made it all the way to Minnesota – he’s not making much the rest of the season, he’s a Type A and he’s been awesome recently.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harang's out for the season...

Emergency appendectomy. He would have been my choice too, but that ship sailed on a sea of bile.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. I’ll never question Sabes’ judgment again.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

but that ship sailed on a sea of bile

sounds like game 6

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game 6 of what?

The 2002 NLCS?

^^^

Ignore, please.

by El Person on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry for not elaborating.

My wife and I played Sorry! in a best of 7 series. I was poised to win game 6 and thus the series but then pissed it down my leg. She crushed me in game 7 and crushed my hopes and dreams for boardgame history. In hindsight, perhaps claiming the dice we were using as a trophy in game 6 was somewhat of a jinx.

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only Felix Rodriguez hadn’t drawn the “sorry” card, you would’ve had it

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bile be seeing you, in all the old familiar places.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. I hope Timmy’s had his out already. That would suck so bad. Oh wait, he’s bionic, it’s OK.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Aug 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m fairly sure that Harang exploded immediately after facing the Giants.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeez, the Giants were kind of a DL-jinx for other teams this month, huh?

Harang: splat
Wright: splat
Fowler: splat

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats not quite the sound they made

but ya, I guess

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t want Harden. He spends more time on the DL than J.D. Drew.

by 49er16 on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

New side-track conversation topic

Since there’s no game tonight, what are y’all doing?

I think I’m going to hop BART into San Francisco after work gets out and make a trip to Amoeba. There’s no game, my wife and kids just went out of town, and I got paid today, so it seems the perfect time to go spend too much money on music.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I went to Rasputin a couple days ago. I got a Nick Cave album (BECAUSE OF YOU JPONRY) and a Gram Parsons collection.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have Let Love In and Dig Lazarus Dig!!! by Nick Cave. Both good, but I think I like Let Love In better.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a bunch, but the one I just got was The Boatman’s Call.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

HIS BEST BEST BEST ALBUM

BEST

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not exactly the same, but sort of....

I like his soundtrack for The Assassination of Jesse James.

by jewbacca on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LLI is his second most overrated album

after Murder Ballads.

That’s ok though because it’s still awesome.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a huge fan of his albums, but Nick Cave live = religious experience.

Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com

by leftymalo on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with the second part.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just got back from the gym. Ran 2 miles and shot basketball. I’m tired.

Going to cook some dinner and watch X-Files.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

that sounds like a good workout

I’m going for a run when I get home probably do some push-ups/abwork too.

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got a fellowship application due tomorrow… I should be writing about science and not baseball… or maybe I should say I should be writing about science and not writing about not writing about science and not baseball. Woah.

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably clean the apartment

after going to the gym. pretty much exactly what I’d be doing even if there was a game

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Aug 31, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to be doing a lot of cleaning this week while the kids are gone. It’s a mess and it’s really, really hard to keep up when they’re about.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things I need to do while they're gone

- Clean the bathroom
- Mop the kitchen
- Clean up the kids’ room
- Sweep everywhere
- Scrub the stovetop
- Collect and toss all the various clutter that accrues
- Clean out the closet, condense boxes, toss stuff we’re clearly never using again

Wheeee!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really would have approved of this if you’d thrown in a bullet point referencing hookers and blow.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

For our stupit apartment you’d add “mop the bathroom ceiling” damn exhaust fan doesn’t suck.

I like to get everything clean right before I go back to work so I don’t have to even think about cleaning for the first month of school. Got a lot done today and will finish, I hope, on Friday.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

my wife is the same

maniacally reorganized her home desk, closet, bathroom, hall closet, etc… it’s almost like you educatorial folks get stressed out at the thought of going back in…

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

over the summer she met with some friends, and everyone apparently reported that their spouses had said something like “I really enjoy you during the summer- you’re like a different person”…

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

…and then there’s the wonderful moment you look at your class list and realize some brilliant office tech stuck you with 15 boys and 5 girls. Three of whom you already know are candidates for ritalin come 1st grade.

Time to go to Costco and stock up on vitamins and zipfizz.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, you're a K teacher?

Too bad Catholicism did away with purgatory- you’d be golden by now!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Limbo, we did away with Limbo. Illyana is very upset.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So are the slaad

Ygorl gonna get you!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

FLANDERS!

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend is in her first semester of student teaching and this sounds exactly like her class, except hers just became a 1-2 split.

I swear to god, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.

by Classy_Argonaut on Aug 31, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

First graders can be a hand full. Good luck with that.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's no worse time of the year

than the first month of school.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 31, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This year’s really a doozy for us. New program, new principal, new vice principal.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate going to the gym on monday

Its always to crowded on Mondays

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 31, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pretty much hate going to the gym always

but you gotta do what you gotta do

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Aug 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone has left for college already

Probably ride the stationary bike and watch Arrested Development

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to watch (and score) Todd Frazier and the Louisville Bats school my Columbus Clippers, and wonder why we drafted Noonan instead of him.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still jealous of your job. Frazier is a nice prospect.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT BEST PLATE DISCIPLINE IN THE SYSTEM!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHASE UTLEE

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT WITHOUT THE POWER.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

AND BARS HIS ARM

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Band is Playing at Amnesia

10:30 pm
No Cover

I forget where.

Come on down, country music fans!

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 31, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Valencia around 19th st.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhh, I GET IT!

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fried chicken spot becomes weed dispensary, probably serves similar clientele.

lol

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like this comment.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve had Steven Sebring’s Patti Smith documentary Dream of Life sitting here all week while the team
was home. So I’ll do happy hour @ the Cassanova > dinner @ Maverick (it’s half-off wine night) > drums/space > movie.

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Aug 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might go see a movie. I still haven’t seen Inglourious Basterds and I think it’s playing at the fancy-pants theater downtown.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved it. I really want to see District 9.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

D9 was great, too. The only thing missing was frequent and gratuitous Nazi deaths.

by Every6thDay on Aug 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife and I had to leave District 9 after like half an hour – we got stuck sitting in the second row, and the combination of being so close, a huge screen, and the herky-jerky cameras made us both really queasy. Meh.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being up front makes a huge difference. Same thing happened to me with some handheldy action movie — The Kingdom, I think it was.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not a big fan of Shakey Cam, but D9 looked good.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

In addition to not sitting in the front row, I would also recommend not eating bad sushi beforehand.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol sushi

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, um, actually a pretty nice little evening, we’re going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don’t know, I don’t know if we’ll have enough time.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Aug 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think KFC’s still open?

The 1st pitch is the best

by Tay on Aug 31, 2009 5:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fried chicken spot becomes weed dispensary, probably serves similar clientele.

lol

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Working :(

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto:(

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel you there :(

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

gonna cook dinner and watch Andrei Rublev with the wife

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. That’s an ambitious evening. Isn’t that 3 hours plus?

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

205 minutes!

can’t wait!

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 31, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

205 b&w minutes of medieval Russian icon painting! Can’t beat that.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was so exhausted from going to all three games this weekend (plus Thursday’s disaster) that I was late to work and will, therefore, be working until late. I recorded the replay of last night’s game on comcast, which I’ll probably watch when I get home.

/needs a life.

by kdl on Aug 31, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to either go for a run or swim after work and then resume watching Firefly which I just started.

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

EXTREME JEALOUSY

Firefly for the first time.. excellent except that one stupid episode.

Enjoy, and enjoy staying up all night if you have more than three episodes to go…

I got the used set for $12 at Streetlight in the Castro a couple weeks ago.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve only watched the first 3 episodes but I’m enjoying it quite a bit. I want to take my time since there are so few episodes.

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are a better man/woman than I

I had one weekend of very bloodshot eyes after watching one after another. Not as bad as the Wire, but close.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I stayed up all night watching season 4 of the Wire FOR THE SECOND TIME.

PS: man

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm almost afraid to buy them

although watching that particular one with my wife meant no marathon sessions…

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My first rehearsal with the Tuscaloosa Winds, a light orchestral ensemble made up of members of the community. I haven’t played with a group since high school, so I’m really looking forward to it.

by TheLetter2 on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

My exciting night is to go to bed early so I can sit through a 6 hour “faculty” meeting tomorrow, without losing mine.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to dinner in downtown santa barbara with my girlfriend and her mother to a very nice restaurant, hooray for gold digging boyfriends who never pay!

Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?

by TexasRanger on Aug 31, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to spend my evening reading every single comment in that other Penny thread.

Ha. Yeah right.

I’m gonna prepare for tomorrow’s school day and go to Benicia State Park with my family.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 31, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I’m probably going to go home, walk my dog, make dinner and read this site

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Aug 31, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just got done with my aerobics class. Studying for an hour or so and then going into work for a few hours. late night ahead :(

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Avoiding tha spoilers, I’m going to watch last night’s Mad Men. Also: drink Arnold Palmers and smoke. THE GOOD LIFE.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

starting to pack up to head back down to Corvallis

for my soph year of college

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

how is corvallis?

Oregon St is on my list of potential grad schools

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'll have to learn to talk slower.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA HA HA HA

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

 I don’t understand the question statement and I won’t respond to it

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

My nephew is a jr at OSU. He’s a nuc engineer major.

by Shoeless on Aug 31, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is your basic small college town

it’s really pretty in the fall

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

woah is that mega man?

look at his arm

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 31, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

That is JAHVID BEST if you dont know him now, you will by seasons end

by ACgiant97 on Aug 31, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Salesian High grad my man, c’mon

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 31, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd best RB in the Pac-10

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts, chronologically.

Meh. Ugh. All right, whatever. Meh again.

"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Self appointed president, ruler, dictator, czar and potentate of the Free Gerald Society. As of... right now.

by beat_la_25 on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

This was brought up in the previous thread (I think) but is there any FA compensation with Penny? How would that work? Do we have the right to offer him arbitration at the end of the year?

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, right now he'd be a Type B

And we could offer arbitration

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. What would you guys think of offering him arbitration? I kinda like the idea. If he accepts, the Giants get a 4-4.4 FIP pitcher in the NL.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to offer everyone arbitration. It’s really hard to look at the arb. process from the POV of the money people.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winn I’m iffy on but I’d be totally fine with offering it to Molina.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winn would certainly accept arbitration. And he cannot get more than a 20% pay cut, IIRC. So he would be making, what, $6.5M or so. No thanks.

Molina probably wouldn’t accept arb, and it would be fine if he did.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard that 20% paycut thing doesn’t apply to FA arb, actually. But still, DNW Winn on the team next year for anything more than like a million bucks as a fourth OF. And DNW him even then, really.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks, I didn’t know that.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re fine with paying a backup catcher $7M?

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He teaches leadership and how to work with pitchers.

That’s easily worth $5M.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 million chocolate coins maybe.

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by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Bengie is FAT

by kdl on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 million rupees?

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think he’d get $7M?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He got six million this year, and after batting him cleanup every day you can’t really argue that you don’t think he’s worth that.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that’s a good point, though I doubt he’d get more than $6M. But if you told Bengie that no matter what, he’d be a backup (eventually, if not right away) if he accepted, do you think he’d accept?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

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by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

no. I think some team in need of a catcher would sign him regardless of the compensation. Blue Jays, Reds, Astros, Mets seem like likely targets off the top of my head

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, to elaborate, I don’t think the front office could hold Bochy (if he’s the manager again) to the “backup” role. You know Bochy and his deep love for veterans. If Molina were on the roster, he’d be the starting catcher batting clean up every fucking game.

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by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

He made $6.5M this year, and he’s 3rd in HR’s and 4th in RBI’s amongst catchers. Last year he lead catchers in RBI’s, was again 3rd in HR’s, and was 3rd in AVG.

I’d say he’s getting $6-7M easily.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

man I hate AVG, HR and RBI.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So do the Giants AMIRITE

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by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zing!

Not to mention RISP.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 1, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see them re-do the criteria for FA stuff. It’ll never happen.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

AVG, HR, RBI → BODY BIAS, CLANKAGE, GAMEDAY PICTURE

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by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will take widespread writer acceptance of advanced metrics. I’d say 15 years, at minimum

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He might be a starter for the first 2 months.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

you can’t have bengie as the starter for two months and then put posey in. I can never see bochy taking bengie out for a rookie

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'd be the starter...

at the beginning of the year, at least until June 1 or so, and he’d be an insurance policy if Posey didn’t develop as quickly as we all hope. So I think it would be an OK deal.

I would also be fine if they decided not to offer him arb, for that matter.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

So sign Ramon Castro. He’ll be better than Molina, and won’t cost more than $1-2M.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, there’s got to be someone out there who’s not a rapist, right?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1934609

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf

he called that a “misunderstanding”

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he doesn’t understand “NO!”

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by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1:

-1 for rape joke
-1 for incorrect use of apostrophe
+3 for funny

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna go with this.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

needs to play in the NFL

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by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of which...

did you hear? OMG OMG!!!
Brett Favre
             might
                    have
                         a
                            cracked
                                    rib!!!!

Whatever will we do??!?!!??!

(afaic this just means his rib = his head)

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that he’s already making excuses for how badly he’ll play this year.

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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Failavre

I apologize for continuing a Fav-Ruh thread, but I never saw how this was good for the Vikings. Even in the best case scenario, your playoff run is tainted by the fact that you needed to bring a Packer on board to do it. And anything LESS than best case is screwing with your fans and the rest of the team to push your eternal QB search off.. what, a year? Two?

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK...

So sign Josh Bard. Similar production, and he’s making $600K.

Or someone else. Really, there are plenty of guys out there who are likely to be about as good as Molina in 200-300 PA’s, and won’t cost anything.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I do agree.

I’m a big fan of GREGG ZAUN personaly

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, it seems like he’s been catching in the majors for about fifty years.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m Zaun board with that nominee.

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you agree then why are you fine with offering Molina arbitration?! Huh?!

Busted.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Zaun’s contract has a team option.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOO

what about, like, Ramon Hernandez?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Team option. And he’d actually cost something. Josh Bard is free.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOO

Ok, I guess Josh Bard would be ok. Though he’s been pretty terrible the last few years.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got an idea

BUSTER POSEY

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Also, Tim Lincecum

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

BABIP

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

OTOH

catcher over 30.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Molina is an obese catcher over 35.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve decided I don’t want Molina anymore geez

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

GIRLZ CHANGE THIER MINDS A LOT

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

CHECKMATE

Yeah, I don’t know why I brought the discussion back to Molina.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ideally, we would get into a situation where it would be relatively safe to offer him arb though.

I’m not sure what that situation would be, of course.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kick him in the nuts, then offer arbitration,.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL ADRIAN BELTRE

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

As opposed to Gregg Zaun?

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gregg Zaun is over 30 and still awesome
Josh Bard is over 30 and not awesome anymore

THAT’S HOW IT WORKS.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Free Eric Munson...

http://minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi

Put me down for a dose of him. I’m all for giving guys like him a chance. He’s mashed RHP’s in AAA and I’m all for that in a backup catcher because you can maximize your off-days so much better

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone who won't bat cleanup

is just fine by me. It would be really, really nice if the Giants could field a lineup in which the C could bat, you know, like 7 or 8.

Because there are hitters in the other spots, of course, not because of insane lineup card filling-outing.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

let me get this straight

you want the Giants to get worse???

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear Sal Fasano needs a job... Eh? Eh?

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can deal with Castro’s misdemeanors, but I don’t think I could live with a child pornographer as our cather

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He looks like Aaron Rodgers a bit—right around the eyes.

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by Juan Primo on Aug 31, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of trading for chris snyder

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm semi-convinced

From a baseball standpoint, I believe you are correct, Cookyman. From a morale standpoint, would not even offering arb to Molina, (like it or not) one of the leaders on the team, cause dissension in the ranks? I’d hate to piss off Sandoval and have him turn down the Longoria-type extension he gets offered because he thinks the Giants screwed over Bengie to save $5M.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not really screwing Molina. If anything, screwing Molina would be offering him arbitration after making sure that he won’t accept it, just for the draft pick.

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by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, if the A’s could afford to offer 29 people arbitration during Moneyball…

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with it

If he pitches well down the stretch, I bet he’ll draw interest though.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Offering him arb would seem like a win-win

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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. He’s been so horrid for the last two years that he’d probably get a crappy salary.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely yes. If he declines then we get a draft pick.

If not, then we have a decent pitcher at the back end of the rotation. It’s not like
Mad Bum will be ready by April of next year. Pucetas is like Joey Martinez which is a giant MEH.

I don’t really like Penny that much, but as a back of the rotation guy he is good enough.

I’d also be interested to see who else is out there in FA. Ben Sheets can’t possibly command all that much given he’s coming off surgery and has been out an entire year. I’d like to see the Giants go after him if there isn’t a big market on him. Could give him a nice incentive based contract. Also with the economy still shitty, not many teams are going to be able to be big spenders, look at poor Tampa having to sell off Kazmir because their budget for next year can’t take on many ascending contracts.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

btw

Nate Schierholtz: 87 OPS+
Fred Lewis: 101 OPS+

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

FREDEMPTION

I still love Fred.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being the Problem

Lewis: Yes
Nate : No

There it is

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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was coined in yesterday's game thread

but I really do like The Problem as Fred’s nickname.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Fred is the Problem and in this scenario, Nate is the Solution. We’re in trouble.

Also, interestingly, Nate has a negative arm on Fangraphs. Now I know SSS and all that, and to be honest I have no idea how they compute that, just thought it was interesting.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

“…just thought it was interesting.” Yes, if “interesting” = “wrong”.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Aug 31, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT ABOUT RBIS!?!?!

And Nate is Clutch.

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol @ Nate’s walk total.

lol @ Fred’s Defense.

LOL @ them both for being meh players who play corner OF and don’t hit for any power, or play well enough in any one area to warrant being a starter on a contending team.

LOL GIANTS!

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

+3.9 UZR this season

WHOOOOO!

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

UZR also says Kendry Morales is better than Mark Teixeira at defense. And that despite Teixeira being so highly regarded at 1b, he’s been a – defender 4 out of the past 5 years.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The eyes lie.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

Stats can lie too. Especially when they are a flawed metric.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re a flawed metric!

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop all the downloadin

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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey kid, I’m a computer.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can buy UZR being a flawed metric but not because it doesn’t jive with the grougthink for a couple of players.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your use of “too” implies that you don’t really believe in the “not really”.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I always like when someone points out a player having a bad year by UZR as a fault of UZR.

HE WAS +10 LAST YEAR AND NOW HE’S +2 THIS YEAR, UZR DOESN’T WERK

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

SO SAD TODAY, MANG. DA UZR, IT DA BROKENZ!

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by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teixiera:

2005: -1.7
2006: -2.1
2007: -4.4
2008: 10.6
2009: -1.1

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

So maybe UZR gets Texeira/1B wrong or maybe Teixeira isn’t that good.

It doesn’t mean that Fred Lewis’s defensive problems aren’t overblown.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I’d ask Hobbes why he thinks Tex is such a good first baseman in the first place. Besides the GOLD GLOVEZ.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The consensus opinion about him in baseball by managers, players, scouts, etc is that he is the best defensive 1B in the game and has been for awhile. The Stats obviously do not back that up.

Why is it that everyone seems to think Fred Lewis is terrible on defense yet the stats think he is good? There must be some sort of common ground or gray area here that isn’t really discussed all that much. Most of the time people just base their opinion by just throwing out random opinions based on observations or statistics. Whereas if you were trying to come to a REAL conclusion you would use a variety of information at hand.

I just think it’s interesting is all.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The consensus opinion about him in baseball by managers, players, scouts, etc is that he is the best defensive 1B in the game and has been for awhile. The Stats obviously do not back that up.

This reminds me too much of Derek Jeter.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

For instance….how do we know that Tim Lincecum is the best pitcher in baseball?

We have plenty of observational evidence to support that opinion and the statistical data also backs up that claim.

So saying that is not a flawed statement at all.

Whereas, if I said Pablo Sandoval was the best third baseman in the game, that’s a much more flawed argument to make. Since he falls short defensively, and there are a few other 3B who are on par or slightly better offensively.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, I don’t get your point. Because the statistical data doesn’t back up the claim that Mark Teixeira is the best defensive 1B in baseball, the statistical data is flawed? Isn’t it possible that it’s the other way around?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derek Jeter is the best SS in history because he does that awesome jump-throw-thing.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. I’m saying that just going by observation or just statistics is wrong. There’s much more to consider than just one or the other. But I find it interesting that for something like the Fans Scouting Report they are going off observation and that they find that those observations turn out to be accurate more often than not.

I’m mostly just interested by the wide variety of conclusions that can be made from different forms of study is all. Because both stats and the eyes can lie to you.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, obviously, both stats and your eyes can lie to you. But like, offensive stats aren’t any different. How often have you seen some guy who’s clearly not a .300 hitter go half a season hitting .340?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s just small sample size. That’s a different issue entirely.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and defensive stats have the same small sample size issue.

UZR has other issues as well – people have pointed out that it seems to treat CF at Coors and LF at Fenway quite poorly, for example.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's pretty rare, though...

…to watch someone over a bunch of games and think they’re hitting really well only to look at the stats and find they say exactly the opposite. Fielding stats seem to disagree with basic observation more often.

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by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, when I look at Marvin Benard’s offensive stats, they aren’t nearly as bad as I remember him being experientially.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s because Marvin Benard really wasn’t that bad.

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by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only when it mattered.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Marvin Benard swings shoulder high at a slider in the dirt.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

which is belt high to everyone else

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not clutch.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hit a walk off July 2nd, 3rd or 4th, 2000 vs. Bums.

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by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

/cry

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure the consensus best defensive 1B in the game is Albert Pujols (who UZR pretty much loves.)

As for Fred, I think you know exactly why people think he’s terrible on defense – he’s made a few boneheaded mistakes out there and now every time he doesn’t make a play, it’s a play he should have made and he’s the worst player in the history of the game. (This is not saying he HASN’T made some awful miscues, but as a whole, he gets to more balls than the average LF does.)

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

DEFENDER OF THE FRED

but i completely agree, because every time he misjudges/drops/bobbles a ball, the play is magnified a million times, whereas if someone, say pablo, misplays a ball, people don’t make as big of a deal of it.

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, Nate had a pretty bad misjudge of a flyball in Colorado last series and he barely got any shit for it at all.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand almost made a nice play at the CF fence yesterday (I think) but didn’t quite get it. Had that been Lewis, a freakout would’ve commenced, even though it wasn’t even a ball that could be reasonably expected to be caught.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand looked terrible on that play. I was half expecting a gif being posted referencing “404” on the wall.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet, somehow, Bruce Jenkins didn’t respond by writing an article about how Aaron Rowand’s defense was ruining the Giants. Shocker!

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, the wind was horrible yesterday. Helton and Trashy both almost missed pop-ups, Renteria did miss one, and then there was Hawpe’s play in right (LOL!).

But in spite of that, yes, if that had been Fred he would have been crucified for it.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine if Fred made the mistake that Hawpe made?

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by thehavenot on Aug 31, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Damon Bruce would have killed him.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

When your mother gives you the middle name of “The Problem” it is easy to point him out as an easy whipping boy.

I like Fred, but I think he gets so much grief because even on routine plays he seems to put some sort of doubt in my mind that the play might not be made. Now this isn’t always the case, but it seems like it is a lot of the time (at least to me).

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate isn’t a great judge of fly balls either. He just has a great arm, and his glove is more realible. But his routes are sometimes an adventure like Fred.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Entirely due to inexperience in that park.

Besides, Nate has made only 3 errors in his 117 MLB games. Fred has 11 in 260.

by hokysmksbw on Sep 1, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

What exactly about Coors makes it tough to catch a fly ball?

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Sep 1, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jesh, it obviously the beer goggles

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by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what we’ve been talking about. first of all, I object to using errors as the basis for comparison. Secondly, this is why Fred gets a bad rap. Everyone must be better at defense since fred is “bad”. Eugenio Velez? Gold Glover compared to Fred Lewis. MY EYES TELL ME SO. Nate could have 8 errors over the next 140 games and just saying the number of errors wouldn’t tell me a thing about his defense in RF because it would tell me how many balls he didn’t cut off before reaching triples alley, balls he should have caught going over his head, etc. Fred Lews has a game which is not pretty, given, but he is a top 5 position player on this team and is not starting.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, i see your point, so basically if Nate has a 3 error game two nights in a row, would there still be people out there saying Fred is worse than Nate?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. Fred plays above average defense, but because he misses some catches that seem routine, he gets a bad rap. In reality, all players make those gaffes, but for some reason Fred draws more ire from the fans

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

And i think Fred does mess up in a crucial part of the game too which contributes to the bad rap, you think?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think a dropped ball in any situation is going to be bad and cause ire. Fred’s range allows him to get to balls that other LFs may not, so the drops seem inexcusable. We would be as hard on him if he just didn’t have the range, because that wouldn’t necessarily be something he could fix, but the lack of putting glove on ball drives fans mad.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about bat on ball? are we just talking defense here? because isn’t it possible that all ball players have a bad year? Was Freds year last year really that bad offensively?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will maintain that if Bochy gave Fred 80% of the starts at LF from here on out, Fred would maintain, and possibly improve, his .360 OBP from the leadoff spot. Bochy’s use of Lewis since may has been intermittent at best, which hurts the majority of players. With this team, you have to ignore average production from the position and focus on putting above average offensive players in general in the lineup, and Fred falls into that catagory.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, so basically Bochy should’ve just put Fred in left and stuck him there for lead off, no matter what and let him work itself out? Well, here’s a question, in your opinion, do you think Fred’s better than Randy Winn, because in my opinion, i like Fred over Randy, and i do like Rowand, and Nate

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Fred is our second best OF after Rowand. And yeah, he should have been the leadoff hitter from the beginning of the season and they never should have tried to force him into the role of a power hitter/RBI guy.

Nate might have the potential to be the best of them all, but I’m not sure he’ll reach it.

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still amazed that mgmt somehow thought they could just say “We’d like Fred to start hitting for power” before the season, and expected it to happen. He’s not a power hitter, and that was a stupid thing to do/say.

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by can of corn on Sep 1, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still think Grant’s post on Lewis as a #3 hitter was classic

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right!!!! Fred has to utilize his speed, and for that, just get on base, i guess no one predicted Sandoval to be a power hitter, Molina to have some power… whatever

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yea, totally Fred has more power than Nate, Nate’s a contact hitter, but i agree, if Fred has more consistent starts, he might be a our 2nd best

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like Nate will develop more power as he gets more familiar with the league… I too am a Fredemption/Rownad/Juggernater.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

 Schierholtz could top out as a .310 hitter with a .350 OBP. Lewis could be a .280/.390 guy. Both have value when positioned in the lineup in the right manner

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes. Winn is a FA after this season, and this team needs a LF. I see no reason why that can’t be filled in house, but instead it is a revolving door (Bowker, Velez, Winn, Lewis, Torres). Just pick a player and stick with him. Now, to his credit, Bochy has done that with Velez, though i disagree with that choice. I think Lewis gives the team the best chance to win right now. So, to answer your question, i want an OF of Lewis, Rowand, Schierholtz.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lewis or Bowker platooned with Torres would be a perfect solution to the problem, but if Velez keeps up a .285/.315/.400 line, I bet he’ll be handed the job.

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whenever the end of the season comes around and we have a player who got hot in August and September is “handed” the job, I think of Dan Ortmeier.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, whoever starts out in LF next year is just keeping it warm for THOMAS NEAL amirite?

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by oldjacket on Sep 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

NEAL NEAL NEAL

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

NEAL is the REAL DEAL PAL!!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Neal before zod. Speaking of which, Zod is coming to smallville this season, we may have to take clips of people Kneeling before Zod

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, i want to see more from Fred, so what if he strikes out 3 times, hasn’t a number of the players on this team done that? But i totally agree with replacing the LF position in house rather than in FA, it’s just more money… but hey, it’s not my money

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. Let’s go with the cheaper option that sinking 30 mil or so into Dye.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or spending money on Dave Roberts

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we could somehow get Matt Holliday without having to give him too big a contract, I’d be down with that, but that’s unlikely to happen, so I hope they give Bowker a fair shot, even if they have to platoon him.

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea for real dude, i’ll agree with this

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep. Bowker may need to take the schierholtz route to starting

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some make them more than others… Fred has more than his share.
I understand and accept that range is much more important for outfielders than hands, but I also think the psychological effect on the team of the out and out CLANK is under appreciated (particularly on the pitcher).
Also, Fred just appears clueless and that feeds into the perception of defensive badness (regardless of the reality).

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

if that is so, why don’t fans hate Velez?

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a big fan of Velez, his defense is atrocious sometimes, but i got to go with Fred over Velez defensively

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, but I don’t think the majority of the casual fanbase would.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s entertainingly unpredictable… I do wince whenever a ball is hit his way though. I think it’s just that Zorak has been hitting enough for people to look the other way as long as he’s not at second base.
Not that it’s logical or fair, but I think if Fred had more RBIz, he would get more slack from the fans on his defense.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, Fred is outhitting Velez by a significant margin…

(except for RBIZ of course)

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with Velez, the concept. I do have a problem with Velez getting PT over Lewis. I will say I am biased on this though.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of Velez as a 4th OF/emergency IF who can play all over the place but as an everyday starter, he’s out of his league

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect, yea i like the idea of Velez as a back up, Fred, Rowand, Schierholtz, and having Velez, Torres as backups? or Bowker or whomever else in house? that’s not bad

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bowker may eventually be the guy, but man, this lineup could use some OBP in it

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

OBP = Sandoval, OBP = ummmm… gimmie a few minutes let me figure this shit out

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo Sandoval has one of the better BB% on this team.

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by oldjacket on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, i’m just figuring out who else has good OBP

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fred Lewis. Torres and Rowand averagish OBPs. That’s it.

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by oldjacket on Sep 1, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

and who else? Lewis would have the second best OBP by far in the starting lineup.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, and like we’ve said… HE DOESNT PLAY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so someones at fault for that

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

which is pretty much why I hate Velez starting everyday

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

but you don’t hate Velez, right? I can’t hate a player at all, since they’re contributing to the team some how

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. Velez has been a pleasant surprise, I just dislike that every 0-4 he gats a pass and still starts but Ishikawa, Lewis and Schierholtz sit

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, basically he was hot and bochy played him

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but schierholtz sits for games at a time for no reason

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

The reason is exactly that Nate is a lefty and Velez is switch… blah blah blah

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

LEFTIES CAN’T HIT LEFTIES

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is a good backup LF/ 2B and a good bench bat.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

He isn’t a good 2B. He should really only play there in the type of situation where Randy Winn is playing third.

by taliesin on Sep 1, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like Velez. /CLANK

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by can of corn on Sep 1, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to hate Velez...

…and I reserve the right to start hating him again once the magic potion wears off.

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by EliminateMe on Sep 1, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It already has

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by groug on Sep 1, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

and for the record, I agree with everything you said, i’m just curious as to why fred might get a bad rap but velez doesn’t

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. I am not saying he does not make defensive mistakes, but the fact that his mistakes draw far more ire than those made by any other player on the team is bizarre.

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fred's approach to balls is also suspect.

What other players see is not that he can’t get to balls, it’s that he turns his body the wrong way on relatively simple catches and doesn’t position himself for an assist after the catch or a good throw in case of a trap.

He does not appear to have the best instincts for the fundamentals.

by hokysmksbw on Sep 1, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet, due to his speed, he’s still above average for a left fielder.

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree...

as I stated not long ago: to play LF you only need to be an OK fielder.

However, so long as the other Fred is shelved, I can see Bochy’s logic in starting Velez. If Bochy wants to make a double switch he can move Velez to the infield and put the PH in OF after the AB (or move Velez from IF to OF if he started at 2B).

by hokysmksbw on Sep 1, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Velez started playing long before Sanchez got injured. He started playing before we even traded for Sanchez.

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by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reasons for starting Velez in July are different from now.

In July the Giants were looking for offense from somebody other than the KFP and Velez was hot. That was over 3 weeks ago, so the reasons for continually starting him in the OF some days and IF other days is to save Bochy some stress in juggling defense late in a game. Note that Velez stays in games no matter how bad a batting funk he might be in once he starts.

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“ended 3 weeks ago” might have been a less unwieldy phrase.

by hokysmksbw on Sep 1, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yet his defense is poor, which leads me to wonder why he continually stays in the game

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet, rosters have expanded, and Velez is still playing.

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by Cookyman on Sep 2, 2009 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Velez is playing every day, presumably because of reasons like: the team needs a leadoff hitter, he’s CLUTCH, and he had a hod 2 weeks when he came up. Fred lewis at leadoff makes way more sense, being as the OBP thing usually being preferred in a leadoff hitter

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fred's OBP is up to .360

.360! And he’s had 2 starts in the last 14 days.

(Velez… .319)

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. If velez was that important to the team, then play him a 2B a bit. Lewis at leadoff makes too much sense for this team

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps we’re getting it wrong. It’s not that The Problem isn’t clutch, it’s that he doesn’t clutch. The ball. When it hits him in the @#&ing glove.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

neither does Velez

/clank

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

/clank!

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

so what you’re saying is that Fred has been improving since Eugenio moved into the starting lineup. Well I guess we need more starts for Eugenio then.

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by SF Pete on Sep 1, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone seems to think Fred Lewis is terrible

Actually, according to the Fan Scouting Report, which you’ve mentioned below, Fred Lewis is one of the best LF’s out there.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a funny thing..

Lewis is an above average LF simply because LF’s are just that terrible.

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the point.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering the amount of people who have said things like, “Oh Dunn/Burrell/Duncan/etc can’t be any worse defensively than Fred!” I guess it’s just not that obvious.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols is also a good fielder only because 1B are terrible. Put him at SS and he’d be sub-par.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give him credit though – he’s been stuck at 1B due to that wonky elbow and he’s worked to make himself as good as possible at that position.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had a negative UZR back when he was playing third base, it looks like.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

SSS, etc.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

well....

Pujols was put at 1B because of shoulder issues and the fact that it was likely the position for him to best thrive. His bat obviously would play anywhere, but 1B is the position that best maximizes his defensive ability given the lack of throwing needed.

Lewis plays LF simply because it’s the only position he can be above average at. He can be above average because guys like Carlos Lee, Pat Burrell, Adam Dunn, Josh Willingham, etc. play LF. It’s where the guys who can’t field tend to play (if 1B or DH is taken). Fred Lewis being above average in LF is like being the smartest kid in special ed.

He’s still the best LF we have (although Bochy doesnt think so), I’m not really trying to argue against Lewis at all. I like him…enough

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

1B is also the only position in which Pujols could be above average. That’s how it works.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

ehhh...

he was decent enough at 3B pre-shoulder injury to where I wouldn’t necessarily rule him out as being close to average.

Also, I think the man also deserves some credit. Just because you move down the defensive ladder doesn’t mean your production will slide accordingly. Just ask Aubrey Huff

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close to average is, in fact, below average.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Given that he was 22 years old and close to average at 3B, I don’t think it’s a stretch to think he could have improved marginally enough to put him above

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, so if Pujols had been given a chance, and went back in time and magically avoided his arm injury, maybe he would have been a decent 3B for a few years. Then his range would have started declining, and he’d be below average again.

Good point…I guess? I mean, how is this relevant anyway?

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even before he got, my recollection is that everyone expected him to end up at first base anyway.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

  I think you were making the point that Pujols, like Lewis, is perceived as great at 1B because his peers stink, which on some level is true, but my point is that..

a) Pujols is a better fielder at 1B than Lewis is in LF (at least in my opinion)
b) The path to which Pujols got to be good at 1B is impressive. Went through the injuries to the shoulder and became an elite 1B. Guys like Huff have made the same switch and remain below average
c) Lewis on the other hand, plays LF simply because his reads are generally so bad that it’s the only position he can play. In CF or he’d probably be well below average. I still think if Pujols wanted to, he could be a league average LF, but there’s just no sense in dealing with that

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

a) Is arguable. Pujols is a great 1B, but I think Lewis saves more runs, simply because, as a LF, he gets to handle many more balls in play than Pujols does.

b) Is irrelevant.

c) Is irrelevant again (the part about Lewis). Pujols an average LF? Yeah, I guess, he’s pretty athletic.

Anyway, I wasn’t really trying to make a point about Pujols, just pointing out that it’s not like Lewis is the only player in the league who benefits from being compared to an “inferior” group. A better example would have been Molina, who wouldn’t have a job if couldn’t play C (since he’d only be able to play 1B, which would be a disaster both offensively and defensively). But, because catchers hit so poorly, Bengie had a pretty nice career. That’s just how baseball works.

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by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

look, every team needs a LF. Fred is one and happens to be an above average LF. end of story.

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, he could be so much better…

Can’t teach speed, but he can take a million fly balls in the off season to get better at reading the ball off the bat.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s seen thousands of balls in his lifetime. It’s a skill, and he simply doesn’t have it. I know it can be annoying, but I really think that being mad at him for it is like being mad at Burriss for not hitting home runs.

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by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skill implies the ability to improve with practice… do you mean it’s a talent?

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if it’s a skill, there’s usually diminishing returns to practice/experience. If he hasn’t developed it yet, he probably never will.

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by oldjacket on Sep 1, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was mainly just quibbling...

I see the logic in that and don’t disagree – he may have reached his max potential fly ball-wise. I still think he’s talking about some type of talent rather than skill (the ability to calculate trajectories on the run might have some component that’s inborn rather than learned for example) .
I have seen pretty amazing things (as far as physical skills) happen due to diligent practice over a period of years, so I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of improvement… at the same time, I won’t be betting my lunch money on it either.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. Some guys are able to make a sudden break through, but root for it, don’t bet on it.

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by oldjacket on Sep 1, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question for the STATS NERDZ

Since UZR doesn’t exist for catchers, is there anything that’s semi-decent and easy to understand that attempts to measure catchers’ defense?

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

BODY BIAS

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by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Rally has done defense for catcher’s, it’s on his site. It’s pretty interesting.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s really hard to quantify what, exactly, is most important for catcher defense.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, they don’t interact with many BIP. I think the difference between Mike Piazza and the top defensive catcher was like 10 runs. That’s pretty small when you think about it.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a thread on BBTF a little while ago where people were talking about Bengie Molina and badmouthing his defense and someone was like, “Wait, he leads the league in putouts!”

Uhhhhh…

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by SF Pete on Aug 31, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

win

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derrek Lee, homers by year:

2003: 31
2004: 32
2005: 46
2006: 8
2007: 22
2008: 20
2009: 25

It varies so widely that home runs clearly must be a flawed stat.

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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

IMPORTANT

When evaluating first baseman, UZR does not account for a player’s ability to catch poorly thrown balls. It is a range stat. Therefore, players like JT Snow and Tex who excel at catching short hops and other off target deliveries will have lower UZRs than you expect

by snafu on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. Tex has great range. Wonder why it hates him

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It could be that it doesn’t actually hate him, but AL 1B in general are just better than you think they are.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kendry Morales was only a part-timer before this season so I really have no idea how good he is. Can’t really think of the other “good” defensive first basemen besides Yukilis, Mourneau, and Carlos Pena. I would say he is in the same class as those three, and certainly not a negative value

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

According to fangraphs, the qualified AL 1B this year look like:

Morales +2.7
Cabrera +2.1
Konerko +1.9
Branyan +1.5
Morneau +1.2
Overbay -0.2
Teixeira -1.1
Huff -1.7
Pena -2.7
Butler – 5.0 (lol)

so, barring Butler, it’s really not that big a difference between the bottom guy and the top one.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Youk doesn’t qualify due to too much time playing 3B, but he’s at +4.5)

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

UZR usually does a pretty good job of matching my intuitions, but not really for 1B.

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by oldjacket on Aug 31, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

SSS. They have fewer balls hit at them than any other position.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am with you. Branyan has less range, more errors, and a higher UZR than three guys I consider good first basemen. I demand a recount, lol

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Errors yeah but how many games of Russell Branyan have you actually watched? How do you know he has less range than those guys?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably 5-10. He definitely doesn’t come off as cat-like

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can easily think of 5-10 games that would make, say, Nate look like a horrible fielder.

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by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

UZR doesn’t seem to work very well for first baseman. It didn’t love J.T., either.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly think Snow was good, but vastly (hugely?) overrated on defense.

HE SCOOPS THROWS!

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that the difference between the best 1B in terms of scoops and the worst is only like 4-5 runs over the course of the season.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a very minimal skill that’s been pretty overblown.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That too.

The Giants are never going to have another power hitting first baseman in my lifetime, are they? :(

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not until we can perfect Cyber McCovey

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

how are the specs coming on that?

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO

AND YOU’LL LIKE IT, DAMMIT.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

re: scoops

even 4-5 runs is big on defense, that’s half a win!

but still, you can read even beyond that as to what having a good defense 1B means for your other infielders. An ability to scoop a ball well and reliably can allow your infielders to force throws they otherwise wouldn’t force (which can lead to a couple extra outs per position a year hypothetically). One extreme example of this could be Yadier Molina and Albert Pujols. Part of the reason Yadier is able to pick off so many runners is because of Albert Pujols as a defender. They have a brilliant timing play and Pujols footwork is sensational and putting himself in perfect position to sneak in, receive the throw, and make an excellent tag. It’s still Yadier’s play, but Pujols does have a small contribution in them and allows Yadier to make more of those throws as well as making them successful

The way in which defenders work with each other on the field is something that really hasn’t been explored very much yet, but probably will when the hit f/x stuff becomes available. I don’t expect any profound discoveries, but it is very possible certain players can be worth more or less than their perceived value by a few funs, which is still very significant.

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just think that people overrate the ability of good first basemen to scoop balls – maybe guys like Ryan Garko suck at it, but I think that most first basemen are actually able to scoop their fair share of bad throws on a consistent basis.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

but on the flip side, it could make other infielders be more careful on their throws (VELOLEZ) but in the end, it doesn’t have that much of an effect

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I treat “scoops” kind of like baserunning. Most guys are in the middle with a few outliers like Ichiro and Molina.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

still, what intrigues me is the impact some guys can have on peers. You and me probably don’t feel there is a massive difference between Todd Helton and say Jorge Cantu as a 1B, but to most big leaugers Im sure they view those two as night and day defensively.

Measuring that impact is going to be real interesting. How players range can affect can one another, etc.

A lot of these aren’t measured now and are individually likely quite minor (maybe a few runs difference) but if you can measure all of these little thing we could be talking about differences of 5-10 runs, which is clearly quite huge

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was very good, but not exactly Keith Hernandez good.

I wish they had defensive metrics back then.

by Hobbes2d on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol @ Fred’s Defense.

I am going to fight you with a broken pool cue now.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s back up to 101? I belive that puts him into a tie for second best OPS+ on the team (only counting Garko and Sanchez’s numbers as Giants). Whoo!

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, tied with Rowand.

I think Uribe is fourth!

Would it be ridiculous to say that Uribe has been the 2nd or 3rd most valuable position player on the Giants this year?

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Safe to say that Xanthan was right

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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uribe is one of those players I can’t quite bring myself to like even though he’s played well for the Giants. Dunno why. Maybe it’s because we have too goddamn many hackers on this team and I can’t bring myself to like any of them but Pablo.

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like his little sword swing that he does after he totally misses a pitch.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like his little sword

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate him every time he has a terrible AB but I loved the batflip after the walkoff against the Bums and I love him when he’s hitting CLUTCH DINGERZ AND DOUBLES.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not find that assessment to be ridiculous. I believe Uribe should be in the lineup more, which is both an indictment of the Giants’ offensive situation and a testament to how well and consistent Uribe has played this season.

by Every6thDay on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES, YES IT WOULD.

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by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, in nearly the same PA’s.

Fred – 1.2 wins
Nate – 0.5 wins

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this analysis.

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Bowker will have an OPS+ of one million.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s Eugenio Velez’s OPS+? because he’s the only one out of those 3 starting everyday

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

88

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he plays every day, whereas nate and Fred don’t. fantastic.

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he’s fast and a sparkplug and man he hit well the first week he was up.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If all of our OFs are streaky, then what makes one better than the other? THE GODDAMN ABILITY TO TAKE A WALK

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lucky!

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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL LARS!

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by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL LARS!LOLARS

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by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I missed the Pablo Sandoval walk-off homer earlier this year. :(

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by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one against the Natinals?

by kdl on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Missed that one myself.

^^^

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by El Person on Aug 31, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is a great move. The odds are pretty good that whatever we get out of Penny will be an upgrade over our current number 5 starters. I really don’t give a shit that he played for the Dodgers. I just want to win.

Plus if we pitch him Wednesday and push Timmy back we will have Timmy, Zito and Cain lined up for the Rockies series and we may well need another sweep.

by Countificus on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Since we’ve already gone OT. For you music nerds, what do you think of Leonard Cohen? I really like him but I was having a conversation with my friend yesterday and he basically thought he was horrible. I was shocked!

Is his viewpoint a popular one?

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I LOVE LEONARD COHEN

Your friend has bad taste and should feel bad. Sometimes the later stuff with all the cheesy synths can be too much (though the lyrics are always fantastic), but if you don’t like the first three albums, you probably suck.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I like the cheesy synths too.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too, but I can understand why they would turn someone off.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think if I could steal anyone’s voice in the world, it would be his.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love his voice on the early stuff best but on some of the later songs (I’m thinking of Waiting for the Miracle and Everybody Knows in particular) it’s incredible.

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suzanne

Amazing.

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by Aadik on Aug 31, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

She will feed you tea and oranges

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by hairball on Aug 31, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That come all the way from China

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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

suzanne is not a localvore

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by oldjacket on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Jesus verse the best

But he himself was broken
Long before the sky would open
Forsaken, almost human
He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone

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by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, his voice got a lot more interesting as he aged.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He relies a bit too much on the female backing vocals at times though, imo.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody Knows

cohen rules

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 31, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leonard Cohen is phenomenal

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never heard of anyone hating Leonard Cohen and I’m pretty sure your friend is worse than Hitler.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s got good taste, but he hated his voice mostly, I think.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see that. I like him anyway.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

51-49 FOR Leonard Cohen. Some days I really hate him, though.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not that familiar with him. Where is good to start?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He released a 2 CD live album this year. That’s a good starter. So is The Best of Leonard Cohen – the first of his best of collections.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also really, really love the album The Future.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

get the debut

Songs of Leonard Cohen

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I’d probably say.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to find a new friend.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

as long as Penny pitches well

I really don’t give a shit what he did before he came here.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 31, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

He picked that guy off or something

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Odd Day for Me

I woke up later than usual and decided to go for a walk along the Embarcadero while listening to KNBR with my headphones. As I approached Pac Bell, the news sprung on KNBR that the Giants had signed Penny, per CNNSI. I was pleased with the signing, even despite my hate for him as a Dodger. The memory of that TMZ video that I had seen before helped me cope. All of a sudden, I was at Pac Bell and the park just seemed bigger. I’ve been to over 20 games this year, but today, a day after sweeping the Rockies, with the entire Bay Area talking about the Giants, the park just felt daunting. I decided to go into the Giants dugout store and see if there was anything new that would spark my itnerest to buy. As I walked in, the song, “Don’t Stop Believing” by Journey was playing. My first thought was that this was a CD and I felt it to be a bit cheesy. But as the song ended, promotions for the radio station it had been playing on began. It turned out to be coincidence and at the same time, with the odd events that had preceded this incident throughout my day, I felt that it is the Giants’ fate to make the playoffs.

Section 314 FTW!

by KingofDucks1987 on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Unless, of course, Tony the Giants are shot midway through the song.

Don’t stop-
/blackout

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

game

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I wasn't around for the other thread

and theres no way I’m reading through 1000+ posts, but what is the consensus feeling on this signing? I don’t really understand the idea of “we should not sign him because he’s a jerk!”, i hope that wasn’t the consensus.

by superk1ng on Aug 31, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the general consensus is, “Yeah, that’s okay.”

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The general consensus is that we are easily distracted.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

And we can’t shut the hell up and we’re in love with our own cleverness.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And look, there’s a shiny object over there!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHERE?!?

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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

PIE!

WHO LOVES IT???

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are not easily distra……oooooh look! a squirrel!!

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Them there varmints sure am tasty in a pie.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh look someone put a giants hat on him!

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I now perceive a remarkable resemblance between said squirrel and Aaron Rowand!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And this site likes music that I’ve never heard of

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look, you know the rules around here: You want to find out what people think about baseball, you have to read 700 posts on Springsteen, beer, and butt pee. No shortcuts.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

total Brad Penny related subthreads <<<<< everything else

Bruce Springsteen got hammered while drinking vodka and high ABV beer and fought the Sharks and Jets simultaneously… or something.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

while eating a hotdog.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

And listening to It’s Alright Ma (I’m Only Bleeding).

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares if he was a dodger?

If he does well who cares? As much as i wanted to see Joe Martinez succeed, it just didn’t happen. Hopefully Penny gets the job done for the last month of the season.

by Josh L on Aug 31, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s a good move because now Penny can share Larry Bowa-hate stories with Kevin Mitchell

by www.westcoastbias.com on Aug 31, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/08/brad-penny-headed-to-giants.html

Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.

by zodiac_chiller on Aug 31, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Let’s see if they’ll be laughing when Penny is pitching against the Dodgers!

(Hopefully not)

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, that is quite a bit of sports writing right there. Are the LA Times journalists living in their mother’s basement?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the blog. Blogs always mean looser rules. Next thing you know, they’ll be talking about Leonard Cohen and obscure beers.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess Baggs gets rather cheeky in his blog posts too.

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note to Tim Lincecum: Watch everything that Penny does and copy it. That will only help the Dodgers’ chances to win the division.

TIM DON’T LISTEN TO HIM, THIS IS A TRICK

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Aug 31, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am very worried that Penny might squish Timmy and not know it.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or he might eat him!

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

bengie’s laid off (so far)

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bengie’s sensitive.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

TIM – ONLY READ NOTES FROM ME, PASSED IN SOCIAL STUDIES

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S A TRAP!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S A TARP!

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

dear la times,

pretty sure the dodgers are going to win the division anway

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

McC > PR

Fuck!

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Kelly Leak was an asshole but look at what he did for the Bears.

by younghutch on Aug 31, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

BS

Ahmad covered for him in the OF.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if you guys have seen this but, http://www.dodgerblues.com/ is a site ran buy a couple of bitter D*dger fans. It’s pretty funny to read their articles griping about how much fail the D’s are lol

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

They are responsible for the Cake Sandoval .gif

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Classic.

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMPORTANT NOTE!

They are currently running a disparaging poll re: SIRM (Suck It Russell Martin)! Git down on it!

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

this site is actually really funny

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

So when is Ginats Brazz going to officially announce the news? Or have they?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

SFGiants.com has already reported it

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

well then, I sit corrected.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see anything on their home page, and I haven’t gotten an email

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

NM, I see it now

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

they haven’t yet, at least according to KNBR two mopped floors ago…

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think of it this way. If you had a choice of signing LIvan or Brad, which way would you go?

by hammerofthor on Aug 31, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

livan has a cool elton john song named after him

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll see your “Levon” and counter with “Penny Lane”

by younghutch on Sep 1, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

YH Wins!

Penny Lane > Levon
The Beales > Elton jon

by Jakespaar on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved ‘Met the Baeles’… what a debu album.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL - FAIL

I’m usually so anal that I put my posts into a Word doc first to check the spelling.
Figures… one of the few times that I didn’t do that, or use the “preview” feature… :-(

by Jakespaar on Sep 1, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just hassling you… I am a horrible typer myself.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I win

I declare it

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leonard Cohen bores me.

Every MIA song sounds the same, and I can only take one at a time.

I’m not sure how much I hate “Lonesome Crowded West” because I can’t sit through the entire album.

And suddenly I’m a Brad Penny fan.

Howmidoin?

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 31, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Listening to two songs at the same time would just be silly.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mashup FTW!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Lonesome Crowded West sounds awfully Pixies-ish to me, except it’s three times longer than a Pixies album.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lonesome crowded west and long drive…. are two of my favorite albums of all time

I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken

by joeytothelimit on Aug 31, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot Fred Lewis is the problem

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling Grant actually thinks Lewis is the worst defensive LF in the majors, but doesn’t say anything because he’s afraid of jponry. He always seems to stay away from those discussions.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

first thing i learned lurking this site was don’t mess with jponry.

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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why is everyone so afraid of jponry? It’s the internet.

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that she’s a mod, she can get your home address. And then she shows up with a shiv at 3 AM, and then you’ll be sorry.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!?

/runs into the saloon

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHHHHHH SHE’S IN THE ROOM

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m scared of her because I don’t understand what her username means

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s better not to know because it’s pretty stupid.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I wish I could fix mine. I actually wanted to put: Ringlead3r

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something to do with japanese people and MMORPGs

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and for obvious reasons, I wish I hadn’t picked it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea what it was for about a year

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand what her username means

jp on rye. Get it?

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

THIS

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer sourdough

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

jelly peanut on rye?

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Believe me

I’m embarrassed by it. :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I looked it up.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I, on the other hand, am delighted by it.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh noes, I just looked it up on Urban Dictionary. Did it mean that when you picked it? Or is it a coincidence?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It did and that was where I got it but at the time, I didn’t realize what was problematic about it :(

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL FFXI

Those filthy, filthy otakus never fail to make me laugh.

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Sep 1, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha, that’s hilarious

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but only because we banned AsiansAreYellowAndCan’tDrive.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of offensive usernames...

…whatever happened to BrainDeadCaribbeanHackingAtSlopNightly?

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Sep 1, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

He got fired from KNBR

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does anybody else try to pronounce it in their head when reading her posts? For me, it’s kinda “jaypawnree”. And I don’t know what it means. And I’m too lazy to search.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

jaypawnree is fine.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

But is it correct? I’d want to get it right.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could tell you the correct one

If you really want to know

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes please.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was meant to be jay pee own ree but really, any pronunciation is fine. I’m quite fond of JP on Rye myself.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh heh – you said “pee”

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought of it as

J Pwn ry as in – the act of J Pwning others

by Jakespaar on Sep 1, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I left to eat right as you asked, it was covered

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun fact: you don’t actually want to get it right.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do, too. And for you – is it growg or groog?

See – now we’re opening up a big ol’ can o’ worms.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine is like group but with a g at the end.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whew – that’s how I’ve been saying it (in my head – I’d look crazy if I said some of these names out loud).

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pronouce Groug like “Groog”, but Groud like “Growd”

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gr-ow-d. Not like the word “grow”. Now Im confusing myself

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rhymes with Doug.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY I OUGHTA

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine’s pronounced Thee-va-know

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 31, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRAHAMCRAKALAKALAKA

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait huh?

whats crakalakan?

"A foghorn blowing out wild and cold." -Dire Straits

by FriscoJoe on Aug 31, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing that shows up when you GIS for "crakalakan"

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#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

a baked potato??

Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Sep 1, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

there’s no right way anymore.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Jporny is wrong, I dont want to be right

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

rather, you want dyslexia

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Aug 31, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like a break up

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think jaypownree

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

J P Ornery.
\ducks

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

J-Pon

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus P Christ

/PR VAPORS

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anybody recently done a username origin post? I did some rudimentary searching, and I found one from Goofus in 2006, but nothing since (not to say there is one – I’m a bad/lazy searcher).

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

There has been one relatively recently, but I don’t remember when.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure there was one pre-season

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Found it:

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/2/28/775238/semi-ot-the-name-you-didn

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should do another one soon, there are a bunch of new people

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I’ll do it on next week’s off day.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh no

another off day? My computer is tired. These non-gameday threads fill up faster than the gameday ones. Maybe because we’re not distracted by baseball :)

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, what was merkin doing?

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can of Corn... FYI

Mine’s pronounced “MAY-er of three-eleven.”

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say 3-1-1

Like an area code

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

A fictional area code, yes.

Like the 555 exchange in movies.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, I’ve been pronouncing “of” with a long o.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

so it sounds like "oaf"????

(wipes tear, briefly considers removing HowTheyScored from holiday card list, but simply cannot bring self to do it.)

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whew – thanks! Wouldn’t wanna screw that one up in casual conversation.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I had been saying Mayor of thirty-one one.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Aug 31, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actual chuckle aloud

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

M-Three

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOYA!

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

like the band?

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny(ish) story

I had been on here a long time before someone mentioned that they thought my name referred to some musical combo called 311, of whom I had never heard. I thought it was a really obvious name given the context of this site. Turns out not have been. OK, so it’s not ha-ha laugh aloud funny like the Dos Equis ‘Interesting Man’ commercials. But still.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always assumed it referred to a section of View Reserve at the phone?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

View Box, yes.

3 rows of heaven.

Except it actually exists.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have seats there? Nice section. I was in 312 VR last Wed.

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. View Box, Row B.

Since before the ballpark opened. Now in my 10th season of assisting the umpires. Come on down below the walkway sometime and yell out “Mayor of 311.” I will of course pretend not to have heard you, but I’ll make my way out and meet you. There are likely to be empty seats in the section, so after the 3rd inning or so, come hang.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will do!

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

i see the origin of your name

but i will still call you “three eleven”

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

My old name on mlb.com was LarsAt3rd.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 31, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You no longer limit yourself to one location.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the modern game.

You have to be passable at 3 positions to get yourself a roster spot.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wandering Infielder!

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

/licenses it through creative commons

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

/wheels it big on the outer infield

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is also why I never made it in porn.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

First of all, "making it in porn" is redundant.

Second, I have the DVDs that disprove your claim.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just love the second season with the bonus soundtrack

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way Howie

I applaud your choreography

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the choreography looks better because the editing was first-rate. You can barely even tell when we’re using the stunt man.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That prosthetics guy is great.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was a little put off by the “Gag Reel”.

by younghutch on Sep 1, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

QUIET, FOOL

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S A TRAP!

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

FLEE j00 FOOLZ!

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont think we’re allowed to talk

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is anyone actually afraid of jponry?

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

She makes me nervous.

Although I tend to be nervous a lot anyway.

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t strike me as the nervous type.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

People say that to me a lot. But I am constantly on edge. A veritable poodle.

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 1, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a good thing you’re not one of those fainting goats or you’d be constantly keeling over.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

we’re only afraid of jporny

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re only making plans for jporny

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

We only want whats best for jporny

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I don’t think jponry needs our helping hand.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if j-porny say she's happy

She must be happy
She must be happy in her world…

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn right you are.

MORE LIKE K-FRED, AMIRITE?

by jporny on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pedro Feliz is afraid of jponry.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

and we are ALL Pedro Feliz …so…

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

MY ARMS!@!!!

THEY ARE SWINGING LOW AND AWAY!!!!!

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am. D:

MORE LIKE K-FRED, AMIRITE?

by jporny on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

O M G

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is this imposter!?

I cast you out! Unclean spirit! Be gone from this creature of God! Be gone! In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!

Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story

FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHE DON’T SCARE ME

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

new McC motto

Besides he’ll drown you in stats

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, jporny is a man?

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

’taint no gurlz on da innernets

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

She said ’taint…

/beavis laugh

by toofruss on Aug 31, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

FTFY
She said ’taint…

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he dissed Leonard Cohen AND Modest Mouse so he can’t be that scared of me

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT IS EVERYONE’S FASCINATION WITH YOU? Is it ‘cause you’re a girl?

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU FOOL. THERE ARE NO GIRLS ON TEH INTERWEBZ.

Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’m trying to say, here.

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s because I’m awesome.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEAH? PROVE IT.

Cy Lincecain FTW

by ramin on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, do somethin cool

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

She’s going to ban you. That’d be pretty cool

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...no not really

dick

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think it was cool.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just being a girl doesn't make you popular here

Just ask GRM.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRM=Girl??

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a long story

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long story.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Search comments for ‘giantscarebear.’

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I remember that!

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope that story is true. It would be amazing.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally can’t imagine that there just happen to be two posters with the same exact posting style but one is a 60 year old dude who played in the CWS and the other is a mid-20s female law student.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I say I REALLY hope it’s true. It would just be too awesome for me to handle.

I might die.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean like if Juan Uribe showed up at your door with a cooler filled with various beers?

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then he poured he beers on your motherboard.

HEEL TURN!

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought GRM was in his mid 50s.

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close enough.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WAIT

I missed this whole thing RE: GRM, I remember that whole thing at EZboard though. EFFING CRAZY.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which EZBoard was it? Is it still around?

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just checking now and oh wow, it’s totally is still around, I haven’t been there since joining MCC.

totally not on ezboard anymore i guess

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wondering, which of you guys posted on there first before McC?

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did, jponry was there under a different name (!!), I don’t know, Lars I think. We all “knew” each other online already. It was a split off of a clique that used to be on the Giants’ official site forum after that place got really bad after the 2002 post-season. As soon as I found McC, though, I split. It was a little stuffy. Good people, though.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was krukisgod over there. It’s still my e-mail address!

It was a pretty decent crowd over there but there were a few posters who really grated and it was a bit too insular.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOT ME

Before McC, I didn’t participate in any Giants-related discussion forums like you nerds. I went to anime and webcomic message boards.

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I patrolled forums.worldofwarcraft.com !

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

facepalm

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

excellent troll training i might add

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Yea

Hi Fives!

You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.

by SeeingStars on Aug 31, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had never read a blog or commented on a message board before this one.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I posted irregularly (snickers) as #35 on both sfgiants.com & ezboard.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I kind of remember you.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like I made a real impact. :P

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

jcb9 and I and probably some others used to do Gameday threads on Livejournal, of all places. That was my pre-McC fix.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Natto was there, too.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I did that.

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're a mod now

You can check.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Aug 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there was ever a giantscarebear account on here.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that he hasn’t denied it speaks volumes.

Sort of like how I once heckled Shane Victorino by suggesting his parents were brother and sister, and he didn’t even deny it.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he has, a couple of times said something like, “I don’t know who Care Bear is, don’t call me that.”

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shane Victorino said that?

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or how Donovan Tate hasn’t denied his cocaine abuse.

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a failed reference to NOTED COKE ADDICT SLASH TERRORIST DUSTIN ACKLEY.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have to agree

we may have accused Tate too though

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

GODDAMNIT I FAIL

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That whole thing was strange

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the thread where that was explained:

Why is Barry Zito in the starting rotation?

by Scottsdale on Mar 31, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions 0 recs
In all seriousness

could they not just dump they guy, eat his salary, and sign some replacement-level starter to take his place? What is the downside there? Is it better to keep the guy just because you’re paying him, all while he makes your team MUCH worse?

by bondslegend on Mar 31, 2009 3:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, now I get it.

Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 31, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

/rimshot

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I forgot about that story, and now it’s amusing me again.

Thanks!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

M&A > LCW anyway

LCW would be better if they dropped a few songs (Long Distance Drunk, for one) and made Truckers Atlas like 5 minutes long instead of 10 minutes long.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does kind of come from the Tori Amos School Of Never Cutitng A Single Second From A Single Song Even Though It’s Seventy Five Minutes Long And Makes Me Want To Die Three Fourths Of The Way Through

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to love epic 2 hour prog albums but now if I’m trying to decide what to listen to, I always tend to want to skip 1+ hour long albums.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of prefer double albums to crazy-long single albums.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those stupid artists!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t read anything below this comment, but if anyone below speaks ill of This is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About, my calm and mellow personality will melt into white hot liquid rage.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Aug 31, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I’m sorry Grant. Would you rather us discuss ACTUAL BASEBALL? Where am I going to get quiche recipes from then?

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone heard the new Sparklehorse/Danger Mouse album, Dark Night of the Soul? It has David Lynch on it. It’s weird. It’s also what im listening to right now.

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sparklehorse/Danger Mouse? That sounds like something my 5 year olds would play at recess.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

that sounds like an awesome collaboration, i’m gonna have to check it out

I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken

by joeytothelimit on Aug 31, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Best Of Leonard Cohen album finished downloading. Lets see what this is about.

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just figured out that Arcade Fire- Funeral is a pretty amazing album. I’d listened to it before but somehow it didn’t really penetrate. The same thing happened with Belle and Sebastian “The Life Pursuit” last week. Weird.

Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.

by dcp on Aug 31, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed Arcade Fire more...

…before I read a comparison of them to Echo & the Bunnymen, and then realized just how much they did in fact sound like Echo & the Bunnymen, and then remembered that I was pretty much done with Echo & the Bunnymen 28 years ago.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still like them too, though. I was more bemused at how an album can be ignorable at one time, then you give it another chance and it impresses you in a totally different way.

Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.

by dcp on Aug 31, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it when that happens.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You were done with Echo and the Bunnymen BEFORE Ocean Rain? FAIL.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Aug 31, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

10/10 album

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So...

Like, Blood on the Tracks 10/10, or, um, Nashville Skyline 10/10?

:-)

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Sep 1, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funeral is to Neon Bible as Desire is to Blood on the Tracks.

by Evan on Sep 1, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leonard Cohen bores me.

Every MIA song sounds the same, and I can only take one at a time.

I’m not sure how much I hate "Lonesome Crowded West" because I can’t sit through the entire album.

And suddenly I’m a Brad Penny fan.

Howmidoin?

1) Check, though I love hearing other artists cover his songs.
2) Check, MIA is too chaotic for me.
3) Checkcheckcheck, Modest Mouse = yawn.
4) Check, for now. Don’t pitch like your initials, Brad Penny!

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

GROSS

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The White Sox just put everybody and their mother on the market
an annoyed #chisox gm ken willliams has let teams know dye, konerko, thome, linebrink, dotel, others are available.

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I like JI

JIM

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

ALEXEI RAMIREZ PLEASE

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRASS!!!!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lets claim Gordon Beckham’s hair

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think of the cost in hair products. Let’s just go after Beckham & make him shave the ‘do’.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billy Mays here for the Chicago White Sox!

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHITE SOX DED DAWG

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

U R 4 AND A HALF

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is awesome

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

it looks like a craigslist ad

except there is more ass kicking involved

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Aug 31, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

White Flag II

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baggs Updating : No more moves by the Giants
There are other names rumored to be floating out there in the waning hours, most notably White Sox power hitters Jermaine Dye and Paul Konerko, but I’m told the Giants don’t expect any more moves this evening. And since any player they would acquire tomorrow would be ineligible for the postseason, it’s safe to say the Giants offense is what it is.

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

he hella thought it was gone

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I just realized what Lars is doing.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamethreading the replayed game. LOL U MISSED THE GUD PART

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? I’ve been wanting that explained to me for years now.

by Evan on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

G-lessDT?

DOGDT (day old…)?

"The dreams ain't broken down here now, they're walking with a limp" --TW

by bgunn on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh stfd whatever
/unenthustiac

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

At Least it's not Tomko

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

whos owning for the A's

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

no one is more shocked than i am!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s actually been, dare i say it…good for the a’s

by sfoakbay on Aug 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

just keep pinching yourself:)

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

by greatgiantfan on Aug 31, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love saving all my homework untill after practice

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Konerko for the playoff run? Tonite do or die…or Dye?

cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"

by foothillsfan on Aug 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

WE NEEDZ 3 FIRST BASEMEN!

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE NEED 1 FIRST BASEMAN

to go with our lefty pitcher pinch hitter and our defensive replacement

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

did anybody else hear the stat yesterday, that Fred Lewis was a career 5 for 6 against the Rockies starter? Then he pinch hits against the guy and lines a double.
I wonder what Fred did to piss off Bochy this much. Or is it the bunions?
Meanwhile Rowand continues mostly unproductive atbats.

cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"

by foothillsfan on Aug 31, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I heard that too and I was like WTFBORK? And then, Lewis promptly hit a double on the next pitch.

Jesse Foppert: I Still Believe. Maybe a little less now.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon,

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 31, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed so hard when Rowand got booed for striking out 3 times. Then I cried.

by kdl on Aug 31, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

A couple of friends respond to my news of Brad Penny:

Dodger fan – Good luck my friend – He’s sort of like Forrest Gump’s chocolate box

Red Sox fan- I’d use a different movie reference (from Trainspotting): Brad "The Worst Bathroom in Scotland" Penny.
 
LOL

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Did anyone notice

that the Giants now have two starting pitchers on their active roster that have banged Alyssa Milano?

"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
Tommy Lasorda is the Antichrist

by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Aug 31, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

name one Giants that hasn’t banged the same girl as Barry Zito

by NeifiChicken on Aug 31, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point

"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
Tommy Lasorda is the Antichrist

by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Aug 31, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

zito and milano really look evil in that 2nd photo

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or bombed.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sabes trying to impress her

I R 5

by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Penny for $75k? cant hurt

by justhangin on Aug 31, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I first read that as "can't hurl"...

…I guess we’ll find out.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Aug 31, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Brad Penny.

Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Aug 31, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Face Fucking Palm reading Bagg's site comments
I’m worried about Sanchez and Garko taking the spots of Uribe and Ishikawa…..

Uribe and Ishi are winners, they will get us to the playoffs….I have nothing against Sanchez and Garko, but Uribe and Ishi need to start….

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know why, but the newspapers attract the dimmest commenters around, almost as bad as sports talk radio callers.

Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.

by dcp on Aug 31, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The comments on Extra Baggs are steadily declining to the level of Youtube and NicoNico Douga.

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m surprised how fast they got so bad.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

as the giants have remained in the race further into the season, the comments have increased on all Giants related blogs, press, etc.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

WEST COAST BIAS

With malice towards the Dodgers

by heimy25 on Aug 31, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it bad that like the rockies, i’m afraid now that the giants are getting good press?

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I did sort of like the Giants whole flying under the radar thing, now that you bring it up

With malice towards the Dodgers

by heimy25 on Aug 31, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even here

I mean, last year, that Rohlinger thread was a hilarious big deal.

Today, something like that just mean’s it’s Tuesday.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

on all Giants related blogs, press, etc.

Well, except mine. I think my graphs scare away people.

by xanthan on Aug 31, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

to be honest, I read your posts and love the work, but i never feel the need to comment.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

also, maybe the computer output is perfect and requires no further input!

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe we need more maths on the main page.
Or more grammar-nazi threads.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEH, HEH, HEH.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMFG you better not be that John guy on Baggs

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

BANNED

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I fuckin’ HATE that guy. Refuting his nonsense is an exercise in troll feeding, so I get very few chances to mock him in front of people who know what a douche that guy is…

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh my. That comment section generally unreadable…

Everyone's running
The whole field bursts to life, man
Best play in baseball

-Buck O'Neill describing a triple

by Traylude on Aug 31, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that Timmy Cain?

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
comics | art | Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

WINNERS

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was there a non-sequitur photo attached?

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the dumbass scale

MLBTR comments > Damon Bruce callers > Youtube comments > Baggs site comments

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don’t know man, MLBTR comments are pretty horrible, but nothing is worse than the youtube vomit

I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken

by joeytothelimit on Aug 31, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

SFGate can get downright ridiculous.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

YouTube comments

are the worst humanity has to offer.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

clearly you do not /b/

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But on /b/ they’re trying to troll and be the worst people they can.

On Youtube, those people ARE ACTUALLY MAKING THE BEST COMMENTS THEY CAN.

Youtube has got to destroy way more faith in humanity than any other site.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say NicoNico Douga gives it a run for its money.

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what that is and I don’t want to.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

/b/ is a bunch of weird guys who think they are hilarious

Youtube is just a wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN comment boards are pretty low on the totem pole themselves. In fact, I’d say only YouTube keeps them out of last place.

ESPN has the added charm of random, computer-controlled censorship, too.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

there used to be a dude on the giants espn boards

that had every major giants transaction right 2 days before it became official without fail

by kezargiants on Aug 31, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

What has Ishikawa won?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

HIS FREEDOM

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Freedom of the Heart.

It needs to be stopped.

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

he has heart. miles and miles of heart.

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are the Orioles REALLY about to get no-hit for the second time in about 2 years?

by superk1ng on Aug 31, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I am going to go fucking nuts if ANOTHER yankee throws a perfect game

by superk1ng on Aug 31, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

that sucks…looked familiar….

by agiantmistake on Aug 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL HAIRSTON JR PULLS AN URIBE

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Jerry Hairston Jr = Juan Uribe

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha just coming on here to make the same jokes..damn you all

by DFAAurillia on Aug 31, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN???

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love all the excuses that came from Yankee fans after Pettite was named on the mitchell report.

by superk1ng on Aug 31, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

For he himself has said it,
And it’s greatly to his credit,
That he is a christian man!

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He remains a Christian man!

by TheLetter2 on Aug 31, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

C-MATTZ

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

SIGN HIM SABES

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I thought I didn’t care… then I fell in love with Panda and now I’m not so sure anymore. - Smoke On The Water

by jhiat00 on Aug 31, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matty!

I think the ballpark should have a few more things dedicated to pre-San Francisco Giants like Mathewson and Ott.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

For Christy Matt...

I’ve always thought it’d be cool if they retired the number 6, in honor of “Big Six”.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Sep 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always loved that guy. Got an A on a report on him in the sixth grade.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt even go near pettite if i was hairston

by DFAAurillia on Aug 31, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Not anymore

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

still. Pettitte then had to pitch from the stretch, might have been thinking about the error, etc etc. Who knows. I’d blame Hairston

With malice towards the Dodgers

by heimy25 on Aug 31, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Garko=Konerko, more or less.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Aug 31, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

more fat, less speed

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget, whoever is traded also has to clear waivers (if they played a MLB game this year). For instance, Frandsen can’t be traded straight up for Thome, he’d have to clear waivers first.

Only players that have cleared waivers can be traded for each other.

Obviously players not on the 40 man roster are not subject to this rule.

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question

Which Giants have cleared waivers?

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

we don’t know. We’re not supposed to. It’s some big secret. The players and their agents don’t even know.

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never knew that

but did the rules for that change at some point?

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was it always secretive?

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

to defeat the illuminati

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I betcha Rich Aurilia cleared waivers.
betcha betcha!

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be great

if we could secretly put our students on waivers? :)

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, principals!!!

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The kids don’t drive me half as crazy as their gul-durned parents.
Please, don’t bring your 4yr old to school in the morning while he’s in the process of eating a bag of flaming hot cheetos for breakfast. I really don’t need to, and don’t want to see that!!

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put the parent on waivers...

Excuse me, Mrs. Fratterstatter, you’ve been waived. You’re going to PS 546, and you can just leave that bag of hot cheetos right there…

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh,

and “gul-durned” is decidedly non-MED, McCoven English Dictionary.

I guess, as it happens to me, you must be on language lock-down now that school has started

Juan Marichal's bat > JR's head

by titofuentes4 on Aug 31, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I eat lunch with three other teachers most days

2 of them are English Teachers and they give many of the students a run for their money in regards to profanity. I guess they are getting it all out during lunch.

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 31, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brother is paid to hold a clipboard and blow a whistle all day.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Village Person?

Sounds like he’s got his cop costume and his contractor costume mixed up.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"This is not good, folks."- Duane Kuiper

by natteringnabob on Aug 31, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but a PE Teacher by day

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my experience, often the same thing as a village person.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know who is available

I just wanted an excuse to post this picture

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah except for that “1” and those damn little Brad Penny red squaroids…

by bondo on Aug 31, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the other Penny’s were boob pics. That includes Brad!

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 31, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

“There’s a sale at Penney’s!”

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heard in the Rockies clubhouse

“I don’t Sabean getting a shiney new penny” in thick Italian accent

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.

by zenbitz on Aug 31, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derek HoLOLand

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Rangers pitching: Still shitty

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i picked holland up for my fantasy playoffs. 10 runs in 3 innings wasn’t what i had in mind.

by sliderinthedirt on Aug 31, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I picked up Barajas today because because Victor Martinez is off. Its going okay

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRETT FAVRE LINKED TO CRACK COCAINE

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

We already discussed this, somewhere, today, maybe even on this thread. Who can tell anymore?

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good.

And Tom Brady may have a separated shoulder. I think we’re rapidly approaching the point where the entire NFL hits the DL simultaneously.

I’ve been trying to wean myself off football for years. The advent of MLB Network and the continuing eye-searing awfulness that is the Niners may just make this the year.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’d be the Injured Reserve and my favorite… the PUP list (physically unable to perform).

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember as a kid hitting an early-season soccer practice around now after a long summer thinking about baseball, and referring to a throw-in after a foul ball.

Mockery ensued.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone just watch Shooty Babbitt just attempt to talk Penny/Giants/baseball on comcast?

He said something about Lincecums velocity being down so its good we have Penny. What?

“VERY nice acquisition for the San Francisco Giant. (no ’s)

“This young man has won over 100 games in his 10 yr career”

" He is going to give you a very honest nights work"

“He brings an edge that the San Francisco Giants pitching staff could use”

He really made himself look dumb. man Im glad the a’s have him and not us. At least Amy G is semi attractive.

by kvdp12 on Aug 31, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Postseason rules

Hey, can someone explain this to me? Schulman says that as long as Penny is “in the organization” by Aug 31, it doesn’t matter if he’s on the 25-man roster when it comes to post-season eligibility, because since injury subs are allowed, they can just say he’s substituting in for Noah Lowry (or anyone else on the DL).

Is this accurate? Because it sure seems easy to abuse. Of course, under the rules the Giants can just pretend Aurilia is injured and put him on the DL until rosters expand, so obviously the rules on these things are kind of lax.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

i think a guy actually on the 25 man has to be injured in order to be eligible to be replaced

by kingofthacove on Aug 31, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, that is what I thought, but you would think Schulman would know. Otherwise it would be really stupid if they don’t just option Valdez for four hours so that Penny is eligible for the postseason. Because, say what you will about Penny, he’s better than Merkin.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I explained this in another thread.

1) The player has to be in your organization at any level by Aug 31st
2) He can replace a player on the 60 day DL only
3) Same position replacement only. IF for IF, OF for OF, P for P, C for C.

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you good sir!

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s official:

The Giants have signed Brad Penny to a minor league contract, it’s been confirmed. He’ll be added to the major league roster when rosters expand tomorrow. And yes, he’s eligible for the postseason — and more immediately, for Wednesday’s start against the Phillies.

by deuce deuce on Aug 31, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions  

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait, so the Braves fans think they’re going to win it, but the Marlins fans don’t? Then again maybe Florida doesn’t have that many Marlins fans (judging by their attendance).

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida: Giants 37%, Other (Marlins) 35%, Rockies 28%
Illinois: Giants 35%, Rockies 35%, Other (Cubs) 30%

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL CUBS

Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ

by Zetsuboushita on Aug 31, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s Florida, they got their ballot choices all mixed up.

by Merope on Aug 31, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

VAPORS!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Sep 1, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL dyslexic red states and blue states.

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Aug 31, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, I saw that before...

But the one I saw called the red states “Dumbfuckistan.”

Sorry, Purple Row. I don’t really mean to give anybody the vapors.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice.,you all avoiding the elitist stereotypes that makes the rest of the country loathe leftists in S.F and Manhattan. Is why this native left and why I don’t go back, because I don’t despise people who believe what they are doing is the right thing- like you all thinking that the politician you vote for is any less of a criminal and puppet than the politician the other guy voted for.

The two types of crazy people: Dodger fans and those who think Neeley was better than Gillan.

by cybermaldonado on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude.

Texas is about to go Democrat in the next 10 years.

Proud Parent of Past Longhorn and Future Giant Brandon Belt - The Official J.T. Snow Clone.

by Kestrel76 on Aug 31, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might not even take that long. Too many of us Californians taking over & shit.

/bumps ‘California Love’

El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."

by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t California Love Rent’s walk-up song?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that new? I don’t believe I’ve heard it until this weekend. I think he used to use one of the Bailando songs (my wife’s favorites!)

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s been using it since opening day.

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, ok then

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The majority of it is still pretty miserable, though, and worthy of that distiction.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Sep 1, 2009 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like this arrangement very much actually.

Status: Feels so broke up. Wants to go home. || Still boycotting Johnsonville and Giants souvenirs or ballpark foods for repossessing my K Wall in right field.

by GiantBrass on Aug 31, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I Live in jesusland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I R 5

by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAWAII LOVES US AGAIN

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Aug 31, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought hawaii only loved shane victorino

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like to just think these poll voters in the south “just don’t want those San Francisco politics in my baseball!”

by sayheybk on Aug 31, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Updated (from the Tulowhiny thread)

Photobucket

We took Montana and Minnesota, but lost Vermont!

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

COME ON VERMONT

WHERE ARE YOUR SAN FRANCISCO VALUES?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re only down 1 percent in Vermont! GO TO THE POLLS PEOPLE

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as as we take the Big 3 we're fine!

Proud Parent of Past Longhorn and Future Giant Brandon Belt - The Official J.T. Snow Clone.

by Kestrel76 on Aug 31, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

cal, texas, florida?

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

DA BIG APPLE YA GUIDO

Is that how they talk?

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which happen to be the 3 states where a majority of baseball players were raised/played amateur baseball.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cali, Texas, NY

Proud Parent of Past Longhorn and Future Giant Brandon Belt - The Official J.T. Snow Clone.

by Kestrel76 on Aug 31, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all down to some combination of Pennsylvania, Virginia and Ohio. The defection of North Carolina and Iowa greatly helps our math.

Golly last year’s election day was exciting.

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to get Nate Silver on this.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 31, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate Silver is a proven winner

We should just make him GM.

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rotorueter: Regional Director of the Giants-for-Wild Card Ohio Campaign

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Sep 1, 2009 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. Crazy Crab called in some favors and got us the International Brotherhood of Mollusks endorsement.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Sep 1, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aquaman!

Finally a use for his power!

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 1, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

what happened to Minnesota?

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum

Adopted Father: Tyler Graham

by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL VINNY

“I can’t believe I am sitting here talking about hairstyles.”

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I just got the official email from the Giants that they signed Penny. Anybody else?

--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.

by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Just a bad penny
I always come back to you
Should have known you
couldn’t trust me
As far as you could throw me
You couldn’t throw me too far
Just a bad penny
Couldn’t throw me too far

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

It's only official when Sfgiants.com send you the press release via email.

/just got mine

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

my mom always gets those and tells me who the giants got

and i’m like yeah i’ve known for like a day and a half already

by kezargiants on Aug 31, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

ALL STAR!

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWICE!

Unless that’s just a typo and it should read “Two-timing All Star.”

"Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense."
Only [hella] games left until the end of Zito's [no, make that Rowand's] contract.
Adoptive father of "Poncho" Villalona: This Angel don't fly. Nothing about him is light.

by thehavenot on Aug 31, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

PLAYOFFS, HERE WE COME!

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU’RE IN!

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
I also make music, please check it out

by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet! Only 3 years removed from being NL leader in wins!

Fictional Assistant, clear my schedule all through October!

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.

by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jim THome

Jon Heyman reports that Jim Thome is now on the Dodgers. Heard it on MLB Network.

Sorry if this is already a Fanshot.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

these guys all cleared waivers weeks ago and have large salaries. No team would block that

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry if this is already a Fanshot.

that would make a good sig.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Aug 31, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, people are quick here.

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by Giant among Angels on Aug 31, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Garland too

With malice towards the Dodgers

by heimy25 on Aug 31, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

FLANDERS!

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by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

His season: 252/.375/.499

He can’t do us any good because he walks too much and clogs up the bases.

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by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And sucks on defense.

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by Natto on Aug 31, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

GET OFF YOU'RE ASS GINATS BRASS!!1

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by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

His bat would be nice to have, but he can’t play defense, so…. I find it hard to believe he ended up with a National League team. I mean, according to fangraphs, he’s played four games on defense since 2006 (three in 2006, one in 2007, and none in 2008 or 2009). What’s he gonna do for them, pinch hit?

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll be their Matt Stairs.

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by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

c'mon you fucking snakes garland's not a dog yet

scoreboard watching

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by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

What do we think of Contreras going to the Rockies?

Wild Thing just said on MLBtv that he thinks it “could” be a “big pickup” for the Rockies. His point is that NL hitters don’t see the kind of “stuff” he “features.” (I am personally skeptical that NL pitchers don’t have breaking stuff, if that’s what Mitch is talking about.) Anyway, I have no original thoughts on this, but am interested in your thoughts.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

It gives them a 4/5 starter to counter Penny. Contreras is a clear upgrade over the fogg.

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

and it looks like the White Sox get Brandon Hynick, the rockies version of Kevin Pucetas

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Career vs. Contreras

Molina 1 for 9
Renteria 0 for 9
Garko 5 for 18

Looking at the Rockies remaining schedule, only the Dodgers have some hitters (Blake & Manny) that have faced Contreras extensively. It could be a good move if you buy into the ‘Batters haven’t seen him yet’ theory.

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by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

There shouldn’t be much in the changing of parks, US Cellular to Hell Coors

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh... now Sean Casey is talking on MLBtv's panel.

Two first names…. jerk.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

/runs away crying

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by ResDog on Aug 31, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes

I’ll say Contreras to the Rockies is good for them and not necessarily awful for the Giants, but Jon Garland and Jim Thome to the Dodgers really make them AL-ready in the playoffs.

by Every6thDay on Aug 31, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep. Thome will likely only take a few ABs away from Loney here and there and hit off the bench. If everything goes all wrong and they make the world series though, it becomes a much bigger deal

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thome really isnt that much better than Loney is he?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

but, but...

DINGERZ!!

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dbags have loaded up the bases

Bums owned.

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by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bases loaded, no outs, and DBacks only pick up a run courtesy of a walk.

Heading to the bottom of the 10th.

5-3 DBacks.

by lincecumania on Aug 31, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, sounds like us!

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by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except that we don't walk

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by Yoyo on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wild pitch!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

very giants-ian of them

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by shanghaijim on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Garland is bad luck already

They should’ve made him wait til after the game to switch dugouts

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think that this would be a requirement.

by agiantmistake on Aug 31, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

5.5 GB!!

suck it russell j. martin

by sayheybk on Aug 31, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL MARTIN

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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Hsuck Hit

Hrussel Hmartin H!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Suck It Jussel Martin

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by GiantBrass on Aug 31, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Arizona Douchebacks beat the Los Angeles Douchers.

(to the tune of Handel’s ‘Messiah’)

LOL-elujah! LOL-elujah! Lolelujah, lolelujah, lol-ay-ay-lujah!

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Suck it Russel!

HAHAHAAH

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

This actually did make me chuckle. Russel “the Love Muscle” Martin.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Le Flash du News.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

my bad.

fan of giants, warriors, 49ers

by warriorsalltheway on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other news, Giants Draft Tim Lincecum with the 10th overall pick

by jctGamer on Aug 31, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should be the one to go with the sig:

“Sorry if this is already a fanshot…”

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

McCovey to retire…film at 11:00

by younghutch on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rockies get Jose Contreras

by ACgiant97 on Aug 31, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Giants get Brad Penny
Dodgers get Jim Thome and John Garland
ARMS RACE!

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has also been mentioned

But to comment: a less douchey, worse pitcher than Penny. I figure the Giants came out ahead today.

by taliesin on Aug 31, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, the Phillies have that covered

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps a Douchebag All-Star Team.

I’ll start –
SP – Kenny Rogers / Carlos Zambrano
C – A.J. Pierzshithead

by younghutch on Aug 31, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

CF

Shane Victorino!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The hell was I thinking:

C – S.I.R.M.

by younghutch on Aug 31, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

he can be the 3B

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then where does Casey Blake go?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

1B

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then where does James Loney go?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Failbeards Anonymous

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SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

When will you guys stop picking on HowTheyScored???

That’s not a real association, you know.

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I spent like 10 minutes trying to find it on Google, too. That was a cruel trick, CB30.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then where does this guy go?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That thing is incredible

There is no fail there.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Aug 31, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

good

Because I have been working on mine for months now

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I could grow facial hair

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait

You’re younger then me

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
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by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

*than

Double reply to self

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SCIENCE

by CB30 on Aug 31, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

(secret tinge of pride)

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

ya but

im one-eigth Austrian

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 1, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

That’s a winbeard.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anywhere but "down."

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note to self: Don’t grow elaborate, decorative beard.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Aug 31, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bad

didnt see it already posted

by ACgiant97 on Aug 31, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants get Penny!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

HAHAHAH I <3 Urban Dictionary
Cain:
 An australian word for pain or loss.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

From urban Dictionary: (so it must be true)
Russel :
 noun. This is a creative name for the penis. The full name of this creature is “Russel the Love Muscle.”

 Martin :
 Another word for a flatulence.


 

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

sure, or the alternate definition of Russel:
Russel :
 A person with no arms or legs that gets thrown into a pile of leaves

……yes

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

AH DECLARE

THIS COCKFART IS GIVIN’ ME THA VAPORS

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by satyricrash on Aug 31, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

clownpenis.fart!

I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, someone please help me.
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by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

why the fuck would I ever click that?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s an SNL skit, just watch it

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by ringleader3 on Aug 31, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was it necessary for the Dodgers to get players for their bench that would bat clean up on our team?

by DFAAurillia on Aug 31, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

just to show off

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 31, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am curious who the PTBNL is for Garland. Rumor says the D-backs are paying the rest of his salary and the buyout for next year. Thats a lot of cash to give a player away

by m34josh on Aug 31, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

might be similar to the Micah owings deal last year. maybe they get a piece, maybe not. maybe loney.

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read in the Fanshots that it is rumored to be Tony Abreu. If true, it makes sense. Basically buying a guy raking in AAA

by m34josh on Sep 1, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

makes sense.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s actually pretty depressing for us… Thome would be a cleaneup hitter for the giants, and the dodgers have him as a bench player…

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except that he’s physically unable to play first base more than a couple times a week (if that – Konerko was out for IL games in NL Parks this season and Thome still didn’t start at 1B in thsoe games).

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

So basically he’s just going to pinch hit?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s the plan… left handed pinch hit power off the bench. With a 40-man roster, it’s probably not that bad of an idea.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, not at all, i’m just jealous, since i kinda liked Thome

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

He will now be besmirched by Dodgerhood.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

i no can has likes him still?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s just a phase.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read something on another thread that had THome calling Ned and telling him that he could no longer play 1B AT ALL. So yeah, LA got a DH. (To add to the one in LF.)

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by satyricrash on Sep 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess he’ll be pinch hitting and DHing if they make the WS.

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which has gotta suck once again for Juan Pierre!

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by satyricrash on Sep 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

SUCK IT JUAN PIERRE

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is their Matt Stairs, only good

by m34josh on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not gonna say he absolutely cannot play first base anymore, but he hasn’t done so for two seasons now. I think Thome is there strictly as a PH (and of course DH if they make it to the WS — heaven forfend).

by taliesin on Sep 1, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

40-man roster move

The Giants still must make a move to add Penny to the 40-man roster so he can play in the big leagues. Any thoughts on who it’d be? Burriss to the 60-day DL is my guess. Has Richie grounded into his last double play for the Giants? Doubtful.

If Big Unit comes off the 60-day DL, they’ll need to make another 40-man roster move, too.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 31, 2009 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Burriss to 60 day, DFA English, DFA Bocock, DFA :(owski

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by Speedforthewin on Aug 31, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

MAGIC NUMBERS!

(And by “numbers,” I mean “things that make you numb,” not digits)

Our magic number vs. the Los Angeles Douchers: 37
Our magic number vs. the Colorado God Squad: 32

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by Mayor of 311 on Aug 31, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Since no one cares about my opinion or thinks it’s wrong, I won’t give my opinion on this.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

by SFGuy on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

could you be any more wrong on this?

"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."

by cloudydays on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

As if you even care.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Sep 1, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

This thread defeated me.

Best Leonard Cohen mock was done by The Austin Lounge Lizards.

When I was studying in England, I happened to meet an older lady who mentioned working in a pub, or something similar, and coming across a broad shouldered young man with a golden voice who took an immediate liking to her (if you’d met her, you’d understand). This was a young Leonard Cohen, in the time when he was known largely as a short story writer and not so much as a singer. He mentioned taking her out to the golden fields behind the village and reading her some of his poetry. The owner of the establishment interdicted and expressed his opinion on just this sort of shenanigan. She told her employed to stuff his gob. Still, the moment had passed. It was forever regretted.

My day was spent with my still French girlfriend, attempting to show off the sights and sounds of lovely San Francisco (wasn’t it a lovely, sunny occasion?). Took her to the Academy of Sciences and Fisherman’s Wharf. Kind of regret both choices, but she seemed to have a good time. Ate some fantastic food. Set up a pool party or two for tomorrow/today. Am quite happy. Time for bed.

by Alex_Lewis on Sep 1, 2009 1:39 AM PDT reply actions  

On the topic

Brad Penny will be much better than Sidney Ponson ever was.

by Alex_Lewis on Sep 1, 2009 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

In their respective Giants tenure, I mean.

by Alex_Lewis on Sep 1, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

In 2007, Brad Penny had a wOBA of .274. That’s almost Bengie Molina territory.

by jctGamer on Sep 1, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

cleanup hitter!!!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, are the call ups coming today? or what’s the deal?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

also

Would Runzler not be playoff eligible since he wasn’t on the 40 man roster before today(assuming we call him up)?

by superk1ng on Sep 1, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea, well we wont know, heck, the giants coulda gotten another player and we wouldn’t know yet today… i mean who knows

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose the move for Runzler could have been made at 11:59, but we really have no way of knowing.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to jctGamer, Runzler does not need to be on the 25-man or the 40-man to be playoff eligible. Since he was in the organization as of Aug 31, they could use him as an “injury replacement” for any pitcher on the 60-day DL who is on the 40-man roster.

by taliesin on Sep 1, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

My best guess is:

Locks
Joe Martinez
Osiris Matos
Waldis Joaquin
Bowker
Whoever got “sent down” yesterday to make room for Penny on the 25

Probably:
Downs
Guzman
Aurilla

Maybe:
Gillapsie (a push)
Frandsen

I R 5

by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

What makes Frandsen a maybe all the sudden?

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sabean

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever deep dark secret that has made him a Grizzly all year. But I do think he gets called up.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frandsen is the darkhorse for the playoff run

by PiKAgiant on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchez off the DL as well.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchez off the DL and Martinez getting recalled will take a few days. No one got sent down for Penny, he signed a minor league deal to get on the 40 man before the deadline. Penny is technically a september call up.

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

The hes not eligable for the post season, right? Don’t you have to be on the 25 before 9/1 to postseason eligable?

I R 5

by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you just have to be in the organization by 9/1.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

you have to be on the 40 man by 9/1

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he’s in the org by 9/1 though, you can use the 60 day DL loophole to get him on the playoff roster

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by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/08/playoff-roster-eligibility-rules/

this site does a pretty good job of explaining the situation. Seems like MLB tries to hide some rules

I R 5

by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

and I say Runzler falls into the probably, while Aurilia is a lock and downs is a maybe

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by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one had to get sent down for penny, since it was minor league deal. He can be added to the 40 man tomorrow and brought up in the call ups, I think

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by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like that the comment box is cut in half now. COME ON SBN BRASS

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Sep 1, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve always wondered about this phrase. From whom does a major-league team purchase the contract? The AAA squad? How much do they pay?

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 1, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

You rxmeistered that reply.

by Evan on Sep 1, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

But if Kevin Frandsen had been given a chance, then Grant wouldn’t be planning three more righteous posts about Kevin Frandsen not getting his chance.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Sep 1, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants are front page on MLB.com!

by deuce deuce on Sep 1, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I like that the picture is of Sanchez.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

roster moves

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2009/09/01/tuesdays-roster-moves-penny-etc/

For now, Jesus Guzman, John Bowker and Waldis Joaquin have been recalled. Andres Torres and Rich Aurilia were activated from the DL. And the Giants purchase the contract of Brad Penny, who signed a minor league deal last night.

by superk1ng on Sep 1, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

No Mr. F yet?

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by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. F?

If you mean Sanchez, he’s not eligible to come off the DL until tomorrow but Bochy said this morning that he’d “be surprised” if Sanchez was ready to come off the DL by then.

by superk1ng on Sep 1, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Freddie Sanchez, or is he not eligible to come off the DL yet?

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by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Answering my own question: Yep, not eligible until Sept. 2nd

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by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

And also – all indications are that he’ll need at least another week.

It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).

by can of corn on Sep 1, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured something like that!

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by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he means Frandsen.

BTW, I’ve always wondered about this phrase. From whom does a major-league team purchase the contract? The AAA squad? How much do they pay?

Giants wins feel better than Dodger losses, but it's darn close.

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. F is Freddy Sanchez.

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Sep 1, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Firefly

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simpsons

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Sep 1, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arrested Development

In AD, Mr. F was a “mole”.

"Trust me: If I’m feeling lousy at the plate like that, I’m not just going to walk up there with bases loaded and get a hit because I’m some great clutch hitter." - Mr. F!
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by Natto on Sep 1, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or mentally retarded female

Making more and more sense

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Sep 1, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don’t actually pay anyone for the contract, it does mean the player makes more though because the major league minimum kicks in

by m34josh on Sep 1, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh. Not a lot of pitching help.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Sep 1, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL FRANDSEN

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The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

No need for a stop gap right now.

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by ringleader3 on Sep 1, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re adding more guys when Fresnos season concludes this week

by superk1ng on Sep 1, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

BOWERKMANIA RETURNS

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.

by jponry on Sep 1, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

1AB AT WEEK BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I R 5

by say hey nation on Sep 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

…to the bench. D:

Brand new adoptive daddy for the Big Unit. Congrats go out to my son for his 300th win. Only 211 more wins until he catches Cy Young!

by Speedforthewin on Sep 1, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

First off, LOL Frandsen

I think besides maybe Martinez, that’s all the Giants will recall from Fresno. They probably decided against calling up a catcher since Pablo can catch if Eli gets hurt while Bengie’s still hurt. Can we expect another outburst from the minor league utility superstar Kevin Frandsen?

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Sep 1, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

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